Re: KNFB Reader

[Richard Turner]

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.
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> On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
> wrote:
> 
> I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 
>> taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Lori Dent" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and
>> then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on
>> purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.
>> 
>> Lori and the Gipper
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stop contacts birthdays from being shown in fantastical2?

[trahern culver]

hi all, i’m running the latest version of fantastical2 i have a question 
for you all. 


How do you stop contacts birthdays from being shown in the app? 


your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trey.

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Re: VoiceOver on fleksy

[Harry Bell]

759&$(were all voiced just like the rest of this sentence letter by letter. But 
I can't get symbols keyboard to work. Can anyone else? 

 

> On 19 Dec 2014, at 03:08, Jessica D  wrote:
> 
> Type of document are the numbers and symbols spoken by voice over? In the 
> last version, they were not spoken at all. Only letters were.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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>> Using Fleksy now with VoiceOver, the first letter you type in an edit field 
>> does bout register so you have to type it twice. After that it functions 
>> rather like direct touch typing, including 543 numbers but the first number 
>> you type also fails to register. I can't get symbols keyboard up using 
>> VoiceOver. It is important to enable Voice feedback and allow Fleksy full 
>> access. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 01:54, Jessica D  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are you able to successfully enter numbers and other punctuation when using 
>>> voice over? How can this be accomplished? I completely deleted the app 
>>> because I could not do this.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Harry Bell  wrote:
 
 Latest Fleksy update has far fewer problems using VoiceOver now that I 
 have deleted and reinstalled the app. I can now activate the change to 
 numbers key by double tapping to activate it. Harry
 
 
 
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Re: stop contacts birthdays from being shown in fantastical2?

[Richard Turner]

Try opening Fantastical, Double tap on settings, then double tap on calendars, 
and find Birthdays which says selected, and double tap on it so it no longer 
says selected.
I don't use birthdays but that is the only reference to birthdays I've found in 
Fantastical.
HTH,
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> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:47 AM, trahern culver  wrote:
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> hi all, i’m running the latest version of fantastical2 i have a question for 
> you all. 
> 
> How do you stop contacts birthdays from being shown in the app? 
> 
> your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trey.
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New accessible lossless cd quality music streamer

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi,

There have been launched a new lossless cd-quality music streamer in USA called 
TIDAL HIFI i recommend visiting their web site www.tidalhifi.com and try the 
web player wich is very accessible exept for the search field i.e. search field 
for artists. Personally i use a physical mouse to enter the search field, but 
it is in a group or something(with voice over). Send lots of mails to support 
about easier access to the search field. Otherwise the web player is very 
accessible on mac and maybe also on pc. The iPhone app seems to be accessible 
too. Personally i only use mac.

This music streamer is founded in Norway under the name WIMP HIFI and laundched 
in many european countries and now also in USA.

Take care

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Re: VoiceOver on fleksy

[Jared]

How do you select a suggestion other then the default one? On my 5s swiping 
up and down does not work like it did in the Fleksy VO app.

On Friday, December 19, 2014 3:54:16 AM UTC-5, Harry Bell wrote:
>
> 759&$(were all voiced just like the rest of this sentence letter by 
> letter. But I can't get symbols keyboard to work. Can anyone else? 
>
>   
>
> > On 19 Dec 2014, at 03:08, Jessica D > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Type of document are the numbers and symbols spoken by voice over? In 
> the last version, they were not spoken at all. Only letters were. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> >> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Harry Bell  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Using Fleksy now with VoiceOver, the first letter you type in an edit 
> field does bout register so you have to type it twice. After that it 
> functions rather like direct touch typing, including 543 numbers but the 
> first number you type also fails to register. I can't get symbols keyboard 
> up using VoiceOver. It is important to enable Voice feedback and allow 
> Fleksy full access. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 01:54, Jessica D > 
> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Are you able to successfully enter numbers and other punctuation when 
> using voice over? How can this be accomplished? I completely deleted the 
> app because I could not do this. 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone 
> >>> 
>  On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Harry Bell  > wrote: 
>  
>  Latest Fleksy update has far fewer problems using VoiceOver now that 
> I have deleted and reinstalled the app. I can now activate the change to 
> numbers key by double tapping to activate it. Harry 
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RE: Sonos speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, Sonos is what I would consider Hi-Fi audio equipment for multi-room setups. 
None of their speakers works on batteries and none of them is bluetooth as the 
limited bandwidth of bluetooth does not allow for high-end audio playback. The 
least expensive Sonos speaker is a Play 1 which is $199.99. You can go to 
www.sonos.com and read more about them, the next one up is the Play 3 for $299, 
then the Play 5 for $399. You can buy 2 of any of these and run them as a 
stereo pair and then Sonos offers other players which work with existing 
receivers/amplifyers, they also offer a stand-alone player with 110 Watt 
amplifier built in which you can connect to existing bookshelf or floor 
standing speakers and they offer a TV soundbar called the Playbar and also a 
Subwover which you can use in connection with any of their speakers or the 
Playbar.
Sonos can be set up completely wirelessly by connecting it to your home WiFi, 
but you can also wire one player or speaker to your router or buy what is 
called a Bridge or Boost which is wired to your router. If you set it up this 
way Sonos creates its own wireless network and if you want to set up a surround 
setup in theliving room with a Playbar, Sub and two Play 1 or Play 3 speakers 
as rear speakers then you have to wire at least one Sonos component to your 
router or use a Bridge or Boost.
Sonos is controlled entirely via the iPhone app or you can also install a PC or 
Mac controller and they do of course also have an Android app. They do also 
offer their own touch screen remote, but it is not accessible and each player 
has only 2 buttons, a volume rocker switch and a Play/Pause button. Sonos 
players have no on/off switch, they are always on and go into sleep mode when 
they are not used where they consume I think 1 or less Watts of energy.
It's a fantastic system which has been around for some years, I bought my first 
stuff over 5 years ago and they continue to innovate and come out with new 
products and of course improve their software. It's easy for them to add new 
features since all they have to do is release a software update which you 
install from inside the app and it updates your speakers/players.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos speakers

is the sonos made for in home use only?  Do they make blue tooth speakers? 
How  much do they run for?

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Subject: Re: Sonos speakers

> Hi Sieghard,
>
> You are correct, using the iPhone, if you tap on the queue button, 
> there is a button to turn shuffle on or off.
> After reading your reviews of the speakers, and how accessible the 
> software was on the iPhone, I took the plunge a couple of weeks ago 
> and bought a pair of Play 1's, a Play 5, a Play Bar and Sub.  I love 
> the audio quality, both from streaming online and directly from my pc, 
> and even using the audio in on the Play 5, all is controlled from the 
> phone.  What a wonderful job was done on making the software so 
> accessible with voice over, even through the initial setting up, which 
> is easily done without any sighted help.
>
> Regards.
> Jim.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos speakers
>
> I can't verify this until I get home tonight, but I'm pretty sure that 
> once you have a bunch of music playing that you can go into your Queue 
> on the iPhone app and find the Shuffle option there.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sonos speakers
>
> The only thing I wanted to add to this is that with the IPhone you 
> can't shuffle music. That needs to be done with the PC. Some one 
> correct me if I'm wrong which I hope I am. Otherwise the Sonos IPhone app is 
> quite nice.
> I also agree with using 5's rather than 3's. I don't think that the 
> 3's sound all that great. I don't agree with not having music on  my 
> own computer but as was already stated that can be argued both ways 
> and is a matter of preference.
>
> On 12/18/14, Don Breda  wrote:
>> Hi Dave.
>>
>> I will insert my answers between your quoted questions.
>>
>>
>> On 12/18/2014 12:40 PM, Dave Sheridan wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi List
>>>
>>> I'm looking for hifi equipment as most of what I have I've been 
>>> using for close on 30 years. There were some useful posts a few 
>>> weeks ago regarding Sonos speakers from which I have one or two 
>>> questions which hopefully you can help me with. Am I right in 
>>> thinking that the Sonos Sub along with either the Sonos 1, 3 or 5 
>>> would 

RE: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Charles,

 

And I bet there are plenty of people who had a bad experience with Verizon and 
who wouldn’t touch them with a ten foot or even 20 foot pole. From time to time 
the proverbial shit happens and a company or store or organization you deal 
with screws up. I own a retail store and try my darndest to provide excellent 
customer service,, but I had customers storm out yelling that they never set 
foot into my business again and whatever perceived injustice was just the worst 
case of customer service they experienced and others tell me that I am the best 
guy to deal with and they couldn’t be happier. Anytime a company has millions 
of customers or even dozens of customers for that matter, it is inevitable that 
somebody has a bad experience.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Joseph,

 

I don’t want to be negative here, but one thing I always wonder about is how 
people sign up for these super expensive plans and feel they are getting their 
money’s worth when in fact these plans are a rip-off. Cellular plans in the US 
as well as in Canada for the most part are a rip-off compared to what you can 
get in most of the rest of the world, but you do start to see MVNO’s which 
start to offer reasonable plans although with them it is betterif you just buy 
your phone outright from Apple and I know that in the States that is still an 
issue and I believe you can’t even walk into an Apple store on launch day or 
within the first few weeks and buy an unlocked phone at full price. At least 
here in Canada that is possible.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joseph Hudson
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
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  from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


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- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you have?

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

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  from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: "Kliph" mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my phone 
the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it was time for 
my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had been canceled for 1 
of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, debit card funds not 
available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer available. So I calmly called 
customer care, they told me to go in to the store and they could fix this issue 
and get my phone on schedule.  The store proceeded to tell me it wasn’t there 
fault.  Needless to say I lost my temper, told them to fix it or I was going 
across the street to the other T.  Long story short, customer care fix the 
issue, I got my phone that Friday, stayed with AT&T, and all is well.  
Apparently the computer couldn’t handle the amount of orders for that time 
line, so it generated that email so it wouldn’t have to explain why some 
couldn’t get there phone.
Dec 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Vicky Collins mailto:v-coll...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:





 

First, for any of you following my adventure with the AT&T Next plan, you might 
remember that I tried to pay off that plan with the My AT&T app; and, while the 
app did offer me the opportunity to pay off the installment plan, in the end, 
it credited the payment to my combined billing regular phone bill.  I then 
called AT&T twice, and they said they would fix; but, if it didn't go through 
for some reason, I could call ba

RE: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Sieghard Weitzel]

$90 a month with 2 Gig of data is also a rip-off. You can get the same from 
most MVNO’s for half that. Of course you would have to bring your own unlocked 
phone to the table, but consider saving $40 a months over a 24 months contract 
period, that is $960. Now add the at least $200 you paid if you bought the 
newest iPhone at the time in its least expensive configuration (you may have 
paid $299 or $399 and you end up paying $1,160, $1,260 or $1,360 where you 
could have bought your phone outright for $750, $850 or $950 depnding on the 
model.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most of 
what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.


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you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent 
  from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


---
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you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you have?

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent 
  from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: "Kliph" mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my phone 
the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it was time for 
my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had been canceled for 1 
of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, debit card funds not 
available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer available. So I calmly called 
customer care, they told me to go in to the store and they could fix this issue 
and get my phone on schedule.  The store proceeded to tell me it wasn’t there 
fault.  Needless to say I lost my temper, told them to fix it or I was going 
across the street to the other T.  Long story short, customer care fix the 
issue, I got my phone that Friday, stayed with AT&T, and all is well.  
Apparently the computer couldn’t handle the amount of orders for that time 
line, so it generated that email so it wouldn’t have to explain why some 
couldn’t get there phone.
Dec 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Vicky Collins mailto:v-coll...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:





 

First, for any of you following my adventure with the AT&T Next plan, you might 
remember that I tried to pay off that plan wit

RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Oh, that would be so wonderful!

 

I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find it 
almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they should be 
on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what other people 
may have done!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

 

Go beyond the Christmas story this year;

meet Immanuel (God with us),

Jesus, the crucified Savior,

Christ, the risen LORD!!!

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

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Re: Sonos speakers

[Krister Ekstrom]

Just out of curiosity, i wonder if the recommendations abroad are the same as 
here in Sweden. The sonos vendor here in Sweden or at least one of them 
recommends a Connect amp and stereo speakers for the best sound in the living 
room where you listen most often to music.
/Krister

> 19 dec 2014 kl. 15:41 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
> 
> No, Sonos is what I would consider Hi-Fi audio equipment for multi-room 
> setups. None of their speakers works on batteries and none of them is 
> bluetooth as the limited bandwidth of bluetooth does not allow for high-end 
> audio playback. The least expensive Sonos speaker is a Play 1 which is 
> $199.99. You can go to www.sonos.com and read more about them, the next one 
> up is the Play 3 for $299, then the Play 5 for $399. You can buy 2 of any of 
> these and run them as a stereo pair and then Sonos offers other players which 
> work with existing receivers/amplifyers, they also offer a stand-alone player 
> with 110 Watt amplifier built in which you can connect to existing bookshelf 
> or floor standing speakers and they offer a TV soundbar called the Playbar 
> and also a Subwover which you can use in connection with any of their 
> speakers or the Playbar.
> Sonos can be set up completely wirelessly by connecting it to your home WiFi, 
> but you can also wire one player or speaker to your router or buy what is 
> called a Bridge or Boost which is wired to your router. If you set it up this 
> way Sonos creates its own wireless network and if you want to set up a 
> surround setup in theliving room with a Playbar, Sub and two Play 1 or Play 3 
> speakers as rear speakers then you have to wire at least one Sonos component 
> to your router or use a Bridge or Boost.
> Sonos is controlled entirely via the iPhone app or you can also install a PC 
> or Mac controller and they do of course also have an Android app. They do 
> also offer their own touch screen remote, but it is not accessible and each 
> player has only 2 buttons, a volume rocker switch and a Play/Pause button. 
> Sonos players have no on/off switch, they are always on and go into sleep 
> mode when they are not used where they consume I think 1 or less Watts of 
> energy.
> It's a fantastic system which has been around for some years, I bought my 
> first stuff over 5 years ago and they continue to innovate and come out with 
> new products and of course improve their software. It's easy for them to add 
> new features since all they have to do is release a software update which you 
> install from inside the app and it updates your speakers/players.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Amaro
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sonos speakers
> 
> is the sonos made for in home use only?  Do they make blue tooth speakers?
> How  much do they run for?
> 
> --
> From: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:09 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Sonos speakers
> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> You are correct, using the iPhone, if you tap on the queue button,
>> there is a button to turn shuffle on or off.
>> After reading your reviews of the speakers, and how accessible the
>> software was on the iPhone, I took the plunge a couple of weeks ago
>> and bought a pair of Play 1's, a Play 5, a Play Bar and Sub.  I love
>> the audio quality, both from streaming online and directly from my pc,
>> and even using the audio in on the Play 5, all is controlled from the
>> phone.  What a wonderful job was done on making the software so
>> accessible with voice over, even through the initial setting up, which
>> is easily done without any sighted help.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Jim.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Sonos speakers
>> 
>> I can't verify this until I get home tonight, but I'm pretty sure that
>> once you have a bunch of music playing that you can go into your Queue
>> on the iPhone app and find the Shuffle option there.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 11:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Sonos speakers
>> 
>> The only thing I wanted to add to this is that with the IPhone you
>> can't shuffle music. That needs to be done with the PC. Some one
>> correct me if I'm wrong which I hope I am. Otherwise the Sonos IPhone app is 
>> quite nice.
>> I also agree with using 5's rather than 3's. I don't think that the
>> 3's sound all that great. I don't agree with not having music on  my
>> own computer but as was already stated that can be argued both ways
>> and is a matter of preference.
>> 
>> On 12/18/14, Don Breda  wrote:
>>> Hi Dave.
>>> 
>>> I will 

Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Charles Rivard]

I've always gotten good reliable service, and they have the best coverage in 
this area.  No dropped calls or dropping of signals.  Plus, I did not have the 
money to buy a phone outright, so paying so much a month was the way for me to 
go.  I think that I get what I pay for.

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you! really! are! finished!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:02 AM
  Subject: RE: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


  $90 a month with 2 Gig of data is also a rip-off. You can get the same from 
most MVNO’s for half that. Of course you would have to bring your own unlocked 
phone to the table, but consider saving $40 a months over a 24 months contract 
period, that is $960. Now add the at least $200 you paid if you bought the 
newest iPhone at the time in its least expensive configuration (you may have 
paid $299 or $399 and you end up paying $1,160, $1,260 or $1,360 where you 
could have bought your phone outright for $750, $850 or $950 depnding on the 
model.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

   

  $90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most 
of what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.


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you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is 
the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where 
blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If 
you were interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or 
send a blank message to

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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

  Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


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finished, you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who 
you have?

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email 
is the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where 
blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If 
you were interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or 
send a blank message to

chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

  Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  
I wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.

  ---
  Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
finished, you! really! are! finished!
  - Original Message - From: "Kliph" 
  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


  AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered 
my phone the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it was 
time for my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had been 
canceled for 1 of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, debit card 
funds not available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer available. So I 
calmly called customer care, they told me to go in to the store and they could 
fix this issue and get my phone on schedule.  The store proceeded to tell me it 
wasn’t there fault.  Needless to say I lost my temper, told them to fix it or I 
was going across the street to the other T.

RE: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Rick Alfaro]

If TMobile coverage is good in your area, I can say without a doubt that they 
are outstanding and the call quality with either WiFi calling or Voice Over LTE 
is excellent. Their LTE speeds are really good especially if you live in an 
area where they have upgraded to wide band LTE. They will even pay your ETF to 
switch over.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliph
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

I think it depends on whne you call and where you live.  Besides the little 
miss hap with my order, I have had nothing but great customer service with AT&T 
on the phone and in the store.  Plus I get more bang for my buck then I would 
with verizon or sprint, considering teen mobile now since they are coming out 
with a stash your data plan in january.  basically if you don’t use your data, 
it carries over to the next month, good for the wholeyear.  Sounds nice, so may 
be jumping ship for just that reason.  I doubt everyone else will follow sute 
on that one.

Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always 
patient with you.

Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@googlegroups.com 
 

Or just follow us on twitter   
https://twitter.com/PealTheApple

And ask your question there.  All are welcome!

 

 

 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:15 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

 

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


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you! really! are! finished!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph Hudson  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you have?

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here.

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

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  from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com> > wrote:

Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - From: "Kliph" mailto:kliphzkor...@icloud.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my phone 
the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it was time for 
my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had been canceled for 1 
of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, debit card funds not 
available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer available. So I calmly called 
customer care, they told me to go in to the store and they could fix this issue 
and get my phone on schedule.  The store proceeded to tell me it wasn’t there 
fault.  Needless to say I lost my temper, told them to fix it or I was going 
across the street to the other T.  Long story short, customer care fix the 
issue, I got my phone that Friday, stayed with AT&T, and all is well.  
Apparently the computer couldn’t handle the amount of orders for that time 
line, so it generated that email so it wouldn’t have to explain why some 
couldn’t get there phone.
Dec 18, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Vicky Collins mailto:v-coll...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:





 

First, for any of you following my adventure with the AT&T Next plan, you might 
remember that I tried to pay off that plan with the My AT&T app; and, while the 
app did offer me the opportunity to pay off the installment plan, in the end, 
it credited the payment to my combined billing regular phone bill.  I then 
called AT&T twice, and they said they would fix; but, if it didn't go through 
for some reason, I could call back for a refund within seventy-two hours.  
Needless to say, when I got my phone bill for the second time with the Next 
plan still in 

Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, I'm on the installment plan with AT&T here in the states, in and my 
brother are both on the installment plan and neither one of us have our 
installments hate off yet. That is part of the problem as to why it's high as 
it is. If we would've bought our phones out right it would've been cheaper but 
neither one of us good morning to do that as would've had to pay Dollar 600.
> On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joseph,
>  
> I don’t want to be negative here, but one thing I always wonder about is how 
> people sign up for these super expensive plans and feel they are getting 
> their money’s worth when in fact these plans are a rip-off. Cellular plans in 
> the US as well as in Canada for the most part are a rip-off compared to what 
> you can get in most of the rest of the world, but you do start to see MVNO’s 
> which start to offer reasonable plans although with them it is betterif you 
> just buy your phone outright from Apple and I know that in the States that is 
> still an issue and I believe you can’t even walk into an Apple store on 
> launch day or within the first few weeks and buy an unlocked phone at full 
> price. At least here in Canada that is possible.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> ] On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
>  
> And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
> asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
> next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.
> 
> Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
> best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
> new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
> and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you 
> were interested please subscribe here.
> http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org 
>  or 
> send a blank message to
> chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent 
>  from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  > wrote:
> 
>> Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
>> technical assistance when I've needed it.
>> 
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
>> you! really! are! finished!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Joseph Hudson 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
>>>  
>>> Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you 
>>> have?
>>> 
>>> Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is 
>>> the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
>>> making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is 
>>> where blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in 
>>> communicate. If you were interested please subscribe here. 
>>> http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org 
>>>  or 
>>> send a blank message to
>>> chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent 
>>>  from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
 wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.
 
 ---
 Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
 finished, you! really! are! finished!
 - Original Message - From: "Kliph" >>> >
 To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
 Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
 
 
 AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my 
 phone the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it 
 was time for my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had 
 been canceled for 1 of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, 
 debit card funds not available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer 
 available. So I calmly called customer care, they told me to go in to the 
 store and they could fix this issue and get my phone on schedule.  The 
 store

Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Denny Schwab]

Hello,

Here is the first item I found when I did a google search for this product:

http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/778/snoozy-2-0-is-launched

This is not quite what you were looking for, but it does work with the
above lights and the developer looks to be very willing to work with
accessibility.  Look down at the comments and see where the developer
mentions putting in many accessibility support items for blind-users.

I have not gone and downloaded the application, but may very well do
so in the near future.

Thanks,

Denny

On 12/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi
> connected LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Oh, that would be so wonderful!
>
>
>
> I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off
> when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find
> it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they
> should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what
> other people may have done!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik   > wrote:
>
>
>
> I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted
> company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without
> turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home
> environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.
>
>
>
> But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be
> included here!   ;-)
>
> 
> To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
> Holland & Bill
> - "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I
> have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the
> rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has
> come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin,
> if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a
> kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the
> long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open
> their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they
> really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of
> creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never
> put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me
> good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
> - "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
>
> Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected
> LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the 

RE: Sonos speakers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Krister,

The fidelity of a Connect Amp depends entirely on the speakers you connect to 
it. If you connect a pair of $150 or $200 bookshelf speakers to it it won't 
sound as good as when you connect a pair of $1,000 speakers to it. If you 
already own a pair of really good speakers I agree that going with a Connect 
Amp is a good way to go. It's actually a very good little amplifier with it's 
55 Watss of Class D amplification per channel. If, however, you don't own a set 
of good speakers and you would possibly buy a pair of $800 or $1000 speakers + 
spend $600 on a Connect Amp, you really should probably go to a store and 
listen to a setup of two Play 5 in stereo mode with a Sonos Sub. This setup 
would cost $1,500 so about the same as a good pair of speakers and a Connect 
Amp and you gain the benefit of a subwover. I would say you have to spend more 
if you buy a Connect Amp with traditional speakers although you could of course 
add a Sonos Sub to that type of setup.

Either way, the point is that you can have a $200 single Play 1 Sonos system 
and still take advantage of the great features they offer with respect to 
access to free and subscription based online music services or you can spend 
many thousands of Dollars to put Sonos everywhere in yoru house and customize 
it any which way you like. I have a very high-end system in a separate music 
room in my basement with a $6,000 tube Amp and custom speakers and subwovers 
and the source for that system used to be a $2,500 Sonic Frontiers CD Transport 
which was connected to an even more expensive Sonic Frontiers Digital to 
Analogue converter. I have replaced this CD Transport with a Sonos Connect 
which I connected via Digital Coax cable to my Digital to Analogue converter so 
that it only provides the signal, my high-end system decodes the signal, 
amplifies it and plays it on the custom speaker/subwover setup and it sounds 
every bit as good as when I had my CD Transport hooked up except now I have so 
much more flexibility when it comes to what music I want to play. Before I was 
limited to my CD collection, now I can play any of them which are now all 
ripped in lossless FLAC format to an external network attached hard drive, but 
I can also play lossless music from my new Tidal subscription and to my 47-year 
old ears I cannot hear the difference. This is a good example where I combined 
a 20-year old really high-end stereo system with a new piece of technology for 
an amazing result.





Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Krister Ekstrom
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos speakers

Just out of curiosity, i wonder if the recommendations abroad are the same as 
here in Sweden. The sonos vendor here in Sweden or at least one of them 
recommends a Connect amp and stereo speakers for the best sound in the living 
room where you listen most often to music.
/Krister

> 19 dec 2014 kl. 15:41 skrev Sieghard Weitzel :
> 
> No, Sonos is what I would consider Hi-Fi audio equipment for multi-room 
> setups. None of their speakers works on batteries and none of them is 
> bluetooth as the limited bandwidth of bluetooth does not allow for high-end 
> audio playback. The least expensive Sonos speaker is a Play 1 which is 
> $199.99. You can go to www.sonos.com and read more about them, the next one 
> up is the Play 3 for $299, then the Play 5 for $399. You can buy 2 of any of 
> these and run them as a stereo pair and then Sonos offers other players which 
> work with existing receivers/amplifyers, they also offer a stand-alone player 
> with 110 Watt amplifier built in which you can connect to existing bookshelf 
> or floor standing speakers and they offer a TV soundbar called the Playbar 
> and also a Subwover which you can use in connection with any of their 
> speakers or the Playbar.
> Sonos can be set up completely wirelessly by connecting it to your home WiFi, 
> but you can also wire one player or speaker to your router or buy what is 
> called a Bridge or Boost which is wired to your router. If you set it up this 
> way Sonos creates its own wireless network and if you want to set up a 
> surround setup in theliving room with a Playbar, Sub and two Play 1 or Play 3 
> speakers as rear speakers then you have to wire at least one Sonos component 
> to your router or use a Bridge or Boost.
> Sonos is controlled entirely via the iPhone app or you can also install a PC 
> or Mac controller and they do of course also have an Android app. They do 
> also offer their own touch screen remote, but it is not accessible and each 
> player has only 2 buttons, a volume rocker switch and a Play/Pause button. 
> Sonos players have no on/off switch, they are always on and go into sleep 
> mode when they are not used where they consume I think 1 or less Watts of 
> energy.
> It's a fantastic system which has been aroun

RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Betty,

Thanks for this discovery. I'll probably get this Snoozie app just because the 
developer seems so interested in supporting accessibility. I think I am going 
to buy a start package of Philipps Hue in the relatively near future and then 
I'll report back as to how this all works out.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Denny Schwab
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hello,

Here is the first item I found when I did a google search for this product:

http://www.everyhue.com/vanilla/discussion/778/snoozy-2-0-is-launched

This is not quite what you were looking for, but it does work with the
above lights and the developer looks to be very willing to work with
accessibility.  Look down at the comments and see where the developer
mentions putting in many accessibility support items for blind-users.

I have not gone and downloaded the application, but may very well do
so in the near future.

Thanks,

Denny

On 12/19/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> That is where at this point the Light Detector app comes in handy.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi
> connected LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Oh, that would be so wonderful!
>
>
>
> I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off
> when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find
> it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they
> should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what
> other people may have done!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Cheryl
>
>
>
>
>
> Go beyond the Christmas story this year;
>
> meet Immanuel (God with us),
>
> Jesus, the crucified Savior,
>
> Christ, the risen LORD!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik   > wrote:
>
>
>
> I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted
> company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without
> turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home
> environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.
>
>
>
> But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be
> included here!   ;-)
>
> 
> To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
> Holland & Bill
> - "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I
> have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the
> rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has
> come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin,
> if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a
> kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the
> long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open
> their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they
> really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of
> creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never
> put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me
> good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
> - "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
>
> Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected
> LED light bulbs
>
>
>
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their We

Re: KNFB Reader

[Charles Rivard]

I hate them with a purple passion, even though I am color blind.  (grin).  I 
wish they were done away with.  The same level of security could be attained by 
asking a question about something on the web site that pertains to what you 
would be reading, or a simple math problem could randomly be generated.  
Whatever they come up with should be accessible to everyone, in clearly 
readable text that screen readers will be able to identify.

---
Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, 
you! really! are! finished!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:22 AM
  Subject: Re: KNFB Reader


  OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very 
hard for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.
  Richard




Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe




Sent from my iPhone 5S




  On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:


I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone


  On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:



  Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he 
mentioned 

  taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

  - Original Message - 

  From: "Lori Dent" 

  To: 

  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

  Subject: Re: KNFB Reader





  Hi Chris,



  I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

  then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

  purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.



  Lori and the Gipper



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Sonos and the Tidal music service

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Sonos owners,

 

Just wanted to let you know that while Tidal is not officially supported by
Sonos, you can add the service to your Sonos system via the Beta/Sonos Labs
feature. Here is what you do:

 

1.   Go to www.TidalHiFi.com   and sign up for
an account if you don't already have one

2.   Open the Sonos app on your iphone and go to the music menu, then
Settings, then My Services

3.   You will see a list of the services you have setup with the
title/heading of "in Use". Double tap on "In Use" and then flick right to
the "beta" option.

4.   Do a 3-finger swipe up until you get to the end of the listing of
services, it's in alphabetical order so Tidal is towards the end.

5.   Double tap on Tidal, then on Add Account, say you already have an
account and then enter your login email address and password.

 

I have just set it up and I'm about 5 songs into an album I added to the My
Music section, the Tidal implementation seems to be very nice on Sonos and
while the first song skipped to the next after a few seconds, it's been
playing solid and without skips and drop-outs ever since.

 

I just got off the phone with Sonos support to try and figure out why my
Deezer account/subscription constantly skips after playing half the song.
The tech support guy I talked to was as friendly and helpful as always with
Sonos support. I submitted a couple of diagnostics and he said he is going
to escalate this to the next level since he doesn't see much in the
diagnostic reports which would indicate why it's doing this. For now I'm
happy that Tidal seems to be working well and it just may become the music
subscription of my choice.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Sonos and the Tidal music service

[Michael Amaro]

how accessible is the title iPhone Ap?  I already have spotify and I can listen 
to any song any album.  Can I do the same with title?


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Sonos and the Tidal music service


Hello Sonos owners,

 

Just wanted to let you know that while Tidal is not officially supported by 
Sonos, you can add the service to your Sonos system via the Beta/Sonos Labs 
feature. Here is what you do:

 

1.   Go to www.TidalHiFi.com and sign up for an account if you don’t 
already have one

2.   Open the Sonos app on your iphone and go to the music menu, then 
Settings, then My Services

3.   You will see a list of the services you have setup with the 
title/heading of “in Use”. Double tap on “In Use” and then flick right to the 
“beta” option.

4.   Do a 3-finger swipe up until you get to the end of the listing of 
services, it’s in alphabetical order so Tidal is towards the end.

5.   Double tap on Tidal, then on Add Account, say you already have an 
account and then enter your login email address and password.

 

I have just set it up and I’m about 5 songs into an album I added to the My 
Music section, the Tidal implementation seems to be very nice on Sonos and 
while the first song skipped to the next after a few seconds, it’s been playing 
solid and without skips and drop-outs ever since.

 

I just got off the phone with Sonos support to try and figure out why my Deezer 
account/subscription constantly skips after playing half the song. The tech 
support guy I talked to was as friendly and helpful as always with Sonos 
support. I submitted a couple of diagnostics and he said he is going to 
escalate this to the next level since he doesn’t see much in the diagnostic 
reports which would indicate why it’s doing this. For now I’m happy that Tidal 
seems to be working well and it just may become the music subscription of my 
choice.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 


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Verbatim bt keyboard

[ramy moustafa]

Hello all iphone users:
i bought a new bluetooth keyboard called Verbatim,  very wonderful keyboard. 
but i have a prmblem that happened with my previgs keyboard. 
sometimes when i start typing,  the keyboard repeat each letter 2 times, don't 
know how it happenand or what can cause this, but now i cannot use it, so, do 
you know how can i fix this issue?


Ramy moustafa saber
Musicc instructor at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Rose Combs]

Light detector is wonderful for finding lights around.  I don’t think I know 
anything about the lights you are talking about here, in fact, I know I haven’t 
a clue but I do know how guests seem to turn on every light in the house and 
then leave me to figure out which ones are on and I find some I’d least expect, 
like in my bedroom where they were not invited or expected to be.  Drives me a 
bit crazy.  Not sure I would automate this place anyway it would probably break 
everything, and I have had enough things stop working here over the past 
several months.  

 

Need to change batteries in a talking thermostat today, hope I have the right 
batteries and can figure out how to do this, recall Tom taking it off the wall 
once a few years ago, not sure if I can do it or will have to call 
cousin/husband over 100 miles away to help, hopefully since I know how to use 
almost any hand tool I can do this alone.  If I don’t have the right batteries 
I can call someone close but she is not mechanical at all, I know 10 times what 
she does about fixing anything.  She is a great driver, great finder if 
something its lost but no mechanic.  

 

At least Dad knew life would be difficult enough, so he taught me at a very 
early age how to use hand tools, screwdrivers, wrenches, of all types and how 
to take apart and put things together.  I could have been only about four when 
I replaced a door knob that was a problem in their house.  Mom did not want me 
to do it but once I did she was glad she did not have to wait for Dad to come 
home and fix it.  

Still messing with this thermostat is not my idea of fun but if I don’t I won’t 
have the right assistance until Christmas Eve.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Gallik
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED li

RE: Sonos and the Tidal music service

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes,you can. But if you are using it just on the iPhone and you are happy with 
Spotify there is probably not much reason to switch. Tidal is twice as much as 
Spotify and you would need some really high-end headset or equipment like Sonos 
to hear the difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Michael Amaro
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos and the Tidal music service

 

how accessible is the title iPhone Ap?  I already have spotify and I can listen 
to any song any album.  Can I do the same with title?

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:19 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Sonos and the Tidal music service

 

Hello Sonos owners,

 

Just wanted to let you know that while Tidal is not officially supported by 
Sonos, you can add the service to your Sonos system via the Beta/Sonos Labs 
feature. Here is what you do:

 

1.   Go to www.TidalHiFi.com   and sign up for an 
account if you don’t already have one

2.   Open the Sonos app on your iphone and go to the music menu, then 
Settings, then My Services

3.   You will see a list of the services you have setup with the 
title/heading of “in Use”. Double tap on “In Use” and then flick right to the 
“beta” option.

4.   Do a 3-finger swipe up until you get to the end of the listing of 
services, it’s in alphabetical order so Tidal is towards the end.

5.   Double tap on Tidal, then on Add Account, say you already have an 
account and then enter your login email address and password.

 

I have just set it up and I’m about 5 songs into an album I added to the My 
Music section, the Tidal implementation seems to be very nice on Sonos and 
while the first song skipped to the next after a few seconds, it’s been playing 
solid and without skips and drop-outs ever since.

 

I just got off the phone with Sonos support to try and figure out why my Deezer 
account/subscription constantly skips after playing half the song. The tech 
support guy I talked to was as friendly and helpful as always with Sonos 
support. I submitted a couple of diagnostics and he said he is going to 
escalate this to the next level since he doesn’t see much in the diagnostic 
reports which would indicate why it’s doing this. For now I’m happy that Tidal 
seems to be working well and it just may become the music subscription of my 
choice.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi Carol.  I find that if I do the two finger double tap nearer to the center 
of the screen it works more consistently.  On my 4S I could do it right above 
the home button, but on my 6 that doesn’t work as well.

 

I just got a set of speed dots for my 6, and I think the end button has a dot, 
but I’ve not checked that out.  Maybe someone else could chime in about that.  
If it is, as I believe, marked it might be well worth the investment for you.  
They aren’t that expensive.

God bless!

Paula and Boston

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Sometimes it happens.  Sometimes not.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Edmonds, Lucy (LARA)   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:31 PM

Subject: RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Just tap the phone with two fingers twice anywhere on the screen to end the 
call. That’s what I do.

Lucy Edmonds

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Hi all,

 

I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse for 
me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm trying to 
locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch doesn't always 
work.

 

At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not connected 
to a headset.

 

Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this isn't 
a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and I quite 
often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.

 

Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

[carol.pearso...@googlemail.com]

Thanks, Paula, for your thoughts particularly about Speedots.  I tried them 
once but found they didn't work for me as I was so keen to actually feel the 
dot that I was just going wrong all the time.

Thanks, though.  It was worth a thought and I'm definitely going to take care 
to follow better procedures when ending calls, giving the time for the phone 
speaker to come back on etc.

Have a lovely Christmas also.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Paul and Paula Jordan 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:27 PM
  Subject: RE: ENDING PHONECALLS


  Hi Carol.  I find that if I do the two finger double tap nearer to the center 
of the screen it works more consistently.  On my 4S I could do it right above 
the home button, but on my 6 that doesn’t work as well.

   

  I just got a set of speed dots for my 6, and I think the end button has a 
dot, but I’ve not checked that out.  Maybe someone else could chime in about 
that.  If it is, as I believe, marked it might be well worth the investment for 
you.  They aren’t that expensive.

  God bless!

  Paula and Boston

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:26 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

   

  Sometimes it happens.  Sometimes not.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:31 PM

Subject: RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Just tap the phone with two fingers twice anywhere on the screen to end the 
call. That’s what I do.

Lucy Edmonds

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Hi all,

 

I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse for 
me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm trying to 
locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch doesn't always 
work.

 

At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not connected 
to a headset.

 

Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any 
workable solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe 
this isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me 
and I quite often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.

 

Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: Verbatim bt keyboard

[Eve]

Hi,
Mine does that once in a while.  The only thing that works for me is to turn 
off the phone, wait a couple of minutes and then turn it back on again. 
Hope this helps!


Eve
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RE: KNFB Reader

[Rose Combs]

No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

 

Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house which 
is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current job in 
March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a lot of 
hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, even 
brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things are 
wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for jobs, 
or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants to 
toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what I 
can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

 

Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

 

Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a part 
of my nature.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 

start?

 

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RE: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Rose Combs]

I agree, only dropout I have had was on the way from Scottsdale to Laughlin in 
the mountains for about 30 minutes, in Laughlin or Las Vegas even in Reno my 
Verizon phones have had great connections.  

I don’t travel that far these days but even in Florence, Arizona where my 
cousin lives I have great service.  Better than her Droid phone has she cuts 
out a lot, I never seem to have that problem and she is on Verizon also.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

I've always gotten good reliable service, and they have the best coverage in 
this area.  No dropped calls or dropping of signals.  Plus, I did not have the 
money to buy a phone outright, so paying so much a month was the way for me to 
go.  I think that I get what I pay for.


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- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:02 AM

Subject: RE: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month with 2 Gig of data is also a rip-off. You can get the same from 
most MVNO’s for half that. Of course you would have to bring your own unlocked 
phone to the table, but consider saving $40 a months over a 24 months contract 
period, that is $960. Now add the at least $200 you paid if you bought the 
newest iPhone at the time in its least expensive configuration (you may have 
paid $299 or $399 and you end up paying $1,160, $1,260 or $1,360 where you 
could have bought your phone outright for $750, $850 or $950 depnding on the 
model.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most of 
what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.


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From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you have?

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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.

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- Original Message - From: "Kliph" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my phone 
the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it was time for

RE: KNFB Reader

[Rose Combs]

Would one of those petition sites where you can add up people who dislike or 
like something help?  Just asking, I am not interested in doing that kind of 
research at this time but if all I had to do is add my name I could manage 
that.  

 

Actually doubt if it would do any good but… 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

I hate them with a purple passion, even though I am color blind.  (grin).  I 
wish they were done away with.  The same level of security could be attained by 
asking a question about something on the web site that pertains to what you 
would be reading, or a simple math problem could randomly be generated.  
Whatever they come up with should be accessible to everyone, in clearly 
readable text that screen readers will be able to identify.


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- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:22 AM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 

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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my phone to itunes

[Jen Colley]

Hi,  
When I connect my phone to itunes 12, where do I find the place to sync eject 
etc?  
I can’t seem to find it when I am in the summary area of my phone.  
Jen  

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Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my phone to itunes

[Jessica D]

Document are you on a Mac or Windows computer? If you are on a Mac, go into the 
summary area, stop interacting, and it will be a bulb the scroll area.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Jen Colley  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> When I connect my phone to itunes 12, where do I find the place to sync eject 
> etc? 
> I can’t seem to find it when I am in the summary area of my phone. 
> Jen 
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Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Chris Nusbaum]

To my knowledge, the two-finger double tap no longer works with iOS 8. Try 
taking the phone away from your ear so it automatically switches to 
speakerphone. Then you should be able to hear the End Call button being 
announced.

Chris Nusbaum

> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:26 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
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> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really  still not happy about the 
> IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse 
> for me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm 
> trying to locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch 
> doesn't always work.
>  
> At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
> phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
> really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not 
> connected to a headset.
>  
> Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
> solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this 
> isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and 
> I quite often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.
>  
> Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.
>  
> Carol P
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Re: Fleksy update

[Chris Nusbaum]

With the advent of  integrated predictive typing in iOS 8, is there really any 
use for Fleksy? I'm really curious about this, since I don't have much 
experience with the app. Does it do something that the feature in the keyboard 
doesn't?

Chris Nusbaum

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> Fleksy has just brought out an update supposedly improving VoiceOver use but 
> it seems a calamity to me as any attempt to insert punctuation by swiping to 
> the right results in words or parts of words being deleted so don't get your 
> hopes up yet for the big fix we have been waiting for
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Re: Unlocking an Inactive iPHone 4

[orthnel odeane]

i have an iphone 4 that is activated but still unlocked i am from ja but my 
iphone 4 is at&t and is there a way to unlock this phone out of the country


On Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:07:14 PM UTC-5, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
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> Hello All,
>
> a quick question for those of you in the know.
>
> I have a new iPhone 4 here, that I recently acquired, its locked to a 
> network I do not have a SIM card for, and as of yet has not been activated 
> using iTunes.
>
> When I put a different network SIM in the phone iTunes reports that it 
> cannot activate it with the SIM inserted, and that I should insert the SIM 
> it came with...
>
> investigation on Google reveals that this is owing to the phone being 
> locked to a different network than I wish to use.
>
> I have also now confirmed this with Apple.
>
> Question, there are a range of unlock services out there, has anyone used 
> one of these successfully, and which ones might you recommend, and on top 
> of this, is it possible to unlock an iPhone which at this time is not 
> activated?
>
> thanks to anyone who can answer this.
>
>
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RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Alex Stone]

Carol, Yes I do feel the same, however, if I’m not using a headset I always end 
calls with a two finger double tap. In the past this didn’t always work, but it 
seems to work pretty well now.

Cheers

Alex

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: 17 December 2014 13:27
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Hi all,

 

I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse for 
me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm trying to 
locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch doesn't always 
work.

 

At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not connected 
to a headset.

 

Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this isn't 
a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and I quite 
often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.

 

Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi Sieghard,

I have the Wemo switch which lets me turn power outlets on / off
remotely; as far as I'm aware all the Wemo devices use the same app
for control & in my experience the app is fully accessible. With a
little bit of jailbreak magic I can now turn things on and off around
the house with my voice. I know jailbreaking's not really your thing
but sometimes it's nice to show what can be done.

As a side note, solutions for controling wemo devices outside of iOS
aren't overly great at the moment but I did find this
http://moderntoil.com/?p=839 shell script which works for me. It can
be made to run under Windows with the help of sigwin.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which
> can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light
> bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part
> become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn
> off
> all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may
> only be 2 or 3 years away).
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
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RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Nicola Sanders]

Hi,

Have people tried ending a call by pressing the power/lock button twice in 
quick succession?  This works reliably for me in iOS7, but I haven't upgraded 
to iOS8 yet, for reasons which are irrelevant for this topic, so I have no idea 
whether it still works.  Perhaps it's worth a try.

Nicky


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jim Barbour
Sent: 17 December 2014 16:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

Both the 2 finger double tap and the sleep switch work well for me.

As was already said, take the phone away from your ear, wait for the speaker to 
turn on, and then do the 2 finger double tap.  The 2 finger double tap can take 
a bit of practice.  Your fingers should be spread a bit apart when you do the 
double tap.

The sleep switch is the exact opposite, it won't hang up a call unless 
voiceover is on and the phone is at your ear.

The hangup button used to stretch across the whole bottom of the screen.  Now 
it's just a button in the middle of the screen.  If you place your finger at 
the bottom of the screen in the middle and draw a line up, you should also find 
the button.

I hope this helps,

Jim

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:31:04PM -, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Yes, perhaps I do the gestures before moving the phone from my ear;  but I 
> like to ensure the call is cut off as soon as possible and that just doesn't 
> work smoothly for me.
> 
> Carol P
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Alex Hall 
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 1:47 PM
>   Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS
> 
> 
>   I use that all the time. You take the phone away from your ear, give it a 
> second so the screen can come back on (it is off so your cheek doesn't press 
> buttons), then double tap two fingers anywhere on the screen. If you do it 
> too quickly after lowering the phone, the screen won't yet be on and you 
> might think the gesture isn't working. Remember that, when you lower the 
> phone, it will switch to speakerphone mode automatically. I normally put my 
> right thumb over the speaker as I do this to muffle any sounds from the other 
> caller, especially if I'm hanging up on a voicemail prompt or similarly loud 
> noise.
> 
> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:35 AM, Colin Matthews 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi!
> So do you have a problem with the 2 finger double tap to end calls 
> because that can be done anywhere on the screen!
> Colin
> 
> 
> On 17 Dec 2014, at 13:26, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>   Hi all,
> 
>   I think it's time I said clearly thatI'm really still not happy about 
> the iPhone's method(s)of ending phone calls.  I suppose this may have got 
> worse for me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button 
> I'm trying to locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch 
> doesn't always work.
> 
>   At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of 
> the phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  
> but I really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not 
> connected to a headset.
> 
>   Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any 
> workable solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe 
> this isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me 
> and I quite often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.
> 
>   Thanks for any useful commentsI could consider before writing to Apple.
> 
>   Carol P
> 
> 
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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Steve]

Be a lot simpler to use a light detector app.
- Original Message - 
From: Cheryl Homiak
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi 
connected LED light bulbs


Oh, that would be so wonderful!


I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find 
it almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they 
should be on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what 
other people may have done!


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On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:


I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without 
turning said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home 
environment control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be 
included here!   ;-)

To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
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have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the 
rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM
  Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs


  Hi List,

  I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and 
whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, 
the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can 
then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs 
via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change 
the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think 
of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so 
on.

  The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge 
and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can 
get a bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and 
additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, 
but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 
household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.

  I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo 
line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which 
cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps 
ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be 
$19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can 
pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so 
paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am 
still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all 
bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part 
become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off 
all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may 
only be 2 or 3 years away).


  Regards,
  Sieghard



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Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Dan Beaver]

Actually it does work.  I use it all the time.

The trick to using the 2-finger double tap is to move the phone away from your 
head and wait several seconds before issuing the tap.

I did this under 6.+, 7.+ and now 8.1.2.

Dan Beaver 


From: Chris Nusbaum 
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS


To my knowledge, the two-finger double tap no longer works with iOS 8. Try 
taking the phone away from your ear so it automatically switches to 
speakerphone. Then you should be able to hear the End Call button being 
announced.

Chris Nusbaum

On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:26 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:


  Hi all,

  I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse for 
me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm trying to 
locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch doesn't always 
work.

  At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not connected 
to a headset.

  Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this isn't 
a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and I quite 
often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.

  Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.

  Carol P


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Re: Bose Sound Dock 10 and IOS 8.1

[Alan J Paganelli]

Suzanne, I’m not experiencing anything like that with my iPhone 5s or my iPad 
Air on my sound dock 10.  I should say though that I don’t use the 30 pin 
connector.  My wife bought the 2 hundred dollar Bluetooth reciever.


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From: Suzanne Wilson 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Bose Sound Dock 10 and IOS 8.1

Hello listers,

 

I have had a Bose Sound Dock 10 for a year and a half. I now use it with a 30 
pin to lightning connector adapter and it has worked fine. That is, until 
recently. All that has changed is that I have upgraded my iPhone 5S to IOS 8.1. 
I also can’t use my old 4S on the Sound Doc and my husband can’t use his iPhone 
6. When we try, the music cuts out immediately. This happens whether Voiceover 
is on or off. I seem to recall that there were one or two others on this list 
who own the Sound Dock 10. Have you encountered similar issues? Does this mean 
I have to lug it to the Bose store so they can send it in for repairs?

 

Suzanne

 

 

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Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my phone to itunes

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi, Jim 

Are you on a Mac or PC? Have you tried to highlight your iPhone and do a click 
to open the contextual menu for the phone by either hitting the application key 
on the PC or CDM-Shift-M on the Mac? HTH. 

Eileen 

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> Hi, 
> When I connect my phone to itunes 12, where do I find the place to sync eject 
> etc? 
> I can’t seem to find it when I am in the summary area of my phone. 
> Jen 
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Re: Fleksy update

[Wayne Merritt]

With the old Fleksy VO app, I was able to type with near perfection
very quickly, much faster than I have been able to do with predictive
typing. Granted, I'm still getting used to the predictive option. I
could type out a long text in leksy VO and then copy/paste it to a
text or iMessage. Having that ability to easily use anywhere you have
a text field in iOS would be awesome.

Wayne

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> With the advent of  integrated predictive typing in iOS 8, is there really
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> experience with the app. Does it do something that the feature in the
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>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>>
>> Fleksy has just brought out an update supposedly improving VoiceOver use
>> but it seems a calamity to me as any attempt to insert punctuation by
>> swiping to the right results in words or parts of words being deleted so
>> don't get your hopes up yet for the big fix we have been waiting for
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Re: Fleksy update

[Harry Bell]

I like Fleksy for its easier to see white on black keyboard, the way it reads 
out each word and the ability to use swipe gestures. And how forgiving it is of 
my typing errors! Harry

 

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> keyboard doesn't?
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Fleksy has just brought out an update supposedly improving VoiceOver use but 
>> it seems a calamity to me as any attempt to insert punctuation by swiping to 
>> the right results in words or parts of words being deleted so don't get your 
>> hopes up yet for the big fix we have been waiting for
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a couple of iPHone questions

[Michael Amaro]

Hello Listers,

On an iPhone 5s how do you turn off screen curtain?  On an Iphone 6,  How do 
you put another language in the roter?
Thanks
Michael
email/messenger
mikeam...@earthlink.net
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"What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war, not the peace of 
the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace the 
kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living and the kind that enables 
men and nations to grow and to hope and build a better life for their children 
not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women not merely peace 
in our time but peace in all time."

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Re: a couple of iPHone questions

[John Panarese]

   A triple tap with three fingers will turn off or on screen curtain.  You add 
languages to the rotor in VoiceOver settings under Languages and Dialects.


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> On Dec 19, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Michael Amaro  wrote:
> 
> Hello Listers,
>  
> On an iPhone 5s how do you turn off screen curtain?  On an Iphone 6,  How do 
> you put another language in the roter?
> Thanks
> Michael
> email/messenger
> mikeam...@earthlink.net
> Skype ID
> mikeameli
> JFK
> "What kind of peace do I mean and what kind of a peace do we seek? Not a Pax 
> Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war, not the peace of 
> the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace the 
> kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living and the kind that enables 
> men and nations to grow and to hope and build a better life for their 
> children not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women not 
> merely peace in our time but peace in all time."
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Re: Kuckucksuhr

[Alan J Paganelli]

I couldn’t get it to coo-coo on the hour or the half hour I suspect I have to 
many sound events.


Regards,
Alan
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available upon request. Thanks for listening!


From: Jan Kleinhans 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

Hi

A question on this one: does it strike the real hour on the hour, like 12 for 
12 oclock, or only once or twice, like some of the other apps do?

Regards

Jan Kleinhans
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan J Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

  I am something of a chime clock fan so this is welcome.  Thanks for sharing 
it.


  Regards,
  Alan
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  The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
  available upon request. Thanks for listening!


  From: Jennie Facer 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

  No mine will go off every half hour now.

  Jenn

  TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!

  On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


According to the app description it works when the phone ios locked, but 
somebody posted that it only goes off every hour that way.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr

 

It has great sound, but, Kuckucksuhr, only works in the foreground. 

Richard

 

 

  Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

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  Sent from my iPhone 5S

   


On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  That is the german word for a cuckoo clock. If you check the app 
description this becomes pretty clear:

  A must-have for every fan of the black forest of Germany!

  Features:
  -Cuckoo sings every hour and half an hour
  -realistic clockwork with weights and chains
  -clock changes design during daytime

  The app is free, but it hasn't been updated in just over 2 years now.


  Regards,
  Sieghard

  Regards,
  Sieghard

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jennie Facer
  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Kuckucksuhr

  Has anyone used this app? What are you supposed to do with it? It has a 
text field that comes up, but what are you supposed to do with it?

  Thank you so much!

  Jenn

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Re: KNFB Reader

[Charles Rivard]

They expect employees to be loyal, yet, when the opportunity comes along, they 
outsource.  They expect loyalty, yet won't hesitate to fire someone, with no 
prior warning,  within a month of the Christmas season.  I've seen it happen 
all too often.  Their excuse??  "It's a business decision."

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 PM
  Subject: RE: KNFB Reader


  No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

   

  Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house which 
is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current job in 
March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a lot of 
hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, even 
brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things are 
wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for jobs, 
or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants to 
toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what I 
can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

   

  Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

   

  Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a 
part of my nature.  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

   

  OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very 
hard for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

  Richard

   

 

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Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


  On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone




On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

   

  Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he 
mentioned 

  taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

  - Original Message - 

  From: "Lori Dent" 

  To: 

  Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

  Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

   

   

  Hi Chris,

   

  I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

  then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

  purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

   

  Lori and the Gipper

   

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  If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
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Re: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Charles Rivard]

Is your cousin living in Florence by choice, if you catch my drift?  (Aren't I 
rotten?)

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:05 PM
  Subject: RE: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


  I agree, only dropout I have had was on the way from Scottsdale to Laughlin 
in the mountains for about 30 minutes, in Laughlin or Las Vegas even in Reno my 
Verizon phones have had great connections.  

  I don’t travel that far these days but even in Florence, Arizona where my 
cousin lives I have great service.  Better than her Droid phone has she cuts 
out a lot, I never seem to have that problem and she is on Verizon also.  

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

   

  I've always gotten good reliable service, and they have the best coverage in 
this area.  No dropped calls or dropping of signals.  Plus, I did not have the 
money to buy a phone outright, so paying so much a month was the way for me to 
go.  I think that I get what I pay for.


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From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:02 AM

Subject: RE: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month with 2 Gig of data is also a rip-off. You can get the same from 
most MVNO’s for half that. Of course you would have to bring your own unlocked 
phone to the table, but consider saving $40 a months over a 24 months contract 
period, that is $960. Now add the at least $200 you paid if you bought the 
newest iPhone at the time in its least expensive configuration (you may have 
paid $299 or $399 and you end up paying $1,160, $1,260 or $1,360 where you 
could have bought your phone outright for $750, $850 or $950 depnding on the 
model.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most 
of what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.


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  - Original Message - 

  From: Joseph Hudson 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM

  Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

   

  And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind 
me asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

  Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is 
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  On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as 
good technical assistance when I've needed it.


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  From: Joseph Hudson 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

  Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

   

  Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who 
you have?

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Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my phone to itunes

[Jen Colley]

I am using windows.  
Jen  

From: Jessica D 
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my 
phone to itunes

Document are you on a Mac or Windows computer? If you are on a Mac, go into the 
summary area, stop interacting, and it will be a bulb the scroll area.

Sent from my iPhone

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  Hi,  
  When I connect my phone to itunes 12, where do I find the place to sync eject 
etc?  
  I can’t seem to find it when I am in the summary area of my phone.  
  Jen  
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Finding accessible ring tone downloading programs

[Terri S]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, is there a free, accessible, ring tone program, when I can 
download ring tones to my phone?
I found one a while back, but I could not figure out how to get the ring tones 
to show up to where I could actually use them. So I got rid of the programI 
don't remember the name of it now.

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I am very interested.

Thank you so much!

Terri

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Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am on verizon with an iPhone 5s and get 3 gb of data a month and don’t use 
even half of that.  I use wifi here at home.

Matthew


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>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Charles Rivard > > wrote:
>> 
>> $90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most 
>> of what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.
>> 
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>> you! really! are! finished!
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Joseph Hudson 
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
>>> 
>>> And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
>>> asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
>>> next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.
>>> 
>>> Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is 
>>> the best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and 
>>> making new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is 
>>> where blind and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in 
>>> communicate. If you were interested please subscribe here.
>>> http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org 
>>>  or 
>>> send a blank message to
>>> chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent 
>>>  from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
 technical assistance when I've needed it.
 
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 finished, you! really! are! finished!
> - Original Message - 
> From: Joseph Hudson 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
> 
> Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you 
> have?
> 
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> On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard  > wrote:
> 
>> Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot pole!!  I 
>> wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of charge.
>> 
>> ---
>> Be positive!  When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're 
>> finished, you! really! are! finished!
>> - Original Message - From: "Kliph" > >
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus
>> 
>> 
>> AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I ordered my 
>> phone the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  When it 
>> was time for my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order had 
>> been canceled for 1 of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing 
>> address, debit card funds not available, and the most BS 1 was item no 
>> longer available. So I calmly called customer care, they told me to go 
>> in to the store and they could fix this issue and get my phone on 
>> schedule.  The store proceeded to tell me it wasn’t there

How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS

[TaraPrakash]

Dear all
I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with the 
latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that

Thanks in anticipation

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Sonos setup

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Hi,

Thanks to Sieghard, Neal and many others on this list, I've taken the plunge 
with Sonos.

So far, I totally love the sound. I haven't had such great access to music and 
quality of music reproduction for years.

I bought 4 Play3 speakers to setup as 2 stereo pairs in our 2 most frequently 
used rooms.

I called Sonos help twice, both in anticipation of setting up the system. With 
this background, I was able to set up the system without problem in about 30 
minutes.

The help I got from the Sonos rep by phone proved most useful to me. Maybe 
there's other ways to get the info, but it's the only install guidance I 
received.

The first bit of information I got was how to power on the speaker. The Sonos 
app refers the user to a diagram that wasn't described. Looking at the speaker 
from the front grill, with the speaker placed horizontally, there are two 
buttons on the top of the unit. The first from the front is a rectangular, 
rocker-style button. This is the Volume Up and Down. Depressing this rocker on 
the front edge is Volume Down; depressing this button on the back edge is 
Volume Up. Behind this rectangular button is a square button which serves as 
Play / Pause, or sometimes known as Mute. To Power on a unit, simultaneously 
depress Volume Up button and the Mute button, then release.

The second bit of useful information I got was the procedure for setting up 4 
new speakers. Although Sonos operating system is now capable of wireless setup, 
the rep suggested he had no way of knowing if all the units I received were 
wireless capable out of the box. He suggested I use a temporary wired setup. 
This worked like a charm. I Ethernet connected from the router to the first of 
my Sonos speakers and followed the setup on the app. It then asked me to set up 
the next. The 2nd through 4th speakers setup wirelessly, with each unit 
positioned where it will live. Once I was done building my system, the app 
completed a software update of all the units, thus ensuring that any future 
setup could be done entirely by wireless. I was then able to disconnect the 
temporary wired unit and position it where it now lives, all units being 
entirely wireless.

Several steps in individual unit setup referred to green light or white light 
or blinking light indicators on the speaker, but each of these was associated 
with spoken guidance of waiting "a minute or so" or "a few seconds." I couldn't 
tell the light status at any of these steps, but following the time guidance, I 
encountered no problems.

After that, just  some trial and error with the app to get music playing, and 
that was all it took!

Best, Keith






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Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS

[christopher hallsworth]

1. Open the message.
2. Double tap reply button.
3. Double tap forward.
Alternatively:
1. Select the message in say the inbox.
2. Do a one finger flick up to more.
3. Double tap reply.
4. Double tap forward.
Note
If you do not see more make sure the rotor is set to actions.
> On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:03, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Dear all
> I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with 
> the latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that
> 
> Thanks in anticipation
> 
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Re: Fleksy update

[christopher hallsworth]

Personally, no. I can even use the predictive keyboard to help me complete a 
word. I just type the first few letters and it's often very good at completing 
the word for me.
> On 17 Dec 2014, at 14:47, Chris Nusbaum  wrote:
> 
> With the advent of  integrated predictive typing in iOS 8, is there really 
> any use for Fleksy? I'm really curious about this, since I don't have much 
> experience with the app. Does it do something that the feature in the 
> keyboard doesn't?
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
>> 
>> Fleksy has just brought out an update supposedly improving VoiceOver use but 
>> it seems a calamity to me as any attempt to insert punctuation by swiping to 
>> the right results in words or parts of words being deleted so don't get your 
>> hopes up yet for the big fix we have been waiting for
>> 
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Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Charles Rivard]

The reason that my Verizon is as high as I quoted is because I also have my 
home phone through them.  I'm not one of these people who have their cell phone 
as their only phone.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: matthew dyer 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


  Hi,


  I am on verizon with an iPhone 5s and get 3 gb of data a month and don’t use 
even half of that.  I use wifi here at home.


  Matthew




On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Kliph  wrote:


I am on AT&T, I pay $145.00 bucks a month for 3 phones, and I get 15GB of 
data.


Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV?  New user and want quick 
efficient answers?  Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute?  
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  On Dec 18, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:


  $90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because 
most of what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.

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finished, you! really! are! finished!
- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Hudson
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind 
me asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:


  Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as 
good technical assistance when I've needed it.

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- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Hudson
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder 
who you have?

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On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Charles Rivard  
wrote:


  Due to past issues, I wouldn't touch A T and T with a 10-foot 
pole!!  I wouldn't use them if the service, or lack thereof, were free of 
charge.

  ---
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you're finished, you! really! are! finished!
  - Original Message - From: "Kliph" 

  To: 
  Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus


  AT&T has really dropped the ball on this iPhone release.  I 
ordered my phone the day of launch, since they didn’t have any in a store.  
When it was time for my phone to ship, they sent me an email saying my order 
had been canceled for 1 of the following reasons.  Incorrect billing address, 
debit card funds not available, and the most BS 1 was item no longer available. 
So I calmly called customer care, they told me to go in to the store and they 
could fix this issue and get my phone on schedule.  The store proceeded to tell 
me it wasn’t there fault.  Needless to say I lost my temper, told them to fix 
it or I was going across the street to the other T.  Long story short, customer 
care fix the issue, I g

RE: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Neal Ewers]

I also find that putting a little space between my fingers helps as well.

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

Actually it does work.  I use it all the time.

 

The trick to using the 2-finger double tap is to move the phone away from your 
head and wait several seconds before issuing the tap.

 

I did this under 6.+, 7.+ and now 8.1.2.

 

Dan Beaver 

 

From: Chris Nusbaum   

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:36 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

 

To my knowledge, the two-finger double tap no longer works with iOS 8. Try 
taking the phone away from your ear so it automatically switches to 
speakerphone. Then you should be able to hear the End Call button being 
announced.

Chris Nusbaum


On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:26 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:

Hi all,

 

I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse for 
me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm trying to 
locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch doesn't always 
work.

 

At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not connected 
to a headset.

 

Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this isn't 
a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and I quite 
often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.

 

Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.

 

Carol P

 

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Anyone else having problems commenting on posts or photos in the native facebook app?

[Jen Colley]

Hi,  
I have an iPhone 5c, voice over, and I’m using the native facebook app.  
All of a sudden, when I go into a facebook post and go through the comments the 
text box doesn’t appear for me to comment.  
The only way I can comment is I doble tap on comment.  
Wondering if anyone else is having this trouble and if so, is there a fix?  
Jen  

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RE: KNFB Reader

[Rose Combs]

Yeah, it is a moment when you start to wonder about your competence and 
somewhat regret loyalty which seems to count for next to nothing these days.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

They expect employees to be loyal, yet, when the opportunity comes along, they 
outsource.  They expect loyalty, yet won't hesitate to fire someone, with no 
prior warning,  within a month of the Christmas season.  I've seen it happen 
all too often.  Their excuse??  "It's a business decision."


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 PM

Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

 

Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house which 
is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current job in 
March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a lot of 
hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, even 
brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things are 
wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for jobs, 
or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants to 
toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what I 
can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

 

Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

 

Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a part 
of my nature.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 

start?

 

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RE: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Rose Combs]

Yes, she is outside Florence in more than 2 acres of land, her husband’s choice 
I believe but she likes it now.  No nothing to do with the prison there, 
although I do have a cousin who works for ICE.  

 

 

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Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Is your cousin living in Florence by choice, if you catch my drift?  (Aren't I 
rotten?)


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- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:05 PM

Subject: RE: Verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

I agree, only dropout I have had was on the way from Scottsdale to Laughlin in 
the mountains for about 30 minutes, in Laughlin or Las Vegas even in Reno my 
Verizon phones have had great connections.  

I don’t travel that far these days but even in Florence, Arizona where my 
cousin lives I have great service.  Better than her Droid phone has she cuts 
out a lot, I never seem to have that problem and she is on Verizon also.  

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

I've always gotten good reliable service, and they have the best coverage in 
this area.  No dropped calls or dropping of signals.  Plus, I did not have the 
money to buy a phone outright, so paying so much a month was the way for me to 
go.  I think that I get what I pay for.


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- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:02 AM

Subject: RE: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month with 2 Gig of data is also a rip-off. You can get the same from 
most MVNO’s for half that. Of course you would have to bring your own unlocked 
phone to the table, but consider saving $40 a months over a 24 months contract 
period, that is $960. Now add the at least $200 you paid if you bought the 
newest iPhone at the time in its least expensive configuration (you may have 
paid $299 or $399 and you end up paying $1,160, $1,260 or $1,360 where you 
could have bought your phone outright for $750, $850 or $950 depnding on the 
model.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: verizon plan - Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

$90 a month for 1 phone. 2 gigs of data per month, which is OK because most of 
what I do can be done through my home WiFi router.


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From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:21 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

And what are you perm paying for your Verizon service if you don't mind me 
asking? Because my and my brother are paying for two phones for $212 on the 
next plan and are having a wonderful Exxon service with AT&T.

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and deaf individuals can get together and socialize in communicate. If you were 
interested please subscribe here. 

http://list.ntxability.org/mailman/listinfo/chat_list.ntxability.org or send a 
blank message to

chat-request@list.ntxability.orgSent from my iPhone


On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Charles Rivard  wrote:

Verizon, all the way.  I've had the best customer service as well as good 
technical assistance when I've needed it.


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From: Joseph Hudson   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

 

Hi, you feel about them as to how I feel about sprint so I wonder who you have?

Do you have a problem navigating social media? Do you find that email is the 
best way to communicate, are you interested in meeting new people and making 
new friends? Then we have created a group for you.this group, is where blind 
and

OCR app for small documents such as bills and letters?

[trahern culver]

hi all, i have an iphone6 with the latest version of ios8. please can any 
one recommend an OCR app that will scan small documents such as letters and 
bills and reed them back to me? 


your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trey.

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RE: KNFB Reader

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

What’s this got to do with KNFB reader?

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

They expect employees to be loyal, yet, when the opportunity comes along, they 
outsource.  They expect loyalty, yet won't hesitate to fire someone, with no 
prior warning,  within a month of the Christmas season.  I've seen it happen 
all too often.  Their excuse??  "It's a business decision."


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- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 PM

Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

 

Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house which 
is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current job in 
March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a lot of 
hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, even 
brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things are 
wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for jobs, 
or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants to 
toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what I 
can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

 

Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

 

Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a part 
of my nature.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" mailto:loriand...@ohiohills.com> >

To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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RE: KNFB Reader

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

What’s this got to do with KNFB reader?

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rose Combs
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

Yeah, it is a moment when you start to wonder about your competence and 
somewhat regret loyalty which seems to count for next to nothing these days.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

They expect employees to be loyal, yet, when the opportunity comes along, they 
outsource.  They expect loyalty, yet won't hesitate to fire someone, with no 
prior warning,  within a month of the Christmas season.  I've seen it happen 
all too often.  Their excuse??  "It's a business decision."


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- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 PM

Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

 

Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house which 
is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current job in 
March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a lot of 
hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, even 
brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things are 
wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for jobs, 
or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants to 
toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what I 
can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

 

Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

 

Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a part 
of my nature.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very hard 
for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

 

Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.

Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

Sent from my iPhone 5S

 


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli  
wrote:

I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" mailto:loriand...@ohiohills.com> >

To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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KNFB reader on IPhone 6

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Just purchased, downloaded and installed NFB reader and wondered if there's
any tutorials besides what comes in the program that can review while trying
to learn how to use it?

Thanks.

 

 

 

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Re: Anyone else having problems commenting on posts or photos in the native facebook app?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi, now I am having the same problem. But double tapping on the comment button 
does allow there to be a text field after all the comments. And that's the only 
way to get around it.
> On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Jen Colley  wrote:
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> Hi, 
> I have an iPhone 5c, voice over, and I’m using the native facebook app. 
> All of a sudden, when I go into a facebook post and go through the comments 
> the text box doesn’t appear for me to comment. 
> The only way I can comment is I doble tap on comment. 
> Wondering if anyone else is having this trouble and if so, is there a fix? 
> Jen 
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Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS

[Joseph Hudson]

Hi, these are instructions for email not for text messages what's it clearly 
states in subject line.
> On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:05 PM, christopher hallsworth  
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> 
> 1. Open the message.
> 2. Double tap reply button.
> 3. Double tap forward.
> Alternatively:
> 1. Select the message in say the inbox.
> 2. Do a one finger flick up to more.
> 3. Double tap reply.
> 4. Double tap forward.
> Note
> If you do not see more make sure the rotor is set to actions.
>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:03, TaraPrakash  wrote:
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>> Dear all
>> I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with 
>> the latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that
>> 
>> Thanks in anticipation
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS

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Hello, here is the proper instructions for forwarding text messages. Getting a 
persons window that you want to forward from a, then once in the person's 
window find the message that you want forward. Then swipe down with one finger, 
tell an option called more. Double tap on that then tap and absences forward, 
Then typing the to field the first couple letters of the persons name, or start 
typing your phone number. Then work your way down to the body in find the send 
button. I hope this helps.
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> Dear all
> I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with 
> the latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that
> 
> Thanks in anticipation
> 
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Finding subject lines [was "Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

This brings me to another question. I've always felt that with all of 
the different email client and screen reader options out there, you 
shouldn't rely on someone to always check the subject line. For example, 
if I'm using the stock Mail app on the iPhone, and I hit the previous or 
next buttons, I don't hear the subject line of the next message read to 
me automatically like I do when I delete a message. If I go flicking 
left or right or exploring on the screen, I can't seem to find the 
subject line. Therefore, my question is this, what am I doing wrong and 
why can't I find the subject line when I'm looking at a message in the 
iPhone Mail app?


On 12/19/2014 07:05 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Hi, these are instructions for email not for text messages what's it clearly 
states in subject line.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:05 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

1. Open the message.
2. Double tap reply button.
3. Double tap forward.
Alternatively:
1. Select the message in say the inbox.
2. Do a one finger flick up to more.
3. Double tap reply.
4. Double tap forward.
Note
If you do not see more make sure the rotor is set to actions.

On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:03, TaraPrakash  wrote:

Dear all
I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with the 
latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that

Thanks in anticipation

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: OCR app for small documents such as bills and letters?

[Charles Rivard]

The KNFB reader is my recommendation.

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  Subject: OCR app for small documents such as bills and letters?


  hi all, i have an iphone6 with the latest version of ios8. please can any one 
recommend an OCR app that will scan small documents such as letters and bills 
and reed them back to me? 




  your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trey.


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Re: KNFB Reader

[Charles Rivard]

Nothing.  I, without thinking, voiced my opinion on the message I replied to.  
Sorry.

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  Subject: RE: KNFB Reader


  Hi,

   

  What’s this got to do with KNFB reader?

   

  Ron & Danvers

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
  Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:17 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

   

  They expect employees to be loyal, yet, when the opportunity comes along, 
they outsource.  They expect loyalty, yet won't hesitate to fire someone, with 
no prior warning,  within a month of the Christmas season.  I've seen it happen 
all too often.  Their excuse??  "It's a business decision."


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From: Rose Combs 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:00 PM

Subject: RE: KNFB Reader

 

No, it does not,  tried the other day when a listen link as provided but I 
could not figure out what sounds I should have typed in.  People should be shot 
for these things, truly an accessibility problem and I hate waiting until 
someone visits who can figure them out for me.  Have Firefox but can’t get it 
‘s add-in to work for me either which is one reason I’d like to see them 
disappear off the face of the earth which won’t happen in my lifetime.  

 

Between websites that are not accessible, CAPCHAs and thing in my house 
which is old which refuse to work as expected, then the outsourcing my current 
job in March, I am ready to start pulling my hair out, and trust me, I have a 
lot of hair,.  In reality I hate pulling hair, hurts and I don’t like pain, 
even brushing tangled hair bothers me but I am still annoyed that more things 
are wrong here than right.  CAPTCHAs are a problem now that I am looking for 
jobs, or options to change a career I have had for 38 years.  Part of me wants 
to toss in the towel but another part keeps right on plugging away, doing what 
I can to not find myself on disability.  Anyone need a very used medical 
transcriptionist?  

 

Why was I so stupid as to remain loyal to the same organization for 38 plus 
years, no one does that any longer or so I read.  

 

Too late now, I did it and I would not undo that part of me, loyalty is a 
part of my nature.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

OCR programs are designed to recognize clear text. A captia is often very 
hard for someone with very good eyesight to read because they are intentionally 
unclear, obscured text. So I wouldn't expect KNFB Reader or any OCR app to be 
able to read them.

Richard

 

   

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  Sent from my iPhone 5S

   


On Dec 18, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
 wrote:

  I tried taking a picture of a capture on a computer screen. No luck.

  Sent from my iPhone



  On Dec 18, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Robert Doc Wright 
 wrote:

 

Raul gave me reason to consider purchasing the KNFB reader when he 
mentioned 

taking a picture of a computer screen and getting useful information 
back.

- Original Message - 

From: "Lori Dent" 

To: 

Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: KNFB Reader

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I have Prizmo myself and it does a good job in recconizing   documents 
and

then reading them. But I have also thought   about and considering on

purchasing the knfb reader myself. But haven't done it yet . Take care.

 

Lori and the Gipper

 

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Re: KNFB reader on IPhone 6

[Charles Rivard]

Not necessarily a tutorial, but there's a podcast at

www.applevis.com

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  Subject: KNFB reader on IPhone 6


  Just purchased, downloaded and installed NFB reader and wondered if there’s 
any tutorials besides what comes in the program that can review while trying to 
learn how to use it?

  Thanks.

   

   

   


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Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

[Christopher Chaltain]

It works for me when hanging up a call, but I find it very hit or miss 
when answering a call.


On 12/19/2014 02:12 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Actually it does work.  I use it all the time.
The trick to using the 2-finger double tap is to move the phone away
from your head and wait several seconds before issuing the tap.
I did this under 6.+, 7.+ and now 8.1.2.
Dan Beaver

*From:* Chris Nusbaum 
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*Subject:* Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

To my knowledge, the two-finger double tap no longer works with iOS 8.
Try taking the phone away from your ear so it automatically switches to
speakerphone. Then you should be able to hear the End Call button being
announced.

Chris Nusbaum

On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:26 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 mailto:carol.pearso...@googlemail.com>> wrote:


Hi all,
I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about
the IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have
got worse for me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear
the button I'm trying to locate at the end of a call and even pressing
the on/off switch doesn't always work.
At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of
the phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never
mind;  but I really wish there was an easier way to end calls
efficiently when not connected to a headset.
Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any
workable solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility
Team?  Maybe this isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it
spoils the ship for me and I quite often see postings from people who
are having this difficulty.
Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.
Carol P

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Re: ENDING PHONECALLS

[David Chittenden]

YES, it is always necessary to put a little bit of space between one's fingers. 
Otherwise, iOS is only able to detect one finger.

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> On 20 Dec 2014, at 08:26, Neal Ewers  wrote:
> 
> I also find that putting a little space between my fingers helps as well.
>  
> Neal
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dan Beaver
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS
>  
> Actually it does work.  I use it all the time.
>  
> The trick to using the 2-finger double tap is to move the phone away from 
> your head and wait several seconds before issuing the tap.
>  
> I did this under 6.+, 7.+ and now 8.1.2.
>  
> Dan Beaver 
>  
> From: Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: ENDING PHONECALLS
>  
> To my knowledge, the two-finger double tap no longer works with iOS 8. Try 
> taking the phone away from your ear so it automatically switches to 
> speakerphone. Then you should be able to hear the End Call button being 
> announced.
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
> On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:26 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I think it's time I said clearly that I'm really still not happy about the 
> IPhone's method(s) of ending phonecalls.  I suppose this may have got worse 
> for me as Audio Ducking is on, so now I really can't hear the button I'm 
> trying to locate at the end of a call and even pressing the on/off switch 
> doesn't always work.
>  
> At one stage the buttons, I think, were better placed at the bottom of the 
> phone, maybe nearer the corners.  If I am wrong here then, never mind;  but I 
> really wish there was an easier way to end calls efficiently when not 
> connected to a headset.
>  
> Does anyone else feel this way and, if so, do you think there's any workable 
> solution that we could put forward to the Accessibility Team?  Maybe this 
> isn't a big deal for anyone, but I still think it spoils the ship for me and 
> I quite often see postings from people who are having this difficulty.
>  
> Thanks for any useful comments I could colnsider before writing to Apple.
>  
> Carol P
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RE: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my phone to itunes

[Thom Spittle]

Tosync,gotothefilemenuwithaltFthendownarrowtodevicesandsyncshouldbethefirstone.Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my 
phone to itunes

 

I am using windows.  

Jen  

 

From: Jessica D   

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:51 PM

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Subject: Re: Where do I find the place to sync eject etc when I connect my 
phone to itunes

 

Document are you on a Mac or Windows computer? If you are on a Mac, go into the 
summary area, stop interacting, and it will be a bulb the scroll area.

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi,  

When I connect my phone to itunes 12, where do I find the place to sync eject 
etc?  

I can’t seem to find it when I am in the summary area of my phone.  

Jen  

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RE: [Bulk] Re: KNFB reader on IPhone 6

[Don Risavy, Jr.]

Thanks much for that info and also can the volume of the knfb reader voice be 
turned down or changed as seems to be sounding distorted.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Charles Rivard
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: KNFB reader on IPhone 6

 

Not necessarily a tutorial, but there's a podcast at

 

www.applevis.com


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Subject: KNFB reader on IPhone 6

 

Just purchased, downloaded and installed NFB reader and wondered if there’s any 
tutorials besides what comes in the program that can review while trying to 
learn how to use it?

Thanks.

 

 

 

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Re: Kuckucksuhr

[Richard Turner]

Did you lock your phone or use the ap switcher to use a different app?
My experience is it has to be running and in the foreground, which to me, makes 
it useless.
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> On Dec 19, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Alan J Paganelli  
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> I couldn’t get it to coo-coo on the hour or the half hour I suspect I have to 
> many sound events.
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get
> a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request. Thanks for listening!
>  
> From: Jan Kleinhans
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr
>  
> Hi
>  
> A question on this one: does it strike the real hour on the hour, like 12 for 
> 12 oclock, or only once or twice, like some of the other apps do?
>  
> Regards
>  
> Jan Kleinhans
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan J Paganelli
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr
>  
> I am something of a chime clock fan so this is welcome.  Thanks for sharing 
> it.
>  
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your parents? Act now! Move out. Get
> a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
> Please click on:
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. I often add files so check back regularly!
> The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still
> available upon request. Thanks for listening!
>  
> From: Jennie Facer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr
>  
> No mine will go off every half hour now.
>  
> Jenn
> 
> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> According to the app description it works when the phone ios locked, but 
>> somebody posted that it only goes off every hour that way.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Kuckucksuhr
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> It has great sound, but, Kuckucksuhr, only works in the foreground.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.
>> 
>> Jane Wagner, from In Search of Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5S
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> That is the german word for a cuckoo clock. If you check the app description 
>> this becomes pretty clear:
>> 
>> A must-have for every fan of the black forest of Germany!
>> 
>> Features:
>> -Cuckoo sings every hour and half anhour
>> -realistic clockwork with weights and chains
>> -clock changes design during daytime
>> 
>> The app is free, but it hasn't been updated in just over 2 years now.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Jennie Facer
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 12:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Kuckucksuhr
>> 
>> Has anyone used this app? What are you supposed to do with it? It has a text 
>> field that comes up, but what are you supposed to do with it?
>> 
>> Thank you so much!
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD!
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Re: verizon plan was Re: a couple loose ends with my iPhone 6 plus

[Sarah Clark]

I just got a new plan with Verizon called their save plan, which is $60 a month 
for 2 GB or $50 for 1 GB.
I had been paying $90 before for 2 GB, but called and switched over to this 
plan when my other one ended.
The only catch is you can't use hot spots, but if you only have an iPhone that 
doesn't matter.

Sarah

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RE: Help!

[Barbara Sheinbein]

This is not a braille manual, but if you go to this link, it does give the 
basics.  I am also new to the I phone 5 and have been using this web site.
http://www.voiceover-easy.net/


All the best.

Barbara



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Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:01 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Help!
Importance: High

Hi All,

I am Very new practicing on iPhone 5.

Does anyone have English manual in Braille to lend me for a very short time? 
Please!

I am totaly lost, a manual can help and guide me start.

Kindly write to me directly and privatly, for my postal address.

Many thanks.

Regards.


Liza Shani

1. Open the contact and double tap edit.
2. Double tap ringtone and select the ringtone. Double tap back.
3. Double tap done, then double tap back.




> On 16 Dec 2014, at 06:36, Lori Dent  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I downloaded a country ring tone to my iPhone 5, and I wanted to at it to my 
> contacts so if I got a call the country ring tone would play  until I 
> answered the phone.But  my country ring tone is in my settings under sounds.
>  
> Anyhow, how do I get this country ring tone  added to my contacts in my phone 
>  so that when I get a call that country ring tone will play until I answer my 
> phone?
>  
> Also, do I need to do this through itunes and if so, how do I accomplish 
> this? Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
>  
> Lori and the Gipper
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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

 

Apart from the power-saving benefits, another advantage of LED light bulbs is 
their long life. A good LED bulb will last about 15 to 20 years with normal use 
of a few hours a day.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Hi,

It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, Ben, I know jailbreaking does has a few interesting perks, but I assume 
Apple will give developers access to SIRI sooner or later and it's probably 
going to be sooner rather than later. I heard a demo when SIRI first came out 
where the guy who did the demo had found a way to control his WiFi thermostat 
with SIRI.

Apart from a focus on health related stuff, I think there will be a lot of new 
stuff in the area of home automation. I heard that some developers found code 
somewhere which indicates Apple may design a new Apple TV to be not just for TV 
and other media, but also the hub for everything related to home automation. I 
think this would make total sense since your Apple TV sits there all the time, 
it's already connected to your home network and could easily pass along all 
sorts of commands and requests.


Regards,
Sieghard

a guy had 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hi Sieghard,

I have the Wemo switch which lets me turn power outlets on / off
remotely; as far as I'm aware all the Wemo devices use the same app
for control & in my experience the app is fully accessible. With a
little bit of jailbreak magic I can now turn things on and off around
the house with my voice. I know jailbreaking's not really your thing
but sometimes it's nice to show what can be done.

As a side note, solutions for controling wemo devices outside of iOS
aren't overly great at the moment but I did find this
http://moderntoil.com/?p=839 shell script which works for me. It can
be made to run under Windows with the help of sigwin.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 12/18/14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and
> whether the app is fully accessible. For those who don't know what this is,
> the product consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which
> can
> then talk to up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light
> bulbs
> via the free app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change
> the colour of the light from regular warm white to any colour you can think
> of and create schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so
> on.
>
>
>
> The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge
> and 3 light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can
> get a bridge with 2 of the so-called "Lux" light bulbs for $99.99 and
> additional bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed,
> but cannot change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19
> household bulbs or BR30 floodlights.
>
>
>
> I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo
> line of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which
> cannot change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps
> ones. I really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be
> $19.99 or so and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can
> pick up a good quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so
> paying a $20 premium just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am
> still wondering about the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all
> bulbs in the house are like this light detectors would for the most part
> become a thing of the past as eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn
> off
> all lights (still wishful thinking at this time, but I also think this may
> only be 2 or 3 years away).
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
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RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Steve,

 

That’s a matter of opinion and also very much depends on the size of your 
dwelling. If you live in a 1 or 2 bedroom apartment I agree that it’s not hard 
to figure out what lights are on with a light detector or even by checking the 
switch positions. If you have a 2 or 3 story house with 4 or 5 bedrooms, 
several bathrooms, a utility room, family room, living room, kitchen and so on 
it’s a different matter. You’d be running all over the place, up and down the 
stairs  where you could just pull up your app and turn off all lights at once. 
Then there is of course the advantage of being able to set schedules where 
maybe a few lights come on here and there if you are not home to give the 
impression somebody is home.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Be a lot simpler to use a light detector app.

- Original Message - 

From: Cheryl Homiak   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 12:29 AM

Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Oh, that would be so wonderful! 

 

I have lights all over my apartment that are the kind where they are on/off 
when one switch is up and another switch elsewhere is down, etc. and I find it 
almost impossible to keep track of this and turn on lights when they should be 
on and turn them off when they should be off and figure out what other people 
may have done!

 

-- 

Cheryl

 

 

Go beyond the Christmas story this year;

meet Immanuel (God with us),

Jesus, the crucified Savior,

Christ, the risen LORD!!!

 

 

 

 

 

On Dec 18, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@charter.net> > wrote:

 

I cannot tell you all enough times how frustrating it has been when sighted 
company goes around turning on lights in my home and then leave without turning 
said lighting off.  I, for one, am looking forward to this home environment 
control and will gladly pay a premium for such light bulbs.

 

But actually, I'm replying to this message so my signature tag can be included 
here!   ;-) 


To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I have 
not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the rest. But 
I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has come round -- 
apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, if anything 
belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a kind, forgiving, 
charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the 
year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts 
freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were 
fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on 
other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold 
or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has done me good, and will do me 
good; and I say, God bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens

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From: Sieghard Weitzel   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 1:46 AM

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colou

RE: Finding accessible ring tone downloading programs

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Terri,

There is only one program which allows you to put ringtones on an iPhone and 
that is iTunes. You can download iPhone compatible ringtones from all sorts of 
websites or make them yourself, but when you want to get them to the phone you 
have to use iTunes.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Terri S
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Finding accessible ring tone downloading programs

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, is there a free, accessible, ring tone program, when I can 
download ring tones to my phone?
I found one a while back, but I could not figure out how to get the ring tones 
to show up to where I could actually use them. So I got rid of the programI 
don't remember the name of it now.

If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. I am very interested.

Thank you so much!

Terri

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Sonos setup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Keith,

 

Congratulations on your Sonos setup, glad  you like it as much as all of us 
Sonos users do. If you ever want to expand, you’ll find that adding a Sonos Sub 
to a set of Play 3 in stereo mode will make an amazing difference. And just to 
make this clear, my often rather enthusiastic endorsement of Sonos is not 
because I work for them *smile*.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 2:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos setup

 

Hi,

 

Thanks to Sieghard, Neal and many others on this list, I’ve taken the plunge 
with Sonos.

 

So far, I totally love the sound. I haven’t had such great access to music and 
quality of music reproduction for years.

 

I bought 4 Play3 speakers to setup as 2 stereo pairs in our 2 most frequently 
used rooms.

 

I called Sonos help twice, both in anticipation of setting up the system. With 
this background, I was able to set up the system without problem in about 30 
minutes.

 

The help I got from the Sonos rep by phone proved most useful to me. Maybe 
there’s other ways to get the info, but it’s the only install guidance I 
received.

 

The first bit of information I got was how to power on the speaker. The Sonos 
app refers the user to a diagram that wasn’t described. Looking at the speaker 
from the front grill, with the speaker placed horizontally, there are two 
buttons on the top of the unit. The first from the front is a rectangular, 
rocker-style button. This is the Volume Up and Down. Depressing this rocker on 
the front edge is Volume Down; depressing this button on the back edge is 
Volume Up. Behind this rectangular button is a square button which serves as 
Play / Pause, or sometimes known as Mute. To Power on a unit, simultaneously 
depress Volume Up button and the Mute button, then release.

 

The second bit of useful information I got was the procedure for setting up 4 
new speakers. Although Sonos operating system is now capable of wireless setup, 
the rep suggested he had no way of knowing if all the units I received were 
wireless capable out of the box. He suggested I use a temporary wired setup. 
This worked like a charm. I Ethernet connected from the router to the first of 
my Sonos speakers and followed the setup on the app. It then asked me to set up 
the next. The 2nd through 4th speakers setup wirelessly, with each unit 
positioned where it will live. Once I was done building my system, the app 
completed a software update of all the units, thus ensuring that any future 
setup could be done entirely by wireless. I was then able to disconnect the 
temporary wired unit and position it where it now lives, all units being 
entirely wireless.

 

Several steps in individual unit setup referred to green light or white light 
or blinking light indicators on the speaker, but each of these was associated 
with spoken guidance of waiting “a minute or so” or “a few seconds.” I couldn’t 
tell the light status at any of these steps, but following the time guidance, I 
encountered no problems.

 

After that, just  some trial and error with the app to get music playing, and 
that was all it took!

 

Best, Keith

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Finding subject lines [was "Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS"]

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Christopher,

Voiceover doesn't say "Subject", but when I open a mail message it does read 
the subject and it also does that if I double tap Next to go to the next 
message. Usually after I tap next the subject is 2 swipes to the right, 
sometimes a few more.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 5:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Finding subject lines [was "Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest 
version of iOS"]

This brings me to another question. I've always felt that with all of 
the different email client and screen reader options out there, you 
shouldn't rely on someone to always check the subject line. For example, 
if I'm using the stock Mail app on the iPhone, and I hit the previous or 
next buttons, I don't hear the subject line of the next message read to 
me automatically like I do when I delete a message. If I go flicking 
left or right or exploring on the screen, I can't seem to find the 
subject line. Therefore, my question is this, what am I doing wrong and 
why can't I find the subject line when I'm looking at a message in the 
iPhone Mail app?

On 12/19/2014 07:05 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
> Hi, these are instructions for email not for text messages what's it clearly 
> states in subject line.
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:05 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 1. Open the message.
>> 2. Double tap reply button.
>> 3. Double tap forward.
>> Alternatively:
>> 1. Select the message in say the inbox.
>> 2. Do a one finger flick up to more.
>> 3. Double tap reply.
>> 4. Double tap forward.
>> Note
>> If you do not see more make sure the rotor is set to actions.
>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:03, TaraPrakash  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>> I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with 
>>> the latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that
>>>
>>> Thanks in anticipation
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED light bulbs

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes I’m aware of this they are a neat invention indeed.
Robin


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 1:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

Hi Robin,

 

Apart from the power-saving benefits, another advantage of LED light bulbs is 
their long life. A good LED bulb will last about 15 to 20 years with normal use 
of a few hours a day.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected 
LED light bulbs

 

Hi,

It would also be interesting if such systems could indicate when a bulb has 
died and needs replacing. Dead light bulbs are the bane of my existence (smile).

Robin

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:46 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Accessibility of app to control Philipps or Belkin WiFi connected LED 
light bulbs

 

Hi List,

 

I was wondering if anybody has Philipps Hue connected light bulbs and whether 
the app is fully accessible. For those who don’t know what this is, the product 
consists of a bridge which connects to your router and which can then talk to 
up to 50 light bulbs. You can then control said LED light bulbs via the free 
app and turn the lights on/off, set brightness level, change the colour of the 
light from regular warm white to any colour you can think of and create 
schedules which turn lights on or off at certain times and so on.

 

The product is pretty expensive at this point, a starter pack with bridge and 3 
light bulbs is $199.99, each additional light bulb is $59.99. You can get a 
bridge with 2 of the so-called “Lux” light bulbs for $99.99 and additional 
bulbs for $29.99. These less expensive bulbs can only be dimmed, but cannot 
change colour. There are a couple of styles like regular A19 household bulbs or 
BR30 floodlights.

 

I just saw that Belkin has released a competitive product under their Wemo line 
of home automation products. At this point they only have bulbs which cannot 
change colour and the pricing for those is the same as the Philipps ones. I 
really hope this drops in price to a point where bulbs would be $19.99 or so 
and maybe $29.99 for the ones which can change colour. You can pick up a good 
quality LED light bulb these days for around $8 or $9 so paying a $20 premium 
just so they can talk to the bridge is steep, but I am still wondering about 
the accessibility. If it comes to a point where all bulbs in the house are like 
this light detectors would for the most part become a thing of the past as 
eventually we would just tell SIRI to turn off all lights (still wishful 
thinking at this time, but I also think this may only be 2 or 3 years away).

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: How to forwArd text messages on latest version of iOS

[Christopher Hallsworth]

Ar I see. I was on my mac at the time and use the message content scroll 
area to read messages. VoiceOver does not announce the subject in this 
case. Unless there's another way I will stick to it.


On 20/12/2014 01:05, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Hi, these are instructions for email not for text messages what's it clearly 
states in subject line.

On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:05 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

1. Open the message.
2. Double tap reply button.
3. Double tap forward.
Alternatively:
1. Select the message in say the inbox.
2. Do a one finger flick up to more.
3. Double tap reply.
4. Double tap forward.
Note
If you do not see more make sure the rotor is set to actions.

On 19 Dec 2014, at 22:03, TaraPrakash  wrote:

Dear all
I have not been able to find a way to forward messages on my iPhone 5c with the 
latest iOS. Kindly guide me in doing that

Thanks in anticipation

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: OCR app for small documents such as bills and letters?

[Christopher Hallsworth]

I am thinking about getting the KNFB Reader myself because I heard it 
can amongst other things read computer screens at least as well as 
inaccessible electronic documents such as PDF.


On 19/12/2014 23:45, trahern culver wrote:



hi all, i have an iphone6 with the latest version of ios8. please can any
one recommend an OCR app that will scan small documents such as letters and
bills and reed them back to me?


your help with this question would be most welcome kind regards trey.



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