[VFB] FW: Comments from the Trip

[Mark Romero]

Here's a summury email...basically a wrap-up of the retreat we helped with 
this past weekend. Below there are pics and video footage of the event. Btw, 
the show they took us to see on Sat. night was, "The Number One Hits of the 
Sixties." Just a bit corney, but it was fun, and i know the vets really 
appriciated it. 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:44:48 -0700
From: rick.trowbri...@yahoo.com
Subject: Comments from the Trip
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Here's some information and comments I've compiled so far.  My final comments 
are the last in this e-mail.  
Hope you enjoy it and let me hear any comments you care to send my way!  
 



 
A letter from John Richerson (helped with cooking and guiding on Lake Taneycomo)
 
 
Hi Rick, 
  
I just came back from the DAV here in Springfield. I visited with Richard 
(Rick) Polk the DAV Commander, and Ron the Treasurer, they still cannot put 
into words how much they enjoyed the weekend of fishing. There are 10 vets 
already that want to sign up for my fly tying class beginning in October. Rick 
has sure been pushing the program. I don’t know if he is on a fishing high, or 
just enjoyed watching the veterans that were with us go from withdrawn to 
visiting with everyone. 
  
We have opened up a whole new door for them. Rick said, “It had been along time 
since he really got to let his guard down and just relax and enjoy.” Ron said, 
“I just can't tell you how much I enjoyed everything.” This just goes to show 
that I now have some really great new friends out of the fellowship we enjoyed 
this weekend. 
  
For me personally, I had a very enjoyable time and was glad that I finally was 
able to help give back to Project Healing Waters. I am also living on a high 
that I got from helping my fellow Veterans. It has been along time since I was 
able to do anything for someone other than myself. I find myself really sore. 
Now mind you, I have only moved from my recliner to the fridge the last few 
days but, it is a great kind of hurt! 
  
Thanks again for all that you have done here in this area! Keep up the great 
work. Everyone appreciates all you do. 
  
John Richerson 
Missouri rep
 
JOHN RICHERSON
GOOD OL BOY LURES
1(417)865-2841
SPRINGFIELD, MO.





 

Zachary Hoyt (Guide that worked with Veteran SSGt Norman Lott - Marine (ret))

 

"Thanks for such a great opportunity Rick. I had an absolutely awesome time 
that will never be forgotten. Friendships were forged that will never be lost." 



 George Steffen (Guide that mainly worked with Seaman Ronn Carr - Navy (ret))
 
"Cool shots, Rick. I will never forget it. It would be great to get everyone's 
pictures in one place to share. When do we do it again?"
 



 
Misako Ishimura (Japanese Fly Casting Team Captain, enjoyed fishing and 
conducted fly rod casting classes)
 
"Rick, We (Mark Romero & herself) appreciated that you let us join to The 
Project Healing Water. Please let me know where to post my pictures."
 



A letter from Sherry Henn, wife of an 875th Engineers, Arkansas
 
Rick,
 
I need a letter head so that I can give it to these donors.  Getting started we 
got a goal to reach and there isn't time to waste.  Thanks for including me in 
this wonderful program and I promise I will do all I can to help you get the 
funding you need to keep up the wonderful work you are doing. The trip to 
Brannson was awesome We loved it. I am getting phone calls on the fun raising 
already so please get me a letter head as soon as possible and when you do the 
trips i need to know how many usually go with a group so that I can start 
making boxes with fly's for the next one and will have the one going to Iraq 
sent to you with in a week. 
 
Thanks again, 
Sheri Henn 
 
PROUD WIFE OF AN AMERICAN SOLDIER 
   SGT. RICHARD A. HENN
 GOD BLESS THE 875TH ENGINEERS
 



 
Dear Project Healing Waters and friends,
 
We truly had a wonderful time and couldn't have done it without everyone's 
help!  The guys told me that they've never had such a great trip and Travis 
Dulaney caught close to 50 fish in 2 days.  I, myself, caught 10 fish, most of 
which were over 16 inches and all Rainbow with the most beautiful colors.  We 
had a lot of family members there fishing with the guides and other family and 
let me know just how much they really loved being there with the Veterans.  One 
in particular, Sherry Henn, has already started a fund raising push to help PHW 
Southern Region continue our efforts!  Below is a list of the guides that 
helped out.  Feel free to send them an e-mail anytime and thank t

[VFB] Re: Alaska Trip

[Mark Romero]

love these stories Alan.keep it up..i've travelled 
al over the world.but VERY little (one trip to Cnadaof it was for 
fishing. Fished a LOT in the states...but somehow Alaska seems like a 
forin' country (couldn't figure out how to spell it, LMAO),.

if someone was to offer me a all expense paid trip to anywhere in the world to 
fish for a monthbut the catch was that it'd be the last time i could 
ever go anywhere to fish.outta the country.no matter who paid. i'd take 
Alaska in a N.Y. minute. That's the one place i REALLY wanna fish some 
daymore than any other that is. 

Gonna have to settle for Ireland next July for now. hehehehehe.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Alaska Trip
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:05:33 -0700




I actually hooked two Sockeye. Boy are they hard fighters.  also snagged one. 
That was fun but hard to get them off quickly.
 
I thought the big Rainbows fought hard till latched on to a Silver. I caught a 
big male that had already turned red, and two other males that were just 
starting to change.
The bucks are a lot stronger then the hens.
 
While we were there we saw a hugh Wolf. A bear that was about 50 feet from us 
but only woke up whene a plane was landing or taking off. Then went back to 
sleep.
After we took off I saw him come from where we were fileting the Salmon and he 
had threee in his mouth and just looked up at us as were were taking off. Like 
he was saying " It's about time you guys left me something to eat after waking 
me up all day".
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Bliss 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:53 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Alaska Trip


Alan,
 
The trip sounds absolutlely incredible.  I agree on the salmon.  I thought 
catching sockeye was an absolute rush.   I am envious of you.  Glad it was fun.
 
Mike


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:



 
 
Tony and all:
 
I was not ably to use the Chili Demons or any of the 50 or 60 dz. flies that I 
tied.
At the lodge the guides rig up your rods every day by making leaders and 
setting up a bobber and a 6 or 8mm bead.
That worked all day every day, and the reason is they tell you there are so 
many eggs floating down the rivers and that is all the trout key on.
 
The trip was the best fishing I have ever had despite loosing some big 
rainbows. I also caught a lot of big 'bows.
 
This really sounds demeaning, but when you got an 18 or 20" rainbow on, it was 
almost like you wish they would break off just so you have more time fighting 
24 26 and 28" fish. I had fish break me off as i tried to lift my rod tip on 
many occasions.
One big one on the Battle River took the egg and just expoded down stream and 
all I could do was hold the rod up as high as I could. It was into the backing 
in a flash and then SNAP. The knot at the fly line broke. Didn't untie, just 
broke. The next day the pilot/guide saw a line way down stream and picked it 
up. Lo and behold there was a fish on it. He tried to bring it in hand over 
hand, but it broke him off to. It was my fly line from the day before.
 
I caught many 24 and 26 " rainbows and got to land a 29" on Sunday.
I was playing a rather large rainbow on Friday for about 20 minutes when we 
finally got him into some slack water. The guide was just about to jump out and 
net him when he decided he had enough of this silliness and turned and ran 
away. We both got some very good looks at him and he was well over 30".
 
On Saturday we fished the Swezack River(not sure about the spelling) in Katmai 
National Park for Silver Salmon. I thought big 'bows pulled hard. HA!!!
The second fish I fouled hooked in the tail..Holy Crap It was around 
29-30" long and must have been extreemely agitated that I was pulling him the 
oposite way he wanted to go because he did not give up easily. Could not land 
him, but the guide did manage to get the hook out of his tail.
 
The fisrt day out I caught a 20" Grayling. The state record is 24" so I was 
very gratified.
 
Got to see many many bears. They seemd better at catching fish then me and the 
rest of the crew put together.
Thay could care less about us being 20-30 yards away. They just jumped right in 
the river and started knawing on Sockeye. one bear jumped in right across the 
river from me and chowed down a Sockeye, moved down about 30 yards and found 
another to his liking and then moved down about 70 yards and ate that one also, 
with out ever leaving the river. And he was in the swift current!! 
 
Good thing 'Fisherman' season wasn't open yet.LOL
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/
 
 
 
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony








-- 
Mike Bliss
Aloha 

[VFB] Re: Alaska Trip

[Alan Di Somma]

I actually hooked two Sockeye. Boy are they hard fighters.  also snagged one. 
That was fun but hard to get them off quickly.

I thought the big Rainbows fought hard till latched on to a Silver. I caught a 
big male that had already turned red, and two other males that were just 
starting to change.
The bucks are a lot stronger then the hens.

While we were there we saw a hugh Wolf. A bear that was about 50 feet from us 
but only woke up whene a plane was landing or taking off. Then went back to 
sleep.
After we took off I saw him come from where we were fileting the Salmon and he 
had threee in his mouth and just looked up at us as were were taking off. Like 
he was saying " It's about time you guys left me something to eat after waking 
me up all day".


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Bliss 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:53 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Alaska Trip


  Alan,

  The trip sounds absolutlely incredible.  I agree on the salmon.  I thought 
catching sockeye was an absolute rush.   I am envious of you.  Glad it was fun.

  Mike


  On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:



Tony and all:

I was not ably to use the Chili Demons or any of the 50 or 60 dz. flies 
that I tied.
At the lodge the guides rig up your rods every day by making leaders and 
setting up a bobber and a 6 or 8mm bead.
That worked all day every day, and the reason is they tell you there are so 
many eggs floating down the rivers and that is all the trout key on.

The trip was the best fishing I have ever had despite loosing some big 
rainbows. I also caught a lot of big 'bows.

This really sounds demeaning, but when you got an 18 or 20" rainbow on, it 
was almost like you wish they would break off just so you have more time 
fighting 24 26 and 28" fish. I had fish break me off as i tried to lift my rod 
tip on many occasions.
One big one on the Battle River took the egg and just expoded down stream 
and all I could do was hold the rod up as high as I could. It was into the 
backing in a flash and then SNAP. The knot at the fly line broke. Didn't untie, 
just broke. The next day the pilot/guide saw a line way down stream and picked 
it up. Lo and behold there was a fish on it. He tried to bring it in hand over 
hand, but it broke him off to. It was my fly line from the day before.

I caught many 24 and 26 " rainbows and got to land a 29" on Sunday.
I was playing a rather large rainbow on Friday for about 20 minutes when we 
finally got him into some slack water. The guide was just about to jump out and 
net him when he decided he had enough of this silliness and turned and ran 
away. We both got some very good looks at him and he was well over 30".

On Saturday we fished the Swezack River(not sure about the spelling) in 
Katmai National Park for Silver Salmon. I thought big 'bows pulled hard. HA!!!
The second fish I fouled hooked in the tail..Holy Crap It was 
around 29-30" long and must have been extreemely agitated that I was pulling 
him the oposite way he wanted to go because he did not give up easily. Could 
not land him, but the guide did manage to get the hook out of his tail.

The fisrt day out I caught a 20" Grayling. The state record is 24" so I was 
very gratified.

Got to see many many bears. They seemd better at catching fish then me and 
the rest of the crew put together.
Thay could care less about us being 20-30 yards away. They just jumped 
right in the river and started knawing on Sockeye. one bear jumped in right 
across the river from me and chowed down a Sockeye, moved down about 30 yards 
and found another to his liking and then moved down about 70 yards and ate that 
one also, with out ever leaving the river. And he was in the swift 
current!! 

Good thing 'Fisherman' season wasn't open yet.LOL


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/



How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony










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  Aloha from Hawaii

  




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[VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[Mark Romero]

Thankx Wesyou hit the nail right on the head...and by the way, i 
have no problem with "the industry" doing what it has to do to 
survive...and to thrive for that matter. i just hate to see something as 
precious and spititual as fly fishing.constantly being treated in such a 
mundane way, as a sport. 

Fly fishing, (just as is "the music") is ABOUT, "the messege." When and if you 
hear certain people refere to "the music"...it is "the Messege" we are 
refering to. i've spent my entire life involved with the same exact thing, from 
within two worlds that are actually, one in the same. Jazz and fly 
fishingboth, are "About" the same exact thing. THE MESSEGE. And it is 
that, that needs exposure, attention, and sharing, so that more are inspired to 
take up the challange to solve the problems we have in so many area of our 
lives. Which brings us back to the subject at hand..young people. It is 
SO true that we have a very serious problem with a very large lack of replacing 
all the old farts like me with young blood. i do "Conclaves" all over the 
country, and you see the same thing everywhere. The average age of an 
attendee.is 50 something or older. That tells you all you need to know, 
bout how we are not doin' our job as good as we should be doin' it. Something 
is lacking in our ability to draw the yongsters to "the pursuit." And it's not 
just that they are intimidate by how "good" you need to be to catch a lotta 
fish. Or how expensive the "sport" is. There is something else missing. And i 
believe it is enough of us to take the time to show them what is really 
involved with fly fishing, BEYOND casting, reading water, presentation, knots, 
etc., etc., etc..THAT'S where the problem lies. We're bombarding them 
with information.all but the information they need to "understand" why 
we fish. And trust me.it's NOT called fishing, because we don't call it 
catching..you dig? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:09:53 -0700
Subject: [VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course
From: wada@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Interesting comments, Mark.  Here's my take.  


Obviously Orvis has built this elaborate fly-casting course to encourage rod 
sales and interest in fly fishing in consumers.  More power to the fly shops.  
The Mill District which is the area the fly casting course is in, is a 
restored, now commercial district, and they pitched in as well. We need money 
behind the effort to keep interest in fly fishing alive. 


Orvis is Orvis, and the Bend Orvis store has some very straight-on fly fishers 
on the staff.  The president of the Central Oregon Flyfishers works at the 
store part-time.  It's a very positive group of people, and it'd be fun to work 
at the store, in that respect.  There are also at least six flyshops in the 
general area, and their survival depends on the commerce of fly fishing.



On another note, I wish I were closer to a group of fly fishers who are 
basically young guys. I know they are out there, but the fly fishing clubs I 
see are comprised of a lot of folks around or past retirement age.  Sure a lot 
of you have seen the same thing.  We are not yet a dying breed.


So the challenge is how do you get young people interested in fly fishing?  I 
have tried mightily to interest my nephew (now age 16) in fly fishing.  But we 
are two hours flighttime apart from each other.  He liked to fish when he was 
younger, but the parents never got him out into the wilds much to wet a line.  
There are a lot of young people out there in similar straits.  If you don't 
plant the tree when the ground is fertile, it's a lot harder to grow a tree. 
For my nephew, the ground is getting less fertile by the day.


I feel (A.) you gotta get them out into the "wilds" and give them a nice 
fishing experience.  That's the hook.  (B.) The hoped for result, is they start 
to appreciate the natural beauty around them.  And with soft guidance, they 
start to preserve the flora and fauna that envelopes the fly fishing experience.


I thoroughly enjoyed Boy Scouts growing up in Colorado.  Enjoyed a lot of stuff 
that isn't like anything in the city. That alone created a deep appreciation of 
nature, inside me.  But how many kids you know these days, who are having a 
similar experience?  Not many. That's troubling.  Gotta do something about that.


Your mileage may differ...




Wes Wada
Bend, OR













On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mark Romero  wrote:


Pretty cool Wes...i read the entire article.and as we all should 
know by now, "Opinions are like , and everybody has one." So, for me 
that has always meant that we're all rightand in a sense, nobody is wrong. 
It's all in ones point of view. I'm refering of course, to fly fishing as a 
"sport." As someone who deals with it every day as a sport, in the sense that 
my wife is the Captain of an international team or 

[VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[Mark Romero]

please excuse an error.it's obviously not "whoever is taking over the 
chairman's seat" but, "whoever is leaving the chairman's seat"."stay on 
an extra year." sorry bout that.
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY 
TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:33:02 -0600



John, Whitefish was a rough one.attendance was at an all time low. Blame it 
on gas prices...blame it on the bossa nova. Bottom line is blame, is not 
the way to solve the problems. The way to solve the problems is to establish a 
MUCH better line of communication between membership and administration.and 
to insure transparency in decisions making. 
First of all, it is very hard just to get voluinteers to step up to the plate 
and take on the responsiblity of taking on the various jobs of making an event 
of that magnitude succeed. And once they do.they very often do not want to 
share decision making. That's understandable to a degree, but it must be done 
in spite of the hassels that accompany it. Nobody knows all the answers, and 
everyone has to be willing to listen to others opinions. 
When an event such as Conclave is over.there needs to be IMMEDIATE meetings 
to uncover problems and get set on a course of action to solve those problems. 
This is much easier said than done. It is well known that a fresh point of view 
and new imput is always needed to solve the burnout problem that always shows 
up when someone has been doing the same job year after year after year. But, as 
soon as you get fresh blood in there to take over, you also get inexperience. 
So it's a bit of a catch 22. 
The newest (or one of them) agreements made by the Tyers Group (which is now 
100% responsible for the "tyers" part of the conclave), for instance, is to 
have whoever is taking over the chairman's seat each time, stay on an extra 
year to help the new chairman do his job to the best of his ability. And the 
chairman of that committee is only going to be the chairman for a three year 
period from now on.hopefully eliminating burnout. His first year, he or she 
will have the help of the old chairman.then he will do two years on his own 
and then help his replacement for a year. i think it's a good new idea. 
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY 
TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:01:58 -0500







I didn’t make the conclave this year due to family issues, but I WAS @ the 
Conclave last year in Whitefish, MT. I thought it was very disorganized; had 
issues w/ registration online that required multiple phone calls, Mike 
volunteered for several things ahead of time but never received any 
correspondence in spite of e-mails & phone calls, we had an on the water class 
that not only had poor directions for the participants but the guides weren’t 
informed of where, when or how many were going to be there until we showed up. 
Volunteers for the silent auction were hit or miss & Lord only knows what the 
live auction would have been like if I hadn’t been there. I understand what  
non-profits & volunteer events are like, but I expected more. 
 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Romero
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:36 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE 
DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
 
Jeff, i appreciate your concern.but you need to know how things are. I get 
emails like this one below al the time. And trust me, i have been 
fighting for the FFF for years. I happen to have more than one VERY inside 
track on the inner workings of what goes on behind the scenes of the FFF 
National. I am a very serious supporter of the organization and have been for 
many years.but, i also stand for something more than just standing by and 
watching things go sour. Thank you very much. If you'd spent as much time as i 
have doing FFF conclaves all over the country, you'd know how disenchanted many 
members are.we ALL, need to do something about it. mark.now read 
below.
 



From: rick...@hotmail.com
To: markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS 
SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:03:36 -0600

Mark,
I think that the FFF Conclave was the worst organized event I've been to.  I 
was really disappointed in the lack of advertising they did for the conclave, 
not every many of my friends knew about it until after it was over.  My view is 
based on the fact that I didn't know if I had been accepted to tie until the 
Conclave was only a couple of weeks off.  

I know of fellow tiers that wanted to tie and had contacted the tying 
chairperson without getting a reply.  

[VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[Mark Romero]

John, Whitefish was a rough one.attendance was at an all time low. Blame it 
on gas prices...blame it on the bossa nova. Bottom line is blame, is not 
the way to solve the problems. The way to solve the problems is to establish a 
MUCH better line of communication between membership and administration.and 
to insure transparency in decisions making. 

First of all, it is very hard just to get voluinteers to step up to the plate 
and take on the responsiblity of taking on the various jobs of making an event 
of that magnitude succeed. And once they do.they very often do not want to 
share decision making. That's understandable to a degree, but it must be done 
in spite of the hassels that accompany it. Nobody knows all the answers, and 
everyone has to be willing to listen to others opinions. 

When an event such as Conclave is over.there needs to be IMMEDIATE meetings 
to uncover problems and get set on a course of action to solve those problems. 
This is much easier said than done. It is well known that a fresh point of view 
and new imput is always needed to solve the burnout problem that always shows 
up when someone has been doing the same job year after year after year. But, as 
soon as you get fresh blood in there to take over, you also get inexperience. 
So it's a bit of a catch 22. 

The newest (or one of them) agreements made by the Tyers Group (which is now 
100% responsible for the "tyers" part of the conclave), for instance, is to 
have whoever is taking over the chairman's seat each time, stay on an extra 
year to help the new chairman do his job to the best of his ability. And the 
chairman of that committee is only going to be the chairman for a three year 
period from now on.hopefully eliminating burnout. His first year, he or she 
will have the help of the old chairman.then he will do two years on his own 
and then help his replacement for a year. i think it's a good new idea. 
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY 
TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:01:58 -0500







I didn’t make the conclave this year due to family issues, but I WAS @ the 
Conclave last year in Whitefish, MT. I thought it was very disorganized; had 
issues w/ registration online that required multiple phone calls, Mike 
volunteered for several things ahead of time but never received any 
correspondence in spite of e-mails & phone calls, we had an on the water class 
that not only had poor directions for the participants but the guides weren’t 
informed of where, when or how many were going to be there until we showed up. 
Volunteers for the silent auction were hit or miss & Lord only knows what the 
live auction would have been like if I hadn’t been there. I understand what  
non-profits & volunteer events are like, but I expected more. 
 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Romero
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:36 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE 
DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
 
Jeff, i appreciate your concern.but you need to know how things are. I get 
emails like this one below al the time. And trust me, i have been 
fighting for the FFF for years. I happen to have more than one VERY inside 
track on the inner workings of what goes on behind the scenes of the FFF 
National. I am a very serious supporter of the organization and have been for 
many years.but, i also stand for something more than just standing by and 
watching things go sour. Thank you very much. If you'd spent as much time as i 
have doing FFF conclaves all over the country, you'd know how disenchanted many 
members are.we ALL, need to do something about it. mark.now read 
below.
 



From: rick...@hotmail.com
To: markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS 
SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:03:36 -0600

Mark,
I think that the FFF Conclave was the worst organized event I've been to.  I 
was really disappointed in the lack of advertising they did for the conclave, 
not every many of my friends knew about it until after it was over.  My view is 
based on the fact that I didn't know if I had been accepted to tie until the 
Conclave was only a couple of weeks off.  

I know of fellow tiers that wanted to tie and had contacted the tying 
chairperson without getting a reply.  In another instance, my friend was told 
to show up and they'd see there was room.  I saw many spaces left open.

We were told that the tiers could join the FFF for a reduced rate and when I 
went to join up the two individuals manning the desk were busy talking to each 
other and did not bother to wait on me.  This happened twice.  I used to think 
that this was a well organized organization...not any more.

[VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[J Balmer]

I have to agree w/ Mark for the most part. I used to fish in bass
tournaments,  it was fun for a while. I've always been competitive & I still
am, even when fly fishing, but @ some point it gets to be something other
than fun. Some competitions are good for PR & raising money for
conservation, but when it gets to be an elitist event for people who want to
compare price tags, you can count me out.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Romero
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:30 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

 

Pretty cool Wes...i read the entire article.and as we all should
know by now, "Opinions are like , and everybody has one." So, for me
that has always meant that we're all rightand in a sense, nobody is
wrong. It's all in ones point of view. I'm refering of course, to fly
fishing as a "sport." As someone who deals with it every day as a sport, in
the sense that my wife is the Captain of an international team or two,
("competetive fly fishing"), and because i know many who are involved with
competitive fly fishing.i have to give them their propers as
sportsman...but also, as someone who actually see's fly fishing as
something that absolutely has nothing to do with "Sport," i also think that
until we go FAR beyond looking at it in just such a simple minded
way...we will remain in trouble, in terms of rising the consciousness of
those who need to help us, and have the power to help us do the things we
need to do, to insure that the "habitat" is saved for future generations. As
long as fly fishing is deleniated as just a "sport," and not totally
understood as the much deeper thing it really is..we will not gain the
political clout we need to impower ourselves to truely be able to save the
wild places we need to insure, for the futrue of "the sport." And as long as
the "industry" is more concerned with "promoting the sport, and selling
rods".anglers will continue to see their weekends as something so
precious, they need to spend them ALL fishing, instead of doing stream work
or planting trees. Greed begets greed Bro. i've watched this me me me me me
me atitude perpetuate itself for years amoung fly fishers. And the only
thing they can talk about in the bar at the end of the day, is size and
numbers.bores the hell out of me. You never hear them
talkin' bout the rip rap or riparian work they just completed along a
stream. Or how many vibert boxes they just got installed into the strem bed
for rearing young trout. It's all, check out my new $800 rodboring
Bro. Highly BORING. i guess it's just me.but i don't see much of a
future for our steams and rivers if fly fishing is going to be continuely
looked at, as just a sport...i don't think that enough caring
individualls will be inspired to do the work that needs to be done if that's
as shallow as it's going to remain. There simply isn't enough time
left..you dig?
 
 

  _  

Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:39:41 -0700
Subject: [VFB] Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course
From: w...@wadaworks.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

.

I will be doing this Thursday for the first time with friend Steve.  It's an
18-"hole" deal.

 

http://tinyurl.com/kokwq5 

 

Last weekend Orvis sponsored a Pro-Am tournament with a bunch of neat
prizes.  I was not in town, so couldn't participate, but will at least check
it out on Thursday evening.  I have seen a couple of the casting areas, but
never have seen or casted the entire course.

 

 

Wes Wada

Bend, Oregon


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[VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[Wes Wada]

Interesting comments, Mark.  Here's my take.
Obviously Orvis has built this elaborate fly-casting course to encourage rod
sales and interest in fly fishing in consumers.  More power to the fly
shops.  The Mill District which is the area the fly casting course is in, is
a restored, now commercial district, and they pitched in as well. We need
money behind the effort to keep interest in fly fishing alive.
Orvis is Orvis, and the Bend Orvis store has some very straight-on fly
fishers on the staff.  The president of the Central Oregon Flyfishers works
at the store part-time.  It's a very positive group of people, and it'd be
fun to work at the store, in that respect.  There are also at least six
flyshops in the general area, and their survival depends on the commerce of
fly fishing.

On another note, I wish I were closer to a group of fly fishers who are
basically young guys. I know they are out there, but the fly fishing clubs I
see are comprised of a lot of folks around or past retirement age.  Sure a
lot of you have seen the same thing.  We are not yet a dying breed.

So the challenge is how do you get young people interested in fly fishing?
 I have tried mightily to interest my nephew (now age 16) in fly fishing.
 But we are two hours flighttime apart from each other.  He liked to fish
when he was younger, but the parents never got him out into the wilds much
to wet a line.  There are a lot of young people out there in similar
straits.  If you don't plant the tree when the ground is fertile, it's a lot
harder to grow a tree. For my nephew, the ground is getting less fertile by
the day.

I feel (A.) you gotta get them out into the "wilds" and give them a nice
fishing experience.  That's the hook.  (B.) The hoped for result, is they
start to appreciate the natural beauty around them.  And with soft guidance,
they start to preserve the flora and fauna that envelopes the fly fishing
experience.

I thoroughly enjoyed Boy Scouts growing up in Colorado.  Enjoyed a lot of
stuff that isn't like anything in the city. That alone created a deep
appreciation of nature, inside me.  But how many kids you know these days,
who are having a similar experience?  Not many. That's troubling.  Gotta do
something about that.

Your mileage may differ...


Wes Wada
Bend, OR







On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mark Romero wrote:

>  Pretty cool Wes...i read the entire article.and as we all
> should know by now, "Opinions are like , and everybody has one." So,
> for me that has always meant that we're all rightand in a sense, nobody
> is wrong. It's all in ones point of view. I'm refering of course, to fly
> fishing as a "sport." As someone who deals with it every day as a sport, in
> the sense that my wife is the Captain of an international team or two,
> ("competetive fly fishing"), and because i know many who are involved with
> competitive fly fishing.i have to give them their propers as
> sportsman...but also, as someone who actually see's fly fishing as
> something that absolutely has nothing to do with "Sport," i also think that
> until we go FAR beyond looking at it in just such a simple minded
> way...we will remain in trouble, in terms of rising the consciousness of
> those who need to help us, and have the power to help us do the things we
> need to do, to insure that the "habitat" is saved for future generations. As
> long as fly fishing is deleniated as just a "sport," and not totally
> understood as the much deeper thing it really is..we will not gain the
> political clout we need to impower ourselves to truely be able to save the
> wild places we need to insure, for the futrue of "the sport." And as long as
> the "industry" is more concerned with "promoting the sport, and selling
> rods".anglers will continue to see their weekends as something so
> precious, they need to spend them ALL fishing, instead of doing stream work
> or planting trees. Greed begets greed Bro. i've watched this me me me me me
> me atitude perpetuate itself for years amoung fly fishers. And the only
> thing they can talk about in the bar at the end of the day, is size and
> numbers.bores the hell out of me. You never hear them
> talkin' bout the rip rap or riparian work they just completed along a
> stream. Or how many vibert boxes they just got installed into the strem bed
> for rearing young trout. It's all, check out my new $800 rodboring
> Bro. Highly BORING. i guess it's just me.but i don't see much of a
> future for our steams and rivers if fly fishing is going to be continuely
> looked at, as just a sport...i don't think that enough caring
> individualls will be inspired to do the work that needs to be done if that's
> as shallow as it's going to remain. There simply isn't enough time
> left..you dig?
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:39:41 -0700
> Subject: [VFB] Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting C

[VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[J Balmer]

I didn't make the conclave this year due to family issues, but I WAS @ the
Conclave last year in Whitefish, MT. I thought it was very disorganized; had
issues w/ registration online that required multiple phone calls, Mike
volunteered for several things ahead of time but never received any
correspondence in spite of e-mails & phone calls, we had an on the water
class that not only had poor directions for the participants but the guides
weren't informed of where, when or how many were going to be there until we
showed up. Volunteers for the silent auction were hit or miss & Lord only
knows what the live auction would have been like if I hadn't been there. I
understand what  non-profits & volunteer events are like, but I expected
more. 

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Romero
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:36 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY
TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

 

Jeff, i appreciate your concern.but you need to know how things are. I
get emails like this one below al the time. And trust me, i have
been fighting for the FFF for years. I happen to have more than one VERY
inside track on the inner workings of what goes on behind the scenes of the
FFF National. I am a very serious supporter of the organization and have
been for many years.but, i also stand for something more than just
standing by and watching things go sour. Thank you very much. If you'd spent
as much time as i have doing FFF conclaves all over the country, you'd know
how disenchanted many members are.we ALL, need to do something about it.
mark.now read below.
 
 

  _  

From: rick...@hotmail.com
To: markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE
DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:03:36 -0600

Mark,
I think that the FFF Conclave was the worst organized event I've been to.  I
was really disappointed in the lack of advertising they did for the
conclave, not every many of my friends knew about it until after it was
over.  My view is based on the fact that I didn't know if I had been
accepted to tie until the Conclave was only a couple of weeks off.  

I know of fellow tiers that wanted to tie and had contacted the tying
chairperson without getting a reply.  In another instance, my friend was
told to show up and they'd see there was room.  I saw many spaces left open.

We were told that the tiers could join the FFF for a reduced rate and when I
went to join up the two individuals manning the desk were busy talking to
each other and did not bother to wait on me.  This happened twice.  I used
to think that this was a well organized organization...not any more.  I
think they are a bunch of "Rich Good Ole Boys" and am not interested in
being a part of the FFF.

On a personal note, I was very interested in your tying demonstration.  I
really did enjoy meeting and viewing several of the fly tiers.  I was
saddened to hear of Matt's passing, I was looking forward to developing a
friendship with him. 

 Are you located in Denver? If so would you be interested in coming to Fort
Collins to do a tying demo at Angler's Roost.  Please let me know either
way.

Best regards,
Rick Takahashi

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Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE
DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:16:21 -0600

My wife (Misako Ishimura), and i joined the FFF in 1994 i believe it
was..we have both 

[VFB] Re: Alaska Trip

[Michael Bliss]

Alan,

The trip sounds absolutlely incredible.  I agree on the salmon.  I thought
catching sockeye was an absolute rush.   I am envious of you.  Glad it was
fun.

Mike

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

>
>
> Tony and all:
>
> I was not ably to use the Chili Demons or any of the 50 or 60 dz. flies
> that I tied.
> At the lodge the guides rig up your rods every day by making leaders and
> setting up a bobber and a 6 or 8mm bead.
> That worked all day every day, and the reason is they tell you there are so
> many eggs floating down the rivers and that is all the trout key on.
>
> The trip was the best fishing I have ever had despite loosing some big
> rainbows. I also caught a lot of big 'bows.
>
> This really sounds demeaning, but when you got an 18 or 20" rainbow on, it
> was almost like you wish they would break off just so you have more time
> fighting 24 26 and 28" fish. I had fish break me off as i tried to lift my
> rod tip on many occasions.
> One big one on the Battle River took the egg and just expoded down stream
> and all I could do was hold the rod up as high as I could. It was into the
> backing in a flash and then SNAP. The knot at the fly line broke. Didn't
> untie, just broke. The next day the pilot/guide saw a line way down stream
> and picked it up. Lo and behold there was a fish on it. He tried to bring it
> in hand over hand, but it broke him off to. It was my fly line from the day
> before.
>
> I caught many 24 and 26 " rainbows and got to land a 29" on Sunday.
> I was playing a rather large rainbow on Friday for about 20 minutes when we
> finally got him into some slack water. The guide was just about to jump out
> and net him when he decided he had enough of this silliness and turned and
> ran away. We both got some very good looks at him and he was well over 30".
>
> On Saturday we fished the Swezack River(not sure about the spelling) in
> Katmai National Park for Silver Salmon. I thought big 'bows pulled hard.
> HA!!!
> The second fish I fouled hooked in the tail..Holy Crap It was
> around 29-30" long and must have been extreemely agitated that I was pulling
> him the oposite way he wanted to go because he did not give up easily. Could
> not land him, but the guide did manage to get the hook out of his tail.
>
> The fisrt day out I caught a 20" Grayling. The state record is 24" so I was
> very gratified.
>
> Got to see many many bears. They seemd better at catching fish then me and
> the rest of the crew put together.
> Thay could care less about us being 20-30 yards away. They just jumped
> right in the river and started knawing on Sockeye. one bear jumped in right
> across the river from me and chowed down a Sockeye, moved down about 30
> yards and found another to his liking and then moved down about 70 yards and
> ate that one also, with out ever leaving the river. And he was in the swift
> current!!
>
> Good thing 'Fisherman' season wasn't open yet.LOL
>
>
> Thank you,
> Alan Di Somma
>
> Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
>
> http://www.azflyfishing.net/
>
>
>
> How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
> Tony
>
> >
>
>


-- 
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[VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[Mark Romero]

Pretty cool Wes...i read the entire article.and as we all should 
know by now, "Opinions are like , and everybody has one." So, for me 
that has always meant that we're all rightand in a sense, nobody is wrong. 
It's all in ones point of view. I'm refering of course, to fly fishing as a 
"sport." As someone who deals with it every day as a sport, in the sense that 
my wife is the Captain of an international team or two, ("competetive fly 
fishing"), and because i know many who are involved with competitive fly 
fishing.i have to give them their propers as sportsman...but also, 
as someone who actually see's fly fishing as something that absolutely has 
nothing to do with "Sport," i also think that until we go FAR beyond looking at 
it in just such a simple minded way...we will remain in trouble, in terms 
of rising the consciousness of those who need to help us, and have the power to 
help us do the things we need to do, to insure that the "habitat" is saved for 
future generations. As long as fly fishing is deleniated as just a "sport," and 
not totally understood as the much deeper thing it really is..we will not 
gain the political clout we need to impower ourselves to truely be able to save 
the wild places we need to insure, for the futrue of "the sport." And as long 
as the "industry" is more concerned with "promoting the sport, and selling 
rods".anglers will continue to see their weekends as something so precious, 
they need to spend them ALL fishing, instead of doing stream work or planting 
trees. Greed begets greed Bro. i've watched this me me me me me me atitude 
perpetuate itself for years amoung fly fishers. And the only thing they can 
talk about in the bar at the end of the day, is size and 
numbers.bores the hell out of me. You never hear them talkin' 
bout the rip rap or riparian work they just completed along a stream. Or how 
many vibert boxes they just got installed into the strem bed for rearing young 
trout. It's all, check out my new $800 rodboring Bro. Highly BORING. i 
guess it's just me.but i don't see much of a future for our steams and 
rivers if fly fishing is going to be continuely looked at, as just a 
sport...i don't think that enough caring individualls will be inspired to 
do the work that needs to be done if that's as shallow as it's going to remain. 
There simply isn't enough time left..you dig? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:39:41 -0700
Subject: [VFB] Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course
From: w...@wadaworks.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


.
I will be doing this Thursday for the first time with friend Steve.  It's an 
18-"hole" deal.

http://tinyurl.com/kokwq5


Last weekend Orvis sponsored a Pro-Am tournament with a bunch of neat prizes.  
I was not in town, so couldn't participate, but will at least check it out on 
Thursday evening.  I have seen a couple of the casting areas, but never have 
seen or casted the entire course.




Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon


  
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[VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed

[Mark Romero]

live and learn Alan..next time...no kids, lmao. mark.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:46:51 -0700




I remember being on Rt 17 many times but just can't remember Ramsey's.  At that 
time I was barely scraping by and could not afford to buy much tackle. Too many 
kids and not enough time to go fishing.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:35 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed

Tony, it was me, who asked you the questionnot Alan. .i was just 
curious as to wether or not when you think of the Hackensack River.you 
might also think of Ramsey's.? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:56:50 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Yes I sure do, It still is on old RT 17. Spent some dollars there too. My buddy 
that started me in all of this in 1945 has tied there as a demo tyer. We still 
stay in touch.
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:10 PM




Tony, do you remember a sporting goods store called Ramsey's Outdoors in 
Paramus? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:12:45 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM




Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700




Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
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> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's th

[VFB] Re: Alaska Trip

[Mark Romero]

...really glad you had a good time Alan...which is another 
reason i never said anthing that whole time you were tryin' to figure out what 
to tye and the tyin' up all them flies...i "Knew" the guides would do 
that to ya. and you "Could" of insisted on usin' those flies..you 
brought...but you would of regreted it..the guides know what 
they're doin'. 
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Alaska Trip
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:44:38 -0700




 
 
Tony and all:
 
I was not ably to use the Chili Demons or any of the 50 or 60 dz. flies that I 
tied.
At the lodge the guides rig up your rods every day by making leaders and 
setting up a bobber and a 6 or 8mm bead.
That worked all day every day, and the reason is they tell you there are so 
many eggs floating down the rivers and that is all the trout key on.
 
The trip was the best fishing I have ever had despite loosing some big 
rainbows. I also caught a lot of big 'bows.
 
This really sounds demeaning, but when you got an 18 or 20" rainbow on, it was 
almost like you wish they would break off just so you have more time fighting 
24 26 and 28" fish. I had fish break me off as i tried to lift my rod tip on 
many occasions.
One big one on the Battle River took the egg and just expoded down stream and 
all I could do was hold the rod up as high as I could. It was into the backing 
in a flash and then SNAP. The knot at the fly line broke. Didn't untie, just 
broke. The next day the pilot/guide saw a line way down stream and picked it 
up. Lo and behold there was a fish on it. He tried to bring it in hand over 
hand, but it broke him off to. It was my fly line from the day before.
 
I caught many 24 and 26 " rainbows and got to land a 29" on Sunday.
I was playing a rather large rainbow on Friday for about 20 minutes when we 
finally got him into some slack water. The guide was just about to jump out and 
net him when he decided he had enough of this silliness and turned and ran 
away. We both got some very good looks at him and he was well over 30".
 
On Saturday we fished the Swezack River(not sure about the spelling) in Katmai 
National Park for Silver Salmon. I thought big 'bows pulled hard. HA!!!
The second fish I fouled hooked in the tail..Holy Crap It was around 
29-30" long and must have been extreemely agitated that I was pulling him the 
oposite way he wanted to go because he did not give up easily. Could not land 
him, but the guide did manage to get the hook out of his tail.
 
The fisrt day out I caught a 20" Grayling. The state record is 24" so I was 
very gratified.
 
Got to see many many bears. They seemd better at catching fish then me and the 
rest of the crew put together.
Thay could care less about us being 20-30 yards away. They just jumped right in 
the river and started knawing on Sockeye. one bear jumped in right across the 
river from me and chowed down a Sockeye, moved down about 30 yards and found 
another to his liking and then moved down about 70 yards and ate that one also, 
with out ever leaving the river. And he was in the swift current!! 
 
Good thing 'Fisherman' season wasn't open yet.LOL
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/
 
 
 
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony


  
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[VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed

[Alan Di Somma]

I remember being on Rt 17 many times but just can't remember Ramsey's.  At that 
time I was barely scraping by and could not afford to buy much tackle. Too many 
kids and not enough time to go fishing.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:35 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed


  Tony, it was me, who asked you the questionnot Alan. .i was just 
curious as to wether or not when you think of the Hackensack River.you 
might also think of Ramsey's.? 
   

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  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:56:50 -0700
  From: bambot...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Yes I sure do, It still is on old RT 17. Spent some dollars there too. 
My buddy that started me in all of this in 1945 has tied there as a demo tyer. 
We still stay in touch.
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


  From: Mark Romero 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  To: "virtual fly box" 
  Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:10 PM


  Tony, do you remember a sporting goods store called Ramsey's Outdoors 
in Paramus? 
   

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  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:12:45 -0700
  From: bambot...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com

Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  
wrote:


  From: Mark Romero 
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  To: "virtual fly box" 
  Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM


  Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not 
a bad river to fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own 
Riverkeeper, and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an 
economic windfall for the area.
   

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  From: phxflyt...@cox.net
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700


  Tony:

  I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
  I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends 
and stay there.
  That place had a smell all it own also.


  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands 
when we used to call it " Secaucus Swamp"

There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just 
about know you over.

They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


  i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as 
possible. One of my favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on 
the way to Montana. Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after 
having left that morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming 
from maybe somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days 
are over though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
  The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in 
the Meadowlands (N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
   
  > Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > From: glw...@gundluth.org
  > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
  > 
  

[VFB] Alaska Trip

[Alan Di Somma]

Tony and all:

I was not ably to use the Chili Demons or any of the 50 or 60 dz. flies that I 
tied.
At the lodge the guides rig up your rods every day by making leaders and 
setting up a bobber and a 6 or 8mm bead.
That worked all day every day, and the reason is they tell you there are so 
many eggs floating down the rivers and that is all the trout key on.

The trip was the best fishing I have ever had despite loosing some big 
rainbows. I also caught a lot of big 'bows.

This really sounds demeaning, but when you got an 18 or 20" rainbow on, it was 
almost like you wish they would break off just so you have more time fighting 
24 26 and 28" fish. I had fish break me off as i tried to lift my rod tip on 
many occasions.
One big one on the Battle River took the egg and just expoded down stream and 
all I could do was hold the rod up as high as I could. It was into the backing 
in a flash and then SNAP. The knot at the fly line broke. Didn't untie, just 
broke. The next day the pilot/guide saw a line way down stream and picked it 
up. Lo and behold there was a fish on it. He tried to bring it in hand over 
hand, but it broke him off to. It was my fly line from the day before.

I caught many 24 and 26 " rainbows and got to land a 29" on Sunday.
I was playing a rather large rainbow on Friday for about 20 minutes when we 
finally got him into some slack water. The guide was just about to jump out and 
net him when he decided he had enough of this silliness and turned and ran 
away. We both got some very good looks at him and he was well over 30".

On Saturday we fished the Swezack River(not sure about the spelling) in Katmai 
National Park for Silver Salmon. I thought big 'bows pulled hard. HA!!!
The second fish I fouled hooked in the tail..Holy Crap It was around 
29-30" long and must have been extreemely agitated that I was pulling him the 
oposite way he wanted to go because he did not give up easily. Could not land 
him, but the guide did manage to get the hook out of his tail.

The fisrt day out I caught a 20" Grayling. The state record is 24" so I was 
very gratified.

Got to see many many bears. They seemd better at catching fish then me and the 
rest of the crew put together.
Thay could care less about us being 20-30 yards away. They just jumped right in 
the river and started knawing on Sockeye. one bear jumped in right across the 
river from me and chowed down a Sockeye, moved down about 30 yards and found 
another to his liking and then moved down about 70 yards and ate that one also, 
with out ever leaving the river. And he was in the swift current!! 

Good thing 'Fisherman' season wasn't open yet.LOL


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/



How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony
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[VFB] Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course

[Wes Wada]

.
I will be doing this Thursday for the first time with friend Steve.  It's an
18-"hole" deal.

http://tinyurl.com/kokwq5
Last weekend Orvis sponsored a Pro-Am tournament with a bunch of neat
prizes.  I was not in town, so couldn't participate, but will at least check
it out on Thursday evening.  I have seen a couple of the casting areas, but
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[VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed

[Mark Romero]

Tony, it was me, who asked you the questionnot Alan. .i was just 
curious as to wether or not when you think of the Hackensack River.you 
might also think of Ramsey's.? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:56:50 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Yes I sure do, It still is on old RT 17. Spent some dollars there too. My buddy 
that started me in all of this in 1945 has tied there as a demo tyer. We still 
stay in touch.
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:10 PM




Tony, do you remember a sporting goods store called Ramsey's Outdoors in 
Paramus? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:12:45 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM




Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700




Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
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[VFB] Re: Duh, Now changed

[Anthony Spezio]

Yes I sure do, It still is on old RT 17. Spent some dollars there too. My buddy 
that started me in all of this in 1945 has tied there as a demo tyer. We still 
stay in touch.
How did the Chili Demons do in Alaska. You might of not got to use them
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:

From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:10 PM




Tony, do you remember a sporting goods store called Ramsey's Outdoors in 
Paramus? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:12:45 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM




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Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700



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Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
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[VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[Mark Romero]

Jeff, i appreciate your concern.but you need to know how things are. I get 
emails like this one below al the time. And trust me, i have been 
fighting for the FFF for years. I happen to have more than one VERY inside 
track on the inner workings of what goes on behind the scenes of the FFF 
National. I am a very serious supporter of the organization and have been for 
many years.but, i also stand for something more than just standing by and 
watching things go sour. Thank you very much. If you'd spent as much time as i 
have doing FFF conclaves all over the country, you'd know how disenchanted many 
members are.we ALL, need to do something about it. mark.now read 
below.
 


From: rick...@hotmail.com
To: markflie...@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS 
SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:03:36 -0600



Mark,
I think that the FFF Conclave was the worst organized event I've been to.  I 
was really disappointed in the lack of advertising they did for the conclave, 
not every many of my friends knew about it until after it was over.  My view is 
based on the fact that I didn't know if I had been accepted to tie until the 
Conclave was only a couple of weeks off.  

I know of fellow tiers that wanted to tie and had contacted the tying 
chairperson without getting a reply.  In another instance, my friend was told 
to show up and they'd see there was room.  I saw many spaces left open.

We were told that the tiers could join the FFF for a reduced rate and when I 
went to join up the two individuals manning the desk were busy talking to each 
other and did not bother to wait on me.  This happened twice.  I used to think 
that this was a well organized organization...not any more.  I think they are a 
bunch of "Rich Good Ole Boys" and am not interested in being a part of the FFF.

On a personal note, I was very interested in your tying demonstration.  I 
really did enjoy meeting and viewing several of the fly tiers.  I was saddened 
to hear of Matt's passing, I was looking forward to developing a friendship 
with him. 

 Are you located in Denver? If so would you be interested in coming to Fort 
Collins to do a tying demo at Angler's Roost.  Please let me know either way.

Best regards,
Rick Takahashi



From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: kenra...@msn.com; al...@larsonfineimaging.com; al...@aol.com; 
ew...@msn.com; cronin...@aol.com; rjames...@aol.com; bobwire...@msn.com; 
byagn...@q.com; martinez...@comcast.net; elkkil...@comcast.net; 
ct...@templelaw.comcastbiz.net; ctc...@aol.com; dal...@q.com; adgf...@msn.com; 
dryo...@hotmail.com; dickv...@yahoo.com; jarm...@aol.com; ddgi...@ecentral.com; 
drussro...@comcast.net; dkgeer...@comcast.net; fco...@du.edu; 
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kenthigg...@comcast.net; kristinwe...@msn.com; drlouf...@hotmail.com; 
iceman...@millect.com; mahlonoz...@comcast.net; m...@jazzmarkgallery.com; 
mat2...@hotmail.com; neilwf...@aol.com; nsch...@pinnaclerea.com; 
pdwoller...@comcast.net; regp...@comcast.net; fly_fisher...@att.net; 
rhpisca...@aol.com; rick...@hotmail.com; macpo...@aol.com; 
sbarc...@slifersummit.com; sst...@comcast.net; mtnsha...@indra.com; 
st...@globalflyfisher.com; s...@coaldale-co.us; wzav...@aol.com; 
wmjrtheot...@aol.com; misakoflyf...@gmail.com; 
notice-reply-i7busbkrpw65...@ga-mail.action.wilderness.org; 
writbe...@yahoo.com; sa...@flytyingtools.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS 
SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:16:21 -0600



My wife (Misako Ishimura), and i joined the FFF in 1994 i believe it 
was..we have both since become Life Members.myself first and my wife 
later on. Misa is an FFF Certified Casting Instructor, and i have tyed at the 
International Conclave since 2002. She now also tyes, and at this most recent 
Conclave in Loveland, she taught a class on tying and fishing the Czech Nymphs 
along with Leslie Wrixon. Leslie was the head instructor for the tying portion 
of the class in the morning, amd Misa was the head instructor for the fishing 
part of the class in the afternoon and eve. The class was very successful.
We have been ardent and staunch supporters of the FFF every since we 
joined.but we have serious issues with any CEO who takes $90K a year of our 
money and an expense account, for a number of years, to basically do nothing to 
get the organization out of it's financial situation. We hope that a very 
serious lesson was learned by the FFF about hiring someone to do a job and 
paying them an absorbatant amount of money to get it done, only to watch it all 
squandered with no results. That type of behavior is exactly wha

[VFB] Re: FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[Jeff Frye]

Mark, I would encourage you to take a deep breath and gather some facts on the 
FFF deal and then proceed with the sharing of opinions.

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:

> From: Mark Romero 
> Subject: [VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE 
> DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
> To: "virtual fly box" 
> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:37 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> thoughts.
>  
> 
> 
> From: markflie...@hotmail.com
> To: kenra...@msn.com; al...@larsonfineimaging.com;
> al...@aol.com; ew...@msn.com; cronin...@aol..com;
> rjames...@aol.com; bobwire...@msn.com; byagn...@q.com;
> martinez...@comcast.net; elkkil...@comcast.net;
> ct...@templelaw.comcastbiz.net; ctc...@aol.com;
> dal...@q.com; adgf...@msn.com; dryo...@hotmail.com;
> dickv...@yahoo.com; jarm...@aol.com; ddgi...@ecentral.com;
> drussro...@comcast.net; dkgeer...@comcast.net;
> fco...@du.edu; g.roth...@comcast.net; naf...@mtintouch.net;
> southplattej...@comcast.net; hat...@aol.com;
> jerryeuba...@comcast.net; rnager1...@aol.com;
> jjharco...@msn.com; jhk...@earthlink.net;
> jarvi...@comcast.net; j_wal...@msn.com;
> judy.bax...@uchsc.edu; kkoprow...@mcgeadysisneros.com;
> kenthigg...@comcast..net; kristinwe...@msn.com;
> drlouf...@hotmail.com; iceman...@millect.com;
> mahlonoz...@comcast.net; m...@jazzmarkgallery.com;
> mat2...@hotmail.com; neilwf...@aol.com;
> nsch...@pinnaclerea.com; pdwoller...@comcast..net;
> regp...@comcast.net; fly_fisher...@att.net;
> rhpisca...@aol.com; rick...@hotmail.com; macpo...@aol.com;
> sbarc...@slifersummit.com; sst...@comcast.net;
> mtnsha...@indra.com; st...@globalflyfisher.com;
> s...@coaldale-co.us; wzav...@aol.com; wmjrtheot...@aol.com;
> misakoflyf...@gmail.com;
> notice-reply-i7busbkrpw65...@ga-mail.action.wilderness.org;
> writbe...@yahoo.com; sa...@flytyingtools.com
> Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS,
> THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:16:21 -0600
> 
> 
> 
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> {padding:0px;}
> #yiv291365206 .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage
> {font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}
> 
> My wife (Misako Ishimura), and i joined the FFF in 1994 i
> believe it was..we have both since become Life
> Members.myself first and my wife later
> on. Misa is an FFF Certified Casting Instructor, and i
> have tyed at the International Conclave since 2002. She now
> also tyes, and at this most recent Conclave in
> Loveland, she taught a class on tying and fishing the Czech
> Nymphs along with Leslie Wrixon. Leslie was the head
> instructor for the tying portion of the class in the
> morning, and Misa was the head instructor for the fishing
> part of the class in the afternoon and eve. The class was
> very successful.
> We have been ardent and staunch supporters of the FFF every
> since we joined.but we have serious issues with any
> CEO who takes $90K a year of our money and an
> expense account, for a number of years, to basically do
> nothing to get the organization out of it's financial
> situation. We hope that a very serious lesson was learned by
> the FFF about hiring someone to do a job and paying them an
> absorbatant amount of money to get it done, only to watch it
> all squandered with no results. That type of behavior is
> exactly what will loose the organization membership,
> ten-fold. People are not stupid, and they do not like being
> taken advantage of. They want to help the resource and the
> habitat thereof.not support CEO's that fly all over
> the country at the memberships expense to play golf, or take
> their wives shopping. Which is not to say that that is what
> was happening.but from the things you hear on the
> grapevine.one begins to think that anything is possible.
> Do not misunderstand, all i am saying is that we need to be
> MUCH more prudent as to where are money is going and how it
> is being spent. Yes, OUR money. If the FFF is to grown and
> prosper, it needs to be held to a much higher standard and
> made to be held accountable. Not for profits have a way of
> getting out of control at times, by putting the needs of
> it's board before the needs of the cause for which they
> stand. The office staff and administrative people must be
> paid. But i wouldnt mind seeing an all volunteer board at
> all. Or perhaps a board made up of those who would actually
> be required to pay, to be on the board. That, just
> might keep the playing field even. Just my two cents. 
>  
> 
> 
> From: kenra...@msn.com
> To: al...@larsonfineimaging.com; al...@aol.com;
> ew...@msn.com; cronin...@aol.com; rjames...@aol.com;
> bobwire...@msn.com; byagn...@q.com; martinez...@comcast.net;
> elkkil...@comcast.net; ct...@templelaw.comcastbiz.net;
> ctc...@aol.com; dal...@q.com; adgf...@msn.com;
> dryo...@hotmail.com; dickv...@yahoo.com; jarm...@aol.com;
> ddgi...@ecentral.com; drussro...@comcast.net;
> dkgeer...@comcast.net; fco...@du.edu; g.roth...@comcast.net;
> naf.

[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

Tony, do you remember a sporting goods store called Ramsey's Outdoors in 
Paramus? 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:12:45 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:


From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM




Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700




Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Alan Di Somma]

That is amazing, but very gratifying. At least I am glad to know that the high 
property taxes that I was paying for so many years have done some good.LOL


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 3:31 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


  Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
   

--
  From: phxflyt...@cox.net
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700


  Tony:

  I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
  I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
  That place had a smell all it own also.


  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to 
call it " Secaucus Swamp"

There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.

They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


  i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
  The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands 
(N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
   
  > Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > From: glw...@gundluth.org
  > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
  > 
  > 
  > I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du 
Chein,
  > WI. It's not one of their biggest
  > stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
  > you've seen something in one of their
  > catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved 
from
  > the warehouses. Usually takes
  > 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
  > a beautiful drive is along the
  > Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
  > and several eagles. Now that
  > I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
  > 
  > Gary Webb
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Mark Romero 
  >  ail.com> To 
  > Sent by: virtual fly box 
  > vfb-m...@googlegr  
  > oups.com cc 
  > 
  > Subject 
  > 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
  > PM this thing? 
  > 
  > 
  > Please respond to 
  > vfb-m...@googlegr 
  > oups.com 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but 
the
  > one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
  > home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of 
their
  > regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all 
this
  > weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour 
away
  > from eachother.
  > But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out 
Cabela's.
  > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en

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[VFB] FW: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF

[Mark Romero]

thoughts.
 


From: markflie...@hotmail.com
To: kenra...@msn.com; al...@larsonfineimaging.com; al...@aol.com; 
ew...@msn.com; cronin...@aol.com; rjames...@aol.com; bobwire...@msn.com; 
byagn...@q.com; martinez...@comcast.net; elkkil...@comcast.net; 
ct...@templelaw.comcastbiz.net; ctc...@aol.com; dal...@q.com; adgf...@msn.com; 
dryo...@hotmail.com; dickv...@yahoo.com; jarm...@aol.com; ddgi...@ecentral.com; 
drussro...@comcast.net; dkgeer...@comcast.net; fco...@du.edu; 
g.roth...@comcast.net; naf...@mtintouch.net; southplattej...@comcast.net; 
hat...@aol.com; jerryeuba...@comcast.net; rnager1...@aol.com; 
jjharco...@msn.com; jhk...@earthlink.net; jarvi...@comcast.net; 
j_wal...@msn.com; judy.bax...@uchsc.edu; kkoprow...@mcgeadysisneros.com; 
kenthigg...@comcast.net; kristinwe...@msn.com; drlouf...@hotmail.com; 
iceman...@millect.com; mahlonoz...@comcast.net; m...@jazzmarkgallery.com; 
mat2...@hotmail.com; neilwf...@aol.com; nsch...@pinnaclerea.com; 
pdwoller...@comcast.net; regp...@comcast.net; fly_fisher...@att.net; 
rhpisca...@aol.com; rick...@hotmail.com; macpo...@aol.com; 
sbarc...@slifersummit.com; sst...@comcast.net; mtnsha...@indra.com; 
st...@globalflyfisher.com; s...@coaldale-co.us; wzav...@aol.com; 
wmjrtheot...@aol.com; misakoflyf...@gmail.com; 
notice-reply-i7busbkrpw65...@ga-mail.action.wilderness.org; 
writbe...@yahoo.com; sa...@flytyingtools.com
Subject: RE: WHATS HAPPENING WITH THE FLY FISHING SHOWS, THE FLY TACKLE DEALERS 
SHOW (AFFTA) AND THE FFF
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:16:21 -0600



My wife (Misako Ishimura), and i joined the FFF in 1994 i believe it 
was..we have both since become Life Members.myself first and my wife 
later on. Misa is an FFF Certified Casting Instructor, and i have tyed at the 
International Conclave since 2002. She now also tyes, and at this most recent 
Conclave in Loveland, she taught a class on tying and fishing the Czech Nymphs 
along with Leslie Wrixon. Leslie was the head instructor for the tying portion 
of the class in the morning, and Misa was the head instructor for the fishing 
part of the class in the afternoon and eve. The class was very successful.
We have been ardent and staunch supporters of the FFF every since we 
joined.but we have serious issues with any CEO who takes $90K a year of our 
money and an expense account, for a number of years, to basically do nothing to 
get the organization out of it's financial situation. We hope that a very 
serious lesson was learned by the FFF about hiring someone to do a job and 
paying them an absorbatant amount of money to get it done, only to watch it all 
squandered with no results. That type of behavior is exactly what will loose 
the organization membership, ten-fold. People are not stupid, and they do not 
like being taken advantage of. They want to help the resource and the habitat 
thereof.not support CEO's that fly all over the country at the memberships 
expense to play golf, or take their wives shopping. Which is not to say that 
that is what was happening.but from the things you hear on the 
grapevine.one begins to think that anything is possible. Do not 
misunderstand, all i am saying is that we need to be MUCH more prudent as to 
where are money is going and how it is being spent. Yes, OUR money. If the FFF 
is to grown and prosper, it needs to be held to a much higher standard and made 
to be held accountable. Not for profits have a way of getting out of control at 
times, by putting the needs of it's board before the needs of the cause for 
which they stand. The office staff and administrative people must be paid. But 
i wouldnt mind seeing an all volunteer board at all. Or perhaps a board made up 
of those who would actually be required to pay, to be on the board. That, just 
might keep the playing field even. Just my two cents. 
 


From: kenra...@msn.com
To: al...@larsonfineimaging.com; al...@aol.com; ew...@msn.com; 
cronin...@aol.com; rjames...@aol.com; bobwire...@msn.com; byagn...@q.com; 
martinez...@comcast.net; elkkil...@comcast.net; ct...@templelaw.comcastbiz.net; 
ctc...@aol.com; dal...@q.com; adgf...@msn.com; dryo...@hotmail.com; 
dickv...@yahoo.com; jarm...@aol.com; ddgi...@ecentral.com; 
drussro...@comcast.net; dkgeer...@comcast.net; fco...@du.edu; 
g.roth...@comcast.net; naf...@mtintouch.net; southplattej...@comcast.net; 
hat...@aol.com; jerryeuba...@comcast.net; rnager1...@aol.com; 
jjharco...@msn.com; jhk...@earthlink.net; jarvi...@comcast.net; 
j_wal...@msn.com; judy.bax...@uchsc.edu; kkoprow...@mcgeadysisneros.com; 
kenthigg...@comcast.net; kristinwe...@msn.com; drlouf...@hotmail.com; 
iceman...@millect.com; mahlonoz...@comcast.net; markflie...@hotmail.com; 
m...@jazzmarkgallery.com; mat2...@hotmail.com; neilwf...@aol.com; 
nsch...@pinnaclerea.com; pdwoller...@comcast.net; regp...@comcast.net; 
fly_fisher...@att.net; rhpisca...@aol.com; rick...@hotmail.com; 
macpo...@aol.com; sbarc...@slifersummit.com; sst...@comcast.net; 
mtnsha...@indra.com; st...

[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Anthony Spezio]

Good to know that.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Mark Romero  wrote:

From: Mark Romero 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: "virtual fly box" 
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:31 PM




Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700



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Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

Tony, Stripers actually run up that thing now.
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:31:11 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





Spent many a day catching Blue Claw Crabs on that river, It had the smell of a 
marsh.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Alan Di Somma  wrote:


From: Alan Di Somma 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:15 PM





Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 







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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

Alan, Tony.the Hackensack has been cleaned up and is not a bad river to 
fish nowdays...definately has no more smell. It has it's own Riverkeeper, 
and has been turned into quite a resource for anglers, and an economic windfall 
for the area.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:15:26 -0700




Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Di Somma 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

it's still a swamp for the most part..although in site of 
Manhattanand partially developed...200 years ago it was 
likely, one of the most beautiful wetlands that ever existed on this planet. 
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:11:03 -0700
From: bambot...@yahoo.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com





I know the place real well, used to hunt there myself. As for the smell, I 
learned to fly on the Hakansack River in seaplanes. Our flying practice area 
was in that pig farm area, the smell came all the way up to 2000 feet.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Alan Di Somma  wrote:


From: Alan Di Somma 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:06 PM





I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 







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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

they been sayin' hoffa was under the old Giants stadium for 
yearslike anybody gives a  LMAO! way to many people 
need to get lives...jeeze.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
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Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:06:09 -0700




I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
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> 
> 
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Anthony Spezio]

Spent many a day catching Blue Claw Crabs on that river, It had the smell of a 
marsh.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

From: Alan Di Somma 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:15 PM



 
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Tony:
 
I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the 
weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Alan Di Somma 
  
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 
  PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
  this thing?
  

  I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands 
  when we used to call it " Secaucus Swamp"
   
  There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just 
  about know you over.
   
  They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried 
  there..
   
   
  Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
   
  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
   
  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mark 
Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 
AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you 
call this thing?

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as 
possible. One of my favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 
on 
the way to Montana. Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually 
after having left that morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota 
line 
comming from maybe somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i 
guess those days are over though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana 
from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built 
in the Meadowlands (N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets 
play. 

 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you 
call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: 
glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 

> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in 
Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, 
but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've 
seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the 
store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually 
takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the 
store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river 
where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several 
eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more 
often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> 
Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> 
Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
 
> oups.com cc 
> 
> 
Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> 
PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> 
vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 

> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store 
in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from 
us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount 
store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have 
another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's 
not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from 
eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check 
out Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 

> 
> 
> 





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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Alan Di Somma]

Tony:

I remember the Hackensack River very well. 
I had and Aunt & Uncle that we used to visit on the weekends and stay there.
That place had a smell all it own also.


Thank you,
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Di Somma 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:06 PM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


  I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call 
it " Secaucus Swamp"

  There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.

  They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..


  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/
- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands 
(N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved 
from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but 
the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of 
their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out 
Cabela's.
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 






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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Anthony Spezio]

I know the place real well, used to hunt there myself. As for the smell, I 
learned to fly on the Hakansack River in seaplanes. Our flying practice area 
was in that pig farm area, the smell came all the way up to 2000 feet.
Tony

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

From: Alan Di Somma 
Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:06 PM



 
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I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands 
when we used to call it " Secaucus Swamp"
 
There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just 
about know you over.
 
They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried 
there..
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark 
  Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 
  AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
  this thing?
  
i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. 
  One of my favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to 
  Montana. Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having 
  left that morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from 
  maybe somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days 
  are over though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
  
The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands 
  (N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
  this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: 
  glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
  
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in 
  Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, 
  but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've 
  seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store 
  just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually 
  takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the 
  store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river 
  where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several 
  eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. 
  LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
  
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: 
  virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
  
> oups.com cc 
> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] 
  Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> 
  Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i 
  think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in 
  Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. 
  The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> 
  regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all 
  this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half 
  hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is 
  bigyou should check out Cabela's.
> To: 
  vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
  
  
  

  
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Alan Di Somma]

I used to hunt wild fowl and rabbits in the Meadowlands when we used to call it 
" Secaucus Swamp"

There was a pig farm close by and the smell would just about know you over.

They even say that Jimmy Hoffa was burried there..


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:17 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?


  i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 
  The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands 
(N.J.) complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
   
  > Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
  > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > From: glw...@gundluth.org
  > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
  > 
  > 
  > I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
  > WI. It's not one of their biggest
  > stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
  > you've seen something in one of their
  > catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
  > the warehouses. Usually takes
  > 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
  > a beautiful drive is along the
  > Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
  > and several eagles. Now that
  > I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
  > 
  > Gary Webb
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Mark Romero 
  >  ail.com> To 
  > Sent by: virtual fly box 
  > vfb-m...@googlegr  
  > oups.com cc 
  > 
  > Subject 
  > 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
  > PM this thing? 
  > 
  > 
  > Please respond to 
  > vfb-m...@googlegr 
  > oups.com 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
  > one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
  > home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
  > regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
  > weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
  > from eachother.
  > But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
  > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 




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[VFB] summertime bug swap3

[David Masson]

Got my flies today great bunch flies thanks to everyone who join a René I
guess it’s true great mines do think a like 

Thank everyone

Dave 

Ps thank for the stuff jim more should be on their way

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[VFB] Re: I'm back

[Michael Bliss]

Alan,

I would go with - "nice story"  but I have had similar experience there and
in NZ.  I learned to keep the drag very light.  But it sure makes the heart
beat fast to see a fish like that on your line.  I did manage to land a
couple.  Wish I had been with you up there.  I love Alaska.

Mike

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

>  Glad to see that you are now able to post directly to the list.
>
>
>
> Biggest rainbow that I got to within 15 ft. of the boat was well over 30".
>
> Had at leat 8 or 10 that took the egg and kept running. Never saw them and
> broke off almost immediately,
>
> Had several that I played for a few minutes and broke off.
>
>
> Thank you,
> Alan Di Somma
>
> Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
>
> http://www.azflyfishing.net/
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Mark Romero 
> *To:* virtual fly box 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:45 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Re: I'm back
>
> Glad you had a terrific time and got home safe Alan.
>
> --
> From: phxflyt...@cox.net
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] I'm back
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:31:42 -0700
>
> I will give a better report tonight when I get back from the
> (UGG!!) Salt Mine.
>
> But I can tell you all this.
>
>
>
>
> WOW!!!
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Alan Di Somma
>
> Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
>
> http://www.azflyfishing.net/
>
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[VFB] Re: I'm back

[Mark Romero]

Yup, that's tricky business.i usually screw it up myself..just 
being able to completely do NOTHING and let a REALLY BIG fish just GO! Your 
brain is so trained to do "something." And that's a huge mistake when dealin' 
with a really big fish. You should do nothing..NOTHING at 
allcept maybe to keep a bit of straight line connection.without 
slack and that's it. But to simply let 'em run is not an easy thing to 
dowe always seem to want to do something to retrieve the fish.and 
those big boys will bust you off in a split second. i've lost countless fish 
because i got to excited and didn't remember to just let that first run GO!
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: I'm back
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:14:18 -0700




Glad to see that you are now able to post directly to the list.
 
 
 
Biggest rainbow that I got to within 15 ft. of the boat was well over 30".
 
Had at leat 8 or 10 that took the egg and kept running. Never saw them and 
broke off almost immediately,
 
Had several that I played for a few minutes and broke off.
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
http://www.azflyfishing.net/

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Romero 
To: virtual fly box 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:45 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: I'm back

Glad you had a terrific time and got home safe Alan.
 


From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] I'm back
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:31:42 -0700




I will give a better report tonight when I get back from the 
(UGG!!) Salt Mine.
 
But I can tell you all this.
 
 
 
 
WOW!!!
 
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
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[VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's

[Joseph Fusco, Sr.]

*OOPS!!! I goofed on the link ---*
**
*www.conranch.com* 

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Mark Romero wrote:

> i'll co-sign that Joe.at least in terms of saying that, as is almost
> always the case with "things." You get what you pay for. And based on
> Denny's prices.you get a fine product for the money. Dennis Conrad is
> the owner of the company and he is a very fair and honest person who does
> his very best to give you the best product he can. If your looking for good
> quality hackle that will serve your fishing needs for a fair
> price.Conranch is perfect. He does however, NOT dye a thing.so don't
> expect to find dyed material. It's all natural. Beautiful stuff though. He's
> always comming up with special stuff and unique natural colors.and
> occassionally has a good Cree to let go of. Hopefully, Denny will be back
> with us at the Sowbug next.
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:13:28 -0500
> Subject: [VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's
> From: jfusc...@gmail.com
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>
>  *My personal suggestion for necks and saddles is Conranch Hackle.  They
> only sell directly to the tyer, their quality is excellent, and they stand
> behind their product 100%.  *
>
> www.conranchhackle.com
>
> --
> Joe Fusco, Sr.
> Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International
> Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box
>
> REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE
>
> Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com
>
>
>  On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Joyce  wrote:
>
>
> I live about a half hour from the Lehi, UT Cabelas, so also, if you need
> anything let me know and I can get it and send. The one thing I would not
> recommend getting from them are their necks and saddles.  They are by a new
> supplier and frankly, they are very poor quality, esp when compared with
> Hebert and Whiting, Spencer and others. Joyce
>
>  >
>

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[VFB] Re: I'm back

[Alan Di Somma]

Glad to see that you are now able to post directly to the list.



Biggest rainbow that I got to within 15 ft. of the boat was well over 30".

Had at leat 8 or 10 that took the egg and kept running. Never saw them and 
broke off almost immediately,

Had several that I played for a few minutes and broke off.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

http://www.azflyfishing.net/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Romero 
  To: virtual fly box 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:45 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: I'm back


  Glad you had a terrific time and got home safe Alan.
   

--
  From: phxflyt...@cox.net
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [VFB] I'm back
  Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:31:42 -0700


  I will give a better report tonight when I get back from the 
(UGG!!) Salt Mine.

  But I can tell you all this.




  WOW!!!



  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma 

  Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

  http://www.azflyfishing.net/

  




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[VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's

[Mark Romero]

i'll co-sign that Joe.at least in terms of saying that, as is almost always 
the case with "things." You get what you pay for. And based on Denny's 
prices.you get a fine product for the money. Dennis Conrad is the owner of 
the company and he is a very fair and honest person who does his very best to 
give you the best product he can. If your looking for good quality hackle that 
will serve your fishing needs for a fair price.Conranch is perfect. He does 
however, NOT dye a thing.so don't expect to find dyed material. It's all 
natural. Beautiful stuff though. He's always comming up with special stuff and 
unique natural colors.and occassionally has a good Cree to let go of. 
Hopefully, Denny will be back with us at the Sowbug next.
 


Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:13:28 -0500
Subject: [VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's
From: jfusc...@gmail.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com


My personal suggestion for necks and saddles is Conranch Hackle.  They only 
sell directly to the tyer, their quality is excellent, and they stand behind 
their product 100%.  
 
www.conranchhackle.com

-- 
Joe Fusco, Sr.
Member of The Missouri Trout Fishermen’s Association, The International 
Brotherhood of the Flymph and The Virtual Fly Box

REMEMBER CANCER IS A WORD NOT A SENTENCE

Reply to: jfusc...@gmail.com



On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Joyce  wrote:


I live about a half hour from the Lehi, UT Cabelas, so also, if you need
anything let me know and I can get it and send. The one thing I would not
recommend getting from them are their necks and saddles.  They are by a new
supplier and frankly, they are very poor quality, esp when compared with
Hebert and Whiting, Spencer and others. Joyce

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[VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's

[Joseph Fusco, Sr.]

*My personal suggestion for necks and saddles is Conranch Hackle.  They only
sell directly to the tyer, their quality is excellent, and they stand behind
their product 100%.  *

www.conranchhackle.com

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Joyce  wrote:

>
> I live about a half hour from the Lehi, UT Cabelas, so also, if you need
> anything let me know and I can get it and send. The one thing I would not
> recommend getting from them are their necks and saddles.  They are by a new
> supplier and frankly, they are very poor quality, esp when compared with
> Hebert and Whiting, Spencer and others. Joyce
>
>
> >
>

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[VFB] Re: I'm back

[Mark Romero]

Glad you had a terrific time and got home safe Alan.
 


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I will give a better report tonight when I get back from the 
(UGG!!) Salt Mine.
 
But I can tell you all this.
 
 
 
 
WOW!!!
 
 
 
Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 
 
Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"
 
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[VFB] Re: PHW

[Mark Romero]

Well, if your gonna visit Tony and fish below the dam..just give us a 
call...we live 5 minutes from the dam and i'll show you where some real 
nice "spots" are. If the water is offyou can very easily have a 50 fish 
day and many double that. It's been fishin' incredable when the water is off. i 
can also take you to a place called Cane Island, or we could go to Roundhouse 
or Wildcat or Rim Shoals or The Park Water in Cotter or The Junction or go fish 
the Northfork.whatever you wanna do. Email me for phone numbers if you 
need 'em. 
 


From: jbal...@a5.com
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Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:27:50 -0500







We usually go down there on a Wed or Thurs & stay until Monday. Friday evenings 
& Saturday during the day are bad in terms of people, so we go early & take 
long breaks late morning & early afternoon. Last year the water was so high we 
could only wade early in the morning & @ night, so people weren’t as much of an 
issue, & if you’re drifting, you only have to worry about the boneheads w/ big 
motors or the jet boats.
Lilly’s is a nice place & the shop is nice, but we stay in Branson in the 
spring because that’s where the women’s basket weaving convention is. We met 
the River Run people wandering the old downtown before they moved out by the 
dam & have been going there ever since. I’ve been hoping to visit Tony this 
fall & do the White below Bull Shoals, but if that doesn’t work, let me know 
when you’ll be in Branson & if I can help I will.
 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Romero
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:53 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
 
S many fish it was STUPID...just about as many 
anglers.just  to crowded for my taste. 
up at the damn it was unrealfish were rising everywherebut just 
to many fisherman. i'd like to go back there in Jan. or Feb. and fish when 
everybody and his brother isn't there. i'm gonna do an "In-Store" tyin' 
demo/class for the local fly shop in swap for a guided trip on the river there 
with the fly shop owner. She's a friend of ours, and fellow IWFF member with 
Misako. We just agreed on it this morning. Should be fun it'll be in the winter 
or early Spring. We we're gonna do the tyin' sessions at the fly shop this time 
around.but as it turns out, one of the vets was in a wheel-chair.and 
getting him up those stairs in the fly shop..whew, no way Jose'. So we did 
it in the breakfast room at the hotel where most of the vets stayed.the 
American Best or Best American.i can't remember, but it worked out fine. We 
had plenty of seats and good lighting. Lilly's was our home base for the 
weekend (where we did the casting, launched the boats, and had all our meals), 
but only Misako and i and the vet in the wheelchair actually stayed there. 
They've got a decent little fly shop there too. VERY nice people, Phil and 
Marsha Lilly. They've had the place for 26 years.
 



From: jbal...@a5.com 
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:20:42 -0500

Congrats! Sometimes the bigger bows there will bump your ankles if you don’t 
move soon enoughJ
 


From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mark Romero
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:27 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
 
back, i couldn't believe these damn trout..they like pet fish.i 
was in this one spot for bout 40 minutes, and three of them were within an inch 
of my feet.just hangin' out waitin' to eat every time i moved my 
feet..one of the three was definately over 20 inches. it's "redickalus" how 
tame they arewe caught a LOT of fish.
the entire event was GREAT. We had 10 vets.just about as many 
guides.and my pal Jereny Hunt was one of them. He's a great guide. The 
place we stayed, Lilly's Landing was REAL nice and the same for all the people 
who worked there. They fed us til we couldn't walk, thregreat guide. The place 
we stayed, Lilly's Landing was REAL nice and the same for all the people who 
worked there. They fed us til we couldn't walk, three times a day.and Wapsi 
donated a vise, tools, threads & wires, a book and hooks to each vet, plus they 
got a rod and reel with line and leader from some generous 
companies.these guys had the time of their lives.and  and they all 
caught fish and learned to tye. A few REALLY got into the tyin'. i had 'em 
doin' dry flies by last night. it was amazing
to see 'em come in kinna introverted and leary.and by halfway through Sun. 
they were LOOSE as a GOOSE. i had 'em rotfltao with jokes. 
better get, i gotta crap load of email to deal wiff. 
 
 



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Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:51:17 -0500

Kick a few trout for me.
 


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[VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's

[Mark Romero]

Joyce, i'm pretty sure i know who your refering to as "a new supplier" and i 
have to agree that the stuff (hackle) is garbage, to a large degree. If i'm 
right bout who (company) your refering to.Misa and i are on their Pro Team. 
They make GREAT dubbings and chenilles and have a real nice MoHair product, and 
other good stuff...but they've got a long way to go with their hackle. And 
i have told them this over and over...seems it's just a very small family 
business. They signed us up and quite a few others at the show in Idaho Falls 
two years ago. Sent us a ton of stuff and a shirt.but never really stay in 
touch that well. The guy in charge of the team left and went to work for Bass 
Pro. So i think the company is floundering or on hard times...very nice 
people, but they need to learn some about genetic hackle. The Marabou they sent 
was also terrible in terms of the dye comming off on your hands. So they told 
us they'd be working on solving that problem...but i really don't know. 
We've got a chance to join the Whiting team this fall.so i guess we'll see 
how that goes. The other company does make some real nice stuff though. And 
their saddles can be used for fishin' fliesdepending. There's a certain 
degree of twist in much of it. But it's still usable for saltwater flies, Pike 
flies and streamers. 
 
> From: westpha...@gmail.com
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:48:13 -0600
> 
> 
> I live about a half hour from the Lehi, UT Cabelas, so also, if you need 
> anything let me know and I can get it and send. The one thing I would not 
> recommend getting from them are their necks and saddles. They are by a new 
> supplier and frankly, they are very poor quality, esp when compared with 
> Hebert and Whiting, Spencer and others. Joyce 
> 
> 
> > 
  
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[VFB] I'm back

[Alan Di Somma]

I will give a better report tonight when I get back from the 
(UGG!!) Salt Mine.

But I can tell you all this.




WOW!!!



Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, It's Arpaiolicious!"

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[Rick Zieger]

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These are grand ideas if you overlook the small fact that big wings can destroy 
the balance of a delicate fly, causing it to either tip over until one of them 
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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[Mark Romero]

i love to stop in Bass Pro and or Cabelas as often as possible. One of my 
favorite Cabelas is in Mitchell, South Dakota on I-90 on the way to Montana. 
Great place to stop and rest for a while..usually after having left that 
morning from somewhere just inside the Minnasota line comming from maybe 
somewhere in Ohio the previous morning.i guess those days are over 
though. Cause i'll prolly never head to Montana from N.Y. anymore. 

The newest and biggest (to be) Cabelas is being built in the Meadowlands (N.J.) 
complex, where the N.Y. Giants and N.Y. Jets play. 
 
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> From: glw...@gundluth.org
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0500
> 
> 
> I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
> WI. It's not one of their biggest
> stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers. So if
> you've seen something in one of their
> catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
> the warehouses. Usually takes
> 20 to 30 minutes. Which is way less time than I spend in the store. It's
> a beautiful drive is along the
> Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
> and several eagles. Now that
> I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL
> 
> Gary Webb
> 
> 
> 
> Mark Romero 
>  ail.com> To 
> Sent by: virtual fly box 
> vfb-m...@googlegr  
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> 
> Subject 
> 09/21/2009 05:14 [VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call 
> PM this thing? 
> 
> 
> Please respond to 
> vfb-m...@googlegr 
> oups.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
> one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
> home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
> regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
> weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
> from eachother.
> But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
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[VFB] Re: also close to Cabela's

[Joyce]

I live about a half hour from the Lehi, UT Cabelas, so also, if you need 
anything let me know and I can get it and send. The one thing I would not 
recommend getting from them are their necks and saddles.  They are by a new 
supplier and frankly, they are very poor quality, esp when compared with 
Hebert and Whiting, Spencer and others. Joyce 


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[VFB] Re: PHW

[J Balmer]

We usually go down there on a Wed or Thurs & stay until Monday. Friday
evenings & Saturday during the day are bad in terms of people, so we go
early & take long breaks late morning & early afternoon. Last year the water
was so high we could only wade early in the morning & @ night, so people
weren't as much of an issue, & if you're drifting, you only have to worry
about the boneheads w/ big motors or the jet boats.

Lilly's is a nice place & the shop is nice, but we stay in Branson in the
spring because that's where the women's basket weaving convention is. We met
the River Run people wandering the old downtown before they moved out by the
dam & have been going there ever since. I've been hoping to visit Tony this
fall & do the White below Bull Shoals, but if that doesn't work, let me know
when you'll be in Branson & if I can help I will.

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Romero
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:53 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW

 

S many fish it was STUPID...just about as many
anglers.just  to crowded for my taste. 
up at the damn it was unrealfish were rising everywherebut
just to many fisherman. i'd like to go back there in Jan. or Feb. and fish
when everybody and his brother isn't there. i'm gonna do an "In-Store" tyin'
demo/class for the local fly shop in swap for a guided trip on the river
there with the fly shop owner. She's a friend of ours, and fellow IWFF
member with Misako. We just agreed on it this morning. Should be fun it'll
be in the winter or early Spring. We we're gonna do the tyin' sessions at
the fly shop this time around.but as it turns out, one of the vets was
in a wheel-chair.and getting him up those stairs in the fly
shop..whew, no way Jose'. So we did it in the breakfast room at the
hotel where most of the vets stayed.the American Best or Best
American.i can't remember, but it worked out fine. We had plenty of
seats and good lighting. Lilly's was our home base for the weekend (where we
did the casting, launched the boats, and had all our meals), but only Misako
and i and the vet in the wheelchair actually stayed there. They've got a
decent little fly shop there too. VERY nice people, Phil and Marsha Lilly.
They've had the place for 26 years.
 

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From: jbal...@a5.com 
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Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:20:42 -0500

Congrats! Sometimes the bigger bows there will bump your ankles if you don't
move soon enoughJ

 

From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Romero
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 4:27 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW

 

back, i couldn't believe these damn trout..they like pet
fish.i was in this one spot for bout 40 minutes, and three of them
were within an inch of my feet.just hangin' out waitin' to eat every
time i moved my feet..one of the three was definately over 20 inches.
it's "redickalus" how tame they arewe caught a LOT of fish.
the entire event was GREAT. We had 10 vets.just about as many
guides.and my pal Jereny Hunt was one of them. He's a great guide. The
place we stayed, Lilly's Landing was REAL nice and the same for all the
people who worked there. They fed us til we couldn't walk, thregreat guide.
The place we stayed, Lilly's Landing was REAL nice and the same for all the
people who worked there. They fed us til we couldn't walk, three times a
day.and Wapsi donated a vise, tools, threads & wires, a book and hooks
to each vet, plus they got a rod and reel with line and leader from some
generous companies.these guys had the time of their lives.and
and they all caught fish and learned to tye. A few REALLY got into the
tyin'. i had 'em doin' dry flies by last night. it was amazing
to see 'em come in kinna introverted and leary.and by halfway through
Sun. they were LOOSE as a GOOSE. i had 'em rotfltao with jokes. 
better get, i gotta crap load of email to deal wiff. 
 
 

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From: jbal...@a5.com
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [VFB] Re: PHW
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:51:17 -0500

Kick a few trout for me.

 

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Of Mark Romero
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 12:36 PM
To: virtual fly box
Subject: [VFB] PHW

 

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[VFB] Re: Duh, what do you call this thing?

[glwebb]

I live about an hour's drive from the Cabela's store in Prairie Du Chein,
WI.  It's not one of their biggest
stores, but it is part of one of Cabela's distribution centers.  So if
you've seen something in one of their
catalogs and don't see it in the store just ask for it to be retrieved from
the warehouses.  Usually takes
20 to 30 minutes.  Which is way less time than I spend in the store.   It's
a beautiful  drive is along the
Mississippi river where we always see lots of wildlife, mostly waterfowl
and several eagles. Now that
I think about it, I should be going there more often. LOL

Gary Webb


   
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Wes, i've been to i think, every Bass Pro store in the country..but the
one here in Springflield (2 hours from us) is the biggest. That's their
home base. The closeout/discount store next door is as big as some of their
regular stores. The have another store in Branson (where we were all this
weekend), but it's not as big. Those two stores are just a half hour away
from eachother.
But, if you think Bass Pro is bigyou should check out Cabela's.
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