[users] right spelling
I will like to know how to close funktion ''right spelling'', it's just a nuisance to me
[users] Is there an advantage of buying StarOffice?
Good evening Recently, I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 3.2 plus a few extensions. Installation of those extensions took me to the Oracle website, where I learned about Star Office (priced at about 35 USD). Here is the situation: * I make most of our living on translation (freelance, in Japan). * About 99.8% of the companies I work for, send me MS files: Word, Excel, sometimes PowerPoint - and naturally expect to get those MS files back. * Yet, I do NOT like MS and WANT to get away from it. * I have used - not really intensively - OpenOffice in the past. So far, so good. * I have to be able to use English, German (both preferrably including spell checking etc.) and Japanese. * So far, OpenOffice allows me to do that. Now, would there be any advantage of purchasing the commercial version of StarOffice over OpenOffice? Mainly with the purpuse of getting away from Microsoft while retaining the ability to handle MS files. The website naturally just describes how wonderful the software is (which is not really helpful), so I thought I ask the learned people on this list for opinions and maybe advice. The price is low enough for an experiment, but I still would like to ask before buying ... Thank you in adavance. Thomas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
In article 4b76e311.6040...@softhome.net, Troll/Idiot poss...@softhome.net wrote: On 13-Feb-10 08:52, Programmer In Training wrote: Top-posting: really bad bottom-posting: still bad, but not as bad as top-posting and generally only horrible without proper snipping. Interleaved responses: ideal and best Well, that's a valid opinion. But it is not about 'opinion' is it? It is about practicality. It is about having a functional mailing list that offers useable advice to people with problems. It might be possible for such a list to function with the flow running from bottom to top - i.e. using top posting - (although I really have to say that for someone coming late to a thread where several people have already contributed the procedure of scrolling to the bottom, scrolling up a bit to find the top of the last - i.e. first - post, scrolling down to read it, scrolling back up to find the top of the next contribution, scrolling down to read it, and repeating that up and down for each posting, is a real pain - it may work fine for a simple question plus answer - it does not work for a discussion), or with the flow running from top to bottom (much easier to follow, but that's my opinion, of course). What is NOT functional is a mix of top- and bottom- posting in the same thread. Such a thread quickly becomes unreadable and hence useless. Thus a mailing list needs to set a rule to ensure that everybody follows the same protocol. That is a matter of practical necessity. As has been pointed out already, the published rule for this list is interspersed posting (ie bottom posting, topic by topic in a post). You may not like that - it may be your 'opinion' that that is not the best way. But the list has to have consistency or it just becomes chaotic. You may, of course, feel that your preference, your 'opinion', overrules the need for a functional list. If that is the case, so-be-it - there is little anyone else can do about that. But perhaps you can see why there needs to be a rule? R. -- Richard Travers ri...@uwclub.net Truro, Cornwall - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Is there an advantage of buying StarOffice?
On 14/02/2010 09:00, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening Recently, I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 3.2 plus a few extensions. Installation of those extensions took me to the Oracle website, where I learned about Star Office (priced at about 35 USD). Here is the situation: * I make most of our living on translation (freelance, in Japan). * About 99.8% of the companies I work for, send me MS files: Word, Excel, sometimes PowerPoint - and naturally expect to get those MS files back. * Yet, I do NOT like MS and WANT to get away from it. * I have used - not really intensively - OpenOffice in the past. So far, so good. * I have to be able to use English, German (both preferrably including spell checking etc.) and Japanese. * So far, OpenOffice allows me to do that. Now, would there be any advantage of purchasing the commercial version of StarOffice over OpenOffice? I would suggest the following actions: 1 Continue with OpenOffice.org until you find a task it cannot perform. 2 Then research Star Office to establish whether it offers the missing functionality. Until such time, why pay to switch? Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu
2010/2/14 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
On 02/13/2010 08:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 02/13/2010 12:15 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
2010/2/13 NoOp ...
Then you didn't actually uninstall 3.1, or you didn't install 3.2.
Please provide details on *exactly* what and how you installed.
Here below, NoOp, the gory details :
1) Downloaded «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz»
package to my Downloads directory.
2) Opened the Synaptic package manager and uninstalled v 3.2.0rc4.
3) Extacted the contents
of «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz» to a folder
called «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483» in my home directory.
4) Opened a terminal, cd-ed into
../OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483/DEBS
5) Installed the Debs files via «sudo dpkg -i *.deb».
After checking to see that the new installation was up and running, I
went
back to Synaptic and uninstalled all the «ooobasis-dev3.1...» files
found
there. Despite this, as noted above, both .odt and .doc files open in
OOo
3.1, as do .pps files. In addition to the
«OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483»
folder mentioned above, the earlier «OOO310_m11_native_packed-3_sv.9399»
folder still is found in my home directory ; would removing the latter
resolve the problem ?...
A few points:
1. You don't need to uninstall (U)OOo, it will reside nicely
side-by-side with standard OOo. There is a trick to this though... you
need to modify the (S)OOo file to to use an alternate profile to the
(U)OOo. This is what I do:
- First set write permissions on /opt/openoffice.org3/bootstraprc
$ sudo chmod +w /opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc
- Modify that file to:
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
Correction:
- Modify that file *from*:
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
to
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
NoOp, thanks for your detailed reply ! My write-protected
«/opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc» file looked like this :
[Bootstrap]
BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
InstallMode=installmode
ProductKey=OpenOffice.org 3.2
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3
[ErrorReport]
ErrorReportPort=80
ErrorReportServer=report.services.openoffice.org
I tried to use the «chmod» command you suggested above, but for some strange
reason, I couldn't get the «+w» option to take, so I decided to run «sudo
chmod 777 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
bootstraprc» instead - an elephant gun to shoot mosquitoes, perhaps, but it
worked. When I open the file, I now see «UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.
openoffice.org/3/3». However, despite this change, when I click an .odt or a
.doc file, it still opens in Writer in OOo 3.1 ! A piece of information
which may or not be useful in this context is that the command which opens
OOo 3.2 is «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice». Hope you can suggest a
way out - I can work around the problem easily enough, by first opening OOo
3.2 and then opening my files from within Writer, but it irritates me that I
can't change the default
Henri
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. You've expressed your opinion (about opinion) in a polite and civil fashion. That's what will keep the list functional. Troll/Idiot Your mother was right. Be polite. On 14-Feb-10 04:57, Richard Travers wrote: In article4b76e311.6040...@softhome.net, Troll/Idiotposs...@softhome.net wrote: On 13-Feb-10 08:52, Programmer In Training wrote: Top-posting: really bad bottom-posting: still bad, but not as bad as top-posting and generally only horrible without proper snipping. Interleaved responses: ideal and best Well, that's a valid opinion. But it is not about 'opinion' is it? It is about practicality. It is about having a functional mailing list that offers useable advice to people with problems. It might be possible for such a list to function with the flow running from bottom to top - i.e. using top posting - (although I really have to say that for someone coming late to a thread where several people have already contributed the procedure of scrolling to the bottom, scrolling up a bit to find the top of the last - i.e. first - post, scrolling down to read it, scrolling back up to find the top of the next contribution, scrolling down to read it, and repeating that up and down for each posting, is a real pain - it may work fine for a simple question plus answer - it does not work for a discussion), or with the flow running from top to bottom (much easier to follow, but that's my opinion, of course). What is NOT functional is a mix of top- and bottom- posting in the same thread. Such a thread quickly becomes unreadable and hence useless. Thus a mailing list needs to set a rule to ensure that everybody follows the same protocol. That is a matter of practical necessity. As has been pointed out already, the published rule for this list is interspersed posting (ie bottom posting, topic by topic in a post). You may not like that - it may be your 'opinion' that that is not the best way. But the list has to have consistency or it just becomes chaotic. You may, of course, feel that your preference, your 'opinion', overrules the need for a functional list. If that is the case, so-be-it - there is little anyone else can do about that. But perhaps you can see why there needs to be a rule? R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] can't logon
ghigg...@woh.rr.com wrote: I have tried repeatedly to log on but can't do it. tried to get password, you say it was was sent to my email but I never got it. so can't log on to try to discover why my documents crash every time I access them. Glenna Higgins What are you trying to log into? You don't need any password to download, install or use OpenOffice.org. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Is there an advantage of buying StarOffice?
Peter Hillier-Brook さんは書きました: On 14/02/2010 09:00, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening Recently, I downloaded and installed OpenOffice 3.2 plus a few extensions. Installation of those extensions took me to the Oracle website, where I learned about Star Office (priced at about 35 USD). Here is the situation: * I make most of our living on translation (freelance, in Japan). * About 99.8% of the companies I work for, send me MS files: Word, Excel, sometimes PowerPoint - and naturally expect to get those MS files back. * Yet, I do NOT like MS and WANT to get away from it. * I have used - not really intensively - OpenOffice in the past. So far, so good. * I have to be able to use English, German (both preferrably including spell checking etc.) and Japanese. * So far, OpenOffice allows me to do that. Now, would there be any advantage of purchasing the commercial version of StarOffice over OpenOffice? I would suggest the following actions: 1 Continue with OpenOffice.org until you find a task it cannot perform. 2 Then research Star Office to establish whether it offers the missing functionality. Until such time, why pay to switch? Peter HB - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org You are right. That makes sense. Thank you. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Is there an advantage of buying StarOffice?
Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: re be any advantage of purchasing the commercial version of StarOffice over OpenOffice? I doubt you'd see much difference with the work you do. OpenOffice.org and StarOffice are essentially the same. You get a few more goodies with StarOffice that aren't included with OOo. The purchase price also includes some support IIRC. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] right spelling
2010/2/13 Kalevi Lehtinen kalevi.lehti...@comhem.se I will like to know how to close funktion ''right spelling'', it's just a nuisance to me Easy enough, Kalevi - on your Writer Toolbar you should see an icon which presents the string «abc» with a red sinus curve (I presume) beneath and below that a green tick. This is the toggle button for automatic spell checking ; you can turn it on or off by clicking it Henri
[users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
On 2010/02/14 7:28 AM Troll/Idiot wrote: Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. You've expressed your opinion (about opinion) in a polite and civil fashion. That's what will keep the list functional. And you continue to not follow the guidelines for this list by once again top posting. Deliberately disregarding the guidelines for the list is what makes the list dis-functional. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
PLEASE, PLEASE, NO MORE E-MAILS-I HAVE UNINSTALLED OPENOFFICE!!! THANK YOU. In a message dated 2/14/2010 8:29:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, poss...@softhome.net writes: Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. You've expressed your opinion (about opinion) in a polite and civil fashion. That's what will keep the list functional. Troll/Idiot Your mother was right. Be polite. On 14-Feb-10 04:57, Richard Travers wrote: In article4b76e311.6040...@softhome.net, Troll/Idiotposs...@softhome.net wrote: On 13-Feb-10 08:52, Programmer In Training wrote: Top-posting: really bad bottom-posting: still bad, but not as bad as top-posting and generally only horrible without proper snipping. Interleaved responses: ideal and best Well, that's a valid opinion. But it is not about 'opinion' is it? It is about practicality. It is about having a functional mailing list that offers useable advice to people with problems. It might be possible for such a list to function with the flow running from bottom to top - i.e. using top posting - (although I really have to say that for someone coming late to a thread where several people have already contributed the procedure of scrolling to the bottom, scrolling up a bit to find the top of the last - i.e. first - post, scrolling down to read it, scrolling back up to find the top of the next contribution, scrolling down to read it, and repeating that up and down for each posting, is a real pain - it may work fine for a simple question plus answer - it does not work for a discussion), or with the flow running from top to bottom (much easier to follow, but that's my opinion, of course). What is NOT functional is a mix of top- and bottom- posting in the same thread. Such a thread quickly becomes unreadable and hence useless. Thus a mailing list needs to set a rule to ensure that everybody follows the same protocol. That is a matter of practical necessity. As has been pointed out already, the published rule for this list is interspersed posting (ie bottom posting, topic by topic in a post). You may not like that - it may be your 'opinion' that that is not the best way. But the list has to have consistency or it just becomes chaotic. You may, of course, feel that your preference, your 'opinion', overrules the need for a functional list. If that is the case, so-be-it - there is little anyone else can do about that. But perhaps you can see why there needs to be a rule? R. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
Bobby, I'm going to break the rules of posting here, since you obviously haven't made it down to the bottom of the messages you reply to. If you had, you would have seen the following two lines: To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org In other words, if you wish to unsubscribe you must send a mail from your own email account to users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org. No-one else can unsubscribe you. It's automatic and simple. And thanks for having been here. Sorry you decided that the OpenOffice suite was not for you. Maybe before you resign you would take the time to tell us why. //James On Feb 14, 2010, at 17:25 , bbobbybo...@aol.com wrote: PLEASE, PLEASE, NO MORE E-MAILS-I HAVE UNINSTALLED OPENOFFICE!!! THANK YOU. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
Troll/Idiot wrote: Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. Troll/Idiot Your mother was right. Be polite. An open letter to Bruce Roorda, There is no value to this thread. It has absolutely nothing to do with Open Office. You may think that sitting on Possum Hill Farm in the boondocks of Missouri gives you the right to post whatever you wish without regard to the list rules but it doesn't. You are an inconsiderate boor and have contributed nothing to the subject of Open Office. PLONK -- Gene Y. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Re: Top posting should be allowed
Hmm, me neither! I may have clicked wrong I suppose, but never intended to respond anywhere but to the group itself. My apologies for the confusion if this arrived at your Inbox. Regards, Twayne` In news:e8ee309c67614315b0531e0070623...@independf54836, BJ Stevens bjstev...@indlife.org typed: I have no idea what this is about. Did you send to wrong address? -- From: Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:21 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Re: Top posting should be allowed In news:19086511.191265969536017.javamail.r...@pim.riffle.be, Linda L. Hull chalced...@riffle.be typed: - Original Message - From: Keith R Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:41:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [users] Top posting should be allowed Good afternoon all, particularly the moderators I have been criticised a few times for top posting on this list. I haven't participated much since the last critic. I started work in 1963. I was told that I just missed out using nibs that you dip into an ink well. My first recollections of keeping records were handwritten notes on plain paper. I progressed to typing and then computerised records. Back to the paper - we wrote down the page (of course). However the pages were filed latest on top. The idea being that when I opened a file I wanted to see the most recent notes to remind me what had happened recently. When I needed to know more history I opened the older pages. When I moved to computerised record keeping this principle has proven better than the concept of scrolling to the bottom of the 'page' to see what happened in my last discussion. I am not alone in this thinking. Some data managers built specially for my work follow this principle. Which leads me to why some dislike top posting. If I am following a long thread the last thing I want to do is page down over the information I have read before. I want to simply read the new bit that some kind person has added. (If I need a reminder of what has gone before, I simply scroll. But if I am interested in the thread this rarely happens.) If a thread becomes complex, answers should be inserted where they are relevant. Surely if I thank somebody for their help, they are entitled to see my thanks quickly. I suspect this will start a flame or two, but I am passionate about this. Comments please. Keith Bainbridge PO Box 324 BELMONT Vic 3216 +61 (0)408 522 706 keithr...@gmail.com I agree. I don't like bottom posting, for the reasons mentioned above, but you had to read all that again, to see my thoughts. chalcedony Linda No: for a proper post, it takes only two keys: CTRL and End. -- -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: OT Re: Top posting should be allowed BORRRRRING!
In news:2b2da125151f45cab0b04f5b54471...@independf54836, BJ Stevens bjstev...@indlife.org typed: I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. DID YOU SEND TO WRONG ADDRESS? -- From: Twayne twa...@twaynesdomain.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:20 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] OT Re: Top posting should be allowed BORING! In news:27e233ac-a3ab-41ef-9050-7a8e8da2f...@gmail.com, Keith R Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com typed: Good afternoon all, particularly the moderators I have been criticised a few times for top posting on this list. I haven't participated much since the last critic. ... Your personal issues aside, IMO it's silly to restart this useless thread which will never come to a conclusion or acceptance by both camps. If you're so sensitive about a little criticism, I respectfully suggest that you learn how to toughen your hide and how to ignore things you don't like reading. If you're unwilling to follow conventions and RFCs and even at least one FYI on the subject, then perhaps you're not right for posting on usenet groups. Forums might better suit you. It's pretty unreasonable to expect the masses to change to YOUR opinion when you've clearly show that you will not change to THEIR opinions. In addition, you haven't even used the convention for indicating an off-topic post, which this definitely is. Check the name of the group against what you wrote: Your post has nothing to do with openoffice questions but is social in nature. All in all it tells me that you have little knowledge of the differences between things like e-mail, groups, forums and many of the conventions and best practices, such as staying on topic and if you can't find a group where you WILL be on topic. If there is no group where your post fits, then consider why that might be so. Common sense will explain most of it to you. Have any opinons you want; that's your right, just as it is mine and everyone else's here. But don't start silly threads with known posts that will result in known off topic arguements, debates and even trolling. It is unlikely in the extreme that anyone is going to offer anything that has not already been posted a gazillion times in various places on the 'net. It is detrimental to the group in general and rude to the point of making you appear as either ignorant or trollish in nature. I'll often feed trolls one time but that's all, so you won't likely have to put up with further posts from me. HTH, Twayne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org No. -- -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: If 3.2 is out, why doesn't my 3.1.1 find it?
In news:20100211210636.1a91e...@mailhost.pdx.edu, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net typed: I have OOo 3.1.1 on Fedora 11 x86_64, installed from OOo, not from the Fedora repositories. (Fedora disables too many things.) I note on openoffice.org that 3.2 is now out and available for download. But when I go to Help Check for Updates it says my 3.1.1 is the latest. No expert here, but I don't think they consider 3.2 an update to anything; it's a new release and taken care of that way, meaning you go and download it and install it as a new program. I don't recall, at least with XP, ever seeing that work as an update. In fact, I don't think I've ever even seen an update occur. HTH, Twayne -- -- Newsgroups are great places to get assistance. But always verify important information with other sources to be certain you have a clear understanding of it and that it is accurate. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Moving lists to 'new' Nabble
Everyone, Nabble have advised that they would like to see the OpenOffice lists that are currently archived at Nabble to be moved to their new platform. I would not expect that there would be disruption to the service offered by Nabble, but that may be something that those who are Nabble uses may like to take up with them. This is just courtesy email to advise that unless someone has a strong objection otherwise that I'll recommend that all the lists (dev, users, discuss) be moved across. For this issue (since it is a little off topic) I'm happy to receive personal responses. Thanks, /paul Users/discuss moderator -- Mike Ditka http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html - If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms.
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
On 14-Feb-10 09:40, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2010/02/14 7:28 AM Troll/Idiot wrote: Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. You've expressed your opinion (about opinion) in a polite and civil fashion. That's what will keep the list functional. And you continue to not follow the guidelines for this list by once again top posting. Deliberately disregarding the guidelines for the list is what makes the list dis-functional. Not in this particular thread, but here's a bottom posted reply. It doesn't make your prolongation of the thread worthwhile, though. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. Personal attacks are worse than (gasp!) top posting. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: Top posting/Bainbridge
On 14-Feb-10 11:47, Gene Young wrote: Troll/Idiot wrote: Nothing has changed, nor is it likely to. You can relax. I don't think the value of this thread to later readers will be decreased by mixed posting. Troll/Idiot Your mother was right. Be polite. An open letter to Bruce Roorda, There is no value to this thread. It has absolutely nothing to do with Open Office. You may think that sitting on Possum Hill Farm in the boondocks of Missouri gives you the right to post whatever you wish without regard to the list rules but it doesn't. You are an inconsiderate boor and have contributed nothing to the subject of Open Office. PLONK -- Gene Y. I think personal attacks may be contrary to list guidelines, and I particularly object to prolonging a thread that will change nothing just to make such an attack. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Moving lists to 'new' Nabble
2010/2/14 Paul paul.m...@gmail.com Everyone, Nabble have advised that they would like to see the OpenOffice lists that are currently archived at Nabble to be moved to their new platform. I would not expect that there would be disruption to the service offered by Nabble, but that may be something that those who are Nabble uses may like to take up with them. This is just courtesy email to advise that unless someone has a strong objection otherwise that I'll recommend that all the lists (dev, users, discuss) be moved across. For this issue (since it is a little off topic) I'm happy to receive personal responses. Thanks, /paul Users/discuss moderator Paul, I suppose I'm OT here, but nice to hear that we have a moderator ! Thanks for the hard work I'm sure you're doing ! Henri PS : Shouldn't that quote read «... given arms only to goalkeepers» ?
Re: [users] Re: Re: Top posting should be allowed
[snip] I suspect this will start a flame or two, but I am passionate about this. Yep - it sure did - on many threads. However this discussion should *NOT* be on 'users' mailing lists. This discussion (and all like it) that are not about the use of OpenOffice should be moved to either disc...@openoffice.org or soc...@openoffice.org. /paul Users/Discuss moderator. -- Joan Crawfordhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joan_crawford.html - I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I earn, I spend.
[users] Re: clip art
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:26:15 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: However, you can always download clip arts. http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Clipart-to-OpenOffice.org When I tried the above in OpenOffice 3.1.1, Writer locked up at the 'Add all' stage (Step 11 of the web site instructions). Having done the 375MB download I extracted the files and gave the New Theme 'Files' function the address of the generated directory (~/Download/openclipart-0.19), and clicked Select. It then generated a long list of the clipart objects, and I then clicked the 'Add All' button. At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up Writer. What is the 'Apply' window for? I did try letting it run for 20 minutes, thinking that perhaps it simply needed a long time to complete, but when I returned, Writer's screen was an empty shell, from which I had to skull-and-crossbones out. What is Add All supposed to be doing at that point? (There was no change in the conents of ~/.ooo3/gallery.) -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 Linux Mandriva 2010.0 32-bit PowerPack (i686 kernel) KDE 4.3.2 Virtualbox 3.1.2 Firefox 3.5.7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: [OT] Top posting should be allowed
Tanstaafl wrote: On 2010-02-12 5:12 AM, Linda L. Hull wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith R Bainbridge keithr...@gmail.com Most people who prefer top-posting do so because they are too lazy to spend a few extra seconds to properly format their replies. Outlook apparently still requires a plugin to quote only selected text in replies/forwards, but it can do it. I could also say that most people who bottom post mindlessly do not snip either. All they do is set to start at bottom and type away thereby forceing people to scroll through sometime pages of stuff they have already read many times before. The main thing is to read the etiquette prefeerences for the list or news group and than comply with them. No matter what you do remember to trim your posts of extraneous material to make it aier on all. Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Unacceptable personal attacks
Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal attacks in the various Top posting threads. I received the message quoted below directly. It is an excellent example of the kind of post I have been protesting. I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is acceptable. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. On 14-Feb-10 14:01, Programmer In Training wrote: On 02/14/10 13:25, Troll/Idiot wrote: On 14-Feb-10 11:47, Gene Young wrote: snip There is no value to this thread. It has absolutely nothing to do with Open Office. You may think that sitting on Possum Hill Farm in the boondocks of Missouri gives you the right to post whatever you wish without regard to the list rules but it doesn't. You are an inconsiderate boor and have contributed nothing to the subject of Open Office. PLONK -- Gene Y. I think personal attacks may be contrary to list guidelines, and I particularly object to prolonging a thread that will change nothing just to make such an attack. Not necessarily a personal attack so much as a statement of opinion about you. Sent off-list to not add to thread since there is nothing more to add. Peace. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Changing bullet symbol to a symbol not on the OOo list of characters
2010/2/14 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 13 February 2010 21:56, Michael Adams mbad...@paradise.net.nz wrote: On Sunday 14 February 2010 08:31, Dotan Cohen wrote: This website has information on unicode characters and what fonts contain the character in question. http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2699/index.htm Not quite. Many fonts don't have all the glyphs mentioned there (the site error on the side of not caution). Also, the Font List tools actually shows glyphs that don't belong to fonts because it also uses a fallback font: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/font/fontlist.htm?text= So far as websites go, the user computer uses fallback fonts to view them as well. This is both in the browser and in the OS also. Exactly, which is why a tool like this won't work. It could tell the user how a particular character when configured for a particular font will look on _his_system_ but it won't tell hi which fonts contain glyphs for it. Is there no way to search fonts for a particular character to see if a glyph exists for it or not? Not that i know of, but if you have FontForge you can open a font and see if your character is there or not. FontForge can be found in one of the standard repositories. Regards Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?
I understand that OOo 3.2 is available. Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and that it runs as well as 3.1? Any problems? One sentence would do. Even a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK. I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER from OO.o. David Teague Flames to /dev/null, please.
Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?
David B Teague wrote: I understand that OOo 3.2 is available. Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and that it runs as well as 3.1? Any problems? One sentence would do. Even a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK. I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER from OO.o. David Teague Flames to /dev/null, please. Just one thing - run as Administrator to install for the Windows install. The site states 3.2 will load twice as fast. Mine loaded 5-10 times as fast as 3.1.1. Everything else works fine for me. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?
On 14-Feb-10 15:22, David B Teague wrote: I understand that OOo 3.2 is available. Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and that it runs as well as 3.1? Any problems? One sentence would do. Even a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK. I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER from OO.o. David Teague Flames to /dev/null, please. Just installed it today - install was painless, recent file list was intact, 32MB Writer document loaded quickly, scrolls fairly smoothly through its 347 pages. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?
2010/2/14 David B Teague davidbtea...@verizon.net: I understand that OOo 3.2 is available. Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like it, and that it runs as well as 3.1? Any problems? One sentence would do. Even a URL to an OO.o users' forum would be OK. I have had some particularly bad luck in upgrades recently though NEVER from OO.o. I installed it on Ubuntu 9.10 a few days ago. Works fine, at least as fine as the 3.1 version. I like the two new cell functions UNICODE() ad UNICHAR(). I have missed those in the past and now they are finally available, and I didn't even ask for them… Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] OO 2.4 WRITER DEBIAN LENNY
Hello, I am new on this list. I have been using OO for ages now and I am very pleased with i on the whole. More than anything, with the former version, OO 2.1, which went with Etch in Linux-Debian. It was wonderful, fast, and had a lot of useful characteristics. I upgraded Debian to Lenny (I had to, because of Flash) and it was not possible (though I tried) to keep OpenOffice 2.1. Now I have the version 2.4 and find the following irritating changes: (1) The worst of them is that the Spanish keyboard very easily stops writing the Spanish accent (á, é) and the Spanish ñ, for no apparent reason. This can be fixed by pressing Format and then Sign, just that. I go back to the text and the accents are there again. But two minutes later I must repeat the whole procedure, because they have disappeared again. A real nuisance. WHY, or WHEN precisely they dissapear, I haven't found out yet. (2) And then it is a pity, that the icon von Save does not fade anymore when a file has been already saved. That was a useful, lovely feature of OO 2.1. Is is gone now, it stays unchanged when you save the file, so you never know any more whether the file needs saving again or not. (3) Another useful item was the fact, that when a file was saved and closed, and then reopened, OO opened the file AT THE SAME PAGE where it was closed before. Now it is opened always at the beginning, which means that I have to look up the place I left the file every time anew. I would be very grateful for help here. There doesn't seem to be a Spanish mailing-list (I couldn't find one on the site), so I write to this one. Raúl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks
On 02/14/10 15:16, Troll/Idiot wrote: Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal attacks in the various Top posting threads. I received the message Really? I am? I don't see any personal attack at all. I merely said the other person was expressing an opinion of you and not necessarily attacking you. How is that a personal attack? quoted below directly. It is an excellent example of the kind of post I have been protesting. Yes, you have been protesting it by inviting it upon yourself. Very nice method. My apologies for attacking you and degrading myself by stooping so low. I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is acceptable. snip I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself. Peace. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks
On 14-Feb-10 15:44, Programmer In Training wrote: On 02/14/10 15:16, Troll/Idiot wrote: Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal attacks in the various Top posting threads. I received the message Really? I am? I don't see any personal attack at all. I merely said the other person was expressing an opinion of you and not necessarily attacking you. How is that a personal attack? quoted below directly. It is an excellent example of the kind of post I have been protesting. Yes, you have been protesting it by inviting it upon yourself. Very nice method. My apologies for attacking you and degrading myself by stooping so low. I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is acceptable. snip I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself. Peace. Yet another. You don't seem to be able to resist. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: clip art
- Original Message - From: Maurice Batey maur...@bcs.org.uk To: users@openoffice.org Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:20 PM Subject: [users] Re: clip art On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:26:15 +0100, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: However, you can always download clip arts. http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Clipart-to-OpenOffice.org When I tried the above in OpenOffice 3.1.1, Writer locked up at the 'Add all' stage (Step 11 of the web site instructions). Having done the 375MB download I extracted the files and gave the New Theme 'Files' function the address of the generated directory (~/Download/openclipart-0.19), and clicked Select. It then generated a long list of the clipart objects, and I then clicked the 'Add All' button. At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up Writer. What is the 'Apply' window for? I did try letting it run for 20 minutes, thinking that perhaps it simply needed a long time to complete, but when I returned, Writer's screen was an empty shell, from which I had to skull-and-crossbones out. What is Add All supposed to be doing at that point? (There was no change in the conents of ~/.ooo3/gallery.) -- /\/\aurice (Retired in Surrey, UK) Registered Linux User #487649 Linux Mandriva 2010.0 32-bit PowerPack (i686 kernel) KDE 4.3.2 Virtualbox 3.1.2 Firefox 3.5.7 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OOo 3.2 available Do you like it?
On 2/14/2010 4:22 PM, David B Teague wrote: ... Would someone please give a very brief statement that you like [OO.o 3.2], and that it runs as well as 3.1? ... Many thanks to Johnny, Troll/Idiot and Web Kracked for their positive and useful responses to this question. I'll fetch and install 3.2. I'm running XP SP3 so I'm already Administrator. --DBT - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: clip art
On 02/14/10 14:20, Maurice Batey wrote: snip At this point a small window headed 'Apply' opened, but it was incomplete, and would not respond to mouse clicks. It also locked up Writer. snip What speed processor? How much RAM? I'm adding it just fine on my nearly 7 year old box running FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE (2.4GHz PIV, 1.5GB RAM). -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[users] Re: UNINSTALLING OPENOFFICE VERSION 3.1.0
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:06:49 -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: f you checked the headers you could deduce that he is using MS Windows. X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 I keep seeing references to this ability to tell if the user is subscribed and/or what OS is being used. I can't see this stuff; what am I doing wrong? I read my mail via NNTP [gmane] using pan. Where should I be looking? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] Re: UNINSTALLING OPENOFFICE VERSION 3.1.0
On 02/14/10 18:05, Mark C. Miller wrote: On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:06:49 -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: f you checked the headers you could deduce that he is using MS Windows. X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 I keep seeing references to this ability to tell if the user is subscribed and/or what OS is being used. I can't see this stuff; what am I doing wrong? I read my mail via NNTP [gmane] using pan. Where should I be looking? There should be an option in pan (if I'm remembering correctly, I used to use pan quite a bit back when I started using Linux) to view all headers. -- Yours In Christ, PIT Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[users] Re: UNINSTALLING OPENOFFICE VERSION 3.1.0
On 2010/02/14 6:05 PM Mark C. Miller wrote: I keep seeing references to this ability to tell if the user is subscribed and/or what OS is being used. I can't see this stuff; what am I doing wrong? I read my mail via NNTP [gmane] using pan. Where should I be looking? I use Thunderbird to read this lists via NNTP [gmane]. I either use 'view all headers' or 'view source' to see all the message headers. I do not know pan so you can figure out the equivilant. All messages will have the header Delivered-To: mailing list users@openoffice.org Unsubscribed posters will also have the header Delivered-To: moderator for users@openoffice.org Your message has the header User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies). Messages posted through gmane have the header X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/;. -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Selecting footnotes
I have OOo 3.1.1 installed on Fedora 11 x86_64. The version I have was downloaded from OOo, not installed from the Fedora repositories. When I create a document with footnotes I can select the footnote text, but only one footnote at a time. I can change the document to endnotes, and the footnotes then all appear at the end, but I can still select only one footnote text at a time. In order to copy and paste text into other programs (e.g., Scribus) I need to be able to select and copy all the footnotes at once. Most programs cannot import OOo footnotes, but if I can get them in by copying and pasting I can make do. However, having to copy and paste one at a time is painful. Is there some way to select all the footnote texts at once? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
[users] Re: Making a newly installed OOo 3.2 the default over OOo 3.1 in Ubuntu
On 02/14/2010 04:48 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
2010/2/14 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
On 02/13/2010 08:46 PM, NoOp wrote:
On 02/13/2010 12:15 AM, M Henri Day wrote:
2010/2/13 NoOp ...
Then you didn't actually uninstall 3.1, or you didn't install 3.2.
Please provide details on *exactly* what and how you installed.
Here below, NoOp, the gory details :
1) Downloaded «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz»
package to my Downloads directory.
2) Opened the Synaptic package manager and uninstalled v 3.2.0rc4.
3) Extacted the contents
of «OOo_3.2.0rc5_20100203_LinuxX86-64_install_sv_deb.tar.gz» to a folder
called «OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483» in my home directory.
4) Opened a terminal, cd-ed into
../OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483/DEBS
5) Installed the Debs files via «sudo dpkg -i *.deb».
After checking to see that the new installation was up and running, I
went
back to Synaptic and uninstalled all the «ooobasis-dev3.1...» files
found
there. Despite this, as noted above, both .odt and .doc files open in
OOo
3.1, as do .pps files. In addition to the
«OOO320_m12_native_packed-1_sv.9483»
folder mentioned above, the earlier «OOO310_m11_native_packed-3_sv.9399»
folder still is found in my home directory ; would removing the latter
resolve the problem ?...
A few points:
1. You don't need to uninstall (U)OOo, it will reside nicely
side-by-side with standard OOo. There is a trick to this though... you
need to modify the (S)OOo file to to use an alternate profile to the
(U)OOo. This is what I do:
- First set write permissions on /opt/openoffice.org3/bootstraprc
$ sudo chmod +w /opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc
- Modify that file to:
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
Correction:
- Modify that file *from*:
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
to
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
NoOp, thanks for your detailed reply ! My write-protected
«/opt/openoffice.org3/program/bootstraprc» file looked like this :
[Bootstrap]
BaseInstallation=${OOO_BASE_DIR}
InstallMode=installmode
ProductKey=OpenOffice.org 3.2
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3
[ErrorReport]
ErrorReportPort=80
ErrorReportServer=report.services.openoffice.org
I tried to use the «chmod» command you suggested above, but for some strange
reason, I couldn't get the «+w» option to take, so I decided to run «sudo
chmod 777 /opt/openoffice.org3/program/
bootstraprc» instead - an elephant gun to shoot mosquitoes, perhaps, but it
worked. When I open the file, I now see «UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.
openoffice.org/3/3».
quote
Correction:
- Modify that file *from*:
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org/3'
to
'UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.openoffice.org3/3'
/quote
However, despite this change, when I click an .odt or a
.doc file, it still opens in Writer in OOo 3.1 ! A piece of information
which may or not be useful in this context is that the command which opens
OOo 3.2 is «/opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice». Hope you can suggest a
way out - I can work around the problem easily enough, by first opening OOo
3.2 and then opening my files from within Writer, but it irritates me that I
can't change the default
Perhaps you missed the part about setting your defaults in Nautilus?
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Re: [users] Unacceptable personal attacks
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 03:50:43PM -0600, Troll/Idiot wrote: On 14-Feb-10 15:44, Programmer In Training wrote: On 02/14/10 15:16, Troll/Idiot wrote: Programmer In Training is attempting to continue the string of personal attacks in the various Top posting threads. I received the message Really? I am? I don't see any personal attack at all. I merely said the other person was expressing an opinion of you and not necessarily attacking you. How is that a personal attack? quoted below directly. It is an excellent example of the kind of post I have been protesting. Yes, you have been protesting it by inviting it upon yourself. Very nice method. My apologies for attacking you and degrading myself by stooping so low. I hope there is no one who will argue that this sort of thing is acceptable. snip I do not find ad hominem attacks acceptable at all, and strive not to engage in such. My only real apology is that you thought my private missive to you was such an attack. I should have known better than to reason with someone who would invite such attack upon himself. Peace. Yet another. You don't seem to be able to resist. I've stayed out of this, but.If you see a personal attack in what you've quoted I would conclude you could use some prfessional help. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
