Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In 
Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click and 
use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific 
application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 file, 
it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which will 
allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader or 
all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is 
possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a 
word-around.

Thanks for any tips or information.

Joseph


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Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts whereever I am on my iPhone

2014-06-29 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Paul. I use an app on my phone called iMap Weather Radio which is $9 in the 
app store. I know that it's been discussed several times but recently they came 
out with an update with a couple  changes that I at least like. The first one 
is that if you've added cities to your favorites, there's now a play button at 
the bottom of the screen that when pressed will prompt the built-in voice to 
read current conditions for your cities as well as any weather warnings in that 
particular area. The second one is, and I'm happy about this, they finally 
stopped using the Cepstral William voice. Now, Samantha reads anything, though 
I have yet to investigate if you can change the voice somewhere. Also, if 
you've set weather alerts up, the app will alert you at the lock screen or 
anywhere in the phone and if you double tap on the alert, the app will open and 
there will be a play button to listen to the full details of the warning. In my 
opinion, it's worth the $9 or $10. Good luck with choosing whatever app you're 
gonna use.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

On Jun 28, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com 
wrote:

 Hi, John.  I was looking in the app store for WX Alert and found one for
 MInnasota, one which says KS, OK and SD, but nothing that seems to cover the
 whole country.  Any thoughts.  I live in Ohio, but sometimes go other
 places, so a nationwide alert app would be good.  I have storm shield which
 works for some, but not all, cities I go to.  Thanks in advance.
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
 
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 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:05 AM
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 Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
 whereever I am on my iPhone
 
 WX Alert is a good app for this purpose assuming you are in the U.S.
 
 On 6/26/14, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Hi okay I have the iPhone 5 and what I would like is to have an app 
 that is good for receiving severe weather alerts wherever I am with my
 iPhone.
 And it needs to work well with voice over as well.
 I have the app called weather radio and the one called NOAH weather radio.
 But I would really just like one app that I can get the forecast and 
 get the serve weather alerts wherever I happen to be.
 I have heard of an app called weather center does anyone know anything 
 about this app?
 From what I Google it said that it was in partnership with middle n 
 and there weather radios.
 So I know that post really doesn't sound like much but I hope that I 
 will get some suggestions on this.
 
 
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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to 
open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system 
wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my 
recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice 
Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a 
per app basis.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click and
use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 file,
it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which will
allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader or
all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
word-around.

Thanks for any tips or information.

Joseph




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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?

Joseph


- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
per app basis.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
 Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click 
 and
 use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
 application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 file,
 it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

 I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which 
 will
 allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader 
 or
 all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
 possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
 word-around.

 Thanks for any tips or information.

 Joseph



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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
No but it's all down to the sandboxed file system Apple uses. When iOS 8 
is released to the public in the Fall this will still be the case 
however a new iCloud feature called iCloud Drive should allow you to 
store documents and other things in your cloud space. So although not an 
entire open approach one would hope to be able to see and manage what's 
in their cloud space.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 08:39, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?

Joseph


- Original Message -
From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
per app basis.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click
and
use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 file,
it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which
will
allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader
or
all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
word-around.

Thanks for any tips or information.

Joseph






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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I'm asking others for their thoughts on the matter. I'm fairly certain I 
already know all you can suggest. Thank you.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


No but it's all down to the sandboxed file system Apple uses. When iOS 8
is released to the public in the Fall this will still be the case
however a new iCloud feature called iCloud Drive should allow you to
store documents and other things in your cloud space. So although not an
entire open approach one would hope to be able to see and manage what's
in their cloud space.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 08:39, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?

 Joseph


 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


 Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
 open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
 wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
 recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
 Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
 per app basis.

 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu

 On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
 Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click
 and
 use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
 application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 
 file,
 it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

 I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which
 will
 allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader
 or
 all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
 possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
 word-around.

 Thanks for any tips or information.

 Joseph




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fore square and swarm

2014-06-29 Thread janet wright
hi all sence yesterday I go to check in with foresquare and swarm comes up 
and I just want to use fore square what do I do I uninstall swarm and when I 
go check in it wants me to download swarm any suggestions?
*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to 
wait on the blessing he has in store for me!

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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
In my experience, it's a very qualified yes. One recent example is that I 
used a downloding app to get an image pdf on my iPod. When I double-tapped on 
the downloaded file, I was given a choice of apps to open it. One of these was 
Prizmo, which has an OCR option in it. I usually use downloading apps or 
cloud-service apps to do this sort of thing.

As far as I can tell, there's no way to set a default app to open a file. If 
there are several apps that will do the job, they are all presented as options 
from the open with button.

HtH,
Teresa 

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'm asking others for their thoughts on the matter. I'm fairly certain I 
 already know all you can suggest. Thank you.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:39 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?
 
 
 No but it's all down to the sandboxed file system Apple uses. When iOS 8
 is released to the public in the Fall this will still be the case
 however a new iCloud feature called iCloud Drive should allow you to
 store documents and other things in your cloud space. So although not an
 entire open approach one would hope to be able to see and manage what's
 in their cloud space.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 29/06/2014 08:39, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?
 
 Joseph
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?
 
 
 Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
 open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
 wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
 recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
 Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
 per app basis.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
 Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click
 and
 use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
 application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3 
 file,
 it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.
 
 I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which
 will
 allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader
 or
 all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
 possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
 word-around.
 
 Thanks for any tips or information.
 
 Joseph
 
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Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

2014-06-29 Thread Jen Colley
Hi,  
I am wondering if there is an accessible flier app that works in Canada.  I 
love to look at fliers to see what is on sale where but of course when you have 
no vision this is not the easiest way.  
Just wondering if anyone knows of an accessible app.  
Thanks.  
Jen  

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RE: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

2014-06-29 Thread Reg Sullivan
Jen, my experience has been better with individual store chains and their
flyers.

Many of them have accessible apps now, E.G. Metro Grocery, Sobeys's,
shoppers Drug mart, etc.!

 

Cheers.Reg

 

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

 

Hi,  

I am wondering if there is an accessible flier app that works in Canada.  I
love to look at fliers to see what is on sale where but of course when you
have no vision this is not the easiest way.  

Just wondering if anyone knows of an accessible app.  

Thanks.  

Jen  

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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi Teresa,

If I may ask, what was that downloading app you referred to?--sounds very 
interesting. I had a heck of a time trying to get Microsoft's OneNote to 
open my files--actually, the files would open and play, its just that I 
couldn't close them and navigate back to my list of OneDrive folders. This 
is similar to the problem with the newly released Microsoft Office 
Mobile--you can open a file, its closing it which is the problem.

Ideally, I'd like to find an app or a manner of specifying the app I would 
like to open types of files such as text files with X app, music files with 
Y app, and .doc apps with Z app.

Thanks for any information you can provide.

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From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


In my experience, it's a very qualified yes. One recent example is that I 
used a downloding app to get an image pdf on my iPod. When I double-tapped 
on the downloaded file, I was given a choice of apps to open it. One of 
these was Prizmo, which has an OCR option in it. I usually use downloading 
apps or cloud-service apps to do this sort of thing.

As far as I can tell, there's no way to set a default app to open a file. If 
there are several apps that will do the job, they are all presented as 
options from the open with button.

HtH,
Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I'm asking others for their thoughts on the matter. I'm fairly certain I
 already know all you can suggest. Thank you.

 Joseph

 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:39 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


 No but it's all down to the sandboxed file system Apple uses. When iOS 8
 is released to the public in the Fall this will still be the case
 however a new iCloud feature called iCloud Drive should allow you to
 store documents and other things in your cloud space. So although not an
 entire open approach one would hope to be able to see and manage what's
 in their cloud space.

 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu

 On 29/06/2014 08:39, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?

 Joseph


 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?


 Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
 open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
 wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
 recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
 Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
 per app basis.

 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu

 On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
 Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click
 and
 use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
 application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3
 file,
 it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.

 I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which
 will
 allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader
 or
 all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
 possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
 word-around.

 Thanks for any tips or information.

 Joseph

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Re: Does iOS have open with option?

2014-06-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Joseph,

Unfortunately, except for specific file types that are proprietary, I don't 
think you'll be able to do file associations with specific apps.

Two download apps I can think of off the top of my head are Filer and 
Downloads. Dropbox will also give you options for opening specific files.

I'm not familiar with the apps you mention, so perhaps someone else can comment 
on those.

HtH,
Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 
 If I may ask, what was that downloading app you referred to?--sounds very 
 interesting. I had a heck of a time trying to get Microsoft's OneNote to 
 open my files--actually, the files would open and play, its just that I 
 couldn't close them and navigate back to my list of OneDrive folders. This 
 is similar to the problem with the newly released Microsoft Office 
 Mobile--you can open a file, its closing it which is the problem.
 
 Ideally, I'd like to find an app or a manner of specifying the app I would 
 like to open types of files such as text files with X app, music files with 
 Y app, and .doc apps with Z app.
 
 Thanks for any information you can provide.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:32 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?
 
 
 In my experience, it's a very qualified yes. One recent example is that I 
 used a downloding app to get an image pdf on my iPod. When I double-tapped 
 on the downloaded file, I was given a choice of apps to open it. One of 
 these was Prizmo, which has an OCR option in it. I usually use downloading 
 apps or cloud-service apps to do this sort of thing.
 
 As far as I can tell, there's no way to set a default app to open a file. If 
 there are several apps that will do the job, they are all presented as 
 options from the open with button.
 
 HtH,
 Teresa
 
 Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
 How I wonder what you're at
 --Lewis Carroll
 
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:48 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'm asking others for their thoughts on the matter. I'm fairly certain I
 already know all you can suggest. Thank you.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:39 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?
 
 
 No but it's all down to the sandboxed file system Apple uses. When iOS 8
 is released to the public in the Fall this will still be the case
 however a new iCloud feature called iCloud Drive should allow you to
 store documents and other things in your cloud space. So although not an
 entire open approach one would hope to be able to see and manage what's
 in their cloud space.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 29/06/2014 08:39, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Anybody else have an opinion on this issue?
 
 Joseph
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Hallsworth christopher...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 AM
 Subject: Re: Does iOS have open with option?
 
 
 Not possible. Apps that can open and save files can have the ability to
 open and or save files from and or to other apps. But this is not system
 wide. For example with Dropbox and an app like Audio Share I can save my
 recordings from AudioShare to Dropbox. It might be the same for Voice
 Dreamreader. As you can see it's complex because the facility is on a
 per app basis.
 
 Christopher Hallsworth
 Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
 www.hadley.edu
 
 On 29/06/2014 07:56, Joseph FreeTech wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know if there is a type of open with option within iOS? In
 Windows, one can highlight something like an MP3 file, then right click
 and
 use open with to assign that type of file extension to a specific
 application. The end result is that when one presses enter on an MP3
 file,
 it can be played with Winamp as opposed to Windows media player.
 
 I'm wondering if there is some sort of hidden setting within iOS which
 will
 allow me to configure all MP3 files to be played with voice Dream Reader
 or
 all text files to be opened in the Notes app. I don't think this is
 possible, but there's lots of experienced users here who might have a
 word-around.
 
 Thanks for any tips or information.
 
 Joseph
 
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voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread 'Candy' via VIPhone

Hello everyone,
I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault 
with voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go 
through all of the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be 
found.  It doesn't appearin the folders where all of the books 
appearwhen I download them from bookshare.  I have been able to download 
the movies with the IOs downloaded, but, thought I would have more 
control with voice dream reader.  The IOs downloaded does not give me 
too much control when playing the movie back.  I am open for any 
suggestions.  I know that I can download the movies to my computer and 
then transfer them to my phone, but, I need to have the option of 
getting them on my phone with the apps when I am not at home with my 
computer.  Any help is appreciated.
I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the 
problem I have with this app is the control in the player when listening 
to a movie.  For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up 
or down to change the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I 
swipe up or down, and nothing.


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RE: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Candy,

As far as Ubidisk is concerned, try a pass-through gesture first on your
playback slider first, i.e. do a double tap and hold when it says 1%, then
carefully slide left or right without lifting your finger first. Quite often
this will work if a more Voiceover oriented gesture does not.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

Hello everyone,
I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault 
with voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go 
through all of the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be 
found.  It doesn't appearin the folders where all of the books 
appearwhen I download them from bookshare.  I have been able to download 
the movies with the IOs downloaded, but, thought I would have more 
control with voice dream reader.  The IOs downloaded does not give me 
too much control when playing the movie back.  I am open for any 
suggestions.  I know that I can download the movies to my computer and 
then transfer them to my phone, but, I need to have the option of 
getting them on my phone with the apps when I am not at home with my 
computer.  Any help is appreciated.
I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the 
problem I have with this app is the control in the player when listening 
to a movie.  For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up 
or down to change the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I 
swipe up or down, and nothing.

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Twitter question.

2014-06-29 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Hello list,
please does anyone know how to access and manage lists using regular Twitter 
for IOS?
Thanks for help in advance.
Regards
Maria

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Help redeeming eBay bucks

2014-06-29 Thread Ann


Sent from my iPhone hello, I have been getting into using eBay for shopping for 
items that I need. I was wondering, if anyone could help me regarding redeeming 
and using eBay books using the iPhone app for eBay thank you in advance for any 
help you may give me.

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Interesting observation with iPhone is this normal?

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth

Hi all
I have an interesting observation with my iPhone 4s and asking is the 
below normal.
I added a contact who has a U.S. cellular number. When I attempted to 
send them a message it wanted to send a text not an iMessage. So backed 
out, double check the contact and turns out the iPhone inserted plus 44 
in front of the number. Yes I am in the UK. I then recalled that plus 1 
is for the U.S. So I put this in front of the number and now all is 
well. I might know of a feature called dial assist is the culprit here. 
Am I right here and if so should I turn this off to remove this perhaps 
helpless assumption that all numbers I add are UK based when truly 
they're not? Any comments greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts whereever I am on my iPhone

2014-06-29 Thread Pinky
Hi,

Try the app called Overcast.  This is a very easy to use app and it is also
very VO friendly.

Ed

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Of Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone

Hi, John.  I was looking in the app store for WX Alert and found one for
MInnasota, one which says KS, OK and SD, but nothing that seems to cover the
whole country.  Any thoughts.  I live in Ohio, but sometimes go other
places, so a nationwide alert app would be good.  I have storm shield which
works for some, but not all, cities I go to.  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone

WX Alert is a good app for this purpose assuming you are in the U.S.

On 6/26/14, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Hi okay I have the iPhone 5 and what I would like is to have an app 
 that is good for receiving severe weather alerts wherever I am with my
iPhone.
 And it needs to work well with voice over as well.
 I have the app called weather radio and the one called NOAH weather radio.
 But I would really just like one app that I can get the forecast and 
 get the serve weather alerts wherever I happen to be.
 I have heard of an app called weather center does anyone know anything 
 about this app?
  From what I Google it said that it was in partnership with middle n 
 and there weather radios.
 So I know that post really doesn't sound like much but I hope that I 
 will get some suggestions on this.


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RE: Help redeeming eBay bucks

2014-06-29 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi Ann, 

EBay bucks can be redeemed within about five days after each quarter ends. I
think the emails should be out between July 3rd and 7th. It does fluctuate
sometimes. You can follow the link in the email to redeem your Ebay bucks. I
have also noticed that If I am making a purchase and have Ebay bucks
available, they are automatically deducted from the amount due. 

HTH 

Lynda 
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Subject: Help redeeming eBay bucks



Sent from my iPhone hello, I have been getting into using eBay for shopping
for items that I need. I was wondering, if anyone could help me regarding
redeeming and using eBay books using the iPhone app for eBay thank you in
advance for any help you may give me.

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New Behavior With Music

2014-06-29 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi, 

I have noticed that I am being asked to put in my password for Itunes to
listen to music that I have all ready purchased. Is anyone else experiencing
this change? 

Thank you in advance, 

Lynda 

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EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread Lynda Ingraham
I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay app, but
it is much slower to read about the items in a search. 

Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would be shown
on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time left.
Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the rest of
the information on separate lines. 

Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a color
choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select. 

Any help would be very much appreciated. 

Lynda 

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Re: EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread MamaPeach

I think it is the way it is shown now. Mine is the same

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From: Lynda Ingraham

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: EBay App

I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay app, but
it is much slower to read about the items in a search.

Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would be shown
on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time left.
Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the rest of
the information on separate lines.

Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a color
choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Lynda

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Re: fore square and swarm

2014-06-29 Thread Andy Baracco
I have the same issue. I downloaded Swarm, but occasionally FS still asks me to 
download it.

Andy

From: janet wright 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: fore square and swarm
hi all sence yesterday I go to check in with foresquare and swarm comes up and 
I just want to use fore square what do I do I uninstall swarm and when I go 
check in it wants me to download swarm any suggestions?
*** God has a plan for me. I may not see it right away but I'm willing to wait 
on the blessing he has in store for me!

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Re: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Gallik
Yes, I need to chime in here with a sincere Thank You since Joseph did 
answer my initial question with such aplomb!


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Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC


Hi Joseph;

Thank you for such a intuitive tutorial.
I'm sure the rest of the group would AGGREE that it is outstanding.

Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:49 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Bill,

I'm not exactly sure of the type of information you are requesting, but if
you want access to a file created by an app on your iOS device, or if you
want to save iOS files to your desktop, try this...

1. Attach iDevice to computer.

2. Launch iTunes if it is not automatically opened.

3. Using your tab key, work your way over to the sources tree view then
navigate to and highlight your iOS device by using down arrow keys.

4. Once your iOS device has been highlighted, tab to the Apps radio 
button

tab. Press the spacebar to check it. Wait about 30 seconds for iTunes to
gather related information.

5. Press Shift+F6 about 7 times or until you reach the Apps tree view.
This is a list containing all the apps which you can use to move files to
and from your desktop and iOS device.

6. You can now select an app for which you want to either add files from
your computer, or save files from your iOS device to your computer. You
select an app by using your up or down arrow keys. Keep in mind that this
step merely selects the app of interest.

7. Once you have selected your app of interest, simply tab once to access
the list of files associated with the app. For example, if you selected 
the

Numbers app in the previous step, this step will show you all of the files
associated with Numbers. You need only press down arrow to select a file.

8. After having selected a file, to move the file to your desktop press 
the

tab key until you find the following item then press enter:
Save to...

9. Type in a path such as c:\iOSTransfers\ and press enter.

10. The file will be saved to your desktop's hard drive in the folder you
selected.

11. If you want to reverse the process and take a file from your desktop 
and
move it into your iOS device, simply follow the previous steps 1 through 
6.


12. Now tab to Add... and press Enter.

13. You can use this dialogue to type in an exact path such as
c:\Documents\Phone numbers.txt and press enter, or you can use this 
dialogue

to manually find and select the file on your desktop.

14. After the file has been saved to your iOS device press shift+Tab to
insure the file has been placed in the list of files associated with the
app.

15. This is a very important step, tab to the sync button and press the
spacebar to complete the sync. ITunes will normally play a sound when the
process has completed.

16. The file(s) should now be on your iDevice.

17. Now that you are finished, you can press Alt+F4 to close iTunes.

Yes, I do agree that this tutorial is wordy, but I wanted to be thrurough.
Smile.

Oh yeah, don't forget that you can also look for iDevice related files in
the following folder(s):
C:\Users\[your name]\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\

Please let me know if you have any problems at all.

Joseph the free tech guy!

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From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net

To: E-Mail Group, viPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC


There was a comment in an e-mail delivered to this list a day or so ago
suggesting that OOTunes recording files could be brought onto a PC by 
using
the BackUp feature in iTunes.  What I presume this means that after making 
a
recording via OOTunes, doing a backup of the iPhone to the PC will bring 
the
file(s) along into the back-up folders.  Where the dang is that folder on 
a

Windows PC?

Holland's Boy, Bill
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Re: EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Hello all,
Talking about Ebay app, is there advanced search function?
Regards
Maria
Sent from iphone

Dňa 29.6.2014, o 19:49, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net napísal:

 I think it is the way it is shown now. Mine is the same
 
 -Original Message- From: Lynda Ingraham
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: EBay App
 
 I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay app, but
 it is much slower to read about the items in a search.
 
 Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would be shown
 on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time left.
 Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the rest of
 the information on separate lines.
 
 Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a color
 choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select.
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
 Lynda
 
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Re: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Gallik
Well, Joseph's tutorial is still quite useful even though I'll need 
another tack to get the files I desire out of the OOTunes app.


Thanks Grant!

Holland's Boy, Bill
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From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC


Yes, I need to chime in here with a sincere Thank You since Joseph did
answer my initial question with such aplomb!

Holland's Boy, Bill
- Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC


Hi Joseph;

Thank you for such a intuitive tutorial.
I'm sure the rest of the group would AGGREE that it is outstanding.

Anthony


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

On Jun 28, 2014, at 2:49 AM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Bill,

I'm not exactly sure of the type of information you are requesting, but if
you want access to a file created by an app on your iOS device, or if you
want to save iOS files to your desktop, try this...

1. Attach iDevice to computer.

2. Launch iTunes if it is not automatically opened.

3. Using your tab key, work your way over to the sources tree view then
navigate to and highlight your iOS device by using down arrow keys.

4. Once your iOS device has been highlighted, tab to the Apps radio 
button

tab. Press the spacebar to check it. Wait about 30 seconds for iTunes to
gather related information.

5. Press Shift+F6 about 7 times or until you reach the Apps tree view.
This is a list containing all the apps which you can use to move files to
and from your desktop and iOS device.

6. You can now select an app for which you want to either add files from
your computer, or save files from your iOS device to your computer. You
select an app by using your up or down arrow keys. Keep in mind that this
step merely selects the app of interest.

7. Once you have selected your app of interest, simply tab once to access
the list of files associated with the app. For example, if you selected 
the

Numbers app in the previous step, this step will show you all of the files
associated with Numbers. You need only press down arrow to select a file.

8. After having selected a file, to move the file to your desktop press 
the

tab key until you find the following item then press enter:
Save to...

9. Type in a path such as c:\iOSTransfers\ and press enter.

10. The file will be saved to your desktop's hard drive in the folder you
selected.

11. If you want to reverse the process and take a file from your desktop 
and
move it into your iOS device, simply follow the previous steps 1 through 
6.


12. Now tab to Add... and press Enter.

13. You can use this dialogue to type in an exact path such as
c:\Documents\Phone numbers.txt and press enter, or you can use this 
dialogue

to manually find and select the file on your desktop.

14. After the file has been saved to your iOS device press shift+Tab to
insure the file has been placed in the list of files associated with the
app.

15. This is a very important step, tab to the sync button and press the
spacebar to complete the sync. ITunes will normally play a sound when the
process has completed.

16. The file(s) should now be on your iDevice.

17. Now that you are finished, you can press Alt+F4 to close iTunes.

Yes, I do agree that this tutorial is wordy, but I wanted to be thrurough.
Smile.

Oh yeah, don't forget that you can also look for iDevice related files in
the following folder(s):
C:\Users\[your name]\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\

Please let me know if you have any problems at all.

Joseph the free tech guy!

- Original Message - 
From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net

To: E-Mail Group, viPhone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: Getting OOTunes Recordings to a PC


There was a comment in an e-mail delivered to this list a day or so ago
suggesting that OOTunes recording files could be brought onto a PC by 
using
the BackUp feature in iTunes.  What I presume this means that after making 
a
recording via OOTunes, doing a backup of the iPhone to the PC will bring 
the
file(s) along into the back-up folders.  Where the dang is that folder on 
a

Windows PC?

Holland's Boy, Bill
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RE: Interesting observation with iPhone is this normal?

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Christopher,

I am curious about this dial assist feature since I never encountered it.
I always put the country code in for my contacts, e.g. +1 for Canada and US,
+49 for Germany etc. By entering numbers in the international dialing format
they always seem to dialed correctly and it doesn't seem to be a problem,
e.g. even if I dial a number local to where I am in which case I don't
really need the +1, having it there doesn't matter.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Interesting observation with iPhone is this normal?

Hi all
I have an interesting observation with my iPhone 4s and asking is the 
below normal.
I added a contact who has a U.S. cellular number. When I attempted to 
send them a message it wanted to send a text not an iMessage. So backed 
out, double check the contact and turns out the iPhone inserted plus 44 
in front of the number. Yes I am in the UK. I then recalled that plus 1 
is for the U.S. So I put this in front of the number and now all is 
well. I might know of a feature called dial assist is the culprit here. 
Am I right here and if so should I turn this off to remove this perhaps 
helpless assumption that all numbers I add are UK based when truly 
they're not? Any comments greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-- 
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

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Re: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread Gmail
I remember someone writing about this earlier, and they said that they copied 
the Sendspace link into the clipboard after tapping on the movie title in the 
Blind Mice Movie Vault. There's actually a download link that you need to copy 
to the clipboard after the Sendspace page opens. I hope this makes sense.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:26 AM, 'Candy' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault with 
 voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go through all of 
 the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be found.  It doesn't 
 appearin the folders where all of the books appearwhen I download them from 
 bookshare.  I have been able to download the movies with the IOs downloaded, 
 but, thought I would have more control with voice dream reader.  The IOs 
 downloaded does not give me too much control when playing the movie back.  I 
 am open for any suggestions.  I know that I can download the movies to my 
 computer and then transfer them to my phone, but, I need to have the option 
 of getting them on my phone with the apps when I am not at home with my 
 computer.  Any help is appreciated.
 I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the problem I 
 have with this app is the control in the player when listening to a movie.  
 For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up or down to change 
 the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I swipe up or down, and 
 nothing.
 
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Twitter question.

2014-06-29 Thread Mária Orovčíková
Hello list,
please does anyone know how to access and manage lists using regular Twitter 
for IOS?
Thanks for help in advance.
Regards
Maria

Sent from iphone

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Re: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread Richard Turner
After you find the movie or episode of a tv show you want to download:
Double tap on the first download link,
On the next page, look for the link that looks like this:
Click here to start download from sendspace, download 01 - 10  the good wife - 
Lifeguard.mp3 Link download 01 - 10  the good wife - Lifeguard.mp3
Then, double-tap and hold on that link until you get the sounds that indicate a 
pop-up and flicck right until you get to copy and double tap.
Then go to  Voice Dream and double tap on add, then double tap on web browser, 
and paste that link into the text field and hit the Go button in the lower 
right-hand corner.

Then, plan on waiting a while, perhaps a long while.
HTH,
Richard


Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo

 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I remember someone writing about this earlier, and they said that they copied 
 the Sendspace link into the clipboard after tapping on the movie title in the 
 Blind Mice Movie Vault. There's actually a download link that you need to 
 copy to the clipboard after the Sendspace page opens. I hope this makes sense.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:26 AM, 'Candy' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault with 
 voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go through all 
 of the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be found.  It doesn't 
 appearin the folders where all of the books appearwhen I download them from 
 bookshare.  I have been able to download the movies with the IOs downloaded, 
 but, thought I would have more control with voice dream reader.  The IOs 
 downloaded does not give me too much control when playing the movie back.  I 
 am open for any suggestions.  I know that I can download the movies to my 
 computer and then transfer them to my phone, but, I need to have the option 
 of getting them on my phone with the apps when I am not at home with my 
 computer.  Any help is appreciated.
 I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the problem I 
 have with this app is the control in the player when listening to a movie.  
 For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up or down to change 
 the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I swipe up or down, and 
 nothing.
 
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Re: New Behavior With Music

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
Do you have music turned on in the show all section of iTunes and App 
Stores under Settings? This allows you to see not only what you have 
purchased but what is in the cloud for you to download.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 18:40, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Hi,

I have noticed that I am being asked to put in my password for Itunes to
listen to music that I have all ready purchased. Is anyone else experiencing
this change?

Thank you in advance,

Lynda



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Re: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread Feliciano G
Another thing that you can do is to create a movies folder on a dropbox 
account. Then you can transfer the movies from your Dropbox to your Voice Dream 
reader application.

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I remember someone writing about this earlier, and they said that they copied 
 the Sendspace link into the clipboard after tapping on the movie title in the 
 Blind Mice Movie Vault. There's actually a download link that you need to 
 copy to the clipboard after the Sendspace page opens. I hope this makes sense.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:26 AM, 'Candy' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault with 
 voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go through all 
 of the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be found.  It doesn't 
 appearin the folders where all of the books appearwhen I download them from 
 bookshare.  I have been able to download the movies with the IOs downloaded, 
 but, thought I would have more control with voice dream reader.  The IOs 
 downloaded does not give me too much control when playing the movie back.  I 
 am open for any suggestions.  I know that I can download the movies to my 
 computer and then transfer them to my phone, but, I need to have the option 
 of getting them on my phone with the apps when I am not at home with my 
 computer.  Any help is appreciated.
 I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the problem I 
 have with this app is the control in the player when listening to a movie.  
 For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up or down to change 
 the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I swipe up or down, and 
 nothing.
 
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Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Eric Brinkman
As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery
life on my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely
unacceptable.  I have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life
and followed their suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30%
charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane
mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I will have 20%
or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a
problem until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am
on Verizon and have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I
will buy a juice pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But
there are so many bugs in the latest IOS that I wonder whether I might
be better off on Android.  The dictation feature seems to have gotten
less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word comma when I want a
comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with Facebook and
VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  Also, I
really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have
much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues
are the result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are
ready, something that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll
never switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this
list know what the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and
accessibility?  The last time I heard, good screen-reading software
was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have heard that now
Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as
well?

Thanks in advance.

Eric

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Re: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

2014-06-29 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Hi,
Have you actually been able to see the flyer with the shoppers app?
when I've tried that, the flyer is just a stupid jpg file or something.
Same with the Canadian tire app, and Pet Smart as well..
If anyone does know of an accessable flyer app for Canadian stores, do share!
Thanks!
Caitlyn

On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Reg Sullivan regs2...@rogers.com wrote:

 Jen, my experience has been better with individual store chains and their 
 flyers.
 Many of them have accessible apps now, E.G. Metro Grocery, Sobeys's, shoppers 
 Drug mart, etc.!
  
 Cheers...Reg
  
  
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Jen Colley
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada
  
 Hi, 
 I am wondering if there is an accessible flier app that works in Canada.  I 
 love to look at fliers to see what is on sale where but of course when you 
 have no vision this is not the easiest way. 
 Just wondering if anyone knows of an accessible app. 
 Thanks. 
 Jen 
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Re: voice dream reader and blind mice movies

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
While it took me a bit of time to also figure out what Richard conveyed 
below, for Candy or anyone else looking to do something similar, I suggest 
making life much easier by simply downloading the content of interest from 
the BlindMice website then using iTunes to transfer to your iPhone some 10 
or 20 different files all at once. Using Filer and Downloader? and alike can 
get very slow and very tedious even after creating bookmarks and such in an 
attempt to streamline the process. There is also a checkbox to be aware of 
when downloading from SendSpace; I don't know how it will effect iOS 
devices, but I would make sure to read the entire page to insure it is 
unchecked, or you will end up with possibly unwanted junk on your iOS device 
as would be the case on a desktop computer.

If anything, I found the entire process quite easy using UbiDisk--especially 
after creating a bookmark to the BlindMice website; it's just playing the 
file using UbiDisk I don't like. It is possible to advance through an audio 
file by double tapping and holding, then slowly moving one's index finger in 
a very straight upward direction--You will hear 2%, 5%, 11% X%, Y% etc. To 
play and pause is of course a 2 finger double-tap. The whole process was 
seemingly 100% accessible.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: voice dream reader and blind mice movies


After you find the movie or episode of a tv show you want to download:
Double tap on the first download link,
On the next page, look for the link that looks like this:
Click here to start download from sendspace, download 01 - 10  the good 
wife - Lifeguard.mp3 Link download 01 - 10  the good wife - Lifeguard.mp3
Then, double-tap and hold on that link until you get the sounds that 
indicate a pop-up and flicck right until you get to copy and double tap.
Then go to  Voice Dream and double tap on add, then double tap on web 
browser, and paste that link into the text field and hit the Go button in 
the lower right-hand corner.

Then, plan on waiting a while, perhaps a long while.
HTH,
Richard


Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education. - Victor Hugo



Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 I remember someone writing about this earlier, and they said that they 
 copied the Sendspace link into the clipboard after tapping on the movie 
 title in the Blind Mice Movie Vault. There's actually a download link that 
 you need to copy to the clipboard after the Sendspace page opens. I hope 
 this makes sense.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:26 AM, 'Candy' via VIPhone 
 viphone@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 I am still trying to download a dvs movie from blind mice movie vault 
 with voice dream reader.  I just can't seem to get it to work. I go 
 through all of the steps, but, at the end, there is no movie to be found. 
 It doesn't appearin the folders where all of the books appearwhen I 
 download them from bookshare.  I have been able to download the movies 
 with the IOs downloaded, but, thought I would have more control with 
 voice dream reader.  The IOs downloaded does not give me too much control 
 when playing the movie back.  I am open for any suggestions.  I know that 
 I can download the movies to my computer and then transfer them to my 
 phone, but, I need to have the option of getting them on my phone with 
 the apps when I am not at home with my computer.  Any help is 
 appreciated.
 I also had a fair amount of success with the UbiDisk app, but the problem 
 I have with this app is the control in the player when listening to a 
 movie.  For instance, voice over will say, one per cent, swipe up or down 
 to change the value.  This is while the movie is playing, I swipe up or 
 down, and nothing.

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Re: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

2014-06-29 Thread Caitlyn Furness
Jen,
til we find something app wise, you can go to web sites of the lablas stores, 
like Zehyr's and no frills, those are accessable.  WalMart is useable as well, 
but only on the web, for me at least.
hth, for now at least.
Cait

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 Hi, 
 I am wondering if there is an accessible flier app that works in Canada.  I 
 love to look at fliers to see what is on sale where but of course when you 
 have no vision this is not the easiest way. 
 Just wondering if anyone knows of an accessible app. 
 Thanks. 
 Jen 
 
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Re: Keyboard and voice over

2014-06-29 Thread Alan Paganelli
In settings keyboard I believe there you can choose the settings you want 
for the external keyboard and the on screen keyboard.  Mine are both set to 
characters and words.


HTH

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 1:45 PM
Subject: Keyboard and voice over




Sent from my iPhone I am using my iPhone for S. When using the virtual 
keyboard and voiceover, is there a way to have the letters or words repeat 
after you have typed an individual letter or a complete word? Thank you


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Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts whereever I am on my iPhone

2014-06-29 Thread Alan Paganelli

What's wrong with the native weather app on the iPhone?

Regards,

Alan

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hasn't met me yet.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts 
whereever I am on my iPhone



Hi Paul and others,

Regarding great weather apps, try this one below as it is very accessible.
It will show you the current weather at your location, but what I feel is
it's greatest strength is that one can add new cities then use a three
finger swipe to the right or left to move back and forth between cities of
interest. I like entering only the cities for which I want to read weather
since I will not have to skip through unwanted information for other cities.
The app also continuously updates itself so you will always have current
weather on the first line of the screen. Like most weather apps, exact
measurement of current weather will vary due to many variables. This app is
only $1, so well worth the cost even if you don't end up liking it.

Fahrenheit - Weather and Temperature on your Home Screen on the App Store on
iTunes
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fahrenheit-weather-temperature/id426939660?mt=8ign-mpt=uo%3D8

Joseph the free tech guy!

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone


Hi, John.  I was looking in the app store for WX Alert and found one for
MInnasota, one which says KS, OK and SD, but nothing that seems to cover the
whole country.  Any thoughts.  I live in Ohio, but sometimes go other
places, so a nationwide alert app would be good.  I have storm shield which
works for some, but not all, cities I go to.  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone

WX Alert is a good app for this purpose assuming you are in the U.S.

On 6/26/14, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:

Hi okay I have the iPhone 5 and what I would like is to have an app
that is good for receiving severe weather alerts wherever I am with my

iPhone.

And it needs to work well with voice over as well.
I have the app called weather radio and the one called NOAH weather radio.
But I would really just like one app that I can get the forecast and
get the serve weather alerts wherever I happen to be.
I have heard of an app called weather center does anyone know anything
about this app?
 From what I Google it said that it was in partnership with middle n
and there weather radios.
So I know that post really doesn't sound like much but I hope that I
will get some suggestions on this.


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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of course 
the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting in 
the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what they 
said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and while 
there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend that you 
find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android phone on a 
2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate with 
the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern British 
Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town with a good 
signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in mind that if you 
got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is now one and a half 
years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, but 
I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put 
the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I 
will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at 
work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have 
much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are the 
result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, something 
that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never switch 
to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what the 
situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I heard, 
good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have 
heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than 
Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?

Thanks in advance.

Eric

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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However, Apple 
ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I didn't 
have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my battery 
somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said, the 
battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not too 
surprised.

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe rent 
a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy is. 
Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how the same 
app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very probably 
have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android devices can 
offer longer battery lives simply because they are already bigger than the 
iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery drain is all 
in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very 
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need to 
know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is perfect, and 
of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you aren't trading 
those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
 also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of 
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting 
 in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what 
 they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and 
 while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend 
 that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android 
 phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
 will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate 
 with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern 
 British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town 
 with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in 
 mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is 
 now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
 iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
 MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, 
 but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't 
 put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the 
 office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my 
 phone at work.
 There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
 recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
 issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
 upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
 IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
 feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
 comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
 Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
 Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't 
 have much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are 
 the result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, 
 something that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
 6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never 
 switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what 
 the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I 
 heard, good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about 
 GPS.  I have heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways 
 smarter than Siri.
 Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Eric
 
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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I wonder the same regarding the battery. I might only have a 4s but can 
get away with two or three days with average usage.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 22:08, Alex Hall wrote:

I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However, Apple 
ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I didn't 
have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my battery 
somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said, the 
battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not too 
surprised.

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe rent 
a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy is. 
Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how the same 
app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very probably 
have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android devices can 
offer longer battery lives simply because they are already bigger than the 
iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery drain is all 
in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very 
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need to 
know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is perfect, and 
of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you aren't trading 
those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of course 
the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting in 
the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what they 
said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and while 
there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend that you 
find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android phone on a 
2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate with 
the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern British 
Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town with a good 
signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in mind that if you 
got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is now one and a half 
years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, but 
I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put 
the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I 
will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at 
work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have 
much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are the 
result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, something 
that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never switch 
to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what the 
situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I heard, 
good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have 
heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than 
Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Hallsworth
I'm interested with any bugs you find on iOS 7. I have nothing show 
stopping to report here. All software including Android will have bugs; 
what's the point releasing updates otherwise.


Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 29/06/2014 21:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of course 
the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting in 
the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what they 
said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and while 
there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend that you 
find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android phone on a 
2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate with 
the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern British 
Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town with a good 
signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in mind that if you 
got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is now one and a half 
years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, but 
I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put 
the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I 
will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at 
work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have 
much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are the 
result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, something 
that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never switch 
to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what the 
situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I heard, 
good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have 
heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than 
Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?

Thanks in advance.

Eric

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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Eric Brinkman
From Ars Technica's review which I have linked to below, it's pretty
clear that the iPhone 5's battery life with IOS 7 is horrible and this
is most definitely Apple's fault.  This is very disappointing and
makes it seem like the powers that be want you to buy the 5S to get
good performance with IOS 7.  With that said, I really do not want to
switch, if for no other reason than that I don't want to learn a whole
new screen-reader, along with a new OS and apps.  I know that Android
is quite fragmented meaning you often can't use a new version of the
OS when it is released.  You're also subject to malware and probably
can't set up a phone or tablet without sighted assistance, so I'm
quite skeptical.  I highly doubt I will switch but Apple should do
better in the quality control department.  People said the same when
the Apple Maps came out and when iTunes 11 was released but I didn't
have issues with those.  But now I'm beginning to think that the crowd
that said Apple was irrelevant without Jobs may be correct.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/ios-7-thoroughly-reviewed/6/

On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
 battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
 the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
 not too surprised.

 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
 bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
 battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
 in battery?

 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Eric,

 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
 fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI
 putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
 According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much
 more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I
 would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you
 commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
 definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
 communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
 northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he
 is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have
 to keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that
 the battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
 degrades with time.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on
 my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I
 have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their
 suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to
 NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a
 charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i
 don't even use my phone at work.
 There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem
 until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon
 and have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice
 pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs
 in the latest IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.
 The dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, 

RE: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts wherever I am on my iPhone

2014-06-29 Thread Neal Ewers
The native app is a nice one, but it is not nearly as good as the weather
radio app in giving weather alerts.

Neal


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone

What's wrong with the native weather app on the iPhone?

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone


Hi Paul and others,

Regarding great weather apps, try this one below as it is very accessible.
It will show you the current weather at your location, but what I feel is
it's greatest strength is that one can add new cities then use a three
finger swipe to the right or left to move back and forth between cities of
interest. I like entering only the cities for which I want to read weather
since I will not have to skip through unwanted information for other cities.
The app also continuously updates itself so you will always have current
weather on the first line of the screen. Like most weather apps, exact
measurement of current weather will vary due to many variables. This app is
only $1, so well worth the cost even if you don't end up liking it.

Fahrenheit - Weather and Temperature on your Home Screen on the App Store on
iTunes
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fahrenheit-weather-temperature/id426939660?m
t=8ign-mpt=uo%3D8

Joseph the free tech guy!

- Original Message -
From: Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone


Hi, John.  I was looking in the app store for WX Alert and found one for
MInnasota, one which says KS, OK and SD, but nothing that seems to cover the
whole country.  Any thoughts.  I live in Ohio, but sometimes go other
places, so a nationwide alert app would be good.  I have storm shield which
works for some, but not all, cities I go to.  Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: looking for a good weather app for receiving weather alerts
whereever I am on my iPhone

WX Alert is a good app for this purpose assuming you are in the U.S.

On 6/26/14, Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 Hi okay I have the iPhone 5 and what I would like is to have an app
 that is good for receiving severe weather alerts wherever I am with my
iPhone.
 And it needs to work well with voice over as well.
 I have the app called weather radio and the one called NOAH weather radio.
 But I would really just like one app that I can get the forecast and
 get the serve weather alerts wherever I happen to be.
 I have heard of an app called weather center does anyone know anything
 about this app?
  From what I Google it said that it was in partnership with middle n
 and there weather radios.
 So I know that post really doesn't sound like much but I hope that I
 will get some suggestions on this.


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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Feliciano G
IOS is better than an android IMO. Android has more problems to deal with.


  Regards, Feliciano

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Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery
 life on my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely
 unacceptable.  I have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life
 and followed their suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30%
 charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane
 mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I will have 20%
 or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at work.
 There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a
 problem until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am
 on Verizon and have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I
 will buy a juice pack when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But
 there are so many bugs in the latest IOS that I wonder whether I might
 be better off on Android.  The dictation feature seems to have gotten
 less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word comma when I want a
 comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with Facebook and
 VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  Also, I
 really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have
 much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues
 are the result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are
 ready, something that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
 6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll
 never switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this
 list know what the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and
 accessibility?  The last time I heard, good screen-reading software
 was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have heard that now
 Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than Siri.
 Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as
 well?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Eric
 
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RE: Keyboard and voice over

2014-06-29 Thread Jennie Facer
Actually, that is in Accessibility, Voiceover, typing feedback.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

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In settings keyboard I believe there you can choose the settings you want
for the external keyboard and the on screen keyboard.  Mine are both set to
characters and words.

HTH

Regards,

Alan

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Please click on:

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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Sent from my iPhone I am using my iPhone for S. When using the virtual 
keyboard and voiceover, is there a way to have the letters or words repeat 
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Re: EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread Ann
Hello, I've been using the eBay app pretty regularly for over six months. I 
have found, that you get more choices/brand/color/sizes if you double tap on 
the categories button, then select the categories you want. Hope that helps

Sent from my iPhone

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 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 Talking about Ebay app, is there advanced search function?
 Regards
 Maria
 Sent from iphone
 
 Dňa 29.6.2014, o 19:49, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net napísal:
 
 I think it is the way it is shown now. Mine is the same
 
 -Original Message- From: Lynda Ingraham
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: EBay App
 
 I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay app, but
 it is much slower to read about the items in a search.
 
 Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would be shown
 on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time left.
 Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the rest of
 the information on separate lines.
 
 Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a color
 choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select.
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
 Lynda
 
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Re: Help redeeming eBay bucks

2014-06-29 Thread Ann
Thank you very much for the information. In regards to accruing eBay bucks, I 
noticed the other day when I double tap on for example if the eBay box amount 
is $.25 for that purchase, when I double tap on it I noticed highlights it. Is 
that how I actually apply those eBay bucks to my account?

Sent from my iPhone

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 Hi Ann, 
 
 EBay bucks can be redeemed within about five days after each quarter ends. I
 think the emails should be out between July 3rd and 7th. It does fluctuate
 sometimes. You can follow the link in the email to redeem your Ebay bucks. I
 have also noticed that If I am making a purchase and have Ebay bucks
 available, they are automatically deducted from the amount due. 
 
 HTH 
 
 Lynda 
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 redeeming and using eBay books using the iPhone app for eBay thank you in
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Redeeming An ITunes card.

2014-06-29 Thread Paul Hunt
 Hello. I have an ITunes card and would like to redeem it with my IPhone 5s. I 
 also have a Stand Scan pro. Is this possible? What app do I use? Thanks so 
 much.

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RE: Redeeming An ITunes card.

2014-06-29 Thread Grant Hardy
Hello Paul, here's one way to redeem the card: simply open the iTunes Store
app on your iPhone and near the bottom of most tabs like music, movies, TV
shows, etc. should be a redeem option. You can enter the code manually, but
there is also a use camera button which is highly convenient for those of
us who can't see the code! I'm terrible at taking pictures, but I just
redeemed a few gift cards the other day and simply waving the phone's camera
around above the gift card was enough. Keep in mind that there's a small
piece of tape overtop of the code which you will have to remove before the
phone will be able to read the code.

Grant

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 Hello. I have an ITunes card and would like to redeem it with my IPhone
5s. I also have a Stand Scan pro. Is this possible? What app do I use?
Thanks so much.

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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Eric, smartphone battery life in general needs improvement, there's no doubt 
about that. However, GPS as well as using your phone in low signal areas are 
very aggressive on any phone battery. If you go to www.apple.com and read the 
material Apple has posted regarding iOS 8 and watch the keynote, it's pretty 
clear iPhones are far from becoming irrelevant. My suggestion would be to 
purchase a charger for any place or situation where you are indoors for a long 
period of time, such as your office. This will take care of large battery 
drainage due to the low coverage area. The other solution is simply to put your 
iPhone into airplane mode in such an area, though I realize that's hardly 
practical--but if you did this, you could always forward your calls to a 
landline in your office, and use Wi-Fi to receive most other notifications. 
Also, which GPS apps are you using? Seeing Eye GPS is quite a bit more 
aggressive on your phone's battery than BlindSquare, in my opinion. Also, I'd 
suggest opening the settings app and going to general, then Background App 
Refresh. This is a list of apps that have permission to update in the 
background (even when you aren't using them). You should turn off any that you 
don't need updated.

Grant

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Eric Brinkman
Sent: June 29, 2014 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

From Ars Technica's review which I have linked to below, it's pretty clear 
that the iPhone 5's battery life with IOS 7 is horrible and this is most 
definitely Apple's fault.  This is very disappointing and makes it seem like 
the powers that be want you to buy the 5S to get good performance with IOS 7.  
With that said, I really do not want to switch, if for no other reason than 
that I don't want to learn a whole new screen-reader, along with a new OS and 
apps.  I know that Android is quite fragmented meaning you often can't use a 
new version of the OS when it is released.  You're also subject to malware and 
probably can't set up a phone or tablet without sighted assistance, so I'm 
quite skeptical.  I highly doubt I will switch but Apple should do better in 
the quality control department.  People said the same when the Apple Maps came 
out and when iTunes 11 was released but I didn't have issues with those.  But 
now I'm beginning to think that the crowd that said Apple was irrelevant 
without Jobs may be correct.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/ios-7-thoroughly-reviewed/6/

On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. 
 However, Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, 
 even though I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a 
 hardware fault in my battery somewhere which is causing problems with 
 fast draining. As was said, the battery is now one and a half years 
 old and I use it constantly, so I'm not too surprised.

 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. 
 Maybe rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's 
 return policy is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be 
 interested to see how the same app performs on Android. also, remember 
 that the iPhone6 will very probably have a larger screen, which means 
 a larger battery. Many Android devices can offer longer battery lives 
 simply because they are already bigger than the iPhone and so can 
 sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, 
 then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?

 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is 
 very different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and 
 shortcomings you need to know about before you start relying on it 
 full time. No company is perfect, and of course you know what Apple's 
 problems are. Just be sure you aren't trading those issues for an even bigger 
 set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Eric,

 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are 
 and of course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is 
 not Apple's fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI 
 putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
 According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be 
 much more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this 
 list, I would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android 
 before you commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage 
 definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect 
 and communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a 

RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Alex,

 

I'm curious; have you ever gone to http://selfsolve.apple.com and ran
diagnostics on your own? Since Apple told you that you have a battery issue,
I'm curious what the website would display to you (as an end user).

 

Grant

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 

I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
not too surprised.

 

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
in battery?

 

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:





Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting
in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to
what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more
responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would
highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a
high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is
in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to
keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the
battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on
my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have
read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their
suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to
NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a
charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i
don't even use my phone at work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem
until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and
have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack
when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the
latest IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The
dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often
typing the word comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are
so many bugs with Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs
detailing them.  Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice
pack, as I didn't have much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS
7.  These issues are the result of Apple rushing products out the door
before they are ready, something that's been crippling the company ever
since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never
switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know
what the situation is on 

Re: Redeeming An ITunes card.

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
Just to add to this, I simply lay the lens of the camera right on top of the 
code (the code is the smooth part of the card, under the peel-off piece of 
plastic; it is a long, narrow rectangle). Once positioned, and once you are 
sure you have a good light on in the room, just lift the phone straight up. 
Once the code is far enough away to fit, the phone will automatically capture 
it, no need to manually take a picture or anything. While I don't know if it 
matters or not, I always have the alignment such that the bulk of the card is 
facing down. That is, the code is parallel with the lock button, and the card 
extends down toward the charging port while the code is up near the camera. I 
hope that makes sense.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hello Paul, here's one way to redeem the card: simply open the iTunes Store
 app on your iPhone and near the bottom of most tabs like music, movies, TV
 shows, etc. should be a redeem option. You can enter the code manually, but
 there is also a use camera button which is highly convenient for those of
 us who can't see the code! I'm terrible at taking pictures, but I just
 redeemed a few gift cards the other day and simply waving the phone's camera
 around above the gift card was enough. Keep in mind that there's a small
 piece of tape overtop of the code which you will have to remove before the
 phone will be able to read the code.
 
 Grant
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Paul Hunt
 Sent: June 29, 2014 3:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Redeeming An ITunes card.
 
 Hello. I have an ITunes card and would like to redeem it with my IPhone
 5s. I also have a Stand Scan pro. Is this possible? What app do I use?
 Thanks so much.
 
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My Battery (was Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid)

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
That sounds like a helpful website, but when I went to it, it just told me my 
warranty status (expired). There was nothing about any diagnostics or anything. 
Did I miss something? Thanks.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hi Alex,
  
 I'm curious; have you ever gone to http://selfsolve.apple.com and ran 
 diagnostics on your own? Since Apple told you that you have a battery issue, 
 I'm curious what the website would display to you (as an end user).
  
 Grant
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
  
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However, 
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I 
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my battery 
 somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said, the 
 battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not 
 too surprised.
  
 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe 
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy 
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how 
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very 
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android 
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already bigger 
 than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery 
 drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?
  
 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very 
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need 
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is 
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you 
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
 also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of 
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting 
 in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what 
 they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and 
 while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend 
 that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android 
 phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
 will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate 
 with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern 
 British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town 
 with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in 
 mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is 
 now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
 iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
 MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, 
 but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't 
 put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the 
 office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my 
 phone at work.
 There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
 recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
 issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
 upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
 IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
 feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
 comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
 Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
 Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't 
 have much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are 
 the result of Apple 

RE: EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread Cristóbal
It is true that the eBay app is a bit more tedious to get through now. I had 
contacted them last year after one of their updates made it really hard to use 
with VO. I was fortunate to reach a rep who actually took interest in my 
feedback having to do with Voiceover accessibility and he said that he would 
pass my concerns to the app team for whatever that was worth. He also told me 
that I could write to the following email address to provide more feedback.: 
reso...@ebay.com
When I sent an email to this address again expressing my concerns with the less 
accessible app, I did indeed receive a response acknowledging my email. Whether 
that had any influence in future improvements to the app which I did notice, I 
have no clue. 

I again contacted eBay at the beginning of this month, but my experience wasn't 
as fruitful. I ended up speaking to someone who thought I was calling about a 
payment issue no matter how many times I tried explaining my reason for 
calling. I went ahead and emailed to the same address provided above, but this 
time, the response I received had nothing to do with my inquiry and was instead 
provided a detailed accounting of my eBay account and the reassurance that my 
account was indeed in good standing.

Anyway, there's not much information within the eBay app itself having to do 
with accessibility, but I guess the more people who reach out to eBay via 
telephone or at the email address above, there may be more of an opportunity to 
reach someone or a department that will take notice and hopefully make the app 
easier to use with VO again. Leaving app feedback in the app store too I guess 
can be an option. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: EBay App

Hello, I've been using the eBay app pretty regularly for over six months. I 
have found, that you get more choices/brand/color/sizes if you double tap on 
the categories button, then select the categories you want. Hope that helps

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 Talking about Ebay app, is there advanced search function?
 Regards
 Maria
 Sent from iphone
 
 Dňa 29.6.2014, o 19:49, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net napísal:
 
 I think it is the way it is shown now. Mine is the same
 
 -Original Message- From: Lynda Ingraham
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: EBay App
 
 I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay app, but
 it is much slower to read about the items in a search.
 
 Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would be shown
 on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time left.
 Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the rest of
 the information on separate lines.
 
 Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a color
 choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select.
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
 Lynda
 
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using kindle app for the first time, need some directions

2014-06-29 Thread Paul Ferrara
Hello, the subject says it all; what VO gestures do you use to navigate books, 
etc?
Are there any rotar settings you need to change also?

Thank you.

Paul

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Re: Looking for an accessible flier app that will work in Canada

2014-06-29 Thread Earle
I use an app called Flip.  It is very accessible and has a wide range of 
flyers.  It is a free app as well.  My flyer is also pretty good but flip 
offers more flyers.  They are both free though.  Flip has a few little 
inconstancies but for the most part it is accessible.

Earle
On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Jen Colley jen.col...@shaw.ca wrote:

 Hi, 
 I am wondering if there is an accessible flier app that works in Canada.  I 
 love to look at fliers to see what is on sale where but of course when you 
 have no vision this is not the easiest way. 
 Just wondering if anyone knows of an accessible app. 
 Thanks. 
 Jen 
 
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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Gmail
Also, with iOS 7, a dictation bug was introduced, wherein the Mike does not 
shut off unless you activate Siri and then press the home button to stop Siri 
from listening. This could very well be affecting your battery life. Also, do 
you remove apps that use GPS from the App Switcher after you've gotten to where 
you need to go? Leaving GPS running in the background will seriously  decrease 
your battery life. I'm just wondering, as you mentioned GPS in your first post.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From Ars Technica's review which I have linked to below, it's pretty
 clear that the iPhone 5's battery life with IOS 7 is horrible and this
 is most definitely Apple's fault.  This is very disappointing and
 makes it seem like the powers that be want you to buy the 5S to get
 good performance with IOS 7.  With that said, I really do not want to
 switch, if for no other reason than that I don't want to learn a whole
 new screen-reader, along with a new OS and apps.  I know that Android
 is quite fragmented meaning you often can't use a new version of the
 OS when it is released.  You're also subject to malware and probably
 can't set up a phone or tablet without sighted assistance, so I'm
 quite skeptical.  I highly doubt I will switch but Apple should do
 better in the quality control department.  People said the same when
 the Apple Maps came out and when iTunes 11 was released but I didn't
 have issues with those.  But now I'm beginning to think that the crowd
 that said Apple was irrelevant without Jobs may be correct.
 
 http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/ios-7-thoroughly-reviewed/6/
 
 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
 battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
 the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
 not too surprised.
 
 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
 bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
 battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
 in battery?
 
 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
 fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI
 putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
 According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much
 more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I
 would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you
 commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
 definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
 communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
 northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he
 is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have
 to keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that
 the battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
 degrades with time.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on
 my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I
 have read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their
 suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to
 NYC.  If I don't put the phone 

RE: Help redeeming eBay bucks

2014-06-29 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Hi Ann, 

Once you have signed-up for Ebay Bucks, you don't need to do anything else.
I think the highlighting simply shows you the amount you will earn for that
particular purchase. It is all done automatically. 

Lynda 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ann
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Help redeeming eBay bucks

Thank you very much for the information. In regards to accruing eBay bucks,
I noticed the other day when I double tap on for example if the eBay box
amount is $.25 for that purchase, when I double tap on it I noticed
highlights it. Is that how I actually apply those eBay bucks to my account?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Hi Ann,
 
 EBay bucks can be redeemed within about five days after each quarter 
 ends. I think the emails should be out between July 3rd and 7th. It 
 does fluctuate sometimes. You can follow the link in the email to 
 redeem your Ebay bucks. I have also noticed that If I am making a 
 purchase and have Ebay bucks available, they are automatically deducted
from the amount due.
 
 HTH
 
 Lynda
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Ann
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:33 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Help redeeming eBay bucks
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone hello, I have been getting into using eBay for 
 shopping for items that I need. I was wondering, if anyone could help 
 me regarding redeeming and using eBay books using the iPhone app for 
 eBay thank you in advance for any help you may give me.
 
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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Brent Harding
How does a person tell if the mic was left on? Does it stay going then even 
if the phone locks?
- Original Message - 
From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Also, with iOS 7, a dictation bug was introduced, wherein the Mike does not 
shut off unless you activate Siri and then press the home button to stop 
Siri from listening. This could very well be affecting your battery life. 
Also, do you remove apps that use GPS from the App Switcher after you've 
gotten to where you need to go? Leaving GPS running in the background will 
seriously  decrease your battery life. I'm just wondering, as you mentioned 
GPS in your first post.



Thanks,
Ari

On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com 
wrote:


From Ars Technica's review which I have linked to below, it's pretty
clear that the iPhone 5's battery life with IOS 7 is horrible and this
is most definitely Apple's fault.  This is very disappointing and
makes it seem like the powers that be want you to buy the 5S to get
good performance with IOS 7.  With that said, I really do not want to
switch, if for no other reason than that I don't want to learn a whole
new screen-reader, along with a new OS and apps.  I know that Android
is quite fragmented meaning you often can't use a new version of the
OS when it is released.  You're also subject to malware and probably
can't set up a phone or tablet without sighted assistance, so I'm
quite skeptical.  I highly doubt I will switch but Apple should do
better in the quality control department.  People said the same when
the Apple Maps came out and when iTunes 11 was released but I didn't
have issues with those.  But now I'm beginning to think that the crowd
that said Apple was irrelevant without Jobs may be correct.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/ios-7-thoroughly-reviewed/6/


On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though 
I

didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was 
said,
the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so 
I'm

not too surprised.

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. 
Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return 
policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see 
how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will 
very

probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, 
if
battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge 
jump

in battery?

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you 
need

to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure 
you

aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery 
life.
I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and 
of

course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI
putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be 
much

more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I
would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you
commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect 
and
communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area 
in

northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he
is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also 
have

to keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that
the battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

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As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the 

Re: Redeeming An ITunes card.

2014-06-29 Thread Paul Hunt
Hello Grant. Wow it worked. Thanks.

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hello Paul, here's one way to redeem the card: simply open the iTunes Store
 app on your iPhone and near the bottom of most tabs like music, movies, TV
 shows, etc. should be a redeem option. You can enter the code manually, but
 there is also a use camera button which is highly convenient for those of
 us who can't see the code! I'm terrible at taking pictures, but I just
 redeemed a few gift cards the other day and simply waving the phone's camera
 around above the gift card was enough. Keep in mind that there's a small
 piece of tape overtop of the code which you will have to remove before the
 phone will be able to read the code.
 
 Grant
 
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 Sent: June 29, 2014 3:57 PM
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 Subject: Redeeming An ITunes card.
 
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 5s. I also have a Stand Scan pro. Is this possible? What app do I use?
 Thanks so much.
 
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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
If you use bluetooth headphones, or at least the Aftershokz, the sound quality 
remans very low while the microphone is active. The only other way to tell is 
if Siri's volume is way different from normal volume, since while the mic is 
open, Siri's volume setting is used. I find that doing a two-finger double tap 
to start some media, or playing some directly, fixes the problem (of course, 
don't do the magic tap if you are still editing as that will start dictation 
again).
On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Brent Harding br...@hostany.net wrote:

 How does a person tell if the mic was left on? Does it stay going then even 
 if the phone locks?
 - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 
 Also, with iOS 7, a dictation bug was introduced, wherein the Mike does not 
 shut off unless you activate Siri and then press the home button to stop Siri 
 from listening. This could very well be affecting your battery life. Also, do 
 you remove apps that use GPS from the App Switcher after you've gotten to 
 where you need to go? Leaving GPS running in the background will seriously  
 decrease your battery life. I'm just wondering, as you mentioned GPS in your 
 first post.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 5:27 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From Ars Technica's review which I have linked to below, it's pretty
 clear that the iPhone 5's battery life with IOS 7 is horrible and this
 is most definitely Apple's fault.  This is very disappointing and
 makes it seem like the powers that be want you to buy the 5S to get
 good performance with IOS 7.  With that said, I really do not want to
 switch, if for no other reason than that I don't want to learn a whole
 new screen-reader, along with a new OS and apps.  I know that Android
 is quite fragmented meaning you often can't use a new version of the
 OS when it is released.  You're also subject to malware and probably
 can't set up a phone or tablet without sighted assistance, so I'm
 quite skeptical.  I highly doubt I will switch but Apple should do
 better in the quality control department.  People said the same when
 the Apple Maps came out and when iTunes 11 was released but I didn't
 have issues with those.  But now I'm beginning to think that the crowd
 that said Apple was irrelevant without Jobs may be correct.
 
 http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/09/ios-7-thoroughly-reviewed/6/
 
 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
 battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
 the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
 not too surprised.
 
 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
 bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
 battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
 in battery?
 
 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
 fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI
 putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
 According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much
 more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I
 would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you
 commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
 definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
 communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
 northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; 

RE: Redeeming An ITunes card.

2014-06-29 Thread Jennie Facer
You can redeem it through the App Store. It is under the featured tab. It is
down aways, but you are looking for a redeem button.

Jenn

TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!


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5s. I also have a Stand Scan pro. Is this possible? What app do I use?
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RE: EBay App

2014-06-29 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks for the email address. I've sent them a request regarding VoiceOver 
accessibility. Keith

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Subject: RE: EBay App

It is true that the eBay app is a bit more tedious to get through now. I had 
contacted them last year after one of their updates made it really hard to use 
with VO. I was fortunate to reach a rep who actually took interest in my 
feedback having to do with Voiceover accessibility and he said that he would 
pass my concerns to the app team for whatever that was worth. He also told me 
that I could write to the following email address to provide more feedback.: 
reso...@ebay.com When I sent an email to this address again expressing my 
concerns with the less accessible app, I did indeed receive a response 
acknowledging my email. Whether that had any influence in future improvements 
to the app which I did notice, I have no clue. 

I again contacted eBay at the beginning of this month, but my experience wasn't 
as fruitful. I ended up speaking to someone who thought I was calling about a 
payment issue no matter how many times I tried explaining my reason for 
calling. I went ahead and emailed to the same address provided above, but this 
time, the response I received had nothing to do with my inquiry and was instead 
provided a detailed accounting of my eBay account and the reassurance that my 
account was indeed in good standing.

Anyway, there's not much information within the eBay app itself having to do 
with accessibility, but I guess the more people who reach out to eBay via 
telephone or at the email address above, there may be more of an opportunity to 
reach someone or a department that will take notice and hopefully make the app 
easier to use with VO again. Leaving app feedback in the app store too I guess 
can be an option. 

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Ann
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 3:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: EBay App

Hello, I've been using the eBay app pretty regularly for over six months. I 
have found, that you get more choices/brand/color/sizes if you double tap on 
the categories button, then select the categories you want. Hope that helps

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 1:11 PM, Mária Orovčíková maria.orovcik...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 Talking about Ebay app, is there advanced search function?
 Regards
 Maria
 Sent from iphone
 
 Dňa 29.6.2014, o 19:49, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net napísal:
 
 I think it is the way it is shown now. Mine is the same
 
 -Original Message- From: Lynda Ingraham
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 1:44 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: EBay App
 
 I don't know whether I inadvertently changed something in the Ebay 
 app, but it is much slower to read about the items in a search.
 
 Previously, I could search for an item and the following info would 
 be shown on a single line: Item name, current bid, shipping charges and time 
 left.
 Now, I see the name of the item and have to swipe right to hear the 
 rest of the information on separate lines.
 
 Also, is anyone having problems with the picker? When there is a 
 color choice or size involved, the picker does not allow you to select.
 
 Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
 Lynda
 
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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alex,

 

You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple has
been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the iPhone 6
will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5 inch
version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any more, but
of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be called
innovation.

Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch screen
and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH battery which
is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course they get better
battery life out of such a large battery and it's unfortunate that you will
inevitably find articles comparing the iPhone 5S battery life with that of
the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like comparing 2 similar cars, one
with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40 Gallon tank, of course you will be
able to go further with the car that has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to
put more fuel in it doesn't necessarily make it a better vehicle.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 

I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
not too surprised.

 

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
in battery?

 

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
mailto:siegh...@live.ca  wrote:





Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting
in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to
what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more
responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would
highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a
high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is
in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to
keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the
battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on
my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have
read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their
suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to
NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a
charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i
don't even use my phone at work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem
until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and
have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it work 
well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having battery 
problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given all the 
programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the iPhone5S 
brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint authentication 
and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people say Apple is declining,or 
not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and the iPhone6 and see if Android 
still looks like a better option.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,
  
 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple has 
 been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the iPhone 6 
 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5 inch 
 version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any more, but 
 of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch screen 
 and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH battery which 
 is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course they get better 
 battery life out of such a large battery and it's unfortunate that you will 
 inevitably find articles comparing the iPhone 5S battery life with that of 
 the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like comparing 2 similar cars, one 
 with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40 Gallon tank, of course you will be 
 able to go further with the car that has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to 
 put more fuel in it doesn't necessarily make it a better vehicle.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
  
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However, 
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I 
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my battery 
 somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said, the 
 battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not 
 too surprised.
  
 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe 
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy 
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how 
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very 
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android 
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already bigger 
 than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery 
 drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?
  
 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very 
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need 
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is 
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you 
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
 also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of 
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting 
 in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what 
 they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and 
 while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend 
 that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android 
 phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
 will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate 
 with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern 
 British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town 
 with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in 
 mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is 
 now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 As someone who 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Kelly Pierce
I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
in the task manager.
Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
way to work.


Kelly


On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it work
 well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having battery
 problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given all
 the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
 iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
 authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people say
 Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and the
 iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple has
 been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the iPhone
 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5
 inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any
 more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be
 called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch
 screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH
 battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course
 they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's
 unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the iPhone 5S
 battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like
 comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40
 Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car that
 has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't
 necessarily make it a better vehicle.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though
 I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
 battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was
 said, the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly,
 so I'm not too surprised.

 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will
 very probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many
 Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are
 already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use.
 Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make
 a huge jump in battery?

 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you
 need to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure
 you aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


 Hi Eric,

 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
 fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI
 putting in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation.
 According to what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much
 more responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I
 would highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you
 commit to a high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
 definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
 communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
 northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he
 is in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have
 to keep in mind that if you 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joanne Chua
Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
running on the speed of the dual processor.



On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
 in the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
 streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
 way to work.


 Kelly


 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
 work
 well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having
 battery
 problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given
 all
 the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
 iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
 authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people say
 Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and
 the
 iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple
 has
 been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the
 iPhone
 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5
 inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any
 more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be
 called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch
 screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH
 battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course
 they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's
 unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the iPhone
 5S
 battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like
 comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40
 Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car that
 has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't
 necessarily make it a better vehicle.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even
 though
 I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
 battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was
 said, the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it
 constantly,
 so I'm not too surprised.

 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching.
 Maybe
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return
 policy
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see
 how
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will
 very probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many
 Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are
 already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use.
 Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't
 make
 a huge jump in battery?

 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you
 need to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company
 is
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure
 you aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


 Hi Eric,

 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery
 life.
 I also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and
 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider 
the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions 
to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some 
Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the 
latest on Android.


On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:

Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
running on the speed of the dual processor.



On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:

I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
in the task manager.
Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
way to work.


Kelly


On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
work
well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having
battery
problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given
all
the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people say
Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and
the
iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Alex,

You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple
has
been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the
iPhone
6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5
inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any
more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be
called innovation.
Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch
screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH
battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course
they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's
unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the iPhone
5S
battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like
comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40
Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car that
has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't
necessarily make it a better vehicle.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even
though
I didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was
said, the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it
constantly,
so I'm not too surprised.

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching.
Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return
policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see
how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will
very probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many
Android devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are
already bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use.
Finally, if battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't
make
a huge jump in battery?

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you
need to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company
is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure
you aren't trading those 

app support often wrong

2014-06-29 Thread David Gross
First of all I apologise  for the poorly stated subject line. In my
original post, I meant to say apple care support.

Folks in follow up posts have asked about the status/symptoms  of my Iphone 4s.

My in store appointment is not until Wednesday, so I won't have a
final diagnosis until then. At the time I made my first of many calls
to Apple Care support (877) 204-3930, my issue was that everyone I
attempted to talk to on a phone call using the speaker said they could
not hear me. So I had to plug in the ear buds when making calls.

The reset I was asked to do was from the settings menu. I have cloud
backup for the phone.

When the phone came back on, and I had to re establish my wi fi
connection, I was in a typing mode different than what I was used to.
the rep could not guide me to the proper correction. Since then, the
phone has been setting off a chime sound when I attempt to input into
the phone call keyboard, cutting off the attempted dialed number. It
sounds like the Siri  chime.  I have many radio apps. also mlb at bat,
and ITunes radio. These streams are suddenly starting with the
slightest touch to the phone without opening or touching the
individual app in question. And the 2 finger double tap no longer
stops the stream playing. I have to power the phone off. And my
question about keyboard feedback and voiceover could not be answered
by one of the reps I talked to. He said the keyboard was acting
correctly and there was no adjustment to produce what I was
requesting. Because of the  knowledge  of some nice posters on this
list, I know have the keyboard arrangement I wanted.

So we still don't know what the speaker problem is. also today, I was
at the Pirates game, it started raining, my wife and I put our phones
in our backpack for protection. When the rain stopped, her phone was
cool, and had battery life. Mine was hot, and the battery was drained
completely. Another negative issue since the reset.
Will update this Wednesday.

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Re: Office Mobile for iPhone

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hi Mark, thank you for the clarification. I just figured since I had you set 
your Microsoft outlook account that you have access to email as well.

Joseph Hudson
I device support
Phone
641-715-3900 ex 34315
Email
jhud7...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPad

 On Jun 28, 2014, at 1:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Joseph,
 
 Office Mobile for iPhone is not intended to be used as an email client.
 
 However, you may use the native iOS app to access your Microsoft email
 account.
 
 Mark
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Joseph Hudson
 Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:20 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Office Mobile for iPhone
 
 Hi Mark, do you know if this app allows you to check your Microsoft account
 email?
 
 Joseph Hudson
 I device support
 Phone
 641-715-3900 ex 34315
 Email
 jhud7...@gmail.com
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Jun 27, 2014, at 1:59 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I cannot remember if this information has been posted to the group but:
 Office Mobile for iPhone delivers the three core Office apps-Word, 
 Excel, and PowerPoint-to the iPhone. When Microsoft first launched 
 Office Mobile for iPhone, using the app required an Office 365 
 subscription. Microsoft has since removed that restriction and now offers
 the app for free.
 
 Keep in mind that you will need a free and/or paid Microsoft account 
 in order to use  Office Mobile for iPhone but I suspect that many of 
 us who use any of the Microsoft cloud services already have one.
 
 Upon launching the app for the first time, you will find a rather 
 inaccessible introductory tutorial.  To bypass this one-time screen, 
 simply perform a three-finger right-to-left swipe several times until 
 you get to the last page.  Then, touch near the center of the screen 
 to place focus on the Get Started button which is read correctly by
 VoiceOver.
 
 Once you sign into the app, you will find that it is not the most 
 VoiceOver friendly suite.  Be that as it may, it is somewhat
 usable/accessible.
 
 To be honest, I'm not certain if I'm going to keep Office Mobile for 
 iPhone installed on my device as Pages is much more VoiceOver accessible.
 
 I just wanted to pass this information on to you.
 
 Mark
 
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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Eric,

I am sorry you are so unhappy with your iPhone 5 since updating to iOS 7.1.  I 
know what it is like to have a phone running perfectly only to have things 
seemingly get messed up after an update.  

I have been following this thread and almost everything I was going to say has 
been said so well by others.  However, I would like to add the following:

1.
Always both manually close and restart your phone after using any GPS tracking 
application such as the maps apps.  Today, I had to use A T  T Navigator 3 
separate times for 30 minutes each.  After each trip, even though the 
turn-by-turn navigation automatically ended the trip upon my arrival, I 
manually closed the app and rebooted the phone after each use.  Granted, I am 
using an iPhone 5 S but the reduction in my battery level upon my return home 
after over eight hours out was minimal--even I was surprised.  I always 
manually close and reboot after launching any GPS app such as Google Maps even 
if I don't actually initiate turn-by-turn navigation.

2.
I have an Android phone and I love it.  While I would not necessarily recommend 
that anyone either switch to or from Android or iOS, as a general rule, I don't 
like putting all of my proverbial eggs in one basket.  This is why I maintain a 
pay-as-you go cell account using Android; so I can stay up-to-date on all the 
latest blind and low vision accessibility options in that arena.  While I would 
hate to lose the use of my iPhone, were something to go wrong with it, I would 
have no problem immediately switching to my Android phone running Google's 
TalkBack screen reader.  If you have any interest or curiosity about Android, I 
suggest that you consider purchasing a low-end Android device, perhaps a phone, 
and get a pay-as-you-go SIM card and jump in.  

Eric, in my world, there is no such thing as either Windows or Mac, Android or 
iOS, Jaws or VoiceOver, this or that.  There is room enough for everyone and 
everything if one only has the desire to learn and the finances to get started.

Good luck and hang in there,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, but 
I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't put 
the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the office, I 
will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my phone at 
work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't have 
much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are the 
result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, something 
that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never switch 
to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what the 
situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I heard, 
good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about GPS.  I have 
heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways smarter than 
Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?

Thanks in advance.

Eric

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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Eric Brinkman
Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
noticeable from a user's perspective?

As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
have all functions in one app.

I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.

 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
 have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
 running on the speed of the dual processor.



 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
 in the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
 streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
 way to work.


 Kelly


 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
 work
 well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having
 battery
 problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given
 all
 the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
 iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
 authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people
 say
 Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and
 the
 iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple
 has
 been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the
 iPhone
 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5
 inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any
 more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be
 called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch
 screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH
 battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course
 they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's
 unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the
 iPhone
 5S
 battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like
 comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40
 Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car
 that
 has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't
 necessarily make it a better vehicle.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to
 Droid

 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7.
 However,
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even
 though
 I didn't have Apple Care, and said that 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows for 
advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new graphics 
engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it, what will let 
the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and gets updated, you 
will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit) processors and beyond can 
do which older devices cannot.

Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to register 
or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it doesn't 
register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an artifact of the 
way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge anyone, sighted or not, 
to find a touch interpretation system meant to be used all the time that always 
works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, and those crazy corner gestures were 
hard to get right, for instance.

The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it. 
Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or maybe 
it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string as another 
language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its best to present 
foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes that this is better 
than presenting everything in English and letting you try to figure out what an 
English pronunciation of a language you speak is trying to say. I'd love there 
to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, since, as you said, it can get 
annoying if languages are improperly tagged or detected, but it's not a bug per 
se.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?
 
 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.
 
 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
 
 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.
 
 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
 
 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
 have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
 running on the speed of the dual processor.
 
 
 
 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
 in the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
 streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
 way to work.
 
 
 Kelly
 
 
 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
 work
 well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having
 battery
 problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given
 all
 the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
 iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
 authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Mark,

Your following suggestion is an incorrect and not a practical solution as 
you can close and unload an app from the app switcher to recover used 
memory. You're causing needless wear and tare on your device with the many 
reboots.

Always both manually close and restart your phone after using any GPS 
tracking

I don't know of a single person who uses GPS then has to run a full restart 
of their device. Can you imagine the complaints you would hear if a sighted 
person had to restart their device every time he or she used GPS to find a 
location?

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Hello Eric,

I am sorry you are so unhappy with your iPhone 5 since updating to iOS 7.1. 
I know what it is like to have a phone running perfectly only to have things 
seemingly get messed up after an update.

I have been following this thread and almost everything I was going to say 
has been said so well by others.  However, I would like to add the 
following:

1.
Always both manually close and restart your phone after using any GPS 
tracking application such as the maps apps.  Today, I had to use A T  T 
Navigator 3 separate times for 30 minutes each.  After each trip, even 
though the turn-by-turn navigation automatically ended the trip upon my 
arrival, I manually closed the app and rebooted the phone after each use. 
Granted, I am using an iPhone 5 S but the reduction in my battery level upon 
my return home after over eight hours out was minimal--even I was surprised. 
I always manually close and reboot after launching any GPS app such as 
Google Maps even if I don't actually initiate turn-by-turn navigation.

2.
I have an Android phone and I love it.  While I would not necessarily 
recommend that anyone either switch to or from Android or iOS, as a general 
rule, I don't like putting all of my proverbial eggs in one basket.  This is 
why I maintain a pay-as-you go cell account using Android; so I can stay 
up-to-date on all the latest blind and low vision accessibility options in 
that arena.  While I would hate to lose the use of my iPhone, were something 
to go wrong with it, I would have no problem immediately switching to my 
Android phone running Google's TalkBack screen reader.  If you have any 
interest or curiosity about Android, I suggest that you consider purchasing 
a low-end Android device, perhaps a phone, and get a pay-as-you-go SIM card 
and jump in.

Eric, in my world, there is no such thing as either Windows or Mac, Android 
or iOS, Jaws or VoiceOver, this or that.  There is room enough for everyone 
and everything if one only has the desire to learn and the finances to get 
started.

Good luck and hang in there,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on 
my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have 
read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their 
suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to 
NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a 
charger to the office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i 
don't even use my phone at work.
There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem 
until recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and 
have no issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack 
when I upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the 
latest IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The 
dictation feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often 
typing the word comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are 
so many bugs with Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs 
detailing them.  Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice 
pack, as I didn't have much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 
7.  These issues are the result of Apple rushing products out the door 
before they are ready, something that's been crippling the company ever 
since the IOS
6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never 
switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know 
what the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last 
time I heard, good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure 
about GPS.  I have heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in 
many ways smarter than Siri.
Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?

Thanks in advance.


Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on 
Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows 
for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new 
graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it, 
what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and 
gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit) 
processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.

Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to 
register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it 
doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an 
artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge 
anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be 
used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, and 
those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.

The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it. 
Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or 
maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string 
as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its 
best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes 
that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you 
try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is 
trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, 
since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged 
or detected, but it's not a bug per se.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?

 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.

 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.

 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
 have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
 running on the speed of the dual processor.



 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
 in the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
 streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
 way to work.


 Kelly


 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
 work
 well for them, but switching just 

RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eric,

If you are doing a 3-finger swipe and Voiceover announces the number of rows 
then you are simply not doing the gesture correctly as it apparently registers 
as a 3-finger single tap.
The 3-finger single tap is the gesture for Speak page number or rows being 
displayed.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is noticeable from 
a user's perspective?

As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic recently.  When 
I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls, but sometimes it just 
tells me what rows are being shown without scrolling.  This can make it 
difficult to navigate large playlists, particularly in Spotify which I use more 
than the native music app at this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly 
start speaking as though text were written in a different language.  I used to 
think this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while 
reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this randomly 
on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye at this point.  I 
used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to have all functions in one app.

I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the voices on 
Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider 
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions 
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some 
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the 
 latest on Android.

 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a 
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will 
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that 
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith 
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the 
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some 
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be 
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an 
 androy phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. 
 You can have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, 
 but running on the speed of the dual processor.



 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I 
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my phone at 
 about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the mail, 
 weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open in 
 the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, 
 audio streaming, reading, music listening to music or other 
 activities on my way to work.


 Kelly


 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make 
 it work well for them, but switching just because your older phone 
 is having battery problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 
 will bring, and given all the programming announcements at WWDC 
 this year, and the advances the iPhone5S brought with it that 
 everyone else is now copying (fingerprint authentication and 64-bit 
 processors), I'm always amazed when people say Apple is 
 declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and the
 iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Alex,

 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. 
 Apple has been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all 
 know that the iPhone
 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 
 5.5 inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not 
 innovating any more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a 
 phone can hardly be called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 
 inch screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 
 2800 MAH battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. 
 Yes, of course they get better battery life out of such a large 
 battery and it's unfortunate that you will inevitably find 
 articles comparing the iPhone 5S battery life with that of the 
 Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like comparing 2 similar cars, 
 one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40 Gallon tank, of course 
 you 

RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If you don't want automatic language switching all you have to do is to add
US English to the language rotor and set the language rotor to that option
rather than to Default Language.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 

The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows
for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new
graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it,
what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and
gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit)
processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.

 

Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it
doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an
artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge
anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be
used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, and
those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.

 

The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.
Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or
maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string
as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its
best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes
that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you
try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is
trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off,
since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged
or detected, but it's not a bug per se.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com
mailto:eric.brinkm...@gmail.com  wrote:





Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
noticeable from a user's perspective?

As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
have all functions in one app.

I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:



If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
latest on Android.

On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:



Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
running on the speed of the dual processor.



On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com
mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com  wrote:



I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
in the task manager.
Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
way to work.


Kelly


On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com 

RE: app support often wrong

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Eric,

It sounds to me that your phone has a hardware problem, but I'm sure the
Apple Genious who will check out your phone will be able to tell you.

As far as some of the things you mentioned:

Typing Mode: Standard typing is default when you get a new phone or if you
do a factory reset. In this situation the first thing I do when I am
prompted to enter my WiFi password is turn the rotor to Typing Mode and I
flick down to change it to touch typing. Should a standard Apple tech be
aware of every Voiceover feature? Well, I guess in a perfect world maybe so,
maybe if you call Apple support and state that you are blind and a Voiceover
user you should be immediately transferred to accessibility support where
they might have answers for these issues.

Maybe your home key is dirty or stuck and that is why you are getting the
SIRI tone because the phone may think you are pressing the home key--just a
suggestion.

Anyhow, I wish you luck when you have your appointment and hopefully there
isn't any major problem with the hardware since your 4S is not under
warranty any more.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Gross
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: app support often wrong

First of all I apologise  for the poorly stated subject line. In my original
post, I meant to say apple care support.

Folks in follow up posts have asked about the status/symptoms  of my Iphone
4s.

My in store appointment is not until Wednesday, so I won't have a final
diagnosis until then. At the time I made my first of many calls to Apple
Care support (877) 204-3930, my issue was that everyone I attempted to talk
to on a phone call using the speaker said they could not hear me. So I had
to plug in the ear buds when making calls.

The reset I was asked to do was from the settings menu. I have cloud backup
for the phone.

When the phone came back on, and I had to re establish my wi fi connection,
I was in a typing mode different than what I was used to.
the rep could not guide me to the proper correction. Since then, the phone
has been setting off a chime sound when I attempt to input into the phone
call keyboard, cutting off the attempted dialed number. It sounds like the
Siri  chime.  I have many radio apps. also mlb at bat, and ITunes radio.
These streams are suddenly starting with the slightest touch to the phone
without opening or touching the individual app in question. And the 2 finger
double tap no longer stops the stream playing. I have to power the phone
off. And my question about keyboard feedback and voiceover could not be
answered by one of the reps I talked to. He said the keyboard was acting
correctly and there was no adjustment to produce what I was requesting.
Because of the  knowledge  of some nice posters on this list, I know have
the keyboard arrangement I wanted.

So we still don't know what the speaker problem is. also today, I was at the
Pirates game, it started raining, my wife and I put our phones in our
backpack for protection. When the rain stopped, her phone was cool, and had
battery life. Mine was hot, and the battery was drained completely. Another
negative issue since the reset.
Will update this Wednesday.

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RE: app support often wrong

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sorry, David, for addressing my reply to Hello Eric, just talked on the
phone with a friend named Eric and it was one of these brain farts one gets
occasionally.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Gross
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: app support often wrong

First of all I apologise  for the poorly stated subject line. In my original
post, I meant to say apple care support.

Folks in follow up posts have asked about the status/symptoms  of my Iphone
4s.

My in store appointment is not until Wednesday, so I won't have a final
diagnosis until then. At the time I made my first of many calls to Apple
Care support (877) 204-3930, my issue was that everyone I attempted to talk
to on a phone call using the speaker said they could not hear me. So I had
to plug in the ear buds when making calls.

The reset I was asked to do was from the settings menu. I have cloud backup
for the phone.

When the phone came back on, and I had to re establish my wi fi connection,
I was in a typing mode different than what I was used to.
the rep could not guide me to the proper correction. Since then, the phone
has been setting off a chime sound when I attempt to input into the phone
call keyboard, cutting off the attempted dialed number. It sounds like the
Siri  chime.  I have many radio apps. also mlb at bat, and ITunes radio.
These streams are suddenly starting with the slightest touch to the phone
without opening or touching the individual app in question. And the 2 finger
double tap no longer stops the stream playing. I have to power the phone
off. And my question about keyboard feedback and voiceover could not be
answered by one of the reps I talked to. He said the keyboard was acting
correctly and there was no adjustment to produce what I was requesting.
Because of the  knowledge  of some nice posters on this list, I know have
the keyboard arrangement I wanted.

So we still don't know what the speaker problem is. also today, I was at the
Pirates game, it started raining, my wife and I put our phones in our
backpack for protection. When the rain stopped, her phone was cool, and had
battery life. Mine was hot, and the battery was drained completely. Another
negative issue since the reset.
Will update this Wednesday.

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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread David Chittenden
In my case, I have found that my touch on the display for the three-finger 
vertical flick is too brief, so the three-finger touch command is activated 
instead. The three-finger touch tells VO to report one's location - the exact 
response you describe. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 13:59, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?
 
 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.
 
 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
 
 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.
 
 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
 
 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
 have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
 running on the speed of the dual processor.
 
 
 
 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local newspaper apps open
 in the task manager.
 Everything else is closed. I don't use my iPhone for navigation, audio
 streaming, reading, music listening to music or other activities on my
 way to work.
 
 
 Kelly
 
 
 On 6/29/14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 Yes, exactly. Android is a good OS, and plenty of blind people make it
 work
 well for them, but switching just because your older phone is having
 battery
 problems makes little sense. Given all that iOS8 will bring, and given
 all
 the programming announcements at WWDC this year, and the advances the
 iPhone5S brought with it that everyone else is now copying (fingerprint
 authentication and 64-bit processors), I'm always amazed when people
 say
 Apple is declining,or not innovating, or in trouble. Wait for iOS8 and
 the
 iPhone6 and see if Android still looks like a better option.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 You make a very good point about battery size in larger phones. Apple
 has
 been slow I adopting a larger screen size, but we all know that the
 iPhone
 6 will come in at least something like a 4.7 inch and maybe also a 5.5
 inch version. In the past Apple has been accused of not innovating any
 more, but of course sticking a larger screen on a phone can hardly be
 called innovation.
 Going bac to the issue of battery, the Galaxy S5 which has a 5.1 inch
 screen and is significantly larger than the iPhone 5S, has a 2800 MAH
 battery which is almost twice as big as that of the 5S. Yes, of course
 they get better battery life out of such a large battery and it's
 unfortunate that you will inevitably find articles comparing the
 iPhone
 5S
 battery life with that of the Galaxy S5. Of course that would be like
 comparing 2 similar cars, one with a 20 Gallon tank and one with a 40
 Gallon tank, of course you will be able to go further with the car
 that
 has a 40 Gallon tank, but being able to put more fuel in it doesn't
 necessarily make it a 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread David Chittenden
It is simple to turn off automatic language switching.
Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, languages, and place a check 
in at least one other language. If using English, selecting another English 
language counts.
Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, Rotor, and make sure 
language rotor is selected.
On any screen, turn the rotor to language.
Single-finger vertical flick until VO announces the name of the default 
language without stating default language.
Now, VO will remain locked in one's language and speech will attempt to 
pronounce everything as the chosen language / voice. Note: any incompatible 
language symbology, such as Chinese or Japanese to English, will be skipped by 
the English voice, so one will not be aware that the incompatible symbology is 
even there.
To reactivate automatic language switching, set language back to where VO 
announces default language followed by the language name.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:10, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows for 
 advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new graphics 
 engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it, what will let 
 the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and gets updated, you 
 will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit) processors and beyond 
 can do which older devices cannot.
 
 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to 
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it 
 doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an artifact 
 of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge anyone, sighted 
 or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be used all the time 
 that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, and those crazy corner 
 gestures were hard to get right, for instance.
 
 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it. 
 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or maybe 
 it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string as 
 another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its best to 
 present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes that this 
 is better than presenting everything in English and letting you try to figure 
 out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is trying to say. 
 I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, since, as you said, 
 it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged or detected, but it's 
 not a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?
 
 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.
 
 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
 
 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.
 
 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
 
 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread David Chittenden
Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of 
high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on 
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 
 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows 
 for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new 
 graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it, 
 what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and 
 gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit) 
 processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.
 
 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to 
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it 
 doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an 
 artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge 
 anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be 
 used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, and 
 those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.
 
 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it. 
 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or 
 maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string 
 as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its 
 best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes 
 that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you 
 try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is 
 trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, 
 since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged 
 or detected, but it's not a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?
 
 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.
 
 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
 
 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.
 
 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
 
 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell the story of the processor itself. You can
 have a cheap octa core (8 core) processor on an androy phone, but
 running on the speed of the dual processor.
 
 
 
 On 30/06/2014, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found that if I force quit most of my apps on my iPhone 5, I
 still have 97 percent of battery power when I check my
 phone at about 1:00 p.m after leaving for work at 7:00. I leave the
 mail, weather, messages, find my iPhone and local 

RE: My Battery (was Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid)

2014-06-29 Thread Grant Hardy
Hi Alex, sorry, the address is http://getsupport.apple.com. If you select
iPhone as the product and battery power/charging questions as the topic, you
should be able to run diagnostics yourself. Obviously there's no obligation
for you to try this since you've already been told there's an issue. I'm
just genuinely curious whether you'd be told there's an issue right away (on
the website) or whether you'd simply be directed to contact support.

 

Cheers,

 

Grant

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: June 29, 2014 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My Battery (was Tired of quality decline and considering switching
to Droid)

 

That sounds like a helpful website, but when I went to it, it just told me
my warranty status (expired). There was nothing about any diagnostics or
anything. Did I miss something? Thanks.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com
mailto:grantha...@outlook.com  wrote:





Hi Alex,

 

I'm curious; have you ever gone to  http://selfsolve.apple.com/
http://selfsolve.apple.com and ran diagnostics on your own? Since Apple told
you that you have a battery issue, I'm curious what the website would
display to you (as an end user).

 

Grant

 

From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com [
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

 

I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However,
Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I
didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my
battery somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said,
the battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm
not too surprised.

 

I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe
rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy
is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how
the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very
probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android
devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already
bigger than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if
battery drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump
in battery?

 

Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very
different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need
to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is
perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you
aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.

On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  mailto:siegh...@live.ca
siegh...@live.ca wrote:






Hi Eric,

I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I
also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of
course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's
fault.
As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting
in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to
what they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more
responsive and while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would
highly recommend that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a
high-end Android phone on a 2-year contract.
I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage
definitely will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and
communicate with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in
northern British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is
in town with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to
keep in mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the
battery is now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery
degrades with time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com[
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eric Brinkman
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on
my iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have
read MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their
suggestions, but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to
NYC.  If I don't put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a
charger to the 

Re: using kindle app for the first time, need some directions

2014-06-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
To get into the menu from within a book, double-tap anywhere in the book. For 
even more menu choices, press the menu button within the first menu.

Use a two-finger swipe downward to read continuously from where you are. Tap 
with two fingers to pause and resume reading.

The library is located within the second level of menus mentioned above.

HtH,
Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Paul Ferrara paul.ferr...@insightbb.com wrote:
 
 Hello, the subject says it all; what VO gestures do you use to navigate 
 books, etc?
 Are there any rotar settings you need to change also?
  
 Thank you.
  
 Paul
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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Yeah, but I specified software. Also name the titles--surely you must have 
some. Like I said, there might be a few here and there--maybe in gaming, but 
overall nothing major. So, actually, yes, I'm right, the potential is there, 
but there has not been wide adoption.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of 
high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.

 Joseph

 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows
 for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new
 graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it,
 what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and
 gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit)
 processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.

 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it
 doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an
 artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge
 anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be
 used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, 
 and
 those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.

 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.
 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or
 maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string
 as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its
 best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes
 that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you
 try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is
 trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off,
 since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged
 or detected, but it's not a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?

 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.

 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also consider
 the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice accessibility additions
 to what's available on stock Android. You might want to check out some
 Android specific mailing lists first as well. You'll be getting the
 latest on Android.

 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure that
 you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. Whith
 means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or the
 motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have some
 accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the problems can be
 resolve, or some phones, the problems can't be resolve.
 Also, although the look of numbers of processor available on an androy
 phone, doesn't always tell 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Anthony Vece
That's crazy!


Sent from my iPhone 5s!

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:57 PM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
 
 Hello Eric,
 
 I am sorry you are so unhappy with your iPhone 5 since updating to iOS 7.1.  
 I know what it is like to have a phone running perfectly only to have things 
 seemingly get messed up after an update.  
 
 I have been following this thread and almost everything I was going to say 
 has been said so well by others.  However, I would like to add the following:
 
 1.
 Always both manually close and restart your phone after using any GPS 
 tracking application such as the maps apps.  Today, I had to use A T  T 
 Navigator 3 separate times for 30 minutes each.  After each trip, even though 
 the turn-by-turn navigation automatically ended the trip upon my arrival, I 
 manually closed the app and rebooted the phone after each use.  Granted, I am 
 using an iPhone 5 S but the reduction in my battery level upon my return home 
 after over eight hours out was minimal--even I was surprised.  I always 
 manually close and reboot after launching any GPS app such as Google Maps 
 even if I don't actually initiate turn-by-turn navigation.
 
 2.
 I have an Android phone and I love it.  While I would not necessarily 
 recommend that anyone either switch to or from Android or iOS, as a general 
 rule, I don't like putting all of my proverbial eggs in one basket.  This is 
 why I maintain a pay-as-you go cell account using Android; so I can stay 
 up-to-date on all the latest blind and low vision accessibility options in 
 that arena.  While I would hate to lose the use of my iPhone, were something 
 to go wrong with it, I would have no problem immediately switching to my 
 Android phone running Google's TalkBack screen reader.  If you have any 
 interest or curiosity about Android, I suggest that you consider purchasing a 
 low-end Android device, perhaps a phone, and get a pay-as-you-go SIM card and 
 jump in.  
 
 Eric, in my world, there is no such thing as either Windows or Mac, Android 
 or iOS, Jaws or VoiceOver, this or that.  There is room enough for everyone 
 and everything if one only has the desire to learn and the finances to get 
 started.
 
 Good luck and hang in there,
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Brinkman
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
 
 As someone who uses GPS and browses the web regularly, the battery life on my 
 iPhone 5 with the latest IOS has become completely unacceptable.  I have read 
 MacWorld's guide to improving battery life and followed their suggestions, 
 but I am still lucky to have over 30% charge after a trip to NYC.  If I don't 
 put the phone into airplane mode while at work or bring a charger to the 
 office, I will have 20% or less by the time I leave.  And i don't even use my 
 phone at work.
 There's just poor cell coverage in my office, but this wasn't a problem until 
 recent months.  I think it's due to the walls, as I am on Verizon and have no 
 issues when outside.  If I stay with IOS, I will buy a juice pack when I 
 upgrade to the iPhone 6 this fall.  But there are so many bugs in the latest 
 IOS that I wonder whether I might be better off on Android.  The dictation 
 feature seems to have gotten less smart since IOS 7.1, often typing the word 
 comma when I want a comma punctuation indicator.  There are so many bugs with 
 Facebook and VO that I could easily spend five paragraphs detailing them.  
 Also, I really don't think I should need to buy a juice pack, as I didn't 
 have much of an issue with the battery life prior to IOS 7.  These issues are 
 the result of Apple rushing products out the door before they are ready, 
 something that's been crippling the company ever since the IOS
 6 Maps debacle.  Had you asked me a year ago, I would've said I'll never 
 switch to Droid, but now I'm not so sure.  Does anyone on this list know what 
 the situation is on Droid concerning GPS and accessibility?  The last time I 
 heard, good screen-reading software was available but I wasn't sure about 
 GPS.  I have heard that now Google's dictation functionality is in many ways 
 smarter than Siri.
 Is battery life far superior on the top-of-the-line Droid phones as well?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Eric
 
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2014-06-29 Thread Jose Lomeli
Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does it 
make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the battery? 
Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi David,

Correct, also 64 Bit architecture has removed the 3 Gb RAM limit, without it
a PC with 8, 16 or 32 Gb of RAM would not be possible. Of course most
average PC users don't notice this or benefit from it a lot and as a blind
user high-end gaming, intense graphics oriented applications and so on are
not typically used.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of
high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on 
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to 
 Droid
 
 
 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what 
 allows for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how 
 Apple's new graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I 
 understand it, what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As 
 iOS8 comes out and gets updated, you will start to see more that the 
 A7 (that is, 64-bit) processors and beyond can do which older devices
cannot.
 
 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to 
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge 
 and it doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it 
 just an artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd 
 challenge anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation 
 system meant to be used all the time that always works perfectly. I 
 briefly tried Android, and those crazy corner gestures were hard to get
right, for instance.
 
 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.

 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, 
 or maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the 
 string as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS 
 doing its best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, 
 since it assumes that this is better than presenting everything in 
 English and letting you try to figure out what an English 
 pronunciation of a language you speak is trying to say. I'd love there 
 to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, since, as you said, it can 
 get annoying if languages are improperly tagged or detected, but it's not
a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is 
 noticeable from a user's perspective?
 
 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic 
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls, 
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without 
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists, 
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at 
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as 
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think 
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while 
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do 
 this randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use 
 Seeing Eye at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but 
 prefer to have all functions in one app.
 
 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the 
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.
 
 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also 
 consider the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice 
 accessibility additions to what's available on stock Android. You 
 might want to check out some Android specific mailing lists first as 
 well. You'll be getting the latest on Android.
 
 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a 
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will 
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.
 
 For those that insist on switching to Androy OS, just make sure 
 that you get the phones/tabs that comes with google Androy stock. 
 Whith means, at this stage, either the nexus 4/5, nexus tabs, or 
 the motorola motor E or motor G. Other than that, you will have 
 some accessibility problems. Just the matter of either the 

Re: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Gerardo Corripio
 The screen curtain is for the sighted not to be able to look at your 
phone screen; for instance if you're using your IPhone and you don't 
want for people, when looking over your shoulder, turn on the curtain 
via a three-finger double tap; to turn it off again and regain the 
phone's screen, again three-finger double tap. Good luck!


El 29/06/2014 10:53 p.m., Jose Lomeli escribió:

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does it 
make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the battery? 
Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Joseph,

There are multiple examples. My nieces husband is an environmental
consultant. He just purchased a $40,000 drone to do surveys for oil
companies and so on. The software he uses which processes the huge amounts
of data collected by the drone runs for hours even on a top-of-the line
computer with I7 processor and 32 Gb of RAM. Without 64 bit architecture
this would probably be not even possible.

Also, if you work on very large Excel files (over 2 Gb in size) you can only
do this with the 64 Bit version of Office.

As I said in my previous email, these are often not applications the average
user has to be concerned about, but that doesn't mean the improvement is not
there.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

Yeah, but I specified software. Also name the titles--surely you must have 
some. Like I said, there might be a few here and there--maybe in gaming, but

overall nothing major. So, actually, yes, I'm right, the potential is there,

but there has not been wide adoption.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of

high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.

 Joseph

 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows
 for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new
 graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it,
 what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and
 gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit)
 processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.

 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it
 doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an
 artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge
 anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be
 used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android, 
 and
 those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.

 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.
 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or
 maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string
 as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its
 best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes
 that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you
 try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is
 trying to say. I'd love there to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off,
 since, as you said, it can get annoying if languages are improperly tagged
 or detected, but it's not a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?

 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do this
 randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use Seeing Eye
 at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but prefer to
 have all functions in one app.

 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go 

RE: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jose,

As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
phone from a few feet away.

The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
it is much more difficult especially in bright light.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Jose Lomeli
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, Jose,

Screen curtain is a part of Voiceover. It's used to darken the screen and give 
privacy. As far as I'm aware, it doesn't save battery life, because it doesn't 
disable the screen. I use the screen brightness setting, because it does 
improve battery life and works when Voiceover is off. I think screen curtain is 
a good temmorary privacy solution.

HtH,
Teresa

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How I wonder what you're at
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 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does 
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the battery? 
 Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Cathy
It is 3 finger triple tap.  Double tap is turning the voice over on and off. 
Tap the phone three time with 3 fingers.
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Re: My Battery (was Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid)

2014-06-29 Thread Alex Hall
Thanks, I got it to run. Unhelpfully, it now shows a dialog that says my phone 
is reporting the following issue: power issue. I cannot activate the continue 
button to view more about this, though, for some reason, so can see no details 
or possible solutions Apple can offer. I know it will just say to bring it to 
an authorized repair center, but I'd still like to be able to complete this 
process and see just what Apple thinks about this. Still, I love that I can get 
the diagnostics to run at all; I thought that was something only Apple could 
initiate on a support phone call.
On Jun 29, 2014, at 11:12 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hi Alex, sorry, the address is http://getsupport.apple.com. If you select 
 iPhone as the product and battery power/charging questions as the topic, you 
 should be able to run diagnostics yourself. Obviously there's no obligation 
 for you to try this since you've already been told there's an issue. I'm just 
 genuinely curious whether you'd be told there's an issue right away (on the 
 website) or whether you'd simply be directed to contact support.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Grant
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: June 29, 2014 4:42 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: My Battery (was Tired of quality decline and considering switching 
 to Droid)
  
 That sounds like a helpful website, but when I went to it, it just told me my 
 warranty status (expired). There was nothing about any diagnostics or 
 anything. Did I miss something? Thanks.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi Alex,
  
 I'm curious; have you ever gone to http://selfsolve.apple.com and ran 
 diagnostics on your own? Since Apple told you that you have a battery issue, 
 I'm curious what the website would display to you (as an end user).
  
 Grant
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Alex Hall
 Sent: June 29, 2014 2:09 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid
  
 I am having the same battery problems, also starting with iOS7. However, 
 Apple ran a remote diagnostic on my phone when I called them, even though I 
 didn't have Apple Care, and said that there is a hardware fault in my battery 
 somewhere which is causing problems with fast draining. As was said, the 
 battery is now one and a half years old and I use it constantly, so I'm not 
 too surprised.
  
 I, too, would take a long and hard look at Android before switching. Maybe 
 rent a tablet for a couple weeks, or see what your carrier's return policy 
 is. Facebook is not Apple's fault at all, and I'd be interested to see how 
 the same app performs on Android. also, remember that the iPhone6 will very 
 probably have a larger screen, which means a larger battery. Many Android 
 devices can offer longer battery lives simply because they are already bigger 
 than the iPhone and so can sport more raw power to use. Finally, if battery 
 drain is all in iOS, then who's to say iOS8 won't make a huge jump in battery?
  
 Obviously, the choice is yours. The bottom line is that Android is very 
 different and has its own set of challenges, bugs, and shortcomings you need 
 to know about before you start relying on it full time. No company is 
 perfect, and of course you know what Apple's problems are. Just be sure you 
 aren't trading those issues for an even bigger set with Android.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 I doubt a top of the line Android phone will give you better battery life. I 
 also would be interested to know what all these bugs in iOS 7 are and of 
 course the fact that you are having issues with Facebook is not Apple's fault.
 As for dictation, I don't encounter the problems you have with SIRI putting 
 in the word comma when I want it to put in the punctuation. According to what 
 they said in the keynote dictation in iOS 8 will be much more responsive and 
 while there are some Android fanboys on this list, I would highly recommend 
 that you find a way to try Android before you commit to a high-end Android 
 phone on a 2-year contract.
 I can't diagnose your battery issue, but having poor cell coverage definitely 
 will suck battery as the phone constantly tries to connect and communicate 
 with the towers.My nephew works in a very remote rural area in northern 
 British Columbia and his is the same experience; however, if he is in town 
 with a good signal his battery is just fine. Then you also have to keep in 
 mind that if you got your iPhone 5 when it was released that the battery is 
 now one and a half years old and any rechargeable battery degrades with time.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 12:58 PM

Re: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Feliciano G
Three finger double tap turns off on and on  the speech

  Regards, Feliciano

Sent from the Super-iPhone

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Cathy cats.car...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is 3 finger triple tap.  Double tap is turning the voice over on and off. 
 Tap the phone three time with 3 fingers.
 Cathy  Pilot Dog, Tiny: 
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Back-Up Extraction

2014-06-29 Thread Bill Gallik
Someone on this list (I believe it was Grant) had suggested two programs 
that would be able to extract files -- OOTunes recording files 
specifically -- from the back up images stored on a PC.  But darned if I 
didn't lose that e-mail message, could whomever sent that message please 
follow up with a reply to this message and remind me of the name of those 
programs and whether or not they run on MS Windows platforms or Macs?


Also, how does one go about installing said programs?

Thanks!

Holland's Boy, Bill
- Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) 


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Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Like I said, the potential is there, it's just that the 64bit architecture 
is not commonly used to it's peak performance--especially for blind computer 
users.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Hi David,

Correct, also 64 Bit architecture has removed the 3 Gb RAM limit, without it
a PC with 8, 16 or 32 Gb of RAM would not be possible. Of course most
average PC users don't notice this or benefit from it a lot and as a blind
user high-end gaming, intense graphics oriented applications and so on are
not typically used.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of
high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.

 Joseph

 - Original Message -
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to
 Droid


 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what
 allows for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how
 Apple's new graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I
 understand it, what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As
 iOS8 comes out and gets updated, you will start to see more that the
 A7 (that is, 64-bit) processors and beyond can do which older devices
cannot.

 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge
 and it doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it
 just an artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd
 challenge anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation
 system meant to be used all the time that always works perfectly. I
 briefly tried Android, and those crazy corner gestures were hard to get
right, for instance.

 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.

 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language,
 or maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the
 string as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS
 doing its best to present foreign languages in their proper voices,
 since it assumes that this is better than presenting everything in
 English and letting you try to figure out what an English
 pronunciation of a language you speak is trying to say. I'd love there
 to be a toggle somewhere to turn this off, since, as you said, it can
 get annoying if languages are improperly tagged or detected, but it's not
a bug per se.
 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:59 PM, Eric Brinkman eric.brinkm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Alex, does the 64-bit processor offer much improvement that is
 noticeable from a user's perspective?

 As far as bugs go, scrolling seems to have become more erratic
 recently.  When I swipe up with three fingers, sometimes it scrolls,
 but sometimes it just tells me what rows are being shown without
 scrolling.  This can make it difficult to navigate large playlists,
 particularly in Spotify which I use more than the native music app at
 this point.  Also, occasionally VO will randomly start speaking as
 though text were written in a different language.  I used to think
 this was a Facebook bug, but it happened in Mail once last week while
 reading the subject of a message from Linked In.  Jaws used to do
 this randomly on certain websites as well.  For GPS I mainly use
 Seeing Eye at this point.  I used to use Navigon and BlindSquare but
 prefer to have all functions in one app.

 I am looking forward to having Alex in IOS 8 though and am sure the
 voices on Droid screen-readers won't be as good.

 On 6/29/14, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you're thinking about an Android option, go ahead and also
 consider the Samsung models. Samsung has made some nice
 accessibility additions to what's available on stock Android. You
 might want to check out some Android specific mailing lists first as
 well. You'll be getting the latest on Android.

 On 06/29/2014 08:24 PM, Joanne Chua wrote:
 Also, anything that using tracking mode, doesn't matter it is a
 pedometor, weather app, social media, or any kind of gps apps will
 sucks up the phone battory like a hawk.

 For 

Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I stated from the beginning that the potential is there, its just that the 
common computer user has no need for the advanced computing power currently 
available. Heck, most computer users whether blind or not can do just fine 
with an I5 or I3 processor, and don't have the need for 64bit processor and 
even less with current multi-core able software. In other words, you can buy 
a Ferrari, but just how do you intend to get full performance and your 
money's worth out of this sport scar if you live in an environment like 
Manhattan.

  Regarding your example, I'm absolutely certain this same work was done 
just fine back some 10 years ago way before multicore processors and 64bit 
hardware, it just took longer. You are of course also citing examples at the 
extreme of the normal curve who would indeed benefit from such computing 
power, but most users are within 2 standard deviations and will do just fine 
with the less performing computers I mentioned. If you have not studied 
research methods or even introductory stats please let me know now as we're 
not going to get anywhere in this discussion or any other regarding 
probability, sampling, etc. Sorry.

Joseph

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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Joseph,

There are multiple examples. My nieces husband is an environmental
consultant. He just purchased a $40,000 drone to do surveys for oil
companies and so on. The software he uses which processes the huge amounts
of data collected by the drone runs for hours even on a top-of-the line
computer with I7 processor and 32 Gb of RAM. Without 64 bit architecture
this would probably be not even possible.

Also, if you work on very large Excel files (over 2 Gb in size) you can only
do this with the 64 Bit version of Office.

As I said in my previous email, these are often not applications the average
user has to be concerned about, but that doesn't mean the improvement is not
there.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid

Yeah, but I specified software. Also name the titles--surely you must have
some. Like I said, there might be a few here and there--maybe in gaming, but

overall nothing major. So, actually, yes, I'm right, the potential is there,

but there has not been wide adoption.

Joseph

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From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


Untrue, the 64 bit architecture has considerably increased responsiveness of

high-end graphics rich and intense applications in computing.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 30 Jun 2014, at 14:27, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 The 64bit architecture was also suppose to revolutionize software on
 Windows, but now years later, it never really did happen.

 Joseph

 - Original Message - 
 From: Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 7:10 PM
 Subject: Re: Tired of quality decline and considering switching to Droid


 The 64-bit arcetechture isn't noticeable right now, but it is what allows
 for advances and more powerful apps. For instance, it is how Apple's new
 graphics engine is able to be so amazing, and it is, as I understand it,
 what will let the Alex voice work correctly on iOS. As iOS8 comes out and
 gets updated, you will start to see more that the A7 (that is, 64-bit)
 processors and beyond can do which older devices cannot.

 Scrolling works for me; sometimes, if a finger doesn't move enough to
 register or if I accidentally have one finger too close to the edge and it
 doesn't register, then yes, the gesture fails. I consider it just an
 artifact of the way the input system works, though, and I'd challenge
 anyone, sighted or not, to find a touch interpretation system meant to be
 used all the time that always works perfectly. I briefly tried Android,
 and
 those crazy corner gestures were hard to get right, for instance.

 The language switching is iOS seeing another language and switching to it.
 Maybe an email subject or Facebook post is written in that language, or
 maybe it's English but came from a foreign computer that tagged the string
 as another language even though it isn't. Either way, it's iOS doing its
 best to present foreign languages in their proper voices, since it assumes
 that this is better than presenting everything in English and letting you
 try to figure out what an English pronunciation of a language you speak is
 

Re: Screen curtain!

2014-06-29 Thread Joseph FreeTech
The funny thing about this is that though you try to black out the screen 
for privacy purposes, people will still bug you. The exchange goes as 
follows:

its off,

I'm sorry, are you referring to me?

Yes, your screen is turned off.

At this point I have to decide whether I say thank you for telling me,  or 
I explain to them what the device is doing and risk offending the person by 
trying to prevent them from trying to peak at my iDevice's screen. I usually 
just thank them. Smile.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: Screen curtain!


Hi Jose,

As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
phone from a few feet away.

The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
it is much more difficult especially in bright light.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jose Lomeli
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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