SE v 7...

2016-08-26 Thread Dianne Phelps
Did I not read from one of you that the SE memory could be upgraded to 64? I
have 64 now and could not see going back to 16.

 

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Re: SE V 7...

2016-08-26 Thread Portia Scott
Yes, I agree.

I was considering an iPhone 6S or 6S Plus, but seeing as the price is so high, 
I can’t afford it. So maybe, just maybe, as my backup phone, I’ll consider the 
SE.

Portia.
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Dianne Phelps  wrote:
> 
> My intention is to go with the SE too since while I have enjoyed my 6, and 
> have learned to do more with it, sometimes, I feel as though things are far 
> tooo spread out now, making gestures needing to be larger. Since I like to 
> pop my phone into a pocket or pouch round my neck, I have decided I want the 
> smaller size. If the camera is just as good on the SE, I truly would like to 
> go back to something smaller to carry, though photography is not as important 
> to me as it would be if I still had some vision. Besides, I don’t want to 
> have to convert to bluetoth head phones. I’ll have to wait until my contract 
> is up next spring before I can upgrade. My 6 has had good solid use which I 
> can’t say for the other models.
>  
> Parenthetically, I have not had the nasty problem in 9.34, though I find I 
> must dictate very distinctly with Siri. I wish it heard words a bit better, 
> but perhaps, eventually. It’s far better than it used to be back in the 4S 
> days.
>  
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SE V 7...

2016-08-26 Thread Dianne Phelps
My intention is to go with the SE too since while I have enjoyed my 6, and
have learned to do more with it, sometimes, I feel as though things are far
tooo spread out now, making gestures needing to be larger. Since I like to
pop my phone into a pocket or pouch round my neck, I have decided I want the
smaller size. If the camera is just as good on the SE, I truly would like to
go back to something smaller to carry, though photography is not as
important to me as it would be if I still had some vision. Besides, I don't
want to have to convert to bluetoth head phones. I'll have to wait until my
contract is up next spring before I can upgrade. My 6 has had good solid use
which I can't say for the other models.

 

Parenthetically, I have not had the nasty problem in 9.34, though I find I
must dictate very distinctly with Siri. I wish it heard words a bit better,
but perhaps, eventually. It's far better than it used to be back in the 4S
days.

 

Dianne B. Phelps,

Napa, California

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Re: App to schedule and record a radio show

2016-08-26 Thread Richard Turner

TuneIn Radio Pro has this feature and it works with VoiceOver.
I think you do have to keep TuneIn in the foreground. But, you could do that by 
leaving it plugged in and set to the station and just put it in another room so 
it doesn't keep you awake.
HTH,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:07 AM, Wayne Merritt 
> wrote:

Greetings. I am looking for an app to schedule and record a radio show
on a weekly basis. There is a show that I like to listen to overnight
but it is broadcast from midnight to 4am my time Friday mornings. Is
there an app I can schedule a weekly recording of this show? I have
TuneIn Radio and ooTunes but I don't know if either would do this or
how to set it up. I've tried to look for podcasts of the show but
can't find them. I'm probably not using the right keywords. Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Discounted apps

2016-08-26 Thread Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
Hello someone posted information regarding an app that will let you know when 
apps are either free or offered at a discounted rate. I've been trying to 
search for the app and have been unable to find it. If anyone knows the name of 
it can you please repost.
Thank you

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to 
eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are they 
going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the year? I can 
see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away from the 
other smart phone manufacturers who line their product releases up with 
the show in Barcelona, but I also know that operating system development 
is more complicated when you have to support different hardware schedules.


On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to do 
their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super technical 
users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone were released. 
They may hear about it in a news article from a major news outlet, but the fact 
is that a large majority of people are users who do not necessarily follow each 
Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care less if they 
made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did this with the iPad a few 
years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I don't think they are going to 
release a new 4 inch phone in September, at this point there would be many more 
rumours and some of which from sources who in the past have been very credible 
and there are no such rumours.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other phones 
last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the phone was 
released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks before getting 
their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone releases, and they 
admitted that they underestimated the demand for this particular phone. So, you 
have a case where people just purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here 
we are in September almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases 
a new SE now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks 
who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why 
didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you 
wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release 
another one? That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out? Are 
you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on sale after 
they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since this would mean 
the only way to make everyone happy is to never put something on sale. I'd 
assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd 
think anyone who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple 
might include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't think 
Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more frequently than 
once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on 
if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who just 
bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than likely, 
the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not sure if 
Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want the 
smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be interesting to 
see what Apple introduces though.
Original message:

Hello Christine,



Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, you 
have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I would 
recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade 
privileges.



Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE



  Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally 

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I suppose, but wouldn't this also be true for someone who just bought an 
iPhone 6S? I guess someone might have bought an SE recently thinking 
Apple wouldn't refresh it this fall, because as you said, Apple didn't 
release the SE until the spring, but Apple doesn't make guarantees, and 
if you were going to be upset in this case then you probably should have 
kept waiting to make sure, at least IMHO.


I should confess that I'm not a proponent of waiting myself, although I 
did hold on to my 4S for over four years. Of course it depends on the 
situation. If you've got a phone you're not unhappy with and a new 
release is right around the corner, then sure go ahead and wait. I 
bought my iPhone 4S in the summer, and sure, I could have waited four 
months when the iPhone 5 came out, but then I would have been using my 
old Nokia, which I loved when it was new, for another four months. The 
iPhone 5 was a nicer phone when it came out, but my 4S served me well 
for over four years, and I have no regrets.


That being said, I did make trips to AT twice yearly to check out the 
new batch of iPhones in the fall and the new batch of Samsung phones in 
the spring. Each time, I decided I'd wait another six months to see what 
would come out next. My wife was convinced I'd never get a new phone 
until my 4S fell apart. Of course, in this situation, I had a phone I 
wasn't unhappy with, so I had no problems waiting. With the rumors 
swirling around about what the fall might bring, and given how old my 4S 
was and that it wouldn't be seeing another IOS, I finally decided I 
didn't need to keep waiting, so I took the plunge and finally upgraded 
my 4S this summer.


On 26/08/16 22:03, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other phones 
last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the phone was 
released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks before getting 
their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone releases, and they 
admitted that they underestimated the demand for this particular phone. So, you 
have a case where people just purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here 
we are in September almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases 
a new SE now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks 
who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why 
didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you 
wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release 
another one? That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out? Are 
you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on sale after 
they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since this would mean 
the only way to make everyone happy is to never put something on sale. I'd 
assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd 
think anyone who bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple 
might include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't think 
Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any more frequently than 
once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on 
if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who just 
bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than likely, 
the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not sure if 
Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want the 
smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be interesting to 
see what Apple introduces though.
Original message:

Hello Christine,



Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, you 
have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I would 
recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade 
privileges.



Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE



  Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade 

Re: Grubhub ap

2016-08-26 Thread Kathy Brandt
I tried the update that was released a few days ago: over four restaurants I 
consistently found that when I wanted to choose a beverage, the app would 
crash, and I would lose the order I had put together before the beverage.  
Someone suggested that I get someone cited to use my phone with voiceover off 
and see if the app still crashed:  it turned out that I figured out that I 
could hold my finger on the 20 ounce soda, turn voiceover off with the other 
hand, tap the soda, turn voiceover on, and then be able to choose what I wanted 
without incident . I put a review in the App Store, and DM to GrubHub on 
Twitter to let them know this, saying that if I could choose an entrée, 
appetizer, etc., that I should be able to interact with VoiceOver in the same 
way to choose a Drink. 
r

> On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Have all of you who care about this app and who aren't receiving feedback 
> contacted Grub Hub on their toll free phone number? It was easy to find on 
> their website and I wonder whether they'll start to take notice if they get a 
> few dozen calls each day from frustrated users, maybe demand that their 
> customer service reads you off a bunch of meal choices and restaurant 
> options, ask for supervisors/managers and in general be a nuisance.
> If anybody wants to try, their customer service number is 1-877-585-1085.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 1:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
> 
> Mark is correct that apps themselves are not required by the law to be 
> accessible.  The legal theory being advanced is that Grub Hub is a prepared 
> food delivery service to the public and not merely a technology.  As a food 
> delivery service, it cannot exclude customers because it does not want or 
> care to serve them.  Grub Hub could offer another means of providing the 
> content of the app and conducting a prepared food delivery transaction. The 
> other options, such as 24 hour customer service, would be much more expensive 
> than spending a few days of coding to make the app VoiceOver accessible.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8/22/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> And what happens if the judge does dismiss it? Then I guess whoever 
>> filed the claim is on the hook for the legal fees unless you find a 
>> lawyer who will do it pro bono for the potential publicity.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 11:47 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
>> 
>> Some have interpreted the effective communications provision of the 
>> Americans with Disabilities Act to apply to online services.  Courts 
>> have refused to dismiss accessibility cases involving Uber and Net 
>> Flicks believing that plaintiffs had a likelihood in showing that the ADA 
>> applied.
>> Both companies decided to settle after these rulings rather than 
>> taking the issue to trial and an appeal for a definitive decision.  In 
>> the United States Sieghard, plaintiffs who prevail in civil rights 
>> cases, including ADA cases, can have their attorney fees paid by the 
>> discriminating party when the aggrieved party prevails.
>> This is how vice-Presidential candidate Tim Kaine got paid at his 
>> civil rights law firm as a lawyer.  The firm was paid when they won in 
>> court or the other party settled.  Now his net worth is estimated at
>> $1.4 million.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/22/16, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> You are absolutely correct, my friend.  There is no such law in the 
>>> United States.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:35 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Grubhub ap
>>> 
>>> Sorry for my ignorance, but on what basis would you take legal action?
>>> I am in Canada and I understand that there are some laws regarding 
>>> accessibility, but I didn't think there was one that forced an app 
>>> developer or a company to make their app accessible if they don't 
>>> want to do so. Who would pay the legal bill?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 5:04 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Grubhub ap
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else interested in taking legal action against these guys?
>>> If so, let's talk.
>>> 
>>> kelly
>>> 
 On 8/21/16, Marie Lyons  wrote:
 I sent an email outlining the problems. You know when I did my post 
 I had 

[no subject]

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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to everybody to do 
their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not super technical 
users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form factor phone were released. 
They may hear about it in a news article from a major news outlet, but the fact 
is that a large majority of people are users who do not necessarily follow each 
Apple Event. Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care less if they 
made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did this with the iPad a few 
years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I don't think they are going to 
release a new 4 inch phone in September, at this point there would be many more 
rumours and some of which from sources who in the past have been very credible 
and there are no such rumours.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other phones 
last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the phone was 
released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks before getting 
their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone releases, and they 
admitted that they underestimated the demand for this particular phone. So, you 
have a case where people just purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here 
we are in September almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases 
a new SE now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks 
who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why 
didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you 
wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release 
another one? That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
> upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out? Are 
> you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on sale 
> after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since this 
> would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put something on 
> sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release new phones in the 
> fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know that there would be a 
> chance Apple might include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line 
> up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any 
> more frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE 
> would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
>>> be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>>> Original message:
 Hello Christine,
>>> 
 Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
 you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
 I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
 your upgrade privileges.
>>> 
 Mark
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m 

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other phones 
last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, when the phone was 
released, there was a major back up, so people waited weeks before getting 
their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple phone releases, and they 
admitted that they underestimated the demand for this particular phone. So, you 
have a case where people just purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here 
we are in September almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases 
a new SE now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks 
who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, Apple, why 
didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the others? Why did you 
wait over half a year, then release the phone, and right on top of it, release 
another one? That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
> upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came out? Are 
> you talking about the same people who get mad when something goes on sale 
> after they paid full price for it? I never got this reasoning since this 
> would mean the only way to make everyone happy is to never put something on 
> sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows they release new phones in the 
> fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an SE would know that there would be a 
> chance Apple might include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line 
> up. I don't think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any 
> more frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE 
> would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
>>> be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>>> Original message:
 Hello Christine,
>>> 
 Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
 you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
 I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
 your upgrade privileges.
>>> 
 Mark
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Christine Grassman
 Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>> 
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, 
 the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
 about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
 I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>> 
 In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
 upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
 wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>> 
 TIA.
 Christine
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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't get that extra text in my edit box when I'm looking for the 
keyboard input button, so maybe that's a phone specific thing. I do 
agree though that the double tap to end the dictation on the iPhone is 
nice. I just find it a bit more inconvenient on Android but not a show 
stopper.


I do use threads when reading my email, and in this way I do definitely 
like Aquamail. If I double tab the message, the thread is expanded in 
line without taking me into a new screen. Again I can just double tap 
the sleet button and select the entire thread to be deleted all at once 
or just select the messages in the thread I want deleted. I find this 
more efficient than having to go into the screen with just the messages 
from the thread in it, work with those messages, and then go back into 
the parent folder. Now that I think about it, Aquamail handles threads a 
bit more like Thunderibrd, which is how I prefer to deal with my 
threaded email.


As I'm working through my messages in Aquamail, I will sometimes delete 
the selected messages as I'm going or wait until I'm done and delete 
them all at once. I agree, a lot of what you prefer is how you like 
working with your email, and I might have tweaked how I do things now 
that I spend more time in Aquamail then I do in Apple's Mail app.


On 26/08/16 21:53, Mary Otten wrote:

Well, I don't find it that easy to find the pause button. If I did, that would 
solve one of my problems. Sometimes, while looking for the pause button, 
because dictation imput has not stopped, I get extra junk in my message, which 
I then have to get rid of. My problem with editing text has to do with Focus 
jumping from the edit box to somewhere else. I agree that up-and-down on the 
navigation granularity is nice. But The ease with which my edit box seems to 
lose focus is a major issue. I don't know if you use threaded conversations or 
not. I do. And I really appreciate being able to just go through mail, read 
what I want and delete as I go, thread by thread. It sounds like you delete all 
your stuff at the end of the email session. I don't always get through all of 
my email in one session, if it is stacked up. I guess this is a matter of 
style, since if you are selecting those selectors as you go, you could just 
delete all the selected stuff  before you quit the mail session. Different 
routines for different people I guess. But the dictation thing is a real 
showstopper for me as long as I can't edit efficiently and stop the dictation 
efficiently. Anyway, I suppose this is off the original question. But it is an 
interesting discussion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

When I saw this thread, I was a bit surprised since my first reaction was that 
deleting a bunch of messages was a bit easier in Aquamail then it is in the IOS 
Mail app, but after thinking about it further, I realized that it was about a 
push. In IOS, Maybe I'm missing something in IOS though. I usually read down 
through my in box and when I want to delete a message, I flick up and then 
double tap to delete. In Aquamail, I flick right once, double tap the select 
button and then move on. When I'm done, I delete all of the selected messages 
with a double tap on the move to delete button at the top of the screen. This 
feels like a push to me. While I'm reading a message, I just double tap the 
delete button in either app and then the next message comes up.

I have to admit though that I think the Mail app on IOS is amazing. In my 
opinion, the power and simplicity of it's interface is unparalleled. I spent a 
long time in Android looking for something similar before settling on Typemail 
and then Aquamail when the Typemail interface got a bit cluttered.

You're right about dictation, but I find Google does a better job with speech 
recognition and punctuation. I also find it pretty easy to find and double tap 
on the keyboard input button when I'm done dictating, but I agree, this isn't 
as nice as the double tap.

I actually like editing text in Android over the iPhone now. This is mostly 
because is so easy to switch granularity by flicking up or down as opposed to 
using the roter in Apple. I don't have anything against the roter, but I tend 
to have a lot of options in it, so sometimes it takes a few rotations to change 
the granularity.


On 26/08/16 19:36, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version of the
stock mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the mainstream
technical press. Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As for aqua mail, yes, I
have played with settings. I can certainly delete all of the messages in
my inbox quickly enough. But what I haven't found a way to do which I
can do on iOS, is to actually go through my mail and interact with it
efficiently,  Reading messages and replying as I wish, and or deleting
threads I don't want to read with just one flick of my 

Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out with an 
upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after the SE came 
out? Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something 
goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this 
reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy is 
to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows Apple knows 
they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who bought an 
SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might include a smaller 
form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't think Apple would ever 
promise not to refresh a phone model any more frequently than once a 
year. I also don't see what anyone who has an SE would be missing out on 
if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE this fall.


On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote:

Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who just 
bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than likely, 
the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not sure if 
Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want the 
smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be interesting to 
see what Apple introduces though.
Original message:

Hello Christine,



Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, you 
have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I would 
recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade 
privileges.



Mark



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE



   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or using 
my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of 
syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with 
the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest 
involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me.



In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my upgrade, 
get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth wasting my upgrade 
or extra money.



TIA.
Christine



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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
Well, I don't find it that easy to find the pause button. If I did, that would 
solve one of my problems. Sometimes, while looking for the pause button, 
because dictation imput has not stopped, I get extra junk in my message, which 
I then have to get rid of. My problem with editing text has to do with Focus 
jumping from the edit box to somewhere else. I agree that up-and-down on the 
navigation granularity is nice. But The ease with which my edit box seems to 
lose focus is a major issue. I don't know if you use threaded conversations or 
not. I do. And I really appreciate being able to just go through mail, read 
what I want and delete as I go, thread by thread. It sounds like you delete all 
your stuff at the end of the email session. I don't always get through all of 
my email in one session, if it is stacked up. I guess this is a matter of 
style, since if you are selecting those selectors as you go, you could just 
delete all the selected stuff  before you quit the mail session. Different 
routines for different people I guess. But the dictation thing is a real 
showstopper for me as long as I can't edit efficiently and stop the dictation 
efficiently. Anyway, I suppose this is off the original question. But it is an 
interesting discussion.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> When I saw this thread, I was a bit surprised since my first reaction was 
> that deleting a bunch of messages was a bit easier in Aquamail then it is in 
> the IOS Mail app, but after thinking about it further, I realized that it was 
> about a push. In IOS, Maybe I'm missing something in IOS though. I usually 
> read down through my in box and when I want to delete a message, I flick up 
> and then double tap to delete. In Aquamail, I flick right once, double tap 
> the select button and then move on. When I'm done, I delete all of the 
> selected messages with a double tap on the move to delete button at the top 
> of the screen. This feels like a push to me. While I'm reading a message, I 
> just double tap the delete button in either app and then the next message 
> comes up.
> 
> I have to admit though that I think the Mail app on IOS is amazing. In my 
> opinion, the power and simplicity of it's interface is unparalleled. I spent 
> a long time in Android looking for something similar before settling on 
> Typemail and then Aquamail when the Typemail interface got a bit cluttered.
> 
> You're right about dictation, but I find Google does a better job with speech 
> recognition and punctuation. I also find it pretty easy to find and double 
> tap on the keyboard input button when I'm done dictating, but I agree, this 
> isn't as nice as the double tap.
> 
> I actually like editing text in Android over the iPhone now. This is mostly 
> because is so easy to switch granularity by flicking up or down as opposed to 
> using the roter in Apple. I don't have anything against the roter, but I tend 
> to have a lot of options in it, so sometimes it takes a few rotations to 
> change the granularity.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 19:36, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version of the
>> stock mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the mainstream
>> technical press. Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As for aqua mail, yes, I
>> have played with settings. I can certainly delete all of the messages in
>> my inbox quickly enough. But what I haven't found a way to do which I
>> can do on iOS, is to actually go through my mail and interact with it
>> efficiently,  Reading messages and replying as I wish, and or deleting
>> threads I don't want to read with just one flick of my finger as I go.
>> Google dictation does seem to be fairly accurate. Perhaps it is a little
>> bit more accurate for me than Apple. But because I have such a hard time
>> correcting mistakes, which it certainly does make, I would rather have
>> Apple, even if it's a little bit less accurate, because I can fix it
>> easier. I have heard that Siri is going to get much better in the next
>> version. Whether that will carry over to dictation remains to be seen of
>> course. Have you tried the app that Kevin recommended on here a little
>> while back, inbox by Gmail I think was the name? It only works for
>> Google accounts. So if you have things other than Google, then it's not
>> good for you.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it
>>> would probably work on all iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large
>>> turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for
>>> alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its
>>> options, features and tones of settings for fine tuning 

Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Kathy Brandt
I do it your way, but a lot of times in my inbox I hit the edit button, then 
double tap on the message or thread that I want to delete; it says selected, 
and then when I am at the end of my queue I hit trash selected messages at the 
bottom. That's a lot easier for me then flicking up, double tapping to delete, 
and then maybe losing my place in the queue and having to find it again
.

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:27 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> When I saw this thread, I was a bit surprised since my first reaction was 
> that deleting a bunch of messages was a bit easier in Aquamail then it is in 
> the IOS Mail app, but after thinking about it further, I realized that it was 
> about a push. In IOS, Maybe I'm missing something in IOS though. I usually 
> read down through my in box and when I want to delete a message, I flick up 
> and then double tap to delete. In Aquamail, I flick right once, double tap 
> the select button and then move on. When I'm done, I delete all of the 
> selected messages with a double tap on the move to delete button at the top 
> of the screen. This feels like a push to me. While I'm reading a message, I 
> just double tap the delete button in either app and then the next message 
> comes up.
> 
> I have to admit though that I think the Mail app on IOS is amazing. In my 
> opinion, the power and simplicity of it's interface is unparalleled. I spent 
> a long time in Android looking for something similar before settling on 
> Typemail and then Aquamail when the Typemail interface got a bit cluttered.
> 
> You're right about dictation, but I find Google does a better job with speech 
> recognition and punctuation. I also find it pretty easy to find and double 
> tap on the keyboard input button when I'm done dictating, but I agree, this 
> isn't as nice as the double tap.
> 
> I actually like editing text in Android over the iPhone now. This is mostly 
> because is so easy to switch granularity by flicking up or down as opposed to 
> using the roter in Apple. I don't have anything against the roter, but I tend 
> to have a lot of options in it, so sometimes it takes a few rotations to 
> change the granularity.
> 
>> On 26/08/16 19:36, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version of the
>> stock mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the mainstream
>> technical press. Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As for aqua mail, yes, I
>> have played with settings. I can certainly delete all of the messages in
>> my inbox quickly enough. But what I haven't found a way to do which I
>> can do on iOS, is to actually go through my mail and interact with it
>> efficiently,  Reading messages and replying as I wish, and or deleting
>> threads I don't want to read with just one flick of my finger as I go.
>> Google dictation does seem to be fairly accurate. Perhaps it is a little
>> bit more accurate for me than Apple. But because I have such a hard time
>> correcting mistakes, which it certainly does make, I would rather have
>> Apple, even if it's a little bit less accurate, because I can fix it
>> easier. I have heard that Siri is going to get much better in the next
>> version. Whether that will carry over to dictation remains to be seen of
>> course. Have you tried the app that Kevin recommended on here a little
>> while back, inbox by Gmail I think was the name? It only works for
>> Google accounts. So if you have things other than Google, then it's not
>> good for you.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it
>>> would probably work on all iOS devices.
>>> 
>>> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large
>>> turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for
>>> alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its
>>> options, features and tones of settings for fine tuning its operativity.
>>> 
>>> I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle
>>> than iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything
>>> with the app itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better
>>> results with Google Speech Input or whatever is it called in English
>>> than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native language.
>>> 
>>> I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I
>>> don't know did you played with Aquamail settins?
>>> 
>>> @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> S poštovanjem
>>> *Gordan Radić* 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
 I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other 

Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I always wanted the mute switch, when activated, to turn off all sounds 
generated by alerts and notifications, including VoiceOver, and this is 
how it worked for me for a very short period of time, maybe a few months 
with IOS 7. I'm not sure how Apple intended this to work though, and 
I've always found it to be inconsistent. This has always been a bit 
frustrating for me since I want to have my phone on in meetings, so I 
can step out when I get a notification that I'm expecting, but still 
have it silent so it doesn't interrupt the meeting. I also want to be 
able to toggle this behavior on and off and not have to go down a 
settings tree to find this switch. I must admit that after a year or so 
of not being able to figure out what combination of settings would get 
me the behavior I wanted, even through IOS updates, I kind of gave up 
trying, and I think I need to go back and give Ari's suggestion another 
chance.


On 26/08/16 15:20, Wayne Merritt wrote:

I have my phone set to this specific VoiceOver setting, and have found
that it too can be inconsistent at times. Another option to allow
notifications but not be alerted by them is to mute the sounds from
the phone, and also do a 3 finger double tap on the screen. This will
mute speech. This way, you still get notifications but they aren't
spoken and no sound comes through. I use this a lot when taking a nap
or in a movie. I still get all my notices but only have to worry about
the vibrations coming through. This would be an option if you did not
want to turn Do Not Disturb on but you wanted to not be alerted by
voice or sound when getting a notification. Perhaps there is no one
perfect solution in this situation.

JMt,
Wayne

On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks.

reggie & Lex

On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have VoiceOver not
speak notifications, but get a vibration when you receive one and your mute
switch is turned on. If this is the case, you want to turn off the setting
called always speak notifications in
settings/general/accessibility/VoiceOver.


Thanks,
Ari


On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Regina,

FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with announcing
notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like the quieter it is
in a meeting when I have the phone muted that VoiceOver blasts out the
notification. It is supposed to vibrate when a notification comes in and
the phone is muted but I'm also experiencing your issue inconsistently.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: update on my sound problem


I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications.
Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications and
only vibrate if enabled.  I think I am having brain block about these
features. [smiles)

reggie & Lex

On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
wrote:

Do not disturb and the mute switch are a bit different. Mute silences the
sounds from your phone and is on until you switch it off.

Do not disturb can be set up on a schedule, and it can be customized, so
for example, you can have the phone ring if anyone in your favorites calls
you but not otherwise. You can also have calls go through if their from
the same person and you get three of them in a short period of time.

Here's an article that explains the difference:
http://www.howtogeek.com/256984/whats-the-difference-between-do-not-disturb-and-mute-on-the-iphone/

On 24/08/16 19:35, Chip Orange wrote:

Hi Alan,



This is a good tip; but I would like to know, is this doing something
different from just use of the “mute” switch by the volume arrows?



Thanks,



Chip





*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:17 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: update on my sound problem



Regina,



I'm a bit unclear whether you got your sounds back from your update but
I will say there is an easy way to turn Do Not Disturb on and off:



1.   Place focus on the top line of the screen such as on the time or
other item there.

2.   Do a 3-finger swipe up to open the control center.

3.   Single finger swipe right until do not disturb is announced and
double tap to turn it on or off as needed.

4.   Use the scrub gesture to close the control center.



Alan Lemly



*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Regina Alvarado
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:21 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* update on my sound problem



OK, here is my update on sounds. This might help someone else when
checking through and doing all the 

Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Christopher Chaltain
When I saw this thread, I was a bit surprised since my first reaction 
was that deleting a bunch of messages was a bit easier in Aquamail then 
it is in the IOS Mail app, but after thinking about it further, I 
realized that it was about a push. In IOS, Maybe I'm missing something 
in IOS though. I usually read down through my in box and when I want to 
delete a message, I flick up and then double tap to delete. In Aquamail, 
I flick right once, double tap the select button and then move on. When 
I'm done, I delete all of the selected messages with a double tap on the 
move to delete button at the top of the screen. This feels like a push 
to me. While I'm reading a message, I just double tap the delete button 
in either app and then the next message comes up.


I have to admit though that I think the Mail app on IOS is amazing. In 
my opinion, the power and simplicity of it's interface is unparalleled. 
I spent a long time in Android looking for something similar before 
settling on Typemail and then Aquamail when the Typemail interface got a 
bit cluttered.


You're right about dictation, but I find Google does a better job with 
speech recognition and punctuation. I also find it pretty easy to find 
and double tap on the keyboard input button when I'm done dictating, but 
I agree, this isn't as nice as the double tap.


I actually like editing text in Android over the iPhone now. This is 
mostly because is so easy to switch granularity by flicking up or down 
as opposed to using the roter in Apple. I don't have anything against 
the roter, but I tend to have a lot of options in it, so sometimes it 
takes a few rotations to change the granularity.


On 26/08/16 19:36, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Gordon,
I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version of the
stock mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the mainstream
technical press. Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As for aqua mail, yes, I
have played with settings. I can certainly delete all of the messages in
my inbox quickly enough. But what I haven't found a way to do which I
can do on iOS, is to actually go through my mail and interact with it
efficiently,  Reading messages and replying as I wish, and or deleting
threads I don't want to read with just one flick of my finger as I go.
Google dictation does seem to be fairly accurate. Perhaps it is a little
bit more accurate for me than Apple. But because I have such a hard time
correcting mistakes, which it certainly does make, I would rather have
Apple, even if it's a little bit less accurate, because I can fix it
easier. I have heard that Siri is going to get much better in the next
version. Whether that will carry over to dictation remains to be seen of
course. Have you tried the app that Kevin recommended on here a little
while back, inbox by Gmail I think was the name? It only works for
Google accounts. So if you have things other than Google, then it's not
good for you.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić > wrote:


Hi!

@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it
would probably work on all iOS devices.

@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large
turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for
alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like its
options, features and tones of settings for fine tuning its operativity.

I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle
than iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything
with the app itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better
results with Google Speech Input or whatever is it called in English
than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native language.

I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I
don't know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.


S poštovanjem
*Gordan Radić* 

 

  
 


26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:

I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to 
the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two 
cents.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

I would agree with you there, 

Re: Adding a favorite to TuneIn Radio Pro

2016-08-26 Thread Richard Turner

Thanks Keith,
I'm glad to know the reordering stations will work.
I'll go do that soon.
Glad support got back to you so quickly.
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Aug 26, 2016, at 3:25 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> wrote:

Thanks very much for this, Richard.

At first, this didn't work. I tried it multiple times with different stations. 
No luck. My sighted daughter tried with VO off, several times with several 
stations, and no luck.

I wrote the TuneIn support with a 2nd request in the Subject and heard back 
within 30 minutes. They suggested trying Power off and on, but I had already 
done that. Then they suggested deleting and reinstalling the app, which I did. 
After signing in, all my old Favorites were there. When I followed your advice 
below, it worked!

I then asked TuneIn support about reoredering within Favorites. They said to 
just double tap and drag. I did that, but didn't hear any sounds while dragging 
up or down, but I did find that the Favorite on which I double tapped and held, 
did move. I did this twice, on different stations, and was able to reorder the 
stations within my Favorites, Unfortunately, though there was no audible 
feedback to let me know how far I was moving the Station.

Thanks again, Keith

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:38 AM
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Subject: Adding a favorite to TuneIn Radio Pro


I think I found the steps to add a station after searching that should work.
I just searched for "acb radio mainstream" and under where it says stations, I 
double tapped on acb radio mainstream, the talk of the blind community.
The next screen has a "play enabled button" and a "favorite button." I double 
tapped on play, then favorite.
It went to the screen where it starts playing and you have the exit the now 
playing screen button in the upper left.
On this page, there is also a favorite button. I double tapped on it and then 
it turned into a "favorite on" button, I double tapped on that and it was then 
selected.
I stopped playback, exited that screen, and switched to my favorites screen, 
and ACB Radio Mainstream was the last favorite on that page.
Of course, it took far longer to describe these steps than it took doing it.
But it works.
HTH,
Richard

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Re: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Deidre Muccio
Hey Dulce, if you did going to notifications and it look like you switch things 
on. Or, I think you still maybe need to look for a done button to make those 
new Settings permanent or until you want to change them again.

Deidre


> On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Chip,
>  
> Thanks for your detailed instructions.  Unfortunately, none of them worked.  
> Siri didn't detect new messages, nor did the notification center or voice 
> mail in doc.  I guess I have to call Apple, right?.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chip Orange
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail
>  
> Hi Dulce,
>  
> I’m afraid I don’t understand at all the answer you were given which talks 
> about “visual voice mail”.
>  
> My answer to you is that you do actively have to check for the presence of 
> voice mail, nothing is going to happen automatically which will bring it to 
> your attention.  You can ask Siri to “list new voice mail” when you get back 
> to your phone after a period where you were away or had it switched off, or 
> you can check the notifications by pulling down the notifications center (by 
> touching the statusbar at the top, then using the 3-finger swipe down 
> VoiceOver jesture), or you can look at the “phone” item in the “dock” at the 
> bottom of the home screen (if you have any voice mail it will show up there).
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM
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> Subject: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail
>  
> Hi, Everyone,
>  
> My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have 
> voice messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?
>  
> Dulce
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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Gordon,
I have heard there will be some changes in the upcoming version of the stock 
mail app on iOS. It has been talked about in the mainstream technical press. 
Hopefully, it isn't too awful. As for aqua mail, yes, I have played with 
settings. I can certainly delete all of the messages in my inbox quickly 
enough. But what I haven't found a way to do which I can do on iOS, is to 
actually go through my mail and interact with it efficiently,  Reading messages 
and replying as I wish, and or deleting threads I don't want to read with just 
one flick of my finger as I go. Google dictation does seem to be fairly 
accurate. Perhaps it is a little bit more accurate for me than Apple. But 
because I have such a hard time correcting mistakes, which it certainly does 
make, I would rather have Apple, even if it's a little bit less accurate, 
because I can fix it easier. I have heard that Siri is going to get much better 
in the next version. Whether that will carry over to dictation remains to be 
seen of course. Have you tried the app that Kevin recommended on here a little 
while back, inbox by Gmail I think was the name? It only works for Google 
accounts. So if you have things other than Google, then it's not good for you.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
> probably work on all iOS devices.
> 
> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
> in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
> on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of 
> settings for fine tuning its operativity.
> 
> I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than 
> iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app 
> itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google 
> Speech Input or whatever is it called   in English than Siri Dictation, 
> atleast for my native language.
> 
> I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
> know did you played with Aquamail settins?
> @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
>> I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
>> mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the 
>> mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in 
>> general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the 
>> fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get 
>> that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it 
>> easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this 
>> is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may 
>> differ. But that's my two cents.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of 
 different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you 
 can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the 
 delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty 
 the trash now and again! 
 
 
 It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in 
 my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a 
 keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long 
 message.
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
> On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am 
> curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the 
> native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I 
> don't like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large 
> quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. 
> It just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as 
> the Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.
> 
> Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really 
> like Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like 
> Aquamail for iOS.
> 
> Thanks for your answers!
> 
> 
> 
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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I doubt the form factor of the iPhone 7 will be different from the 6/6 Plus and 
6S/6S Plus. My guess is that the new phones this year will be exactly the same 
as for the last 2 years and next year there will be a new form factor.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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Mike Arrigo
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than likely, 
the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not sure if 
Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want the 
smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be interesting to 
see what Apple introduces though.
Original message:
> Hello Christine,

> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to 
> say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of 
> iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released 
> before using your upgrade privileges.

> Mark

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

> Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade 
> toward an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally 
> victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my 
> upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 
> comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather 
> quick succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the 
> SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. 
> From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve 
> improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
> amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the 
> ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.

> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
> wasting my upgrade or extra money.

> TIA.
> Christine

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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Bryan Schulz
Hi,

I don't know how that would be possible as the activation fees were waved and 
the second phone is on my account and shown as a $25 credit each month for the 
phone but I still have to pay for the data and protection plan.
Bryan


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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Wonder how the terms work? could a family member that only needed one, have two 
and sell the second?

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


Hi,

It depends on if you have a family member or another person who needs a phone.
At has a buy one get one free until the end of the month.
Bryan


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

If it were me, I would use the old phone until you see the 7 and what
it has to offer. You could still get the SE at that point if you want
and maybe get a better price after the new phone comes out.

On 8/26/16, Christine Grassman  wrote:
> Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or
> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main
> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and
> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as
> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>
> TIA.
> Christine
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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Bryan Schulz
Hi,

I had to go with the 6s because there was a dollar limit on the buy one-get one 
free.
I wanted to upgrade before no headphone jack on the 7's.
That's alright, thanks.
Bryan


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Bryan and all,
Regarding the phone's battery, if you have jus the phone itself
without any extra battery cases, then the 6S Plus battery would last
longer. However, if you were to invest in a MofiJuice Pack (probably
misspelled but you know what I mean), or an Apple Smart Battery Case
for the 6S, then your battery life for the 6S will almost be that of
the 6S Plus. Once when I was not able to charge my 6S with the Smart
Battery case over night, the phone and extra case battery lasted me
about 30 hours before I got down to 30 percent or less. This of course
depends on what you do and what apps are open.

Wayne

On 8/26/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
> Also, if you want the home button, which from what I read they could be
> removing it… don't quote me on that, you might want to consider one of the
> older models.
>
> Portia.
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise,
>> spend the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16
>> GB in this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the
>> phone with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with
>> other fully accessible storage.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
>>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is
>>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is
>>> also much cheaper than the other at $399.
>>>
>>>
 On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by
 a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an
 SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t
 want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so
 I am trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to
 gather, the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I
 do not care about, and unless there are any amazing features or
 improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary
 for Apple to wow me.

 In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7
 isn’t worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.

 TIA.
 Christine
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RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

2016-08-26 Thread Jeff Clark
Hello everyone,

What I do is take my thumb, cover the speaker at the bottom of the phone while 
dictating. This lowers the volume enough where it does not capture the 
voiceover.

Jeff

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

 

I've had this happen as well, but not very often. I just turn off speech with a 
three-finger double-tap, do a two-finger double-tap to sttart dictation, do 
another two-finger double-tap to stop dictation, then do another three-finger 
double-tap to turn speech back on when this issue comes up. Like I said, it's 
not too offen, and it's easy enough to deal with, if a bit annoying. What I'm 
more troubled by is the reports on AppleVis about battery life being reduced 
with iOS 9.3.4, in some cases quite seriously.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:

What usually happens to me in those instances is that the dictation sort of 
hangs. And then voiceover may start announcing random words, such as the last 
word I said or the last punctuation. And then I have to turn voiceover off, 
wait a couple of seconds, turn it back on, get rid of the junk and go on about 
my business. Sometimes the dictation hanging up lasts for a lot longer than 
just a couple of seconds. I have confirmed this on my two devices that are on 
iOS 9, as well as a friends iPhone 5s running iOS 9. So it isn't just me and my 
devices. Indeed, my friend is cited, and so voice over only got turned on for 
me to see if I could duplicate the problem on her phone. And it was easily done.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  > wrote:

I have sometimes come across situations where Voiceover started reading back 
what I dictated while I was still speaking. I just ignored it and it never 
seems to interfere with the accuracy of my dictation.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

 

Try using email from a share she say in Facebook or Safari. Or if you happen to 
use Newsify, try sharing an article from there. Dictate the message that you 
want to put in advance of your article. You will find the problem I guarantee 
it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Jeremy Gilley  > wrote:

Yeah,

For someone who uses dictation a lot, I have never came across this problem.

Guess I am just lucky that there is no bug in my version though I have the 
latest version.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

 

Interesting how not a single message about this issue was posted on this list. 
Dictation may not work in 9.3.4, but it definitely worked in previous iOS 9 
versions since I used it all the time before installing iOS 10 beta so I’m not 
sure why the article says this was broken since the beginning in iOS 9.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

 

I thought many of you would be interested in the following article:

Apple Confirms iOS 9.3.4 Has A Nasty Surprise

The iPhone 7 is very close 

  and the all singing all dancing iOS 10 

  will come with it. But right now most iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users are 
on iOS 9.3.4 and Apple   has confirmed 
to me it contains a nasty surprise that, for millions, will never be fixed… 

‘Great Features’ and ‘Nasty Surprises’ are my regular columns investigating 
operating system updates for the best features / biggest problems hidden behind 
the headlines.

The problem in iOS 9.3.4 is an incompatibility between VoiceOver and voice 
dictation which is hitting disabled and, in particular, blind users hard. In 
short: with VoiceOver   
enabled (it describes everything on your screen with a triple press of the home 
button) voice dictation is broken 

RE: App to schedule and record a radio show

2016-08-26 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi Candy and all.

Tunein has a feature where you can set a record time for a stream, as well as 
specify how long to record it.  I think, however, that you have to have Tunein 
unlocked and displaying to have this to work.  I could be wrong with my info, 
but I know that it will let you record a stream.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

16 gig is large compared to what I used to have.  I had a 5c with 8 gig of 
storeage.  Earlier this year I got a 6s plus with 128 gig of storeage.  A 
couple of weeks ago I gave my old iPhone to my Niece.  I'm thrilled with all 
the extra storeage that I now have.

Have a blessed day and don't work too hard.
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Chip Orange
Hi Dulce,

 

There’s another thing you can check before you call:

 

Go into Settings, and into Notifications, and then go down through all the apps 
until you come to Phone and go into the Phone settings for notifications by 
double tapping it.

 

 

In here you have a lot of control over the different types of phone 
notifications, so make sure they are all set to “on”.

 

Hth,

 

Chip

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi, Chip,

 

Thanks for your detailed instructions.  Unfortunately, none of them worked.  
Siri didn't detect new messages, nor did the notification center or voice mail 
in doc.  I guess I have to call Apple, right?.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi Dulce,

 

I’m afraid I don’t understand at all the answer you were given which talks 
about “visual voice mail”.

 

My answer to you is that you do actively have to check for the presence of 
voice mail, nothing is going to happen automatically which will bring it to 
your attention.  You can ask Siri to “list new voice mail” when you get back to 
your phone after a period where you were away or had it switched off, or you 
can check the notifications by pulling down the notifications center (by 
touching the statusbar at the top, then using the 3-finger swipe down VoiceOver 
jesture), or you can look at the “phone” item in the “dock” at the bottom of 
the home screen (if you have any voice mail it will show up there).

 

Chip

 

 

 

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi, Everyone,

 

My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have voice 
messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?

 

Dulce

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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread englishrider91
What do you mean, there's going to be a large turnaround the mail app's 
interface in iOS 10?


Thanks,
Ari

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> @Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad, it would 
> probably work on all iOS devices.
> 
> @Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a large turnaround 
> in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for alternatives. I used Aquamail 
> on some Android devices and I like its options, features and tones of 
> settings for fine tuning its operativity.
> 
> I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to handle than 
> iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do anything with the app 
> itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far better results with Google 
> Speech Input or whatever is it called   in English than Siri Dictation, 
> atleast for my native language.
> 
> I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way so I don't 
> know did you played with Aquamail settins?
> @Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
>  
>  
> 26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je napisao/la:
>> I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
>> mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the 
>> mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in 
>> general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the 
>> fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get 
>> that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it 
>> easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this 
>> is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may 
>> differ. But that's my two cents.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  wrote:
 
 I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of 
 different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you 
 can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the 
 delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty 
 the trash now and again! 
 
 
 It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in 
 my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a 
 keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long 
 message.
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
> On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Gordon,
> I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am 
> curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the 
> native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I 
> don't like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large 
> quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. 
> It just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as 
> the Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.
> 
> Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really 
> like Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like 
> Aquamail for iOS.
> 
> Thanks for your answers!
> 
> 
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Re: Pillow Speakers:

2016-08-26 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
Hi Theresa,  do you happen to know which make they are and model, if possible, 
please? Im looking for some also and fancy trying yours as I know you appeared 
not to have any difficulty with the volume level. Don't worry if you ac't get 
the info for me, but if you can then it would be most interesting and help;. 
Thanks. Carol P - Sent from my iPhone using Smart Beetle

On 26 Aug 2016, at 22:25, Teresa Christian  wrote:

I got a pillow speaker at the CCrane company for a radio but I never
use it on the radio but on my iPhone all the time.

It doesn't have a bolume control on the thing itself but control that
via the iPhone. I put it between my ear and the pillow. It came with a
little padded pillow that it goes in so there is a coushin around the
speaker.

Hope that helps or at least is somewhat interesting.

Teresa☺



> On 8/26/16, Donald Moore  wrote:
> Are there any suggestions out there for good pillow speakers for the iPhone
> 6S Plus?  I tried two different ones I found on Amazon, but the volume is
> way too low to hear through the pillow.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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RE: Adding a favorite to TuneIn Radio Pro

2016-08-26 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Thanks very much for this, Richard.

At first, this didn’t work. I tried it multiple times with different stations. 
No luck. My sighted daughter tried with VO off, several times with several 
stations, and no luck.

I wrote the TuneIn support with a 2nd request in the Subject and heard back 
within 30 minutes. They suggested trying Power off and on, but I had already 
done that. Then they suggested deleting and reinstalling the app, which I did. 
After signing in, all my old Favorites were there. When I followed your advice 
below, it worked!

I then asked TuneIn support about reoredering within Favorites. They said to 
just double tap and drag. I did that, but didn’t hear any sounds while dragging 
up or down, but I did find that the Favorite on which I double tapped and held, 
did move. I did this twice, on different stations, and was able to reorder the 
stations within my Favorites, Unfortunately, though there was no audible 
feedback to let me know how far I was moving the Station.

Thanks again, Keith

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Subject: Adding a favorite to TuneIn Radio Pro


I think I found the steps to add a station after searching that should work.
I just searched for "acb radio mainstream" and under where it says stations, I 
double tapped on acb radio mainstream, the talk of the blind community.
The next screen has a "play enabled button" and a "favorite button." I double 
tapped on play, then favorite.
It went to the screen where it starts playing and you have the exit the now 
playing screen button in the upper left.
On this page, there is also a favorite button. I double tapped on it and then 
it turned into a "favorite on" button, I double tapped on that and it was then 
selected.
I stopped playback, exited that screen, and switched to my favorites screen, 
and ACB Radio Mainstream was the last favorite on that page.
Of course, it took far longer to describe these steps than it took doing it.
But it works.
HTH,
Richard

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RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Hi, Chip,

 

Thanks for your detailed instructions.  Unfortunately, none of them worked.
Siri didn't detect new messages, nor did the notification center or voice
mail in doc.  I guess I have to call Apple, right?.

 

  _  

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi Dulce,

 

I'm afraid I don't understand at all the answer you were given which talks
about "visual voice mail".

 

My answer to you is that you do actively have to check for the presence of
voice mail, nothing is going to happen automatically which will bring it to
your attention.  You can ask Siri to "list new voice mail" when you get back
to your phone after a period where you were away or had it switched off, or
you can check the notifications by pulling down the notifications center (by
touching the statusbar at the top, then using the 3-finger swipe down
VoiceOver jesture), or you can look at the "phone" item in the "dock" at the
bottom of the home screen (if you have any voice mail it will show up
there).

 

Chip

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi, Everyone,

 

My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have
voice messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?

 

Dulce

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
If the smaller screen is prefered, then I would just go for the iphone 
SE, it was just released this year, so it's not outdated, that will 
probably be my next one too, I prefer the smaller size.

Original message:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I 
can't imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of 
people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they 
do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in 
the past. Smile.

Mary




Sent from my iPhone



On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:


This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, 
not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, 
so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good 
choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.

Original message:

Hello Christine,


Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to 
say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of 
iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released 
before using your upgrade privileges.



Mark



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward 
an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally 
victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my 
upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 
comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather 
quick succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the 
SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From 
what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve improved 
camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any amazing 
features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me.


In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
wasting my upgrade or extra money.



TIA.
Christine



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RE: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Chip Orange
Hi Dulce,

 

I’m afraid I don’t understand at all the answer you were given which talks 
about “visual voice mail”.

 

My answer to you is that you do actively have to check for the presence of 
voice mail, nothing is going to happen automatically which will bring it to 
your attention.  You can ask Siri to “list new voice mail” when you get back to 
your phone after a period where you were away or had it switched off, or you 
can check the notifications by pulling down the notifications center (by 
touching the statusbar at the top, then using the 3-finger swipe down VoiceOver 
jesture), or you can look at the “phone” item in the “dock” at the bottom of 
the home screen (if you have any voice mail it will show up there).

 

Chip

 

 

 

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

 

Hi, Everyone,

 

My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have voice 
messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?

 

Dulce

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RE: Pillow Speakers:

2016-08-26 Thread Donald Moore
Thanks.  Sounds like a good way to go!!



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Subject: Re: Pillow Speakers:

I got a pillow speaker at the CCrane company for a radio but I never use it on 
the radio but on my iPhone all the time.

It doesn't have a bolume control on the thing itself but control that via the 
iPhone. I put it between my ear and the pillow. It came with a little padded 
pillow that it goes in so there is a coushin around the speaker.

Hope that helps or at least is somewhat interesting.

Teresa☺



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> Are there any suggestions out there for good pillow speakers for the 
> iPhone 6S Plus?  I tried two different ones I found on Amazon, but the 
> volume is way too low to hear through the pillow.
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> Thanks in advance.
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Re: 6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Deidre Muccio
What is call visual voicemail does not show in less you have cellular data on. 
It will not show even if the tab is selected for voice messages.'s up you have 
to have cellular data on. So turn cellular data on hit on the voice tab the 
last one at the bottom row and while law you'll probably start to hear Boing 
Boing going in though all your old messages messages will start to appear.

Deidre


> On Aug 26, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn 
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> Hi, Everyone,
>  
> My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have 
> voice messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?
>  
> Dulce
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Re: Pillow Speakers:

2016-08-26 Thread Teresa Christian
I got a pillow speaker at the CCrane company for a radio but I never
use it on the radio but on my iPhone all the time.

It doesn't have a bolume control on the thing itself but control that
via the iPhone. I put it between my ear and the pillow. It came with a
little padded pillow that it goes in so there is a coushin around the
speaker.

Hope that helps or at least is somewhat interesting.

Teresa☺



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6S not Alerting Me to Voice Mail

2016-08-26 Thread Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Hi, Everyone,

 

My 6S does not alert me to the presence of voice mail even when I do have
voice messages.  Is there a setting I'm missing to make this happen?

 

Dulce

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Re: An Apple TV 4 Question

2016-08-26 Thread MamaPeach
Put the word "movies" in the search field in the App store, you will find 
several listed that are totally free.


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Subject: An Apple tv Qu4estion

Hello.  I just recently purchased the new Apple tv.  I remember when
it first came out last year and was being discussed here, some one
said there was an app on it that was for older movies or tv shows that
were in the public domaine.  Can any one tell me what the name of the
app is, or what I should search for?  My interest is classic tv and
movies and I am very interested in something like this.
Thanks for any help,
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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Gordan Radić

  
  
Hi!
@Sieghard; I was mentioning iOS meaning iPhone, iPod Touch or
  iPad, it would probably work on all iOS devices.
@Mary; I like the stock app very much but there's gonna be a
  large turnaround in iOS 10 with its interface so I'm looking for
  alternatives. I used Aquamail on some Android devices and I like
  its options, features and tones of settings for fine tuning its
  operativity.
I agree Android approach to navigating and editing is harder to
  handle than iOS but as you correctly said, it doesn't have to do
  anything with the app itself. Regarding dictation, I'm getting far
  better results with Google Speech Input or whatever is it called
  in English than Siri Dictation, atleast for my native language.
I can manage multiple messages on both apps in pretty similar way
  so I don't know did you played with Aquamail settins?

@Carol; glad you understand my needs xD.



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26.8.2016. u 18:33, Mary Otten je
  napisao/la:


  I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two cents.
Mary


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On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  wrote:

I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and again! 


It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.


Carol P





  On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
Hi Gordon,
I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.


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On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:

Hi!

I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for iOS.

Thanks for your answers!



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Re: update on my sound problem

2016-08-26 Thread Wayne Merritt
I have my phone set to this specific VoiceOver setting, and have found
that it too can be inconsistent at times. Another option to allow
notifications but not be alerted by them is to mute the sounds from
the phone, and also do a 3 finger double tap on the screen. This will
mute speech. This way, you still get notifications but they aren't
spoken and no sound comes through. I use this a lot when taking a nap
or in a movie. I still get all my notices but only have to worry about
the vibrations coming through. This would be an option if you did not
want to turn Do Not Disturb on but you wanted to not be alerted by
voice or sound when getting a notification. Perhaps there is no one
perfect solution in this situation.

JMt,
Wayne

On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>
> I think this may help me too Ary. Thanks.
>
> reggie & Lex
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 6:38 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Alan, if I understand your message correctly, you want to have VoiceOver not
> speak notifications, but get a vibration when you receive one and your mute
> switch is turned on. If this is the case, you want to turn off the setting
> called always speak notifications in
> settings/general/accessibility/VoiceOver.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ari
>
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>
>> Regina,
>>
>> FYI, my iPhone 6 running iOS 9.3.4 is often inconsistent with announcing
>> notifications when I have my phone muted. It seems like the quieter it is
>> in a meeting when I have the phone muted that VoiceOver blasts out the
>> notification. It is supposed to vibrate when a notification comes in and
>> the phone is muted but I'm also experiencing your issue inconsistently.
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Regina Alvarado
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: update on my sound problem
>>
>>
>> I tried muting my phone on a phone call. I still got notifications.
>> Reading this article I am led to believe it will stop notifications and
>> only vibrate if enabled.  I think I am having brain block about these
>> features. [smiles)
>>
>> reggie & Lex
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 9:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Do not disturb and the mute switch are a bit different. Mute silences the
>> sounds from your phone and is on until you switch it off.
>>
>> Do not disturb can be set up on a schedule, and it can be customized, so
>> for example, you can have the phone ring if anyone in your favorites calls
>> you but not otherwise. You can also have calls go through if their from
>> the same person and you get three of them in a short period of time.
>>
>> Here's an article that explains the difference:
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/256984/whats-the-difference-between-do-not-disturb-and-mute-on-the-iphone/
>>
>> On 24/08/16 19:35, Chip Orange wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a good tip; but I would like to know, is this doing something
>> different from just use of the “mute” switch by the volume arrows?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Alan Lemly
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:17 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: update on my sound problem
>>
>>
>>
>> Regina,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm a bit unclear whether you got your sounds back from your update but
>> I will say there is an easy way to turn Do Not Disturb on and off:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.   Place focus on the top line of the screen such as on the time or
>> other item there.
>>
>> 2.   Do a 3-finger swipe up to open the control center.
>>
>> 3.   Single finger swipe right until do not disturb is announced and
>> double tap to turn it on or off as needed.
>>
>> 4.   Use the scrub gesture to close the control center.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Lemly
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Regina Alvarado
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:21 PM
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* update on my sound problem
>>
>>
>>
>> OK, here is my update on sounds. This might help someone else when
>> checking through and doing all the things that could be wrong.
>>
>> I have been desperate to find a way to stop notifications when I am on
>> the phone and especially when reading. I decided to try do not disturb.
>> You cannot just turn do not disturb on and off. I entered it and turned
>> on manual and then at the bottom under heading silent selected always.
>> The thought that I might have do not disturb on persuaded me to check.
>> Um, forgot to switch it back to schedule and from always to on locked
>> screen. Thank you for that possibility! I sure wish Apple would give an
>> on and off to notifications. It would
>> be my most needed improvement!
>>
>>
>>
>> reggie & Lex
>>
>> --
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Wonder how the terms work? could a family member that only needed one, have two 
and sell the second?

- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Schulz" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


Hi,

It depends on if you have a family member or another person who needs a phone.
At has a buy one get one free until the end of the month.
Bryan


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Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

If it were me, I would use the old phone until you see the 7 and what
it has to offer. You could still get the SE at that point if you want
and maybe get a better price after the new phone comes out.

On 8/26/16, Christine Grassman  wrote:
> Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or
> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main
> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and
> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as
> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>
> TIA.
> Christine
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Given there's a choice, I'd borrow the 5C and wait.  Using upgrade and 
regretting it next month would be a bummer. You could still 
have an sE or the new equivalent, or even find it reduced in price once it 
wasn't a front line product.
don't think we ever had a phone at launch, though did have the iPqad Mini when 
it first came out.

BobH.
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:03 PM
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone 7, 
based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally 
victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade 
for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the 
iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather 
quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with 
the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main 
features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and 
unless there are any amazing features or improvements, 
I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.

In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
wasting my upgrade or extra money.

TIA.
Christine

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Wayne Merritt
Bryan and all,
Regarding the phone's battery, if you have jus the phone itself
without any extra battery cases, then the 6S Plus battery would last
longer. However, if you were to invest in a MofiJuice Pack (probably
misspelled but you know what I mean), or an Apple Smart Battery Case
for the 6S, then your battery life for the 6S will almost be that of
the 6S Plus. Once when I was not able to charge my 6S with the Smart
Battery case over night, the phone and extra case battery lasted me
about 30 hours before I got down to 30 percent or less. This of course
depends on what you do and what apps are open.

Wayne

On 8/26/16, Portia Scott  wrote:
> Also, if you want the home button, which from what I read they could be
> removing it… don't quote me on that, you might want to consider one of the
> older models.
>
> Portia.
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>
>> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise,
>> spend the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16
>> GB in this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the
>> phone with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with
>> other fully accessible storage.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>
>>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is
>>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is
>>> also much cheaper than the other at $399.
>>>
>>>
 On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by
 a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an
 SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t
 want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so
 I am trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to
 gather, the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I
 do not care about, and unless there are any amazing features or
 improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary
 for Apple to wow me.

 In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7
 isn’t worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.

 TIA.
 Christine
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Re: RS Games on the IPhone

2016-08-26 Thread Kathy Metters
Yes I thought it was just unique to me. I experienced this behavior a lot in 
battleship

Katie Lady Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2016, at 7:39 PM, Blind Treasures {Your One Stop Shop} 
>  wrote:
> 
> I downloaded the new RS Games app onto my IPhone 6s and am having a couple 
> issues that I’m wondering if it is just me. Firstly, whenever I send a chat 
> message the background music goes away. Secondly, the speech will go away in 
> the middle of a game and I will have to dump the game and go back in. This 
> happens quite often. I tried unloading voiceover and just use the built in 
> speech but does the same thing. This happens with both the Alex voice and any 
> of the others. Is anyone else finding these bugs as well?
>  
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An Apple tv Qu4estion

2016-08-26 Thread Patti Johnson
Hello.  I just recently purchased the new Apple tv.  I remember when
it first came out last year and was being discussed here, some one
said there was an app on it that was for older movies or tv shows that
were in the public domaine.  Can any one tell me what the name of the
app is, or what I should search for?  My interest is classic tv and
movies and I am very interested in something like this.
Thanks for any help,
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Re: A Fabulously Fun and VoiceOver-Accessible iOS App

2016-08-26 Thread Kristeen Hughes
Does anyone know if there is an international one?

Kristeen

> On Aug 25, 2016, at 9:58 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Did you know that today is National banana split day?  
> 
> You would have if you had the National Day Calendar app installed on your
> iOS device.
> 
> This is a marvelously fun and socially engaging app, for all.  A definite
> must-have solution for anyone who wants to be in the "know."  
> 
> A couple of things to note for VoiceOver users:
> 
> 1.
> This is a free app so the last line of the home screen displays a banner
> advertisement.
> 
> 2.
> Should you wish to change to any date other than the current one, in the
> upper left corner of the calendar is a mislabeled button.  However, since it
> is the only button on the display, other than the search button, its
> function is obvious.
> 
> 3.
> Currently, there is a Search results VoiceOver bug which prevents VoiceOver
> from accessing the search results if text is entered in the search field;
> however, simply activating the search button does result in a search list
> that is VoiceOver accessible.  This will make sense, upon use.
> 
> While the three points, listed above can be somewhat frustrating, the
> primary aspects of the app are VoiceOver accessible including the ability to
> change dates and see the national holidays they represent.  
> 
> If you download the app, please write a review on the App Store describing
> the VoiceOver bugs you discover.
> 
> One final thing:  Single-Finger, double-tap on any holiday to display a list
> of options for that holiday including the ability to share it on social
> media.
> 
> Okay, the following is the App Store description and link to National Day
> Calendar.
> 
> Enjoy,
> 
> Mark
> 
> National Day Calendar
> By intheLab, LLC
> 
> Description:
> 
> Everyday is National "Something" Day!!!
> 
> "National Day Calendar 2016" is a super simple calendar app to keep up with
> all the "national" days of 2016. The calendar allows you to browse each day
> individually, select a specific day to see what's being celebrated, or
> search a topic and see if and when its being celebrated. Users can tap on a
> listed day to share it or view what others are sharing on Instagram, Twitter
> and Facebook. More and more people are declaring special national days, so
> stay tuned for future updates.
> 
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Pillow Speakers:

2016-08-26 Thread Donald Moore
Are there any suggestions out there for good pillow speakers for the iPhone
6S Plus?  I tried two different ones I found on Amazon, but the volume is
way too low to hear through the pillow.  

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Portia Scott
Also, if you want the home button, which from what I read they could be 
removing it… don't quote me on that, you might want to consider one of the 
older models.

Portia.
> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
> the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in 
> this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone 
> with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other fully 
> accessible storage.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also 
>> much cheaper than the other at $399.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>>   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
>>> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
>>> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
>>> or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
>>> the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
>>> trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
>>> screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, 
>>> the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
>>> about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
>>> I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>> 
>>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
>>> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
>>> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>> 
>>> TIA.
>>> Christine
>> 
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Re: App to schedule and record a radio show

2016-08-26 Thread Candy Lowe
Wayne, off hand, I don't know of an app that would do that, but, it could be 
done with total recorder on the computer.
The ootunes app allows you to record, but, to my knowledge, there is no way to 
set a timer on it.  I think that has be done manually.  I will be interested to 
know if you find an app to do this.  

Candy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
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> Greetings. I am looking for an app to schedule and record a radio show
> on a weekly basis. There is a show that I like to listen to overnight
> but it is broadcast from midnight to 4am my time Friday mornings. Is
> there an app I can schedule a weekly recording of this show? I have
> TuneIn Radio and ooTunes but I don't know if either would do this or
> how to set it up. I've tried to look for podcasts of the show but
> can't find them. I'm probably not using the right keywords. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Wayne
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
That is a one off in my opinion. I could be wrong, but given the fact that the 
SE came out what was it, spring? It's still selling well. If they come out with 
a new one now, with no good reason to do so,… Well, we'll see.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:44 AM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> I would TendToDisagree
> 
> Apple has Since TimCook TookTheHelm of Apple as its CEO Release 2 iOSDevices 
> WithIn TheSameYear ... I'm Referring to The iPad ... When Apple Altered the 
> iOSDevice's ChargingPort to the LighteningConnector  IN 2012
> At 09:42 AM 8/26/2016, you wrote:
>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
>> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who 
>> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that 
>> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>> >
>> > This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
>> > likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not 
>> > sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if 
>> > you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should 
>> > be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>> > Original message:
>> >> Hello Christine,
>> >
>> >> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
>> >> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, 
>> >> I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using 
>> >> your upgrade privileges.
>> >
>> >> Mark
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> >> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>> >> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>> >
>> >>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward 
>> >> an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized 
>> >> by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for 
>> >> an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I 
>> >> don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick 
>> >> succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I 
>> >> like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7.  From what 
>> >> I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve improved 
>> >> camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any amazing 
>> >> features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
>> >> anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>> >
>> >> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
>> >> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
>> >> wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>> >
>> >> TIA.
>> >> Christine
>> >
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Robin

I would TendToDisagree

Apple has Since TimCook TookTheHelm of Apple as 
its CEO Release 2 iOSDevices WithIn TheSameYear 
... I'm Referring to The iPad ... When Apple 
Altered the iOSDevice's ChargingPort to the LighteningConnector  IN 2012

At 09:42 AM 8/26/2016, you wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked 
the smaller screen. I can't imagine Apple 
introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of 
people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to 
be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>
> This may also depend on whether you want the 
larger screen, more than likely, the iphone 7 
will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus 
do, not sure if Apple will have a newer SE 
version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want 
the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a 
good choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.

> Original message:
>> Hello Christine,
>
>> Were I you, given the situation as you have 
described it, this is to say, you have access 
to an interim phone to use until the release of 
iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until 
iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade privileges.

>
>> Mark
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christine Grassman

>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>
>>Is there any reason to wait a few 
weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone 7, 
based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was 
brutally victimized by a car backing up today, 
and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an 
SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the 
iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle 
of syncing two new phones in rather quick 
succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. 
 From what I’m able to gather, the main 
features of interest involve improved camera, 
which I do not care about, and unless there are 
any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.

>
>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for 
a few weeks; or 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, 
and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.

>
>> TIA.
>> Christine
>
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Rajmund
No, I agree with you there. Although, again that's personal preference. I'd 
either use my braille sense or a  stream for it, but if anything, I prefer 
books in text. Still, if we find out more about what the phone could be used 
for, we may be able to help more accurately. 



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 6:30 pm
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

>
>
> True enough. Don't forget audiobooks. Between music and audiobooks, there is 
> no way 16 would do it for me.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, it depends on what you use it for, though. I still have plenty of room 
> > on my 16 GB 5S, and that even has the beta, which, as we know, takes room 
> > to even  install, but would rather not say too much. Still, if you don't 
> > keep pictures, videos, and music, you should be good.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sent from a Braille Sense 
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Mary Otten  
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:30 pm
> > Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, 
> >> spend the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 
> >> GB in this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the 
> >> phone with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with 
> >> other fully accessible storage.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
> >>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is 
> >>> also much cheaper than the other at $399.
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>    Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
>  iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by 
>  a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an 
>  SE, or using my daughter's old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don't 
>  want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so 
>  I am trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
>  screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I'm able to 
>  gather, the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I 
>  do not care about, and unless there are any amazing features or 
>  improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary 
>  for Apple to wow me.
>  
>  In short: 1. Take my daughter's old 5C for a few weeks; or
>  2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 
>  isn't worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>  
>  TIA.
>  Christine
> >>> 
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
True enough. Don't forget audiobooks. Between music and audiobooks, there is no 
way 16 would do it for me.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:24 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi, it depends on what you use it for, though. I still have plenty of room on 
> my 16 GB 5S, and that even has the beta, which, as we know, takes room to 
> even  install, but would rather not say too much. Still, if you don't keep 
> pictures, videos, and music, you should be good.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Mary Otten  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:30 pm
> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
>> 
>> 
>> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
>> the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in 
>> this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone 
>> with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other 
>> fully accessible storage.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
>>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also 
>>> much cheaper than the other at $399.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter's old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don't want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I'm able to gather, 
 the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
 about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
 I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
 
 In short: 1. Take my daughter's old 5C for a few weeks; or
 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn't 
 worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
 
 TIA.
 Christine
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Rajmund
Hi, it depends on what you use it for, though. I still have plenty of room on 
my 16 GB 5S, and that even has the beta, which, as we know, takes room to even  
install, but would rather not say too much. Still, if you don't keep pictures, 
videos, and music, you should be good.



Sent from a Braille Sense 

- Original Message -
From: Mary Otten  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

>
>
> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
> the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in 
> this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone 
> with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other fully 
> accessible storage.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> > 
> > The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
> > nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also 
> > much cheaper than the other at $399.
> > 
> > 
> >> On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
> >>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
> >> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
> >> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
> >> or using my daughter's old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don't want 
> >> the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
> >> trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
> >> screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I'm able to gather, 
> >> the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
> >> about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
> >> I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
> >> 
> >> In short: 1. Take my daughter's old 5C for a few weeks; or
> >> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn't 
> >> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
> >> 
> >> TIA.
> >> Christine
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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Bryan Schulz
Hi,

would you say the 6s or the 6s+ battery lasts longer?
Bryan


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality 
is nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is 
also much cheaper than the other at $399.


On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or 
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the 
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying 
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait 
> and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of 
> interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there 
> are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the 
> ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>
> TIA.
> Christine
>

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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Bryan Schulz
Hi,

It depends on if you have a family member or another person who needs a phone.
At has a buy one get one free until the end of the month.
Bryan


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimber Gardner
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

If it were me, I would use the old phone until you see the 7 and what
it has to offer. You could still get the SE at that point if you want
and maybe get a better price after the new phone comes out.

On 8/26/16, Christine Grassman  wrote:
>   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
> iPhone
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or
> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main
> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and
> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as
> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>
> TIA.
> Christine
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Wayne Merritt
I've read rumors that there will be a 32 GB option of the iPhone 7. We
will see in a few weeks when we know more, but that was one of many
rumors of the new iPhone. I hope they do though, since 16 GB is
extremely small. Good for those on a budget, but not much else.

Wayne

On 8/26/16, Mary Otten  wrote:
> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't
> imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who
> just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that
> making people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
>>
>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than
>> likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not
>> sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if
>> you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should
>> be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
>> Original message:
>>> Hello Christine,
>>
>>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say,
>>> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7,
>>> I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using
>>> your upgrade privileges.
>>
>>> Mark
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Christine Grassman
>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
>>
>>>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward
>>> an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized
>>> by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for
>>> an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I
>>> don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick
>>> succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I
>>> like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what
>>> I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve improved
>>> camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any amazing
>>> features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year
>>> anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>>
>>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my
>>> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth
>>> wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>>
>>> TIA.
>>> Christine
>>
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller screen. I can't 
imagine Apple introducing a new  small screen model. a lot of people who just 
bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad if they do. Not that making 
people mad has stopped Apple from doing things in the past. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than likely, 
> the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, not sure if 
> Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, so if you want 
> the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good choice, should be 
> interesting to see what Apple introduces though.
> Original message:
>> Hello Christine,
> 
>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, 
>> you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I 
>> would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your 
>> upgrade privileges.
> 
>> Mark
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Christine Grassman
>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
>>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
>> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
>> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or 
>> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the 
>> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying 
>> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or 
>> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main 
>> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and 
>> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as 
>> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
> 
>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
>> upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
>> wasting my upgrade or extra money.
> 
>> TIA.
>> Christine
> 
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
I hear you about  t-mo. That's all they had here. I didn't get one. I will soon 
however.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:36 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> yeah I plan to upgrade that to the 64 soon. It's all that T-mobile had when I 
> bought it. I'm not good with patients, so I wanted it that day.
> 
> 
>> On 8/26/2016 11:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>> That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
>> the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in 
>> this day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone 
>> with only 16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other 
>> fully accessible storage.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
>>> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also 
>>> much cheaper than the other at $399.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
 iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
 car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, 
 or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want 
 the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am 
 trying to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller 
 screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, 
 the main features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care 
 about, and unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure 
 I may as well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
 
 In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
 worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
 
 TIA.
 Christine
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more than 
likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 and 6 plus do, 
not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the iphone 7 specs, 
so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE might be a good 
choice, should be interesting to see what Apple introduces though.

Original message:

Hello Christine,


Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to 
say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the release of 
iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released 
before using your upgrade privileges.



Mark



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Christine Grassman

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE


Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade 
toward an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally 
victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my 
upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 
comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing two new phones in rather 
quick succession, so I am trying to figure out whether to just get the 
SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. From 
what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest involve improved 
camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any amazing 
features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me.


In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my 
upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
wasting my upgrade or extra money.



TIA.
Christine



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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Gordon
yeah I plan to upgrade that to the 64 soon. It's all that T-mobile had 
when I bought it. I'm not good with patients, so I wanted it that day.



On 8/26/2016 11:30 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in this 
day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone with only 
16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other fully accessible 
storage.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:

The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is nice 
as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also much 
cheaper than the other at $399.



On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone 
7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car backing 
up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or using my 
daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of 
syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with 
the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest 
involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me.

In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
wasting my upgrade or extra money.

TIA.
Christine

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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
I have never used aqua male with a keyboard. The other thing I prefer about 
mail on iOS as opposed to android, and this really isn't specific to the mail 
itself, has to do with dictation and interacting with editible text in general. 
I like the fact that I can easily stop dictation in iOS. I like the fact that I 
get a tone telling me that dictation has stopped. I don't get that with 
android, except when doing Google voice searches. I also find it easier to get 
around in the text and make corrections. I realize that this is not specific to 
the mail client. And other people's experiences may differ. But that's my two 
cents.
Mary


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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:28 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
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> 
> I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of different 
> methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you can't select 
> and delete all at once and they have to go first to the delete bin, it's 
> still more efficient and doesn't take long just to empty the trash now and 
> again! 
> 
> 
> It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone in my 
> hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having a keyboard; 
> but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a long message.
> 
> 
> Carol P
> 
> 
> 
>> On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi Gordon,
>> I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am 
>> curious what you specifically like about it over what's available in the 
>> native iOS mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't 
>> like it, principally because it's not as efficient to delete large 
>> quantities of mail. I shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It 
>> just doesn't let me go through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the 
>> Apple client does. That's why am curious why you like it.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
>>> Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail 
>>> for iOS.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your answers!
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
That's $399 for a 16 GB. If you're OK with that, go for it. Otherwise, spend 
the extra hundred and get more space. I can't imagine using only 16 GB in this 
day and age. Apple really should be ashamed for putting out the phone with only 
16 GB, since they have no means of  adding to that with other fully accessible 
storage.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality is 
> nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is also 
> much cheaper than the other at $399.
> 
> 
>> On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
>> iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a 
>> car backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or 
>> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the 
>> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying 
>> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or 
>> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main 
>> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and 
>> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as 
>> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>> 
>> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
>> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
>> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>> 
>> TIA.
>> Christine
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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
I would agree with you there, Mary. Because there are a couple of 
different methods you can deal with email on the IOS device, though you 
can't select and delete all at once and they have to go first to the 
delete bin, it's still more efficient and doesn't take long just to 
empty the trash now and again! 



It's one of those things where I really like doing email with the phone 
in my hand as there's so little movement involved, as opposed to having 
a keyboard; but I do keep the keyboard out in case I want to write a 
long message.



Carol P



On 26/08/2016 17:16, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Gordon,
I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious 
what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS 
mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, 
principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I 
shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go 
through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's 
why am curious why you like it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 26, 2016, at 2:11 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:

Hi!

I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for 
iOS.

Thanks for your answers!



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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Gordon
The SE is a really good phone with awesome battery life. Sound quality 
is nice as well. If you like the smaller screen, go for it. The phone is 
also much cheaper than the other at $399.



On 8/26/2016 11:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:

Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or using 
my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of 
syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
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the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest 
involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me.

In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
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wasting my upgrade or extra money.

TIA.
Christine



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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
 Hi Christine,
Here is another possible point in favor of getting the iPhone now rather than 
waiting. If you are the type who does not like to rush out and get the first 
version of a new OS that comes out, getting the phone now will mean that you 
can keep iOS 9 until you are satisfied that I OS X is going to work for you. If 
you don't care about that, or perhaps you've been using the beta or you know 
people who have, and they told you that it works great with voiceover, and this 
is not a consideration. Otherwise, getting the phone now will alleviate the 
need to jump right in when the new OS is first out.
Mary


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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:14 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Christine,
> 
> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, you 
> have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I would 
> recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade 
> privileges.  
> 
> Mark
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christine Grassman
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE
> 
>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone 
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or 
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the 
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying 
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait 
> and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of 
> interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there 
> are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the 
> ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me. 
> 
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my upgrade, 
> get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth wasting my 
> upgrade or extra money.
> 
> TIA.
> Christine
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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
Hi Gordon,
I don't think there is anything quite like aqua mail for iOS. But I am curious 
what you specifically like about it over what's available in the native iOS 
mail client. I have aqua mail on an android device, and I don't like it, 
principally because it's not as efficient to delete large quantities of mail. I 
shouldn't say I don't like it. It's a fine client. It just doesn't let me go 
through large volumes of mail as efficiently as the Apple client does. That's 
why am curious why you like it.


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> Hi!
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> I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.
> 
> Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
> Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail 
> for iOS.
> 
> Thanks for your answers!
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RE: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Christine,

Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, this is to say, you 
have access to an interim phone to use until the release of iPhone 7, I would 
recommend that you wait until iPhone 7 is released before using your upgrade 
privileges.  

Mark

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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or using 
my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of 
syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with 
the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest 
involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me. 

In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use my upgrade, 
get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth wasting my upgrade 
or extra money.

TIA.
Christine

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App to schedule and record a radio show

2016-08-26 Thread Wayne Merritt
Greetings. I am looking for an app to schedule and record a radio show
on a weekly basis. There is a show that I like to listen to overnight
but it is broadcast from midnight to 4am my time Friday mornings. Is
there an app I can schedule a weekly recording of this show? I have
TuneIn Radio and ooTunes but I don't know if either would do this or
how to set it up. I've tried to look for podcasts of the show but
can't find them. I'm probably not using the right keywords. Any ideas?

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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Mary Otten
 Well, since you said you like the small screen, that would be a definite point 
in favor of the SE. As you probably know, the se  does not have thethe 3D Touch 
feature, and that is going to have more use in the new OS. But if you don't 
care, go for the SE. Why not? Also, if you care about the headphone jack, 
chances are very good that the new phone is not going to have one. If you are 
OK with 64 GB of storage, that would be another point in favor. The newer 
models are said to have more storage capacity.

Mary


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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Christine Grassman  
> wrote:
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>Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an iPhone 
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or 
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the 
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying 
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait 
> and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of 
> interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there 
> are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the 
> ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me. 
> 
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t 
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
> 
> TIA.
> Christine
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Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Kimber Gardner
If it were me, I would use the old phone until you see the 7 and what
it has to offer. You could still get the SE at that point if you want
and maybe get a better price after the new phone comes out.

On 8/26/16, Christine Grassman  wrote:
>   Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
> iPhone
> 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car
> backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or
> using my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the
> hassle of syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying
> to figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or
> wait and see with the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main
> features of interest involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and
> unless there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as
> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me.
>
> In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
> 2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t
> worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
>
> TIA.
> Christine
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Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE

2016-08-26 Thread Christine Grassman
Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade toward an 
iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was brutally victimized by a car 
backing up today, and I am now faced with using my upgrade for an SE, or using 
my daughter’s old 5C until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of 
syncing two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to figure out 
whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller screen), or wait and see with 
the iPHone 7. From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest 
involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless there are any 
amazing features or improvements, I figure I may as well wait for the ten-year 
anniversary for Apple to wow me. 

In short: 1. Take my daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or
2. Use my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year because the 7 isn’t worth 
wasting my upgrade or extra money.

TIA.
Christine

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Re: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

So would I, but, alas, there isn't! - Yet anyway! ...


Carol P - UK



On 26/08/2016 10:11, Gordan Radić wrote:

Hi!

I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like
Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for 
iOS.

Thanks for your answers!



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Adding a favorite to TuneIn Radio Pro

2016-08-26 Thread Richard Turner


I think I found the steps to add a station after searching that should work.
I just searched for "acb radio mainstream" and under where it says stations, I 
double tapped on acb radio mainstream, the talk of the blind community.
The next screen has a "play enabled button" and a "favorite button." I double 
tapped on play, then favorite.
It went to the screen where it starts playing and you have the exit the now 
playing screen button in the upper left.
On this page, there is also a favorite button. I double tapped on it and then 
it turned into a "favorite on" button, I double tapped on that and it was then 
selected.
I stopped playback, exited that screen, and switched to my favorites screen, 
and ACB Radio Mainstream was the last favorite on that page.
Of course, it took far longer to describe these steps than it took doing it.
But it works.
HTH,
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Re: Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes preferences

2016-08-26 Thread Rajmund
Hi,
4) If the phone turns on, and you can activate, as well as use voice over, 
settings, general, about, will also have the IMEI. 
Good luck!



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Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 3:58 pm
Subject: RE: Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes 
preferences

>
>
> Hello Christine,  
> 
> I am so sorry about the destruction of your iPhone.
> 
> You can get the I m e I number of your phone from several sources.
> 
> 1.
> Your wireless provider will have the number as this is how your device is 
> identified on their network.
> 
> 2.
> Attach the device to iTunes on a computer.  When attached, all of its 
> identification numbers can be displayed and copied to either a file or the 
> computer's clipboard, assuming, of course, that the device will still power 
> on and can be seen by the computer.
> 
> 3.
> Both your purchase receipt and the actual box in which you received the 
> device will have all of the device's identification numbers listed on them.
> 
> Good Luck,
> 
> mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes 
> preferences
> 
> Hello all: My iPhone was run over and the glass is smashed; it is done for. I 
> need to give Apple the ImEI  number, but I am told that one has to hover the 
> mouse over the devices in the iTunes back-up list to do this, and I have no 
> clue how to do this. All I am getting is my iPhone's name and the date 
> associated with the back-up. Please help asap. Thanks much. 
> 
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RE: National Day Calendar

2016-08-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Gordon,  

As I have personally installed this app on no fewer than 7 iPhones, I suspect 
that you may have a corrupted download.

Please do the following:

1.
Delete the app from your device.

2.
Close all running apps.

3.
Power off the device.

4.
After powering the device back on, reinstall the app.

Good  Luck,

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: National Day Calendar

Hi!
Following Marks advice I installed this app.
Unfortunately, whenever I double tap on it it displays the splash screen and 
crashes to Home screen. I tried rebooting with Sleep + Home and I disabled some 
apps from the App Switcher, still no luck with NDC.
I'm running iOS 9.3.4 on the 6S Plus 16 gb.


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RE: E-Mail Client

2016-08-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Can you explain where you want such an email client? Mail, the stock email app 
for iOS, comes as part of iOS on all iOS devices from the iPod Touch to the 
iPad.


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Subject: E-Mail Client


Hi!

I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.

Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I really like 
Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have something like Aquamail for 
iOS.

Thanks for your answers!



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RE: Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes preferences

2016-08-26 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Christine,  

I am so sorry about the destruction of your iPhone.

You can get the I m e I number of your phone from several sources.

1.
Your wireless provider will have the number as this is how your device is 
identified on their network.

2.
Attach the device to iTunes on a computer.  When attached, all of its 
identification numbers can be displayed and copied to either a file or the 
computer's clipboard, assuming, of course, that the device will still power on 
and can be seen by the computer.

3.
Both your purchase receipt and the actual box in which you received the device 
will have all of the device's identification numbers listed on them.

Good Luck,

mark 

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Subject: Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes 
preferences

Hello all: My iPhone was run over and the glass is smashed; it is done for. I 
need to give Apple the ImEI  number, but I am told that one has to hover the 
mouse over the devices in the iTunes back-up list to do this, and I have no 
clue how to do this. All I am getting is my iPhone’s name and the date 
associated with the back-up. Please help asap. Thanks much. 

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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread Dacia Cole
Yes, I hope the moderators stop it soon!!

On 8/26/16, pegkan...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> I agree with you wholeheartedly, I do not understand why this topic
> continues I think it has been blown out of the water and the moderators need
> to stop it soon it's getting a little bit ridiculous everyone is allowed to
> have their own opinions.
>
> Peggy Sent from my IPhone.
>
>
>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
>>
>> The only other thing I have to say is that I know first hand that the
>> NFB is very pro guide dog.  Numerous members have them and there is a
>> very active national division for guide dog users and a number of
>> states have divisions as well.  Does the NFB endorce one school over
>> another, no, but they are NOT ANTI GUIDEDOG!   If you
>> think they are, do your research.  Ask questions, visit the NAGDU
>> website and such.  You can't make an informed opinion without
>> reasearching first.  I myself don't have a guidedog, the long white
>> can is cheaper for me, lol.  However, I know several members of the
>> Federation who do.  Does the NFB always get it right?  No, but neither
>> does any organization.  So stop being petty and dragging everything
>> through the mud and act like the adults I know we all are.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Dacia
>>
>>> On 8/26/16, rajmund  wrote:
>>> Hello. I have to agree about the email bug. I mean, they've had a year
>>> to fix it, now.
 On 26/08/16 03:16, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences.
 I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would
 hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone.
 Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but
 IMHO, that's only true if you don't use your iPhone to make phone
 calls. I still have that bug where VoiceOver freezes up when I reply
 to an email message. Sure, I can squash the home button six times to
 work around this, but when I was on vacation last week, and the only
 way I could check on my email back at the office was with my iPhone, I
 sure regretted not just biting the bullet and schlepping my laptop
 around with me on vacation just so I could reply to my work emails.
 Fortunately, I don't have the voice dictation issue some are talking
 about, but I can empathize with anyone who isn't able to use such a
 key feature of their high end smart phone.

 I agree nothing is perfect, but inconveniences using your smart phone
 is one thing and bugs that keep you from using key features is a horse
 of another color. I also don't think any company should get a pass
 just because they have a lot of products or a lot to do. Apple chose
 to be in the markets their in and put out the products they do. They
 also sell high end devices. Apple is also a very wealthy company. If
 they need to put more resources into improving quality then they could
 thin out their product line a bit. I'm not saying they have to do
 that, but I'm also not feeling sorry for Apple because they have so
 many products making them so much money.

> On 25/08/16 09:08, Devin Prater wrote:
> I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet,
> but
> that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have
> nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more
> control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty
> people
> where that doesn't matter, but I'm just slightly more techie than
> Apfle's regular customer. That being said, I don't find Apple's little
> bugs to be that bad. Sure, you may need headphones when dictating, and
> no, that's not fair at all, but they're a huge company with too much
> on
> their plate as it is, with 4 operating systems, several products. I
> don't expect any system to be perfect.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
> >
> wrote:
>
>> I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for
>> not
>> testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
>> voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other technology
>> company to even work to make their product. Fully accessible. I
>> wonder
>> if there is a little pettiness with the national Federation of the
>> blind when it comes to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the
>> credibility of that organization when it comes to software and these
>> topics.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole > > wrote:
>>
>>> Here is a link to all 

Re: looking for a repeater book

2016-08-26 Thread Pete Nalda
Go into settings, then down to location, and then max distance. There's also a 
setting above that to change the grid square. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Aug 26, 2016, at 8:51 AM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
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> 
> on repeater book, I've seen it I've got it but how do I see listings outside 
> of my grid square
> 
> -Original Message- From: kg7...@juno.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 22:26
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: looking for a repeater book
> 
> Hi Ray, there is an excellent app called Repeater Book, wich is free and
> totally accessible!
> 
> 73:
> John
> 
> 
> 
> Affordable Wireless Plans
> Set up is easy. Get online in minutes.
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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread pegkane52

I agree with you wholeheartedly, I do not understand why this topic continues I 
think it has been blown out of the water and the moderators need to stop it 
soon it's getting a little bit ridiculous everyone is allowed to have their own 
opinions.

Peggy Sent from my IPhone.


> On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
> 
> The only other thing I have to say is that I know first hand that the
> NFB is very pro guide dog.  Numerous members have them and there is a
> very active national division for guide dog users and a number of
> states have divisions as well.  Does the NFB endorce one school over
> another, no, but they are NOT ANTI GUIDEDOG!   If you
> think they are, do your research.  Ask questions, visit the NAGDU
> website and such.  You can't make an informed opinion without
> reasearching first.  I myself don't have a guidedog, the long white
> can is cheaper for me, lol.  However, I know several members of the
> Federation who do.  Does the NFB always get it right?  No, but neither
> does any organization.  So stop being petty and dragging everything
> through the mud and act like the adults I know we all are.
> 
> thanks,
> Dacia
> 
>> On 8/26/16, rajmund  wrote:
>> Hello. I have to agree about the email bug. I mean, they've had a year
>> to fix it, now.
>>> On 26/08/16 03:16, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences.
>>> I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would
>>> hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone.
>>> Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but
>>> IMHO, that's only true if you don't use your iPhone to make phone
>>> calls. I still have that bug where VoiceOver freezes up when I reply
>>> to an email message. Sure, I can squash the home button six times to
>>> work around this, but when I was on vacation last week, and the only
>>> way I could check on my email back at the office was with my iPhone, I
>>> sure regretted not just biting the bullet and schlepping my laptop
>>> around with me on vacation just so I could reply to my work emails.
>>> Fortunately, I don't have the voice dictation issue some are talking
>>> about, but I can empathize with anyone who isn't able to use such a
>>> key feature of their high end smart phone.
>>> 
>>> I agree nothing is perfect, but inconveniences using your smart phone
>>> is one thing and bugs that keep you from using key features is a horse
>>> of another color. I also don't think any company should get a pass
>>> just because they have a lot of products or a lot to do. Apple chose
>>> to be in the markets their in and put out the products they do. They
>>> also sell high end devices. Apple is also a very wealthy company. If
>>> they need to put more resources into improving quality then they could
>>> thin out their product line a bit. I'm not saying they have to do
>>> that, but I'm also not feeling sorry for Apple because they have so
>>> many products making them so much money.
>>> 
 On 25/08/16 09:08, Devin Prater wrote:
 I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet, but
 that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have
 nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more
 control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty people
 where that doesn't matter, but I'm just slightly more techie than
 Apfle's regular customer. That being said, I don't find Apple's little
 bugs to be that bad. Sure, you may need headphones when dictating, and
 no, that's not fair at all, but they're a huge company with too much on
 their plate as it is, with 4 operating systems, several products. I
 don't expect any system to be perfect.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
 >
 wrote:
 
> I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not
> testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
> voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other technology
> company to even work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder
> if there is a little pettiness with the national Federation of the
> blind when it comes to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the
> credibility of that organization when it comes to software and these
> topics.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole  > wrote:
> 
>> Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
>> convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
>> about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
>> what apple is 

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread Dacia Cole
The only other thing I have to say is that I know first hand that the
NFB is very pro guide dog.  Numerous members have them and there is a
very active national division for guide dog users and a number of
states have divisions as well.  Does the NFB endorce one school over
another, no, but they are NOT ANTI GUIDEDOG!   If you
think they are, do your research.  Ask questions, visit the NAGDU
website and such.  You can't make an informed opinion without
reasearching first.  I myself don't have a guidedog, the long white
can is cheaper for me, lol.  However, I know several members of the
Federation who do.  Does the NFB always get it right?  No, but neither
does any organization.  So stop being petty and dragging everything
through the mud and act like the adults I know we all are.

thanks,
 Dacia

On 8/26/16, rajmund  wrote:
> Hello. I have to agree about the email bug. I mean, they've had a year
> to fix it, now.
> On 26/08/16 03:16, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences.
>> I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would
>> hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone.
>> Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but
>> IMHO, that's only true if you don't use your iPhone to make phone
>> calls. I still have that bug where VoiceOver freezes up when I reply
>> to an email message. Sure, I can squash the home button six times to
>> work around this, but when I was on vacation last week, and the only
>> way I could check on my email back at the office was with my iPhone, I
>> sure regretted not just biting the bullet and schlepping my laptop
>> around with me on vacation just so I could reply to my work emails.
>> Fortunately, I don't have the voice dictation issue some are talking
>> about, but I can empathize with anyone who isn't able to use such a
>> key feature of their high end smart phone.
>>
>> I agree nothing is perfect, but inconveniences using your smart phone
>> is one thing and bugs that keep you from using key features is a horse
>> of another color. I also don't think any company should get a pass
>> just because they have a lot of products or a lot to do. Apple chose
>> to be in the markets their in and put out the products they do. They
>> also sell high end devices. Apple is also a very wealthy company. If
>> they need to put more resources into improving quality then they could
>> thin out their product line a bit. I'm not saying they have to do
>> that, but I'm also not feeling sorry for Apple because they have so
>> many products making them so much money.
>>
>> On 25/08/16 09:08, Devin Prater wrote:
>>> I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet, but
>>> that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have
>>> nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more
>>> control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty people
>>> where that doesn't matter, but I'm just slightly more techie than
>>> Apfle's regular customer. That being said, I don't find Apple's little
>>> bugs to be that bad. Sure, you may need headphones when dictating, and
>>> no, that's not fair at all, but they're a huge company with too much on
>>> their plate as it is, with 4 operating systems, several products. I
>>> don't expect any system to be perfect.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not
 testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
 voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other technology
 company to even work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder
 if there is a little pettiness with the national Federation of the
 blind when it comes to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the
 credibility of that organization when it comes to software and these
 topics.

 Sent from my iPhone

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> Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
> convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
> about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
> what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.
>
> https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions
>
> thanks,
>
> Dacia
>
> On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain  > wrote:
>> More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than
>> I have
>> that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and
>> this is
>> more the view of the individual making 

Re: looking for a repeater book

2016-08-26 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
on repeater book, I've seen it I've got it but how do I see listings outside 
of my grid square


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Hi Ray, there is an excellent app called Repeater Book, wich is free and
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Re: National Day Calendar

2016-08-26 Thread Dave
Unfortunately, you have missed National Banana split Day.

Dave.

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Hi!

Following Marks advice I installed this app.

Unfortunately, whenever I double tap on it it displays the splash screen and 
crashes to Home screen. I tried rebooting with Sleep + Home and I disabled some 
apps from the App Switcher, still no luck with NDC.

I'm running iOS 9.3.4 on the 6S Plus 16 gb.





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Urgent assistance needed: finding iPhone IMEI number in iTunes preferences

2016-08-26 Thread Christine Grassman
Hello all: My iPhone was run over and the glass is smashed; it is done for. I 
need to give Apple the ImEI  number, but I am told that one has to hover the 
mouse over the devices in the iTunes back-up list to do this, and I have no 
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Re: National Day Calendar

2016-08-26 Thread MamaPeach
I had no problems with it, I am running it on a 6th gen iPod with IOS 9.35

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Hi!

Following Marks advice I installed this app.

Unfortunately, whenever I double tap on it it displays the splash screen and 
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apps from the App Switcher, still no luck with NDC.

I'm running iOS 9.3.4 on the 6S Plus 16 gb.





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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread rajmund
Hello. I have to agree about the email bug. I mean, they've had a year 
to fix it, now.

On 26/08/16 03:16, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Well, I think we're talking about more than just a few inconveniences. 
I was one of those who was hit with that bug where VoiceOver would 
hang almost every time I got a call and I had to hard reset my phone. 
Sure people who weren't hit by this bug can say it's no big deal, but 
IMHO, that's only true if you don't use your iPhone to make phone 
calls. I still have that bug where VoiceOver freezes up when I reply 
to an email message. Sure, I can squash the home button six times to 
work around this, but when I was on vacation last week, and the only 
way I could check on my email back at the office was with my iPhone, I 
sure regretted not just biting the bullet and schlepping my laptop 
around with me on vacation just so I could reply to my work emails. 
Fortunately, I don't have the voice dictation issue some are talking 
about, but I can empathize with anyone who isn't able to use such a 
key feature of their high end smart phone.


I agree nothing is perfect, but inconveniences using your smart phone 
is one thing and bugs that keep you from using key features is a horse 
of another color. I also don't think any company should get a pass 
just because they have a lot of products or a lot to do. Apple chose 
to be in the markets their in and put out the products they do. They 
also sell high end devices. Apple is also a very wealthy company. If 
they need to put more resources into improving quality then they could 
thin out their product line a bit. I'm not saying they have to do 
that, but I'm also not feeling sorry for Apple because they have so 
many products making them so much money.


On 25/08/16 09:08, Devin Prater wrote:

I now use Linux on my Apple computer. I also have an Android tablet, but
that's more for seeing if I want my nexp phone to be Android. I have
nothing against the people at Apple, I just would rather have more
control and freedom on my devices, and know that there are plenty people
where that doesn't matter, but I'm just slightly more techie than
Apfle's regular customer. That being said, I don't find Apple's little
bugs to be that bad. Sure, you may need headphones when dictating, and
no, that's not fair at all, but they're a huge company with too much on
their plate as it is, with 4 operating systems, several products. I
don't expect any system to be perfect.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Roger Frischenmeyer
> 
wrote:



I find it interesting that the resolution is critical of Apple for not
testing their releases for excess ability and issues around the
voiceover software, yet no resolution called on any other technology
company to even work to make their product. Fully accessible. I wonder
if there is a little pettiness with the national Federation of the
blind when it comes to Apple and truthfully, it makes me question the
credibility of that organization when it comes to software and these
topics.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:13 AM, Dacia Cole > wrote:


Here is a link to all the resolutions that we voted on for the 2016
convention.  As someone who was there, there was lots of discussion
about the apple resolution and the general consensus was that we love
what apple is doing, but that there is always room for improvement.

https://nfb.org/2016-resolutions

thanks,

Dacia

On 8/25/16, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:
More criticism of the NFB that they're enfatuated with Apple than 
I have
that they're Apple bashers. I tend to think neither is true and 
this is

more the view of the individual making this claim than it is of the
entire NFB organization. I'd suggest looking at the whole issue, 
all of

the statements and resolutions passed by the NFB and not basing and
publiching an opinion like this just based on something someone 
heard.
For example, I'd rather see a link to this resolution that was 
passed so

I can make up my own mind.

On 25/08/16 07:03, Bill Gallik wrote:

I recently learned of a questionable “resolution” passed at the NFB
convention singling out Apple for a lack of appropriate
prioritization to
accessibility while giving other tech companies a complete pass 
despite

far more egregious non-concert on the part of those other companies.

Now, there’s this alarmist tidbits surfacing about an unpleasant
surprise
in iOS 9.3.4.

I personally know of a “tech Instructor” at the local Lighthouse
who is an
avowed Apple basher.

I find this obvious irrational animosity for Apple to be without
any merit
whatsoever.  It certainly causes me to have very little regard for
NFB and
that organization’s leadership.

This reminds me of the childhood game “King of the Mountain” 
where the
object of the game is to occupy the highest point on 

National Day Calendar

2016-08-26 Thread Gordan Radić

  
  
Hi!
Following Marks advice I installed this app.
Unfortunately, whenever I double tap on it it displays the splash
  screen and crashes to Home screen. I tried rebooting with Sleep +
  Home and I disabled some apps from the App Switcher, still no luck
  with NDC.
I'm running iOS 9.3.4 on the 6S Plus 16 gb.



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2016-08-26 Thread Gordan Radić

  
  
Hi!
I was looking for Aquamail for iOS but there's no such thing.
Does anyone know about some similar and VO accessible client? I
  really like Aquamail features and options and I'd like to have
  something like Aquamail for iOS.
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Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread 'simon w' via VIPhone

for those that want to discuss this continue this off list please.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

and yet, the NFB passed a resolution specifically targeting Apple when apple 
was clearly the best in the field accessibility wise. I have far less issues 
with their OS (on the laptop or the iPhone) than I do with the windows 
machine (using jaws or NVDA or even narrator) At least when an app turns out 
to be inaccessible on an apple, it isn't apples fault (hell, they published 
the API for it), it's usually the vendor of the software who decided not to 
abide by a published API.


By comparison, Microsoft and their MSAA is a joke. They don't even pay 
attention to it half the time (witness windows 8 and 10 respectively). Now, 
it is true that the NFB has nagged them over the years to resolve this, but 
what it really took before MS would take this seriously was a lawsuit.


And as for google, their attitude toward us of late has been far less than 
stellar. Ever since they moved the company head ops to India, its been a 
nightmare. SOme of Googles tools are now so inaccessible that they cannot be 
used by a blind person on ANY platform (including their own). THere has also 
been a trend toward going back to some of the older schemes for keeping out 
bots, etc. These schemes, by their very nature, are completely inaccessible 
(like visual only capchas, etc.).


compared to those, apple has been the best performer accessibility wise. It 
is unfortunate that they rolled the accessibility testing division 
(voiceover) into the mainstream development cycle the way they did. It 
actually created a situation where accessibility now takes a back seat to 
overall OS development. An example of this is the nasty bug in the dictation 
routine that they have, so far, addressed.


Given all the above, the NFB proposal as passed smacks of a money grab. 
Sorry to be a wet blanket on those true believers, but thats my assessment.


anyway, I think this thread is now to the point of beating a dead horse, 
don't you think?


-eric

On Aug 25, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Wayne Merritt wrote:


After reading a few messages on this thread, I submit the following:
To those that say that the NFB hasn't spoken against other major tech
companies, like Microsoft, Google and Amazon: if you look back at the
NFB resolutions since 2009, you will find around 20 passed that were
directed either in praise or disappointment with accessibility
products from Microsoft, Google and Amazon. Anyone recall all of the
almost yearly resolutions and protests that the nFB made against
Amazon over the Kindle line? Yes, that Kindle that many of you have on
your desk and your enjoyment of its services, you can thank the NFB
for access to that Kindle. The NFB has spoken up over other access
issues, like the many Google apps, Microsoft services, and access
issues from other companies like the Nook from Barnes & Noble. And how
many resolutions were passed against Apple? Counting this year's: 4.
Think what you will, but this has nothing to do with money. If it were
about money, then the NFB would not have brought resolutions/lawsuits
against Target, Google, or Microsoft, among others.

Regards,
Wayne

On 8/25/16, Regina Alvarado  wrote:


Well said Jonathan! I was not going to get into this fight. I have had 
some

issues also. However, I really understood what Jonathan was saying. I am
deeply grateful to Apple for putting a screen reader directly in its
operating system, but they truly can do better just as we all can. NFB 
only

pointed this out, and I, for one, hope next year is Android's turn along
with other things like nonaccessible web sites and other technology that 
has

not caught up. I have my own thoughts and issues with NFB, but they are
holding Apple's feet to the fire and hopefully will do the same for other
technology companies. Unfortunately, they have a past history of planting
their feet on one entity and stomping them. I know. I was there when they
went completely off the grid on a guide dog school which had problems 
which

its students were taking care of. This is another example, but a needed
statement too. Perhaps another technology user next year will take on the
writing of a resolution against Google or Microsoft or any number of tech
companies, and I sincerely hope NFB will pass it with as much gusto as 
this
one. I hope they are not protecting companies that give them money. 
However,
if this had anything to do with Apple making improvement, as a lot of 
beta

testers say, then I am happy.

reggie & Lex

On Aug 25, 2016, at 12:29 PM, Mário Navarro  wrote:





Mary, my answer to you is:
read the post from Jonathan Mosen.

http://mosen.org/that-nfb-resolution/

Às 17:15 de 25/08/2016, Mary Otten escreveu:

 Mario,
Since you don't know me 

Re: nfb RESOLUTION [WAS "Re: Let's Play "King of the Mountain""]

2016-08-26 Thread christopher hallsworth
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