Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Hi Debian Squeeze 64 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Debian Squeeze 32 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit OS and 64 bit Tbird and Plugins. Windows XP Pro 32 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. I'm missing something fundamental then - it should surely work for me too! 1) Turn off message synchronizing. 2) Uncheck Enable Global Search and Indexer. Yeah - I do the same. Have you tried to attach GDB to the process and get a backtrace? I'll try this suggestion. Thanks Vik -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Il 06/01/2011 17:05, Stuart Sheldon ha scritto: I currently have Thunderbird 3.1.7 working with the three Inverse plugins under the following environments: Debian Squeeze 64 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Debian Squeeze 32 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit OS and 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit OS and 64 bit Tbird and Plugins. Windows XP Pro 32 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS 32 bit TBird and Plugins. I have not noticed any performance issues with these systems. I do however disable some features that became default in the '3' series. These features are: 1) Turn off message synchronizing. 2) Uncheck Enable Global Search and Indexer. Thanks for the tips, i can't understand mozilla developers choice. If you want a better product, you probably want more in your bug reports then just 'Lightning is crappy'. This is not only unproductive, but a bit insulting. i endorse anything One thing I'm missing for SOGo is a document explaining the different ways we can extract debug and logging information out of the system. The interaction between Thunderbird/Lightning and SOGo is complex and it would be usefull to have some pointers on what logs to create, how to run TB in some debug mode etc. This would be cool... For me too. -- Alessio Fattorini (alessio.fattor...@nethesis.it) nethesis srl - Via degli Olmi 16/4 - 61100 Pesaro (PU) tel. +39 0721 405516 - fax +39 0721 268147 www.nethesis.it - i...@nethesis.it -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/05/2011 07:17 PM, vikt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 11/18/2010 05:12 PM, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: Well... It could seem like a lame response, but all our free work is provided without warranty. We cannot afford that (and nobody can)... I still think we do a pretty good job at fixing issues. Sometimes they are just not easy to narrow down because of contextual problems. But bugs that we fix rarely get reopened. Totally agree with you - this is really great work - and it's free - you cannot knock that! I too however have tried periodically to get thunderbird 3.1 + lightning (both the mozilla and inverse versions) to work since their respective releases. But face the same issue every time I try (have posted here before). When lightning tries to sync the calendar I get 100% CPU utilisation and basically a completely unusable thunderbird. The only solution I have found is to roll back to thunderbird 3.0.x - being on linux you can imagine the hassle involved in keeping an old version when my packages keep updating. Does anyone have a work around for this? I would really like to be running 3.1. Have you tried to attach GDB to the process and get a backtrace? One thing I'm missing for SOGo is a document explaining the different ways we can extract debug and logging information out of the system. The interaction between Thunderbird/Lightning and SOGo is complex and it would be usefull to have some pointers on what logs to create, how to run TB in some debug mode etc. Does anyone have some pointers? Regards, T Thanks Vik - -- Tarjei Huse Mobil: 920 63 413 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk0lbnAACgkQYVRKCnSvzfJe/ACeORIQlgL0JL4R6Rbbk216E8ft xy8AnR+HV0F5Ni4Qz3bWaTiEl5NPBENr =FJT0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Just for your information: In case you delete Calendars in SOGo but do not remove these calendars in Lightning (1.0b2) it will loop forever. Lightning does not accept the 404 (not found) issued and reloads and reloads and reloads - resulting in 100% CPU from sogod. I used iptables with --hit-rate to drop requests in such cases. -- Pascal Gienger Jabber/XMPP/Mail: pascal.gien...@uni-konstanz.de University of Konstanz, IT Services Department (Rechenzentrum) Electronic Communications and Web Services Building V, Room V404, Phone +49 7531 88 5048, Fax +49 7531 88 3739 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Le 18 nov. 2010 à 09:51, André Schild a écrit : Am 18.11.2010 09:42, schrieb Pascal Gienger: Just for your information: In case you delete Calendars in SOGo but do not remove these calendars in Lightning (1.0b2) it will loop forever. Lightning does not accept the 404 (not found) issued and reloads and reloads and reloads - resulting in 100% CPU from sogod. I used iptables with --hit-rate to drop requests in such cases. Filling a bugreport at http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/my_view_page.php helps in most cases ;) This is not a SOGo bug. SOGo behaves correctly ;-) I'll try to reproduce this here and I'll file a bug for Lightning (I am using the normal lightning, not the inverse edition). Pascal-- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Hi Pascal, I'll try to reproduce this here and I'll file a bug for Lightning (I am using the normal lightning, not the inverse edition). You like taking risks! We do offer our version of Lightning because of this kind of bug, why don't you use it instead ? Cheers! -- Wolfgang Sourdeau :: +1 (514) 447-4918 ext. 125 :: wsourd...@inverse.ca Inverse inc. Leaders behind SOGo (sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
We do offer our version of Lightning because of this kind of bug, why don't you use it instead ? Ok, when I used to use the standard version from Mozilla, deinstall it and then install the inverse one - does it use my former configured calenders? Of course, why not? -- Wolfgang Sourdeau :: +1 (514) 447-4918 ext. 125 :: wsourd...@inverse.ca Inverse inc. Leaders behind SOGo (sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Am Donnerstag, 18. November 2010 15:48 CET, Wolfgang Sourdeau wsourd...@inverse.ca schrieb: Hi Pascal, I'll try to reproduce this here and I'll file a bug for Lightning (I am using the normal lightning, not the inverse edition). You like taking risks! We do offer our version of Lightning because of this kind of bug, why don't you use it instead ? Simple. Because I cannot control the installation of our 12,000 users ;-) Many of them have lightning installed and I want to be prepared for this kind of things... -- Pascal Gienger Jabber/XMPP/Mail: pascal.gien...@uni-konstanz.de University of Konstanz, IT Services Department (Rechenzentrum) Electronic Communications and Web Services Building V, Room V404, Phone +49 7531 88 5048, Fax +49 7531 88 3739 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
My 2¢: On 18.11.2010 15:48, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: We do offer our version of Lightning because of this kind of bug, why don't you use it instead ? Because it is even less usable then the nightlies of the regular Lightning distribution. We need a working solution, not the mess that the sogo lightning produces. Since I stopped bothering with the Sogo Lightning I can actually work again with the calender from TB instead of having to to use the web interface and doing everything manually. cheers afx -- atsec information security GmbH, Steinstrasse 70, D-81667 München, Germany Phone: +49-89-44249830 / Fax: +49-89-44249831 / Web: atsec.com HRB: 129439 (Amtsgericht München) / Geschäftsführer: Salvatore la Pietra, Staffan Persson -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Le 2010-11-18 11:18, Andreas Siegert a écrit : My 2¢: On 18.11.2010 15:48, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: We do offer our version of Lightning because of this kind of bug, why don't you use it instead ? Because it is even less usable then the nightlies of the regular Lightning distribution. We need a working solution, not the mess that the sogo lightning produces. That's rough! What problem have you experienced with it? Why didn't you report them in our BTS ? -- Wolfgang Sourdeau :: +1 (514) 447-4918 ext. 125 :: wsourd...@inverse.ca Inverse inc. Leaders behind SOGo (sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
On 18.11.2010 17:31, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: We need a working solution, not the mess that the sogo lightning produces. That's rough! What problem have you experienced with it? Why didn't you report them in our BTS ? Because it seems that things that are reported do not get fixed or things are listed as fixed which are not (there where others that reported the same problems, so no need for me to report them). I just got tired of getting the latest builds that where supposed to fix problems but did not. Or the need of installing additional extensions that brought in more trouble and needed hacking of the XPI files but did not fix anything for my usage. I don't care about address books and all fancy stuff but only need a *working* calender interface to Sogo where I can select which calender gets used for invitations I receive, where I can modify entries that I received to turn off silly alarms, where I can accept invitations without the need to save ICS files manually and calender entries that will not generate errors when I sync them via Funambol and Synthesis to my phone. In the end, path of least effort. cheers afx -- atsec information security GmbH, Steinstrasse 70, D-81667 München, Germany Phone: +49-89-44249830 / Fax: +49-89-44249831 / Web: atsec.com HRB: 129439 (Amtsgericht München) / Geschäftsführer: Salvatore la Pietra, Staffan Persson -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Le 2010-11-18 11:57, Pascal Gienger a écrit : Am 18.11.10 16:21, schrieb Pascal Gienger: Many of them have lightning installed and I want to be prepared for this kind of things... I forgot something: With SOGo Lightning I often have the problem that I doubleclick on a calendar entry do get the details but the window won't open. Do you get an exception in the javascript console when this happens? At least this works here with the normal Lightning without a problem. I don't understand the different paradigma of Lightning. Look at Apple iCal. It will ask for all available calendars and delegations and will include them automatically. Why can't Lightning do that? Why you have to enter each Calender with is corresponding CalDAL URL? You could get all these URLs simply by doing the right PROPFIND on the Calendar root. Funny enough, Lightning DOES recurse the URL to /SOGo/dav/, requesting a PROPFIND at every stage - but it does not see to use informations from there. I presume it looks for an CalDAV Inbox and Outbox. That's the way lightning works. We know it's quite limited but changing that would require a lot of changes and probably endless discussions with the Lightning team... Instead, the list of folders (both calendars and addressbooks) is automatically replicated at startup when using SOGo Integrator. One of the advantages of SOGo Integrator is to never require the entering of a DAV url from the users... Cheers, -- Wolfgang Sourdeau :: +1 (514) 447-4918 ext. 125 :: wsourd...@inverse.ca Inverse inc. Leaders behind SOGo (sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Lightning is crappy...
Le 2010-11-18 11:50, Andreas Siegert a écrit : On 18.11.2010 17:31, Wolfgang Sourdeau wrote: We need a working solution, not the mess that the sogo lightning produces. That's rough! What problem have you experienced with it? Why didn't you report them in our BTS ? Because it seems that things that are reported do not get fixed or things are listed as fixed which are not (there where others that reported the same problems, so no need for me to report them). I just got tired of getting the latest builds that where supposed to fix problems but did not. Well... It could seem like a lame response, but all our free work is provided without warranty. We cannot afford that (and nobody can)... I still think we do a pretty good job at fixing issues. Sometimes they are just not easy to narrow down because of contextual problems. But bugs that we fix rarely get reopened. Cheers, -- Wolfgang Sourdeau :: +1 (514) 447-4918 ext. 125 :: wsourd...@inverse.ca Inverse inc. Leaders behind SOGo (sogo.nu) and PacketFence (www.packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
