Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
On 2014-01-18 2:45 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: You stated your mail server is different than your SOGo server and both are running as virtual machines. SOGo is not a mail server. It would seem logical to point your mailboxes to the mail server. I agree it seems logical, but my point is the documentations doesn't say one way or another. I may be a bit anal about these kinds of things, but I dislike ambiguity in technical documentation. It should state precisely how to set up your accounts. That said, we don't have a working setup yet, so it may become painfully obvious once we get that far. However, if your calendars are on the SOGo server, those URLs would reference the SOGo server. I hope you are correct and this is indeed how it will work (mail clients only talking to SOGo server for Calendar/Contacts syncing). -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
Pursuant to the documentation found here: http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Installation%20Guide.pdf Pg. 6 [PDF 8] Assumptions SOGo reuses many components in an infrastructure. Thus, it requires the following : ❏ Database server (MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle) ❏ LDAP server (OpenLDAP, Novell eDirectory, Microsoft Active Directory and others) ❏ SMTP server (Postfix, Sendmail and others) ❏ IMAP server (Courier, Cyrus IMAP Server, Dovecot and others) In this guide, we assume that all those components are running on the same server (i.e., “localhost” or “127.0.0.1”) that SOGo will be installed on. Documentation assumes the various components are all running on the same server. Pg. 50 [PDF 52] Mozilla Thunderbird and Lightning Alternatively, you can access SOGo with a GroupDAV and a CalDAV client. A typical well- integrated setup is to use Mozilla Thunderbird and Mozilla Lightning along with Inverse's SOGo Connector plug in to synchronize your address books and the Inverse's SOGo Integrator plug in to provide a complete integration of the features of SOGo into Thunderbird and Lightning. Refer to the documentation of Thunderbird to configure an initial IMAP account pointing to your SOGo server and using the user name and password mentioned above. With the SOGo Integrator plug in, your calendars and address books will be automatically discovered when you login in Thunderbird. This plug in can also propagate specific extensions and default user settings among your site. However, be aware that in order to use the SOGo Intergrator plug in, you will need to repackage it with specific modifications. Obviously, IF your SOGo server is not hosting the IMAP account, it must be pointed elsewhere. And, just as obviously, the SOGo Intergrator will discover the calendars and address books. On 01/20/2014 08:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-18 2:45 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: You stated your mail server is different than your SOGo server and both are running as virtual machines. SOGo is not a mail server. It would seem logical to point your mailboxes to the mail server. I agree it seems logical, but my point is the documentations doesn't say one way or another. I may be a bit anal about these kinds of things, but I dislike ambiguity in technical documentation. It should state precisely how to set up your accounts. That said, we don't have a working setup yet, so it may become painfully obvious once we get that far. However, if your calendars are on the SOGo server, those URLs would reference the SOGo server. I hope you are correct and this is indeed how it will work (mail clients only talking to SOGo server for Calendar/Contacts syncing). -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
On 2014-01-20 16:19, Steve Ankeny wrote: Pursuant to the documentation found here: http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Installation%20Guide.pdf Pg. 6 [PDF 8] Assumptions SOGo reuses many components in an infrastructure. Thus, it requires the following : ❏ Database server (MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle) ❏ LDAP server (OpenLDAP, Novell eDirectory, Microsoft Active Directory and others) ❏ SMTP server (Postfix, Sendmail and others) ❏ IMAP server (Courier, Cyrus IMAP Server, Dovecot and others) To elaborate: Thunderbird needs to know the following servers: • SMTP server (can be provided via Thunderbird's autoconfig mechanism) • IMAP server (same) • (cal|card)DAV server (provided via sogo Integrator) Thunderbird CAN use the following services in addition: • SOGo XPI update server (Integrator, hardcoded to DAV server) • LDAP address book server (provided by: ?) In this guide, we assume that all those components are running on the same server (i.e., “localhost” or “127.0.0.1”) that SOGo will be installed on. Documentation assumes the various components are all running on the same server. Pg. 50 [PDF 52] Mozilla Thunderbird and Lightning Alternatively, you can access SOGo with a GroupDAV and a CalDAV client. A typical well- integrated setup is to use Mozilla Thunderbird and Mozilla Lightning along with Inverse's SOGo Connector plug in to synchronize your address books and the Inverse's SOGo Integrator plug in to provide a complete integration of the features of SOGo into Thunderbird and Lightning. Refer to the documentation of Thunderbird to configure an initial IMAP account pointing to your SOGo server and using the user name and password mentioned above. With the SOGo Integrator plug in, your calendars and address books will be automatically discovered when you login in Thunderbird. This plug in can also propagate specific extensions and default user settings among your site. However, be aware that in order to use the SOGo Intergrator plug in, you will need to repackage it with specific modifications. Obviously, IF your SOGo server is not hosting the IMAP account, it must be pointed elsewhere. And, just as obviously, the SOGo Intergrator will discover the calendars and address books. On 01/20/2014 08:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-18 2:45 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: You stated your mail server is different than your SOGo server and both are running as virtual machines. SOGo is not a mail server. It would seem logical to point your mailboxes to the mail server. I agree it seems logical, but my point is the documentations doesn't say one way or another. I may be a bit anal about these kinds of things, but I dislike ambiguity in technical documentation. It should state precisely how to set up your accounts. That said, we don't have a working setup yet, so it may become painfully obvious once we get that far. However, if your calendars are on the SOGo server, those URLs would reference the SOGo server. I hope you are correct and this is indeed how it will work (mail clients only talking to SOGo server for Calendar/Contacts syncing). -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven Schwedas Systemadministrator TAO Beratungs- und Management GmbH | Lendplatz 45 | A - 8020 Graz Mail/XMPP: sven.schwe...@tao.at | +43 (0)680 301 7167 http://software.tao.at signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
Thus my question. So, based on this, if we elect to use the Integrator, then ALL SMTP and IMAP traffic will have to go THROUGH the SOGo server. This will be VERY inefficient for our 60+ users in the office. I can definitely understand adding these details into the SERVER config, for when users are accessing the WEB interface to work with their email. But why force all of this traffic through one pipe for fat clients as well? What is gained by this? What does SOGo 'do' with respect to the actual emails that benefits Thunderbird *other* than the Calendars and Contacts? On 2014-01-20 10:19 AM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: Pursuant to the documentation found here: http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Installation%20Guide.pdf Pg. 6 [PDF 8] Assumptions SOGo reuses many components in an infrastructure. Thus, it requires the following : ❏ Database server (MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle) ❏ LDAP server (OpenLDAP, Novell eDirectory, Microsoft Active Directory and others) ❏ SMTP server (Postfix, Sendmail and others) ❏ IMAP server (Courier, Cyrus IMAP Server, Dovecot and others) In this guide, we assume that all those components are running on the same server (i.e., “localhost” or “127.0.0.1”) that SOGo will be installed on. Documentation assumes the various components are all running on the same server. Pg. 50 [PDF 52] Mozilla Thunderbird and Lightning Alternatively, you can access SOGo with a GroupDAV and a CalDAV client. A typical well- integrated setup is to use Mozilla Thunderbird and Mozilla Lightning along with Inverse's SOGo Connector plug in to synchronize your address books and the Inverse's SOGo Integrator plug in to provide a complete integration of the features of SOGo into Thunderbird and Lightning. Refer to the documentation of Thunderbird to configure an initial IMAP account pointing to your SOGo server and using the user name and password mentioned above. With the SOGo Integrator plug in, your calendars and address books will be automatically discovered when you login in Thunderbird. This plug in can also propagate specific extensions and default user settings among your site. However, be aware that in order to use the SOGo Intergrator plug in, you will need to repackage it with specific modifications. Obviously, IF your SOGo server is not hosting the IMAP account, it must be pointed elsewhere. And, just as obviously, the SOGo Intergrator will discover the calendars and address books. On 01/20/2014 08:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-18 2:45 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: You stated your mail server is different than your SOGo server and both are running as virtual machines. SOGo is not a mail server. It would seem logical to point your mailboxes to the mail server. I agree it seems logical, but my point is the documentations doesn't say one way or another. I may be a bit anal about these kinds of things, but I dislike ambiguity in technical documentation. It should state precisely how to set up your accounts. That said, we don't have a working setup yet, so it may become painfully obvious once we get that far. However, if your calendars are on the SOGo server, those URLs would reference the SOGo server. I hope you are correct and this is indeed how it will work (mail clients only talking to SOGo server for Calendar/Contacts syncing). -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
Hello, Am 20.01.2014 16:44, schrieb Tanstaafl: Thus my question. So, based on this, if we elect to use the Integrator, then ALL SMTP and IMAP traffic will have to go THROUGH the SOGo server. No, you can directly connect IMAP+SMTP to your existing mail server. There is no reason to route it via SOGo. But the SOGO server has to have access to your mailserver if you wish to use the webinterface of in future the activesync ond native Outlook connectivity. André -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
Title: signaturehtmlsteve If you look in the guides for both sogo and outlook integration you will see that it gives the path to the calendars and such. If you get the stuff installed into thunderbird you can then manually go enter the calendars and access them without pointing all the mail to sogo. You just simply don't have autoconfigure working. I have a dovecot proxy working to map user ids via samba/active directory and once that is completed the calendar then will work in thunderbird. The configuration for ldap and email in sogo only pertains to the web interface and not to your email settings unless you configure it to be that way. Play with it using a single account until you have it working like you want. I have used calendar and mapped the email directly to my servers and it does work. You're right all the docs are very ambiguous and should include suggestions on all the different configurations that could be accomplished using sogo in many different environments. The original intent of sogo was to add calendar/task/contacts in a web format not be an email do all be all. Steve On 1/20/2014 9:44 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Thus my question. So, based on this, if we elect to use the Integrator, then ALL SMTP and IMAP traffic will have to go THROUGH the SOGo server. This will be VERY inefficient for our 60+ users in the office. I can definitely understand adding these details into the SERVER config, for when users are accessing the WEB interface to work with their email. But why force all of this traffic through one pipe for fat clients as well? What is gained by this? What does SOGo 'do' with respect to the actual emails that benefits Thunderbird *other* than the Calendars and Contacts? On 2014-01-20 10:19 AM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: Pursuant to the documentation found here: http://www.sogo.nu/files/docs/SOGo%20Installation%20Guide.pdf Pg. 6 [PDF 8] Assumptions SOGo reuses many components in an infrastructure. Thus, it requires the following : ❏ Database server (MySQL, PostgreSQL or Oracle) ❏ LDAP server (OpenLDAP, Novell eDirectory, Microsoft Active Directory and others) ❏ SMTP server (Postfix, Sendmail and others) ❏ IMAP server (Courier, Cyrus IMAP Server, Dovecot and others) In this guide, we assume that all those components are running on the same server (i.e., “localhost” or “127.0.0.1”) that SOGo will be installed on. Documentation "assumes" the various components are all running on the same server. Pg. 50 [PDF 52] Mozilla Thunderbird and Lightning Alternatively, you can access SOGo with a GroupDAV and a CalDAV client. A typical well- integrated setup is to use Mozilla Thunderbird and Mozilla Lightning along with Inverse's SOGo Connector plug in to synchronize your address books and the Inverse's SOGo Integrator plug in to provide a complete integration of the features of SOGo into Thunderbird and Lightning. Refer to the documentation of Thunderbird to configure an initial IMAP account pointing to your SOGo server and using the user name and password mentioned above. With the SOGo Integrator plug in, your calendars and address books will be automatically discovered when you login in Thunderbird. This plug in can also propagate specific extensions and default user settings among your site. However, be aware that in order to use the SOGo Intergrator plug in, you will need to repackage it with specific modifications. Obviously, IF your SOGo server is not hosting the IMAP account, it must be pointed elsewhere. And, just as obviously, the SOGo Intergrator will discover the calendars and address books. On 01/20/2014 08:26 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-18 2:45 PM, Steve Ankeny stev...@cinergymetro.net wrote: You stated your mail
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
That's not what's happening ... see Sven's response To elaborate: Thunderbird needs to know the following servers: • SMTP server (can be provided via Thunderbird's autoconfig mechanism) • IMAP server (same) • (cal|card)DAV server (provided via sogo Integrator) Thunderbird CAN use the following services in addition: • SOGo XPI update server (Integrator, hardcoded to DAV server) • LDAP address book server (provided by: ?) IF you place these on separate servers, Thunderbird can autoconfig them. SOGo does not serve up IMAP accounts (thus, my comments about pointing TB to the IMAP server) However, SOGo does serve up XPI extensions via its update server, and it can host calendars and address books (or at least provide pointers to them from within the Web insterface) On 01/20/2014 10:44 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Thus my question. So, based on this, if we elect to use the Integrator, then ALL SMTP and IMAP traffic will have to go THROUGH the SOGo server. This will be VERY inefficient for our 60+ users in the office. I can definitely understand adding these details into the SERVER config, for when users are accessing the WEB interface to work with their email. But why force all of this traffic through one pipe for fat clients as well? -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
On 2014-01-20 12:18 PM, André Schild an...@schild.ws wrote: Hello, Am 20.01.2014 16:44, schrieb Tanstaafl: Thus my question. So, based on this, if we elect to use the Integrator, then ALL SMTP and IMAP traffic will have to go THROUGH the SOGo server. No, you can directly connect IMAP+SMTP to your existing mail server. There is no reason to route it via SOGo. But the SOGO server has to have access to your mailserver if you wish to use the webinterface of in future the activesync ond native Outlook connectivity. Ok, very good, thanks for clearing that up Steve, Steve and Andre... :) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
You stated your mail server is different than your SOGo server and both are running as virtual machines. SOGo is not a mail server. It would seem logical to point your mailboxes to the mail server. However, if your calendars are on the SOGo server, those URLs would reference the SOGo server. On 01/18/2014 09:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2014-01-17 11:24 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: When I set up the 'first' email account - do I point the inbound/outbound mail server settings directly to the mail server, just like we do now, then follow the instructions when modifying the Integrator to point it to SOGo? Or do I point these to the SOGo server too? Ummm... anyone? It seems to me to be a fairly simple question. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Configuring Thunderbird+Integrator
On 2014-01-17 11:24 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: When I set up the 'first' email account - do I point the inbound/outbound mail server settings directly to the mail server, just like we do now, then follow the instructions when modifying the Integrator to point it to SOGo? Or do I point these to the SOGo server too? Ummm... anyone? It seems to me to be a fairly simple question. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
