Re: [VFB] Don Ordes news

[Scott Bearden]

We have lost a lot of good friends this year. I hope Don finds willing
trout rising to dry flies in heaven.

Scott

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 7:26 AM Jack Harford 
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> May Don Ordes have a peaceful and pleasant journey to beautiful streams of
> love in the next world.
>
> God Bless You Don,
> Jack
>
> On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 2:09 AM Beer mit  wrote:
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>> Yes. Last week. Great shame.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Reuven
>>
>> > On 24 Dec 2020, at 0:39, Byard Miller  wrote:
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Re: [VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Scott Bearden]

Even more important I make Sowbug in 2021. I just got a phone call with the
sad news. Im still in shock.

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 10:14 AM Gary Webb  wrote:

> Sad news indeed.   Thanks for letting us know.
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 8:55 AM Peggy Brenner 
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>> For those who are not on FB, Tony died in his sleep last night.  I
>> visited them at the home in early March as I was in Mountain Home for a
>> ladies fly tying event. He was determined to make 90 but didn't seem to
>> have a plan other than getting home after that. Going home was not an
>> option without live in care, but the home was very nice and everyone knew
>> both of them as the employees lived local as well.
>>
>> Maybe next year for Sowbug we should all meet there for a  moment of
>> silence in his honor and before we all get to 90.
>>
>> Peggy
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 10:22 AM 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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>>> Thanks for the info. Not what  I wanted to hear.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 9, 2020, 06:16:10 PM CDT, Scott Bearden <
>>> scott.bear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.
>>>
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>>> From: *Mike Stout *
>>> Date: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 1:23 PM
>>> Subject: Tony Spezio
>>>
>>> For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had
>>> to
>>> have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
>>> heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son
>>> in
>>> law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There
>>> is
>>> also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30
>>> days.
>>> They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
>>> second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently
>>> on
>>> the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
>>> have more information.
>>>
>>> Mike
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[VFB] Fwd: Tony Spezio

[Scott Bearden]

FYI, Keep Tony in your prayers. He has several major hurdles to overcome.

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Subject: Tony Spezio

For those of you that don't know (I think that is most of you), Tony had to
have his other leg removed. They did it yesterday, and the last that I
heard from his son Bob, he was asleep in his room. His daughter and son in
law were there. This was a 50/50 operation and he survived again. There is
also a 50/50 chance of life threatening complications in the first 30 days.
They will only let 1 family member in at a time, so of course this is all
second hand for me. Just reporting what I have been told. I am currently on
the Conejos, and communication is slow. Will report further when I
have more information.

Mike

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Re: [VFB] Birthday

[Scott Bearden]

Thank you Rick!

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

[Scott Bearden]

Tony,

I am praying for you and Dot. Just take this one day at a time. I wished I
lived closer to help you guys out.

Regards,

Scott

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 11:52 PM 'Anthony Spezio' via VFB Mail <
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> My wife Dot fell at the nursing home Yesterday and has arm injury and
> broke her hip. Is now prepped for surgery first thing in the morning.
> We are both in the same hospital.
> Arkansas Tony
>
> On Sunday, January 5, 2020, 10:06:58 PM CST, Allan Fish <
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> Tony Spezio called me tonight.  He is currently in the hospital at
> Mountain Home.  He is suffering from congestive heart failure, massive
> urinary tract infection, pneumonia and his kidneys are failing.   He
> will be in the hospital several days then moved to the same nursing home
> that his wife Dot is in.
>
> For those of you who haven't heard, Dot has suffered a massive stroke
> and can not talk.
>
> I hate to say this but it doesn't look good at this point in time.
>
> Allan
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Re: [VFB] Scott Bearden

[Scott Bearden]

Thank you Rick!

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> Have a Happy Birthday.
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Re: [VFB] Great news

[Scott Bearden]

See you in a couple of weeks Tony! I am so glad you are home.

Scott

On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 10:11 PM Michael Bliss  wrote:

> Way to go Tony.  Don't overdo but keep going.
>
> Mike
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>> Day 4 at home, great to be here.
>> Have to learn some new ways to do some things but I will do that.
>> I did attend the FFF Fly Fair for a few hours on Friday, found I was too
>> shakey to tie.
>> Tony
>>
>> On Sunday, October 7, 2018, 10:14:03 AM CDT, Michael Bliss <
>> flyfish...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>
>> We love you Tony
>> Mike
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 7:46 AM Phxflytyer  wrote:
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>> TNX Allan
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Mesa, Az.
>>
>> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 6, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> > Tony Spezio is HOME!  At last!   It's been nearly 3 months.
>> >
>> > He's back on-line.
>> >
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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Scott Bearden]

This is fantastic news!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> I just got a call from Tony.  He called Sunday and said that he felt
> like the walls are closing in on him.  He has not been home for 3
> months.  But today they told him he can go home a week from tomorrow.
> He is really excited.
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[VFB] Tony Spezio update

[Scott Bearden]

Hi everyone,

I am cross posting this from bamboo rodmakers list from yesterday. Keep
Tony in your prayers:

"Texted with Gina this morning, and Tony has had surgery. Originally were
going to take a toe but complications required the surgeons to take his
lower leg up to mid-shin. Gina reports his vitals are stable as of 10:42
MST today, 8/19/18.

-Don Smith"

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Tony S.

[Scott Bearden]

Tony,

If you are reading this please know you are always in my thoughts and
prayers. I hope you have a speedy recovery and look forward to spending
some time with you at SRG.

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Re: Tony the birthday boy

[Scott Bearden]

Happy birthday Tony!

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> Thanks Wayne, I am just getting older every day.
> Tony
>
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> On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:32 AM, Wayne Blake-Hedges <
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> Hi Tony;
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
> Hope it's a good one.
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Re: [VFB] RE: anyone ever injure their tying arm?

[Scott Bearden]

Wayne,

I know that you are not a Veteran, but take solace in knowing this is
exactly the sort of thing Project Healing Waters does all the time. The
road to recovery may be long and painful but you already have a leg up on
the situation by having a hobby such as this to help the healing process.
The dexterity and eye hand coordination and motor skills you will need to
rehabilitate translate well to fly tying. I hope your recovery goes well
and that you are back to fly fishing, kayaking and bike riding in the
coming months. If there is anything I can do to help just remember that I
am local and give me a shout.

Regards,

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Copyright and discussion forums...

[Scott Bearden]

Consider water marking your photos with your website or company name and
copyright year. I was always told that in the world of flies you can
copyright a fly by name but not really patent one. All it would take is
someone to change one material or change the quantity or size in a material
used. Tie it in another sequence, color, etc and the patent is useless. But
your picture is your picture and the laws are a little more straight
forward in regards to pictures. Watermark them so that if someone does link
to your server as they have done in the past or outright download the
images and then upload them somewhere else that there is at least a visual
clue to the reader what is really going on. You are due fair credit for
creation of those flies and there should be some ethics on the part of the
forum in question in giving and ensuring due credit is given. Now if
someone ties and photographs say an old but publicly known fly then the
credit to the pattern should go to the originator and the credit for the
photo (and tyer) should go to that individual. Please note that if you post
pictures to social media (including said forum) that generally in the fine
print you can find some legalese that claims ownership of everything you
post including pictures. Some media companies scour social networks for
original artwork to use in magazines, websites, etc. So be careful what you
post online because unless you own the server there is a good chance that
you don't own what you post there. And if set to publicly available, if may
even be interpreted as public domain. I can tell you without a doubt that
Facebook, twitter, etc all claim ownership over what you upload whether you
delete it or not (they don't really delete anything, just hide it). I think
we may find some humor and plenty of fodder for people seeking public
office, especially 20 - 30 years from now when many people don't take what
they post online very seriously. This is still the early days of social
media. I will say that Facebook does provide provisions on how to handle
theft of copyrighted material including words and photos, but you must
prove that you are the rightful owner. Nobody but you can file a claim.
YouTube has the same mechanisms and probably a few others.

I once used the Chilipepper and a picture from Tony's vise of one he tied
in a newsletter but I attributed both the pattern and photo to him. I think
it is important to society to give credit where it is due.

Scott

On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:37 AM Neville Gosling 
wrote:

> Nick:
>
> There is strength in numbers and if it is indeed the flytyingforum.com
> we could ask the VFB members individually to e-mail the administrator and
> tell him as Wes suggests to “Cease & Desist” displaying your photograph
> without your permission. I now place a copyright symbol on my photos
> together with my name. They can still crop it out or photoshop it, but each
> photo normally has metadata attached to it which should include the
> original creation date and camera used.
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>
>
> On Jul 27, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail)  wrote:
>
> Doesn't really matter now. I got banned for thinking that I still owned
> the riights to my photo... :(
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Neville Gosling 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick:
>>
>> I’m guessing that you are referring to the flytyingforum.com that also
>> has a fly pattern database that patterns may be uploaded to?
>>
>>
>>
>> Neville (Nev) Gosling
>> Greater Vancouver
>> BC  Canada
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 27, 2015, at 6:42 PM, Niclas (Gmail) 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So, guys - here's one for you...
>>
>> Background:
>> I'm getting tired of people posting my flies and stating that they are
>> their own. The more flies with different owners showing up in picture
>> searchs makes the ownership of the material on my own website unclear.
>> I know what copyright is about and until today I thought it was the same
>> "over there" but on a certain discussion forum where you also can upload
>> patterns to a pattern database I ran into a brick wall. The discussion with
>> the administrator has been ridiculous But as an administrator I'd like to
>> assume that he should have some knowledge about rules and laws... and since
>> he's not bending one inch (and getting more and more rude), it's not that I
>> start to wonder if I'm wrong myself.
>>
>> Someone else has used a photo (taken by myself) from my site and used it
>> for uploading a pattern in the forum's pattern database. First he thought I
>> meant that it was my pattern and he wanted to see a patent ID. I explained
>> that the pattern was beside the point and that it was the picture that was
>> the issue. I think I got that through. But he's still wants to see a patent
>> ID to remove it "or stop wasting his time because I'm bringing up shit that
>> noone but I even care about".
>>
>> Question:
>> Is copyright different in US. Has a US discussion forum more rights than
>> a private person to publish copyright

Re: [VFB] Was Birdie & Kelly Pics - Now Lightroom.

[Scott Bearden]

http://www.gimp.org/ You will thank me later. This is an open source and
FREE program for professional photo editing.

On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:56 PM Allan Fish  wrote:

> On 5/27/15 7:16 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> > It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can be
> purchased as a software program on a disc and all future version will be
> web based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ that way.
> Nev,
>
> I just looked up the price for Lightroom.  I don't do enough
> photographic manipulation to justify buying it in any shape or form.
>
> Y-A-K!!  I could buy a really nice fly rod for that price. 
>
> Al
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Re: [VFB] RE:SowBug Roundup 2015

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This is how it works: If I bring my fishing gear the river will be a raging
torrent and completely unfishable. If I leave my gear at home, it will be
the best 3 days of fishing all year long. Story of my life.

Scott

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> They have been good for the past few days.
> Tony
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> Peggy Brenner  wrote:
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> >WE are already in Bull Shoals, the water levels are good for fishing
> >this year!
> >
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> >On 3/17/2015 7:47 AM, 'TONY SPEZIO' via VFB Mail wrote:
> >> We will miss you.
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> >>> Starting to feel sad about not going this year, always a good time and
> just feels like spring always  arrives when I return home.
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Re: [VFB] RE:Scott Bearden

[Scott Bearden]

I have no idea how I missed this but then again I have been in lurker mode
for so long that most people probably wonder who I am. Thank you Wayne. It
was a pretty cruddy week but in the big scheme of things a birthday is
really just another day. I sincerely appreciate it though and can't wait to
get together again. We need to catch up some time.

Scott

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> Happy Birthday Scott!
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Re: [VFB] Dying feathers with Rit dye ???

[Scott Bearden]

I second what Gary just said. You can find it for fairly cheap too.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM,  wrote:

> Chuck
> Get a copy of A.K. Best's book DYING & BLEACHING Natural fly-tying
> materials.  Feathers and cotton do not dye the same way.  Best has full
> instructions and will take you through it step by step.
> Gary s
>
> --
>   Folks: Can anybody give me the “secret” to dying feathers (and/or
> fabric) with Rit dye?? What happened is that my son had some dark purple
> demin material he wanted dyed black. He added TWO boxes of Rit dye to the
> three gallons or so of water as he had four yards of material to dye. Adde
> the salt but not the vinegar as it said to only use the vinegar with salt
> if the material is silk or wool and not cotton. Brought the water to a
> boil, then let it soak all day. Still just came out a darker purple and NIT
> jet black like the dye is.
>
> Now is my problem in that. He saved the water as I have a ton of grizzly
> feathers, but hardly any black, so I was just going to sye a grizzly neck
> in that same dye water mix after he finished. But I don’t want the grizzly
> to go from black and white, to purple ad white. Any tips?? Should I add
> vinegar?? Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Wolves change rivers

[Scott Bearden]

Thanks for sharing this Neville. I am a big believer in having a very
rounded out ecosystem with plenty of top of the food chain predators. As
such I don't eat tuna or swordfish (and I have only eaten shark once in my
life) but I try to eat salmon and halibut and hake and a lot of the smaller
species for that very same reason. Wolves have been demonized just as bears
have because yes, both can kill humans, but more often is the case that
they kill livestock and it is ranchers who have driven the propaganda war
against bob cats, mountain lions, wolves, bears and coyotes. When I was a
child on the way back from a camping trip we passed a pasture with barbed
wire fence and 5 or 6 coyotes strung over the fence. My father told me that
it was a sign of the times how few were left because when he was my age
that fence would have been covered from end to end in dead coyotes.

Living in the Washington DC metro area we have an abundance of deer because
there are no natural predators and there are active if not publicly quiet
urban archery programs to cull the herds. Occasionally they will even close
the parks for a day for rifle shooting to cull the herds. The local tree
huggers refuse to understand that without natural predators the populations
grow to unsustainable numbers and they strip away vegetation more than they
would if there was balance. Recently there was a couple of police reports
of a mountain lion just 15 minutes outside of DC, but without photographic
evidence or a trapped specimen it might as well be Big Foot. The black bear
population is slowly creeping its way further away from the mountains and
have been seen about 30-40 miles Southwest of DC. Coyotes too have been
spotted and caught on audio right down by the Potomac River but the
suspected numbers are very low due to urban and suburban density. I have
lived out here since 1997. Mostly around densely wooded areas. Only in the
last 5 years have I seen chipmunks. The squirrels are starting to come
around the houses foraging for food. I have seen a few rabbits over time
but not many. Even beavers are slowly making a comeback in the region. They
were supposedly reintroduced to the region through Maryland back in the
1980's and little by little their population is creeping south along
waterways, however a lot of residents want them trapped and removed not
understanding the significance they have on the ecosystem.

Now don't get me wrong, I would defend my life in a pinch against any
predator, but I would still rather have them in this world than not.

Scott

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> Wolves change rivers
>
> https://www.youtube.com/embed/ysa5OBhXz-Q
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> "A Minute Worked is 60 Seconds of Fishing Time Wasted"
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Re: [VFB] Project Healing Waters Fly Fishing

[Scott Bearden]

The thing you MUST do to keep attrition as high as possible is organize
local fishing trips on the weekends. We sometimes forget that the point of
the fly tying and casting instruction is to go out and catch fish. Most
people will get bored if they don't see some benefit to what they are
doing. Yes, fly tying and casting can be physically and mentally
therapeutic, but it will only go so far if you don't get them out on the
water and just like a kid - try to make it easy enough so that people catch
fish. Bass and bluegill ponds are a great resource. Building a local
chapter isn't easy, but you need to establish relationships with local land
owners who have access to desirable fishing water, reach out to your local
FFF and Trout Unlimited, your local fly shops and guides. And most
importantly, engage PHW national for additional resources. They can't dole
out buckets of cash, but there are processes and procedures in place to
ensure success. I am a volunteer at the Ft Belvoir PHW program in Northern
Virginia where many wounded service members come when they are sent to
Walter Reed/ Wash DC.

Scott


On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ronald Boutin 
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> We have been working with local VA hosp doling tying workshops .However it
> has not gone over very well as most people that come are just looking for
> something to do for a few hours ant not really interested in learning to
> tie. So we are trying to see how we can increase participation. I help out
> on a Project Healing Waters teaching steelhead fishing on the salmon river
> (ny).It is a 2 and a half day program and always completely filled. It is a
> great program and very rewarding..
> Ron b
>
>
> On August 8, 2014, at 11:42AM, "Walter K. Shockley"  wrote:
>
> Good Morning all,
>
> For two years I worked with another gentleman here in the Charleston SC
> Area to get a Project Healing Water Fly Fishing (PHWFF) group started as he
> was the lead and moved ever so slow, as we were going nowhere I ask the
> national group to send me all the information and I would make it work.
> I talked with the folks at the Charleston VAMC and put posters up,
> contacted all the fly shops and off we went.
>
> Last Tuesday I conducted my first class for five veterans (2 could not
> make it) in fly casting and on the 19th I will start them on fly tying. I
> have 4 Viet Nam era vets and 3 Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. What a joy
> to to work with these veterans.
>
> PHWFF has been great on providing fly rods, vices and tying tools. What we
> could use more of is materials if you have any extra items falling off your
> fly tying table we could sure use them. I will be sure to give credit to
> any items donated.
>
> I was also thinking it might be fun to do a “Blue Gill” swap with five of
> the veterans here and five from this list, so they may see some of the work
> others are doing and I can keep it simple for them.
> I was thinking flies in the mail to me by 1 December. None of this is set
> in stone so if you have other ideas please let me know.
>
> I called it a "Blue Gill Swap" as we have a couple of smalls ponds close
> by they could use the flies in.
>
> Thanks in advance to all for your ideas and help.
>
> Walter
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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Yeah I feel like I am 18 years old again. I am telling you I found the
fountain of youth and now I am helping others do the same.

I don't mind being the list baby. It is an honor. We need more youth in our
sport. Despite the aggravation it caused, A River Runs through it breathed
new life into an industry that was probably on the brink of dying by giving
a lot of 30, 40, and 50 yr old guys something different to take up than
golf. It became trendy and probably saved a lot of small towns and fly
shops that were struggling up to that point. I think we are slowly
shrinking again. Kids just don't enjoy or have access to the outdoors as
much any more. I think programs like Project Healing Waters and Reel
Recovery and Casting for Recovery have helped bring in new people who are
passionate about the sport whereas the attrition rate with kids and teens
may be fairly low. But I still feel like our sport is shrinking.

Scott


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> With your recent fitness changes you could probably pass for ten years
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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Nope. I just turned 37 back in February. It is what it is. But I am with
Mel. I am ageless too. I feel like I am 18 yrs old.


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Re: [VFB] Summary of Are we to Old Survey

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Scott Bearden 37

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Re: [VFB] Prayers needed

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Without hesitation Tony. Dot will be in my prayers.

Scott


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> For you that have been to my house and know my wife Dot. She has been in
> the hospital for three days.
> I am sure prayers will help.
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Re: [VFB] OFF TOPIC/ IBS ????

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Anything connected to the stomach... I will say it a million times and
won't get tired. It is nothing that eating right and exercise can't solve.
Pills have side effects and are not designed to cure your problem, just
mask the symptoms. And then you need more pills to deal with the side
effects, and around and around you go. Go to the root of the problem. I
just saw another friend come completely off Type 2 diabetes medications
after exercising and watching his diet since last August. If you let the
pharmaceutical companies run your life, THEY WILL.


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Don Ordes  wrote:

>   Stop all carbonated drinks for one. Worked for me.
>
>  *From:* Chuck Alexander 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 04, 2014 7:34 PM
> *To:* Cheaper Living  ; fly fishing for
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> matching up to what others went/are going through, and how you managed it
> if possible. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] RE:Golden Gate casters club

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I don't remember the water ever being green. There must be some algae
growth. Still a beautiful place to get away from the busy hustle of San
Francisco. As a kid, if I wasn't out fishing, I was there practicing my
casting and getting lessons from several legends in fly fishing. I attended
a few of Mel Krieger's casting clinics. He was an extraordinary caster and
equally extraordinary teacher.

I hope the rest of your trip goes well. I can tell from the pictures you
are still enjoying fabulous weather.

Scott


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> I made it to the Golden Gate Casters club:
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Re: [VFB] Greetings from guess where

[Scott Bearden]

It looks like the weather is gorgeous. Very atypical for San Francisco. Eat
some good seafood and stay out of the Tenderloin. Oh, you probably don't
have a rod and reel with you but check out the Golden Gate casting club in
Golden Gate Park if you get the chance. A phenomenal place to practice and
learn casting and home to many legendary casters. I wish we had something
like it around DC.


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Re: [VFB] Re: test

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck are you sure your pictures were being displayed to everyone? It may
appear that way but an easy way to test is if your wife or kids have a
google account have them look at your google plus page. There is a also a
link on that page I sent you to that allows you to see how others see your
page. You will always be able to view all of your pictures and it may be
confusing but they are not shared by default. You have to go in and click
"share". Send me a link to your Google plus profile and let's see if we can
get to the bottom of this. I could be wrong but I bet you are getting
worked up over nothing. I am happy to help anybody on here with technology
questions and concerns.

Regards,

Scott


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Chuck Alexander
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> Well, I guess until I figure something else out, i'll just have to come to
> the group's homepage to read any posts as even though i "added" my
> centurylink email addy to my "Google+" account, it is NOT coming there yet.
> And to Scott Bearden, You're exactly right. I had to click it ON at some
> point in the past to share my pics. I just wish they'd go back to allowing
> ME to pick and choose what I want to use of Google. As in, ONLY the groups
> if that's what I want, and not the other stuff like You Tube, Google TV,
> and all the other "Google+" programs, apps etc. Now it's "all or nothing"
> as far as I can tell. And yeah, if I'd had had any selfy nudies i'd still
> be running, SCREAMING down the street LOL... Course all my peeps who saw
> them would have taken off running (the OTHER WAY) as well LOL.. Chuck
>
>
>
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>>   test  I Resolved PART of the problems I had with Google/Google+, but
>> had to do so by opening a Gmail acct. BUT,. My email acct I use EVERYWHERE,
>> and still wish to use here, is my century link addy, so wish me luck that I
>> receive a replay to that centurylink addy. I'm tooo computer illiterate to
>> be fooling with more than one email addy LOL, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] BEWARE OF PICASSA AND GOOGLE PLUS!!!!!!

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Chuck there is a simple setting to use it to back up all of your photos
without making them public. In fact it is private by default. Hell my whole
Samsung Galaxy S4 is backed up with Google+. You just don't make it
available to anyone. Facebook offers the same for pictures and so does
several other photo apps. And they all have that setting that backs your
files up to the cloud without sharing it publicly. Trust me its a good
thing when your phone or hard drive takes a dive one day. Everything is
going to the cloud and I mean everything. There won't even be a physical
media beyond BluRay. Once BluRay sales start slumping the motion picture
studios and music recording studios will stop selling physical media
because it is cost prohibitive at that point. Even newspapers and magazines
are bracing for the day when they go all digital. It is the consumer's
responsibility to make sure they are not giving up their privacy. I know it
is frustrating to learn that your photos that you thought were private were
out there in the open, but I am sure you had the opportunity to make them
private but didn't read through things carefully. I am just glad you didn't
have any naked selfies to report. LMAO

https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1047281?hl=en




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> Chuck, may I have the instructions?  I think you do a Public Service by
> posting them somewhere.
>
> Thanks
> BobH
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> *Subject: *Re: [VFB] BEWARE OF PICASSA AND GOOGLE PLUS!!
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> Ashley: Exactly. Most ppl are too trusting. But if they don't change,
> there will be NO privacy left for them at all.  There's not much as it is,
> at least in this country. Chuck
>
> *From:* ashley strutt 
> *Sent:* Monday, March 24, 2014 12:31 AM
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> Hi Chuck,
>
> 99% of people don't even read the terms and conditions before clicking OK.
> Think I may have been one of the few who actually realised all my pictures
> would be uploaded. Picassa now seems to be a part of Google plus which I
> have disabled on my phone (no auto upload) and won't allow it on my laptop.
> Basically just use the email.
>
> Ashley
> On 24 Mar 2014 05:06, "Chuck Alexander" 
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>> Folks: Just FYI. If you use Picasa, or Google plus, be aware that every
>> photo on your hard drive might be being shared with the world (or at least
>> anybody else on Google plus). I was looking for fly tying videos on You
>> Tube tonight and a pop up saying "free samples of  Tide detergent',which
>> WAS a "legit" offer. I have been playing the "free sample game: for yrs.
>> But on this one, as I read the Terms of Service and of course in the tiny
>> print it said something like "by clicking "agree" you are agreeing to
>> install picasa and/or Google+.
>>
>> So, I went to Google+ just to check it out, and what did I find??? only
>> 8.3 GIGS of my own pics. Now, none was anything I wouldn't share with the
>> world, BUT, that should be "MY CHOICE", not some lawyers lingo and his
>> "terms of service" and tiny print.  And even if I inadvertently clicked "I
>> agree" on some "terms of service" on something as innocent as free samples
>> of Tide detergent for example, don't you think either Picasa, and/or
>> Google+ could have the decency to pop open a whole screen for you to fill
>> in your personal info, click what you did and did NOT want to be shared,
>> like photos etc??  Any "up and up" company would have done so IMHO. I think
>> Google has Gotten "too big for their britches" and my wife has had me using
>> Bing as a search engine for a some time now, and it's actually a better
>> search engine IMHO anyway...
>>
>> I would still use Google at times, as old habits die hard, but you can
>> bet I won't use it again unless my life depended on it. How many pp, even
>> if they do read the "terms of service" ACTUALLY understand them fully?? 1%
>> MAYBE??? Come to find out that I guess Google owns Picasa, and it's just
>> another way of sharing photos, like "Photo bucket" etc. But, at least I was
>> FULLY AWARE when I created myself a Photo Bucket acct.
>>
>> Then, I had to get my wife to UNINSTALL all that junk, and she works for
>> MICROSOFT as a support tech, and even she had to study it for an hour to
>> figure out how to turn it off/delete it. Anyway, if you use either Picasa,
>> and/or Google+ and find out your pics are  being shared with the world and
>> don't want them to be, just write to me and I'll give you the step by step
>> (because there is ONE step (ie I Agree) to get the program, but MANY steps,
>> which must be taken in the right step by step or you'll never get rid of
>> it, or at least turn off the photo sharing part of it. I was sooo mad
>> when I found out I'd been tricked, if I could have reached through the
>> screen an

Re: [VFB] RE: Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

Yeah I wish I could have made it. I hope the weather holds out and you guys
get some good fishing in. Give Dot a hug for me.

Scott


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> Scott - sorry you couldn't make it this year. We had a good drive. Tony is
> a good driver. I had a great night; unfortunately, your old bed here is no
> longer available . . . 8 - }
> Bob Hendry
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Re: [VFB] Thread

[Scott Bearden]

Gudebrod was a polyester based thread where many brands are nylon based. A
few offer polyester and nylon threads but often the polyester is more like
floss and tends to fray. UTC and UNI come to mind. The closest threads on
the market right now to what Gudebrod made is Hook and Hackle's Eurothreads
and Veevus. Gudebrod got their thread from somewhere. Eurothread popped up
shortly after Gudebrod's demise. All I am saying is the source is still out
there and somebody is using it.

Scott


On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:30 PM, wayneb22...@yahoo.com <
wayneb22...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Rumors abound on the internet that Gudebrod is coming back but not hear
> yet.
>
> I can't wait to try the NOS Gudebrod silk I just bought on evilbay.
>
> Wayneb
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
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> * From: * Anthony Spezio ;
> * To: * vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ;
> * Subject: * Re: [VFB] Thread
> * Sent: * Wed, Feb 26, 2014 3:04:38 AM
>
>   I read somewhere where some other company is now making the same thread
> as Gudebrod made. I don't remember where I saw it.
> Tony
>
>
>   On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 7:56 PM, Chuck Alexander <
> chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>Yeah, that's how it goes. Some ppl love vanilla ice cream, and some
> love chocolate (I love BOTH). But I too, would go back to Guderbrod if they
> fired it back up for fly tying as well. Seems like it was about the best
> "all around" thread there was and it was a shame they shut it down. I can
> get all the Guderbrod "coat material" I want, because there is a sewing
> factory only 10 miles or so from us and they make Joseph E. Banks suits,
> which is a high dollar suit, and that's all they use in those is guderbrod
> thread. But I tried it back when my wife worked at that place and they'd
> change out those huge "cones" of thread and she'd get the left overs, which
> still would have 500-1500 yards of thread left on them. I tied a few thread
> bodied flies like ants, and black widow spiders, but otherwise it's a
> TOTALLY different thread from that that they mad for fly tying. Chuck
>
>  *From:* wayneb22...@yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:50 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Thread
>
>  So funny, I swear by 6/0 & 8/0 unithread and me don't like Danville. I
> would tie with Gudebrod if it comes back, like that one a lot!
> Wayneb
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
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>   *From: *Chuck Alexander ;
> *To: *;
> *Subject: *Re: [VFB] Thread
> *Sent: *Tue, Feb 25, 2014 10:20:21 PM
>
>   Gary: I agree. I "swear by" Danville's Fly master plus.  I've heard
> others say they wouldn't have that "cheap stuff" in their tying room.
> "Find, send it on to ME" is my reply LOL... I use 6/0 on bluegill flies,
> and 3/0 on bass flies. Exception to that is that when I'm tying thread body
> "fire ants", Flying blac k ants, and Black widow spiders, I use "Big fly"
> size "B" by Uni products. Works for me. I know pp who swear by Unithread
> sizes 3/0 and 6/0 but I wouldn't habve that in my fly tying room. #1 it's
> too expensive for what you get, and #2 if frays wa too easily for my
> taste. So, I guess it's like girlfriends/boyfriends, wives/husbands in that
> "beauty it in the eye of the Tier  er, uh Beholder" LOL.. Chuck
>
>  *From:* aflyt...@comcast.net
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:06 PM
> *To:* vfb
> *Subject:* [VFB] Thread
>
>  Whats all the fuss over thread?  Find the ones that work for you and use
> them.  What works for Bill may be the very thread John swears at.  What
> works for you is the one you want.
> Gary
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Re: [VFB] Caitlyn Blakehedges

[Scott Bearden]

Awesome job! Her parents raised her well. Congratulations.

Scott


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> Hi All;
>
> My baby girl is doing well:
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> http://clemson.meritpages.com/Caitlyn-Blakehedges/1407206?expand=3363225
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> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] Retirement.

[Scott Bearden]

I still have 20 years to go to get to where Wayne is at now and to be
honest I will probably be working another 20 past that with the way
retirement looks from my vantage point. That's why I try to get out and
fish when I can.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills

[Scott Bearden]

The Dette's is a Catskills institution. I try to visit every time I go up
there. I am sure there are several fly shops nearby worth visiting that are
rich with history.

Scott


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Mike Barrett  wrote:

> Ups, I do go to Dette’s fly shop on the west side of the Willowemoc in
> Roscoe.
>
> https://www.detteflies.com/
>
> Also, there is a casting pond at the BVI. It does have fish but I only
> practice cast with wife to warm up her skills. Maybe, you can convince the
> girls to learn.
>
> Mike
>
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> From: bhen...@cheerful.com
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> CC: jmbarr...@msn.com
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills
>
>
>
> Thanks to all for the excellent responses.  Sounds like Roscoe is the
> place!  And it shouldn't be too difficult to convince the girls that this
> IS the place!
>
> Mike,
>
> I really appreciate your detailed email describing more that just the good
> fishing.  Thank you!  Are you the mayor of roscoe?  8 ~ }
>
> Cheers, y'all,
>   --
>
> Bob Hendry 
> Southern Maryland
>
>
>
> "Every man has to believe in something - I believe I'll go Fishing"
>
> -  *- Henry David Thoreau*
>
> On 1/3/2014 1:49 PM, Mike Barrett wrote:
>
> By the way, the Beaverkill Valley Inn has 1 mile of private water catch and 
> release water on the upper Beaverkill just like 2 miles north of Lew Beach, 
> NY. The 'wall pool' is like no more than 300 feet away where I have caught 22 
> inch rainbows at the head of the pool many times because the BVI is catch and 
> release. This pool is quite long. There are three great pools to fish and 
> twice as many riffles also. There is the bend pool further south, may 800 
> feet away. If you are lucky enough to know someone from the Beaverkill Trout 
> Club a couple of miles south of the BVI, they have 6 miles of private water. 
> You would like to fish within walking distance of the motel/Bed & Breakfast 
> and be in NIRVANA? Well this is it!!! it sounds like you want to make a 
> summer trip. The water will be cool enough to hold the fish even through 
> August and warm enough to wet wade. Bing Maps the Birds Eye view of the 
> address and you will get an idea of their property.
>
> The nice thing about the BVI, is that you must cross the Barnhart Road bridge 
> to get to their property. Their property is separated from the Beaverkill 
> Valley Road by the river.  From the BVI you can get to the East Branch of the 
> Delaware, which has many access points for wade fishing. In August it will 
> still be ice cold from water releases early in the morning, 40 degree range 
> from the bottom of the Pepacton Reservoir Dam in Downsville NY. It is like 
> natures own A/C on a 95 degree August day. They have an indoor swimming pool, 
> indoor basketball court and a self serve ice cream bar. Breakfast is part of 
> your room charge. Last year weekdays were $167/ night and Sunday is a 
> weekday. They serve lunch and dinner, if need be at an additional price. Full 
> course dinners were $50/person with soup, salad, entre and desert. Sometimes 
> with dinner, they have a cocktail hour with hors d'œuvres. It just depends on 
> how many people will be at dinner. They have a nice little bar with go
> od spirits a plenty, fine wine and many craft beers. Tipping is not 
> permitted. If they are not serving dinner, you are allowed to eat at the 
> homeowners association club bar in Lew Beach.
> There is a wonderful wrap around porch for sitting and reading. There are 
> many trails for hiking but it is black bear country so please bring bear mace 
> and/or fog horns. Just google either and make your choice. I alays carry bear 
> mace, a small horn and one 5 inch bowie knife as a last resort.��
>
> From the BVI, you can go fish the covered bridge on the upper Beaverkill NY 
> state park area a few miles away. There is a deep pool there. You can go 
> north on route 206 out of Roscoe and before you cross the Beaverkil River 
> Bridge, there is a torn off on your left to the Beaverkill River. Back down 
> 206 towards Roscoe, there is another acces point. And of Course there is the 
> famous Junction Pool (the Beaverkill and Willowemoc meet to form the lower 
> Beaverkill.
>
> There is a cute little creek with two turn offs for fishing, Mongaup Creek. 
> It is up Mongaup Road which is off of DeBruce Road out of Livinston Manor. 
> Mongaup is a tributory to the Upper Willowemoc, up stream from Livingston 
> Manor. The turnoff to the pool, which I always fish, is the one with the v 
> formed plank dam, the second one after driving up on Mongaup Road. Do not 
> step out onto the dam. It is slick as goat shit. Plus I am not sure that it 
> would support any weight because of its age. A vist to the hatchery on 
> Mongaup creek is worthwhile. It is fed by 1,500 gallons daily of spring 
> water, which just emptys into the lower Mongaup Creek wher

Re: [VFB] Vacation in the Poconos or Catskills

[Scott Bearden]

I vote for Roscoe, NY as well. Lots of places to stay where you can walk
right out to a trout stream. Some places are mere motels and rather spartan
and others are nicer. The Roscoe Motel has the Beaverkill right out behind
your room within 50 ft, but its a motel and I don't know how well that will
go over with the women if they are looking for something a little nicer to
vacation in. The Catskills is full of arts and crafts stuff, lots of
antique shops, etc. There are boundless bed and breakfast places I would
look into. There are lots of places and things to do within 1 hour's drive
of Roscoe and the drives are very scenic. Plus as Tony mentioned, the
Catskills Fly Fishing Center and Museum is just down the road in Livingston
Manor which the girls may not be interested in, but you and your son would
be.

Regards,

Scott


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> The Catskill FF Museum is about 7 miles from there in Livingston Manor.
> Tony
>
>
>   On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:10 PM, Mike Barrett 
> wrote:
>  There is only one place, The Beaverkill Valley Inn. Google their web
> site. I fish there all the time.
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jan 2, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Bob Hendry  wrote:
>
>  Greetings, and Happy New Year to all!
>
> I am soliciting suggestions from any of you familiar with fishing in NE PA
> and W NY.  Instead of vacationing again at the beach in Wildwood, I'd like
> to take the family up a bit further north in the mountains (Poconos or
> Catskills) where fly fishing opportunities abound, AND where the GIRLS, who
> are NOT fishergirls, can find alternative entertainment.  I'm a little
> familiar with Hawley, PA (Lake Wallenpaupack - used to fish there as a
> child).  That was more than 50 years ago . . .
>
> They would like to visit museums, historic sites & points of interest,
> local craft fairs, etc. The boy and I would like to fish within walking
> distance of the motel/Bed & Breakfast.
>
> In other words, a NIRVANA.  8 ~ }  Any and all suggestions are very
> welcome.
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Re: [VFB] FW: [fs-ff] Bay Weekly Article on Free State Fly Fishers by Dennis Doyle

[Scott Bearden]

It looks like you got a new vise too. Congrats on being the picture for the
article.

Scott


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
wrote:

> Hi All;
>
> Im famous,  got my photo in this article LOL!
>
> Wayneb
>
>
>
> Forwarded message
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> Doyle
>
> Bay Weekly Article on Free State Fly Fishers by Dennis Doyle
>
> http://bayweekly.com/articles/regulars/sporting-life-by-dennis-doyle
>
> George Vincent, President
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Re: [VFB] Unithread

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck,

Another thing to keep in mind if you are watching what a spool costs is
that some spools have less yards than you think. Personally I like the
Veevus thread and Hook and Hackle's Euro thread, but whatever you do just
be sure that the price accurately reflects the volume of thread you think
you are buying. I have noticed at some fly fishing and tying shows that
vendors will sell spools with 100yrds instead of 200 and suddenly you are
sucked in by a great price. If you are not married to a particular brand
then by all means bargain shop. I am fussy about thread though. Gudebrod
spoiled me thanks to Tony.

Scott


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Folks: I was just “window shopping at Jann’s Netcraft and noticed that
> their 6/0 prewaxed thread, in 200 yard spools is only 1.39 per spool, or
> $1.23 per spool if you order 12 or more spools. Then, I noticed that
> Unithread is now up to $3.59 per spool, or $3.29 per spool if you order
> more than 12 spools. Am I missing something that is so great about
> Unithread??
>
> I have used that Netcraft’s $1.39 a spool and loved it, but I normally use
> Danville’s Prewaxed Fly master at $1.65 per spool at J. R. Stockard, and
> like I said, it ties forme just as good as any other brand I have ever
> tried. Meanwhile, Unithread is only $2.65, which is nearly a dollar a spool
> cheaper than Netcraft. And everytime I have ever tried to tie with
> Unithread it unravels and gets stuck on the hook barb etc. I’m NOT putting
> down Unithread, because I know of ppl who swear by it. But I was just
> wondering if I’m missing something that makes it $1.00-1.50 per spool
> higher than the other brands I mentioned?? Thanks a lot, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] My stomach/intestinal pains FINALLY have a reason for being there and with an EASY TO FIX remedy I have been praying for...

[Scott Bearden]

Glad to hear they found the problem. When you get off the antibiotics, look
into probiotics. Antibiotics are way over prescribed and as a society if we
don't change that soon we are probably in for some very bad ailments. They
have a drug resistant Tuberculosis that is spreading here in the U.S. Then
there is Mersa, and a long list of dangerous bacteria that have become drug
resistant. In your case a prescription for antibiotics is necessary, but
9/10 cases doctors need to let nature take its course. We never would have
made it past cavemen if we really needed antibiotics. Anyhow one of the
downsides on a personal level is it wipes out all of the bacteria in your
gut, good and bad and now you can't digest food properly and absorb
nutrients the way you are supposed to. This affects you from the obvious
(diarrhea, constipation, bloating, gas, cramps, acid reflux) to the not so
obvious (malnutrition, kidney disease, mental disorders, hair, teeth,
nails, skin). If you have stomach issues chances are you already have an
imbalance in your gut of good bacteria. Some doctors are even linking it to
obesity because people can't digest food properly. I won't recommend any
one brand over another for the simple fact that I try a different brand
each time so that I am exposed to different bacteria all the time. Although
the one that had the most notable impact was probably Phillips Colon
Health. Keep in mind that yogurt while healthy in general is also
pasteurized. Don't buy into the hype with the "live and active cultures".
Of course you can always make your own and if you do I would suggest making
your own sauer kraut or kimchi as well since they are some of nature's best
probiotics. Same problem exists if you buy it in the grocery store being
pasteurized.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Dan  wrote:

> Glad you found out what it is and glad to see it is easy to get rid of!
>
> Thank you God!
>
> Salty Dan
> If at first you don't succeed, maybe you shouldn't try sky diving!
>
> 
> On Mon, 12/9/13, Chuck Alexander  wrote:
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>  Subject: [VFB] My stomach/intestinal pains FINALLY have a reason for
> being there and with an EASY TO FIX remedy I have been praying for...
>  To: "Cheaper Living" , "fly fishing for
> panfish" ,
> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Monday, December 9, 2013, 5:25 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>  My stomach problems..Folks. FINALLY found the problem
>  causing my
>  stomach/intestinal pains. It’s the H pylori (sp) bacteria
>  that they now know is
>  a main cause for things like ulcers (which I do NOT have)
>  and Gastritis (which I
>  DO have. So, my wish and prayers, and those from my family
>  and friends has come
>  true. The Colonoscopy, and upper endoscocy came back good,
>  but they DID find the
>  problem with an “easy to fix” remedy. I am s
>  relieved. y doc’s office called
>  mye in 2 different antibiotics, and a different type anti
>  acid (Prisolec) than
>  the  new med Decalant which I turned out to have a mild
>  reaction to and
>  itched constantly “all over more than anywhere else. So,
>  Thanks a million again
>  to my family and friends for the thoughts and prayers in
>  this manner. Now,
>  hopefully I’ll feel up to getting my boat all cleaned out
>  and ready for the
>  fishing season, which will start here in just a cpl-three
>  months or so. Having
>  your intestines/stomach hurt 24/7 just makes you not feel
>  like doing much of
>  anything, and it’s been a long hard ride, but I can now
>  see the “light at the
>  end of the tunnel. Thanks again. All I can say is thank God
>  for this as I’ve had
>  sooo many friends etc that have had and/or died from
>  colo/rectal cancer in the
>  past, I don’t mind telling you I was scared to death deep
>  down inside.
>  Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??

[Scott Bearden]

FYI Hook and Hackle is offering free shipping today. I doubt they have any
black squirrel though. Black squirrels are pretty rare in the gene pool.
You are better off finding a population of them and bring your pellet
rifle. That or dye the fur.

Scott


On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Gary Webb  wrote:

> Chuck,
>
> A couple of years ago, I could have supplied you with some black squirrel
> tails.  When we first moved into this house the squirrels in our backyard
> were evenly split between the black variant and the normal gray.  But I
> haven't seen a black one for over a year. If one shows up  I'll get my air
> rifle and "knock one off the bird feeder"  We don't live in the city, but
> we're too close to get away with shooting a regular firearm.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:42 PM, the smiths  wrote:
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>>  I have some grey squreel tails I shot off my bird feeders last year.
>> How many do you need?
>> Gary
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Chuck Alexander 
>> *To:* fly fishing for 
>> panfish;
>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 01, 2013 4:25 PM
>> *Subject:* [VFB] Black squirrel tail needed??
>>
>>  Anybody here have a squirrel tailk (or two) You’d sell me?? It’s the
>> only thing I need, and with the price of shipping these days that most
>> online places get, I’d end up paying them $3.95 plus $6.95 to $8.95 S&H in
>> many cases for a tail that weighs about three ounces, If that. Anybody has
>> one or two, I’ll Pay Pal you the moo lah or however you wish to do it. OR,
>> if I have a material you need, we could do a “swap”. Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Peggy Brenner

[Scott Bearden]

This is very sad news! My Condolences to both of them.

Scott


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> Peggy and her husband Jerry were here with us just a week ago. Last night
> Jerry's dad passed on and this morning Peggy's mother passed on. My
> thoughts are with them.
> Tony
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Re: [VFB] Sad news

[Scott Bearden]

Dean was a wonderful man who put on a brave face for a long time. I didn't
know him well, but I got to fish with Tony and him on Crooked Creek once. A
very charming and warm man who will certainly be missed.

Scott


On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> For those of us who have tied at the Sowbug the past few years, we lost a
> great friend this evening.
>
> Tony Spezio called me a bit ago to ask me to let everyone know that Dean
> Darling passed away.  He had been fighting
> cancer for several years.   Dean was the person who registered all tyers
> at the Sowbug until about two or three years
> ago when it became more than he could handle.
>
> Dean was one of the nicest gentlemen one could ever ask to meet and was
> one of Tony's best friends.
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> Condolences to the family and to Tony.
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Re: [VFB] hacked

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My advice is to never ever ever click on those links unless A) there is
tangible context behind sending the link (I never send emails anymore
saying something short like "check this out!" and B) read the text in the
URL. If if doesn't go to a .com or .org or it looks like a bunch of
jibberish, it is best not to click on it and simply ask the sender what the
link is about. It may be a legitimate website after all, but better safe
than sorry.

Once you click on it, you continue the circle of life as it pillages your
email account for contacts.

Scott


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> My email was hacked.
> This is my first message  since Saturday night.
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Re: [VFB] Storms

[Scott Bearden]

Gravel stone.
On Jun 14, 2013 4:50 PM, "Wayne Blake-Hedges"  wrote:

> Interesting, is crooked creek an earthen bottomed water body or
> cravel/stone based?
>
> Wayne
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>   It blows out Crooked Creek every time. The creek totally changes each
> tome. Pools will fill in and new pools made.
> Tony
>
>*From:* Wayne Blake-Hedges 
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> *Sent:* Friday, June 14, 2013 8:56 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Storms
>  Hi All;
> Everyone make it through the recent storm that swept across country ok?
> To tie this to fishing, how do you think a storm effects fishing after it
> passes?
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Re: [VFB] Storms

[Scott Bearden]

I survived. The storm pretty much hit north and south of my house by
several miles so I got lucky. Probably high water in the streams along with
a lot of down trees. Might make for some interesting new pools or at least
obstacles.


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Re: [VFB] Thanks to all

[Scott Bearden]

Chuck,

I am glad to hear she is doing better. You are a good husband. Hang in
there and stay strong.

Regards,

Scott


On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Folks: I’d like to thank everybody who had my wife in their thoughts
> and prayers recently when she had those blood clots in her lungs. I’m happy
> to report that she is MUCH better and even started back to work for the
> first time yesterday afternoon from 4pm till midnight. And she felt great
> after working that long of a shift as well. She’s a “work from home”
> support tech  for Microsoft, and deals with billing problems for their
> X-Box system, and as per her docs orders, I modified her desk/computer so
> that she can sit down fo ra cpl hours, then stand up for a cpl hours, cause
> that sitting for 8-10 hours straight is probably the main factor in
> creating the blood clots.  She is scheduled to work tomorrow from 1:30pm
> till midnight, but that’s a little long right now when she’s still healing,
> so they said she could “jump off” the phones and take an extended 2-3 hour
> lunch break so she can get up and move around like she’s supposed to do.
> She still has a pretty bad cough, but her doc says that it may be with her
> for up to six MONTHS. She has to take six breathing treatments per day, and
> that helps a LOT. 4 of them are Albuterol, and 2 are some type of steriod
> to shrink the swollen bhronchial tubes. Anyway, thanks again, and please
> keep her in your thoughts and prayers till she is 100% back in good health.
> Thanks a million, Chuck (and Billie) Alexander
>
>
> Also, her docs and nurses have ALL been Just GREAT. They are the most
> caring, thoughtful, thorough, and skilled docs and nurses she has ever had.
> She has three doctors and they ALL communicate very well with each other,
> and that makes all the difference in the wolrd because the right hand knows
> exactly what the left hand is doing, and that don’t happen as much as it
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Re: [VFB] JImmy moore swap

[Scott Bearden]

Mine came in the other day. Fantastic flies! I should have spoken up when
they came in.

Scott
On Jun 1, 2013 12:04 PM, "Rick Zieger"  wrote:

> These are the folks that I have not heard from about getting their flies.
> Not bothered by the overseas ones as much as the US ones.
> Thanks for your help on this.
>
> Rick
>
> . Jimmy Moore
> 2. Rene Zillman
> 5. Don Ordes-
> 8. Scott Bearden
> 9. John Sanders
> 11. Neville Gosling
> 14. Bob Haering
> 15. Bob Hendry
> 16. Peggy Brenner
> 19. Joe Fusco Sr
> 20 Keith Passant
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Re: [VFB] RE: warmwater flies/ inchworm

[Scott Bearden]

Since I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 I can tell you it takes great pictures.
There is a macro setting that is pretty easy to find in the camera
application menu. Takes very decent macros too.

My trees look the same right now. But its the cicadas I am worried about. I
just planted a peach tree last year and all of the branches are very thin.
Plus I am sure they will wipe out my grape vine since it is fairly young
too.

Scott


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Wayne Blake-Hedges
wrote:

> The current inchworm infestation is very interesting, I've never seen this
> many before. They start out 1/2 inch long or less and fairly thin. They
> then appear to get longer about an inch, then they thicken and finally
> darken. I don't think they get much longer than two inches.
>
> The attached photo is from my backyard. Tent caterpillars are much bigger,
> they are fairly numerous right now, not as many as proceeding years. I
> wonder if it has something to do with the increase in inchworm.
>
> DonO: if you're interested in a picture of a tent caterpillar let me know.
> I still need to practice taking pictures with my smart phone!
>
> Wayneb
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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies- Pete

[Scott Bearden]

Don,

Out here in the mid-Atlantic states this fly is very much a match the hatch
kind of thing. It is the earliest terrestrial to come out each year. I have
my best luck using this fly unweighted and greased with floatant on a fine
tippet. They tend to lower themselves right into the water and ride the
film to their death. But I am sure it will pass as a caddis larvae as well
once submerged.

Scott


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

 
>
> Only problem is that here in WY I’ve never had much luck with caterpillar
> patterns.  Maybe the greenie will work. 
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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies

[Scott Bearden]

Yes. Some are no longer than my thumb nail. Tiny things. Others are
slightly wider and twice as long. All are the same color, which I suppose
comes from the chlorophyll found in the tender fresh leaves . Charlie Meck
likes to tie in three different lengths to cover them all I guess. I can
attest to the fact that they work great.

Scott


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

>   Is this what it imitates?
>
> [image: spring-creek-4-27-12-012]
>
>  *From:* Scott Bearden 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 14, 2013 2:47 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies
>
>  Bingo!
>
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> Don:
>>
>> http://www.orvis.com/store/**product.aspx?pf_id=02H8<http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=02H8>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/13 4:26 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>>
>>> For you guys who live in the south and in other warm-water areas.
>>> How well do caterpillar flies work?  Are the soft worm-like ones the
>>> best, or the fuzzy ones?
>>> I don't see too many caterpillars for sale in shops.
>>>
>>> DonO
>>>
>>>
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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies

[Scott Bearden]

Bingo!


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> Don:
>
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> On 5/14/13 4:26 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>
>> For you guys who live in the south and in other warm-water areas.
>> How well do caterpillar flies work?  Are the soft worm-like ones the
>> best, or the fuzzy ones?
>> I don't see too many caterpillars for sale in shops.
>>
>> DonO
>>
>>
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Re: [VFB] Warm-water flies

[Scott Bearden]

I don't know so much as about warm water, but along at least the East Coast
trout streams that I am aware of we have vast numbers of tiny green
caterpillars that are active right now and up through the next few more
weeks. They cover the trees as the leaves first unfold in the spring when
they are the most tender and nutrient dense. They are often seen dangling
like a spider from a tiny thread of silk. If you park under a tree it will
become immediately clear just how prolific they are. Trout love them, and
the most popular pattern out here is called the green weenie. On streams
with tight canopies it is worth trying this pattern first from early spring
right up until early summer.

Regards,

Scott


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> For you guys who live in the south and in other warm-water areas.
> How well do caterpillar flies work?  Are the soft worm-like ones the best,
> or the fuzzy ones?
> I don't see too many caterpillars for sale in shops.
>
> DonO
>
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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

The great thing about lead is it is so soft. You could hammer it out
thinner I suppose with little effort. Squeeze it between bench vise jaws or
something similar. I wouldn't want to get into smelting my own lead to pour
in a mould, but it would be fairly simple to make one to your specs.

Scott


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:

> Yes they are called "twist-on's".
>
> I used to have a pkg of them but don't know what I did with them.
>
> We have them at Bas Pro, so I may pick up a pkg today.
>
> The only problem is that they are so thick.
>
> If tying a 14 or 16 you want it a lot thinner then the twist-on's.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
> Some mistakes are just too much fun to make only once.
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:
>
> Alan,
> Years ago I used to buy lead strips to use for weight on the leader. They
> came in packages of about twelve strips. I used to get them at a fly shop.
> They were about 1/32 thick, 1/8" wide and about 3" long. No sticky back on
> them. The shops might still sell them. I don't use weight on my line so I
> never check.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Mon, 5/6/13, Alan Di Somma * wrote:
>
>
> From: Alan Di Somma 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Flat lead
> To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
> Date: Monday, May 6, 2013, 7:49 AM
>
>  Great info . Tnx . I will try them.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
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>
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 3:46 AM, gordon lyall 
> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=glyal...@yahoo.ca>>
> wrote:
>
>   Veniards Adhesive Lead Foil
> Most fly shops sell it.
>
>   *From:* Scott Bearden 
> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com>
> >
> *To:* 
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> *Sent:* Sunday, May 5, 2013 8:58:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Flat lead
>
>  It provides weight for balance to help fine tune golf clubs.
> On May 5, 2013 8:55 PM, 
> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phxflyt...@cox.net>>
> wrote:
>
>   Scott:
>
> What do golfers use the flat lead for?
>
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
>
>
>
>  *From:* Scott 
> Bearden<http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott.bear...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2013 5:38 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Flat lead
>
>  Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
> sporting goods store that carries golf stuff might carry it. I have also
> seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
> cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Alan Di Somma 
> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phxflyt...@cox.net>
> > wrote:
>
> I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
> to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
> was flat.
> Does anyone know where to get this?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
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>
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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

Wapsi also makes this. It comes in a package that resembles a match book.
But I have only received them as samples. I have never seen them in a fly
shop.

I have never seen the veniards lead either. It may be a European/Canadian
thing. I am fortunate that I don't have to do mail order for most of my
supplies and I suspect I would have to find somewhere that will mail it to
me. But like I said, there are other sources out there. Sometimes just
marketing the same thing for fly fishing adds a few dollars in mark up over
essentially the same product.

Scott


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Alan,
> Years ago I used to buy lead strips to use for weight on the leader. They
> came in packages of about twelve strips. I used to get them at a fly shop.
> They were about 1/32 thick, 1/8" wide and about 3" long. No sticky back on
> them. The shops might still sell them. I don't use weight on my line so I
> never check.
> Tony
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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

It provides weight for balance to help fine tune golf clubs.
On May 5, 2013 8:55 PM,  wrote:

>   Scott:
>
> What do golfers use the flat lead for?
>
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
>
>
>
>  *From:* Scott Bearden 
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 05, 2013 5:38 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Flat lead
>
>  Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
> sporting goods store that carries golf stuff might carry it. I have also
> seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
> cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Alan Di Somma  wrote:
>
>> I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
>> to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
>> was flat.
>> Does anyone know where to get this?
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>> Phoenix, AZ.
>>
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Re: [VFB] Flat lead

[Scott Bearden]

Most golf pro shops will sell sheets of flat, sticky backed lead. A good
sporting goods store that carries golf stuff might carry it. I have also
seen it in the hardware store to balance the blades on ceiling fans, but it
cost 10 times as much  for just a tiny patch of the stuff.

Scott


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> I was watching a video for tying the Tellico and it showed adding weight
> to make it sink real fast. It was not the conventional lead wire, but it
> was flat.
> Does anyone know where to get this?
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Thank You,
> Alan Di Somma
> Phoenix, AZ.
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Re: [VFB] JM swap update

[Scott Bearden]

These are due like now, right? I might need a couple more days before I can
get mine out in the mail.

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Gudebrod "G" Thread?

[Scott Bearden]

Gudebrod was polyester, which is why they were drastically different than
Uni and Danville, which are nylon. The stuff my wife has in her embroidery
basket is all cotton. Maybe that is just what she prefers. I know that is
just anecdotal, but it is worth reading the labels before you buy just to
be sure.

The reason why I liked Gudebrod so much is that it was very thin and very
strong, it was able to untwist and lay down flat without fraying and I was
able to get thinner build up on the head of a fly.


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> **
>
> Gudebrod was all silk, wasn't it?  Might there be an advantage to using
> Pearsall's?
>
> Embroidery thread is generally polyester - I think.  Maybe better for a
> dry fly?
>
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>
> On 4/10/2013 13:37, Wayne Blake-Hedges wrote:
>
>   Embroidery thread, mamy use it for woven bodies. It's typically six
> strand, use as many strands as you need to obtain thickness desired. I
> imagine a single strand would be pretty close in thickness to Gudebrod G
> thread.
>
> Wayneb
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>   Hi Tony,
>
> I'd like to try to learn to weave a Mayfly body (extended)  Your CD is
> great for this, but I can't find the Gudebrod thread that yoou use.  Are
> you (or anyone else) aware of a suitable substitued?  Colors?
>
> I watched several YouTube videos that used everything from antron yarn to
> embrodery thread.  My goal is to mimic the tight, small body you made; I'm
> afraid that antron might be too heavy?  Thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [VFB] Substitute for Gudebrod "G" Thread?

[Scott Bearden]

Just make sure that embroidery thread isn't cotton. You will probably have
to use something like Danville, Uni, or Wapsi (UTC) 210 denier since
Gudebrod G was between 270 and 303 denier. Wapsi also makes a 280 denier,
and just so happens to be made from polyester, the same as Gudebrod. The
others are nylon. Does it make a difference? Buy one of each and decide for
yourself. My two favorites for Gudebrod alternatives are Hook and Hackle's
Euro threads and the new Veevus thread. Both are made of polyester, but
they also come in very fine sizes only.

Gudebrod was the supplier for Orvis' thread, but since they went out of
business there is no telling who makes their thread now. Since Al mentioned
Orvis I checked their website and they do carry their thread in a size G.
For $2 it wouldn't hurt to check it out.

Scott


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> thread.
>
> Wayneb
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>
>   Hi Tony,
>
> I'd like to try to learn to weave a Mayfly body (extended)  Your CD is
> great for this, but I can't find the Gudebrod thread that yoou use.  Are
> you (or anyone else) aware of a suitable substitued?  Colors?
>
> I watched several YouTube videos that used everything from antron yarn to
> embrodery thread.  My goal is to mimic the tight, small body you made; I'm
> afraid that antron might be too heavy?  Thoughts?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

As much as a novelty as these are, I wonder how many people have caught
fish on them? Surely there is a club, just like the 20/20 club.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Cicada pattern

[Scott Bearden]

The reason Wayne is probably asking is because the Mid Atlantic Region is
in for an EPIC cicada year that is supposed to be even bigger than the
brood that hatched back in 2004. When the cicadas hatch, they are the only
meal in town for about 6 weeks regardless of whatever else is hatching at
the time. For the trout and smallmouth in our neck of the woods it is kind
of like "why go for the usual salad bar when it is all you can eat T-Bone
night"? For those that have never seen one of the big cicada hatches, when
I say epic, I mean epic on biblical proportions. I know people who have
them confused with locusts. Every summer cicadas hatch, but there are some
broods that stay under ground for 13-17 years and when they emerge look
out. They will cover your car. Their carcasses will litter every inch of
the sidewalk so when you walk every step is crunchy.

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Re: [VFB] test Jimmy D Swap

[Scott Bearden]

I thought we took the swap offline?

Scott


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> Testing.  Checking on the Jimmy D Swap. If you're not in the swap,
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

You can count me in too. I still have a bunch of 28's I can practice on.
The Tiemco 30 is about the same size as the Mustad 26.


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Michael Bliss  wrote:

> I would give it a shot again.  I may have to practice on the Tiemco 30's
> before I do the Mustad.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Anthony Spezio wrote:
>
>> We both need to use SPELL CHECK. LOL
>> Tony
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/4/13, Allan Fish * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Allan Fish 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
>> To: "vfb-mail@googlegroups.com" 
>> Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013, 2:17 PM
>>
>>
>>  Ar that time I knew I couldn't do a size 32. Since then, I've tied a
>> couple of 28's.  If I had more than one hook, I might tackle a 32, but I'd
>> probably have to dose myself with a full bottle of tranquilizers first to
>> steady my hands.
>>
>> af
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 2:57 PM, Anthony Spezio 
>> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>It was an honor to have me on thet page. I think I tied a better fly
>> on the sz 32 later on.
>> Tony
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 4/4/13, 
>> phxflyt...@cox.net
>> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=phxflyt...@cox.net>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: 
>> phxflyt...@cox.net<
>> phxflyt...@cox.net
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
>> To: 
>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Thursday, April 4, 2013, 11:44 AM
>>
>>   Wow!  what a page.
>> A “who’s who” of tying for sure..
>>
>> Thank You,
>> Alan Di Somma
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Hans 
>> Weilenmann
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:21 AM
>> *To:* 
>> vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
>>
>>Tony,
>>
>> They are an unofficial part of Flytier's Page - one of these
>> days/months/years I will summon up the courage to handle and photograph
>> them again - go easy on the image quality, they stem from the analog film
>> days.
>>
>> That said - _any_ fly tied on this small hook is a credit to the tier.
>>
>> http://www.danica.com/flytier/sfp/sfp.htm
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans W
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Anthony Spezio 
>> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>   Hans, Can you post the page those flies are on. I lost that
>> information in a computer glitch some years ago.
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  You have a Friend in Low Places 
>> Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands
>> http://www.danica.com/flytier
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

I don't believe you have ever shown them to me. I would love to see them in
person. You know I love tying and fishing small flies. I have only seen
pictures of them on the internet and it is usually on or next to a dime for
comparison. I think the smallest Mustads I own are 28. They were not
terribly expensive.

Scott


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> Scott,
> They have not been in production for many years. At the time I bought
> these from Canada it was the last 25 she had. I think I paid about five
> dollars plus postage. To my it was a real good buy.
> Did I ever show them to you when you were here. If not, I will show you
> what I have left when you come up in October.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/3/13, Scott Bearden * wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Bearden 
>
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 10:42 PM
>
>  What was the going price when they were still in full production?
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony Spezio 
> http://us.mc1625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bambot...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   I had 25 of them I bought from a place in Canada many years ago. I tied
> seven flies on them and gave some away. I still have a couple. one of my
> flies along with some from other list members can be seen on Hans;s
> web page om Global flyfishing I think it is. I think Don's Royal Coachman
> is on that page too if I am not mistaken.
>  Tony
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Re: [VFB] Mustad size 32

[Scott Bearden]

What was the going price when they were still in full production?

Scott


On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> I had 25 of them I bought from a place in Canada many years ago. I tied
> seven flies on them and gave some away. I still have a couple. one of my
> flies along with some from other list members can be seen on Hans;s
> web page om Global flyfishing I think it is. I think Don's Royal Coachman
> is on that page too if I am not mistaken.
>  Tony
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Re: [VFB] Update on Tony?

[Scott Bearden]

I have not heard anything yet. I will give them a call tonight. I need to
tie up some flies I promised to Tony, so maybe I will do that tonight while
I am thinking about it.

Regards,

Scott


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> **
> Has anyone heard from Tony or Dot?  He had his kidney procedure yesterday;
> just hoping and praying that all went well.
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Re: [VFB] test

[Scott Bearden]

Well when we aren't picking on Don O things get a little slow around here.


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>> Naw, just didn't get any email since 12 a.m.
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Re: [VFB] Re: Peggys swarm has arrived!

[Scott Bearden]

Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids! Besides, I have met Nev and he is not
Daffy.


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> **
> *No *wabbits.  Out of season.  It's *duck* season now!  Open season on *Daffy
> Duck Nev*.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Scott Bearden 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2013 11:53 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Re: Peggys swarm has arrived!
>
> Memo received. Lock and load. Commence firing at will. We hunting wabbits?
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:
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>> On 3/25/13 1:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
>>
>>> Mr Physsh,
>>>
>>> What's this???  Beat up on 'ol DonO week?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Absolutely, Don.
>>
>> A memorandum went out, but it appears that only Nev & I responded to it.
>>
>> Buncha slackers on the list.
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Re: [VFB] Re: Peggys swarm has arrived!

[Scott Bearden]

Memo received. Lock and load. Commence firing at will. We hunting wabbits?


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> On 3/25/13 1:27 PM, Don Ordes wrote:
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>> Mr Physsh,
>>
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>>
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> Absolutely, Don.
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Re: [VFB] Ji8mmy Moore Swap closed

[Scott Bearden]

What Neville said. That still keeps us at 20.

Scott


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Scott Bearden wrote:

> I think we didn't go over 20. Denny is in there as the last person and
> Mike's name was listed twice. So that makes for 19 tyers.
>
> Scott
>
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> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, rene.zillmann 
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>> I don't like the idea that Bob H drops out if we get more than 20 folks
>> on the swap. I do the extra for him. Pls send pattern.  Maybe I have to
>> change it a bit due to materials.  Rene
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>>
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Joyce 
>> Date:
>> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [VFB] Ji8mmy Moore Swap closed
>>
>>
>> Where is
>> Denny Conrad..I do not see him on this list? Joyce
>>
>> "Jimmy D. Moore"  wrote:
>>
>> >Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?
>> >
>> >Rick Zieger wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Here is the list,  got a few emails that wanted the number at 20.
>> >> Rick Zieger
>> >> 28433 N State
>> >> Lamoni,Ia  50140
>> >>
>> >> Jimmy Moore Swap
>> >> 1. Jimmy Moore
>> >> 2. Rene Zillman
>> >> 3. Rick Zieger
>> >> 4. Mike Bliss
>> >> 5. Don Ordes
>> >> 6. Alan Di Somma
>> >> 7. Tony Spezio
>> >> 8. Scott Bearden
>> >> 9. John Sanders
>> >> 10. Allan Fish
>> >> 11. Neville Gosling
>> >> 12. Gary Webb
>> >> 13. Joyce Westphal
>> >> 14. Bob Haering
>> >> 15. Bob Hendry
>> >> 16. Keith Passant
>> >> 17. Mike Bliss
>> >> 18. Wayne Blake-Hedges
>> >> 19. Joe Fusco
>> >> 20. Dennis Conrad
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>> R

Re: [VFB] Ji8mmy Moore Swap closed

[Scott Bearden]

I think we didn't go over 20. Denny is in there as the last person and
Mike's name was listed twice. So that makes for 19 tyers.

Scott


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, rene.zillmann wrote:

> I don't like the idea that Bob H drops out if we get more than 20 folks on
> the swap. I do the extra for him. Pls send pattern.  Maybe I have to change
> it a bit due to materials.  Rene
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
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>  Original message 
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> Where is
> Denny Conrad..I do not see him on this list? Joyce
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> "Jimmy D. Moore"  wrote:
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> >Good job, Rick.  JIMMY D. You taking the swap off list just yet?
> >
> >Rick Zieger wrote:
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> >> 28433 N State
> >> Lamoni,Ia  50140
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> >> 1. Jimmy Moore
> >> 2. Rene Zillman
> >> 3. Rick Zieger
> >> 4. Mike Bliss
> >> 5. Don Ordes
> >> 6. Alan Di Somma
> >> 7. Tony Spezio
> >> 8. Scott Bearden
> >> 9. John Sanders
> >> 10. Allan Fish
> >> 11. Neville Gosling
> >> 12. Gary Webb
> >> 13. Joyce Westphal
> >> 14. Bob Haering
> >> 15. Bob Hendry
> >> 16. Keith Passant
> >> 17. Mike Bliss
> >> 18. Wayne Blake-Hedges
> >> 19. Joe Fusco
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy Moore swap

[Scott Bearden]

Put me down. What to tie? What to tie...

Scott


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Rick Zieger  wrote:

> Size 10 or larger hook.  pattern  whatever you decide.
> Due May 1, 2013.  I will Meister.
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Re: [VFB] RE: One week till SowBug!

[Scott Bearden]

We are looking forward to seeing you too, Tony. Twice a year for me ain't
enough.

Scott


On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

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> The room for you and Scott is ready. Looking fwd to having you guys here.
> Tony
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> --- On *Thu, 3/7/13, Wayne Blake-Hedges * wrote:
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> From: Wayne Blake-Hedges 
> Subject: [VFB] RE: One week till SowBug!
> To: "virtual flybox" 
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>I'm looking toward to SowBug!
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Re: [VFB] RE: One week till SowBug!

[Scott Bearden]

I can't wait either. Mountain Home or bust!

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Tony Spezio

[Scott Bearden]

If you talk to him again before I do, let him know he is in my thoughts and
prayers. I wish I were out there now so I could help out.

Scott


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Allan Fish  wrote:

> I got a call from Tony.  His phone was about dead and he wanted me to let
> folks know that he's back in the hospital with another TIA and bad inner
> ear infection.
>
> He said he won't be able to get his charger before tomorrow, so calls
> probably won't go through.
>
> He has no idea how long they will keep him in the hospital.
>
> His biggest worry is whether he'll be up to tying at Sowbug in three weeks.
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

Sorry to hear about that. I was looking forward to seeing you. Make a
speedy recovery and if we don't see you this year, you will be missed!

Scott


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Joseph Fusco, Sr. wrote:

> *Allan -*
> *
> *
> *I will most likely not make it to Sowbug this year.  I had plans to be
> there but things have gotten a little crazy, health wise, and I just can't
> see me making the trip.  I'll be there, if I can make it - BUT - it  is
> very doubtful.  I had hoped to be there to share some flies I've tied with
> the materials we recently traded.  If I don't make it, I'll send you a few
> later on.
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug swap update.

[Scott Bearden]

Boy what a motley crew we are!


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> For those attending SowBug.  I will get the flies there  from you and
> divide them up.
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> 1. Rick Zieger
> 2. Allan Fish
> 3. Scott Bearden
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Re: [VFB] Sage Fly Rods

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Chuck,

Several things to consider here. One is that part of the cost is the labor,
another is R&D, materials, warranty, and total cost of operations.
Obviously if one is made offshore it is likely being made for pennies on
the dollar. If the employee in China is being paid $0.70 an hour to make an
iPhone 5, then consider that shaping cork handles or wrapping guides
probably pays $0.05 an hour. Some companies have lower end models made
overseas and save the better stuff to be made in the US, Canada, or in
Hardy's case the UK. Usually quality control isn't an issue in these cases,
but you are getting something that the materials cost less as well. Maybe
carbon fiber that was cutting edge 20 years ago that is now cheap to
produce, vs thinner and stronger carbon fiber that was just developed
within the last couple of years. Does it make a difference? Cast them and
judge for yourself. Even blindfold yourself and do a blind casting
comparison to remove any bias.

Since this great recession I have saved my dollars to buy American. Nothing
racist, but rather I believe that we are destroying ourselves and weakening
our dollar every time we purchase something overseas. If I were Chinese, I
would patriotically buy Chinese made goods, or if I were German, I would
buy German made goods. You can't really do this 100%, but when I can, I
make it a point to buy American. We were the greatest manufacturer in the
world from about the 1880s to the 1980s. Our money is leaving this country
for imports faster than we can bring money in from our own exports. If we
don't reverse that trend soon... American manufacturers like Sage and Abel
have made a point to not offshore, not cut corners for the sake of chasing
the bottom of the market. I recently replaced my aged and leaking Cabelas
waders for a pair Sims G4s for this very reason. And I can tell you without
a doubt that pinching my pennies for it was worth it to me. They are
without doubt the best made pair of waders I have ever used, seen, touched,
etc.

All else considered, Sage stands by their products. Most companies do, but
in Sage's case I can speak from experience of a close friend of mine whose
rod broke (from a likely hook ding) and not only did they replace it
without question, but when the replacement was lost in the mail they
expedited another replacement to him. They shipped it overnight in fact.
You pay for that kind of service. A lot of offshore budget line products
come with a very limited warranty. That warranty factors into the total
cost of the product and the manufacturer has to leave enough profit in
there to stand by their product. Not that every single rod is going to need
replacing, but they do need to factor that into the cost.

Now if you really want something (anything really) high quality, even
luxury goods, and it is out of your price range then you might want to try
the second hand market. You may not get the latest and greatest, but you
are still buying a piece of that dream. And I know you are frugal, so this
is a more practical approach for the budget conscious.

Regards,

Scott


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Chuck Alexander <
chuckalexan...@centurylink.net> wrote:

>   Folks: I just downloaded and started watching a video called “Sage Fly
> Rods: Made in America” and it takes you on a tour of their factory, which
> is on an Island just off Seattle Washington, and tells about how great the
> fly rods are etc. Are their flyrods REALLY “THAT GOOD”?? Are they REALLY
> worth the prices they charge??  I have never casted one, but I have always
> told ppl that I think I’d put my $100 St Croix “Premier” against any rod on
> the market. And the Bamboo rod Tony built for me puts that St. Croix to
> shame. But that is sorta comparing apples to oranges to me, the bamboo vs.
> the Graphite rod, cause they are just totally different in their action
> etc. But anyway, the cheapest Sage I have seen, I believe is about  $300
> And that is for their “entry level” rods. Are they REALLY worth the money
> or is it like a lot of things and you are paying for that “name brand”??
> Thanks, Chuck
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug swap

[Scott Bearden]

Yeah, if we are going to do this then time is a tickin'


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> 1.  Rick Zieger
> 2. Allan Fish
> 3. Scott Bearden
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> is there anymore interest.
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Re: [VFB] SOW BUG

[Scott Bearden]

Yep. I will be there.

Scott


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> How many FB members are going to the 16th annual Sow Bug?
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Re: [VFB] Flymph and Streamer Swap update 1/28/13

[Scott Bearden]

Do you still need streamers? Since I owe you postage, that may be a good
way to redeem myself!

Regards,

Scott


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Peggy Brenner wrote:

>
> I'll keep us up to date on arrivals each week, so far the postal service
> has been good for us.
>
> Address is:
>
> 266 N River Rd
> Milford, NH 03055
>
>
> So it's 13 flymphs and 11 streamers.
>
>
> > Thirteen  tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of
> the flymph a spider type would be a great sub.
> >
> > 1 Peggy B- Light Cahill ARRIVED
> > 2Neville Gosling-Hotspot Flymph - ARRIVED
> > 3Michael Bliss-Hares ear flymph-ARRIVED
> > 4Joe Fusco-Leviathin-ARRIVED
> > 5Scott Bearden -ARRIVED
> > 6Joyce Westfall-Iron Blue Dun-ARRIVED
> > 7Allan Fish-PMD flymph-ARRIVED First
> > 8Rene Zillman -Black & Orange Flymph - ARRIVED
> > 9Jim Hodson-Little Green Caddis - ARRIVED
> > 10Jerry McKaughan-Pheasant tail-ARRIVED
> > 11Keith Passant-ARRIVED
> > 12Ashley Strutt-Partridge morning dun-ARRIVED
> > 13Bob Hendry Mayfly Flymph-ARRIVED
> >
> > Streamers, with wood duck or similar duck for  wings, these are
> smaller casting streamers used in New England and any waters that hold
> trout. Due February 1, 2013
> >
> > 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon-ARRIVED
> > 2Neville Gosling-Nev's Aura-ARRIVED
> > 3Michael Bliss
> > 4Rene Zillman -Black and White Ora Smith - ARRIVED
> > 5Jerry McKaughan-CRO Woodduck Streamer-ARRIVED
> > 6Ashley Strutt-Caleste-ARRIVED
> > 7Keith Passant
> > 8Robert Morger
> > 9Dan Harrington
> > 10 Joyce Westfall-ARRIVED FIRST
> 11. Joe Fusco
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

I will miss seeing you there as well, Neville. Having priorities is a good
thing and family should always come first. The next time you come out I can
pick you up from the airport and take you wherever you want to go.

Regards,

Scott


On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:

> I regret that I won't be able to make it this year.  My son moved to
> Belgium in October to be with his Belgian girlfriend but so far has not
> found any work and his finances are lean to say the least so Dad and family
> have been helping out a bit.   A trip to the sowbug ( I went 2 years ago)
> is quite expensive when one adds up the cost of accommodation, food,
> travel, car hire etc.  I would certainly like to go back. Maybe when my son
> repays me
>
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling
> Greater Vancouver
> BC  Canada
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>
>
>
> On 2013-01-04, at 7:32 AM, Rick Zieger wrote:
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> How many folks are going to show up?
> Any interest in a fly swap for those coming?
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> Rick
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug

[Scott Bearden]

I will be tying at the show. I will participate in a swap. I think we
normally exchange a few flies any how. I will just have them tied up in
advance this time.

Scott


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Re: [VFB] Peggy's Snail Mail

[Scott Bearden]

Thanks! I needed it to. My flymphs are going in the mail tomorrow.

Scott


On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Thomas R. Eckert
wrote:

> **
>
> Peggy Brenner
>
> (Six Sisters Flybox)
>
> 266 N. River Rd.
>
> Milford, NH 03055
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> 
>
> All those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my 
> hand.
> 
>
> 
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> ** **
>
> *Thomas R. Eckert* 
>
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> CH 8032 Zürich 7 ZH
> Switzerland 
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> Tel.: 
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> *Von:* **vfb-mail@googlegroups.com** [mailto:**vfb-mail@googlegroups.com**]
> *Im Auftrag von *Michael Bliss
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 27. Dezember 2012 10:44
> *An:* **vfb-mail@googlegroups.com**
> *Betreff:* [VFB] Peggy's Snail Mail
>
> ** **
>
> I need Peggy's mailing address.  I cannot find it.
>
> ** **
>
> Mike
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Re: [VFB] Fly how are you

[Scott Bearden]

Not only is it spam, it is phishing. If you click on that link it could do
any number of things starting with raiding every email address in your
email client. I have friends who have had their whole hard drives wiped
after clicking on what appears to be a innocent link sent from a friend.

Scott

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> This is Spam.
> Tony
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Re: [VFB] Stuff

[Scott Bearden]

Actually it ALL ends on the 21st so none of this really matters! :-P



On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:02 PM, J Balmer  wrote:

>  12/12/12 will happen again, just not any time soonJ
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Anthony Spezio
> *Sent:* Monday, November 19, 2012 1:44 PM
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Stuff
>
> ** **
>
> Ant the 12th of next month will be 12, 12 12.
>
> It can't happen again.
>
> Tony
>
> --- On *Mon, 11/19/12, Allan Fish * wrote:
>
>
> From: Allan Fish 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Stuff
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 1:30 PM
>
>
> On 11/19/12 2:00 PM, Jimmy D. Moore wrote: 
>
> All is OK, but the calendar that was supposed to be attached didn't come
> through 
>
>
> Only month this year that does that.
>
> Let's see:
> May 2010
> January 2011
> December 2012
> None in 2013 (June would have, but it's only 30 days)
> February 2014 (November 2014 would have, but it's only 30 days)
>
> The key - it has to be a 31-day month that starts on Saturday.
>
>
> We could go to "long weekends, with 5 Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays and
> we would see those in
> January and October 2010
> July 2011
> None in 2012 (June & Sept. started right but only 30 days long)
> March 2013 (November - 30 days)
> August 2014.
>
> I find calendars interesting.  Heck, at my age, they're almost more
> interesting than young girls.
>
> ALMOST!!!
>
> HAPPY THANKSGIVING.
>
> Al
>
>
> 
>
> December 2012 has five saturdays, five sundays and five mondays.
>
> JIMMY 
>
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Re: [VFB] Gudebrod thread

[Scott Bearden]

Tony turned me on to Gudebrod, but it was right at the end of their fly
tying thread days. I went on an exhaustive search for a suitable
replacement and I found that Hook and Hackle's Euro Thread is a very close
match. Both threads are polyester and the 12/0 Euro thread is perfect for
the midges that I like to tie. The diameter is much finer than other
"midge" threads. I will have to try some of this Veevus thread you guys
have been talking about. It is more expensive, but if it is as good I will
use it.

Scott


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> I thought I'd re-post this site with the gudebrod thread at an amazing
> price and selection, Chuck
>
> http://www.versitex.com/versitex/product.html?Id=FTTGBCCOL#7530
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update now fly rod

[Scott Bearden]

 Tony,

Can you send us a link? The picture I saw is of him in the Oval office
holding the butt section with the reel attached. On one hand it looked to
me like he was admiring a gift that his staff just surprised him with.
However it also looks like he is trying to hold it like a spey rod. Every
newbie casts like crap, otherwise Joan Wolf and and army of casting
instructors around the world would be out of business. We all had to start
somewhere.

Scott

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

>   Did you see how he is holding it.
> I have never seen the photo before.
> Tony
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Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update

[Scott Bearden]

There is actually great fly fishing right around Camp David. And trust me,
they are not moving it to Colorado.

Tony, I believe that photo you speak of is actually in the Oval Office back
in 2009 when a number of his staffers got together and bought it for his
birthday. I am not sure he has been out fly fishing since he vacationed in
Yellowstone back in 2009.

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Don Ordes  wrote:

> **
> The wilderness is too hard for the secret service to secure.
>
>
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Anthony Spezio 
> *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 1:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update
>
>   Have you seen the photo of the President holding a fly rod with others
> watching him. He is inside of a building. I will say no more for fear of
> offending someone. The photo was posted on Facebook. Maybe you are right
> about Colorado.
> Tony
>
> --- On *Tue, 11/13/12, Don Ordes * wrote:
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>
> From: Don Ordes 
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Jimmy D. Update
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 12:23 PM
>
>  Hi JimmyD,
>
> Great to hear from you again.  And thanks for the health update.  Really
> glad you are on the mend.
>
> Spend more time flyfishing in Colorado to relieve yourself of those
> tremors.  LOL  Or Washington.
>
> Heard the White House is going to move Camp David to Colorado.  Must have
> to do with
> fly fishing.
>
> DonO
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jimmy D. 
> Moore
> *To:* 
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:07 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Jimmy D. Update
>
> Hi Gang,  Sorry about being absent from the list so long.  Lotta
> catching up to do.
>
> Things are looking better.  I meet with the Baylor Sports Medical
> Group led by Doctor Jon Ellis each Thursday. Doc's group is the
> one that takes care of all injuries, etc. for, Baylor especially football.
> Highly recommended by Steve Corwin, one of my fly fishing Buds.
>
> I meet with him or one of his PA's each Thursday. Spend an hour doing
> really tough excercises with my feet.  He said that basically he would
> be re-building my FLAT feet, not to worry, they'll  Git-Er-Done. I can
> tell that my anklesare getting better.  If this keeps up, his 6 month plan
> will make a new man out of me. Soon as I finish the foot stuff, I'll move
> to my calves and thighs which have atrophied,  because of not being able
> to work them out on my Nautilis :knock off weight machine. The feet
> play a big part in my calves and thighs. Push with ankles, leg lifts,
> ankles. Not doing much walking outside of  walmart and HEB grocery.
>
>
> That's the good stuff.  Now, the not so good. I've been diagnosed with
> Essential Tremor.  I have very small tremors in my hands, which really,
> don't bother me except when I get aggravated or frustrated.  Even then
> the tremors don't interfere with anything, because when I think about
> it, the tremor goes away. t.
>
> Funny thing. .When a temor starts, I can just (tell it to quit, in my mind
> in my mind and it does.  No shaking when holding coffee cup, fork,
> etc. I can hold my notes and there's no tremor.  I can hold a sheet of
> paper and No Tremor, mind takes over and prevents the shaking
> My only bother is when I really get PO'ed , then my hands will shake
> until I tell them to stop. They Stop. very rare for essential tremor to
> morph into Parkinsons.  We have no family history of it.
>
> Doc said if the tremors start bothering me, he can give me a medication
> that will control them. The doc said most people with essential tremor
> never seek treatment never seek medical help.
>
> My back still acts up, but it's been six months since I last  had a
> chiropractic
> treatment..  The pain on/in my sacroaliac comes and goes. A hot shower
> usually
> quiets it down.
>
> JIMMY  D
>
> P. S. I've had no problems tying my flies and I'm optimistic about the foot
> getting back into good enough shape to *WADE !!!* :-)
>
> No decision yet on SOW BUG :-\
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Re: [VFB] Sowbug 2013

[Scott Bearden]

Go to Sowbug. Fortunes can change between now and September.


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> I got my invite today and have a decision to make, Sowbug or the IFFF
> Faire in Montana in September, can only do 1.  And if I go to Sowbug I'll
> be looking at real estate.
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Re: [VFB] Flymph OVER FULL and Streamers Swap

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I am in agreement with 13.


Scott

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Joyce M Westphal  wrote:
> Let's do an even dozen and perhaps an extra for the swapmeisterin.  Joyce

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Re: [VFB] Sandy

[Scott Bearden]

We suffered no storm damage. A bunch of downed trees everywhere that
magically missed the power lines. Some neighborhoods are out though.

Scott

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> My daughters in N.J. are OK, they have a lot of clean up to do. No power
> yet.
> How are the rest of you guys on the East Coast doing. Hope as well as my
> kids did.
> Arkansas Tony
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Re: [VFB] It's swap time! How about Flymph's and Streamers, with Wood Duck wings.

[Scott Bearden]

Peggy,

Put me down for a flymph as well.

Thanks,

Scott

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Peggy Brenner
 wrote:
> Ten tyers, and due January 1, 2013, and if you are not sure of the flymph a
> spider type would be a great sub.
>
> 1 Peggy B
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> 6
> 7
> 8
> 9
> 10
>
> Streamers, with wood duck wings, these are smaller casting streamers used in
> New England.  Due February 1, 2013
>
> 1 Peggy Brenner - Ora Smith style Red Demon
> 2
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Re: [VFB] re: Sandy

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The weather channel said it hit Atlantic City dead on. Hopefully they get
power returned soon. It gets cold in a house fast this time of year. So far
I have been lucky, but the lights keep flickering reminding me that my
power could go at any time. It is high tide right now at 8:20pm and
supposedly there are ten foot waves on the Potomac.I live about 4 miles
away, but I am not going to go out and look.

Scott

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> I have two daughters with family living just a few miles from Atlantic
> City. So far they are OK but no power. The storm made land fall about 20
> minuets ago at Atlantic City .
> Tony
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>
> From: Joyce M Westphal 
> Subject: [VFB] re: Sandy
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 5:53 PM
>
>
> Thinking of all my FF friends in the storm area and watching the weather
> channel. Prayers for your safety..appreciate updates. Here's hoping that
> you will continue to have power.  Joyce
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Re: [VFB] An idea for a swap

[Scott Bearden]

I would participate. I bought the attachment for my Nor-vise and
haven't used it yet.

Scott

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 6:47 PM,   wrote:
> I am wondering if there would be an interest in a tube fly swap.  Just
> testing the waters right now.  The swap would take place mid to late
> January.  I would hast but need to wait for our winter shut down
>
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Re: [VFB] another first

[Scott Bearden]

Very nice!

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Re: [VFB] Line weights

[Scott Bearden]

N! I love their lines. Can you say where you heard
that from?

Back on topic, why not just put something the equivalent of a small luggage
tag on the reel case zipper? Custom made dog tags? I am sure Staples has
something like a mini luggage tag. I guess I have not acquired enough reels
to experience this yet. I did just sell all of my offshore made reels to
buy a couple of used Abel's. The only foreign made reel I have left is a
gift from Wayne on this list and that I won't sell. Up to that point I
guess I memorized what line was on which reel, but I admit that isn't
exactly optimal.

Scott

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Anthony Spezio wrote:

>  I hear Cortland is not making lines anymore.
>  Tony
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Re: [VFB] Hurricane Isaac

[Scott Bearden]

Even the worst day spent fishing is still better than a good day working.
It sounds like time well spent with family.

Scott

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Anthony Spezio  wrote:

> My son and two of his friends are here.and they wanted to Trout Fish.
> There was a lull in the rain and we went out. Then things seemed to go
> wrong. Got all the stuff down to the boat and got ready to go. I hit the
> started and the outboard turned over and did not start. Checked the fuel
> and every thing else, all looked good. Hit the starter button and nothing,
> not even a click.. Pulled on the pull start and it would not start. I just
> spent 250.00 having it checked out at the Marina a month ago..
> Let it sit and tried pulling it again and it finally kicked off. We
> finally got out of the dock and up to Tucker. The boys got out and waded, I
> had to fish from the boat, I just can't wade anymore.
> Two of them were using spinning rods and my son was using the bamboo Fly
> rod I made for him. On the first cast one of his friends got a 17" Brown. A
> few casts later he got a Rainbow. His other friend got a Rainbow in the
> next few minuets. I rigged up with a Chili Pepper and motered up the river
> about 100 feet. A few casts and I missed a hit. A few more casts and missed
> another one.
> I changed to a floating ant. Nothing hit it then started to drizzle.
> Changed back to the Chili Pepper because I was in faster deeper water. I
> had two more hits but no hook ups. By then the drizzle turned into a hard
> rain. My son on the fly rod caught a couple of bows and broke off one..
> Needless to say by the time I collected all the guys back in the boat I
> was totally soaked.
> I let the outboard run all the time we were on the river hoping it would
> charge the battery. When we got back to the dock and shut down, I tried the
> starter again. Nothing doing. My son and his friends removed the battery
> and took it to be checked.. The battery was totally dead. Got a new battery
> and will give it another go later.
> This is the first time in years that I have fished Tucker and not caught a
> fish. I am thinking, I need to check the hook point on that fly, I missed
> too many fish on it.
> Tony
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Re: [VFB] Suspicious messages

[Scott Bearden]

Not here either. Not even in my spam folder. Usually these things hit your
entire contacts list for victims.

Scott

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Neville Gosling wrote:

> I have received a couple of suspicious messages purporting to be from Ed
> Roden. Is any other list member receiving these messages?
>
> Neville (Nev) Gosling

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Re: [VFB] Lead

[Scott Bearden]

The tungsten putty I have is quite messy during warm months, but firms up
well if you are fishing in a spring creek or tail water with cold water
temps. If you are winter fishing and the putty in the dispenser is hard as
a rock, slip it inside your gloves for a few minutes to loosten it up. The
bonus to this stuff is if you hang up on the bottom because of the weight,
you typically just lose the putty and apply more. Put a couple of pieces of
lead shot on and once they wedge into a tight spot you have lost most of
your leader and the flies with it. Tin shot is worthless and the stuff they
sell these days as lead free wire is mostly tin. Very little weight
advantage to make it worth it. Tungsten on the other hand is fantastic IMHO.

Scott

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Re: [VFB] Carp

[Scott Bearden]

They are destructive to trout reds I will tell you that. Carp can live in
just about any kind of water, including the clean cold water needed by
trout and I have watched in horror as enormous carp clean out reds from
recently spawned trout. I just don't like non-native species. Carp are
invasive species to this entire continent. They were brought over by
Europeans in the 1800
s. I would go so far as to say that all non-native species of trout are a
pest as well. Brown trout shouldn't be on this continent either. Rainbow
trout belong on the west coast. Brook trout belong East of the Mississippi
not in Colorado or Montana. People seem to think that because it is their
favorite sport fish or food, that they can introduce it wherever they
please. We have the snakehead all over the Potomac watershed and in 20
years this river system where I live won't ever be the same all because
some enterprising individuals wanted to catch it and put it on their dinner
plate. Look at what Lake trout have done to decimate the populations of
native cutthroats in Yellowstone lake. I go fishing because I stand in awe
of what nature provides for quarry, not what I wish it had. As far as I am
concerned carp make great lawn fertilizer.

Scott

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:36 PM, The Smiths  wrote:

> **
> Simple question.  Lets see if it causes as big of an up roar here as it
> did in my local TU chapter.
> Question.How many on this site fly fish for carp?
>
> Gary S
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Re: [VFB] Dail Grahm

[Scott Bearden]

Oh no. Dail was such a wonderful guy. Please pass my condolences to his
family. Was he at this last Sowbug? I thought he was.

Scott

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