[users] Re: Trouble with links between spreadsheets

[Terry North]

> Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> > OO 2 final - I am having tremendous dificulty with links between
> > spreadsheets.
Andy Lewis  ntlworld.com> writes:
> So if you had such a link set up, and you wanted to change a cell in the 
> "source" file and see the change reflected in the "receiving" file, you 
> would need to:
> (1) Save the "source" file
> (2) Save the "receiving" file, then do "File - Reload".  You will be 
> asked whether you want your links updated - say yes and they will be.
> 
You can save yourself one step by setting automatic updating of links - Tools
/Options /OpenOffice.org Calc /General:Updating.  You can get an instant result
if you use the Paste icon, click on the arrow to the right and select "DDE
link".  Unfortunately, you may then have to format the cells to show the
contents as you wish.  I've never saved and reloaded a file using such links so
perhaps the result is not as it first appears.  Regards.


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[users] Re: copy and paste

[Terry North]

Martin S  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> When copying (selecting text) and pasting (Unix third button pasting) the
> selection directly into a cell in Calc I lose my text formating for that
> cell. When pasting the text in the "edit box" (where you enter formula etc)
> the text formating of the cell is retained.
> Is this intended behaviour, if so, why?

The format of the cell usually changes to that of the material being posted.  If
you use the paste icon (NOT paste-special), you can click on the arrow to the
right of the icon and select a desired format from the drop-down list- it looks
as though you want the selection "unformatted text".  That works for pasting
direct into the cell.

The edit box works differently depending, as far as I can tell, on how you copy,
i.e whether you copy the cell or select and copy material from the cell.  As for
why, you probably need to ask the developers.  Regards.  Terry.




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[users] Re: Newbie Bibliography Problem

[Matej Cepl]

Chris Share wrote:
> What am I missing here?

You don't miss anything -- however, OOo Bibliography is currently nothing
more than a joke. There is currently project to create a real bibliography
support at , but that is really in
very early stage (no code yet). Then you can try Bibus
, which is Python bibliographic database
working with OpenOffice.org (somehow similar to Endnote and Word).

Best of luck,

Mat?j

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Re: [users] mac os X help again

[Alicia Spjute]

I've downloaded NeoOffice just fine, but I'm just frustrated that I
can't get OO to work.  I'm using version 10.4.3
Thanks!

On 12/13/05, Chad Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/13/05, Alicia Spjute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your help those of you that responded.  I've installed x11
> > and java 1.5 is on my system, but I still can't install OO.  It
> > downloads just fine and lets me copy it to the applications folder,
> > but when I open it it moves to the dock for about five seconds, then
> > automatically closes.  Anything else I can try before I give up?
> > -Alicia
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi Alicia,
>
>  Thanks for your patience, and your interest in Open Office.
>
>  You might want to try NeoOffice - http://www.neooffice.org - it's based on
> Open Office, and is a lot (read - WHOLE LOT) easier to install.
>
>  Please let me know if you have any problems installing it.  Also, what
> version of OS X are you running?
>
> --
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Re: [users] mac os X help again

[Chad Smith]

On 12/13/05, Alicia Spjute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for your help those of you that responded.  I've installed x11
> and java 1.5 is on my system, but I still can't install OO.  It
> downloads just fine and lets me copy it to the applications folder,
> but when I open it it moves to the dock for about five seconds, then
> automatically closes.  Anything else I can try before I give up?
> -Alicia
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi Alicia,

Thanks for your patience, and your interest in Open Office.

You might want to try NeoOffice - http://www.neooffice.org - it's based on
Open Office, and is a lot (read - WHOLE LOT) easier to install.

Please let me know if you have any problems installing it.  Also, what
version of OS X are you running?

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[users] Re: [discuss] [Writer] [2.0] Pourquoi copier M$-Office ?

[Matej Cepl]

Michel Pinquier wrote:
>> Exemple :
>> Vous utilisez le style "corps de texte" pour rédiger un texte. En
>> France, les textes sont justifiés (à gauche et à droite), par conséquent
>> vous avez coché cette option dans le style "corps de texte".
> 
> As-tu bien vu l'option 'Dernière ligne' face à la justification dans la
> boîte des styles ?
> 
> Il te suffit de mettre 'à gauche' (c'est la valeur par défaut).

You would be probably better served by the French OOo community. Their
website is http://fr.openoffice.org and email list users@fr.openoffice.org

Best luck,

Mat?j

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[users] [moderated]

[Sal]

Why is it so slow to open? Can't anything be done to speed it up?
Thanks
Sal


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Re: [users] falhas no funcionamento do programa Open Office

[Asrail]

CPHennessy, 13-12-2005 04:59:

On Mon December 12 2005 17:24, + justina.maria1 wrote:

 [ MODERATED ] 
Bom dia,

Carreguei ontem o programa Open Office e fiz uma experiência com uma
planilha Open Office org calc. Constatei a falha das funções de cores para
o fundo das celulas e para as bordas das mesmas, apesar de ter efetuado as
operações normais : seleção dos elementos a serem corados e clic sobre os
icones ou lugares adequados.

Só funcionam direito as cores dos caráters.

Solicito o favor de me indicar a maneira de obter o funcionamento normal
das duas funções acima referidas.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

[CPHennessy]

On Tue December 13 2005 13:57, + Richard J Faulder wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] ***
> Two questions:
> 1. Have I been registered? I filled in the survey form, but there was no
> email confirming my registration .
This may take awhile as the mail server may be quite busy. 

> 2. Does the spreadsheet have a tool to break up imported text confined to a
>  single column into multiple columns?  
I think that there is a macro to do this. have a look at http://ooomacros.org.

Please reply to users@openoffice.org only

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Re: [users] [moderated]

[CPHennessy]

On Tue December 13 2005 15:22, + Syah wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have downloaded Open Office and its extra image via p2p in
> openoffice.org.
>
> I have successfully installed openoffice, but just cant installed the extra
> image. I hv burn it on cd and whenever i try to autoplay it it says cannot
> find ooosetup.exe file

Hi Syah,
 Which extra image are you talking about ?
Also what type of operating system are you using ?

Please reply to users@openoffice.org only

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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 1.1.4

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On Tue December 13 2005 15:38, + Margaret Higgins wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> I have the above programme on my competer.  I am new to it and have opened
> the tutorials for OpenOffice Impress.  I am very pleased with them but I
> have been trying to join as a member but when I enter my details and click
> on submit the following message appears:- '301 Couldn't connect to
> database'

Hi Margaret,
 Which database are you talking about ? 
And which type of operating system are you using ?

Please reply to users@openoffice.org only

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Re: [users] Edit MDB (Access) with OpenOffice Base

[CPHennessy]

On Tue December 13 2005 14:27, Oliver Bucher wrote:
> Dear Alll
>
> I have a question. Can I write / edit to a MDB Microsoft Access Database
> with OpenOffice Base?

Not yet, but being able to do so natively by OOo is being developed.

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Re: [users] re: Manuals

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

Solveig Haugland wrote:


Hi all,

>> gordon frank wrote:

>> Are there user manuals to help a first-time
>> user become familiar with each of the components?

The Documentation link  is definitely the place to go.
http://documentation.openoffice.org/

And of course there's online help in the product. The Index tab of the 
Help window is the best approach, I find.


I'm also blogging various tasks in OpenOffice.org 2.0 and StarOffice 
8.0 at   http://openoffice.blogs.com
Jacqueline, Louis, Erwin, Sam, and Ben have blogs as well, which I 
link to from mine. All OpenOffice.org blogs, or at least most of them, 
are listed at http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html   Some 
are instructional, some topical.


I've also found www.oooforums.org to be quite useful.

Solveig
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OpenOffice.org Training, Consulting, and Learning Materials
http://www.getopenoffice.org

"OpenOffice.org Resource Kit" User's guide from Prentice Hall
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0131407457


Although Solveig Haugland did not mention it, she is an author of some 
excellent books that you would probably find useful. Search Amazon.com 
for her name.


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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Paul]

Have a look at 'insert > special character' for a list of
possibilities. You can also use the keyboard shortcut (if you know the
unicode number for character) by using  alt + 

HTH, /paul


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On 12/13/05, Willem Wout / Pragyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear sir
>
> We use open office and want to know how can we make the special letters with 
> the sighns on top of the letter. Is there a list what we can download with 
> all the special sighns on it
> Please let me know
> P. Grimm
> Holland
>

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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Paul]

Don't think you can.  Registration is not mandatory, nor compulsory.

/paul

ps, when posting to email groups its always good to follow these guidelines :
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On 12/13/05, Marek Wnuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dumb question, still...
> I do not have net access on my w98 box. How can I register my copy of
> OOo.2.0.0 ?
> Thanks in advance,
> Marek
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[users] mac os X help again

[Alicia Spjute]

Thanks for your help those of you that responded.  I've installed x11
and java 1.5 is on my system, but I still can't install OO.  It
downloads just fine and lets me copy it to the applications folder,
but when I open it it moves to the dock for about five seconds, then
automatically closes.  Anything else I can try before I give up?
-Alicia
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Re: [users] Merge Printing Address Labels

[peter]

On Tuesday 13 Dec 2005 21:54, John Kelso wrote:
snip


 John
Try following this explanation 
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=28275

Peter

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Re: [users] Edit MDB (Access) with OpenOffice Base

[Daniel Kasak]

Oliver Bucher wrote:


Dear Alll

I have a question. Can I write / edit to a MDB Microsoft Access Database 
with OpenOffice Base?
 


No.
You can connect to tables in the MDB file via an ODBC connection and 
select, insert, update, etc.

You can't edit objects such as forms, queries, reports, etc.

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[users] Merge Printing Address Labels

[John Kelso]

Although I have tried to follow the wizards and instructions, I have been 
unable to create merge print address labels. I have created a new database and 
followed the instructions for creating a new label file, but so far, I can't 
get the merged label print. I have checked the Synchronize box.

It seems to be more difficult that in Word, but it appears that it should work. 
Any hints or is there a tutorial or manual to follow?

John

Re: [users] [moderated]

[Sigrid Kronenberger]

Hi Ron, 

"Ron Moreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> I have a very basic question that I would appreciate an answer to. 
> When I send an OpenOffice document to a MS Word user that user cannot
> open my document.  When I receive a Word document I cannot open it in
> OpenOffice.  Any fix for this.  Thanks.

When you want to send a file to an MS Office-user, you have to save the
document in the .doc-format. To do this, choose "File - Save as" and
select the .doc-format as file-type. Then the other user can read and
edit your file. 

Which version of OOo do you use? The import filters for MS-formats have
been improved a lot in the OOo 2.0 version. So, I'm guessing that you're
using an older version. In this case, an upgrade to the new version will
help you a lot. 


HTH

Sigrid

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RE: [users] Re: Spelling and Header frustration

[Simon]

> 

File -> Wizards -> Install New Dictionaries.

The Wizard will connect to the Net and walk you through it. There are 
twelve English dictionaries available. Australia is at the top of the 
list. (Ironic for the Land Down Under ;) )

Thanks, now to see if it now works reliably. BTW there are maps and
globes available here that show the world the *right* way up!


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Re: [users] OpenOffice.org 1.1.4

[Sigrid Kronenberger]

Hi Margaret, 

"Margaret Higgins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> I have the above programme on my competer.  I am new to it and have
> opened the tutorials for OpenOffice Impress.  I am very pleased with
> them but I have been trying to join as a member but when I enter my
> details and click on submit the following message appears:-  '301
> Couldn't connect to database'

Sorry, I don't understand, what you're trying to do. Where do you want
to enter your details? Within the "Tools / Options" dialog? Or somewhere
else? Can you describe detailed, what you're trying to do? 

Thanks. 

Sigrid

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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Sigrid Kronenberger]

Hi Marek, 

Marek Wnuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

> Dumb question, still...
> I do not have net access on my w98 box. How can I register my copy of 
> OOo.2.0.0 ?

There is no need to register your copy of OOo. You can just use it. When
the dialog appears, you can just select "No, I do not want to register"
or "I have already registered". With both possibilities, the popup
window shouldn't appear, when you start OOo the next time. 


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[users] [moderated]

[Ron Moreau]

I have a very basic question that I would appreciate an answer to.  When I send 
an OpenOffice document to a MS Word user that user cannot open my document.  
When I receive a Word document I cannot open it in OpenOffice.  Any fix for 
this.  Thanks.

[users] OpenOffice.org 1.1.4

[Margaret Higgins]

I have the above programme on my competer.  I am new to it and have opened the 
tutorials for OpenOffice Impress.  I am very pleased with them but I have been 
trying to join as a member but when I enter my details and click on submit the 
following message appears:- 
'301 Couldn't connect to database'

What do I do now?  Thanks for your help. 

Regards, Margaret Higgins

[users] [moderated]

[Syah]

Hi
 
I have downloaded Open Office and its extra image via p2p in openoffice.org.
 
I have successfully installed openoffice, but just cant installed the extra image. I hv burn it on cd and whenever i try to autoplay it it says cannot find ooosetup.exe file
 
Pls help me on this matter
 
Thanks

[users] [moderated]

[Richard J Faulder]

Two questions:
1. Have I been registered? I filled in the survey form, but there was no email 
confirming 
my registration .
2. Does the spreadsheet have a tool to break up imported text confined to a  
single 
column into multiple columns?   
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[users] Re: Problems using OOo 2.0 beta

[Joan Luc Labòrda]

Joan Luc Labòrda wrote:


Adishatz / Hi
I use openoffice.org 1.9 on a Fedora Core 4 box , very often, when i 
launch the program, it crashes with that message
"Fatal: Stack size too small. Use 'java -Xss' to increase default 
stack size.

sh: crash_report: command not found"
I cannot find any information on that bug, what can i do ?
Coralament / Best regards 


The application crashes 3 times over 4 but runs fine the 4th time 
without apparent reason, nothing change in the PC's configuration, i 
just type the command one time more.


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[users] Problems using OOo 2.0 beta

[Joan Luc Labòrda]

Adishatz / Hi
I use openoffice.org 1.9 on a Fedora Core 4 box , very often, when i 
launch the program, it crashes with that message
"Fatal: Stack size too small. Use 'java -Xss' to increase default stack 
size.

sh: crash_report: command not found"
I cannot find any information on that bug, what can i do ?
Coralament / Best regards

Joan Luc Labòrda[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[users] [moderated]

[Marek Wnuk]

Dumb question, still...
I do not have net access on my w98 box. How can I register my copy of 
OOo.2.0.0 ?

Thanks in advance,
Marek


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[users] [moderated]

[Willem Wout / Pragyan]

Dear sir

We use open office and want to know how can we make the special letters with 
the sighns on top of the letter. Is there a list what we can download with all 
the special sighns on it
Please let me know
P. Grimm
Holland

Re: [users] Recompile Calc to support more than 64k rows and 256 columns?

[Dan Lewis]

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 09:54 am, Henrik Sundberg wrote:
> 2005/12/13, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > has the sourcecode of OO Calc been foreseen to be recompiled with an
> > > appropriate option to support more than 64k rows and more than 256
> > > columns (and more than 256 sheets)?
> > >
> > > Gnumeric, for example, allows this...
> > >
> > > And, quite honestly, 64k rows and 256 column is _nothing_ for OLAP or
> > > statistical analysis.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > Wolfgang Keller
> >
> > Wolfgang,
> >
> > This is a very good question and unfortunately, the answer is no. It was
> > already a big undertaking to allow a sheet to support 64K rows rather
> > than 32K rows. The problem is that the program is specifically written
> > to assume a certain number of rows, columns, and sheets as the maximum.
> >
> > Consider the problem of allowing more than 256 columns for a moment.
> > There is a lot of code in a lot of places that assume that there will
> > never be anything more than this. Even worse, the type of variable to
> > hold the number of columns has also been chosen to optimize speed and
> > size of storage. To increase the number of columns, every instance of
> > this must also be changed. It is a difficult and error prone process if
> > it was not assumed from the start
> >
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> > My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
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> >
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> I read the references supplied by Douglas.
> I.e. http://sc.openoffice.org/row-limit.html and
> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=30215 .
>
> The first reference gives me the impression that the hard work is
> done. The 16-bit types (maximizing the row number to 64K) are replaced
> by 32-bit types (I think the type for columns was changed as well).
>
> There seems to be two reasons for not allowing more rows today:
> 1) The issue was about MSO compatibility (solved).
> 2) OOo is too slow as it is. When this is fixed (which seems to be
> within the horizon) the number of rows can be practically unlimited
> (64 bits represent huge numbers).
>
> /$
Specifically, 32 bits is a little less than 4.3 million (4,300,000) and 64 
bits is about 8.5 million.

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[users] Re: Trouble with links between spreadsheets

[Andy Lewis]

Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

OO 2 final - I am having tremendous dificulty with links between
spreadsheets.  I am assuming that the function works like Excel - you
select the cell, press "=" and then select the cell in the other
spreadsheet. (Someone correct me if this is NOT the way to do it?)

The first problem I have is that when I go to make a link to one
particular sheet, it tells me the spreadsheet I want to link to doesn't
exist! Yet there it is, open, not "untitled" and I'm working on it!
the second major problem I am having is that I make a link to another
sheet, select a cell with data in it, yet the cell that contains the
link returns 0! And autocalc IS on.

It also seems to be very flakey - I've just done the above with a new
empty spreadsheet and it works perfectly OK! Yet the sheet that I need
to set up links in, which was also just created this morning, has all
these problems! Can anyone suggest a reason why the links in THIS
particular spreadsheet sre not working properly?


I can't help with the first problem - I can't reproduce it.

The second problem is probably related to the facts that, firstly the 
link is to the saved copy of the "source" file, so any changes made in 
this file can't be picked up until it is saved.  Secondly, links only 
seem to updated when the "receiving" file is opened or reloaded.


So if you had such a link set up, and you wanted to change a cell in the 
"source" file and see the change reflected in the "receiving" file, you 
would need to:

(1) Save the "source" file
(2) Save the "receiving" file, then do "File - Reload".  You will be 
asked whether you want your links updated - say yes and they will be.


(There may be another way to force links to be updated, but I haven't 
found it.)


This seems rather clunky - but then if the two sheets you are working on 
are going to be open at the same time, why not have them within the same 
file - then the updating will be automatic?  Linking from file to file 
seems to be more suited to a situation  where you are working on files 
at different times (or maybe one file is kept updated by one person, and 
the other by a different person).  But of course, I don't know your 
precise needs.


Anyway, hope this helps a bit.

Andy


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[users] Newbie Bibliography Problem

[Chris Share]

Hi,

I've been using OO for a while for simple documents however I now have 
to do something that includes a bibliograpy.


I've had a look at the documentation, and I've managed to create a 
bibliography, make it appear, add entries, etc. However, I'm having a 
problem setting the fields that are displayed.


It seems that only the default fields are being displayed. If, for 
example, I add page numbers to the entry in the database, I can't get 
them to appear in the bibliography.


I can add text to the structure of the bibliograpy entry and this 
appears, however nothing else does.


What am I missing here?

Cheers,

Chris

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Re: [users] Recompile Calc to support more than 64k rows and 256 columns?

[Henrik Sundberg]

2005/12/13, Dan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tuesday 13 December 2005 09:54 am, Henrik Sundberg wrote:
> > 2005/12/13, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Wolfgang Keller wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > has the sourcecode of OO Calc been foreseen to be recompiled with an
> > > > appropriate option to support more than 64k rows and more than 256
> > > > columns (and more than 256 sheets)?
> > > >
> > > > Gnumeric, for example, allows this...
> > > >
> > > > And, quite honestly, 64k rows and 256 column is _nothing_ for OLAP or
> > > > statistical analysis.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > Wolfgang Keller
> > >
> > > Wolfgang,
> > >
> > > This is a very good question and unfortunately, the answer is no. It was
> > > already a big undertaking to allow a sheet to support 64K rows rather
> > > than 32K rows. The problem is that the program is specifically written
> > > to assume a certain number of rows, columns, and sheets as the maximum.
> > >
> > > Consider the problem of allowing more than 256 columns for a moment.
> > > There is a lot of code in a lot of places that assume that there will
> > > never be anything more than this. Even worse, the type of variable to
> > > hold the number of columns has also been chosen to optimize speed and
> > > size of storage. To increase the number of columns, every instance of
> > > this must also be changed. It is a difficult and error prone process if
> > > it was not assumed from the start
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Pitonyak
> > > My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
> > > My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
> > > Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
> > > See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html
> > >
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> > I read the references supplied by Douglas.
> > I.e. http://sc.openoffice.org/row-limit.html and
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=30215 .
> >
> > The first reference gives me the impression that the hard work is
> > done. The 16-bit types (maximizing the row number to 64K) are replaced
> > by 32-bit types (I think the type for columns was changed as well).
> >
> > There seems to be two reasons for not allowing more rows today:
> > 1) The issue was about MSO compatibility (solved).
> > 2) OOo is too slow as it is. When this is fixed (which seems to be
> > within the horizon) the number of rows can be practically unlimited
> > (64 bits represent huge numbers).
> >
> > /$
> Specifically, 32 bits is a little less than 4.3 million (4,300,000) and 64
> bits is about 8.5 million.
>
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Actually both are bigger:
2^32 = 4 294 967 296

2^64 = 18 446 744 073 709 552 000
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Re: [users] Recompile Calc to support more than 64k rows and 256 columns?

[Henrik Sundberg]

2005/12/13, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Wolfgang Keller wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > has the sourcecode of OO Calc been foreseen to be recompiled with an
> > appropriate option to support more than 64k rows and more than 256
> > columns (and more than 256 sheets)?
> >
> > Gnumeric, for example, allows this...
> >
> > And, quite honestly, 64k rows and 256 column is _nothing_ for OLAP or
> > statistical analysis.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Wolfgang Keller
>
> Wolfgang,
>
> This is a very good question and unfortunately, the answer is no. It was
> already a big undertaking to allow a sheet to support 64K rows rather
> than 32K rows. The problem is that the program is specifically written
> to assume a certain number of rows, columns, and sheets as the maximum.
>
> Consider the problem of allowing more than 256 columns for a moment.
> There is a lot of code in a lot of places that assume that there will
> never be anything more than this. Even worse, the type of variable to
> hold the number of columns has also been chosen to optimize speed and
> size of storage. To increase the number of columns, every instance of
> this must also be changed. It is a difficult and error prone process if
> it was not assumed from the start
>
> --
> Andrew Pitonyak
> My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
> My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
> Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
> See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html
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I read the references supplied by Douglas.
I.e. http://sc.openoffice.org/row-limit.html and
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=30215 .

The first reference gives me the impression that the hard work is
done. The 16-bit types (maximizing the row number to 64K) are replaced
by 32-bit types (I think the type for columns was changed as well).

There seems to be two reasons for not allowing more rows today:
1) The issue was about MSO compatibility (solved).
2) OOo is too slow as it is. When this is fixed (which seems to be
within the horizon) the number of rows can be practically unlimited
(64 bits represent huge numbers).

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[users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[CarlP]

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

Jean Hollis Weber wrote,
 >Andrew Pitonyak wrote,


Jonathon Coombes wrote,


According to my knowledgebase, the hidden paragraph technique
is known NOT to work with version 2.0 at this stage.




Can you download and try one of the version 2.01 releease
candidates and see if it is fixed there?



 > It does not work in 2.0.1RC2. I am downloading RC4 and will
 > check this (among other things) there.

This still doesn't work correctly in RC4.

Regards, Jean



With this in mind, can't the website provide an updated document to 
explain how to properly hide blank merge lines?  It's quite frustrating 
to figure this out if you're new to OO.  It took me months, on and off, 
to get to an answer!  Luckily I'm a patient man who REALLY wants to 
avoid M$ products.


Carl


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[users] Re: [moderated]

[Matej Cepl]

Edward Acayan wrote:
> Are there any issues with distributing OpenOffice via Citrix - meaning,
> can we simply load this on a Citrix server and serve it up to remote
> users? Concerns are regarding installation and licensing.

a) You can do absolutely whatever you want to do with binaries. If you will
have to overcome some obstacles with using OOo over Citrix (I have no idea,
whether there are any -- I have never met Citrix in my life), it would be
nice (but certainly not required) to post somewhere (either here or
somewhere on the Net) your experience and how I did overcome them.
b) You still may consider to buy licences for StarOffice though
 -- you will get
exactly the support for big installations and other tools for enterprise
computing. And of course (which is most important to me) you will support
Sun to further develop OOo.

Best,

Matěj

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[users] Edit MDB (Access) with OpenOffice Base

[Oliver Bucher]

Dear Alll

I have a question. Can I write / edit to a MDB Microsoft Access Database 
with OpenOffice Base?

Best regards

Oliver




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[users] title page formatting

[Andr�s Luk�cs]

In the meantime, I have found that such title pages can be arranged with 
text-boxes. I guess that is the only way to do it. 




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[users] title page formatting

[Andr�s Luk�cs]

I'd like to make a title page that has only one or two lines on it, and I'd 
like these to be positioned vertically in the middle of the page. I cannot 
find anything in Format/Page... that can do this. I hope it can be done the 
same way as in Word, and not just by setting a very large "spacing" above 
the paragraph. That would be really pathetic because 1) it would be 
inaccurate 2) it would have to be readjusted whenever I changed the title 
page. If anyone has any *practical* idea, please drop me a line.

Thanks,
Andrew 




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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Dan Lewis]

On Monday 12 December 2005 02:12 pm, Karie Banks wrote:
> I am teaching myself to use Open Office and I am having troubles
> locating gridlines and to use them.
> Karie

 Open a new document in whatever part of OpenOffice.org (OOo) you want to 
have grids. For text document, Tools > Options > OpenOffice.org > Grids will 
allow you to select what you want to do with grid lines in a text document. 
(This means select Tools, select Options from its menu, select OpenOffice.org 
on the branched list and click the "+" in front of OpenOffice.org, and then 
select Grids from the sublist below OpenOffice.org.)
 If you are concerned with another part of OOo, open that type of document 
in OOo. Do the Tools > Options. Select the part of OOo you want from the 
branched list. It will also have Grids as a part of its sublist.

Dan

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Re: [users] Installation OO v.2.0

[Dan Lewis]

On Monday 12 December 2005 02:03 pm, John Pezzetta wrote:
> I have downloaded the Open Office software but cannot locate the executable
> file for launching the program. Please advise on this procedure. Thank you.

 We need to know what operating system you are using (Windows, Linux, Mac, 
etc.). We also need to know the name of the file you downloaded. Please send 
another email directly to users@openoffice.org with this information. DO NOT 
send it to me personally. Otherwise, no one else on this mailing list will 
see what your problem is.

Dan

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[users] Re: Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[John King]

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:32:16 -0500, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:

> CarlP wrote:
> 
>> Jonathon Coombes wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 10:41 -0500, CarlP wrote:
>>>
 WinXP Home, OO 2, Athlon 1.7GHz

 Folks, I've yet to get any help on this, and it'll make or break my
 ability to use OO for our organization.  BTW, I'm a staff of one
 part-timer, and I've burned a lot of time on this already.

 My problem is with hiding or collapsing certain address lines when
 there is no data in that field.  I've read a ton about how to do this
 (using the Hidden Paragraph function with a "not" or "!" or "NEQ"
 condition) but the "hidden" line remains hidden whether or not there
 is data in the field on that line.  So it seems like hiding works, but
 the condition does not.  There's no other info on that line (e.g. no
 other fields, no other text, no spaces, etc.).

 For further troubleshooting beyond trying different syntax for the
 condition, I've tried creating a new merge document from scratch using
 the same data source.  That too has the same problem.

 What could I possibly be doing wrong, and how can I resolve this?  I
 really want to use OO.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> According to my knowledgebase, the hidden paragraph technique is known
>>> NOT to work with version 2.0 at this stage.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jonathon
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting, and thanks.  This is the first reference I've seen about
>> this issue.  It's a bit disappointing, and I'd hope the user guides,
>> tech articles, and related materials I waded through would explain the
>> correct way to do this, not the way that doesn't work.  Also, this seems
>> to me to be an important basic function of an office suite, so basic
>> it's hard to believe they'd release 2.0 without it.
>>
>> Carl
> 
> I think that the point is that this is a BUG and it should not have been
> released without it.
> Can you download and try one of the version 2.01 releease candidates and
> see if it is fixed there?

According to issues:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=56195
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=36696

it's targeted for 2.0.2

I only hope the useability issues have been addressed as well. For a Word
user who only has to select to include or not include blank lines, the
method used in openoffice is a real turn-off.


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Re: [users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

mike scott wrote:

I'm puzzled as to (a) what hidden /paragraphs/ (would) provide that 
can't be done with /sections/, and (b) why the syntax for the 
conditions seems to be so different.


I could be mis-remembering, but I think that you can't have sections 
inside frames or inside a single column on a multi-column page. I can 
think of many situations in my own work where I would want to have 
conditional or hidden text or paragraphs in one of those situations.



Addendum to my earlier note: AFAIK, you can't use sections inside table 
cells, either.


Well, I'll be darned. I just tested all three of the above 
(frames, columns, and table cells), and discovered that I could 
use sections in each case.


Thanks, Mike! I'm glad to have learned something new and useful 
today. And I've made a note of yet another thing to add to the 
Writer Guide.


Cheers, Jean

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[users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Jean Hollis Weber wrote,
>Andrew Pitonyak wrote,

Jonathon Coombes wrote,

According to my knowledgebase, the hidden paragraph technique
is known NOT to work with version 2.0 at this stage.



Can you download and try one of the version 2.01 releease
candidates and see if it is fixed there?


> It does not work in 2.0.1RC2. I am downloading RC4 and will
> check this (among other things) there.

This still doesn't work correctly in RC4.

Regards, Jean


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Re: [users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Jean Hollis Weber wrote:

mike scott wrote:

I'm puzzled as to (a) what hidden /paragraphs/ (would) provide that 
can't be done with /sections/, and (b) why the syntax for the 
conditions seems to be so different.



I could be mis-remembering, but I think that you can't have sections 
inside frames or inside a single column on a multi-column page. I can 
think of many situations in my own work where I would want to have 
conditional or hidden text or paragraphs in one of those situations.


Addendum to my earlier note: AFAIK, you can't use sections inside 
table cells, either.


Regards, Jean

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Re: [users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Sorry about my rushed answer last time. Here's some more info.

mike scott wrote:

I'm puzzled as to (a) what hidden /paragraphs/ (would) provide 
that can't be done with /sections/, and (b) why the syntax for the 
conditions seems to be so different.


I could be mis-remembering, but I think that you can't have 
sections inside frames or inside a single column on a 
multi-column page. I can think of many situations in my own work 
where I would want to have conditional or hidden text or 
paragraphs in one of those situations.


Regards, Jean
Jean Hollis Weber

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[users] Trouble with links between spreadsheets

[Gordon Burgess-Parker]

OO 2 final - I am having tremendous dificulty with links between
spreadsheets.  I am assuming that the function works like Excel - you
select the cell, press "=" and then select the cell in the other
spreadsheet. (Someone correct me if this is NOT the way to do it?)

The first problem I have is that when I go to make a link to one
particular sheet, it tells me the spreadsheet I want to link to doesn't
exist! Yet there it is, open, not "untitled" and I'm working on it!
the second major problem I am having is that I make a link to another
sheet, select a cell with data in it, yet the cell that contains the
link returns 0! And autocalc IS on.

It also seems to be very flakey - I've just done the above with a new
empty spreadsheet and it works perfectly OK! Yet the sheet that I need
to set up links in, which was also just created this morning, has all
these problems! Can anyone suggest a reason why the links in THIS
particular spreadsheet sre not working properly?


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RE: [users] falhas no funcionamento do programa Open Office

[Catai, J.R.]

Se entendi direito seu problema, tente: click em uma celula, Formatar, Célula e 
Fundo (background) e escolha a cor desjada.

Para colorir as bordas: Formatar, Célula, Bordas e vc deverá ver o menu para 
cores.

Jonatan 

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Importance: High

Bom dia,

Carreguei ontem o programa Open Office e fiz uma experiência com uma planilha 
Open Office org calc. Constatei a falha das funções de cores para o fundo das 
celulas e para as bordas das mesmas, apesar de ter efetuado as operações 
normais : seleção dos elementos a serem corados e clic sobre os icones ou 
lugares adequados.

Só funcionam direito as cores dos caráters.

Solicito o favor de me indicar a maneira de obter o funcionamento normal das 
duas funções acima referidas.

Obrigado.

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[users] Re: Spelling and Header frustration

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Naomi Kramer wrote,
>Simon wrote,
>>2. I want to turn off Headers and Footers on the first page
>> of a document - a simple tick box in Word. How do I do this
>> in OO Writer?

> You need to research Page Styles. If you open the Styles and
> Formatting window (F11) and click on the 4th icon (at the top)
> from the left, you'll see a list of current Page Styles. Go to
> the first page of your document. Click on it so that the cursor
> is on that page, then double-click on First Page. THEN position
> your cursor at the end of the page, click on Insert -> Manual
> Break. Select Page Break, select Default from the drop down
> list, click on OK.

For many documents, a better way to make the second and 
subsequent pages Default is to define the First Page style to 
have a "Next page style" of Default. Then you don't need to put 
in a manual break; when the text on the first page gets long 
enough to continue onto a second page, the second page 
automatically has the Default page style.


More about this is explained in the document "Introduction to 
Styles," available here:

http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0206WG-IntroductionToStyles.pdf
and in "Formatting Pages":
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0204WG-FormattingPages.pdf

Regards, Jean
Jean Hollis Weber

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Re: [users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

mike scott wrote:
Apart from why OOo2 would be released with such a flaw (did it work in 
1.x??),


AFAIK, it did not work in 1.x -- at least I never was able to get 
it to work.


I'm puzzled as to (a) what hidden /paragraphs/ (would) provide 
that can't be done with /sections/, and (b) why the syntax for the 
conditions seems to be so different.


I find sections much more cumbersome than paragraphs for many 
purposes, but I don't have time right now to explain precisely 
why and in what circumstances.


Is there any good reason why it should only be possible to hide 
complete paragraphs rather than arbitrary pieces of text?


You can hide arbitrary pieces of text. It's called "hidden text" 
and works fine for me.


Cheers, Jean

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[users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[Jean Hollis Weber]

Andrew Pitonyak wrote,

Jonathon Coombes wrote,

According to my knowledgebase, the hidden paragraph technique
is known NOT to work with version 2.0 at this stage.



Can you download and try one of the version 2.01 releease
candidates and see if it is fixed there?


It does not work in 2.0.1RC2. I am downloading RC4 and will check
this (among other things) there.

Jean

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[users] Re: Hidden paragraph question, 3rd time

[mike scott]

On 12 Dec 2005 at 9:48, CarlP wrote:
...
> > According to my knowledgebase, the hidden paragraph technique is 
known
> > NOT to work with version 2.0 at this stage.
...
> Interesting, and thanks.  This is the first reference I've seen about 
> this issue.  It's a bit disappointing, and I'd hope the user guides, 
> tech articles, and related materials I waded through would explain 
the 
> correct way to do this, not the way that doesn't work.  Also, this 
seems 
> to me to be an important basic function of an office suite, so basic 
> it's hard to believe they'd release 2.0 without it.

I sympathise.

Apart from why OOo2 would be released with such a flaw (did it work in 
1.x??), I'm puzzled as to (a) what hidden /paragraphs/ (would) provide 
that can't be done with /sections/, and (b) why the syntax for the 
conditions seems to be so different.

Is there any good reason why it should only be possible to hide 
complete paragraphs rather than arbitrary pieces of text?
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Re: [users] [moderated]

[Fajar Priyanto]

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 03:12 am, Karie Banks wrote:
> I am teaching myself to use Open Office and I am having troubles
> locating gridlines and to use them.
> Karie

Hi Karie,
Gridline in where? Calc? Draw?
The menu usually in the "VIEW"
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Re: [users] Installation OO v.2.0

[Fajar Priyanto]

On Tuesday 13 December 2005 03:03 am, John Pezzetta wrote:
> I have downloaded the Open Office software but cannot locate the executable
> file for launching the program. Please advise on this procedure. Thank you.

What platform did you choose? Windows or Linux?
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[Joacim Bülow]

Hello! I have recently installed open office 2.0 but when I log in to my
computer,  a blank "word" document opens. What can I do to solve this
problem?

//Joacim

Re: [users] [moderated]

[CPHennessy]

On Mon December 12 2005 15:49, + Edward Acayan wrote:
>  [ MODERATED ] 
> Are there any issues with distributing OpenOffice via Citrix - meaning,
> can we simply load this on a Citrix server and serve it up to remote
> users? Concerns are regarding installation and licensing.

There are no license issues as OOo is completely free.

Please reply to users@openoffice.org only

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