Re: [videoblogging] My Amends To Robert Scoble
Andrew man, do you really have to lay a long ass email like that on me? Give a vidbro a break, wouldya? It's still the holidays for some people. Damn, now I gotta formulate answers You make a lot of assumptions about us and my role at PodTech, Let me just lay the ground work a bit so you have a better understanding. I get a sense of an almighty you suck tone in your response. I'll try not to let that color my reply to you. Producing GETV was only one part of my job at PodTech. Other parts were shooting editing corporate content for PodTech's paying clients, shooting editing o' plenty of Scoble's show before he got editors and later producing LunchMeet. Irina similarly had other things on her plate outside of GETV. Producing GETV was never to be our full-time job, nor was it to be a daily show in my mind. Please keep this in perspective as you read on. On Dec 26, 2007 5:51 PM, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a side track I guess on what may be a rhetorical question but a question nonetheless: On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Eddie Codel wrote: How many people do you think it takes to put out a daily Rocketboom episode? In context of your show on Podtech, along with the very nice budget that you had, as well as all of the business worries on someone else's watch, I would suggest just two, as you had. I think three is a great production number for a team but your budget would of been able to support more talent, it was up to you to determine the creative side I think. Over time, the success of the show is pretty much in your hands. Its all about the content and what you can do with your time. Of course there are a huge mound of barriers and bureaucracies and things that are truly not fair that get in the way, but I still think, at the end of the day, its what you can produce, content-wise that must build its own support. It seems like this must be the perspective or mind-set that you would need to be the most effective under the situation of deciding to go with a network like Podtech. Chalk it up to false expectations then, I'll take the hit for that. Andrew, I applaud your ability to pull off making a great daily show with such little resources. Our show was something that Irina and I pulled out of collective asses, not something with a grand vision or plan from the beginning. I never saw it as a daily show and we didn't have the time to make it a daily show even we wanted that. Again, our time was split at PodTech. Correct me if Im wrong, but I always saw Podtech as a record label that supports artists, not entrepreneurs or business people. It was meant for the people who dont want to deal with all the business, they just want to do one thing: make great content. If they just can do that one thing well, they are entrusting the record label to do the rest. Its more intertwined than that really, but thats the gist of what I mean to say. The record label of course expects or at least hopes that the artist will make some kind of work that allot of people will want to see. Interesting comparison and maybe apt if we actually did get support. Record labels also help their artists grow. They know what it takes to produce work that a lot of people will want to hear. PodTech was not that record label. With Rocketboom in particular, we do not have the support of a network. So its different, we do all of the business and try to grow everything ourselves. Along with some help from Josh Kinberg and Kenyatta Cheese, I pretty much did the whole thing daily myself for the first 6 months with Amanda Congdon pitching in a couple of hours per show. Eventually we we were both doing it full time. While I had some editing support here and there, after one year, I hired a full time editor. So after one year, we went from two to three. The growth of the audience and the demand for time to grow the business supported the growth of additional people. So let me ask, how did you and Amanda pay your rent that first year? How did you feed yourselves? If you didn't have the support of a network, how did you manage to pay the bills while doing this full time? From an artistic perspective, it's very draining to research, write, direct, edit and publish every day by yourself (keep this point in mind, I'm about to drive it home). Then, we hired Ellie to help assist me with all of the business stuff (she is still with us and has way grown out of that role). After Amanda left, I eventually hired support to help get the whole business together, tight, up to date and clear. Now we are growing as we manage other projects as well. We were and still are in a start-up mentality which is a different kind of place to be for us, compared to an artists who just needs a place to do their art. The thing I figured out over time - and this is the main point I wanted to share - is that it only takes one or two but you have to factor in endurance. Its not a
Re: [videoblogging] New monthly video event in SF this Friday 12/14
cant wait till the next one! the firstone i was sick the second one igot snowed in in nyc missedout! On Dec 13, 2007 12:34 AM, Eddie Codel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello vlogerati, I'm organizing a new monthly video salon series in San Francisco called Video Salon Redux that takes place this Friday the 14th. Yeah I know, sorry for the short notice. Details here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/334862/ The idea behind this is to create a space where video artists, bloggers, editors, animators, machinamists, serialists and anyone else can present their projects. This is partly modeled afer Dorkbot, a similar open event focused on hardware hacking and doing strange things with electricity. The format is simple: 3 curated 15 minute presentations on a particular theme. Following a break there will be an open period where anyone can come and show a video or a work in progress in 5 minutes. The hope is presenters and attendees will be inspired by each other to create and maybe collaborate. This months theme is documenting your passion and many of you already know our presenters: :: Doctor Popular http://www.doctorpopular.com/ :: Oscar Grimm, Tanja Andrews Barb Finnin of Freshtopia.net http://www.freshtopia.net :: Jay Dedman Ryanne Hodson http://ryanishungry.com So if you're in San Francisco this Friday, please come out. If not, we'll be doing it again in January. If you're interested in presenting at future Video Salon, drop me a line. 6:30 :: doors, shmooze, drink (cash bar) 7:30 :: presentations 8:30 :: open video: 5 minutes to show us your thing Dimension 7 Studios 150 Folsom Street San Francisco see you there! -eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble
This is a tough thread to jump in on! hahaha :D I think Gena brings up some valid and *interesting* points. I'm not involved in any of this, but I'll put in my two cents anyway. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert I want to specifically address an issue you have brought up and I don't think you were being heard. You took a lot of heat concerning the Podtech - Censorship of Loren debacle. Words were said and mud was flung in all directions. Upon reflection, I don't think folks separated you from the company or in fact the actual person that generated the situation in the first place. I think we as humans start to classify folks as personalities and not as real people. Again, not that this is relevant to the actual discussion, but my entire experience of PodTech has been through this list. I had never heard of it other than being mentioned in relation to Irina Eddie, Jay Ryanne, then eventually Jay Smooth, Bill Streeter and Loren Feldman. Also, at some point, the Lan Bui photo scandal. I have to agree with what Gena's saying. From my perspective of reading limited mention of PodTech, I never felt that they had a grass roots or ground level presence. What I mean by that is that PodTech appeared to be some mother ship type of thing that had something to do with funding podcasts and the, let's say main characters in The PodTech Show appeared/appear larger than life. Case in point would be Scoble or The Scoble, who isn't referred to as Robert or Bob, but either as solely his last name or Scobleizer, which is obviously a Terminator-esque, movie-starish nickname. [Disclosure: (hahaha oh brother) The first time I heard of The Scobleizer was when he was interviewed by my friend Dan McVicar on his McVlog http://blip.tv/file/71178 however, all I took away from that was that this was some guy that liked to say Power Move!. Having not heard of Ze Frank at that time, I had no idea what he was talking about.] Then, if you listen to his media (such as http://www.podtech.net/home/3745/calacaniscast-31-beta), he's talking about maxing out contact limits on social sites Literally, having FOUR THOUSAND followers on Facebook, for instance. Obviously, that's not normal. :D Unfortunately, that's not only going to generate fans, but also haters and people that are apathetic about mud-slinging towards 'stars'. Maybe it's not actually apathy, but more a feeling of Well, this guy's immensely popular inside this echo chamber, he should be used to this and able to fend for himself perfectly well. Especially when you add the backing of the mother ship, financially and as far as prestige is concerned... My personal feeling about the situationS that came up with PodTech (besides it being none of my business in the first place) was They're playboys... they're used to taking heat... they can handle it. Looking at it from the perspective that Gena's presented, I agree that my perception of Scobleizer is of personality and not real person. MissBHavens has a fancy name, too... However, due to her style of interacting with this group, style of video blogging and lack of connection to a funded mother ship, mud-slinging against her is going to be perceived completely differently, being that she's a real person. This is an interesting study in how personal bias can become ingrained and seem perfectly normal until someone checks you on it. That was one of my points about Cheryl's thread that started all this. I feel like the previous lack of sponsorship of Epic-FU caused her to feel one way about the show and that adding sponsorship went against her own personal 'understanding' of what was going on. Without the prior ingrained bias, there would have been no perception of change. I met a very nice person (this would be you) a few years back. We talked as regular folks. To be honest I tend to do that with everyone I met. But others treat you as The Scoble with reverence. The other side of that seems to be intense anger when there is a disagreement. It is not right but there ya go, it is human. Part of it is the celebrity thing. The other side of it is somedays we just do not act according to our better natures. I didn't speak up and say Hey, he didn't cause this situation why are you going after him? I didn't do that either, for the reasons stated above. However, I think Gena's right again. In cases where it can be proven that someone was NOT directly responsible for something happening or doesn't have the direct ability to do something about it now, they should be stood up for when people accuse them unfairly, personality or not. -- Bill Cammack CammackMediaGroup.com I have been to other events where folks wouldn't part their lips toward me because I'm not an A - Lister. This is a good thing as it cuts down on the amount of BS I have to produce. I'm aiming for zero emissions. When I look at the comments section of your blog those folks
Re: [videoblogging] Re: iTunes feed is empty
Hi everyone: On 12/26/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I manually add your feedburner feed to my itunes, I dont get any episodes. It could be me doing something wrong and Im not looking at your feed right, but to me it looks like your feed doesnt have any elclosures that point to the actuall video files themselves? Im not a feedburner user so someone else will have to advise on how to fix that Im afraid. Just be sure to spell the URL correctly and you should be fine. I know 'cause I am a FeedBurner user. BTW Mike, I'm not able to download any episodes via iTunes either but I was able to download Ryanne's latest video from her FeedBurner feed @ http://feeds.feedburner.com/RyannesVideoBlog (I put that directly into iTunes and it downloaded without a problem). And to top it off, that's with the PC version of iTunes too. Anyhow...Just figured you'd wanna know. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll think I'll post this, jump in the shower and watch Ryanne's latest video (Looks like it's a chilly one too!) Cheers -- Pat Cook Denver, Colorado PODCASTS - AS MY WORLD TURNS - Blogger Page - http://asmyworldturnstv.blogspot.com/ BlogTV Page - http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/20453 AS MY WEIGHT LOSS WORLD TURNS (NEW VIDEO PODCAST!!)- http://asmyweightlossworldturns.blogspot.com PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/ PAT'S HEALTH MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST - http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/ YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/ THE PAT COOK SHOW - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow THE PAT COOK SHOW (Video Podcast) - Blogger Page - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/ - BlogTV Page - http://www.blogtv.com/Shows/19924
[videoblogging] Best Encoding settings
Hi Everyone, I have been creating video for several years but I can't seem to get my video encoding settings down in a way I'm happy with. I shoot in HDV and my finished video is 640 x 360. For most of my simple editing I use iMovie. Exporting to iPod format from iMovie looks mediocre at best. I tried exporting at fully quality then ran it through Techspansion's Visual Hub. Doing two pass encoding and deinterlacing worked very well. I am very happy with that output. Unfortunately now it won't stream, you have to wait for the whole video to download and even adding the hint for streaming option doesn't seem to work. So, my question is, on a Mac what is the best way to get your full quality .mov file to a .mp4 or .m4v file? Thanks all for your input. -Scott -- --- American Cliche http://www.americancliche.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings
The first place I would go to is www.freevlog.org they have a bunch of tutortials on encoding for the mac Heath http://batmangeek.com I use a PC sonot much help from me on Macs --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Parent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I have been creating video for several years but I can't seem to get my video encoding settings down in a way I'm happy with. I shoot in HDV and my finished video is 640 x 360. For most of my simple editing I use iMovie. Exporting to iPod format from iMovie looks mediocre at best. I tried exporting at fully quality then ran it through Techspansion's Visual Hub. Doing two pass encoding and deinterlacing worked very well. I am very happy with that output. Unfortunately now it won't stream, you have to wait for the whole video to download and even adding the hint for streaming option doesn't seem to work. So, my question is, on a Mac what is the best way to get your full quality .mov file to a .mp4 or .m4v file? Thanks all for your input. -Scott -- --- American Cliche http://www.americancliche.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings
If you are otherwise happy with the visualhub output, you could just run the file through this program (or use quicktime pro 'save as') and then hopefully it will be faststart with no affect on quality: http://www.qtbridge.com/lillipot/lillipot.html Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Parent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I have been creating video for several years but I can't seem to get my video encoding settings down in a way I'm happy with. I shoot in HDV and my finished video is 640 x 360. For most of my simple editing I use iMovie. Exporting to iPod format from iMovie looks mediocre at best. I tried exporting at fully quality then ran it through Techspansion's Visual Hub. Doing two pass encoding and deinterlacing worked very well. I am very happy with that output. Unfortunately now it won't stream, you have to wait for the whole video to download and even adding the hint for streaming option doesn't seem to work. So, my question is, on a Mac what is the best way to get your full quality .mov file to a .mp4 or .m4v file? Thanks all for your input. -Scott -- --- American Cliche http://www.americancliche.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings
I prefer MPEG streamclip to all other encoders I have tried. It has presets for exactly what you need to do. (I compress HDV the same way as you). It's free software and extremely fast. Just be sure you're deinterlacing properly if you have an interlaced source. Lots of people make mistakes in that area. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Scott Parent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I have been creating video for several years but I can't seem to get my video encoding settings down in a way I'm happy with. I shoot in HDV and my finished video is 640 x 360. For most of my simple editing I use iMovie.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings
Mpeg Streamclip is fantastic. If you have the technical know how and need more tweakability, ffmpegx (OSX graphical front end to the ffmpeg tools) is also well worth having. ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab
[videoblogging] What I like about you
Um...Nothing like the holidays to bring out some good emotional turmoil on and offline (don't ask!). With all the angst here are some things I like about this group: You helped me get started with videoblogging. That changed my life, led me to several interesting jobs, helped me connect with some wonderful people. When I am at my day job frustrated with my cubicle-bound existence, I can check into the list and go somewhere else at least in my mind. It's a touchstone for me, even though I'm not as active on the group as I have been in the past, it's part of who I am; involvement in this group has been important in my life, and I would miss it if it were not here. The group may at some point wither away, replaced by other forums. If that happens, then c'est la vie. It'll be a historical reference point, like the Beats, or Paris in the 20's or whatever. Movements come and go. But it seems like there is still some juice left here, and I still enjoy the flavor. Where else are Heath, Gena, Scoble, Gerry T., Cheryl, and Richard Bluestein and everyone else going to connect and collide in this way? It's a crazy mix of motivations that brings us together in this imaginary space, but I still find this group interesting, thought provoking, and useful. And I enjoy the fact that new people keep popping up and wading into the thick of things. So to all the people behind the posts, thanks for making this group happen and for keeping it going.
Re: [videoblogging] iTunes feed is empty
A couple years ago, I started sending my rss to iTunes. I just received an iPod for Christmas and noticed my stream is empty. Looks like it stopped sometime in the summer. How do I fix the link and info on iTunes? I can't even find where I can access my channel on itunes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Mike http://vlog.mikemoon.net Ryanne and I had the same issue which we just fixed. Frank from mefeedia helped us out. (much help happens offlist so others arent bothered) It seems that some copy-paste code from blip had clogged up vPIP. Ryanne can explain furtherbut below is Frank's email explaining the issue. Im not quite sure why one bad apple would blow a feed up. This wasnt even a video of ours. we just reblogged a Freshtopia video. so it would be nice if you could tell vPIP just to pull media from certain categories instead of all media on your blog like it does now. Jay _ I saw your posts on the VBG regarding issues with your feed, so i decided to take a look. I tried to crawl your feed at: http://www.mefeedia.com/feeds/7711/ and got an error: XML error: no element found at line 106, column 7 - which is the end of the RSS file. So, comparing your vlog to mefeedia's page for RyanIsHungry, i something weird - there is a post that we found titled Freshtopia Dinner Party: We Brought The Garden Greens!, which won't play because the mediaURL says it is at: http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?enablejs=true#038;feedurl=http://freshtopia.blip.tv/rss#038;file=http://blip.tv/rss/flash/542027#038;showplayerpath=http://blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf and the post URL is: http://ryanishungry.com/2007/12/13/freshtopia-dinner-party-we-brought-the-garden-greens/ but i don't see all of the download options AND I don't see this post on your vlog when i go through the Next / Previous options. So, it must be this post that is causing issues. Perhaps this is something to do with the cross-posting from Blip into Feedburner? Not sure - all i know is that it looks like the problem is with this post...
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Best Encoding settings
Mpeg Streamclip is fantastic. If you have the technical know how and need more tweakability, ffmpegx (OSX graphical front end to the ffmpeg tools) is also well worth having. I started a page on our group wiki on compression tools. listed things Ive used. feel free to add/edit. jay -- http://jaydedman.com 917 371 6790 Professional: http://ryanishungry.com Personal: http://momentshowing.net Photos: http://flickr.com/photos/jaydedman/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/jaydedman RSS: http://tinyurl.com/yqgdt9
[videoblogging] Re: What I like about you
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You helped me get started with videoblogging. That changed my life, led me to several interesting jobs, helped me connect with some wonderful people. All of whom are now dead. Coincidence? One wonders... ;)
[videoblogging] Re: What I like about you
you know jonny, you are all right ;) discussion is healthy, it can lead to change and it can make people think and grow, but we have to allow that to happen, we have to be receptive to the things around us.I learn something new everytime I come to this placeand where else does that happen? I will say this though, Newton's thrid law is displayed here on a regular basis, we should keep that in mind... ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jonny goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um...Nothing like the holidays to bring out some good emotional turmoil on and offline (don't ask!). With all the angst here are some things I like about this group: You helped me get started with videoblogging. That changed my life, led me to several interesting jobs, helped me connect with some wonderful people. When I am at my day job frustrated with my cubicle-bound existence, I can check into the list and go somewhere else at least in my mind. It's a touchstone for me, even though I'm not as active on the group as I have been in the past, it's part of who I am; involvement in this group has been important in my life, and I would miss it if it were not here. The group may at some point wither away, replaced by other forums. If that happens, then c'est la vie. It'll be a historical reference point, like the Beats, or Paris in the 20's or whatever. Movements come and go. But it seems like there is still some juice left here, and I still enjoy the flavor. Where else are Heath, Gena, Scoble, Gerry T., Cheryl, and Richard Bluestein and everyone else going to connect and collide in this way? It's a crazy mix of motivations that brings us together in this imaginary space, but I still find this group interesting, thought provoking, and useful. And I enjoy the fact that new people keep popping up and wading into the thick of things. So to all the people behind the posts, thanks for making this group happen and for keeping it going.
[videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble
I normally just lurk here, but this one really got me. One thing I wanted to say over there is that PodTech invested more than a million dollars in this community (seriously, I have the receipts, we hired dozens of videobloggers and even had a few on our staff, including people who are very active on this group). I've personally got tons of people here paid, some of which got paid more than $100,000 each since PodTech was born. PodTech was a BUSINESS, not a charity. Whatever money was paid to anyone on this list was a BUSINESS decision. PodTech saw value in the work and thought they could profit from it. Apparently they were mistaken---but don't classify that as some sort of charity. They saw an opportunity to profit, but they failed. PERIOD. Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. I think this is BS too. How many of you have stood up and said thank you to YouTube, Blip.tv, Kyte, or any of the other companies who are trying to make it possible for you to distribute your work (and get paid - I know at least one videoblogger who gets paid more than $10,000 per month thanks to YouTube's advertising deals)? Some of you have, and that's always appreciated. But most of you remain silent, or don't look to help out and make sure there are healthy businesses here. I'm sorry, some of these companies are better than others and are more attentive to people on this list, but once again these are BUSINESSES. Don't forget that we are creating things that are of value to them. Yes, they provide the technology to enable us host for free, but without content that means nothing. The cost of bandwith is rapidly plummeting to the point that this will not even be an issue for too much longer. Although it hasn't happened on a major scale yet, the TOS that we all sign gives these companies the power to syndicate our content all over the place and profit from that in ways that we might not even anticipate yet. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena, Thanks, this was a very nice Christmas present and a nice way to end a really great day. Someone just forwarded me your email and I appreciate that too. I haven't been able to respond over on the Cheryl page because it keeps saying my comments are spam, which is funny too. Oh well. One thing I wanted to say over there is that PodTech invested more than a million dollars in this community (seriously, I have the receipts, we hired dozens of videobloggers and even had a few on our staff, including people who are very active on this group). I've personally got tons of people here paid, some of which got paid more than $100,000 each since PodTech was born. Part of my frustration is that the community, rather than cheering on businesses that are trying to put food on videoblogger's tables, actually turn and attack and not in a helpful way and when someone is under attack I don't see many in this community come and stand up against the mob. I just looked back on the last few days of posts here and I see pretty predictable results from my outburst. But you didn't get the point. How many of you stood up when TechCrunch said that PodTech deserved to be in the dead pool? How many of you stood up when that same blog, or when Valleywag printed attacks against me? Not many. Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. That's why Cheryl's post about Epic-FU rubbed me the wrong way. I can bite my lip when it's me under attack (although, no, it's not fun) but when I see a repeated pattern I felt I needed to speak out about it and this community has often not been friendly to those of us who are trying to make businesses that get more of us paid. Let's turn it away from PodTech. Have any of you thanked Revision3? Rocketboom? Huffington Post? Federated Media? Jason Calacanis? (He was attacked here, but my friends who worked for him say his paychecks never bounced). Leo Laporte? Epic-FU? Or any of the other people struggling to make money in this new art form? And there are dozens of others who are trying to build businesses here in the NewTeeVee industry. How many of you have stood up and said thank you to YouTube, Blip.tv, Kyte, or any of the other companies who are trying to make it possible for you to distribute your work (and get paid - I know at least one videoblogger who gets paid more than $10,000 per month thanks to YouTube's advertising deals)? Some of you have, and that's always appreciated. But most of you remain silent,
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
Um...I'm not sure why I got this email, but I did, so I thought I would pass it along but it was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course this may be old news Hello, My name is Laura Phillips from the University. I am an Administrative Director for the school and I represent Christine in this discussion. I apologize that this is a long post, but I am going to be addressing the entire conversation so far on this subject and explaining what it is John is really up against and also that we intend NO harm toward John and have always just wanted to find a peaceful solution with him. First of all, Jenny was not authorized to make any agreements of any sort, and it says that the only person who is authorized to make contractual agreements are the board of directors. Jenny is just a young girl who didn't realize the seriousness of the situation or the implications that copyright infringement can bring. Just because Jenny was unknowledgeable about how to handle the situation and did not alert managing staff to the misuse of the video that UMS owns, this does not grant permission and will not be upheld in a court of law. Managing staff did not know about the video until only a few days ago. Only the owners of such copyrighted material are allowed to grant permissions. The permission was not granted by an authorized person, so no contract can be honored in court. Jenny, fresh out of high school, is not authorized to make contracts on behalf of the company. As for the Fair Use Act, John Holden is seriously out of sync with what the Fair Use Act entails. Yes, material is allowed in 3 second clips to be used in parody or commentary. However, entire videos from beginning to end are clearly not allowed, as proven by previous court cases that have been presented to us. The video is not part of a series, and the videos have never been put into one work as if it is all one video in a DVD or any other media. They are only numbered for organizational purposes on youtube so as to keep track of them, which is a practice many people do. At no place in the video is it said that is it part of a series. No videos continue any topic, each topic is discussed only in one video, and each discussion stands alone. There are no continuations. So it is clear to say that the entire video was used by John Holden, exactly all 04:57 minutes of it, (5 minutes) and nothing less. This far exceeds what the fair use act was intended for. There are four factors in determining what fair use is. Number 3 and 4 are what come into play and where John Holden is seriously mistaken. This is where a jury and judge would find fault with his ideas that he has partaken in fair use. Just because a lawyer will take it pro bono so he can have fun challenging it does not put John in a safe place. It is no hair off the lawyer's back if John loses, and if John were to lose, he could be left with large fines and our lawyer's fees to pay. The pro bono lawyer walks away with not a scratch while John Holden is left holding the bag. So don't get too comfortable with the fact that a free lawyer will help out. You get what you pay for. Free is not a good price when you have so much to lose. Is a parody worth thousands of dollars in a lost lawsuit? Factor 3 in the fair use act tells the jury that they must weigh how much of the copyrighted material is used and using the whole thing in its entirety is a clear violation of the fair use act, since only short clips are allowed. Why do you think Saturday Night Live only uses 3 second clips? It is because that is what is safe to get away with. Factor number 4 is that the jury must determine harm to the business that the infringement does. Since students of the school have complained about the comments left on John's video and have complained about the video itself, which were indeed harmful to the business, we do believe that a jury would find that the video is in violation on factor 4 as well. John is safe with factors 1 and 2, but as for 3 and 4, he is not. If even one of these factors has been violated, it is found to be a complete violation. There is no in between. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A lawyer who is an expert in copyright law and online free speech has offered to represent me pro bono! And it all happened because I started talking about on this list and Irina forwarded it to Jason Schultz at LawGeek who is now representing me. I can't thank everybody enough. File this one as an instance of the community standing up for somebody. that's awesome. I would love to set some precedent for quoting video. as I said before, it's an accepted practice to quote text from someone's blog and make comment on it. this is called conversation/critique. When a videoblogger quotes video from someone's blog and makes comment on it, there's a big chance it's called infringement. I
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
Oh, man... and if you think this is bad, you should see the email he got from the cartoon butterfly's lawyers. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, My name is Laura Phillips from the University. I am an Administrative Director for the school and I represent Christine in this discussion.
[videoblogging] Making a living with videoblogging
Been join this group awhile and really enjoy various interesting topics. I am currently consider doing videoblogging full-time but not sure if this can make enough for a living. What would be the best way to make a decent living as videoblogging? Get couple of major sponsors? doing freelance videographer on the side?... Any suggestions would really appreciated...(so I can make up my mind.) Sam _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Making a living with videoblogging
My first piece of advice would be to not have high expectations. There are a number of people on here making good scratch from their videoblogs, but I'm not sure how many of them actually expected they'd be able to make a living of it. It seems to be something you kinda have to fall ass-backward into unless you've got a serious business plan already. That also means there's not a huge probability that you'll make big full-time dough just from a videoblog. That said, I'm not really the guy to be giving advice on this topic, since I myself haven't found a huge amount of success, either financially or in audience numbers, from running videoblogs. If you can get sponsorship or investors, that's really a place to start. They may want creative control and you may feel like you're shilling for them, but they'll also be there to help promote the videoblog, and as far as I can tell, the greatest capital in this game is promotion. Investors will also help see you through those early and lean times. You'll probably need a business plan, though, so you should think in a very serious and detailed way on how you're going to be an asset to your sponsors or investors. Using a videoblog to help advertise your capabilities as a videographer and a web developer, however, may land you in some interesting jobs, especially if you have access to some really good equipment and you make good material. Even running around with my less-than-pro camera and slinging around my little videos, I've had some pretty nice side job offers, ranging from helping a barbershop quartet do a TV head stunt like the Blue Man Group...to training videos for a political party...to music videos for medium-level bands. When people get a feel for what you can do and feel that they can like and trust you, you can pick up work. Everyone needs videos made, and often they're just waiting for someone who's figured out a workflow to show up and do it. In all honesty, I've ended up turning down a lot of paying gigs because they wouldn't fit my busy schedule of work and doctoral thesis. Anyway, I admire your courage to give it a go. Think higher than you know is realistic and stick with it, and I'm sure something will emerge out there. Just don't forget to have Plan B on hand. :) -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime Sam Meager wrote: Been join this group awhile and really enjoy various interesting topics. I am currently consider doing videoblogging full-time but not sure if this can make enough for a living. What would be the best way to make a decent living as videoblogging? Get couple of major sponsors? doing freelance videographer on the side?... Any suggestions would really appreciated...(so I can make up my mind.) Sam _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
The high school student who is running the page clearly has more sense than they and the lawyers (and why don't they run their own YouTube page). No, fair use isn't limited to three second clips. And Jason surely knows more than whatever lawyers they have sending threatening letters. He was a staff attorney at EFF, taught at intellectual property and cyberlaw at UC Berkeley, and is now Associate Director of the Samuelson Law, Technology, Public Policy Clinic there. They also don't seem to realize that if they do take legal action far more people will watch the video than if they had just realized no harm was done by a parody being up since July seen by under 3000 people. -- Steve Rhodes http://flickr.com/photos/ari/ photos http://ari.typepad.com http://tigerbeat.vox.com blogs http://del.icio.us/tigerbeat interesting articles sites http://twitter.com/tigerbeat [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] my greetings card 2008
Hi friends, i just posted my greetings 2008 on my vlog http://xi-vlog.loiez.org/2007/12/_skype_me_-_greetings_card_for_2008.php Ok, it's just in french but created with all my mood messages on Skype 2007 I made a screenshot all day to do this work Happy new year for all love,peace and vlogging ( Thx to Mike and Blip,s team for help these last times) Loiez D. http://www.loiez.org skype:ultimcodex [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
While fair use laws favor using less... In a parody, the parodist is borrowing in order to comment upon the original work. A parodist is permitted to borrow quite a bit, even the heart of the original work, in order to conjure up the original work. That's because, as the Supreme Court has acknowledged, the heart is also what most readily conjures up the [original] for parody, and it is the heart at which parody takes aim. (Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music , 510 U.S. 569 (1994).) There's no 3-second rule in copyright, I think that's only when you drop something on the floor. People have been sued for less and cleared for more. There is no magical number. Seems to me that this is all about John's video popping up under related videos when people watch her videos. They just can't stand it. Copyright is the side issue. So let's admit what the real problem is, discuss our feelings, and figure out how we can heal one another? Sorry, I watched a few of her videos. Just as it isn't in anyone's best interest to go to court, I think the same can be said for messing with people who have the capability of posting much weirder (debatable) and copyright compliant video responses to the University's YouTube videos. We could make a month of it.
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
fyi, this person has joined this group today more conversation here ... http://lanbui.com/2007/12/24/how-to-keep-a-high-star-rating-on-youtube/ On Dec 27, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Heath wrote: Um...I'm not sure why I got this email, but I did, so I thought I would pass it along but it was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course this may be old news Hello, My name is Laura Phillips from the University. I am an Administrative Director for the school and I represent Christine in this discussion. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] holiday greetings to you all...
happy holidays, down here at the end of the world, i found a brother from a different mother. hell, we could barely speak the same language - he's french! nonetheless, for the past 8 days i've thought long and hard about the steps in between every life. i wish you all best wishes and should see that the banality of life's woes are cured with honesty. i present you with no other gift than two guys who can barely speak to each other hanging out with a bunch of argentinians who can barely speak to us... http://luckofseven.blip.tv/file/564635 ps - i 3 blip! noel -- join me on a trip around the world! http://ontheluckofseven.com noel hidalgo [ skype ] nonecknoel [ twitter ] http://twitter.com/noneck [ email/jabber/aim ] noel[a]noneck.org http://www.dopplr.com/traveller/noneck http://www.couchsurfing.com/people/nonecknoel
RE: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble
Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. I think this is BS too. If you think that's BS, you've never made your living solely from advertising. Advertisers do turn away when they perceive they are associating their brand with something negative or failing. If the advertisers turn away, the employees stop getting paid, lose their jobs, etc. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
[videoblogging] Re: my greetings card 2008
Ah, Loiez you gonna have me spend more time with AltaVista Bablefish. My French teacher told me I'd regret goofing off in class. A joyful new year my friend! Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi friends, i just posted my greetings 2008 on my vlog http://xi-vlog.loiez.org/2007/12/_skype_me_-_greetings_card_for_2008.php Ok, it's just in french but created with all my mood messages on Skype 2007 I made a screenshot all day to do this work Happy new year for all love,peace and vlogging ( Thx to Mike and Blip,s team for help these last times) Loiez D. http://www.loiez.org skype:ultimcodex [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi, this person has joined this group today more conversation here ... http://lanbui.com/2007/12/24/how-to-keep-a-high-star-rating-on-youtube Oh man... just when I give up hope that this conflict could escalate in hilarity, I am delighted to be proven wrong. Chris
[videoblogging] Starting a blog - what do I do about feeds?
Starting a blog - what do I do about feeds? I am starting a blog and notice that there are quite a few feed places like Yahoo, Odeo, feedburner etc. Is there a way to automatically update each time a new blog or video is put up? I remember someone saying that you have to re-write the XML each time there is an update. Is that true? Is there an automated way of doing it? I wonder if there is another way to make the xml feed that automatically scans the page for new content and updates - or is it something that I have to physically do by hand each time there is a new entry, be it written or video? I know these are a lot of newbie questions, so I hope you don't mind. Thanks
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
Wow, that Laura lady if Nuckin Futs.wow...she make christians seem tolerant and understanding, and I would know Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fyi, this person has joined this group today more conversation here ... http://lanbui.com/2007/12/24/how-to-keep-a-high-star-rating-on- youtube/ On Dec 27, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Heath wrote: Um...I'm not sure why I got this email, but I did, so I thought I would pass it along but it was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course this may be old news Hello, My name is Laura Phillips from the University. I am an Administrative Director for the school and I represent Christine in this discussion. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
I know!!! Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Markus Sandy markus.sandy@ wrote: fyi, this person has joined this group today more conversation here ... http://lanbui.com/2007/12/24/how-to-keep-a-high-star-rating-on- youtube Oh man... just when I give up hope that this conflict could escalate in hilarity, I am delighted to be proven wrong. Chris
RE: [videoblogging] Making a living with videoblogging
Been join this group awhile and really enjoy various interesting topics. I am currently consider doing videoblogging full-time but not sure if this can make enough for a living. What would be the best way to make a decent living as videoblogging? Get couple of major sponsors? doing freelance videographer on the side?... Any suggestions would really appreciated...(so I can make up my mind.) This is greatly over simplified but here goes: **Grow Your Own Organically** Do whatever you're currently doing for income and work on building up a catalog of consistent, high quality video blog posts. Without great content you'll have an incredibly hard time getting anyone to associate their brand with you. Build an audience and build a relationship with that audience. After you've got a track record, put together a portfolio and start approaching companies you think would be compatible with your audience about sponsorship. **Videoblogger for Hire** If you're willing to do video for someone else, you might have a slightly faster path (with many variables that could get in your way). A huge number of currently popular online text publications want to get into video. The people writing articles often have too much to do or don't really want to do video and everything else on their plate. If you produce high quality video, you can pitch doing a video blog for a popular site in your topic niche. This potentially has the benefit of leaving someone else in charge of finding the sponsors leaving you more time to focus on making video - it also gives you a built-in audience for the videos. **Alternative Revenue Streams** You don't necessarily need a sponsor embedded directly in your videos, there are other paths to generating advertising revenue from the pages on your site, like contextual and display advertising. The tricky part about that is getting people to your site to see your videos (as well as the ads). There's an excellent chance that all the various places you post your videos (YouTube, Metacafe, Revver, Blip, etc, etc) will get more video views than your actual site, which means no one is seeing the ads. This is by no means an all inclusive way to get paid for video blogging, but my suggestions are based on personal experience making a living blogging for the past 6 years. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com
[videoblogging] Re: Starting a blog - what do I do about feeds?
I am starting a blog and notice that there are quite a few feed places like Yahoo, Odeo, feedburner etc. Is there a way to automatically update each time a new blog or video is put up? I remember someone saying that you have to re-write the XML each time there is an update. Is that true? Is there an automated way of doing it? I wonder if there is another way to make the xml feed that automatically scans the page for new content and updates - or is it something that I have to physically do by hand each time there is a new entry, be it written or video? I know these are a lot of newbie questions, so I hope you don't mind. The RSS feed is rewritten each time there is a new post but will be done automatically by the blogging system (WordPress, Moveable Type, Blogger, etc.) used. Services like Yahoo, Odeo, and Feedburner check your blog regularly to see if the feed is updated (or you can have your blog ping them). As someone pointed out earlier, it's a good idea to run your feed through Feedburner and use the Feedburner feed for syndication. See http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/message/67230 (http://tinyurl.com/3x9cra) Kenya
[videoblogging] Re: Copyright and fair use... it ain't over yet.
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um...I'm not sure why I got this email, but I did, so I thought I would pass it along but it was sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course this may be old news Hello, My name is Laura Phillips from the University. I am an Administrative Director for the school and I represent Christine in this discussion. On reading this message, it seems that the intent is to bully John into removing his video and influence him not to seek legal representation. Why on earth would someone with legal representation not allow counsel to speak for him/her? Why would this person also contact members of the videoblogging YahooGroup offlist? Or argue about something completely irrelevant on Lan Bui's blog? It simply does not make sense. Here's an unrelated but interesting story of a religious group that used DMCA take down notices to remove videos critical of them from YouTube. http://www.citmedialaw.org/creationist-atheist-brouhaha-over-dmca-takedown-notices (http://tinyurl.com/ywc4cx) Kenya
Re: [videoblogging] Starting a blog - what do I do about feeds?
here is a tutorial on how to get a feedburner feed for your blog (if you're using blogger, though it's pretty much the same process for all blogs): http://www.freevlog.org/index.php/2007/03/19/8-get-an-rss-feed/ cheers -ryanne On Dec 27, 2007 7:57 PM, onedaydelaney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting a blog - what do I do about feeds? I am starting a blog and notice that there are quite a few feed places like Yahoo, Odeo, feedburner etc. Is there a way to automatically update each time a new blog or video is put up? I remember someone saying that you have to re-write the XML each time there is an update. Is that true? Is there an automated way of doing it? I wonder if there is another way to make the xml feed that automatically scans the page for new content and updates - or is it something that I have to physically do by hand each time there is a new entry, be it written or video? I know these are a lot of newbie questions, so I hope you don't mind. Thanks -- Me http://RyanEdit.com Twitter--http://twitter.com/Ryanne Documenting Green http://RyanIsHungry.com Educate http://FreeVlog.org iChat/AIM VideoRodeo [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] holiday greetings to you all...
happy holidays, down here at the end of the world, i found a brother from a different mother. hell, we could barely speak the same language - he's french! nonetheless, for the past 8 days i've thought long and hard about the steps in between every life. i wish you all best wishes and should see that the banality of life's woes are cured with honesty. i present you with no other gift than two guys who can barely speak to each other hanging out with a bunch of argentinians who can barely speak to us... http://luckofseven.blip.tv/file/564635http://luckofseven.blip.tv/file/564635 ps - i 3 blip! noel Noel, Noel...That's radical. So have you guys seen The Thing yet? I'd bet it'd be real cool to watch The thing while up in Antarctica. If you want, hit me up off-list about it. You *need* to share that movie with your new friends up there. Harold [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] I'm back, and I'm excited!
Hi Vloggers, Some of you may remember me, and many of you probably have no clue who I am. My name is Tim, and I used to set up shop at a place called Reality Sandwich on Typepad (and I even posted on wearethemedia.com now and then). One day I decided I didn't want to vlog anymore, and I walked away. Sometimes I regret that decision, and sometimes I know it was necessary. Either way, I have been out of the vlogging loop for a little over a year. What's done is done. Fortunately, I am happy to say that I have gotten the itch back (mostly because I just discovered Twitter, and found many of my old vlogging friends there). After being gone for so long the idea of jumping back in is more than intimidating, but I'm doing it anyway! I've moved my site over to Wordpress now, and I hope it becomes as much of a home as my previous site was. For the time being I am posting some of my old videos to get reacquainted with the process. My feed is up and working, so please stop by and say hello. You can find me at realitysandwich.wordpress.com. Looking forward to the dialogue. Happy Almost New Year, Tim Vlog: realitysandwich.wordpress.com Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/wordpress/YXkG
Re: [videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble
Why advertising is a dangerous way to go if you're interested in true things. One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. Jan On Dec 27, 2007 10:37 PM, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. I think this is BS too. If you think that's BS, you've never made your living solely from advertising. Advertisers do turn away when they perceive they are associating their brand with something negative or failing. If the advertisers turn away, the employees stop getting paid, lose their jobs, etc. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist - RSS http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: My Amends To Robert Scoble
Hi Jan, One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. I have to disagree with that. Viewers control the content. Meaning, studios only fund productions they think audiences will watch, buy a movie ticket, purchase a DVD, etc. It is the masses controlling what gets produced by big media... Listening to your audience (both through metrics and comments) and being responsive should always be #1 priority. The real power of new media is that direct access to your audience. Regards, -Frank http://mefeedia.com - Discover the Video Web --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jan McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why advertising is a dangerous way to go if you're interested in true things. One big reason big media rings so false: advertisers control content. Jan On Dec 27, 2007 10:37 PM, Jake Ludington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. I think this is BS too. If you think that's BS, you've never made your living solely from advertising. Advertisers do turn away when they perceive they are associating their brand with something negative or failing. If the advertisers turn away, the employees stop getting paid, lose their jobs, etc. Jake Ludington http://www.jakeludington.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- The Faux Press - better than real http://feeds.feedburner.com/diaryofafauxjournalist - RSS http://fauxpress.blogspot.com http://wburg.tv aim=janofsound air=862.571.5334 skype=janmclaughlin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] My Amends To Robert Scoble
I realize that this topic is dying so I thought, what better time to jump in? I have to say that, Robert, I agree with a lot of what you, Andrew, Schlomo, etc have said over the last week. If it's of any consolation, there's something I realized when dealing with the Wikipedia issue: When people begin to agree with the person that is being attacked, they stop contributing to the thread because a) they want it to die off, and b) they don't want to say anything supportive because they know their words will be twisted and picked apart, consequently prolonging the discussion and making things worse. That's the reason you don't hear as many supportive comments. I know as I write this that though I may be lending you a word of support I might attract an additional few negative responses. The more vocal people in this group seem to think that someone is constantly out to get them, control them, crush them. To them, collaboration means fake, gatekeepers only exists when more than one person produces a vlog, and doing something you love for a living means selling out. The roots of their often hypocritical views of mass media contributed to their distrust in Wikipedia. I am always wary of people that distrust Wikipedia as it reveals a lot. I think this problem in combination with the fact that this group is less relevant everyday is what sent the community downhill so fast. It's hard to argue that this group is dying. Anyway, that's my rant. If the list gets started again, feel free to add my name below scoble and schlomo. On Dec 26, 2007 2:13 AM, Robert Scoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gena, Thanks, this was a very nice Christmas present and a nice way to end a really great day. Someone just forwarded me your email and I appreciate that too. I haven't been able to respond over on the Cheryl page because it keeps saying my comments are spam, which is funny too. Oh well. One thing I wanted to say over there is that PodTech invested more than a million dollars in this community (seriously, I have the receipts, we hired dozens of videobloggers and even had a few on our staff, including people who are very active on this group). I've personally got tons of people here paid, some of which got paid more than $100,000 each since PodTech was born. Part of my frustration is that the community, rather than cheering on businesses that are trying to put food on videoblogger's tables, actually turn and attack and not in a helpful way and when someone is under attack I don't see many in this community come and stand up against the mob. I just looked back on the last few days of posts here and I see pretty predictable results from my outburst. But you didn't get the point. How many of you stood up when TechCrunch said that PodTech deserved to be in the dead pool? How many of you stood up when that same blog, or when Valleywag printed attacks against me? Not many. Hint: eventually sponsors and employees get the message and move money away from a company that isn't getting community support. And, worse, it definitely demoralizes the employees and makes them far less willing to take risks on behalf of the community. That's why Cheryl's post about Epic-FU rubbed me the wrong way. I can bite my lip when it's me under attack (although, no, it's not fun) but when I see a repeated pattern I felt I needed to speak out about it and this community has often not been friendly to those of us who are trying to make businesses that get more of us paid. Let's turn it away from PodTech. Have any of you thanked Revision3? Rocketboom? Huffington Post? Federated Media? Jason Calacanis? (He was attacked here, but my friends who worked for him say his paychecks never bounced). Leo Laporte? Epic-FU? Or any of the other people struggling to make money in this new art form? And there are dozens of others who are trying to build businesses here in the NewTeeVee industry. How many of you have stood up and said thank you to YouTube, Blip.tv, Kyte, or any of the other companies who are trying to make it possible for you to distribute your work (and get paid - I know at least one videoblogger who gets paid more than $10,000 per month thanks to YouTube's advertising deals)? Some of you have, and that's always appreciated. But most of you remain silent, or don't look to help out and make sure there are healthy businesses here. There's tons of others, too. As to PodTech's run-in with Lan Bui, there's a reason why we were arrogant in response: those pictures were taken at our party: the Vloggies. An employee used them without checking because she assumed that the community would support us and that pictures taken at our own event could be used without worrying too much and it was on a sign, not something that would make us tons of money. Turns out she was very wrong (how many of you have never made a mistake?), but if someone
