Re: Virtual Girl
James, If you haven't already sent it off to Jesse, could you put my email addy in the Cc: field? Iechyd Da, Andrew Found it. 984k stuffed. Let me know and I'll zap it to you. -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Please be careful not to quote *too much* of the original message
Come on now. . . . and this is OT enough. I agree here with Mart, Mark, Darren Paul... OT is OT. If someone has a story about how their '57 Chevy is the same, exact colour as their IIci that has been sitting in a smoke filled room for the past 10 years... That's an amusing anecdote may be fun for a short thread... But... The list footer? The list is what the list is. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen an advertisement or long list footer, other than when someone doesn't snip it in their response. I'll scroll down until I see a sig line with no in front of it. If I needed to unsubscribe or switch to digest mode didn't know how, I'd scroll down further. So... What's the prob' Rob? Most ISP's today won't even support a modem that can't handle the bandwidth of downloading the list footer in a fraction of a second. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: monitor cable questions
Janet wrote: ...I am stopped in my tracks by the gaping realization that this creature has no cord! there at the back, where all my others have their own attached cords coming out, sits a VGA sized female dongle, three rows of 5 holes, staggered, mini D, and not a cord in the house to connect it. Any generic Pee Cee HD-15 - HD-15 cable will do the trick for you there. I look at my adapter. great. mac male on one side, female VGA on the other. That's standard. unless my females are lesbians, these two can't mate and produce beautiful visions together. snip did apple make a monitor that was meant to run off a PC connection? Ever since multi-sync monitors were invented, it's been possible to run Mac monitors on a Pee Cee vice versa. The only thing necessary is a DB-15 - HD-15 (or vice versa) adapter. In between cables will tend to be male - male. Hence, the female connector on your monitor the female connector on your video card (and corresponding adapter) No prob... These are *standard* parts. the Packard Bell and the Daewoo each have the same pin out male VGA plugs: 3 rows of 5 each, top row complete, second row missing pin #4, bottom row missing pin #2 and #5. Unless the pins are broken off, don't worry about them. The companies' number crunchers figured out somewhere along the line, that if they left unused pins out of the connector, they would save a few pennies/1000 monitors along the line. (makes you wonder how much the number cruncher is being paid to calculate the minute savings... And, if companies should have number crunchers for the number crunchers to determine if their salaries are worth saving a few pounds of brass/million monitors.) the sony CPD-1604S was the same in that it was missing pin #4 in the second row of 5, but missing pins #2 and 3 as well as #5 on the bottom row. The IBM was likewise missing pin #4 in the second row. but every other pin out was there. Again, don't worry about it. I don't have my VGA pinout diagrams handy. But, I would say, these are monitor sense pins. When certain pins are connected to ground, this tells the display card what the monitor's capabilities are. If there is no need to connect a particular pin to ground, the manufacturer will simply not include the pin. (a few cents/1000 monitors) so my question now, is-- of the VGA monitors, is the IBM likely to be full color? and the the other VGA's black and white? They're likely all colour. Depending on the age, some may be multi-sync, some may be fixed screen size. Up until a few years ago, there was a fairly consistent rule... If the rear portion of a VGA monitor was flat on top, it was multi-sync. If the rear portion was sloped, it was fixed. If a monitor is multi-sync, it will most likely work on a Mac with a DB-15 - HD-15 adaptor. If it's fixed, you'll need a Mac video card that will handle VGA 60 hz. refresh rate... The Radius Precision Colour card comes to mind. But, that's only an 8 bit card. why does my multiscan 15 have a female VGA dongle, instead of an attached cord coming out of the back, and what do i look for in cabling, to use it on a 24 bit color video card in my IIfx's? did I get the wrong adapter? or can I still work with the one I picked up? See above. Any generic VGA cable will work with the adapter you have. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Origin....
Mark Benson wrote: I think my dad deserves a bottle of scotch for his efforts. Single Malt... May I suggest Glenlivet? Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Neotech IG24
pickle wrote: There are such things as 24-bit greyscale? I always thought most stuff just used 8-bit for greyscale. Yes. 8 bit greyscale is standard. Even a 24 bit video card will not use more than 8 bits for greyscale. 8 bit is all that's necessary for 256 shades of grey, since the video card will simply fire all 3 guns (red, green blue) at the same level. 24 bit colour still uses 256 levels. But, it uses 8 bits for the red gun, 8 for the green 8 for the blue. (256 X 256 X 256 = 16.something million) 16 bit colour uses only 64 levels of fire for each gun. Though a 16 bit card will switch to 256 levels (8 bit) when in greyscale mode. There may be some professional video cards for video and/or graphic arts work that will use more than 256 levels. But, they're not consumer products you'd pay $$$ through the nose for them. 256 shades is quite subtle. Using PhotoShop, set the background colour to red=128, green=128, blue=128. then create a new picture with that as the background. Then set your foreground colour to red=129, green=129, blue=129. Take your pencil or brush draw a picture or pattern... Save the picture, then set it as a desktop on a machine with 24 bit colour... See if you can see your pattern? Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The ever-popular PRAM question
yoyoyo wrote: Can you describe the tack-soldered procedure. Is that duel battery holder with two 1.5 volts batt.. Of course it is? Tack soldering generally means, to lay a wire flat on a contact solder it down, rather than wrapping it around a pin or inserting it into a cup before soldering. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
NuBus-USB (was CD burning.....)
Gregg Eshelman wrote: A NuBus IDE card would be nice, but that would require driver software and/or an onboard ROM to support it. It would be nice. But, if someone is going to develop a card drivers... Perhaps we should breathe some Life back into the NuBus-USB idea. A few things we've already established: 1. A USB controller chip has already been developed that could be fitted into a NuBus card. 2. pickle has named a few companies as possible candidates for an email campaign. 3. Several folks have expressed interest in a NuBus-USB card. Questions: 1. Has anyone contacted tech support for any companies recently? And, if so, how friendly is the particular company about providing support for older machines? Since the controller chip has already been developed, this is a VERY REAL possibility. We just need to pick a company GO! If everyone writes their own letter, it will have much more of an impact than if someone compiles a letter everyone just stamps their name in the signature space forwards it. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: First timers LC hard drive installation
pickle wrote: Just grab the grey ribbon and pull straight back, hard. That wide grey flat complicated cable looks fragile It's not :) As long as you pull with a steady, even pressure. Don't yank or jerk on the cable. If the connector is being stubborn, you can ease the cable slightly to the left slightly to the right, while maintaining a steady, even pressure. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- When are the Adults in this world going to grow up? -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Nubus Ethernet
Jesse Parkerton wrote: I just got two nubus ethernet cards for the IIci, but I am having some problems. I am trying to fileshare with my PBG4, running 9.2.1. I had a similar problem trying to ethernet my IIci to a friend's iMac DV (OS 9.0). It wasn't a big problem, since I just wanted to swap a few files with him, so, I never pursued a solution. My IIci also has an Asante NuBus ethernet card, which talks just fine to my PM7100/80/Sonnet G3/260... ...Come to think of it though, My 7100 has a Farallon EtherWave adapter which seems to auto-switch for crossover... Are you using a crossover Cat-5 cable or straight-through? Re: your question about HFS+... That makes absolutely no difference. Each machine OS will address its own hard drive. OS 7.1.1 on your IIci doesn't have to read the HFS+ hard drive in your PB-G4 directly. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: mac2ci scsi
Steff wrote: Could this be a matter of drive's speed? May be, the internal HD spins at 5400 rpm while the external-one at 7200 rpm, both configured to auto-start? That wouldn't cause the problem. I've got a 7200 RPM Seagate drive in my IIci right now. I can hook an older 110 Meg (I forgot the speed. But, it's even slower than 5400 RPM)... Select either one as the startup disk it will work. The only place where I have problems, is if I have 2 or more startup partitions on the same hard drive. My IIci will always default to the first partition. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Question
Steve Conrad wrote: I have an ancient Rodime HD... After several tries I went the Nuke and Pave route with APS PowerTools. Also, it said it would take 10 minutes to format the HD but it took under 2 minutes for it to declare that it was done. That's normal. APS is always ultra-conservative in estimating completion time. PPS...APS says that they no longer support any version of their PowerTools below 5.something (PowerMacs only) Since they no longer support anything below 5.X, APS Power Tools 4.1 is now on The Site. As is, Tech Tool Pro 1.1.7. See if you have any luck with these. I use APS 4.1 on a IIci. It allows me to partition HD's larger than 2 Gig. (into 2 Gig or smaller partitions of course) If I try to use Apple's Drive Setup... Even if I partition the drive on a PowerMac, the IIci will refuse to mount it if it's over 2 Gig total. Iechyd Da, Andrew and that all data on older versions has been lost, including what errors mean. B.S. They just want you to buy a new version. Even if it means you have to buy a new computer to use it. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: fixing screen scratches?
the pickle wrote: Sandpaper won't scratch glass. At least not normal sandpaper. Steve Merryman replied: I find rather, that most sandpaper, will scratch most glass. Even dollar store sandpaper. Perhaps the answer here is steel wool. If the scratches are in the coating, the steel wool will smooth them, with enough elbow grease. If the scratches are in the glass, the steel wool will have essentially, no effect... Then it's time for the fine grade sandpaper. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Can any scsi Mac burn CDs?
Josh wrote: I would like to set up an old IIvx as a CD-R station. If I put in an 800 MB hard drive and attach a scsi CD-R drive, would this work? I would read in a cd I want to copy using the CD-R to the hard disk. I figure even a slow hard drive can supply a CD-R drive with a 1x write speed. Most definitely! Even the slowest of slow hard drives... I do most of my burning on a PM7100 with a Yamaha 6X burner. I set Toast to use a 64 Meg RAM buffer. It doesn't take long for a 5400 RPM drive to fill the RAM buffer... Almost exactly 1 minute before the burn is complete, the hard drive stops flickering... Everything after that is out of the buffer. Doing the math here... 64 Meg / 6X = 10.666... Meg per minute. 10.666... Meg / 60 = .1777... Meg per second. You'd have to look awful hard to find a hard drive that slow! 1X refers to audio speed. Digital audio is approximately 41 Khz (41,000 / second) sample rate. 41 K * 2 (16 bit bytes for audio) = 82 K. 82 K * 2 (stereo) = 164 K... 164 K ~ .1777... Meg - Pretty close there. (given that a K is not exactly 1,000) It would seem that the only bottleneck (until ultra-fast, giga-flop burners hit the market) would be the burner itself, not the hard drive, SCSI bus, or the computer. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple MultiSyn 15 monitor help, again
Jim Raper wrote: 4. I hooked up my working 15 MS monitor to his computer for a loan until other arrangements could be made. 5. No problem until late last week when after a freeze-up, he restarted and got no monitor picture. He has attempted to restart since then and still cannot get a monitor response. Any ideas. I haven't had time to try the monitor on mine at home. That would be the next step in determining the problem: If the monitor still works fine on your computer, I would suspect maybe a near dead PRAM battery in his computer. (May be other things. But, it's a place to start) If the monitor is dead on your computer too... H... Could be coincidence... 2 monitors in a row, on the verge of going on the fritz. On the other hand, could be his computer is putting out some sort of spike discharge through the video port that is killing monitors. If that's the case... Time to call out our super-hero! By day, he's a mild mannered, fellow... frolicking in the woods, or, fishing by a trout stream in Kennedy meadows... By Night*** He's APPLE TECH!!! Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Colour Mac Classic
sstanley wrote: That link only allows you to download the system update. The OS is not available from apple. I don't really need OS 7.1 or else. Any OS that would work on a Color Mac Classic would be fine. I sent you an off list link to a source for 7.1. If anyone else needs that source, contact me off list. (folks who have inquired about The Site can understand the reasoning) I use a G4 for most of my work which unfortunately has no disk drive so getting things put on to floppy can be difficult. I do have a SCSI card and an external drive that I can connect to both my G4 and Color Mac Classic. Is it possible to format the external drive, download an Operating System image to it, then startup the C.M.C. using the external drive as a startup disk? Sure! You can download disk images, mount them on your G4 and install whatever early OS you want on an external drive. Using Custom Install, specify the Colour Classic and away you go... Copy all the disk images to the external drive you can mount them on the CC and proceed from there... Try doing that on a DOS box! If you need a means of mounting the disk images, once you get the hard drive physically transferred from the G4 to the CC, contact me off list for a URL to The Site. ShrinkWrap works just fine for that! Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Colour Mac Classic
sstanley wrote: I recently obtained a free Color Mac Classic. It was previously owned owned by a school. Installed on it was the schools netwerk program which instantly starts up when you boot. Unfortunately I cannot bypass this program as I need the administrators password to do so. For a solution I want to reinitialize the drive and reinstall OS 7.1. Does anyone know where I can obtain a free or cheap copy of OS 7.1 (preferably on floppy)? Any help is appreciated. I believe you can find a link to download OS 7.1 the System Update 3.0 in the FAQ. The URL is at the footer of any of pickle's posts. The only thing it will cost is 11 blank HD floppy disks. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
QuickTime 3 Pro
Hello All, Does anyone by chance have the installer for QuickTime 3 Pro? I've got my serial #. But, I seem to have lost or deleted the installer somewhere. I've got 2.5 below, and 4.0 up. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: QuickTime 3 Pro
Does anyone by chance have the installer for QuickTime 3 Pro? I've got my serial #. But, I seem to have lost or deleted the installer somewhere. I've got 2.5 below, and 4.0 up. Marten replied: Any download of QT3 will do. It is the serial number that makes it pro. Yes. I think what I need is the download cache. If anyone saved that when updating to QT Pro 3. Clicking on the Update to QuickTime Pro icon just logs onto the QuickTime 5 page. I don't recall if QT 3 worked the same a QT 4... In 4, if you have the download cache in the same folder as the QT updater, it will just work from the cache, rather than logging onto the QT website. On the subject of QT... What is the fastest (least frame skipping) version of QT Player that will work on a IIci? Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: system 6 apps
Jay Jay Johansson wrote: I have a question! The apps for the system 6 can work in system 7? pickle replied: Most of them, yes. Some won't, but most will. Not only will most work with OS 7.x... Most of the stuff I've downloaded from Marten's site: http://www.euronet.nl/users/mvdk/system_6_heaven.html work just fine on a PowerMac running OS 8.6. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Clearing out unused extra memory after closing IE 4.01 and/orOE 4.01
Folks, I notice that approximately 5MB or so of RAM does not clear out after I use IE 4.01 and/or OE 4.01. My Performa 550 has 36MB RAM, and should have about 28MB to 31MB RAM free, depending on how much MacOS 7.5.5 uses at a given time. 32 bit addressing is on, virtual memory and the RAM disk are off, and the disk cache is 1MB. How can I clear out the extra unused RAM every time I close IE4 and OE4? Any help is appreciated. You could try Mac OS Purge. It's a handy little utility for freeing up memory that programs often don't fully release. It's available on The Site. Email me off list for the URL if you don't already have it. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: DOS
DHill wrote: Hey I have a bunch Tandy 1000's around here including a 1000 RL, plus some back breaking portables as well. Where do they fit in, and what about CPM? Gregg Eshelman wrote: I've got 2 versions of Deskmate. And CP/M? Best studied and left laying on the dust of antiquity. Most of the limited commands are obscure and stupid at best. All this talk about T1000's is bringing back memories. My 2nd computer was a T1000 TX. What a screamer it seamed like, at the time... 8 Mhz '286 w/PC Jr. graphics! What a price tag too! CPU $1,2000 20 Mb hard card $600 CGA monitor $600 1,200 baud internal modem $200 2nd floppy drive $200 128k extra graphics memory $130 Box of 10 Tandy DD disks $40 Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Virus's
Gregg Eshelmann wrote: Mainly because the huge majority of people use PCs and Windows. snip If the positions of Mac and Wintel were switched, the Wintel crowd would be crowing about how few viri there are for their platform. There are SO MANY viri written for Pee Cee vs. Mac that it creates another problem for Pee Cee users... A Pee Cee tech that used to live here in town was mentioning to me a while back, that the number of viri is just so large, that whenever new virus definitions are written to update virus programs, they end up deleting some of the old viri from the list. So... Even if everyone on the dark side had the latest virus software installed... All it takes is for someone to pull dad's old Pee Cee out of the closet where it was stored years ago, when it started dropping files from the hard drive... Fire it up and find dad's old XXX picture collection decide to share some of those pics with their friends... Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Seagate's Website
Hello All, Has anyone tried to get on to Seagate's website recently? The past couple of days my browser gets as far as Sending request for seagate.com Then nothing. Even if I go to google, search seagate and try to link from there... Same thing. Specifically, I'm trying to find info on a couple of old half-height drives: ST-138N ST-157N Anyone know what size these puppies are? Or the jumper pin arrangement? Both have 5 pair of jumper pins next to the SCSI connector. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Gesundheit -- Was: Welsh (was floppy cleaning?)
Gezondheid allemaal! Marten Rodney asked: I assumed Iechyd Da means Cheers because I know Andrew, but how do you pronounce it? Using German pronunciation: Jachi Da. Using American pronunciation: Yah [clear your throat] ee Daw. I know Gezondheid means you just sneezed, because I'm half-German-American, but what does allemaal! mean? And how do you pronounce Gezondheid allemaal!? Skoal! Rodney Slainte, (Health on you) (Irish) Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The case of the disappearing IMAP messages
The pickle wrote: Internet Mail Access Protocol or some such. Try googling for it :) http://www.whatis.com is a good place to look up definitions and explanations of various computer terms also. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: editing files on remote machines
Jeff Garrison wrote: If it's HTML, I keep pages on my home machine and the ISP's server. I edit them locally then upload to the server with fetch 3.x. The act of uploading replaces the old file with the new. Simple and elegant in execution. I have Fetch 3.0.3 also. I use it for surgical alterations. For the most part though, I use Anarchy 3.7. The Mirror function will make your website an exact duplicate of the website folder on your hard drive. One other nice thing about this is, if for some reason a file on your website gets corrupted or erased, you don't have to go searching around on the website to make sure everything's there. Anarchie will find the discrepancy and replace the file. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Summary: Microsoft QuickBASIC
Gregg Eshelmann wrote: Was for PC. You had to have QuickBASIC to run them since they weren't compiled. If you're interested in them, they can be found on some of the emulation sites. :) Just note that on anything with a sub 800Mhz CPU they'll be slow. The version of QuickBASIC that came with DOS ran in interpreted mode only. But, the paid version included the option to compile basic programs into .EXE files. I had it years ago. It worked fairly decent, as far as DOS boxes go. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: floppy cleaning?
Hey gang, Is there such a thing as a floppy drive cleaning kit, one that actually does a good job? Blowing/vacumming out the worst of the dust bunnies hasn't restored this old LC floppy to full operating condition. I've got a floppy cleaner that I got from Ratty Shack many years ago. I don't know if they still carry them. Essentially, it's a 3 1/2 floppy case with no dust flap. Instead of a magnetic disk, it has sort of a stiff cloth disk. Just put a few drops of cleaning fluid on the cloth disk pop it in the drive it cleans the heads. If they no longer sell them, try to locate a Scotch (3M) floppy. Pop in in your drive, then write and read back a floppy full of data. It'll clean your heads. Scotch uses a very abrasive emulsion for their magnetic recording products... Same thing for cassettes video tapes. Just pop in a Scotch video tape with a movie already recorded on it and watch the picture slowly emerge from the static. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIcx Problem
Rich S. wrote: Quarter turn neither prevented the shutdown nor restarted the computer. Now, unsuccessful at powering up at all. Any other possibilities? Have you tried a different keyboard and keyboard cable? A couple years back on the PowerMacs list (before it was divided into 1st, PCI, G) there was a thread about 7100's that wouldn't stay on others that would repeatedly turn themselves back on... The PM7100, IIcx IIci all use the same power supply and soft-power button on the keyboard. Anyway, IIRC, one person found that a defective keyboard cable was causing his unusual power problems. Another had replaced his keyboard and the problem cleared up. It seems unlikely. But, try a different mouse too. Since the IIcx is soft-power, anything plugged into the ADB *could* be causing improper signals to be sent to the power supply. Also, if you plug a digital clock into the same power strip where your IIcx is plugged in... This would give you an indication if there are short power outs while you're gone... The clock display will be flashing. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Welsh (was floppy cleaning?)
Andrew Michael MacTao wrote: Iechyd Da, Kyle asked: All right. If no one else is gonna ask. Are you Welsh Andew? Er, no. My ex-roomie was. Actually, she was Irish, but, spend most of her adult life in Wales speaks fluent Welsh Gaelic. Along with Irish, Spanish and I believe Portuguese. I'm a mixed Celtic bag. Iechyd Da, (Good Health) (used similarly to Cheers!) Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IMAP mail clients
At 23:12 -0400 on 25/09/01, Amber Rhea wrote: Thoughts and opinions, please. What are some good, non-memory-hogging email programs that are IMAP capable? Gracias... pickle wrote: Eudora 4.2 or 4.3 (I know 4.0 didn't support it) is good, but versions 4.x are getting harder to find for download. Is Eudora 4.3 68k compatible? IIRC, when I tried to upgrade Eudora 4.0 on my IIci to 4.3, I got a message that PPC was required. If 4.3 is 68k compatible, I'll post the upgrade on The Site. I'll wait though, for version 6.0 to come out before posting the 4.0 installer, since I did vow to only post things that are at least 2 full versions behind Current Release. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: IIcx Problem
Jane Thompson replied: Silly questions, perhaps, but since it says that it was not shut down properly, I'll ask. Do you have a cat, dog, child or Giant Rat of Sumatra that may have knocked your power cord? Power outage? Checked your power supply? Is this happening often, or only once or twice? jt Rich S wrote: Seems to work OK while at the office, but by the time I return (later the same day, or the next day) the machine has shutdown. Do you by chance have a custodian that cleans your office while you're out? Sometimes custodians will unplug things to make vacuuming easier, or, to free up an electrical outlet. Also, the surge current from an industrial strength vacuum could cause just enough of a momentary power drop to shut the IIcx down. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Eudora 4.3.3
Steff wrote: The installer for Eudora 4.3.3 is available for free at http://www.eudora.com/products/old.html ... however, it requires a PowerPC. Sho' 'nuff. I just checked the link. They are indeed giving 4.3.3 away for free. I also noticed that they have nothing on their site whatsoever, that in any way, shape or form supports 68k... For sale or free. I was going to wait for 6.0 to come out before posting 4.0.1. But, in light of the fact that they are giving 4.3.3 away, and the fact that they are no longer selling anything that is 68k compatible... While I'm at it. I have the 4.3 updater. But, that's PPC only. Does anyone have a copy of the 4.2 updater they could send me, or a current URL? I'll be doing that later tonight. I'll also take down VirtualPC 1.0.1 since it's PPC only. If anyone wants it. Get it quick... Same URL as the SplitzJoins utility. Email me off list if you need it. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: A Look At A Therapeutic Session
Jeff Garrison wrote: This is an .mpeg format movie. It will take some time to download, it's 4 megs long. Poor quality, badly edited, it's a returned favor to a friend who gave much to me, to get me off the PeeCee for good. I hope it works for you. http://www.sisp.net/~sulement/images/DeadPC.m1v That works for me!... I guess you won't be trying to install Windoze 2k on that one any time soon. Question: How tall are you? and the Gentle Giant? Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Take a deep breath, relax. :)
Rob Rosenbrock wrote: Has anyone looked up the definition of heathen? It was used correctly - Atheism isn't a religion, but a lack of religion. Yes. According to my dictionary, Heathen means anyone who hasn't readily accepted one of the 3 major Religions: Christianity, Judaism, Islam. So, Heathen would include anyone who has no Religion (for whatever reason) As well as anyone who has chosen any of the other Religions, Buddhist, Taoist, Hindu, Shinto, etc. Thus: A statement like, Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Heathen alike... Would literally mean, Everyone. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac Video and SVGA Monitors
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can get the PC monitors working on the LC-II, but not on the IIci or IIsi. Does anyone know a way to get the cheap, plentiful PC monitors running with the II's, maybe a web page where some info can be found? Years ago I saw a page on this where I think there was a method described to rig up a cable that would allow this to work. The II series Macs (IIci, IIsi) use sync on green video. Pee Cee monitors do not. I don't believe there are any DIP switch type adapters that will work. However, Griffin Technologies makes a II series adapter for just that purpose. It's a single function, single resolution (640X480) adapter. I've got one on my IIci. It's molded plastic. So, I can't open it up see what's inside. Maybe just a capacitor bridging across from the green signal to the monitor's sync pin(s). Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: what monitor sizes?
making for BIG low-res icons) the second answer was correct if you are talking about monitor _resolution_. Just a point of clarification on this... In the Mac world, monitor size means the physical size of the monitor. ie. 15, 17, 21, etc. Screen size means number of pixels high/wide. ie. 640X480, 832X624, 1024X768, etc. Resolution means, dots per inch, or, pixels per inch. Screen resolution is generally presumed to be 72 ppi. It almost sounds like a paradox... If you have a multi-sync monitor and set it to a larger screen size, everything on the screen gets smaller, and, vice-versa. In the Pee Cee world, the term Resolution means the same thing as Screen Size in the Mac world. It also means picture size when referring to a .jpg, .gif, etc. Have you ever downloaded, say, a 640X480 picture from the web, loaded it up in GraphicsConverter, or, put it in your slide show folder for After Dark, only to find the picture displayed as a little thumbnail? The picture was probably saved in a Pee Cee graphics program. The Pee Cee program defines the picture as being 640X480 resolution. The Mac looks at the first number when determining the resolution (640), then says, If the resolution is 640 (dpi) and the picture is 640 pixels wide, that should be displayed 1 wide. It could also be a Mac user who scanned the picture at, say, 600 dpi never bothered to change the resolution to 72 dpi for screen display. Iechyd Da, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PPC 7100/66 to /120?
Deven wrote: Sorry, I know this is off-list, but does anyone know if I can replace the CPU in a PowerMac 7100/66 with the PPC 120mhz processor from a 7100/120? Will it automatically run at the right speed, or do I need to change jumpers (hopefully not oscillators)? A 7100/120??? IIRC, the 7100 only came in 66 80 Mhz models. The 8100 came in 80 100 models. *I think* there was also a 120 Mhz? If you have a 7100/120, it sounds like either a processor upgrade card of some sort. Or, a major surgical alteration. If it's a processor upgrade card, it's a simple plug play operation. If you're bound and determined to upgrade a 7100 though, why not go with a Sonnet or NewerTech G3 upgrade card? Anyway, folks on the 1st Poermacs list would probably be willing to go into more detail on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Good words from the web.
Kyle Hansen wrote: Oh Crap. Heathen? How about Atheist? Agnostic? Heretic? Someone who refuses to believe inaccurate romance novel drivel like the bible? The bible is fiction... snip Kyle, this is a Mac list. Keep your hate mongering, anti-Spiritual drivel to yourself. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Apple Expo France cancelled
Damien Turquin wrote: We're canceling Apple Expo in the wake of last week's devastating and tragic events, said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. We're sorry to disappoint our users and developers, but their safety is our primary concern. It's the only european Apple expo, and I think lots of people are really disappointed, especially the one like me who are actually living in Paris... They said it's for security reasons. I'm not so sure terrorists are interested in MacUsers... I can certainly understand your disappointment. At the same time, I can certainly understand Uncle Steve's concern. Terrorism, phase II, just might be... Kill high profile Americans (Computer company representatives) in someone else's country. This would drive a message home... At home or abroad, if you're American, you just might die! That's the goal of terrorism... To make folks live in terror. If I were Steve Jobs, I certainly wouldn't want my people used as pawns in such a plot. That aside... Has Apple announced any plans to reschedule the European Expo? Perhaps after a decisive plan has been put in place for capturing those responsible for Phase I? Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PowerCache in an LC. Re: To Speed Up An All-In-One
To allay the suspicions of the Sceptical Pickle, has anyone seen a real, live DayStar 030 PowerCache adaptor for the LC series? (And/or one for the Turbo 040 or Turbo 601.) According to Sceptical Pickle, pictures in the installation manuals don't count. :P I've never seen one. But, one thing that may help, though it wouldn't be decisive proof... Is the picture in the manual an actual photo, or, a drawing? Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The last word Re: The New York Attack
Rodney wrote: That was the cleverest attempt to get the last word I've ever seen. Well done, Andrew!!! Actually, it wasn't clever. It really was stupid, careless oversight. David is a member of the MacToMac list also. I was going through, responding to gobs o' stuff from the MacToMac list. I saw a familiar name on his email, typed a response hit send. As it was uploading, that's when I noticed there wasn't [M2M] in the subject line. As you know, that very same subject has been getting airplay on probably every email list on the planet... Oops... Sorry again, for that post. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The New York Attack
THE ROCK wrote: So you idealists tell me What should the USA should have done after the Pearl harbor attack? As a matter of fact, Pearl Harbor was not an unprovoked attack! Japan was already engaged in war at the time. They certainly didn't want another enemy to fight. But, the United States set up a naval blockade around Japan preventing them from bringing in food and supplies. A naval blockade, by the by, is an act of war. So, the United States had already committed an act of war against Japan. Japan retaliated by bombing the harbor where those ships were stationed. Of course, that part of the story was deliberately left out of U.S. history books. And, of course, the repeated military actions that the U.S. has taken against Islamic nations will be left out of U.S. history books as well... The story will begin with the attack on New York. Can't have our kids growing up, thinking we're all a bunch of *ssh*l*s now, can we? It is not revenge we speak of. It is justice. Nay! Justice involves due process. Without due process, it's just plain revenge... mob mentality. Just like America was justified in taking action after the Pearl harbor attack If you mean justified in it's True definition... And after-market add-on explanation to make one's actions *appear* to be right, then yes, America was justified. If you mean justified as Correct in the first place, then, no. America was not justified. she is also justified in taking action after this cowardly attack. If the United States' military was as weak as the Islamic nations' military, and theirs was as strong as ours. And the only way we had of getting even for the attack on New York was to fly a kamikazi jetliner into their capital... Would you pilot that jet?... Cowardly it was not! Every nation has the right to protect her citizens. Absolutely! But, the greater part of protecting her citizens lies in not provoking others to attack her citizens. In that, the U.S. has failed miserably! And, how does seeking revenge protect anyone? Will it bring back the lives that were lost? Absolutely not! It will only create more death and destruction... Leaving the Islamic people feeling justified in launching yet another attack on the U.S... Maybe Los Angeles next time... Maybe the white house and congress. That's protecting the citizens? I speak the professional opinion of a skilled warrior. I'm Schooled in over 20 different Martial Arts. Just like the U.S. has the power to run rough-shod over the Islamic nations, I have the power to run rough-shod over anyone I damn well please... And there's not a damned thing they could do about it. But, I don't... Many is the time I've walked away from a fight. Many is the time I've been called a coward. Many is the time someone came to me later and said, Thank you for being man enough to walk away not put me in the hospital. If George W. Bush isn't man enough to walk away, it's high time he step down from office and let an adult take over. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The New York Attack
As a matter of fact, Pearl Harbor was not an unprovoked attack! The US setting up a naval blockade was a good thing. Good, bad, or, indifferent... The point is, The attack on Pearl Harbor was not unprovoked. Nor was it unexpected. If you mean justified in it's True definition... And after-market add-on explanation to make one's actions *appear* to be right, then yes, America was justified. If you mean justified as Correct in the first place, then, no. America was not justified. What??? Are you mad? No... Are you? If the attack on Pearl Harbor were entirely unprovoked, the U.S. would have been fully justified in retaliating. Seeking revenge against someone whom you provoked in the first place is just plain ludicrous! If you can't see the logic in that, maybe we should test your theory. How about if I start messing with your house, your family, your job, your Mac... Until you finally get mad enough to punch me in the nose... Then I break your legs in retaliation... Because, after all... You started it by hitting me! Kamikazi's are always cowards. Everybody who does suicide is a coward. 2 very different acts! Suicide Bombing is a hideous misuse of the word Suicide. Suicide is a very selfish, cowardly act. In suicide, a person is looking for the easy way out of their suffering, often trying to hurt their family and friends, whom they believe don't care. In a Suicide Bombing one is willing to give his own life for a cause he strongly believes in. Also believing that his actions will make life somehow better for his friends and family. Absolutely! But, the greater part of protecting her citizens lies in not provoking others to attack her citizens. In that, the U.S. has failed miserably! There will always people that will try to harm other people, provoked or unprovoked. The only failure of the US was to have neglected their Intelligence services. True! But, not on such a massive scale. And, certainly not against a world super-power... Unless they've been outright provoked to the point where they simply refuse to take it anymore... Where they feel they have nothing left to loose. That is one mistake people have repeatedly made since the dawn of time... whether we're talking international, national, or even, personal... NEVER LEAVE A MAN WITH NOTHING LEFT TO LOOSE! Or, even feeling like he has nothing left to loose. That's protecting the citizens? No, but the Muslim fundamentalists need to be stopped, just like the Nazi's and the Japanees in the Second World War. 2 entirely different animals! The Nazis Japanese were out to conquer the world. The Muslims are just trying to be left alone, by the U.S. by Isreal. Folks who are trying to conquer the world will fight until their military has been reduced to the point where it is no longer feasible. Then they will surrender. Folks who are fighting for their Rights, Freedom and Liberty, will fight until the last baby is shot dead, while flinging a diaper full of poop at the U.S. soldiers who killed his mommy daddy. It's a never ending campaign... Kill bin Laden. Another will rise up take his place. That will continue until every last Muslim is dead... That's over a billion people! If the U.S. were to slaughter over a billion people... I guarantee, folks of all Religions would be outraged. You'd see Catholics, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists and everyone else rising up, one by one to take bin Laden's place... Until every last Human on Earth is dead. The fundamentalists have proven they do not value human life at all. They value Life far more than you can imagine. The willingness to sacrifice a few for the betterment of the many is a concept that is entirely beyond Western comprehension. That's why we come up with such idiotic terms as, Suicide Bombing. I'm affraid most of the Muslim/Arabic population support their act against the civilized and free world. Huh? The United States has more laws on its books than any other country in the history of civilization. The United States has a higher percentage of its population in prison than any other country in the history of civilization. Every single Right guaranteed by the United States Constitution has been systematically removed, by unchallenged precedent. Free World? Those folks didn't strike out against Freedom, or, Civilization. They struck out against oppression of the Islamic people by the Western world. If you can't see that, it's time to perform an anal-craniectomy take a good, long look at what the Western world has done in the Middle East and other Islamic nations over the past several decades! There is an Arabic/Muslim minority here in Europe. And those people were celebrating and happy because of the Attack in the U.S. The bombing of New York and Washington on the 11th September 2001 caused not only the death of thousand but also the illusion of a peacefull multicultural
Re: The New York Attack
They value Life far more than you can imagine. The willingness to sacrifice a few for the betterment of the many is a concept that is entirely beyond Western comprehension. That's why we come up with such idiotic terms as, Suicide Bombing. Chris Wood wrote: I tried not to get into this but the above was too hard to ignore. The above quote is absolutely repugnant and disgusting and utterly unfathomable. That anyone could even think that in the wake of the events of this past week is sickening. Think of anyone in the four planes, like the Flight Attendents who were killed with box cutters to get the pilots to come out of the cockpit, or the people who had the courage to fight the highjackers and down that plane knowing they were headed for certain death. Thank you. You just illustrated the above point... It's unfathomable! Chris, I feel you're letting your emotions overrun your intellect. There is nothing contained in the above statement that says it is not a gruesome thing, for a stewardess to be cut up with box cutters, butcher knives, scalpels, or anything else. It is merely a statement of fact... To many Moslems, to sacrifice themselves, and a few (hundred, thousand... doesn't matter) others, to further what they believe is a Righteous Cause... It's all in a day's work. We, in America, can't stand the thought of even one of Our Own being hurt or killed, while involved in a campaign to bomb someone else back into the stone age... A very different way of thinking, that we cannot even begin to comprehend. Those passengers fought the highjackers because they knew they were headed for certain death if they didn't fight... They might have a chance of survival if they were successful in overcoming them. Only a few fought. The rest cowered. If they had all fought, that plane would have landed safely. If the highjackers had handed all the passengers parachutes, they would have all jumped to safety and the White House would now be a pile of rubble. The highjackers knew they were headed for certain death either way... They volunteered for it... Did the passengers on the other 3 flights fight? I know this sounds cold and heartless to say in the aftermath of Tuesday. But, hey! The subject is here, and in a couple weeks, when emotions have cooled... Or when G.W. launches his attack on Afghanistan killing many civilians, and Americans are dancing in the streets over their deaths, even though we're so appalled that they would dance in the streets over our deaths... No one will give a sh*t. America has gone yellow. We were once a great nation. Not anymore. America will bomb the hell out of Afghanistan. Only because we have stealth bombers we can do it with little, or, no loss on our side. If we had to go in with the same technology as the Afghanis possess, we'd tuck tail and run. Hell, I can't even find anyone in this country who is willing to join a boycott against companies that are destroying our environment... They're afraid they may hurt someone's feelings. Or, someone might get mad at them, or, worse yet, they may be inconvenienced... Boo Hoo! In short... No. I'm not happy that thousands of folks died in New York. I am appalled though, that Americans will yell and scream in protest when American civilians are killed, yet, will sit on their fat, lazy asses, watching television and drinking beer, not even uttering a whimper of protest when the U.S. government goes out killing thousands, even hundreds of thousands of civilians in other countries. That's Sick! Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The New York Attack
Oops... Sorry about that folks... I said I wouldn't say anything more on this subject on this list I meant it... In my haste, I thought that last message was going to another list. I'll be more watchful from here on... Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The new york attack
I´m sorry for all the people who lives in new york, the attack to the world trade center is a horrible incident. I´m with you in this horrible suffering. Same here in the Netherlands! For folks who may be interested... There's been a rather interesting discussion about the WTC-Pentagon disaster on the MacToMac list, involving folks with quite a variety of differing opinions/political views. For the MacToMac list, this discussion is quite On-Topic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: The new york attack
THE ROCK wrote: Cooler minds will prevail: as for the attackers the usual treatment, retribution. I fear that's the entire basis of the problem we're facing... Retribution! Retribution was most likely the motivating factor behind the WTC/Pentagon attacks. If, in fact, it was Arabs behind the attack, they were, no doubt, getting even for the hundreds of thousands of women and children that were mercilessly slaughtered by the U.S. in 1991. So, the U.S. will launch yet another military campaign against the Arab nations, which will bring yet another attack against the U.S., etc., etc., etc., ... on into eternity, and beyond. Haven't we Learned a F*ck*ng thing from Northern Ireland? Where a war has raged on for nearly 1,000 years? Each side believing they're right, each side seeking vengeance for what the other side has done?... Each side seeking full, unconditional surrender from the other, neither side willing to give an inch? Shouldn't we, the Human Race, inventors of the Macintosh, be at least a tiny bit above the insect world?. Perhaps not!. If the next step proposed is retaliation, perhaps it is high time the cockroaches, with at least equal intelligence to the Humans take over control of this Earth Revenge is a Fool's Game. An ancient Chinese proverb states, If you are seeking revenge, start by digging two graves. End of story The Sage has spoken Do we end it here, or, do we let the cockroaches take over where the Idiot Humans left off? Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Bye everyone / The New York attack
I ship off to the Navy tomorrow morning, leaving home tonight. Im getting off all the lists so I dont have thousands of E-Mails when I come back. The lists have been a pleasant and informative experience for me. Maybe Ill be back in a few years. I sincerely hope, for Chris' sake, he hasn't jumped into the middle of the sh*t... This *could be* the start of something BIG. Cheers, (or, maybe not so cheery) Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: nubus ethernet/firewall on IIsi to PM8100
John Oliver wrote: HI there - I own an IIsi which has a nubus ethernet card in the PDS slot (with adapter) and an 8100 (PPC) with built-in ethernet. Does anyone know if I could use the card in the IIsi in the 8100? I'd like to set up a firewall using the 8100 and need two ethernet connections to do it. I've never tried it. But, the 8100 is a NuBus PowerMac. So, your NuBus ethernet card should work. Try posting this question to the 1st-Powermacs list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lots of folks there have done network firewall setups with X100 PowerMacs. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: PPC upgrade for LC 575
Richard Brauer wrote: Last time I checked, the cheapest retail version I saw of any of the 601 cards was $199 IIRC. Even on eBay, they routinely go for more than $100. Strange how that goes, isn't it? These days, an '040 upgrade card will cost you more than a Quadra. A 601 upgrade card for a NuBus 68k Mac will cost you more than a NuBus PowerMac. At this rate, I suppose in a couple of years, the Sonnet G3 card in my 7100 will be worth more than a beige G3. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Fixed Links
Hello All, If anyone was having problems downloading a few of the files on The Site, It should be working now. I had to re-mirror the site. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Upload vs. Download
Hello All, Just a curious question... One that has always puzzled me. Does anyone know the specifics, why uploading a file to a server takes so much longer than downloading the same file? Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Format interleave
Marten from the Kraats wrote: I am trying a pretty fast hard disk in a LC... Which format interleave is the best: 1, 2, 3, 4??? I have no direct answer to your question. But, since the concept of interleave perplexed me for so many years... I thought I'd toss in a few words on it for the benefit of New Mac (real computer) users. Interleave is how the hard drive writes data: A hard drive has a platter which contains (in terms of data) many cylinders, or, tracks. Each cylinder is then sub-divided into blocks, or, sectors. For the sake of simplicity, let's take the number 10, since all Western numbering systems are based on 10... Say, you have 10 sectors of data on each cylinder... Under ideal circumstances, your hard drive will read sector 1 (OK, it's actually sector 0... But, this is for simplicity's sake) send the data to your computer, the computer will then store the data, then send a message to the hard drive, OK, I'm ready for the next block of data. This message will reach the hard drive at, or, before the time the hard drive reaches the beginning of sector 2. (the time it takes the platter to physically rotate to that point) This would be a 1:1 interleave ratio. In the case of a slower computer and/or faster hard drive... by the time the computer stores the data from sector 1, then sends the, OK, I'm ready message to the hard drive, the hard drive has already rotated past the beginning of sector 2. Thus, the hard drive must wait for the platter to turn one entire revolution before sector 2 reappears. Then it can send sector 2 to the computer. This slows things down a whole lot... In this case, it would be faster if the hard drive wrote data on sectors 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10... By the time the computer is ready for the second block of data, the hard drive is already past the beginning of sector 2, but, the second block of data is written on sector 3. So, the hard drive only has to rotate its platter 1/10 of a turn before it locates the data which the computer is ready for. This is a 2:1 interleave ratio. Much slower computers/much faster hard drives may require a 3:1 ratio... writing data on sectors 1, 4, 7, 10.etc. I hope this helps someone's understanding, somewhere. -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Stupid email trick warning.
Flicker wrote: . And if you don't keep important data on it, you just format the disk and reinstall. A half-hour process that keeps you healthy. Or, just use VirtualPC. Install Windoze whatever apps you want make a backup copy of your hard file to CD... You can play with viri to your heart's content. Launch every one you get, just to see what it will do. After it destroys your hard file, quit VPC, trash the hard file drag your CD backup onto your hard drive... Ready to play with another virus. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: File splitter
Suwartono wrote: I download a file more than 1.44KB size. Is it possible to split it in windows and then put it back to a file in mac 68k ? If it is, what software shouldI use ? Coming soon... I'm negotiating some webspace with a fellow list member... There's a program called SplitzJoinz which is one of the first things I'll be posting. It includes Amiga, Mac DOS versions. You can split a file on any of 3 platforms rejoin it on any of the 3. Cheers, Andrew -- Since Judgement Day has now come and gone, it is now up to those who have not passed this test, over the next few years of tribulation to prove their True intent, or, be lost... Forever -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Enter To Win A | -- Canon PowerShot Digital Cameras start at $299 | Free iBook! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: 6214 Mac
Cameron Kaiser wrote: A Commodore 64 is better than all those inferior little things. :-P Commodore 64 user since 1984 and still using a 128D, Cameron, Is the 128D the model with a separate keyboard CPU?... Looks sort-of-similar to an Amiga 1000? Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Printer question
Marten wrote: I thought that the mac printer port was a serial port. How did they do that? I hope not by also delivering a nubus parallel printer port card, because that wouldn't be much help on a Classic II. Marten Yes, Orange Micro used to make a Mac to parallel cable and software. If you can find one or its equilivent they work fine on the old Mac's. Gary A serial to parallel adapter is a fairly simple device. They've been around for a long time. I used to have one on a Commodore 64 with a dark-side dot matrix printer, years ago. Essentially, is just stores up 8 bits, then sends them out all at once on the parallel port. Stores up the next 8 sends them out... Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: External Speakers * A few notes
There is no sound out from the TV tuner card or AV card. That's why Apple has the 1/8 minijack on the motherboard. Right. Oops. Those are definitely under two watts. You'll need an amp. Most definitely! Typical loudspeakers come in 4, 8 or 16 ohm varieties. Typical unbalanced line level, ie, the audio out on your computer, the playback jacks on your cassette deck are in the 47,000 to 100,000 ohm range. An 8 watt amplifier will deliver 8 volts at 1 amp into an 8 ohm speaker. A line level output typically peaks at 100 millivolts. (1/10 volt) The current available, since it's designed to feed a 50,000 ohm load is almost nill. The long and the short of it... You could hook loudspeakers directly to the audio out jack on your computer *probably* (no guarantees) won't hurt anything. But! you'd have to turn off your fan motors, hard drives, etc. put your ear up to the speaker to hear anything at all. And, it would sound very tinny. (bass notes require significant amounts of current) Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac vs PC Junk (was Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?)
laptop. He's been wanting to cram Mac OS 9.1 on this G3/233 that only has 160megs RAM and a 4 gig HD. Compared to the others, that's hardly cramming it on there... I'd say so too. I have a iMac rev. A with 96 mb running 9.1 Really no problem... Ditto! If your friend has need for features beyond what OS 8.6 provides, OS 9.1 is well worth the disk space it occupies... Unlike OS 9.0 which might be better served with (flame retardant suit donned here) Windoze '98... (hideous! Even for Micro$oft) Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: OT: Small monitor gloat. ;)
Gregg Eshelman wrote: It doesn't like 512x384 at all and needs some internal adjustment to be able to center 832x624 properly. Not bad for a just take it so we don't have to pack it back up freebie! Sounds like the same monitor I have on my 7100 as a second... 14 AV? Not sure of the model number... Brightness contrast thumbwheels are visible, but, hard to turn with the hatch closed... with the hatch open they're easier the vertical and horizontal size position pots are accessible?... Headphone jack just to the left of the hatch? Mine too, works beautifully at 640X480. Freaks out at 512X384 won't centre right at 832X624. Design flaw? While I'm on this, what software do I need for OS 8.6 to enable the extra features of a x100 PDS AV card? I don't have the AV card in my 7100, just the HPV card. OS 8.6 should have the necessary drivers though, for video-in, video-out on the AV card. *Friendly reminder* Quite a few folks on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list have AV cards in their X100's. Those who have 'em could probably give you a more in-depth answer. Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Mac vs PC Junk (was Re: Outlook/Windows users on this list?)
Amber Rhea wrote: I once got 8.0 on an LC475 with a 160MB hard drive and 16MB RAM! Wasn't pretty, but it was an accomplishment! :) Why? That's right! You are a member of the Vintage Macs list... The land where folks will do things, if for no other reason than, They said, It can't be done!... Never mind the question. Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re:
- Original Message - I have many Mac monitors. I want to connect one to a windoze box (Flame retardant suit on) Which one would work easiest and what adapters will I need? Please reply off list, I don't want to start another flame war. Your gonna look like one of them intel guys in the commercials.. :) OOPS... Flames? what flames? No flame retardant suit necessary, unless you're planning to rave about the superiority of Pee Cee's. Quite seriously... This is the most tolerant and understanding list I've ever subscribed to. Folks may remind you if you're deviating SERIOUSLY off-topic. But, they'll usually provide you with an answer to your question along with that reminder. Connecting a Pee Cee monitor to a vintage Mac, or, connecting a vintage Mac monitor to a Pee Cee... (stretching ever so slightly) is still on-topic. Editorials left behind... I'm not intimately familiar with every model of Mac monitor. But, if one of your monitors is Multi-sync doesn't have ADB connectors on it to set the screen size refresh rate... All you need is an HD-15 (3 rows of 5 pins) to DB-15 (8 pins in one row, 7 pins in the other) adaptor. You can find these on eBay from a couple dollars on up (depending on the time the auction closes) Or, from online merchants for $15 or $20. Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 136 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 72 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: Price drops. Re: LCIII Memory
--- Steve Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got that 32MB SIMM cheaper than an 4 MB SIMM cost 5 years ago. For as long as I've been playing with computers, I can never get used to how fast prices drop on old technology. Quite True. I had an electronics Teacher once, who said, Electronics is the ONLY industry where prices continue to drop. Computers seem to be the prime example of that statement. My good friend/Mac mentor paid about $6,500 for her IIci with 4 MEG of RAM, 80 MEG hard drive monitor. When you compare that to how much computing power you can buy today for $6,500, it's just amazing! Cheers, Andrew -- PM7100/80 - Sonnet G3/260, 88 8.6 PM6100/66 - 601/66, 16 8.1 IIci/25 - TokaMac '040/60, 64 7.1 SE/30 - '030/16, 8 7.1 SE - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 5 Plus' - '000/8, 4 6.0.8 -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | - Epson Stylus Color 740 Printers refurbished $79 | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac, sign up for PayPal, possible $5 bonus. http://lowendmac.com/ad/paypal.html Star Trek Collection: Movies 1-7 on VideoCD, $38.88 from CoolVCD http://lowendmac.com/ad/coolvcd.html - - - - - Vintage Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/vintagemacs.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.binhost.com/ Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/vintage.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
