Re: [Videolib] Retirement ~ Retunement ~ Farewell
Congrats Elizabeth, I remember 15 years ago at my first NMM you and Jo Flick so graciously showed me the ropes, even though I was a competitor. You were always the consummate professional and general all around wonderful person. And dancer. Thanks, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > > From: on behalf of Elizabeth Stanley > > Reply-To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Date: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 at 6:23 PM > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Retirement ~ Retunement ~ Farewell > > > > Dear friends on Videolib, > > > > It is with great joy and a measure of sadness that I write to say farewell to > my friends and colleagues. On October 1st I completed twenty-nine years with > Bullfrog Films, through four format shifts (from 16mm to VHS to DVD to > streaming). At the National Media Market in Baltimore I shared my news in > person with attendees, and celebrated my retirement with cake and music in > the Bullfrog Films suite. > > > > Under a full moon, moving towards the Winter Solstice, I see my path to lay > it all down. > > > > Thanks to all of you who have worked with me and Bullfrog Films all these > years. I am grateful for your support and encouragement. One of my favorite > jokes (I’ll tell you another time) has a great punchline: “Ist es nicht > wunderbar dass wir doch zusammen gekommen sind!” > > > > Isn’t it wonderful that we got together! > > > > With love and gratitude, > > Elizabeth > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] hip-hop docs on dvd?
Hi Maureen, Film Ideas has a new 6-part series called Fonko: Contemporary Africa Through Its Urban Music. More rap than hip hop but a fascinating look at the impact of society on the music and vice versa. Take a look if not for this class then fine arts and African Studies in general. I think it will be a best seller. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:40 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Maureen Tripp > Date: November 16, 2016 10:07:40 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] hip-hop docs on dvd? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Does anyone know of a source for And You Don’t Stop: 30 Years of Hip-Hop? > My Mic Sounds Nice? > The Furious Force of Rhymes? > A faculty member wants to use these in a new course this spring. > Thanks, collective wisdom. > Maureen > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime
Thanks Cathy. Great to have a scholarly work specifically on the topic instead of us speculating. Hopefully I'm not violating any copyrights by copying an excerpt but if you don't want to read all 22 pages the conclusion is (Page 235): In the case of a streaming Netflix video, the copy is made in the classroom by the educator as the Netflix account holder in the context of public utilization of the streaming account for the benefit of students and the institutioin. Since any copy, even an ephemeral one, made other than for "personal use" is outside the grant of rights under the Terms of Use. The user may be violating both copyright and applicable contract law by creating the classroom copy, which would therefore not be "lawfully made." As the classroom exception in 110(a) requires the use of a lawfully made copy, the exception would be inapplicable, and absent another exception or defense, the instructor would be violating the Copyright Act by showing the Netflix-streamed video in class. Bob > > > From: Cathy Michael > Date: October 20, 2016 12:13:24 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hello, again. The question came up recently for me and I shared this article > with my faculty: https://works.bepress.com/jonathan_ezor/12/ Best, Cathy > > Catherine H. Michael > Communications & Legal Studies Librarian > Ithaca College Library > 953 Danby Road, Ithaca, NY 14850 > Phone | 607-274-1293 > More About Me | Anonymous Feedback: Have I helped you today? > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime
Andy, I agree the location does not matter. It could be in a classroom, office or a box with green eggs and ham. To me the issue is personal vs. public. Giving my age away, way back when it was simple. The personal or consumer home video license was for viewing in your dwelling by yourself and your invitees. That is the only place you could technically play back video. Now you can watch video anywhere so the personal use description has to be expanded to say for example an airport lounge. But that doesn't mean everyone in the lounge can watch it, only those personal to you. Clearly a personal rights license intends to restrict usage as you say. But the simple act of limiting usage does not make it personal. With your logic a professor could invite the whole campus to view a program. The general public would be excluded. But how is that personal? I believe Swank lawyers would come knocking if you tried that with their movies. You still have to look at the nature of the viewers and I maintain students are not personal as noted before. Regards, Bob On Oct 17, 2016, at 8:56 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > > From: Andrew Horbal > Date: October 17, 2016 8:56:33 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I think it's relevant that the license states that it's okay to screen the > film in a location such as a "hotel room, dorm room, office, or airport > waiting lounge" provided that the screening "is limited to a private viewing > for you and your invitees" (note that the license says "invitees," not > "friends'). It seems probable to me that the intent is simply to restrict the > number of people who are able to see the film to the licensee and people > chosen to see it by the licensee (as opposed to the general "public"), and > that if this condition is met, the location of the screening isn't important. > > I don't think there's any question that according to this license, the > professor could invite a group of students to their office to watch the film. > Continuing along this path, I submit the following: > > 1. There's no functional difference between the professor inviting the > students to their office to watch the film and inviting them to their regular > classroom, provided only the invited students are able to see the film (i.e. > the door is closed, and people who aren't in the class aren't admitted). > 2. There's no logical reason why the screening described in (1) couldn't take > place during the class's regularly-schedule meeting time. > 3. Assuming the screenings described above in (1) and (2) are allowable, it > would be silly to require the professor to jump through the hoop of actually > issuing "invitations" to their students, provided, again, that just the > students in the class are able to see the film. > > In all of these cases, the same number of people see the film is identical. > This is why it seems to me that a classroom screening is more similar to a > "private viewing for you and your invitees" than a "public presentation." > > Andy > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Bob Norris wrote: > Well, using the I'm not a lawyer just thinking logically approach, a > professor and the students seems more similar to a public performance than a > private viewing. Profs may have an affinity for their students but the > students are not the prof's friends. It is rare that a prof would invite > students into their home or hotel room, hopefully. However, when you have a > public performance it is often people with something in common that have an > affinity for one another but are not friends. It is not "Personal," which is > the only right Amazon is granting. > > My 2 cents, > Bob > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime
Well, using the I'm not a lawyer just thinking logically approach, a professor and the students seems more similar to a public performance than a private viewing. Profs may have an affinity for their students but the students are not the prof's friends. It is rare that a prof would invite students into their home or hotel room, hopefully. However, when you have a public performance it is often people with something in common that have an affinity for one another but are not friends. It is not "Personal," which is the only right Amazon is granting. My 2 cents, Bob On Oct 15, 2016, at 2:27 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > > 1. Re: Amazon Prime (Dennis Doros) > > From: Dennis Doros > Date: October 14, 2016 6:18:04 PM CDT > To: Video Library questions > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Amazon Prime > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > "which takes place in your private home or apartment or, if outside your > private home or apartment (e.g., in a hotel room, dorm room, office, or > airport waiting lounge) is limited to a private viewing for you and your > invitees." > > does make it seem like a classroom would not be permissible, but I agree it's > ambiguous. > > Best regards, > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & VideoOn Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Andrew Horbal > wrote: > Hi all, > " In my own personal (read: I am not a lawyer, so please do not construe this > as legal advice; if you want legal advice, please consult an attorney!) > opinion, a classroom setting whereby the only people present are the > professor and the students in the class is more similar to a "private viewing > for you and your invitees" (which is allowed by the license) than a "public > presentation" (which is not). > > I will be curious to see who agrees with this interpretation and who > disagrees, and why! > > Andy Horbal > Head of Learning Commons > 1101 McKeldin Library > 7649 Library Ln. > University of Maryland > College Park, MD 20742 > (301) 405-9227 > ahor...@umd.edu > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jodie Borgerding > wrote: > I would be interested in hearing more about this. My initial reaction is that > as long as it is in a classroom setting, fair use would still apply. However, > I don’t feel confident in my fair use/copyright knowledge to make that call. J > > > > Jodie > > > > > > > > Jodie Borgerding, MLS > > Instruction and Liaison Librarian > > Missouri Library Association President > > Webster University Library > > 470 E. Lockwood > > St. Louis, MO 63119 > > (314) 246-7819 > > jborgerdin...@webster.edu > > http://library.webster.edu > > http://molib.org > > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Karsten, Eileen > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 9:44 AM > To: Videolib (videolib@lists.berkeley.edu) > Subject: [Videolib] Amazon Prime > > > > Dear CW, > > > > Has anyone an Amazon Prime Business Account? Have you used it to allow > faculty to view Amazon Video? We have a faculty member who wants us to get > an account so that he can view Transparent for a class. If it is applicable, > he wants to show it to his students. On Amazon, everything related to an > Amazon Prime Business account talks about free shipping and being able to > share that with others in your business. It does not mention Amazon Video, > Amazon Music, etc.Under Amazon Video, the following is stated: > > > > d. License to Digital Content. Subject to payment of any applicable fees to > rent, purchase, or access Digital Content, and your compliance with all terms > of this Agreement, Amazon grants you a personal, non-exclusive, > non-transferable, non-sublicensable, license, during the applicable Viewing > Period, to access, view, use and display the Digital Content in accordance > with the Usage Rules, for Non-Commercial, Private Use. "Non-Commercial, > Private Use" means a presentation of Digital Content for which no fee or > consideration of any kind (other than that which you pay to us to view the > Digital Content) is charged or received, which takes place in your private > home or apartment or, if outside your private home or apartment (e.g., in a > hotel room, dorm room, office, or airport waiting lounge) is limited to a > private viewing for you and your invitees. Non-Commercial, Private Use > specifically excludes any public presentation (e.g., a presentation in a dorm > lounge) and any presentation by a place of public accommodation or other > commercial establishment (e.g., a bar or restaurant), even if no fee is > charged for viewing the Digital Content. To simplify your viewing and > management of Digital Content that has a limited Viewing Period (such as > Rental Digital Content and Subscription Digital Content), we may > automatically remove that Digital Content from your Compatible Device after > the en
Re: [Videolib] circulation policies for DVD/VHS
Hi Lorraine, Speaking from the distributors standpoint, Film Ideas has no problem with you circulating a hard copy. Legally you are probably covered by the first sale doctrine (17 U.S.C. § 109). It is yours to do what you want with it. Now a streaming license, that is another matter. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Sep 23, 2016, at 3:28 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 6:19 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] circulation policies for DVD/VHS > > > > Hello (again), > > > > We are revisiting our circulation policies on DVD/VHS, as it has been MANY > years since they have been updated. We are part of a consortium, OhioLINK, > and we have chosen not to circulate our collection. > > > > Other libraries in state have made other choices and many do circulate. I > think there was/still is a time when some distributors did not want their > films loaned via OhioLINK, although I am not completely sure of the > reasoning. > > > > My goal is to try and find a way to help circulation/acquisitions/cataloging > deal with this in the most efficient way. Perhaps there is a distributor > that does not want us to loan state wide, somehow we have to deal with that > in the cat record. Perhaps we make a blanket rule that all PPR does not > circulate. Not sure how distributors feel about this as well. > > > > I know some of you are in consortiums and I am curious how you deal with > loaning video. Or even if you are not! > > > > Thanks for your help, as always, > > lorraine > > > > lorraine wochna > > African American Studies, English Lit, Performing Arts Librarian > > Alden Library, 2nd floor > > Ohio University > > Athens OH 45701 > > W 740-597-1238 > > CHAT WITH ME: http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/prf.php?account_id=7943 > > MAKE APPT: http://ohiou.libcal.com/appointment/2001 > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Request Help - Need Harpo Productions Intellectual Property Legal Contact
Hi Katie, Harpo shut down 100% in Dec. 2015. A small number of employees relocated to LA and now work for OWN Productions (or maybe it is Programming) located in The Lot in West Hollywood, California. I no longer have a contact there. Good luck. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:29 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Request Help - Need Harpo Productions Intellectual Property > Legal Contact (Katie Aldrich) > > From: Katie Aldrich > Date: September 16, 2016 2:14:12 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] Request Help - Need Harpo Productions Intellectual > Property Legal Contact > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Greetings! > > The Dr. Phil show used to offer VHS tapings of the show for purchase if you > called 1-866-437-7445. This service is no longer offered. > > Long ago, we acquired a taping of the show "How You Look Drunk" (aired > 11-5-2004). The copyright belongs to Harpo Productions Inc. We would like > to request streaming & closed captioning rights for this video, but I'm > having difficulty finding any contact information. The studio in Chicago is > no more. The general phone number (312-633-1000) has a "full voicemail box" > and doesn't appear to be actively used. (I did leave a message.) The Oprah > website didn't provide any leads, nor the Dr. Phil site. > > Does anyone have current information on Harpo Inc? > > I appreciate any leads! > > Katie Aldrich > Library Services Assistant - Purchasing > Northcentral Technical College > Library Mail Stop WG | 1000 W. Campus Drive, Wausau, WI 54401 > Ph 715.803.1055 | Email: aldr...@ntc.edu | Website: www.ntc.edu/library > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 103, Issue 12
Gosh darn it, why did they have to go build that shiny new state-of-the-art building and a year later lay off so many people? What is more important? Thanks for the biz over the years. Best of luck. Let us know where you end up. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Jun 21, 2016, at 2:38 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Tatar, Becky" > Date: June 21, 2016 10:11:29 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Sad news > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hello, all, > > I am sad to report that as of August 19, I'm being laid off after 34 ½ years > at the Aurora Public Library, due to declining revenues and elimination of my > job. I am one of 21 such cuts, 11 full time and 10 part time. I hope to > continue to follow this list while I'm unemployed, and when I find a new job. > I just want to say thank you to all of you. I have learned so much from > everyone on this list now, and in the past. I tell everyone about my friends > on this list, even though I may have met only a few of you in person when ALA > happened to be in Chicago. So, and here's a shameless plug, if anyone knows > of any reference librarian openings in the western suburbs of Chicago. . . or > a similar type of job in a non library setting - I'm your girl! > > Becky Tatar > Periodicals/Audiovisuals > Aurora Public Library > 101 S. River Street > Aurora, IL 60506 > Phone: 630-264-4116 > FAX: 630-896-3209 > blt...@aurorapubliclibrary.org > www.aurorapubliclibrary.org > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Kevin Smith on the new GSU ruling
Thanks for the lengthy, considered response Sarah. No, I do not think you are naive. Most librarians do consider copyright and do the right thing. Unfortunately what the right thing is, is not always clear. Which makes your job more challenging. Some would say more fun. ; ) On Apr 5, 2016, at 4:46 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Sarah E. McCleskey" > Date: April 5, 2016 4:46:52 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Kevin Smith on the new GSU ruling > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi Bob, > > The thing is, it’s hard to take that ruling and apply it in a useful and > practical way. The judge interpreted the 4th factor (market effect) using > exceedingly specific information about each title, information only made > available by the publishers during the discovery process. She did not use > information that a regular person would have access to. So it’s kind of a > weird ruling for us in the trenches. Also, it’s very specifically geared to > mirror copying of print excerpts. > > Also, maybe I’m being naïve here, but I feel like librarians who are > acquiring streaming content generally have respect for content providers and > want to use content responsibly. Of course, different librarians have > different interpretations of what is “responsible” but speaking for myself, I > value my relationships with video content providers and I want you all to > keep producing that content and making it available in easy to use platforms. > > Imho, the more vendors make licenses readily available and affordable for > streaming content, the more likely that users will pay for licensing. And so > many (honestly, most!) of you vendors have indeed made it super easy to > acquire or access your content (frequently in my case, via a PDA package) in > streaming format. We all have different acquisition models based on our > institutional mission and curricular needs, and over the past 10 years you > vendors have really worked hard to provide flexible licensing options to meet > those different needs. > > I honestly can’t see why anyone would go to the trouble to digitize and host > “secret” streaming content for provision to students in one online course, as > long as it’s relatively easy and not too expensive to get a license and make > the content widely available for your users. Just the costs involved with > ripping, uploading, having a server that can handle that stuff, legwork > running DVDs over to another building on campus for the upload … and then > when the professor wants to use that same content again next year or > whatever, they most likely do not have an easy way to go back and find that > content, because it has no metadata and is just stored as a file name on a > server somewhere on campus. > > Now, the stuff Maureen was looking for seemed a bit tricky, but I think > people had some very good suggestions for places to look for streaming short > films. I suggested YouTube, and certainly there’s a lot of illegal stuff on > there, but there also is often content put up by the filmmaker because they > *want* people to see their work! Barb suggested indieflix, which is dirt > cheap, and Netflix, Amazon, Vimeo, Hulu, etc. are all expanding (and of > course losing sometimes) content, all the time. It’s not unreasonable, in my > opinion, to ask students to subscribe to a few pay per view services, or to > pay for a one-time streaming rental if you can’t afford a license, or if a > license isn’t readily available. It’s a cost of education and certainly less > expensive than most textbooks. > > I stand by my earlier statement that if you cannot find the content legally > online, and cannot locate the rightsholder after a really thorough search > (WorldCat, ImdbPro, Variety, Facebook (for filmmaker), LinkedIn, google > search (for director's name, producer's name, and/or distributor) ... if all > those come up blank, you could consider whether it might be fair use to > stream the content, accessible only to the members of the class for the > duration of the class. > > My .02 … > > Sarah VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Kevin Smith on the new GSU ruling
Where is the firestorm? I guess no response means librarians agree with the ruling. As an educational producer, the fact that there was no transformative use is scary. However, the fact the judge put added wait on the affect on market value and GSU only used excerpts is a little reassuring. If a judge found streaming a whole educational program was fair, I think it would be the beginning of the end of our industry. Ironically the next post by Maureen questions if a whole short film can be digitized and put online. You know where I stand on the issue. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Apr 5, 2016, at 9:45 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: April 4, 2016 8:15:41 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Kevin Smith on the new GSU ruling > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hate to bring this up since it always launched a firestorm of discussion on > this list. > > But Kevin Smith from Duke University provides his detailed commentary of the > new ruling in the Georgia State University e-reserves case here: > > http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/2016/04/01/fgo-latest-gsuruling-odd-victory-libraries/ > > "Now, using the new fair use analysis directed by the Court of > Appeals, Judge Evans has handed the publishers yet another loss.” > > > deg farrelly > Media Librarian > Arizona State University > deg.farre...@asu.edu > 602.332.3103 > > > > From: Maureen Tripp > Date: April 5, 2016 8:24:42 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] using short films for an online class > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > A faculty member will be teaching an online class on the short film, and > wants to use (obviously) a bunch of short films as part of the class. > Meaning she wants to post them online. > We have many of the films as part of DVD collections we've purchased--for > example, Academy Award Nomanated Short Films, or Best of Resfest. > It's my understanding that these films are complete works, and therefore > can't be used in their entirety online. > But it's proving very difficult to find out who owns the rights to all these > films--is there any possibility that I'm wrong, and that, as portions of a > collection, a case could be made that using them online is like using parts > of a complete work? > help me, collective wisdom . . . > Maureen VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 100, Issue 6
Hi Laura and other copyright aficionados, I have two questions, the first general and the second related to MOOCs. 1. Is it considered transformative for a professor to use a clip from an educational DVD, one sold primarily to educational institutions, in an online platform when the clip essentially just reinforces what is being taught? The class would not necessarily be discussing the clip itself. The question could also arise about the affect on market potential but I'm just trying to learn what is considered a transformative use as it relates specifically to educational media. 2. If a DVD is purchased from a distributor that only has rights to sell in the US, then a clip from it is placed on a MOOC and made available to the world, are the rights of the copyright holder violated? Thanks for any insight you can provide. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > From: "Laura Jenemann" > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 4:01:56 PM > Subject: [Videolib] Fair Use, MOOCs, and the Digital Millennium Copyright > Act: Frequently Asked Questions > > FYI: > > > > New post from Brandon Butler at American University’s Glushko-Samuelson > Intellectual Property Law Clinic: > > > > "Fair Use, MOOCs, and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act: Frequently Asked > Questions” > > > > "In October 2015 the Librarian of Congress issued an important new rule > permitting faculty and staff creating MOOCs (massive open online courses) to > copy short clips from video media protected by digital locks. The rule was > the result of a petition brought by clinic students Mark Patrick and Sarah > O’Connor…..To help MOOC faculty and staff understand and apply the new rule, > Peter Decherney and I have prepared a short FAQ.” > > > > http://ipclinic.org/2016/01/22/fair-use-moocs-and-the-digital-millennium-copyright-act-frequently-asked-questions/ > > > > The PDF is at the bottom of the page. > > > > Regards, > > Laura > > > > Laura Jenemann > > Media Services/Film Studies Librarian > > George Mason University Libraries > > Email: ljene...@gmu.edu > > Phone: 703-993-7593 > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Contact for Classroom Video (au)
Hi Katie, Classroom Video and its parent company, VEA, threw in the towel. Clickview in AU may be able to help. They took over VEA's streaming I believe. Have a fine weekend, Bob > > From: Katie Aldrich/Northcentral Technical College > Date: January 15, 2016 2:09:19 PM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] Contact for Classroom Video (au) > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Greetings! > > We are trying to contact the company Classroom Video regarding streaming > rights. I've been able to locate a consistent address, but all > email/phone/websites have been dead-ends. Does anyone have current contact > information for this company? > > > > Thanks for your help! > > Katie Aldrich > Library Services Assistant - Purchasing > Northcentral Technical College | 1000 W. Campus Drive, Wausau, WI 54401 > Ph 715.803.1055 | Mail Stop: WG | Email: aldr...@ntc.edu | Website: > www.ntc.edu/library > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] PPR Question for librarians/library staff
Hi Laura, Another option to using a DVD is to use a hard wired ethernet connection and skip the wireless. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:46 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Laura Jenemann > Date: December 7, 2015 9:48:32 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] PPR Question for librarians/library staff > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hello, > > For those of you who are librarians/library staff, how would you address this > conundrum? > > You have PPR for a streaming film However, the place where the film is being > screened has a poor wireless connection. > > Please feel free to contact me offline. There, I can be more explicit about > what I believe that options are. > > Regards, > Laura > > Laura Jenemann > Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian > George Mason University > 703-993-7593 > ljene...@gmu.edu > > > > > From: Laura Jenemann > Date: December 7, 2015 10:03:50 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR Question for librarians/library staff > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I forgot to mention that this is for a public screening outside of class. > That’s why it’s a conundrum for me. > > Laura Jenemann > Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian > George Mason University > 703-993-7593 > ljene...@gmu.edu > > From: Carla Myers > Date: December 7, 2015 11:49:38 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] PPR Question for librarians/library staff > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi, Laura > First you’ll want to take a look at the terms of the PPR license provided by > the distributor. While some PPR license terms are quite broad others dictate > where the screening can be held (e.g. on-campus only), the maximum number of > people who can attend, and even the ways in which you can advertise the > screening. You’ll want to abide by the terms outlined in the license, and if > any are ambiguous I encourage you to contact the distributor for > clarification. > > Regarding the wireless problem, I would encourage you to contact the > distributor, explain the situation, and see if they can provide you with a > DVD copy of the film to use just for this screening. You may ask you to pay > for shipping both ways, but this cost may be worth it if the alternative is > having a film screening where the film is constantly buffering or getting > cut-off due to a poor wireless connection. > > Also, keep in mind that generally PPR are not needed for in-class screenings > as these are often covered under section 110(1) of U.S. Copyright Law > (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/110). Kevin Smith (Director of > the Office of Copyright and Scholarly Communication at Duke University) > recently published a great blog post that addresses this issue as well as > other common misconceptions regarding the borrowing and lending of DVD’s for > classroom use: http://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/. > > I hope this information helps! > > Best, > Carla Myers > > Assistant Professor > Campus Copyright Specialist > Faculty Director of Access Services and Scholarly Communications > Kraemer Family Library > The University of Colorado at Colorado Springs VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 95, Issue 29
Is agreeing to the Terms of Use the same as a license? If so, then I guess the Face to Face exemption would not apply in general. In this particular instance WGBH could chime in as to their intent. > > From: "Moshiri, Farhad" > Date: October 28, 2015 2:22:41 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] American Archive of Public Broadcasting Launches > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Thanks Bob. The problem is I’ve heard that using a personal home video in > face-to-face classroom (purchased from Amazon or borrowed from Red Box, for > example) falls into First Sale Doctrine. But using a database whether or not > it is free or with subscription, falls under license agreement and the terms > of use. > > Farhad > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 2:10 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] American Archive of Public Broadcasting Launches > > Just using logic, not law, since the Face to Face exemption allows you to use > a personal home video in the classroom when the teacher is present, then it > seems a streaming sight that allows personal access to all could be used in > the classroom too. It would not infer PPR. That is my guess. > Bob > > Robert A. Norris > Managing Director > Film Ideas, Inc. > Phone: (847) 419-0255 > Email: b...@filmideas.com > Web:www.filmideas.com > > > From: "Moshiri, Farhad" > Date: October 28, 2015 1:13:40 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] American Archive of Public Broadcasting Launches With > 7, 000 Programs Available to Stream Online > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > > A copyright question: When I looked at terms of use, they say this site is > for personal, non-commercial use. I’ve seen this statement in most sites. > What they don’t say is can the site be used in non-profit educational > institutions, in classrooms, etc.? The “personal” always make you think > you’re not allowed to use it in class. Any idea? VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] American Archive of Public Broadcasting Launches
Just using logic, not law, since the Face to Face exemption allows you to use a personal home video in the classroom when the teacher is present, then it seems a streaming sight that allows personal access to all could be used in the classroom too. It would not infer PPR. That is my guess. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > From: "Moshiri, Farhad" > Date: October 28, 2015 1:13:40 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] American Archive of Public Broadcasting Launches With > 7, 000 Programs Available to Stream Online > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > A copyright question: When I looked at terms of use, they say this site is > for personal, non-commercial use. I’ve seen this statement in most sites. > What they don’t say is can the site be used in non-profit educational > institutions, in classrooms, etc.? The “personal” always make you think > you’re not allowed to use it in class. Any idea? > > > Farhad Moshiri, MLS > Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate > Audiovisual Librarian > Subject areas: Music, Dance, Copyright issues, > Middle Eastern Studies > University of the Incarnate Word > J.E. & L.E. Mabee Library > 4301 Broadway – CPO 297 > San Antonio, TX 78209 > (210) 829-3842 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
Interesting concept to base price on budget. If that was the case, someone with a green visor may come into your office saying we are going to cut your budget so we can get the same for less. If everyone sends me their budget, I could flush out the concept more J Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:40 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: preferred streaming service (Threatt, Monique Louise) > 2. black and white 16 mm , etc (fellin...@aol.com) > > From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" > Date: October 23, 2015 1:28:54 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Cc: "m...@shashwati.com" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Well said, Susan. > > Best, > Mo > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:47 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Cc: m...@shashwati.com > Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service > > Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media > Market. (Hint: If you don’t go, YOU SHOULD!!) > > While I’m one of those who feels the need to mention our school’s small size > (925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest > potential usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration. > And while I would continue to “argue” that large universities can more > readily manage to build collections and provide access than can small > schools, it is because of the size of the acquisition budget more than > because of FTE. (I mean, let’s face it, if we each preview and desire the > same 95 films from Market, a budget in excess of $100K is going to be able to > manage that much better than a budget of $20K!) But I have begun to see the > benefit of what Monique suggests in basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, > rather than on FTE, since FTE isn’t *necessarily* directly proportional to > budget. > > Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger > than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial > discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly > differently-sized populations and budgets. Another argument, imo, for a > budget-based setup. > > Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, > rather than on classification. :) > > To more directly answer the original question: our first foray into streamed > video services were Swank’s Digital Campus and several Media Education > Foundation titles through Kanopy. We have since begun a (modest) step into > the Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our > campus, and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand’s collection. > Beyond this, we simply can’t commit to streaming service, as any commitment > to that format means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition. > > Susan Albrecht > Library Media Acquisitions Manager > Graduate Fellowship Advisor > Wabash College Lilly Library > 765-361-6216 (acquisitions) > 765-361-6297 (fellowships) > 765-361-6295 fax > albre...@wabash.edu > www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films > http://pinterest.com/wabashcolllib/ > > *** > "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." --Neil Peart > *** > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Threatt, Monique > Louise > Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:23 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Cc: m...@shashwati.com > Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service > > Hello, > > I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments. > > My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned > below. > > My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can > then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using > either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice. > > I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate > in future co
Re: [Videolib] Cadillac Desert
The series is listed under Columbia TriStar Television and PBS Home Video. This Ebay link popped up second in the search: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331593533047?lpid=82&chn=ps Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > > > From: "Clifford, Tom" > Date: July 20, 2015 1:59:47 PM CDT > To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" > Subject: [Videolib] Cadillac Desert > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Does anyone know if/where the four-part documentary Cadillac Desert is > available on DVD or streaming? > > Tom Clifford > Sr. Library Assistant > Art & Music Library > Rm. G122 Rush Rhees Library > University of Rochester > (585) 275-3921 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Streaming storage question
Hi Lisa, That is an open ended questions. I just sent out a 25 minute Ultra High Def file for broadcast that was 92 GB. The same program at low res not intended for a big screen could be 100 MB. The primary factors affecting file size are program length, file resolution, streaming bit rate and codec used. A 1.5 Mbps streaming rate is a fairly common request for us. So assuming you had a 30 minute program, with a 1,280 x 720 resolution, encoded at 1.5 Mbps using the mp4 coded you would have roughly a 375 MB file. Hope that gives you some perspective. Feel free to get in touch if you have more questions. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On May 11, 2015, at 2:59 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: "Hooper, Lisa K" > Date: May 11, 2015 12:05:48 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Streaming storage question > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Greetings everyone, > > For those of you that have begun purchasing life of file for streaming video > – what is the average storage need per file? > > Thanks! > -lisa > > Music & Media Librarian > Howard-Tilton Memorial Library > Tulane University > 504.314.7822 > www.facebook.com/TulaneMusicAndMediaCenter > http://musicmediacentertulane.tumblr.com/ > http://bamboulanola.tumblr.com/ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Video-on-Demand Children’s TV Programming Now Accessible
Thanks for the heads up Cathy, DCMP included one of Film Ideas series. I'll send them a letter of thanks for including us with such good company. Regards, Bob > > From: Cathy Michael > Date: March 17, 2015 9:09:32 AM CDT > To: "Educ. & Behavior Science ALA Discussion List" > , uniacc...@lists.ala.org, > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] Fwd: Video-on-Demand Children’s TV Programming Now > Accessible for Thousands of Students with Visual or Hearing Disabilities | > U.S. Department of Education > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Good morning: > > Was just reading this press release and thought I'd pass it along: > > The U.S. Department of Education today announced the availability of free, > video-on-demand children’s television programming for thousands of students > who are blind, visually impaired, deaf or hard of hearing. > http://www.ed.gov/news/press-releases/video-demand-children%E2%80%99s-tv-programming-now-accessible-thousands-students-visual-or-hearing-disabilities > > Best, > > Cathy > > > > From: Jo Ann Reynolds > Date: March 17, 2015 9:10:29 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > It is, indeed, a very interesting question since different vendors count > views or engagement differently. I was recently looking closely at > views/engagement for some streams from different vendors for a course and > comparing vendor data with data from Ares. The Ares data shows user id by > date/time. When you look at this level of granularity you see multiple hits > by the same user within very short periods of time, sometimes 10 hits or more > in a minute. Clearly they are not watching a full film in that short space of > time nor are they gaining a meaningful browse or “engagement”. This type of > data must be taken with a grain of salt. Someone should be able to devise an > algorithm based on data (patron behavior, hit length, and computer issues) > that could be applied to the hit data to provide a more realistic picture of > what patrons are actually watching. > > Engagement, depending on how it is defined by the vendor, is probably a > better measure but still requires some framing. For me, engagement would have > to be at least 15% or more of the total run time. Certainly not a hit of 30 > seconds or less, even a couple of minutes for a two hour films is > questionable. And, if, over time, a film never shows that it is watched in > its entirety, should we be paying full price or purchasing access to the > desired clip? Or, dare I say it?, claiming fair use instead. > > We need to ask vendors pointed questions about the data they are supplying > us. Vendors need to be very transparent about that data collection and > presentation process in order to avoid being labeled as the fox guarding the > henhouse . > > What data are you counting? Hits to a url or some percentage of the total > film length a user spent with a film (engagement)? > If its number of minutes watched, what percentage of the total films did > those minute comprise? > How do you define engagement? > How many different users engaged? > What was the date range of the engagement/hits? > What was the last date of engagement/hits? > Were the hits/engagement all for the same portion of the film (clips vs. > watching a film)? > > Streams are expensive and I am sure we are not the only library to be taking > budget hits. We need to be sure we are paying for streams our patrons are > actually watching and not just browsing or pinging on trying to get them to > load, or some other computer issue that is clouding patron use. > > I would advocate for a different model altogether, purchase of streams > outright for a reasonable price the way we purchased VHS, then DVD. Actual > ownership of the format until it changes to a new format. Then all this > counting could be amortized over a much longer period of time, the enormous > and expensive investment libraries make in purchasing licenses, tracking > licenses, and renewing licenses could be better spent on other activities. > And perhaps we would have the time to devise an automated way to track patron > viewing behavior that would provide us with meaningful and reliable data on > which to base purchase decisions. > > Jo Ann > > Jo Ann Reynolds > Reserve Services Coordinator > University of Connecticut > Homer Babbidge Library > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > 860-486-1406 voice > 860-486-0584 fax > > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah E. McCleskey > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:34 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for annual data on video circulation in > academic libraries > > I think Jonathan asks a very inte
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 87, Issue 12
This reads like an Oscar acceptance speech. Congrats Dennis. Bob > > From: Dennis Doros > Date: February 20, 2015 4:23:34 PM CST > To: Video Library questions > Subject: Re: [Videolib] In the Land of the Headhunters > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Thank you, deg! We've had extraordinary press this past two weeks for our > films so we're feeling very grateful. :-) > > In the case with IN THE LAND OF THE HEAD HUNTERS, we were very lucky to work > with UCLA Film & Television Archives, the Field Museum of Natural History, > the Getty Museum and Library, the U'Mista Cultural Center, University of > Washington Press, Rutgers University, the Turning Point Ensemble Orchestra, > the Gwa'wina Dancers, Professors Bill Holm, Aaron Glass and Brad Evans, > Modern Videofilm, Luminous 7, OEM, and most importantly, the Kwakwaka'wakw > (say that three times fast) tribe members. It's amazing how many people can > fit onto 20 cents of plastic! > > > Best regards, > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & Video > PO Box 128 / Harrington Park, NJ 07640 > Phone: 201-767-3117 / Fax: 201-767-3035 / Email: milefi...@gmail.com > > Visit our main website! www.milestonefilms.com > Visit our new websites! www.mspresents.com, www.portraitofjason.com, > www.shirleyclarkefilms.com, > To see or download our 2014 Video Catalog, click here! > > Support "Milestone Film" on Facebook and Twitter! > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote: > A nice article about Milestone Film's digitally remastered release of the > restored version of Curtis' documentary in today's NYTimes > > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/movies/homevideo/in-the-land-of-the-head-hunters-a-recreated-artifact-of-ancient-ways.html?emc=edit_fm_20150220&nl=movies&nlid=69257852&_r=0 > > Nicely done Dennis! > > -deg farrelly > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] TMW Media Group
For you, I'm guessing TMW will included PPR. If you want to double check, Leslie Collins should be able to tell you, lcoll...@tmwmedia.com, 424-238-2607. On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:00 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. TMW Media Group (Montri, Tracy) > > From: "Montri, Tracy" > Date: February 4, 2015 10:51:12 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] TMW Media Group > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi all – > > Can anyone confirm if TMW Media Group sells DVDs with PPR for public > libraries in their general price. Their site is a bit ambiguous. If so, any > restrictions? > > Thank you in advance! > Tracy > > Tracy Montri > Manager, Audiovisual Department > Acting Manager, Popular Library/Teen Department > Toledo-Lucas County Public Library > 325 Michigan > Toledo, Ohio 43604 > 419-259-5229 > tracy.mon...@toledolibrary.org > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] audio descriptions
I would guess not many educational videos are audio described because of the added cost. It is not a simple thing to do as you do not want the audio descriptions to conflict with the regular audio. Film Ideas uses Described and Captioned Media Program. They do an excellent job. http://dcmp.org Let me know if you have any other questions. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Jan 5, 2015, at 2:57 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. audio descriptions (Steinhoff, Cindy) > > From: "Steinhoff, Cindy" > Date: January 5, 2015 9:44:56 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] audio descriptions > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Good morning > > The office in student services that handles requests from students for > accommodations is looking into the use of audio descriptions on commercially > produced DVDs and is seeking assistance from the library. I read about this > topic at the Audio Descriptions Project web site at > http://www.acb.org/adp/index.html , and it seems as though it is hit or miss, > even with feature films. Is anyone familiar with the use of audio > descriptions in educational video? > > The request for information from this office was prompted by an inquiry from > a faculty member who will have a blind student one of his classes for the > first time this year. The faculty member uses many films and is working with > student services on accommodations for this student. > > Thanks for any help that you can provide! > > Happy New Year, > > Cindy Steinhoff > Anne Arundel Community College > Arnold, MD > > > The information contained in this email may be confidential and/or legally > privileged. It has been sent for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). > If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, > distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its content, is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please > contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original > message. Thank you. > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Video Production Funding
You hit on two frequent funding scenarios Judy. When Film Ideas produces its own titles we often look to the curriculum standards and fit within the classroom, especially if K-12 is the primary market. Costs vary significantly depending on the type of production, existence of stock footage, travel, etc. We then compare estimated costs against sales potential and decide if we want to take the gamble that we can recoup costs and hopefully make a decent profit. Individuals do produce docs to get the word out or to get a production under their belt not knowing if they can make any money. However, they certainly would like to. Satisfaction does not pay the bills. Another market can pay for or partially pay for the cost of a production. For us that is often educational television. For others it may be a theatrical release. Typically the profit is made on the backend though. There are consultants but we do not work with any. Typically they come from some aspect of the industry and are looking to capitalize on their expertise. Because of our name we are contacted regularly to grace us with their film ideas. 99.9% of the time we politely decline. There are plenty of other scenarios I'm sure but time does not permit. Regards, Bob On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:18 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 3. Re: videolib Digest, Vol 83, Issue 32 (Shoaf,Judith P) > > From: "Shoaf,Judith P" > Date: October 22, 2014 11:18:37 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 83, Issue 32 > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Bob, I would be interested in the video production perspective. > What is the model for funding an educational film? Does someone way “A film > on this topic would be valuable for classes at x level” and contact possible > producer/director teams? Or does someone say “A movie on this topic needs to > be made, because people need to know about it,” spend whatever he/she and > his/her friends & family can spare to film and edit the story on spec, and > then offer it to possible vendors? Are there committees and consultants or > advisors, and if so where do they come from? > > I’m really curious. > > Judy Shoaf > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:17 AM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 83, Issue 32 > > Thanks Judy, > > Good to get the book publisher perspective. I was applying the GA ruling to > the impact on video distributors as we share the same market as the > plaintiffs. But as you point out the economic model and how the works are > made available are different. To date, 100% of our titles received no > subsidies or monetary rewards. > > Does anyone want to weigh in from a video perspective? > > Regards, > Bob > > On Oct 22, 2014, at 8:41 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 2. Re: another summary of Georgia State appeal (Shoaf,Judith P) > > From: "Shoaf,Judith P" > Date: October 22, 2014 8:40:52 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] another summary of Georgia State appeal > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > > I was reading your analysis and feeling very confused until I remembered that > this is a list for VIDEO. > > For academic books (which the Georgia State case addresses), your comment is > just not true: “So doesn't it stand to reason that when considering fair use > for a work sold primarily to the education market, the economic impact should > be weighted more? That is what made the work available in the first place.” > > What makes academic books available is not the system of publishers and > presses, but rather the fact that writing such books is (a) subsidized by > universities and grants made to the writers, and (b) rewarded when the > writers get promotion for having published. So in fact the license to allow > students to read the work in question is the THIRD time the academic system > has paid for it. Professors almost never see any money from academic books of > the kind in question (unless it is actually a textbook which students can be > asked to buy). The publishing institutions make money, yes, but the work of > creating and often of editing is done for them for free by people who are > supported by their academic institutions because they do this kind of work. > (My husband has just finished editing, typesetting, indexing, and > proofreading a book he wrote, which will be published by a press whose sole > contribution will be to tell him h
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 83, Issue 32
Thanks Judy, Good to get the book publisher perspective. I was applying the GA ruling to the impact on video distributors as we share the same market as the plaintiffs. But as you point out the economic model and how the works are made available are different. To date, 100% of our titles received no subsidies or monetary rewards. Does anyone want to weigh in from a video perspective? Regards, Bob On Oct 22, 2014, at 8:41 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 2. Re: another summary of Georgia State appeal (Shoaf,Judith P) > > From: "Shoaf,Judith P" > Date: October 22, 2014 8:40:52 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] another summary of Georgia State appeal > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I was reading your analysis and feeling very confused until I remembered that > this is a list for VIDEO. > > For academic books (which the Georgia State case addresses), your comment is > just not true: “So doesn't it stand to reason that when considering fair use > for a work sold primarily to the education market, the economic impact should > be weighted more? That is what made the work available in the first place.” > > What makes academic books available is not the system of publishers and > presses, but rather the fact that writing such books is (a) subsidized by > universities and grants made to the writers, and (b) rewarded when the > writers get promotion for having published. So in fact the license to allow > students to read the work in question is the THIRD time the academic system > has paid for it. Professors almost never see any money from academic books of > the kind in question (unless it is actually a textbook which students can be > asked to buy). The publishing institutions make money, yes, but the work of > creating and often of editing is done for them for free by people who are > supported by their academic institutions because they do this kind of work. > (My husband has just finished editing, typesetting, indexing, and > proofreading a book he wrote, which will be published by a press whose sole > contribution will be to tell him how to format it and to advertise it, > primarily by supplying copies to reviewers who will write up discussions of > it without of course being paid. And of course the press will sell copies of > it, and keep any profit. My husband did however get a “merit” raise this > year.) > > I think the question may be whether the publishing industry is needed as a > means of routing academic work from academe to academe; since it depends for > its fodder 100% on the personnel of academic institutions, it needs to be > circumspect in challenging the need of the institutions to use its products. > > I gather that the situation is different for educational video, where the > filmmakers apparently actually get some royalties from their products, and > may be working independently of the academy. > > Judy Shoaf > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 9:45 AM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] another summary of Georgia State appeal > > Thanks Jo Anne. Ms Sims summary is really quite thorough and interesting how > it is organized, especially in light of the fact it was written on a Friday > night for a blog. > > There is one short statement that stood out from my standpoint as a producer > and distributor of material primarily, and often exclusively, sold to > education. It is an opinion that worries me more and more as the technology > becomes common place that allows for the easy and inexpensive dissemination > of educational material not just to the traditional four walled classroom but > to the proverbial global classroom. As curators of programs from many > distributors similar to Film Ideas I'm wondering how you videolibbers feel > about the following. (I've bolded statements from the court's opinion to try > and make these excerpts of Nancy's opinion, mine and the courts clearer.) > > Nancy states: "The idea that creator remuneration is -secondary- to the > actual purpose of copyright law is often left out of a lot of related public > discourse. But this opinion affirms again that "[p]romoting the creation and > dissemination of ideas has been the goal"" > > This ignores the statement in the court's opinion that: As the Supreme Court > has explained, “the economic philosophy behind the clause empowering Congress > to grant copyrights is the conviction that encouragement of individual effort > by personal gain
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 83, Issue 28
Did they clear all the reading material such as William Fisher, Promises to Keep: Technology, Law and the Future of Entertainment (2004), Chapter 6 ? On Oct 21, 2014, at 1:31 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > 3. FW: Copyright Course (Dylan?McGinty) > > > From: Dylan McGinty > Date: October 21, 2014 1:31:22 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] FW: Copyright Course > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Posted on behalf of Claudia Hill, former Art and Architecture Cataloguer > at Columbia University > > Hello, > > We’re excited to be offering CopyrightX again in 2015. > > CopyrightX will run for twelve weeks; it will begin on January 26. The > application process for the online sections opens on October 15 and closes on > December 15. > > Please see the announcement below for further information; feel free to share > it widely with your networks and to retweet the Berkman Center. You are > welcome to share the announcement widely in channels that might reach > potential students. We’d be grateful for your help in spreading the word. > > Best, > > The CopyrightX Team > > *** > The application for the CopyrightX online sections will run from Oct. 15 - > Dec. 15. See CopyrightX:Sections for details. > > CopyrightX is a networked course that explores the current law of copyright; > the impact of that law on art, entertainment, and industry; and the ongoing > debates concerning how the law should be reformed. Through a combination of > recorded lectures, assigned readings, weekly seminars, live interactive > webcasts, and online discussions, participants in the course examine and > assess the ways in which the copyright system seeks to stimulate and regulate > creative expression. > > In 2013, HarvardX, Harvard Law School, and the Berkman Center for Internet & > Society launched an experiment in distance education- CopyrightX, the first > free and open distance learning course on law. After two successful > offerings, CopyrightX is an experiment no longer. Under the leadership of > Professor William Fisher, who created and directs the course, CopyrightX will > be offered for a third time from January to May 2015. > > Three types of courses make up the CopyrightX Community: > > a residential course on Copyright Law, taught by Prof. Fisher to > approximately 100 Harvard Law School students; > an online course divided into sections of 25 students, each section taught by > a Harvard Teaching Fellow; > a set of affiliated courses based in countries other than the United States, > each taught by an expert in copyright law. > > Participation in the online sections is free and is open to anyone at least > 13 years of age, but enrollment is limited. Admission to the online sections > will be administered through an open application process that opens on > October 15 and closes on December 15. We welcome applicants from all > countries, lawyers and non-lawyers alike. For details, see > CopyrightX:Sections. (The criteria for admission to each of the affiliated > courses are set by the course's instructor. Students who will enroll in the > affiliated courses may not apply to the online sections.) > > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] another summary of Georgia State appeal
Thanks Jo Anne. Ms Sims summary is really quite thorough and interesting how it is organized, especially in light of the fact it was written on a Friday night for a blog. There is one short statement that stood out from my standpoint as a producer and distributor of material primarily, and often exclusively, sold to education. It is an opinion that worries me more and more as the technology becomes common place that allows for the easy and inexpensive dissemination of educational material not just to the traditional four walled classroom but to the proverbial global classroom. As curators of programs from many distributors similar to Film Ideas I'm wondering how you videolibbers feel about the following. (I've bolded statements from the court's opinion to try and make these excerpts of Nancy's opinion, mine and the courts clearer.) Nancy states: "The idea that creator remuneration is -secondary- to the actual purpose of copyright law is often left out of a lot of related public discourse. But this opinion affirms again that "[p]romoting the creation and dissemination of ideas has been the goal"" This ignores the statement in the court's opinion that: As the Supreme Court has explained, “the economic philosophy behind the clause empowering Congress to grant copyrights is the conviction that encouragement of individual effort by personal gain is the best way to advance public welfare [by promoting the creation and dissemination of ideas] through the talents of authors. . . .” So remuneration is not secondary, it is integral. The opinion goes on to state that you cannot treat the 4 factors of fair use with equal weighting. You have to consider a case by case basis. So doesn't is stand to reason that when considering fair use for a work sold primarily to the education market, the economic impact should be weighted more? That is what made the work available in the first place. Perhaps more importantly the opinion states: Nevertheless, “it is sensible that a particular unauthorized use should be considered ‘more fair’ when there is no ready market or means to pay for the use, while such an unauthorized use should be considered ‘less fair’ when there is a ready market or means to pay for the use. The vice of circular reasoning arises only if the availability of payment is conclusive against fair use.” Id.at 931. Put simply, absent evidence to the contrary, if a copyright holder has not made a license available to use a particular workin a particular manner, the inference is that the author or publisher did not think that there would be enough such use to bother making a license available. In such a case, there is little damage to the publisher’s market when someone makes use of the work in that way without obtaining a license, and hence the fourth factor should generally weigh in favor of fair use.So it must be 'lesser' fair when the primary market, not just a ready market, is education. And least fair when the copyright holder sells licenses to the program to the education market, which license includes the segments already broken out. Let's be honest. Professors no longer want to show the whole program to a class. They want the nuggets. And if they can get the nuggets for free and don't buy the program the producer loses economically. As streaming of short segments becomes the norm, I don't see how you cannot say there is material effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. In court speak- hence the fourth factor should generally NOT weigh in favor of fair use under these cicumstances. Do I have blinders on because I'm focused on making money? What say you who are paid to promote the creation and dissemination of ideas? Sincerely, Bob On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:59 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Jo Ann Reynolds > Date: October 20, 2014 10:11:41 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] another summary of Georgia State appeal > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > This from Nancy Sims, the Copyright Program Library at the University of > Minnesota Libraries > http://blog.lib.umn.edu/copyrightlibn/2014/10/11th-circuit-gsu-ruling.html > > Interesting case but unless you are in Georgia, Alabama, or Florida don’t > panic yet as the decision is binding only in the 11 Circuit. > > Best, > Jo Ann > > Jo Ann Reynolds > Reserve Services Coordinator > University of Connecticut > Homer Babbidge Library > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > 860-486-1406 voice > 860-486-0584 fax > > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 9:01 AM > To: vi
Re: [Videolib] Georgia State appeal decision is out
Is there a paragraph summary of the 129 pages somewhere? Bob On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:57 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Georgia State appeal decision is out (Sarah E. McCleskey) > > From: "Sarah E. McCleskey" > Date: October 17, 2014 3:33:53 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Georgia State appeal decision is out > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > http://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/201214676.pdf > > > > Sarah E. McCleskey > Head of Access Services, Film and Media > 112 Axinn Library, 123 Hofstra University > Hempstead, NY 11549 > sarah.e.mccles...@hofstra.edu > 516-463-5076 (phone) > 516-463-4309 (fax) > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Question for Vendors
This is really a search engine optimization question. I'm sure the producers would like their titles to show up as well. My first thought was to have the National Media Market maintain a database of its Exhibiting Partner's titles but upon further reflection the list would be so incomplete (little foreign, feature film, etc.) it would not be very effective. Plus you would have trouble getting the EPs to participate as we are overloaded with NMM work as it is. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > From: Jo Ann Reynolds > Date: August 8, 2014 10:21:24 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Question for Vendors > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Finding the distributor of a film can be time consuming. > I have a search pattern I follow depending on the type of film (feature, > documentary, foreign) > The search pattern include a Google search at some point but rarely do vendor > holdings come up in that search. > It would be a great service to us if your holdings were searchable on the web > by title at least if not by subject or keyword. > I don’t know how that happens or what the reasons might be that so many or > not. > But, it sure would save a lot of time on my end. > > Very interested to hear responses. > > Thanks, > Jo Ann VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms?
Well, I'm always happy when a competitors pricing makes Film Ideas pricing look cheap. But putting price aside and just looking at the structure, there are several items that stand out to me. I don't see the benefit of limiting use to the classroom. Although there may be minuscule demand for a student to check the stream out from the library, it should be allowed and encouraged in my opinion. Then there is the technical difficulty of limiting the stream to the classroom, which could be a deal breaker for many schools. From the producer standpoint, I do agree that changing the aspect ratio is an alteration of the film. I would not want an image distorted to fill a 16X9 screen. And charging more for online teaching is logical, especially if the school is going the Georgia State MOOC route. My 2 cents, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: August 7, 2014 6:36:38 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Your reactions to streaming terms? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I know what I have already said (to our licensing agent to pass along to the > filmmaker). But I am curious as to my professional colleagues' take on these > terms to stream an independent self-distributed documentary film. > > I am not interested in launching a discussion on the cost of producing a > documentary film, etc. I put this out only to address the licensing terms. > > > The licensing agreement for the streaming rights are limited to in-class > viewing of the film by the professor teaching the film and their students, or > by faculty who are considering teaching the film in other courses. > > Technical Note: All uploads to the server must be performed in the 4x3 aspect > ratio NOT wide-screen 16x9. Any ratio other than 4x3 will be considered > alteration of the film. > Rates: > > 2-year streaming = $259 for institutions that already have the DVD > $518 for institutions that do not have the DVD, and therefore need a DVD to > perform the secure upload. > > Permanent classroom streaming rights are available at a flat fee of 4x the > institutional DVD rate, which is $1,036. For institutions that already have > the DVD, that is discounted to 3x the institutional rate, which is $777.00. > > Use of the film for online and long-distance teaching requires an additional > $100 fee for the 2-year rate; if permanent classroom streaming rights are > purchased it is a one-time $100 fee. > > > To show my hand, I have recommended that we walk away and not license the > video. > > -deg > > deg farrelly > ShareStream Administrator/Media Librarian > Arizona State University Libraries > Tempe, AZ 85287-1006 > 602.332.3103 > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Forrest Gump anniversary
I heard FG will be in theaters again to celebrate the 20th but nothing about new product. Bob On Jul 9, 2014, at 12:48 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: "Tatar, Becky" > Date: July 8, 2014 4:59:54 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Forrest Gump anniversary > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi, all, > > Does anyone know if Forrest Gump is having, or going to have a 20th > anniversary edition? I checked Amazon, Midwest, Criterion and the Paramount > sites, and nothing new shows up. The most recent release is 2013, but that's > a repackaging of the 2001 2disc release. Thanks! > > Becky Tatar > Periodicals/Audiovisuals > Aurora Public Library > 1 E. Benton Street > Aurora, IL 60505 > Phone: 630-264-4100 > FAX: 630-896-3209 > blt...@aurora.lib.il.us > www.aurorapubliclibrary.org VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Public Domain studio films?
I got curious Kim. I looked up Pointed Heels. As Jessica says, Paramount Pictures Corp is the copyright holder, along with Emka, LTD. Had never heard of Emka. Turns out to be set up with the sole function of overseeing the Pre-1950 Paramount Pictures library. A corporate shell deal. I gave up on Happy Days. Too many to sort through. But infinitesimal percent chance that Fox let the copyright lapse. On Apr 7, 2014, at 5:24 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 1. Re: Public Domain studio films? (Jessica Rosner) > > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: April 7, 2014 3:46:41 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Public Domain studio films? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > These are copyrighted films the rights holder (which in the case of > POINTED HEELS in Universal which ones Paramount films made between > 1028-48) studios have not releases along with I would imagine tens of > thousands of others. The copies you have are bootlegs. I have seen > these titles online and at some of the film buff shows I go to so they > are not unique in any way just pirate copies of films the rights > holder has not released. There are studio films that are PD because > they were not renewed but this is very rare and it is safe to assume > anything made by a "real" studio after 1922 is copyrighted. One can do > copyright searches on titles like this but it is expensive and really > not necessary. The relatively small number of studio films that have > gone PD are generally known and very widely available ( Say SUDDENLY > or THE GENERAL) > In fact many "lost" films like LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT, 4 DEVILS and > whole lot of early sound Fox films are still copyrighted even if they > don't exist. > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Stanton, Kim wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> My library recently received a large donation of early studio films on VHS >> format. The majority were official releases, but I have two hanging out that >> came from one of those rare/vintage mail order video companies. The quality >> is not so hot - they look like low end telecine transfers. I don't know >> the copyright renewal status of either film, so I don't know if these are >> Public Domain or not. I haven't been able to find copies for sale on >> Amazon, with a quick Google search or listed in Worldcat - if these are >> legal PD copies and super rare I'd like to keep them, despite the kind of >> crappy quality. Does anyone have any info on the PD status of these >> particular titles or other resources I could consult? Should I assume that >> most majors studios renewed copyright on all their pre-1968 films or was it >> more case by case than that? >> >> >> >> · Pointed Heels (1929), William Powell, Helen Kane; Paramount >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020278/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 >> >> · Happy Days (1930), Janet Gaynor, Charles Farrell; Fox Film Corp >> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0020949/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_7 >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> Kim >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] streaming internationally
Hi Rhonda, Technically anyone can stream internationally. If the stream is coming from a single server (single location) in the US, the stream is much more subject to Internet congestion and other factors that impact quality than a company who's content is hosted by a CDN (Content Delivery Network) that has the content copied on servers around the world. Typically the shorter the delivery distance the more reliable the signal. So the first question to the vendor is how they are hosting. The second question would be rights. It is quite possible a vendor has worldwide rights either because it is their own production, they negotiated those rights up front or they seek a one off exemption for you. The study abroad question becomes murky as Jessica points out. My humble opinion is if a student is enrolled on a US campus and they want to watch a program in their apartment off campus, their parent's home in another state or in another country they are studying in, it would be legal streamed or if they carried a DVD with them. If a school has a foreign branch and they want to license rights for that foreign branch, then the vendor would have to have international rights. My 2 cent interpretation. Hope that helps, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:08 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Rosen, Rhonda" > Date: February 10, 2014 6:53:31 PM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] streaming internationally > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi all, > So I have a faculty member who is teaching a study abroad class in Germany, > and asked if we could stream videos for him to use there… > Two possible stupid questions, > 1. Do all of you vendors stream internationally – are there possible > bandwith/networking problems anywhere? > 2. Is there any copyright problems if we want to stream films that are > going to be used in Europe? > > Thanks for any help, > rhonda > Rhonda Rosen| Circulation Services Librarian VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot
Hi Laura, I did not respond to your initial query as I wasn't sure what the problem is. Does the professor only need one year streaming rights and you don't want to pay for a multi-year lease? If that is the case and the company is not willing to work with you my recommendation would be to find a comparable film on the topic from a company that is willing to accommodate your request. There are plenty of companies like Film Ideas that will license for one year, multi years and, gasp, in perpetuity for the life of the digital format. As far as e-books, I am not familiar with those terms. Feel free to email me directly if you have any additional questions. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > From: Laura Jenemann > Date: February 4, 2014 8:45:01 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Multi-year lease for streaming films - reboot > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi videolibbers, > > I’m going to reboot my question in hopes that I might get a few more > responses. My question is philosophical in nature, rather than about > obtaining a lease to particular film. > > How do licensing models for e-books compare to licensing models of streaming > videos now? > What do we predict for the future? > > Thanks again for the guidance I’ve received already. > > Regards, > > Laura > > Laura Jenemann > Film Studies/Media Services Librarian > George Mason University > 703-993-7593 > ljene...@gmu.edu > > How do you address the faculty request for a streaming film that is only > available on a multi-year leasing basis with PPR? > > > Regards, > > Laura > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] documentary films on radical social movements
Hi Mathew, Greenpeace is considered one of the most radical environmental groups- Greenpeace: The Story The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence had their fair share of controversy in LGBT- Joy! Portrait of a Nun Kerouac, Ginsberg and Burroughs aren't considered so radical now but back in the day they spark a cultural revolution- Beat Generation The list grows. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com A professor is interested in documentaries on radical, leftist social movements (not particularly mainstream), on various topics, environmental, racial, glbt, native american, economic inequality, etc. Matthew Wright Head of Collection Development and Instructional Services William S. Boyd School of Law University of Nevada Las Vegas 4505 Maryland Parkway, Box 451080 Las Vegas, NV 89154-1080 (702) 895-2409; (702) 895-2410 (fax)VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] (no subject)
Are you looking solely at traditional families or broadening to include "modern" families? Only US families or families around the world? Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Nov 18, 2013, at 2:58 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Alex Mudd > Date: November 18, 2013 11:12:30 AM CST > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Documentaries about Families > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Subscribers, > > A faculty member came in late last week looking for documentaries/films > related to the Sociology of the Family. While I'm pouring over reviews and > working with this faculty member, I thought I might seek input from the > collective wisdom and see if there are any films popular/well-regarded at > your institution that you might recommend while I go through the usual > routes. > > Thanks for any input you might have! > > Alex Mudd, Reference and Instruction Librarian > Emporia State University > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Access to Library Resources for Remote Users
Some of our contracts do limit sales to a specific geographic location. Of course it would make no sense to interpret that to mean where the money is collected as that would open up the world to us (or Netflix) as you say. What matters is where the money is coming from. We cannot sell to someone outside the territory. If a contract limits sales and usage to a territory, that is a different matter. > > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: November 14, 2013 12:32:02 PM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Access to Library Resources for Remote Users > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I would check your contracts. Most film contracts limit sales within a > specific geographical territory and that means WHO can access it not where > the revenue comes from. If it did not Netflix would allow worldwide access on > the basis that they collect the revenue in the US. Rights holders I have > dealt with especially those that ARE outside the US are very sensitive about > this. > > I currently deal with a number of filmmaker/rightsholders ( like Nuremberg) > where they do indeed own all worldwide rights BUT because of their own > licenses they have to restrict or at least specify any access outside a > specific territory. > > > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Bob Norris wrote: > > I agree with Dee that if the terms of the license state that the video can > only be used within a certain territory(s), then selling to a student outside > the territory would be a violation. But a majority of Film Ideas' licenses to > universities are for current students and staff. So if a student does not > live on campus, or the country, that does not violate our agreement with the > university. Then you have to ask if Film Ideas is violating its agreement > with the producer that has only granted us rights to sell to the US market. I > would argue no if we are selling to a US entity. Revenue was generated within > the licensed territory. Some usage outside the US does not violate the spirit > of the agreement in my opinion. Life gets a little more complicated if the > University has foreign branches. > > Robert A. Norris > Managing Director > Film Ideas, Inc. > Phone:(847) 419-0255 > Email:b...@filmideas.com > Web: www.filmideas.com > > On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > >> >> From: "Dee Powell" >> Date: November 14, 2013 7:05:53 AM CST >> To: >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 72, Issue 19 >> Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> >> >> I would say that it would be the responsibility of the person/company >> setting up the online distance course in the first place, to ensure they >> have the rights to include whatever film/clips they require to be included. >> It would be at that point the decision is made. For example, we've licensed >> clips for online courses to a companies in perpetuity but restricted to >> certain territories. If the course is sold outside these territories, the >> company would be in breach of contract. >> >> That would be my take on the question - what do others think? >> >> >> >> Dee Powell >> Global Acquisitions Manager >> CLASSROOM VIDEO >> THE CRESCENT CENTRE >> TEMPLE BACK VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Access to Library Resources for Remote Users
I agree with Dee that if the terms of the license state that the video can only be used within a certain territory(s), then selling to a student outside the territory would be a violation. But a majority of Film Ideas' licenses to universities are for current students and staff. So if a student does not live on campus, or the country, that does not violate our agreement with the university. Then you have to ask if Film Ideas is violating its agreement with the producer that has only granted us rights to sell to the US market. I would argue no if we are selling to a US entity. Revenue was generated within the licensed territory. Some usage outside the US does not violate the spirit of the agreement in my opinion. Life gets a little more complicated if the University has foreign branches. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 1. Re: videolib Digest, Vol 72, Issue 19 (Dee Powell) > 2. Re: [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for > Emeritus Faculty (Jessica Rosner) > > From: "Dee Powell" > Date: November 14, 2013 7:05:53 AM CST > To: > Subject: Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 72, Issue 19 > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I would say that it would be the responsibility of the person/company setting > up the online distance course in the first place, to ensure they have the > rights to include whatever film/clips they require to be included. It would > be at that point the decision is made. For example, we've licensed clips for > online courses to a companies in perpetuity but restricted to certain > territories. If the course is sold outside these territories, the company > would be in breach of contract. > > That would be my take on the question - what do others think? > > > > Dee Powell > Global Acquisitions Manager > CLASSROOM VIDEO > THE CRESCENT CENTRE > TEMPLE BACK > BRISTOL > BS1 6EZ > > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:32:25 +0100 > From: Marta Sanchez > Subject: Re: [Videolib] [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources > for Emeritus Faculty > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Cc: laner...@plu.edu, colli...@ala.org > Message-ID: <11ba9cdd-e9ac-4dfe-a5c4-7fdbcd26a...@pragda.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Questions of great interest. And what happens with paid distant learning? If > a film is part of an online degree, can someone watch if from, let's say, in > China? This is a violation of territorial copyright. I am interested in > knowing what libraries and distributors think about this or in any policy is > in its way > > marta sanchez > director > > pragda llc > 302 bedford ave. #136 > brooklyn, ny 11249 > > > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: November 14, 2013 10:27:30 AM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] [collib-l] Remote Access to Library Resources for > Emeritus Faculty > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Issues of access to streaming should be covered by licenses agreed to by both > sides. I have been advising filmmakers/ rights holders to restrict streaming > to currently enrolled students & active faculty and staff. > > Marta's question about access outside the US is one I have been thinking > about. Since rights are often determined by territory I will advise > filmmakers to put something in the contract resting rights to purchasers > country. This may be an issue for some institutions and will have to be > negotiated but again many American distributors do not hold any rights > outside the US ( sometimes but not always Canada). It is clearly important > that these issues be spelled out in a licensing agreement. > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 63
I'd be willing to bet a buck that one of the major suppliers like Farhad mentioned has an educational initiative by the 2014 NMM. Obviously it would not have every program ever produced but there would be a critical mass of worthy content. Any takers please reply off line. On Oct 25, 2013, at 10:31 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: October 25, 2013 10:19:36 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming video question > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Not bloody likely. It would literally be impossible for them to clear rights > to do this, and the technology would be daunting too. Now it would be > interesting if a school were to say subsidize membership for students in > classes where films on these sites were going to be studied. > > Jessica > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Moshiri, Farhad wrote: > A TGIF question! > > Do Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, etc. have an educational institutions platform in > which the video librarians can select and purchase videos and then their > students and faculty can access those videos through log-in based on the > institutions’ IP addresses? This would be great if it exists or if it is > possible at all to replace purchasing DVDs. > > Farhad Moshiri, MLS > > Audiovisual & Music Librarian > > University of the Incarnate Word > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Blu ray questions
If I was a cash strapped University I'd hitch my wagon to streaming. Hard copy, no matter the quality, will ultimately go away. Can you obtain the rights to stream in HD Jessica? Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > From: Meghann Matwichuk > Date: October 22, 2013 1:15:27 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu ray questions > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Unfortunately you're right, Jessica -- my institution does not have the same > take as Mr. Moorman's. The Library is not given input into how classrooms > are outfitted or what technologies are supported. Few classrooms are > currently outfitted with Bluray players at UD, and the Library is not > purchasing streaming on a title-by-title basis. If we were to purchase a > Bluray where no standard disc was available, it would cause problems for many > patrons / instructors who might be interested in the title. > > -- > Meghann Matwichuk, M.S. > Associate Librarian > Film and Video Collection Department > Morris Library, University of Delaware VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 71, Issue 42
Hi Lori, Leslie Kussmann, owner of Aquarius, has been sick for some time. It has gotten to the point where she can no longer run the company. To my knowledge it has not been sold, simply wound down. Ursula may know more. See you at NMM. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:16 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Widzinski, Lori" > Date: October 21, 2013 9:09:45 AM CDT > To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" > Subject: [Videolib] Aquarius Health Care Media > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Anyone know what happened to Aquarius Health Care Media? Their web site has > been disabled, and I can’t get through with the phone number I have. > > Thanks! > > Lori Widzinski > Head, Multimedia Collections and Services VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Looking for some PPR
You just want to kick our buttocks. Count me out. Congrats btw. Bob On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:58 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 2. Re: Looking for some PPR (Elizabeth Sheldon) > > > From: Elizabeth Sheldon > Date: September 23, 2013 10:58:29 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Looking for some PPR > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I am off to a slow start today after completing my first triathlon yesterday > -- quite the milestone for me but thank you for pointing James in the right > direction. Who wants to join me on a morning run in Charleston at NMM? > > You can reply offline as I think this is rather off topic ; ) > > Best, > > Elizabeth VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] films on women in journalism
Woman Of The Year (1942) Bob > 1. Re: films on women in journalism > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Microsoft trashes First Sale Doctrine
From Microsoft announcement: "Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold." In a perfect world the First Sale Doctrine should apply to downloads too but I know there are DRM difficulties. Much better than before though! Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Jun 19, 2013, at 3:40 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Jodie Borgerding" > Date: June 19, 2013 3:40:29 PM CDT > To: > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Microsoft trashes First Sale Doctrine > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Randy, sounds like Microsoft is changing their tune. The news is still > developing though, but it looks like the Xbox News page crashed after an > official press release was posted (http://news.xbox.com/). > > http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310 > > Jodie VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Distributor posts to VideoLib
youareright. Go White Sox! On Jun 18, 2013, at 2:57 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Distributor posts to VideoLib (Deg Farrelly) > > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: June 18, 2013 2:06:08 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Distributor posts to VideoLib > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > While I am not the moderator of VideoLib, I have in the past two weeks > sent reminders to two distributors that VideoLib is not the forum for > posting announcements of new titles. > > I have done this off-list so as not to target or embarrass the > distributors who have so posted. > > Gary remained fairly vigilant on this matter, in order to both promote the > use of VideoNews as the appropriate (and opt-in) forum for such > announcements, and to keep this list clear for discussion of important > matters (Such as "Since I have the DVD I'm going to rip it to stream. > That's legal, right?" and "The Cubs really are the worst baseball team > ever, amiright?") > > So that everyone can benefit: > > VideoLib is devoted to the exchange of information and discussion of > issues related to library video collection development and management. > > While a distributor post would be appropriate in response to a list member > asking for suggestions or recommendations of videos on specific topics, an > announcement of a specific film or films on its own it is not appropriate > for this list. > > Announcements and/or promotion of new titles should be directed to the > parallel discussion list: VideoNews. VideoNews was established for this > specific purpose, to direct announcements of new titles, and to keep them > off the VideoLib discussion list. > > To subscribe to VideoNews see: > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videonews@lists.berkeley. > edu > > Thank you for your cooperation. > > deg farrelly, Media Librarian > Arizona State University Libraries > Hayden Library C1H1 > P.O. Box 871006 > Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 > Phone: 602.332.3103 > > --- > To market, to market, to find some fresh filmŠ > I'm attending the 2013 National Media Market, November 3-7 > In Charleston, South Carolina. See you there? > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 66, Issue 41
Makes total sense to me. I'll put Film Ideas on record as willing to participate in a central database. One hitch (of many I know) is what incentive there would be for someone to maintain such a database. You may have to buck up and subscribe to the service Jo Ann to make your life easier. Of course NMM has one started with the Preview Portal... On May 15, 2013, at 1:57 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: Jo Ann Reynolds > Date: May 15, 2013 1:40:59 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Streaming video vendor guide issue > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi Everyone, > > I thought the vendors out there might like to hear our (the buyers) stories > about how we go looking for films. It might help them to understand what we > go through and that would hopefully help them better understand the need for > a centralized place to search. > > So here I am, reserve services coordinator for a fairly large university. I > used to put over 1000 books on reserve every year and now it’s about 300. > Instead of putting books on reserve I put links to full text articles, some > 3000+; ebooks, small but growing as availability grows; and video, both DVD’s > and streams. Video is the second largest medium I put on reserve and is the > fastest growing medium I put on reserve, about 1000+ per year. > > How do films get chosen to go on Reserve? Some faculty talk to other faculty > and learn about them, others watch PBS or see a popular movie that will make > the point they want to make, while others say to me, “I need a film(s) on X > topic, can you suggest any?” So now I reach into my memory and might manage > to retrieve one or two, I search the database of material I put on course > reserve and see what other faculty are using and might come up with a few > more. Beyond that, IF I have the time, I’m faced with a website to website > search by vendor to see if I can find something they might be looking for. > It’s a cumbersome process and I tend to gravitate toward known vendors who’ve > proven to provide quality films in the past and who have good search engines. > I keep a list of those vendors in my media guide (see the Shop for Videos tab > here:http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources ). By the time I’ve gone > through some or all vendors on that list I’m done, no more time. So whether > I’ve found anything or not I let the faculty member know. You might argue > that there’s a whole lot of filmmakers whose work is not represented here and > you’d be right. The result is we both lose out on an opportunity. > > Think of Amazon where multiple vendors sell the same thing and make money. > The benefits of having a unified database far outweigh the perception of > customer loss via competition with other film vendors. I think if you > continue on this same path you will be committing market suicide in the long > run and you will sell less, not more, which means you message will reach > fewer people. > > I invite other librarians to share how/why a unified search for video/streams > would be useful to them. > > Best, > Jo Ann > > Jo Ann Reynolds > Reserve Services Coordinator > University of Connecticut Libraries > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu > 860-486-1406 > 860-486-5636 (fax) > http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Film on e-recycling?
If my memory serves me, which it is known not to do on occasion, you purchased Heavy Metal from the Reel China collection. It is about the 50,000 + workers in Shanghai that recycle over 2 million tons of hazardous metals and electronics every year. On May 6, 2013, at 2:57 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Film on e-recycling? (Deg Farrelly) > 2. Answer my own question (Deg Farrelly) > 3. Re: Answer my own question (Randal Baier) > 4. Re: Film on e-recycling? (Brian W Boling) > > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: May 5, 2013 5:11:26 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Film on e-recycling? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Does anyone know of a video that deals with the third world recycling of > toxic e-components? See NY Times article from Sunday: > > http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/opinion/sunday/where-do-old-cellphones-go-to-die.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130505 > > Sounds perfect for Bullfrog or VideoProject… > > Thanx for any leads. > > -deg > > deg farrelly, Media Librarian > Arizona State University Libraries > Hayden Library C1H1 > P.O. Box 871006 > Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 > Phone: 602.332.3103 > > --- > To market, to market, to find some fresh film… > I'm attending the 2013 National Media Market, November 3-7 > In Charleston, South Carolina. See you there? > > > > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: May 5, 2013 6:23:15 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Answer my own question > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Two films available online address the issue of toxic e-waste recycling: > > From 60 Minutes: > > Electronic Wasteland (November 9, 2008) > http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4586903n > > > And Frontline: > > Ghana: Digital Wasteland > http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/video/video_index.html > > > -deg > > deg farrelly, Media Librarian > Arizona State University Libraries > Hayden Library C1H1 > P.O. Box 871006 > Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 > Phone: 602.332.3103 > > --- > To market, to market, to find some fresh film… > I'm attending the 2013 National Media Market, November 3-7 > In Charleston, South Carolina. See you there? > > > > From: Randal Baier > Date: May 5, 2013 7:25:08 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Answer my own question > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Ah, thanks. I was pretty sure I had seen something on Frontline. > > > > > On May 5, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote: > >> Two films available online address the issue of toxic e-waste recycling: >> >> From 60 Minutes: >> >> Electronic Wasteland (November 9, 2008) >> http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4586903n >> >> >> And Frontline: >> >> Ghana: Digital Wasteland >> http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/ghana804/video/video_index.html >> >> >> -deg >> >> deg farrelly, Media Librarian >> Arizona State University Libraries >> Hayden Library C1H1 >> P.O. Box 871006 >> Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 >> Phone: 602.332.3103 >> >> --- >> To market, to market, to find some fresh film… >> I'm attending the 2013 National Media Market, November 3-7 >> In Charleston, South Carolina. See you there? >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. > > > > From: Brian W Boling > Date: May 6, 2013 8:10:03 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Film on e-recycling? > Reply-To: brian.bol...@temple.edu, videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Deg, > > The documentary film Terra Blight deals with the issue of e-waste: > > http://cinemaguild.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TCGS&Product_Code=2421 > > All best, > > Brian Boling > Media Services Librarian > Temple University Libraries > brian.bol...@temple.edu > > > > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Deg Farrelly wrote: > Does anyone know of a video that deals with the third world recycling of > toxic e-components? See
Re: [Videolib] Home Vision (or homevision) Distributor?
Hi Allen, Home Vision was acquired by Image Entertainment in 2005. You could ask someone there. Another thought. Home Vision distributed for Criterion and was probably their biggest source of content. Criterion is owned by Janus Films now I believe. Good luck, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Apr 25, 2013, at 2:17 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Reichert, Allen" > Date: April 25, 2013 1:56:19 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] Home Vision (or homevision) Distributor? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi all, > > There is a series we are interested in called Portrait of an Artist - Here is > one example from the series - > http://www.amazon.com/Portrait-Artist-Andy-Warhol-VHS/dp/630299604X/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top > > > It seems like this might have been from a British television show originally, > and it was distributed by Home Vision (or possibly homevision). Would anyone > know if this company still exists? We're interested in the whole series. > > Thanks, > Allen Reichert > Electronic Access Librarian > Otterbein University > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Pricing for stock footage
Hi Danette and Kim, I'd recommend she contact someone like the WPA Film Library, was at the NMM last year, to gain some market knowledge as well as a potential sales partner. When Film Ideas produces we typically shoot to clear all rights in perpetuity so my knowledge of stock footage rates is rusty. I looked at the NBC prices and they seemed high, especially for the short clips. It also depends on the type of footage. THere is tons of travel footage for example and not worth as much. Let me know if she has any of the Titanic sinking. Happy Friday Indeed, Bob On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:52 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Danette Pachtner > Date: April 19, 2013 12:06:51 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Pricing for stock footage > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Dear Colleagues, > A local documentarian has asked about going rates that houses charge for > stock footage. Her question: “What would be a good source for finding > ballpark figures of the value of some documentary footage I have?” I don’t > purchase stock footage for users here at Duke University—do you have > recommendations for her? Thanks for any input you can give, and Happy Friday! > Cheers, > Danette (danet...@duke.edu) > > > > > > From: "Stanton, Kim" > Date: April 19, 2013 1:52:49 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Pricing for stock footage > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > NBCUniversal Archives has a pricing tool on their website for licensing > footage. This might be helpful to gauge the going rate. Here’s an example: > > http://www.nbcuniversalarchives.com/nbcuni/clip/51A07252_002.do?assetId=asset_61961/clip_32220960 > > Thanks, > Kim > > > > Kim Stanton > Head, Media Library > University of North Texas > kim.stan...@unt.edu > P: (940) 565-4832 > F: (940) 369-7396 VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries
I agree with Junior. I've wagered my 2 cents that Blu-ray will not have time to replace DVD because streaming will obsolete both first. Why not put limited funds into a streaming platform instead of Blu-ray? Unless it is for film studies, students can suffer through a standard def version of Life of Pi. And they don't need gourmet meals either!! (Says a father with 2 children in college.) Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > 2. Blu-ray discs in academic libraries (Gail Gawlik) > > Hi, wise media people. > > We have just received our first request for blu-ray discs and are wondering > what other academic libraries are doing. Up until now, we have only > purchased DVDs and an occasional VHS-tape if the film is only available in > that format. We were wondering how other academic libraries handle this > new-ish format. > > In particular: > 1. Do you order blu-ray discs as a matter of course or only as a special > request? > 2. If you order the blu-ray version, do you also get the film on DVD? > 2. Do you try to get those DVD/blu-ray combo packs whenever you can? (They > look like a pretty good deal.) > > And does the media crowd here expect blu-ray to replace DVDs in the near > future? > > Thanks! > Gail > > > > Gail Gawlik > Head of Technical Services > Brown Library > University of St. Francis > Joliet, IL > > Wearing sensible shoes proudly since 1969. > > From: "Junior Tidal" > Date: April 8, 2013 1:47:39 PM CDT > To: > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Blu-ray discs in academic libraries > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > We've been building a blu-ray collection since the summer last year. > > We usually order the blu-ray version of most newer films and not the DVD. > Sometimes we find that the DVD/blu-ray combo packs are a comparable price to > the single Blu-ray discs. > > I don't know if blu-ray will ever replace DVD. My personal opinion is that > streaming media will probably replace both those formats. > > Best, > > Junior Tidal > Assistant Professor > Web Services and Multimedia Librarian > New York City College of Technology, CUNY > 300 Jay Street, Rm A434 > Brooklyn, NY 11201 > 718.260.5481 > > http://library.citytech.cuny.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 64, Issue 12
A third party, iTunes, is granting the perpetual right to view the studio's program if you purchase the download, not rent it. If you buy a standard def version and you want the HD version you will need to purchase another download. To take the analogy a bit further, what is the difference from a professor using a legally purchased DVD with home video rights in a face-to-face teaching situation and the professor using a digital file where the DRM has not been circumvented to teach within the classroom? Unless the Digital Millennium Copyright Act makes some distinction, I would think the digital version could be used in class until the file becomes corrupt or obsolete. > > Bob > Individual rights to download or watch are completely different from the > right to allow a third party to stream it forever. I can not envision a > scenario in which the studios will ever agree to this. I can easily see them > setting up their own or even a shared system to allow non download viewing > for specific periods of time but I can never imagine them doing the other. > Maybe about the same time they agree to sell Regal theaters the rights to > show the Wizard of Oz in perpetuity. > > In any event studio titles are rarely the ones we are discussing I just want > to point out that one should not expect to be able to buy CITIZEN KANE for > perpetual streaming. > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] DRL In Perpetuity
hat. > > 2) The url or link would be called the same thing and found in the same > place for every title. Picture the current situation for your ultimate end > user, faculty and students. Every vendor to which a library subscribes has a > different looking website, with different searching, and different > terminology and location for their permalinks. Multiple that by ebooks and > ejournals and you’ve got job security for librarians because we have to tell > them how to find and use the stuff. We’d much rather it be intuitive for the > user and spend our time helping patrons with things we really shouldn’t > expect them to know how to do. > > 3) Make your peace with IP protected access rather than the additional > step of availability only via a courseware system. This will reduce the cost > per view and help with purchasing decisions. > > 4) You can add extra goodies like linking to segments, the ability for > faculty to create clip libraries so they can show only the segments they need > to. > > 5) Faculty can view what the library has purchased rights to as well as > shop for other titles. > > 6) Provide METADATA so we can index it in our catalog, that’s where our > patrons go to look for stuff. > > 7) Learn what stop words are, e.g. A, An, The, and don’t alphabetize > your titles under those words. Do you know how many millions of books and > movies begin with one of those words. > > 8) Include identifying info beyond the title, e.g. date, director, > producer/director, stars because so many movies have the same or nearly the > same title. > > 9) Provide usage statistics, e.g. number of views, date of last view, > term, cost per term, cost per view over the term. > > 10) If licenses do expire, set it up so that the purchaser receives a > report, as in #9, and send it at least one month or more before they expire. > > > > Let me tell you, faculty just do not get why it can sometimes take months to > acquire a stream. They think everything is like Amazon instant video or the > iTunes store where they can get it instantly. > > > > Off my soapbox for now. > > > > Jo Ann > > > > Jo Ann Reynolds > > Reserve Services Coordinator > > University of Connecticut Libraries > > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005RR > > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > > jo_ann.reyno...@lib.uconn.edu > > 860-486-1406 > > 860-486-5636 (fax) > > http://classguides.lib.uconn.edu/mediaresources > > > > > > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:01 PM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] DRL In Perpetuity > > > > With all the discussions going on about desired pricing flexibility, I'd like > to bring up another collector request that is arising more and more- digital > rights licenses in perpetuity. The logic, which I agree with, is prior > formats (DVDs, VHS, etc.) were not limited by a term. Plus it is an > administrative burden for universities to track hundreds if not thousands of > expiration dates. For this discussion, let's assume that it is within the > distributor's rights to grant digital rights for the life of the original > digital file. > > > > I pick this scenario because I believe it is within distributor's rights to > grant a perpetual DRL as long as the file format is not changed and some > buyers seem to understand this and consider it an acceptable solution. > However, I do not see how this reduces the university's administrative costs. > You would still have to track the original file formats and make sure they > are not changed. In fact it seems even harder to track and enforce because IT > is often oblivious of copyright issues and would not necessarily notify > librarians of any format changes. > > > > Am I missing something or would the above solution simply shift the admin > burden, not eliminate it? Plenty of distributors would like to accommodate > collector's needs as long as it is within their legal right to do so and they > have reasonable assurances that university controls are in place to adhere to > the license terms. Any thoughts or insights on how to achieve this? > > > > Bob > > > > Robert A. Norris > > Managing Director > > Film Ideas, Inc. > > Phone: (847) 419-0255 > > Email:b...@filmideas.com > > Web: www.filmideas.com > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively di
[Videolib] DRL In Perpetuity
With all the discussions going on about desired pricing flexibility, I'd like to bring up another collector request that is arising more and more- digital rights licenses in perpetuity. The logic, which I agree with, is prior formats (DVDs, VHS, etc.) were not limited by a term. Plus it is an administrative burden for universities to track hundreds if not thousands of expiration dates. For this discussion, let's assume that it is within the distributor's rights to grant digital rights for the life of the original digital file. I pick this scenario because I believe it is within distributor's rights to grant a perpetual DRL as long as the file format is not changed and some buyers seem to understand this and consider it an acceptable solution. However, I do not see how this reduces the university's administrative costs. You would still have to track the original file formats and make sure they are not changed. In fact it seems even harder to track and enforce because IT is often oblivious of copyright issues and would not necessarily notify librarians of any format changes. Am I missing something or would the above solution simply shift the admin burden, not eliminate it? Plenty of distributors would like to accommodate collector's needs as long as it is within their legal right to do so and they have reasonable assurances that university controls are in place to adhere to the license terms. Any thoughts or insights on how to achieve this? Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] A Distributor's Response
A pricing discussion at NMM would certainly be lively but I doubt it would accomplish much. Each company must work out their own prices based on a host of factors. You know it is complicated when there are graduate level classes and Nobel Prizes for pricing models. However, from more of a fun standpoint, I may not be apposed to putting one of FIlm Ideas' titles up for sale based on a "pay what you feel you can" bases just to see what happens. Something may be learned. I'd only do it if the collective wisdom didn' think that was totally, for lack of a better word, stupid. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com Would you like streaming with that? > > From: "Hutchison, Jane" > Date: February 26, 2013 9:24:31 AM CST > To: "'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu'" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] A Distributor's Response > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > I concur with my colleagues in response to the tiered pricing. It seems that > we can compromise and help determine where the bottom line is for volume > sales versus the educational pricing. If prices were lowered, then the > volume of sales would increase. Where is that magic number? It would be > interesting to see if any company would try this and determine if it is > economically feasible to lower the pricing resulting in an increase in volume > purchases and still make it economically beneficial to the filmmaker and the > distributor. Perhaps a discussion at the National Media Market? > > > Jane B. Hutchison > Associate Director > Instruction & Research Technology > 300 Pompton Road > Wayne, NJ 07470 > (w)973-720-2980 > (cell) 973-418-7727 > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Three Myths about Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it
Well I see why it was taken down so quickly. Seems like an amateurish attempt for an arguably good cause. They get it wrong from the very first myth. The purpose of the copyright and patent clause is to promote the progress of science and art by securing the rights of authors (copyright) and inventors (patents). It is true the rights are granted for a limited time but it is not solely the limited time that protects progress. The Supreme Court determined that "because the purpose of the clause is to stimulate development of the works it protects, its application cannot result in inhibiting such progress." So that is why legislation focuses on the works and not the "common good" the RSC espouses. It would be a long rant to go through the whole document so I'll hop to solution # 4. From a small independent producer's standpoint I sure don't find this promotes progress (investment of our time and money). First we would have to accrue funds to be able to renew copyrights at each expiration period. That is money we would not be able to invest in new works. Stifling. Then we would have to gamble at each time period. Do I pay this lump sum amount and not recoup? I did that once already when deciding to bring out a title in the first place. This model favors the big companies with lots of capital. And I find it particularly insulting when they say the tax on renewing copyrights is "a far superior way for the government to generate revenue rather than having a tax system that disincetivizes work." WHAT? Those activities are my work. And yes it would disincentivize them. Whew. Got that off my chest. There are valid points made but let's not get crazy. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > 3. Fwd: [SCHOLCOMM] RSC Policy Brief that Hollywood Hated: Three > Myths about Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it (Cathy Michael) > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Marisa L. Ramirez > Date: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM > Subject: [SCHOLCOMM] RSC Policy Brief that Hollywood Hated: Three Myths about > Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it > To: ScholComm > > > Did anyone see this? Very interesting interaction on copyright between the > Republican Study Committee and Hollywood (MPAA and RIAA): > > Exerpt from Tech Dirt: > On Nov 16th, we reported on how the Republican Study Committee (the > conservative caucus of House Republicans) had put out a surprisingly awesome > report about copyright reform. You can read that post to see the details. The > report had been fully vetted and reviewed by the RSC before it was released. > However, as soon as it was published, the MPAA and RIAA apparently went > ballistic and hit the phones hard, demanding that the RSC take down the > report. They succeeded. > Full story: > http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121117/16492521084/hollywood-lobbyists-have-busy-saturday-convince-gop-to-retract-copyright-reform-brief.shtml > > > The RSC Policy Brief that was retracted hours after it was posted: > "Three Myths about Copyright Law and Where to Start to Fix it" > http://www.hyperorg.com/misc/rsc_policy_brief_--_three_myths_about_copyright_law_and_where_to_start_to_fix_it_--_november_16_2012.pdf > > > HT to Michele Wyngard for bringing this to my attention. :) > > Best, > Marisa > > Marisa Ramirez > Digital Scholarship Services Librarian > Robert E. Kennedy Library, Rm 104A > California Polytechnic State University > Voice: 805.756.7040 > mrami...@calpoly.edu > http://lib.calpoly.edu/scholarship/ > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] average cost of DVD today
Home Media Magazine compiles a lot of stats. You could try them on the feature side. If you find out anything for academic I'd be interested, as I imagine a lot of vendors would be. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Sep 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Subject: [Videolib] average cost of DVD today > > We're doing some policy changes and Circ needs me to come up with some > statistics on average cost of DVDs these days. I am getting our average cost > in-house but that number will obviously be skewed by the high cost of > academic films and the low cost of feature films. I tried Bowker Annual, but > it only lists book prices. Is there any source out there where I can find > average cost for DVDs (feature films and academic)? > > Thanks so much, > Philip > > Philip Bahr > Reference & Media Librarian > > DiMenna-Nyselius Library > Fairfield University > 1073 North Benson Road > Fairfield, CT 06824 > > 203-254-4206 > pb...@fairfield.edu > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] This sounds pretty cool
Google has been in a decade long lawsuit to digitize every book for "research" purposes. How is this different when Mr. Kahle states “We want to collect all the books, music and video that has ever been produced by humans”? He must be implying news assets. Would a documentary be considered news? I'd say that wouldn't be pretty cool. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. On Sep 17, 2012, at 9:33 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: September 17, 2012 9:33:13 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] This sounds pretty cool > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/business/media/internet-archive-amasses-all-tv-news-since-2009.html?hp > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] thoughts on distribution
Hi Lorraine, I know John McLean Media has carried this title for about 5 years. Is John only handling television? Is there any other current distribution other than Amazon? It is harder to get distribution the more a title has already been exploited. Plus the $40 price point presents a problem. I'd say you are correct to pursue distributor's such as Kino. Look at the National Media Market exhibiting partners for other options. Midwest, etc. typically will not purchase from an individual or entity selling a single title. Good luck, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:23 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: "Wochna, Lorraine" > Date: August 30, 2012 1:16:16 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: Re: [Videolib] thoughts on distribution > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > All, > > Thanks everyone so far for your suggestions. I didn't get a lot of chatter, > so I'm thinking you all don't have much to say on the matter. I'm not trying > to hype his film, I'm just trying to help him understand the world of > distribution and thought you all may have some wisdom. > > Thanks again, > lorraine > > -Original Message- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Tatar, Becky > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:27 PM > To: 'videolib@lists.berkeley.edu' > Subject: Re: [Videolib] thoughts on distribution > > I'm nowhere near knowledgeable about this, but I have had several people in > the past ask me how to get their films to a bigger audience. I recommended > that they submit their films to Booklist, Library Journal and Video Librarian > for review. They might not review it, but if they did, a lot of librarians > would see it. Also, see if any of the major distributors - Midwest, B&T, > AEC, etc, would carry it. It looks interesting, and the few reviews on > Amazon were very positive. And, it doesn't cost an arm or two legs! > > Becky Tatar > Periodicals/Audiovisuals > Aurora Public Library > 1 E. Benton Street > Aurora, IL 60505 > Phone: 630-264-4100 > FAX: 630-896-3209 > blt...@aurora.lib.il.us > www.aurorapubliclibrary.org > > -Original Message- > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:48 AM > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] thoughts on distribution > > Hello CW, > > I have a faculty member who made a film and is trying to get distribution. > It's been in festivals, and he has it for sale on Amazon, but he was hoping > to get a bit more play out of it with universities, libraries, museums > because it hits so many disciplines. > > My thoughts were getting distributors that focus on schools that purchase > educational films, such as Kino, Docurama, maybe Microcinema. Also, > contacting each one of the more independent distributors. > > Here is the link, so you can see what I'm talking about > http://humanities.case.edu/media/eventGuides/191_Frederick_Lewis_Guide.pdf > Reading this may lead you to think he 'should' know what he's doing, but I > think this particular film is his baby, and he wants it to get more play. > > I realize we are not distributors, but I wondered if you had any sage or even > unsage advice you could offer. It would be greatly appreciated. Please let > me know if I overstepped my bounds here. > > Thanks a lot > lorraine > > > lorraine wochna > Alden Library, Ohio University > Instruction Coordinator > Subjects: African American Studies | English | Film |Theatre > T: 740 597 1238 > http://libguides.library.ohiou.edu/profile/lorraine VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] streaming files from DVD onto a computer
.dvdmedia is native to Mac OS and is actually a Video_TS folder. Very limited. Will only play on the Mac. Will not even plan on iPad, iPhone, etc. Technically you could stream it to an Apple TV but that is about it. I don't use RipIt but I believe you can change the file setting. Probably defaulting to .dvdmedia for Mac. Speaking of ripit, I'm late to the discussion, but sure the copyright concerns have already been discussed. Bob On Jul 26, 2012, at 2:51 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: hand...@berkeley.edu > Date: July 26, 2012 11:25:44 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] streaming files from DVD onto a computer > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Yeah, Rick, but .dvdmedia files (whatever THEY are) can't be streamed (at > least I don't think so). The problem with most DVD ripping software is > that they unbundle audio and video...the ripped files can be played on a > computer with standard DVD player software, but not uploaded to a server > and streamed. > > gary h > > >> On 7/25/12 3:09 PM, "Michelle Ehenpreis" sent this: >> >>> Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry about transferring VHS >>> to >>> DVD. We located a local business who will do it for us. However, we >>> would like >>> to stream the files from the DVDs and the business doing the conversion >>> cannot >>> provide the files. Does anyone know of a way to easily and safely rip >>> DVDs >>> onto a computer? >>> >> >> On a Mac, use RipIt to get the audio and video to a .dvdmedia file on your >> storage device. >> >>> From there, I'd use HandBrake to recode to your streaming format of >>> choice. >> >> Hth >> Rick Faaberg VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] More about beating the deadline for NMM
And vice versa. CCUMC attendees can come to the NMM for a small additional fee. Detailed info on both websites. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On May 12, 2012, at 2:50 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > 1. More about beating the deadline for NMM (Deg Farrelly) > > From: Deg Farrelly > Date: May 11, 2012 3:13:11 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] More about beating the deadline for NMM > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Let me add to Ursula's comments about the National Media Market. > > This year the NMM overlaps with the CCUMC Conference, ( http://www.ccumc.org > )also in Las Vegas. Some activities with both NMM and CCUMC attendees are > planned. > > Also NMM attendees can take advantage of the overlap to attend the CCUMC > conference on Thursday, for a small additional fee. > > The CCUMC conference program will include programs specifically geared to > content issues that day. > > So if you have thought about CCUMC but have never been able to participate, > this is an excellent opportunity Come to the Market, and sample CCUMC > > -deg > > deg farrelly > ASU Libraries > Arizona State University > P.O. Box 871006 > Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 > 480.965.1403 > > > > Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:22:32 -0700 > From: Ursula Schwarz > Subject: [Videolib] Beat the deadline - register NOW and save! > > > Time is running out to register for the 34th National Media Market (NMM) to > be held September 30 - October 4, 2012 in Las Vegas. > > Take advantage of the Early Bird registration fee of $105, which includes > the full conference - lunches, receptions, program guide and professional > development workshops. > > Register now, or anytime before the May 15, 2012 deadline to reserve this > special rate, but pay after you receive your new budget. > > New This Year! > The NMM Board of Directors recently announced a new value-added service: a > preview portal that consolidates multiple distributors' content into a > single online catalog. The new preview portal facilitates easy search and > acquisition of educational video content offered by NMM exhibitors. Free > access to the preview portal will only be available to NMM attendees. > > For detailed information about the Market and the Preview Portal go to > www.nmm.net or call the Market Director Ursula Schwarz at (520) 743-7735, > email direc...@nmm.net. > > National Media Market > P.O. Box 87410 > Tucson, AZ 85754-7410 > (520) 743-7735 > http://www.nmm.net/ > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Policy for streaming individual film titles
Hi Gail, Many schools are purchasing streaming rights to individual titles. Film Ideas thinks choice is important. No database has all the content a professor needs. So to help facilitate these individual purchases, Film Ideas is giving away its streaming software to schools for free. I know New Day can host the program for you, but if you are interested in exploring hosting video, please contact me off-line. Regards, Bob Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > From: "Gail Gawlik" > Date: May 11, 2012 11:52:23 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Cc: Terry Cottrell > Subject: [Videolib] Policy for streaming individual film titles > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > My school is just starting to use streaming videos. So far we have only > purchased video databases. But we currently have a professor who is asking > for a single title from New Day Films. So we were wondering: > > 1. Are schools purchasing individual titles for streaming? > 2. If so, what sort of policy to you have for purchasing these titles? That > is, how do you decide what titles to buy and how much to spend? Any other > restrictions? > 3. What sort of licence do you choose for these titles? I see for this New > Day one we could get a 5-year license or a 14-day one. I've also seen > "forever" licences that seem to generally cost twice the price of a normal > DVD. > > Thanks! > Gail > > Gail Gawlik > Head of Technical Services > University of St. Francis Library > Joliet, IL > > > > From: Ursula Schwarz > Date: May 11, 2012 1:22:32 PM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Beat the deadline - register NOW and save! > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Time is running out to register for the 34th National Media Market (NMM) to > be held September 30 - October 4, 2012 in Las Vegas. > > Take advantage of the Early Bird registration fee of $105, which includes the > full conference - lunches, receptions, program guide and professional > development workshops. > > Register now, or anytime before the May 15, 2012 deadline to reserve this > special rate, but pay after you receive your new budget. > > New This Year! > The NMM Board of Directors recently announced a new value-added service: a > preview portal that consolidates multiple distributors' content into a single > online catalog. The new preview portal facilitates easy search and > acquisition of educational video content offered by NMM exhibitors. Free > access to the preview portal will only be available to NMM attendees. > > For detailed information about the Market and the Preview Portal go to > www.nmm.net or call the Market Director Ursula Schwarz at (520) 743-7735, > email direc...@nmm.net. > > National Media Market > P.O. Box 87410 > Tucson, AZ 85754-7410 > (520) 743-7735 > http://www.nmm.net/ > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Fair use and video document
Interesting that Jane Hutchison comment on the almost year old article the day before deg posted it. Correlated? The us vs. them language seems natural to me in an article devoted to exploiting fair use to the fullest. Overall seemed on target to me. Claire Stewart, member of the working group and fellow Evanstonian, coauthored Intellectual Property Law & Interactive Media, Free For A Fee if you want to further devote your life to copyright law. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On May 2, 2012, at 8:40 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > > From: Dennis Doros > Date: May 2, 2012 8:40:48 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Fair use and video document > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Well, deg's right that it'll probably cause some consternation among "my" > people -- it's definitely inflammatory in its descriptions of distributors > and the us versus them rhetoric and who "owns" the copyright law. I do > appreciate the line near the end "Not a single librarian revealed herself as > being either cavalier about the law or dismissive of the market" and know it > to be the case among most but it would be nice to have some of the > discussions we've had here about the balancing the needs of education versus > the sustainability of producing new content. The lack thereof makes me want > to set up fishing dates with Gary. :-) > > Dennis VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Lifetime Streaming Rights
I hate to bring up a copyright issue again but... There was recently a discussion if it is acceptable for a distributor to grant Lifetime streaming rights. There was a faction that argued it is acceptable as long as you limit the rights to a single digital format and do not allow the buyer to transcode the file to a new format. They could use the original file as long as it plays on their streaming service just like they could use a DVD as long as it works. The analogy was made to a download in the consumer market not having a time restriction. I was recently discussing this with an institution that wants to stream in perpetuity in any format. I said Apple does not permit that and she asked if that was through a technical limitation/DRM or the Terms and Conditions agreement. I had to admit I did not know. So I reviewed the terms (http://www.apple.com/legal/itunes/us/terms.html#SERVICE) and can see no restriction about copying files to a new format. They only limit playback to 5 iTunes approved devices and do not allow iTunes video to be burned, which I think means to disc. Then I transcoded a m4a file to an ACC file and played it back no problem. So it looks like Apple is selling the right to play back in any digital format in perpetuity. Am I missing something? Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational streaming
Well it is clear Gary did not research the link thoroughly. I think he should. Bob On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:21 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 1. Re: FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational > streaming (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) > 2. Re: FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational > streaming (Junior Tidal) > 3. Good Night and Good Luck (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) > 4. Re: FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational > streaming (Dennis Doros) > 5. Re: FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational > streaming (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) > > From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Date: April 2, 2012 10:05:39 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] FW: News Alert: Supreme Court rules on educational > streaming > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > This sounds completely bogus...the case hasn't even made it thru appellate > court yet... > > gary > > >> FYI >> >> Anyone else receive this or hear anything about this ruling? >> >> -deg >> >> deg farrelly >> ASU Libraries >> Arizona State University >> P.O. Box 871006 >> Tempe, Arizona 85287-1006 >> 480.965.1403 >> >> >> Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 9:45 AM >> To: Deg Farrelly >> >> Breaking News Alert >> The New York Times >> Sunday, April 1, 2012 -- 12:31 PM EDT >> - >> >> Supreme Court rules on copyright for educational video >> >> In a surprise ruling the Supreme Court has determined that educational use >> of commercial video by means of streaming services falls within the >> face-to-face teaching exemption (Section 110) of U.S. copyright law. >> Based on arguments in the AIME v UCLA lawsuit, this ruling provides >> educational institutions permission to digitize and stream videos from any >> source, provided those materials were legally acquired. >> >> Read More: >> http://tinyurl.com/nytimes-supreme-court-on-video >> >> About This E-Mail >> You received this message because you are signed up to receive breaking >> news >> alerts from NYTimes.com. >> >> To unsubscribe, change your e-mail address or to sign up for daily >> headlines >> or other newsletters, go to: >> http://www.nytimes.com/email >> >> NYTimes.com >> 260 Seventh Ave. >> New York, NY 10016 >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Lifetime Streaming Rights
I'm going to have to disagree. Selling streaming rights for the life of the digital file to a university is not comparable to a broadcast sale in perpetuity. In the former case you are selling to a single entity. Using Facets as an example, the school could pay $20 for in classroom face to face use of a DVD. But if they want to stream the school pays $500. So the producer is the beneficiary of a higher royalty. And if Facet's license expires and a new distributor picks up the title they can sell a new digital format to that school. (Believe me, formats will change.) Plus they can sell to all the other schools that never purchased the title. If a distributor sold broadcast rights in perpetuity that would lock up the whole broadcast market in that territory forever. That would not be right. The difference is you are selling a right, not a thing. iTunes does not place a time limitation on my music downloads of major recording artists. I don't think video distributors are required to set an arbitrary termination date on the use of a particular digital file either. Of course if the producer's agreement prohibits lifetime sales then Film Ideas would not grant them. Respectfully, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:54 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > 1. Re: Facets launches EDU site with streaming rights > (Jessica Rosner) > > From: Jessica Rosner > Date: March 16, 2012 2:52:35 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Facets launches EDU site with streaming rights > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Elizabeth > I know we have disagreed on this and I have run this by many companies > that distribute foreign film in particular and all I have spoken do > not believe their contracts permit the sale of lifetime streaming if > they for instance have the right to sell downloads to individuals for > the fixed period on the contract. I believe the closer comparison is > to a TV sale. Most contracts don't permit a distributor to make a sale > for a cable, Internet or other broadcast form to that would permit the > companies broadcast or download the film forever. The rights are > limited by the term of the contract. More specifically I have directly > asked several European companies about lifetime streaming rights and > they refused and some of these are the same companies Kino/Lorber has > films from. I feel very strongly that if these rights were allowed > they should be explicitly included in a contract because you are not > selling a physical item like a print or a VHS but rights that can > literally never expire in a format that can be used forever. > > Since again I have been explicitly told by several major overseas > rights holders that their contract do not include this I think it > would be unfair to have institutions in the middle. Frankly there have > in fact been a number of cases in which > after a contract expired a rights holder told an institution that a > distributor had no rights to sell a particular item with lifetime PPR > and they insisted that showings be cancelled and the film never shown. > It is not common because most large overseas companies have little > knowledge or interest in such things but again this should be between > distributors and rights holders. Obviously if you believe your > contracts cover this you should make sure the rights holders are > informed and agree to this. > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Elizabeth Sheldon > wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> As a film distribution company who offers DSL with streaming rights 'for the >> life of the digital file,' we consider a DSL analogous to a download in the >> consumer market. If one of our customers wants to purchase a DVD with or >> without PPR, great; if they would prefer the digital file with a streaming >> license, we will supply it. We think that a DSL is a premium license and >> this is reflected in our pricing, which is very close to Facets pricing. >> >> Just as when we sell a DVD with PPR to a school, when our original agreement >> expires with the filmmaker, we do not ask our librarian customers to return >> the DVDs because the PPR license has not expired. The rights we sell during >> the term continue beyond the term of our original license with a filmmaker. >> If in our agreements there is specific language that prohibits us from >> selling either PPR or DSL, it is not available from our site: >> www.kinolorberedu.com. >> >> However, what we do frown upon is encoding from a DVD without purchasing the >> DSL. Now that irritates me. >> >> Best, >> >> Elizabeth >> >> Elizabeth Sheldon >> Vice President >> Kino Lorber, Inc. >> 333 W. 39th St., Suite 503 >> New York, NY 10018 >> (212) 629-6880 >> >> www.kinolorberedu.com >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues r
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 52, Issue 21
Hi Terri: If South Pacific Pictures cannot grant you PPR for Whale Rider directly they could let you know who can. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com > > 1. PPR Help? (Ledbetter, Terri) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
This may seem like a naive question, but is all the focus on theatrical because
it is assumed that a program from an educational distributor would not qualify
under fair use because of the adverse affect upon the potential market for or
value of the copyrighted work? And if this is true, would that extend to
segments of a program if the distributors sells digital segments of the program?
I think Film Ideas would be willing to agree its license agreements shall not
supersede the rights already granted to users under copyright law. Although, if
we cannot agree on what the law states, I'm not sure how much weight that
statement carries.
Bob Norris
Managing Director
Film Ideas, Inc.
Phone: (847) 419-0255
Email: b...@filmideas.com
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:16 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:
>
> From: "Simpkins, Terry W."
> Date: February 6, 2012 12:41:16 PM CST
> To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu"
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
> Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Jessica Rosner asks "If you ... are sincere that you are not the enemy of
> content owners, how bout a simple and CLEAR statement that "fair use' does
> NOT cover the use of feature material being assigned to classes."
>
> I am not one of the authors of the guidelines, but I can imagine that one
> reason they might be uncomfortable with such a statement is because, well, it
> has no basis in the law. We all know the drill by heart, don't we? Each
> fair use decision includes a judgment about the nature of the use (perhaps
> "assigned to class," in a non-profit setting), the nature of the work
> (perhaps "feature material"), the amount being used (perhaps the whole film,
> perhaps not), and the effect on the market (perhaps a large negative effect,
> perhaps it will stimulate interest and sales). The law deliberately requires
> us to reflect on each of these aspects. It is not a mere check-list that
> makes simplistic assertions about whether using one highly-generalized type
> of material ("feature films") in another highly generalized setting
> ("classes") is, or is not, fair use. Why on earth would librarians and
> educators (or any sane individual, for that matter) voluntarily limit rights
> granted to us by law? If the law was intended to exempt "feature materials"
> from the fair use provisions in this manner, I am confident it would have
> been written to say that. Perhaps content owners might make a similarly
> "simple and clear statement" saying that license agreements shall not under
> any circumstances supersede the rights already granted to users under the
> fair use, or any other, provision of the copyright law, just to "prove" they
> are not the "enemy" of education.
>
> The law as written does not protect those librarians, students, faculty, or
> administrators who seek to use fair use as a shield to avoid buying
> sufficient licensed or legally acquired copies. I'm sure there are folks out
> there, possibly even on this list, who do that. There are unethical
> practitioners in every field - yes, including librarians, educators, and even
> media distributors - but the law already prohibits, for example, showing a
> film in a public setting without permission just because someone wants to
> save on licensing fees.
>
> Oh, and my understanding about books is that, when it comes to fair use, the
> same factors apply. As far as I know, there is no blanket legal prohibition
> on libraries scanning an entire book and posting it online. Using the entire
> work, whether in the case of a film or a book, certainly and appropriately
> makes satisfying the fair use test that much more difficult. But it does not
> automatically render it impossible, however much Ms. Rosner or anyone else
> would like it to be so.
>
> Terry
>
> Terry Simpkins
> Director, Research and Collection Services
> Library & Information Services
> Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753
> (802) 443-5045
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Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
You seem to be putting words in my mouth if the below reply is directed to my comment. I do agree that the world would be a better place if everyone had a clear understanding of all copyright law. I applaud ACRL taking a step in that direction. My concern is an overly aggressive interpretation of Fair Use does threaten content owners. On Feb 6, 2012, at 9:00 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: Patricia Aufderheide > Date: February 6, 2012 8:39:10 AM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices > Reply-To: pauf...@american.edu, videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Thank you for noticing that fair use does not threaten content owners. > Indeed, most of us are content owners, after all. One of the benefits of > having clear understandings at the level of professional practice about fair > use is that it reduces marketplace friction, and makes it easier for content > holders to clearly identify when uses might reasonably exceed fair use. At > the same time, fair use enables content creation at every point. You couldn't > have documentary film or journalism without it, and those are communities > that are legitimately and correctly passionate about ownership rights. > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Bob Norris wrote: > Three cheers to Gary for sticking up for the content owners. > Bob > Film Ideas, Inc. > > On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:55 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: ACRL Best Practices (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) >> >> From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu >> Date: January 30, 2012 10:50:13 AM CST >> To: pauf...@american.edu, videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices >> Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu >> >> >> Thanks, Pat (and thanks again for spearheading the development of these >> guidelines) >> >> I am a still a bit concerned about the e-reserves section--the limitations >> and enhancements not withstanding. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
Three cheers to Gary for sticking up for the content owners.
Bob
Film Ideas, Inc.
On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:55 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..."
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: ACRL Best Practices (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu)
>
> From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu
> Date: January 30, 2012 10:50:13 AM CST
> To: pauf...@american.edu, videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ACRL Best Practices
> Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>
>
> Thanks, Pat (and thanks again for spearheading the development of these
> guidelines)
>
> I am a still a bit concerned about the e-reserves section--the limitations
> and enhancements not withstanding.
>
> If I am reading this section correctly, almost any full-length copyrighted
> video work that is central to the curriculum ("the instructor’s
> pedagogical
> purpose") could conceivable be digitized and streamed for use in
> face-to-face classroom teaching under the banner of "transformative use"
> (I screen Avatar in an ethnic studies class to discuss metaphors of
> imperialism, bingo! Transformative!)
>
> It seems to me that this particular section ignores (or at least attempt
> to trump) the established tests of fair use, as, for example, cases in
> which a content owner/provider that has an existing or potential
> significant economic stake in making content available online.
>
> Thanks as always for your views and input.
>
> Gary Handman
>
>
>> Thank you for reading these!
>> 1) In terms of e-reserves (section 1), it's really important to read both
>> the limitations and the enhancements. They qualify that general assertion,
>> and make clear that you need a transformative purpose, which in the case
>> of
>> e-reserves would be appropriate to the course. You can also see that there
>> are limitations regarding the type of material as well. And of course
>> appropriate amount, as the general material in the code stresses, is
>> always
>> an issue.
>>
>> *LIMITATIONS *
>>
>> Closer scrutiny should be applied to uses of content created and marketed
>> primarily for use in courses such as the one at issue (e.g., a textbook,
>> workbook, or anthology designed for the course). Use of more than a brief
>> excerpt from such works on digital networks is unlikely to be
>> transformative and therefore unlikely to be a fair use.
>>
>> The availability of materials should be coextensive with the duration of
>> the course or other time-limited use (e.g., a research project) for which
>> they have been made available at an instructor’s direction.
>>
>> Only eligible students and other qualified persons (e.g., professors’
>> graduate assistants) should have access to materials.
>>
>> Materials should be made available only when, and only to the extent that,
>> there is a clear articulable nexus between the instructor’s pedagogical
>> purpose and the kind and amount of content involved.
>>
>> Libraries should provide instructors with useful information about the
>> nature and the scope of fair use, in order to help them make informed
>> requests.
>>
>> When appropriate, the number of students with simultaneous access to
>> online
>> materials may be limited.
>>
>> Students should also be given information about their rights and
>> responsibilities regarding their own use of course materials.
>>
>> Full attribution, in a form satisfactory to scholars in the field, should
>> be provided for each work included or excerpted.
>>
>> *ENHANCEMENTS:*
>>
>> The case for fair use is enhanced when libraries prompt instructors, who
>> are most likely to understand the educational purpose and transformative
>> nature of the use, to indicate briefly in writing why particular material
>> is requested, and why the amount requested is appropriate to that
>> pedagogical purpose. An instructor’s justification can be expressed via
>> standardized forms that provide a balanced menu of common or recurring
>> fair
>> use rationales.
>>
>> In order to assure the continuing relevance of those materials to course
>> content, libraries should require instructors of recurrently offered
>> courses to review posted materials and make updates as appropriate.
>>
>>
>> 2) In terms of copying to preserve (e.g. VHS to DVD), again it's important
>> to look at the limitations; in this area, the existence of commercial
>> availability is the very first reference. This is a transformative
>> purpose,
>> in the sense that this material, which had been unuseable for teaching
>> purposes (usually what drives such a decision is a teacher's need for
>> materials that are either fragile or that no longer have players in the
>> classroom) is made useful again. This clause in no way undercuts a
>> distributor's ability to offer a commercial service, and in no way does it
>> give librarians a blank check to copy over their collections wholesale
>> from
>> format to
Re: [Videolib] PAL question
Just to clarify Dennis' response a bit, there are two parts to the equation. He is referring to PAL. That is a television format (NTSC in USA). You need a mulit-system DVD player that will play PAL on US TV's. Or you can play a PAL DVD on most computers. The region 0 refers to DVD region protection. 0 is open so would not stop you from playing it on a DVD player manufactured for the US. Feel free to contact me if you need more detailed info. Happy Holidays all. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. On Dec 23, 2011, at 11:50 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Dennis Doros > Date: December 23, 2011 11:50:06 AM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] PAL question > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > It just depends if you have a multi-system DVD player or not. In Europe, they > almost all are. in the United States, some are, but usually you have to > specifically purchase one. > > Best regards, > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & Video/Milliarium Zero > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Merle J. Slyhoff > wrote: > We had a request for a dvd from France. The company responded that it is in > PAL Region 0. They seemed to indicate we would be able to use it here. Our > IT department isn’t sure if it would work. Does anyone have experience using > Region 0 dvds? Your help is appreciated. Thanks! And happy holidays to all > > > > Merle > > > > *** > > Merle J. Slyhoff V: 215-898-9013 > > Collection Development & F: 215-898-6619 > > Resource Sharing LibrarianE: mslyh...@law.upenn.edu > > Biddle Law Library > > University of Pennsylvania > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] *New* Across Land, Across Sea: Defecting from North Korea
Across Land, Across Sea: Defecting from North Korea a film by Harkjoon Lee, Dongkyun Ko & Hein S. Seok in association with Korea Creative Content Agency, The Foundation Broadcast for Culture, RTBF, Chosun TV, NHK, TVN24, DR2 Songgook escaped from North Korea to South Korea when he was just 14 years old. Today he is newly-wed with a child on the way. As is the case for an estimated 20,000 defectors who have built or are trying to build new lives in the South, he is attempting to secure his entire family's freedom by arranging their defection. This phenomenon has been coined the "chain of escapes." Songgook puts his life at risk, making a dangerous trek to the Tumen River, a border zone between China and North Korea. His plan is a dangerous one; to illegally smuggle his family out of China by boat into the international waters between China and Korea. It is in the safety of international waters where he plans to hand over his family to a South Korean registered boat. Once his family is safely transferred, Songgook plans to return to China where he will then legally re-enter South Korea by plane. Because of the extreme dangers associated with this journey, this kind of escape is very rare. This is the first ever to be documented on video. Production being finalized now. Trailer to follow shortly. Copyright 2012 $225.00 Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.comVIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] media/digital/transliteracy?
Hi Maureen, Trans lit is a new one for me too. Glad Matt was able to clarify because I went a totally different direction. As a producer, we deal mainly in media literacy. The best organization I know that may be able to help is the Center for Media Literacy. Check out http://www.medialit.org/. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com On Dec 6, 2011, at 2:07 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] videolib Digest, Vol 48, Issue 55
Hi Carolyn and welcome, Film Ideas does have low res streams on its website that are painful to watch in full screen. We serve a broad constituency, many of whom share limited bandwidth with their colleagues. A high res file would buffer and make reviewing a program difficult. However, should you purchase a program from Film Ideas with digital rights (hosted by you or us) we would encode the file to your specs. Hope that helps, Bob Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: i...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:55 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Carolyn S Faber > Date: November 22, 2011 9:55:28 AM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming media vendor list > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hello, > > I'm relatively new to this list (been lurking for a couple months) and have > have found the discussions on streaming media really useful. I was wondering > if some of you would care to comment on the quality of the streamed images. > Our library is testing out some of the sites mentioned and I found the > low-res streams to be watchable - especially for short-form content on a > small device (phone, ipod etc.) - but the full-screen views I've tried so > far are uniformly terrible. We don't have a bandwidth problem here, the > stream itself is steady, so I'm inclined to think it's on the vendor side. > The image is consistently blurry/fuzzy/cloudy, full of compression artifacts. > I've tried looking at different types of content from different vendors and > while there are slight variances there isn't one that I would watch in > full-screen mode. But that's how I would want to watch it. Is it just me? > How are people viewing streaming media and what do you or your users think > about the quality of the image(s)? > > My apologies if this is something that has been discussed recently. > > Cheers, > Carolyn > > -- > Carolyn Faber > Film and Media Technician > Flaxman Library > School of the Art Institute of Chicago > 37 S. Wabash > Chicago, Il 60603 > 312-629-1341 > 16mm Film Study Collection > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] What do you use for streaming videos?
Hi deg and all, Film Ideas is giving away the source code to its streaming service, no strings attached. The hope is to increase our digital sales but there is no requirement to buy. You can review the interface at www.fichannels.com and click on the free trial for instance access. You do not have to register. You can brand the site any way you want and it is easy to enter your own subjects, resources, etc. I can train an admin person in less than an hour. Regards, bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com "The military wants a system that protects its policies and privileges." Benazir Bhutto Political Assassination On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:49 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 4. What do you use for streaming videos? (Deg Farrelly) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Who do you report to?
I was expecting Gary to say he reports to no one. Bob Norris Film Ideas VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] I guess we can agree on something
I like the Groupon idea. It is all about getting the guaranteed volume. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Free Streaming Software
To clarify, Film Ideas wants to go opposite of proprietary. We would give away the source code and institutions can leave as is or modify as they see fit. You could add your own content, content from other producers/distributors (assuming you have the rights : - ) ) and of course Film Ideas' programs. The idea is to facilitate choice versus a prepackaged service. We'd like to get some comments that support whether you think the software is robust enough for your in house use, if you like the style and navigation, etc. Film Ideas will have to incur some additional time and expense to prepare a free version so we want to make sure it is a viable concept before we do so. Thanks much all. Bob On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:11 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > 3. Re: Free Streaming Software (ghand...@library.berkeley.edu) > From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Date: June 15, 2011 10:32:42 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Free Streaming Software > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > Hi > > If you're talking about the necessity of an institution having to download > propriety software in order to access your content, my feeling is that > you're barking up wrong digital trees. > > Gary > >> Film Ideas is conducting a little research too. We have developed a >> streaming video system and are now considering providing the software free >> to others. We believe it is in the best interest of institutions (and >> independent producers) to have content choice and Film Ideas is trying to >> facilitate that. >> >> We are seeking the collective wisdom of the list serve to gauge if this >> idea has merit. Interested institutions would be able to modify the >> source code and brand the system to best suit their needs. Users can set >> up channels by colleges, departments or any way they choose. Subjects and >> all resources are fully customizable. It is friendly to use and easy to >> administer. >> >> You can evaluate the software by reviewing our application, at >> www.fichannels.com. Select the free trial, explore the capabilities, and >> then let us know what you think. >> >> Thanks, >> Bob >> >> Robert A. Norris >> Managing Director >> Film Ideas, Inc. >> Phone: (847) 419-0255 >> Email: b...@filmideas.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Free Streaming Software
Film Ideas is conducting a little research too. We have developed a streaming video system and are now considering providing the software free to others. We believe it is in the best interest of institutions (and independent producers) to have content choice and Film Ideas is trying to facilitate that. We are seeking the collective wisdom of the list serve to gauge if this idea has merit. Interested institutions would be able to modify the source code and brand the system to best suit their needs. Users can set up channels by colleges, departments or any way they choose. Subjects and all resources are fully customizable. It is friendly to use and easy to administer. You can evaluate the software by reviewing our application, at www.fichannels.com. Select the free trial, explore the capabilities, and then let us know what you think. Thanks, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:06 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > 1. Re: Wholesalers used by academic librarians? (Randal Baier) > 2. Re: Wholesalers used by academic librarians? (Music Hunter) > 3. Re: Wholesalers used by academic librarians? (Helen P. Mack) > 4. Re: Wholesalers used by academic librarians? (Hutchison, Jane) VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Waste Land - PPR?
I believe Arthouse Films landed it and would be able to grant PPR. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com "The military wants a system that protects its policies and privileges." Benazir Bhutto Political Assassination On May 16, 2011, at 11:13 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 2. Waste Land - PPR? (Feinland, Robin) > > > From: "Feinland, Robin" > Date: May 16, 2011 11:13:25 AM CDT > To: > Subject: [Videolib] Waste Land - PPR? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi all, > > Happy Monday. > > Does anyone happen to know an educational distributor for the recent Academy > Award nominated documentary, Waste Land, that might sell it with PPR? > Robin G. Feinland > Media Resources Specialist > Kresge Library Media Center, > Lesley University > Cambridge, MA > Phone: 617-349-8863 > email: feinl...@lesley.edu > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Licensing issue - First Notice
Janice, I think any distributors reading this string got/are getting a good education. The National Media Market is currently working on the professional development sessions for the next conference. Copyright issues may be included. I'll recommend that pricing be included in the agenda if the session happens. Regards, Bob Norris Film Ideas On May 5, 2011, at 2:51 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > 4. Re: Licensing issue - First Notice (jwoo) > > From: jwoo > Date: May 5, 2011 2:51:26 PM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Cc: RG FIlms , jcon...@berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Licensing issue - First Notice > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Gary, > > Thanks for speaking on behalf of us librarians. > > I wish there were a way to educate filmmakers and film distributors about not > only the legalities, but also the realities, of pricing for the library > market. > > It's simple accounting: libraries can make more films accessible to their > patrons if the cost of the videos is low. If the cost is high, our budgets > will accommodate far fewer purchases. So if a video is expensive, it better > be a stand out. > > It's also a matter of what the market will bear. If libraries continue to > pay $250 for a dvd instead of $29, why wouldn't sellers ask us for the higher > price? > > And, yes, I've heard the song about filmmakers and distributors having to > make a living, but don't we all? Libraries shouldn't be responsible for > subsidizing vendors; making resources available to our patrons is what we're > about. > > Regards, > Janice Woo > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] DVD R
It is possible to have a high quality, chaptered DVD R recording. If the producer is starting with a high quality digital file, the DVD R will be the same quality as a standard DVD. Producers/distributors use DVD R's for low sales volume titles because they can make a single copy on a DVD R. The minimum production run of a standard DVD is typically 1,000 units or more. The downside is DVD R's do not play properly in all DVD players, especially older players. Also there is no protective coating on the recorded side of a DVD R so the disc scratches easier. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. > 2. Fw: DVD R (lisa.flanzra...@qc.cuny.edu) >From: "Maria Soares" VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Import NTSC Region 4?
Region 4 is Mexico, Central and South America. Those countries for the most part use NTSC. So the DVD is probably pure NTSC. However, many US DVD players will have difficulty playing the disc if it has the region 4 code on it. It should play in a computer. Hope that helps, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. On Apr 15, 2011, at 10:18 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Import NTSC Region 4? (Mandel, Debra) > > From: "Mandel, Debra" > Date: April 15, 2011 10:18:15 AM CDT > To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu" > Subject: [Videolib] Import NTSC Region 4? > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > > Hi- > > Our Acquisitions staff is uncertain that this film, linked below, is "pure" > NTSC since it says "Import NTSC Region 4 ," but I think that means this was > transferred from PAL into NTSC, since it says NTSC on the bottom of this. > Have you seen that wording before? > > > http://www.amazon.com/Muerte-Burocrata-Gutierrez-English-subtitles/dp/B000YNGTZ8/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1302880372&sr=1-1 > > Thanks, > Debra > > Debra H. Mandel, > Head, Digital Media Design Studio > Northeastern University Libraries > 200 Snell Library > 360 Huntington Ave. > Boston, MA 02115 > 617.373.4902 > 617.373.5409 fax > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] cumulative top DVD rentals lists
Home Media Magazine publishes top 20 rentals and top 20 sellers on a weekly basis. They may be able to supply you a cumulative number. They are pretty helpful. Billy Gil is the web editor. Perhaps he could help or recommend someone else. His email is b...@questex.com. Regards, Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:25 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > From: "Diane Elizabeth Sybeldon" > Date: January 6, 2011 5:00:30 PM CST > To: "VideoLib" > Subject: [Videolib] cumulative top DVD rentals lists > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Hi there: > > Can anyone recommend a source that publishes cumulative Top DVD Rentals lists? > > > > The only online source I found is IMDB’s - which includes the information > > but isn’t cumulative, and is viewable only week by week, back to 1998. > > Box Office Mojo didn’t seem to have what I wanted either. > > > > A faculty member is looking for a cumulative measure of popularity. > > I’ve referred him to a good Box Office list, but he would like more than > ticket sales. > > > > He is also interested in Variety’s “All-Time Film Rental Champs” lists, > > but it appears that the term “film rental” in this case refers to the cost > exhibitors > > pay to rent films from distributors, not video rental. > > Aside from that, does anyone know if these lists are still published? > > > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > And Happy New Year! > > Diane > > > > > > Diane Sybeldon > > Fine and Performing Arts and Media Librarian > > Wayne State University Library System > > Detroit, Michigan 48202 > > > > Office: 1210 Undergraduate Library > > Phone: 313-577-4480 > > Fax: 313-577-5265 > > email: ac7...@wayne.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] [Videonews] Here we go again...
Wouldn't it be legal for a professor to purchase a DVD with home video rights, even though institutional pricing is listed too, and then sell the DVD to the university under the first-sale-doctrine? The DVD retains the original home video rights granted but the professor could use the DVD in the classroom under the face-to-face exemption assuming it was a nonprofit university and content directly relates to what is being taught. Chris is not looking for PPR anyway. This coming from a distributor that does not have tiered pricing. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. > From: ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > Date: January 3, 2011 2:49:15 PM CST > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] [Videonews] Here we go again... > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Well, Judy...it sucks, put it isn't illegal, as far as I'm aware. > > There continues to be a fair amount of confusion about the > PPR/institutional pricing gambit... Here's the deal: > > Some distributors charge higher prices to institutions (or others) because > they bundle items in their catalogs with PPR. In some cases, the same > titles may also be available without PPR on the home video market > (however, rarely are titles offered without PPR via the distributor's web > site). > > Some distributors charge higher prices to institutions because...well, > because they feel they can get the $$$ out of them. Some of these folks > confuse things by contending that PPR are required for ALL institutional > uses (including classroom use)--a false contention, of course. > > The bottom line is, vendors can charge whatever it wants, at whatever > price, to whomever they want, and under whichever conditions of use it > wishes: the transaction is commercial and contractual. Hell, they can > charge higher prices to hazel-eyed, red-haired users if they want... > > Now, that said: If a vendor chooses to put its wares into home video > distribution, they really have no say about who buys--particularly if the > fulfillment is by a third party such as amazon. We have had instances > here in which we've attempted to score home video stuff via amazon, only > to be informed that, as an institution, we have to pay more (in these > cases, fulfillment is via the vendor). Can't do much about it. > > gary handman VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Introducing new exhibitors at the National Media Market
If you are a history buff and thinking about going to the Truman Presidential Library, you should also consider the WW I museum. It is the only one in the US and highly recommended by one of the new NMM exhibitors, Eleventh Day. http://www.theworldwar.org/s/110/new/index_community.aspx Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Re: [Videolib] Doing Business in China?
Film Ideas recently released East & West, which explores how culture influences how the brain functions and effects decision making and communication. You can get more information and view an online preview at www.filmideas.com/?film=ews. Don't hesitate to contact me with any questions. Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com www.FIChannels.com Please print responsibly.VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
[Videolib] Appeal to producers and distributers on captioning
You can check Film Ideas off as being in complete agreement. We view it as doing the right thing. And as Scott says, there is little chance for infringement if someone is taking the time to seek permission. The only thing we request is a copy of the closed captioned version so we can then make it available to others. It is a win, win for everyone. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com Please print responsibly. On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:14 AM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu wrote: > > From: Scott Spicer > Date: August 12, 2010 2:16:39 AM CDT > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > Subject: [Videolib] Appeal to producers and distributers on captioning.. > Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > > Dear producer - distributer friends, > > I generally find rants to be counterproductive and I am still earning a soap > box to stand on, but there is a practice that I need to call out as > particularly odious. This past year, the Disability Services Department on > my campus has started a unit that will occasionally caption videos for > hearing impaired students, when a captioned copy does not exist on the > market. They are very careful with fair use interpretation, and for better > or worse at least with respect to accessibility (I'm not a legal expert on > ADA, though this purpose does not appear to be exempted under DMCA), they > always seek permission from the rights holder before transcoding and > captioning the material. In addition, it is my understanding that they > receive legally acquired video (usually DVD) from multiple sources, including > faculty, departments, and the library for class screening use. > > From my discussion with a Disability Services representative, on at least > four separate occasions since they started this year, upon request, the > rights holder came back and required they demonstrate that the material was > purchased at the academic rate before they would give permission for this > unit to caption the film. I will acknowledge that I do not have the > specific details for each of these cases, as this is another unit of the > university (though I have been involved at the tail end twice - read on). I > wasn't on debate team, so I'll go one further and even concede that maybe > there were some mitigating factors that I am unaware of. I also understand > that producers/distributers may have contractual obligations regarding > release of reproduction rights, and/or policies in place to insure a copy was > indeed, legally acquired before granting them. I get it, really I do. > > That said, I would like to place a broad logic appeal to > producers/distributers for a moment to please take off your skeptical hat > when a campus Disability Services unit requests permission to caption a film. > This is a time intensive process, and certainly not a gateway to wholesale > infringement (would they contact you or even me if they were so inclined?). > Furthermore, universal access is not a privilege, it is a right. These > students should not be held hostage because a unit on campus designed to help > people, [that in this case] does not even acquire media, is unable to > demonstrate academic purchase only to then have to wait while other campus > units scramble to determine who is responsible for what, and who is going to > fund additional (otherwise unnecessary) permissions. I've participated in > this senseless exercise once already 2 months ago, and now need to once again. > > Finally, it should go without saying that all new productions, whether it be > VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, View-Master stereoscope, or streaming needs to be > captioned. My library has yet to adopt this rule as formal collection > development criteria, and as I have limited oversight over single title > purchases it may not be. However, I can assure you going forward, that any > vendors looking to sell us streaming video packages will be at a severe > disadvantage if this option is not included with every title, unless the > content is absolutely necessary. > > Rant over, soap box returned, thank you for your time. > > Best, > Scott Spicer > > > Media Outreach and Learning Spaces Librarian > Physical Sciences and Engineering > University of Minnesota Libraries > 341 Walter Library 612.626.0629 > Media Services: http://lib.umn.edu/media > SMART: http://smart.umn.edu VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video produce
Re: [Videolib] Your help requested
Phoenix Learning Group purchased Coronet Films (at the time Coronet/MTI Films) and Barr Films so titles from these companies are still available. Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. 308 North Wolf Road Wheeling, IL 60090 Phone: (847) 419-0255 Fax:(847) 419-8933 Email: b...@filmideas.com Web:www.filmideas.com Please print responsibly. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
