Well, I’m staying with 17.7 for now until perhaps iOS 18.1 or 18.2 comes out. But I do think it’s cool that one can actually use their personal voice as a voiceover voice from what I heard from the po

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Re: Accessable alarm clock App that allows you to use nature sounds for the alarms

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Well, Joshua, you can always have a rooster crowing. I think that’s loud enough.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 10, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> My problem with nature sounds as alarm;, how disd they be loud enough to 
> wake you up? I don’t want a jarring alarm, but I do want a noise that is loud 
> enough to get my attention.
> Sent from Joshua’s radical chariot!!!
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2024, at 10:31 PM, Barbara Stahl  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, it is in the App Store and you can download it for free and you have 
>> access to several free sounds right after you download it but if you want 
>> more you have to either subscribe or by the sounds all a cart However 
>> however, the ones that are available for Free seem really good and you can 
>> just play the track to listen to it or you can go into the app and set a 
>> time for it to stop playing or an alarm for it to start playing like a wake 
>> up alarm
>> 
 On Sep 10, 2024, at 11:24 PM, anthony borg  
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>>> 
>>> Hi Anna, is the nature space could be found in the App Store please if 
>>> not, can you tell me from where I can get them?
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Anthony.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On 08 Sep 2024, at 17:20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 NatureSpace has lots of wonderful sounds, and you can set up an alarm that 
 starts fading in the sound of the choice at the time you choose. It offers 
 several sounds for free, and you can buy more or subscribe to have access 
 to all of them.
 
 HTH,
 Anna
 
 
>> On Sep 8, 2024, at 12:53 AM, Barbara Stahl 
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> Does anyone know of an accessible alarm clock app with nature sounds for 
> the alarms. I mean sounds like birds ocean waves, or running water?  
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Re: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

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Tasikar Stainless Steel Watch Band, Compatible with Apple Watch Ultra 49mm, Premium Metal Replacement Strap with Case, Silvera.coSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 10, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







Where can I get this from, please?
Thanks!
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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I bought a third party Milanese loop for my Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I am very happy with it, of course it cost a fraction o fwhat Apple wants for their’s.
 


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I guess what I’m interested in is the Melanese loop since I already have an ultra. Sorry for any typos.

Sent from my iPhone


 

On Sep 9, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jessica Barr <barr.jess...@gmail.com> wrote:




I have a Series 8 Apple Watch, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth upgrading to the Series 10. I'm tempted because of the thinner casing and the fact that I can't use the double tap
 feature that was introduced last year.

Jessica 

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On Sep 9, 2024, at 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to still
 be the cutting edge.
 
 
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Re: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

[Chela Robles]

Well, I found one for only 20 bucks not bad at all. I’m gonna snag it. It’s actually a case and band combo not bad at all. It’s by a company called Tasikar and it is on Amazon and comes in silver, starlight, gold, rosegold, blue and black. I'm getting black.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 10, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:So for clarification when you're swimming and you put the water lock on, you can't use VoiceOver at all not even to tell time. Can you still listen to music if you wanted toOn Sep 10, 2024, at 2:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Yes, and I find it very ridiculous that Apple does not allow for basic Voiceover output when waterlock is on.
In fact, even my Apple Watch Ultra 2 at 100% volume is not loud enough where I can really hear the details when I do a pool swim even if it’s only moderately noisy in the pool. I actually had ordered a bone conduduction headset similar
 to an Aftershokz which is waterproof from Amazon, but it just did not have a good fit and I returned it immediately. I saw that Shokz also makes a waterproof one which I think is called OpenSwim and I may just have to get that, of course the fact they have
 an “OpenCom”, an “OpenRun” and an “OpenSwim” is purely marketing, they just should make one version which is waterproof and be done with it.
 
And just for anybody who is interested, another pet peeve of mine is the fact that when I do a pool swim the app always counts one lane short, e.g. if I do 40 laps it counts 39, but of course I know I have done 40 because I end up on the
 same side of the pool where I started which means it has to be an even number. We only have half an Olympic size pool with 25 meter lanes so if I start on the shallow end and swim down to the deep end that is my first lane, then I swim back to the shallow
 end and that is #2, I usually swim 1 Km which means I do 40 lanes or 20 times back and forth, but when I get back after the last one and then stop the work out it shows me that I did 39 lanes.
 
 


From: 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 3:37 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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When you have Water Lock on, you cannot use the screen, so no hearing VO anyway.
It is designed for swimmers who want to track their activity.
When you get out of the water, they say to dry it off before unlocking the water lock status.
 
 

Richard, USA
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SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
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Hi yes I agree I have a apple watch 6 and it still does what I want it to so it is doing me well. I can’t really understand the hole water lock thing and how would you hear vo
 when you where under water anyways? From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.
 


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The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to still
 be the cutting edge.
 
 
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Re: Apple Watch 10 and "new" Ultra 2

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I guess what I’m interested in is the Melanese loop since I already have an ultra. Sorry for any typos.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Jessica Barr  wrote:I have a Series 8 Apple Watch, and I'm trying to decide if it's worth upgrading to the Series 10. I'm tempted because of the thinner casing and the fact that I can't use the double tap feature that was introduced last year.Jessica Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 9, 2024, at 3:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







The Apple Watch 10 sounds like it has a few good new features although even here I don’t see much of a reason to upgrade if you currently have a series 9 watch.
I was very surprised that unless I am missing something, the only “upgrade” to the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a few new colour options; I was expecting an Apple Watch Ultra 3 and I am very happy that my Ultra 2 I bought last year seems to still
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Re: voice memos question

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Yeah, it could very well be in a folder like the prior poster said I found mine in the utilities folder.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 5, 2024, at 9:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







App Library is another area where she can look for it.
If it’s not directly on one of her home screens then it’s most likely in a folder.
 
 


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Hello Paula, yes it comes native with all the iPhones. Just tell your flute teacher to ask Siri to open Voice Memos and it should open up right away.

Sent from my iPhone






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Hi all.  I’m taking flute lessons over zoom and wanted my teacher to record a piece of music using voice memos and send it to me.  She’s not able to find the voice memos app on her 15 pro.  I thought that app was native to the iphone. 
 Is that right? Is there another free recording app that would allow her to record and send the recording as a text message like you can with voice memos?  Any thoughts are welcome.
God bless!
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Re: voice memos question

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Hello Paula, yes it comes native with all the iPhones. Just tell your flute teacher to ask Siri to open Voice Memos and it should open up right away.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 5, 2024, at 11:15 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:Hi all.  I’m taking flute lessons over zoom and wanted my teacher to record a piece of music using voice memos and send it to me.  She’s not able to find the voice memos app on her 15 pro.  I thought that app was native to the iphone.  Is that right? Is there another free recording app that would allow her to record and send the recording as a text message like you can with voice memos?  Any thoughts are welcome.God bless!Paula and the pups



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Re: Is anyone else having these mail app problems?

[Chela Robles]

I’ve been having the same issue since iOS 17 came out and I own an iPhone 14. I 
encounter the same issues you do. Hope that confirms it for you. Hopefully they 
fix it in the next version of iOS, some time.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Goshawk On Horseback 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else having problems with being able to navigate properly and 
> edit, for example, if you have copied something into a mail message from 
> another email?
> Lately, I have had a few incidences, where I have wanted to copy some 
> questions from one email into the reply, and answer them, but as soon as I 
> have copied the questions in, voice over starts messing around, and making it 
> next to impossible! For me to get to the exact place I want, in order to put 
> the answers in, and this is driving me bonkers!
> A similar thing starts to happen, if I want to put a number of links into an 
> email, I can get away with copying one in, maybe two, but then again, 
> navigation and editing starts going silly.
> Is there a way of fixing these bugs in the standard mail app please? Or if 
> not, is there another good and fully accessible mail app, that might be 
> better at handling this sort of thing please?
> 
> Simon, the March Merman.
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Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

Well, I looked up my information and it has not been leaked out so that’s good for me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 10:27 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:It is probably different depending on your cell carrier.  I use Verizon, and I quickly did it on my phone inside of their app.  For me, it was just a checkbox that I had to check under my account.  And if I ever wanted to unlock it, I would just have to uncheck that box.To learn more about it for your cell carrier, just do a Google search for Cim lock with the name of your carrier.Hope this helps.Chris ChaffinFollow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.spaceOn Aug 19, 2024, at 12:27 PM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:





Hi,
Are there downsides to locking ones Sim? Also, how can I check to see if my Sim is already locked?
Thanks in advance. Keith

On Aug 19, 2024, at 10:53 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:




 Well, it looks like I don’t have to go to my carrier because my Sim is already locked. So I don’t have to do that part. As for the IRS, I will have to figure that one out. Again, thanks for letting us know.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2024, at 7:56 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:








Good explanation Chris.
We also froze our credit a few years ago.
We needed to buy a new car last year.  While at the car dealers, my wife simply asked which credit service they used to check our credit score and on her iPhone, unfroze
 that service, they checked our credit score and she froze it again.
It only took a few minutes.
 
 

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 


 


Its a personal choice, but months before this breach, I decided to do what I can to protect myself from identity theft.  So I decided to do 3 things.


 


* Froze my credit with all three credit bureaus.  This does not stop you from using any credit cards or anything like that.  It just blocks any new credit inquiries, so no new credit cards or loans can be taken in your name.  Freezing your
 credit is not a permanent thing.  You can thaw and re-freeze your credit as much as you need to.


 


* I signed up and registered with the IRS for a personal PIN.  This prevents anyone from filing a tax return in your name.  This PIN changes every year, and it is mandatory in order for you to file your taxes.


 


*  I went to my cell provider and locked my cim.  This prevents someone from highjacking your cim and phone number so they can receive your 2 factor codes, which would help them access your accounts.


 


Millions of people are getting their identities stolen every year, and once done, it is not easy to get it back.  I have heard several stories from people that this has happened too.  I realize that nothing is full proof, but I personally
 want to do what I can to protect myself.


 


I figured that there are some that did not know that you could do these things, so just thought I would share.


 


Chris Chaffin


 


Follow me on Mastodon:


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On Aug 18, 2024, at 6:06 PM, janet gross <janet.harv...@outlook.com> wrote:




 

Hello Chela, 

 
I’m just now catching up with emails, and I am just now seeing this data preach. 

I don’t think this will effect monthly Social Security checks from automatic deposits.  
Although, you might want to seriously think about putting a freeze on the 3 major credit reporting agencies, we as the citizens have to take a part in protecting ourselves as well.    
But yet, keep in mind some or all the credit agencies have also experienced data breaches too.   
There are so many data preaches, that it is hard to keep up with all of them. 

There has been many data breaches , and most of the time we as citizens don’t even hear about half of them. 

From what I have recently read about this breach is this happened in ‘April, but we are just now hearing about this, or I am just now hearing about this.  
 
 
Janet 


From:
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On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m
 just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. 

Sent from my iPhone







On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes.

Re: Cell phone with Tactile buttons

[Chela Robles]

I believe there’s a way you can do that with the blind mice regarding the Shell Classic 2.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 10:51 AM, aruell via VIPhone  wrote:If he can find a way to afford it, perhaps using a payment plan, I would suggest the Blind Shell Classic 2.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise PeytonSent: Monday, August 19, 2024 1:39 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Cell phone with Tactile buttons Hi:  You might want to check the Blind Shell phone which speaks when you touch the buttons.  Not sure who sells it or the cost. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ann M MedlarSent: Monday, August 19, 2024 1:36 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Cell phone with Tactile buttons Hi all,My friend who is totally blind asked me if I knew a cell phone with tactile buttons.  He lives in Ohio and does not have much financial means.All suggestions appreciated.Thank you,Ann   -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001901daf25e%244d839e90%24e88adbb0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS0PR10MB62229987A44A2C6EB1914C40D18C2%40DS0PR10MB6222.namprd10.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

If using an iPhone, you go to settings general about scroll to where it says Sim and you’ll see somewhere around there that it will say locked or unlocked. I found out mine was locked that way.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 10:27 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:It is probably different depending on your cell carrier.  I use Verizon, and I quickly did it on my phone inside of their app.  For me, it was just a checkbox that I had to check under my account.  And if I ever wanted to unlock it, I would just have to uncheck that box.To learn more about it for your cell carrier, just do a Google search for Cim lock with the name of your carrier.Hope this helps.Chris ChaffinFollow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.spaceOn Aug 19, 2024, at 12:27 PM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:





Hi,
Are there downsides to locking ones Sim? Also, how can I check to see if my Sim is already locked?
Thanks in advance. Keith

On Aug 19, 2024, at 10:53 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:




 Well, it looks like I don’t have to go to my carrier because my Sim is already locked. So I don’t have to do that part. As for the IRS, I will have to figure that one out. Again, thanks for letting us know.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 19, 2024, at 7:56 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:








Good explanation Chris.
We also froze our credit a few years ago.
We needed to buy a new car last year.  While at the car dealers, my wife simply asked which credit service they used to check our credit score and on her iPhone, unfroze
 that service, they checked our credit score and she froze it again.
It only took a few minutes.
 
 

Richard, USA
"INTROVERTS UNITE ...

SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"
-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 


 


Its a personal choice, but months before this breach, I decided to do what I can to protect myself from identity theft.  So I decided to do 3 things.


 


* Froze my credit with all three credit bureaus.  This does not stop you from using any credit cards or anything like that.  It just blocks any new credit inquiries, so no new credit cards or loans can be taken in your name.  Freezing your
 credit is not a permanent thing.  You can thaw and re-freeze your credit as much as you need to.


 


* I signed up and registered with the IRS for a personal PIN.  This prevents anyone from filing a tax return in your name.  This PIN changes every year, and it is mandatory in order for you to file your taxes.


 


*  I went to my cell provider and locked my cim.  This prevents someone from highjacking your cim and phone number so they can receive your 2 factor codes, which would help them access your accounts.


 


Millions of people are getting their identities stolen every year, and once done, it is not easy to get it back.  I have heard several stories from people that this has happened too.  I realize that nothing is full proof, but I personally
 want to do what I can to protect myself.


 


I figured that there are some that did not know that you could do these things, so just thought I would share.


 


Chris Chaffin


 


Follow me on Mastodon:


@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space


 







On Aug 18, 2024, at 6:06 PM, janet gross <janet.harv...@outlook.com> wrote:




 

Hello Chela, 

 
I’m just now catching up with emails, and I am just now seeing this data preach. 

I don’t think this will effect monthly Social Security checks from automatic deposits.  
Although, you might want to seriously think about putting a freeze on the 3 major credit reporting agencies, we as the citizens have to take a part in protecting ourselves as well.    
But yet, keep in mind some or all the credit agencies have also experienced data breaches too.   
There are so many data preaches, that it is hard to keep up with all of them. 

There has been many data breaches , and most of the time we as citizens don’t even hear about half of them. 

From what I have recently read about this breach is this happened in ‘April, but we are just now hearing about this, or I am just now hearing about this.  
 
 
Janet 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m
 just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. 

Sent from my iPhone







On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

Whether you h

Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

Well, it looks like I don’t have to go to my carrier because my Sim is already locked. So I don’t have to do that part. As for the IRS, I will have to figure that one out. Again, thanks for letting us know.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 19, 2024, at 7:56 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Good explanation Chris.We also froze our credit a few years ago.We needed to buy a new car last year.  While at the car dealers, my wife simply asked which credit service they used to check our credit score and on her iPhone, unfroze that service, they checked our credit score and she froze it again.It only took a few minutes.  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris ChaffinSent: Monday, August 19, 2024 7:16 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Important: Data Breach  Its a personal choice, but months before this breach, I decided to do what I can to protect myself from identity theft.  So I decided to do 3 things. * Froze my credit with all three credit bureaus.  This does not stop you from using any credit cards or anything like that.  It just blocks any new credit inquiries, so no new credit cards or loans can be taken in your name.  Freezing your credit is not a permanent thing.  You can thaw and re-freeze your credit as much as you need to. * I signed up and registered with the IRS for a personal PIN.  This prevents anyone from filing a tax return in your name.  This PIN changes every year, and it is mandatory in order for you to file your taxes. *  I went to my cell provider and locked my cim.  This prevents someone from highjacking your cim and phone number so they can receive your 2 factor codes, which would help them access your accounts. Millions of people are getting their identities stolen every year, and once done, it is not easy to get it back.  I have heard several stories from people that this has happened too.  I realize that nothing is full proof, but I personally want to do what I can to protect myself. I figured that there are some that did not know that you could do these things, so just thought I would share. Chris Chaffin Follow me on Mastodon:@chrischaffin@dragonscave.space On Aug 18, 2024, at 6:06 PM, janet gross  wrote: Hello Chela,  I’m just now catching up with emails, and I am just now seeing this data preach.  I don’t think this will effect monthly Social Security checks from automatic deposits.  Although, you might want to seriously think about putting a freeze on the 3 major credit reporting agencies, we as the citizens have to take a part in protecting ourselves as well.    But yet, keep in mind some or all the credit agencies have also experienced data breaches too.   There are so many data preaches, that it is hard to keep up with all of them.  There has been many data breaches , and most of the time we as citizens don’t even hear about half of them.  From what I have recently read about this breach is this happened in ‘April, but we are just now hearing about this, or I am just now hearing about this.    Janet From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:33 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Important: Data Breach But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Important: Data Breach Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing about it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley  wrote:All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved. James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Important: Data Breach I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.caSent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE:

Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

Also, Patelco Credit Union fixed their issue by mid July so everything works now so I’m hopeful that this date of breach will come to an end soon. Fingers crossed for that.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Well, I don’t belong to any of those ones listed so again I wouldn’t be reporting it because I don’t belong to those ones listed in the news. I do belong to Patelco Credit Union, but they already had their scare in July and we didn’t have access to our money as far as online banking goes, and as far as, having access to the amount of money that was in there, but nevertheless, I do hope that something can be resolved and that hopefully I won’t be contacted for any reason whatsoever I know I keep my online presents within two step authorization verification whatever they’re calling it now these days I think it’s two factor authentication verification whatever it’s called but anyway have a great day Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 3:06 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hello Chela, 

 
I’m just now catching up with emails, and I am just now seeing this data preach. 

I don’t think this will effect monthly Social Security checks from automatic deposits.  
Although, you might want to seriously think about putting a freeze on the 3 major credit reporting agencies, we as the citizens have to take a part in protecting ourselves as well.    
But yet, keep in mind some or all the credit agencies have also experienced data breaches too.   
There are so many data preaches, that it is hard to keep up with all of them. 

There has been many data breaches , and most of the time we as citizens don’t even hear about half of them. 

From what I have recently read about this breach is this happened in ‘April, but we are just now hearing about this, or I am just now hearing about this.  
 
 
Janet 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m
 just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing
 about it.

Sent from my iPhone







On Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:





All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved.
 
James B 
 
 


From:
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On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi I whent to this websight that you listed but since I am in Ontario Canada this doesn’t effect me since I live in Ontario Canada. And we have herd nothing about this data breetch
 hear in Canada. From Mich.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.com
Sent: August 17, 2024 7:42 PM
To: lang...@gmail.com
Subject: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi all,
 
I tried posting the following on Facebook, but not all of the links showed up in my post, so I took it down. While this isn’t specifically related to JAWS, iPhones and other assistive technologies, I felt that it was important enough to
 spread the news far and wide through a couple of e-mail list. Feel free to continue spreading it far and wide.  No flames, please.

 
I don’t mean to increase anyone’s paranoia, but on the news a couple of days ago I heard about a massive data breach; nearly 3 billion records containing people’s names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers
 are now available on the Internet and the dark web. Rich De Muro, who does a Saturday tech show on Los Angeles radio station KFI AM and a regular spot on KTLA channel 5, also pub

Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

Well, I don’t belong to any of those ones listed so again I wouldn’t be reporting it because I don’t belong to those ones listed in the news. I do belong to Patelco Credit Union, but they already had their scare in July and we didn’t have access to our money as far as online banking goes, and as far as, having access to the amount of money that was in there, but nevertheless, I do hope that something can be resolved and that hopefully I won’t be contacted for any reason whatsoever I know I keep my online presents within two step authorization verification whatever they’re calling it now these days I think it’s two factor authentication verification whatever it’s called but anyway have a great day Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 3:06 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hello Chela, 

 
I’m just now catching up with emails, and I am just now seeing this data preach. 

I don’t think this will effect monthly Social Security checks from automatic deposits.  
Although, you might want to seriously think about putting a freeze on the 3 major credit reporting agencies, we as the citizens have to take a part in protecting ourselves as well.    
But yet, keep in mind some or all the credit agencies have also experienced data breaches too.   
There are so many data preaches, that it is hard to keep up with all of them. 

There has been many data breaches , and most of the time we as citizens don’t even hear about half of them. 

From what I have recently read about this breach is this happened in ‘April, but we are just now hearing about this, or I am just now hearing about this.  
 
 
Janet 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2024 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m
 just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing
 about it.

Sent from my iPhone







On Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:





All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved.
 
James B 
 
 


From:
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On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved.
 


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On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi I whent to this websight that you listed but since I am in Ontario Canada this doesn’t effect me since I live in Ontario Canada. And we have herd nothing about this data breetch
 hear in Canada. From Mich.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.com
Sent: August 17, 2024 7:42 PM
To: lang...@gmail.com
Subject: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi all,
 
I tried posting the following on Facebook, but not all of the links showed up in my post, so I took it down. While this isn’t specifically related to JAWS, iPhones and other assistive technologies, I felt that it was important enough to
 spread the news far and wide through a couple of e-mail list. Feel free to continue spreading it far and wide.  No flames, please.

 
I don’t mean to increase anyone’s paranoia, but on the news a couple of days ago I heard about a massive data breach; nearly 3 billion records containing people’s names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers
 are now available on the Internet and the dark web. Rich De Muro, who does a Saturday tech show on Los Angeles radio station KFI AM and a regular spot on KTLA channel 5, also publishes a weekly newsletter which I get in my inbox every Saturday morning. Below
 is an excerpt from this week’s newsletter pertaining to the data breach.  It contains links to a place where you can read about the breach and check to see if yo

Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

I wonder if we are all going to be contacted somehow this is very interesting news, but I’m not surprisedSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing
 about it.

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley  wrote:





All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved.
 
James B 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi I whent to this websight that you listed but since I am in Ontario Canada this doesn’t effect me since I live in Ontario Canada. And we have herd nothing about this data breetch
 hear in Canada. From Mich.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.com
Sent: August 17, 2024 7:42 PM
To: lang...@gmail.com
Subject: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi all,
 
I tried posting the following on Facebook, but not all of the links showed up in my post, so I took it down. While this isn’t specifically related to JAWS, iPhones and other assistive technologies, I felt that it was important enough to
 spread the news far and wide through a couple of e-mail list. Feel free to continue spreading it far and wide.  No flames, please.

 
I don’t mean to increase anyone’s paranoia, but on the news a couple of days ago I heard about a massive data breach; nearly 3 billion records containing people’s names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers
 are now available on the Internet and the dark web. Rich De Muro, who does a Saturday tech show on Los Angeles radio station KFI AM and a regular spot on KTLA channel 5, also publishes a weekly newsletter which I get in my inbox every Saturday morning. Below
 is an excerpt from this week’s newsletter pertaining to the data breach.  It contains links to a place where you can read about the breach and check to see if your information was breached. 

 
Here's the excerpt from the newsletter. 

 

Cybersecurity Corner

This week's big story is the

data breach, which contains nearly 3 billion records…. including names, addresses, dates of birth, and, unfortunately, social security numbers.

A cybersecurity firm named Pentester set up a special site where you can enter your name and year of birth to see if your information is in the dump.

Check
 for your SSN

The bad news: it probably is, and you might want to freeze your credit reports. I did and found the process to be quite easy: you create a login, bypass all the nonsense they try to sell you on and
 tap Freeze. You can also unfreeze in a tap.

While your report is frozen, no one can open a new account in your name. Here are the direct links for

Experian, 
TransUnion, and 
Equifax.
 
A listener called into Rich’s tech show and passed on a tip regarding another place worth looking into. It is
https://www.chexsystems.com/
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Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

But I wonder how it will affect Social Security income I'm also wondering if anyone is going to do anything about it, I know that all my online presents is doubly secured as far as two factor authentication so I’m covered there But I’m just wondering what is being done right now to come back this hacker in order to prevent this situation in the future again. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 18, 2024, at 1:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Whether you have credit or not makes no difference, your information can still be used for criminal purposes.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Important: Data Breach


 
Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing
 about it.

Sent from my iPhone






On Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley  wrote:





All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved.
 
James B 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi I whent to this websight that you listed but since I am in Ontario Canada this doesn’t effect me since I live in Ontario Canada. And we have herd nothing about this data breetch
 hear in Canada. From Mich.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.com
Sent: August 17, 2024 7:42 PM
To: lang...@gmail.com
Subject: Important: Data Breach


 
Hi all,
 
I tried posting the following on Facebook, but not all of the links showed up in my post, so I took it down. While this isn’t specifically related to JAWS, iPhones and other assistive technologies, I felt that it was important enough to
 spread the news far and wide through a couple of e-mail list. Feel free to continue spreading it far and wide.  No flames, please.

 
I don’t mean to increase anyone’s paranoia, but on the news a couple of days ago I heard about a massive data breach; nearly 3 billion records containing people’s names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers
 are now available on the Internet and the dark web. Rich De Muro, who does a Saturday tech show on Los Angeles radio station KFI AM and a regular spot on KTLA channel 5, also publishes a weekly newsletter which I get in my inbox every Saturday morning. Below
 is an excerpt from this week’s newsletter pertaining to the data breach.  It contains links to a place where you can read about the breach and check to see if your information was breached. 

 
Here's the excerpt from the newsletter. 

 

Cybersecurity Corner

This week's big story is the

data breach, which contains nearly 3 billion records…. including names, addresses, dates of birth, and, unfortunately, social security numbers.

A cybersecurity firm named Pentester set up a special site where you can enter your name and year of birth to see if your information is in the dump.

Check
 for your SSN

The bad news: it probably is, and you might want to freeze your credit reports. I did and found the process to be quite easy: you create a login, bypass all the nonsense they try to sell you on and
 tap Freeze. You can also unfreeze in a tap.

While your report is frozen, no one can open a new account in your name. Here are the direct links for

Experian, 
TransUnion, and 
Equifax.
 
A listener called into Rich’s tech show and passed on a tip regarding another place worth looking into. It is
https://www.chexsystems.com/
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Re: Important: Data Breach

[Chela Robles]

Well, luckily, I haven't any credit and don't belong to any of those mentioned in the news. Hopefully it will not affect SSI monthly checks or deposis. Does Social Security Administration know about this? I wondering what they're doing about it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 17, 2024, at 5:20 PM, James Bentley  wrote:All data for the U K, Australia, Canada, and the USA are involved. James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 6:54 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Important: Data Breach I saw this in a Kim Commando email several days ago.  They believe all social Security numbers are involved. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mi...@eastlink.caSent: Saturday, August 17, 2024 7:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Important: Data Breach Hi I whent to this websight that you listed but since I am in Ontario Canada this doesn’t effect me since I live in Ontario Canada. And we have herd nothing about this data breetch hear in Canada. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lang...@gmail.comSent: August 17, 2024 7:42 PMTo: lang...@gmail.comSubject: Important: Data Breach Hi all, I tried posting the following on Facebook, but not all of the links showed up in my post, so I took it down. While this isn’t specifically related to JAWS, iPhones and other assistive technologies, I felt that it was important enough to spread the news far and wide through a couple of e-mail list. Feel free to continue spreading it far and wide.  No flames, please.  I don’t mean to increase anyone’s paranoia, but on the news a couple of days ago I heard about a massive data breach; nearly 3 billion records containing people’s names, dates of birth, addresses, phone numbers and social security numbers are now available on the Internet and the dark web. Rich De Muro, who does a Saturday tech show on Los Angeles radio station KFI AM and a regular spot on KTLA channel 5, also publishes a weekly newsletter which I get in my inbox every Saturday morning. Below is an excerpt from this week’s newsletter pertaining to the data breach.  It contains links to a place where you can read about the breach and check to see if your information was breached.   Here's the excerpt from the newsletter.  Cybersecurity CornerThis week's big story is the data breach, which contains nearly 3 billion records…. including names, addresses, dates of birth, and, unfortunately, social security numbers.A cybersecurity firm named Pentester set up a special site where you can enter your name and year of birth to see if your information is in the dump.Check for your SSNThe bad news: it probably is, and you might want to freeze your credit reports. I did and found the process to be quite easy: you create a login, bypass all the nonsense they try to sell you on and tap Freeze. You can also unfreeze in a tap.While your report is frozen, no one can open a new account in your name. Here are the direct links for Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax. A listener called into Rich’s tech show and passed on a tip regarding another place worth looking into. It ishttps://www.chexsystems.com/-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000601daf0ff%24196b7390%244c425ab0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0b3e01daf100%2435fe1930%

Re: accessible blood pressure monitor

[Chela Robles]

What about Cardioarm? What are your Thoughts on that one? I’ve heard about it, but don’t know much about it.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 16, 2024, at 6:47 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:Hi Donald. I have been using the Withings BP Connect for a couple of years. The app is very accessible. It does have a couple of buttons that arenot labeled. Also, the BP does not speak the results when you take your blood pressure. It does show on the BP screen. You have to go in to the Withings app in order to see the results. I’m sure there are other improvements that can be made. The app does get updates quite regularly. I like it much better than the Quardioarm. I have used both.On Aug 15, 2024, at 6:43 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:Hi,I am looking for an accessible blood pressure monitor that sincs with my iPhone.I have read reviews of the QuardioArm on this list in the past and would go that route but don't really want to spend $200 for it.Has anyone tried the Withings BPM Connect - Digital Blood Pressure Cuff & Heart Rate Monitor - Blood Pressure Machine Arm Cuff, FDA Cleared, FSA/HSA Eligible, IOS?  It is only $100.00 on amazon.  Just wondering if the iOs app is accessible?Any suggestions would be appreciated.Sincerely,DonaldSincerely,	Donald Raikes, CPACCAccessibility SpecialistIAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core competencies

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Re: iOS and iPad 17.6, Anyone?

[Chela Robles]

Turned out that there was a server issue so I waited for a little bit and was able to update successfully. Nothing on my end was off.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 1:21 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:I had no issue a day or two ago, whenever it came out on my 13 pro.Perhaps reboot and try again?  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Thursday, August 1, 2024 1:13 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: iOS and iPad 17.6, Anyone? Tried to update, but it keeps saying there was an error downloading iOS 17.6 and then the OK button. Maybe the servers are busy or something. I am using an iPhone 14 anybody else having this issue?Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 7:49 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:I have noticed some differences in sound playback. Mostly when listening to something with bluetooth, then disconnecting the bt device, my iPhone is not remembering as often what I was listening to when I request it to play. I have also had a couple times when on the phone with BT and then after the call VoiceOver was not speaking, until I disconnected and re-connected the BT device. Jonathan Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 3:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: Just security fixes for iOS and Safari/web Kit, From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 5:34 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: iOS and iPad 17.6, Anyone? Working as always, both on my iPhone and iPad.GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 31 jul 2024, a la(s) 6:30 p.m., VIPhone  escribió:Hello Everyone,I see that iOS and iPad 17.6 has recently been released.  Has anyone updated to the latest version and if so, opinions?I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to your replies,Mark-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3a1831d3-8fb1-4a58-8c62-8a44bda3b3a5n%40googlegroups.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0953F113-4C70-4AC8-B348-588F725A06D8%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BN0PR01MB6909053DD676FC3CA3BBAFEEC7B22%40BN0PR01MB6909.prod.exchangelabs.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners o

Re: iOS and iPad 17.6, Anyone?

[Chela Robles]

Tried to update, but it keeps saying there was an error downloading iOS 17.6 and then the OK button. Maybe the servers are busy or something. I am using an iPhone 14 anybody else having this issue?Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 7:49 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:I have noticed some differences in sound playback. Mostly when listening to something with bluetooth, then disconnecting the bt device, my iPhone is not remembering as often what I was listening to when I request it to play.I have also had a couple times when on the phone with BT and then after the call VoiceOver was not speaking, until I disconnected and re-connected the BT device.JonathanSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 3:23 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Just security fixes for iOS and Safari/web Kit,
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Working as always, both on my iPhone and iPad.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel







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Hello Everyone,

I see that iOS and iPad 17.6 has recently been released.  

Has anyone updated to the latest version and if so, opinions?

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to your replies,

Mark
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Re: Texting

[Chela Robles]

I forgot to mention that there is a toggle button to turn it on or off some people leave it off some people leave it on it just depends.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 12:05 PM, Mario Eiland  wrote:That’s based on the receiver’s settings. For example, I have my settings for “Send Read receipts” turned off. This means I don’t want my recipients to know if I did or didn’t read their messages. This setting is under Settings > Messages.  From: 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone  Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2024 11:35 AMTo: VIPhone (viphone@googlegroups.com) Subject: Texting Hi All,  I thought their used to be a setting to notify you when someone has read your text. If yes, would someone be able to remind me where this setting is located? Thanks in advance! Thank You, Steve Cook, CPMStatewide Services ManagerAssistive Technology ConsultantSC Commission for the Blind1430 Confederate AvenueColumbia, SC 29201Office: (803) 898-8788Cell: (803) 908-3856Email: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MN2PR09MB55452642404FAC96D3596F65D2B22%40MN2PR09MB5545.namprd09.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Texting

[Chela Robles]

Go to settings, then messages and then read receipts under iMessages. Keep in mine it only works for sending/receiving messages to and from iDevices.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2024, at 11:34 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone  wrote:







Hi All, 
 
I thought their used to be a setting to notify you when someone has read your text. If yes, would someone be able to remind me where this setting is located?
 
Thanks in advance!
 
Thank You, 
Steve Cook, CPM
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SC Commission for the Blind
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Columbia, SC 29201
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Fwd: [Tech-VI] The End of an Era: A Message From the Founder as We Announce the Closure of AppleVis | AppleVis

[Chela Robles]

Title: The End of an Era: A Message From the Founder as We Announce the Closure of AppleVis | AppleVis
Not sure if you guys are aware of this thought I’d pass along.Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: "David Goldfield via groups.io" Date: July 27, 2024 at 2:07:00 PM PDTTo: List Subject: [Tech-VI] The End of an Era: A Message From the Founder as We Announce the Closure of AppleVis | AppleVisReply-To: tech...@groups.io







https://www.applevis.com/blog/end-era-message-founder-we-announce-closure-applevis






The End of an Era: A Message From the Founder as We Announce the Closure of AppleVis
Dear AppleVis Community,
It is with deep sadness and a heavy heart that after careful consideration I have made the difficult decision to step down from my responsibilities with AppleVis. As a direct result of my departure and following extensive deliberation,
 the editorial team has come to the painful conclusion that AppleVis will be closing. This decision was not made lightly, but it has become clear that continuing AppleVis without my involvement is not feasible.
Some of you may be aware of my recent health scare, and I would like to emphasise that the timing of this decision is entirely coincidental and unrelated. The discussions have been ongoing for a couple of months, and the final decision
 had already been reached. My health scare has only delayed this process.
Maintaining AppleVis has essentially been a full-time responsibility for me since I founded it in 2010 — a commitment I've undertaken entirely on a voluntary and unpaid basis. This level of dedication has demanded countless hours
 of work encompassing nearly every aspect of AppleVis' operations, often starting or ending well outside what many would consider a typical workday. While I've been largely happy to make this commitment, driven by our mission and the positive impact we've had
 on the community, it has come at significant personal cost. The level of this work has meant substantial sacrifices to my personal and family life, with many missed moments and opportunities. Moreover, the voluntary nature and level of this work has led to
 additional sacrifices in terms of potential career opportunities and income, a choice I made willingly for the benefit of our users. This dedication wouldn't have been possible without the unwavering support and understanding of my wife. Her patience, encouragement,
 and willingness to accommodate the demands of AppleVis on our personal life and circumstances have been instrumental in allowing me to devote so much time and energy to this project. I owe her a debt of gratitude that words can scarcely express.
As life evolves, so too must our priorities. I've now reached a stage in my own life where I need to reassess my commitments and focus more on personal matters. The demands and mentally exhausting nature of my responsibilities for
 AppleVis have made it increasingly challenging to maintain a healthy equilibrium between my personal life and volunteer commitments. Despite my passion for this project, I find myself no longer able to dedicate the necessary time and energy to maintain AppleVis
 at the level it deserves and our community expects. After much reflection, I have made the difficult decision to step down from my responsibilities with AppleVis. This choice, while not easy, is necessary for my personal well-being and to allow me to redirect
 my focus to other aspects of my life.
My responsibilities for AppleVis have been so all-encompassing that not a single day has passed in the last fourteen years when I've been able to completely set aside these obligations. I must acknowledge that this situation is largely
 of my own making and choosing. By being the sole person responsible for the development and maintenance of the website itself, I've shouldered the entire technical workload alone. This situation also meant that I was often the only person on the team who could
 handle questions and issues from the community about the website and their use of it, creating a bottleneck and placing additional pressure on my time and energy. While this approach allowed for consistency and rapid decision-making, it has also created an
 untenable situation. Not only has it meant carrying a constant burden, but it has also placed both myself and the rest of the editorial team in a difficult position where there is no ‘exit ramp’ by which I can transition these responsibilities to others on
 the team.
While personal circumstances are the primary reason for this decision, I must also acknowledge other contributing factors. The increasingly negative environment fostered by a small but vocal minority within our community has taken
 its toll. Over time, the constant barrage of criticism, unfounded accusations, and toxic interactions has become a significant source of stress and exhaustion. This situation has been exacerbated by the growing necessity for intervention and moderation on
 the site. Contrary to what som

Re: Trouble with Zell and Bank Of America app

[Chela Robles]

Honestly, I don’t use Zelle nor PayPal nor Venmo anymore after what had happened to me last August with Patelco Credit Union whenever I have a gig since I’m a trumpet player, I get paid in cash. I get regular deposits as normal, but I don’t use any of the other online ways of getting cash instantly. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 22, 2024, at 12:51 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:Hey guys. Here's the bottom line. When you are in zel, and you go to send money to someone, and you double tap the select account button, it's broken. It worked for years, and then the last time I used it, it just stopped.It makes no sense. Only logical explanation is someone broke the app, and we need to let them know about it.On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 3:10 PM 'Amy ruell' via VIPhone  wrote:They deny such a policy exist and indicate that I should be able to request money from a person I have listed as a contact.
Amy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 22, 2024, at 2:15 PM, David Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> some banks have a requirement that the sender of the money has to send the money to you and they need to enter your email address at the time that the sending party sends the money.  It sounds like you need to check the Bank of america's policy for these money transfers.  Good luck.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 7/20/2024 3:34 AM, 'Amy ruell' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Sent from my iPhone Hello all,
>> I have no difficulty paying people with Zelle. In general, I find the Bank of America app quite accessible. However, I am now trying to request money from someone who does not use Zelle easily. I can get to the screen and can find that contact, and there is Zelle credentials. However, once I enter the amount I am requesting, I swipe to a button that reads deposit to select account. However, if I try to activate the button, nothing happens. Interestingly, my sited husband indicates that there is no such button at that spot on the screen. I have tried connecting with Bank Of America employees to no avail. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. I’ve been at this for quite some time today without success.
>> Amy.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Trouble with Zell and Bank Of America app

[Chela Robles]

Well, I’ve heard some banks have been having issues lately related to certain 
online banking. Patelco was one of them and it had to do with Zelle and Patelco 
had a ransomeware attack.. I could imagine that something else is going on with 
regards to Zelle and other bank you might as well contact your bank to see 
what’s going on. I also have heard that in the news recently that there are or 
were airlines and banks affected by certain technologies having a shut down of 
some sort could check into that. Maybe maybe that’s why Zelle is not working 
for you right now. Could be a temporary outage or something.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 20, 2024, at 1:18 PM, 'Amy ruell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have done all of that and shut down the iPhone twice all to no avail. So 
> frustrating! Will keep added though. Thanks.
> Amy.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 20, 2024, at 11:30 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
>> 
>> HI Amy,
>> I had some issues the other day trying to send money to a friend. It kept 
>> telling me that it experience some kind of error and to try again later. I 
>> just ended up clearing my app switcher turned off and turned on my iPhone 
>> and tried it again and then it worked. I know it sounds kind of silly, but 
>> who knows.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Amy ruell' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2024 12:35 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Trouble with Zell and Bank Of America app
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone Hello all,
>> I have no difficulty paying people with Zelle. In general, I find the Bank 
>> of America app quite accessible. However, I am now trying to request money 
>> from someone who does not use Zelle easily. I can get to the screen and can 
>> find that contact, and there is Zelle credentials. However, once I enter the 
>> amount I am requesting, I swipe to a button that reads deposit to select 
>> account. However, if I try to activate the button, nothing happens. 
>> Interestingly, my sited husband indicates that there is no such button at 
>> that spot on the screen. I have tried connecting with Bank Of America 
>> employees to no avail. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. I’ve been at 
>> this for quite some time today without success.
>> Amy.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Typing Spanish in PC

[Chela Robles]

You would do that key combination that was mentioned earlier go to where the 
letter is that you want the list of available characters and then press enter 
and it will automatically be inserted where you want it inserted.
Sent from my iPhone

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> MSW
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>> Which word processing application will you be using? Microsoft Word or what?
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Re: Be My AI Rocks!

[Chela Robles]

Yes, piccy bot. I had a longer duration video that was 4 minutes in length and it described it to me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 4, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Has anyone here tried PiccyBot?  It can describe short videos 30 seconds or 60 for registered users.  It can use a variety of AI models and supports a number of voices.Malcolm ParfittOn 4 Jul 2024, at 11:33 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  wrote:hi Richard,I agree with you, Seeing AI has got the best interface, however, I do think with the latest AI they need a new channel, I don't want to go into a channel then look for it and then use it I want it direct on the front screen, perhaps  first position?All the best, Sandy and Zed Sent from The dark side of the moonOn 4 Jul 2024, at 11:28, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes, Seeing AI was the first to recognize handwriting. At the time, it was truly revolutionary and they should get full credit for breaking the ground for handwriting recognition. And yes, most apps do recognize handwriting now. However, none have put the whole package together in such an easy and straight forward way as Be My Eyes. I keep trying all the other free, or free trial apps that offer AI descriptions, Be My Eyes is the easiest and often the best by quite a bit. At least in my opinion. Seeing AI is the best at immediate reading with the Short Text channel. I go to it first for most things I want to know what it says/is. But if I want more of a detailed description, I use Be My Eyes. Richard"There's a nap for that." Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 4, 2024, at 1:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







The Seeing AI app also has a handwriting channel and on the few occasions where I had a reason to use it, the result was quite good as well.
 
 


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Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2024 10:21 PM
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And Be my AI can read handwriting. Its fantastic!

 


 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." 


Sent from my iPhone







On Jul 3, 2024, at 8:23 PM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:






Yes be my AI is totally awesome. Sometimes even works better than Seeing AI at reading mail. I love it too.






On Jul 3, 2024, at 8:29 PM, 
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Hi all,
Today I got a reminder of how much I dig the hell out of Be My AI. It’s been a while since I’ve used Be My Eyes, and especially its Be My AI feature. I’ve used Be My AI for reading various types of mail and packaging and it works pretty
 darn well.  For example, I can use it to read an envelope to decide whether the mail goes straight into the trash or is worth scanning its contents , or I can use it to read the full page of the notice that my landlord tapes to my door. For packaging, I can
 take a picture of a Trader Joe’s product, get nutritional information (is it high in sodium?), and get both stovetop and microwave cooking directions. All of that info can be copied and pasted into a notes app or anywhere else I might choose to do so for future
 reference. But anyway…
 
In the San Fernando Valley today it’s sweltering with temps in the upper 90s, so I turned on the central air and needed to check to see what my apartment’s inaccessible thermostat was set to. I grabbed my phone, loaded Be My Eyes and put
 Be My AI to the test. I went into the hallway, positioned the phone’s camera so that it could see the thermostat and took a picture. Be My responded by saying that it saw the wall with the thermostat, and when I asked what the thermostat was set to, it said
 that the lighting was too poor, whereupon I flipped the light switch and took another picture. That time, it could clearly see the thermostat, and when I again asked what it was set to, it told me that the temperature was set to 74 according to where the little
 red needle was pointing. Needless to say I was quite pleased that I didn’t have to get sighted assistance. That may not seem like such a big deal to some, but to me it was HUGE. That is yet another example of how, for me at least, BE My AI ROCKS!
 
For comparison purposes, I’ll use the Envision app to do similar things and I’ll let you all know how it goes.
Take care, y’all.
 
Tom
 
 
 
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Re: What's Up With GMail's Spam Filtering?

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I couldn’t find the thread that was talking about messenger because somehow I ended up in my spam and it feels like I have a lot of messages in spam. I didn’t feel like coming through it all. Please don’t be mad at me.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 19, 2024, at 10:54 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Are you sure you meant to send this reply to this thread?
 


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So I know you guys are aware of the Facebook messenger issue I did find a way to report it through meta-accessibility at least that’s what they’re calling themselves now. Here’s the website.












facebook.com














 

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Hi all,
Every once in a while I go into my Gmail Junk folder using the native mail app on my phone.  It’s amazing what I find in there sometimes. Unfortunately, I keep finding stuff that is posted to this list that should have gone directly to
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Thanks,
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Re: What's Up With GMail's Spam Filtering?

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So I know you guys are aware of the Facebook messenger issue I did find a way to report it through meta-accessibility at least that’s what they’re calling themselves now. Here’s the website.facebook.comSent from my iPhoneOn Jun 19, 2024, at 12:57 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all,Every once in a while I go into my Gmail Junk folder using the native mail app on my phone.  It’s amazing what I find in there sometimes. Unfortunately, I keep finding stuff that is posted to this list that should have gone directly to my inbox but it is routed to the junk folder instead. So why is Gmail doing that? Any ideas?Thanks,Tom   



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Re: What's Up With GMail's Spam Filtering?

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Good to know, I’m not the only one having this issue and it’s weird because I’m using the native mail app on the iPhone can’t see spam mail at all folder regarding the folder until I go on the website for Gmail on the chrome browser on my laptop since I use Windows 11, that’s what I do and then I look and see some of these Threads that or supposed to go to my inbox directly as well in the spam so it’s not just you having this issue I think it’s very interesting. Do not know a solution other than two unmark from spam. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 19, 2024, at 12:57 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all,Every once in a while I go into my Gmail Junk folder using the native mail app on my phone.  It’s amazing what I find in there sometimes. Unfortunately, I keep finding stuff that is posted to this list that should have gone directly to my inbox but it is routed to the junk folder instead. So why is Gmail doing that? Any ideas?Thanks,Tom   



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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

I do have one of those lazy bracket neck mounts from B-Land And it was compatible with my phone. I also found that one on Amazon for about 25 bucks.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But as far as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully functional.
 


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I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.
I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.
If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough. 
 I won’t be holding my breath though, 😊.
 
 

 
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Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since
 I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone


 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:





I agree.
 


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We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon
 as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it
 is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality.
 One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.
 


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I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 

Cristóbal

 


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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
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We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



 

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After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear
 the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of
 a let down anyways.
 
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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

Well, that’s great but as for my phone the iPhone 14 it won’t support the intelligence from Apple and later updates so I can only speculate for my particular phone that it’s just gonna be kind of minor updates or at least some of the major updates minus the whole Siri, Lyft and Apple intelligence, which is fine for now until I get a later iPhone, which won’t be for quite some time. Right now I have to shave up to get one of those MagSafe three and one chargers I’m looking at the Anker Mag Go which I found from Amazon for $99.99 but has a coupon that’s 30% off which would be about $69 and some odd cents. normally on their store website it’s about $106 so this is pretty good. I have added it to my card and will buy it soon.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But as far as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully functional.
 


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I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.
I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.
If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough. 
 I won’t be holding my breath though, 😊.
 
 

 
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Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since
 I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone


 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:





I agree.
 


From:
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On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon
 as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it
 is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality.
 One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 

Cristóbal

 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

It was only software updates no new products announced.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:It was yesterday, June 10th, at 10 AM Pacific.You can watch it at this link:https://www.apple.com/apple-events/   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther LevegnaleSent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:56 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Hi,everyone, What time will this be held?  I'm looking forward to listening to the WWDC about the new phones that are coming out. Thanks. EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 11, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Chela Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> wrote:I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, 😊.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this 

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, 😊.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways. Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656886BFAF73A7000DAB3E8C7C62%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPho

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways. Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656886BFAF73A7000DAB3E8C7C62%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4CEF7E18-60B1-43E2-9350-2EAE1B519D3C%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators 

Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker

[Chela Robles]

Hello, you put the tablet one tablet in the reservoir wait for it to finish dissolving it usually takes about an hour if you’re doing this with cold water. And yes, they recommend you do two brew cycles for cleaning and then two cycles after you’re done cleaning of just regular water. But I always do three total brews for cleaning and then after that I do 3 brews of just water. I find that works out very well for me so to recap fill up the reservoir with water then put the tablet in the reservoir. Wait for an hour if you’re using cold water for it to dissolve otherwise you can use warm water for it if you want to speed things up, but I wouldn’t if I were you, and then I would do three brews of the solution and then dump whatever waters in there after the three brews and then do three brews of just regular water and you should be good to go. They are individually wrapped well packaged. I do one tablet per month. That’s why I bought the two boxes instead of one box so I could have at least two years worth before I have to buy it again. But if you’d like, you could also buy just the one years worth which is only 12 tablets and they are big enough that you only need to do one per month. Hope that helps. They are odorless.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2024, at 4:26 PM, Jen .  wrote:





Hi,
Thanks I am definitely going to try these tablets. Do you put the tablet in the reservoir or where do you place it in order for it to dissolve anything else you have to do after the tablet has been dissolved in machine

On Jun 9, 2024, at 6:35 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:




 I actually use these dissolvable tablets that are big. I get the package that has two boxes of 12 tablets and I do it once a month and it’s really great and it’s from amazon.com. Let me get this link to you. It works very well for me. All you
 have to do is, fill up the reservoir with water drop one tablet in and it should at least take an hour to dissolve if using cold water but if you wanted to use hot water to speed up the process of dissolving the tablets, then you could do that as well, but
 I prefer waiting and that’s why I choose to do it on a day where I’m not doing much so I can be focused on just one task and cleaning my awesome Keurig K select That I have had since April 6, 2018 it is purring like a baby kitten. The cool thing about these
 tablets is that they don’t smell like any sort of odors. I hate the smell of vinegar so I think these work just as well.








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They only have 16 left in stock thinking I’m gonna order mine soon anyways.

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On Jun 9, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:




I was not bothered with Wi-Fi with my Kurig or my Mainstay. Just plug in, and they work.


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Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 7:05 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker

I do have the K supreme plus coffee maker. It does have physical buttons. However, I did have to have my sighted wife help during the initial setup. Including connecting it to wifi. After the initial setup, it was quite easy to use.




   On Jun 8, 2024, at 5:36 PM,   wrote:

   All:
   My coffee pot died. I’m sad.
   So on hunt for coffee pot. Anyone know if the The K-Supreme Plus ™ Smart coffee maker has physical buttons or is touch scree?
   I know it can be controlled by Alexa, or Keurig app.
   Has anyone tried the Keuirg app? Is it accessible? 

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Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker

[Chela Robles]

I actually use these dissolvable tablets that are big. I get the package that has two boxes of 12 tablets and I do it once a month and it’s really great and it’s from amazon.com. Let me get this link to you. It works very well for me. All you have to do is, fill up the reservoir with water drop one tablet in and it should at least take an hour to dissolve if using cold water but if you wanted to use hot water to speed up the process of dissolving the tablets, then you could do that as well, but I prefer waiting and that’s why I choose to do it on a day where I’m not doing much so I can be focused on just one task and cleaning my awesome Keurig K select That I have had since April 6, 2018 it is purring like a baby kitten. The cool thing about these tablets is that they don’t smell like any sort of odors. I hate the smell of vinegar so I think these work just as well.Renuv Coffee Machine Descaler and Cleaner Tablets, 24 Uses for Keurig, Ninja, Breville, Delonghi, Nespresso, Miele, Jura, Mr Coffee, Cuisinart for Coffee Pot Maker & Espresso Machines (2 Boxes)a.coThey only have 16 left in stock thinking I’m gonna order mine soon anyways.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 9, 2024, at 10:39 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:I was not bothered with Wi-Fi with my Kurig or my Mainstay. Just plug in, and they work. -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry SmithSent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 7:05 AMTo: VIPhone Subject: Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee makerI do have the K supreme plus coffee maker. It does have physical buttons. However, I did have to have my sighted wife help during the initial setup. Including connecting it to wifi. After the initial setup, it was quite easy to use.     On Jun 8, 2024, at 5:36 PM,   wrote:    All:    My coffee pot died. I’m sad.    So on hunt for coffee pot. Anyone know if the The K-Supreme Plus ™ Smart coffee maker has physical buttons or is touch scree?    I know it can be controlled by Alexa, or Keurig app.    Has anyone tried the Keuirg app? Is it accessible?     --     The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.         If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.         Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu  . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com           The archives for this list can be searched at:    http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/    ---     You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.    To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com  .    To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01dab9eb%24f60b74d0%24e2225e70%24%40gmail.com  .-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com  .To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7A3261B6-8520-489B-BDC2-9A2FB40B53FB%40gmail.com  .-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7e3d01daba93%24fa226d50%24ee6747f0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker

[Chela Robles]

The Keurig K-Selectis the one I’ve had since 2018 and it’s still going strong. 
I just have to keep buying the brewing maintenance kit every three months.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2024, at 5:10 PM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Want one that will handle k cups and not have to constantly fill or turn on.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker
> 
> If you are wanting a one-cup coffee maker, the Mainstay at Wal-Mart for 
> around $20 may serve you well; it does me.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2024 5:37 PM
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> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The K-Supreme Plus T Smart coffee maker
> 
> All:
> 
> My coffee pot died. I’m sad.
> 
> So on hunt for coffee pot. Anyone know if the The K-Supreme Plus ™ Smart 
> coffee maker has physical buttons or is touch scree?
> 
> I know it can be controlled by Alexa, or Keurig app.
> 
> Has anyone tried the Keuirg app? Is it accessible?
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Re: Cannot sign into I cloud with Chrome.

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I did the very same thing that you described with jaws, NVDAand just for kicks narrator and everything worked fine as well chrome browser using Windows 11 as well.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 5, 2024, at 12:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I just tried it on my Windows 11 computer with both Chrome and Edge and had no issues. After I entered my Apple Id and password, Jaws focus was automatically in the first field of the 6 numbers, the message
 with the code popped up on my phone and I entered it without difficulties. The important thing to note is that as soon as you enter the first number, focus will jump to the next field and if you end up entering the number and pressing tab, you are skipping
 fields and it will not work. I usually review the number on my iPhone and memorize it, then I turn on NumLock on my computer and use the numeric pad to enter the six numbers. As I said, after each number you enter focus goes to the next box and after you enter
 the last number and as long as you entered them correctly, you will be logged in and in my case I was asked if I wanted to trust this browser which if I said Yes, I would not be prompted for 2-factor authentication next time I log in with that computer and
 browser.
I also deliberately entered the number incorrectly to see what happens and each time Jaws announced it was incorrect and focus again automatically jumped to the first number field. I did this twice with the
 same result and then I entered it correctly and I was logged into the iCloud website. I assume there is a limited number of attempts you are allowed for incorrect entries before it locks you out and you then may have to do something more elaborate to authenticate
 yourself.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
 


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That 6 digit  code entry can be annoying. Generally, once you do it though you won’t need to repeat the process.

As you indicated there are 6 fields. I would make sure you are on the first one, and then just behave as though it is one contiguous text field. It might be helpful to turn off the virtual cursor while entering the number, but I don’t believe
 that is necessary. (I haven’t done this process since 2017). Once all 6 numbers are entered then it automatically submits the numbers for validation, so don’t look for a submit button or press the enter key. 


 






On Jun 4, 2024, at 9:10 PM, Peter Tesar  wrote:

 


Hello,


 

I’m trying to access my I cloud accound using Windows 11 and Chrome.

On my iPhone 14, I have a passcode. I thought that it would get me into my I cloud account from any device.


 

Using the web site
icloud.com, I enter my eMail and password and a 6 digit access code is sent to my phone.

 

The problem is trying to enter the number into the 6 edit fields provided. When pressing each key, the number is announced. The cursor
 jumps to the next digit field until I get to the last field. 
Nothing happens. On reviewing the fields, they are empty. I keep hearing “invalid”.
I know that my eMail address and password are correct since I’m sent the access code.

 

I used Jaws and NVDA and both Chrome and Firefox.


 

When signing in, choosing the Forgot password link, requires the image test.

The audio challenge does not work for me.


 

Is it possible to use the passcode to access my I cloud account through Windows?

 

In the iPhone settings, I know where to change the passcode or turn it on or off.
The 2-factor authentication is on and I tried to turn it off but there is something about having a key. I'm confused.

 
Any suggestions?

 

Peter T.

 



 

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Re: for facebook app.

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I’ve tried reporting these problems with no success.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 12:22 PM, alban hoxha  wrote:





can we report this problem?





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Hi Alvin, for bug number one, just double tap on the link it will bring up the Lincoln question that is silent. It's not that there are no longer accessible, but where the link is it is silent. So you just have to double
 tap to figure out what it is. As far as the messenger bug. I don't really think that that bug went completely away. But maybe it will one day.


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hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
olsow can't access for add or axept friend request.
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Re: for facebook app.

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Yes, you nailed it and also may I add that reporting these things to Facebook is become very difficult. They say you can report these bugs to them by shaking the phone regarding the messenger issue. I tried that this morning and nothing happened after I pressed the continue button it landed me back to my home screen on my iPhone, which is weird, so there’s no way of getting a hold of anybody at Facebook to help them know what’s going on for screen reader users for both Facebook and messenger apps. There used to be some sort of accessibility team. I don’t know what’s going on with that since everything has changed and everything is metta now . Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:HiSo I’m not the only one who noticed these problemsIn my opinion since last half of year Facebook accessibility it gets worse and worseBasic things such as adding friend or removing is inaccessibleFacebook messenger has lost focus againNames on the links are also not accessibleThese problems exist since many months and it looks like they completely don’t careSent from my iPhoneOn 2 Jun 2024, at 3:26 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
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Re: for facebook app.

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Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





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facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
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Re: Phone Not Ringing

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Actually, Alan, there is still do not disturb. I just tested it out with Siri and I was able to toggle it on and off so she might want to try that. Then she can have someone test call her or something and see if the phone rings. And if she does have the volume set to 100%, which is very loud in my opinion, she’ll be able to really hear it. I usually have mine set to like half that. Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 8:44 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:Sandy, I'm with Sieghard and Richard on this one. It sounds as if Focus has been turned on on your device. Why they ever renamed Do not disturb to Focus is beyond me but they did. Focus contains the ability to have various named settings such as Sleep, Do not disturb, Work meeting, etc. You can check or set up these under Settings, Focus. As Sieghard posted, you can check whether Focus is currently turned on within the Control Center. I access the Control Center by placing focus on something in the topline status bar such as the time and doing a 3 finger swipe up. This will open the Control Center screen and you can follow Sieghard's excellent instructions to check it. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Definitely sounds like one o fthe focus modes like Do Not Disturb could be turned on. If you pull down from the top a little way to bring up control centre, you can then check on the left side of the screen about half way down where it
 says "Focus", if it only says "Focus" then it's fine, but if you hear something like "Focus, Do Not Disturb" or "Focus, Sleep" this means the Do Not Disturb or Sleep focus is is turned on and this would most likely cause all your calls to go straight to voice
 mail unless you set up exceptions in Settings > Focus to allow certain calls through or to allow notifications from certain apps.
Also keep in mind that if you go to Settings > Focus, it will tell you if any of the focus options is "on", but you can't turn it off from there, this has to be done via control centre and I believe you can also ask Siri to turn a particular
 focus on or off..
 


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When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause
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Re: Phone Not Ringing

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Either call Apple or your cell phone carrier maybe they can troubleshoot it with you. That is if silent mode is not enabled or blocking unknown callers is disabled. did you check if the volume slider is set to zero in the settings under sounds and vibration? If it’s turned up all the way is 100% then I would definitely suggest either try to reboot your phone and have someone do a call with you and if that doesn’t work, then I’d say definitely call your carrier or Apple. At least if Apple can’t fix it hopefully your carrier could.  Sent from my iPhoneOn May 14, 2024, at 6:31 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:The two things I think of when this is happening for people is:1. Is Do Not Disturb on?2. Is Silence Unknown Callers on under settings phone? I hope it helps. If not, I'd call Apple.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On May 14, 2024, at 6:15 AM, Sandra Finley  wrote:When people call me my  cell phone automatically goes to  voice mail. It does not ring at all. And yes, I know the difference between Ring Mode and Silent Mode and my phone is most definitely in the former.  What other settings could cause this behavior?  Thank you.



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Re: The Accessibility of a Particular Metronome iPhone App

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Try Tonal Energy Chromatic Tuner. It has a metronome that is what you want. It's accessible. On the app store it goes by the name, TE Tuner. I use it all the time when I practice.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 12, 2024, at 8:49 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:I am so sorry. I did not look it up on Applevis. I should have, and I didn't even think about it. I think I spent more time playing with it and after frustration, I just went to the list. My apologies.Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!On May 12, 2024, at 8:46 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hello Jim,Have you looked this app up on appleVis? It's fine to ask here, but someone may have written it up in the app directory there.HTH,AnnaOn May 12, 2024, at 10:40 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:Hello there friends and list members,I am needing to get a good metronome app that goes beyond the basics. I’m needing one that is easy to set and that allows for particular sub beats to be set as well.The app my music teacher is using is called ProMetronome, and it does some fantastic stuff. However, I don’t know if it is just operator error, but I haven’t found it to be very accessible or useable. Some of the buttons don’t seem to be labeled, and I can’t tell how to set a particular tempo or beats per minute.Before I write to the app developer, I wanted to know if anyone has used it or if other people find it useable and maybe I am the one missing something. I don’t want to write a developer and give him a whole deal about accessibility to blind people when other blind people are using the app just fine. I hope you don’t mind if I brought this up on the list.If this is not a useable app, does anyone have a good app that can be used with the phone? I’m using Tempo Perfect, but to set it, I have to literally slide my finger up and down through the beats per minute, and if I’m going from 60 to 160, I would like a better way. Any help would be appreciated.Jim -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/009f01daa4e7%243e0693b0%24ba13bb10%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Pinch Gesture On Apple Watch Ultra 2

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Same here and I own the original ultra.Sent from my iPhoneOn Apr 30, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Tai Tomasi  wrote:I can confirm that I too am unable to get this to work using voiceover.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Apr 30, 2024, at 5:32 PM, Edward Przybylek  wrote:Hi all, I’ve been trying to turn on pinch gestures on my Apple watch Ultra 2.  So far, no luck.  I called Apple accessibility support and, after half an hour, the representative told me she didn’t believe the feature works when using VoiceOver at the same time.  I thought I’d write to the list and see if this is the case.  Has anyone gotten this feature to work?  If so, could you please pass on any tips you have that might get the pinch and other gestures working on my watch.  As always, any help is greatly appreciated. Take care,Ed Przybylek 



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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

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I already solved the issue Alex thanks to the prior solution given by someone 
else. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 27, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Alex Stone  
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> Why do you want to clear it? It’s not doing any harm.
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2024, at 14:42, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, 
>> then I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no 
>> way to clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general 
>> shut down.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

Thank you for the fix it worked that was so weird. Never had this issue before. 
Bookmarking This for future reference.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:41 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
> 
> When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then 
> I tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
> clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut 
> down.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for 
>> some reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting 
>> up, just hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command 
>> next if that solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an 
>> outage of some sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and 
>> siri? I did restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 
>> 14. I can't even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
>> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

When I go to the status bar running IOS 17.4.1 I see microphone in use, then I 
tap it and it displays siri and dictation are in use but there is no way to 
clear it. Unless I manually power off the device in settings general shut down.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 26, 2024, at 6:07 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
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> Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
> reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
> hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
> solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some 
> sort like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did 
> restart my phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't 
> even summon apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
> Sent from my iPhone

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Dictation and Siri acting weird on my IPhone 14 which I've rebooted

[Chela Robles]

Whenever I try to use dictation from the keyboard that is onscreen, for some 
reason, it's not working properly as it should. Also, Siri is acting up, just 
hangs when I press the power button but I will try "hey" command next if that 
solves my issue, but am generally wondering if Apple has an outage of some sort 
like they did in the past in regards to dictation and siri? I did restart my 
phone and still have the same problem. Using iphone 14. I can't even summon 
apps to be launched with siri.  Any thoughts?
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Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

[Chela Robles]

Try YouMail. I do not personally utilize it but have read about it on applevis 
long ago.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Verizon is better than some at stopping those calls, I don't get many 
> of them any more. Or, maybe it is that I simply don't answer the call if I 
> don't recognize the number or it says the contact name, unless I am expecting 
> a call whose number I may not recognize.   I figured that the telemarketing 
> systems would catch onto the fact that I never answered their calls and would 
> delete my number after a while. If it is a legitimate call, let them leave a 
> voice mail and I will call back.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt  
> 
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
> 
> On Apr 11, 2024, at 12:36 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Hi Larry,
> This might not be what you want to hear, but I am also a T-Mobile user, and 
> never found Scam Shield all that great. So what I do is the nuclear approach, 
> which means I have set the setting in my iPhone so that the only calls that 
> ring through are those in my contacts. I get notifications if there’s a 
> voicemail, And the bad side of this of course is that if you’re getting a 
> call from somebody that’s not in your contacts, you’re going to have to call 
> them back. So that’s the downside. The upside is I don’t get spam calls on my 
> phone ever. It’s worth it to me.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 11, 2024, at 5:58 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
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>> Hello list members. I was wondering if anyone is using an app to monitor 
>> and screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield 
>> does not do a very good job at least for me. I have used both the free and 
>> premium version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, 
>> but their subscription service went from $24.99 to $74.99. I don’t mind the 
>> subscription increase so much. It didn’t always work as advertised. So, 
>> before I decided to renew or not, I thought I would ask what app others on 
>> this list might be using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get 
>> id to work properly. Thanks
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Re: Mobile phone unwanted and scam monitoring.

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I don’t have it, but I’ve read about something called UMail Perhaps I got the 
spelling of it wrong but try to google either UMail or YouMail. 
Sent from my iPhone

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> screen calls on their mobile phone. I am a t-mobile user. Scam shield does 
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> version. I was using robokiller until this month. It did an ok job, but their 
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> this list might be using. I have also tried TrueCaller but Just couldn’t get 
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TIME: Blind People Can Hear and Feel 2024's Total Solar Eclipse With New Technology

[Chela Robles]

Hey guys, check this out! Thought this was very interesting to share with you all. Fun note this is my first time sharing an article from Apple news to email so hopefully I did this right. Using my iPhone 14 with voiceover.Blind People Can Hear and Feel 2024's Total Solar Eclipse With New TechnologyWhile eclipse watchers look to the skies, people who are blind or visually impaired will be able to hear and feel the celestial event. Sound and touch devices will be available at public gatherings on April 8, when a total solar eclipse crosses North America, the moon blotting out the sun for a few minutes. “Eclipses are very beautiful things, and everyone should be able to experience it once in their lifetime,” said Yuki Hatch, a high school senior in Austin, Texas. Hatch is a visually impairedRead in TIME: https://apple.news/A4LklMr3DRtGOaTSfBQQ9QgShared from Apple NewsSent from my iPhone



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Re: codes to send text from PC Email program to cell phones.

[Chela Robles]

That list is got to be like 20 years old. I remember Nextel! that’s when I 
turned 19 and had my first phone. Same phone number after 20 years.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2024, at 12:08 AM, 'Curtis Delzer' via VIPhone 
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> Hi all! How to send to Spectrum, AT&T, all the major players. where do I 
> find that info?
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> I know that the phone number is important, but the codes per provider, that 
> is what I wish.
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Re: MIT Accessibility Club Blind Survey

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Thanks for sharing the Survey. I took it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2024, at 4:50 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:
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> Hi Cara.  What's hack-a-phon?
> Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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> Hi All,
> 
> My apologies for the cross-post. As a note, While I do know folks who are 
> affiliated with this group, I am not, so I have no more info on this project 
> than the below message. I wanted to share this in case anyone is interested.
> 
> Thanks so much and have a terrific weekend!
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Cara
> 
> —
> 
> The MIT Accessibility Club is looking for feedback from blind and visually 
> impaired users of tech to help them understand some of the problems with 
> accessibility. The club works with disabled individuals to solve problems in 
> a hack-a-thon style using software and hardware. The survey can be found at:
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

[Chela Robles]

Well, I figured out what the bullet sign meant. In this case when using the characters in the rotor, using voiceover, it refers to when it comes to the clock or displaying time in the lock screen, that symbol is a narrow no break  space.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
Did you report this problem to Apple?
Dave


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Hi
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I've
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really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar.
When you are using another rotor language, other than the
default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
 
Cheers
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Re: Voice Over bug with Rotor Languages and the Status Bar on iOS 17.4

[Chela Robles]

I have also noticed a minor bug with voiceover and braille display more specifically when it comes to displaying time in general and not sure if this is a new standard but when I see the time in the clock like the current time, and also on the locked screen, I see for example, 12:34•PM displayed on the braille display. I have the e-reader from Humanware and NLS, and the Humanware Brailliant BI-X-40. Anyone notice this? Usually there is supposed to be a space between the time and whether it's AM or PM. Is this a new braille UEB rule I should take into consideration  or am I crazy? I've never seen time written like that. Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 8, 2024, at 6:39 AM, David Grossoehme  wrote:

  

  
  
Did you report this problem to Apple?
Dave


On 3/6/2024 4:31 AM, Debbie April
  Yuille wrote:


  
  
  
  
Hi
All
I've
just installed iOS and iPad OS 17.4 and I've noticed a
really strange bug with rotor languages and the status bar.
When you are using another rotor language, other than the
default, every time you move to the status bar, by either
placing your finger on it, or using the shortcut. VO will
switch to the default language when reading. Then when I
move away from the status bar, it reverts to whatever
language I'm currently using. I've tried uninstalling then
re installing the rotor languages and still the problem
persists. This occurs on both my iPad mini 6 and my iPhone
14 pro.
It's
not a total disaster, but I'm hoping that Apple will release
another update soon, and hopefully the bug will go away.
 
Cheers
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Re: Siri is having issues

[Chela Robles]

I wonder how accessible all three apps are going to be with screen reader users like with NVDA and jaws for example, they’re probably testing it with narrator since it’s built-in with it regarding windows, but I could be very wrong in that regard just was wondering what are the links for all the User manuals for these three apps, TV, music and devices. I did see the one with the devices but what about the other two or is there a main link that could just grab all three manuals from? I’m just really curious I use Windows 11 on a Dell Inspiron, 15, 5510 laptop . I’m also using NVDA latest version and Jaws 2024 latest build. And I do occasionally use narrator, but my primary is jaws, even though I have the other third-party screen reader on their non-visual desktop access.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 10, 2024, at 10:35 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I’m sure it will be temporary, and in fact, as of this minute, it is working fine again.It probably cleared up by the time I sent my message.My main point in sending that was to say, sometimes, Siri servers are acting up and you can try another service like Alexa or Google and know it is the service, not your wi-fi.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James BentleySent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 10:04 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Siri is having issues Here in East Texas, Siri is working fine.  I Hope you are only experienceing a temporary local outage. James B   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 12:00 PMTo: ViPone list Subject: Siri is having issues I just asked Siri a couple questions, it just made a noise that sounded like someone tapping on a metal drum, then said, something went wrong. I launched the Amazon Alexa app and asked Alexa, and got an answer. I went back to Siri and got the same noise and something went wrong. That tells me it is not my wi-fi,  but the Siri server.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3F66E659-B45B-45CF-8E50-20254FAE174D%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/008501da5c4b%248d049000%24a70db000%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: About the Raycon Everyday Earbuds was Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Chela Robles]

I personally would have gone with something other than Apple AirPods, but I got those for Christmas a few years ago or at least when the second generation AirPods Pro came out not sure when that was but anyway all that being said, I probably would’ve gone with something different but I got what I got and I’m not working right now so I can’t afford to get any of these cause They all sound good but I hope whoever benefits greatly from any recommendations will make a good decision that works best for them. Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 10, 2024, at 8:00 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Chela mentioned Sam’s Blind Life review of the Raycon Everyday earbuds.  Below is the link to Sam’s review on Youtube.  He says they have 8 hours of play time and 32 total by charging them in their case, the case can be charged wirelessly.  USBC cable included but of course, like everyone else, no charging block.Regular price $79.99 but if you go through his site to buy them and use the code Blind Life, you get a discount.  He says the sound is very good.  Others that have reviewed them were not so high on the sound quality, but sound, as we know, is very subjective.  You have 30 days to return them.  They are the in-ear earbuds with a variety of different sized tips to fit a wide audience.They have a 1 year warranty.  I personally don’t like things in my ears, which is why I have the regular Shokz OpenRun at $90.  They probably give a solid 6 hours, and maybe more, of listening on one charge and have a 2 year warranty.Here is the link to the Blind Life review of the Everyday Earbuds.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtwjLbI4z20 HTH, Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone

[Chela Robles]

Interesting have you ever heard of Raycon Everyday Earbuds? Sam from The Blind 
Life reviewed them and they seem neat as well. I own the Apple AirPods Pro, not 
sure which version but I know it has very small eartips one can install. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2024, at 3:56 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
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> Thank you for this and I am sorely tempted to go ahead and order same.
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
> 
> Someone else said they are two separate ear pieces with a hook over your ear 
> to stay on.
> This is from the web site:
> 7 hours of battery life with a single charge Up to 28 hours total listening 
> time with the charging case A quick 5-minute charge provides 1 hour of 
> listening time
> IP54 Water Resistance
> OpenFit features IP54 water resistance and is designed with a double-layer 
> waterproof steel mesh and gauze for additional protection and enhanced sound 
> performance.
> 
> You can read the entire info at:
> https://shokz.com/products/openfit
> 
> I would compare prices with Amazon.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
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> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
> 2024.2310.70.400
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mohib 
> Anwar Rafay
> Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 6:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit 
> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
> 
> Does the Open fit come as individual pod or are these tied to each other in 
> order to prevent from falling? How do we recharge them and whats the battery 
> backup for one charge in open fit? I have open com with boom mic and its just 
> fine for calls.
> 
>> On 2/9/24, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> CJ,
>> I cannot speak to the OpenFit, but the OpenRun has no delay. Since you
>> can return them for a refund fairly easily with Amazon and I suspect
>> Shokz themselves, I'd give them a try. Again, I have the OpenFit ones
>> that cost about $90 that are the bone conduction that loop behind your
>> head and have the hooks like a pair of glasses that go in front of
>> your ear from the back and rest on the bone just in front of your ears.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
>> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through
>> Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:49 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It does sound like the Open Fit would be the answer for me, provided
>>> that I don't have lag when inputting text, which is the problem I
>>> have had with the other devices I've tried.
>>> Alison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 5:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hello Allison,
>>> 
>>> If you are seeking an Air Pods replacement for general indoor and
>>> outdoor use, I would definitely recommend the Open Fit model as, for
>>> all intent and purposes, they work the same as the Air Pods with the
>>> added advantage of having a tiny hook that goes behind the ear,
>>> keeping them firmly in place.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of CJ & AA MAY
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:01 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> These sound really interesting and may be just what I need.
>>> A few months ago I purchased the Apple Airpods Generation 3 and,
>>> although they meet my needs, they are really poorly designed as I
>>> struggle to keep them in my ears and would certainly not risk going
>>> outdoors with them. I have tried other airpods but found they lagged when 
>>> inputting text.
>>> So, what I'm asking Is, do you have this issue with either the Open
>>> Run Pro bone conducting Bluetooth headsets or the Open Fit model and
>>> do you have a preference? If so, why?
>>> Alison
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Mark on the Aftershock (Shock) Open Run Pro and Open Fit
>>> Bluetooth Headphones for iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> A

Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Chela Robles]

Yeah, I installed it and it seems pretty minor on my end. As far as features go 
I use a 14.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 3:08 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report?
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Asking Siri to restart this device

[Chela Robles]

It's a soft reset. Also you can tell Siri to shut down this device to turn it 
off but note you have to manually start it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 18, 2024, at 12:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not find anything that specifies which it is.
> I would assume a soft reset, but you know what happens when you assume.
> I'd suggest calling apple Accessibility: 877-204-3930
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
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> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
> Kramlinger
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Asking Siri to restart this device
> 
> Hi,
> When asking Siri to restart this device, is that a hard reset or a soft reset?
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do?

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iOS 17 introduced new sounds that’s the only thing I can come up with. But they still have the older sounds.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 27, 2023, at 7:02 AM, Rena  wrote:Do you have any idea why it changed? It happened some days after update to iOS 17. Rena  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 11:59 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do? Go to the Settings app go to where it says sounds and vibrations and go to where it says ringtone double tap on that and then you’ll see an option for whatever kind of tones you want. You can scroll through them and pick what that sounds good to you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, Suddenly, my iPhone SE iOS 17, has a different sound when I receive a call. The ring is too soft and short. Is there any way to have the same ring that I had before?Why did it change? Rena-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00b901da3810%242e0d80c0%248a288240%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/790F3665-3DD4-47AB-9301-EC3C33D0967D%40gmail.com.



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Re: My phone sounds different. What can I do?

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Go to the Settings app go to where it says sounds and vibrations and go to where it says ringtone double tap on that and then you’ll see an option for whatever kind of tones you want. You can scroll through them and pick what that sounds good to you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, Suddenly, my iPhone SE iOS 17, has a different sound when I receive a call. The ring is too soft and short. Is there any way to have the same ring that I had before?Why did it change? Rena



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Re: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app for iOS

[Chela Robles]

I second You version Bible app it works very well with a braille display. I 
usually connect my e-reader from NLS and take it obviously to church with me 
and read the Bible that way when I follow along with the congregation when the 
pastor reads certain passages.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
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> I like Dwell.
> It is a paid app, but it offers the Bible in several versions and many kinds 
> of daily devotionals all read in human voices with several voices to choose 
> from.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "M. Taylor" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 1:44 PM
> Subject: Seeking Recommendations for a Good VoiceOver Accessible Bible app 
> for iOS
> 
> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, I asked, a couple of years ago but, as you know, much can change in
>> that amount of time so:
>> 
>> Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, stand-alone, Bible app for iOS
>> that, hopefully, can display different versions of the Holy Bible?  The app
>> does not have to be free.
>> 
>> I am thinking that I will read it, primarily, with a Braille display.
>> 
>> If there are no stand-alone apps, that you can recommend, then a web-based
>> app will do, as long as it is easily accessible via VoiceOver / a Braille
>> display.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
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Siri

[Chela Robles]

Hello everybody I’m just wondering if you guys have any issues with Siri in iOS 
17.2 where in you launch an app and it says it’s having difficulties. I 
restarted my phone thinking that that would solve the issue and it’s not 
solving the issue so I have to manually start my apps, or at least some of them 
like for instance the watch app. 
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Re: App to see power light?

[Chela Robles]

Hello Kimberly sorry to hear of your loss. My condolences to you. I could be 
wrong, but I thought seeing AI had a light detector in the app where it could 
emit a low tone for no light or a higher tone for recognition of light being on 
I know I can do this with my Envision glasses, but I haven’t found it in the 
app. .
Sent from my iPhone

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> Hello,
> 
> My husband recently died so I no longer have sighted help.  Sometimes my 
> internet goes down or I think it has.  I’m looking for an app that will 
> either tell me if the power light is on and/or what color it is.
> 
> 
> As always,
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kim
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Re: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case.

[CHELA Robles]

That is the compartment of the case that where the mute switch is for the iPhone.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 30, 2023, at 2:47 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi this is a oderbox defender case and it is round like a button. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: November 30, 2023 5:34 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: I just got a new i phone 14 and have one questiona bout one of the buttons on the case. You didn't say exactly what kind of case. But that is where the mute switch is located. On iPhone 15's that is a button. On all previous models, it is a switch/lever that when pushed jtoward the back, mutes the tones, and when push toward the screen unmutes.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Nov 30, 2023, at 2:28 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi all I just got a I phone 14 and am charging it as I speek. I have a question about one of the buttons on the case. It is round and looks like the old hedphone jackit is small and it is above the buttons for volume up and down. What does that button do? From Mich.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001f01da23dc%24971eb400%24c55c1c00%24%40eastlink.ca.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/85BFC24D-C674-4336-864A-DA0146CAB1A1%40comcast.net.



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Re: Power Bank Etc. For iPhone and Storms

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Hello, that ATGuys sells a power bank maybe even a couple of them that have 
beeping and vibration functions. They are the ones by Innergrid.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Margaret Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Hi, All:
> 
> Could someone recommend a power bank or something similar to use with my 
> iPhone SE 2020 (SE 2) for power outages from storms etc.?  I am not a techie 
> and sighted assistance is normally not available.  So, Be My Eyes etc. would 
> have to be called upon for something visual.  I recently heard about some 
> models from Energrid that are supposed to be portable and accessible sold by 
> Atguys,  which I've heard about, but have never dealt with.
> 
> I've heard about Anker products recommended many times on lists and I have an 
> Amazon gift certificate.  The iPhone is my only Apple product, but if there 
> is some way I could also connect either my Victor Reader Stream 2 or VRS 3, 
> that would be great.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
> 
> Margaret
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Re: Be My Eyes Refusing to Open

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According to AppleVis, it's a bug. Hopefully several people have written them 
about it.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2023, at 6:04 AM, Kelby Carlson  wrote:
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> Last night I attempted to use Be My AI to describe a photo, and Be My
> Eyes told me I had "reached my quota" and to check my plan. I checked
> the app store and there was an update, so I assumed that would fix the
> problem. Once the app updated, it started refusing to open at all--I
> would double tap on the app and absolutely nothing would happen. I
> have already uninstalled and reinstalled the app. Is this happening to
> anyone else?
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Re: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023

[CHELA Robles]

It’s actually part of Be My Eyes I believe at least that’s how I’ve always been 
able to activate the AI feature where it describes photos.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 3:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Just a bit more info, but when you pull up the App Store, you need to tap on 
> the Search tab in the lower right hand corner. The search field is at the top 
> of the screen, and it's labeled "Games, Apps, Stories and More" so it's easy 
> to miss that it's a edit field, since you have to listen to all of that 
> before you hear that it's an edit field.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rob 
> Armstrong
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 5:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI is just one of the features of the Be My Eyes app.  If you already 
> have the Be My Eyes app, you already have Be My AI.
> 
> If you need to install it, go to the app store, search for Be My Eyes, and 
> download it.  Yes, Be My Eyes is free.
> 
> When you first use Be My Eyes, I think you have to enter your email address 
> to create an account.
> 
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 6:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> I am going to try to download Be My AI. So, please tell me, I go to the App 
> Store. Do I have to do something about passwords. Does Search just come up 
> like in Google on my Computer. Is the app free?
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 3:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> Be My AI Mentioned Amongst TIME Best Inventions of 2023
> 
> 
> The new AI Describer for people who are blind or have low vision is featured 
> in the AI Category
> 
> By Michele Paris, Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Michele Paris
> 
> Marketing and Communications Manager
> 
> 
> 
> Be My AI, the  first-of-its-kind digital visual assistant powered by GPT-4, 
> was mentioned amongst the Time Best Invention of 2023 
>   
> thanks to the collaboration between Be My Eyes and OpenAI. The annual list 
> features the most groundbreaking inventions, including new products and 
> ideas, that TIME editors have identified as "life changing".
> 
> "Be My Eyes is proud to be mentioned among the brilliant innovations included 
> in TIME's Best Inventions 2023 list with Be My AI. This new tool is providing 
> people who are blind or have low vision with a better way to address everyday 
> needs and acquire tools and visual descriptions never before possible," said 
> Michael Buckley, CEO of Be My Eyes. "We are grateful to TIME for this 
> incredible recognition, as we work to create a more accessible world for 
> people of all abilities."
> 
> This acknowledgment comes after a week from Be My Eyes' celebrations for 
> officially reaching 1,000,000 chats on Be My AI. As of today, over 5,500 
> blind people are accessing Be My AI every day, asking over 30,000+ questions 
> daily to the AI-powered tool.
> 
> "The new feature of having an AI assistant, specifically Be My AI, has truly 
> been a game-changer for me. It allows me to experience the world in a whole 
> new way by providing detailed descriptions of various things," says Malak, 
> who has been beta testing Be My AI since March. "Thanks to Be My AI, I now 
> have the ability to enjoy visual experiences and share moments in ways that 
> were once unimaginable. Be My Eyes' contribution has made a significant 
> impact on our lives, and we are incredibly thankful for their invaluable 
> support."
> 
> Be My AI is currently available for all Be My Eyes users on iOS. We have 
> already started closed beta testing Be My AI for Android devices and our goal 
> is to move it to broadly-available open beta status in the coming months. It 
> is already possible to sign up on the waitlist for Android beta testing in 
> the Be My Eyes app.
> 
> To keep updated about Be My AI, make sure to follow Be My Eyes on LinkedIn 
>  , X 
> 
>  , Facebook  , Instagram 
>  , Mastodon 
>   and TikTok 
>  .
> 
> See the full list of 2023 TIME Best Inventions

Re: Siri continues to be the dumbest of all dumb assistance.

[CHELA Robles]

I hate it when siri doesn't finish confirmation of messages I send to people, 
it beeps prior and cuts itself off midsentence so I feel I have to manually 
send it either using dictation or braille screen input. It’s been doing that 
ever since I upgraded to iOS 17 and I have iOS 17.1 now. Any Anybody having 
this issue where Siri cuts itself off? Are there any solutions around it? Has 
Has this bug been reported to Apple?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2023, at 11:36 AM, leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hmm, Siri the dumbest and the most expensive, where did I see that? Oh yes, 
> Las Vegas! Viva Las Vegas!
> 
> Best,
> Leo Bado
> 
> "Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."
> Elbert Hubbard
> 
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Re: iPhone 12 pro + messenger

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I highly doubt that they will, though Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2023, at 9:30 AM, Afik Souffir  wrote:








It’s a bug in Messenger and Meta need to fix it.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of CHELA Robles
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages
 it’s weird thing it’s it’s 





Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages it’s weird thing it’s it’s
 been updated and all that stuff it’s weird in my opinion.

Sent from my iPhone






On Oct 16, 2023, at 7:21 AM, Ann M Medlar <amedl...@gmail.com> wrote:





Hi all,
I open messenger and have messages going back over 10 years.  Never saw them before today.
I did send message back 10 years ago but no idea why they are showing up now.
Any gesture to go to bottom of messages in messenger?
I believe I am at bottom.  
VO states 
11 pages 100% adjustable 
TabBar selected chats  
Last message before this is dated October 4 2009
Thanks,
Ann
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPhone 12 pro + messenger

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Yeah, I see whenever I respond to a message. It jumps me way back in the thread and I have to lock the phone in order to unlock it again and then get back to Messenger and then go to work the most recent messages it’s weird thing it’s it’s been updated and all that stuff it’s weird in my opinion.Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 16, 2023, at 7:21 AM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:Hi all,I open messenger and have messages going back over 10 years.  Never saw them before today.I did send message back 10 years ago but no idea why they are showing up now.Any gesture to go to bottom of messages in messenger?I believe I am at bottom.  VO states 11 pages 100% adjustable TabBar selected chats  Last message before this is dated October 4 2009Thanks,Ann Any ideas how this happened?  



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Re: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

[CHELA Robles]

I rebooted my phone. Not sure if you guys were able to get my audio demonstration but here it is.Voiceover Native Mail App Issue IOS17 Iphone 14.m4adropbox.comSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 19, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:I use the "Mark as Read" option all the time and have no issues with it reading anything in a strange way.Maybe try and reboot your phone.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA RoblesSent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encounteredRunning IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it sounds. It doesn’t matter what voice you use by the way I’ve used to them all in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, just thought I’d let you know.Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/79349500-76B4-4FE6-92CC-2665CC9B0748%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56563059197397566A607653C7FAA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

[CHELA Robles]

Running IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in 
a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as 
read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate 
that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds 
like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the 
letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are 
all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just 
for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it 
sounds. It doesn’t matter what voice you use by the way I’ve used to them all 
in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least 
this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, 
just thought I’d let you know.
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Re: Check out this Be My Eyes Blog

[CHELA Robles]

Very interesting indeed, Malcolm.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2023, at 3:52 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
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> Hey there,
> I just read a cool blog on Be My Eyes and wanted to send it your way! Give it 
> a read.
> 
> ' Story: Image to Text AI and Blurred Faces: What’s Going On?
> https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/image-to-text-ai-and-blurred-faces-whats-going-on?fbclid=IwAR01TmNb8QezfUyTMqJkvDYgXwkVCayTWea7jaRv-gRFgC2sbRziTmIkOsw_aem_AU15WHXN4QPZZ6knxPdIBJDg1bO1IFU9kR-g4dNlEb8S_5kfFDySwih-nqH7HqAg_Mc
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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

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Here are my thoughts.
I think it’s fine to look at photos with them, but it would be great to know 
how many people are in the photos now whether it’s a man or a woman, it doesn’t 
really matter to me as long as I can figure out what the faces actually look 
like or at least try to find a particular photo which I actually did find 
before they went ahead and changed everything. I wanted to find a photo of me 
personally looking at all the instruments on top of this wall that has cork 
patterns. It’s really really cool and voiceover just says  Woman, spotlight, 
trumpet, saxophone and that’s about it but what it did say with be, my AI was a 
lot more descriptive. It actually described what I was wearing and the color of 
my hair and that I was actually wearing glasses and was feeling various 
instruments and it started to name some instruments, and then it said  That 
there were cork patterns from wine bottles and this was the one I really wanted 
to know about because I wanted to share it with a particular person and they 
thought it was really cool that I was able to locate it successfully on my own. 
And that was just my camera roll and my camera roll has a lot of photos. 
Obviously I wouldn’t want it to say oh look this is Chela Robles that would be 
a little creepy. It would also be creepy if it found out that I was straight 
and not a lesbian. I mean it wouldn’t technically know, but I’m just saying…
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 18, 2023, at 1:54 PM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
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> My feeling is that a sighted person can take a photo and then see the face, 
> whether or not the person gave their permission. These apps as far as I know 
> won't identify people, merely describe them, so what is wrong with that?
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
> Seeing and other similar apps should do facial recognition. I get it that 
> many people don't want to have their face recognized and I don't think blind 
> people's right to have faces recognized trumps the public's rights not to 
> have theirs recognized.
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Fwd: [Tech-VI] OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition

[CHELA Robles]

Title: OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition
Greetings everybody please let me know if you receive this message or at least one person. Please let me know if this message came through. This is very important to read regarding the facial recognition. The issue that we’ve all been having with Be My Eyes or be my AI. I got this from David Goldfield.Sent from my iPhoneBegin forwarded message:From: David Goldfield Date: September 18, 2023 at 2:38:17 AM PDTTo: List Subject: [Tech-VI] OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognitionReply-To: tech...@groups.io







https://the-decoder.com/openai-doesnt-want-gpt-4-to-be-used-for-facial-recognition/






OpenAI doesn't want GPT-4 to be used for facial recognition

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 19, 2023





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Multimodal models can recognize images and describe their content. This includes images of people, which could prove problematic.
The New York Times reports that OpenAI currently masks faces in images and does not allow

GPT-4 to process them with image recognition.
This particularly affects blind people, who are using GPT-4 with image enhancement in the

"Be My Eyes" experiment to get detailed descriptions of the environment as well as people. The description of the environment is still available, but the description of the people has recently been disabled and the faces on the images are blurred.
GPT-4 with image capabilities can recognize prominent people, such as OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, of whom it has seen many images in AI training. GPT-4 will not recognize people who do not appear in many images available on the Internet.
As a result, its identification and monitoring capabilities are nowhere near as extensive as those of AI systems such as

Clearview AI or PimEyes, which are optimized for this scenario and can identify people in images based on fine details.
Beyond identification, however, OpenAI faces more problems when analyzing faces: Even if the person in an image is unknown, he or she can be described and associated with the wrong gender or emotional state, for example.
With hundreds of millions of users, this could lead to numerous complaints. In addition, the image analysis is said to be strong enough to

bypass common captcha systems.
Misidentifications, where the model correctly identifies a person's role as CEO, for example, but assigns the wrong name to that role, are also possible, says Sandhini Agarwal, OpenAI policy researcher.
"We very much want this to be a two-way conversation with the public. If what we hear is like, ‘We actually don’t want any of it,’ that’s something we’re very on board with," says Agarwal.

Microsoft and Google also block facial recognition
Google's chatbot Bard also offers image analysis. Currently,
 Bard refuses to make statements about images of known and unknown people and deletes an uploaded image of a person without further inquiry. Google's Lens visual search, on the other hand, recognizes an image of Sam Altman and correctly identifies him.
Microsoft
 is also integrating visual image search into Bing Chat. After uploading an image of a person, Bing Chat indicates that the image will be blurred "for privacy reasons." However, the chatbot will offer recommendations on how to find the person through Google
 Images, social media, or TinEyes.





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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

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Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Ugg.I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed and re-opened the app and fictures worked. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was open for us to peruse and report issues.  I’ll give you an example. I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better! Get Outlook for iOSFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?  Hello, There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis. The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something to do with Open AI themselves. I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike anything we’ve ever known! Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to shame! Take a look at:   Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game Changing Real-World Use Casesapplevis.com Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I wrote to complain about that. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> wrote: I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last time. Here is the email address again to write into.supp...@bemyeyes.com On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote: I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. Best regards.Jerry Mader On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is light grey.This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it started doing this? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You

Re: Be My Eyes and cards

[CHELA Robles]

Hey Richard, I wrote to the developer. Hopefully I will hear back sometime 
regarding this issue. That’s weird because it used to work very well and now 
it’s just crazy. I don’t know why they changed it or maybe somethings wrong 
with the AI server. Not on their end? I’ll keep you posted I promise.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:01 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just received a card in the mail. My wife read it to me, then I decided to 
> see what Be My Eyes would do with it. It is amazing! It read the text which 
> was in a cursive font. Then I took a picture of the inside of the card where 
> the people had written a message. It read it perfectly! And, the person 
> writing had put a heart before the signature and it even described the heart. 
> Now, if they would unblock pictures of people, it would be a perfect app. 
> 
> 
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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

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I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
> rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the 
> last time. Here is the email address again to write into.
> supp...@bemyeyes.com
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader  wrote:
>> 
>> I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 
>> and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I 
>> think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be 
>> my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to 
>> think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least 
>> you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much 
>> feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really 
>> hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just 
>> recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like 
>> now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very 
>> very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI 
>> should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. 
>> Best regards.
>> Jerry Mader
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in 
>>> describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying 
>>> that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a 
>>> placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it 
>>> may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is 
>>> light grey.
>>> This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as 
>>> be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it 
>>> started doing this? 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I upgraded from series 5 to the ultra that sleeps bigger than what I had. 
I only wish I had kept my Milanese loop because I like that loop but I know I 
can find other loops or sport watch type of bands on Amazon cheaper than an 
apple. I like the trail loop that I have. It’s the trail loop band. It has 
Velcro it’s nice but I wish I had a second band. Maybe I’ll buy one a metal one 
or something.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2023, at 12:25 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> The ultra is one sexy watch. I have tried it on a few times, and to me
> isn't not that big of a jump from the 44 or 45. Everyone one is
> different though.
> 
>> On 9/15/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple
>> Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and
>> battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
>> Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting
>> such a large watch?
>> Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately
>> isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700
>> miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple
>> Watch here mostly in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these
>> stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of
>> our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be
>> willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received an answer within 15
>> minutes.
>> Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000
>> where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I
>> have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the
>> only blind guy with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me
>> by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow
>> to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to
>> say about especially if you may have had a regular Apple Watch before and
>> upgraded to an Ultra last year.
>> 
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Re: Apple Watch Ultra, who has one and would you buy it again?

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I have one and I really like it and if this one ever dies on me, I would buy another one but I’d have to save up for that first so the long answer is save up first then buy it unless there are installment plans which I don’t think there are I had to save up for my Apple Watch Ultra locally I still have AppleCare for it and I pay $4.99 a month for AppleCare. Bought it for my birthday this year.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 15, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Subject more or less says it. We are considering upgrading from our Apple Watch series 5 to the series 9 and I do like the idea of the features and battery life of the Ultra, but not sure if I would like the size.
Anybody who bought the Apple Watch Ultra last year, do you regret getting such a large watch?
Ultimately it comes down to putting one on my wrist which unfortunately isn't so easy because the nearest Apple Store to where we live is about 700 miles away in Vancouver. There are a couple of stores who sell the Apple Watch here mostly
 in connection with a carrier plan, but none of these stores stocks an Ultra. But Facebook to the rescue, I just posted on one of our local "Ask a question" type groups if anybody here had one and would be willing to let me put it on my wrist and I received
 an answer within 15 minutes.
Of course it helps also that we live in a town with a population of 5000 where if you live in town nothing is far away, then there is the fact that I have had my retail business on Main Street for 23 years and that I am the only blind guy
 with a guide dog in town and just everybody at least knows me by sight if not by name. Anyways, one of my customers will stop by tomorrow to show me his, but still I am curious what other Voiceover users have to say about especially if you may have had a regular
 Apple Watch before and upgraded to an Ultra last year.
 
 
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Re: ResMed10 App?

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Does your phone support screen recognition? If so, turn it on and navigate around the app and see what happens when you double tap on the agree button or checkbox. Screen recognition when using voiceover is found in the rotor.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 24, 2023, at 6:23 PM, Mohammad Fazil  wrote:







Hi, Group.
I got my first ever CPAP machine and it is ResMed10.
I have download its app, myAir from the AppStore but I am having difficulty with agreeing with their terms&conditions. I can not find the checkbox to check.
May I know how can I access the line/checkbox where I can give my consent with the app?
Thanks!






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Re: How do you take a photo with the iPhone?

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I kind of use a tripod so that way it holds the phone study and then I go to the Camera app and then I go to photo and then voiceover starts babbling on about zero faces. If it sees faces, then I would switch to the back camera in order to focus on the hard drive and then press the  take picture button Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 21, 2023, at 7:17 PM, Kevin Minor  wrote:







Hi.
 
I’m attempting to exchange a defective SSD. Sabrent wants pictures of it. I have no idea how to do that. I’d like to know what to do to make them happy.
 
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Re: A Proglem Unique to Blind People

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I am totally blind myself, but I turned off the attention awareness thing, so I didn’t quite understand what that meant and what that did and I read much earlier before this thread when I first got this iPhone 14 when I had questions a long time ago on this list I think Richard or somebody I don’t know who responded directly to me or right away within like five minutes of my sending my message about Face ID in the first place they told me to turn off the attention awareness feature which I did, and I haven’t had any issues since then the only times I’ve had issues is if I’m laying in bed a And I’m not looking directly at the phone or once in a while I’ll have to get it on the second attempt when I’m sitting up or standing when I’m opening my patelco mobile app which has some unlabeled buttons but I’m trying to work with them on that as far as accessibility goes lol but anyway all that being said, I get it usually in the second attempt, but when I set up the Face ID for the first time, I did not know what I was doing so I ended up getting one of those stands that hold the phone in place  Your kind of like a tripod kind of deal that was magnetic friendly and then I just looked straight into the phone that way with my glasses and without my glasses so I could capture my face that way. Only took roughly 3 to 5 minutes to figure that out when I first set it up going from an iPhone 8 plus to an iPhone 14 was definitely a little learning curve but I figured it out , and if I can figure it out, I’m sure you can figure it out. Have a great day. I hope this helps. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 1, 2023, at 3:16 PM, Agent086B  wrote:Hi,from what I have read we all do this slightly different. I just pick up the phone off a desk or out of my pocket and hold it about 18 inches or more from my face on a slide angle  so the camera points to my face not my belly.I do have attention aware turned on as it is better security. I should say I am a total.Max.On 1 Aug 2023, at 21:01, Sandra Finley  wrote:I hate to admit this, but if I can’t ask fellow blind folks, then what is the point of a list like this? I have never mastered the use of facial recognition. I was able to follow the directions given to set up face ID fine. The problem I continue to have  is how to hold my phone up to my face  so that my fade is recognized. Several months ato I just stopped trying and have been using my password  instead, but I am  now determined to figure this out.  How did some of you  learn how to do this? Sandy  Finley -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02a901d9c467%2477780450%2466680cf0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: "Handoff" between iOS and MS-Windows

[CHELA Robles]

Weird that’s happening to you Richard from USA because I have a dell Inspiron laptop and it’s not having that issue with mine. Then again I toggled off the Dell mobile app in the first place, and the phone link app works.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 30, 2023, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:The issue is that the Dell Mobile Connect blocks  the  phone link app from working.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Jul 30, 2023, at 1:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







I don’t have a Dell, but all I did was bring up the Phone Link application on my PC and followed the prompts, one of which was using code reader in the control panel on my iPhone to read the QR code on the screen. After that, I think I
 just had to allow access to a few things.
 

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You have to be sure you connected the iPhone over bluetooth to the comfuter.

 


You also should reboot after removing the Dell mobile connect drivers.


For me, it just worked after doing that.


 


Richard, USA.


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On Jul 30, 2023, at 11:02 AM, Albert Brown  wrote:




Hello Richard,
I am still struggling with the handsoff windows link.
I have the dell laptop, and removed the dell mobile app.
How did you manage to get it working .

ALBERT

JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2023.2306.38

MICROSOFT WINDOWS
Operating System
Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (built 22621.1848)

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Turner
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:17 PM
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Thanks William,

That is the app I downloaded.

I will try again and see if it works.









Richard, USA.

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James
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Richard, here you are sir!







Link to Windows 

Link your phone and PC 






Sent from my iPhone Pro Max





   On Jul 28, 2023, at 4:48?PM, Richard Turner  > wrote:

   ?

   Well, according to a page from Microsoft, the iOS app is supposed to now be 
called "Microsoft Phone Link.

   However, the only app I can find in the iOS app store is Link to Windows. 
When I tried setting it up, it told me some app was preventing me from making 
calls on my Android device.



   I have nothing Android in my house.



   Do you have a link to the correct app, and or some hints about getting it set 
up?

   My computer shows that I have connected to my phone over Bluetooth.









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   You need the "PhoneLink" app on a Windows 11 PC and the "Link to Windows" app 
on your iPhone.

   PhoneLink should already be on your computer if it's updated to the latest 
Windows 11 version and Link to Windows of course has to be downloaded from the 
App Store on your iPhone, it does not work with an iPad (or at least not yet).

   Here is one article, you find many if you Google it:



   Phone Link for iOS is now rolling out to all Windows 11 customers 




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Bill Gallik
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Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows

[CHELA Robles]

Wow! It really does work I just tested it out! It didn’t take long to set it up either.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 28, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Thanks William,That is the app I downloaded.I will try again and see if it works…Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:04 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows Richard, here you are sir! Link to WindowsLink your phone and PC  Sent from my iPhone Pro MaxOn Jul 28, 2023, at 4:48 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, according to a page from Microsoft, the iOS app is supposed to now be called "Microsoft Phone Link.However, the only app I can find in the iOS app store is Link to Windows.  When I tried setting it up, it told me some app was preventing me from making calls on my Android device… I have nothing Android in my house. Do you have a link to the correct app, and or some hints about getting it set up?My computer shows that I have connected to my phone over Bluetooth…Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 8:52 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows You need the "PhoneLink" app on a Windows 11 PC and the "Link to Windows" app on your iPhone.PhoneLink should already be on your computer if it's updated to the latest Windows 11 version and Link to Windows of course has to be downloaded from the App Store on your iPhone, it does not work with an iPad (or at least not yet).Here is one article, you find many if you Google it: Phone Link for iOS is now rolling out to all Windows 11 customers From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill GallikSent: Friday, July 28, 2023 2:39 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: “Handoff” between iOS and MS-Windows OK, I suppose I could look for this on the web, but seems there’s a couple of folks out here who know all about this PhoneLink.  So is this software that Goetz andSo is this software that gets installed on the iPhone or the Windows computer? Or, is there a version on both systems to allow for a handshake? I may as well ask, where can I read up on this?  - Sent from Bill's iPhone 8 (iOS 16.6) via Google Mail-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B97B7C4D-1110-4EB8-8981-234290E57952%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656212BD8AAAF6DEB761647C706A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@cara

Re: Just a Quick Hello To Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark

[CHELA Robles]

Hello doing very well loving my iPhone even though face ID is a hit or miss but I will get the hang of it eventually. I have the iPhone 14. It’s a blue color and it has 256 GB storage configuration with AT&T. I have the eSIM instead of a physical Sim.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 31, 2023, at 9:01 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO ADD A FEATURE TO 
PHONE SETTINGS. An option to choose where the audio from voicemail 
goes.  OPTION WHERE 

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 9:23 
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  Everyone on the List from Moderator Mark
  Hello, I replied to this on MacVisionaries, but what I’m 
  talking about is for iOs. :)
  
  Two little things I’ve thought would be useful:A VoiceOver 
  gesture, (say a 2-finger swipe right) in the messages window to send the 
  composed message. Instead of locating the send button.A VoiceOver 
  gesture to spell the current word in focus. Often I’m on the web and want 
  something spelled out. It takes many little steps to turn the rotor to word, 
  flick to the one I want, then turn the rotor to character, flick letter by 
  letter. A simple shortcut would be super useful.Those are two little 
  things off the top of my head. :)Take care,Traci
  
  
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

I agree with Ed. Also, David coupons messages when reading with voiceover sounds like it’s in another language even though it’s technically an English it’s reading in a different text to speech voice and it sounds really weird. Even though, I have my language automatically set to English and I have an English voice. Perhaps he used a non-English keyboard to write in English I don’t know, but anyway, hopefully they’ll fix it. At least the Apple will hopefully fix the braille issue they usually do. If people nicely report this to Apple accessibility.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:Hello,While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your rant.Thanks for listening,EdOn May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM,   wrote:And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the dictation inconveniences!Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5 You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.com   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi, I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing? I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6. Best,Anna On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote: Yep, that’s it.Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blogOn May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote: Hello.I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing someproblems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issuesand I'm not aware?ScottOn 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:FolksFor brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Appleaccessibility NOW, do it NOW!The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not workas they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!Davy--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or ifyou feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners ormoderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005c01d98cbc%24ef261150%24cd7233f0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark c

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

Well, I already have 16.5.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next page.JennJenn and KumiOn May 22, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.comHttps://devinprater.micro.blog

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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

The app Sero has audio described content as well and you can pay $5.99 a month 
to access them. But I do like the Spectrum Access app. I just have to remember 
to use wired headphones instead of Bluetooth headphones because when I use 
Bluetooth headphones, I’ve noticed it doesn’t really sync up very well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I haven't tried it yet myself, but a friend recommended a website with all 
> available a.d. films called something like audiovault.com
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for 
> iOS, Please Help
> 
> Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
> you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
> headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results 
> with the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to 
> syncing when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any 
> dictation errors. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
>>> acquired it. Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if 
>>> activated in range of a actively playing movie, on an external media 
>>> device such as a television, would play the audio description for 
>>> that movie on the iOS device.
>>> 
>>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a 
>>> few years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Sounds similar to blind mice mega Mall movie vault.

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:
> 
> I haven't tried it yet myself, but a friend recommended a website with all 
> available a.d. films called something like audiovault.com
> Alison
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, April 5, 2023 3:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for 
> iOS, Please Help
> 
> Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
> you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
> headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results 
> with the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to 
> syncing when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any 
> dictation errors. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
>>> acquired it. Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Kathy Blackburn
>>> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if 
>>> activated in range of a actively playing movie, on an external media 
>>> device such as a television, would play the audio description for 
>>> that movie on the iOS device.
>>> 
>>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a 
>>> few years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Also, I have noticed with regards to spectrum access in order to sync up. If 
you’re using headphones, they require you to utilize for accuracy, corded 
headphones, like see ear pods not the wireless ones I’ve had mixed results with 
the wireless ones, and it seems to work better for me with regards to syncing 
when I plug in my EarPods, just a note of caution. Sorry for any dictation 
errors. 

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 7:03 AM, Kathy Blackburn  wrote:
> 
> It might possibly be Spectrum Access. It was ActiView until Spectrum 
> acquired it. Hope this helps.
> 
> Kathy Blackburn
> kblac...@austin.rr.comOn Apr 5, 2023 7:17 AM, "M. Taylor"  
> wrote:
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>> Hello Everyone, 
>> 
>> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if activated in 
>> range of a actively playing movie, on an external media device such as a 
>> television, would play the audio description for that movie on the iOS 
>> device.  
>> 
>> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a few 
>> years back and am now wondering if the app still exists. 
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated. 
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
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Re: I Am Trying to Remember the Name of an Audio Description app for iOS, Please Help

[CHELA Robles]

Spectrum access

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> On Apr 5, 2023, at 5:17 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I've been trying to remember the name of an iOS app that, if activated in
> range of a actively playing movie, on an external media device such as a
> television, would play the audio description for that movie on the iOS
> device.  
> 
> Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I know that such an app existed a few
> years back and am now wondering if the app still exists.
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

he GPS program, the error 
>>> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of 
>>> the time on 20 April 2021.
>>> 
>>> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately 
>>> makes the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 
>>> years ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a 
>>> stop to the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used 
>>> throughout the 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use 
>>> less accurate. On the GPS website it says " The United States has no 
>>> intent to ever use Selective Availability again.".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi 
>>> band"
>>> and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches 
>>> already have this.
>>> 
>>> Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS?
>>> 
>>> Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands 
>>> and allow for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when 
>>> using the device in challenging environments.
>>> 
>>> This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each 
>>> satellite on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by 
>>> environmental interference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models?
>>> 
>>> • More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the 
>>> device in challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in 
>>> urban canyons as well as tree cover)
>>> 
>>> • Can achieve accuracy within about +/- 2 meters or 6 feet under 
>>> ideal conditions versus the +/- 3 meters or 10 feet accuracy of other 
>>> models
>>> 
>>> • Detect (and reject) reflected satellite signals better than a 
>>> single frequency receiver which improves accuracy
>>> 
>>> • Better equipped to account for and correct errors that can be 
>>> introduced by atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors)
>>> 
>>> NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, 
>>> QZSS, BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not 
>>> available in all areas of the globe.
>>> 
>>> For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, 
>>> but it seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more 
>>> from the regular models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 
>>> Ultra although I also read that this may possibly what Apple will 
>>> call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and they will give it even more features 
>>> or make it tougher than the regular iPhone
>>> 15 Pro.
>>> 
>>> I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any 
>>> iPhone in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy 
>>> especially not in the places where most people live like cities with 
>>> tall buildings and many sources of potential interference. For now 
>>> the next big reveal will be iOS
>>> 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start.
>>> Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, 
>>> September 12 or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although 
>>> most rumours will have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Kelly Pierce
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a 
>>> spectacular upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 
>>> 10 to 20 times the transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. 
>>> It will be the first smart phone with a three nanometer processor, 
>>> delivering blazing fast speeds. It may also have dual channel 
>>> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch 
>>> compared to the 20 feet single channe

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple Watch fifth 
generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I saved up enough money, 
thinking about getting the ultra because of a bigger screen, and the fact that 
it has two speakers and tactile buttons. If I type it right if I get it or 
rather if I purchase it on April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is 
April 6. This is definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end 
up with, I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and 
greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you. I 
hope it works out for you. Good luck.

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> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
> least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
> totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
> feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. 
> I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
> like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
>> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
>> instead.
>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro 
>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip 
>> in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same 
>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR 
>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time 
>> goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to 
>> have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro 
>> phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 
>> 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and 
>> the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR 
>> sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind 
>> person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. 
>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in 
>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
>> in this family. 
>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
>> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. I 
never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.

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> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
> instead.
> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max 
> did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip in a 
> new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same processor as 
> the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR sensor 
> which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time goes 
> by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to have a 
> phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro phone, the 
> first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro 
> phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same 
> applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and 
> the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person you 
> are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. Also you 
> probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in Canada 
> they are becoming a bit harder to find.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
> 
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
> in this family. 
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
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Re: Oops. Audioeye?

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Well, I don’t work for them anymore. They hated the fact that I wasn’t too 
technical enough for them. I did base my feedback on my thoughts on how 
websites should be accessible but anyway that’s a different kind of worms to 
open or rather balls to

SentWell, I don’t work for them anymore. They hated the fact that I wasn’t too 
technical enough for them. I did base my feedback on my thoughts on how 
websites should be accessible but anyway that’s a different can of worms to 
open or rather balls to dodge.
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> On Mar 26, 2023, at 12:40 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you provide a link to a website which is using AudioEye?
> My website uses another such services called "Accessiby" and typically there 
> is not really anything you need to learn, you just press a keyboard shortcut 
> which should be announced or there could be a button or buttons like "Enable 
> Accessibility for Visually Impaired" and which makes the website more 
> accessible.
> Here is an example:
> 
> https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/
> 
> If you look near the top of the site, you find the following:
> 
> Enable accessibility for visually impaired   Button   
> Open the accessibility menu   Button   
> Open the Accessible Navigation Menu   Button   
> Accessibility Menu   Button   
> Close the accessibility menu   Button   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2023 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Oops. Audioeye?
> 
> Thanks Chela,
> 
> Can you tell me how to use Audioeye?I’d like to ignore it but it seems to get 
> in my way.  
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 5:58 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> It means that the website has the AudioEye accessible overlay. The owners 
>> of the website is under contract with that particular company to make the 
>> website follow accessible guidelines. How I know this is because I used to 
>> work for AudioEye testing for screenreader useability. I don’t anymore, 
>> though I am solely focused on trying to get certified as a literary braille, 
>> transcriber and proofreader through the national library service for the 
>> print disabled and the national Federation of the Blind. Workin Working for 
>> that company testing websites was only for a season for me eight months. At 
>> least I made enough to get myself a new Apple Watch for my birthday this 
>> year.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 25, 2023, at 3:42 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oops.  I just arrowed through the spelling and it’s not A I but rather 
>>> Audioeye.  At any rate, what is this and what do I do with it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kim
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