RE: bible ap from life church verssion 5.4

[Amy Billman]

Hi.
There's no way to make it show up the wayit did before, as they have changed 
the app. This however isn't an accessibility issue.
When you click on it there's a labeled button that says read, which will enable 
you to read it as you did before.
I just did this, today in fact, on my iPhone 6 using latest release of the app 
and iOS 8.
HTh.



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lsterling0
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: bible ap from life church verssion 5.4

Hi, I have the same problem.

Louana

 

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Billy Maynard
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: bible ap from life church verssion 5.4

hi,

I just downloaded he bible ap from life church onto my 6+ phone.  on the home 
screen where verses of the day are  all it now gives me is the  book, chapter 
and verse of the  verse of the day.  I had the previous verssion on my 4S.  Is 
there a setting that could read the verse of hte day like it did inthe previous 
 verssion?  To read it now I have to shair it  do sms and it'll read it then 
like I was shairing it but, not inthe  verse of the day 
view like before.   I'd like to have it  like before.  If this isn't 
anything I can controle I might have to email the ap developer.  I would just 
like to make sure it's not just  me before I do.

Thanks,
Billy Maynard 

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RE: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye

[Amy Billman]

As a business owner that markets products to the blind iPhone using
community, I am glad for as many resources as possible to recommend to
customers.
Buy the book if you like; if you don't, don't. It's really that simple.
I'm of the mind that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm both
amazed and rather ashamed to be in the blind community with how it seems to
react and spread negativity around like poison in the online world, just
because someone wrote a book and is profiting.
I didn't see the same responses when National Braille Press came out with
their various iPhone books. This is no different really.
Maybe folks did react in a similar manner to that as well, but I don't
recall having seen that.
How really, is this different from the tons of technology ebooks out there
that people self publish and put up on Kindle or smashwords?
Thanks to the internet, anyone can be an author; and anyone can sell their
books and publish with ease.
Is it because this person happens to be in our community?
You know, I believe that we are probably the only community in the
disability world that seems to feel like it should get everything for free.
This applies to books, or even software; which people spend many hours
working on. The very idea that they should be paid for their time and
resources. *gasps*
 
I guess I just don't see why this has to come with ranting and discussion.
Furthermore, what Jonathan did is simple business marketing. If nobody had
purchased the prior book/s, he wouldn't have written this one.
As people did, logic would dictate that there is or could be a need;
therefore, the book for iOS 8 was/is being written.
People learn very differently. Because so many are still using seriously
outdated phones, the iPhone can be a huge learning curve.
Hel, I can say first hand that when I got my 3GS what seems eons ago, even I
benefited from and was glad to have written guides and tutorials.
Not everyone has the luxury or wants to go to an A T trainer to learn how to
use their new iPhone; while some do.
Fact is, for lots the iPhone isn't as intuitive as it might seem for others.
Not everyone is willing or able to play with something to figure it out.
Just like there are those who move to a new area and require an O&M trainer
to learn how to get to the store and the like, rather than being willing to
explore on their own and get lost in order to learn.
Personally, while I won't be buying the book, (because I prefer to get used
to the changes by using my phone on a daily basis,) I will continue to
recommend it to customers who come to me in search of resources to help them
to use their new iPhone.
I have been at conventions and witnessed first hand the frustration of
people who have had their phones for six months and cannot figure out how to
use it and don't know where to turn. This is especially true as many seniors
are now going into the iPhone world.
It seems like what this comes down to is a matter of disliking someone.
That's all well and good if that's how you feel, but then, just don't
purchase.
Did I really just see the word parasite in an earlier message?
Do we really need to attack both the trolls that flame and the person who's
trying to provide the service?
 
Peace,
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye
 
Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping
right now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an
unpleasant feeling it is to wake up to a list that's gone off the rails. So
in an attempt to prevent that from happening, I thought I would add a few
comments. It's not my intension to respond to personal attacks, however
there are some substantive issues that may be helpful.
First, my book, "iOS 8 Without the Eye" is by no means the only game in town
for getting information about iOS 8 when it comes out. An excellent free
source of information will be Applevis, a site of which I am a huge fan. You
can be sure that free resources from there will include blog posts and
podcasts. There are sure to be other places as well.
I wrote iOS 7 Without the Eye last year because I got feedback that there
was a need for it. As some of you may know, I've produced literally hundreds
of hours at least of audio tutorials on a wide range of subjects, a few of
which are in fact on Applevis. I also continue to get very kind feedback
about the FSCasts I have done over the years on iTunes. Many people like to
be talked through an application or operating system, hearing what the
speech is doing. People who learn best this way are big fans of podcasts, if
they&

RE: Kindle Unlimited

[Amy Billman]

Agreed, Donna.
I had hoped they’d do that like Audible does. Even if they went to like their 
credits system or something where as you say, you’re actually buying the books, 
so that if you do cancel, you can reread them later.
In most cases, if I am paying for a book even in a circumstance like this, if 
it’s good enough I will want to reread in future.
 
And, of course some stuff like cookbooks (which that’s a lot of my Kindle 
content lately,) I’m hardly going to want to rent those. *smile* What’s the 
point?
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Donna
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle Unlimited
 
Yes, I've heard about this service as well. $10 isn't to expensive in my 
opinion, to be able to read 10 books a month, that's $1 per book. The "rent" a 
book is the downfall to the service for me. I had much rather pay a monthly 
membership fee, get a big discount on an unlimited number of books. This way 
the book is mine to reread if I discontinue my monthly service. 
 
Just my opinion. 
 
Donna

On Jul 18, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
They use misleading jargon to sell the poduct, of course. :) Having said that, 
I don't even read ten books a month.
 
Teresa

"We're made of star stuff."--Carl Sagan

On Jul 18, 2014, at 10:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
I’m not saying it’s not a good deal, but 10 titles a months is hardly 
unlimited. I wonder why companies use such misleading jargon.
 
Regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Kindle Unlimited
 
It's real and is official as of today.  It's $9.99 and covers over 600,00 books 
plus a ton of audio titles; the iOS app will work with it although I've not had 
time to do any research on this.  According to what I've read on the I Love my 
Kindle blog, you can rent up to 10 titles a month.




David Goldfield,
 
 Founder and Peer Coordinator,
Philadelphia Computer Users' Group for the Blind and Visually Impaired
 
Feel free to visit my new Web site
http://www.DavidGoldfield.info/
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:
Hi,
 
I don’t know the details, but I’ve heard Amazon is coming out with what they 
call Kindle Unlimited, “Unlimited reading, Unlimited listening” on any device 
for $9.99 per month.
 
This could be huge if real.
 
Keith
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RE: apple tv

[Amy Billman]

Well, I suppose anything's possible. I guess we will see! *grins*
And, if it's different enough to justify the purchase people will do it;
myself included.
It does seem like with the prior voiceover accessible apple TV's that there
hasn't been anything that they couldn't do exactly the same with the OS
changes. This, from my perspective anyway as we've got two different
generations of boxes in the house.
As I said, anything's possible though.
I do know that people really want it to be a set top box, though I'm unsure
of why they'd make that feature an option because then people would have no
need to plunk down a ton of money for season passes on iTunes, or to
purchase other TV shows or movies from there.
Regardless, it will be interesting to see what the next Apple TV ends up
being.

Amy Billman
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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple tv

Hi Amy,

The latest generation of Apple TV supports 1280P which is true HD.
I believe when a new model does come out that it will offer significant
changes, for one there is talk that it will have SIRI for voice control and
possibly it may have motion control. I also think it will have an upgraded
processor and fully support apps, e.g. it will have its own app store. There
is also talk that Apple is negotiating with major cable networks and that
the new Apple TV will be a full and complete replacement of current cable
set top boxes except better.
In any case, I doubt it will be more of the same and just some new box with
basically no new features. I also think that Apple at some point will still
surprise everybody with what they believe the living room experience should
be.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Amy Billman
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple tv

Patti,
The only way I know to find out when the new apple TV models are out or
coming, is to follow the sites like macRumors and the like. Basically, all
the apple related blogs. If you have twitter, it's pretty easy but of course
you can just go there. :-)

As best as I can see from what's been going around, the only thing that
those of us with prior generations of apple TV's won't be able to do, is
play content in HD. You can still play content that is HD only, it will just
look different on screen for folks who can see.
And, you'll get the new oS updates just like normal to the generation of
Apple TV that you have.

We have two; and I can't see the need to purchase newer models when it's
basically the same box; though I would if for some reason there was going to
be real changes to my current viewing experience that made it necessary.
That's me though.


Amy Billman
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv

How will we know when they bring out a new apple tv?  What does that mean
for the models we already have, just an update?
I was going to get another one, I guess I'll wait then.
Patti

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RE: apple tv

[Amy Billman]

Patti,
The only way I know to find out when the new apple TV models are out or
coming, is to follow the sites like macRumors and the like. Basically, all
the apple related blogs. If you have twitter, it's pretty easy but of course
you can just go there. :-)

As best as I can see from what's been going around, the only thing that
those of us with prior generations of apple TV's won't be able to do, is
play content in HD. You can still play content that is HD only, it will just
look different on screen for folks who can see.
And, you'll get the new oS updates just like normal to the generation of
Apple TV that you have.

We have two; and I can't see the need to purchase newer models when it's
basically the same box; though I would if for some reason there was going to
be real changes to my current viewing experience that made it necessary.
That's me though.


Amy Billman
Email:
 amy0...@gmail.com
Connect with me on LinkedIn:
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Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: apple tv

How will we know when they bring out a new apple tv?  What does that 
mean for the models we already have, just an update?
I was going to get another one, I guess I'll wait then.
Patti

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RE: How easy is the app to use? was RE: KNFB Reader App

[Amy Billman]

Hi.
Of course the one for iOS is not out yet, but I personally found the old
KNFB reader a bit better at OCR than the OCR products for iOS that exist
currently.
For instance, when we had it my partner and I used it to OCR and read the
menu that's up on the board at Mcdonalds. That's not been doable with stuff
like Prismo or Text Detective; at least it hasn't been possible for either
of us.
Another thing that we used to do with it back in the day, was use it to
quickly scan envelopes while standing at the mailbox. This was handy at the
time because like a sighted person would do, we could weed out the trash and
only take home what was important.
Now, if I want to scan the mail, using an OCR solution for the pc ends up
being the better deal. It would be nice to have a more reliable option.
The demos that I've listened to seem to indicate that the iOS app is going
to be equal to if not better than the old KNFB reader mobile solution.
All I can say, is I sure as hell hope so! This would make it well worth the
price imho.
If I can do all of those things efficiently like before, it would be very
handy. This is not to say that the current apps for iOS are bad, they're
just rather limiting by comparison, IMO.
 
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Minor
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How easy is the app to use? was RE: KNFB Reader App
 
Hi.
 
I have a question about this app, and more specificly how it worked on other
devices in the past.  I've heard it compared to other mainstream OCR apps on
the iPhone.  I'd like to hear from KNFB users who have used this app on
other devices.  How easy was it to use on these devices, and if you've used
other OCR apps on an iPhone, how does it compare with these apps?  I think
this will give us a more accurate idea about how easy the app will be to
use.
 
As for the cost of the app, in my opinion, I wouldn't have a problem paying
for it if it works as well as people say.  Only problem I may have is I
suspect the app won't work on an iPhone 4, so I'll have to save up for an
iPhone 6 to use it.  At least that's what I think the most logical thing to
do.
 
Have a good day, and don't work too hard.
GO REDS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmino...@outlook.com
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RE: There's An App For That, hungry today?

[Amy Billman]

Thank you, and very well said, Kyle!
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kyle
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: There's An App For That, hungry today?
 
Fred, why can't you just delete the messages instead of continuing to make 
snarky comments? These messages have all ready been approved by the moderators. 
At times, you are a huge distraction to this list. If you don't like it here, 
maybe you should consider of unsubscribing.

Kyle

On Feb 28, 2014, at 9:19 AM, "Fred Olver"  wrote:
I'm going to block your messages because I have tired of the propegand from 
you. Seems to me you could ask folks to become subscribers if they were 
interested in what you had to say.
 
Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Marcy Weinberg   
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 12:14 PM
Subject: There's An App For That, hungry today?
 
Hi, all, 
 
Last week was the debut of Fedora Outlier’s new series, There’s An App For 
That, with music being the first category of apps. This week, the category is 
productivity, with food and drink specifically.
 
Do you love to eat? Are you more likely to cook at home, order in, or do you 
like to get out sometimes? And how about mixing up a cool mixed drink wen 
company arrives? There’s an app to help with any of these. Perhaps you have 
heard of the ones reviewed this week, maybe you even have one or all of them. 
Or, there might be an app that you have not heard about but would be perfect 
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RE: kindle

[Amy Billman]

Kindle for iPad is awesome, too!
I have an iPad mini, and before that, I had a full size iPad. The speaker
alone makes reading on that type of device nicer compared to the iPhone,
though the iPhone is fine. The larger screen real estate is nice to have
too.

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Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

The Kindle app for iPhone does work well with voice over so I assume on an 
iPad you could expect it to work equally as well.


Regards,

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: "May and Noah" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:57 PM
Subject: kindle


> Good afternoon.
>
> Does anyone know of kindle works well with voice over?
>
> There was a last minute change with a text book of mine for class and the 
> only Etext I can find is for kindle. Thanks for any help.
>
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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RE: kindle

[Amy Billman]

I've gotta say that the highlighting option is really cool!
And, you can see what others have highlighted too!
Oddly enough, I recently purchased a cookbook and was curious to see what
sorts of things others had highlighted, and while it wasn't everything that
I would have thought was important, there were also some useful things.
>From the perspective of a student in a textbook, this feature could prove
potentially helpful; even if it's just the ability to highlight stuff that
you feel is important; much like a sighted person would make notes or
highlights in the margins of their print books.



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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: kindle

Hi,
I will share what I saved in my files from a previous email.  It is really 
good and gives you directions how to highlight things which would be vital 
for a student.  Actually, it works as well as iBooks.
Sherrie


BREAKING: Amazon's Kindle for iOS Updated with Accessibility

Posted under:
Accessibility
by
Justin Romack

I remember the feeling quite vividly-sitting in my college courses on the 
first day of class, staring at a syllabus with books I knew I'd never be 
able
to obtain in an accessible format before we were to review them. I attended 
a great university and had access to a fabulous disability services office,
but far too many books were simply out of reach in a timely fashion.

I'd talk to peers who would download their books onto a Kindle, and as time 
progressed, soon they'd load them on their iPhones and iPads to tote around
wherever they went. But, sadly, Amazon seemed to stubbornly push 
inaccessible Kindle products onto the market without any regard to the 
blindness community.

That all changed yesterday morning, though, and many have voiced their 
excitement for the
newly accessible Kindle for iOS application
(available now through Apple's App Store). That's right-the blind, visually 
impaired and dyslexic now have full access to Amazon's catalog of over one
million books, magazines and newspapers, all at the touch of a button in the
Kindle Store.

After playing around with the app, connecting my braille display and 
exploring tactilely and buying (more than) a few books to try out, I want to

share
some initial impressions and a general breakdown of what you can expect from

the app.

The Interface

Amazon's Kindle for iOS has a simple interface upon startup. If you have 
purchased books already, you'll be taken to your cloud bookshelf with an 
option
to download each title. If you've already downloaded these texts, you can 
click and launch them with a single-finger double tap gesture, or a 
split-tap
gesture.

While in the book of your choice, Amazon has made the interface incredibly 
simple, boasting no buttons, labels or other controls you may expect to see
in an app like this. You are presented with the book's text-and that's all. 
This is nice because the text fills the entirety of the screen, making it 
much
easier to scroll line by line with your finger.

The Reading Experience

I'm not a huge fan of audiobooks. The dramatization of text by some readers 
tends to be a turnoff for me, and it's important that I have access to the
text in a way that I can read character by character if need be. Solid, 
intuitive and flexible navigation is imperative for any reading app or 
device-and
it's why I've really enjoyed using Apple's iBooks app the past year or two.

In terms of navigation, Kindle for iOS is absolutely on-par with the iBooks 
experience. I can navigate character by character, word by word, and line by
line, which is excellent. In one word-it's "flawless".

Since there are no on-screen controls while in the reading view, you can 
either interact with the text by a read all from top gesture (which is a 
two-finger
swipe downward), navigate via a rotor gesture (use the rotor to select 
whether you'll move by character, word or line), move your finger through 
the text
or move between pages (with a three-finger swipe left or right), which 
prompts the app to automatically start reading content on the new page. It's

simple,
easy and very effective.

Making Highlights and Creating Notes

This is easily one of the most exciting features I've found in the Kindle 
for iOS app-and best of all, it's very accessible. To highlight a section of
text, or to create a note about something you've read, perform a 
single-finger, double-tap and hold around the general area in which you'd 
like

RE: kindle

[Amy Billman]

Hello,
I cannot speak for how well it functions one way or the other on the Mac. I
sort of wonder as there's been no fan fair so-to-speak around it.
That being said, the Kindle App on the iPhone and iPad works quite well!

I hope that helps!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of May and Noah
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:58 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: kindle

Good afternoon.

Does anyone know of kindle works well with voice over?

There was a last minute change with a text book of mine for class and the
only Etext I can find is for kindle. Thanks for any help.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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RE: apple forcing updates yet again

[Amy Billman]

Agreed. Plus, eventually, you have to update. I mean, you can't hold off
forever; though maybe you can, as I know some odd ducks still running...
Windows 98 on their PC's... 
I just shake my head, and smile! LOL!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again

Considering that more than 65% of IPhones have been updated to 7 I
don't see the big deal.

On 10/15/13, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> It's not really the issue, but how much space does this image really
> take up? I've heard that the download size varries from 750M to 1.2G for
> Verizon users. 3G is only needed during the install process. How do
> people know it's really taking up 3G of their space? I wonder if some
> uncompressing is going on after the image is downloaded, although I'd
> expect this just to be done during the install process itself. It would
> be pretty unfortunate for those 8G and 16G iPhone users who don't want
> to move up to IOS 7 to lose even more space if the image is untangled in
> preparation for the install.
>
> On 10/15/2013 10:40 AM, Amy Billman wrote:
>> I will say though that once the update is at least downloaded (not
>> installed,) it will give you no choice but to update it in full because
>> that
>> download's just sitting there eating three gb of space.
>> I'm sure eventually there will be no choice but to update, but there's no
>> way for it to happen accidentally or at the very least, without the terms
>> and conditions being agreed to.
>> Although... If you're running the latest iTunes and want to back up your
>> phone, will it only allow you to update to iOS7? I'm running it because
>> there's no reason not to, so I'm not sure how that would work... I know
>> itunes recognizes that your software is out of date, but unsure if you
>> can
>> proceed with doing a backup without upgrading to the latest.
>> Sadly though, regardless of how it happened or what the cause was,
>> contacting disability services wil likely be an exercise in extreme
>> futility, since once you've upgraded, you're running it whether you want
>> to
>> or not; from what Apple has told me anyway... *shrug* Nothing disability
>> department can do one way or the other since it's not an accessibility or
>> disability related issue.
>>
>> Amy Billman
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: apple forcing updates yet again
>>
>> Hi Paula,
>>
>> I suspect that maybe whoever was helping her might have inadvertently
>> tapped
>> Install or said Yes when asked to update, but you still have to Agree
>> twice
>> to the Terms and Conditions and I really can't see how if you tap Decline
>> it
>> would not let you out of the screen.
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago somebody also posted that iOS 7 installed on their
>> phone automatically and I mean "installed" not just downloaded and there
>> is
>> just no way it would do so because you just have to double tap I Agree
>> and
>> then double tap it a second time.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Marianne Denning
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:09 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again
>>
>> Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That is
>> strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
>> There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and
>> they
>> didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
>> On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
>>> Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not
>>> want to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her
>>> phone, and the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option
>>> was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We
>>> tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button
>>> for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.
>>> There still seemed to be no way to get out of the u

RE: apple forcing updates yet again

[Amy Billman]

I will say though that once the update is at least downloaded (not
installed,) it will give you no choice but to update it in full because that
download's just sitting there eating three gb of space.
I'm sure eventually there will be no choice but to update, but there's no
way for it to happen accidentally or at the very least, without the terms
and conditions being agreed to.
Although... If you're running the latest iTunes and want to back up your
phone, will it only allow you to update to iOS7? I'm running it because
there's no reason not to, so I'm not sure how that would work... I know
itunes recognizes that your software is out of date, but unsure if you can
proceed with doing a backup without upgrading to the latest.
Sadly though, regardless of how it happened or what the cause was,
contacting disability services wil likely be an exercise in extreme
futility, since once you've upgraded, you're running it whether you want to
or not; from what Apple has told me anyway... *shrug* Nothing disability
department can do one way or the other since it's not an accessibility or
disability related issue.

Amy Billman
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: apple forcing updates yet again

Hi Paula,

I suspect that maybe whoever was helping her might have inadvertently tapped
Install or said Yes when asked to update, but you still have to Agree twice
to the Terms and Conditions and I really can't see how if you tap Decline it
would not let you out of the screen.

A couple of weeks ago somebody also posted that iOS 7 installed on their
phone automatically and I mean "installed" not just downloaded and there is
just no way it would do so because you just have to double tap I Agree and
then double tap it a second time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple forcing updates yet again

Paula, I would contact the disability support number at Apple.  That is
strange because I have not heard of that happening to anyone.
There were 2 people at our meeting last night who had not upgraded and they
didn't have that problem.  Lots of luck!
On 10/15/13, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Hi, everyone. A coworker has an IPhone 5 running IOS 6.  She does not 
> want to update right now.  Yesterday someone was helping her with her 
> phone, and the phone asked if she wanted to update.  The only option 
> was "ok".  There appears to be no way to get out of that screen.  We 
> tried re-setting the phone by holding down the lock and home button 
> for 10 seconds and just turning the phone off and back on again.  
> There still seemed to be no way to get out of the update prompt.  
> Going into the app switcher still didn't work.  Anyone have any 
> thoughts?  I'm disappointed to see this with no option to cancel.
>
> Thanks.
>
> God bless!
>
> Paula and Babe
>
>
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RE: Selecting a profile on the netflix app?

[Amy Billman]

Wow! i was just about to post and ask this question and here i find this
thread.

I will have to try that; though I confess for whatever rhyme or reason it
hasn't worked thus far...

I need to make the other profile, and then play with it more when I'm not
slammed with work though.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting a profile on the netflix app?

The only thing I've come up with so far is to find where I want to tap 
on the screen, turn VO off with a triple click of the home button, tap 
the screen and then turn VO back on with another triple click of the 
home button. Tapping in the right area of the screen isn't so hard, 
since I have four profiles and they each take up pretty much one 
quadrant of the screen.

On 08/11/2013 05:24 PM, Jared wrote:
> How do you select a profile on the Netflix app? I can flick between
> profiles and find them by touching on the screen but double tapping them
> weather I flick to them or tap on the screen to find where they are does
> not appear to work.
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RE: Kayak app is accessible. It is an app for travelers

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Kayak rocks!
It's a great way to price airlines. Even if you don't book them that way,
it's a good way to be able to find cheap airline tickets.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Arnold
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Kayak app is accessible. It is an app for travelers

Hey everyone. I found this app doing my coin collecting for Iassociate2. It
is a really good application. I don't travel much. But I am still going to
keep it on my phone. It has information about airlines and just a bunch of
stuff.   There are buttons that are not labeled. But I find if I double tap
them it usually brings up either a website or in the case of airlines the
thing that says do you want to call this phone number. They even have
information on the different things that are in airports. It is an extremely
good application. I apologize if it has been mentioned before. It also has a
packing list area. And it just has a lot of information for the traveler.
Except for unlabeled buttons here and there. It seems to be fully accessible
with voiceover. I hope this helps someone.

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Re: Cupcakes app.

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Hello all!
Just a quick FYI; because I've seen posts over here asking.
While you can drag your ingredients into the bowl with voiceover while
making cupcakes from scratch, it did not have any sort of verbal
confirmation (like they do in the More Breakfast app,) telling you that
things were in the bowl.
You can tell yes, because the ingredients disappear from the list above, but
having this confirmation would make it a much faster process. It is, after
all, a game.
I say all this, to say that I emailed the developer to suggest implementing
something that would tell you that stuff was in the bowl, or not, and they
have already submitted the update to Apple and are awaiting its approval so
that it can be put in the app store.
 
Point is, if any of you like the Maverick software apps, and would like to
see voiceover accessibility or fixes with existing apps, they are very
responsive.
I know some think apps like that are pointless. LOL! But for those who play
them, it's nice to see a quick response and action from developers.
Actually, that goes for any app really. I found it very refreshing that they
not only seemed to have a clue, but they didn't waste time in making those
changes.
Have a wonderful Monday, all!
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RE: What do they do???

[Amy Billman]

This is a kinder and more mature solution...
Taking into consideration, that not everyone is a good researcher or
searcher.

Amy Billman
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do they do???

Hi,
I have worked with students however who could do only email but hadn't
gotten to the web browsing stage and these questions could fall into that
category in some cases.
I try to tell people "Google is your friend" and putting the string "itunes
appstore appname" (where the actual app name is substituted of course)
usually does the trick.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fred Olver
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What do they do???

Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating that 
somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the information 
at their fingertips to find the information themselves rather than ask on 
such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of two messages in a row 
which asked the question of two different app's, what does it do.

Fred
- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a row that 
asked the same question, "What does it do - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do they do???


> Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and condescending 
> myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I doubt many of the 
> targeted audience is going to have the patience to read such an email let 
> alone follow the tips tucked in it. I also wonder how much time was spent 
> writing and reading such a message as opposed to just hitting the delete 
> key when someone asks a question you can't or don't want to answer. I find

> the one liners like "What does this app do?" or "How much does it cost?" 
> to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the 
> moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such behavior, I 
> don't think it's going to change human behavior much, and I think it's 
> best left to Raul and the moderators.
>
> On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
>> Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so tired of
>> folks asking what does it do when they could so easily find out the
>> information for themselves.
>> Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to the 
>> list.
>> Fred
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Wil James <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: What do they do???
>>
>> You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?
>>
>> Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
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>> <mailto:w...@wilanddenise.com>
>> Twitter: wiljames
>> zellow: wilcjames
>>
>>
>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" > <mailto:goodfo...@charter.net>> wrote:
>>
>>> Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do
>>> What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
>>> it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
>>> I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
>>> easily bring you the information you crave.
>>> What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
>>> Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
>>> marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
>>> Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
>>> the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
>>> for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting
>>> to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
>>> seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
>>> difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
>>> "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
>>> then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
>>> There are five buttons labeled from left to r

RE: Portable Bluetooth Speaker Recommendations?

[Amy Billman]

Sadly, it's next to impossible in most instances to find a Bluetooth speaker
that also has the speaker phone capability and not spend over $100.
The other thing I've seen and noticed with a lot of them, in particular the
Jambox, is that the more you use it, you will find that the quality of tone
gets very muddy.
This I found after some research, is something that can happen over time
with some speakers. Don't know about Bos because that's not my thing.
I've heard some really great sounding bos speakers, and some where the room
they were being played in didn't do them any favors, and they sounded like
utter crap.
This, in addition to the fact that I've got more high priority things to
spend money on, has always made me not bother with that brand for portable
speaker or home theater. But that's just me and my own personal view.
 
 
Amy Billman
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Portable Bluetooth Speaker Recommendations?
 
I'm looking to purchase a portable bluetooth speaker for use with both my
iPhone 5 and my Victor Reader Stream. I don't want to spend over $100 and
although it would be nice if the speaker could double as a speaker phone and
allow me to answer calls, that's not a strict requirement. I'm mainly
interested in sound quality including acceptable volume without distortion.
The unit will have to have an auxiliary 3.5mm jack to enable me to attach my
non-bluetooth Stream but most units I've reviewed do have this jack. To
recap, the main things I'm looking for:
 
1.  Good sound quality with acceptable volume without distortion.
2.  Portability. I want to be able to move this around easily and take
it on the road too.
3.  External 3.5mm auxiliary jack.
4.  Ability to use the speaker while it's charging.
5.  Ability to use the speaker with more than one bluetooth device would
be a bonus although not a strict requirement.
6.  The ability for the speaker to act as a speaker phone and allow the
user to answer incoming calls would also be a nice feature.
 
The models I'm considering are:
 
1.  JBL Flip Wireless Bluetooth Speaker - $88.99 plus $8 shipping at
Amazon vendor.
2.  Logitech UE Mobile Boombox - $87.79 at Amazon.
3.  BeatBox by Desaia - $70 plus $7 shipping from SpeedDots.
 
I realize speaker recommendations are highly subjective but I'm hoping by
listing what I'm looking for and the models I'm considering, someone who has
actually heard some of these models can provide some suggestions.
 
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Alan Lemly
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Songza on the iPad.

[Amy Billman]

 
 
Hello all!
 
For those of you who have used Songza on the iPad, what are your
experiences?
It seems to work all right on the iPhone, but apparently something is broken
in their iPad app, at least it seems that way.
I so love apps when you double tap on buttons like search etc, and it does
nothing. LOL!
Is it just me, or are others having similar issues?
I always find it strange when an app works well on one iOS platform and not
another.
 
Thanks in advance for any info!
 
 
Amy Billman

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RE: Hulu and net flicks

[Amy Billman]

Netflix has also gotten better in the past couple of months as far as how
well it works with voiceover on the iPhone; though I've got friends in
Canada who grumble about what is available for streaming via Netflix.
Apparently, there's a great deal more content in the US. 

I recommend looking at what content Hulu has available for streaming, and
then determine whether or not (for you,) the subscription is worth it. It's
not expensive, but a lot of the channels you've mentioned here (at least
from what I've noticed,) don't have programs available. You've gotta look at
what programs interest you really.


Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Regina Alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hulu and net flicks

Thanks to all.  Did not understand about the streaming so the question about
memory.  No Apple TV.  Just looking for alternative to cable.  Mostly listen
to msnbc, CNN, and discovery channels as fit/health and investigation and
history.  Suggestions welcome for iPhone or computer.  Thanks again.  Happy
new year to all.  Changes for me, not for better, so just checking into
options.  Will continue to have wifi, however. 

Reggie and Brooks

On Jan 1, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Reggie,
> 
> Yes, you do need a subscription for these services. I don't think Hulu is
> available in Canada so I can't comment on the accessibility of their app,
> but the Netflix app does definitely have it's challenges. It does,
however,
> work rather well on the Apple TV so if you have one of these you can
access
> it that way and since an Apple TV is usually connected to a TV or home
> theatre system it is a better way to listen to a movie anyways. I am not
> quite sure what you mean by "will I need more memory to use on the phone",
> Netflix and to my knowledge Hulu are streaming services and don't allow
for
> any downloads which means you can use them even on an 8 Gb iPod Touch
Third
> Generation.
> 
> Happy New Year,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Regina Alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 8:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hulu and net flicks
> 
> 
> Understanding I will needs to purchase subscriptions for both of these,
how
> accessible are the apps, and will I need more memory to use on the phone?
> Thanks for the help. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Reggie and Brooks
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RE: SpeedDots Screen Protector for IPad Mini

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Hello all,
Just a quick note in response to this. If you're interested in our screen
protectors for the iPhone 5, there's a form right on the front of our
homepage. If you are interested and have not filled it out already, go ahead
and do so. That will insure that you get notified immediately when they are
available.

Also, we do not have a similar form for the iPad mini, but if you email us
via our Contact Us page that you're interested, I'll be more than happy to
keep your info on file and notify you as soon as they are available.

Regards,
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Of Tina Murphy
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: SpeedDots Screen Protector for IPad Mini

Hi All,
I dropped a note to Doug at SpeedDots this morning asking about the 
screen protector for the IPad Mini. He says one will be coming out 
about when the screen protector for the IPhone 5 comes out.

So it's on the way.
Tina
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RE: Speaker with Go Payment

[Amy Billman]

I personally prefer to use the card reader. I'm not that trusting of other's
ability to either remember their card info correctly or to read the number
properly.
Plus, because for me in most cases I'm using it in packed convention exhibit
halls, it's a must to use headphones.
The card reader works well in that at least we can use it with voiceover
unlike the Square one.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Speaker with Go Payment

Yes ma'am, it's set up that way as the portable card reader that you'd get 
from them if infect you get one would be plugged in to the earphone hole. Of

course when the earphone hole has something in it. You're not going to have 
voiceover at all. I don't use the card reader. I just inter the credit card 
numbers by hand. The only down side to this is, you'd better trust that the 
person who is reading their card number to you is actually being honest 
about it. However, I've yet to find another work around.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kim" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 14:16
Subject: Speaker with Go Payment


> Hi,
>
> I'm setting up a Go Payment account to accept credit card payments and it 
> seems to bipass the iPhone speaker and VoiceOver only comes through the 
> part you hold to your ear.
>
> Is this the way it's supposed to be?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kim
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RE: Tactile screen protectors for iPhone 5?

[Amy Billman]

Hello:
We are waiting for our iPhone 5 to arrive as well as materials so that we
can begin production on the screen protectors.
We have no diffinitive date yet when they will be up on our site. I can
however if you would prefer, keep your email address on file and notify you
as soon as they are available for purchase.
Also, feel free to check our web site and Twitter, because all news about
new product releases goes there first.
Thank you for your interest in our products!
 
Regards,
 
Amy Billman
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tactile screen protector
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tactile screen protectors for iPhone 5?
 
The subject line says it all. I've checked the at guys website and speeddots
website and I realize it has been less than a week since the iPhone 5 came
out. Just wondered if anybody knew any more about it than I do, which
wouldn't take much since i only know they aren't being offered at this
point. I thought they really didn't matter that much but I do notice a
difference when I use my iPhone 5 without the tactile protector vs my iPhone
4S with the tactile protector so I must be unconsciously using the dots for
some amount of orientation.
 
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my rock and my Redeemer.
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RE: blue tooth bug with speed dots micro keyboard

[Amy Billman]

Hi.
A few thoughts concerning your keyboard issue.
First of all, I know that lots of times when you switch phones, bluetooth
settings can get really funky and its brain needs to be reset. have you
tried telling the phone to forget the device, and then re-pairing it again?
also, before you re-pair, turn bluetooth off and back on again. So
basically, you want to pair it from scratch; clean slate so-to-speak.
Beyond that, I don't know what could cause that bug. Our iPhone 5 is still
on back order and not supposed to arrive until the beginning of October. I
might have something more useful for you once we've had the opportunity to
pair it with one of the mini bluetooth keyboards.
In the meantime, please let me know if you have success with this.
 
Thank you for the feedback. i'm sorry you're experiencing this problem.
Hopefully this fixes it for you.
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blue tooth bug with speed dots micro keyboard
 
Okay, got my iPhone5 early this morning.  And connected my bt keyboard that
I bought about 2 months ago from speed dots.  It connects just fine, but if
you turn it off while your not using it, you have to authorize each time
with a different 4 digit code each time.  I've done this 4 times, just to
make sure it wasn't me.  And it's still in the list of bt devices, but when
you double tap "not connected button"  so it will connect, thats when your
presented a diferent 4 digits to pair it to your phone.  Has anyone else who
is using this keyboard experienced this?
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RE: Really Speeddots?

[Amy Billman]

Hello Eric:
You placed another order with us back on January 10th (or someone with that
same email address did,) and you filled in that information. Back then, you
did not seem to have a problem with it. I wonder why this is all of a sudden
such a huge problem, and why it has supposedly "soured excellent experiences
with this petty control ?" to be fair, if you did have a problem with it at
the time, we were not contacted directly by you to notify us of that fact.
I apologize if you believe this to be a move by a company whose only
interest is in being arrogant, and who is using its customer base to do
their marketing for them.
I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. This is a
feature built into our cart. It's not something that you can take out, and,
lots either fill it in with something useful or just put a random character
into the space.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to know as a business where people are
hearing about your company or products. In fact, it's useful; it's how
companies big and small get a feel for how they're doing on a marketing
level. Really, unless you're talking about us to friends or associates, etc,
answering that question on our cart is not doing any marketing for us at
all.
Personally, I've seen this feature built into a lot of shopping carts, and
yes, you have to put something, anything into the space provided in order to
continue.
Meanwhile, I have contacted our shopping cart vendor, to determine whether
or not this can be made to be an optional feature in order to accommodate
you, or anyone else who might have a problem with it in the future. Nobody
has in the year plus that we've been using this same shopping cart, but
there's a first time for everything. Better to be safe than sorry, in my
opinion anyway, as keeping our customers happy is our top priority. I'd like
to avoid additional flamatory posts like this in a public forum if at all
possible.
Also, check your inbox. Once I saw this, I made sure you were contacted
privately regarding this matter, and your order.
Please do not hesitate to provide us with your feedback in future; we have a
"contact us," page for that very purpose, and answer it even after business
hours.
Thank you again for your positive feedback. It's very much appreciated!

Regards,
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of E Steven S
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 2:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Really Speeddots?

Just made a purchase from their site. I could not give them my money until I
filled in a field "where did you hear about us".

Smacks of desperation for recognition and arrogance over their customers. I
am highly disappointed what has previously been excellent experiences with
them has been soured with this petty control.

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RE: IPhone 5 cases

[Amy Billman]

I haven't officially heard one way or the other either, though I would think
that they would. Actually, they'd have to, because people are going to want
and need cases for their phones, but also, unlike the situation with the 4
and 4S, the new iPhone is drastically different. Even the location of the
headphone jack is different.
What I'm curious about is how long it will take the new cases from OtterBox
or even Life Proof to surface once the new phones are being shipped.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fenton
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:19 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: IPhone 5 cases

Hello:

Has anybody heard of Otterbox or another manufacturer will be producing
cases for the new iPhones?  I haven't seen anything about these sorts of
accessories yet anywhere.  Thank you. 

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Cooking App for the iPhone

[Amy Billman]

That particular app I'm not familiar with.
I will say though that some of the cooking apps, like Big Oven, all Recipes,
and Epicurius have different ethnic recipes. If you're looking for something
specific, I recommend searching for a specific ethnicity (followed by the
word recipes,) in the apps store. I have not, but this is because I haven't
ventured in my own cooking beyond American, Thai, Greek, and Italian; due
more to time than anything else. *smile*

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cooking App for the iPhone

I have heard of one called IRecipes. Have you heard of it? If so is it good.
Second what about for ethnic cooking?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cooking App for the iPHone

Oh there are so many cooking related apps on the iPhone; and very good ones
at that!
There's Big Oven, Kraft iFood assistant, Betty Crocker Mobile Cookbook,
McCormick Recipe Finder, and All Recipes; just to name a few! I have too big
of a collection... There's also a crockpot one from Sun Beam products. 
Really, with all the accessible and free recipe apps on the iPhone, you can
have a wealth of cookbooks/recipes at your fingertips, and you'll have more
than you can cook from. *smile* Don't look at recipes when you're hungry
though... haha!
I will say though that the Big Oven App (for me anyway,) tended to be very
laggy on the 3GS; just something worth noting, if any of you 3gS users are
interested in that one in particular. It is however, not laggy on the 4 or
4S.


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SpeedDots: your leader for cell phone accessories, and the makers of the
tactile screen protector http://www.SpeedDots.com

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of VaShaun Jones
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cooking App for the iPHone

Thanks for this. I was originally looking for one to do a presentation on.
Now you guys are making me feel like I will be cooking allot. Again thanks
for the suggestions.
On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> 
> I have the Epicurious app on my phone. What I like about it is when it 
> is first opened, the first page will give you different selections on 
> the
type
> of meals if you are interested in one of the categories. There are 
> also
four
> different buttons at the bottom to go to the home menu, search, 
> favorites, shopping list, and about. At the upper right hand corner 
> after making a category selection, there is a "toggle list" button. 
> This needs to be
tapped
> on to open the list of recipes. Once you have selected a recipe by 
> tapping on it, there is an "Add" button that will give you options to 
> add it to
your
> favorite list, email the recipes, tweet it, send to Facebook, or add 
> to
the
> shopping list. There are different ways to search when you tap on the
search
> button. There are different types of food items such as avocado, 
> bacon,
etc.
> to link on for recipes. There is a text field to type in a type of 
> recipe you are looking for or a food item to search the app. Besides 
> different
food
> items to search for, there are categories for dietary considerations, 
> dish type, main/course, seasonal, and etc. For 1.99,  you can get the 
> recipe
box
> and sync the recipes there. I have not considered spending the money
because
> I place it in my favorites or email myself the recipes. This is a good 
> little app. I believe it is free minus the recipe box sync for $1.99. 
> The developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy.
> 
> Epicurious Recipes & Shopping List
> Condé Nast Digital
> 
> Best,
> Eileen
> 
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RE: Cooking App for the iPHone

[Amy Billman]

Well, I honestly haven't encountered a situation where my phone or any other
device I've used for recipes in the kitchen, (Booksense for example,) has
either gotten messy or in particular, dropped in my food. Now that I say
that, it'll happen I bet... LOL!
That being said, there are sleeves that you can purchase, (also kitchen
mounts for the iPad,) that will cover your phone to keep it free from
messes.
I will say though that I'm one of those people who is constantly taking my
phone out of its case, and cleaning the case with Dawn and my phone with a
little Windex. I find that just general day to day use makes both icky from
sweat or dust from your daily traveling alone. So it really could be that my
being a bit neurotic when it comes to the cleanliness of my phone is what's
keeping things from getting messed up in the kitchen.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marianne Denning
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cooking App for the iPHone

I am very curious.  I have stayed away from the cooking apps because I
worry about the phone getting messy, dropped in my food... How do you
use this when cooking?

On 9/13/12, Amy Billman  wrote:
> Oh there are so many cooking related apps on the iPhone; and very good
ones
> at that!
> There's Big Oven, Kraft iFood assistant, Betty Crocker Mobile Cookbook,
> McCormick Recipe Finder, and All Recipes; just to name a few! I have too
> big
> of a collection... There's also a crockpot one from Sun Beam products.
> Really, with all the accessible and free recipe apps on the iPhone, you
can
> have a wealth of cookbooks/recipes at your fingertips, and you'll have
more
> than you can cook from. *smile* Don't look at recipes when you're hungry
> though... haha!
> I will say though that the Big Oven App (for me anyway,) tended to be very
> laggy on the 3GS; just something worth noting, if any of you 3gS users are
> interested in that one in particular. It is however, not laggy on the 4 or
> 4S.
>
>
>  Amy Billman
> SpeedDots: your leader for cell phone accessories, and the makers of the
> tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
>
> Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
>
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of VaShaun Jones
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cooking App for the iPHone
>
> Thanks for this. I was originally looking for one to do a presentation on.
> Now you guys are making me feel like I will be cooking allot. Again thanks
> for the suggestions.
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Folks,
>>
>> I have the Epicurious app on my phone. What I like about it is when it is
>> first opened, the first page will give you different selections on the
> type
>> of meals if you are interested in one of the categories. There are also
> four
>> different buttons at the bottom to go to the home menu, search,
>> favorites,
>> shopping list, and about. At the upper right hand corner after making a
>> category selection, there is a "toggle list" button. This needs to be
> tapped
>> on to open the list of recipes. Once you have selected a recipe by
>> tapping
>> on it, there is an "Add" button that will give you options to add it to
> your
>> favorite list, email the recipes, tweet it, send to Facebook, or add to
> the
>> shopping list. There are different ways to search when you tap on the
> search
>> button. There are different types of food items such as avocado, bacon,
> etc.
>> to link on for recipes. There is a text field to type in a type of recipe
>> you are looking for or a food item to search the app. Besides different
> food
>> items to search for, there are categories for dietary considerations,
>> dish
>> type, main/course, seasonal, and etc. For 1.99,  you can get the recipe
> box
>> and sync the recipes there. I have not considered spending the money
> because
>> I place it in my favorites or email myself the recipes. This is a good
>> little app. I believe it is free minus the recipe box sync for $1.99. The
>> developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy.
>>
>> Epicurious Recip

RE: Cooking App for the iPHone

[Amy Billman]

Oh there are so many cooking related apps on the iPhone; and very good ones
at that!
There's Big Oven, Kraft iFood assistant, Betty Crocker Mobile Cookbook,
McCormick Recipe Finder, and All Recipes; just to name a few! I have too big
of a collection... There's also a crockpot one from Sun Beam products. 
Really, with all the accessible and free recipe apps on the iPhone, you can
have a wealth of cookbooks/recipes at your fingertips, and you'll have more
than you can cook from. *smile* Don't look at recipes when you're hungry
though... haha!
I will say though that the Big Oven App (for me anyway,) tended to be very
laggy on the 3GS; just something worth noting, if any of you 3gS users are
interested in that one in particular. It is however, not laggy on the 4 or
4S.


 Amy Billman
SpeedDots: your leader for cell phone accessories, and the makers of the
tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com

Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of VaShaun Jones
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 12:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Cooking App for the iPHone

Thanks for this. I was originally looking for one to do a presentation on.
Now you guys are making me feel like I will be cooking allot. Again thanks
for the suggestions.
On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Eileen Misrahi 
wrote:

> Hello Folks, 
> 
> I have the Epicurious app on my phone. What I like about it is when it is
> first opened, the first page will give you different selections on the
type
> of meals if you are interested in one of the categories. There are also
four
> different buttons at the bottom to go to the home menu, search, favorites,
> shopping list, and about. At the upper right hand corner after making a
> category selection, there is a "toggle list" button. This needs to be
tapped
> on to open the list of recipes. Once you have selected a recipe by tapping
> on it, there is an "Add" button that will give you options to add it to
your
> favorite list, email the recipes, tweet it, send to Facebook, or add to
the
> shopping list. There are different ways to search when you tap on the
search
> button. There are different types of food items such as avocado, bacon,
etc.
> to link on for recipes. There is a text field to type in a type of recipe
> you are looking for or a food item to search the app. Besides different
food
> items to search for, there are categories for dietary considerations, dish
> type, main/course, seasonal, and etc. For 1.99,  you can get the recipe
box
> and sync the recipes there. I have not considered spending the money
because
> I place it in my favorites or email myself the recipes. This is a good
> little app. I believe it is free minus the recipe box sync for $1.99. The
> developer and the full app name is below. Enjoy. 
> 
> Epicurious Recipes & Shopping List
> Condé Nast Digital 
> 
> Best, 
> Eileen 
> 
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RE: DVR Remote for the iPhone

[Amy Billman]

I think that depends on who you have as your cable provider.
For example, I know that Direct TV has those capabilities in its iPhone app,
however, I personally have Comcast, and while the xfinity app does allow you
to schedule recordings, and even delete them, you cannot play them back on
the phone, or, use the phone to start them playing on the TV.
I've looked at forums for this one and apparently this is something that
folks would like to see, but not something that they've decided to implement
any time soon.
I am not aware of any app not tied to a cable TV/satellite provider that
does the things you are wanting.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kevin Barry
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: DVR Remote for the iPhone

There is for DIRECTV at least.

At 02:22 PM 8/18/2012, you wrote:
> Hello all, I would like to know if anyone knows about an app 
> that controls a cable box or a DVR box from a cable company.  The 
> features that I'm looking for are, schedule recordings, play back 
> the recordings on your TV.  Well basically all of the functions 
> that you could do on the regular TV remote.
>
>Albert Martinez
>Los Angeles California
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RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

[Amy Billman]

No. They developed their own thing and got into a partnership.
The up side though is that there's no taking over of the audio jack. A good
thing for voiceover users. *smile*

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Damashe Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

Hi,
Can the Mophie Market case be used with any payment app, or is it specific 
to the go payment app?
I think I have seen a simular case in the apple stores, but they were using 
iPod touches to process payments.

Thanks
- Original Message - 
From: "Amy Billman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?


> The free Go Payment reader doesn't work for crap. That being said, the Go
> payment app is very accessible, and the Mophie reader which is not free,
> works incredibly well with headphones, no splitter needed.
> It's called the Mophie Marketplace.
> It looks like the Mophie juice pack case just doesn't offer you any 
> battery.
> :-)
> They make them for the iPhone 3, 3GS, as wel as 4 and 4S.
>
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> Follow us on Twitter:
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Karl Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>
> I tried a splitter from Radio Shack and it didn't work. A friend of mine
> says he has one that works but I've not seen it. I thought it would be
> simple to just listen through my blue tooth ear piece but as soon as the
> card reader went into the earphone jack the audio was cut off the blue 
> tooth
> as well. Nothing is ever as simple as you think it is going to be.
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> __
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Aman Singer
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>
> Hi.
> If I may ask, has anyone tried a headphone splitter, whether
> purchased or home-made, with either the unit from Go Payment or that from
> Square? If so, has it failed to work?
> Thanks.
> Aman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sean Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>
> No ma'am, you're right on track. My wife runs a photography business & we
> use it to except Visa, MasterCard & AmEx payments all the time. I am also
> currently in school to become a licensed Massage Therapist & I plan to use
> it in my business as well.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tara Prakash" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 06:43
> Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>
>
>> Can you use go payment to accept credit card payments? Sorry if I
>> completely misunderstood this app.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sean Paul" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:18 AM
>> Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>>
>>
>>> All, I haven't used the square reader however I have used Go Payment
>>> which is from intuit. Who are the same people who make turbo tax.
>>> Yes, it plugs in to the headphone jack which disables voiceover.
>>> However, I plug up my blueto

RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

[Amy Billman]

The free Go Payment reader doesn't work for crap. That being said, the Go
payment app is very accessible, and the Mophie reader which is not free,
works incredibly well with headphones, no splitter needed.
It's called the Mophie Marketplace.
It looks like the Mophie juice pack case just doesn't offer you any battery.
:-)
They make them for the iPhone 3, 3GS, as wel as 4 and 4S.

Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Karl Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

I tried a splitter from Radio Shack and it didn't work. A friend of mine
says he has one that works but I've not seen it. I thought it would be
simple to just listen through my blue tooth ear piece but as soon as the
card reader went into the earphone jack the audio was cut off the blue tooth
as well. Nothing is ever as simple as you think it is going to be.

Karl



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Aman Singer
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

Hi.
If I may ask, has anyone tried a headphone splitter, whether
purchased or home-made, with either the unit from Go Payment or that from
Square? If so, has it failed to work?
Thanks.
Aman 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sean Paul
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 7:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?

No ma'am, you're right on track. My wife runs a photography business & we
use it to except Visa, MasterCard & AmEx payments all the time. I am also
currently in school to become a licensed Massage Therapist & I plan to use
it in my business as well.
- Original Message -
From: "Tara Prakash" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 06:43
Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?


> Can you use go payment to accept credit card payments? Sorry if I 
> completely misunderstood this app.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sean Paul" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>
>
>> All, I haven't used the square reader however I have used Go Payment 
>> which is from intuit. Who are the same people who make turbo tax.
>> Yes, it plugs in to the headphone jack which disables voiceover. 
>> However, I plug up my bluetooth headset... & go from there. The App 
>> which comes with it is also totally accessible with VoiceOver as 
>> well. I've considered Square, however, I do not like some of their 
>> fees & other practices. I'm not saying they're a bad company.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sharonda Greenlaw" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 20:32
>> Subject: Re: blind person using s square card reader with iphone or ipad?
>>
>>
>>> Yes. I too would be interested in the response.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes
>>>
>>> On Aug 14, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Hank Smith  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello has any blind person successfully used a square reader with 
>>>> the iphone or ipad?
>>>> I know they plug in to the head phone jack so am wondering how 
>>>> blind folks are getting around this?
>>>> Hank
>>>>
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RE: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector

[Amy Billman]

Hello Vicky,
Whenever you purchase one of our bundles, (the case and screen protector
together,) you receive, (in the case of the Impact,) the case, as well as
the screen protector and cleaning cloth. This is because the Impact case
does not have a built-in screen protector like the Defender.
Whenever you purchase the Defender bundle from us, however, we cut the
screen protector to fit over the top of the case that you purchased, to
insure a perfect fit, and then send it to you; so there's no need to apply
the protector.
If you give your phone to someone, and they want to use that Defender case
without the embossed dots, they can easily remove the tactile protector and
have the normal OtterBox built-in screen protector.
The only thing I will warn you of, is that whoever removes it needs to be
extra careful when doing so. Because we cut them to fit exactly, there's
generally a tight fit around the corners. As long as you or someone else
does not try to take a knife to it to lift up a corner of the tactile
protector and damage the built-in plastic of the OtterBox, there's no reason
why it cannot be reused by whoever gets your phone.

I hope this explanation makes sense. *smile*
Please let me know if you have anymore questions.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Vicky Collins
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector

Hi Amy,

I'm not complaining here, as I'm quite happy with my purchase, 
and expect to buy from SpeedDots again when the new iPhone is 
released.  But, I was looking to figure out the differences 
between the various Otterbox cases, just for curiosity, as I've 
had the Defender case for sometime now and now the Impact with 
the SpeedDodts screen protector.  Anyway, when looking at the 
description for the Impact case, it seemed to indicate that it 
came with a screen protector and cleaning cloth.  Thus, am I 
correct in assuming that the said screen protector and cloth are 
the ones shipped when we order the combo case and protector from 
SpeedDots, whereas one just ordering the protector from SpeedDots 
and the Otterbox case elsewhere would get the ones from Otterbox, 
as well as the ones from Speeddots?  Again, not complaining, and 
the price I paid for my purchase was quite reasonable.  But, I'm 
more trying to figure out things, as I quite often give my 
current iPhone to a sighted family member when I upgrade to the 
newest model.  And, I'm thinking they might not want a protector 
with the dots on it.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector

I still think it a slight design flaw that alligning them is 
still such a
fiddle.  I know some don't think so,  but a good many do.

RobH.
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RE: song pop

[Amy Billman]

Not sure if that app uses flash or not, but it is mostly accessible only.
Not when you try to play it. I wouldn't think that was a flash issue since
you're not linking to Facebook's webpage but I'm not completely sure.
No clue if anyone has tried to contact the developers though. I was
irritated when I installed it and couldn't play it. LOL
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 2:58 PM
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Subject: RE: song pop
 
Even the ones we install from the app store?
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: song pop
 
facebook games use flash
so they won't be accessible period.
On 8/12/2012 2:54 PM, Shawn Keen wrote:
Hi,
So there's this game I see a lot of people on my Facebook playing called,
song pop. It plays a bit of a song and you have to guess what it is.  
  I installed it this morning and no go, not even remotely useable with
voice over!  This seems to be the norm with games on Facebook, like
Farmville cityville etc.  I am curious if anyone's tried to contact the
developers and had any dialog with them on accessibility.
   
  I wish we could play more of the social networking games like this.
Shawn,
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RE: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector

[Amy Billman]

Hello, Rob.
Between models for iPad, iPhone, and iPod, we've tried about 20 different
brands of clear plastic screen protectors from different vendors.
These are just your standard screen protector; no different than what a
sighted person would apply over their screen.
We are always looking for ways that our product can be improved; making
application easier for those who are blind/visually impaired. If you have
found a screen protector brand or design that is easier to apply, please
feel free to contact us at SpeedDots. We take all of those requests very
seriously, and research everything.

Take care.


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Of Rob Harris
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector

I still think it a slight design flaw that alligning them is still such a 
fiddle. I know some don't think so,  but a good many do.

RobH.
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Otterbox Impact Case and SpeedDots Screen Protector


I've had my Otterbox Impact Case with the SpeedDots Screen
Protector for a few weeks now.  And, although I'm quite happy
with my purchase, I do have some questions.

First, I just kind of guessed and put the iPhone in the Impact
case, as I wasn't sure of the correct way.  But, it kind of
looked like to me that the bottom part of the case where the
charger and speaker and the like are is the part of the phone
that goes in the case first, and then one pulls the top part of
the case over the top part of the phone.  Is this the correct
way; or, does it even make a difference?

Second, when I kind of slowly run my finger over the keyboard,
say in a practice note, when I touch where each dot is, the
proper letter for that dot is spoken.  However, once I start
trying to type a bit faster, when I hit the dot say for the N the
letter M might be spoken, or the letter P might be announced when
I hit the letter O.  But, if I then tap that dot again, the
correct letter is then stated.  I'm thinking this might be
correct behavior, as the dots are smaller than the space allotted
for each letter, although it has also occurred to me that I may
have put the screen protector with the dots on it on the phone
just a tad incorrectly.  Thus, clarification on this would be
appreciated.  And, as I'm in Kentucky visiting my family all this
week, I would have ready access to sighted assistance if needed.

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RE: #Ot, A Possible Scan You Should Know About

[Amy Billman]

If you run some sort of Malware removal tool such as malwareBytes (you can
download and install it on the Ninite site,) the calls will stop in a matter
of a day or two.
They've gotten your info from your computer.
Giving the number out while nice is not helpful, as there are several
variations of this number. This was also published in an article from
Microsoft as well as some other techy related sites, notifying folks about
this very scam.
But the important piece of all, is that you have malware.
My partner was getting similar calls, sometimes three and four times a day.
He ran anti-malware tools on his computer, and they stopped calling. I've
spoken personally with similar individuals who have reported the same
scenarios with similar results after removing the Malware.
 
HTH.
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Ferrara
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 4:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: #Ot, A Possible Scan You Should Know About
 
Work sent out similar warnings about such stuff with slight variations. It's
probably trying to steal your info on the computer, of course.
 
Thanks for sending.
 
Paul
- Original Message - 
From: Wren Langley <mailto:wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net>  
To: Accessible iOS <mailto:i...@groups.a11y.us>  ; viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: #Ot, A Possible Scan You Should Know About
 
Hi all,
 
I just got a call from someone who said he was in Jackson, California. He
said he is from the Windows technical team, and he called me because I am
the windows registered user. He said there is an Internet protocol that
sends the information to them. I was told there are lots of viruses on my
computer that need to be deleted as soon as possible, and that my computer
was sending out lots of error reports. He said they wanted no personal
information from my computer, and that the work would be done free of charge
because the company wants to help. .
 
I called back and got another person. They both had foreign accents.
 
Here is the telephone number in case any of you get the call. (209)
257-3232.
 
GOD BLESS,
 
Wren
 
 
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RE: tweetlist question

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Hi Rebecca,
Maybe there's a better way to accomplish this, but I generally use the go to
username option under the "more" tab in the app. Once you're in there, you
can type their twitter user name in the search box and it'll take you to
their timeline. From there, you can follow.
You can also do it if you're inside a tweet of theirs, but the important
point is to somehow be in their profile or timeline.
Hope that helps!


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Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tweetlist question

Hi all.  How do you follow someone using tweetlist?
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RE: Depositing Checks with the Wells Fargo App

[Amy Billman]

I have not tried to deposit with the Wels fargo App, because they haven't as
far as I know, rolled that feature out in California yet. Last I read, they
were only making it possible in specific markets. California was not one of
them.
I do know several sighted folks who use the option with Chase Bank however,
and they say it's flawless. So I suppose blind or sighted, it really depends
how good you are with the camera.
Unfortunately, there are just as many sighted folks who cannot do this as
there are blind.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Depositing Checks with the Wells Fargo App
 
This is where I have had a different experience. I also use Chase bank and
both my cited wife and me can deposit checks into it with no problems. It
was a bit of a learning curve for me, and I needed help at first to make
sure I aligned things correctly. However now we can do it with ease. I
highly recommend it.
 
--
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent from my brain
http://www.raulgallegos.com
Twitter: @rau47

On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Chuck Dean  wrote:
I have never tried the Wells fargo app for depositing checks, but saw it on
TV. 
I can not get into my Wells Fargo app to try it out, so, I am no help.
As far as Chase is concerned, my sighted friends have problems with this
feature. Imagine the worst scanning event of your life, multiply that by
100, and now you know what it is like to deposit checks with the app.
In all fairness, they have to be secure, so the scans must be perfect.

If I were you, I wouldn't waste my time.

Chuck

On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:13:37 PM UTC-7, Eileen wrote:
Hi Chuck, 

I wasn't aware that the Wells Fargo app has the feature to deposit checks. I

thought Chase was the only one. If so, can you please direct me to the link 
on the app that will allow us to do that? 

As far as the accessibility of the Wells Fargo app, It is very accessible. I

have been able to take care of all of my business there except depositing. I

agree with Chuck that a secure Wi-Fi connection is a must with any banking 
or purchase transactions. 

Eileen 
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RE: Hulu

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Hi.
The Hulu app works extremely well with voiceover on the iPhone. They've got
something right that Netflix still hasn't been able to do for whatever
reason; a completely well-functioning app with voiceover. Netflix works but
it takes some work arounds; hulu works without any of these.
You do have to have a paid Hulu-Plus subscription to stream programs via
iPhone or iPad however.
As far as airplay, there's none supported for the phone, but you can do it
on the iPad with the mirror in the task switcher.
Suppose the reason for no airplay on the phone is more due to the fact that
nobody's going to want to mirror that tiny screen onto for example, your
apple TV and tV screen. So no audio airplay on the phone, but you can work
around that on the iPad.
 
HTh.
 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:05 AM
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Subject: Hulu
 
Does the Hulu app work pretty good with voice over on the iPhone?  Can you
air play selections?  Is browsing and searching for programs accessible with
voice over and the iPhone?  
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RE: Sharing facebook posts

[Amy Billman]

Yes, I have not seen one in probably about a month or so. Watch... now that
I say that, I'll see one tomorrow. LOL! Either way there's no consistency.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing facebook posts

I have never seen a share button, that I can recall, on the mobile site.

Sharonda

On 7/24/12, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> I am looking on the mobile site right now, and I don't see any share links
> or buttons at all.
>
> Jenn
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Amy Billman
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Sharing facebook posts
>
> It's really odd, because sometimes for posts that come from pages that
> you've liked, like for a product or service, I've seen that option; but
not
> always. I don't know what makes it show on the mobile site where other
> times
> it does not.
> Meanwhile, I've personally never seen it for individuals' statuses, but I
> also know that the mobile site looks different on my phone than it does on
> the pc in IE; so it might be an option there. So far, only place I've
> noticed it for sure is via the main site. There are all sorts of unlabeled
> buttons in the main FB app; could be one of them... Who knows! *shrug*
>
>
> Amy Billman
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> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter:
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Teresa Cochran
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sharing facebook posts
>
> On the regular site, there is a share button for each post. I would think
> that you can do this through the mobile site, m.facebook.com , but I don't
> know if the apps have this facility.
>
> HTh,
> Teresa
>
> "The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham
>
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:
>
>> If anyone finds out how to do this, please pass it along.
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Nicki Keck  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is there any way, via the facebook app or any other apps, to share
>>> one of
> your friends' posts? It is a pain to go to the site on the computer just
to
> find and copy a post you want to share, since I do all my facebook stuff
> via
> the IPhone. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Nicki
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Sharing facebook posts

[Amy Billman]

It's really odd, because sometimes for posts that come from pages that
you've liked, like for a product or service, I've seen that option; but not
always. I don't know what makes it show on the mobile site where other times
it does not.
Meanwhile, I've personally never seen it for individuals' statuses, but I
also know that the mobile site looks different on my phone than it does on
the pc in IE; so it might be an option there. So far, only place I've
noticed it for sure is via the main site. There are all sorts of unlabeled
buttons in the main FB app; could be one of them... Who knows! *shrug*


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sharing facebook posts

On the regular site, there is a share button for each post. I would think
that you can do this through the mobile site, m.facebook.com , but I don't
know if the apps have this facility.

HTh,
Teresa

"The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham

On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:51 AM, Jennie Facer wrote:

> If anyone finds out how to do this, please pass it along.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 22, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Nicki Keck  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Is there any way, via the facebook app or any other apps, to share one of
your friends' posts? It is a pain to go to the site on the computer just to
find and copy a post you want to share, since I do all my facebook stuff via
the IPhone. Thanks.
>> 
>> Nicki
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Bluetooth Keyboards

[Amy Billman]

Or, you can also simply replace them when the time comes.
Those batteries can last quite a while, though of course, as is with
anything, it's based on how it's used, but most I've known with that
keyboard, it can take anywhere from three-six months to as long as a year
for you to need replacements.
I consider my use to be average, daily, but I use my phone more than the
keyboard, and I've finally had to replace my batteries after almost a year.
BTW: you may already know this; maybe not, but there's a piece that you turn
with a coin or if you have long nails to bet to the batteries. It's on the
side opposite the round button used for turning the keyboard on and off.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards

I see Apple offers their own charger that comes with six or more 
rechargeable batteries. You do not therefore charge the keyboard internally;

you charge using a battery charger and rechargeable batteries.
- Original Message - 
From: "jeffry miller" 
To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Bluetooth Keyboards


Speaking of Bluetooth keyboards. I just got my apple wireless keyboard. And 
I paired with the iPad. Just was wondering how do you recharge this 
keyboard. I don't seem to see the court in the box. Anyone can give me a 
hand I will greatly appreciated. Thank you very much

jeffry miller

On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

> I have two keyboards in mind. I have the one you can buy from:
> www.speeddots.com
> Or you can order the verbatim keyboard from Amazon or from your local 
> Radio Shack. the one from Speed Dots is a mini keyboard where the F and J 
> keys are marked. The Verbatim keyboard is a larger keyboard that folds in 
> half. I have both of these keyboards, and I wouldn't part with either of 
> them. If you need any
>
> Sent from my iPhonmore info, please feel free to write me.
>
> Jenn
>
> On Jul 22, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Samara Raine  wrote:
>
>> Do any of you guys know of any portable bluetooth keyboards that can 
>> either attach to my phone or be used separately? I'm looking for one 
>> that's small enough to take everywhere but still large enough to make 
>> typing on the keys simple. I don't mind thumb typing if I must. I can 
>> always get a larger keyboard for home use. But I'd like the keys to be 
>> well defined. Marked keys, perhaps F and J or at least marking of the 
>> five key would be ideal.
>>
>> Samara
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RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps

[Amy Billman]

I think this scanning apps discussion is very interesting.
I am one of those who could not get prismo or Saytext to work at all, but
can with Text Detective.
I suppose that really it all comes down to, (just like with anything else,)
what works for one isn't always going to work for another.
Meanwhile, am I the only one who wishes that if they bought an app and
didn't like it or it didn't work for them, but maybe it would work for
someone else, that they could gift their coppy to them? At least then your
money isn't going to waste. *smile*
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Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
Vashaun, I think that any scanning app that requires us to tap the "start
scanning" button while simultaneously attempting to  hold the camera steady
and straight is not considering the needs of those of us who are totally
blind. It may work if you have enough vision to help you align, but it sure
isn't working for me! I am sorry I bought it.  What scanning success I have
had has been with either Prizmo, where one can use one's voice to activate
the camera shutter, or SayText, where I can tap the button prior to raising
the camera.
 
Sandy
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of VaShaun Jones
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps
 
How many times have you wished that there was a good OCR solution for your
IOS device? Well, the latest OCR app to hit the Apple IOS AppStore just may
be what you have been waiting for.
 <http://www.fedoraoutlier.com/the-sherlock-holmes-of-ocr-apps-2/#more-615>
The Sherlock Holmes Of OCR Apps- Full Article
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RE: Removing the Stocks Folder:

[Amy Billman]

It's my understanding too, that you cannot remove any of the folders that
come with the phone.
I've seen others make a folder and call it unused or something like that,
move all that stuff into it, and put it somewhere so it's not a bother.
Now, I don't know if you can jail break and if that will enable you to
remove such things.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of CD
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing the Stocks Folder:

I don't believe you can remove any folders that came with the phone.  I wish
we could as well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Don Moore
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Removing the Stocks Folder:

I would like to remove, among other things, the stocks folder and the
pictures folder from my iPhone 4S.

While I found many of my applications in the settings area, I didn't find
those and haven't been successful in removing it using the other method
suggested the other day.

Is there a reason why these folders either can't or shouldn't be removed?

Thanks in advance. 

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RE: typing with fleksy

[Amy Billman]

I have personally found that the combination of Fleksy with the tactile
screen protector increases productivity, not decreases it.
Because you already have a means of knowing exactly where the letters are in
space on the keyboard, by touch, when you type with Fleksy using your
tactile screen protector, you'll increase your chances of being able to
quickly have words recognized.
At least, this has been my own personal experience, and the types of
customer feedback that I've received since the release of this app.
Every user is going to have a different experience as is with *everything*,
but that's the data we've gleaned from personal use as well as outside
sources.
Just chiming in on an old topic.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of kb5...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: typing with fleksy
 
And this statement Chuck makes is the key, folks. "remember, do not wait for
the letter to be spoken". 
 
Once I got this down, my typing increased to three times the speed it is
with using th regular iPhone keyboard and twice as fast as using type in
Braille.
 
Again, though Fleksy is not a perfect app, I am extremely impressed!! Kudos
to the developers!
 
 
From: Chuck Dean <mailto:cadean...@gmail.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: rilni...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: typing with fleksy
 
  The Fleksy key board is larger than the iPhones standard key board so the
tactile screen protector will not be helpful when typing with Fleksy. Ignore
it.
Once you are used to Fleksy typing will be so much faster than it was with
the tactile screen protector.

remember, do not wait for the letter to be spoken. Just approximate where
each letter would be, then flick right to hear the word. If it is not the
correct word, flick down until the correct word is spoken. Then continue
typing.

Chuck


On Wednesday, July 18, 2012 3:28:16 PM UTC-7, Rebecca Ilniski wrote: 
Hi all.  I was away and got home and downloaded fleksy.  I did listen to 
the podcast and get the general concept of how it works.  The issue I'm 
having is spacial relationships I can understand and know how to type on 
the regular keyboard.  Anyone have any tips for getting this down? I do 
have the tactile screen protector on my phone and will play with this 
more as it really is a neat app.  Any tips would be appreciated. 
-- 
Rebecca and Zeb 
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facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 
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RE: Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone [was "Re: Backup batary and keyboard for iPhone 4S"]

[Amy Billman]

That is the exact keyboard.
I believe the people at A T Guys have also got a manual on their web site.

It is the exact same keyboard that you can get from the guy in the UK if you're 
talking about Computer Room Services.
Unfortunately, anyone outside of the US cannot get it from any US sellers, 
which includes AT Guys. we have new postal regulations that prohibit anything 
with internal lithium iON batteries being shipped internationally via USPS. 
This however does not extend to shippers such as UPS or Fedex, but such 
shipping costs would be really expensive and likely more than what the product 
is worth.
You can read more about it here:
http://about.usps.com/news/service-alerts/international-updates.htm


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone [was "Re: Backup batary and 
keyboard for iPhone 4S"]

As I said, it seems to be the same keyboard sold by SpeedDots. On their
site is this link to the users manual for the keyboard, which is full of
good information and a good description of this keyboard.

On their
On 17/07/12 02:36, Rob Harris wrote:
> I'm told that is a riitek,  is that right? would someone like to describe it 
> in detail, or point to a link that does please.
> 
> I have to buy in the UK, so need to know what I'm buying up front.  No! not 
> happy with the local suppliers description of the product he is charging £30 
> for, I reckon that's nearly $50, I don't know how much you pay for it over 
> there.
> 
> RobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone [was "Re: Backup batary and 
> keyboard for iPhone 4S"]
> 
> 
> BTW, I think this is the same keyboard offered by SpeedDots.
> 
> 
> On 16/07/12 20:55, Hank Smith wrote:
>> have u checked out the one from at guys?
>> http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=17&products_id=94
>>
>>
>> On 7/16/2012 6:46 PM, Can Kırca wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for wireless/bluetooth keyboard for my device.
>>> Regards.
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:34 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone [was "Re: Backup batary and
>>> keyboard for iPhone 4S"]
>>>
>>> What are you looking for in a keyboard? Do you want a portable
>>> keyboard or a desktop keyboard? I recently just got the Verbatum
>>> keyboard. I got it at Radio Shack, but I did see it on Amazon.
>>>
>>> It folds in half, and even so, it's still a bit chunky, but when
>>> folded out, it does lock in place and pretty much let's you touch
>>> type. The numbers still trip me up since the #1 through #5 keys are
>>> shifted a bit to the right. The 'b' and the 'v' keys straddle the fold
>>> in the keyboard, so the 'b' key is a bit more of a reach than usual,
>>> but other than that, like I said, I can pretty much touch type on it.
>>> It also has a few IOS specific keys, like the home key, the options
>>> key and probably more that I can't think of at the moment.
>>>
>>> I got it so I had something I could use when typing a lot on the
>>> iPhone when traveling. I have an old Rocketfish desktop keyboard
>>> (which I don't think is sold anymore) that I can use at home, and I
>>> don't mind using dictation or the virtual keyboard when out and about,
>>> but when traveling, I figured it would be nice to take something small
>>> along that I could pull out in a hotel room and do some typing. Maybe
>>> it'll encourage me to leave the laptop behind when vacationing!
>>>
>>> On 16/07/12 20:20, Can Kırca wrote:
>>>> Hi Listers,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to buy a keyboard and external power unit for my iPhone 4S,
>>>> could you recommend afiew products from Amazon or ebay?
>>>> I found at SpeedDots, but there are not ship to our cou

Regarding complaint/accusation of treating the list as buy/sell/trade.

[Amy Billman]

It's an announcement. Simple as that. It is not a products for sale or
classified ad.
If list moderators prefer that I do not do this, please afford me
professional courtesy and contact me off list.
If that does happen, then by all means, I will not post such announcements
in the future.
I have purposefully made it a point *not* to clutter the list with traffic
that involves marketing/sales of any kind.
I am posting from my personal account, yes, at times making announcements
for my company, but I am not here to market products; which is why I also
participate on the list in ways that have absolutely nothing to do with the
products that we sell.
If someone happens to ask a question on list about our products, I am not
going to not answer them or provide them support if needed; though I will
ask that in future, in light of this statement, that unless you feel that
your question would be of benefit to list members on the whole, that you
email me off list, or via our web page by using the "contact us," form.
Griping and complaining adds clutter to a list that already has heavy
traffic, and I do not want my company or similar postings to create more
such traffic.


Regards:

Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Coupons still Active.

I don't think this is a buy/sell list, and I think mentioning coupons
like this that everyone on the list can take advantage of isn't any
different than people pointing out when accessible apps become free in
the App Store or go on sale. In my mind, this is a lot different than
someone mentioning they have an iPhone 4 or a Verbatum keyboard for
sale, which I wouldn't want to see on the list, but that's obviously up
to the moderators.

On 16/07/12 11:54, Fred Olver wrote:
> I hate to be a stick in the mud, however I didn't realize this was a
> buy/sell list, if so, may I also post something?
>  
> Fred Olver
>  
> 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Amy Billman <mailto:amy0...@gmail.com>
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2012 10:00 AM
> *Subject:* RE: SpeedDots Coupons still Active.
> 
> Hi, Stacey,
> 
>     Both of these coupon codes will be active through the end of the week.
> 
>  
> 
> Amy Billman
> 
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory
> needs!
> 
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> 
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> 
> Follow us on Twitter:
> 
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> 
> Like us on Facebook:
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
> 
>  
> 
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Stacey Robinson
> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2012 7:32 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: SpeedDots Coupons still Active.
> 
>  
> 
> Amy,
> 
> How long are these active?
> 
>  
> 
> On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Amy Billman wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello all!
> 
> some of you have already taken advantage of our convention coupon
> codes, but for those of you who haven't, or for those interested in
> purchasing products, there's still time to receive a 15 percent
> discount off of anything that you purchase in our online store.
> 
> This includes all tactile screen protector products, as well as all
> cases and accessories, including external batteries and mini
> bluetooth  keyboards.
> 
> To receive your discount, use coupon codes NFB12 or ACB12 at checkout.
> 
>  
> 
> Hope all are having a wonderful day!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Amy Billman
> 
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory
> needs!
> 
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> 
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> 
> Follow us on Twitter:
> 
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> 
> Like us on Facebook:
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
> 
>  
> 
> 
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RE: SpeedDots Coupons still Active.

[Amy Billman]

Hi, Stacey,
Both of these coupon codes will be active through the end of the week.
 
Amy Billman
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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Coupons still Active.
 
Amy,
How long are these active?
 
On Jul 16, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Amy Billman wrote:



Hello all!
some of you have already taken advantage of our convention coupon codes, but
for those of you who haven't, or for those interested in purchasing
products, there's still time to receive a 15 percent discount off of
anything that you purchase in our online store.
This includes all tactile screen protector products, as well as all cases
and accessories, including external batteries and mini bluetooth  keyboards.
To receive your discount, use coupon codes NFB12 or ACB12 at checkout.
 
Hope all are having a wonderful day!
 
 
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
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RE: Fleksy & Self-Marketing

[Amy Billman]

My concern with that is if it can't be turned off somewhere in the app's
settings, anyone who decides to send an email of a professional nature using
it will make themselves look very bad.
It doesn't look professional from an employer perspective, or in the least
bit cute; never mind nobody's going to know what in hell a Fleksy is.
I won't get started on professional looking email addresses because that
wasn't the point of this topic, but I'll just say that this goes hand in
hand with that...
I do think it showing your phone number could very well have to do with the
setting that speaks to communicating with other fleksy users. I believe, but
am not sure, that if you disable that option in settings, it might not show
your phone number...
I don't know if it also disables its ill attempt at marketing/self promotion
as well.
But that was my first thought... A huge turn off unless that can be
disabled.
The technology is neat, and Apple will steel it some day and implement such
an auto correct system, and when it does, it will be fabulous!
IMO there needs to be such an auto correct with the iPhone, without the
added annoyance of having to be dependent on another app to get it;
especially not one with such a price tag.
I do recognize however that with the development that went into the app,
that such a price point from a business perspective would have been more
than necessary in order to make some profit off what would have been a very
hefty development cost.

Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neil Barnfather - TalkNav
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; The Accessible Phones Discussion List
Subject: Fleksy & Self-Marketing

All,

Have you noticed how if you send an e-mail from Fleksy or a SMS text
message, if you've not inserted your phone number or e-mail into settings,
it shamelessly advertises itself, or certainly, from the postings I've seen
on list, appears to.

I'm just wanting to check if I'm right before I make a fuss of this, but, if
it is the case, I'm not especially impressed with this policy, its not a
free product, its charged and a relatively high charge at that. Not to say
its not worth it, I happen to think its amazing and to coin Apple,
revolutionary, but, this sort of marketing tactic is usually reserved for
free or lite apps, not charged full ones.

I also do not like the way it inserts my e-mail address or phone number if I
have added these to settings.


Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
Twitter @neilbarnfather

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RE: Speed dots Micro keyboard

[Amy Billman]

Hi Jennie,

I've been out of pocket and am just now seeing this email.
Your order was shipped, and in the email that I sent to you this morning,
there is a link for our manual that goes in detail about the buttons and
what they do. Pairing is easy and the button is obvious however.
What I mean by obvious, is that it's a big button on the under side of the
keyboard. :-) The manual also has detailed pairing instructions.
It may be easier to understand when you have the physical unit in your hand.

Please let me know if you have any questions.



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Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Speed dots Micro keyboard

Can anyone tell me a little bit about this keyboard? Is it easy to pare? Do
you use it kind of like an Apple keyboard?

Thank you so much!

Jenn



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RE: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

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You can select landscape or portrait in its settings.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of RDLAW
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store

the one thing the notes do not say is the position the phone should be when 
using this app.
- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Dean" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: Fleksy is now available in the App Store


> Hi all,
>
> I am typing this with Fleksy, and I have to say I am pretty impressed!
>
> It does take a little time to get the hang of it, but I was typing quickly

> in about 10 minutes. End I seem to get faster and faster.
>
> Two things to know, if you are using a blue tooth headset, you can hold 
> your hand over the screen to have your text read back to you, and be 
> careful not to go to high on the screen when swipeing or you May engage 
> the notification center.
>
> Have fun!
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RE: Otterbox cases and dot covers

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Hi rob,
I don't know if this will help you regarding your adhesive, but sometimes
you can give it more life so-to-speak by applying it on a steamy surface.
Since these are standard screen protector material, we've read up on online
forums where folks have applied and re-applied their screen protectors; and
if your surface is just lightly wet, you can often get it to stick again.
We've also had customers say that they have washed them and managed to
re-stick them.
My point is, that it never hurts to google tips and tricks about re-applying
your clear plastic screen protector. There's some interesting methods out
there.
Just thought I'd share!

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Otterbox cases and dot covers

Well, duly impressed.  I had the Otterbox Impact arrive today.  I also dug 
out the speeddots cover which I'd got disillusioned with.  Put it on and off

so often trying to get it on straight, it had long since lost adhesion. 
Labels work well as they're a plastic faced paper backing and you get to 
line it up before committing the adhesive.  Still, I extracted the 3GS out 
the Defender it lived in, fiddled with this Speed Dots cover until it was 
finally in the right place, all be it peeling anywhere I touched it.  Then I

tried a bit of ingenuity in how I put the phone to the new caseand 
got the whole thing in with one try and without lifting any of the loose 
corners.  The Impact case is very neat, it's the padded shoulders I think 
are the most effective, but it holds the darned dots thing down so well, 
I'll get to use it properly now.

So well done for recommending the Impact and will now join the endorsement 
for that model.

Thanks, RobH, R! 

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RE: iPod Touch

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Sometimes the white ones are inaccurately titled as iPod touch 5th
generation, but there's not actually a 5th. If Apple does release one, that
will be the name of the next generation of iPod Touch most likely.
So cool when vendors mistitle things and cause confusion. LOL

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPod Touch

Likewise, I never heard of one.  I'm hoping a new generation of the Ipod 
touch will come out later this year.

-Original Message- 
From: Tara Prakash
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPod Touch

I think there is some genuine confusion of terminology. I never saw a fifth
generation iPod touch.
- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: iPod Touch


> In that case, I'll wait and hope for a 6th generation.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Barbara Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPod Touch
>
> Have been told only difference is it comes preloaded with IOS5 and in a
> choice of white or black.
>
> Barbara
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPod Touch
>
> Do you know what the differences are?
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Barbara Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPod Touch
>
> Around October 2011 I think.
>
> Barbara
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 3:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPod Touch
>
> When did the ipod touch fifth Generation come out?
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Barbara Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPod Touch
>
>
> Hi
>
> Can anyone tell me, apart from coming preloaded with IOS 5, is there any
> difference between the iPod Touch 4th and fifth Generation?
>
> Thanks.
> Barbara
>
>
>
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RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

I've seen people drop their 4 and 4s in a parking lot and crack the glass.
Security blanket or not, glass is glass. And if you don't have Apple care,
they do nothing for that.
Sure, it does take just the right fall to crack it or scratch it, but it's
still very much possible.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

The screen is made of Gorilla glass, a special scratch resistant glass made 
by Corning.  screen protectors may be a kind of security blanket, but are 
not necessary as far as protection is concerned.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

I've come to the conclusion that the iPhone is very-well made. In fact,
I've seen people drop their phones with no protection and rarely a
scratch. This is the 4 and 4S I'm talking about. However, glass being
glass, if hit in just the right angle and right way, still can shatter.
I wonder if the cases out there are more for show than for protection,
but still, if it gives someone piece of mind, then they should get the
best protection out there. If even one tiny scratch appears on the
phone, you will easily lose $100 value when and if you try to resell it.
When I had the 3GS phone it lived inside the Otter Box Defender case for
99% of its life, but I find with the 4S, that I'm not as paranoid. Not
only that, but I want to have colorful cases and cases which show off
the iPhone rather than hiding it. The TPU cases I mentioned are colorful
and have either an s-pattern or circle pattern in back which go nicely
with the over all design of the phone, and they provide some protection
against dropage as well.

That's my take on all this for what it's worth.

--
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On 7/10/2012 11:06 AM, Tara Prakash wrote:
> The other day someone tried to shoot iPhone with a shortgun and couldn't
> make a hole in the phone. Do we really need to defend the phone that
> much? I am happy with a screen protector, so what am I missing by not
> having a defender? Is it a matter of personal choice or these cases are
> really advisable?
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case
>
>
> Hi, actually neither. But not because I don't like Otter Box. In fact, I
> highly recommend them. I'm just a person who is a free spirit and likes
> trying new things and different things to experiment. So, I'm currently
> using some cases which are made of a tpu rubber, this is a bit of a
> harder rubber, and doesn't feel like the silicon rubber that the Impact
> case feels like. This means less friction, but also less catching on
> things like in the pocket. It also means a bit of less bulk. In fact, I
> just got an order for 9 tpu cases which are all different colors ranging
> from purple, to blue, to clear, to neon yellow. They don't cover the
> bottom part of the screen like the impact case from Otter Box does, but
> it does form-fit the phone very well and really let's it shine through.
>
> The nice thing about these cases is that you can put them on and take
> them off with ease, yet they stay on the phone very nicely. I also like
> the fact that I can go back to my impact case whenever I want. The one I
> don't use any more is the Defender case. I finally got tired of the
> bulk, but again, this isn't anything bad against Otter Box, since that's
> the purpose of the case.
>
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>
>
> On 7/10/2012 10:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> Thanks Raul,
>> Which one do you use?
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, the impact case is less bulky, but I found that it tends to catch
>>> on things due to the nature of the rubber. This doesn't make the case
>>> bad, but it does have a bit of friction. And that can be a good thing
>>> 

RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

The Impact case doesn't require a special one. Just the standard or advanced
model of screen protector for the 4/4s, the one on our site for $7 will do.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

Are their screen protectors for the impact case?

On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Amy Billman wrote:

> Personally, I have the impact, not the Defender. There are a couple of
> reasons, the most important one, being that for me, it's ugly IMO.
> When you have it in the Defender with its belt clip, I feel like a
> construction worker. I know they have all sorts of girly colors, but the
> style/design is just off putting. Plus, I'm careful. I take care of my
> phone; meaning it's either in my purse or backpack or something unless
it's
> in use, and even then I can keep it in my pocket if I have earbuds or
> headphones of some kind.
> So for me because I'm not scaling tall buildings, mountain climbing,
hiking,
> or diving, it's not a need.
> The other thing is I want my bulk to give me something useful. If the
> Defender for example included battery with its bulk, like the juice packs
or
> other similar cases, maybe that would make me change my mind. But it
> doesn't. It provides bulk without a purpose.
> Now, I have a friend who is the mom of a very active six year old boy,
plus
> she breaks stuff; a lot. For her, the Defender is a good choice and she
> loves it because it can take a beating and doesn't impact the phone in any
> way.
> For me, if I'm not using a battery case, I use the impact case. It's thick
> rubber, that the phone just sits in, with the screen exposed. I like it
also
> because if I want to switch cases, it's easy to get in and out. I find the
> Otterbox a project, one that's not worth my time. Just my two cents on the
> subject. *smile*
> 
> 
> 
> Amy Billman
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tara Prakash
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:07 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case
> 
> The other day someone tried to shoot iPhone with a shortgun and couldn't 
> make a hole in the phone. Do we really need to defend the phone that much?
I
> 
> am happy with a screen protector, so what am I missing by not having a 
> defender? Is it a matter of personal choice or these cases are really 
> advisable?
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case
> 
> 
> Hi, actually neither. But not because I don't like Otter Box. In fact, I
> highly recommend them. I'm just a person who is a free spirit and likes
> trying new things and different things to experiment. So, I'm currently
> using some cases which are made of a tpu rubber, this is a bit of a
> harder rubber, and doesn't feel like the silicon rubber that the Impact
> case feels like. This means less friction, but also less catching on
> things like in the pocket. It also means a bit of less bulk. In fact, I
> just got an order for 9 tpu cases which are all different colors ranging
> from purple, to blue, to clear, to neon yellow. They don't cover the
> bottom part of the screen like the impact case from Otter Box does, but
> it does form-fit the phone very well and really let's it shine through.
> 
> The nice thing about these cases is that you can put them on and take
> them off with ease, yet they stay on the phone very nicely. I also like
> the fact that I can go back to my impact case whenever I want. The one I
> don't use any more is the Defender case. I finally got tired of the
> bulk, but again, this isn't anything bad against Otter Box, since that's
> the purpose of the case.
> 
> --
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> How do you write zero in Roman numerals?
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RE: I got a new bt keyboard

[Amy Billman]

Hi, Jessica,

Here is a list. This should help you.

http://www.hllf.net/70


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:18 AM
To: viphone
Subject: I got a new bt keyboard

Hi. I got a new bt keyboard for my iPhone. I am trying to figure 
out how to use it. I got it paired ok. Now I have a few things I 
am trying to figure out. What is quick nav? What is the 
difference between turning it off or on? Also, how do you get to 
the home screen on the keyboard without having to press the home 
button? Can you use the keyboard to get to the app switcher? Is 
there a full list of commands to use with bt keyboards and 
iPhones out there somewhere?  This is just a generic keyboard not 
an apple one. Thank you.

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RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

Yup... and, when my friend's six year old decided to take her phone into the
bathtub with him and send it for a swim, you'd better believe she was damn
happy to have it in the Defender case. LOL
And I do suppose if I had kids my case choices might be a lot different. :-)

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

Fascinating summary,   and as you suggest, it's courses for horses.
- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amy Billman" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: OtterBox impact case


Personally, I have the impact, not the Defender. There are a couple of
reasons, the most important one, being that for me, it's ugly IMO.
When you have it in the Defender with its belt clip, I feel like a
construction worker. I know they have all sorts of girly colors, but the
style/design is just off putting. Plus, I'm careful. I take care of my
phone; meaning it's either in my purse or backpack or something unless it's
in use, and even then I can keep it in my pocket if I have earbuds or
headphones of some kind.
So for me because I'm not scaling tall buildings, mountain climbing, hiking,
or diving, it's not a need.
The other thing is I want my bulk to give me something useful. If the
Defender for example included battery with its bulk, like the juice packs or
other similar cases, maybe that would make me change my mind. But it
doesn't. It provides bulk without a purpose.
Now, I have a friend who is the mom of a very active six year old boy, plus
she breaks stuff; a lot. For her, the Defender is a good choice and she
loves it because it can take a beating and doesn't impact the phone in any
way.
For me, if I'm not using a battery case, I use the impact case. It's thick
rubber, that the phone just sits in, with the screen exposed. I like it also
because if I want to switch cases, it's easy to get in and out. I find the
Otterbox a project, one that's not worth my time. Just my two cents on the
subject. *smile*



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

The other day someone tried to shoot iPhone with a shortgun and couldn't
make a hole in the phone. Do we really need to defend the phone that much? I

am happy with a screen protector, so what am I missing by not having a
defender? Is it a matter of personal choice or these cases are really
advisable?


- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case


Hi, actually neither. But not because I don't like Otter Box. In fact, I
highly recommend them. I'm just a person who is a free spirit and likes
trying new things and different things to experiment. So, I'm currently
using some cases which are made of a tpu rubber, this is a bit of a
harder rubber, and doesn't feel like the silicon rubber that the Impact
case feels like. This means less friction, but also less catching on
things like in the pocket. It also means a bit of less bulk. In fact, I
just got an order for 9 tpu cases which are all different colors ranging
from purple, to blue, to clear, to neon yellow. They don't cover the
bottom part of the screen like the impact case from Otter Box does, but
it does form-fit the phone very well and really let's it shine through.

The nice thing about these cases is that you can put them on and take
them off with ease, yet they stay on the phone very nicely. I also like
the fact that I can go back to my impact case whenever I want. The one I
don't use any more is the Defender case. I finally got tired of the
bulk, but again, this isn't anything bad against Otter Box, since that's
the purpose of the case.

--
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How do you write zero in Roman numerals?
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 7/10/2012 10:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> Thanks Raul,
> Which one do you use?
>
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>
>> Hi, the

RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

OtterBox makes several different case models; beyond just the Impact and
Defender.
The Defender is bulky and your phone is enclosed in a hard plastic shell
with rubber.
If your phone is enclosed in the OttterBox you have, chances are it's the
Defender.
The Impact is low profile. Your phone sits in the rubber case with the
screen exposed. The rubber covers the sides and bottom.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

Ok. I don't understand. What is the difference between the 
defender and the impact? I thought I had the defender, but now 
after all this talk about different cases, I am not sure. I know 
i have a otterbox but not sure which model. Thanks.

 - Original Message -
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 7/10/2012 11:06 AM, Tara Prakash wrote:
 The other day someone tried to shoot iPhone with a shortgun and 
couldn't
 make a hole in the phone. Do we really need to defend the phone 
that
 much? I am happy with a screen protector, so what am I missing 
by not
 having a defender? Is it a matter of personal choice or these 
cases are
 really advisable?


 - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"
 http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 7/10/2012 10:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 Thanks Raul,
 Which one do you use?

 On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

 Hi, the impact case is less bulky, but I found that it tends to 
catch
 on things due to the nature of the rubber. This doesn't make the 
case
 bad, but it does have a bit of friction. And that can be a good 
thing
 because it won't slide so easily across a surface. I think you 
will
 like the impact if you get it.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 "I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me 
was,
 'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I 
should
 hope not! If I don't want you, why would I want someone like 
you?' "
 - Larry Miller
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 7/10/2012 9:33 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
 Hi all,
 For anyone who has had both the OtterBox defender case and the
 impact case, which is less bulky.
 If using the impact case, can you easily fit your phone into a 
pants
 pocket or purse or bag?
 I'm thinking of ordering one from speed dots.
 Thanks,
 Stacey and GEB dog Chesley.



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RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

Hi Stacey,
I personally have never had them catch on anything and I will run around
with it in my pocket a lot.
That being said, it might help you to actually hold one in your hand to see
if you like the overall feel of it.
I recommend to everyone who comes and asks about cases, that if they can, go
to a cell phone store or somewhere that cells accessories, and feel the
cases.
Nothing replaces holding it in your hand. When we've done conventions, we've
changed the minds of folks who were sure they needed the Defender case, and
then we've also had people who wanted a thinner type skin than the Impact.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

Thanks Raul,
Which one do you use?

On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

> Hi, the impact case is less bulky, but I found that it tends to catch on
things due to the nature of the rubber. This doesn't make the case bad, but
it does have a bit of friction. And that can be a good thing because it
won't slide so easily across a surface. I think you will like the impact if
you get it.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> "I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me was,
'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I should hope not!
If I don't want you, why would I want someone like you?' " - Larry Miller
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
> 
> 
> On 7/10/2012 9:33 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> For anyone who has had both the OtterBox defender case and the impact
case, which is less bulky.
>> If using the impact case, can you easily fit your phone into a pants
pocket or purse or bag?
>> I'm thinking of ordering one from speed dots.
>> Thanks,
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley.
>> 
>> 
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RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

Wow. Did your impact case catch on things in your pocket? That's very
interesting to me.

See, because I'm a tad neurotic, I really don't like the back glass exposed
or not covered at all. Again, that's just me. I'm even neurotic enough to
put one of the back protectors over the glass, which is also then of course
sitting in the Impact case. LOL
I don't know why that back glass being exposed bugs me.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

Hi, actually neither. But not because I don't like Otter Box. In fact, I 
highly recommend them. I'm just a person who is a free spirit and likes 
trying new things and different things to experiment. So, I'm currently 
using some cases which are made of a tpu rubber, this is a bit of a 
harder rubber, and doesn't feel like the silicon rubber that the Impact 
case feels like. This means less friction, but also less catching on 
things like in the pocket. It also means a bit of less bulk. In fact, I 
just got an order for 9 tpu cases which are all different colors ranging 
from purple, to blue, to clear, to neon yellow. They don't cover the 
bottom part of the screen like the impact case from Otter Box does, but 
it does form-fit the phone very well and really let's it shine through.

The nice thing about these cases is that you can put them on and take 
them off with ease, yet they stay on the phone very nicely. I also like 
the fact that I can go back to my impact case whenever I want. The one I 
don't use any more is the Defender case. I finally got tired of the 
bulk, but again, this isn't anything bad against Otter Box, since that's 
the purpose of the case.

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How do you write zero in Roman numerals?
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On 7/10/2012 10:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> Thanks Raul,
> Which one do you use?
>
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>
>> Hi, the impact case is less bulky, but I found that it tends to catch on
things due to the nature of the rubber. This doesn't make the case bad, but
it does have a bit of friction. And that can be a good thing because it
won't slide so easily across a surface. I think you will like the impact if
you get it.
>>
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> "I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me was,
'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I should hope not!
If I don't want you, why would I want someone like you?' " - Larry Miller
>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/2012 9:33 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> For anyone who has had both the OtterBox defender case and the impact
case, which is less bulky.
>>> If using the impact case, can you easily fit your phone into a pants
pocket or purse or bag?
>>> I'm thinking of ordering one from speed dots.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley.
>>>
>>>
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RE: OtterBox impact case

[Amy Billman]

Personally, I have the impact, not the Defender. There are a couple of
reasons, the most important one, being that for me, it's ugly IMO.
When you have it in the Defender with its belt clip, I feel like a
construction worker. I know they have all sorts of girly colors, but the
style/design is just off putting. Plus, I'm careful. I take care of my
phone; meaning it's either in my purse or backpack or something unless it's
in use, and even then I can keep it in my pocket if I have earbuds or
headphones of some kind.
So for me because I'm not scaling tall buildings, mountain climbing, hiking,
or diving, it's not a need.
The other thing is I want my bulk to give me something useful. If the
Defender for example included battery with its bulk, like the juice packs or
other similar cases, maybe that would make me change my mind. But it
doesn't. It provides bulk without a purpose.
Now, I have a friend who is the mom of a very active six year old boy, plus
she breaks stuff; a lot. For her, the Defender is a good choice and she
loves it because it can take a beating and doesn't impact the phone in any
way.
For me, if I'm not using a battery case, I use the impact case. It's thick
rubber, that the phone just sits in, with the screen exposed. I like it also
because if I want to switch cases, it's easy to get in and out. I find the
Otterbox a project, one that's not worth my time. Just my two cents on the
subject. *smile*



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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tara Prakash
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case

The other day someone tried to shoot iPhone with a shortgun and couldn't 
make a hole in the phone. Do we really need to defend the phone that much? I

am happy with a screen protector, so what am I missing by not having a 
defender? Is it a matter of personal choice or these cases are really 
advisable?


- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: OtterBox impact case


Hi, actually neither. But not because I don't like Otter Box. In fact, I
highly recommend them. I'm just a person who is a free spirit and likes
trying new things and different things to experiment. So, I'm currently
using some cases which are made of a tpu rubber, this is a bit of a
harder rubber, and doesn't feel like the silicon rubber that the Impact
case feels like. This means less friction, but also less catching on
things like in the pocket. It also means a bit of less bulk. In fact, I
just got an order for 9 tpu cases which are all different colors ranging
from purple, to blue, to clear, to neon yellow. They don't cover the
bottom part of the screen like the impact case from Otter Box does, but
it does form-fit the phone very well and really let's it shine through.

The nice thing about these cases is that you can put them on and take
them off with ease, yet they stay on the phone very nicely. I also like
the fact that I can go back to my impact case whenever I want. The one I
don't use any more is the Defender case. I finally got tired of the
bulk, but again, this isn't anything bad against Otter Box, since that's
the purpose of the case.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
How do you write zero in Roman numerals?
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


On 7/10/2012 10:44 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
> Thanks Raul,
> Which one do you use?
>
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>
>> Hi, the impact case is less bulky, but I found that it tends to catch on 
>> things due to the nature of the rubber. This doesn't make the case bad, 
>> but it does have a bit of friction. And that can be a good thing because 
>> it won't slide so easily across a surface. I think you will like the 
>> impact if you get it.
>>
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> "I just broke up with someone and the last thing she said to me was, 
>> 'You'll never find anyone like me again!' I'm thinking, 'I should hope 
>> not! If I don't want you, why would I want someone like you?' " - Larry 
>> Miller
>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
>>
>>
>> On 7/10/2012 9:33 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> For anyone who has had both the OtterBo

RE: Revisiting the OtterBox Defender

[Amy Billman]

Hi Suzanne,
 
Unless someone here has actually removed them and has had it go well, I can
tell you it's not going to be an easy process.
Yes, you do want to remove your phone from the case completely.
You then need to remove the screen protector. The Otterboxes are tricky
because you're applying our overlay on top of the plastic sorta screen
protector that comes with the case.
I can tell you that the display (the plastic screen protector on the
Otterbox) does pop in and out. I would recommend popping that out, removing
the overlay and re-sticking it properly, (after insuring the surface is
clean,) and then putting the display back in place in the case. Then, you
can put your phone back in.
 
Hope this helps.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Revisiting the OtterBox Defender
 
Hi again,
 
I mentioned a few days ago that my SpeedDots overlay for the OtterBox
Defender was put on upside down, and Raul sent a very helpful e-mail saying
that it could be reversed.  Having not been the one to put my phone in this
case in the first place, I'm wondering if someone could describe the process
of getting the screen protector off.  Specifically, I know I need to remove
the rubber shell, the outside layer of protection.  But do I need to also
take my phone the rest of the way out of the hard shell case before removing
the SpeedDots overlay?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Suzanne
 
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RE: Why get iPhone and iPad?

[Amy Billman]

There are several programs that you can use for notes, and at least a couple
that I personally use, you can sync them with Dropbox.
The ones that I'm thinking of are Drop Text and nebulous Notes.
I know a few college students in particular that are actually using nebulous
notes for note taking.

But they're not the only programs out there I'm sure.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Why get iPhone and iPad?

How are the college visually impaired students using the ipad as a note
taker? i.e. what program are they actually writing in?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Why get iPhone and iPad?

I own both, and what I use depends on what I'm doing.
I still gravitate to my iPhone because it's small enough and I can hold it
in my hand.
That being said, I love typing on the iPad over the phone because of the
bigger keyboard.
So it's great for couch surfing. LOL
It's lighter than any netbook or laptop, (at least the ones that I've
owned,) so when I've gone out of town, I take the iPad, my phone, and a
bluetooth keyboard; because if you're having lengthy email or IM
conversations, it's easier still to do all that typing on a keyboard to save
time on occasion.
The iPad speaker is better for streaming.
iBooks on the iPad is a beautiful experience, and some of the native iPad
apps for recipes are made even better by the bigger screen.
But really, despite all that, I'm not sure I'd own one as a blind person
were it not necessary in order to properly test out our screen protectors;
unless I were a college student. Then, I would be on Rehab's bureaucratic
butt to buy me one, since it's cheaper in the long run than the over priced
note takers.

I'm not really sure why if you cannot see the screen beyond wanting a note
taking/ebook reading solution for school, people tend to own both unless
they just love techy toys. The visual appeal of all that screen real estate
and having their apps in HD, is not something that the average person who is
sight impaired can benefit from unless they have quite a bit of sight.
Just, my two cents; or more accurately, it's probably only worth about one.
:D

Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why get iPhone and iPad?

Bigger screen means bigger keyboard, mrs is sighted and does the pad on her
lap in the arm chair;  the phone goes out and about. She's into jigsaw 
puzzles and there's tons for the pad;   could be vGood for other games too; 
but phone is still the everywhere work horse.
- Original Message -
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: Why get iPhone and iPad?


Hi,

I've heard of folks getting both, but I'm not sure why.

Does the iPad offer somethings more or different? I can perhaps understand
low vision folks benefitting from the larger screen for more or larger text.

I'm just curious; I'm certainly open to getting an iPad, too, if it provides
something additional or different from iPhone.

Thanks. Keith

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RE: Description of the Otter Box Impact case - Was SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Thank you Raul!
Somehow I missed this in the thread.

That was a very accurate description. :-)
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Description of the Otter Box Impact case - Was SpeedDots Otter
Box Defender Question

Raul,
That helps a lot.
Thanks,
On Jul 9, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

> Hi Stacey, the Impact case is a rubber case which protects the sides, and
back of the iPhone. It has a slot for you to be able to toggle the mute
switch. It has cut outs for the usb charger and the audio headphones. It has
rubber buttons for the sleep button and the volume buttons. Also, the front
of it covers the top and bottom part of the screen. So the entire home
button along with the area to the left and right and below is also covered.
The rubber is kind of thick and offers good protection against impact, hens
the name I'm sure. It doesn't cover the screen, but if you have a screen
protector such as one from Speed Dots, it will work nicely. It also has a
cut out in the back for the camera and a round one to show off the Apple
logo.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> At what point in history did cat-skinning become so popular that more than
one method was necessary?
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
> 
> 
> On 7/9/2012 6:58 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> Amy,
>> Can you describe to me what the otterbox impact case looks like?
>> I already have the defender case for my iPhone 4s.
>> Thanks,
>> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Amy Billman wrote:
>> 
>>> You do not have to cut them for the 4.
>>> The only customers that we have had cut them for the 4, are those who
really
>>> did not want to spend the extra $3 US.
>>> Because there are no OtterBox protectors for the 3gs, those and only
those
>>> would have to be cut to fit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Amy Billman
>>> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory
needs!
>>> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
>>> http://www.SpeedDots.com
>>> Follow us on Twitter:
>>> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
>>> Like us on Facebook:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
>>> Of Rob Harris
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:08 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>>> 
>>> If we have to start cutting it, it ceases to be worth buying
>>> 
>>> Thanks, R!since how can we  cut to line up the dots to the virtual keys?
>>> the whole purpose of buying is for that.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has
its
>>> own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed dots
screen
>>> protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will need to be cut
so
>>> that the top and bottom portions of the protector itself are no longer
>>> there. I hope this makes sense.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent from my brain
>>> http://www.raulgallegos.com
>>> Twitter: @rau47
>>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go
on
>>>> the
>>>> outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from a UK
>>>> supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the phone
>>>> screen
>>>> and under that of the otterbox case.
>>>> 
>>>> Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective
dot
>>>> protectors for those?
>>>> 
>>>> I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack
ideas
>>&g

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Thank you, Dianne. I'm glad you didn't have any trouble.
You should have a shipping email by the way...

Yes, that would also work well too re: the sunglass cleaner. I've used a
solution of vinegar and water also if I have made some to clean windows and
such.
You just don't want anything that is going to leave a residew behind, but
will get off the gunk that always seems to accumulate despite how clean a
person you may be. haha


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Thank you for the suggestion, Amy. I have also used a soft cloth with a
little of the stuff I used to clean my  sun glasses when they get gunky
which has helped as well. By the way, I just ordered some items from your
Speed Dots and was very impressed at how nicely your web site worked for me.
Thanks again.

Dianne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Dianne,
Even the OtterBox cases can get gunky. A little Windex on a paper towel or
even an alcohol wipe can work wonders!
They don't damage the case or any tactile screen protector/s, and you don't
need a lot of it. I've also personally used Clorox wipes if that's what I've
got nearby.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Thanks so much. I am going to look at that site again. The case I have is
one I purchased with the phone and covers the back and edges of the phone,
but not the front. I bought an OtterBox case into which I can slide the
phone, but it is a royal pain you know where when you need to get at your
phone in a hurry. The other thing which bothers me is that when the face of
the phone gets dirty, I don't like the feel of it and I am always cleaning
it on my pants or something to get rid of the offending gunk. I know. I am
kind of funny about such things, but that's how it is.

Dianne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Dianne,
Yes,you can buy just the case without the screen protector with dots.

On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:

> Is it then possible to just purchase the OtterBox to protect the 
> screen without the speed dots? So far, I am managing the screen 
> without help, but I would certainly love some way to protect the face 
> of
my phone.
> 
> Dianne
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
> 
> Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has 
> its own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed 
> dots screen protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will 
> need to be cut so that the top and bottom portions of the protector 
> itself are no longer there. I hope this makes sense.
> 
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent from my brain
> http://www.raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47
> 
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
> 
>> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go 
>> on the outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent 
>> from a UK supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on 
>> the phone screen and under that of the otterbox case.
>> 
>> Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective 
>> dot protectors for those?
>> 
>> I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack ideas

>> next.
>> 
>> Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
>> 

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Yes, the iPhone does have its own learning curve for sure!
I've had mine now for a couple of years, starting with the 3gs and now the
4s, but I can honestly say I hated it at first and wanted to smash it. LOL!
That lasted for about a month.
Before that, I had a Nokia 6620 and then the Samsung Jack; all quite
different from the iPhone.
I was convinced it was perfectly cute, but not functional. Now if it ever
disappeared, I'd be lost. It's my alarm clock, my calendar, and a bunch of
other things.
Never mind the entertainment factor with podcasts, games, pandora, netflix,
etc.

Amy Billman
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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Amy,

The defender I bout at the store with my iPhone, I believe, adds weight to
the phone as well as bulk, and, as you explained, there is no protection for
the screen. Unfortunately, I was used to carrying a small little Nokia, and
the iPhone is just different and still a little awkward to manage, though I
did find a section of my wallet into which my phone does fit quite well. I'm
still learning, and we will get there ultimately. It is just different from
what I have used for many years.

Dianne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

We recommend unless you already have a case, purchasing the protector and
Defender from us directly; that way, we can insure a proper fit.
We measure and cut the screen protector to fit the case, and apply it prior
to sending.
Yes, if you only purchase the protector from us and buy the case elsewhere,
from time to time there may be additional adjustments that need to be made
to the screen protector to make sure it fits. The reason for this, is
because you can buy three different Defender cases from three different
sellers, and two might be the same size, while one is cut differently. This
is a widely published and widely known manufacturing flaw. I've personally
seen it in reviews for that particular case.
While we can measure and cut our screen protectors to fit over the majority
of Defender cases, the occasion might arise where the one you bought from
your cell phone retail store is just a fraction off. This is something
beyond our control, unfortunately.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

As I understand it, the SpeedDots for Otter Box Defender cases are cut to
match the cases.  However, once in a while, adjustments need to be made by
the end user.  If you would rather know for sure that the overlay is a
precise fit, SpeedDots sells the Otterbox Defender with the screen overlay
already on it.

Suzanne

- Original Message -
From: "Rob Harris" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question


> If we have to start cutting it, it ceases to be worth buying
>
> Thanks, R!since how can we  cut to line up the dots to the virtual keys?
> the whole purpose of buying is for that.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>
>
> Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has its
> own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed dots 
> screen
> protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will need to be cut so
> that the top and bottom portions of the protector itself are no longer
> there. I hope this makes sense.
>
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent from my brain
> http://www.raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47
>
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
>
>> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go on
>> the
>> outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from a UK
>> supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct o

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

We do not have them for sale currently in any agencies or retail stores that
sell phone accessories.
If you are interested in purchasing any of our products, and prefer not to
order online if you are paying with a credit card, you may contact me off
list, and I can make arrangements with you to assist you with placing an
order by phone.
Also, if it helps, we also accept PayPal and Google checkout as forms of
payment if entering in your credit card online is a concern.
We are not unfortunately at either of the two big national conventions this
year, those being NFB and ACB, however one of our product resellers A T Guys
is at the ACB convention currently going on in Louisville, so if you are in
the area or know someone who is that can purchase for you, this is also an
option; though I realize that there's only a few more days of convention
left.


Amy Billman
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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:44 AM
To: Christopher Chaltain; viphone
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

I don't know about ordering online. Is there a store that you can 
walk in to and buy them?

 - Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain http://speeddots.com/

Here's what it says about them on their web page:

Our custom screen overlays provide guidance and facilitate 
navigation of
touch screen devices by placing a single dot over each letter and
control, making it easier than ever before for blind and visually
impaired individuals using the Voiceover screen reader to orient 
and
input text and access screen controls quickly and efficiently.

Our standard model of screen protector fits the iPhone 3GS, the 
iPhone4,
and the iPhone4S. It contains a dot on each letter and input 
control,
and costs only $7.00.

We also offer an advanced overlay that contains similar markings 
on the
buttons and input controls, however only the letters F and J on 
the
virtual keyboard contain raised dots. The advanced model also 
costs only
$7.00!

On 09/07/12 02:29, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What tactile guides? How many are there on the screen cover? Is 
there
 one for each button? How would that work because the buttons are 
always
 changing depending on what screen you are on. Where can you get 
this
 tactile screen cover? .

 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Chaltain http://www.raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: @rau47

 On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  
wrote:

 I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots 
cover go on
 the
 outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from 
a UK
 supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the 
phone
 screen
 and under that of the otterbox case.

 Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and 
effective dot
 protectors for those?

 I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery 
pack ideas
 next.

 Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Regina Alvarado" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
 speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because 
this screen
 protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it 
self. This
 means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the 
speed.protector is
 not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention 
would do
 this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn't paying 
attention could do
 this.  Hopefully this explanation adds some clearity  to this 
puzzling
 situation.



 --

 Raul A. Gallegos

 Sent from my brain

 http://www.raulgallegos.com

 Twitter: @rau47


 On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Regina Alvarado" 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Are you kiddingc me!



 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!


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RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Hello, Jessica,
You can purchase them from SpeedDots directly.
Our FAQ might be helpful for answering any questions that you may have; such
as the how and why.
http://www.speeddots.com/faq.php

Please let me know if I can answer any additional questions for you.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

What tactile guides? How many are there on the screen cover? Is 
there one for each button? How would that work because the 
buttons are always changing depending on what screen you are on. 
Where can you get this tactile screen cover? .

 - Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain http://www.raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: @rau47

 On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  
wrote:

 I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots 
cover go on
 the
 outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from 
a UK
 supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the 
phone
 screen
 and under that of the otterbox case.

 Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and 
effective dot
 protectors for those?

 I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery 
pack ideas
 next.

 Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Regina Alvarado" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
 speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because 
this screen
 protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it 
self. This
 means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the 
speed.protector is
 not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention 
would do
 this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn't paying 
attention could do
 this.  Hopefully this explanation adds some clearity  to this 
puzzling
 situation.



 --

 Raul A. Gallegos

 Sent from my brain

 http://www.raulgallegos.com

 Twitter: @rau47


 On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Regina Alvarado" 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Are you kiddingc me!



 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!


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RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Dianne,
Even the OtterBox cases can get gunky. A little Windex on a paper towel or
even an alcohol wipe can work wonders!
They don't damage the case or any tactile screen protector/s, and you don't
need a lot of it. I've also personally used Clorox wipes if that's what I've
got nearby.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Thanks so much. I am going to look at that site again. The case I have is
one I purchased with the phone and covers the back and edges of the phone,
but not the front. I bought an OtterBox case into which I can slide the
phone, but it is a royal pain you know where when you need to get at your
phone in a hurry. The other thing which bothers me is that when the face of
the phone gets dirty, I don't like the feel of it and I am always cleaning
it on my pants or something to get rid of the offending gunk. I know. I am
kind of funny about such things, but that's how it is.

Dianne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacey Robinson
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Dianne,
Yes,you can buy just the case without the screen protector with dots.

On Jul 8, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Dianne B. Phelps wrote:

> Is it then possible to just purchase the OtterBox to protect the 
> screen without the speed dots? So far, I am managing the screen 
> without help, but I would certainly love some way to protect the face of
my phone.
> 
> Dianne
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
> 
> Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has 
> its own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed 
> dots screen protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will 
> need to be cut so that the top and bottom portions of the protector 
> itself are no longer there. I hope this makes sense.
> 
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent from my brain
> http://www.raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47
> 
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
> 
>> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go 
>> on the outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent 
>> from a UK supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on 
>> the phone screen and under that of the otterbox case.
>> 
>> Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective 
>> dot protectors for those?
>> 
>> I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack ideas

>> next.
>> 
>> Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Regina Alvarado" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>> 
>> 
>> Got it.  I have the full Speeddots screen protector.  I bought a 
>> screen protector originally when I got the phone.  My Speeddots fit 
>> right over top and over the whole original screen protector.  Next 
>> new piece of equipment is a extra battery of some sort and maybe a 
>> keyboard.  However, Speeddots helps quite a bit.  Still want Fleksy,
> though.
>> 
>> Reggie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector 
>> speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because this 
>> screen protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face 
>> it self. This means that the top portion and the bottom portion of 
>> the speed.protector is not there. So I can see why somebody who 
>> wasn't paying attention would do this. Or rather, I can see how 
>> someone who isn't paying attention could do this.  Hopefully this 
>> 

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Jessica,
While the OtterBox and its built-in screen protector will protect your phone
quite well, if you want the tactile overlay, it has to be applied on top of
the Defender case since it encloses the phone.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jessica Brown
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

Why would you want to have a screen protector and then another 
screen protector on top of that? Isn't one enough? I am just 
wondering because I have an otterbox defender but i don't have 
any additional screen protectors.

 - Original Message -
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" http://www.raulgallegos.com
Twitter: @rau47

On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  
wrote:

 I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots 
cover go on the
 outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from 
a UK
 supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the 
phone screen
 and under that of the otterbox case.

 Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and 
effective dot
 protectors for those?

 I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery 
pack ideas
 next.

 Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
 - Original Message -
 From: "Regina Alvarado" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
 speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because 
this screen
 protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it 
self. This
 means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the 
speed.protector is
 not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention 
would do
 this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn't paying 
attention could do
 this.  Hopefully this explanation adds some clearity  to this 
puzzling
 situation.



 --

 Raul A. Gallegos

 Sent from my brain

 http://www.raulgallegos.com

 Twitter: @rau47


 On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Regina Alvarado" 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf
 Of Anthony Vece
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:54 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



 Are you kiddingc me!



 Sent from my Verizon iPhone!


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RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

We recommend unless you already have a case, purchasing the protector and
Defender from us directly; that way, we can insure a proper fit.
We measure and cut the screen protector to fit the case, and apply it prior
to sending.
Yes, if you only purchase the protector from us and buy the case elsewhere,
from time to time there may be additional adjustments that need to be made
to the screen protector to make sure it fits. The reason for this, is
because you can buy three different Defender cases from three different
sellers, and two might be the same size, while one is cut differently. This
is a widely published and widely known manufacturing flaw. I've personally
seen it in reviews for that particular case.
While we can measure and cut our screen protectors to fit over the majority
of Defender cases, the occasion might arise where the one you bought from
your cell phone retail store is just a fraction off. This is something
beyond our control, unfortunately.

Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

As I understand it, the SpeedDots for Otter Box Defender cases are cut to 
match the cases.  However, once in a while, adjustments need to be made by 
the end user.  If you would rather know for sure that the overlay is a 
precise fit, SpeedDots sells the Otterbox Defender with the screen overlay 
already on it.

Suzanne

- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Harris" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question


> If we have to start cutting it, it ceases to be worth buying
>
> Thanks, R!since how can we  cut to line up the dots to the virtual keys?
> the whole purpose of buying is for that.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>
>
> Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has its
> own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed dots 
> screen
> protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will need to be cut so
> that the top and bottom portions of the protector itself are no longer
> there. I hope this makes sense.
>
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent from my brain
> http://www.raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: @rau47
>
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:
>
>> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go on
>> the
>> outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from a UK
>> supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the phone
>> screen
>> and under that of the otterbox case.
>>
>> Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective dot
>> protectors for those?
>>
>> I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack ideas
>> next.
>>
>> Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Regina Alvarado" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>>
>>
>> Got it.  I have the full Speeddots screen protector.  I bought a screen
>> protector originally when I got the phone.  My Speeddots fit right over
>> top
>> and over the whole original screen protector.  Next new piece of 
>> equipment
>> is a extra battery of some sort and maybe a keyboard.  However, Speeddots
>> helps quite a bit.  Still want Fleksy, though.
>>
>> Reggie
>>
>>
>>
>>  _
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
>> speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because this screen
>> protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it self. 
>> This
>> means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the speed.protector
>> is
>> not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention would do
>> this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn&#

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

You do not have to cut them for the 4.
The only customers that we have had cut them for the 4, are those who really
did not want to spend the extra $3 US.
Because there are no OtterBox protectors for the 3gs, those and only those
would have to be cut to fit.


Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

If we have to start cutting it, it ceases to be worth buying

Thanks, R!since how can we  cut to line up the dots to the virtual keys? 
the whole purpose of buying is for that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question


Hello. You put on the OtterBox case like normal. The OtterBox case has its 
own screen protector. The next thing you do is put on the speed dots screen 
protector case over it. In order for it to fit, it will need to be cut so 
that the top and bottom portions of the protector itself are no longer 
there. I hope this makes sense.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent from my brain
http://www.raulgallegos.com
Twitter: @rau47

On Jul 8, 2012, at 4:16 AM, Rob Harris  wrote:

> I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go on 
> the
> outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from a UK
> supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the phone 
> screen
> and under that of the otterbox case.
>
> Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective dot
> protectors for those?
>
> I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack ideas
> next.
>
> Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Regina Alvarado" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:51 AM
> Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>
>
> Got it.  I have the full Speeddots screen protector.  I bought a screen
> protector originally when I got the phone.  My Speeddots fit right over 
> top
> and over the whole original screen protector.  Next new piece of equipment
> is a extra battery of some sort and maybe a keyboard.  However, Speeddots
> helps quite a bit.  Still want Fleksy, though.
>
> Reggie
>
>
>
>  _
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>
>
>
> Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
> speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because this screen
> protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it self. This
> means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the speed.protector 
> is
> not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention would do
> this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn't paying attention could do
> this.  Hopefully this explanation adds some clearity  to this puzzling
> situation.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Raul A. Gallegos
>
> Sent from my brain
>
> http://www.raulgallegos.com
>
> Twitter: @rau47
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Regina Alvarado" 
> wrote:
>
> How in the world did they do that? Just looking at Speeddots one can tell
> there is a round circle for the home key and a line opening for the ear
> piece! Duh? Think you are stuck getting another, but I will defer to 
> longer
> users than myself! Sorry this happened.
>
> Reggie
>
>
>
>
>  _
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question
>
>
>
> Are you kiddingc me!
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone!
>
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Suzanne Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I got my new Otter Box case along with a SpeedDots overlay and was quite
> perplexed.  There didn't seem to be any logic to where the dots were. 
> Then,
> after conferring with a friend who has a similar setup, the answer became
> clear:  the Apple Store genius who had put on the SpeedDots overlay had 
> put
> it on upside down.  Is this something I can redo, or do I pretty much need
&

RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

[Amy Billman]

Hi Rob,
The speedDots protector can be cut to fit the OtterBox for the 3GS, but we
personally do not sell them pre-cut to fit that case. The 3gs Defender case
design was such that it required all four sides of the protector be cut in
order to fit over the top, and the fact that there are already
inconsistencies with the OtterBox cases not being uniform, we determined
that it would not be possible or wise to sell them for the Defender case for
3gs.
The Defender cases for the 4/4s are much easier to cut, and are designed
more uniformly; so we can confidently sell them.
I hope this makes sense.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 1:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question

I have Otterbox defender cases on my 3GS, does the speedDots cover go on the

outside?  seems a stupid question, but  the ones I got sent from a UK 
supplier didn't say, and for sure it was not good direct on the phone screen

and under that of the otterbox case.

Ditto my iPad1, also Otterboxed,  so are there suitable and effective dot 
protectors for those?

I got a baby 49key kb,   need to look for UK available battery pack ideas 
next.

Thanks, RobH, or just R! for short.
- Original Message - 
From: "Regina Alvarado" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:51 AM
Subject: RE: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question


Got it.  I have the full Speeddots screen protector.  I bought a screen
protector originally when I got the phone.  My Speeddots fit right over top
and over the whole original screen protector.  Next new piece of equipment
is a extra battery of some sort and maybe a keyboard.  However, Speeddots
helps quite a bit.  Still want Fleksy, though.

Reggie



  _

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



Actually it is possible to put on the OtterBox screen protector
speed.version on upside down. The reason for this is because this screen
protector has been cut shorter to fit over the OtterBox face it self. This
means that the top portion and the bottom portion of the speed.protector is
not there. So I can see why somebody who wasn't paying attention would do
this. Or rather, I can see how someone who isn't paying attention could do
this.  Hopefully this explanation adds some clearity  to this puzzling
situation.



--

Raul A. Gallegos

Sent from my brain

http://www.raulgallegos.com

Twitter: @rau47


On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Regina Alvarado" 
wrote:

How in the world did they do that? Just looking at Speeddots one can tell
there is a round circle for the home key and a line opening for the ear
piece! Duh? Think you are stuck getting another, but I will defer to longer
users than myself! Sorry this happened.

Reggie




  _


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SpeedDots Otter Box Defender Question



Are you kiddingc me!



Sent from my Verizon iPhone!


On Jul 5, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Suzanne Wilson 
wrote:

Hi all,



I got my new Otter Box case along with a SpeedDots overlay and was quite
perplexed.  There didn't seem to be any logic to where the dots were.  Then,
after conferring with a friend who has a similar setup, the answer became
clear:  the Apple Store genius who had put on the SpeedDots overlay had put
it on upside down.  Is this something I can redo, or do I pretty much need
to buy another one at this point?  Thanks for any suggestions.



Suzanne



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RE: Why get iPhone and iPad?

[Amy Billman]

I own both, and what I use depends on what I'm doing.
I still gravitate to my iPhone because it's small enough and I can hold it
in my hand.
That being said, I love typing on the iPad over the phone because of the
bigger keyboard.
So it's great for couch surfing. LOL
It's lighter than any netbook or laptop, (at least the ones that I've
owned,) so when I've gone out of town, I take the iPad, my phone, and a
bluetooth keyboard; because if you're having lengthy email or IM
conversations, it's easier still to do all that typing on a keyboard to save
time on occasion.
The iPad speaker is better for streaming.
iBooks on the iPad is a beautiful experience, and some of the native iPad
apps for recipes are made even better by the bigger screen.
But really, despite all that, I'm not sure I'd own one as a blind person
were it not necessary in order to properly test out our screen protectors;
unless I were a college student. Then, I would be on Rehab's bureaucratic
butt to buy me one, since it's cheaper in the long run than the over priced
note takers.

I'm not really sure why if you cannot see the screen beyond wanting a note
taking/ebook reading solution for school, people tend to own both unless
they just love techy toys. The visual appeal of all that screen real estate
and having their apps in HD, is not something that the average person who is
sight impaired can benefit from unless they have quite a bit of sight.
Just, my two cents; or more accurately, it's probably only worth about one.
:D

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
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Follow us on Twitter:
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Why get iPhone and iPad?

Bigger screen means bigger keyboard, mrs is sighted and does the pad on her 
lap in the arm chair;  the phone goes out and about. She's into jigsaw 
puzzles and there's tons for the pad;   could be vGood for other games too; 
but phone is still the everywhere work horse.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:01 PM
Subject: Why get iPhone and iPad?


Hi,

I've heard of folks getting both, but I'm not sure why.

Does the iPad offer somethings more or different? I can perhaps
understand low vision folks benefitting from the larger screen for more
or larger text.

I'm just curious; I'm certainly open to getting an iPad, too, if it
provides something additional or different from iPhone.

Thanks. Keith

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RE: simplytreet

[Amy Billman]

Hello:
I believe the confusion/misunderstanding is a result of a typing/spelling
error.
I don't think the app is Simplytreet, (with treet misspelled.) I'm wondering
if it's not that the word tweet was typed incorrectly and perhaps it is the
app called Simplytweet?
I searched in the app store, and with google, and it appears that there's a
free and paid version of this app. Price wise the paid doesn't look too bad.
You can see more here:
http://motionobj.com/simplytweet/

I hope that helps to clear up any confusion!



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Of Jon Pierson
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: simplytreet

Hi Stephanie,
I tried searching for "simplytreet" in the U.S. Appstore and found nothing
for iPhone or iPad. I even tried changing the spelling a bit.
Can you give us any more info about this app?

Jon
 

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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 9:01 PM
To: Viphone Email list
Subject: simplytreet

Hi all,
I'd like to draw your attention to a twiter client that is extremely
accessible.  It's called simplytreet and does every thing you could
immagine.
Steph

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Re: Problem With Track This App

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The only time I've had that happen is I've entered an incorrect tracking 
number, or if it's a carrier that doesn't reliably update such as USPS or on 
track. Those don't always update, and this is especially true for on track  

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:18 AM, "CD"  wrote:

> When I first got the Track This App I had no problems with it but the last 
> three times I’ve added a package I’m not getting updates at all.  Have any of 
> you experienced this?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks!
>  
> Carla
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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Hi Suzanne.

Yes, in general whether you're blind and using a tactile overlay, or sighted
and simply want/need to have your phone in an Otterbox Defender case, screen
sensitivity is an issue.
If you go onto Amazon and read reviews of the Otterbox Defender cases,
you'll see many folks complaining about the fact that the built-in screen
protector that's part of the OtterBox case alone, impacts screen
sensitivity.
Any distance from the phone screen itself, is going to effect the overall
sensitivity when it comes to screen contact.
That being said, we sell a lot of the Otterbox screen protectors, so it
doesn't appear to be anything that's a deal breaker for most.
It might be helpful for you if someone on this list who uses the Defender
with our screen protector can weigh in on this discussion to give you a bit
more info about overall screen sensitivity and how they feel it does or does
not impact their use of the phone.
I only can speak for what our customers say and how many we sell. I prefer
not to use that particular case because if I must have bulk on my phone, I
want it to mean something; so I either use a case that will extend my
battery life, or if I want something more low profile, I'll use the Otterbox
Impact which does not require a special cut protector and does not enclose
my phone.
It's personal preference really.

As far as sliding the phone into the belt clip, it's like a holster. You can
put your phone inside its shell in one of two ways; either slide it into the
clip with the screen side facing out or in.
Facing inward, once snapped in place, the phone is completely enclosed and
the screen isn't exposed; so you'd need to slide the belt clip off to use
the phone.
With the screen facing out, of course, if you've got it that way and you're
running around with it on your belt or something and you run through the
bushes, your protector could scratch.
I've seen folks carry it both ways. That again is a preference thing from
what I've noticed.

I'm emailing you off list about the specifics of replacing your screen
protector, because I have some additional questions for you and do not want
to clutter the list unnecessarily.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
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http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 9:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Hi Amy,

I think I would like to try the OtterBox Defender and would love it if you 
could send one of the screen overlays for that particular case.  I just have

two questions:
1.  You said that the case has its own built-in screen protector.  I looked 
online and they referred to it as a membrane that fits over the screen.  I'm

guessing that what that would mean is that, once you put on the SpeedDots 
overlay, you would, in effect, have two screen protectors.  Does that affect

screen sensitivity?

2.  You said that your overlay doesn't peel off the OtterBox because you're 
not sliding your phone in and out of a shell.  Instead, your phone stays in 
the shell all the time.  I understand that, but how then does it fit into 
the belt clip/holster?  I would imagine that the back of the phone would 
slide into the holster, with the screen facing out.  Is that right?

Thanks so much for answering my questions.  I appreciate your time.

Suzanne Wilson

- Original Message - 
From: "Amy Billman" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?


> Hi Suzanne,
>
> Do you know what kind of case it is that you have? What name and who makes
> it?
>
> I can tell you that the screen protectors that we sell to fit over the
> OtterBox Defender cases, are measured and then cut to fit them exactly.
> This works though because of the design of that case. You don't have to 
> take
> your phone out in order to use it, so the screen protector can just fit 
> over
> the top of the case, your phone goes inside; done.
> We've had other customers say similar things about the juice pack cases...
> If you are constantly taking your phone in and out of a case with that 
> kind
> of design, it can cause your protector to peal like that, especially if 
> it's
> not on straight.
> We have only ever tested our screen protectors with one other case and 
> that
> is the Griffin, and our screen protectors will not fit them properly.
>
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
>

RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Hi Peter. I did contact you off list regarding your question.

We will be rolling out our tactile overlays for iPad some time around the
start of conventions or thereabouts. We are doing some major web site
overhauls currently, and we do not as of yet have a set in stone date when
they will be officially for sale, but they are coming very soon!

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Lane
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Amy, Do you carry any overlay products for the iPad?
Pete
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:15 AM, "Amy Billman"  wrote:

> Sandy,
> I type in portrait mode and use one finger.
> 
> 
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sandy Finley
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
> 
> Amy, just how do you type? Do you use one hand or two, one finger or two?
> Do you use landscape or portrait? If you are able to type that well on the
> screen I am interested in how you do it. I'm sure willing to give it a try
> and see if your method works for me!
> 
> Sandy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Amy Billman
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
> 
> I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover
and
> that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
> Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
> Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
> but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
> If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
> They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is
an
> iOS device. *smile* It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth
keyboard,
> especially if I'm sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need
> anymore because of the overlay.
> It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point
is
> affordable where keyboards cost much more.
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rob Harris
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
> 
> I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took
them
> off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
> with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a
good
> pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
> keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
> starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for 
> the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the 
> TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got
quite
> 
> efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app
after
> they wrote it.
> 
> They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them
> and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence
> they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to
> speak.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
> Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
> 
> 
> I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone,
I
> get one of the tactile scre

RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Sandy,
I type in portrait mode and use one finger.


Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sandy Finley
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Amy, just how do you type? Do you use one hand or two, one finger or two?
Do you use landscape or portrait? If you are able to type that well on the
screen I am interested in how you do it. I'm sure willing to give it a try
and see if your method works for me!

Sandy
  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Amy Billman
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover and
that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is an
iOS device. *smile* It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard,
especially if I'm sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need
anymore because of the overlay.
It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point is
affordable where keyboards cost much more.
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took them
off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a good
pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for 
the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the 
TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got quite

efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app after
they wrote it.

They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them
and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence
they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to
speak.
- Original Message -
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?


I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, I
get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot easier
for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions are
probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I would
ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your phone,
has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get off the

phone?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Hi Suzanne,

Do you know what kind of case it is that you have? What name and who makes
it?

I can tell you that the screen protectors that we sell to fit over the
OtterBox Defender cases, are measured and then cut to fit them exactly.
This works though because of the design of that case. You don't have to take
your phone out in order to use it, so the screen protector can just fit over
the top of the case, your phone goes inside; done.
We've had other customers say similar things about the juice pack cases... 
If you are constantly taking your phone in and out of a case with that kind
of design, it can cause your protector to peal like that, especially if it's
not on straight.
We have only ever tested our screen protectors with one other case and that
is the Griffin, and our screen protectors will not fit them properly.

Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Suzanne Wilson
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Hi Amy,

I have a question.  I use a case for my iPhone 4s that has two parts:  a 
hard part that is like a shell into which my phone very snugly fits, and a 
back belt clip that the phone and shell fit into.  It's not an OtterBox, but

it may be similar.  When I bought one of the SpeedDots overlays, it very 
quickly got ruined because the edge chafed against the shell when I slipped 
the phone in and out.  I see that you sell overlays for the OtterBox and 
wonder if you could describe how they differ from your standard ones.  Do 
you know if they work with cases that are similar to the OtterBox as well? 
Thanks.

Suzanne
- Original Message - 
From: "Amy Billman" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?


>I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover 
>and
> that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
> Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
> Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
> but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
> If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
> They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is 
> an
> iOS device. *smile*
> It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard, especially if I'm
> sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need anymore because of
> the overlay.
> It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point 
> is
> affordable where keyboards cost much more.
> Amy Billman
> Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
> SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
> http://www.SpeedDots.com
> Follow us on Twitter:
> http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
> Like us on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Rob Harris
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
>
> I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took 
> them
> off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start
> with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a 
> good
> pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT
> keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the
> starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for
> the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the
> TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got 
> quite
>
> efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app 
> after
> they wrote it.
>
> They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them
> and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence
> they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to
> speak.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
> Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
>
>
> I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, 
> I
> get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it

RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Hi.
Actually, we've managed to isolate all of the issues with pealing.
These are standard clear screen protectors; the exact same that your average
sighted person would use to protect their screen; just with tactile markings
embossed.
If they are applied onto a perfectly cleaned screen, and applied straight,
you have a hell of a time removing them. I speak from personal experience;
having applied hundreds at conventions.
If any screen protector with or without markings is applied correctly, you
need either very long nails or a butter knife to peal up a corner to remove
it.
Also, if you have any clients who are dissatisfied with their product, or
are complaining about the pealing, please take down the web info in my
signature and have them contact us.
We're not a huge company, so customer service is something that we have time
for and understand the importance of. *smile*
I'll work with anyone, but they have to let us know they have a problem with
the product so that we can correct the situation.
 
Take care.
 
 
Amy Billman
Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs!
SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
 
Follow us on Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots
 
Like us on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
Yeh, I thought they were  a really nifty idea when they came out.  When I
got my ITouch no one was selling them so I learned without.  Now I see them
occasionally on clients' IPhones and they drive me nuts, especially when the
thing starts pealing.  I still think they're a great idea, I just think they
lose something in application.
 
Best,
 
Erik Burggraaf
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On 2012-06-13, at 6:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:



I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, I
get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot easier
for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions are
probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I would
ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your phone,
has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get off the
phone?  Thanks for any opinions.
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 
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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

Hi Arnold.
We sell both standard and advanced models of our tactile screen protectors.
Feel free to browse the FAQ on our web site, as well as the product
descriptions.
http://speeddots.com/faq.html
Also, if you have any additional questions that you would like answered, do
not hesitate to either contact me off list, or you may use the contact us
link on our webpage. I'll be more than happy to answer any questions that
you may have.
 
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 4:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
You say you have both models.  Where does one get them?  Also, with this
overlay, can one use the touch typing method, or does the overlay prevent
sliding your finger around until you find the letter?Or perhaps, the overlay
makes it easy to find the letters, so one does not have to slide their
finger to find them?   Tomorrow, I will ask my coworker to show me his phone
with this overlay on it, I do not know which overlay he has.   
 
Thanks.
 
Arnold Schmidt   
- Original Message - 
From: Traci <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
Hello, I had my iPhone4s for several Months before I bought mine tactile
overlay. 
 
I liked my phone before, but now the overlay is pretty handy.  I bought both
models, because I couldn't decide.  I currently have the model on with all
of the keyboard and smooth spots for f&J.  I find myself using the overlay
more for orientation then speed of typing.  It is kind of cool to know
exactly where the send button is or the address bar.
 
:) then there are those spots that I find by accident.  For example, if you
move your finger on the left, just above the keyboard, you'll find yourself
at the start of an email message.  When you're in that app of course.
 
BTW, the overlay has sped up my typing a bit, but I'm spoiled with
dictation.  ;)
 
Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail
 
On Jun 13, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:



Hi,
I've used mine for a year and a half, no pealing at all.
I imagine I could use the phone barebacked but it would be a bit slower at
first.

Jon


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Yeh, I thought they were  a really nifty idea when they came out.  When I
got my ITouch no one was selling them so I learned without.  Now I see them
occasionally on clients' IPhones and they drive me nuts, especially when the
thing starts pealing.  I still think they're a great idea, I just think they
lose something in application.

Best,

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On 2012-06-13, at 6:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:



I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a
phone, I get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot
easier for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions
are probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I
would ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your
phone, has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get
off the phone?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt 

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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

I do like the fact that I can type completely by touch without voiceover and
that I can truly use my phone, without the need of lugging around a
Bluetooth keyboard and that I can type 60 WPM on my iPhone.
Yes I make them and sell them, so this may seem a bit not quite objective,
but we all used them and gave them away for testing prior to selling them.
If they hadn't taken off, we'd have no company.
They aren't for everyone which is quite true, but then again, neither is an
iOS device. *smile*
It's nice to have choices. I love my bluetooth keyboard, especially if I'm
sending a lot of very long emails, but it's not a need anymore because of
the overlay.
It's $7. Most would spend that on a meal or something, so the price point is
affordable where keyboards cost much more.
Amy Billman
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob Harris
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

I bought both, one with lots of dots and one with few;  tried and took them 
off pretty soon and didn't use them since.  You feel about a bit to start 
with, but you get good at hitting the right spot after a while, like a good 
pianist does.  And if you neeed  to write that much, most get a real BT 
keyboard and type on that.  Given the price of those overlays, and the 
starting price of a BT keyboard;  you're half way towards the real kb for 
the cost of those bits of cutout plastic. BGut each to their own;   the 
TypeInBraille has complicated this question a bit too as some have got quite

efficient typists on that and transfer the text to the necesssary app after 
they wrote it.

They might be good for an absolute novice, but most soon grow out of them 
and it has been argued that starting on them only creates the dependence 
they wouldn't otherwise have if they learnt from the beginning as-is so to 
speak.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 11:26 PM
Subject: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?


I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a phone, I 
get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot easier 
for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions are 
probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I would 
ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your phone, 
has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get off the

phone?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

[Amy Billman]

LOL! You're lucky Traci!
My boyfriend who runs the business with me and I of course have the same
iPhone, and use the same screen protector layout, and at times also have our
phones in similar cases.
This means that the only way we can actually tell them apart is by unlocking
the screen and looking at the layout of the home screen.
To make things even more interesting. His mother even though she is sighted,
keeps one of our screen protectors on her phone to use as a marketing tool.
It works surprisingly well. But when we're all together, I've almost left
with her phone instead of mine. Thankfully she doesn't use Voiceover. A very
easy clue. LOL
It would be nice to not have a house full of phones that all look the same.
*smile*
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?
 
Just recently, I've been switching my iPhone cases frequently, and the speed
dots are holding up just fine.  Works well in my odder box and any other
case I've fit on.
 
The overlay is functional, but I think it is just kind of cool.  Lol, I
won't accidentally pick up someone else's phone.
 
Traci
Sent by Macbook Air Mail
 
On Jun 14, 2012, at 6:49 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:



Likewise, I've had one on my Ipod touch almost 2 years without any problems.

-Original Message- From: Jon Pierson
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Hi,
I've used mine for a year and a half, no pealing at all.
I imagine I could use the phone barebacked but it would be a bit slower at
first.

Jon


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of erik burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tactile Screen Overlay, Or Not?

Yeh, I thought they were  a really nifty idea when they came out.  When I
got my ITouch no one was selling them so I learned without.  Now I see them
occasionally on clients' IPhones and they drive me nuts, especially when the
thing starts pealing.  I still think they're a great idea, I just think they
lose something in application.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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On 2012-06-13, at 6:26 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:



I was talking to a coworker today, who recommended that if I get a
phone, I get one of the tactile screen overlays.  He said it makes it a lot
easier for him to know where to touch the screen.  I realize that opinions
are probably as numerous as the number of people asked, but I thought I
would ask anyway.  If you have one, as you have gotten use to using your
phone, has it gotten in the way more than helped?  If so, is it easy to get
off the phone?  Thanks for any opinions.

Arnold Schmidt

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RE: To data plan or not to data plan [was "Re: new to the group and some questions"]

[Amy Billman]

They can. I've personally experienced this.
As soon as you pop your sim card in, you're S O L!

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was "Re: new to the group and
some questions"]

Interesting, but I was under the impression that the carrier can detect
if you've popped the SIM card into a smart phone. I was told this by an
AT&T rep and by someone who got charged for a Blackberry plan when he
popped his SIM card into a borrowed Blackberry.

On 07/06/12 17:02, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Contracts yes, I didn't get this under contract. So, no data plan
required.
> 
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> 
> On 6/7/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
>> I'm confused.  I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required
>> to buy a data plan.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She
>>> has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses
>>> apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times
>>> she can use it to text and make calls all she wants.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal.  
>>> Except Winter and Summer.   And Autumn.
>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>>> I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You
>>>> said "I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't
>>>> going to use it for the web and  email,", but I was thinking, with
>>>> wifi,
>>>> someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to
>>>> get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan.
>>>> He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart
>>>> phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something
>>>> critical here?
>>>>
>>>> On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>>>> Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time.  I just called
>>>>> the number given in the following message, and this is what I was
>>>>> told.
>>>>> First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must
>>>>> buy a
>>>>> data plan for the IPhone.  Apparently, for the android phones, and
>>>>> blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not
>>>>> mean one
>>>>> can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a
>>>>> minimum
>>>>> data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of
>>>>> these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for
>>>>> phone
>>>>> calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data,
>>>>> meaning the web and email.  I can't imagine why one would want a smart
>>>>> phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and  email, being
>>>>> that
>>>>> now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for
>>>>> cheap
>>>>> prices, using a regular phone.  Apparently, their data networks are
>>>>> being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use
>>>>> the simple phones for texting and phone calls.  Oh well, I hoped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Sunday,

RE: To data plan or not to data plan [was "Re: new to the group and some questions"]

[Amy Billman]

As did I. If not, that's a very expensive iPod touch!

Now, if you get it from Craigslist it might be different; though I've known
folks who have stayed hidden under the radar but that it's only temporary.
In other words, eventually the carrier be it aT&T, Verizon, etc, find out
and put the phone on a data plan.

Amy Billman
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Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was "Re: new to the group and
some questions"]

I'm confused.  I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy
a data plan.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
wrote:

> This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an
iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which
require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to
text and make calls all she wants.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal.   Except
Winter and Summer.   And Autumn.
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
> 
> 
> On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You
>> said "I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't
>> going to use it for the web and  email,", but I was thinking, with wifi,
>> someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't
>> need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to
>> get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan.
>> He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart
>> phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something
>> critical here?
>> 
>> On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
>>> Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time.  I just called
>>> the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told.
>>> First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a
>>> data plan for the IPhone.  Apparently, for the android phones, and
>>> blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one
>>> can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum
>>> data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of
>>> these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone
>>> calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data,
>>> meaning the web and email.  I can't imagine why one would want a smart
>>> phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and  email, being that
>>> now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap
>>> prices, using a regular phone.  Apparently, their data networks are
>>> being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use
>>> the simple phones for texting and phone calls.  Oh well, I hoped.
>>> 
>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>> - Original Message - From: "Eric Caron" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM
>>> Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Arnold,
>>> 
>>> If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting
>>> the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver.   AT ant T
>>> allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for
>>> certain services. One is free information.  Another is exemption from
>>> the data plan.
>>> I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for
>>> blind users.
>>> 
>>> I am using the free information service.  I did not use it often as I
>>> preferred Bing 411.  However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so
>>> I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to
>>> use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice,
>>> but an operator takes over if there is a need.
>>> 
>>> The application process is a bit tedious an

RE: split screen on the iPad

[Amy Billman]

Hi.
 
The left side of the screen are your catagories; such as airplane mode,
general, etc.
If you want general for instance, double tap it so that it's selected, and
the right side of the screen will give you all of the options contained
under settings/general.
 
Hope that helps and makes some sort of sense.
That damn split screen was a pain for me at first. *smile*
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robbie Miller
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: split screen on the iPad
 
Hello All:
 
When I go into settings on my iPad, the screen is split, and it's confusing
to me how it works. 
Can anyone explain how to use the split screen on the iPad?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Robbie
millerrob...@comcast.net
 
 
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RE: typing on the phone

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I say if you can use your thumbs like that more power to ya! Mine just
don't' work that way. *smile*
I know plenty of sighted folks who can type with their thumbs, and just as
many that can't.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: typing on the phone

Am I the only blind weirdo that uses thumbs then? LOL I cradle the phone in
the palm of my hands and use my left and right thumbs to type on their
respective side of the keyboard. With key feedback turned off, the process
has gotten smoother.--Joe

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Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: typing on the phone

Hello Sandy, this is a valid question on list and may help others who are in
a similar situation. What I usually do is hold the phone with my left hand
in portrait mode, meaning, right-side-up where the charging port is at the
bottom. With my right hand I use my index finger to type the letters. Since
I have touch typing enabled I simply slide my finger to the letter I want
and then lift up and the letter is entered. I have done the thumb typing at
other times, but that's usually when the phone is in landscape mode, meaning
on its side. For beginners I usually recommend you keep the default tap type
mode so that you have to double-tap the letter after finding it. Meaning, it
behaves just like all other buttons and icons on the screen. If you do it
this way, what you can do is find the letter you want and with your index
still on that letter, tap any other part of the screen with your middle
finger. This is a split tap, and basically acts as a double-tap and the
letter is activated.

I hope this helps.

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On 5/15/2012 6:46 AM, Sandy Finley wrote:
> Greetings. I have just purchased an iPhone and I am finding the typing 
> daunting. I know people do it so I know I will get it. I'd be 
> interested in some advice. What fingers do you type with? Do you use 
> only one finger or do you use one finger on each hand simultaneously? 
> My husband says he uses his thumbs to type on his Droid but I wonder 
> if that is a more sighted approach. I find I want to use the same 
> fingers I read Braille with.
>
> To keep from cluttering the list, feel free to respond to me privately 
> at
>
> finleykn...@gmail.com <mailto:finleykn...@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you.
>
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RE: typing on the phone

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It's always interesting to see how others use their phones.
I for one cannot type with my thumbs. Even when I had my Windows Mobile
phone with a keyboard I could not type with my thumbs.
I'm left handed, so for me it makes more sense to type with my left index
finger.
I couldn't stand the split tap method even as a beginner, and in fact, I had
one of the first 3gs's before they updated the iOS so that touch typing was
an option, and I got rid of it.
Needless to say, I prefer touch typing. For me, I find that the split
tapping actually slows me down. Plus, I type a lot without voiceover
feedback because of having a tactile screen, and I find typing flow is a lot
more fluid.
Obviously that doesn't work for everyone... this is just my personal
preference.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: typing on the phone

Hello Sandy, this is a valid question on list and may help others who 
are in a similar situation. What I usually do is hold the phone with my 
left hand in portrait mode, meaning, right-side-up where the charging 
port is at the bottom. With my right hand I use my index finger to type 
the letters. Since I have touch typing enabled I simply slide my finger 
to the letter I want and then lift up and the letter is entered. I have 
done the thumb typing at other times, but that's usually when the phone 
is in landscape mode, meaning on its side. For beginners I usually 
recommend you keep the default tap type mode so that you have to 
double-tap the letter after finding it. Meaning, it behaves just like 
all other buttons and icons on the screen. If you do it this way, what 
you can do is find the letter you want and with your index still on that 
letter, tap any other part of the screen with your middle finger. This 
is a split tap, and basically acts as a double-tap and the letter is 
activated.

I hope this helps.

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On 5/15/2012 6:46 AM, Sandy Finley wrote:
> Greetings. I have just purchased an iPhone and I am finding the typing
> daunting. I know people do it so I know I will get it. I'd be interested
> in some advice. What fingers do you type with? Do you use only one
> finger or do you use one finger on each hand simultaneously? My husband
> says he uses his thumbs to type on his Droid but I wonder if that is a
> more sighted approach. I find I want to use the same fingers I read
> Braille with.
>
> To keep from cluttering the list, feel free to respond to me privately at
>
> finleykn...@gmail.com <mailto:finleykn...@gmail.com>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sandy Finley, 3 days with an iPhone 4S
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RE: iPhone Charger

[Amy Billman]

Apple has copy protection and they prefer that you use their cables and
chargers and headphones and even the juice pack cases that they sell.
Only problem with that, is that from time to time, whether it's authentic
apple or not, you have that problem, apple's very own copy protection works
against them.
A friend of mine has a Mofi Juice Pack case (the only one Apple claims it
allows you to use with your phone,) and in fact, the only one they sell at
the store. Well, when hers quit working and started giving her that error,
they refused to support it because there's no fixing that bug.
Point is, it doesn't seem to matter whether or not you use official apple or
not; every once in a while, you see that.
This is the first one we've sold with that problem I will say. We do test
everything before we send it out, but nothing's full proof.
And lots of folks buy extra charging cables from Amazon, Ebay, etc, and
those are almost never real; though the instances of problems like this are
extremely rare.
I personally find it disconcerting that my current six-foot non Apple cable
will give me no errors, while my supposedly real one that I got in the box
with my phone from the Apple store, will give me that very same error if I
plug it in. I don't get it.
But tomorrow, it might work just fine. *shrug*
 
 
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Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:42 AM
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Subject: iPhone Charger
 
Whenever you buy electronics to use with Apple products from a source other
than Apple, you are always at risk of the "not supported" message.
I've never had problems with cords, but chargers, external batteries, car
chargers, and so on will work for a while and then become no longer
supported.
I don't know whether Apple does this or not, but it has happened to me more
than once.
 
 
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RE: iPhone charger

[Amy Billman]

Kim,
I have responded to you off list regarding this matter.
 
I know that I have seen that error message on my own iPhone when I'm using
the charger that comes with my phone, but it in my case will generally start
working with a reboot or by unplugging and plugging it back in. It seems
that sometimes even apple has problems with its own products.
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kim Samco
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 10:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone charger
 
Hi,
 
I bought a charger with a longer cord from Speed Dots about 2 months ago and
it's been wonderful until now.
 
I was charging the phone when all of the sudden I heard a message that "this
device is not supported" and that was that.  Now that particular charger no
longer works.  The charger that came with the phone works fine.
 
Any ideas?
 
Kim
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RE: More feedback on speed dots?

[Amy Billman]

Hi Traci,
We recommend to all of our customers whether they purchase directly through
us or one of our resellers to make sure that their phone is completely clean
prior to applying their screen protector.
This applies even for screen protectors without tactile markings. If you put
it on straight, with no corners hanging over, it will last much longer.
Putting it on crooked or onto a screen which is not free of dust, oils, lint
or debris of any kind, will cause it to peel.
We have had customers tell us that they like to switch between their
standard and advanced models, so they'll remove one, clean the phone with
glass cleaner and dry it with the lint free cleaning cloth we provide, and
stick the old one to a shelf or place on their desk, and put on the other
one. This, without having them peel.
Also, if you purchase it from us directly, (I cannot speak for any of our
resellers,) we will replace them if they peel if they peel within a month of
purchasing.
Honestly, if our instructions are followed for insuring screen cleanliness
and it is applied straight, there's no reason why the protector will not
stay in place.
We've had over 1,800 in circulation since July of last year, and very few
replacements.
Also, just FYI: We do tell folks that if they are in any way uncomfortable
with sticking the screen protectors onto their device that by all means,
have someone assist you with this process. It is however, possible to do it
without vision. My partner and I who own the company, as well as a friend of
ours who helps us make them, are all totally blind, and have applied many
screen protectors on iPods and iPhones and done it right the first time.
Point is, it can be done; though I don't blame anyone for not wanting to try
it! *smile*
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More feedback on speed dots?
 
Hi all,
 
I went through some of the viPhone archives and read about folks using the
speed dots screen covers.
 
I was hoping to get some more feedback on the 2 models.  If I understand
them correctly, 1 model has all the letters covered with dots except f&j,
and the other model has f&j covered.  Both models have the other dots
sprinkled around.
 
I'm curious who is using which one and if they feel they are worth it.
 
For those of you using the model where nearly all the letters are covered,
are you able to text without really paying attention to voiceover?  Say for
example, you are in a noisy place.
 
My last concern is the screen placement and longevity.  I read a handful of
messages where folks couldn't get their screens to stick and stay in place.
How annoying for a $10 purchase.  Any further thoughts on this?  Is it a
good idea to take the cover to Verizon and have them fit it?
 
Thanks for the info.  In a perfect world I'd have a braille display, but $10
is far more realistic then $1700.  :)
 
Traci
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RE: new with phone and tactile screen

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Hi Fred.

The tactile markings on our screen protectors are for typing (the locations
where the letters are on the virtual keyboard are marked,) as well as
orientation.
So for example, I have the standard layout on my phone because I do a lot of
typing on my phone, and prefer to not have an external keyboard all the
time.
But when I'm not in text messaging, email, or any other app where the
virtual keyboard is visible, the dots on the screen can also help me quickly
find where a particular folder is on a certain page. So in my case for
instance, because of how I have my phone organized, I know that the
messaging app is located where the letter Q is on the virtual keyboard. If I
don't want to swipe around my screen, I can just go to it. Obviously that's
not something that would apply to everyone, because it's dependent on how
your screen is organized, but that's how I've used it.
In other apps, like Heytell for instance, I use the markings where the
letters are as a means of orienting so that I can quickly find the "select
contacts" button.
If you do use a tactile screen protector, (and perhaps other users can also
attest to this fact,) you really can do such orientation within other aps or
for locations of folders etc on the screen.
Also, standard iPhone controls in both our standard and advanced models are
marked, so for instance, if you're in mesaging, you can easily locate the
compose, send, add from address book, and cancel icons.
As someone who had a hell of a time dragging apps into folders, I also find
that the screen protector helps me for that. It helps me to go straight, and
also I can have a reference point on the screen where the folder I want is
located.

I hope this makes sense.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of fred olver
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 1:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new with phone and tactile screen

I don't use a tactile screen cover, but I'm curious how one is able to 
determine what is on other pages of the screne, or is it just a series of 
reference points for the placement of the apps and the items in the dock?

Fred Olver

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From: "Vicki Meizinger" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: new with phone and tactile screen


> Hi, I have never tried the tactil screen but I just want to say that a

> lot of experience a real learning curve when first starting with the 
> iphone.  I think we push ourselves to know everything, and if you take a 
> relaxed attitude and just take your time, (you will not be the only one, i

> promise) you will learn a lot,and you will love it.  I had a real hard 
> time texting at first, thought I couldn't do it, but now I do it well, 
> though if I were in a speed test, I probably wouldn't win.  There are lots

> of people here to answer questions.  Enjoy.
> Vicki Meizinger
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RE: new with phone and tactile screen

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Hi Judy
 
Many new iPhone users prefer our basic or standard model, because it makes
typing and overall orientation to the screen easier.
If you are still learning your iPhone, the tactile markings can also help
you with swiping straight.
In general, if people come to us as more experienced iPhone users, we
recommend the advanced layout, which has less dots. Also, if folks prefer to
type on an external bluetooth keyboard rather than the virtual one on the
phone, the less dots are helpful.
I've personally demonstrated our tactile screen protectors at conventions
and workshops, and have found that once they can see it on a phone, most
people who have assumed that the more dots would be bothersome, have
actually found them more helpful rather than hindering.
I think it's easy to make an assumption when you can't hold it in your hand.
 
We do tell people that the tactile screen protector is for use in portrait
orientation only, but we've also found that this is the prefered orientation
for most voiceover iPhone and iPod touch users.
 
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Judy Watford
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new with phone and tactile screen
 
Hi,
 
This is my first post. I have Anna's book and am learning my phone very
slowly, but sticking with it even though there times I have thought of
throwing it across the room. (smile)
 
Has anyone used the tactile screen covers from atguys? if so, have you found
them to be helpful?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Judy
 
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RE: new with phone and tactile screen

[Amy Billman]

Ramy,
I also neglected to mention that A T Guys includes all SpeedDots contact
information with screen protector purchases.
Did you contact us via our web site or email address on the business card
provided with your order?
If so, I apologize for any confusion and inconvenience. I have double
checked our records, and do not see any emails from you.
Please let us know if we can be of any assistance to you.
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new with phone and tactile screen
 
Hi:
I have here the 3gs, and it's working ok without the tacktel protectors.
But, I percioused them through the ATI GUYS.
The only comment is that, there reply is so bad, and they didn't responde to
my questions at all.
 
 
 
Cheers:
Ramy Moustafa
Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios
skype:
roma30
Facebook:
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Judy Watford
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new with phone and tactile screen
 
Hi,
 
This is my first post. I have Anna's book and am learning my phone very
slowly, but sticking with it even though there times I have thought of
throwing it across the room. (smile)
 
Has anyone used the tactile screen covers from atguys? if so, have you found
them to be helpful?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Judy
 
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RE: new with phone and tactile screen

[Amy Billman]

Hello!
 
Just to let you know, and to clear up any confusion, SpeedDots is both the
manufacturer and distributor of that tactile screen protector. A T Guys is
one of our many product resellers.
If you have any questions about your tactile screen protector, I will be
more than happy to assist you!
I apologize for any issues that you may have experienced, and will be glad
to look into this for you.
 
 
Amy Billman
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SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector
http://www.SpeedDots.com
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Ramy Moustafa
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new with phone and tactile screen
 
Hi:
I have here the 3gs, and it's working ok without the tacktel protectors.
But, I percioused them through the ATI GUYS.
The only comment is that, there reply is so bad, and they didn't responde to
my questions at all.
 
 
 
Cheers:
Ramy Moustafa
Owner and producer of Harmony recording studios
skype:
roma30
Facebook:
moustafa.r...@gmail.com
Twitter:
Ramymoustafa
youtube chanael:
www.youtube.com/ramymoustafasaber
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Judy Watford
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 9:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new with phone and tactile screen
 
Hi,
 
This is my first post. I have Anna's book and am learning my phone very
slowly, but sticking with it even though there times I have thought of
throwing it across the room. (smile)
 
Has anyone used the tactile screen covers from atguys? if so, have you found
them to be helpful?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Judy
 
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RE: Netflix inaccessibility redux.

[Amy Billman]

If you have an iPhone/iPod Touch, I personally would keep it. You can make
it work on the phone and iPod, but the iPad app has some issues.
The iPhone and iPod is doable. No clue what they broke in the iPad to make
it suck but it's not cool at all!


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of chris hallsworth
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Netflix inaccessibility redux.

That's no good at all. I have just signed up and am nearly on my first 
week of my free trial which expires on the 25th of this month. I don't 
know how much I am going to use my iPhone or iPod Touch to listen to 
Netflix, but in any case, should I cancel for now then re-join another 
time? I know in the UK it's like £6 a month, but it would sure be nice 
to have access to Netflix across the board, not just the pC. Please 
advise. Thanks!


Christopher Hallsworth

On 01/05/2012 13:54, Daniel Miller wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Has anyone noticed that the Netflix ap  on the iPad has become
inaccessible
> again? I tried to finish a show on my iPad that I started on my apple TV,
> but was unable to do so since VoiceOver read nothing but the headings.
>
>
>

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RE: Keyboard questions

[Amy Billman]

This might be helpful. 
http://www.hllf.net/70

There's no double tap and hold keyboard gesture nor is there a triple tap
and hold, but the three finger swipe down is in there.


The Apple bluetooth keyboard takes replacement batteries.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jennie Facer
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard questions

I know there is a way to activate the notification center with the keyboard,
but I don't remember the exact keystroke.

I use the Verbatim keyboard, which does take regular replacable tripple A
batteries. Is that what you wanted?


Thank you so much!

Jenn
To the world you are someone but to someone you are the world!

On Apr 30, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Danielle McCullough
 wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a way to rec-reate, A, the double tap and
hold, and B, the three finger swipe to pull down the notification centre on
a bluetooth keyboard?
> 
> Also, does anyone know of any mini bluetooth keyboards that just take
normal replaceable batteries at all?
> 
> Any responses would be really appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Danielle
> 
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RE: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for an iPhone 4S

[Amy Billman]

Hi Scott.
I apologize for the delay in responding to you.
No, the keyboard doesn't fold.
It's a mini keyboard about the size and thickness of the iPhone.
We've had customers tell us that they use their thumbs, while others do not.
I think that one depends on how a person prefers to type on a smaller
keyboard like this one.
 
The two position power switch is for turning the keyboard on to use it, or
off when not in use to conserve battery.
The other advantage of course, is that being able to turn it off, will mean
that you can throw it in your backpack or whatever, and you're not going to
be accidentally pushing keys. People seem to like the off switch because
they can tell if it's truly turned off as opposed to something like the
Apple Bluetooth keyboard, which is an awesome keyboard, but you turn that
off by holding in the button and hoping it works. J
 
Let me know if you have any other questions.
 
Take care.
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Howell
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 3:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for
an iPhone 4S
 
Amy,
 
THe one thing I was not clear about is if the keyboard is one of those
little things you have to use your thumbs to type on or if it is a more or
less regular keyboard you can use all fingers to type on. ALso the
information indicated the keyboard had a two position power switch and I was
curious what that is about. I was considering this keyboard, but these
questions came to mind. Also, if it folds is that the size referenced in the
description? THe keyboard is about the size and thickness of the phone when
folded?
 
THanks,
 
On Apr 13, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Amy Billman wrote:



Hello.
Some folks in this thread recommended the 66 key rii mini Bluetooth keyboard
which my company sells.
It's not the same thing as seeing it for real, but we've written a manual
which may help give you some idea about what the keyboard looks like.
You can view it and a short description on our web site at the following
link:
http://shop.speeddots.com/shop_other.html
 
In addition, if there's any other questions I can answer for you to help one
way or the other in your decision, feel free to contact me on or off list.
 
 
 
Amy Billman
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jen Colley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can anyone recommend a blue tooth or usb folding keyboard for an
iPhone 4S
 
Hi, 
I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a good blue tooth or usb
wireless keyboard that can be used with an iPhone 4S. 
Looking for something that is portable and is sold in a store so I can have
a look at it. 
Thanks. 
Jen 
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