[videoblogging] Re: Rox Lumiere for Rupert

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
For the record, I don't really have any issue with Andreas making the 
manifesto, I will say that like Verdi and Cheryl stated, for the 
manefisto to come out after soliciting video's etc, put me off.  I 
would have liked to have known that before hand.  The manifesto is to 
a degree trying to define vlogging, which again a lot of people don't 
like.  

And I don't see a different standard, people ask for links to be 
removed from blogs, vlogs, etc all the time.  At the time I asked the 
question, Andreas did not make it clear if he would remove links, 
THAT was a big deal to me, because quite frankly I expected more from 
someone like Andreasbe that as it may.. regardless I am done with 
this

and btw, yes you are right, by putting our work out in the public we 
have to expect and accept certain things, but we should never expect 
or accept to completely give up our wishes and choices all together.  

Heath
http://batmangeek.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Miles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 On 18/01/2008, at 3:53 PM, Heath wrote:
 
  Taken in context with what is being said before in the manifesto, 
why
  is it unreasonable to think that someone may read the manifesto 
and
  conclude that Andreas and Brittany are in charge of the videos or
  have been given the videos to be taken care of. In both cases that
  can imply consent of the participants. That is why the we along
  with no disclaimer was bothering me.
 
 I can't answer that for others but for myself simply because when 
I  
 view the video page I see the names of the videomakers and links 
that  
 clearly point to external urls. The issue of consent is more  
 complicated, and what really is interesting here is that we seem 
to  
 want to apply (I'm not saying this is right or wrong) a different  
 standard to these video works than we would to, say, text.
 
 for example people run lots of reblog sites where content from blog 
A  
 is republished, in its entirety, at blog B (you can download 
software  
 to run such a site yourself, just Google reblog). Blog B contains 
a  
 link back to Blog A and attribution. (Gavin Sade runs an 
extraordinary  
 one at http://uber.tv/refeed/out/ ). Similarly we pull stuff out 
of  
 blog posts and quote them (in and out of context) as a matter of 
course.
 
 This is partly curation and partly the sample remix thing that we 
all  
 understand the web to be (and which we all happily use as we stick  
 soundtracks to our videos that we don't have permission to use). 
I'm  
 not getting into is it right or wrong here, but when we use artist 
Y's  
 soundtrack under our video we seem to recognise that this does not  
 mean that artist Y endorses our video (though i guess it does mean 
we  
 endorse artist Y).
 
 Why are we being so concerned about the video works? (I think the  
 answer is obvious - for as much as we want to use this 
sample/remix  
 stuff we are perhaps not so comfortable with it when it happens to  
 something of ours that we think is of value). But quite outside of 
the  
 particular example of the lumiere project I am intrigued how  
 reblogging appears to go unremarked, but try the same thing with 
video  
 and all sorts of dilemmas seem to arise.
 
 
 cheers
 Adrian Miles
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 bachelor communication honours coordinator
 vogmae.net.au





Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Steve Watkins wrote:
 Anarchism 
 as it is popularly misunderstood, has a flaw in that either external or 
 internal forces could 
 take control and intimidate people far wose than their own government ever 
 could. 


It is impossible for chaotic gangs of rabble to even dream of slaughtering or 
stealing on the scale that governments have in the 20th century.



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Sometimes maybe but other times the regulations are there for very good 
reasons, such as 
public health. Would removing regulation of advertising benefit the honest?

Deregulation of the banking sector in recent decades plays a large part in the 
financial 
nightmare that has begun.

I would certainly agree that one function of regulation is to make certain 
sectors 
inaccessible to smaller players, ut it often puts some shackles on the 
corporations too. 
Many times the lobbying they engage in is designed to weaken the regulation (eg 
food 
labelling).

Corrupt and unfair it may be, but I still prefer the rule of law to a 
free-for-all.

As for network scarcity, I dont find it easy to fully understand the realities. 
If things were 
more open, then the near monopolies of the telecoms companies could certainly 
be 
overcome. They will abuse their position, just like they did with traditional 
telecoms over 
the decades.  But its unclear whether smaller players could actually have built 
the 
necessary infrastructure for something like the internet. Indeed without 
governments or 
corporations, I am unsure how much of the IT revolution would have happened at 
all.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All of you are assuming network scarcity.  Networks are only scarce when 
 regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government regulation is 
 designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition pressure from 
 smaller players.  Deregulation benefits the honest.
 
 
 David Meade wrote:
  Yeah the scary stuffs starts when they start saying
  
  Video costs $1 ... unless you're getting it from the Comcast Media
  Store - then its free!   That violates net neutrality.
  
  It's also worth remembering that from the ISP standpoint - the
  publisher/hoster IS paying for the bandwidth used ... so some could
  argue here they're charging at both ends for the same thing.






[videoblogging] Disaster footage

2008-01-18 Thread Pete Prodoehl

Hello videobloggers!

Sorry I've not been around much (mainly lurking) but I am working on a 
video project right now that needs some disaster footage, think 
hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, extreme weather conditions... Also 
looking for some good city-scape stuff, lots of building in a big city.

If anyone has some footage online already that might work (or if you can 
get it online for us to check out) please email me off-list. If we can 
use it, we can pay you. (We don't have a huge budget, but we're artists 
too, and artists deserve to get paid!)


thanks peeps...


Pete Prodoehl





[videoblogging] Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread jt_hanner
Hi everyone,

Has anyone ever had to pay to use tubemogul.com or do you know if
there is a limit per month or year on how many videos you can upload?

Thank you,
Jill



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is impossible for chaotic gangs of rabble to even dream of
slaughtering or 
 stealing on the scale that governments have in the 20th century.

I'm pretty sure the slaughtering in a lawless society, where people
are clawing and scratching for precious natural resources and fighting
over the diminishing supply of manufactured goods, would catch up
pretty damn quickly.

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All of you are assuming network scarcity.  Networks are only scarce
when 
 regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government
regulation is 
 designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition pressure
from 
 smaller players.  Deregulation benefits the honest.

Deregulation benefits monopolists, polluters and sweatshop operators.
Also, Ayn Rand was full of crap.  ;)

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 4:01 pm, noel hidalgo wrote:
 dear america,

 you are truly becoming a third world nation ruled by corporations.

See, that's not the feeling I get for plans that work by charging people 
for bandwidth by use. This is one company picking one service to try. 
Customers may reject it, which will be people telling corporations to 
take the cable out of the F-type connector and shove it somewhere else.

Look at telephone service over the past 30 years ... there are more 
flat-rate and unlimited plans then ever before. Not all plans have 
gone that way. Some cell phone companies charge per minute, some flat 
fees and some charge a flat fee up to a certain minute limit. It's a 
good variety of models to pick from, and no one is right for everyone.

My cell provider gives me the option for a flat rate SMS  email plan, 
which is one reason I use them over other providers. For every 
per-megabyte cable provider there will be an alternative all you can 
suck WiMAX or DSL provider.

It's choice thanks to economics, the same economics that make it 
possible for regular citizens to affordably get into online content 
production.

As much as the cable company sucks, I'd rather deal with them than the 
government. It's easier to fire the cable company.
--
Brian Richardson
  - http://whatthecast.com
  - http://siliconchef.com
  - http://dragoncontv.com
  - http://www.3chip.com


[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
Eh, I'll probably just use mefeedia and cross my fingers...

Chris

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The only other easy solution I can think of is the tagging thing -
ie.,
 everyone upload to Blip and use the same tag. Then subscribe to the
rss feed
 for that search.
 
 But that breaks down if people are using YouTube or other non-blip
places to
 upload their videos.
 Just some thoughts...
 
 David
 
 On Jan 18, 2008 1:43 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
  Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
  
   i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can install for
   group projects.
   Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize.
   they own the content as far as i can see.
 
  I've no aversion to stitching together my own Frankenstein community
  using Blogger, Pbwiki, etc. for the individual pages.
 
  My question now is what to use to aggregate the videos in the
  challenge. I had thought mefeedia was the way to go, but I just did a
  test search for tagged videos of my own that have been sitting up on
  blip since the beginning of January, and found only one video of three
  bearing the same tag.
 
  Chris
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 David King
 davidleeking.com - blog
 http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





[videoblogging] Re: A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
Geoff, I've been using a free app called ffmpegx. It's worked pretty
well so far, and you can find it here:

http://homepage.mac.com/major4/

Chris

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, geoffdgeorge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, I recently took a trip to San Francisco, and I wanted to use some 
 footage from old tourism videos of the city that I found on the 
 Internet Archive.  Most of the videos there are either MPEG-4 or MPEG-
 2 files, and here's where the problem comes in:
 
 I edit with Final Cut Express.  When I try and import the MPEG-4 
 files, the program tells me it's an invalid file type.  When I try and 
 import the MPEG-2 files I get the video, but I lose the sound.  Do I 
 have to convert the MPEG files to .MOV files?  Is there a free way to 
 do this, or do I have to purchase Quicktime Pro?  The solution to this 
 problem may be fairly obvious, but I am not tech savvy, so any help 
 would be appreciated.





Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Eddie Codel
You mean like the Internet?

Hi Charles!

On Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to think
 that
 vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Oh come now, thats a bit of a distortion. Technology evolves, government often 
provides 
the research or the money for research that enables the foundation of the 
technology. In 
recent decades the trend is then to opn this technology up for other uses, 
commercialised 
by the private sector, and made available to the public.

Arpanet wasnt of limited use to the mases because it was a government thing and 
all 
government things are useless. Its purpose, as best I understand it, was to 
test what could 
be done, to link research institutions, and a whole bunch of military stuff 
that Ive never 
looked into.

Markets do some things right, but are catastrophically unsuitable for being the 
lone 
deciders in various realms.

Some promoters of 'the market is god' have it very easy, because when things 
seem to be 
going well, they can give the market credit, when things go wrong they can 
blame it on 
government or other forces distorting the market. 

Anyway people of all nations and political persuasions will have plenty to foam 
about and 
to fear in future, plenty of powerful forces of all kind to blame. I believe in 
equal 
opportunities, all shall take some blame for what has gone before and what will 
come to 
pass. The economic wibbles will require government intervention, the market 
cant handle 
some parts of the cycle. 

I mean I find it funny some people still angry about FDR and the new deal. I 
would ask 
them how else an economy recovers if the people and the businesses dont want to 
spend 
money, who else will restimulate things if not the government? The government 
can 
spend a lot because they have the responsibility to sort things out, and its 
not their 
money. It works though, usually, no matter what projects they spend it on. For 
this reason 
I sometimes like to think about moeny as if it is the lubricating oil of the 
machine, and 
sometimes governments can manage this better than markets etc.

My position is certainly not that governments are amazing things, markets are 
evil, or any 
other such extremes. Individuals, companies, governments, corporations, banks, 
charities 
can all take their share of the blame and credit for the failings and successes 
of the 
modern world. 

I would guess that small business, entrepreneurs, and nearly-free markets have 
played a 
larger role in the evolution of computer software ( now websites  services) 
than in the 
hardware side of things, but thats probably an oversimplification too. All the 
same, 
infrastructure and sophisticated physical science and technology, and much that 
has come 
from the industrial age, has been achieved through large-scale entities 
cooperating, 
namely governments and higher education institutions,a long with the military 
industrial 
complex and most huge corporations. Personally I think a lot of this 'progress' 
sucks but I 
will not deny the obvious luxuries it has brought to our standard of living. We 
may be 
free'er, saner, and more human if we were organised on much smaller scales, 
back to a 
local sphere, but much would also be lost. Perhaps we shall see for ourselves 
if the mass 
resources needed to power mass industry, economy  government start to dry up, 
perhaps such talk is premature. It certainly exposes one of the flaws of some 
free market 
models, that if demand is there, supply will somehow be achieved. Resource 
reality will 
kill that ideology one day, just dont know when, I could have said the same in 
the 70's and 
been waiting all this time for it to come. 

Anyway Im not American, I need to learn more, were the railroads an early 
example of 
interesting battles between people, companies  government at one stage?

Cheers

Steve Elbows 
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Eddie!
 
 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any 
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.  
 Everything 
 newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging 
 possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.
 
 
 
 Eddie Codel wrote:
  You mean like the Internet?
  
  Hi Charles!
  
  On Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to think
  that
  vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants.
 
 
  
  
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  
  
  
   
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
 






[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can see how my arguments would appear empty to anybody who can't
distinguish 
 between having benefited from and in spite of. They can observe
plucky 
 survival under harsh conditions, and credit the survival upon the
treacherous 
 conditions instead of the brave survivors!  What's more, I don't
believe I can 
 disprove such a claim.

But it isn't in spite of. Your argument is predicated on the absurd
notion that unregulated industry will always ultimately do what's best
for the consumer, because market conditions will force it to. How many
people will have to be poisoned and how many rivers polluted until
this mystical self correction takes place?

Sorry if I'm not willing to place implicit trust in this mystical
honor system you seem to believe in, that will magically rein in
these entities that have so far shown no compunctions against raping
the planet, exploiting Third World labor and generally screwing the
underclass.

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why do you put honor system in quotes?  I never used that phrase.
  It wasn't 
 the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell
 phones in 
 the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich and poor.  It was pink 
 unicorns. We are literally surrounded by the gifts bestowed by pink
 unicorns, 
 and whenever pink unicorns are abolished, people become miserable,
 but if you 
 nevertheless refuse to believe in them, there's no further proof I
 can produce. 
   So I suppose that makes you correct.
 
 I don't know, it always seems to me there's an undercurrent of
 industry is honest and government is not in these arguments. But
 you're right, I shouldn't have made the assumption that you were
 suggesting a code of ethics might keep corporations honest sans
 regulation.


Not only did I not say it, but nobody says it.  There are no defenses of free 
markets reliant upon such ludicrous assumptions. The arguments are either based 
on observation (observe that wealth is proportional to economic freedom), or 
morals (only voluntary transactions preserve human dignity).

If I, like you, had no idea how naked self-interest could paradoxically result 
in good quality at affordable prices, my worldview would be equally depressive. 
Left to themselves, I would think that companies would charge infinite prices 
for abysmal goods, and only regulation enables consumers to survive.  How 
complete communism doesn't follow from that is beyond me. Do you really have 
any reasons why the government should not regulate all production and 
distribution? Why wouldn't consumers benefit from this?


RE: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
The Internets were largely, if I recall, developed by private companies
(like BBN) under (D)ARPA grant.  While the funding came from .gov, the
innovation came from .com.  Soon thereafter .com pretty much took over,
no?

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eddie Codel
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:37 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

You mean like the Internet?

Hi Charles!

On Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to
think
 that
 vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants.




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 
Yahoo! Groups Links





RE: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
The real world isn't black and white, even if we'd like it to be.  There
are varying degrees of regulation.  Some regulation can be good.
Stifling regulation is rarely, if ever, good.  Pink unicorns may have
managed to bring us a chocolate river while some regulation existed, but
you'd be hard-pressed to make a case for regulation on this basis. 

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:05 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Eddie!
 
 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would
find any 
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.
 Everything 
 newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made
vlogging 
 possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.

Who, amazingly, were able to do so under government regulation. Your
argument is still as empty as air.

Chris



 
Yahoo! Groups Links





RE: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Hudack
While I generally agree with you that corporations are not automatically
evil, that government is not automatically good and that free markets
are wonderful, I still find it curious that you insist that there are
no defenses of free markets reliant upon such ludicrous assumptions.  

I'm sure there are people out there who make such arguments... I've
heard such arguments.  You may reject them as invalid, but that doesn't
mean that they don't exist.

By the way... where do I get a pink unicorn?  I want one. 

-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles HOPE
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:29 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

Chris wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Why do you put honor system in quotes?  I never used that phrase.
  It wasn't 
 the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell
 phones in 
 the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich and poor.  It was
pink 
 unicorns. We are literally surrounded by the gifts bestowed by pink
 unicorns, 
 and whenever pink unicorns are abolished, people become miserable,
 but if you 
 nevertheless refuse to believe in them, there's no further proof I
 can produce. 
   So I suppose that makes you correct.
 
 I don't know, it always seems to me there's an undercurrent of
 industry is honest and government is not in these arguments. But
 you're right, I shouldn't have made the assumption that you were
 suggesting a code of ethics might keep corporations honest sans
 regulation.


Not only did I not say it, but nobody says it.  There are no defenses of
free 
markets reliant upon such ludicrous assumptions. The arguments are
either based 
on observation (observe that wealth is proportional to economic
freedom), or 
morals (only voluntary transactions preserve human dignity).

If I, like you, had no idea how naked self-interest could paradoxically
result 
in good quality at affordable prices, my worldview would be equally
depressive. 
Left to themselves, I would think that companies would charge infinite
prices 
for abysmal goods, and only regulation enables consumers to survive.
How 
complete communism doesn't follow from that is beyond me. Do you really
have 
any reasons why the government should not regulate all production and 
distribution? Why wouldn't consumers benefit from this?


 
Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry if I'm not willing to place implicit trust in this mystical
 honor system you seem to believe in, that will magically rein in
 these entities that have so far shown no compunctions against raping
 the planet, exploiting Third World labor and generally screwing the
 underclass.


Why do you put honor system in quotes?  I never used that phrase.  It wasn't 
the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell phones in 
the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich and poor.  It was pink 
unicorns. We are literally surrounded by the gifts bestowed by pink unicorns, 
and whenever pink unicorns are abolished, people become miserable, but if you 
nevertheless refuse to believe in them, there's no further proof I can produce. 
  So I suppose that makes you correct.


Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Chris wrote:
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Eddie!

 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would
 find any 
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.
  Everything 
 newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging 
 possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.
 
 Who, amazingly, were able to do so under government regulation. Your
 argument is still as empty as air.


I can see how my arguments would appear empty to anybody who can't distinguish 
between having benefited from and in spite of. They can observe plucky 
survival under harsh conditions, and credit the survival upon the treacherous 
conditions instead of the brave survivors!  What's more, I don't believe I can 
disprove such a claim.



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is there some equivalent to Godwin's Law regarding free market fights?
 There should be.

Rule Number One: You do not talk about Free Market Fight Club.  ;)

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brian Richardson -
WhatTheCast? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Something tells me if I needed the government to do that for me it
would 
 cost $30,000 in somebody elses tax dollars, take two weeks to produce 
 and sound like it was recorded on a Victrola ... and me in a format 
 unreadable unless your audio system runs ADA or FORTRAN.

I don't think anybody, short of a few free market utopians, suggested
that anybody was arguing the government should be doing everything for
everybody.

I and a few people were simply arguing that government regulation of
business is necessary, to maintain things like honest and fair trade,
safety of products, humane wage and working conditions for those
making those products, and minimal environmental damage in the
manufacturing and use of those products.

So far, nobody's argument has succeeded in convincing me that lifting
all regulation would magically transform America into a fairytale land
of chocolate rivers and pink unicorns.

Chris



[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Sinton
Hi Chris,

cross my fingers? :) 

You may want to try:

http://mefeedia.com/tags/semanal08/videostream_widgets/

(this is available for any tag)

We are working on developing something even better in this area, and
have taken the wish list posted by Rupert on the Ning site as a
starting point. 

Anyone can add to that wish list, or feel free to post your wishes
here, or our user group, or email me directly:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/mefeedia-users/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Regards,
Frank

http://www.mefeedia.com - Discovery the Video Web


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Eh, I'll probably just use mefeedia and cross my fingers...
 
 Chris
 
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, David King davidleeking@
 wrote:
 
  The only other easy solution I can think of is the tagging thing -
 ie.,
  everyone upload to Blip and use the same tag. Then subscribe to the
 rss feed
  for that search.
  
  But that breaks down if people are using YouTube or other non-blip
 places to
  upload their videos.
  Just some thoughts...
  
  David
  
  On Jan 18, 2008 1:43 PM, Chris cjburdick@ wrote:
  
 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
   Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
   
i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can
install for
group projects.
Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize.
they own the content as far as i can see.
  
   I've no aversion to stitching together my own Frankenstein community
   using Blogger, Pbwiki, etc. for the individual pages.
  
   My question now is what to use to aggregate the videos in the
   challenge. I had thought mefeedia was the way to go, but I just
did a
   test search for tagged videos of my own that have been sitting up on
   blip since the beginning of January, and found only one video of
three
   bearing the same tag.
  
   Chris
  

  
  
  
  
  -- 
  David King
  davidleeking.com - blog
  http://davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
  
  
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[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I, like you, had no idea how naked self-interest could
paradoxically result 
 in good quality at affordable prices, my worldview would be equally
depressive.

Arguments of quality and price are not the whole of the argument.
There's environmental impact, fair treatment of labor and a whole lot
of other factors that I don't feel an unregulated free market would
adequately address.

But I'm tired of this discussion, so have fun dreaming your little
dreamy dreams of an anarchy that somehow doesn't end up looking like
the second Mad Max movie...

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Hey Eddie!

There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would find any 
value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.  Everything 
newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging 
possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.



Eddie Codel wrote:
 You mean like the Internet?
 
 Hi Charles!
 
 On Jan 18, 2008 2:05 PM, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to think
 that
 vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants.


 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread David King
The only other easy solution I can think of is the tagging thing - ie.,
everyone upload to Blip and use the same tag. Then subscribe to the rss feed
for that search.

But that breaks down if people are using YouTube or other non-blip places to
upload their videos.
Just some thoughts...

David

On Jan 18, 2008 1:43 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com,
 Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can install for
  group projects.
  Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize.
  they own the content as far as i can see.

 I've no aversion to stitching together my own Frankenstein community
 using Blogger, Pbwiki, etc. for the individual pages.

 My question now is what to use to aggregate the videos in the
 challenge. I had thought mefeedia was the way to go, but I just did a
 test search for tagged videos of my own that have been sitting up on
 blip since the beginning of January, and found only one video of three
 bearing the same tag.

 Chris

  




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[videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
Ok we will call it a lakeside discussion  ;)

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at
   vloggercamp! Not only fair use, but the overall effect of 
linking,
   etc
 
 cool! though I think at Vloggercamp we should have no panels.
 we can have workshops or time to hang out and talk about these 
things
 by a lake with no wifi.
 
 you, Bill and David Meade (and other midwest vloggers) should start
 thinking of some kind of structure.
 
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[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can install for
 group projects.
 Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize.
 they own the content as far as i can see.

I've no aversion to stitching together my own Frankenstein community
using Blogger, Pbwiki, etc. for the individual pages.

My question now is what to use to aggregate the videos in the
challenge. I had thought mefeedia was the way to go, but I just did a
test search for tagged videos of my own that have been sitting up on
blip since the beginning of January, and found only one video of three
bearing the same tag.

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
  I think Jay is right from the creators' perspective, but I would like
  to look at this from a different angle, namely the relationship
  between a video maker and the subject. When I ask for permission to
  photograph someone without a written release, I usually explain why I
  am taking the video and what it will be used for. Often it is
  implicitly understood. Neither I nor my subjects have had any
  problems with this. However, if someone grabs that same material and
  re-edits it or embeds it in another site, then it interferes with the
  trust between me and my subject.

i hear you. you are perfectly laying out the crux of the question.
If you replace video/photograph with text, does this change the argument?
Why?

If I interview you for a newspaper, there is never any issue if
someone else uses that quote for another text work.
its just understood that my interview becomes part of the larger conversation.

As John said, if im just ripping off parts of your video because Im
lazy, bad news.
Just like if I plagerize by stealing your text as my own.
But if Im using parts of your video to build on a bigger conversation,
why are the rules different for video and text?

remember, the majority of videoblogs is not TV or movies.
it is moments, commentary, and conversations.

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[videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Heath
Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at 
vloggercamp!  Not only fair use, but the overall effect of linking, 
etc

Heath
http://batmangeek.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Two laywers (one from NBC, the other from Columbia law school) are
 discussing what fair use these days when it come to remixing.
 http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/16/830/
 
 NBC laywer says, fair use is not a right, a misconception and
 misstatement frequently made these days.
 you can imagine how the conversation goes from here.
 
 This is a really interesting argument in light of the issue that 
John
 had over at Total Vom:
 
http://www.detrimentalinformation.com/2008/01/my_legal_struggle_with_c
hristi.html
 
 As ive said before, its strange that it's totally accepted and
 encouraged for text bloggers to use text from other sources to build
 their own work.
 The lawyer from Columbia uses the example of the NY Times Book 
review
 using quotes from books without fear.
 This makes for a healthy media ecosystem.
 So why would online video be any different?
 
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[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Steve Watkins
Ive not tried any white label social networking stuff myself but this 
comparison chart may 
be useful to you:

http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/wlsn_comparison_chart.html

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman jay.dedman@ wrote:
 
  Rupert, Zenuno, and I have been a little bothered by Ning.
  Dont like how it sends notifications emails without the message text
 (only
  link to site).
  Plus it doesnt look like we can get access to the info we're all posting
  (like the database)
  
  So we are moving over to http://semanal.org.
 
 Are there any ning alternatives for us non-techies, for whom a
 customized WordPress site isn't an option?
 
 I've a hankering to set up my own vlog challenge community, but would
 rather run my own AdSense ads than ning's (and I don't want to pay
 $19.95 a month for that option).
 
 Suggestions?
 
 Chris






Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Adam Quirk
Actually this was one of the more civil discussions I've seen here in recent
months, although hilariously cynical and sarcastic at points.  Enjoyed
reading it.  Some good points all around, I learned a couple things to boot,
and was confused thoroughly by others.  Like, do these river-dwelling
unicorns have gills?  What governing agency regulates the flow of chocolate?

On Jan 18, 2008 8:17 PM, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Arguments of quality and price are not the whole of the argument.
  There's environmental impact, fair treatment of labor and a whole lot
  of other factors that I don't feel an unregulated free market would
  adequately address.
 
  But I'm tired of this discussion, so have fun dreaming your little
  dreamy dreams of an anarchy that somehow doesn't end up looking like
  the second Mad Max movie...
 
  Chris

 Actually, I rescind that last little dig. I'm sick of the vitriol, on
 my end as well as on yours. I apologize for any language in my
 arguments that was unnecessarily incendiary.

 I don't agree with you, but I don't bear you any personal ill will.

 Okay, NOW I'm out of the thread. ;)

 No hard feelings,

 Chris




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[videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread py kim conant
I have used this Tubemogul since the last week of December. I have been able to 
upload videos on 12 sites once. Not paid so far. Here are some pros and cons 
about the Tubemogul.
   
  1. Pros: absolutely free
  2. Pros: the statistisics to show how many people watched each day on each 
site and each video with graphs: it's owesome. 
   
  3. Cons: Uploading takes time, 
  4. not happy about the process to upload: not accurate sometimes For 
instance, it shows that my video has not been upload on Dailymotion then I 
checked it on Dailymotion and it shows that the video already showed and played 
on the site. I can't depend on the processing results on after uploaded
   
  I have recommeded this site to other people.
   


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Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brook Hinton
Is there some equivalent to Godwin's Law regarding free market fights?
There should be.

Brook


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 5:45 pm, Chris wrote:
 I don't think anybody, short of a few free market utopians, suggested
 that anybody was arguing the government should be doing everything for
 everybody.

True, but it seems people want someone to save them if the cable company 
decides to charge per megabyte rather than how they do now ... I'm not 
sure how that went into the anti-corporate conversational generator, but 
it did seem to bring out a lot of companies are the sux0r. Just 
thought another side did need to come out.

(Sidenote: yes, I know the original project that created what we call 
The Internet was a DoD grant to create a distributed network. However, 
its growth and adoption is thanks to government removing restrictions on 
its use.)
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[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Arguments of quality and price are not the whole of the argument.
 There's environmental impact, fair treatment of labor and a whole lot
 of other factors that I don't feel an unregulated free market would
 adequately address.
 
 But I'm tired of this discussion, so have fun dreaming your little
 dreamy dreams of an anarchy that somehow doesn't end up looking like
 the second Mad Max movie...
 
 Chris

Actually, I rescind that last little dig. I'm sick of the vitriol, on
my end as well as on yours. I apologize for any language in my
arguments that was unnecessarily incendiary.

I don't agree with you, but I don't bear you any personal ill will.

Okay, NOW I'm out of the thread. ;)

No hard feelings,

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy

On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Charles HOPE wrote:

 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would  
 find any
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.


btw, who are the other four?  Hey, Mr RichardShow, are you one?

our particular kind of value back then was using the ARPANET to  
connect from UCSB to Moffet Field where we were teaching *long*  
division to one of the first parallel processing computers (the  
ILLIAC IV, 128 parallel CPU's, fun with FORTRAN).

at night we used it to play the game RISK using the net.  my  
housemate Bert was a master.  He'd hack the code to change the land  
masses mid-game and lock up your navy in a big inland sea.

wish we had video back then

please pardon the acid flashback :)

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[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why do you put honor system in quotes?  I never used that phrase.
 It wasn't 
 the honor system or any other sort of kindness that put cheap cell
phones in 
 the hands of nearly everybody in the West, rich and poor.  It was pink 
 unicorns. We are literally surrounded by the gifts bestowed by pink
unicorns, 
 and whenever pink unicorns are abolished, people become miserable,
but if you 
 nevertheless refuse to believe in them, there's no further proof I
can produce. 
   So I suppose that makes you correct.

I don't know, it always seems to me there's an undercurrent of
industry is honest and government is not in these arguments. But
you're right, I shouldn't have made the assumption that you were
suggesting a code of ethics might keep corporations honest sans
regulation.

Because the fact remains NOTHING would.

Hmmm... cell phones, affordable and ubiquitous. In a REGULATED economy.

If what these pink unicorns bestow include mine collapses, tainted pet
food, frequent e coli outbreaks, lead in toys, dwindling ice caps and
mass species endangerment, then you're right... we ARE literally
surrounded. But I wouldn't call the steaming pink piles your unicorns
leave gifts.

Chris



[videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Eddie!
 
 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would
find any 
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.
 Everything 
 newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made vlogging 
 possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.

Who, amazingly, were able to do so under government regulation. Your
argument is still as empty as air.

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread noel hidalgo
dear america,

you are truly becoming a third world nation ruled by corporations.

sincerely,
noneck

ps - it's great to see that after 6 months traveling the globe,
america is starting to take after other innovation leaders... i for
one can't wait to get back to dial up! i love pine


Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry (and morph into for-pay services)

2008-01-18 Thread Roxanne Darling
I have been working with them for some time. I upload almost daily a new
episode to cross post elsewhere. So far have not received any notices about
limits or about fees. I like the convenience, the interface, and the stats
(assuming they're as accurate as to be expected - but don't get me started
on that topic!) They have very good reporting features - by site and/or as
aggregate and you can get your reports emailed to you daily or weekly. They
recently added auto upload to blip tho I haven't tried that yet.  It's on my
to do list. I've also met them in person, like them, and yes they are
Berkeley - East Bay Northern California.  Very smart and have received some
funding.
I hope they develop a paid model because I want them to stay around.  With
the economy on the skids I want to support valid business models and am
happy - happy! to pay for services that make my life easier or [fill in the
blank here]. We as producers want to be paid. Being willing to pay is part
of the circle IMO and I personally would like to see more exploration of
sustainability so we can continue to create and be supported and support
others who create.  It's could be a sub-species of the socially responsible
investing movement which says put your money where your heart is.

Hey - it's Aloha Friday!  Hope you all are wearing your flowered shirts and
sarongs!

Rox



On Jan 18, 2008 9:21 AM, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, rumors have been going around that they're about to go to a paid
 model.
  In fact, someone I know was contacted by them yesterday saying he'd gone
  over the submitting new limit and they wanted to discuss a paid model
  with him
  Note: They did not delete his account. To their credit, they didn't
 charge
  him either, they just said they wanted to talk about it.
  Great service, and I'd still use it unless it was too expensive.

 I think they work out of Oakland.
 its definitely a start-up with a business plan.
 yo should email Mark and ask him.

 Jay

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[videoblogging] Comparing Flash encoding across different sites

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Here is very interesting research comparing different ways that various sites 
(blip.tv, Veoh, Vimeo, Google Video and YouTube) encode Flash video.

http://hastalavistavista.wordpress.com/category/video-datasheets/


Re: [videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
  Are there any ning alternatives for us non-techies, for whom a
  customized WordPress site isn't an option?
  I've a hankering to set up my own vlog challenge community, but would
  rather run my own AdSense ads than ning's (and I don't want to pay
  $19.95 a month for that option).
  Suggestions?

i dont think there are any plug and play systems you can install for
group projects.
Ning certainly does make it easy and they do let you customize.
they own the content as far as i can see.

Wordpress certainly has a learning curve, but it's pretty easy to set up.
though im not sure it solves all our problems, we do need to have an
open solution for group video projects.
i like them.

Jay

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Fair use in the Digital Age

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
 Jay, I think this would make for an interesting panel at
  vloggercamp! Not only fair use, but the overall effect of linking,
  etc

cool! though I think at Vloggercamp we should have no panels.
we can have workshops or time to hang out and talk about these things
by a lake with no wifi.

you, Bill and David Meade (and other midwest vloggers) should start
thinking of some kind of structure.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Jay dedman
 Yes, rumors have been going around that they're about to go to a paid model.
  In fact, someone I know was contacted by them yesterday saying he'd gone
  over the submitting new limit and they wanted to discuss a paid model
 with him
  Note: They did not delete his account. To their credit, they didn't charge
  him either, they just said they wanted to talk about it.
  Great service, and I'd still use it unless it was too expensive.

I think they work out of Oakland.
its definitely a start-up with a business plan.
yo should email Mark and ask him.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy
fwiw,

i met mark rotblat from tubemogul last year at a vlogger meetup

i got the impression that this was intended to be a for-pay service.

However, upon looking at the current site, i see nothing about  
pricing for more than the 10 vid limit.

markus

On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Bill Cammack wrote:

 I don't use Tubemogul, but a bunch of people here have mentioned that
 they like it. I haven't heard anything about them having a limit on
 their uploads or having to pay for anything.

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Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy

On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Charles HOPE wrote:

 There are probably fewer than five people on this list that would  
 find any
 value in the old-school ARPANET the government gave us decades ago.  
 Everything
 newer than that, and the cheap hardware and software that made  
 vlogging
 possible, is a chocolate river brought to us by pink unicorns.


the role that the government played is the equivalent of an associate  
producer ;)




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Re: [videoblogging] A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Markus Sandy

On Jan 18, 2008, at 2:18 PM, geoffdgeorge wrote:

 So, I recently took a trip to San Francisco, and I wanted to use some
 footage from old tourism videos of the city that I found on the
 Internet Archive. Most of the videos there are either MPEG-4 or MPEG-
 2 files, and here's where the problem comes in:

 I edit with Final Cut Express. When I try and import the MPEG-4
 files, the program tells me it's an invalid file type. When I try and
 import the MPEG-2 files I get the video, but I lose the sound. Do I
 have to convert the MPEG files to .MOV files? Is there a free way to
 do this, or do I have to purchase Quicktime Pro? The solution to this
 problem may be fairly obvious, but I am not tech savvy, so any help
 would be appreciated.


which of the archive mpeg4 files are you using?

you probably know, but be sure it's the one that ends with  
_edit.mp4 in the url (the  so called 'hi-res' version)

i have not had any problem editing these with quicktime pro or in  
imovie.  i don't know about FCP, but lots of folks here have utilized  
these videos, so someone here should be able to relay experiences  
using FCP.

i've also accessed the mpeg-2 files using quicktime pro with the  
mpeg-2 addition (yet another QT tax).  this was unsatisfactory for  
two reasons (1) the apple addon is for playback only, not editing and  
(2) most of the mpeg2's on archive suck in quality (imho).  the mpeg4  
edit versions are more recent and seem to have been created with more  
care than the mpeg2's.  In fact, the mpeg2's often don't even open in  
anything (after a 2GB or more download!!!); just a bad file in those  
cases.

alternatively, you could look at the other internet archive where  
they *sell* the high quality versions of these.  both are run by the  
same folks.

markus




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[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rupert, Zenuno, and I have been a little bothered by Ning.
 Dont like how it sends notifications emails without the message text
(only
 link to site).
 Plus it doesnt look like we can get access to the info we're all posting
 (like the database)
 
 So we are moving over to http://semanal.org.

Are there any ning alternatives for us non-techies, for whom a
customized WordPress site isn't an option?

I've a hankering to set up my own vlog challenge community, but would
rather run my own AdSense ads than ning's (and I don't want to pay
$19.95 a month for that option).

Suggestions?

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Steve Watkins wrote:
 Sometimes maybe but other times the regulations are there for very good 
 reasons, such as 
 public health. Would removing regulation of advertising benefit the honest?
 
 Deregulation of the banking sector in recent decades plays a large part in 
 the financial 
 nightmare that has begun.

That wasn't deregulation, it was partial regulation, where profits are 
privatized and losses are socialized.  Under deregulation, you could start your 
own bank right now. Let's see you get away with that!

 I would certainly agree that one function of regulation is to make certain 
 sectors 
 inaccessible to smaller players, ut it often puts some shackles on the 
 corporations too. 
 Many times the lobbying they engage in is designed to weaken the regulation 
 (eg food 
 labelling).

 From the perspective of Big Business, the ideal amount of regulation is a 
hurdle high enough for only them to overcome. So sometimes it needs a little 
readjustment! However, Big Business never prefers complete deregulation, which 
is a fact that critics of the free market need to recognize.

 Corrupt and unfair it may be, but I still prefer the rule of law to a 
 free-for-all.
 
 As for network scarcity, I dont find it easy to fully understand the 
 realities. If things were 
 more open, then the near monopolies of the telecoms companies could certainly 
 be 
 overcome. They will abuse their position, just like they did with traditional 
 telecoms over 
 the decades.  

Traditional telecoms exist as government protected monopolies, and even after 
being deregulated in the United States, were still completely subject to the 
FCC.

Communication monopolies are created and protected by governments. A market 
would make much more efficient use of wireless spectrum, and permit competitors 
to string up and bury so many more cables, such that any company with an 
unpopular tiered-pricing system, the like of which is under discussion, would 
simply be hurting themselves.

Under the current context of regulation, our only recourse is to throw money at 
our Congressmen, and if Big Business outspends us and wins, at least we can 
take consolation that we remain safe under the rule of law.


[videoblogging] Re: Comparing Flash encoding across different sites

2008-01-18 Thread Frank Sinton
Thanks for the link - excellent reading!

We have found that the abandonment rate goes up exponentially when the
user has to wait more than 3 seconds for a video to load. YouTube
consistently delivers on this playback experience - partially because
of their philosophy on bitrate and partially because of the $$$ they
have put into CDN. Blip has gotten a lot better in this area recently
too. 

Regards,
Frank


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here is very interesting research comparing different ways that
various sites 
 (blip.tv, Veoh, Vimeo, Google Video and YouTube) encode Flash video.
 
 http://hastalavistavista.wordpress.com/category/video-datasheets/





Re: [videoblogging] Re: It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Ron Watson
yay!
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://discdogradio.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Chris wrote:

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Charles HOPE [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 
  All of you are assuming network scarcity. Networks are only scarce
 when
  regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government
 regulation is
  designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition pressure
 from
  smaller players. Deregulation benefits the honest.

 Deregulation benefits monopolists, polluters and sweatshop operators.
 Also, Ayn Rand was full of crap. ;)

 Chris


 



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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Jim Kukral
Yes, rumors have been going around that they're about to go to a paid model.
In fact, someone I know was contacted by them yesterday saying he'd gone
over the submitting new limit and they wanted to discuss a paid model with
him. 

 

Note: They did not delete his account. To their credit, they didn't charge
him either, they just said they wanted to talk about it.

 

Great service, and I'd still use it unless it was too expensive.

 

Jim Kukral

Watch my Daily Flip promo video show:

http://www.jimkukral.com/the-daily-flip/ 

 

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill Cammack
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 1:24 PM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

 

I don't use Tubemogul, but a bunch of people here have mentioned that
they like it. I haven't heard anything about them having a limit on
their uploads or having to pay for anything.

--
Bill
http://BillCammack.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com , jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Has anyone ever had to pay to use tubemogul.com or do you know if
 there is a limit per month or year on how many videos you can upload?
 
 Thank you,
 Jill


 



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[videoblogging] Re: Tubemogul Inquiry

2008-01-18 Thread Bill Cammack
I don't use Tubemogul, but a bunch of people here have mentioned that
they like it.  I haven't heard anything about them having a limit on
their uploads or having to pay for anything.

--
Bill
http://BillCammack.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, jt_hanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 Has anyone ever had to pay to use tubemogul.com or do you know if
 there is a limit per month or year on how many videos you can upload?
 
 Thank you,
 Jill





Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
All of you are assuming network scarcity.  Networks are only scarce when 
regulated by a government (FCC, USPS, et al.) Most government regulation is 
designed by large corporate lobbyists to thwart competition pressure from 
smaller players.  Deregulation benefits the honest.


David Meade wrote:
 Yeah the scary stuffs starts when they start saying
 
 Video costs $1 ... unless you're getting it from the Comcast Media
 Store - then its free!   That violates net neutrality.
 
 It's also worth remembering that from the ISP standpoint - the
 publisher/hoster IS paying for the bandwidth used ... so some could
 argue here they're charging at both ends for the same thing.


[videoblogging] Alternatives to ning? (Was Re: Video a week, evolved)

2008-01-18 Thread Chris
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ive not tried any white label social networking stuff myself but
this comparison chart may 
 be useful to you:
 
 http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/wlsn_comparison_chart.html

Thanks, Steve. This definitely gives me a better idea of what's out there.

Chris



Re: [videoblogging] It begins...

2008-01-18 Thread Charles HOPE
Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? wrote:

 My cell provider gives me the option for a flat rate SMS  email plan, 
 which is one reason I use them over other providers. For every 
 per-megabyte cable provider there will be an alternative all you can 
 suck WiMAX or DSL provider.

But surely these low prices must be due to regulation!  Otherwise, the phone 
companies could charge whatever they wanted, and we would be paying $thousands 
a month for phone service, no?

 It's choice thanks to economics, the same economics that make it 
 possible for regular citizens to affordably get into online content 
 production.

Judging from some of the attitudes here, one might be inclined to think that 
vlogging was invented by the government and promoted by grants.


Re: [videoblogging] Re: A technical question:

2008-01-18 Thread Brook Hinton
Simpler than ffmpegx is Mpeg Streamclip. You do need to have either
Compressor, DVD Studio Pro, or purchase the quicktime mpeg2 component
though, but the program itself is free:
www.squared5.com

Basically, yes, you need to get the files out of a temporally
compressed format and into something more FCP-friendly, and do it with
a program that can demux the mpeg2 files in the process.

Brook


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film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com
studio vlog/blog: www.brookhinton.com/temporalab