Re: Sonos

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Awww I’m excited for you. Do report back and let us know how you get on with 
it.  good luck and happy listening. Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Thanks, I think I will go ahead and order the Play 5. Once I get it all set up 
and learn how to use it, I can begin adding speakers, etc. I am excited to get 
started.
Marie



From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Hi Marie,

 

As Robin said, even the current, newest Play 5 still has the 3.5mm line-in so 
hooking up anything like a Plextalk, VictorReader Stream or even a CD player is 
no problem. If you ha multiple Sonos Players whatever you connected to that 
Play 5 would also be available on all other Sonos Players.

I think the Play 5 is probably more versatile than the Playbar, it really is 
meant to be a TV speaker.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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Re: Sonos

[Marie]

Thanks, I think I will go ahead and order the Play 5. Once I get it all set up 
and learn how to use it, I can begin adding speakers, etc. I am excited to get 
started.
Marie



From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Hi Marie,

 

As Robin said, even the current, newest Play 5 still has the 3.5mm line-in so 
hooking up anything like a Plextalk, VictorReader Stream or even a CD player is 
no problem. If you ha multiple Sonos Players whatever you connected to that 
Play 5 would also be available on all other Sonos Players.

I think the Play 5 is probably more versatile than the Playbar, it really is 
meant to be a TV speaker.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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Re: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Les Kriegler]

Eva, you hijack this thread. I am most lost messages that I wish to say because 
of that. Fortunately, there have been additional message is regarding Sonus 
that I am able now to keep. Please change the subject line if you want to 
discuss something else.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:55 PM, Eva Abbas  wrote:
> 
> Hello listers,
>  
> I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
> there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
> used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in 
> whatsapp, we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is 
> Doug Lee for skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and 
> voiceover?
> Thanks for any answer
>  
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RE: Whatsapp and voiceover

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, Doug Lee is a scrit writer who writes scripts for Jaws, there is no 
provision for scripts in Voiceover.

What exactly is the problem with Whats App, I recently used it and it seems to 
work just fine and I didn’t encounter any accessibility issues.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eva Abbas
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:55 PM
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Subject: Whatsapp and voiceover

 

Hello listers,

 

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?

Thanks for any answer

 

God bless
Eva
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The way you live it is your gift to God

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RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marie,

 

As Robin said, even the current, newest Play 5 still has the 3.5mm line-in so 
hooking up anything like a Plextalk, VictorReader Stream or even a CD player is 
no problem. If you ha multiple Sonos Players whatever you connected to that 
Play 5 would also be available on all other Sonos Players.

I think the Play 5 is probably more versatile than the Playbar, it really is 
meant to be a TV speaker.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.

do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie   

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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RE: sound hound vs shazam?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Arnold,

What exactly do you mean by "it is unable to do it if I am listening via my 
phone's speaker"?
I just played Maggie May by Rod Stewart on my Sonos system in the bedroom. I 
asked SIRI "What song is this", SIRI said "OK, let me listen" and it made the 
beeps again when it's listening and after about 3 or 4 seconds it said "I'm 
pretty sure this is Maggie May by Rod Stewart, but please don't ask me to sing 
it".

Now, there is some inconsistency here because a while back I asked SIRI what 
song was playing and it would persistently tell me the song that was queued up 
to play on my iPhone instead of going into listening mode so it could listen to 
music externally. 
Today when I just did this I started playing Hotel California on my iPhone and 
then I asked SIRI again and each time no matter how I asked SIRI would start 
listening wanting to tell me what song it heard instead of telling me what was 
currently playing on my phone. I even asked "What song is currently playing on 
my iPhone" and all to no avail.
I find SIRI does really well identifying songs that are playing externally, but 
I should still be able to ask SIRI what is playing on my phone, too. This is 
just one more example showing on the one hand how smart SIRI can be but also 
how dum and limited it ccan be. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 4:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: sound hound vs shazam?

And, I have observed it work the other way, too.  Unfortunately though, there 
have been more times when neither of them knew what the song was. 
When this happened, the skeptic in me wondered if they both used the same 
database? I hope not.]  And if that be true, I am sure neither would admit it.

One more reason to have at least one of these apps on your phone:  When I ask 
Siri to identify a song, it is unable to do it if I am listening via my phone's 
speaker.  Both the apps can identify a song when it is playing through the 
phone's speaker.

Arnold Schmidt
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To: 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: sound hound vs shazam?


> Hi,
>
> There have been times when Shazam didn't identify something and Sound 
> Hound did, so I would recommend having Sound Hound as a backup.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
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>> thanks man :)
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RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Ron,

 

It is hard to say if you would find it sounds as good. Playbars in my opinion 
do sound differently than a set of good speakers connected to a good amplifier 
and sitting 8 feet apart. Having a Sonos Playbar with Sub and rear surrounds 
does sound great, just a Playbar by itself definitely won’t give you as good of 
a soundstage and probably not as good as a base. For me having less clutter and 
less cables still with very good sound for about $2,000 Canadian was worth it 
since I also have my 20-year old, but still very high-end system with Sonic 
Frontiers tube amp and digital-analogue converter, custom-built speakers and 
subwovers in a separate room in the basement so if I really want to listen to 
pure music I go there. But even there the source of the music is a $400 Sonos 
Connect and no longer the $2,500 Sonic Frontiers CD Transport. I think 
especially in a smaller apartment a Sonos Playbar/Sub/Play 1 surround setup 
would sound more than good, but the only one who can decide this is yourself.

 

As for hooking up a CD player to the Playbar that is not directly possible or 
maybe I should say it is possible if your CD player has an optical output and 
you don’t mind unplugging the TV and plugging in the CD Player. The Playbar has 
a single optical input and is designed to be hooked up to a TV and of course 
most TV’s have multiple HDMI, optical and analogue inputs, but that also means 
your TV would have to be on if your CD player was connected via the TV.

Having said that, I haven’t use a CD player in 6 or 7 years since once I got my 
Sonos system I ripped all my CD’s to a network attached hard drive in lossless 
FLAC format. The whole point of Sonos is that you access your music digitally 
from your computer’s library or of course you access all the online content 
from Tune In, iHeart (free) or tons of other paid services like Spotify, 
Deezer, Tidal, Apple Music, Google Music and many more. As far as I am 
concerned the days of hooking up all these sources like CD Player, a turn 
table, maybe some sort of digital music player and so on are past. I probably 
haven’t bought a CD in years because nowadays if I really want to buy music I 
buy it on iTunes but lately I’m rarely even doing that because I have an Apple 
Music subscription so I can access anything iTunes has anytime I want.

 

The Playbar is approx. 37 inches long, maybe 8 inches tall and 3 inches thick. 
As Les pointed out, it has 9 speakers with a couple firing off to the sides, 
others are firing up and so on. You can read the exact configuration with 
respect to how many are tweeters, how many are mid-range drivers etc. on the 
Sonos website. The Playbar can sit flat or it can be mounted under the TV so 
the approx. 8 inches are the height, the 37 inches always is of course the left 
to right and the 3 inches is how thick it is front to back if it is mounted 
under the TV.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Sieghard,

 

I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the difference 
in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you well said, is 
not very accessible at all except for basic functions.

 

For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? 
Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in time, 
I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 2 
medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of space. 
I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so that the 
TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. Would it go 
into the Sonos Playbar?

 

A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then use 
it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very small so I’m 
wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.

I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
listen.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Ron,

 

What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system is 
and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 which at 
the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did exactly what 
you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear in-ceiling 
speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving in and I 
ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers and I have 
never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two front 

Whatsapp and voiceover

[Eva Abbas]

Hello listers,

I hope everybody is doing well.  I have a question for you please.  Is 
there a specialist who takes care of voiceover and the applications that are 
used by iPhone such as whatsapp?  Every time we install an update in whatsapp, 
we have a difficulty with voiceover.  For example, I know there is Doug Lee for 
skype and JAWS.  Is there someone similar for whatsapp and voiceover?
Thanks for any answer

God bless
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Re: Sonos

[Marie]

Yes it does and thanks.
Marie


From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Hi,
Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.
do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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Re: Sonos

[Terje Strømberg]

I just got the answer about backup of playlists online. They have never heard 
about such plans for now or in the future. Just rumors.

Take care

12. mars 2016 kl. 01:13 skrev Brett :


Awesome! Glad to hear this is going to be usable by us. It does make a big 
difference to sound quality and it did frustrate me that I couldn't use it 
myself. I move my players arround regularly and as soon as you unplug the 
player, true tuning is lost. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 11 Mar 2016, at 11:56 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

> Sieghard,
> 
> Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 
> 3 and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.
> 
> The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
> of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
> the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its 
> very nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from 
> yours truly!!!
> 
> Best.
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.neilbarnfather.com
> Business Consultant & Disability Advocate
> 
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> selection of business consultancy functions to a complete series of 
> disability advocacy roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most 
> successful disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled 
> spokesperson.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
>> earlier.
>> Marie
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Re: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for it.

[englishrider91]

My biggest issue, and this may have changed with the later model of the griffin 
survivor cases is that when you put them in The clip, axis to the charging cord 
is completely blocked. I liked the OtterBox defender cases as well, but I've 
heard that the model for the 6S and 6S plus have quality issues. If you want a 
case with the belt clip, where the screen can face out, you may want to take a 
look at this. I'm not sure if they have it in the plus size, but it's worth 
looking.
iPhone 6S (2015 Release) BallisticSHIELD Armor Slim Case & Belt Clip - Blue 
(Quick-release holster design) [Encased Lifetime Guarantee]  


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 12:04 PM, MamaPeach  wrote:
> 
> The otterbox defender cases are great but there is also the Griffin Survivor 
> cases that are very well constructed. I have had both, but I do prefer to 
> Griffin. Here it is at Amazon:
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPQGNHC?keywords=griffin%20survivor%20case=1457726453_=sr_1_1=8-1
>  
> From: Kevin Minor
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> for it.
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> Hi.
>  
> I’ve been a happy iPhone user since May 2009.  I’ve gone from a 3gs to 4, to 
> 5c, and finally to a 6s plus.  Each phone has been a little different, but 
> I’ve learned about them.  I’m looking for information on the 6s plus, in 
> order to use it more effectively.  Anybody know of a good resource to learn 
> about it?
>  
> Also, I’m looking for a good protective case for my new iPhone.  I’ve been a 
> happy user of the Otterbox Defender case, and I’m leaning toward that one.  
> If anybody knows of a better case, I’d be interested.
>  
> Thanks in advance for any information.
>  
> Have a blessed day.
>  
> GO CATS!
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Re: sound hound vs shazam?

[Arnold Schmidt]

And, I have observed it work the other way, too.  Unfortunately though, 
there have been more times when neither of them knew what the song was. 
When this happened, the skeptic in me wondered if they both used the same 
database? I hope not.]  And if that be true, I am sure neither would admit 
it.


One more reason to have at least one of these apps on your phone:  When I 
ask Siri to identify a song, it is unable to do it if I am listening via my 
phone's speaker.  Both the apps can identify a song when it is playing 
through the phone's speaker.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Woody Anna Dresner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: sound hound vs shazam?



Hi,

There have been times when Shazam didn't identify something and Sound 
Hound did, so I would recommend having Sound Hound as a backup.


Best,
Anna



On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:45 PM, trahern culver  
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thanks man :)

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Re: Sonos

[Brett]

Awesome! Glad to hear this is going to be usable by us. It does make a big 
difference to sound quality and it did frustrate me that I couldn't use it 
myself. I move my players arround regularly and as soon as you unplug the 
player, true tuning is lost. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 11 Mar 2016, at 11:56 PM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 
> 3 and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.
> 
> The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
> of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
> the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its 
> very nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from 
> yours truly!!!
> 
> Best.
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.neilbarnfather.com
> Business Consultant & Disability Advocate
> 
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> selection of business consultancy functions to a complete series of 
> disability advocacy roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most 
> successful disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled 
> spokesperson.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
>> earlier.
>> Marie
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Re: what can I do or is my home button just broken

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi,

I'm almost certain you shouldn't be in the market for a new phone. If
the same thing is happening when you use a bluetooth keyboard &
braille display we can rule out a hardware issue with the home button,
but I admit that it does sound weird. It's a bit of a pain to do, but
at this stage I'd be considering starting completely fresh - E.G.
erasing the phone via iTunes, manually transfering your music over and
manually downloading all the apps you require. Don't just restore the
phone from an iCloud backup.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 3/11/16, joseph hudson  wrote:
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>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Eden  wrote:
>>
>> Well I'm beginning to think I need a new phone. It is not under warranty
>> as it was bought used. The issue I am having is this that hitting the home
>> button or using a braille display and or bluetooth keyboard, half the time
>> or even more than half I have to hit it more than ence and sometimes I
>> totally have to reset the phone to get back to the homescreen. Am I in the
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Re: Sonos

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Ah and that my friend you can have with a Play:5 first or 2nd generation.  As I 
said it does have an auxiliary input jack so have patch cord and your wish is 
their command.  You merely select line in source in the app and you can start 
it playing.  All you need to do is plug it into one speaker and away you go. If 
it’s part of a stereo pair grouping the audio will then come out of both 
speakers seamlessly.
I hope that helps.
Robin


From: Marie 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.
do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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Re: Sonos

[Marie]

Actually I meant that I wanted an input jack rather than output. My bad! I want 
to be able to plug in a PlexTalk or Stream if possible. this is not totally 
essential but would be nice.
do you still thin a good starting point is the Play5 or would the play bar be a 
better beginning?Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Sonos

Just one thing I’d like to add and that is that there is a tuning option to 
optimize the Play 5 to a particular room. Sonos calls this “TruePlay” but if 
you want to do this you will need sighted help, it is not accessible if 
Voiceover is running.

 

Also, FYI, while the new Play 5 has no longer a headphone jack, it is supposed 
to sound much better than the older ones.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

Yes and yes. Set up is a breeze and poses no problems for blind or visually 
impaired users no matter which model you get in my experience. Once your 
library is indexed by the sonos system then you could play anything you might 
have in terms of sound files from your computer.

the only difference between first and 2nd generation play:5 for instance is the 
location of the button you press to initiate its detection by the system.  In 
first gen it’s on top of the unit whereas in the newer 2nd generation it’s on 
the back of the unit.  It’s nearly flush with the back of the unit but still 
detectable by touch once you know to look for it.  I don’t think you’d have any 
trouble should you choose to try one; and the Play:5 still has the auxiliary 
input jack as well.  I just thought I’d mention that.

 

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:19 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Other than that, is the new one as easy to set up and use as the previous 
model? Also is it easy to stream from your computer over wifi?

Thanks, Marie

 

 

From: Robin Frost 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:27 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi,

It is true that it hasn’t a headphone jack in the 2nd generation which to me 
wasn’t a huge loss as it was formerly located on the back of the unit making it 
difficult to access anyway.

I hope that helps.

Robin

 

 

From: Marie 

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:49 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Sonos

 

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.

Marie

 

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Re: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for it.

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Griffin Survivors do bulk up phones a great deal though.  I've had them, but 
finally swapped out in favour of Otterbox on my 5S.  5S 
is as far as I've got so far.
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The otterbox defender cases are great but there is also the Griffin Survivor 
cases that are very well constructed. I have had both, 
but I do prefer to Griffin. Here it is at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPQGNHC?keywords=griffin%20survivor%20case=1457726453_=sr_1_1=8-1

From: Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:05 PM
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Subject: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for 
it.

Hi.



I’ve been a happy iPhone user since May 2009.  I’ve gone from a 3gs to 4, to 
5c, and finally to a 6s plus.  Each phone has been a 
little different, but I’ve learned about them.  I’m looking for information on 
the 6s plus, in order to use it more effectively. 
Anybody know of a good resource to learn about it?



Also, I’m looking for a good protective case for my new iPhone.  I’ve been a 
happy user of the Otterbox Defender case, and I’m 
leaning toward that one.  If anybody knows of a better case, I’d be interested.



Thanks in advance for any information.



Have a blessed day.



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Re: Sonos

[Les Kriegler]

I ordered my play bar and sub from Summers directly. They have a 45 day return 
policy. Also, they threw in a Sonos bridge at no charge. This plugs in to an 
existing router so that you can set up your Sonos system on it's own network.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:14 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> Bose, who is now a manufacturer I really like, seems to have quite a generous 
> returns policy. Buy your Bose product, and if you're not happy within 30 days 
> you can request a no quibbles refund and they will even collect the returning 
> product at your disposal.
>> On 11 Mar 2016, at 20:06, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Listen before you buy. Or be sure to have a return policy. This is true with 
>> all audio hifi gear.
>> 
>> I heard rumors that Sonos was looking at developing an online backup 
>> solution of playlists made within the Sonos app. From for example Tidal, 
>> Spotify and apple music and hard drive into a single playlist in the Sonos 
>> app. A backup in «my account» in Sonos online. Have this happened yet?
>> 
>> It is possible to use a play1, 3 or 5 as a backup if you don’t reset one of 
>> theese. Choose connect to excisting network after reset of a device. Did not 
>> get an answer about online backup from support. Therefore, i ask here.
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 11. mars 2016 kl. 20:12 skrev Les Kriegler :
>> 
>> Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you 
>> that the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that 
>> I use Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my 
>> understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Sieghard,
>>> 
>>> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the 
>>> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you 
>>> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
>>> 
>>> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is 
>>> it? Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, 
>>> in time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega 
>>> speakers, 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes 
>>> a lot of space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound 
>>> system so that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get 
>>> an Apple TV. Would it go into the Sonos Playbar?
>>> 
>>> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still 
>>> working very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect 
>>> and then use it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very 
>>> small so I’m wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
>>> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
>>> listen.
>>> 
>>> Ron & Danvers
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Sonos
>>> 
>>> Hi Ron,
>>> 
>>> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha 
>>> system is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 
>>> 2009 which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I 
>>> did exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two 
>>> rear in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up 
>>> caving in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear 
>>> speakers and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space 
>>> since my two front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a 
>>> huge receiver sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my 
>>> store and there is a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that 
>>> Sonos is fully accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of 
>>> switching inputs and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality 
>>> was not accessible.
>>> 
>>> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d 
>>> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying 
>>> a Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as 
>>> surround.
>>> 
>>> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
>>> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be 
>>> that the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 
>>> 5 jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into 
>>> stereo mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a 
>>> reseller that sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a 

Re: Sonos

[christopher hallsworth]

Hi

Bose, who is now a manufacturer I really like, seems to have quite a generous 
returns policy. Buy your Bose product, and if you're not happy within 30 days 
you can request a no quibbles refund and they will even collect the returning 
product at your disposal.
> On 11 Mar 2016, at 20:06, Terje Strømberg  wrote:
> 
> Listen before you buy. Or be sure to have a return policy. This is true with 
> all audio hifi gear.
> 
> I heard rumors that Sonos was looking at developing an online backup solution 
> of playlists made within the Sonos app. From for example Tidal, Spotify and 
> apple music and hard drive into a single playlist in the Sonos app. A backup 
> in «my account» in Sonos online. Have this happened yet?
> 
> It is possible to use a play1, 3 or 5 as a backup if you don’t reset one of 
> theese. Choose connect to excisting network after reset of a device. Did not 
> get an answer about online backup from support. Therefore, i ask here.
> 
> Take care
> 
> 11. mars 2016 kl. 20:12 skrev Les Kriegler :
> 
> Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you 
> that the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that 
> I use Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my 
> understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the 
>> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you 
>> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
>> 
>> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is 
>> it? Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, 
>> in time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega 
>> speakers, 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a 
>> lot of space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound 
>> system so that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an 
>> Apple TV. Would it go into the Sonos Playbar?
>> 
>> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
>> very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then 
>> use it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very small so I’m 
>> wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
>> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
>> listen.
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Sonos
>> 
>> Hi Ron,
>> 
>> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system 
>> is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 
>> which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did 
>> exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear 
>> in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up 
>> caving in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear 
>> speakers and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space 
>> since my two front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge 
>> receiver sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my store 
>> and there is a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos 
>> is fully accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of 
>> switching inputs and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality 
>> was not accessible.
>> 
>> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d 
>> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying 
>> a Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as 
>> surround.
>> 
>> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
>> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
>> the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 
>> jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo 
>> mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that 
>> sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a 
>> set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the 
>> bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you 
>> would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.
>> 
>> Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able 
>> to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few 
>> years.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 

FW: Would you like Great Deal for iPhone Cases

[Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)]

Hello this came through to the list some time ago. Not sure what the cases are 
like but you can check it out.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tony Guan
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 2:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Would you like Great Deal for iPhone Cases

Hello

I would like to recommend TaiMarket.com  which has 
many great deals for iPhone Cases. If you are interested, please feel free to 
visit online store TaiMarket.com.

Thank you
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Re: Sonos

[Terje Strømberg]

Listen before you buy. Or be sure to have a return policy. This is true with 
all audio hifi gear.

I heard rumors that Sonos was looking at developing an online backup solution 
of playlists made within the Sonos app. From for example Tidal, Spotify and 
apple music and hard drive into a single playlist in the Sonos app. A backup in 
«my account» in Sonos online. Have this happened yet?

It is possible to use a play1, 3 or 5 as a backup if you don’t reset one of 
theese. Choose connect to excisting network after reset of a device. Did not 
get an answer about online backup from support. Therefore, i ask here.

Take care

11. mars 2016 kl. 20:12 skrev Les Kriegler :

Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you that 
the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that I use 
Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my 
understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:

> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the 
> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you 
> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
>  
> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? 
> Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in 
> time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 
> 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of 
> space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so 
> that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. 
> Would it go into the Sonos Playbar?
>  
> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
> very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then 
> use it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very small so I’m 
> wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
> listen.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi Ron,
>  
> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system 
> is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 
> which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did 
> exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear 
> in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving 
> in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers 
> and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two 
> front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver 
> sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my store and there is 
> a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully 
> accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs 
> and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.
>  
> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d 
> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a 
> Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.
>  
> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
> the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 
> jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo 
> mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that 
> sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a 
> set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the 
> bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you 
> would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.
>  
> Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able 
> to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few 
> years.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ron Pelletier
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi you two Sonos Experts,
>  
> I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
> woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first 
> get a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get 

Re: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for it.

[MamaPeach]

The otterbox defender cases are great but there is also the Griffin Survivor 
cases that are very well constructed. I have had both, but I do prefer to 
Griffin. Here it is at Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LPQGNHC?keywords=griffin%20survivor%20case=1457726453_=sr_1_1=8-1

From: Kevin Minor 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for 
it.

Hi.

 

I’ve been a happy iPhone user since May 2009.  I’ve gone from a 3gs to 4, to 
5c, and finally to a 6s plus.  Each phone has been a little different, but I’ve 
learned about them.  I’m looking for information on the 6s plus, in order to 
use it more effectively.  Anybody know of a good resource to learn about it?

 

Also, I’m looking for a good protective case for my new iPhone.  I’ve been a 
happy user of the Otterbox Defender case, and I’m leaning toward that one.  If 
anybody knows of a better case, I’d be interested.

 

Thanks in advance for any information.

 

Have a blessed day.

 

GO CATS!

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: Trivia Crack / Kingdoms

[MamaPeach]

There is not an option to remove ads in Kingdoms. I posted a review on the app 
store saying that that should be an option but so far, you can’t purchase to 
remove them.
I haven’t had the problem that you described, but I haven’t upgraded to the 
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Re: what can I do or is my home button just broken

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I definitely think that you were in the market for a new phone for sure.
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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:55 AM, Eden  wrote:
> 
> Well I'm beginning to think I need a new phone. It is not under warranty as 
> it was bought used. The issue I am having is this that hitting the home 
> button or using a braille display and or bluetooth keyboard, half the time or 
> even more than half I have to hit it more than ence and sometimes I totally 
> have to reset the phone to get back to the homescreen. Am I in the market for 
> a new phone or can it be saved? 
> Eden
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Re: Has anyone tried using the GrubHub app lately

[Brian Fischler]

I have been in touch with Grubhub via Twitter as since the major redesign of 
the app a few months the accessibility of the app keeps getting worse and 
worse. They claimed they were going to fix heading navigation so you could 
quickly flick through from cuisine to cuisine and from restaurant to restaurant 
instead of having to flick right 5 times to get from one restaurant to the 
next. It sucks they have not fixed this yet. I was able to roll back the app 
and have not updated it, will tweet them again.
> On Mar 8, 2016, at 4:43 AM, Ted Filteau  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have experienced this behavior on grubhub, but not with most orders.  
> My sighted wife could order from the problem place so it looks like it is 
> related to voiceover and the grubhub app.
> 
> One can sure spend money using that app.
> Ted 
> 
> 
> At 12:16 AM 3/8/2016, you wrote:
>> It seems that though they have updated, they still have the problem we're by 
>> if you choose a menu item with in a restaurant, at least I, get booted out 
>> of the app and back into the folder where I have it. I have tried 
>> communicating about this with them,. they claim that they have replied, 
>> though I haven't gotten any of the replies because they're not realizing 
>> that their emails haven't gone out to my Comcast address. It is really 
>> ridiculous.
>> 
>> Someone on here said that they have become a part of something called 
>> seamless: is anyone who uses the seamless app having the same problem? 
>> Thanks.
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Re: Sonos

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I will let the experts answer most of your questions. I can tell you that 
the AppleTV will work with Sonos play bar. I was told to make sure that I use 
Dolby Digital for this to work. As far as speakers are concerned, my 
understanding is at the play bar contains nine speakers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Ron Pelletier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
>  
> I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the 
> difference in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you 
> well said, is not very accessible at all except for basic functions.
>  
> For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? 
> Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in 
> time, I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 
> 2 medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of 
> space. I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so 
> that the TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. 
> Would it go into the Sonos Playbar?
>  
> A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
> very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then 
> use it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very small so I’m 
> wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.
> I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
> listen.
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi Ron,
>  
> What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system 
> is and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 
> which at the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did 
> exactly what you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear 
> in-ceiling speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving 
> in and I ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers 
> and I have never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two 
> front speakers are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver 
> sitting on it and I am now using that Connect player at my store and there is 
> a lot less cable. Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully 
> accessible whereas my Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs 
> and basic functions, but a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.
>  
> If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d 
> say go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a 
> Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.
>  
> Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
> really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
> the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 
> jumped up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo 
> mode for less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that 
> sells Sonos and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a 
> set of Play 3 to decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the 
> bedroom you wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you 
> would have to re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.
>  
> Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able 
> to buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few 
> years.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Ron Pelletier
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi you two Sonos Experts,
>  
> I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
> woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first 
> get a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos 
> speaker or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily 
> be brought on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.
>  
> What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a 
> little off.  
>  
> Ron & Danvers
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sonos
>  
> Hi Jonathan,
>  
> First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
> definitely is awesome.
>  
> As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 

RE: Sonos

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Sieghard,

 

I did not read yet about the playbar. Can you give me an idea of the difference 
in sound I would have against my high end Yamaha which, as you well said, is 
not very accessible at all except for basic functions.

 

For instance, could I plug in my CD player into the playbar? How large is it? 
Does it include speakers. I have now moved to a smaller apartment and, in time, 
I would like to modernize and go smaller. I have 2 large Rega speakers, 2 
medium size Mission speakers and a subwover and all that takes a lot of space. 
I have to say that my set-top box is plugged into my sound system so that the 
TV sounds very good. In time, I would also like to get an Apple TV. Would it go 
into the Sonos Playbar?

 

A lot to think about. My sound system is about 8 years old and still working 
very well for now. Would it be a waste for now to get the Connect and then use 
it later on as you are using yours?My bedroom is very small so I’m 
wondering if the Play1 speakers would be enough.

I guess I’ll have to find a Sonos dealer in Montreal to see if I can go and 
listen.

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Ron,

 

What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system is 
and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 which at 
the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did exactly what 
you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear in-ceiling 
speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving in and I 
ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers and I have 
never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two front speakers 
are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver sitting on it and I 
am now using that Connect player at my store and there is a lot less cable. 
Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully accessible whereas my 
Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs and basic functions, but 
a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.

 

If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d say 
go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a 
Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.

 

Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 jumped 
up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo mode for 
less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that sells Sonos 
and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a set of Play 3 to 
decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the bedroom you 
wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you would have to 
re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.

 

Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able to 
buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few years.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi you two Sonos Experts,

 

I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first get 
a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos speaker 
or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily be brought 
on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.

 

What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a 
little off.  

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
definitely is awesome.

 

As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 
and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But 
considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between 
$300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who 
wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it 
also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.

When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then 
were 

RE: Bose Bluetooth speaker

[Rose Combs]

Sure!  Not interested in spending time on phone and would use cell which would 
be no help! 


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker

Maybe if you call Bose they could help you figure it out.

On 3/11/16, Rose Combs  wrote:
> I don’t know the model!
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
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> which speaker is it?
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:59 PM
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> Subject: Bose Bluetooth speaker
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> I somehow disconnected my Bose Bluetooth speaker, tried to reconnect 
> with no luck, probably because I pushed an incorrect button, I’d like 
> it to work again!  Can someone tell me which buttons I need to use to 
> reconnect this please?  It was done at the store in October 2014 and 
> never had a problem until today.  Plugged in, battery was well earlier.
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> Thanks in advance.  Alone, so no eyes to help me!
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Re: Sonos

[Robin Frost]

Hi Neil,
I’ve written this privately in the past but would also like to take this 
opportunity to thank you publically for all your hard work with sonos which 
helped to bring it to the point of great accessibility we experience and enjoy 
today. I like to be appreciative and take the time to express gratitude 
whenever I can. so thanks to you Sieghard and all others who contribute to our 
great sonos experience.
I recently had occasion to contact Sonos for support and I couldn’t have had a 
better experience both via twitter and via phone.  My issue was resolved in 
short order and perhaps rivaled only by Apple the experience and my value as a 
customer which was communicated was bar-none and excellent all around.
My best wishes to those impacted by the recent lay-offs at Sonos and hopes 
going forward that products and service and support won’t be compromised.  I’ve 
every reason to believe their standards will be maintained.
Robin


From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

Sorry, to anyone reading that on list, to be 100% clear, true Play tuning is 
not accessible to Voice Over users who are using the public release of the App, 
as many of you know, I work with Sonos privately, so, I just wanted to reasure 
folk, True Play will be accessible with Voice Over likely in the next public 
update of the software, as I can see nothing wrong with the latest rework that 
we’ve just finished doing.

Neil Barnfather MBE
www.neilbarnfather.com
Business Consultant & Disability Advocate

Visit my web-site to learn more about my range of services covering a selection 
of business consultancy functions to a complete series of disability advocacy 
roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most successful disabled 
entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled spokesperson.



  On 11 Mar 2016, at 12:56, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
wrote:

  Sieghard, 

  Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 
3 and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.

  The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its very 
nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from yours 
truly!!!

  Best.
  Neil Barnfather MBE
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disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled spokesperson.



On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie  wrote:

I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were 
complaints that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the 
impressions that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in 
the newer model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought 
one earlier.
Marie


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Re: Sonos

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Jonathan says:
“Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.”
I wholeheartedly concur with this turn of phrase and find myself saying it 
often too. It was fun to read someone expressing the same sentiment.
Robin

From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Sonos

While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. 
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged 
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You 
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we 
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround 
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so 
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily 
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there. 
Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.

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  On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

  Hi Marie,
   
  Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they 
really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a 
separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3 
years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are 
many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and 
considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few 
years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there 
could be either one of two products or both:
  one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500 
to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I think a 
product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price point and 
one where they could really make it sound awesome.
  The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would 
be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable 
battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the product 
that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and it would 
allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a cheap $20 
pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably 
about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or 
$500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos were to make 
only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more 
flexibility with headsets users already own.
   
   
  Regards,
  Sieghard
   
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Sonos
   
  I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions that 
it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer model. 
This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one earlier.
  Marie
   
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RE: What's the difference between Trekz and Bluez?

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi Krister,

I can't tell you exactly the difference yet as, my Blues 2 broke under warranty 
and, rather than just having it replaced, I opted to upgrade to the Trekz.

I talked to a couple of people at Aftershokz and it seems to be agreed that the 
Treck is lighter, sturdier  has more bass and less sound bleeding, and is a 
better fit for the average person. . My trekz, as I am tracking it, has cleared 
canadian customs and now is close to home and I probably will have it on 
Monday's delivery so I will be able to tell you more about it.   

Ron & Danvers

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What's the difference between Trekz and Bluez?

Hi,
I’m pondering getting an Aftershokz headset, however i want to know the 
difference between the Trekz Titanium and the Bluez 2 S. If it’s just the 
titanium head band thingy that’s the difference then i may opt to go for the 
Bluez. Could anyone please explain the difference?
/Krister

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If You Use Yahoo Fantasy Do Not Sign Out

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I know some of you use the Yahoo Fantasy app, and wanted to warn you do not 
sign out of your account or you will not be able to log back in. I discovered 
this last night as I had to help my Dad sign up, and the password field is no 
longer accessible in any way with or without a bluetooth keyboard. Yahoo is 
aware of the issue so hopefully it will be fixed soon. Just wanted to give you 
a heads up.

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RE: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for it.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Kevin,

 

Given the already large size of the iPhone 6S Plus, I tried to find a case that 
doesn’t add a lot of bulk. I decided to go with a case from a company called 
Evutec. Here is a brief description from their website:

 

We’ve combined the strength of DuPont™ Kevlar® fibers with the beauty and 
sleekness of a case so thin, it may as well be a skin.

 

Basically you get the protection of Kevlar combined with wood finishes which 
are super-thin veneers of bamboo, ebony, white ash etc. The cases are very 
well-made and in my opinion provide a lot of protection, but they aren’t cheap, 
I paid $60 Canadian for mine. You can check out the company site at 
www.evutec.com   and you can find them on Amazon as well.

 

Keep in mind that these are not belt clip cases and I combined my Evutec case 
with an over-size leather case with swivel belt clip which is big enough to 
hold my iPhone 6S Plus with the Evutec case on. This way I can use a belt clip 
case but I can also just put the phone in a jacket pocket if I don’t want to 
have a case on my hip.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Minor
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for 
it.

 

Hi.

 

I’ve been a happy iPhone user since May 2009.  I’ve gone from a 3gs to 4, to 
5c, and finally to a 6s plus.  Each phone has been a little different, but I’ve 
learned about them.  I’m looking for information on the 6s plus, in order to 
use it more effectively.  Anybody know of a good resource to learn about it?

 

Also, I’m looking for a good protective case for my new iPhone.  I’ve been a 
happy user of the Otterbox Defender case, and I’m leaning toward that one.  If 
anybody knows of a better case, I’d be interested.

 

Thanks in advance for any information.

 

Have a blessed day.

 

GO CATS!

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Trivia Crack / Kingdoms

[NIMAS]

For those of you who play Trivia Crack and Trivia Crack Kingdoms, I’ve got a 
couple of questions.

 

First, In Trivia Crack, you can go into settings, select “Upgrade” and buy an 
ad-free version. This option does not seem to appear in Kingdoms. If it’s 
there, where is it? Those ads get to be quite annoying after awhile.

 

Second, Sometimes, while playing Kingdoms, touching the area immediately under 
“Play Now” which is usually where your turns are listed dumps you out of the 
game and back to your home screen. The game does not close, however, since you 
can find it and enter it again through the ap switcher. Has anybody else 
experienced this? I am using the current version of the game on a 5C.

 

Thanks.

 

Darrin

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Hi Bill. Are you gonna use services like On Demand or My SXM? If not, I suggest 
that you try Radium for Sirius XM. It's a lot more accessible than the native 
app.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:

 

Okay, Juliet and all.  

 

I’ve upgraded to all access so I can use the Sirius-XM iPhone app.  I know I 
can log in.  

 

Now how do I find channels and programs?  

 

The screen is so confusing trying to figure out how to make it work with 
VoiceOver on my 5S.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Juliette Swiler
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Speaking of Sirius XM, I know at one time I found an audio captcha on their 
site to help to log in. But the last couple of times I tried logging on, there 
was no audio captcha to be found. I wish they would have left things well 
enough alone. Now I can’t log in to make changes to my account unless I have 
sighted help or call them. At least the online player for listening to on 
demand content is now accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac. That is one of my 
favorite aspects of the service. So if I miss a show, I can catch it later.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:14 PM, BBS <  
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill. The best way to find out if you have All Access is to call them. Then 
you can ask how much it’ll cost to have All Access.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Outman
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:00 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Hi, Juliet.  

 

Thanks to you and the other responder for input.  

 

That’s what I’m concerned about, what level of subscription I have, and whether 
it will cost more to be able to use the app if I need to make a change.  

 

My current subscription rolls over in a couple months for the next year, and 
I’m trying to make sure I have enough money cleared so the card it’s billed to 
doesn’t reject it.  

 

I’m hoping I already have the sufficient level of service I need to make it 
work.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:09 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

I just switched my subscription to the all access plan. The app works well with 
VoiceOver.

Juliette


On Mar 7, 2016, at 9:28 PM, BBS <  
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Bill. Maybe call Sirius XM and find out what package you have. If you have 
the All Access Package, you can listen to Sirius XM on your home radio and on 
the app. But if you don’t have All Access, you’ll only be able to listen to it 
on your home radio. Also, I recommend using Radium for online listening to 
Sirius XM. It’s a lot more accessible than the native app if you don’t need on 
demand programming and My SXM.

 

 

Shawn

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Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 

RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Les,

 

Yes, you’ll love the setup and I know you’ll order a set of Play 1 as rear 
speakers, it really completes this set up and makes a big difference for movies 
as well as music listening. I am usually a bit of a purist when it comes to 
music and very much in the stereo camp, but the way Sonos handles music with a 
Playbar, Sub and two Play 1 speakers is indeed very nice.

 

Also, keep in mind that there are companies which make various wall-mounting 
brackets for Play 1, Play 3 and even Play 5 players and there are wall-mount 
and TV mounts for the Playbar. Some of them get very expensive, but they are 
very nice and it makes for a very nice, clean look. I had a custom wrought-iron 
shelf/rack made for my TV and my 40 inch Sony LCD TV is mounted in that with a 
wall-mount. I was able to take off the base it sat on before and the guy who 
made the rack made me a custom setup for my Playbar which has two posts which  
go into the 2 square holes where the stand was attached so my Playbar is 
mounted right underneath the TV and flush with the front of the TV. All cables 
are pretty much hidden behind and I made a shelf out of solid walnut which sits 
in a frame above the TV and which holds my satellite receiver, Apple TV and 
blueray player. The very top of that rack which is about 5 and a half feet tall 
has another solid walnut shelf which is for nicknacks and decorations.

 

 

Take care,

Siegard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Les Kriegler
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

Hi Jonathan,

Well you guys have really made me excited about all of this. After reading so 
many positive comments about the Sonos system, I just order the play bar and 
sub for our living room. I have an orderly speakers yet, but I'm sure that will 
happen. My unit should be arriving today. I'm really looking forward to the 
excellent sound I expect to receive.


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Mosen  > wrote:

While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. 
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged 
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You 
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we 
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround 
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so 
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily 
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.

Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

 

Hi Marie,

 

Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they 
really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a 
separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3 
years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are 
many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and 
considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few 
years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there 
could be either one of two products or both:

one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500 
to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I think a 
product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price point and 
one where they could really make it sound awesome.

The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would 
be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable 
battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the product 
that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and it would 
allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a cheap $20 
pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably 
about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or 
$500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos were to make 
only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot more 
flexibility with headsets users already own.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From:   

Looking for info on the iPhone 6s plus, and a good protective case for it.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

I've been a happy iPhone user since May 2009.  I've gone from a 3gs to 4, to 
5c, and finally to a 6s plus.  Each phone has been a little different, but I've 
learned about them.  I'm looking for information on the 6s plus, in order to 
use it more effectively.  Anybody know of a good resource to learn about it?

Also, I'm looking for a good protective case for my new iPhone.  I've been a 
happy user of the Otterbox Defender case, and I'm leaning toward that one.  If 
anybody knows of a better case, I'd be interested.

Thanks in advance for any information.

Have a blessed day.

GO CATS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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RE: Wifi connect speed

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Hi,

Thanks but no.  Speedtest tells the internet connection speed to the best 
closest server.  That isn’t what I’m looking for.  I want to know the speed 
that my iPhone connects to a local router.

Thx -Steve

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Wifi connect speed

 

I use Speedtest. It’s fully accessible. It should  be one of the  first results 
if you  search  for it in the app store

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wifi connect speed

 

Hi All,

Anyone know of an app for the iPhone that will tell us the connection speed 
from the router we are connected to?  Windows will tell us that we are 
connected to (ssid) name connection speed …

I’m trying to find an ios app that will give me the same information.

 

Thanks all -Steve

 

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RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Ron,

 

What you describe will work fine. The question is how old your Yamaha system is 
and your end goal. I bought a high-end Sony surround receiver in 2009 which at 
the time was $1,500 and since I already had a Sonos Connect I did exactly what 
you are planning to do. I had two front, a centre and two rear in-ceiling 
speakers hooked up, but no Subwover. 3 years ago I ended up caving in and I 
ordered a Playbar, Sonos Su and 2 Play 1 speakers as rear speakers and I have 
never looked back. My living room gained more space since my two front speakers 
are gone, my TV/stereo shelf doesn’t have a huge receiver sitting on it and I 
am now using that Connect player at my store and there is a lot less cable. 
Also, there is of course the fact that Sonos is fully accessible whereas my 
Sony receiver was useable in terms of switching inputs and basic functions, but 
a lot of advanced functionality was not accessible.

 

If you aren’t planning to get rid of your Yamaha receiver and speakers I’d say 
go for the Connect, but if it’s an older system you may consider buying a 
Playbar instead of a Connect and later add a Sub and two Play 1 as surround.

 

Using a Play 3 or Play 5 in the bedroom is of course a great idea, here you 
really have to decide how much you can and want to spend. It used to be that 
the Play 1, 3 and 5 were $199, $299 and $399 US, but now the new Play 5 jumped 
up to $499 so you could buy a set of Play 1 and put them into stereo mode for 
less than a single Play 5. You should maybe go to a reseller that sells Sonos 
and listen to a single Play 5 as well as a set of Play 1 and a set of Play 3 to 
decide. Of course if you set up two Play 1 or Play 3 in the bedroom you 
wouldn’t want to take one of them outside since each time you would have to 
re-establish the stereo pairing which maybe a bit of a pain.

 

Just remember that Sonos is extremely flexible and while you may not be able to 
buy all you would like all at once, you can just add to it over a few years.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ron Pelletier
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi you two Sonos Experts,

 

I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first get 
a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos speaker 
or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily be brought 
on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.

 

What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a 
little off.  

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
definitely is awesome.

 

As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 
and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But 
considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between 
$300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who 
wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it 
also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.

When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then 
were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had 
those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. 
The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it 
then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am 
convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to 
release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a 
soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that 
I am not the only one asking for  it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service 
guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty 
regular bases and you find stuff like “ 
 Dear Sonos, 
please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for  it.

 

What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my 
Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they 
still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s 
nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over 
time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop 
was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. 

RE: Wifi connect speed

[Cristóbal]

I use Speedtest. It’s fully accessible. It should  be one of the  first results 
if you  search  for it in the app store

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sweeney
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wifi connect speed

 

Hi All,

Anyone know of an app for the iPhone that will tell us the connection speed 
from the router we are connected to?  Windows will tell us that we are 
connected to (ssid) name connection speed …

I’m trying to find an ios app that will give me the same information.

 

Thanks all -Steve

 

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RE: Sonos

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi you two Sonos Experts,

 

I have a good Yamaha sound system in my living room with 4 speakers  and 
woofer. Since I am on a limited budget, my thinking is that I should first get 
a Sonos Connect to get the sound into that system and then get a Sonos speaker 
or two for my bedroom. One of these speakers, I guess, could easily be brought 
on my patio on a nice day until I can afford an outdoors speaker.

 

What do you think of my reasoning and, please make suggestions if its is a 
little off.  

 

Ron & Danvers

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos

 

Hi Jonathan,

 

First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
definitely is awesome.

 

As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 
and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But 
considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between 
$300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who 
wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it 
also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.

When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then 
were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had 
those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. 
The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it 
then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am 
convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to 
release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a 
soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that 
I am not the only one asking for  it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service 
guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty 
regular bases and you find stuff like “ 
 Dear Sonos, 
please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for  it.

 

What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my 
Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they 
still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s 
nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over 
time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop 
was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. It was I 
think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which acted as a 
stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have mine but of 
course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to invest in a 
30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone connected I have a 
RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my bedroom and I just plug 
it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I have an Airport Express 
connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add Airplay to my Sonos 
system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very few items of criticism, 
I think at least the new players that were releaed in the last few years should 
have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3 
and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack.

 

OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. 
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged 
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You 
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we 
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround 
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so 
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily 
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.

Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

 

Hi Marie,

 

Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
say is to call 

Wifi connect speed

[Steve Sweeney]

Hi All,

Anyone know of an app for the iPhone that will tell us the connection speed
from the router we are connected to?  Windows will tell us that we are
connected to (ssid) name connection speed .

I'm trying to find an ios app that will give me the same information.

 

Thanks all -Steve

 

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Re: I'm really enjoying my new iPhone 6s plus, and I'm learning how valuable Siri is.

[Leo Bado]

Oh yes!
I know exactly how you feel. It's pretty awsome!



El 11/03/2016 a las 07:54 a.m., Gerardo Corripio escribió:

Wow Kevin
Good luck in your adventures with your new toy! and yes Siri 
definitely can be very useful!


El 11/03/2016 07:51 a.m., Kevin Minor escribió:


Hi.

This message serves two purposes.  First, Christmas came yesterday 
for me.  I am now the proud owner of a gold 128 GB iPhone 6s plus.  
It took some time to get up and running, and I did have a bit of 
trouble restoring things to my preferences, but I have it pretty well 
to my liking.  I downloaded the Alex voice, and it sounds great to 
me.  Other than the NFL Mobile app not working, all is well.  I 
upgraded from an 8 GB 5c to this phone, so I’ll have plenty of space 
on it for whatever I like.


Now for the second part of this note, and it shows how handy Siri can 
be.  I need to set this up, so bear with me explaining some things.  
When I set up the iPhone 6s plus, I decided to skip the touch ID 
option.  I then called up AT to activate the phone.  I had some 
trouble entering in the numbers on my 5c, but that’s normal, and I 
hope the larger size of the 6s plus will help.  I was then routed to 
an agent.  He sent me to the wrong web site to activate the phone, 
but in the end I didn’t have to do anything to get it working, 
because AT had all my information on file, so he activated my 
phone.  He told me to turn off both phones, then turn on my new 
phone, and he’d call me to see if it worked.  Well, I followed his 
instructions, and, voila, I got a call from him.  When I got the call 
I saw a message prompting me to enable WI-FI calling.  I don’t know 
what I did, but that message went away.  I decided not to worry about 
it last night, so I went to sleep.  When I woke up this morning, I 
decided to try to set up WI-FI calling.  I looked under settings, but 
the option wasn’t obvious to me. I then tried to call My Apple, but 
their offices were closed.  I then thought, “Why not see if Siri can 
give me some help?  I have nothing to lose, and if she can’t, I can 
always call back for help.”  I asked Siri, “How do I set up WI-FI 
calling?”  I got information on Android phones, so I tried again, 
this time specifying my iPhone type.  Siri now returned some 
information on how to do this.  I followed the instructions, and I 
now have WI-FI calling enabled.


Next, I decided to try to configure the touch ID feature. Again, I 
didn’t see the option in settings, so I figured that if Siri helped 
me once, she could do so again.  I asked her about setting up touch 
ID, and I got good information on how to do this.  Turns out the 
setting is pretty obvious, but I didn’t remember hearing Alex tell me 
about it.  Thanks to Siri, I now have touch ID working on this 
iPhone, and I’m really impressed.  I had a laptop that had this 
option on it, but it was a royal pain to get working.  You had to 
swipe your finger over this sensor, and if you were lucky, the print 
would be recognized.  With the 6s plus, I get almost an immediate 
response from my iPhone.  I like it for its security, and later on 
I’ll configure the Apple Wallet for Apple Pay, but that will have to 
wait until I get that nice thing called money to use it.


My point in sending this note is twofold.  First, I wanted to share 
my experiences with the new iPhone, and second, and more importantly, 
I can’t stress enough to ask Siri for help on something.  That 
technology is amazing!


That’s it for now.  I now am going to sleep a little, waiting for the 
SEC tournament to start.  GO CATS!


Have a blessed day.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: Sonos

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Jonathan,

Well you guys have really made me excited about all of this. After reading so 
many positive comments about the Sonos system, I just order the play bar and 
sub for our living room. I have an orderly speakers yet, but I'm sure that will 
happen. My unit should be arriving today. I'm really looking forward to the 
excellent sound I expect to receive.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
> any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the 
> Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device 
> plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing 
> aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For 
> example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 
> 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos 
> connect as well so I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing 
> aids. But it could easily be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.
> Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
> iPhone. I love this stuff.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org
> 
>> On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>>  
>> Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
>> say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know 
>> they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act 
>> as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the 
>> last 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of 
>> course there are many situations where one would want to listen privately 
>> with a headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on 
>> headsets in the last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on 
>> that bandwagon. I think there could be either one of two products or both:
>> one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
>> course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend 
>> $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I 
>> think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price 
>> point and one where they could really make it sound awesome.
>> The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones 
>> would be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with 
>> rechargeable battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This 
>> would be the product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a 
>> separate player and it would allow users to plug in any headset or 
>> headphones they have from a cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of 
>> Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably about as good as it gets. A 
>> product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or $500 at most if they put 
>> in really good components and if Sonos were to make only one product I hope 
>> it would be this one as it offers a lot more flexibility with headsets users 
>> already own.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Marie
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Sonos
>>  
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
>> earlier.
>> Marie
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RE: Sonos

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jonathan,

 

First of all, welcome to Sonos, I didn’t know you had bought into it, but it 
definitely is awesome.

 

As for the Connect, I understand that I could get any wireless headset setup 
and plug it into the RCA line-out or Optical out on the Connect. But 
considering that most of the wireless headsets I would consider are between 
$300 and $500 I really was waiting for a true Sonos headset. If Somebody who 
wouldn’t normally need a Connect has to buy one just for that purpose then it 
also becomes a pretty expensive headset solution.

When I bought my first Sonos products in 2009 it was 3 Connect Amp which then 
were called ZP120 and 2 Connect which were the ZP90 back then. They only had 
those players then and actually a set of stand-alone bookshelf type speakers. 
The Play 5 which started out as the S5 came I think in 2011 and I bought it 
then. Anyhow, I am still holding out for a native Sonos headset as I am 
convinced it will be coming at some point. My thought is that they do have to 
release a new product sometime and now that they have 3 portable players, a 
soundbar and Sub it must be something they consider especially considering that 
I am not the only one asking for  it. I once talked to a Sonos customer service 
guy and mentioned it and he said he gets people asking for it on a pretty 
regular bases and you find stuff like “ 
 Dear Sonos, 
please make me headphones! | iMore” when you Google around for  it.

 

What I really like about Sonos is the longevity of their products. While my 
Zp120 units are now called Connect Amp and my ZP90 is now the Connect, they 
still are essentially the same units even though mine are now 7 years old. It’s 
nice to see a company that makes some good hardware which is then improved over 
time with software updates. The only Sonos product which was a bit of a flop 
was the 30-Pin dock which they sold back in the iPhone 4/4S days. It was I 
think around $120 at the time and basically was a dock which acted as a 
stand-alone player and it also had a headphone jack. I still have mine but of 
course haven’t used it in many years since I don’t feel I want to invest in a 
30-Pin to Lightning adapter and if I really want my iPhone connected I have a 
RCA to 3.5mm cable plugged into the Connect Amp in my bedroom and I just plug 
it in there, but mostly I just use Airplay since I have an Airport Express 
connected to one of my other Connect Amp units to add Airplay to my Sonos 
system. That, by the way, would be one of my other very few items of criticism, 
I think at least the new players that were releaed in the last few years should 
have built-in Airplay compatibility and all 3 portable players, the Play 1, 3 
and 5 should have a 3.5mm headphone jack.

 

OK, off my soapbox I step since I have to get ready for work *smile*. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos

 

While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. 
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged 
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You 
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we 
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround 
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so 
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily 
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.

Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

 

Hi Marie,

 

Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know they 
really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act as a 
separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 2 or 3 
years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course there are 
many situations where one would want to listen privately with a headset and 
considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the last few 
years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I think there 
could be either one of two products or both:

one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend $500 
to $1,000 or even more on true audio file 

Re: Sirius-XM radio app

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Well, for just listening to the online channels you can use Radium and then 
when you want on demand you can keep the native app.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
> 
> I may use some of the on demand programs occasionally, but I need to get 
> started with the on line channels first.  
>  
> Bill Outman 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Shawn Krasniuk
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app
>  
> Hi Bill. Are you gonna use services like On Demand or My SXM? If not, I 
> suggest that you try Radium for Sirius XM. It's a lot more accessible than 
> the native app.
>  
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>  
>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Bill Outman > > wrote:
>>  
>> Okay, Juliet and all.  
>>  
>> I’ve upgraded to all access so I can use the Sirius-XM iPhone app.  I know I 
>> can log in.  
>>  
>> Now how do I find channels and programs?  
>>  
>> The screen is so confusing trying to figure out how to make it work with 
>> VoiceOver on my 5S.  
>>  
>> Bill Outman 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Juliette Swiler
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Cc: Juliette Swiler
>> Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app
>>  
>> Speaking of Sirius XM, I know at one time I found an audio captcha on their 
>> site to help to log in. But the last couple of times I tried logging on, 
>> there was no audio captcha to be found. I wish they would have left things 
>> well enough alone. Now I can’t log in to make changes to my account unless I 
>> have sighted help or call them. At least the online player for listening to 
>> on demand content is now accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac. That is one 
>> of my favorite aspects of the service. So if I miss a show, I can catch it 
>> later.
>>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:14 PM, BBS >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Bill. The best way to find out if you have All Access is to call them. 
>>> Then you can ask how much it’ll cost to have All Access.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bill Outman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: RE: Sirius-XM radio app
>>>  
>>> Hi, Juliet.  
>>>  
>>> Thanks to you and the other responder for input.  
>>>  
>>> That’s what I’m concerned about, what level of subscription I have, and 
>>> whether it will cost more to be able to use the app if I need to make a 
>>> change.  
>>>  
>>> My current subscription rolls over in a couple months for the next year, 
>>> and I’m trying to make sure I have enough money cleared so the card it’s 
>>> billed to doesn’t reject it.  
>>>  
>>> I’m hoping I already have the sufficient level of service I need to make it 
>>> work.  
>>>  
>>> Bill Outman 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Juliette Swiler
>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:09 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app
>>>  
>>> I just switched my subscription to the all access plan. The app works well 
>>> with VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Juliette
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 9:28 PM, BBS >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Bill. Maybe call Sirius XM and find out what package you have. If you 
 have the All Access Package, you can listen to Sirius XM on your home 
 radio and on the app. But if you don’t have All Access, you’ll only be 
 able to listen to it on your home radio. Also, I recommend using Radium 
 for online listening to Sirius XM. It’s a lot more accessible than the 
 native app if you don’t need on demand programming and My SXM.
  
  
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
 Twitter 

RE: Sirius-XM radio app

[Bill Outman]

I may use some of the on demand programs occasionally, but I need to get 
started with the on line channels first.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Krasniuk
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Hi Bill. Are you gonna use services like On Demand or My SXM? If not, I suggest 
that you try Radium for Sirius XM. It's a lot more accessible than the native 
app.

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Skype username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

 

On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:

 

Okay, Juliet and all.  

 

I’ve upgraded to all access so I can use the Sirius-XM iPhone app.  I know I 
can log in.  

 

Now how do I find channels and programs?  

 

The screen is so confusing trying to figure out how to make it work with 
VoiceOver on my 5S.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Juliette Swiler
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Speaking of Sirius XM, I know at one time I found an audio captcha on their 
site to help to log in. But the last couple of times I tried logging on, there 
was no audio captcha to be found. I wish they would have left things well 
enough alone. Now I can’t log in to make changes to my account unless I have 
sighted help or call them. At least the online player for listening to on 
demand content is now accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac. That is one of my 
favorite aspects of the service. So if I miss a show, I can catch it later.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:14 PM, BBS <  
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

 

Hi Bill. The best way to find out if you have All Access is to call them. Then 
you can ask how much it’ll cost to have All Access.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Outman
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:00 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Hi, Juliet.  

 

Thanks to you and the other responder for input.  

 

That’s what I’m concerned about, what level of subscription I have, and whether 
it will cost more to be able to use the app if I need to make a change.  

 

My current subscription rolls over in a couple months for the next year, and 
I’m trying to make sure I have enough money cleared so the card it’s billed to 
doesn’t reject it.  

 

I’m hoping I already have the sufficient level of service I need to make it 
work.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:09 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

I just switched my subscription to the all access plan. The app works well with 
VoiceOver.

Juliette


On Mar 7, 2016, at 9:28 PM, BBS <  
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Bill. Maybe call Sirius XM and find out what package you have. If you have 
the All Access Package, you can listen to Sirius XM on your home radio and on 
the app. But if you don’t have All Access, you’ll only be able to listen to it 
on your home radio. Also, I recommend using Radium for online listening to 
Sirius XM. It’s a lot more accessible than the native app if you don’t need on 
demand programming and My SXM.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Outman
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 8:50 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Good evening.  

 

I have the Sirius-XM radio app on my iPhone.  

 

I also have a subscription I use on a radio I have at home.  

 

Is there any additional charge for using the app or is it part of my 
subscription already; acquiring the app was free.  

 

How do I do the log in process?  It has a place for email or I. D.  Do I need 
to create a password or do I already have one and don’t know it?  

 

What 

Re: Pilates or yoga apps?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Simply Yoga has a free version and a cheap one, and its yoga workouts are 
described clearly. Pocket Yoga is fully accessible and not very expensive. You 
might need someone to describe a few things, but it's pretty good. It also 
includes a pose dictionary, so you can get detailed descriptions of poses 
you're not sure about.

Best,
Anna



> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:44 PM, R VanLant  wrote:
> 
> I recently had the idea to look for pilates or yoga apps to help me do a home 
> workout.  I found several free ones in the app store to download, most of 
> which seem pretty inaccessible.  One seems to hold some promise, but I have 
> to do in app purchses to get the actual videos, which I have not done yet.  
> Any luck finding free or low cost workout resources that seem accessible?  
> I’d most prefer pilates, having done a pilates class in the past.  I’m not 
> into aerobics, just core strengthening. 
>  
>  
>  
>  
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Re: Sirius-XM radio app

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Bill. Are you gonna use services like On Demand or My SXM? If not, I suggest 
that you try Radium for Sirius XM. It's a lot more accessible than the native 
app.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
> 
> Okay, Juliet and all.  
>  
> I’ve upgraded to all access so I can use the Sirius-XM iPhone app.  I know I 
> can log in.  
>  
> Now how do I find channels and programs?  
>  
> The screen is so confusing trying to figure out how to make it work with 
> VoiceOver on my 5S.  
>  
> Bill Outman 
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Juliette Swiler
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Cc: Juliette Swiler
> Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app
>  
> Speaking of Sirius XM, I know at one time I found an audio captcha on their 
> site to help to log in. But the last couple of times I tried logging on, 
> there was no audio captcha to be found. I wish they would have left things 
> well enough alone. Now I can’t log in to make changes to my account unless I 
> have sighted help or call them. At least the online player for listening to 
> on demand content is now accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac. That is one of 
> my favorite aspects of the service. So if I miss a show, I can catch it later.
>> On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:14 PM, BBS > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Bill. The best way to find out if you have All Access is to call them. 
>> Then you can ask how much it’ll cost to have All Access.
>>  
>>  
>> Shawn
>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Bill Outman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Sirius-XM radio app
>>  
>> Hi, Juliet.  
>>  
>> Thanks to you and the other responder for input.  
>>  
>> That’s what I’m concerned about, what level of subscription I have, and 
>> whether it will cost more to be able to use the app if I need to make a 
>> change.  
>>  
>> My current subscription rolls over in a couple months for the next year, and 
>> I’m trying to make sure I have enough money cleared so the card it’s billed 
>> to doesn’t reject it.  
>>  
>> I’m hoping I already have the sufficient level of service I need to make it 
>> work.  
>>  
>> Bill Outman 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Juliette Swiler
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app
>>  
>> I just switched my subscription to the all access plan. The app works well 
>> with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Juliette
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 9:28 PM, BBS > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bill. Maybe call Sirius XM and find out what package you have. If you 
>>> have the All Access Package, you can listen to Sirius XM on your home radio 
>>> and on the app. But if you don’t have All Access, you’ll only be able to 
>>> listen to it on your home radio. Also, I recommend using Radium for online 
>>> listening to Sirius XM. It’s a lot more accessible than the native app if 
>>> you don’t need on demand programming and My SXM.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime Username: bbssh...@icloud.com 
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bill Outman
>>> Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 8:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Sirius-XM radio app
>>>  
>>> Good evening.  
>>>  
>>> I have the Sirius-XM radio app on my iPhone.  
>>>  
>>> I also have a subscription I use on a radio I have at home.  
>>>  
>>> Is there any additional charge for using the app or is it part of my 
>>> subscription already; acquiring the app was free.  
>>>  
>>> How do I do the log in process?  It has a place for email or I. D.  Do I 
>>> need to create a password or do I already have one and don’t know it?  
>>>  
>>> What else do I need to know to get started using this app.  
>>>  
>>> Bill 

Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker

[Kimber Gardner]

Maybe if you call Bose they could help you figure it out.

On 3/11/16, Rose Combs  wrote:
> I don’t know the model!
>
>
>
>
>
> Rose Combs
>
>   roseco...@q.com
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:36 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
>
>
>
> which speaker is it?
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Rose Combs 
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:59 PM
>
> Subject: Bose Bluetooth speaker
>
>
>
> I somehow disconnected my Bose Bluetooth speaker, tried to reconnect with no
> luck, probably because I pushed an incorrect button, I’d like it to work
> again!  Can someone tell me which buttons I need to use to reconnect this
> please?  It was done at the store in October 2014 and never had a problem
> until today.  Plugged in, battery was well earlier.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.  Alone, so no eyes to help me!
>
>
>
>
>
> Rose Combs
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Re: sound hound vs shazam?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

There have been times when Shazam didn't identify something and Sound Hound 
did, so I would recommend having Sound Hound as a backup.

Best,
Anna



> On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:45 PM, trahern culver  
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> thanks man :)
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RE: Sirius-XM radio app

[Bill Outman]

Okay, Juliet and all.  

 

I’ve upgraded to all access so I can use the Sirius-XM iPhone app.  I know I 
can log in.  

 

Now how do I find channels and programs?  

 

The screen is so confusing trying to figure out how to make it work with 
VoiceOver on my 5S.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 8:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Juliette Swiler
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Speaking of Sirius XM, I know at one time I found an audio captcha on their 
site to help to log in. But the last couple of times I tried logging on, there 
was no audio captcha to be found. I wish they would have left things well 
enough alone. Now I can’t log in to make changes to my account unless I have 
sighted help or call them. At least the online player for listening to on 
demand content is now accessible with VoiceOver on the Mac. That is one of my 
favorite aspects of the service. So if I miss a show, I can catch it later.

On Mar 8, 2016, at 6:14 PM, BBS  wrote:

 

Hi Bill. The best way to find out if you have All Access is to call them. Then 
you can ask how much it’ll cost to have All Access.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Outman
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 4:00 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Hi, Juliet.  

 

Thanks to you and the other responder for input.  

 

That’s what I’m concerned about, what level of subscription I have, and whether 
it will cost more to be able to use the app if I need to make a change.  

 

My current subscription rolls over in a couple months for the next year, and 
I’m trying to make sure I have enough money cleared so the card it’s billed to 
doesn’t reject it.  

 

I’m hoping I already have the sufficient level of service I need to make it 
work.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Juliette Swiler
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:09 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sirius-XM radio app

 

I just switched my subscription to the all access plan. The app works well with 
VoiceOver.

Juliette


On Mar 7, 2016, at 9:28 PM, BBS <  
bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi Bill. Maybe call Sirius XM and find out what package you have. If you have 
the All Access Package, you can listen to Sirius XM on your home radio and on 
the app. But if you don’t have All Access, you’ll only be able to listen to it 
on your home radio. Also, I recommend using Radium for online listening to 
Sirius XM. It’s a lot more accessible than the native app if you don’t need on 
demand programming and My SXM.

 

 

Shawn

Sent From My White MacBook Via Bootcamp and Windows 10

Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk

Skype Username: bbstheblindrapper

Facetime Username:   bbssh...@icloud.com

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Bill Outman
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 8:50 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sirius-XM radio app

 

Good evening.  

 

I have the Sirius-XM radio app on my iPhone.  

 

I also have a subscription I use on a radio I have at home.  

 

Is there any additional charge for using the app or is it part of my 
subscription already; acquiring the app was free.  

 

How do I do the log in process?  It has a place for email or I. D.  Do I need 
to create a password or do I already have one and don’t know it?  

 

What else do I need to know to get started using this app.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

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what can I do or is my home button just broken

[Eden]

Well I'm beginning to think I need a new phone. It is not under warranty as it 
was bought used. The issue I am having is this that hitting the home button or 
using a braille display and or bluetooth keyboard, half the time or even more 
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RE: Bose Bluetooth speaker

[Rose Combs]

I don’t know the model!  

 

 

Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

 

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Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker

 

which speaker is it?

- Original Message - 

From: Rose Combs   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:59 PM

Subject: Bose Bluetooth speaker

 

I somehow disconnected my Bose Bluetooth speaker, tried to reconnect with no 
luck, probably because I pushed an incorrect button, I’d like it to work again! 
 Can someone tell me which buttons I need to use to reconnect this please?  It 
was done at the store in October 2014 and never had a problem until today.  
Plugged in, battery was well earlier.  

 

Thanks in advance.  Alone, so no eyes to help me!  

 

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com

 

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RE: Bose Bluetooth speaker

[Rose Combs]

Mine has no voice prompts that I know of!  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:25 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker

Maybe it's the third one then. Indeed you do have a different speaker to mine, 
unless voice prompts are off on yours?
> On 9 Mar 2016, at 19:51, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> The second button on mine makes a tone if held but nothing else happens, the 
> Bluetooth setting area does not show the device.  
> What else!  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> christopher hallsworth
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 1:02 AM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
> 
> Hi I thought it was the second button if the power button is on the left. 
> Because if I push it, it speaks the last used device. Where can I find the 
> precise description of the buttons instead of just displaying them as symbols?
>> On 8 Mar 2016, at 21:28, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> Which of the buttons would be the Bluetooth button?  1 is on off, 2, 3, 4 
>> unknown, 5 volume down, 6 volume up!  So it has to be 2, 3 or 4.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of christopher hallsworth
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 12:43 PM
>> To: Viphone
>> Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
>> 
>> Hi I have six buttons on mine as well, try holding the bluetooth button and 
>> it might go into pairing mode.
>>> On 8 Mar 2016, at 19:32, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know mine has six buttons, slot 2, 3 and 4 I don’t know, 1 is on off and 
>>> 5 is volume lower and 6 is volume higher.  I will try what you suggest as 
>>> it makes sense having had to do that for a Bluetooth headset.  
>>> Tried it, is not working, device is forgotten, devices left are the 
>>> headset, a braille display and a keyboard.  Can’t get a sound out of the 
>>> speaker like it is turning on, and it was working yesterday before 3 in the 
>>> afternoon just fine.  
>>> Speaker plugged in, iPhone plugged in.  Speaker makes sound when unplugged 
>>> and plugged back in.  Darn my luck!  Listening to music on the phone is 
>>> horrible without speaker!  
>>> 
>>> I can’t believe that for the past 15 months I never had this happen before, 
>>> usually things like this happen on a fairly regular basis.  
>>> 
>>> Now need to figure this out, cry for help and since I need it to get my 
>>> printer/scanner working again … not until Friday, if then, as I think I may 
>>> be condo hunting then, wanting to sell house with too much outside work for 
>>> me!  
>>> So tired of being without any assistance unless I beg for it!  Alone is OK 
>>> sometimes but not all the time!  Said after 39 years of marriage and 22 
>>> months of alone!  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rose Combs
>>> roseco...@q.com
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 8:56 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
>>> 
>>> Rose, sometimes this happens to me with my UE Boom Bluetooth speaker. I 
>>> found that the easiest way to resolve this error is to find the more info 
>>> button next to the name of your speaker, and double tap it. After that, 
>>> you're looking for the option that says forget to device. You're going to 
>>> be asked if you're sure, and when you are, hit the OK or yes button. I 
>>> forget which one it is now. Anyway, then re-pare the speaker as normal. 
>>> When this happens to me, and I forget the device, and then start all over 
>>> again, things usually fix themselves. I don't think many speakers have a 
>>> specific button that you need to press in order to pare them, other than 
>>> the on button, but yours could be different than mine. I'm sorry I can't 
>>> help you with specifics on how to pare your specific speaker, but if you 
>>> know which button to press, you'll now be starting fresh, and should have 
>>> an easier time of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
>>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>> 
 Alert, connection unsuccessful, I don’t know the name of this except that 
 it is the speaker that came with the iPhone in September 2014.  No family 
 member, will know, and I don’t see them until Friday!  My luck is horrible!
 
 
 Rose Combs
 roseco...@q.com
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Kimberly
 Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 5:29 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker
 
 I'm not sure which Bose speaker you have, 

RE: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

[Larry Lumpkin]

Thank you mark.  I think we've decided that amazon prime is probably not for us 
and amazon music doesn't offer enough classical and old music for us.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
M. Taylor
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 1:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

Hello Again Ari,

Well, I just spent over an hour with my Amazon online music library, IE11, and 
Jaws for Windows, version 16.  

I must tell you that my experience with using Jaws instead of Zoomtext was 
vastly different and not, in my opinion, in a good way.

Now keep in mind that I am not an advanced Jaws user, anymore, especially when 
it comes to using web browsers so take what I write with a grain of salt, as it 
were.

I was surprised at how unstructured the Amazon Music Library is with regard to 
Jaws.  For example, there are no headings to speak of and, worst still, the 
tracks appear not to be listed in a table, proper.  

While I did find it easy to download various tracks, I have no doubt that this 
is because I had previously seen the structure of the interface, visually.   I 
don't think I could have made heads or tails out of anything had I not 
experienced the interface, over the past couple of months, with my eyes, on a 
desktop PC using a screen magnifier.

Just so you know, I used a laptop running Windows 7 with IE 11 and absolutely 
no screen magnification.  In short, I did not and could not use my eyes.  
Although I do have the latest version of Jaws on one of my Desktops, I wanted 
to make certain that I would not cheat during the experience by leaning in and 
peeping at the monitor (smile).  How's that for honesty? (big smile)

To be honest, were I to lose the ability to use Zoomtext in order to access the 
Amazon music library, I would probably never buy another song from them, 
preferring instead to use iTunes.  

Again, I am not an advanced Jaws user.  In fact, I had to type the direct URL 
into the browser in order to locate my online music library as I could not get 
Jaws to land on the Music Library link on the main page of Amazon.  The direct 
URL to your Amazon music library is:
http://amazon.com/musiclibrary

Okay, there you have it from my perspective.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?

Mark, i've had a horrible time trying to use the Amazon music downloader 
program for Windows with NVDA. I haven't found the browser experience to be any 
better. Have you tried using a screen reader instead of Zoom text to access 
your music and downloaded from the web, without using the downloader program?

Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 1:00 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Larry,
> 
> I have not used the iOS Amazon Music app.  However, I can tell you that the 
> Windows version of the app does not play nicely with ZoomText.  In fact, I 
> recently installed it on my Windows 10 computer only to remove it about an 
> hour later.  
> 
> To be honest, assuming that you are using a modern browser on your PC, the 
> Amazon browser experience is completely screen-reader friendly.  All of the 
> buttons are labeled and, to me anyway, are arranged in a logical order.
> 
> After purchasing music from Amazon, I simply download the track or tracks, as 
> the case may be, to my PC for playback and eventual iPod use.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: is amazon music for I devices and pc accessible?
> 
> The subject says it.  Are the ios and pc apps for amazon music accessible?  
> The amazon music player I downloaded years ago wasn’t very accessible.
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Re: Sonos

[Krister Ekstrom]

Yup, i too love the Sonos system. What would be cool now is to have a player 
similar to the play 1 that you could take out on your balcony with batteries in 
it. What would be even cooler would be to have a category for audio books so 
the books aren’t called ”songs” and end up in my music categories. Those two 
things however are only wishes.
/Krister

> 11 mars 2016 kl. 15:36 skrev Jonathan Mosen :
> 
> While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
> any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the 
> Connect. You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device 
> plugged into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing 
> aids. You can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For 
> example, we have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 
> 5.1 surround sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos 
> connect as well so I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing 
> aids. But it could easily be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.
> Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
> iPhone. I love this stuff.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org 
>> On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Marie,
>>  
>> Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
>> say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know 
>> they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act 
>> as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the 
>> last 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of 
>> course there are many situations where one would want to listen privately 
>> with a headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on 
>> headsets in the last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on 
>> that bandwagon. I think there could be either one of two products or both:
>> one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
>> course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend 
>> $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I 
>> think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price 
>> point and one where they could really make it sound awesome.
>> The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones 
>> would be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with 
>> rechargeable battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This 
>> would be the product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a 
>> separate player and it would allow users to plug in any headset or 
>> headphones they have from a cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of 
>> Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is probably about as good as it gets. A 
>> product like this should maybe cost $250 to $400 or $500 at most if they put 
>> in really good components and if Sonos were to make only one product I hope 
>> it would be this one as it offers a lot more flexibility with headsets users 
>> already own.
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Marie
>> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Sonos
>>  
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
>> earlier.
>> Marie
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Re: Sonos

[Jonathan Mosen]

While a headphone jack on some of the units might be nice, I'm not convinced 
any new product is necessary, because Sonos already has one called the Connect. 
You can easily plug headphones into this, and indeed I have a device plugged 
into a connect that sends any audio from Sonos directly to my hearing aids. You 
can set it up as a room of its own or group it with another. For example, we 
have a Sonos PlayBar, sub, and two Play:1s in our living room for 5.1 surround 
sound. When we're watching a movie, I send audio to a Sonos connect as well so 
I get the sound of the movie straight into my hearing aids. But it could easily 
be wireless or wired headphones plugged in there.
Becoming a Sonos household has been the coolest tech we've adopted since 
iPhone. I love this stuff.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

> On 11/03/2016, at 7:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
>  
> Yes, sadly Sonos at this point is all about listening out loud and all I can 
> say is to call Sonos or submit feedback via their website to let them know 
> they really need to look at designing a stand-alone headset which would act 
> as a separate Sonos Player. I’ve been waiting fore this for at least the last 
> 2 or 3 years and each year I hope they’ll announce such a product. Of course 
> there are many situations where one would want to listen privately with a 
> headset and considering how much of a focus there has been on headsets in the 
> last few years I don’t get it how Sonos isn’t jumping on that bandwagon. I 
> think there could be either one of two products or both:
> one would be high-quality stand-alone audio file quality headphones but of 
> course such a product would be very pricy considering one can easily spend 
> $500 to $1,000 or even more on true audio file quality wired headphones. I 
> think a product around $500 to $700 US from Sonos would be the right price 
> point and one where they could really make it sound awesome.
> The other product which I think should be a companion to the headphones would 
> be a small iPhone-size or slightly thicker headphone amp with rechargeable 
> battery, a quarter inch headphone jack and belt clip. This would be the 
> product that connects to the Sonos system and acts as a separate player and 
> it would allow users to plug in any headset or headphones they have from a 
> cheap $20 pair of earbuds to a pair of Sennheiser HD800S for $1,699 which is 
> probably about as good as it gets. A product like this should maybe cost $250 
> to $400 or $500 at most if they put in really good components and if Sonos 
> were to make only one product I hope it would be this one as it offers a lot 
> more flexibility with headsets users already own.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Marie
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Sonos
>  
> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
> earlier.
> Marie
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What's the difference between Trekz and Bluez?

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
I’m pondering getting an Aftershokz headset, however i want to know the 
difference between the Trekz Titanium and the Bluez 2 S. If it’s just the 
titanium head band thingy that’s the difference then i may opt to go for the 
Bluez. Could anyone please explain the difference?
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Re: Sonos

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
Will or is Trueplay accessible in the current public betas if any?
/Krister

> 11 mars 2016 kl. 13:56 skrev Neil Barnfather - TalkNav :
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 
> 3 and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.
> 
> The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
> of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
> the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its 
> very nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from 
> yours truly!!!
> 
> Best.
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.neilbarnfather.com 
> Business Consultant & Disability Advocate
> 
> Visit my web-site to learn more about my range of services covering a 
> selection of business consultancy functions to a complete series of 
> disability advocacy roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most 
> successful disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled 
> spokesperson.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie > > wrote:
>> 
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought  one 
>> earlier.
>> Marie
>>  
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Re: I'm really enjoying my new iPhone 6s plus, and I'm learning how valuable Siri is.

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wow Kevin
Good luck in your adventures with your new toy! and yes Siri definitely 
can be very useful!


El 11/03/2016 07:51 a.m., Kevin Minor escribió:


Hi.

This message serves two purposes.  First, Christmas came yesterday for 
me.  I am now the proud owner of a gold 128 GB iPhone 6s plus.  It 
took some time to get up and running, and I did have a bit of trouble 
restoring things to my preferences, but I have it pretty well to my 
liking.  I downloaded the Alex voice, and it sounds great to me.  
Other than the NFL Mobile app not working, all is well.  I upgraded 
from an 8 GB 5c to this phone, so I’ll have plenty of space on it for 
whatever I like.


Now for the second part of this note, and it shows how handy Siri can 
be.  I need to set this up, so bear with me explaining some things.  
When I set up the iPhone 6s plus, I decided to skip the touch ID 
option.  I then called up AT to activate the phone.  I had some 
trouble entering in the numbers on my 5c, but that’s normal, and I 
hope the larger size of the 6s plus will help.  I was then routed to 
an agent.  He sent me to the wrong web site to activate the phone, but 
in the end I didn’t have to do anything to get it working, because 
AT had all my information on file, so he activated my phone.  He 
told me to turn off both phones, then turn on my new phone, and he’d 
call me to see if it worked.  Well, I followed his instructions, and, 
voila, I got a call from him.  When I got the call I saw a message 
prompting me to enable WI-FI calling.  I don’t know what I did, but 
that message went away.  I decided not to worry about it last night, 
so I went to sleep.  When I woke up this morning, I decided to try to 
set up WI-FI calling.  I looked under settings, but the option wasn’t 
obvious to me.  I then tried to call My Apple, but their offices were 
closed.  I then thought, “Why not see if Siri can give me some help?  
I have nothing to lose, and if she can’t, I can always call back for 
help.”  I asked Siri, “How do I set up WI-FI calling?”  I got 
information on Android phones, so I tried again, this time specifying 
my iPhone type.  Siri now returned some information on how to do 
this.  I followed the instructions, and I now have WI-FI calling enabled.


Next, I decided to try to configure the touch ID feature.  Again, I 
didn’t see the option in settings, so I figured that if Siri helped me 
once, she could do so again.  I asked her about setting up touch ID, 
and I got good information on how to do this.  Turns out the setting 
is pretty obvious, but I didn’t remember hearing Alex tell me about 
it.  Thanks to Siri, I now have touch ID working on this iPhone, and 
I’m really impressed.  I had a laptop that had this option on it, but 
it was a royal pain to get working.  You had to swipe your finger over 
this sensor, and if you were lucky, the print would be recognized.  
With the 6s plus, I get almost an immediate response from my iPhone.  
I like it for its security, and later on I’ll configure the Apple 
Wallet for Apple Pay, but that will have to wait until I get that nice 
thing called money to use it.


My point in sending this note is twofold.  First, I wanted to share my 
experiences with the new iPhone, and second, and more importantly, I 
can’t stress enough to ask Siri for help on something.  That 
technology is amazing!


That’s it for now.  I now am going to sleep a little, waiting for the 
SEC tournament to start.  GO CATS!


Have a blessed day.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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I'm really enjoying my new iPhone 6s plus, and I'm learning how valuable Siri is.

[Kevin Minor]

Hi.

This message serves two purposes.  First, Christmas came yesterday for me.  I 
am now the proud owner of a gold 128 GB iPhone 6s plus.  It took some time to 
get up and running, and I did have a bit of trouble restoring things to my 
preferences, but I have it pretty well to my liking.  I downloaded the Alex 
voice, and it sounds great to me.  Other than the NFL Mobile app not working, 
all is well.  I upgraded from an 8 GB 5c to this phone, so I'll have plenty of 
space on it for whatever I like.

Now for the second part of this note, and it shows how handy Siri can be.  I 
need to set this up, so bear with me explaining some things.  When I set up the 
iPhone 6s plus, I decided to skip the touch ID option.  I then called up AT 
to activate the phone.  I had some trouble entering in the numbers on my 5c, 
but that's normal, and I hope the larger size of the 6s plus will help.  I was 
then routed to an agent.  He sent me to the wrong web site to activate the 
phone, but in the end I didn't have to do anything to get it working, because 
AT had all my information on file, so he activated my phone.  He told me to 
turn off both phones, then turn on my new phone, and he'd call me to see if it 
worked.  Well, I followed his instructions, and, voila, I got a call from him.  
When I got the call I saw a message prompting me to enable WI-FI calling.  I 
don't know what I did, but that message went away.  I decided not to worry 
about it last night, so I went to sleep.  When I woke up this morning, I 
decided to try to set up WI-FI calling.  I looked under settings, but the 
option wasn't obvious to me.  I then tried to call My Apple, but their offices 
were closed.  I then thought, "Why not see if Siri can give me some help?  I 
have nothing to lose, and if she can't, I can always call back for help."  I 
asked Siri, "How do I set up WI-FI calling?"  I got information on Android 
phones, so I tried again, this time specifying my iPhone type.  Siri now 
returned some information on how to do this.  I followed the instructions, and 
I now have WI-FI calling enabled.

Next, I decided to try to configure the touch ID feature.  Again, I didn't see 
the option in settings, so I figured that if Siri helped me once, she could do 
so again.  I asked her about setting up touch ID, and I got good information on 
how to do this.  Turns out the setting is pretty obvious, but I didn't remember 
hearing Alex tell me about it.  Thanks to Siri, I now have touch ID working on 
this iPhone, and I'm really impressed.  I had a laptop that had this option on 
it, but it was a royal pain to get working.  You had to swipe your finger over 
this sensor, and if you were lucky, the print would be recognized.  With the 6s 
plus, I get almost an immediate response from my iPhone.  I like it for its 
security, and later on I'll configure the Apple Wallet for Apple Pay, but that 
will have to wait until I get that nice thing called money to use it.

My point in sending this note is twofold.  First, I wanted to share my 
experiences with the new iPhone, and second, and more importantly, I can't 
stress enough to ask Siri for help on something.  That technology is amazing!

That's it for now.  I now am going to sleep a little, waiting for the SEC 
tournament to start.  GO CATS!

Have a blessed day.
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: Sonos

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Sorry, to anyone reading that on list, to be 100% clear, true Play tuning is 
not accessible to Voice Over users who are using the public release of the App, 
as many of you know, I work with Sonos privately, so, I just wanted to reasure 
folk, True Play will be accessible with Voice Over likely in the next public 
update of the software, as I can see nothing wrong with the latest rework that 
we’ve just finished doing.
Neil Barnfather MBE
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entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled spokesperson.



> On 11 Mar 2016, at 12:56, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav  
> wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 
> 3 and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.
> 
> The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
> of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
> the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its 
> very nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from 
> yours truly!!!
> 
> Best.
> Neil Barnfather MBE
> www.neilbarnfather.com 
> Business Consultant & Disability Advocate
> 
> Visit my web-site to learn more about my range of services covering a 
> selection of business consultancy functions to a complete series of 
> disability advocacy roles. All delivered personally by one of the UK’s most 
> successful disabled entrepreneurs and established, recognised disabled 
> spokesperson.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie > > wrote:
>> 
>> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
>> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
>> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
>> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
>> earlier.
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Re: Sonos

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

Sieghard,

Just a brief reflection; True Play is available for all Sonos Play units, 1, 3 
and 5, not yet the PlayBar publicly.

The True Play tuning experience is not, yet, accessible to the public release 
of the software, however, I doubt I’m being naughty to say that it is within 
the present versions of the software that I am working with. In fact, its very 
nicely been done, with a few minor modifications to the process from yours 
truly!!!

Best.
Neil Barnfather MBE
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> On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:49, Marie  wrote:
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> I was just reading the reviews of the Sonos Play 5 and there were complaints 
> that there was no output jack on this speaker? I was under the impressions 
> that it did have a headphone jack but wonder if it was removed in the newer 
> model. This is a real turn off for me. I guess I should have bought one 
> earlier.
> Marie
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Re: Strange Occurrence with Apple Maps and Turning Tracking On

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

In privacy settings, this app is not ticked to allow use of location tracking.
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From: "Jim Fettgather" 
To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:23 PM
Subject: Strange Occurrence with Apple Maps and Turning Tracking On


Hello to the list.
When I launch Apple Maps, and then try to turn on Traing on with
headings, a dialog pops up and says that location services need to be
enabled, then i have a button to go to settings.

However, location services are already enabled, I can ask Siri for
driving or walking directions, so the maps are working, but when I try
to turn Tracking On, that is when this message comes up regarding
enabling location services.
Has anyone ever encountered this before?
This was not on my own phone, but on a phone where I was attempting to
set this up for a friend.
Thanks for any insight.

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Re: Bose Bluetooth speaker

[Robert Doc Wright]

which speaker is it?
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  From: Rose Combs 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 2:59 PM
  Subject: Bose Bluetooth speaker


  I somehow disconnected my Bose Bluetooth speaker, tried to reconnect with no 
luck, probably because I pushed an incorrect button, I’d like it to work again! 
 Can someone tell me which buttons I need to use to reconnect this please?  It 
was done at the store in October 2014 and never had a problem until today.  
Plugged in, battery was well earlier.  

   

  Thanks in advance.  Alone, so no eyes to help me!  

   

   

  Rose Combs

  roseco...@q.com

   


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