RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
happens to complete the request  the caller is making?

Any help would be appreciated. 

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RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Ari Moisio]

Hello

Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?



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Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
happens to complete the request  the caller is making?

Any help would be appreciated.




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Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Richard Turner]

How close to your head is the phone when you are trying to do this? 
If it is within about a foot or maybe 18 inches, the proximity sensor will kick 
in and you won't be able to use the screen.



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Jun 10, 2023, at 7:26 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  
> wrote:
> 
> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
> If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
> happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
> 
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Re: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors

[Richard Turner]

I'm glad they are including accessibility; but I will never spend that kind of money on a toy. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jun 9, 2023, at 10:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







OK, so Apple apparently is trying to make this accessible just as they are doing for all thei rother products. This is commendable, but we'll have to see what the reality will be like and what sort of uses this would even have for a blind
 person.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Vision Pro Headset and accessibility from Mac Rumors


 
 
As Sieghard pointed out, this extremely expensive toy will not be available until 2024. 

If you want to learn more about it, Mac Rumors has an article with links to the developer session spelling out the accessibility features.  
Here is that link, with other links to the WWDC session on that page.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/07/apple-vision-pro-accessibility-features/
 
HTH,
 
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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Christopher Chaltain]

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
 
 wrote:

 For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
 I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
 has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!

 --
 Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
 Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
 Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 Amen to that, Richard!

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
 to clean my house and do the cooking.




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On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
 over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
 come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what
 will come abwhen using vision pro.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
 Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

You are a funny man, my 

RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Are you saying that just hitting the number once is not enough?

I don't think I've double tapped. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

Hello

Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?



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  John J. Fioravanti, Jr. kirjoitti
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
> From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
> If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
> happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

I remember I was very unsure as to how we could use the iPhone but now I find 
it really good on the whole but 3500 is very expensive though.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 
 wrote:

 For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
 I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
 has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!

 --
 Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
 Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 Amen to that, Richard!

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
 to clean my house and do the cooking.




 Richard, USA.
 “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of 
 little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
 John Ruskin My web site:
 https://ww/
 w.turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfece0d78493547459b0e08db695efb6
 8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638219628907840550%7
 CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
 Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Cpi%2FHTNYBfUop4rpe1xr
 J0n%2BmN2utbMuNd9BBtkghic%3D&reserved=0



On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice 
 over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've 
 come to love on other apple products.  I am e

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

Same here, Dennis, would not be interested for $300 or even $30. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

I have zero interest in this headset 

Sent from my iPhone SE 3

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is a waste 
> of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that much money for this 
> stupid headset. I feel the same way about all the other stupid headsets. It’s 
> just dumb. The planet is on fire, and we are all worried about these stupid 
> headsets in virtual reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about 
> reality, not virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
> people will not appreciate that message.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, I 
>> wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone has the 
>> resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> Amen to that, Richard!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and to clean 
>> my house and do the cooking.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice over 
>> support, and all of the great accessibility features we've come to love on 
>> other apple products.  I am excited to see what will come abwhen using 
>> vision pro.
>> 
>> 
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> M. Taylor
>>   Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 7:30 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).
>> 
>>   Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.  It's a 
>> bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format has gotten a bit 
>> tiresome.
>> 
>>   I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have come up with 
>> a cure for cancer.
>> 
>>   And you know what?  Several of the app features they present as ground 
>> breaking can already be done on Android.
>> 
>>   Not that I am bitter but I think the reason list traffic is slow, this 
>> year, is because there was nothing truly exciting, at least, not from my 
>> perspective.  I have yet to watch the Vision Pro presentation but with a 
>> price tag at over $3000, it might as well not exist.
>> 
>>   Wow, I do sound a bit bitter, eh?  (smile).
>> 
>>   Mark
>> 
>> 
>>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>   Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 10:44 PM
>>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>   Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>> 
>>   I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this 
>> evening so far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing 
>> what was said tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.
>>   I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case 
>> about iOS 17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses 
>> so he can place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality 
>> headset which Apple apparently announced for early 2024 😂
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RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Carolyn Arnold]

To get the keypad to show:

1. Open Phone.
2. Go to App Switcher.
3. Double tap. 
4. Your keyboard will appear. 

Problem?: That takes a little bit of time to get there. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
happens to complete the request  the caller is making?

Any help would be appreciated. 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Carolyn Arnold]

>From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets like 
>crazy, but for me, not happening. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend money 
on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't tend to 
project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products on others. 
There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money others are 
spending on something.

It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and 
battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but isn't 
that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what was said 
about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has changed the lives 
of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price has really come down 
much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the 
good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
introduced.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
 
 wrote:

 For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
 I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
 has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!

 --
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 Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of Carolyn Arnold
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 Amen to that, Richard!

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and 
 to clean my house and do the cooking.




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On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice 
 over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've 
 come to love on other apple products.

RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Carolyn Arnold]

You have to double tap on the numbers you hit for the extension you need. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

Are you saying that just hitting the number once is not enough?

I don't think I've double tapped. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
Moisio
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

Hello

Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?



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> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
> From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> 
> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
> If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
> happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
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Emoji's

[Carolyn Arnold]

This morning, I typed a text on my screen, brought up
emoji's, but never could get one on the message. 

So, what, exactly to I do to accomplish this? 

Thanks. 

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Re: Openscape for iOS?

[Lyne]

Could you share the tweet? I heard about that but I asked the Team for 
Soundscape and it's not them... Strange no?

Lyne

> Le 10 juin 2023 à 01:53, li...@damorris.com a écrit :
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I had a link in twitter that opened to a page telling you about Openscape and 
> asking to install test flight and then install.
> I did this, but when I went looking for a link it said app wasn’t available 
> in my country.
> TIA.
>  
> I know this is wrong since I have it
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Re: Openscape for iOS?

[Tai Tomasi]

How do I get that app?Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:53 PM, li...@damorris.com wrote:Hi all,I had a link in twitter that opened to a page telling you about Openscape and asking to install test flight and then install.I did this, but when I went looking for a link it said app wasn’t available in my country.TIA. I know this is wrong since I have it 



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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alban 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Sieghard 
Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:05:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Joshua, I think you are under some sort of misconception here. This is not a 
headset which plays back audio or maybe it also does this although I have a 
feeling it does not because I seem to remember them talking about using it 
together with Airpods or something like that. This is capable of generating a 
virtual reality environment as the name implies and that is why I earlier 
commented regarding its accessibility features that it may not be so easy to 
make this fully accessible as it has an extreme visual focus.

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Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 8:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I have 
bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all, bose nc700, 
sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.  And ones from 
AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd never pay $3500 for 
any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay 
that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.  Next, is the battery 
life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.  That is way to few 
hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.  You might watch one full 
movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro 
max.

On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>
> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
>>> a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
>>> much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
>>> the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
>>> and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
>>> reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
>>> virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people will 
>>> not appreciate that message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
 
 wrote:

 For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
 I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
 has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to them!

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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
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 Amen to that, Richard!

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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
 to clean my house and do the cooking.




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On Jun 9, 2023, at 1:46 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:



I am excited about the apple vision pro.  It'll have voice
 over support, and all of the great accessibility features we've
 come to love on other apple products.  I am excited to see what
 will come abwhen using vision pro.


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You are a funny man, my friend (big smile).

Actually, I am only halfway through the presentation, as yet.
 It's a bit long and, to be honest, the keynote presentation format
 has gotten a bit tiresome.

I mean, Apple announces new stickers as though they have
 come up with a cure for cancer.

And you know what?  Several 

RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the keypad is not showing you have to tap the button to show it. You will 
find buttons for things like Mute, Add Call and so on and one button will say 
"Keypad". Same applies if you are on a call and the keypad shows, but you want 
it to go away because maybe you want one of these buttons to mute a call or add 
another caller to a 3-way call. You have to go to the very bottom right of the 
keypad past the pound key (you can do this by tapping the bottom half of the 
screen with 4 fingers) and you find a button called "Hide", this will hide the 
keypad and reveal the other buttons.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
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Any help would be appreciated. 

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Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Lyne]

Hello, 
You have to go settings, phone and call reception or something like that an 
chose full screen.
Sorry for my English... Hope it's clear 

Lyne

> Le 10 juin 2023 à 13:44, Sieghard Weitzel  a écrit :
> 
> If the keypad is not showing you have to tap the button to show it. You will 
> find buttons for things like Mute, Add Call and so on and one button will say 
> "Keypad". Same applies if you are on a call and the keypad shows, but you 
> want it to go away because maybe you want one of these buttons to mute a call 
> or add another caller to a 3-way call. You have to go to the very bottom 
> right of the keypad past the pound key (you can do this by tapping the bottom 
> half of the screen with 4 fingers) and you find a button called "Hide", this 
> will hide the keypad and reveal the other buttons.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
> J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:26 AM
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> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not showing. 
> If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, still nothing 
> happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated. 
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Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[William James]

It depends on how you have typing set up.  I have mine set to touch typing.  
This means when I find a letter or number, I lift my finger and the symbol is 
entered.  If you have typing set to standard, you have to double-tap the symbol.

I would make sure the phone is set to full screen.  This should eleviate your 
issue.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You have to double tap on the numbers you hit for the extension you need.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
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> 
> Are you saying that just hitting the number once is not enough?
> 
> I don't think I've double tapped.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
> Moisio
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Hello
> 
> Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?
> 
> 
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>  John J. Fioravanti, Jr. kirjoitti
>> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
>> From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
>> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
>> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not 
>> showing. If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, 
>> still nothing happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Openscape for iOS?

[Lyne]

Here is the Tweeter link but they seem to get enough people to test.

Lyne

> Le 10 juin 2023 à 13:29, Tai Tomasi  a écrit :
> 
> How do I get that app?
> 
> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
> Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:53 PM, li...@damorris.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I had a link in twitter that opened to a page telling you about Openscape 
>> and asking to install test flight and then install.
>> I did this, but when I went looking for a link it said app wasn’t available 
>> in my country.
>> TIA.
>>  
>> I know this is wrong since I have it
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Re: Openscape for iOS?

[Lyne]

Sorry, here is the link

https://twitter.com/blind_iphone/status/1667358091581485057?s=46&t=-qj3sf672nzKYkFRQ7uKUw

Lyne

> Le 10 juin 2023 à 13:29, Tai Tomasi  a écrit :
> 
> How do I get that app?
> 
> Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
> Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:53 PM, li...@damorris.com wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I had a link in twitter that opened to a page telling you about Openscape 
>> and asking to install test flight and then install.
>> I did this, but when I went looking for a link it said app wasn’t available 
>> in my country.
>> TIA.
>>  
>> I know this is wrong since I have it
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Ever since it became possible to do so, I mapped the two finger swiped left and right gestures to turn the rotor left and right and it works beautifully for me and several of my clients. Re: Just a Q

[Julian]

Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2023, at 4:22 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Another way to think about it is that you just need to place two fingers on the screen with some space between them and have them move in opposite but parallel directions. You don’t need to actually rotate the screen. For example, you could
 place your pointer and ring fingers on the screen just a bit apart and then slide your pointer finger down while sliding your ring finger up. I’m not saying this particular example will work for everyone, and I don’t use it myself, but maybe knowing that you
 don’t actually need a circular rotating motion will help some people with this gesture.
 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


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On Behalf Of Paula Jordan
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 3:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark


 
Interesting to hear how different people work the roter. I find it easiest to hold my thumb and pointer finger a couple of inches apart more or less in the mi.le of the phone and then turn the phone holding my two fingers in place.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
 


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Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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We sure do. I normally do the router gesture by using my thumb and middle fingers. Been doing that for many years now.

 


On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:

 

Wow.  That's pretty good as well. I guess we all have our own ways of doing things. Take care. Esther


 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!


 

On Jun 6, 2023, at 9:27 PM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:








That is interesting.  I do the roder gesture like this:  I hold the phone vertically using my thumbs and middle and ring fingers of both hands and then I swipe my two index
 fingers across the screen together to the right or left.  It seems pretty easy to me.  


 



 

On Jun 6, 2023, at 6:46 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:




Hi, everyone,


 


The trick to the rotor is to have your thumb and index finger spread quite a bit apart.  At least, this works for me, and hope it works for all of you as well.  As I said,
 my index finger and thumb are spread apart and I find that I can turn the rotor very easily.


 


Esther

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On May 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:







You are quite right, Traci.


 


I am not a huge fan of the rotor.  I find it rather cumbersome.    I am not a huge fan and yet I cannot come up with a better idea.  Sometimes, I wish I had an engineering mind.  (smile).


 


Mark


 


 


 




From: viphone@googlegroups.com On
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark




 


Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m talking about is for iOs. :)



 




Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:

A VoiceOver gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the composed message. Instead of locating the send button.

A VoiceOver gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by letter. A simple shortcut
 would be super useful.

Those are two little things off the top of my head. :)

Take care,
Traci










On May 31, 2023, at 8:08 AM, pegkan...@gmail.com wrote:



 





Hi Mark,




I am Peggy from New Jersey. I have a question is it possible for you to check and see if I am subscribed twice to this list?? I have received the same message twice so just wondering if I have a double subscription??




 Take care of yourself.




Peggy Kane. 




 




Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️










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Hello Everyone,

Seems as though it's been quite a while since I posted to the list so just
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devices.

I am looking forward to the WWDC 2023 keynote presentation, next week.

You know?  The only software feature that I really want added to the OS is
the ability to permanently save and organize iMessage content into folders.


Are there any features, accessibility-related or not, that you would like to
see introduced next week?

I hope everyone is doing well and I look forward to reading your replies.

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RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh, I have to do the double tap. I feel more secure with that. 

I just can't figure out how to get emoji's on a text message. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad

It depends on how you have typing set up.  I have mine set to touch typing.  
This means when I find a letter or number, I lift my finger and the symbol is 
entered.  If you have typing set to standard, you have to double-tap the symbol.

I would make sure the phone is set to full screen.  This should eleviate your 
issue.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Jun 10, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You have to double tap on the numbers you hit for the extension you need.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Are you saying that just hitting the number once is not enough?
> 
> I don't think I've double tapped.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ari 
> Moisio
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
> 
> Hello
> 
> Have you doubletapped after finding the number key?
> 
> 
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>  John J. Fioravanti, Jr. kirjoitti
>> Subject: RE: Question about calls, when you can't get access to the keypad
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2023 17:26:10
>> From: "John J. Fioravanti, Jr." 
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> 
>> Most of the time, when I make a call and am asked to push a number for an 
>> extension, the iPhone works fine; however, in a few instances, the caller 
>> requests me to push a number and I can't get to the keypad, it's not 
>> showing. If I go to the phone and get to the keypad and press a number, 
>> still nothing happens to complete the request  the caller is making?
>> 
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPhone 12 does not send SMS via physical Sim

[Kelly Pierce]

iPhones are notorious for not recognizing a new SIM card from a
different carrier or doing it partially. I solved this problem by
factory resetting my iPhone. When it restarted, it worked as it
normally should.  The bummer here is in restoring data.  Music is not
saved to iCloud so it will be necessary to connect the iPhone to a
computer for an iTunes synch.

Kelly




On 6/9/23, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> Hi, group.
> I have iPhone 12 that has E-SIM in it.
> I am in Pakistan now where I am using the physical Sim from a local
> provider. My main Sim is from Canadian provider.
> I have disabled E-SIM and using the physical Sim for all the calls. I,
> however, am unable to send the SMS  by none of these Sims.
> I prefer sending the SMS with the physical Sim rather than the main SIM.
> What should I do in order to send the SMS with the physical Sim, please?
> Your help is much appreciated.
> Thanks!
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RE: iPhone 12 does not send SMS via physical Sim

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is interesting because I have been to the Philippines many times ever 
since I had an iPhone 4S and I have always had local SIM cards from various 
providers there and I have also been to Germany and the US where I had local 
SIM cards and I never even once had an issue with any of my various iPhone 
models not recognizing a SIM. I do usually turn the phone off, insert the new 
SIM and then turn it on, but that has never failed me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 12 does not send SMS via physical Sim

iPhones are notorious for not recognizing a new SIM card from a different 
carrier or doing it partially. I solved this problem by factory resetting my 
iPhone. When it restarted, it worked as it normally should.  The bummer here is 
in restoring data.  Music is not saved to iCloud so it will be necessary to 
connect the iPhone to a computer for an iTunes synch.

Kelly




On 6/9/23, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:
> Hi, group.
> I have iPhone 12 that has E-SIM in it.
> I am in Pakistan now where I am using the physical Sim from a local 
> provider. My main Sim is from Canadian provider.
> I have disabled E-SIM and using the physical Sim for all the calls. I, 
> however, am unable to send the SMS  by none of these Sims.
> I prefer sending the SMS with the physical Sim rather than the main SIM.
> What should I do in order to send the SMS with the physical Sim, please?
> Your help is much appreciated.
> Thanks!
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Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[lenron brown]

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash
about the IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price
will come down over time and this will be refined into one badass
device. I plan on buying one of these and holding on to it as a
collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 10 years. I personally
am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those headsets
> like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never spend
> money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. I just don't
> tend to project my financial circumstances and interest in certain products
> on others. There's simply too much for me to worry about than how much money
> others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, weight and
> battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit the blind, but
> isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still remember a lot of what
> was said about the iPhone when it first came out, and look how it has
> changed the lives of everyone, including the blind. I don't think the price
> has really come down much though, and of course some may claim it hasn't
> changed our lives for the good, but it definitely isn't the product everyone
> thought it was when it was introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the cost, I
> have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have them all,
> bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  I'd
> never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  Now, if I did
> have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  I'll
> stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is
 a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that
 much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all
 the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire,
 and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual
 reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not
 virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some people
 will not appreciate that message.


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain
> 
> wrote:
>
> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now,
> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone
> has the resources and the interest then I say great and more power to
> them!
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> Amen to that, Richard!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> For $3500 I would expect the vision Pro headset to be amazing and
> to clean my house and do the cooking.
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of
> little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~
> John Ruskin My web site:
> https://ww/
> w.turner42.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7C%7Cfece0d78493547459b0

Re: Emoji's

[Bill Gallik]

Well Ms. Arnold; I have to ask, exactly what did you do to place an Emoji into 
your text?

I assume you were in the “Message area” of the text when you tried to include 
an Emoji.  And, of course, you activated the “Emoji button.”

At that point, you would select the Emoji(s) you wanted to include in your 
message and double tap each one as it was selected.  You should have found said 
Emojis were included in you text.

BTW: Emojis can be included in any of the “text edit fields” one might 
encounter on an iPhone.  I use them quite liberally in Notes, Mail (😇) and 
other apps that deploy the on-screen keyboard.


- Bill from Bayfield County, Wisconsin
- "A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight,"
- "and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world."
- Oscar Wilde


> On Jun 10, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This morning, I typed a text on my screen, brought up
> emoji's, but never could get one on the message. 
> 
> So, what, exactly to I do to accomplish this? 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't. 
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
 a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
 much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
 the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
 and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
 reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
 virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
 people will not appreciate that message.


 Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 9, 2023, at 4:18 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> 
> wrote:
>
> For my part, unless there's more to it than I'm seeing right now, 
> I wouldn't shell out this much dough for this headset. If someone 
> has the resources and the interest then I say great

RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And just to add this, if you buy one of these first VR headsets for $3,500 they 
may also very well be worth $100 in 15 years.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 11:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

Buying one as an investment might not be a bad idea, just make sure you never 
even crack the seal of the box. Considering a few original iPhones in that 
condition sold for between $40,000 and $65,000 after what, 16 years or so, not 
bad.
The original iPhone cost $499 or $599 back in 2007 depending on configuration, 
so even if you paid $599 and you sold it for about $40,000 after 16 years that 
would mean an interest rate of 30% compounded annually.
Of course nobody could have predicted that and I just read that if you had 
bought $3,000 worth of Apple stock in January of 2007 when Steve Jobs announced 
the iPhone, that would be worth over $139,000 today, also a pretty good 
investment and at a little over 27% interest compounded annually not far behind 
what you could have made if you still had an unopened original iPhone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?

lmao this is only the first gen relax. People talked the same trash about the 
IPhone and now they sell like hotcakes. I am sure the price will come down over 
time and this will be refined into one badass device. I plan on buying one of 
these and holding on to it as a collectors item. Who knows what it will be in 
10 years. I personally am hoping for a dive pod to really get full emersion.

On 6/10/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From one having a few Apple shares, I hope that people buy those 
> headsets like crazy, but for me, not happening.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> There are a lot of things people spend money on that I would never 
> spend money on, and I'm sure I spend money on things others wouldn't.
> I just don't tend to project my financial circumstances and interest 
> in certain products on others. There's simply too much for me to worry 
> about than how much money others are spending on something.
>
> It does seem like the Vision Pro has some challenges, like cost, 
> weight and battery life, and it isn't clear now how it would benefit 
> the blind, but isn't that true of a lot of new technology? I still 
> remember a lot of what was said about the iPhone when it first came 
> out, and look how it has changed the lives of everyone, including the 
> blind. I don't think the price has really come down much though, and 
> of course some may claim it hasn't changed our lives for the good, but 
> it definitely isn't the product everyone thought it was when it was 
> introduced.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, June 9, 2023 10:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What is happen to the Viphone list?
>
> My problems with the vision pro headset are 2 things.  First, the 
> cost, I have bought way to many bluetooth headsets in my life.  I have 
> them all, bose nc700, sony xm5, and apple airpod max to name a few of the big 
> ones.
> And ones from AKG, Anker, and JBL to name some of the smaller ones.  
> I'd never pay $3500 for any headset, I don't care how good it is.  
> Now, if I did have $3500, I'd pay that in a second for a beautiful hd28 
> martin guitar.
> Next, is the battery life.  The vision pro only has 2 hours of battery life.
>  That is way to few hours to even watch a long movie, or do a whole lot.
> You might watch one full movie with the headset on, but nothing else.  
> I'll stick with my iPhone 13 pro max.
>
> On 6/9/23, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> ditto. just more of the same kind of thing out there to steal your money.
>>
>> On 6/9/2023 10:51 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> I have zero interest in this headset
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone SE 3
>>>
 On Jun 9, 2023, at 10:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

 I couldn’t agree more. I think this whole virtual reality thing is 
 a waste of bloody time. And there’s no way I would ever pay that 
 much money for this stupid headset. I feel the same way about all 
 the other stupid headsets. It’s just dumb. The planet is on fire, 
 and we are all worried about these stupid headsets in virtual 
 reality. We ought to spend more time worrying about reality, not 
 virtual reality, what’s actually happening. Sorry I’m sure some 
 people will not appreciate that