RE: How to discard spam mails
I am using SA as a Front end server. It has no real email boxes on it. Maybe sitewide is not the proper name for this config... But, anyway... my understanding is that Procmail must call a real mailbox in order to work. Since I have no real mailboxes on the SA server (and don't want any since it passes email to exchange), I could not find any way to make Procmail work in my config as I have described. I searched all over the internet, read the Procmail docs, tried some experimenting, posted to this list, and that was my conclusion at the time. > -Original Message- > From: Clay Irving [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:48 AM > To: Greg Allen > Cc: jdow; users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:10:37AM -0400, Greg Allen wrote: > > > I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it > does not work > > on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks > like, using > > Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks... > > Why not? I use both sitewide. > > -- > Clay Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It is a sobering thought, for example, that when Mozart was my age, he had > been dead for two years. > - Tom Lehrer > >
Re: How to discard spam mails
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:10:37AM -0400, Greg Allen wrote: > I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not work > on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks like, using > Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks... Why not? I use both sitewide. -- Clay Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is a sobering thought, for example, that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years. - Tom Lehrer
RE: How to discard spam mails
Hi,
> I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not
> work on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks
> like, using Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks...
Umm! Works fine for me here... Might not have worked the way you
wanted it to, but it works fine site wide with SA for me.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:31 AM
> > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails
> >
> >
> > Procmail is not all that big. If it's overhead is too much for you
> > then something is seriously wrong there. SpamAssassin's overhead is
> > VASTLY more than procmail's. {^_^} - Original Message -
> > From: "Greg Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IMO. For
> > production,
> > > I already have to maintain latest SA releases and Postfix
> > releases, and I
> > > know these programs very well. I would rather not put another
> > > complex layer that requires updates and seperate config over top
> > > of SA
> > if I don't
> > > have to. I will try the Spamass-Milter first. Just trying to keep
> > > it simple if possible. Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Have you looked at MailScanner? It integrates nicely with
> > >> SpamAssassin and your favorite MTA (sendmail / postfix / exim /
> > >> zmailer)
> > and can also
> > >> call a virus scanner. You can set SA score thresholds and
> > >> delete, forward, quarantine, mark, or just pass emails based on
> > >> score. You can also block or quarantine email based on
> > >> attachment filenames or file types (this feature can block new
> > >> viruses before the AV vendors
> > react) and do a
> > >> ton of other useful stuff.
> > >>
> > >> There are other mail handlers like Amavisd-new which might
> > also have the
> > >> functionality you want.
> > >>
> > >> Pierre Thomson
> > >> BIC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Greg Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>
> > >> I find this one issue just about the most annoying
> > 'non-feature' of SA. I
> > >> have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I
> > >> don't want the overhead and problems of a huge milter program
> > >> laying in
> > front of SA
> > >> just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple
> > >> stupid.
> > >>
> > >> I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so
> > >> simple for someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but
> > >> I could
> > be totally
> > >> wrong also about that.
> > >>
> > >> Do you have any links to a how-to for the ? Or does it have
> > >> good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is
> > >> relatively easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have
> > >> spent
> > days looking
> > >> for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing...
> > >> kill spam over 15 points. :--(
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the
> > >>> Spamass-Milter successfully to block emails that rate at or
> > >>> above the required_hits level (now named required_score).
> > >>>
> > >>> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
--
Anthony Peacock
CHIME, Royal Free & University College Medical School
WWW:http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk/~rmhiajp/
I'm in shape. - ROUND is a shape.
RE: How to discard spam mails
I tried Procmail for several days, in the end I found that it does not work
on a sitewide SA. But I did get a resolution on this, it looks like, using
Postfix header_checks. See my email last night. Thanks...
> -Original Message-
> From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:31 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails
>
>
> Procmail is not all that big. If it's overhead is too much for you then
> something is seriously wrong there. SpamAssassin's overhead is VASTLY
> more than procmail's.
> {^_^}
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IMO. For
> production,
> > I already have to maintain latest SA releases and Postfix
> releases, and I
> > know these programs very well. I would rather not put another complex
> > layer that requires updates and seperate config over top of SA
> if I don't
> > have to. I will try the Spamass-Milter first. Just trying to keep it
> > simple if possible. Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >> Have you looked at MailScanner? It integrates nicely with SpamAssassin
> >> and your favorite MTA (sendmail / postfix / exim / zmailer)
> and can also
> >> call a virus scanner. You can set SA score thresholds and delete,
> >> forward, quarantine, mark, or just pass emails based on score. You can
> >> also block or quarantine email based on attachment filenames or file
> >> types
> >> (this feature can block new viruses before the AV vendors
> react) and do a
> >> ton of other useful stuff.
> >>
> >> There are other mail handlers like Amavisd-new which might
> also have the
> >> functionality you want.
> >>
> >> Pierre Thomson
> >> BIC
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Greg Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> I find this one issue just about the most annoying
> 'non-feature' of SA. I
> >> have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't
> >> want
> >> the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in
> front of SA
> >> just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid.
> >>
> >> I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple
> >> for
> >> someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could
> be totally
> >> wrong also about that.
> >>
> >> Do you have any links to a how-to for the ? Or does it have
> >> good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively
> >> easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent
> days looking
> >> for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam
> >> over 15 points. :--(
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter
> >>> successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits
> >>> level (now named required_score).
> >>>
> >>> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>
>
>
Re: How to discard spam mails
Procmail is not all that big. If it's overhead is too much for you then
something is seriously wrong there. SpamAssassin's overhead is VASTLY
more than procmail's.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IMO. For production,
I already have to maintain latest SA releases and Postfix releases, and I
know these programs very well. I would rather not put another complex
layer that requires updates and seperate config over top of SA if I don't
have to. I will try the Spamass-Milter first. Just trying to keep it
simple if possible. Thanks
Have you looked at MailScanner? It integrates nicely with SpamAssassin
and your favorite MTA (sendmail / postfix / exim / zmailer) and can also
call a virus scanner. You can set SA score thresholds and delete,
forward, quarantine, mark, or just pass emails based on score. You can
also block or quarantine email based on attachment filenames or file
types
(this feature can block new viruses before the AV vendors react) and do a
ton of other useful stuff.
There are other mail handlers like Amavisd-new which might also have the
functionality you want.
Pierre Thomson
BIC
-Original Message-
From: Greg Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I
have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't
want
the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA
just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid.
I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple
for
someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could be totally
wrong also about that.
Do you have any links to a how-to for the ? Or does it have
good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively
easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent days looking
for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam
over 15 points. :--(
Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter
successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits
level (now named required_score).
Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-)
Re: How to discard spam mails
> I have a motive for my madness. I installed the Clamav plugin for postfix > and it works great. Only problem with it is that it can not dump viruses, > it only tags them with a score. So, I want to tell SA to score any message > tagged by Clamav for a score of 100 (or whatever) Then, when I dump high > scores over 15, 20 or whatever..., I will be deleting the virus emails at > the same time as the high ranking spam. This is trivial to do as a three step process identical to what you described. It just requires three different tools for the three steps, one of which might be your mail delivery agent: 1.Clamav scans a mail and sticks a 'virus found' header in. 2.SA scans the mail, and you have a rule looking for that header and assigning points. 3.Something scans the headers, sees the SA score, and redirects the spam to /dev/nul. Loren
RE: How to discard spam mails
You the man! My high score Spam and my Clamav Viruses are now gone, gone,
gone. And no milter/scanner front end software added! Now that is a good
deal.
Excellent!
So far so good. Just tested and worked like a charm. This is the way to go
with sitewide config IMO. No darn milter or scanner even needed thanks to
your fix. I messed with this for days. :-)
I found the below rule on the net and used it in header_checks. Seems to do
the trick.
/^X-Spam-Level: (\*){25,}/ REDIRECT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you Stuart!!!
> -Original Message-
> From: Stuart Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 5:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails
>
>
> Greg Allen wrote:
> > I have a motive for my madness. I installed the Clamav plugin
> for postfix
> > and it works great. Only problem with it is that it can not
> dump viruses,
> > it only tags them with a score. So, I want to tell SA to score
> any message
> > tagged by Clamav for a score of 100 (or whatever) Then, when I dump high
> > scores over 15, 20 or whatever..., I will be deleting the virus
> emails at
> > the same time as the high ranking spam.
> >
>
> What version of Postfix are you using? What method of integration are
> you using for SA and Clamav?
>
> You might be able to use the built-in content inspection of Postfix.
> Something like:
>
> In /etc/postfix/main.cf:
> header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/spamheadercheck
>
> In /etc/postfix/spamheadercheck:
> /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ REJECT
>
>
RE: How to discard spam mails
> What version of Postfix are you using? I am using the latest version 2.2 of Postfix > What method of integration are > you using for SA and Clamav? SA is called similar to this. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedSpamdInPostfix Clamav is called like this. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ClamAVPlugin > You might be able to use the built-in content inspection of Postfix. > Something like: > > In /etc/postfix/main.cf: > header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/spamheadercheck > > In /etc/postfix/spamheadercheck: > /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ REJECT Or in my case, something like: /^X-Spam-Level: / REJECT I am not clear as to exactly when email is injected into SA from Postfix and then when it is re-injected back into Postfix. Are you saying that Postfix header_checks are done AFTER Postfix sends the email to SA and AFTER SA is done testing the email and not BEFORE Postfix sends the email to SA for spam testing? I had thought that Postfix did all content inspection before sending to SA. If Postfix header_checks is done after SA, that would be great and may be a perfect solution because no additional software layers would be required.
RE: How to discard spam mails
On 23 Aug 2005 at 15:20, Greg Allen wrote: > Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IMO. For production, > I already have to maintain latest SA releases and Postfix releases, and I > know these programs very well. I would rather not put another complex > layer that requires updates and seperate config over top of SA if I don't > have to. I will try the Spamass-Milter first. Just trying to keep it > simple if possible. Thanks Unfortunately, the milter protocol is a Sendmail feature which hasn't yet been implemented by other MTAs. Nels Lindquist <*> Information Systems Manager Morningstar Air Express Inc.
Re: How to discard spam mails
Greg Allen wrote: I have a motive for my madness. I installed the Clamav plugin for postfix and it works great. Only problem with it is that it can not dump viruses, it only tags them with a score. So, I want to tell SA to score any message tagged by Clamav for a score of 100 (or whatever) Then, when I dump high scores over 15, 20 or whatever..., I will be deleting the virus emails at the same time as the high ranking spam. What version of Postfix are you using? What method of integration are you using for SA and Clamav? You might be able to use the built-in content inspection of Postfix. Something like: In /etc/postfix/main.cf: header_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/spamheadercheck In /etc/postfix/spamheadercheck: /^X-Spam-Status: Yes/ REJECT
Re: How to discard spam mails
I have a motive for my madness. I installed the Clamav plugin for postfix and it works great. Only problem with it is that it can not dump viruses, it only tags them with a score. So, I want to tell SA to score any message tagged by Clamav for a score of 100 (or whatever) Then, when I dump high scores over 15, 20 or whatever..., I will be deleting the virus emails at the same time as the high ranking spam. > Then just let SA accomplish its mission of simply marking your email for > you. Or from the wiki, "a mail filter to identify Spam." What you do with > it after that has always been your business. > > Besides, every once in a while I still get a message scoring over 15 from > one of my kids ;-) > > There are web interfaces for user configuration of procamil, etc. like > Usermin. > > Ed Kasky > ~ > Randomly Generated Quote (121 of 485): > "It is only as we develop others that we permanently succeed." > - Harvey S. Firestone > >
RE: How to discard spam mails
Mailscanner and Amavis-new have way too much overhead IMO. For production, I already have to maintain latest SA releases and Postfix releases, and I know these programs very well. I would rather not put another complex layer that requires updates and seperate config over top of SA if I don't have to. I will try the Spamass-Milter first. Just trying to keep it simple if possible. Thanks > Have you looked at MailScanner? It integrates nicely with SpamAssassin > and your favorite MTA (sendmail / postfix / exim / zmailer) and can also > call a virus scanner. You can set SA score thresholds and delete, > forward, quarantine, mark, or just pass emails based on score. You can > also block or quarantine email based on attachment filenames or file types > (this feature can block new viruses before the AV vendors react) and do a > ton of other useful stuff. > > There are other mail handlers like Amavisd-new which might also have the > functionality you want. > > Pierre Thomson > BIC > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:07 PM > To: Forrest Aldrich > Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails > > > I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I > have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't want > the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA > just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid. > > I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple for > someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could be totally > wrong also about that. > > Do you have any links to a how-to for the ? Or does it have > good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively > easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent days looking > for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam > over 15 points. :--( > > > > > > >> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter >> successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits >> level (now named required_score). >> >> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-) >> >> >> >> >
Re: How to discard spam mails
At 12:07 PM Tuesday, 8/23/2005, Greg Allen wrote -=> I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't want the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid. Then just let SA accomplish its mission of simply marking your email for you. Or from the wiki, "a mail filter to identify Spam." What you do with it after that has always been your business. Besides, every once in a while I still get a message scoring over 15 from one of my kids ;-) There are web interfaces for user configuration of procamil, etc. like Usermin. Ed Kasky ~ Randomly Generated Quote (121 of 485): "It is only as we develop others that we permanently succeed." - Harvey S. Firestone
RE: How to discard spam mails
Have you looked at MailScanner? It integrates nicely with SpamAssassin and your favorite MTA (sendmail / postfix / exim / zmailer) and can also call a virus scanner. You can set SA score thresholds and delete, forward, quarantine, mark, or just pass emails based on score. You can also block or quarantine email based on attachment filenames or file types (this feature can block new viruses before the AV vendors react) and do a ton of other useful stuff. There are other mail handlers like Amavisd-new which might also have the functionality you want. Pierre Thomson BIC -Original Message- From: Greg Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 3:07 PM To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: How to discard spam mails I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't want the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid. I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple for someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could be totally wrong also about that. Do you have any links to a how-to for the Spamass-Milter? Or does it have good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent days looking for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam over 15 points. :--( > Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter > successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits > level (now named required_score). > > Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-) > > > >
Re: How to discard spam mails
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 20:07, Greg Allen wrote: > Do you have any links to a how-to for the Spamass-Milter? Or does it have > good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively > easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent days looking > for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam > over 15 points. :--( Consider a post-acceptance filter like Amavisd-new. Maybe not simple, definitely not a milter, but does what it says on the tin. If you want to reject on mail being scored past 15, you have no choice but to use a milter. If you want to accept, score and bin based on score, you need a post-acceptance filter than does something with the score. Amavisd-new, in that latter role, will call SA for you, determine the score, and forward or bin appropriately. Personally, I love the fact that SA tries to do one thing, and one thing only - determine if mail is spam or non-spam. I actually keep all of my spam - it comes in handy for my dayjob.
Re: How to discard spam mails
At 12:07 PM 8/23/2005, you wrote: I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't want the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid. I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple for someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could be totally wrong also about that. I'm quite certain the developers of SA are quite capable of writing a feature to discard spam over a certain score. But I for one would rather have SA do one thing really good than 10 things mediocre. And by having SA do nothing more than scan e-mail, it will work with most any mailers.
Re: How to discard spam mails
I find this one issue just about the most annoying 'non-feature' of SA. I have a site-wide config (procmail does not work sitewide) and I don't want the overhead and problems of a huge milter program laying in front of SA just to block any email over 15 stars. I like to keep it simple stupid. I am not a programmer, but it just seems like this should be so simple for someone to program into SA... somewhere, somehow, but I could be totally wrong also about that. Do you have any links to a how-to for the Spamass-Milter? Or does it have good install info in the docs? If it does a good job and is relatively easy and light-weight, I would like to try it. I have spent days looking for something more simple and elegant to just do one thing... kill spam over 15 points. :--( > Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter > successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits > level (now named required_score). > > Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-) > > > >
Re: Re: How to discard spam mails
From: "Andy Jezierski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/23/2005 08:55:26 AM:
Basically, sir, it is time to break down and read that f manual.
{^_^}
Potty mouth! Potty mouth! Surely you meant that FINE manual. :-D
I LOVE leaving things like that to other people's imagination. It's
more fun. I don't have to think of a "correct" word to put in there.
And when they get upset it reveals they are well on the well trodden
path to developing a properly dirty mind.
{^_-}
Re: Re: How to discard spam mails
You read the procmailex and procmailrc man pages. Then you install
something that does what you want. I do not have such a script so
I cannot help you. If you scan back in archives for this list you
will find several diversions based on the X-Spam-Level: *
header. Some others were based on the spam score from the subject
header *SPAM* 032.7 ** Powerhouse Investment... It ends up
looking something like:
# If it is guaranteed spam divert to /dev/null. Be aware that life
# issues no guarantees.
:0:
*
/dev/null
# If it might be spam but you're not sure divert to a spam folder and
# review it periodically.
:0:
*
$HOME/mail/spam
Since I am sure your needs are different from mine I cannot help
you any further. At some point you need to learn something and do
it for yourself. Otherwise there is too much potential to make a
mistake that does not meet your particular needs.
Be aware that SpamAssassin does misfire. So if you set the threshold
score for discarding mail too low you are risking losing a very
important email that got mismarked. If you set it too high you run
the risk of accepting way too much spam into your spam folder to
satisfy yourself.
Basically, sir, it is time to break down and read that f manual.
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am using procmail with spamassassin for sendmail
MTA. Where I can get the procmail scripts for the mail
diversion? Or Is it a better choice to user milter and
mimedefang integrated with spamassassin for spam
handling and diversion.
Suresh.
--- jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How are you running SpamAssassin? If you are calling
it from procmail
then there are innumerable scripts floating around
for doing the
bad message diversion. (If you are doing it on mail
just before it
is fetched by your mail reader, say OutlookExpress,
then "No way"
comes to mind. It becomes a setup issue in
OutlookExpress. Check
out filters and the "delete it from server" option.)
There are so many ways to deal with it that I'm
rather astonished
you have never run across any such descriptions.
They float throughout
the wiki. And someone of modest imagination could
figure out the
OutlookExpress rule to deal with spam. (That is
where I do almost all
of my spam diversion and spam handling.)
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am using sendmail as my MTA. Is there any
option
> or additional packages to block the spam mails or
to
> move it some folder instead of user's mailbox when
> identifying as spam mail.
>Suresh
>
>
> --- Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used
>> the Spamass-Milter
>> successfully to block emails that rate at or
above
>> the required_hits
>> level (now named required_score).
>>
>> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my
>> last post ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> jdow wrote:
>>
>> > From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >> hi, Thanks for the response for my
>> earlier question.
>> >> I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to
my
>> >> mailbox and to block from the mailclient using
>> the
>> >> filters . I want to discard those spam mails
when
>> they
>> >> are identified as spam by spamassassin or to
move
>> them
>> >> to a common place other than the user's
mailbox
>> for
>> >> verification .
>> >> Can We do that using spamassassin . If
possible
>> kindly
>> >> assist me in doing that where and how to set
it.
>> >>
>> >> Your earliest answer will be very useful
to
>> me.
>> >>Suresh
>> >
>> >
>> > Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive,
>> "No, you cannot
>> > block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do
is
>> score mails so
>> > that some other agent can look at the score and
>> dispose of this
>> > mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding
>> the spam to the
>> > spam folder it maintains. I could have it
delete
>> the spam. It's
>> > also a simple thing to delete the spam with say
>> "procmail" when
>> > it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin
>> does not delete
>> > mail. It only scores it and marks it."
>> >
>> > {^_^}
>> >
>>
>
>
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Re: Re: How to discard spam mails
"jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
on 08/23/2005 08:55:26 AM:
> Basically, sir, it is time to break down and read that f
manual.
>
> {^_^}
Potty mouth! Potty mouth! Surely you meant
that FINE manual. :-D
Andy
Re: Re: How to discard spam mails
I am using procmail with spamassassin for sendmail
MTA. Where I can get the procmail scripts for the mail
diversion? Or Is it a better choice to user milter and
mimedefang integrated with spamassassin for spam
handling and diversion.
Suresh.
--- jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How are you running SpamAssassin? If you are calling
> it from procmail
> then there are innumerable scripts floating around
> for doing the
> bad message diversion. (If you are doing it on mail
> just before it
> is fetched by your mail reader, say OutlookExpress,
> then "No way"
> comes to mind. It becomes a setup issue in
> OutlookExpress. Check
> out filters and the "delete it from server" option.)
>
> There are so many ways to deal with it that I'm
> rather astonished
> you have never run across any such descriptions.
> They float throughout
> the wiki. And someone of modest imagination could
> figure out the
> OutlookExpress rule to deal with spam. (That is
> where I do almost all
> of my spam diversion and spam handling.)
>
> {^_^}
> - Original Message -
> From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I am using sendmail as my MTA. Is there any
> option
> > or additional packages to block the spam mails or
> to
> > move it some folder instead of user's mailbox when
> > identifying as spam mail.
> >Suresh
> >
> >
> > --- Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used
> >> the Spamass-Milter
> >> successfully to block emails that rate at or
> above
> >> the required_hits
> >> level (now named required_score).
> >>
> >> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my
> >> last post ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> jdow wrote:
> >>
> >> > From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >
> >> >> hi, Thanks for the response for my
> >> earlier question.
> >> >> I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to
> my
> >> >> mailbox and to block from the mailclient using
> >> the
> >> >> filters . I want to discard those spam mails
> when
> >> they
> >> >> are identified as spam by spamassassin or to
> move
> >> them
> >> >> to a common place other than the user's
> mailbox
> >> for
> >> >> verification .
> >> >> Can We do that using spamassassin . If
> possible
> >> kindly
> >> >> assist me in doing that where and how to set
> it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Your earliest answer will be very useful
> to
> >> me.
> >> >>Suresh
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive,
> >> "No, you cannot
> >> > block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do
> is
> >> score mails so
> >> > that some other agent can look at the score and
> >> dispose of this
> >> > mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding
> >> the spam to the
> >> > spam folder it maintains. I could have it
> delete
> >> the spam. It's
> >> > also a simple thing to delete the spam with say
> >> "procmail" when
> >> > it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin
> >> does not delete
> >> > mail. It only scores it and marks it."
> >> >
> >> > {^_^}
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
>
>
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Re: How to discard spam mails
How are you running SpamAssassin? If you are calling it from procmail
then there are innumerable scripts floating around for doing the
bad message diversion. (If you are doing it on mail just before it
is fetched by your mail reader, say OutlookExpress, then "No way"
comes to mind. It becomes a setup issue in OutlookExpress. Check
out filters and the "delete it from server" option.)
There are so many ways to deal with it that I'm rather astonished
you have never run across any such descriptions. They float throughout
the wiki. And someone of modest imagination could figure out the
OutlookExpress rule to deal with spam. (That is where I do almost all
of my spam diversion and spam handling.)
{^_^}
- Original Message -
From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I am using sendmail as my MTA. Is there any option
or additional packages to block the spam mails or to
move it some folder instead of user's mailbox when
identifying as spam mail.
Suresh
--- Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used
the Spamass-Milter
successfully to block emails that rate at or above
the required_hits
level (now named required_score).
Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my
last post ;-)
jdow wrote:
> From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> hi, Thanks for the response for my
earlier question.
>> I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to my
>> mailbox and to block from the mailclient using
the
>> filters . I want to discard those spam mails when
they
>> are identified as spam by spamassassin or to move
them
>> to a common place other than the user's mailbox
for
>> verification .
>> Can We do that using spamassassin . If possible
kindly
>> assist me in doing that where and how to set it.
>>
>> Your earliest answer will be very useful to
me.
>>Suresh
>
>
> Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive,
"No, you cannot
> block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do is
score mails so
> that some other agent can look at the score and
dispose of this
> mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding
the spam to the
> spam folder it maintains. I could have it delete
the spam. It's
> also a simple thing to delete the spam with say
"procmail" when
> it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin
does not delete
> mail. It only scores it and marks it."
>
> {^_^}
>
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Re: How to discard spam mails
I am using sendmail as my MTA. Is there any option
or additional packages to block the spam mails or to
move it some folder instead of user's mailbox when
identifying as spam mail.
Suresh
--- Forrest Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used
> the Spamass-Milter
> successfully to block emails that rate at or above
> the required_hits
> level (now named required_score).
>
> Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my
> last post ;-)
>
>
>
>
> jdow wrote:
>
> > From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> hi, Thanks for the response for my
> earlier question.
> >> I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to my
> >> mailbox and to block from the mailclient using
> the
> >> filters . I want to discard those spam mails when
> they
> >> are identified as spam by spamassassin or to move
> them
> >> to a common place other than the user's mailbox
> for
> >> verification .
> >> Can We do that using spamassassin . If possible
> kindly
> >> assist me in doing that where and how to set it.
> >>
> >> Your earliest answer will be very useful to
> me.
> >>Suresh
> >
> >
> > Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive,
> "No, you cannot
> > block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do is
> score mails so
> > that some other agent can look at the score and
> dispose of this
> > mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding
> the spam to the
> > spam folder it maintains. I could have it delete
> the spam. It's
> > also a simple thing to delete the spam with say
> "procmail" when
> > it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin
> does not delete
> > mail. It only scores it and marks it."
> >
> > {^_^}
> >
>
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Re: How to discard spam mails
Depending upon what MTA you're using, I have used the Spamass-Milter
successfully to block emails that rate at or above the required_hits
level (now named required_score).
Though I'm having some trouble with SA as per my last post ;-)
jdow wrote:
From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hi, Thanks for the response for my earlier question.
I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to my
mailbox and to block from the mailclient using the
filters . I want to discard those spam mails when they
are identified as spam by spamassassin or to move them
to a common place other than the user's mailbox for
verification .
Can We do that using spamassassin . If possible kindly
assist me in doing that where and how to set it.
Your earliest answer will be very useful to me.
Suresh
Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive, "No, you cannot
block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do is score mails so
that some other agent can look at the score and dispose of this
mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding the spam to the
spam folder it maintains. I could have it delete the spam. It's
also a simple thing to delete the spam with say "procmail" when
it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin does not delete
mail. It only scores it and marks it."
{^_^}
Re: How to discard spam mails
From: "suresh kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
hi,
Thanks for the response for my earlier question.
I don't want the spam mails to be delivered to my
mailbox and to block from the mailclient using the
filters . I want to discard those spam mails when they
are identified as spam by spamassassin or to move them
to a common place other than the user's mailbox for
verification .
Can We do that using spamassassin . If possible kindly
assist me in doing that where and how to set it.
Your earliest answer will be very useful to me.
Suresh
Suresh, at the risk of being overly repetitive, "No, you cannot
block mails with SpamAssassin. All you can do is score mails so
that some other agent can look at the score and dispose of this
mail accordingly. I have OutlookExpress feeding the spam to the
spam folder it maintains. I could have it delete the spam. It's
also a simple thing to delete the spam with say "procmail" when
it is in your processing path. But SpamAssassin does not delete
mail. It only scores it and marks it."
{^_^}
