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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bill McCormick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 31. März 2007 05:54 An: users@spamassassin.apache.org Betreff: Re: Missing tests/scores? Matt Kettler wrote: > Bill McCormick wrote: >> OK, so they're parts of normal conversations. And geocites is a real >> domain too, which scores fairly high since it's so prevalent in real >> world spam. If this mail would have scored just 1 more point, we would >> not even be having this conversation because SA would have deleted it. >> Having a individual rules for this sort of thing that, when taken >> together with other scores seems to be exactly what SA is all about. > > Fair enough. Personally I don't have the end goal of trying to get all > my spam high scoring enough it gets deleted. I'm quite happy to > autodelete about half of it, and have the other half tagged and shuffled > into a junk box for my casual skimming. From this perspective, my > primary reaction was "hell, the score of the thing's over 13 points, > what more do you need?" > I worked the same way for some time. Then I found SARE. Now it's like an obsession; must delete spam; must delete ALL spam :) >> Maybe some of my custom scores could be further raised and/or my >> sa_delete setting lowered, but they seem pretty reasonable and in line >> with what others are doing. >> How many rules do I need? As many as it takes. What's the rule count >> up to anyway? >> >> Anyway, I think I'll try my hand at writing some rules for this. > > > Just be aware that in general adding on more and more rules shifts up > the average score of both spam and nonspam. Ideally, your spam rules > should be as spam specific as possible, so this effect is more > noticeable in the spam, and less noticeable in the nonspam. At the most > extreme end, adding a lot of rules with very poor selectivity is on > average the same as reducing your thresholds. > > Writing rules is easy, writing good rules is sometimes less obvious than > your think. > How true. I'm familiar with this axiom in my own line of work. > I strongly suggest a quick read of the version of the rules writing > guide over in the wiki, precluded by the admission that I am biased here > as I wrote the original text, but many have helped me along the way and > others have built much upon it since. > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/WritingRules > > Even if you know the mechanics of regexes and SA syntax, the "writing > better rules" at the end is quite handy. > Thanks!! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
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This may have been brought up before Anyway to unsubscribe this person? I'm getting a bounce for every post to the list. I'm about to put that server in my blacklist... At 12:01 PM 11/28/2006, you wrote: Your message (ID:) could not be delivered to the recipients below See the delivery status below for more information - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reporting-MTA: dns; indiamart-HO Final-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Original-Recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Received: from 192.168.1.149 by indiamart-HO ([192.168.1.141] running VPOP3) with ESMTP for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:31:58 +0530 Received: from qmail.intermesh.net by dileep (VPOP3) with POP3; Wed, 29 Nov 2006 01:32:12 +0530 X-Kaspersky: Checked Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 12604 invoked by uid 89); 28 Nov 2006 20:01:27 - Received: by simscan 1.0.9 ppid: 12492, pid: 12495, t: 8.7132sscanners: clamav: 0.88.3/m:41/d:2255 spam: 3.0.4 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2)by qmail.intermesh.net with SMTP; 28 Nov 2006 20:01:18 - Received: (qmail 63535 invoked by uid 500); 28 Nov 2006 20:01:15 - Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Post: <mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org> List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org Received: (qmail 63526 invoked by uid 99); 28 Nov 2006 20:01:15 - Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133)by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:01:15 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0tests= Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [66.51.199.94] (HELO mail9.dslextreme.com) (66.51.199.94)by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:01:02 -0800 Received: (qmail 28331 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2006 20:00:41 - Received: from unknown (HELO espphotography.com) (68.183.201.95)by mail9. with SMTP; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:00:41 -0800 Received: from LAPTOP.dslextreme.com (unknown [216.200.134.242])by espphotography.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890DDAAD2F8for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:00:45 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.7 (Beta) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:02:09 -0800 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org From: Evan Platt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Installed FuzzyOCR - What am I missing? In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) onslsp-da4p21.dca2.superb.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=6.0 tests=none autolearn=hamversion=3.0.4 X-Server: VPOP3 V1.5.0m - Registered
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From: "Kelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mike Jackson wrote:
It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list
where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the
list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like
it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method.
The posters seem pretty clueful. Are there a lot of n00b lurkers?
Even that doesn't track. Assuming (and I realize this is a big
assumption) the distribution of list management software is typical on
the various lists I see, I would expect most "newbies" would not have
encountered the "send a message to the list with 'unsubscribe' in the
subject" type of interface.
Oh, wait. I see directions like that in spam.
Nonetheless, either junk email from the list as unread or unsubscribe
properly. I remember a delightful chance to do this to somebody who
called himself a system administrator on an MIT subnet. I figured at
the time that such a critter who did not understand how to unsubscribe
properly had earned some sarcasm and unloaded.
A few people suggested I had gotten too rough on him. Others laughed.
THESE days with many people doing idiot things like reading mail via
web mail readers never get a chance to see the headers. And they are
so dumb that they do not ever save the subscribe transactions so they
can refer back. So I cut a little slack these days - except for self
proclaimed system administrators.
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Considering the list in question, I'd have thought headers were a key source of interest - I guess it's a Lookout user On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:38:34 -0700, Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mike Jackson wrote: >>> It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list >>> where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the >>> list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like >>> it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method. >> >> The posters seem pretty clueful. Are there a lot of n00b lurkers? > >Even that doesn't track. Assuming (and I realize this is a big >assumption) the distribution of list management software is typical on >the various lists I see, I would expect most "newbies" would not have >encountered the "send a message to the list with 'unsubscribe' in the >subject" type of interface. > >Oh, wait. I see directions like that in spam. > >Never mind. *grumble*
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Mike Jackson wrote: It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method. The posters seem pretty clueful. Are there a lot of n00b lurkers? Even that doesn't track. Assuming (and I realize this is a big assumption) the distribution of list management software is typical on the various lists I see, I would expect most "newbies" would not have encountered the "send a message to the list with 'unsubscribe' in the subject" type of interface. Oh, wait. I see directions like that in spam. Never mind. *grumble* -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications
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Yes, I've received this communication in error. A unsubscribe command never goes to the list. It goes to the unsubscribe address specified in the headers, in this case: It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method. The posters seem pretty clueful. Are there a lot of n00b lurkers?
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Evan Platt wrote: Yes, I've received this communication in error. A unsubscribe command never goes to the list. It goes to the unsubscribe address specified in the headers, in this case: It's odd... I think it's been 7 or 8 years since I used a mailing list where subscribe/unsubscribe commands were supposed to be sent to the list address, but among the dozen or so lists I'm on, it seems like it's still a weekly occurrence that someone tries to use this method. -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications
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On Wed, April 5, 2006 10:53 am, Jim Zimmerman wrote: > UNSUBSCRIBE As I'm sure this isn't the first list you'll want to unsubscribe from, nor will it be the last, there's a general rule for lists: You don't send UNSUBSCRIBE commands to the 'list'. There's generally a specific address to send them to. In this case, as the headers of every message state: list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's usually the opposite of subscribing. If you subscribe by sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you would probably unsubscribe by sending an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Philip Prindeville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:52 AM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Filtering based on the recipients
Philip Prindeville wrote:
>Matt Kettler wrote:
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>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>Matt Kettler wrote:
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>>>>[It] has no access to the message envelope, only the headers and
>>>>body, so this information isn't accessible to SA.
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>>>Well, unless you add an Apparently-To header in the MTA prior to
calling SpamAssassin. MIMEDefang has an $AddApparentlyToForSpamAssassin
variable you can set to 1 in mimedefang-filter for this.
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>>>I assume SpamAssassin uses this header?
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>>Yes, but I've never seen an "Apparently-To" implementation that listed
>>all the recipients of a multi-recipient message...
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>>All the implementations I've seen add this after the message has been
>>split up and only the current recipient is added, which doesn't help.
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>>are trying to detect one which has a BCC to another user.
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>Exactly.
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>I'm using Sendmail and Mimedefang 2.56 if that helps any. Looking at
>spam_assassin_mail() in Mimedefang, I see:
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>if ($AddApparentlyToForSpamAssassin and
>($#Recipients >= 0)) {
>push(@sahdrs, "Apparently-To: " .
> join(", ", @Recipients) . "\n");
>}
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>Are you sure the value of @Recipients is fragmented at this point?
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>-Philip
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Oh, never mind. Hadn't yet caught up with all of the comments.
Regarding using the /etc/mail/access file... yeah, I could do that, but
I can
get much more powerful filtering in mimedefang or spamassassin, so I'm
gradually going through the process of moving all of that functionality
out of sendmail and into either SA or MdF.
-Philip
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I talked to Dave Hill's brother on Friday (he is the "listed" "zone contact" for dailyhills.com in 'whois'. He is Dennis Hills, he promised to speak to his brother that day, so the problem will hopefully have finally ended. Obviously Dave Hills is an enthusiast - he even has a page on his web site which show SA stats for his site, but also obviously, he doesn't keep up with his email (in defence, his web page notes that he moved about five weeks ago). Let's all hope the bounces have ended. Paul Shupak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, Could someone please remove the subscriber, which constantly sends messages the the one below back to the list ?? The subscriber seesm to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] - I've contacted the person before, because I'm tired of seeing these rejected mails from his system being posted back to the list, but aparently the problem hasn't been solved... Regards, /Brian -Original Message- From: Vicki Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17. marts 2005 02:04 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: SPAM(7.2) rule didn't fire SpamAssassin, running on "mail.dailyhills.com", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this email so you can view it (if it isn't spam). If you have any questions, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Ok. What totally minless dumb thing did I do that I just can't see? This rule is in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf body CF_BAD_URL4 /www\.(vdrugz|gh6)\.net/i score CF_BAD_URL4 10.0 describe CF_BAD_URL4 .net Junk site [...] Content analysis details: (7.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 2.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence level above 50% [cf: 100] -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0001] 2.5 RAZOR2_CHECK Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net/) 1.0 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist [URIs: gh6.net] 0.4 URIBL_AB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the AB SURBL blocklist [URIs: gh6.net] 1.5 URIBL_WS_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the WS SURBL blocklist [URIs: gh6.net] 3.2 URIBL_OB_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the OB SURBL blocklist [URIs: gh6.net] 4.3 URIBL_SC_SURBL Contains an URL listed in the SC SURBL blocklist [URIs: gh6.net] -5.5 AWLAWL: From: address is in the auto white-list -- -- --- Begin Message --- Ok. What totally minless dumb thing did I do that I just can't see? This rule is in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf body CF_BAD_URL4 /www\.(vdrugz|gh6)\.net/i score CF_BAD_URL4 10.0 describe CF_BAD_URL4 .net Junk site I received a piece of mail containing the string http://www.gh6.net/ Yet the rule did not fire >Subject: Prescription Drugs >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:39:25 +0700 >X-Priority: 3 >X-Spam-Flag: YES >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on cfcl.com >X-Spam-Level: *** >X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=3.0 required=0.5 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO > autolearn=no version=3.0.2 > >Online pharmacy - Visit our online store and save. > >Save up to 80% compared to normal rates. > >All popular drugs are available! > >- World wide shipping >- No Doctor Visits >- No Prescriptions >- Next Day Priority Shipping >- Discreet Packaging >- Buy in Bulk and Save! > >We make it easier and faster than ever to get the prescriptions you >need. > >Go here: http://www.gh6.net/ -- Vicki Brown ZZZ Journeyman Sourceror: zz |\ _,,,---,,_ Code, Docs, Process, Scripts & Philtres zz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ Perl, WWW, Mac OS X http://cfcl.com/vlb |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' SF Bay Area, CA USA ___ '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ___ --- End Message ---
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404 unsubcribe not found. 500 rejected by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for being unsubmissive. Sorry I culdn't resist ;) You want this: list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Its in the headers. --Chris
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shane mullins wrote: I know what you mean Pete, I work for a public school system, and it is a major fight whenever I introduce an OpenSource solution. By using OpenSource solutions, I have provided better solutions to problems, and saved much money. But, it has not been easy, and there have been few, if any thanks. I know this is an old thread, and also OT by this point but I had to interject here... I used to work for the public school system here, and while I was there, school administration decided that the open source centralized rather inexpensive but very well done, and very usable attendance/grades/financial/discipline database should be moved to a windows based, de-centralized, solution that required a huge ms sql server for synchronization, and a pretty hefty server in each school, we're talking 20 some schools... And it didn't even preform nearly as well... In my opinion, this was a step backwards... Anyway, sorry for the wasted bandwidth!! -Russ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
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I've been told by my boss that I can't use anything BUT spamassassin, because it is open source. ;-) >>> Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/21/04 7:47 PM >>> On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 4:40:56 PM, Peter Benac wrote: > And that makes it right because? No, it makes it wrong. :-( Jeff C. __ > From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 12:32:41 PM, Peter Benac wrote: >> If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the >> ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I >> would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the >> taxpayers money on something they already have for free. >> Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on >> Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a >> thought!! > Hi Pete, > Apparently you have not worked in government. Government budgets are > determined by politics and how much you spend. The more you can budget and > spend, the higher your status. If you budget a certain amount and don't > spend it, you get less money next year. Government is structured towards > spending more money, not less. > Jeff C. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
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On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 4:40:56 PM, Peter Benac wrote: > And that makes it right because? No, it makes it wrong. :-( Jeff C. __ > From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 12:32:41 PM, Peter Benac wrote: >> If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the >> ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I >> would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the >> taxpayers money on something they already have for free. >> Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on >> Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a >> thought!! > Hi Pete, > Apparently you have not worked in government. Government budgets are > determined by politics and how much you spend. The more you can budget and > spend, the higher your status. If you budget a certain amount and don't > spend it, you get less money next year. Government is structured towards > spending more money, not less. > Jeff C. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
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And that makes it right because? Peter P. Benac, CCNA Celtic Spirit Network Solutions Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -Original Message- From: Jeff Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 19:31 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 12:32:41 PM, Peter Benac wrote: > If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the > ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I > would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the > taxpayers money on something they already have for free. > Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on > Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a > thought!! Hi Pete, Apparently you have not worked in government. Government budgets are determined by politics and how much you spend. The more you can budget and spend, the higher your status. If you budget a certain amount and don't spend it, you get less money next year. Government is structured towards spending more money, not less. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
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On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 12:32:41 PM, Peter Benac wrote: > If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the ones > paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I would have > to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the taxpayers money on > something they already have for free. > Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on Education, > Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a thought!! Hi Pete, Apparently you have not worked in government. Government budgets are determined by politics and how much you spend. The more you can budget and spend, the higher your status. If you budget a certain amount and don't spend it, you get less money next year. Government is structured towards spending more money, not less. Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/
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Richard Ozer wrote: Oh good! Can I buy a service contract too? Hopefully it's priced per spam! Jeez, I knew I was forgetting something. :-)
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My company is very cheap in the products it buys, some of the commercial products we have are HORRIBLE (read: Microsoft office and alpine view.) However, since they are so cheap, I can offer one commercial product verses an open sourced one, and it will always win. Cheap = good? Not really. Open source = good? oh yes :-D Many managers look at the TCO and don't realize you will still need to train/maintain that DB of tokens for bayes either way. TCO is definitely much lower with open source in may ways. But they can slap a price sticker on support and try to enforce the support vendor on their 'word' that they will provide 'cost equivalent support.' In an OT, They just recently upgraded the support contract with Dell for another year for 600USD on a server that is only worth 500USD. Pick your battles is all I need say :D That commercial product will cost more than spamassassin. It is a shame however, that your state taxpayers will pickup the bill. (in another note, my city has swapped all their mail/db/GIS servers to open source recently, saving the city millions of dollars a year.) Good luck in your adventures (was where you were at.) Thanks, JamesDR Gary W. Smith wrote: Ironically, that's one thing that Joel said in his email (regarding some of the venders using SA). It's got to be said. Dude, tell your management that they are stupid and if they still need help we can offer the clueX4 to assist in their learning... This was just referenced only 7 emails ago. Go with commercial then (that way you can feel better about yourself knowing that you purchased an open source product from a vender that is paying no royalties for it). In terms of "ruled out," that would be very untrue. We looked at 36 products, and several of them have SpamAssassin inside, both in Argh... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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snowjack wrote: I have an anti-spam product I, ah, we, ah, my COMPANY, (yeah, that's the ticket) call "Snowjack Scanner" which is at least as effective as any other... commercial solution. It has a Bayes filter, score averaging by sender, whitelisting capabilities, many effective individual rules which are weighted by genetic algorithm, and the ability to incorporate information from RBL and SURBL lookups. For only $5000, much less than many competing commercial solutions, I will send you this amazing package as soon as I can gimp a logo and slap it on a CD. I'll even set it up to auto-install on a bare-bones PC, with automated security updates, and for only $200 per hour I... uh, one of our CONSULTANTS... will help you integrate it into your mail systems. -- Snowjack Consulting Services Inc. LLC. TBS. OMFG. For the humor-impaired, that was a joke. OMFG.
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Oh good! Can I buy a service contract too? Hopefully it's priced per spam! RO - Original Message - From: "snowjack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? > William Holman wrote: > > I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use > > SpamAssassin since it's "open source" > > > > How do I unsubscribe from the lists? > > > > Thank-you! > > I have an anti-spam product I, ah, we, ah, my COMPANY, (yeah, that's the > ticket) call "Snowjack Scanner" which is at least as effective as any > other... commercial solution. It has a Bayes filter, score averaging by > sender, whitelisting capabilities, many effective individual rules which > are weighted by genetic algorithm, and the ability to incorporate > information from RBL and SURBL lookups. For only $5000, much less than > many competing commercial solutions, I will send you this amazing > package as soon as I can gimp a logo and slap it on a CD. I'll even set > it up to auto-install on a bare-bones PC, with automated security > updates, and for only $200 per hour I... uh, one of our CONSULTANTS... > will help you integrate it into your mail systems. > > -- > Snowjack Consulting Services Inc. LLC. TBS. OMFG. >
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William Holman wrote: I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you! I have an anti-spam product I, ah, we, ah, my COMPANY, (yeah, that's the ticket) call "Snowjack Scanner" which is at least as effective as any other... commercial solution. It has a Bayes filter, score averaging by sender, whitelisting capabilities, many effective individual rules which are weighted by genetic algorithm, and the ability to incorporate information from RBL and SURBL lookups. For only $5000, much less than many competing commercial solutions, I will send you this amazing package as soon as I can gimp a logo and slap it on a CD. I'll even set it up to auto-install on a bare-bones PC, with automated security updates, and for only $200 per hour I... uh, one of our CONSULTANTS... will help you integrate it into your mail systems. -- Snowjack Consulting Services Inc. LLC. TBS. OMFG.
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> I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use > SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Effective immediately: employees will not be allowed to drink tap water, because it's free. Company policy mandates that only Coca-Cola and other commercially-bottled beverages are permitted. Personal preferences are of no account in this, as it is a matter of company policy. I feel fortunate to work for a company where solutions based on open-source are seen as more desirable than shrinkwrapped commercial software. We use both, but we won't deploy a commercial product unless we're sure that no comparable open-source alternative exists. And it's not just a case of 'making do' with an open-source system because we can't afford commercial: many open-source solutions are of exceptional quality, both in terms of performance, reliability and ease-of-use. Overall, I think we're more satisfied with the open-source solutions we use than the commercial products. Open-source is a smart business's secret weapon. Angus
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Ironically, that's one thing that Joel said in his email (regarding some of the venders using SA). It's got to be said. Dude, tell your management that they are stupid and if they still need help we can offer the clueX4 to assist in their learning... This was just referenced only 7 emails ago. Go with commercial then (that way you can feel better about yourself knowing that you purchased an open source product from a vender that is paying no royalties for it). >>In terms of "ruled out," that would be very untrue. We looked at 36 >>products, and several of them have SpamAssassin inside, both in Argh...
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>-Original Message- >From: shane mullins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:52 PM >To: Peter P. Benac >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Unsubscribe? > > >I know what you mean Pete, > >I work for a public school system, and it is a major fight whenever >I introduce an OpenSource solution. By using OpenSource solutions, I >have provided better solutions to problems, and saved much money. But, >it has not been easy, and there have been few, if any thanks. I completely rearranged, secured, web hosted, VPN, and antispam'd the company using all opensource. Thanks I get? "I got a spam this morning, WTF are you doing?" - President. Yes you read correctly... 'a spam'. It was tagged as spam, but he 'got it' still. :/ Oh the other thanks, "Why can't I connect into the internal system from any hotel using my AOL account? I want to do that. Other companies do that." Budget for doing all this work... $0. Hardware.$Old_systems. Less headaches from being more secure and less spam..$Priceless. --Chris (I feel your pain.)
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Yes... God forbid that you wouldn't have to pay a bill. Those bill payers would be out of work. Be sure to let us all know what company you work for so that we can divest our stock as soon as possible ;-) RO - Original Message - From: "William Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 12:08 PM Subject: Unsubscribe? > I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use > SpamAssassin since it's "open source" > > How do I unsubscribe from the lists? > > Thank-you! >
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I know what you mean Pete, I work for a public school system, and it is a major fight whenever I introduce an OpenSource solution. By using OpenSource solutions, I have provided better solutions to problems, and saved much money. But, it has not been easy, and there have been few, if any thanks. Shane - Original Message - From: "Peter P. Benac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'William Holman'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Unsubscribe? If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the taxpayers money on something they already have for free. Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a thought!! Regards, Pete Peter P. Benac, CCNA Celtic Spirit Network Solutions Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 15:08 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!
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Good afternoon, William, On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, William Holman wrote: I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" In all sincerity, why not recommend McAfee SpamKiller? It's commercial, I'm sure it has paid support available, all the things you'd want from a commercial product. Oh, and I think some guy named Justin something-or-other works there. ;-) You can decide if you want to mention what software runs it or not. In your shoes I'd grin quietly and praise my superiors for making such an _excellent_ technology choice. For full disclosure, I have no finacial ties to McAfee (although there's some early discussion that they and the sa-blacklist/surbl project may help each other in the future). Cheers, - Bill --- "Eagles may soar, high and proud, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines." (Courtesy of Mike Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) -- William Stearns ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Mason, Buildkernel, freedups, p0f, rsync-backup, ssh-keyinstall, dns-check, more at: http://www.stearns.org --
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Happens all the time at all levels of gov't. And maybe worse with DOD stuff. I've worked with small government and DOD contractors. When it comes to Perl v. $30,000 the $30,000 wins. Or MySQL v. Microsofts SQL Server... Microsoft wins. A combination of "not my money", and nobody wanting to put their neck out to make a decision. Easier to write the million-dollar checks and forget about it... Very troubling. Sorry to venture further into the OT... :-) But, as a programmer who primarily works to integrate top-heavy, kludgy and expensive products... it's disheartening to say the least. Andy At 02:32 pm 2004-12-21, Peter P. Benac wrote: If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the taxpayers money on something they already have for free. Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a thought!! Regards, Pete Peter P. Benac, CCNA Celtic Spirit Network Solutions Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 15:08 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!
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If I understand you Mail Address correct aren't the Tax Payers the ones paying the bills. While I don't live in your County or State I would have to wonder why the people you work for NEED to spend the taxpayers money on something they already have for free. Don't they have a better way of spending the money like maybe on Education, Law Enforcement, EMS Services, or Fire Services... Just a thought!! Regards, Pete Peter P. Benac, CCNA Celtic Spirit Network Solutions Providing Network and Systems Project Management and Installation and Web Hosting. Phone: 919-618-2557 Web: http://www.emacolet.com Need quick reliable Systems or Network Management advice visit http://www.nmsusers.org To have principles... First have courage.. With principles comes integrity!!! -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 15:08 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!
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>Anyone else not surprised, but completely aggravated by this statement? They >are most likely going to go pay for a package that is SA in the background >anyway. >Good luck William! >--Chris Actually SA was the one that has given us more ammo to use open source. Our management saw how good it performed and when we told them the cost vs the existing product they started allowing use to look at more products, i.e. amavisd-new and clamav Martin.
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Chris Santerre wrote: -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:08 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Anyone else not surprised, but completely aggravated by this statement? They are most likely going to go pay for a package that is SA in the background anyway. Good luck William! Good luck indeed. All i can say is when i installed an anti-spam program on our email server and my bosses inbox was spam free they were delighted beyond belief. When i told them it was all free they nearly fell over. I got a raise 3 days later. Maybe you should be looking for another job ;) -Jim
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>-Original Message- >From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 3:08 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Unsubscribe? > > >I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use >SpamAssassin since it's "open source" Anyone else not surprised, but completely aggravated by this statement? They are most likely going to go pay for a package that is SA in the background anyway. Good luck William! --Chris
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>From the headers of every message sent through the mailing list: list-help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> list-post: <mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org> -Original Message- From: William Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 1:08 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Unsubscribe? I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!
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I've been over-ruled by those who pay the bills, so I can't use SpamAssassin since it's "open source" How do I unsubscribe from the lists? Thank-you!
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Lito A. Lampitoc wrote: > I'm having problem unsubscribing to this list, I send e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it > says "this list" is users@spamassassin.apache.org not [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I think you just have the wrong list. Try again using the users list. > I'm sure that this the e-mail address that I used. Check the headers of the messages that you receive from the list. There should be a Sender or a Return-Path or other identifier of the list. It uses VERP to uniquely identify the sender and bounces from them. Therefore there will be a string that identifies you there. In my postfix setup it is Return-Path. Use that to verify your address. Bob
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I'm having problem unsubscribing to this list, I send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but it says [EMAIL PROTECTED] was not on the announce mailing list when I received your request and is not a subscriber of this list. I'm sure that this the e-mail address that I used. Anyone?
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, SME Server Admin wrote: > On Wednesday 29 Sep 2004 13:19, Mike Burger wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Thank you :) You're quite welcome. -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit http://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update, or send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message of: subscribe
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On Wednesday 29 Sep 2004 13:19, Mike Burger wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Thank you :) Cheers, Elwyn
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On Wednesday 29 Sep 2004 02:48, you wrote: > we shifted from incubator.apache.org a while ago. Ahh, I see, Thank you Theo :)
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I'm sorry that you don't want my mail, but I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Over the weekend, I travelled...in order to not have a build up of mail from the list, I sent a blank email to the address below: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The listserv sent me a confirmation email...to which I replied with another blank email, leaving the subject intact. I then got a "Goodbye from users@spamassassin.apache.org" message, indicating that I was unsubscribed, and I didn't see another message from the list until Monday, when I resubscribed by sending a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The listserv sent me a confirmation email, to which i replied with another blank email, leaving the subject intact. The problem is not with the listserv. The problem, it would seem, from what SMES wrote below, is that they're using outdated instructions. Yesterday, I sent out the correct address to use for unsubscribing; instructions that are in the headers of the messages coming through the list. I don't think I understand how my not posting to the list is going to help either of you. On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Declan Moriarty wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 08:56:20PM -0500, Mike Burger enlightened us thusly > I don't want your mail. For some reason they refuse to remove my e-mail > address from this mailing list. Kindly avoid posting to > users@spamassassin.apache.org until this is fixed. > > > The headers show this: > > > > list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, SME Server Admin wrote: > > > > > Can someone give me the unsubscribe information for this mailing list > > > please? > > > > > > I've followed the info in the headers but I just get a "failure" notice > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. > > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > > addresses. > > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) > > > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. > > > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following > > > addresses. > > > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) > > > > > > > > > And as per the admin start message: > > > > > > To remove your address from the list, send a message to: > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > This doesn't work :( > > > > > > Cheers, SMES > > > > > > Elwyn > > > > > > > -- > > Mike Burger > > http://www.bubbanfriends.org > > > > Visit the Dog Pound II BBS > > telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org > > > > To be notified of updates to the web site, visit > > http://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update, or send a > > message to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with a message of: > > > > subscribe > > -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit http://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update, or send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message of: subscribe
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The headers show this: list-unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, SME Server Admin wrote: > Can someone give me the unsubscribe information for this mailing list please? > > I've followed the info in the headers but I just get a "failure" notice > > > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) > > > And as per the admin start message: > > To remove your address from the list, send a message to: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > This doesn't work :( > > Cheers, SMES > > Elwyn > -- Mike Burger http://www.bubbanfriends.org Visit the Dog Pound II BBS telnet://dogpound2.citadel.org or http://dogpound2.citadel.org To be notified of updates to the web site, visit http://www.bubbanfriends.org/mailman/listinfo/site-update, or send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message of: subscribe
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Can someone give me the unsubscribe information for this mailing list please? I've followed the info in the headers but I just get a "failure" notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) And as per the admin start message: To remove your address from the list, send a message to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This doesn't work :( Cheers, SMES Elwyn
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Subject: Sorry to ask but how to I unsubscribe > I don't see anything obvious. Look in the mail message headers Loren
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I don't see anything obvious. Shawn
