Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Patrick Graham patr...@gandatech.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:34 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Barbara Duprey wrote: I get the error with this file, too, so we should probably open an issue on it unless somebody who's familiar with XML can see what's wrong. Anybody? Thomas Steel wrote: I have suddenly remembered that you suggested I might send a copy of the unopenable file. Here it is. Thanks, TS Content.xml is corrupt. I was able to recover it by deleting Sheet3 from the file. Not sure if it is 100% clean xml but it now opens for me using OOo3.2 on Windows7. It should be attached to this email. PatrickG Patrick: Huge thanks. What a splendid surprise to wake up to! No chance to work on it until tonight, but quick thanks vital---to all who have helped with this issue. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 3:07 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thank you, Barbara ( others) for all your help. It's been a ghastly week, but I'm pleased to report data recovered all working normally. Plus, I now know what bottom posting is! Over out. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Patrick Graham patr...@gandatech.com Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:34 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Barbara Duprey wrote: Content.xml is corrupt. I was able to recover it by deleting Sheet3 from the file. Not sure if it is 100% clean xml but it now opens for me using OOo3.2 on Windows7. It should be attached to this email. PatrickG Patrick: Thanks again. Data recovered all working normally. Just one more question before I leave you in peace. Did your work on my file give you any clue as to what had gone wrong whether there's anything I should do to avoid it in the future? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 5/15/2010 1:57 PM, Thomas Steel wrote: Patrick: Thanks again. Data recovered all working normally. Just one more question before I leave you in peace. Did your work on my file give you any clue as to what had gone wrong whether there's anything I should do to avoid it in the future? TS Glad you were able to get things back. I really have no clue what caused the corruption. It appears as if it was something that was on Sheet 3 but can't know for sure. Take Care, Patrick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:37 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Your original question got bogged down in all this, but we had sorted out some of the issues -- like what was meant by sub-documents, and the fact that there appeared to be a corruption somewhere in your installation (but not in the file itself) because you got the same format error in sub-document content.xml trying to open your backup copies. The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. By 're-downloadthe installation files', do you mean 're-install'? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 2010-05-14 7:32 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. By 're-downloadthe installation files', do you mean 're-install'? TS No. You cannot 'reinstall' until you first remedy the problem of the missing installation files - unless you do still have the original installer .exe file. By 'redownload', I mean, go to http://download.openoffice.org/, redownload the installer for the version of openoffice you have installed (I thin it was 3.2, right?). In order to perform a repair install, you wuold then need to extract the installation files to some location where you can *keep* them (dbl-clicking on the downloaded installer file will first extract the files). But, actually, I do believe that if you just go ahead and run the installer as if your were installing it for the first time, it will detect the current installation and prompt you to repair it, so that might be easier for you... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:37 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Your original question got bogged down in all this, but we had sorted out some of the issues -- like what was meant by sub-documents, and the fact that there appeared to be a corruption somewhere in your installation (but not in the file itself) because you got the same format error in sub-document content.xml trying to open your backup copies. The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Nope, I saw it -- here's my response from 5/10: It sounds as if you've deleted the installation files, or they're someplace Windows can't currently get to. If they're still around, you can browse to the right folder from that dialog, or use Start, and specify setup.exe in the Search box to see if it finds such a file associated with OOo (and if so, run it). Otherwise, you'll need to either download OOo again, or find the downloaded file from before, and double-click it again. After the files have been unpacked, the setup.exe program should start again, and you'll end up in the installation dialogs and you'll be able to install or repair. Since there's a reference in the message to a network resource, it may be that your files unpacked to a network device that you need special permission to access; you can make sure that they unpack onto your desktop or some other accessible location this time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:41 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 7:32 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. By 're-downloadthe installation files', do you mean 're-install'? TS No. You cannot 'reinstall' until you first remedy the problem of the missing installation files - unless you do still have the original installer .exe file. By 'redownload', I mean, go to http://download.openoffice.org/, redownload the installer for the version of openoffice you have installed (I thin it was 3.2, right?). In order to perform a repair install, you wuold then need to extract the installation files to some location where you can *keep* them (dbl-clicking on the downloaded installer file will first extract the files). But, actually, I do believe that if you just go ahead and run the installer as if your were installing it for the first time, it will detect the current installation and prompt you to repair it, so that might be easier for you... I am now desperate. I have done what you suggest. It gave no prompt just installed. Now I find that my newer completely reworked version of the original file (with a different name) will not open (giving the same error message as before). What on earth can I do? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:47 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:37 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Your original question got bogged down in all this, but we had sorted out some of the issues -- like what was meant by sub-documents, and the fact that there appeared to be a corruption somewhere in your installation (but not in the file itself) because you got the same format error in sub-document content.xml trying to open your backup copies. The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Nope, I saw it -- here's my response from 5/10: It sounds as if you've deleted the installation files, or they're someplace Windows can't currently get to. If they're still around, you can browse to the right folder from that dialog, or use Start, and specify setup.exe in the Search box to see if it finds such a file associated with OOo (and if so, run it). Otherwise, you'll need to either download OOo again, or find the downloaded file from before, and double-click it again. After the files have been unpacked, the setup.exe program should start again, and you'll end up in the installation dialogs and you'll be able to install or repair. Since there's a reference in the message to a network resource, it may be that your files unpacked to a network device that you need special permission to access; you can make sure that they unpack onto your desktop or some other accessible location this time. I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 5/14/2010 9:19 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS You downloaded an installation package to your desktop. Did you run it after you downloaded it? If not, double click the file on your desk top and follow the directions. -- Gene Young - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:41 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 7:32 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. By 're-downloadthe installation files', do you mean 're-install'? TS No. You cannot 'reinstall' until you first remedy the problem of the missing installation files - unless you do still have the original installer .exe file. By 'redownload', I mean, go to http://download.openoffice.org/, redownload the installer for the version of openoffice you have installed (I thin it was 3.2, right?). In order to perform a repair install, you wuold then need to extract the installation files to some location where you can *keep* them (dbl-clicking on the downloaded installer file will first extract the files). But, actually, I do believe that if you just go ahead and run the installer as if your were installing it for the first time, it will detect the current installation and prompt you to repair it, so that might be easier for you... Please try to help me. I find that re-installing has made all my files---all---everything---unopenable. I am completely desperate. What can I do? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:29 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 5/14/2010 9:19 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS You downloaded an installation package to your desktop. Did you run it after you downloaded it? If not, double click the file on your desk top and follow the directions. -- Gene Young I don't know what you mean by 'Run after downloading', so I probably didn't. When I double click the file on the desk-top it doesn't mention 'Run', but offers 2 'set up' options. I've used 'Repair' without success. The other one relates to modifying different parts of OOo. What should I do? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Just to report that I find that I have 2 OOo 3.2 icons on the desktop that I was double-clicking the orange one. I find that double-clicking the blue one gives an option 'Run as Administrator': this brings me to the normal introductory page of OOo with an option to 'Open a file'. I can now get through to my current files that way--a huge relief. None of my shortcuts work, but I suppose I have to create new ones. I am such a state after this morning's marathon nightmare, that I'm to shut down go out for an hour or two. TS -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:47 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:37 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Your original question got bogged down in all this, but we had sorted out some of the issues -- like what was meant by sub-documents, and the fact that there appeared to be a corruption somewhere in your installation (but not in the file itself) because you got the same format error in sub-document content.xml trying to open your backup copies. The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Nope, I saw it -- here's my response from 5/10: It sounds as if you've deleted the installation files, or they're someplace Windows can't currently get to. If they're still around, you can browse to the right folder from that dialog, or use Start, and specify setup.exe in the Search box to see if it finds such a file associated with OOo (and if so, run it). Otherwise, you'll need to either download OOo again, or find the downloaded file from before, and double-click it again. After the files have been unpacked, the setup.exe program should start again, and you'll end up in the installation dialogs and you'll be able to install or repair. Since there's a reference in the message to a network resource, it may be that your files unpacked to a network device that you need special permission to access; you can make sure that they unpack onto your desktop or some other accessible location this time. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Before I attempt the uninstall you recommend, can you assure me that it won't delete my files? And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:41 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 7:32 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:18 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel On 2010-05-14 4:13 AM, Thomas Steel wrote: Dear Barbara: Thank you for yours. You seem to have missed my reply to you on 10 May under 'Incomprehensible Error Message'. You had given me a simple sequence, ending 'Click Repair'. I followed the sequence, but on clicking Repair, got: 'The feature you are trying to use is on a network resource that is unavailable' then 'Enter an alternate path to a folder containing the installation package in the box below' then 'The installation source for this package is not available. Verify that the source exists and that you can access it'. None of that made any sense to me I said: 'My cause seems hopeless (or is there a way through that?). TS Hi Thomas, I'm not Barbara, but she did in fact respond to this, with: The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet? The error message you received when you tried to 'Repair' the installation indicates that your original installation source files are gone, so you will need to re-download the Openoffice installation files, and when that error appears, navigate to the location of the recently downloaded/unzipped installation files, to allow the repair install to continue. Also, as you can now see, in the future, it is not a good idea to delete those files. By 're-downloadthe installation files', do you mean 're-install'? TS No. You cannot 'reinstall' until you first remedy the problem of the missing installation files - unless you do still have the original installer .exe file. By 'redownload', I mean, go to http://download.openoffice.org/, redownload the installer for the version of openoffice you have installed (I thin it was 3.2, right?). In order to perform a repair install, you wuold then need to extract the installation files to some location where you can *keep* them (dbl-clicking on the downloaded installer file will first extract the files). But, actually, I do believe that if you just go ahead and run the installer as if your were installing it for the first time, it will detect the current installation and prompt you to repair it, so that might be easier for you... I still wonder whether I have indeed 'run' the installer. I clicked the only mention of 'run' I could find (which was 'run as administrator' in the blue desktop icon). I couldn't see that it did anything. The 'installation files' are in a buff folder icon on the desktop, but I can't see anything like running. Have I missed something vital? TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Thank you. It has worked! Sadly amidst all the desperate experiments at solutions this week, I seem to have completely lost the unopenable file which caused my appeal for help in the first place.. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Thomas Steel wrote: From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Before I attempt the uninstall you recommend, can you assure me that it won't delete my files? The files you create with OOo are not affected by any uninstall/reinstall actions unless you have purposely stored them in the same folders as the programs themselves -- and this would never happen unless you forced it. The files you create are either in My Documents or in a folder you specify when you save (for example one that you have created for a particular project, person, or type of file). You could only get into trouble if you purposely changed the default path for file saving, or explicitly saved, to a folder created by OOo for its own use. And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? I think what you're describing here is that the Windows file associations for the filetypes are not set to let it automatically find a program to execute when you double-click a file's icon -- either that, or the files were saved without an extension, such as .ods for an ODF spreadsheet (you should always make sure that the option to automatically save the extension is selected). Make sure the files you are trying to open have their extensions, then right click on one of them Choose Open With, and browse under Program Files to the right OOo program (e.g., swriter.exe for .doc, .docx, or .odt files). Select the option to always use this program for this kind of file. You should only have to do this once for each extension. (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS Yes, apparently something got seriously damaged somehow -- wish we knew what caused the problem! Anyway, hopefully you'll be OK now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
-- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:00 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Before I attempt the uninstall you recommend, can you assure me that it won't delete my files? The files you create with OOo are not affected by any uninstall/reinstall actions unless you have purposely stored them in the same folders as the programs themselves -- and this would never happen unless you forced it. The files you create are either in My Documents or in a folder you specify when you save (for example one that you have created for a particular project, person, or type of file). You could only get into trouble if you purposely changed the default path for file saving, or explicitly saved, to a folder created by OOo for its own use. And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? I think what you're describing here is that the Windows file associations for the filetypes are not set to let it automatically find a program to execute when you double-click a file's icon -- either that, or the files were saved without an extension, such as .ods for an ODF spreadsheet (you should always make sure that the option to automatically save the extension is selected). Make sure the files you are trying to open have their extensions, then right click on one of them Choose Open With, and browse under Program Files to the right OOo program (e.g., swriter.exe for .doc, .docx, or .odt files). Select the option to always use this program for this kind of file. You should only have to do this once for each extension. (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS Yes, apparently something got seriously damaged somehow -- wish we knew what caused the problem! Anyway, hopefully you'll be OK now. Well, I don't know about OK. I can now find a roundabout way of opening all my files, except the one which was the problem in the first place. It's hardly progress! I do wonder whether OOo is simply too complex for me. TS - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
I have suddenly remembered that you suggested I might send a copy of the unopenable file. Here it is. Thanks, TS -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:00 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Before I attempt the uninstall you recommend, can you assure me that it won't delete my files? The files you create with OOo are not affected by any uninstall/reinstall actions unless you have purposely stored them in the same folders as the programs themselves -- and this would never happen unless you forced it. The files you create are either in My Documents or in a folder you specify when you save (for example one that you have created for a particular project, person, or type of file). You could only get into trouble if you purposely changed the default path for file saving, or explicitly saved, to a folder created by OOo for its own use. And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? I think what you're describing here is that the Windows file associations for the filetypes are not set to let it automatically find a program to execute when you double-click a file's icon -- either that, or the files were saved without an extension, such as .ods for an ODF spreadsheet (you should always make sure that the option to automatically save the extension is selected). Make sure the files you are trying to open have their extensions, then right click on one of them Choose Open With, and browse under Program Files to the right OOo program (e.g., swriter.exe for .doc, .docx, or .odt files). Select the option to always use this program for this kind of file. You should only have to do this once for each extension. (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS Yes, apparently something got seriously damaged somehow -- wish we knew what caused the problem! Anyway, hopefully you'll be OK now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org WEEKLY BUDGET 2010-2011.ods Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
I get the error with this file, too, so we should probably open an issue on it unless somebody who's familiar with XML can see what's wrong. Anybody? Thomas Steel wrote: I have suddenly remembered that you suggested I might send a copy of the unopenable file. Here it is. Thanks, TS -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:00 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip I am now frantic. If I type 'setup.exe' in the Search box, it just gives me a list of e-mails to or from this help-site. I did re-install OOo it is on my desktop. But the only result of re-downloading has been to make the later version of my affected file unopenable in just the same way. TS It sounds as if you're using your e-mail program's search, not the one that comes from the Start menu. In any case, your best bet now is probably to completely uninstall OOo; apparently something that is retained across a reinstall is causing the problem, though it doesn't sound like a user profile issue (the most common cause of such difficulties). Leave the downloaded file on your desktop (or wherever), make sure there is no soffice.bin process running, and go through the Start Control Panel, Programs-Uninstall a program, and find OpenOffice.org. This time, select the Uninstall button. If the unpacked installation files are still there after that uninstall completes, delete them -- I think they should have been found and deleted, but I'm not making assumptions at this point! Same for any OOo folders in Program Files or your Startup menu. You might also want to use a registry cleanup package like CCleaner (www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download) to remove any other lingering traces, if any exist. After the uninstall has been completed, restart your system, then use the downloaded file again to install a completely clean copy. If that doesn't work, I'm stumped. You can send us a small example file that gives you the problem (ODF attachments generally make it to the list, or you can put it on a website and tell us where it is). If it has the same problem for somebody else, we can generate an issue in the problem tracking system to get the developers involved in the analysis. Before I attempt the uninstall you recommend, can you assure me that it won't delete my files? The files you create with OOo are not affected by any uninstall/reinstall actions unless you have purposely stored them in the same folders as the programs themselves -- and this would never happen unless you forced it. The files you create are either in My Documents or in a folder you specify when you save (for example one that you have created for a particular project, person, or type of file). You could only get into trouble if you purposely changed the default path for file saving, or explicitly saved, to a folder created by OOo for its own use. And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? I think what you're describing here is that the Windows file associations for the filetypes are not set to let it automatically find a program to execute when you double-click a file's icon -- either that, or the files were saved without an extension, such as .ods for an ODF spreadsheet (you should always make sure that the option to automatically save the extension is selected). Make sure the files you are trying to open have their extensions, then right click on one of them Choose Open With, and browse under Program Files to the right OOo program (e.g., swriter.exe for .doc, .docx, or .odt files). Select the option to always use this program for this kind of file. You should only have to do this once for each extension. (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS Yes, apparently something got seriously damaged somehow -- wish we knew what caused the problem! Anyway, hopefully you'll be OK now. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Thomas Steel wrote: -- From: Barbara Duprey b...@onr.com Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 9:00 PM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel Thomas Steel wrote: snip And can you explain why I can open files if I go via the blue desktop icon then 'Open a file', but I can't open anything either thro the desktop shortcuts or through the Windows document library? I think what you're describing here is that the Windows file associations for the filetypes are not set to let it automatically find a program to execute when you double-click a file's icon -- either that, or the files were saved without an extension, such as .ods for an ODF spreadsheet (you should always make sure that the option to automatically save the extension is selected). Make sure the files you are trying to open have their extensions, then right click on one of them Choose Open With, and browse under Program Files to the right OOo program (e.g., swriter.exe for .doc, .docx, or .odt files). Select the option to always use this program for this kind of file. You should only have to do this once for each extension. (This of course is a new problem following my reinstall attempt). This is a new computer (replacing a stolen one): it uses Windows 7, which is new to me. Obviously I did a new installation of OOo when I began it seemed to work OK until last weekend's sudden blockage of a file. TS Yes, apparently something got seriously damaged somehow -- wish we knew what caused the problem! Anyway, hopefully you'll be OK now. Well, I don't know about OK. I can now find a roundabout way of opening all my files, except the one which was the problem in the first place. It's hardly progress! I do wonder whether OOo is simply too complex for me. TS Have you done the steps above about setting file associations? If so, all you should have to do is double-click a file to open it -- nothing roundabout there, once all the extensions have been set up once. If you couldn't figure that out, let's continue this off-list. (It's an operating system function, really nothing to do with OOo.) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Barbara Duprey wrote: I get the error with this file, too, so we should probably open an issue on it unless somebody who's familiar with XML can see what's wrong. Anybody? Thomas Steel wrote: I have suddenly remembered that you suggested I might send a copy of the unopenable file. Here it is. Thanks, TS Content.xml is corrupt. I was able to recover it by deleting Sheet3 from the file. Not sure if it is 100% clean xml but it now opens for me using OOo3.2 on Windows7. It should be attached to this email. PatrickG WEEKLY BUDGET recovered.ods Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.spreadsheet - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Patrick Graham wrote: Barbara Duprey wrote: I get the error with this file, too, so we should probably open an issue on it unless somebody who's familiar with XML can see what's wrong. Anybody? Thomas Steel wrote: I have suddenly remembered that you suggested I might send a copy of the unopenable file. Here it is. Thanks, TS Content.xml is corrupt. I was able to recover it by deleting Sheet3 from the file. Not sure if it is 100% clean xml but it now opens for me using OOo3.2 on Windows7. It should be attached to this email. PatrickG Thanks, Patrick! Thomas said his backup files had the same problem, so maybe there's something about that sheet? Hard to put together a sequence that lets him successfully create a backup, but then has the backups and the original corrupted and unable to be opened, though. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 10 May 2010 07:23, Thomas Steel t.st...@virgin.net wrote:
I apologise. I don't know what 'bottom posting' 'top posting' mean.
Harold Fuchs wrote:
Bottom posting is placing your text below (at the bottom of) the text
to
which you are replying. Top posting is placing your text above (on top
of)
the text to which you are replying. There is a religious war about the
sanctity of the one and the total ungodliness of the other. Please don't
ask
why.
Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating
that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species
of primate :-)
Brewster
See what I mean?
--
Harold Fuchs
London, England
Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
I'm sorry that I accidentally triggered off so much more heat than light by
my innocent response when rebuked for 'top posting'. Sadly my original
urgent request for help ('Incomprehensible error message') has got buried
under all this I have got nowhere. Any hope there?
May I make a gentle constructive suggestion? Some of us 'undiscovered
species of primates' turn to this site for help in difficulties which are
obviously irritatingly elementary to many of the users, for whom the site is
clearly a forum for highly advanced enthusiasts. It doesn't seem to me the
best combination. Could there not be a separate help site for those like me
who try and try, but find computer language very hard to master---and beg
from time to time for simple abc directions? Distractedly, TS
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Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 13-May-10 01:15, Thomas Steel wrote:
I'm sorry that I accidentally triggered off so much more heat than
light by my innocent response when rebuked for 'top posting'. Sadly my
original urgent request for help ('Incomprehensible error message')
has got buried under all this I have got nowhere. Any hope there?
May I make a gentle constructive suggestion? Some of us
'undiscovered species of primates' turn to this site for help in
difficulties which are obviously irritatingly elementary to many of
the users, for whom the site is clearly a forum for highly advanced
enthusiasts. It doesn't seem to me the best combination. Could there
not be a separate help site for those like me who try and try, but
find computer language very hard to master---and beg from time to time
for simple abc directions? Distractedly, TS
You'll find most of the folks here are quite willing to help and not
dogmatic about posting style. There are a few who are otherwise; every
now and then they emerge in a pack to abuse unwary newcomers. After a
while they turn on each other and return to their trees to ponder the
strange primates that walk on the ground.
Troll/Idiot
Have a nice day.
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Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
Thomas Steel wrote:
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I'm sorry that I accidentally triggered off so much more heat than
light by my innocent response when rebuked for 'top posting'. Sadly my
original urgent request for help ('Incomprehensible error message')
has got buried under all this I have got nowhere. Any hope there?
May I make a gentle constructive suggestion? Some of us
'undiscovered species of primates' turn to this site for help in
difficulties which are obviously irritatingly elementary to many of
the users, for whom the site is clearly a forum for highly advanced
enthusiasts. It doesn't seem to me the best combination. Could there
not be a separate help site for those like me who try and try, but
find computer language very hard to master---and beg from time to time
for simple abc directions? Distractedly, TS
Sorry, Thomas -- my original comment about the top posting was in no way
intended as a rebuke, simply information to a newbie (not yet
subscribed to the list at that point). That particular post was partly
top and partly bottom before I responded, which is why I mentioned it at
all. Your original question got bogged down in all this, but we had
sorted out some of the issues -- like what was meant by sub-documents,
and the fact that there appeared to be a corruption somewhere in your
installation (but not in the file itself) because you got the same
format error in sub-document content.xml trying to open your backup
copies. The last I know of, you'd gotten information about how to find
or recreate your OOo installation files, and try a reinstall/repair on
your Windows 7/OOo 32. system. Has that gotten you anywhere? Have you
been able to create and later edit another spreadsheet?
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Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 10May2010, at 18:32 , Brewster Gillett wrote: Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species of primate :-) Good morning and thank you I Have often wondered why I feel different. Now I know, I am part of the leadership of an advanced species. And yes it is morning - I am on my way to work this Wednesday morning. Keith Bainbridge PO Box 324 BELMONT Vic 3216 +61 (0)408 522 706 kei...@akrb.name - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 10 May 2010 07:23, Thomas Steel t.st...@virgin.net wrote: I apologise. I don't know what 'bottom posting' 'top posting' mean. If this is a 'top post', perhaps for a 'bottom post' it is possible to type a reply at the end of all this script. I will try that now. Please let me know if that doesn't work. TS snip Harold Fuchs wrote: Bottom posting is placing your text below (at the bottom of) the text to which you are replying. Top posting is placing your text above (on top of) the text to which you are replying. There is a religious war about the sanctity of the one and the total ungodliness of the other. Please don't ask why. The third way is to intersperse your comments within the text, with each comment immediately below the text to which it relates. Some people believe this is the Only True Way. It would take skills far beyond those ever dreamed of by George Mitchell http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8659894.stmto resolve this issue. bg: This is hardly rocket science. Posts are more easily and conveniently absorbed by the reader when they are arranged in their chronological order, oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. This is irrespective of whether they consist of multiple interspersions or not. Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species of primate :-) Brewster -- *** Embrace a sharing community of sustainable justice low-carbon diversity *** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA *** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. *** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 10 May 2010 09:32, Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.us wrote: On 10 May 2010 07:23, Thomas Steel t.st...@virgin.net wrote: I apologise. I don't know what 'bottom posting' 'top posting' mean. If this is a 'top post', perhaps for a 'bottom post' it is possible to type a reply at the end of all this script. I will try that now. Please let me know if that doesn't work. TS snip Harold Fuchs wrote: Bottom posting is placing your text below (at the bottom of) the text to which you are replying. Top posting is placing your text above (on top of) the text to which you are replying. There is a religious war about the sanctity of the one and the total ungodliness of the other. Please don't ask why. The third way is to intersperse your comments within the text, with each comment immediately below the text to which it relates. Some people believe this is the Only True Way. It would take skills far beyond those ever dreamed of by George Mitchell http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8659894.stmto resolve this issue. bg: This is hardly rocket science. Posts are more easily and conveniently absorbed by the reader when they are arranged in their chronological order, oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. This is irrespective of whether they consist of multiple interspersions or not. Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species of primate :-) Brewster See what I mean? -- Harold Fuchs London, England Please reply *only* to users@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 10-May-10 03:32, Brewster Gillett wrote: On 10 May 2010 07:23, Thomas Steelt.st...@virgin.net wrote: I apologise. I don't know what 'bottom posting' 'top posting' mean. If this is a 'top post', perhaps for a 'bottom post' it is possible to type a reply at the end of all this script. I will try that now. Please let me know if that doesn't work. TS snip Harold Fuchs wrote: Bottom posting is placing your text below (at the bottom of) the text to which you are replying. Top posting is placing your text above (on top of) the text to which you are replying. There is a religious war about the sanctity of the one and the total ungodliness of the other. Please don't ask why. The third way is to intersperse your comments within the text, with each comment immediately below the text to which it relates. Some people believe this is the Only True Way. It would take skills far beyond those ever dreamed of by George Mitchell http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8659894.stmto resolve this issue. bg: This is hardly rocket science. Posts are more easily and conveniently absorbed by the reader when they are arranged in their chronological order, oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. This is irrespective of whether they consist of multiple interspersions or not. Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species of primate :-) Brewster Better ask for forgiveness before assuming it's granted. Troll/Idiot Have a nice day. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
Re: [users] OT: What is Bottom Posting?/TSteel
On 2010-05-10 4:42 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: On 10 May 2010 09:32, Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.us wrote: bg: This is hardly rocket science. Posts are more easily and conveniently absorbed by the reader when they are arranged in their chronological order, oldest at the top, newest at the bottom. This is irrespective of whether they consist of multiple interspersions or not. Those of us who understand this may be forgiven for speculating that those who don't belong to some hitherto undiscovered species of primate :-) Brewster See what I mean? And even worse is 'bottom-posting'+'blindly quoting the entire message'+'inserting your reply such that it appears as part of the text you are quoting, rather than as a standalone reply, as you did here Harold. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.org
