Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[christopher hallsworth]

Is this through standard navigation or using links in the rotor?
> On 13 Nov 2015, at 10:05, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> I also like the progress beeps on Firefox, that’s a nice feature.
> I don’t know if it’s me or something else, but i get the feeling i can’t 
> reach all links of a page but as i said, it could be me doing something wrong.
> /Krister
> 
>> 13 nov. 2015 kl. 07:58 skrev christopher hallsworth 
>> :
>> 
>> For one thing, I like the progress beeps when a web page is loading. No 
>> other browser on iOS does this. It also seems very responsive and fast 
>> typical of Firefox on at least the Windows platform. The progress beeps may 
>> remind you of NVDA on the Windows platform.
>>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 01:58, Stephanie  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Howoes it compare to chrome? 
>>> Steph
>>> - Original Message -
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>>> To: Viphone  
>>> Date: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:20 am
>>> Subject: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible
>>> 
 
 
 Evening all
 
 Subject says it, Firefox has come to iOS and is accessible with VoiceOver 
 with a minor issue or few along with some nice tweaks. Please check out 
 the entry at
 www.applevis.com
 I tried it, and like it.
 
 
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Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
It is through standard navigation. I’ll have to see if it really is like that 
or if i’m doing something wrong somewhere. The links should be visible because 
Safari on the Mac for example reports them as links so should be no problems.
/Krister

> 13 nov. 2015 kl. 11:44 skrev christopher hallsworth :
> 
> Is this through standard navigation or using links in the rotor?
>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 10:05, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
>> 
>> I also like the progress beeps on Firefox, that’s a nice feature.
>> I don’t know if it’s me or something else, but i get the feeling i can’t 
>> reach all links of a page but as i said, it could be me doing something 
>> wrong.
>> /Krister
>> 
>>> 13 nov. 2015 kl. 07:58 skrev christopher hallsworth 
>>> :
>>> 
>>> For one thing, I like the progress beeps when a web page is loading. No 
>>> other browser on iOS does this. It also seems very responsive and fast 
>>> typical of Firefox on at least the Windows platform. The progress beeps may 
>>> remind you of NVDA on the Windows platform.
 On 13 Nov 2015, at 01:58, Stephanie  wrote:
 
 Howoes it compare to chrome? 
 Steph
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 Date: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:20 am
 Subject: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible
 
> 
> 
> Evening all
> 
> Subject says it, Firefox has come to iOS and is accessible with VoiceOver 
> with a minor issue or few along with some nice tweaks. Please check out 
> the entry at
> www.applevis.com
> I tried it, and like it.
> 
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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks much.  Yes, it still has ios 8.4.1 on it, and I am planning to update 
this over the weekend, and will then see what happens with the charger.  I will 
also try connecting it to the computer when I am doing the update, and will see 
if that makes any difference at all.

Thanks for helping.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 4:56 PM
  Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  Hi Jan,

   

  What version of iOS is on this phone? If it is an older version, you could 
upgrade to iOS 9.1 and see if this makes a difference. If not I’d try both a 
different charger and a different cable, the problem could be with any of the 
involved products, the wall adapter, the cable or the phone. O f course it’s 
always best to first illuminate the easy stuff especially since a lot of people 
have iPhones one can usually find somebody who can lend an adapter or cable.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jan Kleinhans
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:06 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

   

  Hi Sieghard

  Thanks for answering this.  It was indeed the wall charger, and I will see 
what will happen now after setting the phone up.  It makes no sense to me 
having the connector fit both ways, but the phone only wanting to charge one 
way.  The connector is not marked, so one would not have known that, and then I 
would have expected it to work like my older iphone 4s, where the cable only 
fits one way.  Thank you for clarifying this.

   

  Regards

   

  Jan

   

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From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:15 AM

Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

 

I agree you should try a different cable and, if you were charging with the 
cable plugged into a laptop try a different USB port or, as Feliciano 
suggested, try the wall adapter.

I have, however, heard from a friend in Germany that his 5S charges with 
the cable plugged in either way, but he can only sync if he plugs it in a 
certain way. If I had been him and if this was consistant across cables, I 
would have returned the phone since to me this is a defect.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

 

Hi,

this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so 
it should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:

  Hi all

   

  My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the 
phone for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could 
be plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

   

  Any help greatly appreciated

   

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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

I certainly will try that, have found that to happen when using other equipment 
as well.  I sometimes have a way of forcing a thing to fit, and I am careful 
not to do that with the phone, as it is a delicate piece of equipment.  Will 
certainly give that a go.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Pearson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  hi,

  For what it's worth, I had problems with mine. I don't know what the problems 
were, but think it was probably that you had to put the plug into the phone 
rather more definite later than I was doing. I do not see the problem now, so I 
think it must be a case of getting it bedded in. Worth a try! I went to the 
Apple Store with mine and, of course, they got it working straightaway. I had 
tried a number of times! Anyway now it is fine, so I suggest you have another 
go and make sure that plug is properly in


  I hope this might help! If it doesn't, of course, take the phone back!On 12 
Nov 2015, at 4:34 a.m., Feliciano Godoy  wrote:


  Hi,
  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if so it 
should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I would 
try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will not 
erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the wake 
sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,
  Feliciano
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  On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:17 PM, Jan Kleinhans  wrote:


Hi all

My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the phone 
for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could be 
plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which way you turn the plug, but my problem: 
does it only charge going in a certain way, as when my sighted child got to the 
phone, he informed me that the phone was not charged.  I was astonished about 
this, so he turned the connector the other way, and sure enough, the phone is 
now charging.  Is this indeed the way it has to work, as one would have to mark 
the connector then, especially should you not get any voiceover speech for some 
reason when charging the phone?  I thought I read somewhere that it did not 
matter which way the connector was connected to the phone with the lightning 
cables provided, so is this understanding of mine wrong then?

Any help greatly appreciated

Jan Kleinhans
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please I am in trouble

[ruby alphonse]

Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby

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Re: please I am in trouble

[Kimber Gardner]

Have you tried rebooting the phone?

On 11/13/15, ruby alphonse  wrote:
> Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
> times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
> I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
> grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby
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Re: please I am in trouble

[RobH.]

I suggest you shut it down the official way by holding Home and Power together 
until it shuts down.  Leave it a minute, then hold 
Power for a few seconds to get it to start up again.

I know myold iPad Mini gets the crackles sometimes and have to shut it off to 
recover.
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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:23 AM
Subject: please I am in trouble


Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
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Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector

[Jan Kleinhans]

Hi

Thanks for the suggestion.  No, it is indeed a brand new phone, so I would hope 
that the latter won't be true.  Will see what the phone does after updating it 
this weekend.  Here where I live in South Africa, East London being the city, 
we don't even have an apple store, so the phone goes back to the network 
carier, and I truely hope that won't be necessary.

Thanks all the same for the advice on the port.

Jan

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector


  The original post talking about the iPhone 5S only charging with the 
lightning connector turned one way said the phone was new. Was the phone a 
brand new device or was it only new to your household? If the latter and the 
phone was previously used by another, it is possible that some lint or other 
detritus has gotten into the lightning port on the phone and is affecting its 
charging. I've had this happen with both my previous iPhone 5 and my current 
iPhone 6 and when the port gets stuff in it, the results when plugging in a 
lightning cable are unpredictable. I've gotten unauthorized cable messages, 
charging only working when the cable is plugged a certain way, and the cable 
not staying connected until taking my phones to the apple store to have the 
port cleaned out. 


  I wanted to mention this in case it might be a possibility. 


  Good luck. 


  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 12, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Jan,



What version of iOS is on this phone? If it is an older version, you could 
upgrade to iOS 9.1 and see if this makes a difference. If not I’d try both a 
different charger and a different cable, the problem could be with any of the 
involved products, the wall adapter, the cable or the phone. O f course it’s 
always best to first illuminate the easy stuff especially since a lot of people 
have iPhones one can usually find somebody who can lend an adapter or cable.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jan Kleinhans
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



Hi Sieghard

Thanks for answering this.  It was indeed the wall charger, and I will see 
what will happen now after setting the phone up.  It makes no sense to me 
having the connector fit both ways, but the phone only wanting to charge one 
way.  The connector is not marked, so one would not have known that, and then I 
would have expected it to work like my older iphone 4s, where the cable only 
fits one way.  Thank you for clarifying this.



Regards



Jan



  - Original Message - 

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:15 AM

  Subject: RE: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



  I agree you should try a different cable and, if you were charging with 
the cable plugged into a laptop try a different USB port or, as Feliciano 
suggested, try the wall adapter.

  I have, however, heard from a friend in Germany that his 5S charges with 
the cable plugged in either way, but he can only sync if he plugs it in a 
certain way. If I had been him and if this was consistant across cables, I 
would have returned the phone since to me this is a defect.





  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Feliciano Godoy
  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:35 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Iphone 5s and the lightning connector



  Hi,

  this is not normal behavior. Are you using the Apple charging cable, if 
so it should charge no matter the position. Is this with the wall charger, I 
would try a hard reset and see if that gets it working A hard reset will 
not erase content or settings, simply refreshes the operating system. Hold the 
wake sleep button and home button for about 7 seconds to do a hard reset. Try 
another cable if you have a space, or better yet take it to apple if it is 
new... position. I have not had this problem using Apple and Amazon Basics 
cables.If the phone is in a case, try

  Regards,

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Hi all



My wife has obtained a new iphone 5s, and so we wanted to charge the 
phone for the very first time.  My understanding was that the connector could 
be plugged into the phone, no matter what side was up, meaning that it would go 
into the fitting of the phone regardless of which way around you connected it.  
Well, it indeed does fit no matter which 

Re: Reminders in the do app how do I

[Carol Pearson]

Hi there,

I am just beginning to get to grips with it also.

It would seem that you can add words to your time so I have just set a reminder 
for my doctor's appointment today. I wrote 10 AM doctor. it doesn't seem to 
matter whether you've got the time or an explanation first.

If you want to change that reminder, the easiest way for us to do it I think is 
to delete it and then add a new one. It is quicker that way! At least, it is 
for me. Once you understand the layout and  know where your reminder is, it is 
quite quick to find it.

I hope this helps you. Please let me know if it does!Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 13 Nov 2015, at 02:32, Lea W Langley  wrote:

Hi all, I am sending this to the list as I thought that maybe many more people 
besides me would like to know. I know that when you go into a reminder you can 
type the name in it then, but if you have save the reminder and have not titled 
it is there a way to title it? If there is does anyone know how to do it? I 
really do like this app. Thanks to all for the help God bless, Wren Langley

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Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[Krister Ekstrom]

I also like the progress beeps on Firefox, that’s a nice feature.
I don’t know if it’s me or something else, but i get the feeling i can’t reach 
all links of a page but as i said, it could be me doing something wrong.
/Krister

> 13 nov. 2015 kl. 07:58 skrev christopher hallsworth :
> 
> For one thing, I like the progress beeps when a web page is loading. No other 
> browser on iOS does this. It also seems very responsive and fast typical of 
> Firefox on at least the Windows platform. The progress beeps may remind you 
> of NVDA on the Windows platform.
>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 01:58, Stephanie  wrote:
>> 
>> Howoes it compare to chrome? 
>> Steph
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: Viphone  
>> Date: Friday, November 13, 2015 9:20 am
>> Subject: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible
>> 
>>> 
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>>> Evening all
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>>> Subject says it, Firefox has come to iOS and is accessible with VoiceOver 
>>> with a minor issue or few along with some nice tweaks. Please check out the 
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>>> I tried it, and like it.
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to 
turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
 I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me 
english ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, 
should I do something first to see where it says something about Auto 
translation?  I am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but 
trouble since the updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter 
which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my 
typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, 
especiall using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials 
for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both 
have the most recent updates.

Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of Braille 
settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a braille input 
mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 46 
respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out if 
its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is 
english, united kingdom english and ueb.

I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 
and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure 
out if its set to auto.

I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
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and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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Re: Pet simulation games

[Trea Abma]

Hatchi is sleeping now and I already bought many coins ;-)

On 11/13/2015 1:56 PM, MamaPeach wrote:
It is listed as Hatchi - A Retro Virtual Pet and the developer is 
Portable Pixels


-Original Message- From: Trea Abma
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Subject: Re: Pet simulation games

What is hachi? I get 14 results in the appstore and don't know what to
look for. Sounds interesting.

On 11/13/2015 3:00 AM, Rayette Rucker wrote:
Does anyone know of any pet simulation games for the iPhone besides 
Hachi?


Rayette





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Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[Wayne Merritt]

Anyone know where to find bookmarks in FireFox? I added a book mark
but then could not find it at the bottom of the screen or in the
Firefox settings.

Wayne

On 11/13/15, Nicki keck  wrote:
> You cannot view flash content or listen to flash content with the Firefox
> IOS version can you?  I know you can't with safari or chrome, but I heard of
> some browser that does have the ability but Iheard it from a sighted user so
> didn't know if it would be accessible.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of TaraPrakash
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible
>
> anything that firefox does better than Safari? I wish it can let you save
> files for offline listening or viewing.
> (Aside) is there a shortcut key for replying to emails when using bluetooth
> keyboard?)
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>>
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Scott Davert]

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

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> Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
> whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
> is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
> character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
> at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
> and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
> Patti
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

With auto-translation off, text is translated when you press Space or Enter. 
You only need to press Space with dots 4-5 if you enter text and don't want to 
press Space or Enter.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hi Patty.
> If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
> hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
> symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
> with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>> Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
>> whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
>> is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
>> character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
>> at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
>> and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
>> Patti
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of Braille 
settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a braille input 
mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
> united kingdom english and ueb.
> I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
> If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 46 
> respectively?
> so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out 
> if its set to auto.
> I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
> Patti
> 
> or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:
>> Hi Patty.
>> If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
>> hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
>> symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
>> with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
>>> whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
>>> is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
>>> character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
>>> at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
>>> and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
>>> Patti
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Re: Pet simulation games

[Wayne Merritt]

I think there have been some entries on AppleVis, but I don't recall
the app names off hand.

Wayne

On 11/13/15, MamaPeach  wrote:
> It is listed as Hatchi - A Retro Virtual Pet and the developer is Portable
> Pixels
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> What is hachi? I get 14 results in the appstore and don't know what to
> look for. Sounds interesting.
>
> On 11/13/2015 3:00 AM, Rayette Rucker wrote:
>> Does anyone know of any pet simulation games for the iPhone besides
>> Hachi?
>>
>> Rayette
>>
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RE: please I am in trouble

[SSEric]

That has happened to me a few times recently. Also using an iPhone 5 and the
latest IOS.

I found the cure that worked for me to be to completely shut down the phone
-- reboot so to speak.

I hope that works for you.

Eric


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of ruby alphonse
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 4:23 AM
To: viphone
Subject: please I am in trouble

Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby

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problem with voice dream

[don bishop]

I'm using an iphone 6 so plus running ios9.1. 
Having a problem with voice dream. It crashed whenever I tried to run it. I 
uninstalled and reinstalled and it worked perfectly the first time I ran it. 
However, every time I have tried it since then, the program crashes. 
Anyone else having this problem? 

Thanks,
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Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

[Colin McDonald]

I find using the FB app on my phone, the mobile site on my pc, and the regular 
desktop site, while blowted, all work quite well.
If you don’t like facebook that’s something else entirely, but it’s not 
inaccessible.
Now, if FB would just breakdown and allow for RSS feeds of pages and groups, an 
easy way to select all your friends for events and invites then we’d be 
laughing.
>From what I remember, you have to use the desktop facebook site, and when you 
>access your page, you can find out who has liked your page via one of the 
>hover menus...remember guys, the facebook app is designed as a simplified, 
>dumbed down version of the site and does not offer all the features and 
>functions of the desktop site.
Especially when you need to access detailed information or make very specific 
setting changes, you do have to use the main desktop website and not the app or 
mobile version of the site.

Regards
Colin
From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

If the Facebook Accessibility team are so good, why is Facebook such a mess to 
work in full page, mobile site and on the iPhone?  There a lot of questions on 
my part, not the least part why I am unable to fix errors on my profile page, 
errors FB made, collecting items from friends I have on FB and putting their 
info in my profile.  I can’t fix it, my late husband could not fix it, it 
appears that using a screen reader it can’t be done.  That is a major for me 
since lately I have been getting friend requests with lots of wrong 
impressions, people who don’t know what “blind” means, people who think that 
because of that I should not live alone, have ever had a job … 

Annoying to say the least.  I’d dump it except it is the only way a few family 
members communicate, even posting a picture with no description lets me know 
they are alive and posting!  

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

Indeed. Their Facebook accessibility team is pretty good with getting back to 
you also. Check out the link below as you can report a bug on the link found on 
that webpage.

https://www.facebook.com/help/141636465971794/

You may also want to follow their Facebook accessibility fan page.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

  Wow. Thank you very much for the reply. I guess we need to make some noise  
order to make this a little more accessible. :-)

  Sent from my iPhone 6!


  On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

Hi, you can no longer do this on the Facebook pages app as it is not 
accessible with voiceover. I have also try to look at this information in the 
past using the Safari browser on my iPhone with the mobile version of Facebook 
with  no luck. I have also had no luck accessing my Facebook fan page with the 
Safari browser using the desktop  site.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

  Hi there,

   

  Let’s see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.

   

  In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook 
Page for my music band.  Pages are a little different from the personal 
accounts.  I downloaded the facebook Pages app and use it on the iPhone with 
minimal problems. 

  On this page, it says that I have 173 “likes.”  I’d like to know how I 
can find out who has “liked” our page so far.  There used to be a way a while 
back, and although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a way.  However, 
I can no longer remember what that was and would like to know if anyone on this 
list can help me.

   

  Thanks again for any help!

  Jim

   

   

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Re: accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i devices

[Billy Maynard]

hi,

I use apple music and the only problum I relaly find isthat vo forgets the 
roter setting or somethines vo looses focus  on an item (s)  usualy if I'm 
searching for music and the list is very long it's relaly difficult to get to 
the bottom of a lit if the artest I'm looking at has a lot of albums it'll 
loose focus and relaly relaly hard to get tothe last few listings.  

Other than that I think it works great. 

Sincerely, 
Billy Maynard
  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Lumpkin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:36 PM
  Subject: accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i devices


  Hello.  I would appreciate hearing from any of you who use apple music in 
itunes or on an I device.  What accessibility issues have you encountered??  
Has itunes match presented any problems?

   


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Re: please I am in trouble

[ruby alphonse]

Hi Kimber, I tried that too, I switched of and started my phone, it
stays very clear for sometimes then when I make about Five or Six
calls or use my braille screne input, then the voice over gets shaky
again and acts funny.it stammers, and I don't understand sometimes
what it says. I am using IPhone 5 and IOS 9.1. any help is
appreciated. Ruby

On 11/13/15, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> Have you tried rebooting the phone?
>
> On 11/13/15, ruby alphonse  wrote:
>> Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
>> times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
>> I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
>> grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

Thanks, Anna, I'll try again.
I sure thought I'd done all this correctly, but maybe I haven't.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 braille), 
uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no translation), 
and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using UEB or English Grade 
2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice on this screen is 
Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot 
braille.

For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's no 
translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, you can 
use it and contracted braille in any edit field.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to turn it 
off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english ueb 
and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do something 
first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I am sorry to 
appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the updates, getting 
input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my typing keyboard 
on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall using my Ipad.  What 
I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on 
the ipad, and both have the most recent updates.
Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of Braille 
settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a braille input 
mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 46 
respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out if 
its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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I like both, but prefer the iOS way. However, recent updates to iTunes has made 
the controls in the Apple Music web interface accessible to the point it's 
quite clear the button(s) will play the song, album or playlist. Before that, 
it would just say button, it being screen readers on either platform, including 
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Re: please I am in trouble

[ruby alphonse]

Hi Eric, I tried switching of the phone and starting it again, for
some time it is very clear, and then it starts to be shaky and a kind
of stammering and sometimes I don't understand what the voice over
says. Please help. I am much obliged to you. Ruby

On 11/13/15, SSEric  wrote:
> That has happened to me a few times recently. Also using an iPhone 5 and
> the
> latest IOS.
>
> I found the cure that worked for me to be to completely shut down the phone
> -- reboot so to speak.
>
> I hope that works for you.
>
> Eric
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> Subject: please I am in trouble
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> Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
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> I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

Yes it makes sense, and I am thrilled to report that I got accomplished 
what I have been trying to do since I bought my ipad.
I can't believe I was just not getting this.  I guess it takes a hammer 
to my head sometimes to get through to me!  Thanks for all your patience 
and putting up with me.

Patti
On 11/13/2015 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Patti,

How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your braille 
display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you type is translated. 
And whether auto-translation is on or not is irrelevant if you're using 
uncontracted 8-dot braille because there is no translation when you use that 
setting. The only thing auto-translation does is, if you type some text and 
haven't pressed Space or Enter, if it's on, the text will be translated after a 
couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will only be translated if you press 
Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I hope that makes sense.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words auto 
translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my 
display output.  Should I have screen input the same?
I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 braille), 
uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no translation), 
and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using UEB or English Grade 
2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice on this screen is 
Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot 
braille.

For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's no 
translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, you can 
use it and contracted braille in any edit field.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to turn it 
off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english ueb 
and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do something 
first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I am sorry to 
appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the updates, getting 
input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my typing keyboard 
on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall using my Ipad.  What 
I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on 
the ipad, and both have the most recent updates.
Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of Braille 
settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a braille input 
mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 46 
respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out if 
its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Paul Richard McGann]

to all,

let's move on. I guess patti is not paying attention to what scott davert 
has to say. let's move on. give patti time to come up to the right sense. 
wink1 okay1


sincerely,
rich

-Original Message- 
From: Scott Dollar

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Hi Patti,

I am going to have to agree with Scott Davert.  He is correct.  Please read
his response to your  post.

Respectful,

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- 
From: Patti Johnson

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words
auto translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my
display output.  Should I have screen input the same?
I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no 
translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using 
UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice 
on this screen is Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've 
chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.


For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's 
no translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, 
you can use it and contracted braille in any edit field.


I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to 
turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english 
ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do 
something first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I 
am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the 
updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my 
typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall 
using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I 
could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both have the most 
recent updates.

Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of 
Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a 
braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and 
six-dot.


Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is 
english, united kingdom english and ueb.

I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 
and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure 
out if its set to auto.

I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am 
having

is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in 
the

at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

[Rose Combs]

Hover, Ug!  Not helpful.  

I sure wish they would make it easier to post, easier to fix profile … 

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Colin McDonald
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

I find using the FB app on my phone, the mobile site on my pc, and the regular 
desktop site, while blowted, all work quite well.

If you don’t like facebook that’s something else entirely, but it’s not 
inaccessible.

Now, if FB would just breakdown and allow for RSS feeds of pages and groups, an 
easy way to select all your friends for events and invites then we’d be 
laughing.

>From what I remember, you have to use the desktop facebook site, and when you 
>access your page, you can find out who has liked your page via one of the 
>hover menus...remember guys, the facebook app is designed as a simplified, 
>dumbed down version of the site and does not offer all the features and 
>functions of the desktop site.

Especially when you need to access detailed information or make very specific 
setting changes, you do have to use the main desktop website and not the app or 
mobile version of the site.

 

Regards

Colin

From: Rose Combs   

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:55 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

If the Facebook Accessibility team are so good, why is Facebook such a mess to 
work in full page, mobile site and on the iPhone?  There a lot of questions on 
my part, not the least part why I am unable to fix errors on my profile page, 
errors FB made, collecting items from friends I have on FB and putting their 
info in my profile.  I can’t fix it, my late husband could not fix it, it 
appears that using a screen reader it can’t be done.  That is a major for me 
since lately I have been getting friend requests with lots of wrong 
impressions, people who don’t know what “blind” means, people who think that 
because of that I should not live alone, have ever had a job … 

Annoying to say the least.  I’d dump it except it is the only way a few family 
members communicate, even posting a picture with no description lets me know 
they are alive and posting!  

 

 

Rose Combs

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A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

Indeed. Their Facebook accessibility team is pretty good with getting back to 
you also. Check out the link below as you can report a bug on the link found on 
that webpage.

https://www.facebook.com/help/141636465971794/

You may also want to follow their Facebook accessibility fan page.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

Wow. Thank you very much for the reply. I guess we need to make some noise  
order to make this a little more accessible. :-)

Sent from my iPhone 6!


On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi, you can no longer do this on the Facebook pages app as it is not accessible 
with voiceover. I have also try to look at this information in the past using 
the Safari browser on my iPhone with the mobile version of Facebook with  no 
luck. I have also had no luck accessing my Facebook fan page with the Safari 
browser using the desktop  site.

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

Hi there,

 

Let’s see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.

 

In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook Page for 
my music band.  Pages are a little different from the personal accounts.  I 
downloaded the facebook Pages app and use it on the iPhone with minimal 
problems. 

On this page, it says that I have 173 “likes.”  I’d like to know how I can find 
out who has “liked” our page so far.  There used to be a way a while back, and 
although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a way.  However, I can no 
longer remember what that was and would like to know if anyone on this list can 
help me.

 

Thanks again for any help!

Jim

 

 

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RE: ADT pulse app update has broken accessibility

[Juan Mojena]

Does anyone have experience with ADT?  Is the ADT app accessible?   is it 
possible to change settings using the ADT website with Safari or a screen 
reader on a computer?   


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Subject: ADT pulse app update has broken accessibility

Hello all, if you have not updated to the latest version of the ADT pulse app, 
I would recommend not to. So far it seems very inaccessible. If this is 
different for any of you please let me know how you have worked around it.

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Re: please I am in trouble

[ruby alphonse]

yes, I have tried that too, it stays clear for sometime and goes back
to a kind of shaky and stammering.

On 11/13/15, Kimber Gardner  wrote:
> Have you tried rebooting the phone?
>
> On 11/13/15, ruby alphonse  wrote:
>> Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
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RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

[Rose Combs]

If the Facebook Accessibility team are so good, why is Facebook such a mess to 
work in full page, mobile site and on the iPhone?  There a lot of questions on 
my part, not the least part why I am unable to fix errors on my profile page, 
errors FB made, collecting items from friends I have on FB and putting their 
info in my profile.  I can’t fix it, my late husband could not fix it, it 
appears that using a screen reader it can’t be done.  That is a major for me 
since lately I have been getting friend requests with lots of wrong 
impressions, people who don’t know what “blind” means, people who think that 
because of that I should not live alone, have ever had a job … 

Annoying to say the least.  I’d dump it except it is the only way a few family 
members communicate, even posting a picture with no description lets me know 
they are alive and posting!  

 

 

Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

Indeed. Their Facebook accessibility team is pretty good with getting back to 
you also. Check out the link below as you can report a bug on the link found on 
that webpage.

https://www.facebook.com/help/141636465971794/

You may also want to follow their Facebook accessibility fan page.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

Wow. Thank you very much for the reply. I guess we need to make some noise  
order to make this a little more accessible. :-)

Sent from my iPhone 6!


On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:

Hi, you can no longer do this on the Facebook pages app as it is not accessible 
with voiceover. I have also try to look at this information in the past using 
the Safari browser on my iPhone with the mobile version of Facebook with  no 
luck. I have also had no luck accessing my Facebook fan page with the Safari 
browser using the desktop  site.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 4:57 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

Hi there,

 

Let’s see if I can explain my question so that it makes sense.

 

In addition to my personal facebook account, I have a public facebook Page for 
my music band.  Pages are a little different from the personal accounts.  I 
downloaded the facebook Pages app and use it on the iPhone with minimal 
problems. 

On this page, it says that I have 173 “likes.”  I’d like to know how I can find 
out who has “liked” our page so far.  There used to be a way a while back, and 
although it was a bit challenging to get to, I found a way.  However, I can no 
longer remember what that was and would like to know if anyone on this list can 
help me.

 

Thanks again for any help!

Jim

 

 

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Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

[Colin McDonald]

I’m sorry you are having trouble with it, but both are very easy to do even 
with the mobile version of the facebook site.
Posting is about as easy as it can get with the IPhone app, but updating your 
profile has to be done on a computer either via the m.facebook.com site or the 
desktop site.
It’s not really difficult to figure out if you just familiarize yourself with 
it.
I use facebook for work and personal, everyday, with my IPhone using VO and my 
PC using JAWS and there is nothing I can’t do on facebook.
It can seem a bit overwhelming, especially the desktop site because of all the 
headings and stuff they cram on there, but if you use the mobile site on your 
computer, it is far simpler.  Also, adding people to your close friends list 
puts them into your notifications feed which makes browsing recent status 
updates and reading comments far easier and simpler.
Does it read your mind to know what you want and how you want it, no lol, but 
you can customize your experience quite easily.

Regards
Colin
From: Rose Combs 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

Hover, Ug!  Not helpful.  

I sure wish they would make it easier to post, easier to fix profile … 

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Colin McDonald
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

I find using the FB app on my phone, the mobile site on my pc, and the regular 
desktop site, while blowted, all work quite well.

If you don’t like facebook that’s something else entirely, but it’s not 
inaccessible.

Now, if FB would just breakdown and allow for RSS feeds of pages and groups, an 
easy way to select all your friends for events and invites then we’d be 
laughing.

>From what I remember, you have to use the desktop facebook site, and when you 
>access your page, you can find out who has liked your page via one of the 
>hover menus...remember guys, the facebook app is designed as a simplified, 
>dumbed down version of the site and does not offer all the features and 
>functions of the desktop site.

Especially when you need to access detailed information or make very specific 
setting changes, you do have to use the main desktop website and not the app or 
mobile version of the site.

 

Regards

Colin

From: Rose Combs 

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:55 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

If the Facebook Accessibility team are so good, why is Facebook such a mess to 
work in full page, mobile site and on the iPhone?  There a lot of questions on 
my part, not the least part why I am unable to fix errors on my profile page, 
errors FB made, collecting items from friends I have on FB and putting their 
info in my profile.  I can’t fix it, my late husband could not fix it, it 
appears that using a screen reader it can’t be done.  That is a major for me 
since lately I have been getting friend requests with lots of wrong 
impressions, people who don’t know what “blind” means, people who think that 
because of that I should not live alone, have ever had a job … 

Annoying to say the least.  I’d dump it except it is the only way a few family 
members communicate, even posting a picture with no description lets me know 
they are alive and posting!  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Facebook Pages app and working with a page on iPhone

 

Indeed. Their Facebook accessibility team is pretty good with getting back to 
you also. Check out the link below as you can report a bug on the link found on 
that webpage.

https://www.facebook.com/help/141636465971794/

You may also want to follow their Facebook accessibility fan page.

Regards,

Feliciano

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On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:

  Wow. Thank you very much for the reply. I guess we need to make some noise  
order to make this a little more accessible. :-)

  Sent from my iPhone 6!


  On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
wrote:

Hi, you can no longer do this on the Facebook pages app as it is not 
accessible with voiceover. I have also try to look at this information in the 
past using the Safari browser on my iPhone with the mobile version of Facebook 
with  no luck. I have also had no luck accessing my Facebook fan page with 

Re: having trouble finding translation

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Patti,

I am going to have to agree with Scott Davert.  He is correct.  Please read 
his response to your  post.


Respectful,

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- 
From: Patti Johnson

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words
auto translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my
display output.  Should I have screen input the same?
I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no 
translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using 
UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice 
on this screen is Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've 
chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.


For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's 
no translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, 
you can use it and contracted braille in any edit field.


I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to 
turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english 
ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do 
something first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I 
am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the 
updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my 
typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall 
using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I 
could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both have the most 
recent updates.

Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of 
Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a 
braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and 
six-dot.


Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is 
english, united kingdom english and ueb.

I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 
and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure 
out if its set to auto.

I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am 
having

is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in 
the

at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

I didn't kow that, thanks.
And once again I appreciate the help and apologize for taking up so much 
of your time.

I will try not to do that again.
Patti

On 11/13/2015 1:43 PM, Scott Dollar wrote:

Hi Patti,

You can sign up a special training at your local Apple store for one 
one time  a month for the full one year.  Apple is happy to help with 
you.


Good luck.

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- From: Patti Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Yes it makes sense, and I am thrilled to report that I got accomplished
what I have been trying to do since I bought my ipad.
I can't believe I was just not getting this.  I guess it takes a hammer
to my head sometimes to get through to me!  Thanks for all your patience
and putting up with me.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Patti,

How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your 
braille display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you 
type is translated. And whether auto-translation is on or not is 
irrelevant if you're using uncontracted 8-dot braille because there 
is no translation when you use that setting. The only thing 
auto-translation does is, if you type some text and haven't pressed 
Space or Enter, if it's on, the text will be translated after a 
couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will only be translated if 
you press Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I hope that makes sense.


Best,
Anna


On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words 
auto translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot 
for my display output.  Should I have screen input the same?

I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, 
with no translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated 
braille, using UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've 
chosen). The final choice on this screen is Automatic Braille 
Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.


For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose 
uncontracted 8-dot braille and type the login using computer 
braille. That way, there's no translation involved. Once you have a 
feel for how translation works, you can use it and contracted 
braille in any edit field.


I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson 
 wrote:


Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option 
to turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me 
english ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere 
else, should I do something first to see where it says something 
about Auto translation?  I am sorry to appear so dense, but I have 
had nothing but trouble since the updates, getting input to work 
on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even 
put my typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting 
anywhere, especiall using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my 
creditentials for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on 
the ipad, and both have the most recent updates.

Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input 
section of Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime 
you are using a braille input mode that involves translation, 
i.e., contracted and six-dot.


Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson 
 wrote:


But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see 
is english, united kingdom english and ueb.

I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be 
dot 4 and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't 
figure out if its set to auto.

I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text 
before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter 
the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille 
translation.

with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess 

Re: having trouble finding translation

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 braille), 
uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no translation), 
and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using UEB or English Grade 
2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice on this screen is 
Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot 
braille.

For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's no 
translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, you can 
use it and contracted braille in any edit field.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to turn it 
> off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
> I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english ueb 
> and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do something 
> first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I am sorry to 
> appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the updates, 
> getting input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
> I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my 
> typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall 
> using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I 
> could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both have the most recent 
> updates.
> Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
> I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.
> 
> Patti
> 
> On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hi Patti,
>> 
>> The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of 
>> Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a 
>> braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
>>> united kingdom english and ueb.
>>> I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
>>> If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 
>>> 46 respectively?
>>> so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out 
>>> if its set to auto.
>>> I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:
 Hi Patty.
 If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
 hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
 symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
 with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.
 
 Scott
 
 On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
> whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
> is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
> character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
> at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
> and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
> Patti
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Re: problem with voice dream

[don bishop]

Hi Anna,
Yes, I did clear out the app switcher and also did a restart of the phone. 


Don 

- Original Message -
From: Woody Anna Dresner  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2015 10:31 am
Subject: Re: problem with voice dream

>
>
> Hi Don,
> 
> I've had no trouble using Voice Dream Reader with an iPHOCbi'ne 6s Plus. Have 
> you restarted your phone recently? If not, I would suggest trying that. 
> YOCbi'u might want to clear out the app switcher before restarting your phone.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:06 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm using an iphone 6 so plus running ios9.1. 
> > Having a problem with voice dream. It crashed whenever I tried to run it. I 
> > uninstalled and reinstalled and it worked perfectly the first time I ran 
> > it. 
> > However, every time I have tried it since then, the program crashes. 
> > Anyone else having this problem? 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Don
> > 
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Scott Dollar]

Hi Patti,

You can sign up a special training at your local Apple store for one one 
time  a month for the full one year.  Apple is happy to help with you.


Good luck.

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- 
From: Patti Johnson

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Yes it makes sense, and I am thrilled to report that I got accomplished
what I have been trying to do since I bought my ipad.
I can't believe I was just not getting this.  I guess it takes a hammer
to my head sometimes to get through to me!  Thanks for all your patience
and putting up with me.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Patti,

How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your braille 
display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you type is 
translated. And whether auto-translation is on or not is irrelevant if 
you're using uncontracted 8-dot braille because there is no translation 
when you use that setting. The only thing auto-translation does is, if you 
type some text and haven't pressed Space or Enter, if it's on, the text 
will be translated after a couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will 
only be translated if you press Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I 
hope that makes sense.


Best,
Anna


On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words auto 
translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my 
display output.  Should I have screen input the same?

I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no 
translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using 
UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final 
choice on this screen is Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if 
you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.


For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose 
uncontracted 8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. 
That way, there's no translation involved. Once you have a feel for how 
translation works, you can use it and contracted braille in any edit 
field.


I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to 
turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me 
english ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, 
should I do something first to see where it says something about Auto 
translation?  I am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but 
trouble since the updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter 
which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put 
my typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, 
especiall using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials 
for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both 
have the most recent updates.

Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section 
of Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using 
a braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and 
six-dot.


Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote:


But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is 
english, united kingdom english and ueb.

I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 
and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't 
figure out if its set to auto.

I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text 
before

hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am 
having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an 
extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in 
the
at sign and 

Re: problem with voice dream

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Don,

I've had no trouble using Voice Dream Reader with an iPHOne 6s Plus. Have you 
restarted your phone recently? If not, I would suggest trying that. YOu might 
want to clear out the app switcher before restarting your phone.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:06 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> I'm using an iphone 6 so plus running ios9.1. 
> Having a problem with voice dream. It crashed whenever I tried to run it. I 
> uninstalled and reinstalled and it worked perfectly the first time I ran it. 
> However, every time I have tried it since then, the program crashes. 
> Anyone else having this problem? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
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accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i devices

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hello.  I would appreciate hearing from any of you who use apple music in
itunes or on an I device.  What accessibility issues have you encountered??
Has itunes match presented any problems?

 

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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words 
auto translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my 
display output.  Should I have screen input the same?

I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 braille), 
uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no translation), 
and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using UEB or English Grade 
2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice on this screen is 
Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot 
braille.

For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's no 
translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, you can 
use it and contracted braille in any edit field.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to turn it 
off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english ueb 
and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do something 
first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I am sorry to 
appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the updates, getting 
input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my typing keyboard 
on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall using my Ipad.  What 
I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on 
the ipad, and both have the most recent updates.
Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of Braille 
settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a braille input 
mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is english, 
united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 46 
respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure out if 
its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.

Scott

On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
Patti

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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Woody Anna Dresner]

HI Patti,

How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your braille 
display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you type is translated. 
And whether auto-translation is on or not is irrelevant if you're using 
uncontracted 8-dot braille because there is no translation when you use that 
setting. The only thing auto-translation does is, if you type some text and 
haven't pressed Space or Enter, if it's on, the text will be translated after a 
couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will only be translated if you press 
Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I hope that makes sense.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words auto 
> translation, just now.
> I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot for my 
> display output.  Should I have screen input the same?
> I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
> Patti
> On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>> Hi Patti,
>> 
>> Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.
>> 
>> Choose Braille Display Input.
>> 
>> Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1 
>> braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille, with no 
>> translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated braille, using UEB 
>> or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've chosen). The final choice on 
>> this screen is Automatic Braille Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen 
>> uncontracted 8-dot braille.
>> 
>> For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose uncontracted 
>> 8-dot braille and type the login using computer braille. That way, there's 
>> no translation involved. Once you have a feel for how translation works, you 
>> can use it and contracted braille in any edit field.
>> 
>> I hope that's of some help.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option to turn 
>>> it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
>>> I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me english 
>>> ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere else, should I do 
>>> something first to see where it says something about Auto translation?  I 
>>> am sorry to appear so dense, but I have had nothing but trouble since the 
>>> updates, getting input to work on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
>>> I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even put my 
>>> typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting anywhere, especiall 
>>> using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my creditentials for xm and I 
>>> could do it on the phone, but not on the ipad, and both have the most 
>>> recent updates.
>>> Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
>>> I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.
>>> 
>>> Patti
>>> 
>>> On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
 Hi Patti,
 
 The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input section of 
 Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime you are using a 
 braille input mode that involves translation, i.e., contracted and six-dot.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
> On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see is 
> english, united kingdom english and ueb.
> I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
> If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be dot 4 and 
> 46 respectively?
> so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't figure 
> out if its set to auto.
> I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
> Patti
> 
> or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:
>> Hi Patty.
>> If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text before
>> hitting the space bar, press space with dots 4-5. How to enter the @
>> symbol depends on which table you are using for braille translation.
>> with UEB, it's dot 4 and then dot 1.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 11/13/15, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>>> Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or
>>> whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having
>>> is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra
>>> character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the
>>> at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols,
>>> and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?
>>> Patti
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uploading imsg photo attachments to facebook

[don bishop]

Hi all, 
We have gotten some photos sent as attachments in imsgs. How can we save these 
photos and then upload them to facebook? 

Thanks for any guidance in this,
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Re: ADT pulse app update has broken accessibility

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
their web portal is still very accessible. their app has become less so but 
is better than it was in July.  I wouldn't say it's inaccessible merely that 
the interface with its new tiled format is a bit less intuitive but still 
can be dealt with if one must but I myself prefer making changes via the web 
portal into which one can sign in and do such tasks as well.


If you're unhappy with the current form of the app in terms of its 
accessibility do voice your opinions to ADT directly as many others have. I 
hope that helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Juan Mojena

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ADT pulse app update has broken accessibility

Does anyone have experience with ADT?  Is the ADT app accessible?   is it 
possible to change settings using the ADT website with Safari or a screen 
reader on a computer?



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sachin Pavithran

Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 8:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ADT pulse app update has broken accessibility

Hello all, if you have not updated to the latest version of the ADT pulse 
app, I would recommend not to. So far it seems very inaccessible. If this is 
different for any of you please let me know how you have worked around it.


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RE: accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i devices

[Larry Lumpkin]

Thanks so much for your responses so far.  I like classical music, holiday 
music and classic films.  Are any of you who like these genra using apple music 
and/or itunes match and how do you like them?  Thanks.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Billy Maynard
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i 
devices

 

hi,

 

I use apple music and the only problum I relaly find isthat vo forgets the 
roter setting or somethines vo looses focus  on an item (s)  usualy if I'm 
searching for music and the list is very long it's relaly difficult to get to 
the bottom of a lit if the artest I'm looking at has a lot of albums it'll 
loose focus and relaly relaly hard to get tothe last few listings.  

 

Other than that I think it works great. 

 

Sincerely, 

Billy Maynard

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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:36 PM

Subject: accessibility of itunes match and apple music in itunes and i devices

 

Hello.  I would appreciate hearing from any of you who use apple music in 
itunes or on an I device.  What accessibility issues have you encountered??  
Has itunes match presented any problems?

 

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Reclaiming VoiceDream Purchased Voice

[Joe]

Hi, forgive me if this has already been asked, but how do I go about
reclaiming a voice I'd previously purchased for VoiceDream? I seemed to have
lost Julie after transferring iPhones. Thanks in advance!

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RE: Reclaiming VoiceDream Purchased Voice

[Jennie Facer]

Go to settings, voices and then restore purchased voices.

Jenn

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Hi, forgive me if this has already been asked, but how do I go about reclaiming 
a voice I'd previously purchased for VoiceDream? I seemed to have lost Julie 
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Re: Natadmo is working:

[Mike]

Sometimes it does feel like we are always fighting an up hill battle.  
If they could just keep accessibility in mind.  It is like a 
roollercoaster we just have to keep plugging away.


On 11/11/2015 3:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for this, it took me quite a while, but I did finally manage to find it. 
It is, however, at best a pain in the neck and certainly a step back from how 
easy it was before where I could just find the temperature and then swipe right 
to read all the other measurements.
I also don't see the "Indoor Comfort" value any more. Yes, the CO2 level is 
still there, but I always liked how I could quickly see how the app analyzed the indoor 
air quality taking into account temperature, CO2 level, humidity and noise level.
I will definitely take a bit of time today and write to Carlos from Netatmo and 
hopefully they are still committed to keeping the app accessible especially now 
that quite a few people purchased it. They say now that the background of the 
app changes depending on weather and that for sighted people there is an 
indicator as to whether temperature, air pressure and so on are trending up or 
down and it would be nice if they found a way to make this information 
accessible. They did a nice job, but beyond that initial work it feels they 
haven't really done much to improve accessibility.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Natadmo is working:

I just got the new natadmo app, and to get the maximum and minimum temprature, 
you have your finger on the out door or indoor temprature, then tap with 
another finger, and going down just a little bit, the lower is just below the 
temprature, and the high is a little to the right.
At first you might go by it it is a small butten, but it does work.
Mike
KD2CDU

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Iphone 5C and Apex

[Deb Lewis]

Hello:
I support a large number of Iphone users with different models of
phone and different Braille displays. Today I was working with a
client who has a 5C and an Apex Perkins model. In Messages or in the
Contacts app, when he goes to enter a new contact or select from
existing ones, the Braille display locks up. He can't write and he
can't move the display of the Apex. In fact we have to restart it all.
I paired the same Apex with a 5S and all worked perfectly every time
in the Messages and Contacts apps.
Does anyone know if there's an issue with the 5C in particular? I
can't replicate the problem on the 5S, the 6 or the 6S Plus but I
consistently lock up on the 5C. The phone seems to work fine in all
other respects. All the phones have the latest software upgrade, and
all have the same settings for Braille etc.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Deb

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RE: IPhone 5C and Apex

[Rayette Kay Ruckr]

I've never heard of that happening. It could be the phone.

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Subject: Re: IPhone 5C and Apex

No, I don't have access to another 5C. That's why I asked here.

On 11/13/15, Rayette Kay Ruckr  wrote:
> Have you tried it with another iPhone 5C? 
>
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>
> Hello:
> I support a large number of Iphone users with different models of 
> phone and different Braille displays. Today I was working with a 
> client who has a 5C and an Apex Perkins model. In Messages or in the 
> Contacts app, when he goes to enter a new contact or select from 
> existing ones, the Braille display locks up. He can't write and he 
> can't move the display of the Apex. In fact we have to restart it all.
> I paired the same Apex with a 5S and all worked perfectly every time 
> in the Messages and Contacts apps.
> Does anyone know if there's an issue with the 5C in particular? I 
> can't replicate the problem on the 5S, the 6 or the 6S Plus but I 
> consistently lock up on the 5C. The phone seems to work fine in all 
> other respects. All the phones have the latest software upgrade, and 
> all have the same settings for Braille etc.
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Deb
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VoiceOver stuttering [was "Re: please I am in trouble"]

[Christopher Chaltain]

As others have said, try closing the apps in the App Switcher and 
powering off and on your phone. I'd also suggest turning off the 
automatic updating of apps. I noticed that on my 4S, VoiceOver would 
stutter when my apps were being updated, so I changed this to just 
having my apps updated manually. This way I know when I'm using data, 
and can also update my apps when I won't be using my phone so much. I'm 
guessing installing apps is pretty CPU intensive, and maybe you're 
iPhone 5 is struggling to keep up with installing apps in the background 
and generating synthetic speech in the foreground, just like my 4S does.


sOn 11/13/2015 11:51 AM, ruby alphonse wrote:

Hi Kimber, I tried that too, I switched of and started my phone, it
stays very clear for sometimes then when I make about Five or Six
calls or use my braille screne input, then the voice over gets shaky
again and acts funny.it stammers, and I don't understand sometimes
what it says. I am using IPhone 5 and IOS 9.1. any help is
appreciated. Ruby

On 11/13/15, Kimber Gardner  wrote:

Have you tried rebooting the phone?

On 11/13/15, ruby alphonse  wrote:

Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby

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RE: Pluto app on Apple TV?

[Jim Ruby]

I have not found anything yet that offers a variety of channels. I ended up 
installing several apps such as a and e, abc, cbs, fox, nbc, natgeo, usa and a 
few others.


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Subject: Pluto app on Apple TV?

Hello.  There is an app in the Apple TV store called Pluto.  It is supposed to 
have a variety of TV channels for streaming.  Has anybody used this?  To me it 
doesn't seem to be accessible with VoiceOver.  If this can't be used, does 
anybody know of any other apps for streaming a variety of TV channels?
Thanks.


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RE: IPhone 5C and Apex

[Rayette Kay Ruckr]

Have you tried it with another iPhone 5C?   

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Subject: Iphone 5C and Apex

Hello:
I support a large number of Iphone users with different models of phone and 
different Braille displays. Today I was working with a client who has a 5C and 
an Apex Perkins model. In Messages or in the Contacts app, when he goes to 
enter a new contact or select from existing ones, the Braille display locks up. 
He can't write and he can't move the display of the Apex. In fact we have to 
restart it all.
I paired the same Apex with a 5S and all worked perfectly every time in the 
Messages and Contacts apps.
Does anyone know if there's an issue with the 5C in particular? I can't 
replicate the problem on the 5S, the 6 or the 6S Plus but I consistently lock 
up on the 5C. The phone seems to work fine in all other respects. All the 
phones have the latest software upgrade, and all have the same settings for 
Braille etc.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Deb

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Re: IPhone 5C and Apex

[Deb Lewis]

No, I don't have access to another 5C. That's why I asked here.

On 11/13/15, Rayette Kay Ruckr  wrote:
> Have you tried it with another iPhone 5C? 
>
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> Of Deb Lewis
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Iphone 5C and Apex
>
> Hello:
> I support a large number of Iphone users with different models of phone and
> different Braille displays. Today I was working with a client who has a 5C
> and an Apex Perkins model. In Messages or in the Contacts app, when he goes
> to enter a new contact or select from existing ones, the Braille display
> locks up. He can't write and he can't move the display of the Apex. In fact
> we have to restart it all.
> I paired the same Apex with a 5S and all worked perfectly every time in the
> Messages and Contacts apps.
> Does anyone know if there's an issue with the 5C in particular? I can't
> replicate the problem on the 5S, the 6 or the 6S Plus but I consistently
> lock up on the 5C. The phone seems to work fine in all other respects. All
> the phones have the latest software upgrade, and all have the same settings
> for Braille etc.
> Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>
> Deb
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Table index

[Mary Otten]

I wonder if the table index that we see in certain apps, such as the artist 
listing in Apple music, is a voice over feature. I assumed it was part of the 
program. I am asking because it seems to be nowhere present on the android side 
of Apple music, which makes navigating an artist list a major pain in the 
backside. So, the question, is it a VO feature or a feature of the program ?
Mary


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Re: Can't synchronize NOTES between iPhone 6, iPad Air 2 and Mac mini running Yosemite

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Kevin,

My guess is that you chose to upgrade notes on your iOS devices after you 
upgraded to iOS 9. Once you upgrade your Mac to El Capitan, you'll be able to 
upgrade notes there as well, and then they'll sync with your iOS devices again.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 13, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> guys,
> 
> I have a Mac Mini running Yosemite, an iPhone 6 and an iPad 2 Air, or is it 
> an iPad Air 2, both of which run iOS 9.1.  I used to have synchronized NOTES 
> apps on my iPhone and Mac Mini where I could start a NOTE on one device and 
> finish it on another.  this was before I acquired the iPad.  
> 
> Currently, my NOTES synch automatically between my two iOS devices.  but my 
> NOTES app on my Mac doesn’t seem to have any of the notes I’ve written on 
> either of the other two devices after September of this year.  that probably 
> corresponds to updating to iOS 9 or 9.1.  Not sure.  
> 
> I’m guessing that there’s a setting in iCloud Preferences on the Mac which is 
> not set correctly, since I did have notes synchronized up to a point.  Can 
> someone tell me where, and on what device, to check for settings?
> 
> thanks,
> Kevin
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Re: Pluto app on Apple TV?

[Ryan Mann]

I've played with it a little more on the Apple TV.  I managed to pick a channel 
and play it.  I think I had to tap a couple times and a channel started 
playing.  Then I hit the Back button and then started flicking down. Each time, 
I flicked down, VoiceOver said a different channel name. Then I tapped.  After 
the channel started, I had to turn off VoiceOver so it would stop talking.  I'm 
glad I figured out how to play a channel, but the accessibility definitely 
needs improvement.  Is this an Apple accessibility problem or a Pluto problem?


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:27 PM, John Diakogeorgiou  
> wrote:
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> I found it to be done what accessible on the phone but not at all on the tv.
> 
> John Diakogeorgiou
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jim Ruby  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not found anything yet that offers a variety of channels. I ended up 
>> installing several apps such as a and e, abc, cbs, fox, nbc, natgeo, usa and 
>> a few others.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Pluto app on Apple TV?
>> 
>> Hello.  There is an app in the Apple TV store called Pluto.  It is supposed 
>> to have a variety of TV channels for streaming.  Has anybody used this?  To 
>> me it doesn't seem to be accessible with VoiceOver.  If this can't be used, 
>> does anybody know of any other apps for streaming a variety of TV channels?
>> Thanks.
>> 
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purchased renewing subscriptions

[don bishop]

Could someone please remind me where I can find a list of services I'm 
subscribed to? This is ios9.1. 


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Blind square

[david gross]

Speech very slow since last app update. 
Have reinstalled, no change.
Using Iphone 6 plus.
Suggestions?

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Can't synchronize NOTES between iPhone 6, iPad Air 2 and Mac mini running Yosemite

[Kevin Gibbs]

guys,

I have a Mac Mini running Yosemite, an iPhone 6 and an iPad 2 Air, or is it an 
iPad Air 2, both of which run iOS 9.1.  I used to have synchronized NOTES apps 
on my iPhone and Mac Mini where I could start a NOTE on one device and finish 
it on another.  this was before I acquired the iPad.  

Currently, my NOTES synch automatically between my two iOS devices.  but my 
NOTES app on my Mac doesn’t seem to have any of the notes I’ve written on 
either of the other two devices after September of this year.  that probably 
corresponds to updating to iOS 9 or 9.1.  Not sure.  

I’m guessing that there’s a setting in iCloud Preferences on the Mac which is 
not set correctly, since I did have notes synchronized up to a point.  Can 
someone tell me where, and on what device, to check for settings?

thanks,
Kevin

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Re: Pluto app on Apple TV?

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I found it to be done what accessible on the phone but not at all on the tv.

John Diakogeorgiou

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Jim Ruby  wrote:
> 
> I have not found anything yet that offers a variety of channels. I ended up 
> installing several apps such as a and e, abc, cbs, fox, nbc, natgeo, usa and 
> a few others.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Pluto app on Apple TV?
> 
> Hello.  There is an app in the Apple TV store called Pluto.  It is supposed 
> to have a variety of TV channels for streaming.  Has anybody used this?  To 
> me it doesn't seem to be accessible with VoiceOver.  If this can't be used, 
> does anybody know of any other apps for streaming a variety of TV channels?
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: having trouble finding translation

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't think you have any reason to apologize Patti. You didn't take up 
too much of my tiem. IMHO, no one should make you feel like you need to 
apologize like this on the list. If someone doesn't want to help they 
always have the delete key. IMHO, the list should always be a safe place 
for people to ask questions.


On 11/13/2015 12:58 PM, Patti Johnson wrote:

I didn't kow that, thanks.
And once again I appreciate the help and apologize for taking up so much
of your time.
I will try not to do that again.
Patti

On 11/13/2015 1:43 PM, Scott Dollar wrote:

Hi Patti,

You can sign up a special training at your local Apple store for one
one time  a month for the full one year.  Apple is happy to help with
you.

Good luck.

Scott Dollar


-Original Message- From: Patti Johnson
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: having trouble finding translation

Yes it makes sense, and I am thrilled to report that I got accomplished
what I have been trying to do since I bought my ipad.
I can't believe I was just not getting this.  I guess it takes a hammer
to my head sometimes to get through to me!  Thanks for all your patience
and putting up with me.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 1:32 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

HI Patti,

How you have output set depends on what you want to see on your
braille display. It has no effect on what you type or how what you
type is translated. And whether auto-translation is on or not is
irrelevant if you're using uncontracted 8-dot braille because there
is no translation when you use that setting. The only thing
auto-translation does is, if you type some text and haven't pressed
Space or Enter, if it's on, the text will be translated after a
couple of seconds. If it's off, the text will only be translated if
you press Space, Enter, or Space with dots 4-5. I hope that makes sense.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 13, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Patti Johnson 
wrote:

Hi Anna.  I swear on my life, it is the first time I saw those words
auto translation, just now.
I promise I'm not making that up.  I turned it on and chose 8 dot
for my display output.  Should I have screen input the same?
I am so sorry to be such a stupe.
Patti
On 11/13/2015 12:49 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

Go to Settings/General/VoiceOver/Braille.

Choose Braille Display Input.

Your choices should be Uncontracted 6-dot braille (which is Grade 1
braille), uncontracted 8-dot brialle (which is computer braille,
with no translation), and Contracted Braille (which is translated
braille, using UEB or English Grade 2 or whichever code you've
chosen). The final choice on this screen is Automatic Braille
Translation. It is dimmed if you've chosen uncontracted 8-dot braille.

For typing in a login, you're probably best off if you choose
uncontracted 8-dot braille and type the login using computer
braille. That way, there's no translation involved. Once you have a
feel for how translation works, you can use it and contracted
braille in any edit field.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Patti Johnson
 wrote:

Thanks, Anna, but again, I don't see where it gives you the option
to turn it off or on, I don't see the words auto translation.
I am looking at Braille input.  Under translation it just give me
english ueb and united kingom.  Should I be looking somewhere
else, should I do something first to see where it says something
about Auto translation?  I am sorry to appear so dense, but I have
had nothing but trouble since the updates, getting input to work
on My Focus, no matter which input I use.
I wonder if it's the display itself, but it worked before. I even
put my typing keyboard on "nothing".  I am still not getting
anywhere, especiall using my Ipad.  What I want to do is enter my
creditentials for xm and I could do it on the phone, but not on
the ipad, and both have the most recent updates.
Could it be that app doesn't work on the ipad any more?
I'm jsut frustrated, I'm sorry.

Patti

On 11/13/2015 12:24 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Patti,

The auto-translation setting is in the Braille Display Input
section of Braille settings. If you turn it on, it works anytime
you are using a braille input mode that involves translation,
i.e., contracted and six-dot.

Best,
Anna




On Nov 13, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Patti Johnson
 wrote:

But I'm not seeing any setting for auto translation, all I see
is english, united kingdom english and ueb.
I don't see anywhere it says auto translation.
If I have it set to English, would the at and period symbols be
dot 4 and 46 respectively?
so do I hit the space bar or space bar dots 4 5, because I can't
figure out if its set to auto.
I am sorry to be so dense but I swear I don't see that anywhere.
Patti

or On 11/13/2015 12:05 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi Patty.
If you have auto translation set to off, to translate the text
before
hitting the space bar, 

Re: Blind square

[Mike Arrigo]

I had this when I launched the app, changed it in teh app settings and it’s 
fine now.
> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:10 PM, david gross  wrote:
> 
> Speech very slow since last app update. 
> Have reinstalled, no change.
> Using Iphone 6 plus.
> Suggestions?
> 
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RE: please I am in trouble

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pushing home and power together is forcing the phone to reboot. Just turning it 
off and on would be the first thing I do, but before I would make sure all apps 
are closed from the app switcher. If that doesn't work, what Rob described may 
help and if that doesn't help I would once again make sure all apps are closed, 
then go to Settings > General > Reset and select to Reset Network Settings.
my first 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH.
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please I am in trouble

I suggest you shut it down the official way by holding Home and Power together 
until it shuts down.  Leave it a minute, then hold Power for a few seconds to 
get it to start up again.

I know myold iPad Mini gets the crackles sometimes and have to shut it off to 
recover.
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Subject: please I am in trouble


Hello all, voice over just stammers each time I have to press ten
times or more the power button to get the voice over speaking clearly.
I am using Iphone 5 please if anyone can help me I would be very
grateful and appreciate it. Thank you in advance, Ruby

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having trouble finding translation

[Patti Johnson]

Thanks, Scott, that is what i did, but didn't find continuous or 
whatever it says.  But I guess it works.  The other problem I am having 
is when I put in my password and then hit space, it gives it an extra 
character.  and no matter which output I use, when i try to put in the 
at sign and period on my email address it gives it different symbols, 
and extra letters.  I f eel so stupid, why can't I do this right?

Patti

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RE: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

[Nicki keck]

You cannot view flash content or listen to flash content with the Firefox IOS 
version can you?  I know you can't with safari or chrome, but I heard of some 
browser that does have the ability but Iheard it from a sighted user so didn't 
know if it would be accessible.

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TaraPrakash
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Subject: Re: Firefox has now come to iOS and is accessible

anything that firefox does better than Safari? I wish it can let you save files 
for offline listening or viewing. 
(Aside) is there a shortcut key for replying to emails when using bluetooth 
keyboard?)


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> On Nov 12, 2015, at 5:20 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Evening all
> 
> Subject says it, Firefox has come to iOS and is accessible with 
> VoiceOver with a minor issue or few along with some nice tweaks. 
> Please check out the entry at www.applevis.com I tried it, and like it.
> 
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Re: Pet simulation games

[Trea Abma]

What is hachi? I get 14 results in the appstore and don't know what to 
look for. Sounds interesting.


On 11/13/2015 3:00 AM, Rayette Rucker wrote:

Does anyone know of any pet simulation games for the iPhone besides Hachi?

Rayette



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Re: Pet simulation games

[MamaPeach]

It is listed as Hatchi - A Retro Virtual Pet and the developer is Portable 
Pixels


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What is hachi? I get 14 results in the appstore and don't know what to
look for. Sounds interesting.

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Does anyone know of any pet simulation games for the iPhone besides Hachi?

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Re: trying to find tranlation

[Scott Davert]

Hi patty.
automatic braille translation doesn't have to do with the language, it
has to do with whether the translation occurs on a slight delay, or
only after you press the spacebar. Find it under
settings/general/accessibility/voiceOver/Braille/Braille display
input.

Scott

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> I am only seeing three suggestions for setting up translations for
> braille displays to devices; english, ueb or united kingdom english.
> where is the automatic translation?
> Patti
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