Want to be certain erase phone

[Traci Duncan]

Hi group,

Sheesh, a bit of a bumpy tech ride for me today.  I want to be certain I have 
erased my iPhone 5s completely.

I tried the easy route of reset & erase all data, but I kept getting 
restriction passcode errors.  So, I did a bit of a stupid move & put my phone 
in recovery mode to restore.  Once I saw how long that would take, I used find 
my iPhone to erase the device.  Effectively, doubling up methods & complicating 
things.

My phone successfully restored & updated, & acted like a lost device, which 
needed the owner’s Apple ID & password.  I went to iCloud & find my iPhone, 
then removed my iPhone 5s from my account.

>From what I understand, my device should be erased & ready for a new owner.  
>The only information it holds for sure is my guest wireless network details, 
>because I entered them in to see if someone could start the activation process.

What is your advice so I can be certain I can turn this phone into Verizon?  
Clean & free of personal data.

Thank you,
Traci

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Re: Flying Ruler it works

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Thanks for that.  I think I'll get it, because it's free today!

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Beaver 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works


  Hi,

  Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

  Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

  I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is 
going to be very good.

  Dan Beaver


  From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works


  How accurate do you think it is?

  Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Beaver 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Flying Ruler it works


Hi,

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

Just thought some of you might be interested.

Dan Beaver

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Re: Podcast Question

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Hi Gary, the naming of the files it entirely the decision of the podcaster.
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> On 26/09/2015, at 5:14 PM, Gary Petraccaro  wrote:
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> I'm finding some odd naming conventions with two of the podcasts I download 
> with iTunes.  Does the file name come courtesy of the site or does iTunes 
> name them?
> Thanks.
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Podcast Question

[Gary Petraccaro]

I'm finding some odd naming conventions with two of the podcasts I download 
with iTunes.  Does the file name come courtesy of the site or does iTunes name 
them?
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Re: Number of email messages

[Les Kriegler]

Mary, I did two backups. I did the iTunes and iCloud backups. But I did restore 
from the iCloud backup.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Les, what sort of backup did you use to restore your new phone? Or did you 
> set it up as a new device? I used an encrypted iTunes backup. That meant that 
> once I turned my phone on and got all the set up right, on my mail showed up. 
> I didn't have to enter any passwords or any good stuff like that. Thank God 
> for iTunes backup. Now if only my phone number would transfer over from 
> Verizon to T-Mobile, I would be a happy camper.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary and Richard,
>> 
>> When I first received my phone, I also got the no unread email messages. 
>> However, when I went into the mail app, I did find that I had to set up my 
>> Gmail account again. By this I mean, I had to enter my username and 
>> password. Once that happens, the email messages KMan and now I see the 
>> number of unread email messages when I look at the mail icon in the dock.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have 
>>> noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often 
>>> reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right 
>>> number. But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells 
>>> me I have X number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that 
>>> are unread,… but I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that 
>>> the messages are slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get 
>>> into subjects and start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've 
>>> even seen messages appear that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen 
>>> with iOS 8. That's my theory anyway. But that doesn't help with your 
>>> problem.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail 
 app icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages 
 or not?
 Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing 
 this.
 This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
 Thanks,
 Richard 
 
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Re: Problem entering the final step of a credit card verification in Apple Pay

[Les Kriegler]

Mary, like you, this is my first opportunity to use Apple Pay. When I went to 
the verification process and got to the final step, I entered the security code 
on my credit card. Everything went well from there. Everything was verified and 
the process was completed.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:36 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I just got a new iPhone 6s, which is the first one I have had that enabled me 
> to use Apple Pay. I have a credit card on file with iTunes, and it was 
> offered that I could enter this into Apple Pay, which I excepted into the 
> wallet. The final step of making this card available involves getting a code 
> that you then have to enter when you open the Wallet app and choose your 
> card. I chose to have the code emailed to me, as that seem to be the best way 
> since my phone was in between carriers so to speak. I got my code and 
> attempted to enter it. I know I entered it correctly. But it was rejected. I 
> tried again couple of minutes later, with the same result. Is anyone had 
> problems getting a card into the wallet on this final step?
> Mary
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Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard

[Traci Duncan]

Hi, I briefly used it on my iPhone with no problems.  Getting a keyboard 
without the stand may be better though, because so much that is done on an 
iPhone is in portrait mode.

Traci

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> Ah. Well, these Lightning keyboards will only work on iOS devices.
> 
> 
> Tjanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Rose Combs  > wrote:
> 
>> I’d probably choose Logitech since the one I have (cordless) is okay, not 
>> wonderful but it works, the older one is great except it does not have a 
>> context key which I know how to circumvent.  
>> I was using a new one for my work last spring, it was okay.  
>>  
>>  
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com 
>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
>> memory!
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Gmail
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Lightning Cable Keyboard
>>  
>> Sieghard and Rose, I asked the same question, and the person who bought it 
>> answered and said that she thought it would work on an iPhone, as this same 
>> question was asked on the Amazon page, and it was answered by someone who 
>> said that it would work on an iPhone. I can also confirm that this same 
>> question was answered on the page for the Logitech lightning keyboard, and 
>> people said it worked on an iPhone as well. I'm not sure how the Belcan 
>> keyboard feels to type on, but you might like the Logitech one, but Rose. 
>> The reviews I read that the keyboard had pretty good travel and clickiness.
>>  
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rose,
>>  
>> Even though Tracy wrote “This should work on all Lightning cable devices” 
>> this is not indicated if you check the Amazon page for which Tracy provided 
>> the link. Here is says:
>>  
>> Amazon.com : Belkin Apple MFi Certified Wired Tablet 
>> Keyboard with Stand and Lightning Connector for iPad Pro, iPad 4th Gen, iPad 
>> Air (All Versions), iPad
>> mini (All Versions), Designed for School and Classroom: Computers & 
>> Accessories
>>  
>> According to this it is designed and tested for iPads only and they make 
>> various versions for both older iPads with the 30-Pin connector as well as 
>> the newer ones with Lightning connector and there are also versions for 
>> Android tablets or Google Chrome books which use Micro USB.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Carol, it's for iDevices, and any phone or tablet for that matter. It isn't 
iOS specific.
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> On 26/09/2015, at 4:51 PM, 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
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> Oh, so there is a new keyboard?  I saw the one for the iPad, but is this for 
> any i device, Jonathan?
>  
> Carol P
>  
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>> From: Jonathan Mosen 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.
>> 
>> Hi Anita, mine is still shipping, but I just ordered an iClever foldable 
>> Bluetooth keyboard from Amazon. Apparently, when you unfold it, it's 
>> full-sized without a number pad, but it folds up nicely for transport in 
>> your pocket. Really looking forward to having a play.
>> In the meantime I have my Logitech Easy Switch keyboard which is great.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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>>> On 25/09/2015, at 10:14 AM, Anita >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> What's the most popular model of Bluetooth wireless keyboards for the 
>>> Mac and IOS devices? It'd be nice to have one that folds, but isn't a 
>>> must-have. When purchasing one of these, is the numpad included?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Anita
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.

['carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone]

Oh, so there is a new keyboard?  I saw the one for the iPad, but is this for 
any i device, Jonathan?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.


  Hi Anita, mine is still shipping, but I just ordered an iClever foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard from Amazon. Apparently, when you unfold it, it's full-sized 
without a number pad, but it folds up nicely for transport in your pocket. 
Really looking forward to having a play.
  In the meantime I have my Logitech Easy Switch keyboard which is great.

  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
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  http://Mosen.org


On 25/09/2015, at 10:14 AM, Anita  wrote:


Hi List,
What's the most popular model of Bluetooth wireless keyboards for the 
Mac and IOS devices? It'd be nice to have one that folds, but isn't a 
must-have. When purchasing one of these, is the numpad included?
Thanks,
Anita


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Touch ID success with new phone

[Mary Otten]

I was never able to get a touch ID fingerprint successfully entered using voice 
over with my 5S. With the new 6S, I did enlist sighted help, although I don't 
see why that really shouldn't matter. I was basically doing the same thing, 
lifting my finger and replacing it, lifting and replacing, lifting and 
replacing. And this time it worked. Whether it was the cited help or the 
improved touch ID sensor, I don't know. But I finally got a finger entered, and 
it actually works.
Mary

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Problem entering the final step of a credit card verification in Apple Pay

[Mary Otten]

I just got a new iPhone 6s, which is the first one I have had that enabled me 
to use Apple Pay. I have a credit card on file with iTunes, and it was offered 
that I could enter this into Apple Pay, which I excepted into the wallet. The 
final step of making this card available involves getting a code that you then 
have to enter when you open the Wallet app and choose your card. I chose to 
have the code emailed to me, as that seem to be the best way since my phone was 
in between carriers so to speak. I got my code and attempted to enter it. I 
know I entered it correctly. But it was rejected. I tried again couple of 
minutes later, with the same result. Is anyone had problems getting a card into 
the wallet on this final step?
Mary

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Gmail]

Hey, that's pretty neat. I'll probably find that useful, as I do quite a big of 
texting.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> …Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
> seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
> deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
> one.
> I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
> very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
> home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a 
> cool list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose 
> from the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type 
> or dictate. It's pretty slick.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
>> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
>> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
>> tapping of home button?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>>  
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Questions regarding an older Iphone and Straight Talk

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I have some questions regarding using Straight Talk, an a used Iphone. I will 
try to explain this the best way I can.

I have a friend, who has an Iphone 4S. This phone was running on the Sprint 
network.
My friend gave me the phone, and my fiance would like to be able to use it.
He currently has Straight Talk, and he is using an Android phone, from Straight 
Talk.
Could he possibly use this Iphone? He is not very technical. So I will likely 
have to help him get things set up. He wants to be able to keep the number he 
currently has with Straight Talk. But neither of us know if that would be 
possible, or not.
What do you all think about this?

I have an Iphone 4S, running on the verizon network. It is their pre-paid 
service.
If I wanted to give my fiance my phone, could I do this? And would he be able 
to keep his same number he currently has with Straight Talk?

Any help, or thoughts on this situation, would be so appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Jonathan,
I don't text that much, but if I did, I could see how that could be useful. 
There is a new Twitter update that implements 3-D touch. I don't think my 
Twitter client of choice has done that yet. It will be interesting to see what 
you can get from the home screen.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> …Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
> seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
> deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
> one.
> I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
> very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
> home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a 
> cool list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose 
> from the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type 
> or dictate. It's pretty slick.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
>> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
>> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
>> tapping of home button?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Jonathan Mosen]

…Hi Mary, I've not been able to open the App Switcher using 3D Touch as I've 
seen described in some mainstream publications. I'm wondering if this has 
deliberately been disabled, or whether I've yet to master the knack for this 
one.
I agree with others in this thread re peak and pop in Mail. I don't find that 
very beneficial. However I do very much enjoy all the extra shortcuts on the 
home screen. Now that I've been texting on the phone for 24 hours, I get a cool 
list of contacts when I firmly press on the Messages icon. When I choose from 
the list, focus is placed right in the edit field, ready for me to type or 
dictate. It's pretty slick.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 26/09/2015, at 1:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
> tapping of home button?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:
> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> ] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared > > wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi John, in the Live Photos demo, I'm not double tapping and holding, just 
locating the icon with a flick or tap, then lifting my finger, then placing it 
on the screen being sure not to move it at all and pressing firmly. Writing it 
down or explaining it makes it sound more complicated than it really is, and I 
think everyone will get the hang of it pretty quickly.
Just lift your finger, then press down again with some firmness. The phone will 
give you haptic feedback to let you know it's understood your firm press.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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> On 26/09/2015, at 2:33 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
> 
> I haven't found it to be useful in mail. The main reason is that if I
> preview a message, it can be hard to get out of that mode. However,
> when using it on the camera, I was able to choose whether to take a
> selfie, back picture, and several types of videos.
> I noticed when listening to Jonathans podcast on the Live picture,
> that I heard him double tap and hold to invoke the 3d touch feature.
> It will be interesting to see what developers do with this feature. I
> imagine that it could be fun when playing games for example.
> 
> On 9/25/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop
>> thing is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there
>> maybe some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app,
>> where you can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you
>> travel and use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in
>> Jonathan's demo. And I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with
>> things. Dropbox already supports it for instance.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to
>>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen
>>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as
>>> if he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down
>>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that
>>> message. If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press
>>> down further to pop the entire message open.
>>> 
>>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective
>>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm
>>> not getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail
>>> app set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an
>>> audible peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in
>>> order to read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and
>>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap
 and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your
 finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your
 finger in the process.
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
 
 I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold
 for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move
 the icon.
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point
 nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort
 of in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for
 another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
 
 That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
 
 John Diakogeorgiou
 
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
 My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to
 peek at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a
 quick bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want
 to.
 On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
 
 How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double

Re: Number of email messages

[Mary Otten]

Hi Les, what sort of backup did you use to restore your new phone? Or did you 
set it up as a new device? I used an encrypted iTunes backup. That meant that 
once I turned my phone on and got all the set up right, on my mail showed up. I 
didn't have to enter any passwords or any good stuff like that. Thank God for 
iTunes backup. Now if only my phone number would transfer over from Verizon to 
T-Mobile, I would be a happy camper.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and Richard,
> 
> When I first received my phone, I also got the no unread email messages. 
> However, when I went into the mail app, I did find that I had to set up my 
> Gmail account again. By this I mean, I had to enter my username and password. 
> Once that happens, the email messages KMan and now I see the number of unread 
> email messages when I look at the mail icon in the dock.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have 
>> noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often 
>> reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right 
>> number. But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells 
>> me I have X number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that 
>> are unread,… but I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that 
>> the messages are slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get 
>> into subjects and start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've even 
>> seen messages appear that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen with 
>> iOS 8. That's my theory anyway. But that doesn't help with your problem.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail 
>>> app icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages 
>>> or not?
>>> Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing 
>>> this.
>>> This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard 
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Re: Number of email messages

[Richard Turner]

Well, my 5S on the home screen says: hisMail No unread e-mails" no matter how 
many unread emails I have once I open the app, no matter if I have open the 
app, downloaded my email and then closed the app without reading them, etc.
But, once I open it and touch where it says updated, that often says how many 
unread emails I have.
Very strange.
Richard


> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:24 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary and Richard,
> 
> When I first received my phone, I also got the no unread email messages. 
> However, when I went into the mail app, I did find that I had to set up my 
> Gmail account again. By this I mean, I had to enter my username and password. 
> Once that happens, the email messages KMan and now I see the number of unread 
> email messages when I look at the mail icon in the dock.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have 
>> noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often 
>> reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right 
>> number. But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells 
>> me I have X number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that 
>> are unread,… but I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that 
>> the messages are slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get 
>> into subjects and start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've even 
>> seen messages appear that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen with 
>> iOS 8. That's my theory anyway. But that doesn't help with your problem.
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail 
>>> app icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages 
>>> or not?
>>> Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing 
>>> this.
>>> This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard 
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Re: Number of email messages

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary and Richard,

When I first received my phone, I also got the no unread email messages. 
However, when I went into the mail app, I did find that I had to set up my 
Gmail account again. By this I mean, I had to enter my username and password. 
Once that happens, the email messages KMan and now I see the number of unread 
email messages when I look at the mail icon in the dock.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 10:25 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have 
> noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often 
> reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right number. 
> But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells me I have 
> X number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that are unread,… 
> but I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that the messages 
> are slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get into subjects 
> and start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've even seen messages 
> appear that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen with iOS 8. That's my 
> theory anyway. But that doesn't help with your problem.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail app 
>> icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages or not?
>> Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing 
>> this.
>> This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
>> Thanks,
>> Richard 
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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Brett]

Hi 

I too would like to know how to do the calibration.
Cheers, 
Brett. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On Sep 26, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
> 
> Hi Carl,
>  
> Actually, I have only messed around a bit with it and haven't had time to 
> figure out the calibration part yet.  As soon as I do that I'll post my 
> results.
>  
> Dan Beaver
> 
> From: Karl Smith
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 9:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Flying Ruler it works
> 
> Dan, how did you calibrate it. It says to position the phone in the six 
> positions shown on the screen and I haven’t any idea what they are.
>  
> Karl
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dan Beaver
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works
>  
> Hi,
>  
> Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.
>  
> Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
> and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
> 1.43 inches.
>  
> I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is 
> going to be very good.
>  
> Dan Beaver
>  
> From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works
>  
> How accurate do you think it is?
>  
> Carol P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Dan Beaver
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
> Subject: Flying Ruler it works
>  
> Hi,
>  
> For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
> It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
> distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.
>  
> Just thought some of you might be interested.
>  
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Re: my braille is working

[eileen . misrahi]

Hi Rebecca,

Thanks for your explanation. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one that's 
having problems with MBraille. I recently sent Harri an email stating all of my 
frustrations and difficulties in using the app. I'm not sure if some of the 
issues are not from the iOS 8.4.1. At this time, I'll be sticking to this 
version. There's enough problems in iOS 9.0.1 that I want to stay away from it. 
Again, thanks for the info. I probably too should change the braille input to 
UEB. I began learning and reviewing in the NFB primer for UEB, but I think I'll 
contact The Hadley School for their course.

Kind regards,
Eileen

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> Hi Eileen.  Yes I too had been having difficulty with the MBraille keyboard 
> as well.  I have to use a braille display to learn some things for work.  I'm 
> using the apex and the back space is dot 7 and the enter key is dot 8.  In 
> order to avoid the issue with the Grade 2 typing I switched it to Unified 
> English Braille Code and 8 dot braille.  I figure I can learn to type in UEB 
> while doing this. Also there will be no strange translations with anything 
> you type. The dot 7 can also be typed in almost like the u cord to capitalize 
> a word if you want to capitalize a letter just type backspace with the letter 
> you want to capitalize.  If I want to capitalize a B I type dots 1 2 and 7 at 
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Gmail]

What kinds of things can you do with 3d touch and Dropbox?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop thing 
> is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there maybe 
> some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app, where you 
> can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you travel and 
> use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in Jonathan's demo. And 
> I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with things. Dropbox already 
> supports it for instance.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to 
>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen 
>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if 
>> he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down 
>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. 
>> If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further 
>> to pop the entire message open. 
>> 
>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective 
>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not 
>> getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app 
>> set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible 
>> peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to 
>> read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 
>> 
>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 
>> 
>> Alan Lemly 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your 
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger 
>>> in the process.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold 
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move 
>>> the icon.
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>>  
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Dan Beaver]

Hi Carl,

Actually, I have only messed around a bit with it and haven't had time to 
figure out the calibration part yet.  As soon as I do that I'll post my results.

Dan Beaver


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Dan, how did you calibrate it. It says to position the phone in the six 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

 

Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

 

I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is going 
to be very good.

 

Dan Beaver

 

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Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

How accurate do you think it is?

 

Carol P

 

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM

  Subject: Flying Ruler it works

   

  Hi,

   

  For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

   

  Just thought some of you might be interested.

   

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I haven't found it to be useful in mail. The main reason is that if I
preview a message, it can be hard to get out of that mode. However,
when using it on the camera, I was able to choose whether to take a
selfie, back picture, and several types of videos.
I noticed when listening to Jonathans podcast on the Live picture,
that I heard him double tap and hold to invoke the 3d touch feature.
It will be interesting to see what developers do with this feature. I
imagine that it could be fun when playing games for example.

On 9/25/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop
> thing is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there
> maybe some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app,
> where you can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you
> travel and use cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in
> Jonathan's demo. And I'm sure third-party app developers will come up with
> things. Dropbox already supports it for instance.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to
>> work even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen
>> colbert the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as
>> if he was looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down
>> slightly on the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that
>> message. If he was interested in reading the whole thing, he could press
>> down further to pop the entire message open.
>>
>> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective
>> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm
>> not getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail
>> app set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an
>> audible peek at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in
>> order to read the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional
>> time.
>>
>> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and
>> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap
>>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your
>>> finger on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your
>>> finger in the process.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>
>>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold
>>> for feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move
>>> the icon.
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort
>>> of in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>>
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to
>>> peek at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a
>>> quick bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want
>>> to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>>
>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: Audio Demonstration of the iPhone 6s Plus

[Gmail]

Wow! Your phone is super fast! I'm jealous. I still have an iPhone 4S. I plan 
to upgrade soon, but that's neither here nor there. :) Congratulations on your 
new iPhone 6S+.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 4:06 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a neat feature. I tried using it on my 6s but can't seem to
> get it to work.
> 
>> On 9/24/15, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
>> Hi everyone, This morning I received my iPhone 6s Plus. I've put together a
>> 30 minute podcast detailing my initial impressions. It includes an
>> explanation of a Siri bug unique to the new phones, and a demonstration of
>> 3d Touch.
>> You can listen to the demonstration here
>> .
>> 
>> Jonathan Mosen
>> Mosen Consulting
>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>> http://Mosen.org 
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Re: Number of email messages

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Mary I've not seen that. It will be curious to see if your faster
phone will help with that.

On 9/25/15, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have
> noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often
> reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right
> number. But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells
> me I have X number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that
> are unread,… but I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that
> the messages are slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get
> into subjects and start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've even
> seen messages appear that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen with
> iOS 8. That's my theory anyway. But that doesn't help with your problem.
> Mary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail
>> app icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages
>> or not?
>> Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing
>> this.
>> This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
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Re: Number of email messages

[Mary Otten]

Hi Richard, no. I have not noticed what you were talking about. What I have 
noticed, and can't decide why this is happening, is that the mail app often 
reports and in proper number of messages. Generally it says the right number. 
But when I've been in there, dealing with email, and then it tells me I have X 
number of messages, and that is more than I actually have that are unread,… but 
I haven't figured out a pattern. My working theory is that the messages are 
slower to download an iOS nine for some reason. So I get into subjects and 
start deleting in the list of subjects, and then I've even seen messages appear 
that I thought I had deleted. That didn't happen with iOS 8. That's my theory 
anyway. But that doesn't help with your problem.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail app 
> icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages or not?
> Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing 
> this.
> This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
> Thanks,
> Richard 
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Mary Otten]

Hi Alan,
I agree with you about the email app. I don't see where the Pek and pop thing 
is going to do us a lot of good as voiceover users. But I think there maybe 
some useful things in other apps. For instance, with the notes app, where you 
can immediately open a new note easily. Or the maps app, if you travel and use 
cabs, and need to go home. Those were two things in Jonathan's demo. And I'm 
sure third-party app developers will come up with things. Dropbox already 
supports it for instance.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
> even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
> the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
> looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on 
> the one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
> interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
> entire message open. 
> 
> I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective 
> brains to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not 
> getting how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app 
> set up to read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek 
> at each one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read 
> the whole thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 
> 
> As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
> hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
>>  
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Re: Number of email messages

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven't noticed this myself. I hear the number of unread messages when 
I touch the Mail app in my dock. My Mail app is set to manually refresh, 
so I need to open it first to get the new unread messages to download. 
If I leave the Mail app with some unread messages then I'll hear that 
number announced when I touch the Mail app. This works exactly as it did 
for me prior to the upgrade to IOS 9.


On 09/25/2015 08:48 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail app 
icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages or not?
Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing this.
This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
Thanks,
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Re: my braille is working

[Rebecca Ilniski]

Hi Eileen.  Yes I too had been having difficulty with the MBraille 
keyboard as well.  I have to use a braille display to learn some things 
for work.  I'm using the apex and the back space is dot 7 and the enter 
key is dot 8.  In order to avoid the issue with the Grade 2 typing I 
switched it to Unified English Braille Code and 8 dot braille.  I figure 
I can learn to type in UEB while doing this. Also there will be no 
strange translations with anything you type. The dot 7 can also be typed 
in almost like the u cord to capitalize a word if you want to capitalize 
a letter just type backspace with the letter you want to capitalize.  If 
I want to capitalize a B I type dots 1 2 and 7 at the same time.


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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[TaraPrakash]

Just click the link in jonathans emails and you can go for binge listening  one 
podcasts after another. 


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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:50 PM, Paul Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody. How do I access this podcast on my iPhone 5s?
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
>> 
>> Now that’s an awesome little feature and I can see how handy it would be for 
>> me as I have piles of pictures with useless names like 3428A69.jpg which 
>> mean nothing to me. Thanks to you and Heidi.
>>  
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus
>>  
>> Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
>> photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore 
>> it for the first time, working out how it might best be used as an 
>> accessibility tool. You can listen to the demo here.
>> Jonathan Mosen
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Alan Lemly]

I'm having trouble conceptualizing how the 3D touch thing is supposed to work 
even for the sighted world. When Tim Cook demonstrated it on Stephen colbert 
the other night, the email app was the one he used. It sounded as if he was 
looking at an abbreviated list of messages and by pressing down slightly on the 
one of interest, he could peek at a summary of that message. If he was 
interested in reading the whole thing, he could press down further to pop the 
entire message open. 

I realize the concept will no doubt expend as users put their collective brains 
to this technology but as far as the current email app goes, I'm not getting 
how it would benefit VoiceOver users. I currently have my mail app set up to 
read me five lines of each message so that gives me an audible peek at each 
one. Double tapping on the message to pop it open in order to read the whole 
thing really doesn't take a lot of additional time. 

As I said, I'm sure I'm missing a lot of how this new technology works and 
hopefully VoiceOver users will be able to get some benefit from it. 

Alan Lemly 

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
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>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: Vo still freezing after sending a reply email

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I have. It recovers better with the 6s though.

John Diakogeorgiou

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> Yes, I noted that same thing a few days ago on my 5S. I hope you are 
> reporting the phenomenon to Apple. I just reported it to Apple accessibility. 
> And I will report it again since I have a new phone. But I wasn't a beta 
> person, so I don't have that channel.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:45 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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>> I find that the bigger the thread the longer the longer the crash.  
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am sorry to report that on my shiny new 6S,  I still have the bug where, 
>>> when you send a reply to a message, voice over freezes. Nuts!
>>> Mary
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. How do I access this podcast on my iPhone 5s?

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
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> Now that’s an awesome little feature and I can see how handy it would be for 
> me as I have piles of pictures with useless names like 3428A69.jpg which mean 
> nothing to me. Thanks to you and Heidi.
>  
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[cd]

I have the 6 plus.  I just got it a few months ago so won’t be able to upgrade 
for some time and I think that’s OK.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

Well, it is very early days for 3-D touch. I have the idea that it is going to 
be more useful for sided folks then it will be for us. But I think it will be 
useful for us. What phone do you have now? I upgraded from a 5S. And for me, I 
think it is definitely worth having upgrade. If I had a six, I don't know that 
I would've upgraded. Probably not.
Mary


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On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:35 PM, cd  wrote:

Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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Number of email messages

[Richard Turner]

Has anyone else noticed that on the home screen, when you touch the mail app 
icon, it says no unread messages whether you have any unread messages or not?
Before I write Apple accessibility I wanted to see if others are noticing this.
This is separate from it not saying multiple messages in a thread.
Thanks,
Richard 

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Re: Vo still freezing after sending a reply email

[Mary Otten]

Yes, I noted that same thing a few days ago on my 5S. I hope you are reporting 
the phenomenon to Apple. I just reported it to Apple accessibility. And I will 
report it again since I have a new phone. But I wasn't a beta person, so I 
don't have that channel.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:45 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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> I find that the bigger the thread the longer the longer the crash.  
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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>> I am sorry to report that on my shiny new 6S,  I still have the bug where, 
>> when you send a reply to a message, voice over freezes. Nuts!
>> Mary
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Re: Vo still freezing after sending a reply email

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I find that the bigger the thread the longer the longer the crash.  

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I haven't decided yet. I think it will be over time.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:35 PM, cd  wrote:
> 
> Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
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> Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Mary Otten]

Well, it is very early days for 3-D touch. I have the idea that it is going to 
be more useful for sided folks then it will be for us. But I think it will be 
useful for us. What phone do you have now? I upgraded from a 5S. And for me, I 
think it is definitely worth having upgrade. If I had a six, I don't know that 
I would've upgraded. Probably not.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:35 PM, cd  wrote:
> 
> Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

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Now that’s an awesome little feature and I can see how handy it would be for me 
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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:04 PM
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Subject: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

 

Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore it 
for the first time, working out how it might best be used as an accessibility 
tool. You can listen to the demo here  
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I forgot about that. Refresh my short memory.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
> practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
> supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
> tapping of home button?
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap 
>> and hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger 
>> on the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>> process.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Vo still freezing after sending a reply email

[Mary Otten]

I am sorry to report that on my shiny new 6S,  I still have the bug where, when 
you send a reply to a message, voice over freezes. Nuts!
Mary

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

If their is a better way I'd like to know about it..

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:34 PM, Gmail  wrote:
> 
> I got the impression that you could do it that way, but didn't have to.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:31 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
>> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
>> icon.
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point 
>>> nobody has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of 
>>> in the same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for 
>>> another week or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>>  
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>>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>>  
>>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>>> 
>>> John Diakogeorgiou
>>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Mary Otten]

Think you're right about your impression of Jonathan's podcast. It will take 
practice. Has anyone had success opening the app switcher the way you're 
supposed to be able to do it on the 6S with a swipe instead of the double 
tapping of home button?
Mary

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
> hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
> the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
> process.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>  
> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[cd]

Is this 3d thing really worth having the 6S for?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

 

 

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

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John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Gmail]

I got the impression that you could do it that way, but didn't have to.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:31 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
> 
> I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
> feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the 
> icon.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
>> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
>> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
>> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John Diakogeorgiou
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?
>>  
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
>>  
>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I've been able to get the shortcuts for apps up. It will take practice.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:30 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I just got my 6S this afternoon. I have briefly tried force touch. And I am 
> not having very much luck either. I did not try it within the email app, as I 
> frankly don't see where it's a big advantage for us. But I haven't been able 
> to get it to do anything useful on screen either. The registers but then it 
> seems like apps just open. And that's not what I want. At least I don't think 
> so. A little bit frustrating. Takes me back to my first iPod touch when I was 
> ready to throw it through the window for the first few weeks. I'm sure this 
> is going to take a lot of practice.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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>> 
>> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
>> 
>> John Diakogeorgiou
>> 
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick 
>>> bit of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

>From Jonathan’s podcast I think the idea is not necessarily to double tap and 
>hold, but to just put focus on what it is you want, then put your finger on 
>the screen and press down making sure you don’t move your finger in the 
>process.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Mary Otten]

I just got my 6S this afternoon. I have briefly tried force touch. And I am not 
having very much luck either. I did not try it within the email app, as I 
frankly don't see where it's a big advantage for us. But I haven't been able to 
get it to do anything useful on screen either. The registers but then it seems 
like apps just open. And that's not what I want. At least I don't think so. A 
little bit frustrating. Takes me back to my first iPod touch when I was ready 
to throw it through the window for the first few weeks. I'm sure this is going 
to take a lot of practice.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 6:10 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
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> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
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>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> 
>> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
>> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
>> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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>>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I listened to it. I am starting to get it a bit. You double tap and hold for 
feedback then press either softly or hard. Sometimes it tries to move the icon.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
> has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the 
> same boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week 
> or 2 and by then you guys probably have figured it all out.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:11 PM
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>  
> That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: Flying Ruler it works

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The first screen you get is a sort of help screen, close it and then Voiceover 
will tell you to put the phone on it’s right side, then on it’s top, then 
bottom, then left side, then flat screen up and flat screen down. I am pretty 
sure this is the order it was in, but it will tell you and each time you put 
the phone in the requested position on a table or counter and let it sit still 
for a moment it will beep and then you go on to the next position.

 

 

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Karl Smith
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flying Ruler it works

 

Dan, how did you calibrate it. It says to position the phone in the six 
positions shown on the screen and I haven’t any idea what they are.

 

Karl

 

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

 

Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

 

I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is going 
to be very good.

 

Dan Beaver

 

From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
  

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

How accurate do you think it is?

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Dan Beaver   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM

Subject: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  It 
works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

Dan Beaver

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Re: Voiceover problem

[Richard Turner]

could you be more specific?
Exactly what is the problem?
This is a very helpful list, but you need to ask specific questions if you want 
good help.
I hope that makes sense.
Richard


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RE: Flying Ruler it works

[Karl Smith]

Dan, how did you calibrate it. It says to position the phone in the six 
positions shown on the screen and I haven’t any idea what they are.

 

Karl

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

 

Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

 

I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is going 
to be very good.

 

Dan Beaver

 

From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
  

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

How accurate do you think it is?

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Dan Beaver   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM

Subject: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  It 
works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

Dan Beaver

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RE: Voiceover problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi, I assume you maybe wanted to explain what your Voiceover problem is and 
accidently sent the email before you did so? If not, please do explain since 
Voiceover problems come in all sorts of flavours and nobody can provide a 
helpful answer unless there is detailed information about what you are trying 
to do and what Voiceover is doing or not doing.

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I'am having a Voiceover problem 

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Voiceover problem

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I'am having a Voiceover problem 

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RE: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jonathan does demonstrate it with an email, but I guess at this point nobody 
has more than 12 hours or so of experience and everybody is sort of in the same 
boat with respect to experimenting. I won’t get my 6S for another week or 2 and 
by then you guys probably have figured it all out.

 

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Subject: Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

 

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou


On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > wrote:

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.

On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared mailto:jared.stoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
or softer in email does not appear to do it.

 

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RE: Flying Ruler it works

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are only 2 tools that give you the accuracy for woodworking, either the 
talking tape measure (the one with the british accent) or the Click Rule from 
Community Advocates. Both give you accuracy to 1/16 of an inch or 1mm if you 
set the tape to metric or buy the metric version of the Click Rule. It's a bit 
easier to do longer pieces with the tape, but the Click Rule is awesome. 
Anyhow, since this departs from the iOS discussion I'll stop here, just thought 
I throw it in as a comparison to this app.
If there are any serious woodworkers on here who are looking for advice on 
either the talking tape measure or the click rule, please feel free to contact 
me personally at siegh...@live.ca, I've been doing it for a long time and tried 
all sorts of things.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

Hi,

For woodwork it probably isn't easy to get the kind of accuracy you want.  I 
could see it working though once one is practiced with moving it and not moving 
too far or stopping short.

Dan Beaver

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Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

What unit of measureing does it cover, is this inches or feet?. Measuring a 
drive or a room would be good, can't see it doing any good for woodwork though.
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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
Subject: Flying Ruler it works


Hi,

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works. 
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

Just thought some of you might be interested.

Dan Beaver

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Re: Touch ID

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Yeah sorry!

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You nmean 3D Touch not Touch Id, right?
> 
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> 
> For those of you who received a new phone today, have you attempted to
> play with 3d touch? I've had no success with it yet. I listened to
> Jonathans podcast, and made sure that touch id is turned on in
> accessability.
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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

That doesn't work. Has anyone been Aavle to do it?

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek 
> at, then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit 
> of feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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>> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
>> harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: Flying Ruler it works

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, sorry, just read this after I sent my question again. I didn’t realize you 
had to tap again, thought once you moved it and the phone came to rest it would 
automatically show the measurement.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

Yep,

 

once it does the measurement tap on the virtual ruler and it then shows the 
distance.

 

Dan  Beaver

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi Dan,

 

Just tried this and went through the calibration, but when I tried to messure a 
distance I tapped on Start, it made a sound, I moved the device and it made 
another sound, but nowhere on the screen could I read the distance. There was a 
Reset button which was dimmed and it always showed 0 even though I moved the 
phone about 3 feet. Anything you do that is different?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  It 
works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

Dan Beaver

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RE: Flying Ruler it works

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Could somebody explain exactly what they do and where the result of the 
measurement shows up? I did go through the calibration and set it to inches, 
then I use the virtual ruler style of measurement, but if I double tap start, 
wait for the tone, then move the phone and wait for another tone I get nothing.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

 

Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

 

I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is going 
to be very good.

 

Dan Beaver

 

From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone 
  

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works

 

How accurate do you think it is?

 

Carol P

 

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From: Dan Beaver   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM

Subject: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  It 
works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

Dan Beaver

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RE: problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Check in Settings > General > Accessibility > Voiceover > Typing Feedback.

Here you can set what sort of feedback you want for software and hardware 
keyboards, I assume your software keyboard typing feedback is set to nothing, 
set it back to characters and you will hear the character both when you touch 
it and when you release it. 

 

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Mich Verrier
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

 

hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 and I 
would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or a bug. I am 
typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I have typed them. I will 
put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't say the letter it will say it 
when I am having my finger on it but not after I enter it. it also is not 
reading the letters back if I need to delete a letter. is any one having this 
problem? I am using a eye phone 4s. from Mich.

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Re: How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Alex Hall]

My understanding is you simply push down. Touch the email you want to peek at, 
then just push your finger against the screen until you feel a quick bit of 
feedback. You can then push harder to open it, if you want to.
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 20:42, Jared  wrote:
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> How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping harder 
> or softer in email does not appear to do it.
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RE: Touch ID

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You nmean 3D Touch not Touch Id, right?

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Subject: Touch ID

For those of you who received a new phone today, have you attempted to
play with 3d touch? I've had no success with it yet. I listened to
Jonathans podcast, and made sure that touch id is turned on in
accessability.

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RE: Possible Bug in IOS 9/rotor problem

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Could you again describe step-by-step what you are doing and what the iPhone is 
doing differently? I did sort of read your initial message, but wanted to make 
sure I really understand this so I can reproduce what your are doing and see if 
this is an issue on my phone.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri Kosten
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Possible Bug in IOS 9/rotor problem

Hi Everyone:
I have bad news.
I updated to 9.01 this morning. I closed all my running apps, turned
my phone off for a few minutes, and turned it back on. I even turned
Voiceover off and back on.
I am still having the same problem.
Should I report? I was really hoping this would be fixed in 9.1.
I wonder why some of us have it and some of us don't if we are all
using Voiceover?
Thanks,
Kerri

On 9/25/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Please report because it has a wider implication but I can't at present
> discuss this.
>> On 25 Sep 2015, at 12:28, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>> Ever since updating to IOS 9, I am having a problem regarding the
>> rotor and I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if this is a
>> bug.
>> It used to be if I set the rotor to say words I could go into any app
>> and read by words.
>> Now when I set the rotor to words and then go into a text message and
>> try to edit it the rotor keeps going back to characters. Even if I try
>> to put it back on words it keeps going back to characters and it's
>> really annoying because I like to edit my messages going through word
>> by word instead of character by character.
>> Is anyone else having this problem/experiencing this?
>> Is there a setting or something new in IOS 9 I need to change or
>> switch to keep the rotor from going to character mode when I set it to
>> words?
>> Thanks,
>> Kerri
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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Dan Beaver]

Hi,

For woodwork it probably isn't easy to get the kind of accuracy you want.  I 
could see it working though once one is practiced with moving it and not 
moving too far or stopping short.

Dan Beaver

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What unit of measureing does it cover, is this inches or feet?. Measuring a 
drive or a room would be good, can't see it doing any
good for woodwork though.
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Hi,

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works. 
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up
and moving it to the distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly 
accessible.

Just thought some of you might be interested.

Dan Beaver

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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Dan Beaver]

Yep,

once it does the measurement tap on the virtual ruler and it then shows the 
distance.

Dan  Beaver


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Flying Ruler it works


Hi Dan,

 

Just tried this and went through the calibration, but when I tried to messure a 
distance I tapped on Start, it made a sound, I moved the device and it made 
another sound, but nowhere on the screen could I read the distance. There was a 
Reset button which was dimmed and it always showed 0 even though I moved the 
phone about 3 feet. Anything you do that is different?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Flying Ruler it works

 

Hi,

 

For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  It 
works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

 

Just thought some of you might be interested.

 

Dan Beaver

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How do you use 3d touch with Voiceover?

[Jared]

How do you use 3d touch on an iphone 6s with Voiceover? Double tapping 
harder or softer in email does not appear to do it.

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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Dan Beaver]

Hi,

Well, it claims to be accurate to .06 of an inch.

Personally with my small trial I found it very accurate indeed.  I started it 
and then moved it only about an inch and a half and it told me it had moved 
1.43 inches.

I haven't tried it with actual measurements yet but so far I think it is going 
to be very good.

Dan Beaver


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Subject: Re: Flying Ruler it works


How accurate do you think it is?

Carol P

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  Subject: Flying Ruler it works


  Hi,

  For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.

  Just thought some of you might be interested.

  Dan Beaver

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Re: names being dimmed in contacts

[Anthony Vece]

The contact may not have a number that is capable of accepting text messages.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 8:20 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> Alright, this is extremely odd.  It's happening to random people and i ahve 
> no idea why.  I went in to the messages app, clicked compose, add contact, 
> then searched for my friend.  When i found him, it said his name, dimmed.  
> Basicly, it meant it was dimmed out.  So, i figured ok, now i'll go to 
> contacts, and type in his name, and see what happens.  It worked that way.  
> I've had this happen to 4 random contacts in my contacts and it's a little 
> concerning.  It says their name, and it says dimmed next to it, and you can't 
> even double tap on it.  Any ideas?
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problem with bluetooth keyboard

[Judy Watford]

 
After updating my IPod, (I always do that first so if there is a serious
problem it won't affect my phone) the apple blue tooth keyboard is unusable
for data entry. You can double tap and navigate. When typing I get double
character entry. Has anyone seen this and do you know of a work around or
setting I can use. I can't do book searches or enter my id or passwords...
 
Thanks,
Judy
 

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Re: Audio Demonstration of the iPhone 6s Plus

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I have a 6s

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> 
> This is only available on the newest models, the 6sPlus and the 6Plus, 
> because of the unique hardware involved.
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Re: Audio Demonstration of the iPhone 6s Plus

[Matthew Bullis]

This is only available on the newest models, the 6sPlus and the 6Plus, because 
of the unique hardware involved.
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Re: problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Oh no! Let's hope it's not a general 4S bug with iOS 9.0.1! if so, 
I'll wait to update mine!


El 25/09/2015 06:13 p.m., Mich Verrier escribió:
hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 
and I would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or 
a bug. I am typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I 
have typed them. I will put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't 
say the letter it will say it when I am having my finger on it but not 
after I enter it. it also is not reading the letters back if I need to 
delete a letter. is any one having this problem? I am using a eye 
phone 4s. from Mich.

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problum with touch typing since updating to ios 9.1

[Mich Verrier]

hi all. I have found I have had a problem with touch typing in ios 9.1 and I 
would like to know if this is something that I am doing wrong or a bug. I am 
typing along and vo no longer says the letters after I have typed them. I will 
put my finger on a letter raze it and it won't say the letter it will say it 
when I am having my finger on it but not after I enter it. it also is not 
reading the letters back if I need to delete a letter. is any one having this 
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

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Hi John, by default, it's on. You'd have to expressly disable it if you don't 
want the feature on.
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> On 26/09/2015, at 11:04 AM, John Diakogeorgiou  wrote:
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> It's on both of them. It does need to be activated under camera settings.
> 
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Re: Audio Demonstration of the iPhone 6s Plus

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This is a neat feature. I tried using it on my 6s but can't seem to
get it to work.

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Re: Possible Bug in IOS 9/rotor problem

[Kerri G]

Hello, erri, I’m having the same issues as well.
Christian Johnson said, A Bible that's falling apart probably belongs to 
someone who isn't.



> On Sep 25, 2015, at 4:28 AM, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone:
> Ever since updating to IOS 9, I am having a problem regarding the
> rotor and I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if this is a
> bug.
> It used to be if I set the rotor to say words I could go into any app
> and read by words.
> Now when I set the rotor to words and then go into a text message and
> try to edit it the rotor keeps going back to characters. Even if I try
> to put it back on words it keeps going back to characters and it's
> really annoying because I like to edit my messages going through word
> by word instead of character by character.
> Is anyone else having this problem/experiencing this?
> Is there a setting or something new in IOS 9 I need to change or
> switch to keep the rotor from going to character mode when I set it to
> words?
> Thanks,
> Kerri
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

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It's on both of them. It does need to be activated under camera settings.

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> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

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Thank you to Hydie Mosan as well. 
 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[Richard Turner]

the app is free today.
If you don't get the verbal descriptions of the calibration positions at first, 
and you hit the close button, go to settings and double tap on calibration, 
then double tap on the close button in there, and you will get good 
instructions on how to calibrate the app.
I only did a couple quick tests, but it isn't bad.
I'll do more this weekend.
Richard


> On Sep 25, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Dan Beaver  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.  
> It works by starting the app then picking your phone up and moving it to the 
> distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly accessible.
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> Just thought some of you might be interested.
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[Kerri Kosten]

Hi:
Is live photos on the 6s or just the 6s plus?
Thanks,
Kerri

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>   Wow very interesting podcast indeed! How far the use of the IPhone has
> come!
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Re: my braille is working

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Rebecca, 

I was using my Apex this morning and I have a question about 6 dot and 8 dot 
braille. I found that the braille display had 6 dot, but didn’t indicate if it 
represented contracted or uncontracted braille. I changed it to 6 dot 
contracted, but what is the difference between 6 and 8 dot contracted braille? 
I was able to get a message or 2 sent off. I’ve been having lots of difficulty 
using MBraille either as a 3rd party or the main keyboard. So, for now, I’m 
going to stick with the display. 

thanks. 

Eileen 
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 9:17 PM, Rebecca Ilniski  wrote:
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> Rebecca and Zeb
> email: rilni...@gmail.com 
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> Hi  all. For those of you who are having difficulty with using your braille 
> display go into your braille settings and make sure yr automatic braille 
> translation is on. After I did that all is now working. Mine was off before.
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Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wow very interesting podcast indeed! How far the use of the IPhone has 
come!


El 25/09/2015 05:04 p.m., Jonathan Mosen escribió:
Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate 
how live photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together 
as I explore it for the first time, working out how it might best be 
used as an accessibility tool. You can listen to the demo here 
.

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Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore it 
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RE: Cases For Braille Displays

[Jesus Garcia]

If anyone does it would be executive products.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cd
Sent: September 25, 2015 17:36
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Subject: Cases For Braille Displays

 

Does anyone know if Executive Products or anyone makes a leather case for the 
Refresha Braille 18?  I couldn’t find one but I heard on one of the lists there 
is.  Thanks!

 

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Touch ID

[John Diakogeorgiou]

For those of you who received a new phone today, have you attempted to
play with 3d touch? I've had no success with it yet. I listened to
Jonathans podcast, and made sure that touch id is turned on in
accessability.

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Re: Possible Bug in IOS 9/rotor problem

[Kerri Kosten]

Hi Everyone:
I have bad news.
I updated to 9.01 this morning. I closed all my running apps, turned
my phone off for a few minutes, and turned it back on. I even turned
Voiceover off and back on.
I am still having the same problem.
Should I report? I was really hoping this would be fixed in 9.1.
I wonder why some of us have it and some of us don't if we are all
using Voiceover?
Thanks,
Kerri

On 9/25/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> Please report because it has a wider implication but I can't at present
> discuss this.
>> On 25 Sep 2015, at 12:28, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
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>> Hi Everyone:
>> Ever since updating to IOS 9, I am having a problem regarding the
>> rotor and I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if this is a
>> bug.
>> It used to be if I set the rotor to say words I could go into any app
>> and read by words.
>> Now when I set the rotor to words and then go into a text message and
>> try to edit it the rotor keeps going back to characters. Even if I try
>> to put it back on words it keeps going back to characters and it's
>> really annoying because I like to edit my messages going through word
>> by word instead of character by character.
>> Is anyone else having this problem/experiencing this?
>> Is there a setting or something new in IOS 9 I need to change or
>> switch to keep the rotor from going to character mode when I set it to
>> words?
>> Thanks,
>> Kerri
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Cases For Braille Displays

[cd]

Does anyone know if Executive Products or anyone makes a leather case for
the Refresha Braille 18?  I couldn't find one but I heard on one of the
lists there is.  Thanks!

 

Carla

 

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Re: Preparing certain apps for when my phone arrives?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I would suggest restoring your apps to iTunes then performing an encrypted 
backup to iTunes. This makes it easier to restore.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> HI guys
> What's the best way to somehow prepare certain apps I've been recommended, 
> like Google Voice Search, for hwen I restore the phone from iCloud, they'll 
> get installed? or would the best bet be to download them using ITunes on my 
> Laptop, and when the ICloud restore is done, syncronize my 4S with ITunes so 
> the apps get put on the phone?
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Preparing certain apps for when my phone arrives?

[Gerardo Corripio]

 HI guys
What's the best way to somehow prepare certain apps I've been 
recommended, like Google Voice Search, for hwen I restore the phone from 
iCloud, they'll get installed? or would the best bet be to download them 
using ITunes on my Laptop, and when the ICloud restore is done, 
syncronize my 4S with ITunes so the apps get put on the phone?


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Re: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired

[Tim Emmons]

I’m actually trying to find a way to put files from other book sources in Voice 
Dream Reader anyway so this is almost what I’m after too in a roundabout way. 
Lol. I love voice Dream, and want to get some files converted over and put 
there to read with too. The drives might help but I’m still stuck and stumped 
with trying to convert them to something it can read. Lol. Good job though 
nancy that’s exactly where my mind is at the moment. Take care. 
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Nancy Badger  wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't it be great if you could put books on it, and then put the books 
> into voice dream reader?
> 
> Nancy Badger, Ph.D
> Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
> UT Chattanooga
> Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Neal,
>> 
>> When you plug the drive into a PC it acts like any USB drive, you can open 
>> it in Windows Explorer, see all the folders and just copy and paste files to 
>> these folders. However, when you plug the drive into an iOS device it 
>> requires an app which is basically a file browser which also has the ability 
>> to view photos, documentsof those file types it supports and play music and 
>> video files, but this will all have to be done inside said app since Apple's 
>> sandbox approach does not allow these files to be available to, for example, 
>> the music app.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Neal Ewers
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:41 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired
>> 
>> There may be some confusion here. If they can only be used in the app you 
>> are using when you store files on them, how then, can they transfer 
>> information either to or from your desktop or laptop computer?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Russ Kiehne
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired
>> 
>> In my case, It sure is tempting!  It would make it a lot easier to transfer 
>> content to my ios device instead of trying to deal with using file sharing 
>> with itunes 12.3.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired
>> 
>> They are special USB drives which usually have a regular USB plug on one end 
>> so you can plug it into a computer and on the other side they have a 
>> Lightning connector to plug into your iPhone.
>> You can put anything you want on them, music, movies, pictures, documents 
>> etc. The issue is that for the most part you are limited to using this data 
>> inside whatever app you have to install to access the drive, e.g. if you put 
>> a bunch of songs onto one of these USB drives, it is not accessible by the 
>> music app.
>> Think of it like the Dropbox app except that instead of having the files in 
>> the cloud they are on a little USB drive connected to your phone.
>> Personally I don't find any use for them, they are quite expensive compared 
>> to a regular USB drive of the same capacity and you are better off spending 
>> that money and get the largest iPhone you can next time you buy a new one.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Amy Gordon
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 11:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: We Put a Trio of iOS Flash Drives to the Test Wired
>> 
>> didn't know there were ios flash drives. Can they be used with Iphone and 
>> what can u put on them?
>> 
>>> On 9/24/15, Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>>> as any one used any of these?
>>> 
>>> http://www.wired.com/2015/04/ios-flash-drives/
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Re: Time doesn't show on locked screen any more after upgrade to 9.01

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Thanks a bunch for all these tips! It's been nearly 5 months (almost 
six) since I've used an IPhone! thus when I get my 4S and if when 
updating it doesn't show the time, I'll definitely keep in mind to restart.


El 25/09/2015 03:19 p.m., Andrew Lamanche escribió:

Thanks to all who have responded.  My time announcements are back.  I have 
followed your tips and finally I got it back.  Goodness knows how but it's 
worked and I'm mightily relieved.

On 25 Sep 2015, at 09:25, Shai  wrote:

Hello Andrew,
I too am unable to reproduce your findings  with VoiceOver on an
iPhone5s running IOS 9.0.1. I did have this problem once though and at
the time, restarting the phone by powering it all the way off and back
on resolved the issue for me.
Have you tried this? I know that it might be an obvious step, but
sometimes this does resolve problems.


On 9/24/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

Hello,

I've just updated my iPhone 5C to the latest OS 9.01.  The curious thing is
that since then I can't see the time showing on the locked screen as I push
the power button.  I'm baffled.  Up till now, I used to push the power
button and Voiceover would give me the time.  Now it doesn't and as I flick
across the locked screen I can hear "unlock" date but no time and then the
usual status bar.  Has anyone else noticed this?

Andrew

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Re: Time doesn't show on locked screen any more after upgrade to 9.01

[Andrew Lamanche]

Thanks to all who have responded.  My time announcements are back.  I have 
followed your tips and finally I got it back.  Goodness knows how but it's 
worked and I'm mightily relieved.
> On 25 Sep 2015, at 09:25, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hello Andrew,
> I too am unable to reproduce your findings  with VoiceOver on an
> iPhone5s running IOS 9.0.1. I did have this problem once though and at
> the time, restarting the phone by powering it all the way off and back
> on resolved the issue for me.
> Have you tried this? I know that it might be an obvious step, but
> sometimes this does resolve problems.
> 
> 
> On 9/24/15, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've just updated my iPhone 5C to the latest OS 9.01.  The curious thing is
>> that since then I can't see the time showing on the locked screen as I push
>> the power button.  I'm baffled.  Up till now, I used to push the power
>> button and Voiceover would give me the time.  Now it doesn't and as I flick
>> across the locked screen I can hear "unlock" date but no time and then the
>> usual status bar.  Has anyone else noticed this?
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Anita, mine is still shipping, but I just ordered an iClever foldable 
Bluetooth keyboard from Amazon. Apparently, when you unfold it, it's full-sized 
without a number pad, but it folds up nicely for transport in your pocket. 
Really looking forward to having a play.
In the meantime I have my Logitech Easy Switch keyboard which is great.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 25/09/2015, at 10:14 AM, Anita  wrote:
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> Hi List,
> What's the most popular model of Bluetooth wireless keyboards for the Mac 
> and IOS devices? It'd be nice to have one that folds, but isn't a must-have. 
> When purchasing one of these, is the numpad included?
> Thanks,
> Anita
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Bluetooth Keyboard Recommendations.

[Anita]

Hi List,
What's the most popular model of Bluetooth wireless keyboards for the Mac 
and IOS devices? It'd be nice to have one that folds, but isn't a must-have. 
When purchasing one of these, is the numpad included?
Thanks,
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Re: Possible Bug in IOS 9/rotor problem

[Andrew Lamanche]

Please report because it has a wider implication but I can't at present discuss 
this.
> On 25 Sep 2015, at 12:28, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone:
> Ever since updating to IOS 9, I am having a problem regarding the
> rotor and I'm not sure if I am doing something wrong or if this is a
> bug.
> It used to be if I set the rotor to say words I could go into any app
> and read by words.
> Now when I set the rotor to words and then go into a text message and
> try to edit it the rotor keeps going back to characters. Even if I try
> to put it back on words it keeps going back to characters and it's
> really annoying because I like to edit my messages going through word
> by word instead of character by character.
> Is anyone else having this problem/experiencing this?
> Is there a setting or something new in IOS 9 I need to change or
> switch to keep the rotor from going to character mode when I set it to
> words?
> Thanks,
> Kerri
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Re: Flying Ruler it works

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I would think for this to be accurate the person holding the phone
would need to have a very steady hand.

On 9/25/15, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  wrote:
> What unit of measureing does it cover, is this inches or feet?. Measuring a
> drive or a room would be good, can't see it doing any
> good for woodwork though.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Beaver" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 7:57 PM
> Subject: Flying Ruler it works
>
>
> Hi,
>
> For anyone who has the need to measure things or distances this app works.
> It works by starting the app then picking your phone up
> and moving it to the distance you want measured.  It works and seems fairly
> accessible.
>
> Just thought some of you might be interested.
>
> Dan Beaver
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