Re: A Question about the Volume of Audio Described Playback

[Christina]

I know you are asking about the Apple TV but I just wanted to add that several 
years ago I remember a setting like that on the Fire TV. I can’t remember if it 
was on the Fire TV Stick or on Fire TV OS.  I just remember setting it and I’ve 
not messed with it since.

Christina

> On Nov 3, 2023, at 9:22 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> With audio description enabled on my Apple TV, I sometimes find that the
> volume level of the narration is disproportionately loud to that of the
> volume of the content being described.
> 
> Question, is there anyway to adjust the volume level of audio narration?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: punctuation in voice over question

[Christina]

Go to the rotor and keep turning until you hear it say Activities. Then with 
one finger swipe down until you hear No activity selected. You may have 
accidentally selected the programming activity which makes VO read all of the 
punctuation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
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> I just tried a book in the Kindle app and had no punctuation.
> 
> I use the Tom Enhanced voice.
> 
> 
> Richard
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> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Subject: punctuation in voice over question
> 
> does anyone know why even though I set voice over to read no punctuation, it 
> does it anyway?  for example when reading a kindle book, I Have to hear all 
> punctuation.  Using an iphone 12 and latest ios update. 
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Re: Withings scale

[Christina]

The Wyze scale is great. That's spelled W. Y. Z. E. 
It did not require sighted assistance to set up on my iPhone, it runs about $35 
on Amazon, and does not require me to stand perfectly on sensors.

> On May 4, 2021, at 2:09 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
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> Our scale cost $30 from Amazon.  the app works well.  It is called 'fit 
> index'.  I suppose the scale's name is the same.
> At 01:16 PM 5/4/2021, you wrote:
>> I bought a Withings Body Plus scale and it does require sighted assistance 
>> to set up. the app seems not to register any weight that's different from 
>> what you program. The scale makes no beeps or anything to let you know that 
>> it's working, and it seems you have to stand on a certain section for the 
>> weight to show up. It's the health mate app, and the results show up in the 
>> Apple health app as well. It's not the best solution, but the best one I've 
>> found right now.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On May 4, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten > > wrote:
>> 
>> I just saw an article about this scale, which sells for a not 
>> insignificant sum of $150 either directly from the vendor or from Amazon. 
>> Apparently, it gives you all sorts of measurements, and of course it 
>> connects with the iPhone. My question is: does anyone have this? If so, how 
>> well does it work with voiceover? Paying that much to get a bunch of 
>> measurements that I can’t read is not in my plan. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Using vita mix with iPhone

[Christina]

Are you talking about the Perfect Scale that you can use to weigh ingredients 
for Vitamix recipes. A few years ago, I bought and tried the Perfect Drink 
scale and app and it wasn't accessible as far as actually pouring the 
ingredients. I could move around the app and read the recipes, but i couldn't 
use it when it came to actually starting a recipe. I contacted the company but 
I didn't make progress. I haven't tried the app in a few years. So, maybe 
things have changed.

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Wren Langley  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Has anyone used a vita mix blender with their perfect company app that they 
> developed for the iPhone? If you have, how does it work, and what results 
> have you had.
> 
> Thank you very much
> God bless,
> Wren Langley
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Re: still seeking media player app to use with Dropbox

[Christina]

Cloud Beats sounds like a possible solution if it is integrated with DropBox. I 
sync my Voice Dream Library with iCloud, so I don't think it's actually taking 
up a ton of space on my iPhone, but I'm not sure.

Christina

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
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> Thank you. The problem with doing that is that right now what I need to read 
> takes up too much space on my mini IPad, so I need to read it from the cloud 
> in Dropbox. Any other suggestions?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> ----- Original Message - 
>> From: Christina <mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: still seeking media player app to use with Dropbox
>> 
>> Export the audio file  to Voice Dream Reader. If it's a book with multiple 
>> MP3 files for one book, then you might want to zip the folder that has those 
>> MP3 files in it before sending it to Voice Dream Reader so that it comes out 
>> as one book instead of multiple books, but you don't have to.
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Vicki W. >> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> that I can use to play media when in Dropbox. Right now, I'm using the 
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>>> down.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
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Re: still seeking media player app to use with Dropbox

[Christina]

Export the audio file  to Voice Dream Reader. If it's a book with multiple MP3 
files for one book, then you might want to zip the folder that has those MP3 
files in it before sending it to Voice Dream Reader so that it comes out as one 
book instead of multiple books, but you don't have to.

> On Nov 7, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Vicki W.  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I'm still looking for a media player app for both my mini IPad and IPhone 
> that I can use to play media when in Dropbox. Right now, I'm using the 
> default player but I want to have something which I can speed up or slow down.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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Re: Transferring playlists/music among different services like Spotify, Pandora, Amazon Music etc.

[Christina]

I like Houdini, but it’s the only one I’ve ever tried. It does YouTube 
playlists, Apple Music, and Spotify. It’s accessible except for one part. When 
you select playlists there isn’t any VoiceOver feedback as to if a playlist is 
selected, so you just have to go by faith that when you double tapped on it, 
that it is selected. It’s a very simple app and others may have more features.

Christina

> On Apr 10, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
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> Hello list,
> Was wondering if anyone knows of an accessible program/service that can do 
> this? ON iOS, I’ve tried Song Shift, but it always has trouble finding a lot 
> of my titles and it doesn’t appear to include Amazon Music as one of the 
> connected services. There’s Free My Music, but it looks to be paid beyond the 
> first 100 track transfers and well, if there’s a free service, even better. I 
> tried out the program on PC and while there appear to be some unlabeled 
> buttons, it’s not terrible with Jaws per say. 
> I don’t mind paying necessarily, but if there’s some sort of open source app 
> that can do this, I’d also like to know.
> My Pandora Premium promo is ending this weekend and I recently scored a fre 
> 90 day Amazon Music trial with HD sound Thus my desire to find a way to move 
> my songs/playlists etc over without having to recreate them.
> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Cristóbal
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[Christina]

I also want to add in case it’s of importance. My iPhone is an Eleven.
Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Christina  wrote:
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> I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
> using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
> 13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
> pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[Christina]

I’m getting the same thing. It started around 11 PM last night while I was 
using my iPhone, and I haven’t even updated. I double checked, and I’m on 
13.3.1 and I’m using Samantha compact. I rebooted my iPhone and the weird 
pronunciation of the word  “yesterday” persists.

Christina

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi List,
>  
> I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now but 
> I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
> certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my 
> iPhone 8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now 
> pronounced as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. 
> I'm getting this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom 
> enhanced and am curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a 
> list of recent app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the 
> upgrade day and I got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.
>  
> Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: App to track books you read

[Christina]

The Nice thing about GoodReads is that you don’t have to use all of it’s 
features. Just use the database of books to add them to your virtual Read 
shelf. You don’t have to do anything more than that. Then when you look up a 
book and if it shows that the book is marked as read, than you know you’ve read 
it.   Or you could just read through your read shelf when you want to read 
through your list of books you’ve read. Think of the read shelf as a list of 
books you’ve read. Once you wrap your brain around it, it’s fairly simple. On 
the app, just stick to the My Books Tab and the Search tab and that will keep 
things to a minimum. When you start an account with Goodreads you automatically 
get three default bookshelves. You can choose to add a book to the read shelf 
if you’ve read a book, or you can add a book to the to read/want to read Shelf 
to keep track of books you’ve heard about that you want to read some day. Then 
there is the currently reading shelf. You can put books on that shelf if you 
want to see on Goodreads when you started a book, then when you finish the 
book, it will show the date you finished a book after you mark it as read or 
rate it. I originally started with Goodreads just to use the Want to Read shelf 
to keep track of books I want to read some day, but didn’t want to forget about 
them, and for a while, that’s all I used Goodreads for.  I hope this helps 
simplify things a little bit for you.

BTW, you can’t really Mark a book as unread. Once you  add a book to one of 
your Goodreads shelves, you can only move it to another of the 2 left default 
bookshelves, which are Read, Currently reading, and Want to Read. You can 
delete a book from your Goodreads, but by default you can’t move it to an 
unread shelf or mark it as unread.

> On Feb 19, 2020, at 8:22 AM, Alexandra  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the recommendation, but this is a bit over the top for my use 
> case. It looks like this is kind of a reading community where you have to 
> create an account in advance. I don't need any ecommendations, just the 
> tracking feature. One thing I don't like about this app is the fact that when 
> you enter a book and mark it as read, you can re-enter the same book and mark 
> it as unread. This doesn't help when you need to track a large number of 
> books.
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag 
> von Candy Lowe
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2020 15:46
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> 
> If I understand what you are trying to do, I think the goodreads app would 
> work for you.  I use it and it is very accessible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 8 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2020, at 8:01 AM, Alexandra  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm looking for an app for iOS that allows me to track books I heither 
>> have read or want to read in the future. I tried the free sofa 
>> downtime app and was able to add a book I completed. Unfortunately, I 
>> couldn't find it afterwards in the app. It was only visible when I 
>> exported my books as a CSV file. So do you know how to make these read 
>> books visible inside the app as well? Otherwise, I'd be happy about any 
>> alternative recommendation.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Alexandra
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Re: Netflix and AirPlay

[Christina]

While the video is playing, bring down the notification center and go to show 
playback destination. I have no idea about lip syncing or latency, but the 
sound does come out of my Sonos.
HTH,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
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> Hi,
> I’m  using an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3. I also have a pair of Sonos-1 speakers 
> that I use when playing podcasts or Apple Music. The other night I wanted to 
> check out something on Netflix and I couldn’t find any way to direct the 
> sound to the Sonos speakers through AirPlay. Does Netflix support AirPlay, 
> and if so, how can I turn it on? 
> Thanks in advance.
> Tom
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Re: copying ringtones to an iOS device from the Mac in Catalina

[Christina]

I hope this helps, but the only way I get it to work, is if quick NAV is on. 
It’s so weird.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi JOhn,
> 
> That's a good thought. I tried it, and as when I moved up and down the list 
> without the VO keys, I was told everything I chose was added to the 
> selection. The drag and drop didn't put any of the selected tones on my 
> device, however. Being able to do it reliably with one tone is great, though.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Nov 25, 2019, at 9:05 AM, John Panarese  wrote:
>> 
>> The one thing that might be missing here for multiple selections is, yes, 
>> VO-Command-enter is used for multiple selection, but you have to navigate to 
>> each file using the VO-arrow keys and then pressing VO-Command-Enter to 
>> select that item.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 24, 2019, at 11:53 PM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I've been working with someone in Apple Accessibility tech support on 
>>> copying ringtones from a Mac to an iOS device running Catalina, and they 
>>> sent me steps that work. I can't get the part of the directions involving 
>>> selecting multiple tones at once to work, but copying one tone at a time 
>>> works reliably using this method. I'm so glad there's a way to do this 
>>> without Garage Band! Here are the steps:
>>> 
>>> 1) Open two Finder windows: one containing the General tab of an iOS device 
>>> and one with a folder containing a ringtone file (MPEG-4 audio file with 
>>> .m4r file extension).
>>> 2) Move the VoiceOver cursor to the ringtone file. To install more than one 
>>> ringtone, use VO-Command-Return to select each of the ringtones before 
>>> proceeding to the next step.
>>> 3) Press VO-Command-fn-5 to move the mouse pointer to the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor's location.
>>> 4) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to click and hold the mouse button (to 
>>> start dragging).
>>> 5) Use Window Chooser (VO-fn-2-2) to switch to the Finder window that the 
>>> iOS device is in.
>>> 6) Move the VoiceOver cursor to "General, scroll area".
>>> 7) Press VO-Command-Shift-Space to release the mouse button (to drop the 
>>> files in this location).
>>> 
>>> Enjoy,
>>> Anna
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Re: Deleting playlist

[Christina]

I’m so sorry, but I don’t completely understand your question. Are you 
subscribed to Apple Music’s Streaming service?  If so, are you asking how not 
to have Christmas songs added to your library, but you still want a Christmas 
playlist? On iOS under settings, music, then set Add Playlist songs to off. 
Then you can make playlists and when you add songs to the playlists it won’t 
automatically add songs to your apple music library. If you delete the 
playlist, then the playlist disappears forever. I just keep my Christmas 
playlist. It doesn’t bother me at all and the Christmas songs that I add to the 
playlist do not interfere with my regular nonholiday music.

HTH,

> On Nov 25, 2019, at 10:41 AM, Irlanda Hernandez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I have a question to ask. I have a Christmas playlist and I would like to 
> delete it from the playlist  but  when Christmas is over how can I delete it 
> but for it to be backed up to the iCloud so that way the next following year 
> I can just put it back onto the playlist? thanks, and God bless. 
> 
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Re: Temporary fix to get Voiceover to broadcast through connected Bose Soundlink Mini 2 bluetooth speaker

[Christina]

Hi, Did you try unpairing your Bose Speaker, going to settings, accessibility, 
voice over, audio, then changing send to HDMI to on. Then re-pairing the bose?  
I don’t know if that will do a thing but I had heard that VO not going to the 
Bose speakers was a feature and if you wanted that to work you had to turn that 
setting to off. IDK. I figured it might be worth a shot. Good luck.

> On Nov 28, 2019, at 2:51 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi List,
>  
> I discovered by accident the other night that when I connected my iPhone 8 to 
> my Bose Soundlink Mini 2 speaker and did a hard reset by pressing volume up 
> button, volume down button, and holding the power button down many seconds 
> that Voiceover was coming out of the speaker when the phone restarted. 
> However, this behavior did not seem to stick because after locking the phone 
> and reconnecting to the speaker, Voiceover was still coming out of the phone 
> speakers. I just thought I'd share this because when I connected to the Bose 
> speaker again a few minutes ago and did a hard reset, Voiceover was coming 
> out of the Bose speaker again after reboot.
>  
> Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Siri Voices On Two Phones

[Christina]

Family sharing works great for purchases. However, to my knowledge, each person 
Hass to do their own in app purchases.  I wish in app purchases could be shared 
across family members. Family sharing used to be so much more awesome. Now so 
very many apps are free then you upgrade them with an app purchases or 
subscriptions.  But yes, using family sharing, makes so much more sense 
logistically. It is very very difficult and messy to share iCloud accounts.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 25, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> But if you set up a family group and add her Apple Id she can have access to 
> all the apps unless some don’t allow family sharing and I have rarely seen 
> any which don’t and if she buys something it is still charged to your credit 
> card.
> This is exactly what family sharing is for, people can have their own Apple 
> Id, but you can share apps and a payment card yet each person has their own 
> Apple Id which they can use for Facetime, iMessage or to backup their own 
> stuff and photos.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
> Gouveia
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri Voices On Two Phones
>  
> Mostly for payment reasons and the fact I’ve got some apps I’ve purchased 
> that are on my accounts she uses also.
> Victor
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Siri Voices On Two Phones
>  
> She should try to set up her own Apple Id, I assume somehow whatever one 
> selects on one device is synced to the other device via the Apple Id.
> Is there a particular reason why you want to use the same Apple Id on both 
> devices? In my opinion this is asking for problems if two different people 
> use the phones.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Victor 
> Gouveia
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 9:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Siri Voices On Two Phones
>  
> Hi Folks,
>  
> I have quite the quandary.  I have two phones, a 6S and an XS, both with my 
> Apple I.D. on them, however, one is being used by my daughter and has a 
> completely different number from the 6S, which I am using, also with a 
> different number.
>  
> She currently has an Australian male voice on her Siri, and it’s bled over to 
> mine.
>  
> When I changed it on my phone, it changed on hers.  She changed it back to 
> Australian male, which also made the change on my phone.
>  
> Is there a way she can keep her Australian male and I keep my female voice?
>  
> Victor
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Re: Accessible app for your iPhone that will let you lock your screen and still be streaming content?

[Christina]

What about guided access? Is that still a feature under accessibility? It used 
to be a way to Prevent the switching of apps. I tried it many years ago when my 
kids were little but it was kind of a pain back then. Maybe it’s been improved.

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2019, at 6:12 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  OK, so I didn't think through the question. My solution works if you only 
> want the audio.
> Assuming you want the screen to continue functioning, you are probably 
> looking at the parental controls under Screen Time.
> I really know nothing about how to set that up so someone can only use one 
> app, though it is probably possible.
> I'd suggest calling Apple Accessibility since no one else has chimed in on 
> this question.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
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> Wagner
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 6:53 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Assuming you have VoiceOver on, when you lock the screen and the audio 
>> stops, press your home button or side switch and do a two finger double tap.
>> The Netflix will continue playing and the phone will remain locked.
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
>> Wagner
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, "dacia.l...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an app for my iPhone that will let me lock my screen, but 
>>> still be able to drain content by streaming such as Netflix with the PBS 
>>> Kids app. When I let my little girl have my phone, I want to be able to 
>>> lock my phone so she can’t activate things on the screen, but when I do it 
>>> currently, it stops whatever is streaming. Thanks.
>>> Dacia
>>> 
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

[Christina]

Yes, I’ve heard that this so called “feature” or bug is only for a few select 
speakers. I honestly wish I could find more definitive information about this 
instead of hearsay  because I’d like to purchase  and use a bluetooth speaker 
that’s portable and doesn’t require a WIFI connection in order to keep VO with 
my phone and only my music, book, or TV show going to the speaker. My current 
setup isn’t exactly portable and WIFI is required if I want VO to stay with my 
device. The problem though is that it could be a bug instead of a feature and 
there is no way to know for sure just yet. It seems that some people like this 
and some people don’t. So, it’s hard to say. ☺️ 

Christina
Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have that send to HDMI turned off which I believe is the default, but the 
> two Bluetooth speakers I have both receive all audio, Voiceover and system 
> sounds.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christina
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 3:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of 
> my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2
>  
> Hi Alan,
>  
> I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
> your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear 
> speaker where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually 
> heard about this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was 
> actually a new feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay 
> with my phone and for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I 
> use airPlay. That is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my 
> music. That is just a personal preference. I can understand that others 
> prefer VO to go  through the connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard 
> about. I heard there is a setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, 
> send to HDMI. I heard if you want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that 
> is set to off. However in your case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t 
> know. Also, you should unpair the speaker, change the setting, then re-pair 
> the speaker to your phone. I don’t know if this will help at all , but maybe 
> it’s worth a try. Also, I have a friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and 
> she was quite pleased to have VO stay with her phone because she didn’t have 
> to interrupt the music to do things on her phone. Everyone in the room could 
> enjoy the music and she retained the ability to do what she needed to on her 
> iPhone.
>  
> HTH and best of luck,
> Christina
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
> phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
> speaker and received the following reply:
>  
> Hello Alan
>  
> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
> investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.
>  
> Have a great day,
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Re: Apple Accessibility reply to Voiceover no longer coming out of my Bose Mini Soundlink 2 bluetooth speaker since upgrading to iOS 13.2

[Christina]

Hi Alan,

I have a few thoughts and ideas. I do have a question though. When VO goes to 
your phone instead of through the speaker, is it only going to the ear speaker 
where you can barely hear VO? Or is the sound just fine? I actually heard about 
this some time ago and I was under  the impression that it was actually a new 
feature for a few speakers. I personally prefer VO to stay with my phone and 
for only the music to come out of the speakers, like when I use airPlay. That 
is my personal preference. I don’t like VO interupting my music. That is just a 
personal preference. I can understand that others prefer VO to go  through the 
connected speaker. ☺️ So here’s an idea I heard about. I heard there is a 
setting under accessibility, voice over, audio, send to HDMI. I heard if you 
want VO to stay with the phone to make sure that is set to off. However in your 
case, maybe try setting it to on. I don’t know. Also, you should unpair the 
speaker, change the setting, then re-pair the speaker to your phone. I don’t 
know if this will help at all , but maybe it’s worth a try. Also, I have a 
friend who recently used a Bose Revolve and she was quite pleased to have VO 
stay with her phone because she didn’t have to interrupt the music to do things 
on her phone. Everyone in the room could enjoy the music and she retained the 
ability to do what she needed to on her iPhone.

HTH and best of luck,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> I wrote to Apple Accessibility about the issue of Voiceover coming out of the 
> phone speakers instead of from a connected Bose Mini Soundlink Bluetooth 
> speaker and received the following reply:
>  
> Hello Alan
>  
> Thank you for your email.  I apologize for the issues you are experiencing. 
> We appreciate the feedback and wanted to let you know that Apple is currently 
> investigating this issue. We cannot comment on when it may be resolved.
>  
> Have a great day,
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Rename file/folder name in Files app

[Christina]

Hello,

How do I rename a folder or file name in Apple’s File app with Voice Over? I 
googled it and found directions for non VO users. It says to tap on the name of 
the file and then then start typing the new name. That won’t work with VO on. I 
can’t figure out how to do it. I used the actions menu by swiping up  while VO 
focus is on the file, but I didn’t find any options to rename. 

Thanks ahead of time for anyone who helps me out. ☺️ 

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Re: Twitterrific's Contex menu New Tweet item

[Christina]

Oh, I see now, you’re talking about from the home screen, not within the app. 
I’ll experiment and see if I am having the same problem. What about if you 
swipe up until you hear context menu? Does that work more reliably?

Christina

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> On Oct 22, 2019, at 4:56 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I think I understand what you are talking about. If you double tap and hold 
> on the Twitterrific icon on the home screen you are presented with the 
> context menu.
> 
> I too am seeing the same issues. This might be an iOS issue and not with 
> Twitterrific. I find if you double tap and hold on the icon instead of simply 
> double tapping and holding anywhere on the screen after the name is announced 
> it works more reliably.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> What I’m trying to say is that on iOS13, double-tap and hold brings up 
>> what’s called a context menu, right? Within that Context menu, yu now have 
>> an option “New Tweet” which isn’t reliable as I’d like, thus I changed back 
>> for the time being,while Twitterrific, fixes this issue, to Tweetings, in 
>> which the “New Tweet” rom the Context menu, is very reliable!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>>> El 20 oct 2019, a la(s) 10:43 p. m., Christina  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> I don’t understand specifically what you are referring to. Are you talking 
>>> about the 2 finger tap that brings up the compose tweet thing or something 
>>> else? I am having a lot of problems when on a tweet and I flick down until 
>>> I hear more options. When I double tap, it does all kinds of weird stuff 
>>> and I have to explore by touch or sometimes even close a window to get to 
>>> those options like muffle, mute, etc.
>>> 
>>> Christina
>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is it only me, or do you'll who use Twitterrific find that its New Tweet 
>>>>> Contex menu item isn't that reliable to work with? I'd say maybe out of 5 
>>>>> times, maybe 2 or 3 at the most, brings you to the edit field where you 
>>>>> can start tweeting. I'm using Twitterrific's latest, as well as iOS's 
>>>>> latest if this helps any.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?

[Christina]

I haven’t had any problems at all with hardware keyboards since iOS 13 except 
in WhatsApp, and those problems still persist. They told me it would be fixed 
in the next update. The WhatsApp update came out, but the shift key and control 
key still aren’t working. I can type, but I can’t use certain punctuation, or 
capitalize.

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 6:27 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The issue concerning third party keyboards isn't about external hardware 
> keyboards. It's about software keyboards like FlickType.
> An alternate onscreen keyboard.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 4:18 AM, Don Moore > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The Logitech 810.  I bought it in 2014, and it’s served me fine.
>>  
>>  
>>   <>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
>>  
>> Don,
>>  
>> Out of curiosity, what third party keyboard are you using with iOS 13.x 
>> without issues and what are its Voiceover features?
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Don Moore
>> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
>>  
>> Actually, very well.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]  
>> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
>>  
>> I don't believe the below information is correct. What is being reported on 
>> the FlickType list by those who have upgraded is that the FlickType keyboard 
>> problems still exist with iOS 13.1.3 but that in iOS 13.2 beta, the 
>> FlickType keyboard is working properly as in iOS 12.x.  I personally am 
>> waiting to upgrade from iOS 12.4.1 until iOS 13.2 is officially released 
>> since I depend heavily on the FlickType keyboard for my iPhone input.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: 'christopher hallsworth' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
>>  
>> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Are Third Party Keyboards Working in iOS 12.1.3?
>>  
>> Fixed as of the 13.1x series.
>>  
>> 
>> On 17 Oct 2019, at 11:19, David Goldfield > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I am still using iOS 12 as I heard that third party keyboards were 
>> problematic under iOS 13? I'm wondering if the situation is the same with 
>> 13.1.3. Specifically, I'm a user of Flicktype and would like to know if it 
>> is working as expected with 13.1.3? If it is not what are the current issues 
>> with it?
>> 
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Re: Twitterrific's Contex menu New Tweet item

[Christina]

I don’t understand specifically what you are referring to. Are you talking 
about the 2 finger tap that brings up the compose tweet thing or something 
else? I am having a lot of problems when on a tweet and I flick down until I 
hear more options. When I double tap, it does all kinds of weird stuff and I 
have to explore by touch or sometimes even close a window to get to those 
options like muffle, mute, etc.

Christina

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:09 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Is it only me, or do you'll who use Twitterrific find that its New Tweet 
> Contex menu item isn't that reliable to work with? I'd say maybe out of 5 
> times, maybe 2 or 3 at the most, brings you to the edit field where you can 
> start tweeting. I'm using Twitterrific's latest, as well as iOS's latest if 
> this helps any.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: A Question for All of You Audio Book Lovers

[Christina]

Hi Mark,

I know Two different people who have used the Churp app and they both said it 
was accessible. This was a few months ago, and I haven’t personally tried the 
Churp app as I haven’t found a book I want to purchase yet.

HTH,
Christina


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 1:38 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> There is an audio book discount service called Chirp Books.com.  
> 
> I receive a daily email containing recommended audio books that I have found
> to be excellent.  Now, generally speaking, I learn about books from this
> service, then either download them from Apple Books, Audible, BARD or Over
> Drive.  
> 
> There website is fully screen reader accessible and they do have an app for
> iOS in which one can purchase the titles, at the discounted price.  
> 
> Question, has anyone ever actually used the Chirp Books app, with VoiceOver
> to download and listen to purchased titles?  
> 
> Mark
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Re: how to bring up the onscreen keyboard from external keyboard

[Christina]

On my keyboard it’s control plus spacebar. Some keyboards also have a 
designated key for that. I can’t remember for sure, but I think it’s the 
fn/function key on the apple keyboard.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:08 PM, dlng321.mob...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> Can someone tell me how to bring up the onscreen keyboard when using the 
> external hardware keyboard? Thanks!
>  
> Regards,
> Danny Leung
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Re: issues with hardware keyboards

[Christina]

With iOS 13 Quick Nav on and off are now replaced with a sounds.

> On Oct 9, 2019, at 1:26 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> After upgrading to IOS13, I noticed a number of issues with hardware 
> keyboards. Before we go any further, I was able to replicate the issues with 
> 2 hardware keyboards. The Amazon basics keyboard and the Logitech K87. First, 
> I noticed the absents of the quick navigation status announcements in edit 
> fields for apps such as the messages app. I also noticed that in empty text 
> fields, voiceover now no longer says send dimmed. Instead it just says send. 
> I’ve also noticed other behaviors. For example, when using the hardware 
> keyboard to delete messages, quick navigation appears to automatically turn 
> off and the voice prompt asking are you sure you want to delete this 
> conversation either is truncated or the voiceover volume drops while the 
> prompt is being spoken. I also noted that after I have responded to a message 
> and tried to delete it with the hardware keyboard, the screen appears to jump 
> away from that message. The only options I have for deleting a message to 
> which I have responded are to close and reopen the messages app and then 
> using the hardware keyboard, delete the message. Or, using the onscreen 
> keyboard to delete the message. Is there a setting I need to change or is 
> that something with IOS13? Has anyone else seen this? Thanks folks.
> 
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Re: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app

[Christina]

I have now run into the same problem as Kathy, except I had to scroll back 
quite a bit. I was like 2 or 3 days back before the page would not scroll 
anymore. I tried scrolling up and then back down twice to see if that would 
force it to load more tweets and that didn’t work. So, I see what Kathy is 
talking about, but I had to go way way back in my timeline to encounter this.

Christina\

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello Cathy,
> 
> I have been thinking about your issue for a few days with the native Twitter 
> app. Here’s my thoughts…
> 
> The see new tweets button is acting as expected. It’s loading the newest 
> tweets and jumping you to the top of the time line as that is where the new 
> tweets are located. In order to scroll to older tweets when you think you 
> have come to the end you will need to perform a three finger drag up and this 
> will load more tweets at the bottom of the newsfeed. I believe the native 
> Twitter app only cashes something like 200 tweets. So like I said above try 
> doing a three finger drag up to load more of the older tweets that you have 
> not read.
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> Ed W.
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Christina and Mark,
>> I am still on my iPhone 5s, which is running iOS 12.4.2, and I have Twitter 
>> version 7.60. Coincidentally or otherwise, when I turn voiceover off and 
>> scrolled up, and turned it back on, then it seemed like I got to read more 
>> continuously.
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>> The twitter app isn’t behaving that way at all for me. It just continuously 
>> scrolls down. Make sure you have the latest Twitter app because they just 
>> updated it a day or 2 ago. One other idea is to make sure your wifi data or 
>> data signal is strong. Also try rebooting your phone. FYI, I’m running iOS 
>> 13.1.2, on an iPhone 11 and my Twitter app is up to date.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I go to see latest tweets, and flick from one tweet to the next. At the 
>>> bottom of the screen, just above compose tweet, it says see new tweets. If 
>>> I were to want to continue reading beneath that last tweet, I can’t, 
>>> because if I double tap on see new tweets, the screen jumps back to the 
>>> top. I want to see new tweets only when I want to see new tweets; I should 
>>> be able to read through 700 if that’s what I want to do before seeing new 
>>> ones if it’s going to send me back to the top of the display and make me 
>>> start over. In the center of the screen I was advised at one point here to 
>>> place a finger briefly in the middle of the screen, and then flick, which 
>>> would let me read more tweets, and for a while in past updates there was 
>>> indeed a show more tweets button, and below that, tweets I presume from 
>>> even much earlier. In any case, if I double tapped on show more tweets, I 
>>> was not sent back to the top of the screen. I hope this clarifies things.
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:11 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Kathy,
>>>> 
>>>> I have read your post several times and I simply do not understand the 
>>>> issue.
>>>> 
>>>> Can you please provide step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce this 
>>>> problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Kathy Brandt
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 7:49 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app
>>>> 
>>>> Past updates had restored the show more tweets button, but with this 
>>>> latest, it’s gone again. After reading what it allows you to, there is a 
>>>> new tweets button, but that puts you back at the top. I know probably they 
>>>> are thinking people want to know what’s happening right then, but it 
>>>> should be my choice when I want to go to new tweets. Placing one finger in 
>>>> the middle of the screen and holding doesn’t seem to work now for letting 
>>>> me go past the point where the display stops.
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Re: Join Me in Requesting that Imbedded Web Links be Made VoiceOver Accessible in Twitter for iOS13

[Christina]

Thanks for the clarification. That makes complete sense. I hope Twitter fixes 
this soon because links should work when you open a tweet. Thanks for pointing 
this out.

Christina

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> On Oct 6, 2019, at 7:12 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Christina,
> 
> You are correct when activating links directly from a time line.  However, 
> the problem is when one opens a tweet and then attempts to activate imbedded 
> links.  To be even more specific, if an image in a tweet has a link tied to 
> it, then a VoiceOver user can activate it; however, if the link stands alone, 
> as it often does, then there is no VoiceOver access.
> 
> Now you may say, "Well, Mark, just activate tweet links from your timeline."  
>  
> 
> The problem is that, very often, one may wish to open a tweet from the 
> notifications area or the search results area in which case the imbedded link 
> can only be accessed by opening the tweet, itself, which takes us back to the 
> VoiceOver web link access problem.
> 
> Mark 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 4:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Join Me in Requesting that Imbedded Web Links be Made VoiceOver 
> Accessible in Twitter for iOS13
> 
> Sorry. I’m confused. I’m on iOS 13.1.2 and running the latest Twitter 
> official app and I just opened a website from a tweet. Is this only happening 
> with some tweets or from a different area Of the Twitter app ?I was on the 
> home tab in my timeline, and I did a single flick up and there was the link. 
> I double tap and the website opened. Thanks for any clarification. I use 
> Twitterrific for most things, so maybe I am confused.  ☺️ 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 6, 2019, at 12:57 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Okay, in the latest release of Twitter for iOS, in version 13.x, 
>> anyway, a VoiceOver user cannot access web URLs imbedded in a tweet.
>> 
>> This problem has happened before, years ago, and, once made aware of 
>> it, Twitter was relatively fast to fix it.
>> 
>> So, please join me in reporting this issue to Twitter.
>> 
>> You may tweet your request to, @TwitterSupport, and/or use their 
>> feedback portal at help.twitter.com, and/or leave your comments as a 
>> review in the apps store.
>> 
>> I will paste in my comments that you are free to use:
>> 
>> [BEGIN TWEET]:
>> In the latest release of @Twitter for #iOS13, the #VisuallyImpaired 
>> cannot activate imbedded links in a tweet via #Apple's #VoiceOver.  Please 
>> fix.
>> @TwitterSupport.
>> [END TWEET].
>> 
>> [BEGIN PORTAL AND APP STORE COMMENT]:
>> Subject:  In Latest Release for iOS13, The Visually Impaired Cannot 
>> Access Imbedded Web Links.
>> 
>> In the latest release of Twitter for iOS13, the visually impaired 
>> cannot activate imbedded web links in a tweet via VoiceOver, Apple's 
>> screen reading solution for the blind and low vision.
>> 
>> Please fix as soon as possible.
>> 
>> Mark
>> [END PORTAL AND APP STORE COMMENT]:
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Join Me in Requesting that Imbedded Web Links be Made VoiceOver Accessible in Twitter for iOS13

[Christina]

>> Sorry, my mistake, I flicked up twice , not once, to access the link on a 
>> tweet.

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Re: Join Me in Requesting that Imbedded Web Links be Made VoiceOver Accessible in Twitter for iOS13

[Christina]

Sorry. I’m confused. I’m on iOS 13.1.2 and running the latest Twitter official 
app and I just opened a website from a tweet. Is this only happening with some 
tweets or from a different area Of the Twitter app ?I was on the home tab in my 
timeline, and I did a single flick up and there was the link. I double tap and 
the website opened. Thanks for any clarification. I use Twitterrific for most 
things, so maybe I am confused.  ☺️ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2019, at 12:57 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Okay, in the latest release of Twitter for iOS, in version 13.x, anyway, a
> VoiceOver user cannot access web URLs imbedded in a tweet.  
> 
> This problem has happened before, years ago, and, once made aware of it,
> Twitter was relatively fast to fix it.  
> 
> So, please join me in reporting this issue to Twitter.
> 
> You may tweet your request to, @TwitterSupport, and/or use their feedback
> portal at help.twitter.com, and/or leave your comments as a review in the
> apps store.
> 
> I will paste in my comments that you are free to use:
> 
> [BEGIN TWEET]:
> In the latest release of @Twitter for #iOS13, the #VisuallyImpaired cannot
> activate imbedded links in a tweet via #Apple's #VoiceOver.  Please fix.
> @TwitterSupport.
> [END TWEET].
> 
> [BEGIN PORTAL AND APP STORE COMMENT]:
> Subject:  In Latest Release for iOS13, The Visually Impaired Cannot Access
> Imbedded Web Links. 
> 
> In the latest release of Twitter for iOS13, the visually impaired cannot
> activate imbedded web links in a tweet via VoiceOver, Apple's screen reading
> solution for the blind and low vision.
> 
> Please fix as soon as possible.
> 
> Mark
> [END PORTAL AND APP STORE COMMENT]:
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app

[Christina]

Maybe try the Twitterrific app until the scrolling issue improves. Again, try 
powering down your phone, wait a few minutes , then power it back up. Good luck 
☺️ 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Christina and Mark,
> I am still on my iPhone 5s, which is running iOS 12.4.2, and I have Twitter 
> version 7.60. Coincidentally or otherwise, when I turn voiceover off and 
> scrolled up, and turned it back on, then it seemed like I got to read more 
> continuously.
> 
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Christina  wrote:
> 
> The twitter app isn’t behaving that way at all for me. It just continuously 
> scrolls down. Make sure you have the latest Twitter app because they just 
> updated it a day or 2 ago. One other idea is to make sure your wifi data or 
> data signal is strong. Also try rebooting your phone. FYI, I’m running iOS 
> 13.1.2, on an iPhone 11 and my Twitter app is up to date.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>> 
>> I go to see latest tweets, and flick from one tweet to the next. At the 
>> bottom of the screen, just above compose tweet, it says see new tweets. If I 
>> were to want to continue reading beneath that last tweet, I can’t, because 
>> if I double tap on see new tweets, the screen jumps back to the top. I want 
>> to see new tweets only when I want to see new tweets; I should be able to 
>> read through 700 if that’s what I want to do before seeing new ones if it’s 
>> going to send me back to the top of the display and make me start over. In 
>> the center of the screen I was advised at one point here to place a finger 
>> briefly in the middle of the screen, and then flick, which would let me read 
>> more tweets, and for a while in past updates there was indeed a show more 
>> tweets button, and below that, tweets I presume from even much earlier. In 
>> any case, if I double tapped on show more tweets, I was not sent back to the 
>> top of the screen. I hope this clarifies things.
>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:11 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Kathy,
>>> 
>>> I have read your post several times and I simply do not understand the 
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> Can you please provide step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce this 
>>> problem?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Kathy Brandt
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 7:49 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app
>>> 
>>> Past updates had restored the show more tweets button, but with this 
>>> latest, it’s gone again. After reading what it allows you to, there is a 
>>> new tweets button, but that puts you back at the top. I know probably they 
>>> are thinking people want to know what’s happening right then, but it should 
>>> be my choice when I want to go to new tweets. Placing one finger in the 
>>> middle of the screen and holding doesn’t seem to work now for letting me go 
>>> past the point where the display stops.
>>> 
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Re: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app

[Christina]

The twitter app isn’t behaving that way at all for me. It just continuously 
scrolls down. Make sure you have the latest Twitter app because they just 
updated it a day or 2 ago. One other idea is to make sure your wifi data or 
data signal is strong. Also try rebooting your phone. FYI, I’m running iOS 
13.1.2, on an iPhone 11 and my Twitter app is up to date.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> I go to see latest tweets, and flick from one tweet to the next. At the 
> bottom of the screen, just above compose tweet, it says see new tweets. If I 
> were to want to continue reading beneath that last tweet, I can’t, because if 
> I double tap on see new tweets, the screen jumps back to the top. I want to 
> see new tweets only when I want to see new tweets; I should be able to read 
> through 700 if that’s what I want to do before seeing new ones if it’s going 
> to send me back to the top of the display and make me start over. In the 
> center of the screen I was advised at one point here to place a finger 
> briefly in the middle of the screen, and then flick, which would let me read 
> more tweets, and for a while in past updates there was indeed a show more 
> tweets button, and below that, tweets I presume from even much earlier. In 
> any case, if I double tapped on show more tweets, I was not sent back to the 
> top of the screen. I hope this clarifies things.
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 10:11 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Kathy,
>> 
>> I have read your post several times and I simply do not understand the issue.
>> 
>> Can you please provide step-by-step instructions on how to reproduce this 
>> problem?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
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>> Of Kathy Brandt
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>> Subject: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app
>> 
>> Past updates had restored the show more tweets button, but with this latest, 
>> it’s gone again. After reading what it allows you to, there is a new tweets 
>> button, but that puts you back at the top. I know probably they are thinking 
>> people want to know what’s happening right then, but it should be my choice 
>> when I want to go to new tweets. Placing one finger in the middle of the 
>> screen and holding doesn’t seem to work now for letting me go past the point 
>> where the display stops.
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Free audible originals was Details needed on purchasing an Audible book with a credit using the app

[Christina]

There was an Audible app update a couple of days ago. Last night I wanted to 
see what the free audible originals are for October. I can’t find them 
anywhere. The originals tab has been replaced with a channels tab. I looked and 
looked and I can’t find them. I did find an Audible Originals heading under the 
discover tab, but they didn’t seem to be free. Does anyone know where to find 
the free audible originals on the app?

Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 11:00 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> To be honest, I have a tried the Discover tab. If I just want to browse, I 
> tend to use the Audible site itself. So my only experience buying with a 
> credit from within the app has been doing a search, either for an author I’d 
> like to see if they have anything I haven’t read, or a book that I know I 
> want. So it is entirely possible that you can do what you are saying 
> regarding the wish list etc. The key is to find a way to get the page for the 
> book you want up. Once you have that book up, you should find the ability to 
> purchase and add to your library with one credit. But yes, I do think they 
> should’ve put out more information as to how this can be done, rather than 
> leaving it up to folks to just discover it.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> This sounds pretty complicated and you have to know exactly what book you 
>> want if you have to search for it or did I miss anything here, e.g. can I 
>> for example see what's in my wishlist and add it using a credit?
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Details needed on purchasing an Audible book with a credit 
>> using the app
>> 
>> Mary: Thanks very much. I have been wondering how to do this as well.
>> I have looked in the Discover and other tabs in the Audible app, but didn't 
>> think to do a search from the My Library tab. One would think that they 
>> would have told us more about how to use this feature, oh well.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> 
 On 10/4/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> Open the Audible app. Switch to my library if it’s not already there. 
>>> Make sure that all or cloud is checked, rather than “on device“. Then 
>>> do a search for the book that you want. It should show up in the 
>>> results that follow, but just not in your library. Double tap on the 
>>> title. The screen that opens will have things like sample on it. It 
>>> will also tell you how many credits you have. If you move past that, 
>>> you will see a button that says something like add to library for one 
>>> credit. If you double tap that, you’re good to go.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 
 Hi List,
 
 A couple of weeks ago, I received more than one email from Audible 
 touting a new feature allowing one to purchase new Audible books 
 using their app and an account credit. For the life of me, I can't 
 figure out how to do this using the latest Audible version and my iPhone 8 
 running iOS 12.4.1.
 When I find a title I'm interested in and double tap on it to get 
 details about the book, I get a button to sample now and a 
 publisher's summary but nothing about buying it with a credit. I do 
 get an option to remove it from my wish list for titles I've placed there.
 
 I'm curious what others are experiencing with using the app and 
 buying with a credit. Voiceover just doesn't seem to offer me the 
 control button I need to do this.
 
 Thanks in advance for any details you can share.
 
 Alan Lemly
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Re: Details needed on purchasing an Audible book with a credit using the app

[Christina]

Hi, It’s actually pretty awesome and it’s not complicated at all. The app has a 
home tab as well as a discover tab to poke around at books. It’s not as robust 
as the website, but it’s pretty good. There is a from my wish list section, but 
I haven’t explored that very much to see if it’s my actual wish list or a mix 
of books I added and or suggestions of books based on  my wish list. Overall 
it’s really great to be able to get audible books with a credit right through 
the app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2019, at 10:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This sounds pretty complicated and you have to know exactly what book you 
> want if you have to search for it or did I miss anything here, e.g. can I for 
> example see what's in my wishlist and add it using a credit?
> 
> .
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 9:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Details needed on purchasing an Audible book with a credit using 
> the app
> 
> Mary: Thanks very much. I have been wondering how to do this as well.
> I have looked in the Discover and other tabs in the Audible app, but didn't 
> think to do a search from the My Library tab. One would think that they would 
> have told us more about how to use this feature, oh well.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 10/4/19, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> Open the Audible app. Switch to my library if it’s not already there. 
>> Make sure that all or cloud is checked, rather than “on device“. Then 
>> do a search for the book that you want. It should show up in the 
>> results that follow, but just not in your library. Double tap on the 
>> title. The screen that opens will have things like sample on it. It 
>> will also tell you how many credits you have. If you move past that, 
>> you will see a button that says something like add to library for one 
>> credit. If you double tap that, you’re good to go.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:21 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi List,
>>> 
>>> A couple of weeks ago, I received more than one email from Audible 
>>> touting a new feature allowing one to purchase new Audible books 
>>> using their app and an account credit. For the life of me, I can't 
>>> figure out how to do this using the latest Audible version and my iPhone 8 
>>> running iOS 12.4.1.
>>> When I find a title I'm interested in and double tap on it to get 
>>> details about the book, I get a button to sample now and a 
>>> publisher's summary but nothing about buying it with a credit. I do 
>>> get an option to remove it from my wish list for titles I've placed there.
>>> 
>>> I'm curious what others are experiencing with using the app and 
>>> buying with a credit. Voiceover just doesn't seem to offer me the 
>>> control button I need to do this.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any details you can share.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
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Re: strange problem within a couple of Apps, phone reads by itself

[Christina]

I’m not sure that I completely understand, but I highly recommend that you 
clear your app switcher, power down your iPhone, wait a few minutes and power 
it back up. I have had to do this more than usual since iOS 13 and it has fixed 
some glitches I didn’t expect it to fix.

HTH,
Christina

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> On Oct 3, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I don't exactly know how to explain an odd problem that I have now 
> encountered twice.
> 
> However, I am hoping that with the bit of information I can give, 
> someone might know what I am talking about.
> 
> 
> Alright, a few days ago I was on Facebook. I clicked on a video posted 
> by the TV show, This Is Us. Before I even got the video playing, the 
> text that was on the screen, started reading by itself. I was not even 
> trying to read through it. The phone seemed to stutter, and would repeat 
> text, cut off, and even start over. I didn't know what to make of it. I 
> thought that maybe it was some odd way the layout was set up. So I just 
> closed it out.
> 
> 
> But then again, on the next day, I went in to 1 of my local TV station 
> Apps, to read a news story. The same sort of thing happened. I clicked 
> on the story. Before I could even scroll through it on my own, the phone 
> attempted to try to read it on it's own. Again, it stuttered badly. It 
> kept starting over, or breaking up. It was so odd! But it was also so 
> bad that I couldn't read the article.
> 
> 
> What could be causing this?
> 
> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?
> 
> The even bigger question is, can I do anythough about it.
> 
> 
> Any help would be so very much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: Another Question About Selecting Text

[Christina]

Always make sure you have a cursor in an edit field, otherwise, you might not 
find the edit in the rotor. If you are in in an edit field and you still don’t 
have the edit option in the rotor, do what Richard suggested below. Also, on 
rare occasions, I will have to type a space then delete it and then the edit 
will show up in the rotor.

HTH,
Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2019, at 1:51 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  If she is on iOS 13, have her try double tapping in the edit field a couple 
> times, to get the cursor at the beginning, then edit should show up.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:31 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> A friend of mine has copied text to her clipboard to be pasted but she 
>> couldn't find edit in her rotor to be able to choose paste.  What do you do 
>> to be able to paste it if edit is not in your rotor? Sometimes edit is there 
>> and other times you can't find it on a particular website.  This same thing 
>> has happened to me. 
>>  
>> Shirley
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Re: Problem continuously scrolling in native Twitter app

[Christina]

I’m on version 7.60, which came out a couple of days ago, and I’m able to 
scroll down just fine on my timeline. I don’t use the Twitter app much because 
Twitterrific works better for me personally.
Best of luck,
Christina

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> Past updates had restored the show more tweets button, but with this latest, 
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> people want to know what’s happening right then, but it should be my choice 
> when I want to go to new tweets. Placing one finger in the middle of the 
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Re: Problem with VO, File Browser and IOS13.2

[Christina]

When you’re on the app store updates page, make sure to refresh the screen. 
Make sure you are at the very top of the page and perform a 3-finger swipe 
down. Then recheck what updates might be available and hopefully you’ll see the 
VDR update.

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Re: Facial recognition

[Christina]

Try holding the phone further away from your face. Also, make sure your phone 
is in portrait not landscape. I also think resetting up your face ID can be 
helpful. I had trouble with my first face ID, then I got sighted help the 
second go around.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 10:21 AM, richr...@gmail.com wrote:
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> 
> Hello everyone,
> I have upgraded from an iPhone 8 to an iPhone 11.
> I have set up face ID more than once.
> However, when attempting to unlock my phone, it never recognizes my face, and 
> I must enter my passcode. Now, this is not the end of the world, but is there 
> anything anyone can suggest to help make face ID function as it should?
> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: Format options replacing reader mode button in iOS 13

[Christina]

> I think he means the actions rotor/actions menu. Put VO focus on the format 
> options button and then swipe up.

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Handwriting feature when entering passcode

[Christina]

I’m on an iPhone 11. I was wondering if anyone has encountered this problem. I 
can’t enter my unlock passcode with handwriting. It doesn’t seem to recognize 
certain numbers. I’ve always done my passcode this way because it’s more 
discrete because there isn’t as much VO feedback that people around can hear. 
Anyways, I can’t use handwriting anymore for this. And in case you are 
wondering, yes, I’ve rebooted my phone multiple times. I’m on iOS 13.1.1.

Christina

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Re: Format options replacing reader mode button in iOS 13

[Christina]

I find the extra step annoying. Another place where I now have an extra step is 
in the messages app. On the main screen with a list of text conversations, I 
used to double tap edit, then go to the bottom of the screen and double tap 
read all. Now I have an extra step and it’s annoying.

Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  For what it is worth, I agree with you Mary.
> If you have it on in Safari settings, and find a page in't working right, you 
> can go to that format button and there is a hide reader view button.
> But, it was easier the old way.
> Maybe if enough people write Apple and request it, we could have a Reader 
> button and a format button.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 28, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>> With iOS 13, the reader mode button is gone on webpages. Now, there is a 
>> format options in its place. You have to activate that, then find reader, 
>> and activate that. That’s two steps instead of one. A step back in my view. 
>> Is there a way to get it back the way it used to be? I don’t care about the 
>> other format options. I realize others probably do, and that’s why they are 
>> there. But all I want is the reader mode. I know you can go into settings 
>> for Safari and have it turn reader mode to be always on for all websites. 
>> But reader mode is not appropriate for all websites. So I turned it on and I 
>> will see how it goes. But I suspect it is going to be problematic on sites 
>> where there isn’t and shouldn’t be a reader mode option. Sometimes, I think 
>> they make things more complicated than they need to be.
>> Mary
>> 
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Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out

[Christina]

Also, I don’t think the control key works either in WhatsApp because I tried 
the control plus spacebar to pull up the onscreen keyboard so i could try 
inserting punctuation that way since the shift key doesn’t work, but it didn’t 
work. I did report this to WhatsApp and they responded a few days ago saying 
that they escalated it to the developers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can also confirm this, hopefully everybody is reporting this to WhatsApp as 
> a bug.
>  
> From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 3:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bluetooth keyboards was Re: IOS 13.1.1 is out
>  
> Hi all 
>  
> I’ve just updated to 13.1.1 and am having exactly the same issue with my 
> bluetooth keyboard ... the shift key when using Whatsapp is absolutely 
> useless!! 
>  
> Eleanor 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On 28 Sep 2019, at 18:59, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Except in the Whatsapp app, in which if you try Shift+4 for instance it will 
> type the number four, instead of the dolar sign; Shift+5 won’t type the 
> percent sign etc., but on all other apps, the Bluetooth keyboard works great!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
> 
> El 28 sep 2019, a la(s) 11:26 a. m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I’ve started a new thread to focus on the issue now being discussed under the 
> iOS 13.1.1 is out thread.
>  
> I have never known of any Bluetooth keyboard issues.  Did I miss something?
>  
> The only issues I know of where keyboards are concerned is the third party 
> software keyboards like FlickType and MBraille.
> Physical external keyboards have worked fine for me through the beta cycle 
> and now with iOS 13.1.1.
> I have a logictech and I know someone with an Anchor that hasn’t really had 
> any issues.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
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Accessible scale

[Christina]

My talking bathroom scale died. I need to replace it, but was considering a 
smart scale. Can I please get some recommendations for scales that are 
accessible through an app.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Some emoticon questions in texts

[Christina C.]

Hi I use text replacements for emojis so that I don’t have to leave the 
alphabet keyboard.  For example, I created a shortcut “cbm” for the Clinking 
Beer Mugs emoji within keyboard settings of IOS.  So, when I type the letters 
“cbm” if I hit space or punctuation then “cbm” is replaced with the Clinking 
beer mugs Emoji. I created a bunch of text replacements/shortcuts that I have 
memorized. It saves me tons and tons of time.  Also, these text replacements 
are synced across your devices that use your iCloud account, including Mac. ☺️ 
Just be careful not to use a shortcut that is a complete word unless you want 
that complete word to always be replaced by an emoji every time you type that 
word. For example if you use the word sob for the shortcut to the stack of 
books emoji you might not appreciate that if you actually wanted the word sob.  
Also, be careful that you don’t use other abbreviations accidentally like NFL, 
ACB< NFB, and so on and so forth. ☺️ As a rule of thumb for myself, I try to 
stick to only 2 or 3 letters per shortcut and sometimes I do use four letters.  
Do whatever is comfortable for you though.  I try to use as few letters as 
possible for my shortcuts/text replacements to save time, especially when using 
the on screen keyboard.

Also, someone asked about switching to the emoji Keyboard while using an 
external keyboard.  Pressing Control plus spacebar will cycle through your iOS 
keyboards.  However, at that point I use the touch screen to choose an emoji.

HTH,
Christina 
> On Jul 28, 2017, at 10:14 PM, ⁨Liel Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎⁩ 
> <⁨liel...@gmail.com⁩> wrote:
> 
> Hi! More tip that ican give, if you cross to keybord for emogy you can move 
> to headings in VoiceOver rotor and you will find the heading of category that 
> you find, if i take ann example of "people and smiles" you can flick between 
> them and double tapp on one from them.
> 
> Sent from  my iphone
> 
> ‫ב-28 ביולי 2017, בשעה 23:56, ‏‏Anthony Vece ‏ <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>> כתב/ה:‬
> 
>> If you type in the 3 digits will it bring up the one you?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 7!!!
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Donna > <mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Jen,
>>> 
>>> You might find this list helpful. 
>>> 
>>> To quickly find the beginning of a particular emoji category; with the 
>>> emoji keyboard on screen, if you touch just above the Home button you will 
>>> find the 9 different tabs for each category. If you tap on one of the 
>>> category tabs you should be brought close to the beginning of the selected 
>>> category. If not, a few flicks left to right or vice versa should get you 
>>> to the beginning. Following the list below will also aid you in finding the 
>>> beginning of each category. 
>>> 
>>>> Frequently Used 1-30
>>>> Smileys & People 31-320
>>>> Animals & Nature 321-480
>>>> Food & Drink 481-566
>>>> Activity 567-646
>>>> Travel & Places 647-765
>>>> Objects 766-938
>>>> Symbols 939-1,209
>>>> Flags 1,210-1,462
>>>> 
>>>> Donna 
>>>>> 
>>>>> can I ask what is the easiest way with VoiceOver to get to the top of a 
>>>>> category
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Donna >>> <mailto:merma...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Richard,
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, I don't have a list of the emojis. I do use emojis a lot when sending 
>>>>> text messages, Facebook post & comments. The emojis are pretty much 
>>>>> straight forward in the way they are categorized. The only 2 categories 
>>>>> of emojis that don't make much sense on how they are grouped together are 
>>>>> the Objects & Symbols categories.  The first 30 emojis are the emojis 
>>>>> that are most frequently used. 31 through 320. are Smiley's & People. 321 
>>>>> through 566 are Food & Drink. 567 through 646 are Activity Emojis. 647 
>>>>> through 765 are Travel & Places. 766 through 938 are Object Emojis. 939 
>>>>> through 1,209 are Symbols Emojis. 1,210 through 1,462 are Flag emojis. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this helps. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna   
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>> Do you have a list of all these?
>>>>>> You seem to know which one is and where it is.
>>>>>> If there 

Re: Unable to receive calls when iPhone is locked

[Christina]

Is there any chance that you have do not disturb turned on? On my phone, if I 
touch the status bar, if I flick just to the right of the time… It will say do 
not disturb if it is indeed enabled.  I hope you get this resolved very soon. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> Hi all, the subject line is my problem.
> I am not able to receive calls when the phone is locked. I have checked both 
> on the side of the phone and in the control centre and do not disturb is off. 
> please can anybody give me any urgent help on this one?
> Thanks for any pointers.
> Max.
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Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Christina]

Thank you! It is definitely the Function key. I had never seen that before.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:25 PM, Ann Larson  wrote:
> 
> My guess is that it is the function key. On a keyboard that I have, this is 
> the case. :) 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Christina  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to 
>> be the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the 
>> bottom left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the 
>> option key is. On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then 
>> the second key is the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is 
>> the option. So, I thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was 
>> not. Now I have to figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control 
>> and option is. *scratching my head*
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for 
>>> VoiceOver commands.
>>> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
>>> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Christina C.
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
>>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a 
>>> logitech K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The 
>>> description says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were 
>>> the VO keys to perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use 
>>> these keys with an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I 
>>> have a Mac and I am very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any 
>>> info or help.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> Christina
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Re: help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Christina]

Thanks! I may have figured out one thing. The far bottom left key seems to be 
the control key. While the option key seems to be the third key from the bottom 
left. I have no idea what they key inbetween the control and the option key is. 
On my Mac the far bottom left key is the function key, then the second key is 
the control key, and the third key from the bottom left is the option. So, I 
thought I was pressing the control plus option, but I was not. Now I have to 
figure out what that mysterious button inbetween control and option is. 
*scratching my head*

Christina

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 31, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I don't know that keyboard, but control and option are the keys for VoiceOver 
> commands.
> Did you try control+option+h to go to the home screen?
> Or control+option+spacebar to activate an icon, app, etc.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 6:53 PM
> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: help with keyboard command Vo Keys
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
> K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description 
> says it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
> perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with 
> an arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am 
> very familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.
> 
> Thanks so much,
> Christina
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help with keyboard command Vo Keys

[Christina C.]

Hi all,

I just purchased my first bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone. It’s a logitech 
K380 compact keyboard. It’s the size of a laptop keyboard. The description says 
it fully supports iOS. I thought control plus option were the VO keys to 
perform various tasks. All I get is a bonk when I try to use these keys with an 
arrow or anything else. Am I doing something wrong? I have a Mac and I am very 
familiar with using VO keys. I’d appreciate any info or help.

Thanks so much,
Christina

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Ulysses was Re: Text editing/word processing

[Christina C.]

Hey there,

If you don’t mind can you please tell me, especially from a blindness/voiceover 
user’s perspective as to why you chose or prefer ulysses over Scrivner. 
Currently, I am trying to decide which word processor I want to invest the time 
to learn as well as the money in. 

Also, is it easy to spell check and to format the document with voiceover with 
Ulysses on the iPhone?

Thanks so much,
Christina

.
> On Jan 31, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> Ulysses

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Re: measuring wifi strength with free app

[Christina C.]

am I doing something wrong? I’m getting speed test results around 450 but if I 
do a speedtest.net <http://speedtest.net/> I get in the 20’s or 30’s and I only 
pay for 40 mbps. I don’t get it at all.

Thanks os much,
Christina
> On Dec 4, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Double tap and hold on the record button for a while and it will give you an 
> average in MBPS, millibytes per second.
> 
> Depending on what speed you are paying for, good could be anything from 25 to 
> 100...
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 5:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: measuring wifi strength with free app
> 
> Hi Chip,
> What would be a good number? Say like what would be Best, Good, Medium, and 
> poor?
> I have a reading about 122 right at the modem. If I go about 20 feet away 
> with nothing in the way it is about 45 and If I go to my wife chair in the 
> living room with some walls in the way it is about 55. Even right next to the 
> modem with the wifi on it, it very up and down about 40 points and that is 
> holding the iPhone about two feet away. What is a normal reading.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 2:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: measuring wifi strength with free app
> 
> Thanks, Chip. Well, that was depressing, testing that app. I knew my 
> downstairs signal was lousy, but I didn't know how lousy. Now I do.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Chip Orange  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just an FYI that I came across a very handy free app which helps you 
>> measure your wifi strength and throughput at a given spot; the app is 
>> named "wifi sweet spot" and is free, and even has an audio output mode 
>> which generates beeps similar to a "giger counter" to indicate the 
>> current strength (note that the label for the button to turn audio 
>> mode on/off does disappear after the first use, but you should have no 
>> trouble identifying the button even so).  It also has a numeric 
>> constant display which gives you more presice info.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You can use it to map out weak areas in your house, or to allow you to 
>> reposition your wifi router and see what effect this has on signal at 
>> a given point.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This helped me determine that repositioning my router just slightly 
>> within the closet where it resides makes a big difference in some of 
>> the weaker areas of my house (where I was having difficulty placing an Echo).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
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faces in photos

[Christina C.]

Greetings How do I get photos on iOS to recognize faces? Does it just use my 
contacts and their contact photo, or is there some training process somewhere? 
Also, it’s highly possible that I imagined this as a feature somewhere. Maybe 
this is a feature on the Mac only? I’m really not sure. :) 

Thanks,
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Re: iMazing and IPA files

[Christina C.]

Bummer.  Thanks but I want this particular version and the app store will 
download the latest version instead of this slightly older version. :) 

Christina
> On Oct 9, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Shaf Patel  wrote:
> 
> Not anymore, as per Apple restrictions/app thinning. However, you can
> download the app directly to your computer through the App Store via
> iTunes on your PC/Mac.
> 
> On 10/9/2016 11:04 PM, Christina C. wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Will iMazing allow you to take an IPA file from an iDevice and put it on a 
>> Mac? I’d love to get a particular version of an app from my iDevice backed 
>> up to my Mac. I don’t necessarily need the document files for that app but I 
>> need the actual app. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Christina
>> 
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iMazing and IPA files

[Christina C.]

Hello,

Will iMazing allow you to take an IPA file from an iDevice and put it on a Mac? 
I’d love to get a particular version of an app from my iDevice backed up to my 
Mac. I don’t necessarily need the document files for that app but I need the 
actual app. 

Thanks,
Christina

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Rich Links in iMessages

[Christina C.]

Hi,

I have googled this and I can’t seem to find any helpful info. I absolutely do 
not like the way imessages is handling links. iMessages is changing links into 
fancy Rich Links. I am having a lot of trouble with these things. If I send a 
link to someone sometimes the link does not even take them to the page I sent 
them. I know I sent the correct link because it won’t work on iDevices using 
iOS 10 but the links works perfectly in iMessages on Macs still on El Capitan. 

The second problem I am having is that voice Over is changing the text that 
goes along with the link. Sometimes I send text, then the link and that text 
dissappears to voice Over but I’m not sure if it’s there visually to a sighted 
person.

The third problem is that I don’t know how to get the information I need from 
this Rich Link via voice Over. All voice Over might say is amazonperiod. or 
something like that.

I’d appreciate any tips or help to navigate these rich links.

Thanks,
Christina

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Voice Dream Reader and iCloud

[Christina C.]

Hi,

I never did turn on iCloud sync with Voice Dream Reader. Now that some time has 
passed, I was wondering if you are loving it and if the wrinkles have been 
ironed out. I’d also like to know what things I might need to be aware of if I 
turn on the iCloud sync for Voice Dream Reader. I would backup my library 
before I try it. However, I’d like to know what you all think before I decide 
to try it.

Thanks so much,
Christina

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changing pronunciation isn't working

[Christina C.]

Hello,

Does the pronunciation additions only work with enhanced voices. I have added 
some pronunciations and compact Samantha isn’t using the new pronunciations. 
For example, I hate the way she says tornado. I am pretty sure that I properly 
added a word, have it set for all languages, and the play button has Samantha 
saying tornado correctly. However, Samantha still won’t say tornado correctly.

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?

[Christina C.]

You can’t but if you want ot do a sound check you can start a conversation with 
rogerbot to test to hear back how you sound.

Christina
> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Beverly  wrote:
> 
> You can't.  
>  
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
>> To: VIPhone Email List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 2:04 PM
>> Subject: How Can I Review Voice Messages I've Sent with the Roger App?
>> 
>> I just listened to the AppleVis podcast on the Roger app and am trying it on 
>> my iPhone 6. I like its audio quality and how it allows me to send voice 
>> messages. I tested the app by recording a voice message to one of my 
>> contacts not yet on Roger but I can't figure out how to review what I 
>> recorded and sent.
>>  
>> Can anyone with more experience with the Roger app tell me how I can review 
>> the Rogers I've sent? I tried opening the link which was in the text that I 
>> sent containing my first Roger message but I couldn't figure out how to hear 
>> the recording.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance for any assistance you can offer.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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Re: Twitterrific update

[Christina C.]

Give it some time and practice. :) It works great for me and I have not had any 
problems.

Christina
> On May 4, 2016, at 3:56 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't like the rotor being  yoused in this way. I find that it sometimes 
> kicks in when I don't want it and you end up making a mess of things and 
> having to correct. I really just don't like it! :-) I hope it does evolve 
> into something that means you can choose whether or not you want to have the 
> facility turned on. 
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
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> On 4 May 2016, at 20:59, Feliciano Godoy  <mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> You must swipe up to find the link if there is a link available on the tweet. 
> If you have the latest version of the app. I love how they implemented the 
> action to the rotor. I had suggested this  a few months ago.
> 
> Regards,
> Feliciano
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> On May 4, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Mary Otten  <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I read in the update that there was an action rotor. I tried it and didn't 
>> find what I wanted. Maybe I tried it at the wrong time. I tried it after 
>> double tapping on the tweet which gave me that big list. When do you find 
>> the ability to get to the webpage using the action router?
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2016, at 10:56 AM, Cristóbal >> <mailto:crismuno...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's an action rotor now. Flick down  and you'll come across the links 
>>> in the tweet.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of david gross
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 10:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Twitterrific update
>>> 
>>> When I try to read the attached news articles or stories, all it gives me 
>>> is a list of replies and a link that does not open the story. Is anyone 
>>> else having this issue. Please advise
>>> 
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Re: a few tweetings questions

[Christina C.]

I figured out question number two. :) In tweetings, In settings, look and feel, 
in-line photos, I changed it from disabled to thumbnails. Now, images with alt 
text are read by VO in my timeline without any noticeable negative outcomes. 
I’ve noticed though that the images with alt text are not read in my timeline 
if the tweet is  a quoted retweet with an image with alt text. In those cases I 
have to open the tweet to hear the image description.
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Christina,
> 1. I don't know, I've never heard of Ninja Mode or the media mode.
> 2. There have been a couple of updates to Tweetings recently relating
> to image descriptions and accessibility options. If you don't have the
> latest, then find it in the Updates tab of the App Store. This is a
> very new feature so they will probably make more refinements to it as
> we go on.
> 3. That could be because you have told Tweetings to not show
> notifications in the notification center. Try looking in
> Settings/Notification Center, and then look for Tweetings.
> 
> Good luck,
> Wayne
> 
> On 4/25/16, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> For those with IPhones without 3D Touch capabilities, does Tweetings offer a
>> Widgit to quickly compose a tweet?
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
>> 
>>> El 25/04/2016, a las 5:21 p.m., Christina C. 
>>> escribió:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 1.  If I tap the timeline options button, I get a choice of Ninja Mode and
>>> media timeline. what do those do?
>>> 
>>> 2.  If a tweet with a picture has image descriptions, is there a way to
>>> know or hear them when flicking through my timeline? So far, I only catch
>>> an image description if I open the tweet and flick to the image. I was
>>> just wondering if there is a more efficient way, especially since so far
>>> most images do not have a description.
>>> 
>>> 3.  In the tweetings app, is there a place to find my notifications?
>>> Sometimes I hear a bird sound and I’m not quick enough to get to the
>>> banner at the top of the screen. These notifications are not showing up on
>>> my notification center via the three finger swipe down.
>>> 
>>> Thank you all ahead of time for any help in pointing me in the right
>>> direction :)
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got VO to read alt text for pics in tweetings main timeline

[Christina C.]

I was frustrated that I could only get VO to read image descriptions if I 
opened the tweet and flicked to the image. Anyways, I went to settings, look 
and feel and changed in line images from disabled to thumbnail. Now it appears 
so far that images with alt text are being read in my timeline. I am 
experimenting so I can't report on any long term experience nor have I tried 
any of the other options for in Line photos.

Good luck and I hope someone finds this helpful.

Christina

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a few tweetings questions

[Christina C.]

Hi,

1.  If I tap the timeline options button, I get a choice of Ninja Mode and 
media timeline. what do those do?

2.  If a tweet with a picture has image descriptions, is there a way to know or 
hear them when flicking through my timeline? So far, I only catch an image 
description if I open the tweet and flick to the image. I was just wondering if 
there is a more efficient way, especially since so far most images do not have 
a description.

3.  In the tweetings app, is there a place to find my notifications? Sometimes 
I hear a bird sound and I’m not quick enough to get to the banner at the top of 
the screen. These notifications are not showing up on my notification center 
via the three finger swipe down.

Thank you all ahead of time for any help in pointing me in the right direction 
:) 

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Re: Sharing links on twitter via Safari extension

[Christina C.]

Yes, that makes sense. That is how I expected it to work but the links were nto 
in my twitter posts, just the title showed up in my timeline. The weird thing 
is that it’s working now. I wonder if Twitter and it’s URL handler or whatever 
it’s called was down for a little bit or something. All I know is that it’s 
working now just fine. :)


> On Apr 19, 2016, at 7:47 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I think the link shows up after you send the tweet, inside the
> tweet itself.I use Twitterific on the IPhone. I tweeted a link to a
> New Yorker article this morning. I used "Share" at the bottom of the
> article, and selected Twitter, I wrote a short message about the
> article (which just won the Pulitzer Prize - and then hit "Post" or
> "send" or whatever it says. Then, listed among my Tweets in
> Twitterific, I saw my tweet, I clicked on it by tapping, and the link
> was at the top of the next page, where I could tap on that and open
> the article.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> Penny
> 
> p.s., If you want to tweet super-easily from your pc, download
> EasyChirp.com -- it's fantastic, and it even includes a feature that
> automatically shortens the URL so it will fit inside your tweet.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> On 4/19/16, Christina C.  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I feel pretty dumb but I can’t figure this out. If I am in Safari and I want
>> to share a link I can’t get the link to show up on the tweet. When I am on
>> the web page I want to share, I tap the share button at the bottom. Then I
>> click twitter, or tweetings. I have both apps on my phone and I have tried
>> both. Then a dialogue pops up with a tweet with the title of the web page
>> already typed up. I cannot find the link anywhere. However, the number of
>> characters left has less than it should. I therefore thought that the link
>> would show up once the tweet is sent. However, when I looked at my posts
>> they did not have a link. Anyways, I have tried everything I can think of.
>> Am I supposed to copy the link to the clipboard before I try to share it to
>> twitter, then paste the link in?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Christina
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Sharing links on twitter via Safari extension

[Christina C.]

Hello,

I feel pretty dumb but I can’t figure this out. If I am in Safari and I want to 
share a link I can’t get the link to show up on the tweet. When I am on the web 
page I want to share, I tap the share button at the bottom. Then I click 
twitter, or tweetings. I have both apps on my phone and I have tried both. Then 
a dialogue pops up with a tweet with the title of the web page already typed 
up. I cannot find the link anywhere. However, the number of characters left has 
less than it should. I therefore thought that the link would show up once the 
tweet is sent. However, when I looked at my posts they did not have a link. 
Anyways, I have tried everything I can think of. Am I supposed to copy the link 
to the clipboard before I try to share it to twitter, then paste the link in?

Thanks for any help,
Christina

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Re: Changing calendar views.

[Christina C.]

Yeah, I haven’t been able to figure out the calendar app for around a year or 
more now. I can use it to make appointments but that’s it. I use Fantastical 2 
now. Although, I’m not super proficient on that but I find their list view very 
useful. I hope someone here can help you with apple’s Calendar.
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 2:04 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
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> The calendar has gotten really weird in iOS 9. I'm seeing one day, then a 
> bunch of hours listed. I can't seem to be able to find multiple days on the 
> screen like I used to be able to. I selected the list view button, but all 
> that gave me was days that showed up as headings, and underneath the headings 
> were all the appointments for that day. Navigating by heading in this few 
> produced very unreliable results, particularly when going up by heading 
> rather than down by heading. I would jump from one date to the next, 
> sometimes not even in reverse-chronological order,even though I was flicking 
> up I don't like either of these views. The way I used to have my calendar set 
> up is that all the days/dates would run in rows and columns across the 
> screen, but no events would show for a specific day unless it was selected, 
> and the events only for that selected day showed up at the bottom of the 
> screen. How can I get this view back? I'm running iOS 9 .3 on my iPhone 6S.
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Re: chromecast, amazon fire stick?

[Christina C.]

the important thing with the Chromecast is to make sure the app you want to 
“cast” to the tv supports the Chromecast and is voice Over accessible. Last 
time I checked, none of  apple's iOS apps support the Chromecast. There are 
other third party apps on iOS that work with the Chromecast though like 
Netflix. Look online for a list of iOS apps that support the Chromecast. I 
personally feel the apple TV is the better way to go if you are heavily 
invested in the apple ecosystem and prefer to buy and rent movies and music 
through apple. However, if you only want to cast Netflix and google’s media one 
may be satisfied with the more economical Chromecast.

Good Luck

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twitter handles in tweetings

[Christina C.]

When composing a tweet and I need to tag someone, sometimes I can’t remember 
someone’s exact twitter handle, only remember their actual name but not their 
twitter handle, or I’m lazy. :) Is there an easy way  to have Tweetings help 
with this? So far, if I type the at symbol and start typing the screen name, I 
have not noticed any autocomplete or a quick way to access a list of twitter 
handles. I just end up going back a few screens and then finding the info I 
need and either committing it to memory before I type the tweet or I copy and 
paste. I’d appreciate any advice on how to do this more efficiently. I just 
feel like I’m missing something and their has to be a quicker way. :) I’m sure 
it is probably very obvious to some of you so, please no criticizing. :) 

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Voice dream reader iCloud sync lost my folders

[Christina C.]

Mary, Maybe you could go back to your previous backed up library before you 
turned on iCloud sync where all of your folder structures are in tact. I wonder 
if your folders are even in tact in the backup. Don’t use iCloud sync yet and 
just keep your fingers crossed that Winston will be able to fix this in the 
future and then you could back up your library just in case and then try 
turning on iCloud sync. 

Good luck,
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Re: Facebook artificial intelligence for photos

[Christina]

Have you tried logging out and then logging back in?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:06 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> Still not working for me this morning.  Do I have to swipe every message, I 
> generally start with the two finger swipe to read all and stop if I hear 
> something I wish to take an action on or comment.  
> Probably doing it incorrectly like most things of late.  
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> For me this has been working for some weeks now and there isn't anything I 
> did, it was just there at one point.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> It works for me. I know this because in one photo it said "no automatic alt 
> text available".
>> On 6 Apr 2016, at 01:12, Grant  wrote:
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>> I’ve been reading that Facebook’s artificial intelligence for pictures is 
>> enabled today when using the app on iOS in English. This is so visually 
>> impaired or blind users can identify what objects might be in pictures on 
>> Facebook. Has anyone gotten this to work? I am hearing no difference thus 
>> far. Here is the link where you can read more about this: 
>> http://newsroom.fb.com/news/2016/04/using-artificial-intelligence-to-help-blind-people-see-facebook/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Grant
>> 
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Re: Question for voice dream reader users who lost your folders after upgrade

[Christina]

Oh man, is it something Winston can fix? Maybe if you are patient then you can 
restore from your backup and have your folders again? That is a bummer.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> I lost my folders, not as a result of the update. It was as a result of the 
> cloud sync. The folders updated fine from the old format to the new. 
> Everything was there, including the structure. The cloud sync killed it.
> Mary
> 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Christina C.  wrote:
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>> If you restore your library from a backup, will you get your folders back? I 
>> back upped my library before I installed the update. I don’t use folders so 
>> I don’t have any experience to reference. Good Luck.
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Re: Is anybody having any success with the Fleksy keyboard?

[Christina C.]

I just could not get efficient with Fleksy. I kept accidentally hitting keys 
that are not letters like the shift key and fleksy could not interpret my 
typing into words that were even close to what I meant. I was using the minimal 
keyboard but I just could not stop hitting keys that were not letters. :( I 
just don’t have the skills. I think there are plenty of people who are 
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Re: Question for voice dream reader users who lost your folders after upgrade

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If you restore your library from a backup, will you get your folders back? I 
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Re: Facebook artificial intelligence for photos

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I think I read on twitter if it’s not working to log out of the faceBook app 
and then log back in or something like that. I don’t remember reading that you 
have to uninstall the app but I didn’t place that close of attention since I am 
one of those weird people who didn’t like faceBook and deleted my account. One 
thing I hated was all the photos people posted with no caption or comment or 
description as to the context of their photos. It made for a very boring and 
flat experience on FaceBook. So, this topic is interesting to me. I like the 
idea of AI describing the photos since most people probably won’t take the time 
to add alt text for photos. Is it an option for people to add alt text to 
photos like Twitter just added to their official app for iOS? That could be 
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Re: Will I lose my Ivona voice if I update VDR to 4.0

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Thanks, I could have sworn I heard they were going to go away in December. 
Maybe it’s just that they won’t be supported anymore. I think Amazon acquired 
Ivona. I’m obviously confused. :) 
> On Mar 31, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
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> I just checked and the Salli Ivona voice is still listed in the Shop in 
> Manage My Voices in the new VDR 4.00 update. Harry
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>> On 31 Mar 2016, at 17:47, Christina C.  wrote:
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>> Hello,
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>> The last I heard, the Sally Ivona voice was not going to be supported 
>> anymore. If I update my voice Dream Reader will I lose my Sally Ivona voice?
>> 
>> Thanks,
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OmniFocus was Re: Task Manager Apps

[Christina C.]

Hi, the OmniFocus app is quite pricey. Could you please tell me what makes it 
worth the price verses the native free Reminders app. Can you add tasks to 
OmniFocus via Siri? Thanks for any info as i like the reminders app because it 
is very convenient but if there is something out there that would increase my 
productivity even more than that is a good thing.

Thanks 
> On Mar 31, 2016, at 5:22 AM, Antonio Guimaraes  wrote:
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> I swear by OmniFocus
> 
> It has recently become fully accessible, supports subtasks and folders, and 
> interfaces with your calendar.
> 
> It's a bit pricy, But worth every Dollar.
> 
> Antonio
> 
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Re: Voice searching in the Google app

[Christina C.]

It’s been a  while since I used the app but the last time I used the app, you 
have to turn on the OK google option in the settings of the app. Also, as far 
as I know, you can only do the “OK google” within the app.

Christina
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> Thank you. I really missed the boat, as I was not aware you could do OK 
> Google on I device. I thought that was only for android devices.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> You have to hit the back button, which is, more or less, in the lower left 
>> hand corner of the screen, until you get back to the beginning screen, 
>> before you can do another voice search via the voice search button. However, 
>> if you have set it up so that Okay Google will work, you can say Okay google 
>> to start another search, without having to go back to the beginning screen. 
>> Incidentally, VoiceOver often says cancel button after I say Okay Google, so 
>> I turn speech off with the three-finger double tap toggle, or use 
>> headphones,  to avoid confusing google.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" 
>> To: "VIPhone 'Carol Pearson' via" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 6:38 PM
>> Subject: Voice searching in the Google app
>> 
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>> I don't use the Google app that often, because it is more convenient to use 
>> Siri. But since I had heard that Google has introduced a new voice, I 
>> decided to try it. So, I asked Google for the weather, which read, 
>> confirming that there is in fact a new voice. Then I wanted to ask it 
>> something else, but I can't find the voice search button anymore. I can 
>> clear, or cancel, or whatever, but that voice search button is gone. What am 
>> I missing? Can you really only do one voice search once you have open the 
>> Google app? That seems strange.
>> Mary
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Will I lose my Ivona voice if I update VDR to 4.0

[Christina C.]

Hello,

The last I heard, the Sally Ivona voice was not going to be supported anymore. 
If I update my voice Dream Reader will I lose my Sally Ivona voice?

Thanks,
Christina

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Re: Voice Dream Reader 4 is in the App Store

[Christina C.]

I could be wrong but I think the backup that Winston is referring to is not a 
full backup of your iDevice but to back up the actual voice Dream Reader 
Library File via the file sharing portion of iTunes. That way you have the file 
with your library rather than a iTunes backup of your entire phone.  I hope 
that makes sense and I could be wrong.

Christina

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Re: Task Manager Apps

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Have you tried the native reminders app? You can create multiple lists so if 
you need a list for a specific project you can make one. I am not sure about 
sub tasks for tasks though. I’ve never needed to that once I make a specific 
list for a specific task.


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> By tasks, do you mean to-do's, reminders, appointments, or another
> kind of task? Please be more specific about the kind of task you are
> looking to get done.
> 
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Christina C.]

Joney,

What do you remember about it? Was it a four finger swipe and did Tim Cook say 
that it only works on the 6S or 6S plus?  I know a few sighted users of the 
iPhone and one of their biggest gripes is not having a way to move from one 
open app to another very quickly other than the back button which only shows up 
under certain circumstances. It seems to me that more people would be talking 
about this new iOS feature if they could actually quickly swipe back and forth 
between open apps.  Confusing :)

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> Tim Cook talked about it on the presentation and showed it as an update for 
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Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Christina C.]

Maybe that’s why some can get the four finger swipe with VO to work and some 
can’t. Maybe it only works on the newest phone. Has anyone here been able to 
use the four finger swipe with older phones?
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Yes, we tried all of those methods, with no luck.
> It could also be that feature is specific to the 6S and 6S Plus, since 
> sighted users do have a way to switch between apps with 3D Touch, but that's 
> just a theory.Sent from my iPad Pro
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> 
>> did you and your roommate try a regular swipe, or swiping with two or three 
>> fingers to switch apps? My guess is that the feature is available to 
>> everyone but only requires four fingers if VoiceOVer is running.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Sighted users simply slide their finger from left to right to change the 
>>> volume.
>>> As far as the 4-finger swipe gesture, the AppleVis podcast is incorrect. I 
>>> live with a sighted roommate, and we both can confirm that gesture is only 
>>> available when VoiceOver is running.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So, here's something I've wanted to ask for quite a while. What do 
>>>> non-rotor users do to, say, adjust the value on a volume button (or 
>>>> sometimes a pop-up button), that requires rotor gestures from us?
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message- From: Christopher Chaltain
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 12:18 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Mega discovery in 9.3
>>>> 
>>>> No, I'm pretty sure the roter is a VoiceOver feature, and I believe it's
>>>> only documented in the VoiceOver section of the manual. I don't think,
>>>> when you perform the roter jesture, that anything on the screen changes,
>>>> so there'd be nothing for a non-VoiceOver user to interact with at that
>>>> point.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 24/03/16 06:00, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
>>>>> I may be wrong about this, but… Do  non voice-over users have a rotor?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sandy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 24 Mar 2016, at 00:08, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we have another feature, of using the three finger quadruple
>>>>>> tap when capturing text. On some pages there's just no other way to
>>>>>> get what you want ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In case anyone hasn't discovered this, it's useful, for example, when
>>>>>> you have to enter a code. Once you hear just the code you want, you
>>>>>> can then do this gesture and copy it into pasteboard (which I assume
>>>>>> is the same as the clipboard) and paste it where required.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps I am wrong and sighted people can do this, but perhaps not so
>>>>>> easily as we can.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No doubt, someone will enlighten me!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 23/03/2016 21:51, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi. I can confirm that this is not available to people who do not use
>>>>>>> voiceover. So yes, people who use voiceover have access to a feature
>>>>>>> that mainstream users don't.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Christina C.
>>>>>>> <<mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com>blindmaclo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this
>>>>>>>> is also available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that
>>>>>>>> anywhere on the internet. I know lots of people who would love this
>>>>>>>> feature on their iPhone who

Re: Mega discovery in 9.3

[Christina C.]

I haven’t updated yet to try the four finger swipe but I heard this is also 
available to non voice Over users. I can’t find that anywhere on the internet. 
I know lots of people who would love this feature on their iPhone who does not 
use voice over. I’d be surprised to know that voice Over users have a new cool 
feature that the mainstream does not have.

Christina
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
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> It is new and 9.3.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Robin Christopherson 
> mailto:robin.christopher...@gmail.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers
>>  
>> You’re probably all going to come back and tell me this has been in iOS 
>> forever but I’ve just discovered that, on my 6S at least, swiping left or 
>> right with four fingers switches between running apps. I know this has 
>> worked on an iPad Air 2 for a while but wasn’t aware it was available on the 
>> phone. Enjoy!
>>  
>> Thanks, Robin
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Re: 9.3 so far

[Christina C.]

Try turning pitch on and off to see if that could be causing some variation. I 
use Samantha and I have not upgraded yet, so I am keeping my fingers crossed. 
Also, are you using enhanced Samantha or the compact? I think I am using the 
compact because the enhanced sounds like a chain smoker. ha ha
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> All I am saying is that for me, on my 5s, Samantha sounds more muffled than 
> before.
> It sounds the same on my iPod Touch 6th generation.
> So, it could be my device, my case, my ears, or something else, like my 
> imagination?
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 7:33 AM, deidre muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard 
>> Do I understand that you are saying that the voice over female voice has 
>> changed? I'm particularly sensitive to readers/voices so muffled sure does 
>> not sound good to me.  
>>   Deidre
>>   -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: 9.3 so far
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> Well, the 9.3 update went much more smoothly than I expected.
>> VoiceOver seems more responsive.
>> So far, all is working well with one little exception.
>> I do not care for the sound of Samantha, either default or enhanced on my 5s.
>> She sounds more muffled than usual.
>> Where as, the Siri Male US voice seems better and more responsive than it 
>> was before.
>> I can confirm that we now can indeed leave reviews in the app store.
>> So far, I've not found any real problems.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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Re: iOS 9.3, Apple Music and iTunes Match

[Christina C.]

This may be a dumb idea but have you gone into the settings of your phone to 
see if the settings changed for match or apple music? Maybe something got 
turned off? If you can’t get it resolved, I’d definitely consider calling apple 
support.

Good Luck,
Christina
> On Mar 22, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> A few months ago, iTunes match raised  its limit to 50,000 as well. So no 
> difference there. I haven't checked since upgrading to 9.3. I also haven't 
> specifically added any Apple Music to my library. And I did that because of 
> all that mess with iTunes match last year. Good luck getting your stuff back. 
> Do you have it all on your Mac. Maybe you could re-sync with your Mac or your 
> Windows PC and that would get it back for you.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings all. I updated my iPhone 6S to iOS 9.3 last night. Last fall
>> I had signed up for iTunes Match in order to keep all my songs in a
>> digital locker in the cloud and take with me to future phones. I've
>> done several iOS updates since then without a problem. Last night
>> though, to my utter shock, nearly all of the 4,200 songs in my
>> collection, along with the around 800 songs that I have added to
>> playlists from Apple Music, had disappeared. Over the last few months,
>> I have setup several playlists for different things, like love songs,
>> worship music, Christmas music, and "all songs" which has everything
>> in my collection. It was quite a shock to see the All Songs playlist
>> go from around 4,200 songs to 139 songs, or the Hard and Heavy
>> playlist go from 330 songs to just 2 songs. I've got the 4,200 songs
>> on an external drive, but not the Apple Music that I've saved. I've
>> spent a long time tediously deleting what I don't want from my
>> collection and don't look forward to doing it all over again. Short of
>> doing a complete restore, does anyone have any ideas how I can get my
>> music back from iTunes Match? I'm not sure if this is specific to
>> iTunes Match or Apple Music since I subscribe to both. Whatever the
>> case, it is extremely frustrating and makes me wonder if iTunes Match
>> is worth the time, especially if the songs are going to suddenly
>> disappear after 5 or 6 months.
>> 
>> On a related note, does anyone use Google Play Music and if so how do
>> you like it? What do you like and not like about Play Music? It looks
>> similar to the Apple offerings, except that with Play Music, you can
>> store up to 50,000 songs for free. That alone is tempting.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Wayne
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Re: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?

[Christina C.]

So, does the edge just sit in your ear canal like an ear bud. I’m trying to 
imagine it. What prevents it from falling out. I can’t use ear buds because 
they constantly pop out or hurt my ears.

Thanks for any details. I’d really love to find a great ear peace

Christina
> On Mar 21, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Cristóbal  wrote:
> 
> I tried both and returned the legend and kept the Edge.
> The Legend felt way  bulky and a hassle to quickly put on. It  was like 
> having a small transformer plastered on the side of my face. That and  the 
> magnetic charging felt gimmicky.
> Since the  Edge reverted to the traditional charging cable, I guess I wasn't 
> the  only one who had the same impression about the magnetic charging design.
> I prefer the sound  quality  on the Edge too. More a subjective aspect, but 
> to me at least, the  Legend sounded more muffled. Especially with distortion 
> at higher volume levels. 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Buying a replacement Plantronics Voyager Legend or getting an Edge?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Looking for advice inview of my several year old Plantronics Voyager Legend 
> ending it's lifespan.
> 
> Wondering if I should get a replacement Voyager Legend or move on to a 
> Plantronics Edge. Anyone who has tried both have advice? I have enjoyed the 
> Legend.
> 
> Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: Voice Dream Reader delayed in coming to the app store, but that is good news

[Christina C.]

I’ve seen apps where there is a way to “leave a tip” or make a donation through 
an in app purchase. I wonder if Winston is going to do that? Does apple have 
some rule that did not allow Winston to charge for the feature upgrade? I think 
schools use VDR and had some issues with purchasing voices through in app 
purchases. I think that is why he developed the voice pack app. Maybe that is 
why he changed his mind?  I’m just surprised that the feature will be free. I’m 
sure it was not a simple task of adding the iCloud support. I love VDR and 
couldn’t do without it.

Christina

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Re: about voice dream reader

[Christina C.]

Auto Loader? I think that sounds pretty amazing. Will this iCloud also serve as 
a backup? I don’t understand iCloud that well. :) I always thought it would be 
great to have iCloud sync but never expected it to happen and certainly not 
this soon. It sounds like the developer put a lot of thought into it since he 
added the auto loader feature. That is just fantastic. I will definitely take 
advantage of that feature. :)

Christina 
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> @Christina; Yes, it would be a one time purchase only.
> @Devin; This is why it is optional. If you don't have multiple iDevices, 
> you're not going to purchase it.
> I agree with Richard, this is awesome feature and this is what VDR has been 
> missing since day one it went out. Besides syncing books, bookmarks, reading 
> position etc iCloud Sync will support one more thing and that is Auto Loader. 
> Maybe someone doesn't have multiple devices to sync but there's a new and 
> nice way to load books without iTunes or other cloud storage. After you 
> activate the iCloud support you'll find a folder named Loader in your iCloud 
> Drive. You can fill it with books on your PC or Mac and books and documents 
> from that folder will automatically be synced to your Voice Dream Reader 
> Library on the iOS device.
> 
> 
> S poštovanjem
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>> Will that be a one time fee or a subscription?
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
> 
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Re: Frotz

[Christina C.]

Ok, thanks :) but once I find the game through the browser in Frotz, how do I 
get the game onto my device? I didn’t find a download button. Thanks for all of 
the game suggestions. That helps a lot. Also, you mentioned trying the games 
already provided in Frotz, are those aimed at adults? I don’t want any shockers 
with the kids. :)

Thanks,
Christina
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Michael Feir  wrote:
> 
> Hello Christina. You have a few ways of going about adding games to
> Frotz. There are literally hundreds of games available. A Bear's Night
> Out is a great one to play with children. Some other personal
> favorites which are clean but written for teens and adults are Jigsaw,
> Curses, haunted Theater and Sofar. To find these games, you want to
> use the browse ifdb button which lets you get games from the
> Interactive Fiction database. If you know the name of a game, use the
> first search edit field you come to. Type in the neame and then use
> the submit botton. Hope that gets you started. There are many ways to
> search and brows the database and it's constantly being added to.
> 
> Frotz can also run the Infocom games but you'll have to obtain those
> somethwre other than the database. They're still considered commercial
> software and are unavailable for free download. I have a CD call the
> Masterpieces of Infocom which you may be able to track down on Ebay or
> something. You could then do what I did and transfer the games to
> Frotz's story list with its built-in file server. There are
> instructions in the help included in Frotz. Best of luck with this
> Christine. I hope that helps get you started. Be shure to try the
> games already included with the Frotz app.
> 
> On 3/9/16, Christina C.  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I listened to a Cool Blind Tech podcast about playing a game called Dragon
>> Adventure with Frotz for iOS. Anyways, I have never done this interactive
>> Fiction text adventure games. I’d really like to try to play Dragon
>> Adventure with my kids. However, I don’t understand how to get this game
>> into Frotz.
>> 
>> I’d appreciate any help as this whole thing is brand new to me,
>> Christina
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Re: about voice dream reader

[Christina C.]

Will that be a one time fee or a subscription?

Christina

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Hello,

I listened to a Cool Blind Tech podcast about playing a game called Dragon 
Adventure with Frotz for iOS. Anyways, I have never done this interactive 
Fiction text adventure games. I’d really like to try to play Dragon Adventure 
with my kids. However, I don’t understand how to get this game into Frotz. 

I’d appreciate any help as this whole thing is brand new to me,
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Re: about voice dream reader

[Christina C.]

Wait, did you say iCloud sync support. That would be awesome! Does that mean 
our bookmarks, and reading progress, and library will sync across devices? 
That’d be great, I think. :)

Christina
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 2:17 AM, Gordan Radić  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> First it was scheduled for March 10 but soon after the announcement, 
> developer prolonged it to be scheduled on March 21 hopefuly. He is planning 
> to submit it to Apple in the next couple of days. How much time will take 
> Apple to aproove it is speculating but we all hope the release will be as 
> announced.
> From what I know, we will have the Alex voice in the new version but I'm not 
> sure about the Siri voices. They are not mentioned in the What's new file.
> To make it straight, version 4.0 doesn't offer much to the blind community. 
> There are lots of improovements but it is all aimed at the dislexic and 
> partially sighted people. Besides few new voices and some new reading 
> settings pplus iCloud Sync support we're mostly right where we been in the 
> 3.x versions.
> 
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> 9.3.2016. u 0:22, Leo Bado je napisao/la:
>> Hi everybody, 
>> 
>> does anyone know when the new voice dream reader update will come? 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: KNFBReader Question?

[Christina C.]

there is also a way to put your file in voice dream reader, through the file 
explorer. Put it in edit mode, select the file you want, select share, select 
the file type, then select open with, then select copy to voice Dream Reader. I 
am going off of memory here and I have only done it once. So, I can’t remember 
what comes next. I think you have to open Voice Dream Reader. I can’t remember 
if you have to hit the add button and then I think you choose clip board. 
However, I could be totally wrong about this part. I can’t remember if Voice 
Dream automatically opens and detects the file or what. I just honestly cannot 
remember. I don’t have something to scan and put into voice Dream Reader right 
now so I can get you proper directions.

Good Luck,
Christina 

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latest version of any list

[Christina C.]

I noticed that any list has a major update. Usually when I see this I am 
hesitant to update because sometimes accessibility is accidentally broken. I 
have heard that the developers of any list seem committed to accessibility. 
However, just wanted to see if anyone has been using the latest version of the 
any list app without any major problems before I update. I love this app and 
use it a lot and pay for the extra features so that I can support the app.

Thanks so much,
Christina

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Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding VoiceOver Accessibility

[Christina C.]

I would make sure the school is doing everything they can to help. Also, try 
contacting as many people in the company because the person responding to you 
may not be the right person. Who knows, maybe someone on the development team 
might feel compelled to investigate making their app more accessible. Apple has 
not left developers in the dark when it comes to accessibility. I don’t know 
how large or small the company is but the person responding to you is giving 
you very generic answers without any real help as if they don’t actually have 
much of a say or understanding. I could be wrong though :) It’s just a guess 
based on my perceptions.

Good luck,
Christina

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Re: Readable PDF Files was RE: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding VoiceOver Accessibility

[Christina C.]

May I suggest that you contact the person in charge of where and how the school 
newsletter is posted? It’s important that this person knwo and understand that 
the platform they are using is not accessible. This person can also contact the 
developer or make sure to find a more accessible platform for the school 
newsletter


> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
> 
> It is accurate to suggest that image rendered PDF files are not accessible 
> via screen readers and it it is likewise true that an appropriately formatted 
> PDF file will be accessible via screen readers.  But this is certainly not 
> the final word.  Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software is available 
> for both Mac and Windows computers that can be configured to open those 
> dreadful image rendered PDF files and convert those pictures into ASCII text 
> formatted files.  ABBY Fine Reader comes immediately to mind - chiefly 
> because that is the software I’m currently using!
> * * * * * * * * *
> Bill Gallik
> wfgal...@icloud.com 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Alan Lemly > > wrote:
>> 
>> Alan,
>>  
>> I'd like to correct your statement that "PDF is actually a picture of the 
>> document and no screen reader can read a picture to you." While it's true 
>> that screen readers can't read images or pictures, PDF files can most 
>> certainly be saved in either an editable or searchable format so that their 
>> text is preserved and readable by a screen reader. Not all PDF files are 
>> images but it is up to the creator of them to decide whether they contain 
>> text that can be read or searched electronically.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 10:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding 
>> VoiceOver Accessibility
>>  
>> I went through this with iPhone Life.  They were very nice folks who took 
>> the time to explain to me that the reason why they use PDF is so the 
>> magazine in PDF format looks exactly like the print magazine.  PDF is 
>> actually a picture of the document and no screen reader can read a picture 
>> to you.
>>  
>> HTH
>>  
>> 
>> Alan
>>  
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Christine Grassman > > wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Dear All:
>>>  
>>> Issuu is an app which provides access to millions of magazines, 
>>> newsletters, etc., on virtually any topic you can think of.  My son, who is 
>>> also a VoiceOver user, wanted to access his high school’s newspaper which 
>>> is on the platform. However, it is in an image pdf.  Furthermore, trying to 
>>> get around the app is nightmarish, and it does not appear that any of the 
>>> available resources is accessible. 
>>> I wrote to their support center, and this is the response I received.  My 
>>> response to that unhelpful response is first, with the response in the 
>>> middle, with my original message at the bottom. I think this is absolutely 
>>> something which should be available to those who use screen readers. If 
>>> others agree, I think we should bombard them with requests to make their 
>>> platform accessible. 
>>> Christine 
>>>   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>  
>>> From: "Christine Grassman (issuu Support Team)" >> >
>>> Subject: Update from issuu Support Re: Poor VoiceOver accessibility
>>> Date: February 19, 2016 at 10:16:27 AM EST
>>> To: Christine Grassman >> >
>>> Reply-To: issuu Support Team >> >
>>>  
>>> ## Please do not write below this line ##
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Christine Grassman
>>> Feb 19, 16:16 
>>> 
>>> With all due respect, there is no excuse for this. Apple makes available to 
>>> developers, free of charge, guidelines for making apps accessible. There's 
>>> absolutely no reason not to do this.
>>> Christine
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Angel (Help Center)
>>> Feb 19, 11:51 
>>> 
>>> Hi Christine,
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments to use 
>>> screen reading technology or have a way to make our site accessible at this 
>>> time. We also haven't been informed of any plans to add that functionality 
>>> any time soon. I'm so very sorry about that.
>>> 
>>> If we do introduce this functionality at any point, we will put up an 
>>> announcement on our blog (blog.issuu.com ) and on 
>>> our help center (help.issuu.com ), so please do 
>>> keep checking these places for updates.
>>> 
>>> Please don't hesitate to write back if you have any other questions, and 
>>> we'd be happy to assist you.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> A

Re: apple music and family sharing

[Christina C.]

You can share playlists with each other though. It’s kind of cool. My kids can 
share a playlist they created in apple music with me, I add it to my library. 
Then I can listen to the playlist but I can’t make changes. If my kids change 
their playlist then it is automatically updated in my apple music as well. At 
least, that’s how it has worked for us so far. :)

Christina
> On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:48 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
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> Hi let's get one thing straight. With family sharing, you "can" share each 
> other's purchases. You "cannot" share each other's music library.
>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 17:57, don bishop  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> My wife and I both have apple music and also family sharing. 
>> My question: how can we share each others apple music and also music 
>> purchases from the itunes store. I'm sure there's a way. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Don
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Re: Problems with Fleksy number/symbols layout

[Christina C.]

I second that. :) Maybe if more of us blind people are using Fleksy we might be 
able to contribute more helpful tips, suggestions, and requests that the Fleksy 
team might find useful to help make the app even better in the future.

Christina
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:30 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Wow, Alan! Thanks for all the time and detail you are putting in to helping 
> the community get to use the Fleksy keyboard! Much appreciated! Harry
> 
>> On 20 Jan 2016, at 22:27, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Christina,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, those of us who learned the original Fleksy app later renamed
>> Fleksy VO have to adjust our thinking somewhat to get comfortable with the
>> Fleksy Keyboard. I think you should keep trying because I'm becoming more
>> convinced that we can be productive with this keyboard.
>> 
>> I'll address each of your issues in a numbered list.
>> 
>> 1. If you're typing with the Fleksy spacebar keyboard, the button at the
>> bottom leftmost position is the numbers button labeled with a 123 and
>> touching it once will switch the keyboard from letters to numbers and back
>> again. When numbers are displayed, this key becomes a letters keyboard key
>> labeled ABC. While numbers are still displayed, pressing the shift key which
>> is immediately above the numbers/letters button will open the symbols
>> keyboard. I think this behavior is the same as with the iOS standard
>> keyboard.
>> 
>> 2. The minimal Fleksy keyboard has a shift button at the bottom leftmost
>> position and a backspace button at the bottom rightmost position and these
>> keys were not present in the original Fleksy app. Note that Fleksy/VO
>> sometimes doesn't announce the backspace key as you move slowly around the
>> keyboard doing manual input but will simply state the key erased when the
>> backspace is executed. I also inadvertently hit both the shift and backspace
>> keys when typing with the minimal Fleksy keyboard and think it's just going
>> to take additional practice to unlearn how we typed with the original Fleksy
>> in order to get good with this new one.
>> 
>> 3. When using the minimal keyboard, a quick single finger swipe right on the
>> shift key in the bottom leftmost position should switch between the letters
>> and numbers keyboards. When in the numbers keyboard, a quick single finger
>> swipe down should switch between the numbers and symbols keyboards.
>> Sometimes the keyboard loaded is inconsistent so you might have to keep
>> swiping right until you get to the one you want. Fleksy/VO has been
>> consistently identifying the loaded keyboard for me although sometimes it
>> doesn't immediately switch back to letters from numbers. Another point is if
>> you do a quick single finger swipe left on the backspace key located at the
>> bottom rightmost position of the minimal keyboard, your Emoji keyboard
>> should open. If it does, the bottom leftmost key on it should return you to
>> the letters keyboard when you double tap it. Also note that the input of
>> emoji symbols works a bit differently with the Fleksy keyboard than with the
>> standard iOS keyboard using touch typing. With Fleksy, you can swipe around
>> on the various emoji keys and lift to hear them announced without their
>> actually being entered. It takes a single finger double tap to record the
>> emoji which has focus or a split tap to do so. I actually like this behavior
>> better than how the iOS keyboard does it.
>> 
>> 4. You've identified another one of the Fleksy keyboard bugs or VoiceOver
>> inconsistencies as I call them. When doing manual input slowly one letter at
>> a time as we often do with a new word or a proper name, the Fleksy keyboard
>> more times than not will announce it as a capital letter regardless if you
>> have your settings to identify case correctly as it sounds like you do. The
>> good news is that Fleksy is entering the correct case even if it is
>> announcing it incorrectly and we're just going too have to get used to this
>> anomaly. Fleksy also consistently capitalizes the first letter of a word in
>> a new sentence provided this setting is turned on.
>> 
>> 5. Fleksy should get better at guessing your words the more you use it and I
>> also urge you to often add the words not identified correctly to your Fleksy
>> dictionary via a single finger swipe up after input. The more complete your
>> Fleksy dictionary, the better it will be at guessing the correct word.
>> 
>> 6. If you've turned off the setting to show accented versions of all
>> letters, this sh

Re: Life line a great text based game in real-time

[Christina C.]

So, just to confirm, does it work great with voice over?

Thanks,
Christina

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 4:03 AM, RACHEL & DAMIEN  
> wrote:
> 
> hi i tried the game yesterday and liked it so much i bought the other 
> lifeline games too.  i think there are three altogether.
>> On 16 Jan 2016, at 06:05, Ioana Gandrabur  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not active much on the list lately so maybe this is old news for some of 
>> you but I thought I'd share a great game named app of the week by apple this 
>> week and thus free. 
>> 
>> It is a great text-based game totally accessible. The twist is that it 
>> happens in real time. You give a stranded person on other planet guidance to 
>> stay alive. But if you send him out on a trip that takes him 1h you'll not 
>> hear from him till 1h later. You can work it from notification center or 
>> even on apple watch although I have no idea if this works well with vo 
>> there. 
>> 
>> Here's the link:
>> Lifeline... by 3 Minute Games, LLC
>> https://appsto.re/ca/CWyJ6.i
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>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Ioana
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Fleksy, returning to letter keyboard

[Christina C.]

Oh, good to know. Strangely, I don’t know if I encountered this dialogue and my 
return to letters seems to work. Maybe it will show up here some day and I’ll 
know what is going on. :)

Christina
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 10:21 AM, Krister Ekstrom  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> That is, as i mentioned in an earlier thread a dialog that has popped up 
> advising you to the possibility of changing the colors of emoji. Before you 
> can do anything further with the emoji keyboard you must dismiss this dialog 
> by pressing its ok button. It can be tricky to find, but once you hear 
> something about you being able to change the tone of your emojis you can 
> start flicking right. The first things you encounter are examples of how the 
> emoji will look with different skin tones then comes the ok button. Double 
> tap on it and you should then be good to go.
> Hope that helps.
> /Krister
> 
>> 21 jan. 2016 kl. 17:32 skrev Traci Duncan :
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> First of all, I was trying to figure out how to insert a new line.  I am 
>> using the large size keyboard with the spacebar showing.  I found, what I 
>> believe is a return key in the lower right, but this also seems to bring me 
>> to the emoji keyboard.  This is a bit annoying, but not a big deal.  The 
>> problem is, the key in the lower left that says return to letters, I cannot 
>> activate.  I have tried double tapping, triple tapping, I tried placing my 
>> finger on it & lifting up…  Any suggestions?  :)
>> 
>> I will say, I am having much better success with the keyboard this time 
>> around.  Now, I just need to build up that dictionary & give Fleksy a chance 
>> to know my typing preferences.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Traci
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Re: Fleksy, returning to letter keyboard

[Christina C.]

I’m glad you are having better success this time. I can get around better this 
time but I still can’t type out a complete sentence. LOL! I keep having to 
delete and then I delete and 30 minutes later, I give up and use dictation.

Anyways, My key to switch from Emoji back to letters works. The only thing I 
can think of is to clear your app switcher and turn your phone off for a bit 
and then restart it. Alternatively you could try turning voice over off and 
then back on again to see if the button will work. BTW, I also, keep activating 
the emoji keyboard with the return key. I thought it was supposed to be some 
kind of swipe but it does not seem to matter, the slightest touch seems to 
switch me over to emoji. Alternatively, when I try to use the shift key in 
minimal mode to switch to numbers/symbols I can’t seem to make it happen by 
swiping on shift key. ha ha, I just can’t consistently make the switch from 
letters to numbers and back again with the shift key while in minimal keyboard. 
I haven’t given up yet though. If I had never used the original stand alone 
Fleksy keyboard and had such a superb experience I would have given up a long 
time ago.

Christina
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> First of all, I was trying to figure out how to insert a new line.  I am 
> using the large size keyboard with the spacebar showing.  I found, what I 
> believe is a return key in the lower right, but this also seems to bring me 
> to the emoji keyboard.  This is a bit annoying, but not a big deal.  The 
> problem is, the key in the lower left that says return to letters, I cannot 
> activate.  I have tried double tapping, triple tapping, I tried placing my 
> finger on it & lifting up…  Any suggestions?  :)
> 
> I will say, I am having much better success with the keyboard this time 
> around.  Now, I just need to build up that dictionary & give Fleksy a chance 
> to know my typing preferences.
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Problems with Fleksy number/symbols layout

[Christina C.]

Hi,

I am having all kinds of problems with the Fleksy third party keyboard app. I 
really don’t know why I am bothering. I guess it’s because I loved loved loved 
the stand alone Fleksy keyboard and I so badly want to experience that same 
ease of typing.

When I am trying to touch type in Fleksy, I keep engaging the numbers and 
symbols layout. This is highly frustrating because I keep doing it even in 
minimal mode layout and I don’t even know how I am making it happen. Then I 
can’t figure out how to get back to the letter layout. Also, voice Over 
announces each letter that I type as a capital letter no matter what. It’s 
frustrating because I can’t figure out if I accidentally hit the shift button 
or not. I keep having to check and see if shift is selected or not. I also made 
sure that in settings the keyboard will reflect uppercase and lowercase 
letters. Also, how do I avoid hitting the shift or delete key. The shift key 
was never a factor with the stand alone fleksy keyboard.  I still cannot type 
one complete sentence in a reasonable amount of time. I am significantly slower 
on the Fleksy keyboard than on the native iOS keyboard. Fleksy rarely guesses 
my words correctly so I must be way way off. Fleksy was 90% accurate at 
guessing what I wanted to type in the Fleksy  stand alone app. Also, when I try 
to feel my way around the keyboard and lift my finger off of the screen to type 
a letter I get the letters with accents even though I have this turned off in 
the settings.

Christina 

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