iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Kimberly]

Hi all,

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange app 
freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the screen 
becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to remove the 
app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native 
mail app and the Bard app.

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's not 
constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Denise Colley]

I have been having some of the same problems with my iphone 7 and ios 12.  My 
screen does not respond and I lose voiceover.

 

Denise

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

Hi all,

 

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange app 
freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the screen 
becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to remove the 
app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native 
mail app and the Bard app.

 

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's not 
constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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Battery status bluetooth headphones

[gianni morelli]

Hi,
I bought a new iphone.
In the status bar I can’t see the battery status from my bluetooth headphones. 
Does anyone know where I can view it?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Skype: giannijuve

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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Dave]

But my answer still stands.

The phone is ours, and it should be up to us, which features we choose to 
use.


I'm old enough to make my own decisions, when it comes to my own belongings.

I don't need apple to keep nagging me, like i am some kind of school child.

If anything goes wrong, then it is my own fault and not apples.

After they have warned us, and we say no, then that should be enough.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
Them, (Smile)


Hi   Marry,

You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
for the on/off button.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
Them, (Smile)


I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
with Apple.


Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:


After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
me
how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I 
always

reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
opener
which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
home.



Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, 
I

feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone 
because
Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
his
bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet 
off,

the phone would not recognize him in the dark.

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
someone who would care either one way or the other.

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident 
in

Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control 
for

the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them, 
(Big

Smile).

Mark


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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Eric Oyen]

It’s a 7. I keep putting the S in there (old habit from the 5S I have sitting 
on the desk next to the 7.

The “TracPhone” is a Brand of subsidized smartphone (originally called an 
“ObamaPhone”) is a cheap, medium powered set of Android devices. The room mates 
have a couple (one even uses his as a TV remote!).

-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What is a Tracphone?
> Also, I assume you meant to say that you have an iPhone 6S since there is no 
> 7S.
> I have a 6S Plus and plan to keep it for at least this coming year, it would 
> be the fourth year, maybe I'll even keep it for a fifth year, all depends on 
> what Apple comes up with next fall and what else I want to spend money on. Of 
> course if I win in the lotterie I'll buy an iPhone XS the next day just 
> because, but it's rather unlikely although somebody did just win a million 
> bucks in my little town of just over 5,000 people.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
> Oyen
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:46 PM
> To: Visually impaired phone users 
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> Yep. Dependence on technology that only works some of the time can be a real 
> headache. Oh, and Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind person the right 
> way (it’s that stupid attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still 
> the old fallback.
> 
> Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the funds to upgrade any further 
> and if the phone ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a tracphone at the 
> local Walmart for about $50. Then I can port over my number and call it good.
> 
> Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a very secure (mostly) App Store 
> and all of that, but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.
> 
> -Eric
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
>> new Touch Id.
>> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
>> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
>> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
>> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was 
>> I sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock 
>> my door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
>> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
>> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on 
>> the 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well 
>> if it does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if 
>> your little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough
>> of Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
>> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how
>> that went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for
>> a couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
>> they are forcing face ID on us.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>> 
>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always
>>> telling me how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him;
>>> to which I always reply, "Good for you."
>>> 
>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door
>>> opener which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches 
>>> his home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so
>>> late, I feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he
>>> called complaining that he could not get into his garage using his
>>> iPhone because Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his
>>> motorcycle helmet as his bike approached.  He said, to his dismay,
>>> even when he took his helmet off, the phone would not recognize him in the 
>>> dark.
>>> 
>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have
>>> not spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to
>>> vent to someone who would care either one way or the other.
>>> 
>>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so
>>> confident in Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase
>>> a remote control for the garage door system.
>>> 
>>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>>> (smile)
>>> 
>>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote
>>> control for the

Re: going back to previous versions

[Arlene]

Thank you, for answering my question, Mario, and helping me understand more 
about this. I'm glad that everything is getting straightened out for you.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Mário Navarro" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: going back to previous versions




hi Arline.


You can only go back a version of IOS.
And in this case, only iOS 12 for iOS 11.
Thanks for the heads-up...
Cheers.


Às 13:22 de 21/09/2018, Arlene escreveu:
Mario, I'm still pretty knew to the iphone about 8 months so I may not 
know how to ask about what could be one in the right way and possibly 
missing some considerations of factors that maybe I don't have a full 
understanding of yet. As I was asking in the other message, and I don't 
know if apple allows for this, to be able to go back to versions, in this 
case iOS 10.3.3. While it would be a lot to go through, feeling as if 
you're going 10 steps backwards, it might eventually make things better, 
if there was a way for you to go back to iOS 10.3.3.  Then from there if 
you wanted to update, to go from one update at a time to the next update, 
until you get to  the update you want,  maybe it might work out better, if 
it was possible to do, it might be worth it to have things go better. 
With the knowledge  you have you probably know if this could be done. 
While you could do this on the computer with going to another version of 
windows or any other software, I never thought to ask about being able to 
do that with the smart phones,  So I'll be learning from you, Richard and 
others that explain if this is possible. I hope for you, that it's 
something you can do to help you in getting your phone back on track 
working well once again, since that has to be absolutely frustrating and 
misserable, that something you depend on so much, isn't working   well 
now, which is so important for it to be in tiptopshape.


Arlene

- Original Message - From: "Mário Navarro" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...





My good friend.
All this is uncheck.

I always do this every time I use a new iPhone.
 or even a complete restore
I know all the tips to save battery on an iPhone.

I did my update through itunes.
It was very fast without any kind of issue.
It took 30 minutes to download the file and install it.
My net is very strong...
That's why I'm sure the issues I run into the phone are not because of
the installation...
I had made a complete  reset a month ago. Very recent...

And that's why I'm not going to make another one. If I did, it would
have to be with backup...
And if I do a backup of IOS 12, everything will be the same...
My IPhone, it was perfect with iOS 10.3.3 and I just did an update on
top. This iOS 12 update has no issue because of iOS 10.
It's all from iOS 12...
And I don't want to have more work with a complete  reset.
Because I know that will not solve the issues of accessibility and those
of the battery...
But if I'm forced to do it, I will.

Or I'll just walk away from Apple once and for all.
And I think this is really the best decision I'm going to make.

I'm sick of Apple's politics, and all the negative things they've been
giving us over the years.
Thank you for the kind words you've been having with me.

thank you.
cheers.

Às 15:12 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Mario,

Please humour me and try the reset network settings, don't dismiss it 
outright and do make sure you go through settings especially look at 
background app refresh and location settings and turn off stuff you don't 
think you need. Sometimes during an update stuff you may have turned off 
a long time ago and almost forgotten about does get turned on again. Make 
sure you look at the "system" section in location settings, most things 
there can be turned off.
I am sure there are some bugs, but I have also used iOS for 9 years and I 
have participated in many beta cycles. I am on a beta tester list and 
here quite a good number of experienced people have used iOS 12 for 
almost 3 months now. These are often the same people who in the past have 
put out the warnings about serious bugs when a new iOS version was first 
released and all I can say is that iOS 12 is very stabil, it runs 
efficiently and makes older devices snappier and there are very few bugs 
at this time when compared to iOS 11, iOS 10 and earlier. I can't 
remember if it was iOS 10 or iOS 9 where at release there was that 
horrible bug where Voiceover would sort of go away when a phone call was 
received (don't recall the details), but it was bad and iOS 11 was bad 
even for sighted people.
Just go through the reset network settings and if that doesn't help by 
all means, do a complete reset. I know it's frustrating, but every so 
often actually doing a complete reset and setting up as a new device can 
have very good results even though it takes quite a few hours to get 
everything back to where you had it before

Re: going back to previous versions

[Arlene]

Richard, thank you for answering this question. You never know until you ask 
and I didn't know if it was something that Mario could do, if it would have 
helped in straightening his situation out. I'm so happy for him that 
everything is getting better for him, so thanks to you and Mario for 
answering this question for me.


Arlene

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: going back to previous versions


Arlene,
Good question, but the answer is a definite maybe.

For a short time, often a very short time, after Apple releases a new 
version of iOS you can go back to the previous version, in this case it 
would be from 12 to 11.4.1.  This is something I have never done, but I 
gather it involves a lot and you risk losing anything you have not backed 
up.

Once Apple has stopped signing the previous version, you cannot go back.
You certainly have never been able to go back more than one version.

I'm sure if I got something wrong, someone will chime in with a better 
explanation.


HTH,
Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 5:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: going back to previous versions

Mario, I'm still pretty knew to the iphone about 8 months so I may not know 
how to ask about what could be one in the right way and possibly missing 
some considerations of factors that maybe I don't have a full understanding 
of yet. As I was asking in the other message, and I don't know if apple 
allows for this, to be able to go back to versions, in this case iOS 10.3.3.
While it would be a lot to go through, feeling as if you're going 10 steps 
backwards, it might eventually make things better, if there was a way for 
you to go back to iOS 10.3.3.  Then from there if you wanted to update, to 
go from one update at a time to the next update, until you get to  the 
update you want,  maybe it might work out better, if it was possible to do, 
it might be worth it to have things go better.  With the knowledge  you have

you probably know if this could be done.   While you could do this on the
computer with going to another version of windows or any other software, I 
never thought to ask about being able to do that with the smart phones,  So 
I'll be learning from you, Richard and others that explain if this is 
possible. I hope for you, that it's something you can do to help you in 
getting your phone back on track working well once again, since that has to 
be absolutely frustrating and misserable, that something you depend on so

much, isn't working   well now, which is so important for it to be in
tiptopshape.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Mário Navarro" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...





My good friend.
All this is uncheck.

I always do this every time I use a new iPhone.
 or even a complete restore
I know all the tips to save battery on an iPhone.

I did my update through itunes.
It was very fast without any kind of issue.
It took 30 minutes to download the file and install it.
My net is very strong...
That's why I'm sure the issues I run into the phone are not because of
the installation...
I had made a complete  reset a month ago. Very recent...

And that's why I'm not going to make another one. If I did, it would
have to be with backup...
And if I do a backup of IOS 12, everything will be the same...
My IPhone, it was perfect with iOS 10.3.3 and I just did an update on
top. This iOS 12 update has no issue because of iOS 10.
It's all from iOS 12...
And I don't want to have more work with a complete  reset.
Because I know that will not solve the issues of accessibility and those
of the battery...
But if I'm forced to do it, I will.

Or I'll just walk away from Apple once and for all.
And I think this is really the best decision I'm going to make.

I'm sick of Apple's politics, and all the negative things they've been
giving us over the years.
Thank you for the kind words you've been having with me.

thank you.
cheers.

Às 15:12 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:

Mario,

Please humour me and try the reset network settings, don't dismiss it
outright and do make sure you go through settings especially look at
background app refresh and location settings and turn off stuff you don't
think you need. Sometimes during an update stuff you may have turned off a
long time ago and almost forgotten about does get turned on again. Make
sure you look at the "system" section in location settings, most things
there can be turned off.
I am sure there are some bugs, but I have also used iOS for 9 years and I
have participated in many beta cycles. I am on a beta tester list and here
quite a good number of experienced people have used iOS 12 for almost 3
months now. The

Re: Two factor authentication message

[Øyvind Lode]

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at some 
> point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never popped up 
> again.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Kalaluhi
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message
>
> Hi
> Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For some 
> odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id and two 
> factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip whatever, it 
> takes me into settings and I have the choice to install now, learn more, or 
> not now.  This message pops up randomly and can appear as much as three to 
> four times a day.
>
> I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb 
> While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not 
> disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still receive 
> texts and other notifications while in the car but also this message.  I 
> cannot find in control center or notifications where to get rid of these 
> suggestions or tips or whatever they are called.  If anyone can help, I 
> surely would appreciate it.
> Kathy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Two factor authentication message
>
> Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it asks 
> for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?
>
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Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... possibility thoughts of a solution for mario, richard

[Arlene]

It's okay, Mario, we all need someone to be understanding when we're going 
through something so frustrating and you really
were going through a frustrating time, with things going not as well as 
expected when you updated, and it certainly leads you to feel for a while 
that mixture of disappointment and upsetness. That goes to show you  how 
much the members of this group are so hear for one another. Even through 
your upsetness a number of people, with their knowledge were  making 
suggestions and being understanding to you, and there were others like me 
that aren't that technical that were being understanding. It's times like 
that, that all of us go through one time or another, and through all the 
disappointment and frustration, one can't focuse on how to make things 
better, all you want is for things to be the same as they were, or to just 
get better already. Anyway, I'm so happy for you, that things are 
straightening out for you, and continue to let us know how your phone 
situation is going.


Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Mário Navarro" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2018 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... possibility thoughts of a solution 
for mario, richard





Hi.

Dear Arline, Thank you very much for the sweet understanding.
I'm going to do a total  reset  without backup, and then I come to tell
you all if my issues were resolved with this reset...
I didn't want to do it, but I'm forced to do...
I want to thank you all who have had friendly understanding to my post
of frustration and anger towards Apple.
thank you!
cheers.
Às 11:52 de 21/09/2018, Arlene escreveu:
Mario, you certainly deserve a lot of understanding, it's so awful when 
updates and things aren't the same on the phone, or even the computer for 
that matter. Richard, I don't know if any of this is possible for Mario, 
but is there anyway that he could go back to the version he had? I know 
it's 10. something, and then going up one version at a time to see if that 
helps? If that is even possibile, since like other software previous 
versions are available. Is it possible to keep these updates in the cloud 
or on one's computer, so if you needed to completely redo your phone, that 
you would be able to use the version you prefer? I know much of what I'm 
saying may not be possible, and also the consideration that everyone would 
want the most current version. Though considering whether you're updating 
software on the computer or even phone, or app for the phone, and the 
negative experience of in the case of the software no longer being 
completely accessible, it would be nice if you could go back to that older 
version. And of course better yet having a backup with the version that 
worked well, which would make it easier to go back to that version. So 
with the cloud, backing your phone up would you be able to go back to that 
last version that worked so well? and if it's possible, only if Mario was 
able to do that.


Arlene
- Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...


Mario,
I am really sorry to hear you are having such a bad experience with iOS 
12.
I don't think you should be criticized for venting your frustrations as 
some do.


I also have an SE, and it is working great and no different amount of 
battery drain.
I think the suggestions to try a reset of the network settings is worth a 
try.
Also, make sure that nothing is running in the background that might be 
adding battery drain.


I also updated a work iPhone 8 plus and an iPad Pro with no problems.
All these devices were already on 11.4.1, so I do not know if that is the 
difference.  It could be that going from 10.3.3 to 12 brought out some 
issues that would have been noticed in iOS 11.4.1.  I'm certainly not 
qualified to say.


I just know how absolutely frustrating it is when a device you have come 
to rely on suddenly becomes problematic.


I hope it gets resolved.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mário Navarro

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:42 AM
To: iphone group 
Subject: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...




Hi all.

iOS 12, I am completely sorry to have updated.
I had IOS  10.3.3 on my iPhone SE and it was almost perfect...

But of course after we waited many months to see some bugs  fixed


Everything worked very well.
Now with iOS 12 I didn't win anything special..
Contrary:
The battery sucks too much, there is a huge bug with the voice dictation. 
Voice over does not announce the feedback of dictation.

I have also come across other issues in various aspects.
on my iPhone SE, with IOS 10.3.3  the battery was perfect.

Now with IOS 12, it's been shit.
And worst of all, I can't no more  back to 10.3.3...
IOS 11 is also a piece of shit...

Apple is a piec

Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Donna]

Hi

I’m not having this problem with my iPhone 7. My problem is I can’t use the 4 
finger swipe to go to the different apps in the app switcher. This gesture 
worked flawlessly before updating to IOS 12.

Donna
> 
> I have been having some of the same problems with my iphone 7 and ios 12.  My 
> screen does not respond and I lose voiceover.
>  
> Denise
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange 
> app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the 
> screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
> remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
> the native mail app and the Bard app.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's 
> not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.
>  
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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Re: Battery status bluetooth headphones

[Maria Reyes]

Go to notification center and three finger swipe to the left. you should hear 
today. hit the edit button at the bottom of the screen. You should see a whole 
bunch of widgets you can add. One of them should be batteries. Hit the insert 
batteries button then go to the top of the screen and hit the done button. 
Flick through your widgets until you hear the batteries heading. you should see 
your iPhone battery status and the battery status of your headphones. 

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:53 AM, gianni morelli  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I bought a new iphone.
> In the status bar I can’t see the battery status from my bluetooth 
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Re: Battery status bluetooth headphones

[gianni morelli]

3 finger swipe left, how do I do this with voiceover cuz it doesn’t seem to 
work?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Skype: giannijuve

> Op 24 sep. 2018 om 13:14 heeft Maria Reyes  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Go to notification center and three finger swipe to the left. you should hear 
> today. hit the edit button at the bottom of the screen. You should see a 
> whole bunch of widgets you can add. One of them should be batteries. Hit the 
> insert batteries button then go to the top of the screen and hit the done 
> button. Flick through your widgets until you hear the batteries heading. you 
> should see your iPhone battery status and the battery status of your 
> headphones. 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:53 AM, gianni morelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I bought a new iphone.
>> In the status bar I can’t see the battery status from my bluetooth 
>> headphones. Does anyone know where I can view it?
>> 
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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Dave]

In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Øyvind Lode

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at 
some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never 
popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For 
some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id 
and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip 
whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice to install now, 
learn more, or not now.  This message pops up randomly and can appear as 
much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb 
While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not 
disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still 
receive texts and other notifications while in the car but also this 
message.  I cannot find in control center or notifications where to get 
rid of these suggestions or tips or whatever they are called.  If anyone 
can help, I surely would appreciate it.

Kathy

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From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
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Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it 
asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?


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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Christopher Chaltain]

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets 
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the 
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.



Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more 
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a 
dictatorship.




On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:


In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then 
at some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they 
never popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  
For some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for 
apple Id and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion 
and/or tip whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice 
to install now, learn more, or not now.  This message pops up 
randomly and can appear as much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not 
Disturb While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually 
for do not disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the 
car.  I still receive texts and other notifications while in the car 
but also this message.  I cannot find in control center or 
notifications where to get rid of these suggestions or tips or 
whatever they are called.  If anyone can help, I surely would 
appreciate it.

Kathy

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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
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Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where 
it asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?


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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Robin]

Which Apple iPhone as you,Eric obviously  stated 
incorrectly as there wasn't an iPhone7S, so I'm 
presuming you  meant either the iPhone6S or 
iPhone7+ or quite possibly the recently introduced iPhoneXS

At 09:46 PM 9/23/2018, you wrote:
Yep. Dependence on technology that only works 
some of the time can be a real headache. Oh, and 
Face ID can’t contend with a totally blind 
person the right way (it’s that stupid 
attention filter). Still, having a passcode is still the old fallback.


Btw, I run an iPhone 7S here. I don’t have the 
funds to upgrade any further and if the phone 
ceases to be of use, I will end up buying a 
tracphone at the local Walmart for about $50. 
Then I can port over my number and call it good.


Sure, the iPhone has a lot of neat features, a 
very secure (mostly) App Store and all of that, 
but it’s way too pricey to continue upgrading.


-Eric


> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> If you go back 5 years you can read the same 
sort of stories about the then new Touch Id.
> Fingerprint scanners of course have been 
around on various laptops, electronic doors and 
so on for a lot longer, but it's also 
interesting that until Apple came out with 
Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt 
for my front door and man was I sometimes 
cursing when I was standing there in the cold 
trying to unlock my door only to finally dig 
out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
doorlocks have all but disappeared.
> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the 
second generation  Touch Id on the 6S and up 
(5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch 
Id) works well if it does work, but as I said 
in my other message, it only works well if your 
little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.

>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Gordon

> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure 
Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

>
> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer
> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that
> went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a
> couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since
> they are forcing face ID on us.
>
>
> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan 
of Face ID is always telling me

>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>>
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max 
along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face 
ID, when he approaches his home.

>>
>>
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 
11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I

>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, 
in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, 
even when he took his helmet off,

>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>>
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>>
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact 
that he had been so confident in

>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>>
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>>
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he 
purchased a remote control for

>> the opener.
>>
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I 
can't get enough of them,  (Big

>> Smile).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
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Re: iPhone 6s or SE? and verizon service

[Arlene]

I don't know if anyone answered your question. If you get your iphone 
through the

apple store, I don't think you would have any trouble taking it to verizon.

Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Byrne" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 6s or SE?


Sorry. It was clear to me.  If I purchase an iPhone SE or 6 at not a phone 
store, will it be a problem to activate it for use on Verizon?  I have 
always purchased phones through a store, and know nothing about going 
through a not-carrier.  So my question, I thought, was related to the 
subject.



At 01:31 PM 9/17/2018, you wrote:
It would sure be helpful if the subject line match the subject of these 
messages. In other words, if you change the subject to iPhone SE, how 
about starting a new subject rather than hijacking this one?



Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> If I buy one at a store, how hard is it to activate it for Verizon???
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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Dave]

No it doesn't.

If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, then it 
shouldn't affect you at all.


If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification was a 
waist of time, as everyone would be affected.


If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, that 
is at risk of being burgled, and not you.


I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
decisions.


I left school quite some years ago.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.


Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
dictatorship.



On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:


In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at 
some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never 
popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For 
some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id 
and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip 
whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice to install now, 
learn more, or not now.  This message pops up randomly and can appear as 
much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb 
While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not 
disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still 
receive texts and other notifications while in the car but also this 
message.  I cannot find in control center or notifications where to get 
rid of these suggestions or tips or whatever they are called.  If anyone 
can help, I surely would appreciate it.

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it 
asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?


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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't get your statement that two factor authentication is a waste of 
time. I'm not sure how greater security is a waste of time. I also think 
your analogy is flawed. You're talking about a device on the network 
that's using shared services and resources. I suppose if your house was 
broken into and then was used as a base for criminal activity throughout 
the neighborhood then it would be a better analogy, and if the police 
reminding people to lock their doors to reduce crime in the 
neighborhood, I'd be OK with that.



Equating a reminder to use two factor authentication with living in a 
dictatorship is not only melodramatic, but it also trivializes the 
plight of all of those people who do live in a dictatorship.



On 09/24/2018 06:52 AM, Dave wrote:

No it doesn't.

If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, then 
it shouldn't affect you at all.


If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification 
was a waist of time, as everyone would be affected.


If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, 
that is at risk of being burgled, and not you.


I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
decisions.


I left school quite some years ago.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.


Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
dictatorship.



On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:


In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, 
then at some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and 
they never popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  
For some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for 
apple Id and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the 
suggestion and/or tip whatever, it takes me into settings and I have 
the choice to install now, learn more, or not now.  This message 
pops up randomly and can appear as much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not 
Disturb While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually 
for do not disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the 
car.  I still receive texts and other notifications while in the car 
but also this message.  I cannot find in control center or 
notifications where to get rid of these suggestions or tips or 
whatever they are called. If anyone can help, I surely would 
appreciate it.

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification 
where it asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the 
iphone?


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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Dave]

I said it would be a waist of time, if other people deciding not to use it, 
affected, those who choose to have it on.


If you can't work out what i am saying, then i really can't be bothered, as 
i have things to do, and can't keep arguing the toss with you.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I don't get your statement that two factor authentication is a waste of
time. I'm not sure how greater security is a waste of time. I also think
your analogy is flawed. You're talking about a device on the network
that's using shared services and resources. I suppose if your house was
broken into and then was used as a base for criminal activity throughout
the neighborhood then it would be a better analogy, and if the police
reminding people to lock their doors to reduce crime in the
neighborhood, I'd be OK with that.


Equating a reminder to use two factor authentication with living in a
dictatorship is not only melodramatic, but it also trivializes the
plight of all of those people who do live in a dictatorship.


On 09/24/2018 06:52 AM, Dave wrote:

No it doesn't.

If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, then it 
shouldn't affect you at all.


If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification was a 
waist of time, as everyone would be affected.


If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, that 
is at risk of being burgled, and not you.


I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
decisions.


I left school quite some years ago.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.


Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
dictatorship.



On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:


In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at 
some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never 
popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For 
some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id 
and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip 
whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice to install 
now, learn more, or not now.  This message pops up randomly and can 
appear as much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not 
Disturb While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for 
do not disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I 
still receive texts and other notifications while in the car but also 
this message.  I cannot find in control center or notifications where to 
get rid of these suggestions or tips or whatever they are called. If 
anyone can help, I surely would appreciate it.

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it 
asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?


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Re: Two factor authentication message

[l . d . ethier23]

And Apple cannot help you if you lose your password.

Lyne

> Le 24 sept. 2018 à 08:02, Christopher Chaltain  a écrit :
> 
> I don't get your statement that two factor authentication is a waste of time. 
> I'm not sure how greater security is a waste of time. I also think your 
> analogy is flawed. You're talking about a device on the network that's using 
> shared services and resources. I suppose if your house was broken into and 
> then was used as a base for criminal activity throughout the neighborhood 
> then it would be a better analogy, and if the police reminding people to lock 
> their doors to reduce crime in the neighborhood, I'd be OK with that.
> 
> 
> Equating a reminder to use two factor authentication with living in a 
> dictatorship is not only melodramatic, but it also trivializes the plight of 
> all of those people who do live in a dictatorship.
> 
> 
>> On 09/24/2018 06:52 AM, Dave wrote:
>> No it doesn't.
>> 
>> If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, then it 
>> shouldn't affect you at all.
>> 
>> If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification was a 
>> waist of time, as everyone would be affected.
>> 
>> If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, that 
>> is at risk of being burgled, and not you.
>> 
>> I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
>> decisions.
>> 
>> I left school quite some years ago.
>> 
>> Dave.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message
>> 
>> I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
>> up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
>> internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.
>> 
>> 
>> Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
>> secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
>> dictatorship.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> 
>>> In your opinion.
>>> 
>>> It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.
>>> 
>>> Not you or Apple.
>>> 
>>> It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.
>>> 
>>> I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!
>>> 
>>> Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message
>>> 
>>> Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
>>> I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
>>> account and it greatly improves security.
>>> So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
>>> factor authentication 
>>> It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
>>> your Apple ID and other accounts.
>>> 
 On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then at 
 some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they never 
 popped up again.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
 Kathy Kalaluhi
 Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message
 
 Hi
 Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For 
 some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id 
 and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip 
 whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice to install now, 
 learn more, or not now.  This message pops up randomly and can appear as 
 much as three to four times a day.
 
 I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not Disturb 
 While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for do not 
 disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I still 
 receive texts and other notifications while in the car but also this 
 message.  I cannot find in control center or notifications where to get 
 rid of these suggestions or tips or whatever they are called. If anyone 
 can help, I surely would appreciate it.
 Kathy
 
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 Subject: Two factor authentication message
 
 Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where it 
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RE: 5 reasons to wait...

[Robert Wright]

I noticedthat this author doesn’t mention anything about the speakers on these 
devices.  

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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: 5 reasons to wait...

The New IPhone Is in Stores. Here Are 5 Reasons to Wait Before Buying It -
Just think about it.
GEOFFREY A. FOWLER, THE WASHINGTON POST
22 SEP 2018
Hell
o there, savvy iPhone shopper. Ready for an upgrade? There are a few things you 
should know before emptying your wallet at the Apple 
store.
It's an especially confusing moment: Apple will sell no fewer than eight iPhone 
models in 2018. But they haven't all gone on sale 
yet - and there are reasons to hold off on the two most-expensive ones that hit 
stores on Friday: the $1,000 iPhone XS and $1,100 XS 
Max.
Wait, isn't the new iPhone the best ever? Yes - Apple would be in serious 
trouble if it wasn't. And I don't have to tell you what 
makes an iPhone great: simple design, a great camera, software that mostly just 
works and free Apple support.
But the changes in the XS are incremental. Compared to last year's iPhone X, 
it's a bit faster, has a bit better camera and has a 
slightly longer-lasting battery. If you can't live without those improvements, 
then stop reading and go buy an XS.
There's one other category of people who should buy now: those who want all the 
iPhone Apple will sell. The one actually big change 
in this year's iPhone crop is the XS Max. It's the X-Treme Big Gulp of iPhones: 
Measuring 6.5 inches, its screen is larger than a 
Snickers, a Subway sandwich or the heel on a 6-inch stiletto. The XS Max is the 
closest iPhone yet to carrying a computer in your 
pocket, and the version with 512 GB of storage costs as much as one: $1,450.
If these phones sound too big or too expensive, then good news: You've got 
options. Here are five reasons to hold off before buying 
the iPhone XS and what to get instead.
Reason 1: The iPhone XR is coming
Apple has an October surprise planned: Another new model, called the iPhone XR 
is coming Oct. 26 for $750.
It has a 6.1-inch version of the latest no-edges screen design and also Apple's 
fastest processor. The XR appears to be 90 percent 
as good as the iPhone XS for 75 percent of the price. (It also comes in cooler 
colors, including coral and blue.)
Come October, we'll be able to better judge the corners Apple cut with it. 
Those include a lower-quality screen, less-fancy case and 
just one back-facing camera. So just hang tight for a month.
Reason 2: Your thumbs rule
The iPhone XS and XS Max don't have fingerprint readers. Apple is putting the 
beloved home button out to pasture, in favor of the 
authenti-face system it debuted on the iPhone X, called FaceID. It works about 
90 percent of the time for me.
If your thumb is not ready to let go, you can grab a still-speedy and 
finger-friendly iPhone 8, which Apple is now selling for $600. 
Or, a new iPhone 7 costs just $450.
Reason 3: Your not-giant hands
The 5.7-inch XS is the smallest of Apple's new iPhones, but it is still pretty 
large for some people's hands. If you miss the old 
days when a phone could fit in a pair of skinny jeans, hunt down a 4-inch 
iPhone SE.
Apple has officially stopped selling the SE. But the version of the SE that 
came out in 2017 is still as speedy as an iPhone 6S and 
runs Apple's latest iOS 12. I found refurbished ones on eBay and elsewhere for 
$170. (Also, the Earth will thank you for buying 
something used.)
Reason 4: You're Android-curious
A new Pixel phone from Google is expected to arrive Oct. 9 that might make 
Apple people jealous. Google has wowed in the past with 
the quality of its camera, as well as its sleek version of the Android 
operating system.
And Samsung's $1,000 Note9 phone, which came out in August, in some ways 
out-maxes even the iPhone Xs Max. It has a 6.4-inch screen, 
a stylus, an iris reader, and even the ability to plug in a keyboard, mouse and 
desktop-sized monitor. Oh, and it comes in lavender.
Reason 5: You don't have $200 burning a hole in your pocket
You can buy an iPhone X, which is 95 percent as good as the new XS. Apple no 
longer officially sells it, but you can find one on 
eBay for about $800. Brand new. You'll get Face ID, dual back cameras, portrait 
mode and fun dancing-poop Animojis.
The iPhone X looks almost identical to the newest stuff, so no one will really 
know. And you'll be $200 richer.
2018 © The Washington Post

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Speak Andres need to turn off

[John McCallister]

I just got my new iPhone Max yesterday and this speak to raise is turned on is 
where you move your phone and just talk to you tell you the time I cannot 
figure out where to turn that off much help appreciated.

 

John Mac

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

Hi

 

I’m not having this problem with my iPhone 7. My problem is I can’t use the 4 
finger swipe to go to the different apps in the app switcher. This gesture 
worked flawlessly before updating to IOS 12.

 

Donna

 

I have been having some of the same problems with my iphone 7 and ios 12.  My 
screen does not respond and I lose voiceover.

 

Denise

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

Hi all,

 

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange app 
freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the screen 
becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to remove the 
app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native 
mail app and the Bard app.

 

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's not 
constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: Speak Andres need to turn off

[Gordon]

go into settings and then display. You'll find it there.


On 9/24/2018 8:11 AM, John McCallister wrote:


I just got my new iPhone Max yesterday and this speak to raise is 
turned on is where you move your phone and just talk to you tell you 
the time I cannot figure out where to turn that off much help appreciated.


John Mac

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Donna

*Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 6:54 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

Hi

I’m not having this problem with my iPhone 7. My problem is I can’t 
use the 4 finger swipe to go to the different apps in the app 
switcher. This gesture worked flawlessly before updating to IOS 12.


Donna

I have been having some of the same problems with my iphone 7 and
ios 12.  My screen does not respond and I lose voiceover.

Denise

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kimberly
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Subject:* iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

Hi all,

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing
strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely
freezes but rather the screen becomes unresponsive and the only
way to regain any activity is to remove the app from the app
switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native mail
app and the Bard app.

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about
it? It's not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Christopher Chaltain]

Again, I'm not following, but as you say, that's my fault and not due to 
any lack of clarity on your point.



Two factor authentication being used by others helps me since if someone 
has my contact stored in the cloud, and their account is compromised 
then I'm opened up to spam and other malware attacks.



As I said in my first email, I tend to agree with you, and people should 
have the freedom to determine their own level of security. I just think 
you're naive for thinking the security on your own phone only affects 
yourself. I also think it's ironic that someone who chooses to buy into 
the Apple ecosystem chooses a simple reminder to complain about living 
in a nanny state. Makes  me wonder how closely you've read your EULA 
from Apple.



On 09/24/2018 07:12 AM, Dave wrote:
I said it would be a waist of time, if other people deciding not to 
use it, affected, those who choose to have it on.


If you can't work out what i am saying, then i really can't be 
bothered, as i have things to do, and can't keep arguing the toss with 
you.


Dave.


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; Dave
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I don't get your statement that two factor authentication is a waste of
time. I'm not sure how greater security is a waste of time. I also think
your analogy is flawed. You're talking about a device on the network
that's using shared services and resources. I suppose if your house was
broken into and then was used as a base for criminal activity throughout
the neighborhood then it would be a better analogy, and if the police
reminding people to lock their doors to reduce crime in the
neighborhood, I'd be OK with that.


Equating a reminder to use two factor authentication with living in a
dictatorship is not only melodramatic, but it also trivializes the
plight of all of those people who do live in a dictatorship.


On 09/24/2018 06:52 AM, Dave wrote:

No it doesn't.

If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, 
then it shouldn't affect you at all.


If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification 
was a waist of time, as everyone would be affected.


If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, 
that is at risk of being burgled, and not you.


I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
decisions.


I left school quite some years ago.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.


Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
dictatorship.



On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:


In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, 
then at some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and 
they never popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
Of Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  
For some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for 
apple Id and two factor authentication. When I tap on the 
suggestion and/or tip whatever, it takes me into settings and I 
have the choice to install now, learn more, or not now.  This 
message pops up randomly and can appear as much as three to four 
times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not 
Disturb While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually 
for do not disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the 
car.  I still receive texts and other notifications while in the 
car but also this message. I cannot find in control center or 
notifications

RE: Pandora

[Robert Wright]

 Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Pandora

You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and you 
will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then on, 
you can have Siri play your chosen station.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve & 
Shannon Cook
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Pandora

I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for IOS 
12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do this.  My 
question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.  

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Re: Two factor authentication message

[Dave]

which password, are you meaning, as there are a few.

Dave.


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From: l.d.ethie...@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Dave
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

And Apple cannot help you if you lose your password.

Lyne

Le 24 sept. 2018 à 08:02, Christopher Chaltain  a 
écrit :


I don't get your statement that two factor authentication is a waste of 
time. I'm not sure how greater security is a waste of time. I also think 
your analogy is flawed. You're talking about a device on the network 
that's using shared services and resources. I suppose if your house was 
broken into and then was used as a base for criminal activity throughout 
the neighborhood then it would be a better analogy, and if the police 
reminding people to lock their doors to reduce crime in the neighborhood, 
I'd be OK with that.



Equating a reminder to use two factor authentication with living in a 
dictatorship is not only melodramatic, but it also trivializes the plight 
of all of those people who do live in a dictatorship.




On 09/24/2018 06:52 AM, Dave wrote:
No it doesn't.

If you have all your security, set up on your phone, and your Pc, then it 
shouldn't affect you at all.


If that was the case, then it would mean, that 2 factor varification was 
a waist of time, as everyone would be affected.


If i choose to leave my front door, unlocked at night, it will be me, 
that is at risk of being burgled, and not you.


I don't wish to live in a nanny state, and i am able to make my own 
decisions.


I left school quite some years ago.

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

I tend to agree with you, but it isn't true that how someone else sets
up their phone doesn't affect you. Having insecure devices on the
internet and networks negatively impacts all of us.


Also, how Apple chooses to remind people to make their devices more
secure has nothing to do with whether you live in a democracy or a
dictatorship.




On 09/24/2018 06:22 AM, Dave wrote:

In your opinion.

It's up to the individual, how they, choose to use their own property.

Not you or Apple.

It doesn't affect you, how a person decides, to set up their phone.

I live in a Democracy, and not a Dictatorship!

Dave.


-Original Message- From: Øyvind Lode
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication message

Everyone should have two factor authentication enabled.
I have two factor authentication enabled for my Apple ID and Google
account and it greatly improves security.
So, I understand why Apple continues to nag about enabelling two
factor authentication 
It's actually a very good idea to use that extra layer of security for
your Apple ID and other accounts.

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 at 04:14, Sieghard Weitzel  
wrote:


As for Do Not Disturb while driving I used to get these as well, then 
at some point I toggled it to automatic and back to manual and they 
never popped up again.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kathy Kalaluhi

Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication message

Hi
Did anyone respond to this question?  I am having the same issue.  For 
some odd reason, my phone has been giving me a "suggestion for apple Id 
and two factor authentication.  When I tap on the suggestion and/or tip 
whatever, it takes me into settings and I have the choice to install 
now, learn more, or not now.  This message pops up randomly and can 
appear as much as three to four times a day.


I also continue to receive a suggestion that I can turn on Do not 
Disturb While driving.  I went into settings and selected manually for 
do not disturb.  However, it pops up every time I get into the car.  I 
still receive texts and other notifications while in the car but also 
this message.  I cannot find in control center or notifications where 
to get rid of these suggestions or tips or whatever they are called. If 
anyone can help, I surely would appreciate it.

Kathy

-Original Message-
From: 'Simon W' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two factor authentication message

Hi everyone! Does anybody know how to turn off the notification where 
it asks for two Factor authentication in my settings on the iphone?


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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Angie Nutt]

Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that off.

All the best
Angie


> On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have to 
> enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize the 
> finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain out 
> of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has a 
> touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, we 
> could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get real. I 
> think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, 
> but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, 
> he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>> 
>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>>> reply, "Good for you."
>>> 
>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
>>> 
>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>>> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
>>> 
>>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>>> for the garage door system.
>>> 
>>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>>> (smile)
>>> 
>>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>>> the opener.
>>> 
>>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>>> Smile).
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Mary Otten]

Hi sieghard,
Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than a 
passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the passcode if 
that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going forward, once the 
iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you can go back to using 
just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch ID. For my particular 
use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already had the discussion 
about security issues surrounding having attention mode turned off. The fact 
that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still offering a choice between 
face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would indicate that there is some 
validity to the idea that not everybody is thrilled with face ID. All I wish is 
that Apple gave us that choice. They choose not to. So there you go. 
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi   Marry,
> 
> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor and 
> we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is best 
> so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 3.5mm 
> audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on popular 
> demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was put up to a 
> vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved Face Id, 
> also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger anywhere on 
> the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id sensor. If you 
> follow the tech news a bit you know how much people complained when I think 
> it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back of the phone because they 
> of course also got rid of the home button. It is my guess that one day phones 
> will have no more buttons at all except maybe for the on/off button.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have to 
> enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize the 
> finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain out 
> of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has a 
> touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, we 
> could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get real. I 
> think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, 
> but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, 
> he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>>> 
>>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>>> reply, "Good for you."
>>> 
>>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
>>> 
>>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>>> someone who would care either one way or the other.  
>>> 
>>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>>> Fac

Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Mário Navarro]

Hi.
This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before 
doing a total reset: DFU Mode.
I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to 
me on your phone.

And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what 
I did...
Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in 
IOS 10.

cheers.


Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:

Hi all,

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing 
strange app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes 
but rather the screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain 
any activity is to remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. 
This has happened to me in the native mail app and the Bard app.


Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? 
It's not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.


Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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RE: Speak Andres need to turn off

[John McCallister]

Thanks

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 9:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speak Andres need to turn off

 

go into settings and then display. You'll find it there. 

 

On 9/24/2018 8:11 AM, John McCallister wrote:

I just got my new iPhone Max yesterday and this speak to raise is turned on is 
where you move your phone and just talk to you tell you the time I cannot 
figure out where to turn that off much help appreciated.

 

John Mac

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of Donna
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

Hi

 

I’m not having this problem with my iPhone 7. My problem is I can’t use the 4 
finger swipe to go to the different apps in the app switcher. This gesture 
worked flawlessly before updating to IOS 12.

 

Donna

 

I have been having some of the same problems with my iphone 7 and ios 12.  My 
screen does not respond and I lose voiceover.

 

Denise

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 12:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

 

Hi all,

 

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange app 
freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the screen 
becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to remove the 
app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native 
mail app and the Bard app.

 

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's not 
constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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RE: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Carla Dawson]

I will turn that off.  My battery in my iPhone 7 is horrid now!  Also turnyour 
screen downin display because mine went up to 82 percent after upgrading.  I 
turned it down to 12 percent.
 
 
From: 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 10:01 PM
To: 'Adrian Leong' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8
 
Hey guys. According to a Youtube video from a guy called Jeff, AKA Tech Review, 
one of the culprits of battery drainage is a new feature in iOS 12 called 
Screen Time. With screen time enabled, iOS 12 logs your daily usage of your 
phone. Try turning that off and see if that makes a difference. Here's a link 
to that video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOlEgOATxpc
 
Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
 
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On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net 
 > wrote:
 
That tracking is a battery sucker - I got rid of that. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is dropping 
and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. Under settings, 
(privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no longer appears in 
the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) should region 
tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other features that should be 
disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power? 

Thank you. 

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RE: What are people's experiences with wireless charging?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you have your phone in a case and, if so, what sort of case?
If it is that finnicky I would take it back and try a different pad, an iPhone 
certainly isn't moving half an inch or even a quarter of an inch from normal 
vibrations, maybe it would if you had a major construction side directly next 
to you.
I just recently listened to a Podcast from the Woodwhisperer where the guy 
built a desk and he routed out a resess underneath the desktop so that the 
material there was only about 3/16 of an inch thick, he then installed the 
charging pad in this resess with a bit of hot glue and this way he could put 
the phone on it to charge without the desktop actually having the charging pad 
sitting on it. He played around with various thicknesses, when he left a 
quarter of an inch of wood it didn't work yet so he took out another sixteenth 
and then it worked, but only if his phone was in a thin case.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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Hardy
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 11:41 PM
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Subject: What are people's experiences with wireless charging?

Hi all,

I just purchased the Belkin Boost Up Special Edition Wireless Charging Pad from 
my local Apple Store to wirelessly charge my iPhone XS Max.

I’m taken aback by how precisely the phone has to be positioned on the wireless 
charging pad, to the point where a half an inch or less difference in 
positioning makes all the difference. I basically have to align the phone very 
precisely in order for it to charge. Then, over the course of a few minutes, 
possibly due to the normal vibrations within the room, the phone moves about a 
half an inch away from the original position and stops charging.

In reading the reviews from the Apple Canada Store, it seems others are having 
this issue with these products. In my imagination, the point of wireless 
charging is to just plunk your phone on a surface and not have to worry about 
fiddling around with anything—it’ll just charge. But this hasn’t been my 
experience with this particular charger.

What do others think? Are there wireless charging pads that work better?

Thanks,

Grant

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Re: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Mário Navarro]

Hi, Shawn.
Great tip!


thanks.


cheers.



Às 06:00 de 24/09/2018, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone escreveu:
Hey guys. According to a Youtube video from a guy called Jeff, AKA 
Tech Review, one of the culprits of battery drainage is a new feature 
in iOS 12 called Screen Time. With screen time enabled, iOS 12 logs 
your daily usage of your phone. Try turning that off and see if that 
makes a difference. Here's a link to that video. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOlEgOATxpc


Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

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On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net > wrote:


That tracking is a battery sucker - I got rid of that.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power 
is dropping and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the 
status bar. Under settings, (privacy) I turned location services off. 
Region tracking no longer appears in the status bar. However, my 
battery is still dropping. (1) should region tracking appear in the 
status bar? (2) are there other features that should be disabled in 
IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery power?


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Re: Just press record Siri shortcut

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

is just press record not native? I don’t recall seeing it at any time.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 22:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Just press record Siri shortcut

Mary, Record something in Just Press Record. Then check Siri settings and you 
should find a shortcut.
HTH,
Richard


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On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


  I read somewhere that just press record is now working with Siri shortcuts. I 
went into the Siri settings, and I didn’t see any shortcuts for that app. I see 
shortcuts for a Overcast, Mail, Weather, and Safari. But nothing for just press 
record. What am I missing?
  Mary


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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Anthony Vece]

Mary;
When I can’t get my Face ID to work i use my passcode and it works just fine.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi   Marry,
>> 
>> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
 
 A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
 me
 how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
 reply, "Good for you."
 
 Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
 opener
 which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
 
 
 Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
 feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
 complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
 Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
 his
 bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
 the phone would not recognize him in the dark.  
 
>

Re: Pandora

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, it was on the news this morning.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:
> 
> Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
>  
> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
> ***
>  
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Pandora
>  
> You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and you 
> will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
> Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then on, 
> you can have Siri play your chosen station.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
> & Shannon Cook
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Pandora
>  
> I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps for 
> IOS 12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can do 
> this.  My question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station. 
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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Rizzino, Bonnie]

I have not found that face Id is a huge issue. I got an XS on Friday and have 
had no problems as a totally blind user of it, even with attention mode turned 
on. If it is troublesome, it's very easy to enter your pass code.

Thanks
-Original Message-
From: Anthony Vece [mailto:ajv...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Mary;
When I can’t get my Face ID to work i use my passcode and it works just fine.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hi   Marry,
>>
>> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>>
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

 A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
 me
 how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
 reply, "Good for you."

 Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
 opener
 which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.


 Last night, he cal

Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

[Mário Navarro]

Hi.

Most of my friends in Portugal and Brazil are with this issue...
And now here in the group, some people also report the same issue.
What else can I tell you?
cheers.



Às 05:30 de 24/09/2018, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone escreveu:
I lock my recordings all the time in Whatsapp and I don't get this 
issue. Also, I'm a part of seven groups. Three of which I've created 
myself. I've never heard any of the participants in these groups 
experience this issue. So saying that every blind person is 
experiencing this issue is inaccurate.


Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com 

On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lynn White > wrote:


Mario,

You are right about this being a problem with this update.  Steve’s 
observation is right about it being like a slap back echo.  I do 
wonder if the common thread is locking the record button.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:54 AM, Mário Navarro > wrote:





Hi Steve.
Yes, it is true, it is a issue that is only real in this WhatsApp 
update...

all People who have upgraded to this version all have this issue.
I mean, blind people, personal friends, and friends in discussion groups
Now we just need to know if it is an app issue, or accessibility 
issue related to VO...

cheers.


Às 08:33 de 23/09/2018, Steve Matzura escreveu:
Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are 
slow and have slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.




On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:

Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a 
message in Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 
seconds and the audio being garbled?


I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into 
this.  Is there someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted? Thanks.






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Re: Pandora

[Patti Johnson]

I wonder what this means?
Patti


On 9/24/18, Anthony Vece  wrote:
> Yes, it was on the news this morning.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Robert Wright 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
>>
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
>>***
>>
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Pandora
>>
>> You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and
>> you will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
>> Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then
>> on, you can have Siri play your chosen station.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Steve & Shannon Cook
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Pandora
>>
>> I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps
>> for IOS 12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can
>> do this.  My question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

['Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone]

Actually, apple bought a company to get touchID on screens with no buttons like 
Samsung.  The issue they are having is the feature makes the phone a lot 
thicker than they want it.  So right now they are working on how to keep the 
phone thin, and have this software in it that will allow you to use touchID 
anywhere on the screen.  At least that is what I was told by a few reliable 
apple techs.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi   Marry,
>> 
>> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
>>> the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
>>> iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Everyone,
 
 As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
 
 A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling 
 me
 how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
 reply, "Good for you."
 
 Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
 opener
 which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
 
 
 Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
 feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
 complainin

RE: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There was a Whats App update yesterday, it didn’t say anything about this, have 
some of you reported it to Wjhats App support? I don’t use Whats App often and 
when I do then I use it to make actual voice or video calls just as much as I 
use it to send voice messages.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mário 
Navarro
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem With Whatsapp and iPhone 8






Hi.

Most of my friends in Portugal and Brazil are with this issue...
And now here in the group, some people also report the same issue.
What else can I tell you?
cheers.


Às 05:30 de 24/09/2018, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone escreveu:
I lock my recordings all the time in Whatsapp and I don't get this issue. Also, 
I'm a part of seven groups. Three of which I've created myself. I've never 
heard any of the participants in these groups experience this issue. So saying 
that every blind person is experiencing this issue is inaccurate.

Regards,
Shawn,
Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air

Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com


On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Lynn White 
mailto:lynnwhite...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Mario,

You are right about this being a problem with this update.  Steve’s observation 
is right about it being like a slap back echo.  I do wonder if the common 
thread is locking the record button.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2018, at 3:54 AM, Mário Navarro 
mailto:mario@gmail.com>> wrote:




Hi Steve.
Yes, it is true, it is a issue that is only real in this WhatsApp update...
all People who have upgraded to this version all have this issue.
I mean, blind people, personal friends, and friends in discussion groups
Now we just need to know if it is an app issue, or accessibility issue related 
to VO...
cheers.


Às 08:33 de 23/09/2018, Steve Matzura escreveu:

Haven't had garbling, but sometimes folks get messages that are slow and have 
slapback echo. Sounds real funny when it happens.



On 9/22/2018 5:36 PM, Lynn White wrote:

Sent from my iPhoneHas anyone else had an issue where you record a message in 
Whatsapp and having the message cut short to about 30 seconds and the audio 
being garbled?

I have run into several friends of mine who have also run into this.  Is there 
someone at Whatsapp that can be contacted? Thanks.


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Re: Pandora

[Anthony Vece]

Only time will tell.


Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:11 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I wonder what this means?
> Patti
> 
> 
>> On 9/24/18, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> Yes, it was on the news this morning.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Robert Wright 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you heard that Sirius/XM has purchased Pandora?
>>> 
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
>>>   ***
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:39 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Pandora
>>> 
>>> You have to play the station you want, stop it, go into Siri settings and
>>> you will find a suggested shortcut for that station.
>>> Then, you can record a phrase like play Joni Mitchell radio and from then
>>> on, you can have Siri play your chosen station.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
>>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Steve & Shannon Cook
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:19 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Pandora
>>> 
>>> I have an iPhone 7 with the current IOS.  I have updated all of my apps
>>> for IOS 12.  I know with 12 you can ask Pandora to play using SIRI, I can
>>> do this.  My question is how do you have Pandora play a certain station.
>>> 
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RE: 5 reasons to wait...

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Speakers according to Apple are improved somewhat but I think they are the same 
on all three new iPhones.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Wright
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 5 reasons to wait...

I noticedthat this author doesn’t mention anything about the speakers on these 
devices.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for 
you!
***

From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: 5 reasons to wait...

The New IPhone Is in Stores. Here Are 5 Reasons to Wait Before Buying It -
Just think about it.
GEOFFREY A. FOWLER, THE WASHINGTON POST
22 SEP 2018
Hell
o there, savvy iPhone shopper. Ready for an upgrade? There are a few things you 
should know before emptying your wallet at the Apple
store.
It's an especially confusing moment: Apple will sell no fewer than eight iPhone 
models in 2018. But they haven't all gone on sale
yet - and there are reasons to hold off on the two most-expensive ones that hit 
stores on Friday: the $1,000 iPhone XS and $1,100 XS
Max.
Wait, isn't the new iPhone the best ever? Yes - Apple would be in serious 
trouble if it wasn't. And I don't have to tell you what
makes an iPhone great: simple design, a great camera, software that mostly just 
works and free Apple support.
But the changes in the XS are incremental. Compared to last year's iPhone X, 
it's a bit faster, has a bit better camera and has a
slightly longer-lasting battery. If you can't live without those improvements, 
then stop reading and go buy an XS.
There's one other category of people who should buy now: those who want all the 
iPhone Apple will sell. The one actually big change
in this year's iPhone crop is the XS Max. It's the X-Treme Big Gulp of iPhones: 
Measuring 6.5 inches, its screen is larger than a
Snickers, a Subway sandwich or the heel on a 6-inch stiletto. The XS Max is the 
closest iPhone yet to carrying a computer in your
pocket, and the version with 512 GB of storage costs as much as one: $1,450.
If these phones sound too big or too expensive, then good news: You've got 
options. Here are five reasons to hold off before buying
the iPhone XS and what to get instead.
Reason 1: The iPhone XR is coming
Apple has an October surprise planned: Another new model, called the iPhone XR 
is coming Oct. 26 for $750.
It has a 6.1-inch version of the latest no-edges screen design and also Apple's 
fastest processor. The XR appears to be 90 percent
as good as the iPhone XS for 75 percent of the price. (It also comes in cooler 
colors, including coral and blue.)
Come October, we'll be able to better judge the corners Apple cut with it. 
Those include a lower-quality screen, less-fancy case and
just one back-facing camera. So just hang tight for a month.
Reason 2: Your thumbs rule
The iPhone XS and XS Max don't have fingerprint readers. Apple is putting the 
beloved home button out to pasture, in favor of the
authenti-face system it debuted on the iPhone X, called FaceID. It works about 
90 percent of the time for me.
If your thumb is not ready to let go, you can grab a still-speedy and 
finger-friendly iPhone 8, which Apple is now selling for $600.
Or, a new iPhone 7 costs just $450.
Reason 3: Your not-giant hands
The 5.7-inch XS is the smallest of Apple's new iPhones, but it is still pretty 
large for some people's hands. If you miss the old
days when a phone could fit in a pair of skinny jeans, hunt down a 4-inch 
iPhone SE.
Apple has officially stopped selling the SE. But the version of the SE that 
came out in 2017 is still as speedy as an iPhone 6S and
runs Apple's latest iOS 12. I found refurbished ones on eBay and elsewhere for 
$170. (Also, the Earth will thank you for buying
something used.)
Reason 4: You're Android-curious
A new Pixel phone from Google is expected to arrive Oct. 9 that might make 
Apple people jealous. Google has wowed in the past with
the quality of its camera, as well as its sleek version of the Android 
operating system.
And Samsung's $1,000 Note9 phone, which came out in August, in some ways 
out-maxes even the iPhone Xs Max. It has a 6.4-inch screen,
a stylus, an iris reader, and even the ability to plug in a keyboard, mouse and 
desktop-sized monitor. Oh, and it comes in lavender.
Reason 5: You don't have $200 burning a hole in your pocket
You can buy an iPhone X, which is 95 percent as good as the new XS. Apple no 
longer officially sells it, but you can find one on
eBay for about $800. Brand new. You'll get Face ID, dual back cameras, portrait 
mode and fun dancing-poop Animojis.
The iPhone X looks almost identical to the newest stuff, so no one will really 
know. And you'll be $200 richer.
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RE: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mario,

Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus which 
has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit faster and 
snappier.
As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would ask 
when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. I 
would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly suggest 
a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it involved 
is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to what you want 
it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a pretty easy 
process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot of time. If it 
doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set it up as a new 
device first and make sure all is well, then restore your backup a day or two 
later. If the problems return then you know that the backup also restored the 
problems which sometimes can happen and the only way then is to restore again, 
set up as a new phone and manually put everything back the way you like.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mário 
Navarro
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi.
This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before doing a 
total reset: DFU Mode.
I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me on 
your phone.
And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I 
did...
Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in IOS 10.
cheers.

Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:
Hi all,

Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange app 
freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the screen 
becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to remove the 
app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in the native 
mail app and the Bard app.

Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's not 
constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.

Thanks for your thoughts.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That means nothing Apple also invested a huge amount of money years ago in a 
company which produces sapphire crystal and for a bit everybody was expecting 
all new iPhones to have sapphire crystal as the touch screen and look where 
that went. Now Apple is using a new formulation of Gorilla glass which by now 
is probably almost as good as or maybe just as good as sapphire.
I agree that in a year or two or three maybe all phoes come standard with Face 
Id as well as a screen where you can put your finger anywhere and it will read 
your fingerprint, but then again maybe Apple bought said company because they 
don't believe in Touch Id and they want to simply shut them down and take them 
away from other companies.

-Original Message-
From: 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Actually, apple bought a company to get touchID on screens with no buttons like 
Samsung.  The issue they are having is the feature makes the phone a lot 
thicker than they want it.  So right now they are working on how to keep the 
phone thin, and have this software in it that will allow you to use touchID 
anywhere on the screen.  At least that is what I was told by a few reliable 
apple techs.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi sieghard,
> Of course people didn’t complain when  touch ID was introduced, because it’s 
> easy, for the vast majority of people at least, and it’s more convenient than 
> a passcode. You still didn’t have to use it. You could keep using the 
> passcode if that’s what you wanted. Now we have Face ID or nothing going 
> forward, once the iPhone 8 and older are out of the system. Of course, you 
> can go back to using just the passcode, which is a downgrade from using touch 
> ID. For my particular use case, face ID is less convenient, and we’ve already 
> had the discussion about security issues surrounding having attention mode 
> turned off. The fact that some manufacturers, such as Samsung, are still 
> offering a choice between face recognition or a fingerprint sensor would 
> indicate that there is some validity to the idea that not everybody is 
> thrilled with face ID. All I wish is that Apple gave us that choice. They 
> choose not to. So there you go. 
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi   Marry,
>> 
>> You say we shouldn't be forced to use Face Id, interestingly 
>> enough when Apple introduced Touch Id or enter a passcode I don't recall 
>> people complaining about being "dforced" to use Touch Id. Of course this 
>> mainly had to do because prior to Touch Id it was enter a passcode or 
>> nothing, but Apple has shown that Face Id is more secure by a huge factor 
>> and we all know it has always been Apple's way to give us what they think is 
>> best so there is little point foro anybody to complain, just like with the 
>> 3.5mm audio jack, Apple   will not suddenly say next year that based on 
>> popular demand they are bringing back Touch Id and in any case, if it was 
>> put up to a vote I doubt Touch Id would win especially now with the improved 
>> Face Id, also unless they can figure out how to let you put your finger 
>> anywhere on the screen for Touch Id, where would they put the Touch Id 
>> sensor. If you follow the tech news a bit you know how much people 
>> complained when I think it was Samsung put the Touch Id sensor on the back 
>> of the phone because they of course also got rid of the home button. It is 
>> my guess that one day phones will have no more buttons at all except maybe 
>> for the on/off button.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, how 
>> many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I have 
>> to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t recognize 
>> the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds like a mountain 
>> out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times everybody who has 
>> a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one occasion or another, 
>> we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite sure. So let’s get 
>> real. I think there should be an alternative. We shouldn’t be forced to use 
>> Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner 
>> or later, he will be using something besides touch ID if you want to stay 
>> with Apple.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After hear

Re: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8

[Gerardo Corripio]

On my Dad’s (formerly mine) 5S, last night, the battery during the night, 
dropped from 49 to 16%. I too turned off Screen Tie hoping it’ll better the 
battery behavior. The 5S will be two years old this NOvember, thus I’d imagine 
the battery is still alright? 

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 24 sep 2018, a la(s) 12:00 a. m., 'Shawn Krasniuk' via VIPhone 
 escribió:

> Hey guys. According to a Youtube video from a guy called Jeff, AKA Tech 
> Review, one of the culprits of battery drainage is a new feature in iOS 12 
> called Screen Time. With screen time enabled, iOS 12 logs your daily usage of 
> your phone. Try turning that off and see if that makes a difference. Here's a 
> link to that video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOlEgOATxpc
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
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> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That tracking is a battery sucker - I got rid of that. 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Carolyn 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Battery power dropping in iIphone 8
>> 
>> Good morning: I am using the Iphone 8 with IOS 12. My battery power is 
>> dropping and I realized that Region tracking appeared in the status bar. 
>> Under settings, (privacy) I turned location services off. Region tracking no 
>> longer appears in the status bar. However, my battery is still dropping. (1) 
>> should region tracking appear in the status bar? (2) are there other 
>> features that should be disabled in IOS 8 to avoid the droppage in battery 
>> power? 
>> 
>> Thank you. 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Devin Prater]

Oh, I think it was his biking helmet. That would have changed his face enough 
to make it not work.

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 8:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If you go back 5 years you can read the same sort of stories about the then 
> new Touch Id.
> Fingerprint scanners of course have been around on various laptops, 
> electronic doors and so on for a lot longer, but it's also interesting that 
> until Apple came out with Touch Id they never worked very reliably. I 
> remember I once bought a fingerprint deadbolt for my front door and man was I 
> sometimes cursing when I was standing there in the cold trying to unlock my 
> door only to finally dig out the good old key and of course fingerprint 
> doorlocks have all but disappeared.
> Yes, Touch Id on the iPhone especially the second generation  Touch Id on the 
> 6S and up (5S and iPhone SE have first generation Touch Id) works well if it 
> does work, but as I said in my other message, it only works well if your 
> little fingers don't see a lot of manual labour.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> This is one of the main reasons I went with the 8 instead of the newer 
> phones. I was almost sold on the stereo recording, but we know how that 
> went. So I'll be able to hang on to my finger print iPhone 8 for a 
> couple of years. By then maybe they will have advanced face ID since 
> they are forcing face ID on us.
> 
> 
> On 9/23/2018 6:05 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.
>> 
>> A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always telling me
>> how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I always
>> reply, "Good for you."
>> 
>> Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door opener
>> which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his home.
>> 
>> 
>> Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so late, I
>> feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
>> complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone because
>> Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as his
>> bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet off,
>> the phone would not recognize him in the dark.
>> 
>> I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
>> spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
>> someone who would care either one way or the other.
>> 
>> What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so confident in
>> Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote control
>> for the garage door system.
>> 
>> He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
>> (smile)
>> 
>> He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control for
>> the opener.
>> 
>> Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them,  (Big
>> Smile).
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Mary,

Yes, the book is from Audible, and Dan Harris, the narrator, reads the link. 
You type what he says into your computer.

HTH,
Anna




> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> OK, I’m really confused now. We’re talking about an audible book, right? So 
> somebody is reading this book say on your phone. I just don’t know how to 
> translate a phone audio only thing into links. Maybe there’s a PDF thing in 
> my audible library.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Anna Dresner  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations are 
>> in the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the app. 
>> Again, this is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Anna,
>>> I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the 
>>> app. Where did you go to find a code?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation 
 for fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content 
 free. There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. 
 There may be more, but that's what I know about.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  > wrote:
> 
> 
> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after 
> the app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way 
> through the meditation basics ever since.
> 
> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in 
> the app are also available on YouTube. 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
> we go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty  > wrote:
> 
>> Anna,
>> 
>> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
>> Happier app.
>> 
>> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded 
>> that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, not 
>> weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly $100 
>> purchase before using the app for quite some time.
>> 
>> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
>> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
>> later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
>> content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
>> content is not accessible.)
>> 
>> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
>> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
>> 
>> Thanks so much.
>> 
>> Richard Petty
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 
>> 10% Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of 
>> accessibility issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know 
>> whether everything is accessible, but it's definitely much easier to see 
>> what courses are available, choose one, and choose a particular 
>> meditation. I'm thrilled that the developers are taking accessibility 
>> seriously.
>> 
>> Best,
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Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Jim Fettgather]

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

[Mary Otten]

OK. I definitely have that book. So I guess I will have to go back and read it 
again and pay particular attention for link. I’m not always near my computer 
when I read books. Smile.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Yes, the book is from Audible, and Dan Harris, the narrator, reads the link. 
> You type what he says into your computer.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> OK, I’m really confused now. We’re talking about an audible book, right? So 
>> somebody is reading this book say on your phone. I just don’t know how to 
>> translate a phone audio only thing into links. Maybe there’s a PDF thing in 
>> my audible library.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations 
>>> are in the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the app. 
>>> Again, this is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Anna,
 I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the 
 app. Where did you go to find a code?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation 
> for fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content 
> free. There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. 
> There may be more, but that's what I know about.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after 
>> the app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way 
>> through the meditation basics ever since.
>> 
>> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in 
>> the app are also available on YouTube. 
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it 
>> that we go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
>>> Happier app.
>>> 
>>> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded 
>>> that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, 
>>> not weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly 
>>> $100 purchase before using the app for quite some time.
>>> 
>>> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
>>> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
>>> later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
>>> content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
>>> content is not accessible.)
>>> 
>>> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
>>> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> 
>>> Richard Petty
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>>> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 
>>> 10% Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of 
>>> accessibility issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know 
>>> whether everything is accessible, but it's definitely much easier to 
>>> see what courses are available, choose one, and choose a particular 
>>> meditation. I'm thrilled that the developers are taking accessibility 
>>> seriously.
>>> 
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>>> Anna
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[M Beggs]

Angie
it must be all the dishes you wash for your old man smile

-Original Message- 
From: Angie Nutt

Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
Them, (Smile)


Yes, I’ve had so much trouble with my finger print that I’ve switched that 
off.


All the best
Angie



On 24 Sep 2018, at 03:20, Mary Otten  wrote:

I am not a fan of face ID. I would rather stick with touch ID. However, 
how many times has touch ID failed you? I have certainly had failed me. I 
have to enter my passcode from time to time, because the phone hasn’t 
recognize the finger that is in there for touch ID. This really sounds 
like a mountain out of a mole hill to me. If you think about all the times 
everybody who has a touch ID phone has had that not work for them on one 
occasion or another, we could string lots of anecdotes together I’m quite 
sure. So let’s get real. I think there should be an alternative. We 
shouldn’t be forced to use Face ID, but Apple thinks otherwise. Buy an 
iPhone 8 if you want. But sooner or later, he will be using something 
besides touch ID if you want to stay with Apple.


Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2018, at 4:43 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:


After hearing about these face ID fill your stories, I do not want to get 
the new iPhone with Face ID. I am like you mark I would rather get the 
iPhone 8 plus go with the fingerprint is long as I can.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2018, at 6:05 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Everyone,

As you may know, I am not yet sold on the reliability of Face ID.

A sighted friend of mine, a big, big big fan of Face ID is always 
telling me
how much he loves Face ID and how well it works for him; to which I 
always

reply, "Good for you."

Well, he recently purchased the 10 S Max along with a new garage door 
opener
which is supposed to be activated via Face ID, when he approaches his 
home.



Last night, he called me at approximately 11:30pm.  Since it was so 
late, I

feared that he had some kind of family emergency but no; he called
complaining that he could not get into his garage using his iPhone 
because
Face ID would not recognize him in the dark, in his motorcycle helmet as 
his
bike approached.  He said, to his dismay, even when he took his helmet 
off,

the phone would not recognize him in the dark.

I could not stop laughing.  I don't know why he called me as we have not
spoken in quite some time but I suspect that he just wanted to vent to
someone who would care either one way or the other.

What made me laugh even harder was the fact that he had been so 
confident in
Face ID on the new phone that he decided not to purchase a remote 
control

for the garage door system.

He was so angry at Face ID and the phone that he could not let it go.
(smile)

He sent me a text, today, telling me that he purchased a remote control 
for

the opener.

Just another great Face ID failure story, I can't get enough of them, 
(Big

Smile).

Mark


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Re: Just press record Siri shortcut

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard,

No, it doesn't come with the watch. You can get it in the app store though.

Best,
Anna




> On Sep 24, 2018, at 9:55 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> is just press record not native? I don’t recall seeing it at any time.
>  
> From: Richard Turner 
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 22:47
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Just press record Siri shortcut
>  
> Mary, Record something in Just Press Record. Then check Siri settings and you 
> should find a shortcut.
> HTH,
> Richard
>  
>  
> "The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
> place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
> Nevill
>  
>  
> [Sent from my little hand-held computer]
>  
> 
> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten  > wrote:
> 
>> I read somewhere that just press record is now working with Siri shortcuts. 
>> I went into the Siri settings, and I didn’t see any shortcuts for that app. 
>> I see shortcuts for a Overcast, Mail, Weather, and Safari. But nothing for 
>> just press record. What am I missing?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

[Wayne Merritt]

Good day. I bought a used Apple Watch Series 2 from a friend last
week. One issue that has come up which I am trying to solve is
deleting music. I am subscribed to Apple Music and have my phone set
to download music when it is added to a playlist. However, no matter
how many times I go to the watch app on my iPhone 8 Plus and toggle
the switches off, when I then back out and go back to check, they have
turned on again. The problem is that my watch is getting filled with
music that I can't listen to without Bluetooth headphones. I have no
interest in getting Bluetooth headphones. How can I tell the watch to
stop downloading music and remove the music which has already been
added? I went into music settings on the iPhone and told it to stop
downloading newly added music, thinking that it would fix the problem,
but music is still on there and the switches are still toggled on in
the watch app. I would like to be able to add more watch apps, but I'm
afraid the watch will fill up with music and leave no room for
anything else.

Many thanks,
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Re: Battery status bluetooth headphones

[Maria Reyes]

Make sure you are in notification center before doing the 3 finger swipe left. 
you should hear VO say Today. 

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:19 AM, gianni morelli  wrote:
> 
> 3 finger swipe left, how do I do this with voiceover cuz it doesn’t seem to 
> work?
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> Skype: giannijuve
> 
>> Op 24 sep. 2018 om 13:14 heeft Maria Reyes  het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Go to notification center and three finger swipe to the left. you should 
>> hear today. hit the edit button at the bottom of the screen. You should see 
>> a whole bunch of widgets you can add. One of them should be batteries. Hit 
>> the insert batteries button then go to the top of the screen and hit the 
>> done button. Flick through your widgets until you hear the batteries 
>> heading. you should see your iPhone battery status and the battery status of 
>> your headphones. 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:53 AM, gianni morelli  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I bought a new iphone.
>>> In the status bar I can’t see the battery status from my bluetooth 
>>> headphones. Does anyone know where I can view it?
>>> 
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Siri shortcuts not syncing over to my iPad mini two

[Mary Otten]

I had the idea that if I had some Siri shortcuts activated on my iPhone, they 
would be activated also on my iPad, assuming that they were relevant. For 
instance, I do have a shortcut for calling somebody on my phone. That doesn’t 
seem relevant to the iPad, since it’s not a phone. However, I have another 
shortcut that relates to mailing to somebody, and several for an app called my 
radio tuner pro. The apps are installed and up to date on my iPad. Nothing has 
come across. I know that short cuts are available in these apps, the mail app 
and myTuner Pro. But nothing that I have made active on my phone by giving a 
shortcut Siri activation word, none of those have come across. What am I 
missing?
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braille screen input problems?

[Dan]

  
  
HI,

  
I tried to use the braille screen input for the first time
since installing IOS 12.

  
It definitely has problems.  When touching the spot for dot 1
or dot 2 it always says "a".  I can't get it to announce comma
at all.

  
It also seems that the spots on the screen are narrower now
so it is harder to do accurate braille keyboarding.

  
I am using it in away mode on an Iphone six.
  

  
Anyone else having these issues?

  
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Re: braille screen input problems?

[Chris Chaffin]

I use Braille Input on a regular basis in away mode and have not had any 
problems after updating to iOS 12.
Have you tried recalibrating the keyboard?

Chris


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Dan  wrote:
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> HI,
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to use the braille screen input for the first time since installing 
> IOS 12.
> 
> 
> 
> It definitely has problems.  When touching the spot for dot 1 or dot 2 it 
> always says "a".  I can't get it to announce comma at all.
> 
> 
> 
> It also seems that the spots on the screen are narrower now so it is harder 
> to do accurate braille keyboarding.
> 
> 
> 
> I am using it in away mode on an Iphone six.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone else having these issues?
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
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Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12

[Kimberly]

Well, I just did a reset of network settings because it was the easier of the 
various options I thought I had. I’ll give it a few days and see if it makes a 
difference. The problem has been occurring frequently enough that I should know 
after a couple of days if the reset has worked. Thanks for the ideas.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mario,
>  
> Hopefully in time you’ll be more happy with iOS 12 because on my 6S Plus 
> which has the same processor as your SE I find everything is just a bit 
> faster and snappier.
> As for the issue described by Kim and Denise I would agree, first I would ask 
> when they upgraded, if it was just recently then I would ask whether they 
> closed all apps in the app switcher before upgrading and rebooted the phone. 
> I would also ask if they rebooted the phones after upgrading and possibly 
> suggest a reset network settings first. This may or may not help, but all it 
> involved is having to reenter your WiFi password and renaming the phone to 
> what you want it to be in Settings > General > About, so all in all it’s a 
> pretty easy process and if it fixes the issue then it would save them a lot 
> of time. If it doesn’t help then yes, do a backup and restore the phone, set 
> it up as a new device first and make sure all is well, then restore your 
> backup a day or two later. If the problems return then you know that the 
> backup also restored the problems which sometimes can happen and the only way 
> then is to restore again, set up as a new phone and manually put everything 
> back the way you like.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mário 
> Navarro
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone7 frequently freezing since updating to iOS12
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi.
> This was one of the bad things that happened to me on my phone before doing a 
> total reset: DFU Mode.
> I don't mean with this, that everything is the same as what happened to me on 
> your phone.
> And even less that you have to do what I had to do...
> But if you keep having problems, the best way to solve them is just what I 
> did...
> Now everything works normally and I'm  happy with my phone as it was in IOS 
> 10.
> cheers.
> 
>  
> Às 08:00 de 24/09/2018, Kimberly escreveu:
> Hi all,
>  
> Ever since updating to iOS12 on my iphone 7 I've been experiencing strange 
> app freezes. I don't mean that the phone completely freezes but rather the 
> screen becomes unresponsive and the only way to regain any activity is to 
> remove the app from the app switcher and relaunch. This has happened to me in 
> the native mail app and the Bard app.
>  
> Has anyone else seen this behavior? Any ideas for what to do about it? It's 
> not constant but occurs often enough to be annoying.
>  
> Thanks for your thoughts.
> 
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Re: braille screen input problems?

[Richard Turner]

I am writing with it now, and it is working fine, including announcing either 
ea or comma for dot Richard



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Phillips



🦅

On Sep 24, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Chris Chaffin 
mailto:chaffin102...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I use Braille Input on a regular basis in away mode and have not had any 
problems after updating to iOS 12.
Have you tried recalibrating the keyboard?

Chris


On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Dan 
mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com>> wrote:


HI,


I tried to use the braille screen input for the first time since installing IOS 
12.


It definitely has problems.  When touching the spot for dot 1 or dot 2 it 
always says "a".  I can't get it to announce comma at all.


It also seems that the spots on the screen are narrower now so it is harder to 
do accurate braille keyboarding.


I am using it in away mode on an Iphone six.


Anyone else having these issues?


Dan Beaver

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Re: braille screen input problems?

[Devin Prater]

Yes, mine works fine too.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am writing with it now, and it is working fine, including announcing either 
> ea or comma for dot Richard
> 
> 
> xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. 
> Utah Phillips
> 
> 
> 🦅
> 
> On Sep 24, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Chris Chaffin  > wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I use Braille Input on a regular basis in away mode and have not had any 
>> problems after updating to iOS 12.
>> Have you tried recalibrating the keyboard?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Dan > > wrote:
>> 
>>> HI,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I tried to use the braille screen input for the first time since installing 
>>> IOS 12.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It definitely has problems.  When touching the spot for dot 1 or dot 2 it 
>>> always says "a".  I can't get it to announce comma at all.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It also seems that the spots on the screen are narrower now so it is harder 
>>> to do accurate braille keyboarding.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am using it in away mode on an Iphone six.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone else having these issues?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Beaver
>>> 
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Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,


Have you turned Heavy Rotation off?

If not, this will transfer music you frequently listen to to the watch.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:25, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Good day. I bought a used Apple Watch Series 2 from a friend last
> week. One issue that has come up which I am trying to solve is
> deleting music. I am subscribed to Apple Music and have my phone set
> to download music when it is added to a playlist. However, no matter
> how many times I go to the watch app on my iPhone 8 Plus and toggle
> the switches off, when I then back out and go back to check, they have
> turned on again. The problem is that my watch is getting filled with
> music that I can't listen to without Bluetooth headphones. I have no
> interest in getting Bluetooth headphones. How can I tell the watch to
> stop downloading music and remove the music which has already been
> added? I went into music settings on the iPhone and told it to stop
> downloading newly added music, thinking that it would fix the problem,
> but music is still on there and the switches are still toggled on in
> the watch app. I would like to be able to add more watch apps, but I'm
> afraid the watch will fill up with music and leave no room for
> anything else.
> 
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Re: Problems with iPhone 7

[Tom Lange]

Hi Ana and all,
After several restarts, resetting all settings and generally fiddling about, 
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time to put this iPhone 7 to rest and 
upgrade to a new device. I’ve noticed several things that led me to this 
conclusion. The device has overheated on occasion, which caused the battery to 
swell slightly and, as a consequence, the left edge of the screen has separated 
ever so slightly from the chassis in the area extending from the mute switch 
down to at or just below the volume down switch. The screen has a very slight 
upward curve. And here’s the clincher. 3d touch only seems to work on the 
righthand side of the screen. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that doesn’t strike 
me as normal. So, methinks I see an appointmant at my local Apple or AT&T store 
this weekend. 

Just thought I’d give you all an update. Comments?

Tom


> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried restarting your phone?
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not sure 
>> if an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
>> First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer want 
>> and I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind of 
>> Actions list anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem to get 
>> 3d touch to work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on here? Any 
>> thoughts? 
>> 
>> Tom 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Victor Gouveia]

Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?


Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints 
and retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much 
anywhere you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.


Just something to consider.  Grins.

Victor 


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Re: braille screen input problems?

[Candy Lowe]

I am writing this message using braille screen input with no problem.  .  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 2:32 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> HI,
> 
> 
> 
> I tried to use the braille screen input for the first time since installing 
> IOS 12.
> 
> 
> 
> It definitely has problems.  When touching the spot for dot 1 or dot 2 it 
> always says "a".  I can't get it to announce comma at all.
> 
> 
> 
> It also seems that the spots on the screen are narrower now so it is harder 
> to do accurate braille keyboarding.
> 
> 
> 
> I am using it in away mode on an Iphone six.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone else having these issues?
> 
> 
> 
> Dan Beaver
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RE: IOS 12 observations

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have been using the power for time all along, so I'm good. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 12 observations

Mike, that was nice about being able to tap the home button for the time, but 
with this alternative way of doing it with tapping the power button is good 
too. Yup, apple just messed up our $400 to $1000 clocks, hahahahahaha, but I'm 
glad you found doing it with the power button. While it's a very minor thing, 
it's something we got so use to doing when checking on the time. As they say 
little things mean a lot. Thanks for letting us know.

Arlene

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Arrigo" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:22 AM
Subject: IOS 12 observations


> So far, IOS 12 seems to be working fine for me, I have only noticed one 
> thing that is annoying. When pressing the home button, the time is no 
> longer automatically spoken, I use this as a talking clock. It is spoken 
> when using the power button to wake the phone though, I guess I will just 
> use that for now. Other than that, have not noticed any issues.
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VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

['Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I was drying my hands with a towel, and inadvertently touched the Apple Watch 
series 3. I heard an announcement, VoiceOver turned off.

How did that happen? How can I get it back?

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Apple Watch side on series 4

[Mary Otten]

Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple Watch. I 
gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic feedback. I 
read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted reviewer said it 
was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it still worked because 
you can just touch in the general area and it works, or words to that effect. 
I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has the watch, and how you like 
the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, but they didn’t have any on 
display.
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Re: Problems with iPhone 7

[Andy Baracco]

Tom,

I wonder if this is a broad problem with the iPhone 7. You're the 4th or 5th 
person I know who has had some variant of this problem. In the other cases, 
a visit to the local Apple store resulted in the receipt of a replacement 
phone at no expense.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Lange" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with iPhone 7


Hi Ana and all,
After several restarts, resetting all settings and generally fiddling about, 
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time to put this iPhone 7 to rest and 
upgrade to a new device. I’ve noticed several things that led me to this 
conclusion. The device has overheated on occasion, which caused the battery 
to swell slightly and, as a consequence, the left edge of the screen has 
separated ever so slightly from the chassis in the area extending from the 
mute switch down to at or just below the volume down switch. The screen has 
a very slight upward curve. And here’s the clincher. 3d touch only seems to 
work on the righthand side of the screen. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that 
doesn’t strike me as normal. So, methinks I see an appointmant at my local 
Apple or AT&T store this weekend.


Just thought I’d give you all an update. Comments?

Tom



On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

Have you tried restarting your phone?

Best,
Anna





On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:

Hi,
I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not 
sure if an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer 
want and I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind 
of Actions list anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem 
to get 3d touch to work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on 
here? Any thoughts?


Tom

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Re: Problems with iPhone 7

[Julian]

Hi Tom,

I had the exact same issue with a swollen battery causing the separation on the 
left side of the screen. A trip to the Apple Store in Northridge resulted in a 
free replacement phone. You might want to give that option a try, if nothing 
else, you can always use that new phone as a trade-in for the newer model.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:10 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I wonder if this is a broad problem with the iPhone 7. You're the 4th or 5th 
> person I know who has had some variant of this problem. In the other cases, a 
> visit to the local Apple store resulted in the receipt of a replacement phone 
> at no expense.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Tom Lange" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Problems with iPhone 7
> 
> 
> Hi Ana and all,
> After several restarts, resetting all settings and generally fiddling about, 
> I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time to put this iPhone 7 to rest and 
> upgrade to a new device. I’ve noticed several things that led me to this 
> conclusion. The device has overheated on occasion, which caused the battery 
> to swell slightly and, as a consequence, the left edge of the screen has 
> separated ever so slightly from the chassis in the area extending from the 
> mute switch down to at or just below the volume down switch. The screen has a 
> very slight upward curve. And here’s the clincher. 3d touch only seems to 
> work on the righthand side of the screen. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that 
> doesn’t strike me as normal. So, methinks I see an appointmant at my local 
> Apple or AT&T store this weekend.
> 
> Just thought I’d give you all an update. Comments?
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Have you tried restarting your phone?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not 
>>> sure if an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
>>> First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer want 
>>> and I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind of 
>>> Actions list anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem to 
>>> get 3d touch to work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on here? 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Tom
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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Maria Reyes]

Face ID doesn't do retina scanning.

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Victor Gouveia
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Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?

Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints and 
retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much anywhere 
you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.

Just something to consider.  Grins.

Victor 

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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Mr. Ed]

Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry 
about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
Mr. Ed

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Victor Gouveia
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Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?

Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints 
and retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much 
anywhere you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.

Just something to consider.  Grins.

Victor 

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RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business Insider

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, then I'm good, as long as I get a cable and charger. Thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

Hi Carolyn,

No, you don't have to buy an extra cable or charger unless you want to plug 
your iPhone into an Apple laptop for charging and here it has to be one which 
came out in the last couple of years since they only have a USB-C port so you 
either need an adapter or a separate cable. You would also need said USB-C 
cable along with a USB-C type wall charger if you want to use Apple's fast 
charger technology, if you have those two items (that I think is where the $70 
comes from) then you apparently can charge one of the new iPhones from 0 to 50% 
in half an hour.
Apart from that all new iPhones still come with the familiar cable you already 
own with the Lightning plug on one end to plug into your phone and with a 
traditional USB-A type connector on the other end. This one can be plugged into 
any Windows laptop or desktop for charging or syncing and in a gazillion wall 
chargers which you can buy everywhere.
Of course if you are not buying a new phone for another year or two chances are 
by then that a USB-C cable will be standard with all iPhones.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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Arnold
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70? That 
being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable, charger, and 
connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for $11.99 for a three 
foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this, because I really want 
to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable? 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, 
Business Insider

My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that 
Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make another 
few Million in profits since people will of course buy them.
It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters 
are also happy.


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Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, Business 
Insider

Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare 
misfire By Matt Weinberger
 
Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display ports, 
and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple
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.   Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for
charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports.
.   USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as
USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any and 
all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat!
.   But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if
you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or other 
gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating!
.   Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously
when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You can't 
connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out for a new 
cable or adapter.
.   It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing
the details.
A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro to 
replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. 
To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a 
controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone to 
breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in 2018); 
some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine doesn't have 
one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports with the new, 
cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). 
Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the
2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and 
indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more than 
two USB-C 

Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Aleeha Dudley]

Hi, 
There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. It 
is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are looking for, 
you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if you have seen 
that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely tactile enough to 
find.
Aleeha 

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple Watch. 
> I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic feedback. 
> I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted reviewer said 
> it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it still worked 
> because you can just touch in the general area and it works, or words to that 
> effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has the watch, and how 
> you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, but they didn’t have 
> any on display.
> Mary
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Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Mary Otten]

OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods. I wasn’t 
up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones or I should 
say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. It 
> is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are looking 
> for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if you have 
> seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely tactile 
> enough to find.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple 
>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic 
>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted 
>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it 
>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works, or 
>> words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has the 
>> watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, but 
>> they didn’t have any on display.
>> Mary
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[lenron brown]

Ha nice way to say we don't need privacy unless we are doing something wrong.

On 9/24/18, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry
> about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
> Mr. Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of
> Them, (Smile)
>
> Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law
> enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?
>
> Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints
>
> and retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much
> anywhere you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.
>
> Just something to consider.  Grins.
>
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Re: Siri shortcuts not syncing over to my iPad mini two

[Michael Doise]

Hi, I do not believe that Siri shortcuts sync through iCloud. At least 
shortcuts in the Shortcuts app do not.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 2:18 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I had the idea that if I had some Siri shortcuts activated on my iPhone, they 
> would be activated also on my iPad, assuming that they were relevant. For 
> instance, I do have a shortcut for calling somebody on my phone. That doesn’t 
> seem relevant to the iPad, since it’s not a phone. However, I have another 
> shortcut that relates to mailing to somebody, and several for an app called 
> my radio tuner pro. The apps are installed and up to date on my iPad. Nothing 
> has come across. I know that short cuts are available in these apps, the mail 
> app and myTuner Pro. But nothing that I have made active on my phone by 
> giving a shortcut Siri activation word, none of those have come across. What 
> am I missing?
> Mary
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What can cause delays in texts being received?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, what are some reasons texts can be delayed being 
received? Does anyone have any ideas on this?


For instance, I have T-Mobile, and my iPhone 6S. I regularly text 
someone who uses T-Mobile. As well as someone who uses Metro PCS. Both 
of these people have Android phones.


I would think that rather or not you have an Android, or an iPhone, this 
shouldn't matter. But I don't really know.


What do you all think?

I text my friend with AT&T, around 11:00, last night. They received it 
at 4:30 this morning. Sense it was more of a random type of text, they 
were bothered that it came at that time of night. I knew I didn't text 
them at that time. But this isn't the first time this has happened.


Any thoughts are appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: What can cause delays in texts being received?

[Devin Prater]

I’ve seen this happen sometimes too, especially with Android phones. Maybe 
their model of phone is slower at receiving texts, or TMobile may have spent 
some time sending the message.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, what are some reasons texts can be delayed being 
> received? Does anyone have any ideas on this?
> 
> 
> For instance, I have T-Mobile, and my iPhone 6S. I regularly text 
> someone who uses T-Mobile. As well as someone who uses Metro PCS. Both 
> of these people have Android phones.
> 
> 
> I would think that rather or not you have an Android, or an iPhone, this 
> shouldn't matter. But I don't really know.
> 
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> I text my friend with AT&T, around 11:00, last night. They received it 
> at 4:30 this morning. Sense it was more of a random type of text, they 
> were bothered that it came at that time of night. I knew I didn't text 
> them at that time. But this isn't the first time this has happened.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Cristobal Muñoz]

This is the privacy trope companies and governments like to convince people 
with to give up the goods.
It's ultimately a specious argument though. A discussion that probably goes 
beyond the parameters of this list though...

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry 
about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?

Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints and 
retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much anywhere 
you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.

Just something to consider.  Grins.

Victor 

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Re: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Keith,

If you set up the accessibility shortcut, you can get VoiceOver back by 
pressing the digital crown 3 times quickly. If not, you can ask Siri to turn it 
on or open the Watch app on your phone, choose General, then Accessibility, 
then VoiceOver, and turn it on there.

Best,
Anna




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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Mary Otten]

Amen! In this day and age, if anybody believes that “if you were doing nothing 
wrong you have nothing to worry about,” they are just not reading the news. Get 
real!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> This is the privacy trope companies and governments like to convince people 
> with to give up the goods.
> It's ultimately a specious argument though. A discussion that probably goes 
> beyond the parameters of this list though...
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry 
> about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
> (Smile)
> 
> Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
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> 
> Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints 
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> 
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Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Devin Prater]

Well, thankfully, all your faceID stuff is stored on the device, no where else.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Amen! In this day and age, if anybody believes that “if you were doing 
> nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about,” they are just not reading the 
> news. Get real!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
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>> It's ultimately a specious argument though. A discussion that probably goes 
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>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry 
>> about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Victor Gouveia
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
>> enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?
>> 
>> Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints 
>> and retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much 
>> anywhere you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.
>> 
>> Just something to consider.  Grins.
>> 
>> Victor 
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RE: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When you use your iPhone, Are you dictating via the built-in microphone or do 
you use a headset?
Do you have a case on your iPhone?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jim 
Fettgather
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:48 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: Inaccurate Dictation, only in I-message

Hello, I am sure this has come up before, I have a Home Pod, other
iPads and iPhones associated with the same Apple ID, and they all do a
wonderful job with dictation in I-Message.
On the main iPhone 8 that I am using,  the dictation is 50% accurate,
completely unacceptable, on the Home Pod, it is nearly 100% accurate.
How the heck can I clear out whatever I-message is using, and start
fresh, it's the app that I use most frequently, and I would really
like to be able to count on its dictation capabilities.
Thanks for any suggestions.

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RE: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Where is this setting, I have never encountered it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

Hello,


Have you turned Heavy Rotation off?

If not, this will transfer music you frequently listen to to the watch.

Malcolm

Sent from my iPhone

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:25, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Good day. I bought a used Apple Watch Series 2 from a friend last
> week. One issue that has come up which I am trying to solve is
> deleting music. I am subscribed to Apple Music and have my phone set
> to download music when it is added to a playlist. However, no matter
> how many times I go to the watch app on my iPhone 8 Plus and toggle
> the switches off, when I then back out and go back to check, they have
> turned on again. The problem is that my watch is getting filled with
> music that I can't listen to without Bluetooth headphones. I have no
> interest in getting Bluetooth headphones. How can I tell the watch to
> stop downloading music and remove the music which has already been
> added? I went into music settings on the iPhone and told it to stop
> downloading newly added music, thinking that it would fix the problem,
> but music is still on there and the switches are still toggled on in
> the watch app. I would like to be able to add more watch apps, but I'm
> afraid the watch will fill up with music and leave no room for
> anything else.
> 
> Many thanks,
> Wayne
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RE: Problems with iPhone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would take this to an Apple Store since battery swelling might be covered 
beyond the regular warranty and if they ut a new battery into your iPhone 7 and 
make sure the screen is fine you end up with an iPhone 7 which probably is 
perfectly fine again and which will probably serve you well for another 2 years 
at least. It's of course up to you if you want a new phone, sometimes we all 
can be very good at pursuading ourselves we need something *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems with iPhone 7

Hi Ana and all,
After several restarts, resetting all settings and generally fiddling about, 
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time to put this iPhone 7 to rest and 
upgrade to a new device. I’ve noticed several things that led me to this 
conclusion. The device has overheated on occasion, which caused the battery to 
swell slightly and, as a consequence, the left edge of the screen has separated 
ever so slightly from the chassis in the area extending from the mute switch 
down to at or just below the volume down switch. The screen has a very slight 
upward curve. And here’s the clincher. 3d touch only seems to work on the 
righthand side of the screen. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that doesn’t strike 
me as normal. So, methinks I see an appointmant at my local Apple or AT&T store 
this weekend. 

Just thought I’d give you all an update. Comments?

Tom


> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried restarting your phone?
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not sure 
>> if an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
>> First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer want 
>> and I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind of 
>> Actions list anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem to get 
>> 3d touch to work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on here? Any 
>> thoughts? 
>> 
>> Tom 
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RE: Problems with iPhone 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And if you get a replacement then that is even better, it is probably a 
refurbished phone, but that's as good as new.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Problems with iPhone 7

I would take this to an Apple Store since battery swelling might be covered 
beyond the regular warranty and if they ut a new battery into your iPhone 7 and 
make sure the screen is fine you end up with an iPhone 7 which probably is 
perfectly fine again and which will probably serve you well for another 2 years 
at least. It's of course up to you if you want a new phone, sometimes we all 
can be very good at pursuading ourselves we need something *smile*.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problems with iPhone 7

Hi Ana and all,
After several restarts, resetting all settings and generally fiddling about, 
I’ve come to the conclusion that it’s time to put this iPhone 7 to rest and 
upgrade to a new device. I’ve noticed several things that led me to this 
conclusion. The device has overheated on occasion, which caused the battery to 
swell slightly and, as a consequence, the left edge of the screen has separated 
ever so slightly from the chassis in the area extending from the mute switch 
down to at or just below the volume down switch. The screen has a very slight 
upward curve. And here’s the clincher. 3d touch only seems to work on the 
righthand side of the screen. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that doesn’t strike 
me as normal. So, methinks I see an appointmant at my local Apple or AT&T store 
this weekend. 

Just thought I’d give you all an update. Comments?

Tom


> On Sep 21, 2018, at 9:14 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have you tried restarting your phone?
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2018, at 8:18 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> I’m currently having a couple of problems with my iPhone 7, and I’m not sure 
>> if an issue with IOS 12 or if something else has caused them.
>> First, I have some artists in my Apple Music Library that I no longer want 
>> and I can’t figure out how to delete them. I’m not seeing any kind of 
>> Actions list anymore. So I thought I’d try 3d touch, but I can’t seem to get 
>> 3d touch to work  anywhere on the device either. What’s going on here? Any 
>> thoughts? 
>> 
>> Tom 
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RE: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4 the 
digital crown does have haptic feedback.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods. I wasn’t 
up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones or I should 
say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. It 
> is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are looking 
> for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if you have 
> seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely tactile 
> enough to find.
> Aleeha 
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple 
>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic 
>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted 
>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it 
>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works, or 
>> words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has the 
>> watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, but 
>> they didn’t have any on display.
>> Mary
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Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Mary Otten]

I meant the side button. The guy was talking about how it was really hard to 
feel. Or not possible.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4 the 
> digital crown does have haptic feedback.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
> 
> OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods. I 
> wasn’t up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones or 
> I should say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. 
>> It is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are 
>> looking for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if 
>> you have seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely 
>> tactile enough to find.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple 
>>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic 
>>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted 
>>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it 
>>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works, 
>>> or words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has 
>>> the watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, 
>>> but they didn’t have any on display.
>>> Mary
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listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

[Casey]

Hi A friend and I open the messages pn the home screen.
And I go to compoz and then when the two field comes up O put in his contact 
information to message him.
Once I have done that I go do to record audio and then record my message.
Well he does the same thing to reply to me.
Now when listening to his messages they will play and then I will hear my phone 
say sorry there is something wrong with
the app.
Now I am running IOS 12 and he is not could this be why this is happening?
I have turned I messages off and back on again as well and that didn’t fix it.
So how can you correct this if at all?
 
 
 
 

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RE: What can cause delays in texts being received?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If they don't want to receive text messages during the night just tell them to 
turn on Do Not Disturb, I'm sure Android phones have such a feature.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Devin 
Prater
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What can cause delays in texts being received?

I’ve seen this happen sometimes too, especially with Android phones. Maybe 
their model of phone is slower at receiving texts, or TMobile may have spent 
some time sending the message.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, what are some reasons texts can be delayed being 
> received? Does anyone have any ideas on this?
> 
> 
> For instance, I have T-Mobile, and my iPhone 6S. I regularly text 
> someone who uses T-Mobile. As well as someone who uses Metro PCS. Both 
> of these people have Android phones.
> 
> 
> I would think that rather or not you have an Android, or an iPhone, this 
> shouldn't matter. But I don't really know.
> 
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> I text my friend with AT&T, around 11:00, last night. They received it 
> at 4:30 this morning. Sense it was more of a random type of text, they 
> were bothered that it came at that time of night. I knew I didn't text 
> them at that time. But this isn't the first time this has happened.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Best way is to send me your Apple Watch 3 with Voiceover turned off and I’ll 
send you my Apple Watch 2 with Voiceover turned on *smile*

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:43 PM
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver accidentally turned off on AppleWatch series 3

Hi Keith,

If you set up the accessibility shortcut, you can get VoiceOver back by 
pressing the digital crown 3 times quickly. If not, you can ask Siri to turn it 
on or open the Watch app on your phone, choose General, then Accessibility, 
then VoiceOver, and turn it on there.

Best,
Anna





On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:50 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I was drying my hands with a towel, and inadvertently touched the Apple Watch 
series 3. I heard an announcement, VoiceOver turned off.

How did that happen? How can I get it back?

Thanks, Keith

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RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, (Smile)

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I think Apple is the last company who will give such information to the 
government, they even refused to try and unlock the iPhone of that nutcase who 
shot all those people at the Christmas party a couple of years ago.
I think, by the way, that in such a situation privacy is null and void and I 
would have thought well of Apple had they helped.

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Prater
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 6:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of Them, 
(Smile)

Well, thankfully, all your faceID stuff is stored on the device, no where else.

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Amen! In this day and age, if anybody believes that “if you were doing 
> nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about,” they are just not reading the 
> news. Get real!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 5:36 PM, Cristobal Muñoz  wrote:
>> 
>> This is the privacy trope companies and governments like to convince people 
>> with to give up the goods.
>> It's ultimately a specious argument though. A discussion that probably goes 
>> beyond the parameters of this list though...
>> 
>> Cristóbal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:34 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Well if you are doing nothing wrong then you do not have anything to worry 
>> about but if you are doing something illegal then you should worry.
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Victor Gouveia
>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 5:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Another Great Face ID Failure Story, I Can't Get Enough of 
>> Them, (Smile)
>> 
>> Has anyone considered the possibility that Apple is partnering with law 
>> enforcement to snatch Face I.D. for their own ends, such as hunting people?
>> 
>> Not saying they actually do this, but I've long since believed fingerprints 
>> and retinal scans give the government the ability to find you pretty much 
>> anywhere you are and give them tabs on what you're doing.
>> 
>> Just something to consider.  Grins.
>> 
>> Victor 
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Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Sieghard,

You can find this setting and more if you go to the watch app on your phone and 
look under music.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Where is this setting, I have never encountered it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Have you turned Heavy Rotation off?
> 
> If not, this will transfer music you frequently listen to to the watch.
> 
> Malcolm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:25, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Good day. I bought a used Apple Watch Series 2 from a friend last
>> week. One issue that has come up which I am trying to solve is
>> deleting music. I am subscribed to Apple Music and have my phone set
>> to download music when it is added to a playlist. However, no matter
>> how many times I go to the watch app on my iPhone 8 Plus and toggle
>> the switches off, when I then back out and go back to check, they have
>> turned on again. The problem is that my watch is getting filled with
>> music that I can't listen to without Bluetooth headphones. I have no
>> interest in getting Bluetooth headphones. How can I tell the watch to
>> stop downloading music and remove the music which has already been
>> added? I went into music settings on the iPhone and told it to stop
>> downloading newly added music, thinking that it would fix the problem,
>> but music is still on there and the switches are still toggled on in
>> the watch app. I would like to be able to add more watch apps, but I'm
>> afraid the watch will fill up with music and leave no room for
>> anything else.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Wayne
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RE: Apple Watch side on series 4

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't know if they made it more flush on the 4, but on my Apple Watch 2 it is 
very easily felt, certainly no more difficult than feeling the power button on 
an iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4

I meant the side button. The guy was talking about how it was really hard to 
feel. Or not possible.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:37 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Do you mean the side button or the digital crown? On the Apple Watch 4 the 
> digital crown does have haptic feedback.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Watch side on series 4
> 
> OK, thanks. No, I have not seen AirPod Case. I do not own the AirPods. I 
> wasn’t up for spending that much money for a pair of Bluetooth headphones or 
> I should say earbuds. But I am thinking seriously about the watch.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Aleeha Dudley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> There’s no way the side button could be haptic, as it is the power button. 
>> It is flush with the side of the watch, but, if you know what you are 
>> looking for, you’ll find it, just like the button on the AirPods case, if 
>> you have seen that. I have felt the Series 4, and the button is definitely 
>> tactile enough to find.
>> Aleeha 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone i’m curious about the side button on the new Apple 
>>> Watch. I gather it’s not a mechanical button anymore, but provides haptic 
>>> feedback. I read that it is virtually flush with the watch. The sighted 
>>> reviewer said it was almost impossible to feel where the button was, but it 
>>> still worked because you can just touch in the general area and it works, 
>>> or words to that effect. I’m wondering if there’s anybody on list that has 
>>> the watch, and how you like the new button. We were at T-Mobile yesterday, 
>>> but they didn’t have any on display.
>>> Mary
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RE: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Makes no difference what version of iOS the two phones are on.
Have you rebooted your phone to see if that fixes the issue?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: listening to voice messages when you get them as an iMessage

Hi A friend and I open the messages pn the home screen.
And I go to compoz and then when the two field comes up O put in his contact 
information to message him.
Once I have done that I go do to record audio and then record my message.
Well he does the same thing to reply to me.
Now when listening to his messages they will play and then I will hear my phone 
say sorry there is something wrong with the app.
Now I am running IOS 12 and he is not could this be why this is happening?
I have turned I messages off and back on again as well and that didn’t fix it.
So how can you correct this if at all?




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RE: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks, I guess that shows how often I have looked  under Settings > Music on 
my watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2

Hi Sieghard,

You can find this setting and more if you go to the watch app on your phone and 
look under music.

Hope this helps,

Chris


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Where is this setting, I have never encountered it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Deleting music from Apple Watch Series 2
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> Have you turned Heavy Rotation off?
> 
> If not, this will transfer music you frequently listen to to the watch.
> 
> Malcolm
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 24 Sep 2018, at 19:25, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Good day. I bought a used Apple Watch Series 2 from a friend last
>> week. One issue that has come up which I am trying to solve is
>> deleting music. I am subscribed to Apple Music and have my phone set
>> to download music when it is added to a playlist. However, no matter
>> how many times I go to the watch app on my iPhone 8 Plus and toggle
>> the switches off, when I then back out and go back to check, they have
>> turned on again. The problem is that my watch is getting filled with
>> music that I can't listen to without Bluetooth headphones. I have no
>> interest in getting Bluetooth headphones. How can I tell the watch to
>> stop downloading music and remove the music which has already been
>> added? I went into music settings on the iPhone and told it to stop
>> downloading newly added music, thinking that it would fix the problem,
>> but music is still on there and the switches are still toggled on in
>> the watch app. I would like to be able to add more watch apps, but I'm
>> afraid the watch will fill up with music and leave no room for
>> anything else.
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Wayne
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Re: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

You can also get the book from Apple Books app
Harry

> On 24 Sep 2018, at 18:15, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> Yes, the book is from Audible, and Dan Harris, the narrator, reads the link. 
> You type what he says into your computer.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Anna,
>> OK, I’m really confused now. We’re talking about an audible book, right? So 
>> somebody is reading this book say on your phone. I just don’t know how to 
>> translate a phone audio only thing into links. Maybe there’s a PDF thing in 
>> my audible library.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> There is a link early in the book. it tells you that all the meditations 
>>> are in the appendix and gives you a link to unlock the content in the app. 
>>> Again, this is the book Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sep 23, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Anna,
 I did read that book on audible. I suppose the book came out before the 
 app. Where did you go to find a code?
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 23, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The Meditation Basics course is free, and if you get the book Meditation 
> for fidgety Skeptics from Audible, you get a code which makes its content 
> free. There are also free samples from a lot of the meditation courses. 
> There may be more, but that's what I know about.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Kimberly  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The subscription content is quite accessible. I subscribe not long after 
>> the app was discussed here on this list and have been working my way 
>> through the meditation basics ever since.
>> 
>> One thing I can tell you is that several of the meditations available in 
>> the app are also available on YouTube. 
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it 
>> that we go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 9:30 AM, Richard Petty 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for this. I have yet another beginners question about the 10% 
>>> Happier app.
>>> 
>>> I mistakenly subscribed to their additional content and then rescinded 
>>> that subscription through iTunes. It's a single annual purchase fee, 
>>> not weekly or monthly. I was just unwilling to commit to the roughly 
>>> $100 purchase before using the app for quite some time.
>>> 
>>> Is there enough standard content available without additional content 
>>> purchase that's useful enough that I should continue using the app? If 
>>> later on I do purchase the additional content subscription, is that  
>>> content VoiceOver accessible? (I found that for HeadSpace, subscription 
>>> content is not accessible.)
>>> 
>>> My exploration of the app still hasn't shown me there's much standard 
>>> content available. But, it's early in my exploration.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much.
>>> 
>>> Richard Petty
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 5:02 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List
>>> Subject: 10% Happier meditation app much more accessible than before
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> A few days ago, we were talking about meditation apps, and I mentioned 
>>> 10% Happier. They released an update today that fixes a lot of 
>>> accessibility issues. I haven't played with it long enough to know 
>>> whether everything is accessible, but it's definitely much easier to 
>>> see what courses are available, choose one, and choose a particular 
>>> meditation. I'm thrilled that the developers are taking accessibility 
>>> seriously.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
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Big Astreos update

[Yuma Decaux]

Hi everyone,

I hope y'all are having a good week.

Some of you may know this, but I've uploaded the latest Astreos version to test 
flight, with quite a lot of new features. i did want to squeeze some more 
features but this will happen in the next big one coming soon.

In the meantime, I wanted to share with you a little audio demo I recorded 
while I was out at the local comic shop.

Below is the link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvap6barzylhwzn/AllTogether2.mp3?dl=0 


Hope you guys enjoy it, and if you haven't subscribed to the beta list, please 
go below and leave me a message. I'm always very interested in hearing how you 
would like to see/touch the stars and all the other objects and events 
permeating our skies.

https://www.oseyeris.com/contacts 


A++

Yuma 

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