Re: SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-09 Thread Stefan Daehler
Original Message:

I just tried to put an ethernet cable into one of the ports - it's too 
big! These are phone type connectors! What's that all about? :-)

John
So, it's most probably RJ11. An internal modem, perhaps? Steff

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Re: SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-09 Thread John Niven
Original Message:

I just tried to put an ethernet cable into one of the ports - it's 
too big! These are phone type connectors! What's that all about? :-)

John
So, it's most probably RJ11. An internal modem, perhaps? Steff
Yup, its RJ11, but I don't think it's a modem. On closer inspection it 
has a ROM with a white label that says:

SSI NB256 V1.0
00 40 10-0 22 97 D
I think the second line looks like a MAC address, which makes it some 
kind of LAN interface. Also there is a patent # which seems to be in 
that area of tech. The PCB says Tut NuBus Assy #20194, so I think its 
by:

TUT SYSTEMS INC.

http://www.tutsystems.com./

but I don't see any older products support. That always disappoints.

Is this what you call phone net ?

Probably a pretty useless find :-(

Love to hear more if anyone has anything.

John

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Re: SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-09 Thread Michael
on 04/09/2004 12:33 AM, John Niven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Original Message:
 
 I just tried to put an ethernet cable into one of the ports - it's
 too big! These are phone type connectors! What's that all about? :-)
 
 John

   I don't know what it is called but I ran across some cable that I thought
was 8 wire Ethernet, but instead had a smaller connector that had only Six
wires in the connector, but was a bit bigger than the 4 wire phone line
connector, Is this the RJ-11?


 
 So, it's most probably RJ11. An internal modem, perhaps? Steff
 
 Yup, its RJ11, but I don't think it's a modem. On closer inspection it
 has a ROM with a white label that says:
 
 SSI NB256 V1.0
 00 40 10-0 22 97 D
 
 I think the second line looks like a MAC address, which makes it some
 kind of LAN interface. Also there is a patent # which seems to be in
 that area of tech. The PCB says Tut NuBus Assy #20194, so I think its
 by:
 
 TUT SYSTEMS INC.
 
 http://www.tutsystems.com./
 
 but I don't see any older products support. That always disappoints.
 
 Is this what you call phone net ?

   No, 'Phone Net' plugs into the Printer port, and uses regular phone line
to connect to each computer. Not Super Fast, but it works.


   Michael


 


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Re: SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-09 Thread Kyle DePasquale
On Apr 8, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Michael wrote:

on 04/09/2004 12:33 AM, John Niven at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Original Message:

I just tried to put an ethernet cable into one of the ports - it's
too big! These are phone type connectors! What's that all about? :-)
John
   I don't know what it is called but I ran across some cable that I 
thought
was 8 wire Ethernet, but instead had a smaller connector that had only 
Six
wires in the connector, but was a bit bigger than the 4 wire phone line
connector, Is this the RJ-11?


So, it's most probably RJ11. An internal modem, perhaps? Steff
Yup, its RJ11, but I don't think it's a modem. On closer inspection it
has a ROM with a white label that says:
SSI NB256 V1.0
00 40 10-0 22 97 D
I think the second line looks like a MAC address, which makes it some
kind of LAN interface. Also there is a patent # which seems to be in
that area of tech. The PCB says Tut NuBus Assy #20194, so I think its
by:
TUT SYSTEMS INC.

http://www.tutsystems.com./

but I don't see any older products support. That always disappoints.

Is this what you call phone net ?
   No, 'Phone Net' plugs into the Printer port, and uses regular phone 
line
to connect to each computer. Not Super Fast, but it works.

   Michael





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SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-08 Thread John Niven
Just picked up one of these. It has two RJ-45 sockets! One has a 
terminator plugged in. Am I right in assuming that this second port is 
used to daisy chain to other Macs? Does one use a normal or x-over 
cable? What are the disadvantages of hooking up two Macs this way?

 Or does this offer two ports in one slot? That would be cool!

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Re: SSI NuBus Ethernet card

2004-04-08 Thread John Niven
I just tried to put an ethernet cable into one of the ports - it's too 
big! These are phone type connectors! What's that all about? :-)

John

On Thursday, April 8, 2004, at 02:07  PM, John Niven wrote:

Just picked up one of these. It has two RJ-45 sockets! One has a 
terminator plugged in. Am I right in assuming that this second port is 
used to daisy chain to other Macs? Does one use a normal or x-over 
cable? What are the disadvantages of hooking up two Macs this way?

 Or does this offer two ports in one slot? That would be cool!

John


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Cabletron NuBus Ethernet Card?

2003-08-04 Thread Jeff Walther
I just bought a NuBus ethernet card (I assume it's ethernet).   The 
interesting thing about this card is that it appears to be a 10/100 
card, but I'm not certain.   My hints are that it has only an RJ45 
connector (no AUI, nor BNC) and it has four LEDs instead of two. 
I've only ever seen four LEDs on 10/100 cards.

On the other hand, I thought 10/100 NuBus cards were pretty rare as 
10/100 ethernet and NuBus barely intersected, and so I assumed the 
Asante and Farralon (and maybe Dayna?) folks were the only ones who 
produced one.

So, does anyone have info on this card and/or Cabletron?  That is a 
brand with which I am not familiar.   Silkscreened on the end of the 
card is PN 9000343-05 Rev. B.   The back plane plate of the card 
has a sticker which reads E6119-X newline 940059800

Thanks for any info.

Jeff Walther

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Re: Cabletron NuBus Ethernet Card?

2003-08-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Jeff Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
clip
 So, does anyone have info on this card and/or
 Cabletron?  That is a 
 brand with which I am not familiar.   Silkscreened
 on the end of the 
 card is PN 9000343-05 Rev. B.   The back plane
 plate of the card 
 has a sticker which reads E6119-X newline
 940059800

It's supported by Debian 68k linux.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-68k/2003/debian-68k-200301/msg00015.html

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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-05 Thread Gregg Eshelman

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   The main problem with the Power Card is it
   blocks the LC PDS so you can be all hot with the
 601
   but can't have a video or ethernet card inside.
 
 Anybody remember what the product was called that
 added a tier to the 
 LC-series case? Supposedly it gave you room for
 another HD and it came with 
 a PDS-doubler board.

It was sold by www.micromac.com and way overpriced.

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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-05 Thread Mark Benson

On Tuesday, Nov 5, 2002, at 03:57 Europe/London, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Zowie, but amazingly expensive. This anything like what you've been
 writing about doing yourself instead, Mark?

Yeh it's damn rip-off :o) . If you've got a spare LC case, a few nuts 
and bolts, a jigsaw or skill saw and a bit of enthusiasm you needn't 
even bother considering it. I'm seriously considering seeing if I can 
build a PDS cable for my 805 hack to fit the ethernet card in the other 
half, I have all the bits, I just need to ask my dad for the wire.

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PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Charles Shannon Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 While we are talking about drivers...
 
 I have a PowerMac, and am considering a PPC upgrade
 for one of my 68k Mac systems.

Which 68k Mac? The 030 ones use the DayStar Turbo 601.
Most Quadras use the DayStar Power Pro. LC or
pizzabox 040 Performa, Centris and Quadra boxes
will need the DayStar Power Card. The Power Card
came in a couple of versions and plugs into the 040
CPU socket. The 040 then plugs on top of the Power
Card. The main problem with the Power Card is it
blocks the LC PDS so you can be all hot with the 601
but can't have a video or ethernet card inside. I've
seen a website where someone did a hack by obtaining
a pair of new LC PDS connectors then stacked them to
raise the connector above the Power Card. The whole
works was then stuffed into a desktop PC case. :)

For 601 upgraded 030 Macs, you need to use the DayStar
control panel. Installing System 7.5, which is the
minimum the DayStar PPC upgrades will run with, then
updating to 7.5.3 somehow changes the gestalt ID
to make it call itself (at least the IIci) a PowerMac
475! Then OS 8.0 and the 8.1 upgrade install with
no trouble at all. The PowerMac 475 would be the
LC or Performa 475 with a Power Card.

Apple sold their own versions of the Power Pro and
Power Card, so Apple's control panel or DayStar's
work. With the Turbo 601 in an 030 Mac, Apple's
control will only turn the 601 off, not on.

As for enablers with a DayStar or Apple 601 upgrade...

7.5.x requires an enabler on the PPC Disk Tools floppy
and in the System Folder of the hard drive. Do a clean
FAT install, then drop the enabler in the System
Folder.

7.6.x requires an enabler only on the PPC Disk Tools
floppy. To ensure proper support, do a clean FAT
install on the Mac with the upgrade installed and
activated using the control panel on the 68k Disk
Tools floppy. The Mac will restart then refuse to
boot from the 68k floppy, so pop in the PPC floppy
with the enabler in the System Folder.

8.0/8.1 requires no enabler at all for the 601
upgrade.

Zapping the PRAM turns the 601 upgrade off, so on an
030 running 8.1 you'll need a 7.5 to 7.6.1 68k disk
with the enabler and the control panel (just will
fit!) to turn the 601 back on.

 Is there a list of cards and drivers that work with
 a PPC based system?

No super comprehensive list yet. The main troubles
are with video cards. Many NuBus video cards will
work with a PPC, but none of their acceleration
features work. There are several video cards that
have issues or flat out don't work with Systems
higher than 7.5.2 or 7.5.3. The 24AC works fully
in 68k and PPC, but with ROM 1.0 it will not work
with anything higher than System 7.5.2. ROM 1.1
fixed that. ROM 1.0 24AC cards were only sold by
Radius, others were initial versions sent to Apple
Developers. Later Apple and Radius sold the 24AC
with ROM 1.1. There's no upgrade or fix, so don't
buy a 1.0 24AC unless you never intend to use it
with any System newer than 7.5.2.

The Apple 24*GC in a 68k is limited because its
acceleration drivers don't like Systems newer than
7.1. However when used in a PPC there is an ATi
extention that enables the acceleration on later
Mac OS versions. It should work in a 68k with a PPC
upgrade.

See the pickle's Mac FAQ for more info. URL is in
the footer somewhere below. :) 

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread beesley
Charles Shannon Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I run Cabletron and Asante nubus ethernet in 68k systems.  I got an 8100
 for free the other day, and it's having trouble running an Asante card.
 MacTCP works great, but Open Transport won't let it connect.  
 
 That's not entirely correct actually, because it did connect to the
 DHCP server and get it's address assigned.  It just won't use DNS or
 make connections after that.

It's unusual to encounter problems with DHCP after Open Transport 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 but 
it does happen with some servers. Given that it is assigning you the IP address, why 
not just enter the gateway address, subnet mask and DNS server addresses manually in 
the TCP/IP -- OT will continue to assign the IP address dynamically.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 02:19:10PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I run Cabletron and Asante nubus ethernet in 68k systems.  I got an 8100
  for free the other day, and it's having trouble running an Asante card.
  MacTCP works great, but Open Transport won't let it connect.  
  
  That's not entirely correct actually, because it did connect to the
  DHCP server and get it's address assigned.  It just won't use DNS or
  make connections after that.
 
 It's unusual to encounter problems with DHCP after Open Transport 1.1.1 or
 1.1.2 but it does happen with some servers. Given that it is assigning you
 the IP address, why not just enter the gateway address, subnet mask and DNS
 server addresses manually in the TCP/IP -- OT will continue to assign the IP
 address dynamically.

It got all that information from the DHCP server already.

The problem is that it cannot connect after installing OT.

NCSA Telnet, for example, works great with MacTCP.  Install OT and it
stops working.

I still wonder if it isn't something about using the Asante card instead of
the built-in networking.



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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:20:34AM -0800, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

 --- Charles Shannon Hendrix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  While we are talking about drivers...
  
  I have a PowerMac, and am considering a PPC upgrade
  for one of my 68k Mac systems.
 
 Which 68k Mac? The 030 ones use the DayStar Turbo 601.

I have a pair of Mac IIci.

 raise the connector above the Power Card. The whole
 works was then stuffed into a desktop PC case. :)

Ick.  One of the reasons I hate my PC is the cases usually suck.
They are a huge source of reliability problems.

 7.6.x requires an enabler only on the PPC Disk Tools
 floppy. To ensure proper support, do a clean FAT
 install on the Mac with the upgrade installed and
 activated using the control panel on the 68k Disk
 Tools floppy. The Mac will restart then refuse to
 boot from the 68k floppy, so pop in the PPC floppy
 with the enabler in the System Folder.

So this means that you must make floppies, and can't install from the
virtual disk images?

So far, I've done all upgrades with virtual floppy and CD images.

Also, I've noticed that my 8100 isn't as much faster than my Daystar 030
IIci as I expected.  I assume this is because of emulation.  It seemed
to get a little better with the 7.5.3 upgrade, I don't know.

Would running OS 8.6 on a 601 upgrade be a good idea, since that version
supposedly is (more) PPC optimized?

 Zapping the PRAM turns the 601 upgrade off, so on an
 030 running 8.1 you'll need a 7.5 to 7.6.1 68k disk
 with the enabler and the control panel (just will
 fit!) to turn the 601 back on.

You think it would be possible to Applescript something in the startup
folder to check for this sort of thing and turn it on?

It just seems like Applescript would be ideal for these sorts of boot
up issues, provided it has the needed hooks.

 No super comprehensive list yet. The main troubles are with video cards.
 Many NuBus video cards will

So I've noticed.

Oh well, it's fun to play around anyway.

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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread Kris Jones
  The main problem with the Power Card is it
  blocks the LC PDS so you can be all hot with the 601
  but can't have a video or ethernet card inside.

Anybody remember what the product was called that added a tier to the 
LC-series case? Supposedly it gave you room for another HD and it came with 
a PDS-doubler board.

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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread Snook, John R
Look here
http://www.micromac.com/products/lc_pws.html

Anybody remember what the product was called that added a tier to the 
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a PDS-doubler board.

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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread the pickle
At 10:44 -0800 on 04/11/02, Kris Jones wrote:

  The main problem with the Power Card is it
  blocks the LC PDS so you can be all hot with the 601
  but can't have a video or ethernet card inside.

Anybody remember what the product was called that added a tier to the
LC-series case? Supposedly it gave you room for another HD and it came with
a PDS-doubler board.

MicroMac made 'em but I can't remember what they're called.
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Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-04 Thread muskrat


Subject: Re: PPC upgrades for 68k Re: was: nubus ethernet
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:09:29 -0800 

Look here
http://www.micromac.com/products/lc_pws.html

Anybody remember what the product was called that added a tier to the 
LC-series case? Supposedly it gave you room for another HD and it came with 
a PDS-doubler board.

Zowie, but amazingly expensive. This anything like what you've been 
writing about doing yourself instead, Mark?

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 01:18:54AM -0800, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 
 Do they have a revision history with what's been fixed?  That is, IF they've
 ever released any updates to the original drivers. ;)

While we are talking about drivers...

I have a PowerMac, and am considering a PPC upgrade for one of my 68k
Mac systems.

Is there a list of cards and drivers that work with a PPC based system?

I run Cabletron and Asante nubus ethernet in 68k systems.  I got an 8100
for free the other day, and it's having trouble running an Asante card.
MacTCP works great, but Open Transport won't let it connect.  

That's not entirely correct actually, because it did connect to the
DHCP server and get it's address assigned.  It just won't use DNS or
make connections after that.

 $^#$^ companies that sell a product for 6 months, release ONE driver update
[snip]

Amen.  Just look how hard they make it to get old drivers for markets
they claim to have no further interest in. If that's true, then why not
give it up?

I plan on maintaining an organized list of drivers and I am going to
create a CD set for it.  It will take time, but it's insane how much
time it takes to run around gathering software for older machines.

The problem with current sites or old systems is that all too often they
link to others sites instead of archiving the files themselves.  While
I appreciate their efforts, the links go dead temporarily and sometimes
permantently too often.

We need an old computer archive that will be around, and won't rely
on other sites.

A guy I know is trying to create one.  The idea is to have a computer
history archive with pictures and information.  If you click on a link
to a machine, a Mac IIci for example, you get a list of drivers, OS,
and other necessary items.

The trick is getting people to contribute to the archive, and paying
for the hosting.

The only saving grace for a project like this is that most older systems
have smaller files, so storage isn't generally a problem.

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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 11:56:27AM -0700, Chris McFadden wrote:
 Might you be willing to sell one of them? I'm looking for one for a Mac
 IIci.

Do you happen to know if these will work on a PowerMac?

I have confirmed an Asante works on my 8100, though I am having trouble
making open transport work.  It's fine so far with MacTCP.

But I couldn't get drives to see the Cabletron cards in the 8100.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-03 Thread the pickle
At 22:04 -0500 on 03/11/02, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:

I have a PowerMac, and am considering a PPC upgrade for one of my 68k
Mac systems.

Is there a list of cards and drivers that work with a PPC based system?

The Read Me files with the Daystar PPC upgrades have a pretty comprehensive
list.

We need an old computer archive that will be around, and won't rely
on other sites.

You mean like macdrivermuseum.com?
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-03 Thread Charles Shannon Hendrix
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:26:38PM -0500, the pickle wrote:

 You mean like macdrivermuseum.com?

No.  While they have local files, a lot are links to other sites, some
of which are not there.

I mean a site where everything (and more than just drivers) are there,
not remote links.

I'm gradually building mirrors, scheduling them to run nightly, even
stuff I don't need myself.

So, one of these days I'll have this big DVD... :)

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Problem found. was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-01 Thread Luigi Elia
Gregg wrote:
At the least, update the drivers for it on the
computer it's connected to.

Another way around it is to get a 10/100 managed
switch with several ports. That way you can connect
the DSL modem to the switch and program the switch
ports for what's connected to each one. The switch
will properly autonegotiate with the modem.

News:
Today I tried to download a big attach with eudoralite. Couldn't believe my 
eyes. The speed was almost 10 Times faster than with Musashi. 
Backcheck: Even though I upgraded Musashi's version the speed remained 
awfully slow. (It looks good, but a 68k isn't really the machine it was 
written for!)
Thanks folks for your help. 
For sure changing the modem's setting or sandwiching a hub/switch could 
improve my downloads even more, but waiting 4 minutes for 5 megs is at 
the moment OK for me.
It's just strange that a company distributes software with such big bugs in 
it, claiming it's written for those who stick to 68k... Like a Ferrari 
with an engine of a Fiat 500!
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-01 Thread the pickle
At 21:06 -0800 on 31/10/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/support.htm

Driver updates and User's Guides for Alcatel DSL
modems. There you should find how to access the
modem's settings, most likely by using a Web

Guuuh.  Alcatel has the worst Mac drivers EVER.  Definitely get a router.
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-01 Thread Mark Benson

On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 13:11 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
 Guuuh.  Alcatel has the worst Mac drivers EVER.  Definitely get a 
 router.

I'll second that, but at least the HAVE mac drivers.

offtopic
Our server we had in our house when i was at university had an Alcatel 
Speedtouch USB DSL modem. On the rare occasions it dropped the 
connection we had to reset the WHOLE server as reconnecting it after 
our ISP dropped the line caused the whole OS (OS X 10.1.x Server) to 
Kernel Panic!!!
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-11-01 Thread the pickle
At 00:52 + on 02/11/02, Mark Benson wrote:

On Friday, Nov 1, 2002, at 13:11 Europe/London, the pickle wrote:
 Guuuh.  Alcatel has the worst Mac drivers EVER.  Definitely get a
 router.

I'll second that, but at least the HAVE mac drivers.

Not in the US.  At least not that I had found last time I looked, which,
admittedly, was a while back.  Doesn't help that most of their crap is
USB-based either...
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was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Luigi Elia
Hi all,
I have a very fast ADSL connection (up to 150 kB/s), but my LC III (20 MB 
Ram  Fpu) and my 
Asante nubus Chipset LC 20028 Nic card (MacCon-A, 32k Ram, 7.3.5 Driver 
(That's what the 
Asante utility displays)) don't really seem to care. Downloading a 2 MB 
attach can take me up to half an hour!
What's the problem? 
Hardware (there's a fpu slot or similar on it) or Software (Drivers are 
from the macmuseum)?
Can I swap the fpu to the card? (does it make any sense?) 
What should be the max speed achievable with my setup?
Thanks in advance...
john 

At 15:23 -0700 on 30/10/02, Desert Fox wrote:

I just wish I had a pile of the 100bT NuBus cards lying around. They 
aren't
PCI 100bT but they are indeed faster than 10bT.

Care to back that up with evidence?  The SCSI bus on most 68K Macs is 
hardly
enough to saturate 10BaseT, much less 100.
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread luigi . elia
Hì pickle,
Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice over IP (dhcp server)
which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client (musashi 3) is too
particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test eudora with a bigger-than-normal
file.
Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the phone company, so it's
not changeable)
cheers
john
the pickle wrote:
I have a very fast ADSL connection (up to 150 kB/s), but my LC III (20
MB
Ram  Fpu) and my
Asante nubus Chipset LC 20028 Nic card (MacCon-A, 32k Ram, 7.3.5 Driver
(That's what the
Asante utility displays)) don't really seem to care. Downloading a 2 MB
attach can take me up to half an hour!

Any chance you have that set up on any autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to autonegotiate speeds and
duplexing.
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman
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 At 10:09 +0200 on 31/10/02, Luigi Elia wrote:

 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

Luigi, see if you can set your router, switch or
hub manually to 10 Megabit per second and half
duplex on the port your old Mac is connected to.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 17:50 +0100 on 31/10/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice over IP (dhcp server)
which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client (musashi 3) is too
particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test eudora with a
bigger-than-normal
file.
Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the phone company, so it's
not changeable)

Stick a 10BaseT hub between the Mac and the modem.
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread the pickle
At 13:18 -0800 on 31/10/02, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

--- the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 10:09 +0200 on 31/10/02, Luigi Elia wrote:

 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

I'm not sure there are any non-PCI cards period that can run full duplex
without lots of problems.
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was: Nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Luigi Elia
 The pickle wrote:

 Any chance you have that set up on any
 autonegotiating Ethernet hardware?
 Asante cards seem to particularly hate trying to
 autonegotiate speeds and
 duplexing.

Gregg wrote:
Any NuBus or LC NICs that can run full duplex?

Luigi, see if you can set your router, switch or
hub manually to 10 Megabit per second and half
duplex on the port your old Mac is connected to.


I'm sorry Gregg, but my ADSL modem stands alone. It's connected to the 
phone line and a splitter for doin' voice over IP calls and I can't really 
change any setting on it as it's not installed on any machine. From the 
modem goes an Rj45 to my NiC...
Tomorrow I'll test the downloading with Eudora, as I have a sentry that the 
email client could be the source of these long downloads
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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hì pickle,
 Yes indeed I have an Alcatel ADSL Modem for Voice
 over IP (dhcp server)
 which probably is an autonegotiator! My email client
 (musashi 3) is too
 particularly slow compared to eudoralite. I'll test
 eudora with a bigger-than-normal
 file.
 Are there walkarounds? (The Modem belongs to the
 phone company, so it's not changeable)

http://www.speedtouchdsl.com/support.htm

Driver updates and User's Guides for Alcatel DSL
modems. There you should find how to access the
modem's settings, most likely by using a Web
browser or a Telnet application pointed to the
modem/router's IP address. 'Course your phone company
may have set a password on the hardware, but it's
worth a try. :) If there is a password, call your
DSL provider and tell them you need the one port (if
it has more than one) set to 10Mbit half duplex.

At the least, update the drivers for it on the
computer it's connected to.

Another way around it is to get a 10/100 managed
switch with several ports. That way you can connect
the DSL modem to the switch and program the switch
ports for what's connected to each one. The switch
will properly autonegotiate with the modem.

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Re: was: nubus ethernet

2002-10-31 Thread Robyn Lyons
First attempt, try going to http://192.168.100.1  That is a rather 
common modem (both cable, dsl) configuration address.

-Robyn

On Thursday, October 31, 2002, at 11:06 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:

 Driver updates and User's Guides for Alcatel DSL
 modems. There you should find how to access the
 modem's settings, most likely by using a Web
 browser or a Telnet application pointed to the
 modem/router's IP address. 'Course your phone company
 may have set a password on the hardware, but it's
 worth a try. :) If there is a password, call your
 DSL provider and tell them you need the one port (if
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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Chris McFadden
Might you be willing to sell one of them? I'm looking for one for a Mac
IIci.

Chris McFadden

 I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards (nubus 10baseT).

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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Kris Jones
I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards (nubus 10baseT).

For a Mac IIci, does anyone have an opinion on which one is the best?

Asante. I think they have more accessable drivers. Well, until they were 
bought by Intel, that is.

Farallon and Asante are my faves. Everyone else is just 3rd Party IMHO.


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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Desert Fox
The only other mentionable NuBus Ethernet cards I have employed have been
Sonic Systems 10bT and also a 10/100bT Fast card of theirs, and  a Dayna
FastEthernet 10/100bT LC in a Performa 475 w/ full 040 and chip to 33Mhz.
All the remaining NuBus Ethernet NICs I have used have been Asanté MacCon3
NuBus with RJ-45, AUI and BNC connectors.

I just wish I had a pile of the 100bT NuBus cards lying around. They aren't
PCI 100bT but they are indeed faster than 10bT.

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on 10/30/02 1:21 PM, Kris Jones at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:

 I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards (nubus 10baseT).
 
 For a Mac IIci, does anyone have an opinion on which one is the best?
 
 Asante. I think they have more accessable drivers. Well, until they were
 bought by Intel, that is.
 
 Farallon and Asante are my faves. Everyone else is just 3rd Party IMHO.


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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread the pickle
At 11:02 -0500 on 30/10/02, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:

I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards (nubus 10baseT).

For a Mac IIci, does anyone have an opinion on which one is the best?

Asante are easier to get drivers for but they have known autosensing speed
issues with Linksys hardware in particular, although they may have issues in
general.  No idea whether Cabletron has the same problem or not as they're rare
enough that not many people have mentioned them.
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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread the pickle
At 15:23 -0700 on 30/10/02, Desert Fox wrote:

I just wish I had a pile of the 100bT NuBus cards lying around. They aren't
PCI 100bT but they are indeed faster than 10bT.

Care to back that up with evidence?  The SCSI bus on most 68K Macs is hardly
enough to saturate 10BaseT, much less 100.
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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Desert Fox
Indeed, the most dramatic case of 100bT NuBus actually accomplishing decent
throughput is in a NuBus PPC Mac (6100/7100/8100/PowerComputing 120). I have
an 8150/110 with a NewerTech G3/240 that shows a dramatic difference between
built-in AAUI Ethernet, 10bT Asanté NuBus and the Sonic 100bT screamer.
Another is in a Power Computing Power120 with a Sonnet G3 upgrade card
installed. I only have two of them so (as you pointed out) after finding the
improvement less-than-stellar in the 68k machines, I migrated them up to
these PPC NuBus Macs.

So I should change my statement and say that I wish I had a 100bT NuBus card
for each PPC NuBus Mac I have...

Even running A/UX 3.1.1 with AppleShare Pro, I am not seeing any better than
800K/sec via 10bT.


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 At 15:23 -0700 on 30/10/02, Desert Fox wrote:
 
 I just wish I had a pile of the 100bT NuBus cards lying around. They aren't
 PCI 100bT but they are indeed faster than 10bT.
 
 Care to back that up with evidence?  The SCSI bus on most 68K Macs is hardly
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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Gregg Eshelman

--- Kris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards
 (nubus 10baseT).
 
 For a Mac IIci, does anyone have an opinion on
 which one is the best?
 
 Asante. I think they have more accessable drivers.
 Well, until they were bought by Intel, that is.

When did Apple make their Ethernet NB driver support
most Asante NuBus NICs? Likewise, Apple's Ethernet LC
driver supports most Asante LC NICs. (I just don't
know which System version the support started in.)

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Re: nubus ethernet

2002-10-30 Thread Clark Martin
At 8:51 PM -0800 10/30/2002, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
--- Kris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a pile of Asante and Cabletron network cards
  (nubus 10baseT).
  
  For a Mac IIci, does anyone have an opinion on
  which one is the best?

  Asante. I think they have more accessable drivers.
  Well, until they were bought by Intel, that is.

When did Apple make their Ethernet NB driver support
most Asante NuBus NICs? Likewise, Apple's Ethernet LC
driver supports most Asante LC NICs. (I just don't
know which System version the support started in.)


I don't think Apple ever wrote their NB drivers or LC drivers to 
support any other NICS, other companies made their NICs to look like 
Apples.  AFAIK ALL LC NICs look like Apple's LC NIC.

What's nasty is that some 3rd party NB NICs ALMOST work with Apple's 
driver.  It will see them and let you select them but then won't work 
properly.
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Re: NuBus Ethernet card to a DSL Router

2002-05-06 Thread KADaggett

My Reply follows quote. On 06/05/2002 14:51 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Samuel Davies)
Hoping you all can help.

I am having with my network card.

Here is my set up:

Macintosh IIci with Apple Cache card
128 MB RAM
Radius 24XP Graphics Card
Asante MacCon NuBus ethernet card
Clean 7.5 system folder with the exception of the Asante NuBus driver.

Here is my problem:

I cannot seem to connect it to my Netgear R114 DSL router successfully.  
When connected via RJ45 ethernet cable, the indicator lights (10BT) on 
the router do not indicate an ethernet card.  The LEDs on the card 
itself, blink green which according to the manual indicates network 
activity.  I found this card new/sealed in box so the card probably 
works.
-
Some of the older cards have trouble connecting to autosensing switches. 
It is possible that your router may be causing the same trouble. One way 
I have fixed this is to put a cheap (about $15) 10baseT hub between the 
Mac and the switch. Worked as advertised with this setup.

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Re: NuBus Ethernet card to a DSL Router

2002-05-06 Thread the pickle

At 17:50 -0400 on 06/05/02, Samuel Davies wrote:

Clean 7.5 system folder with the exception of the Asante NuBus driver.

Here is my problem:

I cannot seem to connect it to my Netgear R114 DSL router successfully.
When connected via RJ45 ethernet cable, the indicator lights (10BT) on
the router do not indicate an ethernet card.  The LEDs on the card
itself, blink green which according to the manual indicates network
activity.  I found this card new/sealed in box so the card probably
works.

Grab Open Transport from the links in the FAQ and install that.  Then try
putting a 10BaseT hub between the card and the router - that *might* help.

Also, within MacTCP I do not know how to configure the mac software
correctly.  My router does both DHCP and BootP.

That's where Open Transport will help :)

Threemacs.com is also a good site to check out.

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Re: Nubus Ethernet

2001-11-04 Thread Robert Poland

Just read
 Re: your question about HFS+... That makes absolutely no difference. Each
  machine  OS will address its own hard drive. OS 7.1.1 on your IIci doesn't
  have to read the HFS+ hard drive in your PB-G4 directly.

  Iechyd Da, Andrew...

I am having trouble trying to share files between The current HFS 
(extended) format and a system that has the HFS extended Maximized.

Does the above apply to HFS extended Maximized too?

I emailed Alsoft, makers of Plus Maximizer and got no answer.

In the event that my terminology is confusing, here is my Definitions...
HFS- pre OS 8 HD format
HFS+- System OS 8.6 HD (extended) optional format
HFS+ Maximized- System OS 8.6 HD optional format maximized with 
Plus Maximizer

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Re: Nubus Ethernet solved (for me)

2001-11-04 Thread Robert Poland

Just read
 Re: your question about HFS+... That makes absolutely no difference. Each
   machine  OS will address its own hard drive. OS 7.1.1 on your IIci doesn't
   have to read the HFS+ hard drive in your PB-G4 directly.

   Iechyd Da, Andrew...

I am having trouble trying to share files between The current HFS
(extended) format and a system that has the HFS extended Maximized.

Does the above apply to HFS extended Maximized too?

I emailed Alsoft, makers of Plus Maximizer and got no answer.

In the event that my terminology is confusing, here is my Definitions...
HFS- pre OS 8 HD format
HFS+- System OS 8.6 HD (extended) optional format
HFS+ Maximized- System OS 8.6 HD optional format maximized with
Plus Maximizer

I just got a note from [EMAIL PROTECTED](Vintage 
Macs) that suggested trying Appleshare 3.8 on the old (8.1) system. I 
tried Appleshare 3.8.8 and that cured the filesharing problem.

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Re: Nubus Ethernet

2001-11-03 Thread Andrew Michael MacTao

Jesse Parkerton wrote:
 I just got two nubus ethernet cards for the IIci, but I am having some
problems.   

 I am trying to fileshare with my PBG4, running 9.2.1.

I had a similar problem trying to ethernet my IIci to a friend's 
iMac DV (OS 9.0). It wasn't a big problem, since I just wanted to 
swap a few files with him, so, I never pursued a solution.
My IIci also has an Asante NuBus ethernet card, which talks just 
fine to my PM7100/80/Sonnet G3/260...

...Come to think of it though, My 7100 has a Farallon EtherWave 
adapter which seems to auto-switch for crossover...

Are you using a crossover Cat-5 cable or straight-through?

Re: your question about HFS+... That makes absolutely no 
difference. Each machine  OS will address its own hard drive. OS 
7.1.1 on your IIci doesn't have to read the HFS+ hard drive in your 
PB-G4 directly.

Iechyd Da,
Andrew

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Re: nubus ethernet/firewall on IIsi to PM8100

2001-09-09 Thread the pickle

At 09:00 -0700 on 07/09/01, John Oliver wrote:

HI there - I own an IIsi which has a nubus ethernet card in the PDS slot
(with adapter) and an 8100 (PPC) with built-in ethernet. Does anyone know if
I could use the card in the IIsi in the 8100? I'd like to set up a firewall
using the 8100 and need two ethernet connections to do it.

Usually, yes.  I don't know of any NuBus Ethernet cards that aren't
PPC-compatible.

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Re: nubus ethernet/firewall on IIsi to PM8100

2001-09-08 Thread Andrew Michael MacTao

John Oliver wrote:
HI there - I own an IIsi which has a nubus ethernet card in the PDS slot
(with adapter) and an 8100 (PPC) with built-in ethernet. Does anyone know if
I could use the card in the IIsi in the 8100? I'd like to set up a firewall
using the 8100 and need two ethernet connections to do it.

I've never tried it. But, the 8100 is a NuBus PowerMac. So, your 
NuBus ethernet card should work.
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Lots of folks there have done network  firewall setups with X100 PowerMacs.

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