RE: [users] ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION [on hyperlinks in Calc]

2008-04-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 20:49 13/04/2008 +0400, Heriberto Reinoso Gallegos wrote:
The other day I was trying to replace completely one page I have in 
Microsoft Excel with my linked drawings from AutoCAD for another one 
in Openoffice (spreadsheet) and here is what happen:


When I try to link the first drawing I couldn't do it with the name 
I provided, but the name came very long... You know, The drawings 
are located inside a folder that is inside another one, inside 
another one, in a different hard disk (external) the name came like: 
Disk K/Woodgroup Drawings/final drawings/ etc. etc. and at the end 
the real name of the file I was trying to link... In Excel I just 
write the name of the file, I search for it and It linked it with 
the given name. Is it possible to do so with Openoffice CALC??


You can do something very similar.

o  Select the spreadsheet cell.
o  Go to Insert | Hyperlink.
o  Select Document in the left panel.
o  Under Document in the right panel, press the folder icon (Open 
File) next to the Path window.
o  Browse to the required file.  (Note that, if you do it this way, 
you don't need to type the path.)
o  Select Apply.  The full text now appears in the Text window under 
Further settings.
o  Edit the contents of the Text window to show what you require in 
the cell itself - perhaps by just deleting the parts you don't need.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Re: problem

2008-04-14 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Przemek Kupka wrote:

 #261;#261;#261;#261;#261
Hi Przemek,
It looks like you set the system to enter HTML codes. For example #261; is
HTML code for the Polish nasal a (the letter a with a hook underneath).
Some how you are inputting html code instead of normal ascii/unicode input.
Cheers,
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[users] restart download

2008-04-14 Thread Sebastian van Gass

Hi

I am in the process of downloading OpenOffice from the Virgin mirror,  
UK.


Just a few Mbyte short of the full 158, the 'OOo 2.4.0  
MacOSXIntel_install_en-US.dmg.download' file with a Safari-like icon  
tranformed itself into 'OOo 2.4.0 MacOSXIntel_install_en-US.dmg' with  
an image file icon.


The Mac does not recognize it as an image file though.

Is there any way I can transform this file back to a download file and  
resume the download?


Regards

Sebastian
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[users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-14 Thread S H Manterys
I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small library 
catalogue.
I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for input of 
non-english spelling.
Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
Thank you
Stan Manterys


[users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-14 Thread Brian Lavoie
I want to download Open Office, but will I have to remove Microsoft Office 2003?
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Re: [users] no emacs keybindings in openoffice

2008-04-14 Thread nicky van foreest
Dear Harold,

Thanks for your kind reply.

  If emacs uses the Alt or Alt Gr key then the simple answer is no because
 OOo can't use those keys. For a discussion, see
 http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=70103

That is too bad, becauce I use alt quite a lot in emacs, and find it
very useful at that.

  Won't Word plus emacs bindings run under WINE? Would that save two reboots?

Since I use windows so little (once a year at most) I didn't think of
this. Of course you're right. Thanks again.

bye

Nicky

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RE: [users] OpenOffice downloads

2008-04-14 Thread Bill Milburn
Dave Barton
Thank you Dave

Bill Milburn

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Sent: 13 April 2008 21:10
To: users@openoffice.org
Cc: Bill Milburn
Subject: Re: [users] OpenOffice downloads

 Original Message 
From: Bill Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun 13 Apr 2008 23:00:46 EST

 Hi
 
 Can you please tell me if the Open Office downloads can be separated, 
 rather than downloading all the software.
 
 I realise this is probably a rarely asked question but I need   the 
 Impress part and do not require the other programmes.
 
 Thanks in anticipation of your reply
 
 Bill Milburn

This is actually a frequently asked question. The short answer is no. 
The reason is that while OOo (OpenOffice.org) appears to the user as
different programs (Writer, Calc, Impress, etc.), it is in fact a single
program, which performs different but complimentary functions, drawing on
the resources of a large common core. During the install process you can
select not to install some modules, but this  is not recommended, because
you will loose some functionality and the saving on disk space is
negligible.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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RE: [users] OpenOffice downloads

2008-04-14 Thread Bill Milburn
To James Knott

Thank you James, I will have to download the full monty then.
Your reply was very swift and appreciated

Bill Milburn

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Subject: Re: [users] OpenOffice downloads

Bill Milburn wrote:

  

 Hi

 Can you please tell me if the Open Office downloads can be separated, 
 rather than downloading all the software.

 I realise this is probably a rarely asked question but I need   the 
 Impress part and do not require the other programmes.

  

 Thanks in anticipation of your reply

  

You can only download the complete package.  While it is possible to 
install only some components, that's not recommended, as it won't save 
much disk apace and you may lose some functions.


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Re: [users] I am using version 2.3 of OpenOffice.org. My Problem is:

2008-04-14 Thread Lailja Leila Ware

i have Windows XP Svc Pack 2
i have another question...
does openoffice.org offer an outlook express likeness?
i have a stuck email that freezes my outlook express
all that i've tried to do to delete it doesn't work
seems like the only thing would be to put everything but that email in a 
folder

save it and then delete the whole business
then reinstall outlook express or it's likeness (ie: from openoffice.org?)
just a thought.
thanks for your time,
lailja ware
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is:




Lailja Leila Ware wrote:

I am using version 2.3 of OpenOffice.org. My Problem is:

a friend has sent me a microsoft excel spreadsheet.

when i try to open the attachment (ToLailja.xlsx (779KB)

a window pops up that says:

highlighted in blue:

C:\Documents  Settings\Lailja Leila Ware\Local Settings\Temporary 
Internet Files.


red x  This file does not have a program associated with it for 
performing this action.  Create an association in the Folder Options 
Control Panel


How do i do that?

sure appreciate you help!  i wonder if it's an active x thing i have to 
download???


anywho.standing by,

lailja ware




The clue is in the file extension.  It is .XLSX, which is the new 
Microsoft Office 2007 format, which OpenOffice cannot yet open.  You'll 
have to arrange to have that file saved in the older .XLS format. 
Alteratively, if you only want to read that file, you could install the 
free Microsoft Excel Viewer  Compatibility, available from here:


Excel 2003 Viewer and Compatibility Pack:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0displaylang=en


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[users] Files in Old Version are missing.

2008-04-14 Thread FENCHBO
Installed version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org. My problem is that now some of the  
files/documents from the old version are missing. What can I do about  this?
 
Caroline



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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-14 Thread tispen

Thank you.  I'll keep the whole program.  I appreciate your speedy reply
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tispen wrote:

Hi,

I recently installed Open Office and I do like it very much.  My 
question:  I only use the Writer part of Open office.  The whole program 
takes up a lot of space on my system and all but Writer is stuff I will 
never use.  Is there any way I can save space by just having Writer?




During install, you can do a custom installation, so that only some 
components are installed.  However, that is not recommended, as it will 
not save much space and you may lose some function.  Unlike Microsoft 
Office, OpenOffice is a fully integrated office suite, that brings many 
advantages over the ways things are done in Microsoft Office.  It also 
means that much of the code is shared among the various components, so 
that only the component specific code is not installed, if you do a custom 
install.



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[users] Re: I am using version 2.3 of OpenOffice.org. My Problem is:

2008-04-14 Thread Russell Butler

Lailja Leila Ware wrote:

i have Windows XP Svc Pack 2 i have another question... does
openoffice.org offer an outlook express likeness? i have a stuck
email that freezes my outlook express all that i've tried to do to
delete it doesn't work seems like the only thing would be to put
everything but that email in a folder save it and then delete the
whole business then reinstall outlook express or it's likeness (ie:
from openoffice.org?) just a thought. thanks for your time, lailja
ware -


Hi Lailja

OOo doesn't have an email component, but many use Mozilla Thunderbird 
+/- the Lightning extension, should you need the calendar function.


Get it from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ if you are 
interested. The Mozilla address book is said to integrate well with OOo, 
though it is not a facility I use.


HTH

Russell
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[users] Re: Files in Old Version are missing.

2008-04-14 Thread Russell Butler

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Installed version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org. My problem is that now some
of the files/documents from the old version are missing. What can I
do about  this?

Caroline


HI Caroline

We really need more information to be able to help you. What old 
version were you using?  And what sort of files are missing? Are these 
documents you have created or installation files?


In addition (as OOo runs on several platforms - Mac, Linux, etc., as 
well as Windows) it would help if you told us what operating system you 
were using on your computer.


Please reply _only_ to the list.

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Re: [users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/04/2008, Brian Lavoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to download Open Office, but will I have to remove Microsoft Office
 2003?


No. Provided you have space on your hard disk they can both live and work
happily on the same system.

When you install OpenOffice it will ask you if it should set itself as the
default program for opening Word, Excel and Powerpoint documents. The
default program is the one that Windows invokes when you double click on a
file. You can answer yes or no *separately* for each of the three document
types. Whichever is the default program for a type, you can alway open a
document using the other by *right* clicking on it, choosing Open with ...
and then either picking the program from the list offered or browsing to it
in its installation folder (probably c:\program files\...). Also, you can
change the default program for any type of file by changing its file
association. See the Windows Help for details.

Note that OpenOffice can read and write MS Office documents but the converse
is not true.



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[users] Re: I am using version 2.3 of OpenOffice.org. My Problem is:

2008-04-14 Thread Bob Estes



Lailja Leila Ware wrote:

i have Windows XP Svc Pack 2
i have another question...
does openoffice.org offer an outlook express likeness?
i have a stuck email that freezes my outlook express
all that i've tried to do to delete it doesn't work
seems like the only thing would be to put everything but that email in a 
folder

save it and then delete the whole business
then reinstall outlook express or it's likeness (ie: from openoffice.org?)
just a thought.
thanks for your time,


I had that problem several times last year before I switched from Outlook 
97 to Thunderbird.  I have not had the problem at all since the switch 
over.  The only way I could delete the stuck email was to go to my ISP's 
website, log into my account, and delete the file there.  The next time I 
opened up Outlook, the file was not there to download, and Outlook wasn't 
frozen.  But like I said earlier, I haven't had that problem since I 
switched to Thunderbird.



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Re: [users] Inquires from Korea

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/04/2008, SSANAI4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear
 Sir or Madam,
 I am wring to ask about your license policy. If my email is being
 sent to a wrong point.
 Please, kindly forward this email to the right person who is
 dealing with it.
 I am running a web-site ( www.usboffice.kr ) and this
 web-site is dealing with USB Storage device and it's uses.
 I would like to provide the member of the web-site with Portable version
 OpenOffice.
 A few questions about
 Redistributing OpenOffice as
 follows;
 1. I found a web-site to distribute OpenOffice(
 www.portableapps.com ), Can I do the same things? ( making a
 portable version of OpenOffice and distributing)
 2. If I can modify and redistribute Both applications ( like
 www.portableapps.com ), I would like to do it using the name of
 portable OpenOffice and it's icons.
 3. If there is any requirement for me to distribute Portable
 version of OpenOffice, what is it?
 Your kind reply would be highly appreciated.
 Fathfully yours,
 Ju, Lee


The non-portable version of OpenOffice  - the one from www.openoffice.org -
can be freely distributed provided you meet the terms of the licence. You
can read the licence at www.*openoffice*.org/*license*.html. For more
information about distributing and marketing OpenOffice, please go to 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/.

The portable version of OpenOffice belongs to Portableapps and you must
discuss distribution with them. They are at www.portableapps.com.

Note that the two versions are different. The OpenOffice.org version for
Windows cannot run from a USB key or similar device as it requires entries
in the Registry. Portableapps.com have changed the software to allow it to
be executed in this way. Under the terms of the licence anyone may change
OpenOffice provided they meet the terms of the licence.

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Re: [users] [moderated] bank transfer to OOo project

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 i want to make a contribution with my credit card NOT paypal. How do i do
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Hello,

You can make a bank transfer:
Bank Transfer

If you wish to use bank transfer, our bank account information is:
 Account Owner: Team OpenOffice.org e.V.  Bank: Deutsche Bank Hamburg  Bank
Number: 200 700 24  Account Number: 0480 0249 00  Swift Code: DEUT DEDB HAM
IBAN: DE25 2007 0024 0480 0249 00
(see http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html)

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Re: [users] OOo_2-4-0 - Links in Tabellen bremsen PC aus

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/12, Ralph Patzwall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hallo Openoffice,

 ich nutze täglich Openoffice, insbesondere die Calc-Anwendung.

 In einigen Tabellen verwende ich Verknüpfungen zu Daten anderer
 Tabellen, zwecks weitere Verarbeitung und Anzeige.

 In der neuen Version 2.4.0 habe ich folgendes Problem:
 Meine Tages-Tabelle braucht ewig lange um zu öffnen, die CPU-Last ist
 dabei enorm und ohne, dass etwas Sichtbares passiert, bzw. die
 Tabelle sich öffnet.

 Nachdem ich die Akutalisierung der Verknüpfung mit Nein beantworte,
 geht es zügig. Also habe ich mir die Liste der Verknüpfugen mal
 angesehen. Sie war ellenlang. Die Tabelle, mein sogenanntes
 Tagesblatt liest aus einer Monatstabelle die dort enthaltenen
 Informationen Zeilen-(tages-)weise aus. Jede neue Zeile wird dann als
 Verknüpfung (pro Tag 10 Stück)im Tagesblatt gespeichert.

 Daraufhin habe ich also alle Verknüpfungen gelöscht. Sehr aufwendig,
 da nur einzeln möglich. Warum lassen sich nicht alle gleichzeitig
 markieren und entfernen? Gibt es eine andere Variante für diese Art
 der Verknüpfungen, die sich ja täglich ändern?

 Also alle Verknüpfungen waren entfernt und Tabelle gespeichert.

 Trotzdem dauerte es ewig, also deutlich länger als unter OOo 2.3.1,
 bis die Tabelle sich öffnete, weshalb ich die neue Version eben
 wieder gelöscht habe.

 Welche Gründe kann es für das beschriebene Verhalten geben?

 Mit freundlichen Grüßen
 Ralph Patzwall


Hallo Ralph,

Diese Liste ist auf Englisch.
Bitte kontaktieren sie die deutschsprachischen Seite OpenOffice.orgs
http://de.openoffice.org
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[users] FAO Ganesha BhaskaraRe: [users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
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Re: [users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-14 Thread Alberto Muller

NO. You cxan keep both on your computer.
Regards

A.Muller

Brian Lavoie a écrit :

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Re: [users] [moderated]

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/11, Karel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I installed the history manager extension to open office 2.4, now how do i
 delete the listing of documents saved.  please respond asap


Hello again,

If the History Manager extension is installed, you will find it in the top
menu under Tools (or Extra)  Extensions (last item in the droplist) 
History Manager
The History Manager opens with a small window, where you can choose
- the number of files you want in the Recent Files droplist (10 by default)
- clear the list (-- this will be your option to clear out _all_ files,
not only the ones that don't exist anymore)
- OK / Cancel / About the History Manager

So you can't just delete the files that don't exist, you can only clear the
whole list.

HTH
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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small library
 catalogue.
 I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for input
 of non-english spelling.
 Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
 Thank you
 Stan Manterys


OpenOffice handles spell checking using a combination of dictionaries and
styles.

The first step is to download and install the dictionaries you need. This is
done via a Wizard.

You can now set up a default language which will be used for spell
checking if you say nothing else.

You can change the default language at any time. You can also change it
temporarily for this document. So, for example, if you normally write in
French, you would probably set your default language to French. But if you
want to write a document in German, just change to German for this document
only. The setting will be remembered with the document. New documents will
continue to use the default French. You could also have different templates
for different languages if you prefer that mechanism.

If you want to write multi-lingual documents you can tell OpenOffice to use
a different langauge for each paragraph or even for each word using
styles. This subject is too complex to for a simple e-mail but is fully
documented in the free OpenOffice documentation available from the
OpenOffice web site www.openoffice.org. Basically you establish a style
for each language and then set (1 or 2 clicks) the appropriate style as
necessary. OpenOffice uses the language of the style to do spell checking.
If you do this sort of thing a lot you could set up templates containing
definitions of the appropriate styles.

OpenOffice also makes provision for the use and spell checking of
non-Western alphabets such as Urdu, Hebrew,  Esperanto etc. and for
languages like Hebrew which are written right-to-left. Again all this is
fully documented in the free user guides downloadable from the web site.
There are also books available for  purchase.

Of course, all this assumes (a) you have the relevant dictionaries installed
and (b) you have a means of entering the appropriate foreign characters -
Russian keyboard for example.

All these mechanisms are built into OpenOffice. No separate proofing tools
are required. And of course, OpenOffice is free, as is the documentation and
support :-)

Hope this helps.

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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/04/2008, Harold Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 14/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small
  library catalogue.
  I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for
  input of non-english spelling.
  Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
  Thank you
  Stan Manterys
 

 OpenOffice handles spell checking using a combination of dictionaries and
 styles.

 The first step is to download and install the dictionaries you need. This
 is done via a Wizard.

 You can now set up a default language which will be used for spell
 checking if you say nothing else.

 You can change the default language at any time. You can also change it
 temporarily for this document. So, for example, if you normally write in
 French, you would probably set your default language to French. But if you
 want to write a document in German, just change to German for this document
 only. The setting will be remembered with the document. New documents will
 continue to use the default French. You could also have different templates
 for different languages if you prefer that mechanism.

 If you want to write multi-lingual documents you can tell OpenOffice to
 use a different langauge for each paragraph or even for each word using
 styles. This subject is too complex to for a simple e-mail but is fully
 documented in the free OpenOffice documentation available from the
 OpenOffice web site www.openoffice.org. Basically you establish a
 style for each language and then set (1 or 2 clicks) the appropriate style
 as necessary. OpenOffice uses the language of the style to do spell
 checking. If you do this sort of thing a lot you could set up templates
 containing definitions of the appropriate styles.

 OpenOffice also makes provision for the use and spell checking of
 non-Western alphabets such as Urdu, Hebrew,  Esperanto etc. and for
 languages like Hebrew which are written right-to-left. Again all this is
 fully documented in the free user guides downloadable from the web site.
 There are also books available for  purchase.

 Of course, all this assumes (a) you have the relevant dictionaries
 installed and (b) you have a means of entering the appropriate foreign
 characters - Russian keyboard for example.

 All these mechanisms are built into OpenOffice. No separate proofing
 tools are required. And of course, OpenOffice is free, as is the
 documentation and support :-)

 Hope this helps.

 --
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 London, England
 Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org


Whoops - Esperanto use a Western alphabet; slip of the pen. Sorry.

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[users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread NoOp
On 04/13/2008 10:44 PM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:
 
 NoOp wrote:
 
 BTW: where are you getting M6 from? M3 installed fine for me (.deb
 files), but M5 keeps wanting to be king of the hill and take over my 2.4.0.
 
 ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/DEV300/DEV300_m6/Build-1
 
 This is Pavel Janik's build.
 

Thanks - got it. Whew, that build doesn't install to ooo-dev and instead
installs to /opt/openoffice.org3.0, so it took me awhile to figure out
how to get 2.3.1, 2.4.0, and 3.0M6 all working on the same machine.

2.3.1 exhibits the problem described by the OP - but not consistent -
meaning that sometimes it goes into cpu overload, other times not.
Sometimes can open, sometimes not - very odd.

2.4.0  3.0M6 open OK, but 3.0M6 is definitely slower in opening.
Additionally, the document spacing is different between the two. Example:
- page 20 in M6 shows 'Student' thru 'Afstudeer coördinator'.
- Page 20 in 2.4.0 'maart t/m mei 2007  literatuurstudie' thru 'Student'.

Both running on the same system, both are open at the same time   using
the same fonts. I'm not sure where the spacing problem comes from.

I wonder if the problem on 2.3.1  SO8/9 and 2.4.0 (see below) are
related to the fact that the document is basically a 21 page table.

I also found that if I select the table in 2.4.0 and give it borders, I
get a cpu overload (this is a 2.4Ghz/1GB system). I do not have the same
problem with 3.0M6.

So it appears to be a problem in the 2.x as you mentioned in your
initial reply. My guess would be that he would not encounter the problem
if he'd have used frames instead of a 21 page table.








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Re: [users] OpenOffice and Mac 5.0 (Leopard)

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/12, Rodney D. Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Apr 10, 2008, at 6:33 PM, Camilla Camburn wrote:

  Does anyone know if OpenOffice is compatible with Leopard OS?
 
  Thanks.
 
  C. Camburn
 

 Yes. Using it here on a leopard MBP

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Hello Camilla,

Here too...
You can download directly from http://download.openoffice.org
where your OS and language will normally be spotted by the site
or visit the Mac porting pages at http://porting.openoffice.org/mac
and read about the X11 version and the still experimental Aqua version.

-- 
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and brazilian OOo SRC 680 m241 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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Re: [users] restart download

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/14, Sebastian van Gass [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi

 I am in the process of downloading OpenOffice from the Virgin mirror, UK.

 Just a few Mbyte short of the full 158, the 'OOo 2.4.0
 MacOSXIntel_install_en-US.dmg.download' file with a Safari-like icon
 tranformed itself into 'OOo 2.4.0 MacOSXIntel_install_en-US.dmg' with an
 image file icon.

 The Mac does not recognize it as an image file though.

 Is there any way I can transform this file back to a download file and
 resume the download?

 Regards

 Sebastian
 _
 Mac OS X 10.5.2 Intel


Hello,

Before, there were problems with download thru Safari, so maybe it's wise to
use Firefox.
I also had some instances where the download never finished on my Intel iMac
and I had to do the download elsewhere...
There's a Mozilla (Firefox) Add-on that will help download and resume.
Or try another mirror?

HTH
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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-14 Thread Drew Jensen

Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 14/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small library
catalogue.
I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for input
of non-english spelling.
Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
Thank you
Stan Manterys





  


snip



Hope this helps.

  
Harold is correct with his description regarding the word processor 
module in OpenOffice.org.


However to your question, data entry controls in OpenOffice.org do not 
automatically perform any spell checking functions.


It would be possible to implement something using scripting and all the 
features Harold touched on are available via the application built in 
scripting engine and API.


Before I tell you that this would be easy or not though, can you tell me 
how you would want it catered for as you put it?


Thanks

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Re: [users] Re: problem

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/14, Jonathan Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Przemek Kupka wrote:

  #261;#261;#261;#261;#261
 Hi Przemek,
 It looks like you set the system to enter HTML codes. For example #261;
 is
 HTML code for the Polish nasal a (the letter a with a hook underneath).
 Some how you are inputting html code instead of normal ascii/unicode
 input.
 Cheers,
 Jonathan


If you can't make OOo accept your keyboard entries (if you have these
special characters on your Polish Keyboard), there is Insert  Special
Characters

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Re: [users] Files in Old Version are missing.

2008-04-14 Thread James Knott

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Installed version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org. My problem is that now some of the  
files/documents from the old version are missing. What can I do about  this?
 
  


Installing OpenOffice should have absolutely no effect on any 
documents.  Why do you think they're missing?



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Re: [users] I am using version 2.3 of OpenOffice.org. My Problem is:

2008-04-14 Thread James Knott

Lailja Leila Ware wrote:

i have Windows XP Svc Pack 2
i have another question...
does openoffice.org offer an outlook express likeness?
i have a stuck email that freezes my outlook express
all that i've tried to do to delete it doesn't work
seems like the only thing would be to put everything but that email in 
a folder

save it and then delete the whole business
then reinstall outlook express or it's likeness (ie: from 
openoffice.org?)

just a thought.
thanks for your time,
lailja ware


OpenOffice does not include an email program.  However, many people find 
Thunderbird works well.  You can get it for free from www.mozilla.org.  
While you're there, you might also want to get Firefox as a replacement 
for Internet Express.


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Re: [users] Open Office 2.4 stops working and blocks the entire PC

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, H. Zok wrote:

 As soon as I activate the *spell check* my PC comes to a standstill.
 Open Office opens the spell check window as we all know it
 (supposedly indicating the wrong word in the top section and suggesting
 a correction in the lower section), but it is empty. At that moment
 nothing more can be done. Open Office stops operating, Windows is blocked,
 and I have great problems shutting down the programme altogether.
 It takes minutes to convince Windows that it is supposed to shut down
 Open Office.
 I have tried several language versions - it is the same everywhere.
 Who can help?

Please read the following explanations to make sure that your handling
of spell checking is correct.  -

'Spell check and Language configuration'
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=67

What do you mean with I have tried several language versions?
Could you explain these steps?

Please disable (if enabled)
[ ] Check in all languages
in
Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids | Options.

Do you have the same problems with 'AutoSpellcheck'?

Which version of OpenOffice.org do you use?

Manfred

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Re: [users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-14 Thread James Knott

Brian Lavoie wrote:

I want to download Open Office, but will I have to remove Microsoft Office 2003?
_
  


No, you can have both on the same computer.  The only thing you'll have 
to watch for, is during the installation you'll be asked if you want to 
make OpenOffice the default application for Microsoft Office files.  
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Re: [users] use of non-english spelling characters in creating data

2008-04-14 Thread Harold Fuchs
On 14/04/2008, Drew Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Harold Fuchs wrote:

  On 14/04/2008, S  H Manterys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
   I am evaluating Open Office for suitability in my non-profit small
   library
   catalogue.
   I have Microsoft Windows XP 2000, with Microsoft Proofing Tools for
   input
   of non-english spelling.
   Does Open Office database cater for non-english spelling, and how?
   Thank you
   Stan Manterys
  
  
  
 
 
 
 

 snip


  Hope this helps.
 
 
 
 Harold is correct with his description regarding the word processor module
 in OpenOffice.org.

 However to your question, data entry controls in OpenOffice.org do not
 automatically perform any spell checking functions.

 It would be possible to implement something using scripting and all the
 features Harold touched on are available via the application built in
 scripting engine and API.

 Before I tell you that this would be easy or not though, can you tell me
 how you would want it catered for as you put it?

 Thanks

 Drew


Whoops again. Not my day.  Simply didn't read the question properly. Thank
you, Drew.



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Re: [users] Turning Off Recovery

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Robert,

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:58 AM, Robert A. Shaffer wrote:

 I am using version 2.4 of OpenOffice.org.
 My problem is that I cannot get rid of a recovery notification window
 regarding a Power Point file.
 How do I prevent this notice from appearing?
 Note that the file cannot be recovered.

Close OOo (if enabled, also quickstarter).

Open the file Recovery.xcu with a text editor
and have a look at the entries.
If (only) the mentioned file is listed, close Recovery.xcu
and rename it to e.g. Recovery.xcu.old.
If all is working fine, you should delete this file.

Path of Recovery.xcu (OOo 2.4 / WinXP):
...\Documents_and_Settings\name\Application_Data\OpenOffice.org2\user\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office

Then restart OOo.
Go to Tools | Options | Load/Save | General
and verify your settings.

Manfred

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2008-04-14 Thread Rodney D. Myers

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Re: [users] FAO Ganesha BhaskaraRe: [users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara



Harold Fuchs wrote:

On 14/04/2008, Ganesha Bhaskara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

Mr. Bhaskara,
I have seen interesting replies from you to several questions in this list.


I don't like companies who force me to rely on/pay money to them to 
access my own data ... ;-)



Unfortunately they will not be seen by the people to whom you think you
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This list [controversially] accepts questions from users who have not
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I believe this is a good thing. Our goal here is to build a good support 
system for OO. Distributed, parallel human computation  nothing 
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Re: [users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara



NoOp wrote:

On 04/13/2008 10:44 PM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:

NoOp wrote:

BTW: where are you getting M6 from? M3 installed fine for me (.deb
files), but M5 keeps wanting to be king of the hill and take over my 2.4.0.

ftp://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/devel/DEV300/DEV300_m6/Build-1

This is Pavel Janik's build.



Thanks - got it. Whew, that build doesn't install to ooo-dev and instead
installs to /opt/openoffice.org3.0, so it took me awhile to figure out
how to get 2.3.1, 2.4.0, and 3.0M6 all working on the same machine.

2.3.1 exhibits the problem described by the OP - but not consistent -
meaning that sometimes it goes into cpu overload, other times not.
Sometimes can open, sometimes not - very odd.

2.4.0  3.0M6 open OK, but 3.0M6 is definitely slower in opening.
Additionally, the document spacing is different between the two. Example:
- page 20 in M6 shows 'Student' thru 'Afstudeer coördinator'.
- Page 20 in 2.4.0 'maart t/m mei 2007  literatuurstudie' thru 'Student'.

Both running on the same system, both are open at the same time   using
the same fonts. I'm not sure where the spacing problem comes from.

I wonder if the problem on 2.3.1  SO8/9 and 2.4.0 (see below) are
related to the fact that the document is basically a 21 page table.

I also found that if I select the table in 2.4.0 and give it borders, I
get a cpu overload (this is a 2.4Ghz/1GB system). I do not have the same
problem with 3.0M6.

So it appears to be a problem in the 2.x as you mentioned in your
initial reply. My guess would be that he would not encounter the problem
if he'd have used frames instead of a 21 page table.


Yes . that I thought was a rather strange choice for formatting the 
document. But, that said, technically OO shouldn't really care about 
semantics.


I will submit a bug report later today about this issue.

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Re: [users] open office problem

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/12, erik derohanian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I use Microsoft word, but after installing and uninstalling open office
 2.something  every time I try to open word, I get the message There is not
 enough memory or disk space to run word.  I have the problem with excel and
 powerpoint too. Do you know how I can fix it?

 Thanks,

 Ejdo



Hello,

Since you uninstalled OpenOffice.org, I don't see how it could interfere
with the memory usage of your computer.  As for the available disk space, I
suppose you can easily verify this (I don't know how, I don't use Windows,
as I suppose you are doing). You may throw away the OOo files if you don't
intend to use them (Why? is something the people from OOo always like to
know...)

If this doesn't clarify your problem, please be more specific about your
computr, Ooperating System, etc.


Guy
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and brazilian OOo SRC 680 m241 on an Intel MacBook Pro Leopard
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[users] Re: ****SPAM(5.2)**** [users] Inquires from Korea

2008-04-14 Thread Gary Baribault

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Remove the 'Dear' at the beginning and the 'Faithfully' at the end and 
try again, it should then get thru. :-)


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Re: [users] [moderated] YOU MUST GIVE A SUMMARY HERE

2008-04-14 Thread Guy Voets
2008/4/10, Simard Adrien [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 have downloaded the update 2.4 of Open Office (french version) Since I
 work and use Open Office as well in French as in English, How do I get the
 English dictionnary to correct my work of files ??

 Regards

 Adrien


Bonjour Adrien,

Take a look at this tutorial:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=67

Install the English dictionary if it isn't there yet, use paragraph styles
to tell the speller in which language it has to check which text.
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[users] Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-14 Thread R N D Martin
In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and paste  to
batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem to have
to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what I have
pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and awkward.  Have I
missed something?

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2008-04-14 Thread Twayne
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Re: [users] Can I Keep Microsoft Office?

2008-04-14 Thread web at work



James Knott wrote:
Brian Lavoie wrote:
I want to download Open Office, but will I have to remove Microsoft 
Office 2003?

_



No, you can have both on the same computer.  The only thing you'll have to 
watch for, is during the installation you'll be asked if you want to make 
OpenOffice the default application for Microsoft Office files.  This is 
entirely your personal choice and can be easily changed later.




Yes, you can have MS Office 2003 on your computer with OpenOffice.org.

I have MS Office 2003 pro and OOo 2.4 on my laptop, but I use
OOo for most of my work.

At times, you may be required to have MS to do support something or
someone, but for me, that does not happen more that once a month or so.

If you do not NEED MS Office 2003 on the computer, uninstall it.  Then
save the MS CDs or DVD in a save place with the install codes.  I have
uninstalled it once or twice to make more room on the laptop to work on
some very large projects.  With everything I have on it, my laptop has
only bout 16 gig out of the 80 gig free.

If you run out of space - less that 10% free - I would look into adding a
second drive.  Easier to do on a desktop.  If you have a laptop, look into
the cost of a larger drive.  I just have not had the time to do it lately.

Remember, it is up to you.  Keep MS or not.  I do, but I must support
a few who will not switch.  The only real reason to uninstall MS Office is
for the space on the drive.

T.L. in New York State, USA 




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Re: [users] unsubscribe me please

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:54:24 -0700
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 It's broke. :-(

I take it then, you've had no luck trying to initiate the process from
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Re: [users] format.

2008-04-14 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2008/4/14, Alex Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Howard said the following on 04/13/2008 05:46 PM:

  Thanks but I don`t want it as the default template,I just want it to
  open in
  the same format,with the columns changed that I saved it as.
 
  I have two same puters and on one it does this,and the other it won`t.
 
 
 I tried this and it works fine on 2 installations of Ubu 7.1w/OOo2.3 and a
 WinXP w/OOo2.4 install. I set 5 rows and 5 columns to larger than default
 dimensions and save it with 2.3.


Saved WHAT? The settings? The file you were working with?

 It reopened in the same condition on all 3 systems.


Opened Calc with an empty document or opened the same document as the
one you worked with last time?

I dunno.

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Re: [users] Rechtschreibung in OpenOffice2.4

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Friedel,

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Friedel H. Weber wrote:
 Hallo,

 ich schaffe es nicht, in OpenOffice Writer 2.4 das
 deutsche Wort Muße zu schreiben. ... Zeit der Muße ...
 Immer macht er daraus Musse. Was kann man tun?

 Herzlichen Dank für eine Lösungsantwort!


(1)
You've got already three replies -
have a look at the mailing list archive of users@openoffice.org  -

Rechtschreibung in OpenOffice2.4
http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=usersby=threadfrom=2030158


(2)
The German word Muße is correct for old and new German spelling.
Similar words are Muse (another sense)
or muss (new) / muß (old).

The word Musse doesn't exist in German (Germany, Austria, Luxembourg).

German (Switzerland, Liechtenstein) have no ß.
Here Musse is correct - not Muße.


(3)
You're writing: Immer macht er daraus Musse.

That could mean:
Muße is always *replaced* with Musse.
If it is *replaced*, that's an issue with AutoCorrection.

But it could mean also:
Musse is always *proposed* by a spell checker,
when you're typing Muße ...


It isn't easy ...  ;-)

Please specify your problem in *English*
and come back here to users@openoffice.org

... or send a mail (in *German*)
to the German language OOo mailing list, see -
http://de.openoffice.org/about-ooo/about-users-mailinglist.html

... or (*only* in that case!) reply (in *German*)
to my personal address.

Bis dann -
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Re: [users] unsubscribe me please

2008-04-14 Thread Rodney D. Myers

On Apr 14, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:54:24 -0700
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Hello Rodney,


It's broke. :-(


I take it then, you've had no luck trying to initiate the process from
a second email address.   :-((

Up until about a week ago, all I got was bounce messages from the
openoffice.org domain.  Couldn't post, couldn't unsub;  I just got
This message could not be delivered, SMTP error 504.

There's some 'weirdness' going on.


Nothing. I've looked in the ISP's spam folders, nothing.

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Fwd: [users] Open Office 2.4 stops working and blocks the entire PC

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
[for information to users@openoffice.org - mjk]


-- Forwarded message --
From: H. Zok
Date: Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [users] Open Office 2.4 stops working and blocks the entire PC
To: Manfred J. Krause


Manfred J. Krause wrote:

 Hi,

 On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:08 PM, H. Zok wrote:


  As soon as I activate the *spell check* my PC comes to a standstill.
  Open Office opens the spell check window as we all know it
  (supposedly indicating the wrong word in the top section and suggesting
  a correction in the lower section), but it is empty. At that moment
  nothing more can be done. Open Office stops operating, Windows is blocked,
  and I have great problems shutting down the programme altogether.
  It takes minutes to convince Windows that it is supposed to shut down
  Open Office.
  I have tried several language versions - it is the same everywhere.
  Who can help?
 
 

 Please read the following explanations to make sure that your handling
 of spell checking is correct.  -

 'Spell check and Language configuration'
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=67


 I read it, but that was not my problem. Spell check did not work with
either English (USA) nor English (UK) nor German.


 What do you mean with I have tried several language versions?


 I deleted Open Office (very difficult, by the way - even after
deinstallation the settings for the next installation remained intact
- I do not really like this) and downloaded another language version,
first I had the English one, and then the German one. Both
malfunctioned in the same way:

   * Very long time for starting the programme (about 2-3 minutes
 before I could write in the document or do anything else with it)
   * Spell check activation brings my PC to a standstill. Windows (XP)
 does not react to the shut down entry, and it takes minutes to
 close the programme


 Could you explain these steps?

 Please disable (if enabled)
 [ ] Check in all languages
 in
 Tools | Options | Language Settings | Writing Aids | Options.

 Do you have the same problems with 'AutoSpellcheck'?


 Yes, I did, it did not work, in no language.


 Which version of OpenOffice.org do you use?


 The version was 2.4. I deinstalled it now and have returned to the
much-hated Microsoft Office version. I am sorry, but that programme
works, and that is what I need.

 So thank you for your efforts, but I think I will not need any more support.
 Yours,
 H[...] Zok
 [...]


I'll accept that decision and I'll never obtrude undesired support.
I'm not a missionary ...
However - if somebody wants to reply ...

Manfred

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[users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread NoOp
On 04/14/2008 06:42 AM, Ganesha Bhaskara wrote:
 
 NoOp wrote:

 
 So it appears to be a problem in the 2.x as you mentioned in your
 initial reply. My guess would be that he would not encounter the problem
 if he'd have used frames instead of a 21 page table.
 
 Yes . that I thought was a rather strange choice for formatting the 
 document. But, that said, technically OO shouldn't really care about 
 semantics.
 
 I will submit a bug report later today about this issue.
 
 -G

Agree  thanks. Can you please let the OP (M.Briejer) know?


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[users] Text file import to Calc

2008-04-14 Thread Victor Chapman
I have a text file that is columnized (is that a word!) by spaces not 
commas or tabs. The first row has the column headings. How do I import 
this file into calc (or base).


TIA


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[users] Intermittant Right Align problem

2008-04-14 Thread Twayne
Hi all,

OOo 2.4.0 on XP Pro SP2+:
I'm trying to determine whether this is a bug in OOo Writer or not.   If 
it's unheard of, I'll look into submitting a report.

I've received some documents that have manual line breaks (mirrored para 
mark) at the end of each line.  It's a rather long story, but my macros 
were screwing up so I started working manually to see just what was 
going on.
   I'm using spaceDelete at the end of each line to remove the para 
mark and properly apply the formatting to the paragraphs.  In other 
words I'm removing the individual para marks within the paragraphs, 
leaving only the last one in tact.

Intermittantly, but only when I press the space/delete at the end of a 
line, the left alignment jumps to right alignment and I have to stop and 
click the Left Align menu item.  Pretty much of an annoyance.
   It's intermittant, but it will happen during EVERY paragraph, just 
not to every line.  Which line it happens at is unpredictable; it might 
be ther third line, might be the 12th line.
   It usually only happens once per paragraph, but not necessarily; it 
might happen two or three times per paragraph.  The length of the 
paragraphs doesn't seem to matter although a short, one or two line 
paragraph is seldom a problem.
   I've also tried switching the space; delete to delete;space and no 
difference.

   I can find no pattern so far as to when it will happen.  Body text, 
of course.

1.  Is this happening to anyone else?  Or is it something on my end?

2.  Is it a known bug?

3.  Is there a workaround or setting that I may have missed?  I don't 
think so, because of the intermittancy, but ... one never knowsg.

TIA,

Twayne




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[users] TOC entries and links

2008-04-14 Thread Twayne
 Hi,

OOo 2.4.0 on XP Pro SP2+:

This one is probably my own fault but I haven't done anything knowingly 
to cause it.  I recently switched from 2.3 to 2.4 so I'm not sure 
whether it ever worked in the 2.4 version I have.

Problem:
TOC does not include links to the page they reference.

Tried:
Help, and the LE/ES (or whatever it was) settings and clicking to 
set ALL.  Followed instructions as perfectly as I could; no help, so it 
would appear I'm missing something.
   Previous documents created in 2.3 still have the links in the TOCs 
and the links all work when clicked in 2.4.
   Google hasn't helped, nor has searching messages on this group.  I 
suspect it's probably my thick head getting in the way, so I need your 
kind assistance.
   I removed and reinstalled  OOo to no avail, but it now occurs to me 
those settings might be in a file that's not deleted?

1.  HOW do I get the TOC to include links?
   Please, don't just copy the Help paragraphs here; I've read them over 
and over without getting the links to work.  Layman's terms please? 
Some of that Help is a little confusing so I'm probably misnterpreting 
something.  I'm not new to Word or to Writer so you needn't assume I'm a 
complete newbie either.

And, these further questions arose from that effort:

2.  Is there a way to RESET *everything* in Writer,  or even the entire 
OOo?  Remove/reinstall doesn't seem to accomplish that.
Either would be OK with me as I still have 2.3 installed and 
functional.  I'm just getting 2.4 set up so don't mind starting over 
from scratch.  Oh, and yes, I removed 2.3 also when I reinstalled 2.4, 
just in case there was something clnflicting.

Any assistance/advice you could provide would be much appreciated.

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Re: [users] Text file import to Calc

2008-04-14 Thread Anthony Chilco

Hi Victor,
If you change the extension to CSV, you'll get a text import dialogue when you 
open the file ('file / open' or drag and drop). Click the 'Fixed Width' radio 
button, then set the columns by clicking on the ruler.

tc

Victor Chapman wrote:
I have a text file that is columnized (is that a word!) by spaces not 
commas or tabs. The first row has the column headings. How do I import 
this file into calc (or base).


TIA


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Re: [users] Text file import to Calc

2008-04-14 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:54 14/04/2008 -0400, Victor Chapman wrote:
I have a text file that is columnized (is that a word!) by spaces 
not commas or tabs. The first row has the column headings. How do I 
import this file into calc (or base).


This may vary with operating system (which you have kept a 
secret).  In my version 2.4.0 for Windows XP, there are two 
techniques which work.  Either:
o  Right-click the file and select Open With  | scalc (but not 
OpenOffice.org 2.4, which will open the file in Writer).  This 
appears to work whether the file's extension is .txt or .csv.
o  Open the file in a plain text editor and copy and paste the 
material into a Calc spreadsheet.


In either case, this brings up the Text Import dialogue.  Under 
Separator options | Separated by, tick at least space and possibly 
Merge delimiters.


I think the simplest way to get the data into Base is first to put it 
into Calc, as above.  Then:

o  Copy the region of the spreadsheet containing the data.
o  In Base, select Tables in the left panel.
o  Use Edit | Paste (or right-click | Paste in the Tables panel) and 
follow the Copy table dialogue to create a new table with your 
imported data or to append the data to an existing table.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[users] Re: Text file import to Calc

2008-04-14 Thread Victor Chapman

Anthony Chilco wrote:

Hi Victor,
If you change the extension to CSV, you'll get a text import dialogue 
when you open the file ('file / open' or drag and drop). Click the 
'Fixed Width' radio button, then set the columns by clicking on the ruler.

tc


Thank you. I did figure this out although I took a different approach. 
In calc, Insert  Insert from file leads to the same import dialogue.








Victor Chapman wrote:
I have a text file that is columnized (is that a word!) by spaces not 
commas or tabs. The first row has the column headings. How do I import 
this file into calc (or base).


TIA



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[users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread NoOp
On 04/12/2008 01:31 PM, M. Briejer wrote:
 And this is about a little older revised version which I still have because
 I manually save and alter the file names.
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: M. Briejer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2008/4/12
 Subject: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain
 updates of windows
 To: users@openoffice.org
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Until today I was using openoffice 2.3 NL and I suddenly experienced
 problems where the program stalls, recovery after startup fails even
 sometimes. As a result I lost several hours time over time while being on a
 very tight schedule for finnishing my thesis Recovery resulted even
 in a corrupted backup file. A simple moveclick on a pull down menu-file save
 as is even causing long stalls.
 
 So I thought I needed to update to version 2.4 NL and the problems became
 worse. Even while typing in this document (see attachment) the program works
 very very unstable and turns out to be very unreliable.
 
 I hope it's only down to some stupid update of Windows Vista which can be
 undone. My first clues are that it's down to some updates somewhere because
 with version 2.2. things were perfect. Please tell me what is wrong here.
 
 KInd regards,
 
 Machiel Briejer
 

Machiel,

As you are not subscribe to the users mailing list you most likely have
missed the activity  responses to your issue. You can view the thread here:

http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=usersby=threadfrom=2030149

Please see: http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html for
details and how to subscribe or view the archives so that you may see
responses from other OOo users. Please *only* reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] The list responses are from OOo users (like
yourself) so nobody here officially represents OOo.

To sum up the thread:

o Your document has been tested in linux on:
  - OOo 2.3.1, 2.4.0, and 3.0devM6 (development build - not released)
o 2.3.1 and 2.4.0 do exhibit the problems you report - 3.0devM5/6
  does not
o Ganesha Bhaskara has kindly offered to file a bug, but in order to do
  so he'll need to use your document, or a facsimile to do so. Given
  that your thesis is now public (via posting to the list), do you have
  any objection to it being included in the bug report? Hopefully this
  can be fixed in 2.4.1.

If you'd like to try the pre-release 3.0dev in the interim, you can
download the M5 Windows version here:

http://download.openoffice.org/680/?intcmp=1235
- no java is here:
http://download.openoffice.org/680/index-nojs.html

*Please* backup your documents prior to installing 3.0dev  remember
that this is a pre-released OOo version. Also note that I have not tried
your document in 3.0dev Windows as I typically don't use Windows; I can
boot to Windows later today and give it a test if you don't mind waiting
awhile longer.


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Re: [users] Rechtschreibung in OpenOffice2.4

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Alberto, Henning, *,

the problem has been solved by the OP.
It's concerned with fonts, character formatting and
setting font effects to small capitals, here: ß.
Too difficult (for me) to put it in a nutshell.

Details for typography freaks  -
« Capital ß »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%C3%9F

;-)
Manfred



On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Friedel H. Weber wrote:
   Hallo,
  
   ich schaffe es nicht, in OpenOffice Writer 2.4 das
   deutsche Wort Muße zu schreiben. ... Zeit der Muße ...
   Immer macht er daraus Musse. Was kann man tun?
  
   Herzlichen Dank für eine Lösungsantwort!


  (1)
  You've got already three replies -
  have a look at the mailing list archive of users@openoffice.org  -

  Rechtschreibung in OpenOffice2.4
  
 http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=usersby=threadfrom=2030158


  (2)
  The German word Muße is correct for old and new German spelling.
  Similar words are Muse (another sense)
  or muss (new) / muß (old).

  The word Musse doesn't exist in German (Germany, Austria, Luxembourg).

  German (Switzerland, Liechtenstein) have no ß.
  Here Musse is correct - not Muße.


  (3)
  You're writing: Immer macht er daraus Musse.

  That could mean:
  Muße is always *replaced* with Musse.
  If it is *replaced*, that's an issue with AutoCorrection.

  But it could mean also:
  Musse is always *proposed* by a spell checker,
  when you're typing Muße ...


  It isn't easy ...  ;-)

  Please specify your problem in *English*
  and come back here to users@openoffice.org

  ... or [...]


Re: [users] Re: Desktop Icons (Comments please)

2008-04-14 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi Dave, *,

On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Dave Barton wrote:

  Original Message 
  From: jonathon jonathon.blakeatgmail.com
  Date: Sun 13 Apr 2008 12:47:46 EST

  On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:07 PM,  phil wrote:
 
   Why doesn't the install remove these files if the install is
   successful.
 
  Because OOo needs them when uninstalling itself.
 
  xan
 
  jonathon
 

  I am very puzzled by this and the answer from Manfred. [...]

I've read your (and Harold's) statement
and I'll give an answer tomorrow.

But please no further experiments with your wife's notebook ...
;-)

♏anfred



  [...] I have only
  installed OOo for Windows (98, 2000,XP and Vista) with the current
  installer around 200+ times  and I always make it a practice to
  delete/erase/wipe the installation files directory/folder. For various
  reasons I have uninstalled around 20-30 of these same installations and
  never encountered any problems due to the absence of the installation
  files.

  To check the validity of my claim, I have just gone to my wife's Vista
  based notebook, checked that the OOo 2.3.1 installation files did not
  exist and uninstalled it without any errors or problem. I then installed
  OOo 2.4.0, which completed perfectly. subsequently deleting/erasing the
  installation files and uninstalled OOo 2.4.0 Both uninstall processes
  worked perfectly without the need for the original installation files.

 I am aware that a number of people have reported problems with the Windows
 uninstaller failing, but based on my experience I think there is an issue
 other than the absence of the original installation files.

  Dave

 BTW I did restore OOo 2.4.0 in good working order to my wife's notebook.
 I am not that brave/stupid ;)


[users] Re: Fwd: Computer stalls temporalily and sometimes longer since certain updates of windows

2008-04-14 Thread NoOp
On 04/14/2008 01:02 PM, NoOp wrote:

 
 If you'd like to try the pre-release 3.0dev in the interim, you can
 download the M5 Windows version here:
 
 http://download.openoffice.org/680/?intcmp=1235
 - no java is here:
 http://download.openoffice.org/680/index-nojs.html

[use the no java if you already have java installed, as the OOo included
version is Version 6 Update 4 and is already out of date. The current
version of Sun Java is Version 6 Update 5 due to security problems in
Update 4.]

 
 *Please* backup your documents prior to installing 3.0dev  remember
 that this is a pre-released OOo version. Also note that I have not tried
 your document in 3.0dev Windows as I typically don't use Windows; I can
 boot to Windows later today and give it a test if you don't mind waiting
 awhile longer.
 
 

Follow-up: OK, I booted into windows (WinXPPro)  installed 3.0devM5. It
installed very nicely and didn't disturb the existing OOo 2.3.1 that I
have on that drive - meaning that you can run both 2.x and 3.0dev, even
at the same time if you wish.

I then tested your document: 2.3.1 failed miserably. But, the document
opened in 3.0devM5 (quicker than in linux) without any problems at all.
I then did the same test: selected the table, added borders, made a few
changes to the document, etc., and all worked without any problems at
all. So... if it's not too late for the thesis, please give OOo 3.0devM5
a try. Note: I'm recommending M5 rather than M6 as M5 is the one on the
official OOo development page.

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[users] OOXML

2008-04-14 Thread Urbane Tiger
Now that OOXML has been accepted by the ISO as a standard can we
expect OOo will adopt it its the preferred format.

Please no rants - there are plenty of soapboxes that are very much
more visble to the world at large than is this mailing list.


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[users] Re: OT TEST

2008-04-14 Thread Twayne
 Twayne wrote:
  Please forgive the waste of ether; I'm sure I am properly signed up
 here but a post didn't appear  got no e-mail either.  Just testing.



 Got it loud and clear.  Have you checked to see if you're mail
 provider doesn't send back copies of messages you wrote.  I know it
 sounds strange, but that is what GMail does if I use their smtp
 server.

Could have been my ISP I guess.  My OT post appeared, so I took a chance 
and pulled the other ones that never appeared out of the Sent folder, 
fixed them up a bit, and resent; it worked this time.  And no I don't 
have AV monitoring my outgoing e-mails; the normal cause for such a 
problem.  First thing I checkedg.
   No idea what the glitch was.  Watch, now my first posts will be 
rounding the apex in China and Bolivia and will finally end up here 
after allg.
  Don't really think so though; we're having a lot of flooding here and 
I've heard since that others have lost e-mails to the ether too.  I'm 
assuming it must have to do with that.  Water water everywhere and ... . 
OR,  I also did a Restart in between, too, so who knows, that might have 
had something to do with it too.  But my money's on the flooding.
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Re: [users] insert text in column using styles

2008-04-14 Thread Julio Sotolongo

Barbara Duprey wrote:

JOE Conner wrote:

Julio Sotolongo wrote:

Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

Julio Sotolongo wrote:
SNIP



snip

snip

snip



Peter HB

snip

snip.

When you get what you want, then copy/paste into the WRITER document. 
I doubt the transfer from Calc into Writer wold be all that clean, 
though I haven't played with that. A two-column table really should 
work just fine, but Julio is finding that formatting one column's text 
is affecting the other column. I'm not sure why that would be 
happening. Julio, could you explain more about what you're doing to 
format text in one column, and what you see happening to the other 
one? Are you modifying the Table Contents paragraph style? Also, can 
your text get more than a page in depth, or otherwise need to deal 
with page boundaries? If so, what would you like to have happen then?


Barbra, Thanks for your response. It helped me to look more closely at 
what was happening. Creating 2 columns using tables does result in 
them being independent from each other.

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Re: [users] OOXML

2008-04-14 Thread Fred A. Miller

James Knott wrote:

Urbane Tiger wrote:

Now that OOXML has been accepted by the ISO as a standard can we
expect OOo will adopt it its the preferred format.

Please no rants - there are plenty of soapboxes that are very much
more visble to the world at large than is this mailing list.

  


This is no rant, but anyone who knows anything about OOXML would never 
suggest such a thing.  From a technical perspective, it's an absolute 
disaster, the sole purpose of which, is to further MS lockin.


Exactly!! You can believe that Ballmer is behind it.

Fred

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Re: [users] Text file import to Calc

2008-04-14 Thread Alan Boba
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Victor Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I have a text file that is columnized (is that a word!) by spaces not
 commas or tabs. The first row has the column headings. How do I import this
 file into calc (or base).

 And yet another option:

1. open Calc
2. select File  Open from the menu
3. open the Files of type list box and select the Text CSV
(*.csv;*.txt;*.xls) option
4. select your text file

Calc will now understand that you want to parse the file and will show the
Text Import dialog box.

NOTE: item 3 is correct, *.xls is listed with the Text CSV label. I have no
idea why the .xls extension is listed with the Text CSV type.


Re: [users] Spreadsheet to word processor table

2008-04-14 Thread Ahromi Irawan

Pada Tanggal 04/14/2008 09:26 PM, R N D Martin Menulis:

In Lotus I am used to creating a table and then using cop and paste  to
batch paste direct to  the cells in the table, but in OO I seem to have
to paste special into the document as text, and then turn what I have
pasted into a table.  I find this rather long winded and awkward.  Have I
missed something?

Niall Martin
  

Edit | Paste Special | Formatted Text

HTH

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[users] style organizer in separate window?

2008-04-14 Thread Kenn Goutal

Perhaps my memory is faulty, but I thought *sure* that OO.o writer
used to have a way to bring up the style organizer in a separate window.
Did it?

I cannot find a way to do this at this time -- whenever I bring it up,
it always shows up as a sort of sidebar to the main text window.

I can minimize is to that it takes up nearly no room at all,
but if I want to use it, it uses up maybe 2 of the width of the window.
(Give or take, depending on how I resize it,
but 2 is about the minimum necessary.)

I looked in the help menu, but it just told me how to start the style
organizer such that it comes up in that same fashion.

Am I missing something obvious?


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Re: [users] OOXML

2008-04-14 Thread Ganesha Bhaskara



Urbane Tiger wrote:

Now that OOXML has been accepted by the ISO as a standard can we
expect OOo will adopt it its the preferred format.


I hope OOo does NOT do it. I would be extremely cautious about OOXML as 
I do not trust Microsoft to play fair.


That said, OO 3.0 will support import and export to OOXML.




Please no rants - there are plenty of soapboxes that are very much
more visble to the world at large than is this mailing list.


I resisted from starting the reply with MUWHAHAHAHAHA.




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Re: [users] style organizer in separate window?

2008-04-14 Thread Dave Barton

 Original Message 
From: Kenn Goutal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue 15 Apr 2008 13:05:19 EST


Perhaps my memory is faulty, but I thought *sure* that OO.o writer
used to have a way to bring up the style organizer in a separate window.
Did it?

I cannot find a way to do this at this time -- whenever I bring it up,
it always shows up as a sort of sidebar to the main text window.

I can minimize is to that it takes up nearly no room at all,
but if I want to use it, it uses up maybe 2 of the width of the window.
(Give or take, depending on how I resize it,
but 2 is about the minimum necessary.)

I looked in the help menu, but it just told me how to start the style
organizer such that it comes up in that same fashion.

Am I missing something obvious?


Yes I am afraid you are missing the obvious ;) With the Stylist panel 
open, just left click in a space around the icons at the top of the 
panel, then drag it away from the side of the main window. Hey Presto! 
You have a floating window.


Hope this helps.

Dave



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