Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-17 Thread Tony Mechelynck

On 16/06/11 21:33, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Koltaibkolta...@gmail.com  wrote:

Also, the result of :version is:
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Jul  5 2010 16:33:43)
Included patches: 1-127, 257
Compiled by 'http://www.opensuse.org/'
Is this out of date? What is the easiest way to update?


I don't think we've responded to this, yet.

Yes, this is out of date. The latest is 7.3.219, and a lot of new
features have been added (to Vim itself as well as to 2html). Some of
my other answers (especially the options which might affect speed)
depend on this recent version of 2html.

The easiest way, would be if your Linux distribution has up-to-date
packages in their repository. But often these are fairly out of date.
Check the repository first, but failing that, you can compile Vim
yourself fairly easily. The source code is available through Mercurial
from:

http://code.google.com/p/vim

There should be a readme there that says how to compile (it's pretty
standard). If you get stuck you can google for building Vim or check
the wiki:

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Building_Vim



The current Vim in the openSUSE distribution is 7.3.62 which is still a 
lot behind the times.


I recommend compiling your own, see
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Getting_the_Vim_source_with_Mercurial
http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/vim/compunix.htm


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-16 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, the result of :version is:
 VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Jul  5 2010 16:33:43)
 Included patches: 1-127, 257
 Compiled by 'http://www.opensuse.org/'
 Is this out of date? What is the easiest way to update?

I don't think we've responded to this, yet.

Yes, this is out of date. The latest is 7.3.219, and a lot of new
features have been added (to Vim itself as well as to 2html). Some of
my other answers (especially the options which might affect speed)
depend on this recent version of 2html.

The easiest way, would be if your Linux distribution has up-to-date
packages in their repository. But often these are fairly out of date.
Check the repository first, but failing that, you can compile Vim
yourself fairly easily. The source code is available through Mercurial
from:

http://code.google.com/p/vim

There should be a readme there that says how to compile (it's pretty
standard). If you get stuck you can google for building Vim or check
the wiki:

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Building_Vim

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-16 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Great thanks for that.

Do you have any idea how I am get past the prompt to press enter with the last 
command you suggested? Why is it happening?

Here is the prompt again:

$ HOME=/path/to/vimfiles/ vim -N -u /path/to/config.vim -i NONE --noplugin -c 
'runtime syntax/2html.vim' -c 'xa' {file}
cookies.php.html [New File]
Press ENTER or type command to continue

With config.vim:

filetype on
runtime colors/simplewhite.vim
colorscheme simplewhite
set number
syntax on
runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim

Thanks again

On Jun 16, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, the result of :version is:
 VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Jul  5 2010 16:33:43)
 Included patches: 1-127, 257
 Compiled by 'http://www.opensuse.org/'
 Is this out of date? What is the easiest way to update?
 
 I don't think we've responded to this, yet.
 
 Yes, this is out of date. The latest is 7.3.219, and a lot of new
 features have been added (to Vim itself as well as to 2html). Some of
 my other answers (especially the options which might affect speed)
 depend on this recent version of 2html.
 
 The easiest way, would be if your Linux distribution has up-to-date
 packages in their repository. But often these are fairly out of date.
 Check the repository first, but failing that, you can compile Vim
 yourself fairly easily. The source code is available through Mercurial
 from:
 
 http://code.google.com/p/vim
 
 There should be a readme there that says how to compile (it's pretty
 standard). If you get stuck you can google for building Vim or check
 the wiki:
 
 http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Building_Vim
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-16 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you have any idea how I am get past the prompt to press enter with the 
 last command you suggested? Why is it happening?

 Here is the prompt again:

 $ HOME=/path/to/vimfiles/ vim -N -u /path/to/config.vim -i NONE --noplugin -c 
 'runtime syntax/2html.vim' -c 'xa' {file}
 cookies.php.html [New File]
 Press ENTER or type command to continue



Try some of the hints here:

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Press_enter_to_continue

Setting nomore in your config.vim file might help as well.

I would also recommend some other options pointed out by Zyx,
especially undolevels=0 and nobackup, for performance reasons.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-16 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Will do. Thanks. I was meaning to add those extra options once I got it working 
with the minimums.

Thanks everyone for all the help!

On Jun 16, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you have any idea how I am get past the prompt to press enter with the 
 last command you suggested? Why is it happening?
 
 Here is the prompt again:
 
 $ HOME=/path/to/vimfiles/ vim -N -u /path/to/config.vim -i NONE --noplugin 
 -c 'runtime syntax/2html.vim' -c 'xa' {file}
 cookies.php.html [New File]
 Press ENTER or type command to continue
 
 
 
 Try some of the hints here:
 
 http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Press_enter_to_continue
 
 Setting nomore in your config.vim file might help as well.
 
 I would also recommend some other options pointed out by Zyx,
 especially undolevels=0 and nobackup, for performance reasons.
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Ben Fritz


On Jun 14, 11:00 pm, Andy Spencer andy753...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2011-06-14 16:23, Benjamin Koltai wrote:

  I am currently using the command:

  HOME=#{ CONFIG.paths.lib_dir }/vimfiles/ vi -n -X '+runtime!
  syntax/2html.vim' '+xa' filename

 Using '+runtime! syntax/2html.vim' is acting funny on my computer.
 I haven't looked into it, but it's generating html for filename, and
 then generating another html for filename.html and calling that one
 filename.html.html.. Using '+runtime' instead of '+runtime!' or just
 using +TOhtml seems to fix it..

On my system, I have a ~/.vim/syntax/2html.vim, and also the default
$VIMRUNTIME/syntax/2html.vim. When I use +runtime! syntax/2html.vim
I see what you describe, as I would expect, because the '!' in the
runtime command says source all files found. When I omit the '!' it
works as intended, and only does a single conversion.


  I tried -e but I do not get the syntax highlighting with that option.

 You can force ex to use syntax highlighting with a few tricks. You'll probably
 need to run it in screen if it's being run by a daemon, and you'll need to
 force the value of 'term' in vimrc. The gist of the command I use is:

   HOME=/home/andy screen -D -m ex -nXZ -i NONE -u vimrc '+sil! TOhtml' ...


I have not tested 2html with Vim in ex mode. I would not be surprised
if there are some problems with this. If it works, that's pretty cool!
Do let me know if you see problems running 2html in ex mode, I imagine
that might speed things up some.

 You can also speed it up a little but by using:

   let g:html_no_progress = 1


Other options which might speed things up slightly (if their effects
are acceptable):

g:html_ignore_folding = 1 or g:html_dynamic_folds = 0 (otherwise Vim
scans every line for fold information, twice, before starting the
conversion)

g:html_use_encoding = UTF-8 (or whatever encoding you desire) to
avoid Vim needing to determine the encoding to use (probably VERY
minor savings, but it can also avoid a conversion on write if the
specified encoding matches your 'encoding' setting)

g:html_expand_tabs = 0 (probably very minor savings, but this will
prevent Vim from doing processing on tab characters to replace them
with spaces; mostly this is useful if you do NOT use line numbers or a
fold column in the generated output)

More savings can be had by making sure that folding (especially syntax-
based folding) is disabled, especially for HTML files. Disabling
syntax completely for HTML files will also speed things up. Maybe
after loading the file to convert you can set the eventignore option
to disable filetype and syntax events from triggering on the HTML file
being generated.

 For reference, the full command I use and the vimrc are posted here:
   -http://vpaste.net/index.cgi?ft=sh
   -http://vpaste.net/vimrc?ft=vim


I notice that these references use the dynamic_folds option, but there
are no folds in the document. See my note above, you could probably
make this faster by setting the ignore_folding option!

Some of these options I suggest above were added/augmented in later
versions of the TOhtml plugin than you are using. I think that v9 is
currently in the Hg repository, and I've given v10 to Bram, but you're
still using v6 according to the meta tags in the generated output.

Also note the html_use_encoding option takes an IANA name (i.e. UTF-8
rather than utf8). Perhaps I should add an auto-correction for
that...I'll think about it.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Ben Fritz


On Jun 14, 3:23 pm, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to html.


What sort of syntax highlighting are you using for your plain text
files? By default plain text receives no syntax highlighting.
TOhtml's primary purpose is to put the syntax-highlighting colors into
the generated HTML.


 Does the file have to load in order for it to get highlighted?


Yes, a file is only syntax highlighted if Vim has loaded it. Perhaps
if you know files will always be of a certain type, you could speed
things along by turning off filetype/syntax detection and sourcing the
correct scripts yourself (maybe in file-extension based autocmds even)
to avoid the filetype detection logic. This would make it easier to
implement the turn off syntax highlighting for HTML I suggested in
my previous response as well.

 I also saw something online about a vim client server? Would that be 
 something that would allow me to keep a vim instance running and send files 
 to be converted to that server? Would that speed things up?


If you only ever convert 1 file at a time, this will probably speed
things up if done correctly, because Vim will not need to spend time
starting up. You can use the --startuptime option to Vim a few times
to see if the savings will be worth it.

If you could potentially be converting multiple files at once (you say
you get multiple requests at once), then a single Vim instance will
become a bottleneck. Since Vim is not multi-threaded, it must process
each file one at a time. You could set up multipe always running
Vims to work around this, but then you'd need some logic outside of
Vim to select the correct one or spawn a new one if needed.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Thanks for all the help so far.

See below for my responses.

On Jun 15, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Ben Fritz wrote:

 
 
 On Jun 14, 3:23 pm, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to html.
 
 
 What sort of syntax highlighting are you using for your plain text
 files? By default plain text receives no syntax highlighting.
 TOhtml's primary purpose is to put the syntax-highlighting colors into
 the generated HTML.

I am using vim to syntax highlight various file type extensions. My 
classification of a file as plain text is a misnomer, I meant files that are 
just plain text such as .c, .h, .rb...

TOhtml has been doing what I want.
 
 
 Does the file have to load in order for it to get highlighted?
 
 
 Yes, a file is only syntax highlighted if Vim has loaded it. Perhaps
 if you know files will always be of a certain type, you could speed
 things along by turning off filetype/syntax detection and sourcing the
 correct scripts yourself (maybe in file-extension based autocmds even)
 to avoid the filetype detection logic. This would make it easier to
 implement the turn off syntax highlighting for HTML I suggested in
 my previous response as well.

One of the main reasons I am using vim is so that I can let it auto-detect the 
type of file that it is opening and apply the correct syntax highlighting. If 
this is the part that is taking a while (which is understandable) than I will 
just have to deal with it, because it is the main reason why I am using vim to 
do this conversion.

 
 I also saw something online about a vim client server? Would that be 
 something that would allow me to keep a vim instance running and send files 
 to be converted to that server? Would that speed things up?
 
 
 If you only ever convert 1 file at a time, this will probably speed
 things up if done correctly, because Vim will not need to spend time
 starting up. You can use the --startuptime option to Vim a few times
 to see if the savings will be worth it.

I would like to see this metric but could not get the --startuptime option to 
be recognized:

vim --startuptime file

I also looked in the help for startuptime and in the man page, and couldn't 
find such a thing? What am I missing?

 
 If you could potentially be converting multiple files at once (you say
 you get multiple requests at once), then a single Vim instance will
 become a bottleneck. Since Vim is not multi-threaded, it must process
 each file one at a time. You could set up multipe always running
 Vims to work around this, but then you'd need some logic outside of
 Vim to select the correct one or spawn a new one if needed.

Ok. That is good to know that Vim is not multi-threaded. I am still a little 
unclear on what the benefits of using a client server are? Is it so that you 
don't have to start up a single vim instance every time and can just leave vim 
running? Also, is there any limit on how many vim instances I can have running 
at one time? I believe my current system just start a new vim instance for 
every file that it gets. The instance only lasts as long as it takes to open 
the file, highlight it, and close it.

It is starting to sound like the bottleneck might be the syntax detection and 
actual coloring of the document. If this is the case than I can deal with it 
because it is the main feature I am after. I guess I was just wondering if 
there might be other plugins/initializers that might be running that I could 
squash to save time. I have tried running vim with -V, but the output is a 
little cryptic. I do see that it sources files such as /usr/share/vim/... and I 
am not sure if those files are required for what I am trying to do or not?

Thanks again for all the suggestions!

Benji
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ben Fritz fritzophre...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can also speed it up a little but by using:

   let g:html_no_progress = 1


 Other options which might speed things up slightly (if their effects
 are acceptable):

 g:html_ignore_folding = 1 or g:html_dynamic_folds = 0 (otherwise Vim
 scans every line for fold information, twice, before starting the
 conversion)

 g:html_use_encoding = UTF-8 (or whatever encoding you desire) to
 avoid Vim needing to determine the encoding to use (probably VERY
 minor savings, but it can also avoid a conversion on write if the
 specified encoding matches your 'encoding' setting)

 g:html_expand_tabs = 0 (probably very minor savings, but this will
 prevent Vim from doing processing on tab characters to replace them
 with spaces; mostly this is useful if you do NOT use line numbers or a
 fold column in the generated output)



One more to try, if you don't care about conceal support:

g:html_ignore_conceal = 1

This will eliminate at least one check per syntax item, and I suspect
(but have not verified) that the inner loop for non-concealed items
(always used with ignore_conceal set) is faster than for concealed
items. But again, this is probably minor savings. The biggest savings
will probably be from the html_no_progress option, and from disabling
syntax highlighting on the generated HTML output.

I'm interested to learn what you end up with. I thought a few times
about a use case like this, but decided it was unlikely because TOhtml
is pretty slow for big files.

Also note, Zyx has a plugin very similar to 2html, with a slightly
expanded feature set, several possible output formats, and probably a
very different implementation. If you do go with a Vim method, you can
try it out. I don't think there's been very much comparison done
between the two, it could be faster (or it could be slower, I really
have no idea).

http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3113

Also, I have an item on my TODO list to allow the HTML output to use
an external CSS file. My goal is that this external file can be
generated just once and then used over and over, and that by not
processing the CSS every time additional speed increases will be
possible. I do not have an ETA on this feature, however; it has mostly
stalled in the design stage until I find time to work on it again. If
this is interesting enough I can probably put some other features on
hold which I had planned on getting to first (automatic font
detection, and uncopyable regions for things like line number and the
fold column).

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to see this metric but could not get the --startuptime option to 
 be recognized:

 vim --startuptime file

 I also looked in the help for startuptime and in the man page, and couldn't 
 find such a thing? What am I missing?

Possibly your Vim was not compiled with this option. It's part of a
normal build thogh, and it's missing from your runtime help files,
so more likely you're just using an old version of Vim in general.
What are the first few lines of :version output?


 Ok. That is good to know that Vim is not multi-threaded. I am still a little 
 unclear on what the benefits of using a client server are?
 Is it so that you don't have to start up a single vim instance every time and 
 can just leave vim running?

The main benefit is so you can use the same Vim for everything. It's
very useful if you're actually using Vim for editing and you want to
just work in one instance instead of finding the right one for every
file you're working on. It lets you launch new files in the same Vim
using the shell. It also allows for some interesting inter-process
communication, including using the shell to do background tasks in
Vim, even though Vim by itself is single-threaded.

 Also, is there any limit on how many vim instances I can have running at one 
 time?

I don't think so, just the extra processor and memory it would incur.
Your method of closing each Vim instance when done also has the
benefit that you don't need to worry about resources Vim keeps around
for each buffer (even when that buffer is no longer shown). It will
take a little extra logic (probably just a :bwipeout command at the
end) to work with a single Vim instance.


 It is starting to sound like the bottleneck might be the syntax detection and 
 actual coloring of the document. If this is the case than I can deal with it 
 because it is the main feature I am after. I guess I was just wondering if 
 there might be other plugins/initializers that might be running that I could 
 squash to save time. I have tried running vim with -V, but the output is a 
 little cryptic. I do see that it sources files such as /usr/share/vim/... and 
 I am not sure if those files are required for what I am trying to do or not?


When converting from the command line, this works for me:

vim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd filetype on --cmd syntax on +runtime
plugin/TOhtml.vim +runtime syntax/2html.vim {file name}

This disables ALL plugins and customizations, then specifically
enables syntax highlight and TOhtml.

I didn't realize I needed to source the plugin file before running
2html.vim...that is probably something for me to fix. I think it's
just used for a meta tag, though.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Hi Ben,

Thank you so much for all the help with this. I really appreciate it.

I ran the following command: 

HOME=/path/to//directory/with/vimrc/ vim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd filetype on 
--cmd syntax on +runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim +runtime syntax/2html.vim 
file

This opened a terminal vim window with file and the html genreated from that 
file. In the vim window that opened, my ~/.vimrc seemed to be applied, but when 
I did :xa and saved both files, and opened the new file.html, it seems that 
the colorscheme set in the vimrc in the path set to home (not my ~/.vimrc) were 
applied, which is great!! 

I feel that I am very close to what I want to achieve, I just have a few more 
questions (because I am still very new to Vim and do not fully understand 
everything yet, so please excuse my noobing):

1. I have set number in the vimrc in the specificed HOME path but the 
resulting HTML did not have line number. What am I doing wrong?
2. Is there any way to include a command into the above command line to tell 
vim to save and quite so that it doesn't open the actual vim session but just 
saves the generated html?

Here is the vimrc I have in that directory. Am I missing any of the options you 
suggested I add to get things moving faster? Do I have any wrong? Any others 
you might suggest?

Also, the result of :version is:

VIM - Vi IMproved 7.2 (2008 Aug 9, compiled Jul  5 2010 16:33:43)
Included patches: 1-127, 257
Compiled by 'http://www.opensuse.org/'

Is this out of date? What is the easiest way to update?

BTW, this plugin is AWESOME!! Thanks a ton for doing it and being so helpful in 
using it. It is really great stuff!

Benji


On Jun 15, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I would like to see this metric but could not get the --startuptime option 
 to be recognized:
 
 vim --startuptime file
 
 I also looked in the help for startuptime and in the man page, and couldn't 
 find such a thing? What am I missing?
 
 Possibly your Vim was not compiled with this option. It's part of a
 normal build thogh, and it's missing from your runtime help files,
 so more likely you're just using an old version of Vim in general.
 What are the first few lines of :version output?
 
 
 Ok. That is good to know that Vim is not multi-threaded. I am still a little 
 unclear on what the benefits of using a client server are?
 Is it so that you don't have to start up a single vim instance every time 
 and can just leave vim running?
 
 The main benefit is so you can use the same Vim for everything. It's
 very useful if you're actually using Vim for editing and you want to
 just work in one instance instead of finding the right one for every
 file you're working on. It lets you launch new files in the same Vim
 using the shell. It also allows for some interesting inter-process
 communication, including using the shell to do background tasks in
 Vim, even though Vim by itself is single-threaded.
 
 Also, is there any limit on how many vim instances I can have running at one 
 time?
 
 I don't think so, just the extra processor and memory it would incur.
 Your method of closing each Vim instance when done also has the
 benefit that you don't need to worry about resources Vim keeps around
 for each buffer (even when that buffer is no longer shown). It will
 take a little extra logic (probably just a :bwipeout command at the
 end) to work with a single Vim instance.
 
 
 It is starting to sound like the bottleneck might be the syntax detection 
 and actual coloring of the document. If this is the case than I can deal 
 with it because it is the main feature I am after. I guess I was just 
 wondering if there might be other plugins/initializers that might be running 
 that I could squash to save time. I have tried running vim with -V, but the 
 output is a little cryptic. I do see that it sources files such as 
 /usr/share/vim/... and I am not sure if those files are required for what I 
 am trying to do or not?
 
 
 When converting from the command line, this works for me:
 
 vim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd filetype on --cmd syntax on +runtime
 plugin/TOhtml.vim +runtime syntax/2html.vim {file name}
 
 This disables ALL plugins and customizations, then specifically
 enables syntax highlight and TOhtml.
 
 I didn't realize I needed to source the plugin file before running
 2html.vim...that is probably something for me to fix. I think it's
 just used for a meta tag, though.
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread ZyX
Reply to message «Re: 2html optimization», 
sent 20:14:08 15 June 2011, Wednesday
by Benjamin Fritz:

 Also, I have an item on my TODO list to allow the HTML output to use
 an external CSS file. My goal is that this external file can be
 generated just once and then used over and over, and that by not
 processing the CSS every time additional speed increases will be
 possible. I do not have an ETA on this feature, however; it has mostly
 stalled in the design stage until I find time to work on it again. If
 this is interesting enough I can probably put some other features on
 hold which I had planned on getting to first (automatic font
 detection, and uncopyable regions for things like line number and the
 fold column).
If I am not mistaking, CSS is generated only once for each highlighting in both 
plugins, so I guess it will save almost no time. One thing you can do is to 
make 
a cache that persists across subsequent TOhtml runs like I do (though I end 
with 
file containing CSS items for all unique highlightings of all previous files, 
no 
matter whether they are used in current file or not. It is almost nothing 
compared to body, so I don't care), this will save more time for this case.

By the way, I noticed that TOhtml creates links out of things like 
`http://www.rsyslog.com'. My plugin does not (and won't, it will only create 
links for tags). Can this be turned off so that comparison will be more fair?

Original message:
 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Ben Fritz fritzophre...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can also speed it up a little but by using:
  
let g:html_no_progress = 1
  
  Other options which might speed things up slightly (if their effects
  are acceptable):
  
  g:html_ignore_folding = 1 or g:html_dynamic_folds = 0 (otherwise Vim
  scans every line for fold information, twice, before starting the
  conversion)
  
  g:html_use_encoding = UTF-8 (or whatever encoding you desire) to
  avoid Vim needing to determine the encoding to use (probably VERY
  minor savings, but it can also avoid a conversion on write if the
  specified encoding matches your 'encoding' setting)
  
  g:html_expand_tabs = 0 (probably very minor savings, but this will
  prevent Vim from doing processing on tab characters to replace them
  with spaces; mostly this is useful if you do NOT use line numbers or a
  fold column in the generated output)
 
 One more to try, if you don't care about conceal support:
 
 g:html_ignore_conceal = 1
 
 This will eliminate at least one check per syntax item, and I suspect
 (but have not verified) that the inner loop for non-concealed items
 (always used with ignore_conceal set) is faster than for concealed
 items. But again, this is probably minor savings. The biggest savings
 will probably be from the html_no_progress option, and from disabling
 syntax highlighting on the generated HTML output.
 
 I'm interested to learn what you end up with. I thought a few times
 about a use case like this, but decided it was unlikely because TOhtml
 is pretty slow for big files.
 
 Also note, Zyx has a plugin very similar to 2html, with a slightly
 expanded feature set, several possible output formats, and probably a
 very different implementation. If you do go with a Vim method, you can
 try it out. I don't think there's been very much comparison done
 between the two, it could be faster (or it could be slower, I really
 have no idea).
 
 http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3113
 
 Also, I have an item on my TODO list to allow the HTML output to use
 an external CSS file. My goal is that this external file can be
 generated just once and then used over and over, and that by not
 processing the CSS every time additional speed increases will be
 possible. I do not have an ETA on this feature, however; it has mostly
 stalled in the design stage until I find time to work on it again. If
 this is interesting enough I can probably put some other features on
 hold which I had planned on getting to first (automatic font
 detection, and uncopyable regions for things like line number and the
 fold column).


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Ben Fritz


On Jun 15, 1:35 pm, ZyX zyx@gmail.com wrote:

 I suggest you to use formatvim as output can be altered easier.

How do you mean? Are you referring only to the different output
formats (HTML/bbcode/etc.)?

 The reason for
 speed improvements is that I first generate a function that does formatting 
 and
 then launch it, so it does not contain any if's which conditions are known to 
 be
 false during generating html.

That's a VERY interesting idea. Are you saying you look at all the
options ahead of parsing, then generate a function on the fly which
will be different each time according to which options were set, so
that no option checking is needed in the acutal parsing? Or do I
misunderstand?

Sometime I should look at enhancing the performance of TOhtml,
apparently.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread ZyX
Reply to message «Re: 2html optimization», 
sent 22:59:48 15 June 2011, Wednesday
by Ben Fritz:

  I suggest you to use formatvim as output can be altered easier.
 
 How do you mean? Are you referring only to the different output
 formats (HTML/bbcode/etc.)?
Everything is written in documentation. These formats are just dictionaries 
(mostly {key : string}), you can write your own format easily by copying one of 
them, replacing all script-local variables (there are not much, 
bbcode-unixforum 
contains none, for example) with global ones and, altering what you want to 
alter and then using

execute frawor#Setup('0.0', {'plugin/format': '3.0'})
...
call s:_f.format.add('your_format_name', s:format_dictionary)
After then you can use
Format format your_format_name
. It is untested though: all existing defined formats are defined in s:formats 
dictionary directly, not added by format.add feature.

When compiling some keys are added to the formatter function as plain strings, 
some should be added as expressions (it is in TODO), others are function calls 
(so there is more then one function compiled). (Really now all are compiled to 
functions, but it may appear that resulting functions are not used.)

 That's a VERY interesting idea. Are you saying you look at all the
 options ahead of parsing, then generate a function on the fly which
 will be different each time according to which options were set, so
 that no option checking is needed in the acutal parsing? Or do I
 misunderstand?
That's it. I have a large (1700 lines) function that mostly only compiles 
another large function: historically I took (rewritten with some changes) large 
parts of code from TOhtml (without splitting into functions) then partly put it 
into `extend(formatfunction, [{code}])' constructs, so now it needs huge 
refactoring and I have no idea where to start.

Note that in functions compiled from format dictionary option checking still 
retains, but it is not much needed really.

 Sometime I should look at enhancing the performance of TOhtml,
 apparently.
I know only two approaches here that may significantly improve perfomance:
1. construct function as I do
2. use language with faster implementation (python, for example). Don't know 
though what how large is the drawback for things like vim.eval(). Will be a 
problem if vim-100500.0 will migrate to LLVM-jit implementation of vimscript.

It is good if you find the third. If you do I hope it will be combineable with 
the first.

Original message:
 On Jun 15, 1:35 pm, ZyX zyx@gmail.com wrote:
  I suggest you to use formatvim as output can be altered easier.
 
 How do you mean? Are you referring only to the different output
 formats (HTML/bbcode/etc.)?
 
  The reason for
  speed improvements is that I first generate a function that does
  formatting and then launch it, so it does not contain any if's which
  conditions are known to be false during generating html.
 
 That's a VERY interesting idea. Are you saying you look at all the
 options ahead of parsing, then generate a function on the fly which
 will be different each time according to which options were set, so
 that no option checking is needed in the acutal parsing? Or do I
 misunderstand?
 
 Sometime I should look at enhancing the performance of TOhtml,
 apparently.


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:47 PM, ZyX zyx@gmail.com wrote:
 By the way, I noticed that TOhtml creates links out of things like
 `http://www.rsyslog.com'. My plugin does not (and won't, it will only create
 links for tags). Can this be turned off so that comparison will be more fair?



I had forgotten that (and keep forgetting it again and again; I'm
always surprised when I notice it in the output). I should probably
add an option to turn it off. But I doubt it takes THAT much
processing time.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 HOME=/path/to//directory/with/vimrc/ vim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd filetype
 on --cmd syntax on +runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim +runtime
 syntax/2html.vim file
 This opened a terminal vim window with file and the html genreated from
 that file. In the vim window that opened, my ~/.vimrc seemed to be applied,

The -u NONE means don't read any configuration files, including the
.vimrc so your .vimrc should not have been applied. Are you sure?
Check the output of :scriptnames.

You can add any additional commands with --cmd to take place before
the file loads, and any more with -c which take place after. These can
include sourcing scripts if needed (e.g. -c runtime
colors/pablo.vim).

 but when I did :xa and saved both files, and opened the new file.html,
 it seems that the colorscheme set in the vimrc in the path set to home (not
 my ~/.vimrc) were applied, which is great!!
 I feel that I am very close to what I want to achieve, I just have a few
 more questions (because I am still very new to Vim and do not fully
 understand everything yet, so please excuse my noobing):
 1. I have set number in the vimrc in the specificed HOME path but the
 resulting HTML did not have line number. What am I doing wrong?

It's probably not being set, because probably your .vimrc should not
actually be sourced.

 2. Is there any way to include a command into the above command line to tell
 vim to save and quite so that it doesn't open the actual vim session but
 just saves the generated html?

Sure. -c wqa or -c xa or similar, AFTER the running of the HTML conversion.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Got it. The commands now make much more sense. Thanks for all the help!

On Jun 15, 2011, at 4:35 PM, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 HOME=/path/to//directory/with/vimrc/ vim -N -u NONE -i NONE --cmd filetype
 on --cmd syntax on +runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim +runtime
 syntax/2html.vim file
 This opened a terminal vim window with file and the html genreated from
 that file. In the vim window that opened, my ~/.vimrc seemed to be applied,
 
 The -u NONE means don't read any configuration files, including the
 .vimrc so your .vimrc should not have been applied. Are you sure?
 Check the output of :scriptnames.
 
 You can add any additional commands with --cmd to take place before
 the file loads, and any more with -c which take place after. These can
 include sourcing scripts if needed (e.g. -c runtime
 colors/pablo.vim).
 
 but when I did :xa and saved both files, and opened the new file.html,
 it seems that the colorscheme set in the vimrc in the path set to home (not
 my ~/.vimrc) were applied, which is great!!
 I feel that I am very close to what I want to achieve, I just have a few
 more questions (because I am still very new to Vim and do not fully
 understand everything yet, so please excuse my noobing):
 1. I have set number in the vimrc in the specificed HOME path but the
 resulting HTML did not have line number. What am I doing wrong?
 
 It's probably not being set, because probably your .vimrc should not
 actually be sourced.
 
 2. Is there any way to include a command into the above command line to tell
 vim to save and quite so that it doesn't open the actual vim session but
 just saves the generated html?
 
 Sure. -c wqa or -c xa or similar, AFTER the running of the HTML 
 conversion.
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread ZyX
Reply to message «2html optimization», 
sent 00:23:50 16 June 2011, Thursday
by Benjamin Koltai:

 I also saw something online about a vim client server? Would that be
 something that would allow me to keep a vim instance running and send
 files to be converted to that server? Would that speed things up?
It requires X support. If you don't have it, you have to use something like 
screen instead:

screen -d -m -S vim-server-1 vim -u vimrc
screen -S vim-server-1 -X stuff $':view file\n'
screen -S vim-server-1 -X stuff $':Format format html to file.html\n'
screen -S vim-server-1 -X stuff $':bw!\n'

(this is example for my formatvim). It would speed up things a bit; more for 
formatvim, less for tohtml. You could view what vim is doing by attaching 
screen:
screen -r -S vim-server-1

 I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to html. My
 server usually has multiple requests coming in at once, so I would love to
 optimize vim to work as quickly as possible. I would love to get a better
 understanding on what the minimum requirements for doing the conversion
 are and how I can set them properly. I am currently using the command:
You need colorscheme, the whole syntax directory (and ftdetect if present) and 
files
autoload/tohtml.vim
plugin/tohtml.vim
filetype.vim (for filetype detection)

In vimrc there must be
set nocompatible viminfo= noswapfile undolevels=0 nobackup
filetype on
syntax on

See how I did tohtml testing.

Original message:
 Hi vim users,
 
 I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to html. My
 server usually has multiple requests coming in at once, so I would love to
 optimize vim to work as quickly as possible. I would love to get a better
 understanding on what the minimum requirements for doing the conversion
 are and how I can set them properly. I am currently using the command:
 
 HOME=#{ CONFIG.paths.lib_dir }/vimfiles/ vi -n -X '+runtime!
 syntax/2html.vim' '+xa' filename
 
 I have a colorscheme in .../vimfiles/.vim/colors as well as a .vimrc. I
 only need syntax highlighting and 2html. The above command works but takes
 way to long. Are there other options I should add to speed up the process?
 I tried -e but I do not get the syntax highlighting with that option.
 
 Does the file have to load in order for it to get highlighted?
 
 I also saw something online about a vim client server? Would that be
 something that would allow me to keep a vim instance running and send
 files to be converted to that server? Would that speed things up?
 
 Thanks much for any help or advice,
 
 Benji


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Benjamin Fritz fritzophre...@gmail.com wrote:
 The -u NONE means don't read any configuration files, including the
 .vimrc so your .vimrc should not have been applied. Are you sure?
 Check the output of :scriptnames.

 You can add any additional commands with --cmd to take place before
 the file loads, and any more with -c which take place after. These can
 include sourcing scripts if needed (e.g. -c runtime
 colors/pablo.vim).


Thinking about this some more, a better way to start would probably be:

vim -N -u config.vim -i NONE --noplugin {file}

This way you can put all the sourcing of scripts, turning on filetype
detection, config options, etc. into the config.vim file, and not
worry about any other plugins which might be loading.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Koltai
 Ok that does sound like a cleaner command.

I have: 

HOME=/path/to/vimfiles/ vim -N -u /path/to/config.vim -i NONE --noplugin {file}

And this is my config.vim has:

filetype on
runtime colors/simplewhite.vim
colorscheme simplewhite
set number
syntax on
runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim
runtime syntax/2html.vim

It seems to be working without including the files suggested by ZyX, but might 
I lose some syntax highlighting for certain file types?

I am also getting prompted:

file.html file.html 11L, 407C
Press ENTER or type command to continue

Is there some way to suppress this because I need the command to run without 
additional input.

Thanks

On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Benjamin Fritz wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Benjamin Fritz fritzophre...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The -u NONE means don't read any configuration files, including the
 .vimrc so your .vimrc should not have been applied. Are you sure?
 Check the output of :scriptnames.
 
 You can add any additional commands with --cmd to take place before
 the file loads, and any more with -c which take place after. These can
 include sourcing scripts if needed (e.g. -c runtime
 colors/pablo.vim).
 
 
 Thinking about this some more, a better way to start would probably be:
 
 vim -N -u config.vim -i NONE --noplugin {file}
 
 This way you can put all the sourcing of scripts, turning on filetype
 detection, config options, etc. into the config.vim file, and not
 worry about any other plugins which might be loading.
 
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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Benjamin Fritz
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 And this is my config.vim has:

 filetype on
 runtime colors/simplewhite.vim
 colorscheme simplewhite
 set number
 syntax on
 runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim

Good. I'm not 100% sure on the order, but it looks like you have a
nice minimal config.

 runtime syntax/2html.vim


This one probably ought to go on the command line to make sure it
happens after all initializations are complete and your file(s)
loaded.

 It seems to be working without including the files suggested by ZyX, but 
 might I lose some syntax highlighting for certain file types?



In addition to what you already have, ZyX suggests:

* the whole syntax directory (and ftdetect if present) and files
   -- this does not need to be sourced directly, but the filetype on
and syntax on which you have relies on their presence
* autoload/tohtml.vim
   -- this does not need to be sourced directly, it is automatically
loaded when needed by 2html.vim
* filetype.vim (for filetype detection)
   -- again, this does not need to be sourced directly, it is used by
the filetype on command.

He also suggests:

set nocompatible
   -- not needed due to your -N flag you pass into Vim, but you could
dispense with the -N if you use this.

viminfo= noswapfile undolevels=0 nobackup
   -- these options simply serve to speed Vim up in general, due to
not storing any undo information, not making a backup when saving, and
doing everything in memory instead of writing to a swap file from time
to time. They are not needed for your purposes but may help
performance.

Remember my suggestion about disabling syntax for the output HTML
file? Here's how you could do that:

autocmd BufNewFile * setl ft=

This assumes that you are creating HTML files which do not already
exist, you will need to use a different event/matching pattern if the
file could exist already.

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-06-15 08:36, Ben Fritz wrote:
 On my system, I have a ~/.vim/syntax/2html.vim, and also the default
 $VIMRUNTIME/syntax/2html.vim. When I use +runtime! syntax/2html.vim
 I see what you describe, as I would expect, because the '!' in the
 runtime command says source all files found. When I omit the '!' it
 works as intended, and only does a single conversion.

Ah, that makes sense, I was unaware that runtime! would source all the
files it finds.

 I have not tested 2html with Vim in ex mode. I would not be surprised
 if there are some problems with this. If it works, that's pretty cool!
 Do let me know if you see problems running 2html in ex mode, I imagine
 that might speed things up some.

It works for me, I think i had to specify the TERM to get syntax
highlighting to work. Without it and screen I sometimes get very simple
highlighting but not the 256 color highlighting I want.

  For reference, the full command I use and the vimrc are posted here:
    -http://vpaste.net/index.cgi?ft=sh
    -http://vpaste.net/vimrc?ft=vim
 
 I notice that these references use the dynamic_folds option, but there
 are no folds in the document. See my note above, you could probably
 make this faster by setting the ignore_folding option!

Folds aren't used by default, but you can add them. Same thing for some
of the other settings, so I have to leave a lot of the 2html features
turned on even if they're not used most of the time. For example:
  - http://vpaste.net/index.cgi?ft=sh,fdm=indent,number,expandtab

I guess I could check the value of 'foldmethod' and if it's set to
'manual' I could set 'ignore_folding'. 

 Some of these options I suggest above were added/augmented in later
 versions of the TOhtml plugin than you are using. I think that v9 is
 currently in the Hg repository, and I've given v10 to Bram, but you're
 still using v6 according to the meta tags in the generated output.

Ok, I'll have to try updating sometime.

 Also note the html_use_encoding option takes an IANA name (i.e. UTF-8
 rather than utf8). Perhaps I should add an auto-correction for
 that...I'll think about it.

You could maybe add it to the help document. I missed the part about the
equivalent html charset name. Using a real example such as UTF-8 instead
of foobar might make it a little more obvious.


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-15 Thread ZyX
Reply to message «Re: 2html optimization», 
sent 02:35:38 16 June 2011, Thursday
by Benjamin Fritz:

Just look at my configuration for tohtml and formatvim testing. It is minimal. 
You may need to add ftdetect directory and do something to collect syntax/*.vim 
from different runtime directories, but that's all.

Original message:
 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
  And this is my config.vim has:
  
  filetype on
  runtime colors/simplewhite.vim
  colorscheme simplewhite
  set number
  syntax on
  runtime plugin/TOhtml.vim
 
 Good. I'm not 100% sure on the order, but it looks like you have a
 nice minimal config.
 
  runtime syntax/2html.vim
 
 This one probably ought to go on the command line to make sure it
 happens after all initializations are complete and your file(s)
 loaded.
 
  It seems to be working without including the files suggested by ZyX, but
  might I lose some syntax highlighting for certain file types?
 
 In addition to what you already have, ZyX suggests:
 
 * the whole syntax directory (and ftdetect if present) and files
-- this does not need to be sourced directly, but the filetype on
 and syntax on which you have relies on their presence
 * autoload/tohtml.vim
-- this does not need to be sourced directly, it is automatically
 loaded when needed by 2html.vim
 * filetype.vim (for filetype detection)
-- again, this does not need to be sourced directly, it is used by
 the filetype on command.
 
 He also suggests:
 
 set nocompatible
-- not needed due to your -N flag you pass into Vim, but you could
 dispense with the -N if you use this.
 
 viminfo= noswapfile undolevels=0 nobackup
-- these options simply serve to speed Vim up in general, due to
 not storing any undo information, not making a backup when saving, and
 doing everything in memory instead of writing to a swap file from time
 to time. They are not needed for your purposes but may help
 performance.
 
 Remember my suggestion about disabling syntax for the output HTML
 file? Here's how you could do that:
 
 autocmd BufNewFile * setl ft=
 
 This assumes that you are creating HTML files which do not already
 exist, you will need to use a different event/matching pattern if the
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2html optimization

2011-06-14 Thread Benjamin Koltai
Hi vim users,

I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to html. My 
server usually has multiple requests coming in at once, so I would love to 
optimize vim to work as quickly as possible. I would love to get a better 
understanding on what the minimum requirements for doing the conversion are and 
how I can set them properly. I am currently using the command:

HOME=#{ CONFIG.paths.lib_dir }/vimfiles/ vi -n -X '+runtime! syntax/2html.vim' 
'+xa' filename

I have a colorscheme in .../vimfiles/.vim/colors as well as a .vimrc. I only 
need syntax highlighting and 2html. The above command works but takes way to 
long. Are there other options I should add to speed up the process? I tried -e 
but I do not get the syntax highlighting with that option. 

Does the file have to load in order for it to get highlighted?

I also saw something online about a vim client server? Would that be something 
that would allow me to keep a vim instance running and send files to be 
converted to that server? Would that speed things up?

Thanks much for any help or advice,

Benji

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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-14 Thread Andy Spencer
On 2011-06-14 16:23, Benjamin Koltai wrote:
 I am currently using the command:
 
 HOME=#{ CONFIG.paths.lib_dir }/vimfiles/ vi -n -X '+runtime!
 syntax/2html.vim' '+xa' filename

Using '+runtime! syntax/2html.vim' is acting funny on my computer.
I haven't looked into it, but it's generating html for filename, and
then generating another html for filename.html and calling that one
filename.html.html.. Using '+runtime' instead of '+runtime!' or just
using +TOhtml seems to fix it..


 I tried -e but I do not get the syntax highlighting with that option.

You can force ex to use syntax highlighting with a few tricks. You'll probably
need to run it in screen if it's being run by a daemon, and you'll need to
force the value of 'term' in vimrc. The gist of the command I use is:

  HOME=/home/andy screen -D -m ex -nXZ -i NONE -u vimrc '+sil! TOhtml' ...


You can also speed it up a little but by using:

  let g:html_no_progress = 1


For reference, the full command I use and the vimrc are posted here:
  - http://vpaste.net/index.cgi?ft=sh
  - http://vpaste.net/vimrc?ft=vim


If you find anything else that helps, let me know!


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Re: 2html optimization

2011-06-14 Thread George V. Reilly
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin Koltai bkolta...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using vim to syntax highlight and convert plain text files to
 html. My server usually has multiple requests coming in at once, so I
 would love to optimize vim to work as quickly as possible. I would
 love to get a better understanding on what the minimum requirements
 for doing the conversion are and how I can set them properly.

This may be heretical for this list, but is Vim the right tool for the
job? There are many other syntax highlighting engines out there.
I've used the Pygments http://pygments.org/ library with some success
and restview http://mg.pov.lt/restview/ to render it to a browser.
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