Re: filling in passwords from iCloud on Windows?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,A slight correction. The accessibility phone number is area code 877204–3930. I know how numbers can get reversed. Have a good one.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 18, 2024, at 9:29 AM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Call Apple Accessibility: 877-204-3039  Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ... SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raised My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan MannSent: Wednesday, September 18, 2024 7:24 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: filling in passwords from iCloud on Windows? I have iOS 18 with the passwords app.  I installed the iCloud passwords extension in Google Chrome on a Windows 11 computer and I set Control Shift p as a shortcut to activate the extension.  When I go into Chrome and activate the extension, it asks for a verification code.  I do not get this code on my iPhone or in email.  How do I get this code?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01c201db09d6%246bc27900%2443476b00%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: MLB Not Playing

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Hi Mike,I’m having the exact same problem here. It seems like they had a terrible crash. Is this has been the case for a few days as you point out.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 26, 2024, at 8:57 PM, Mike B.  wrote:






Hi All,
 
Running iOS17.5.1 on my SE2022 
iPhone.  Is anyone having any problems with playing games through your 
Amazon devices from your iPhones?  I've been getting a message over the 
last few days that there's not a live Dodger game playing right now, then A'Lady 
proceeds to tell me to tune in at 8:10 pm eastern time.  Well it's well 
after 8:10 pm eastern time and I get the same message, and have been getting 
this message for the last few days!  The MLB app is linked to the devices, 
but it just isn't streaming the game to the devices.  I can play it on my 
iPhone, but I want it streamed to a particular device else where in the 
house.
 
Anyone have any thoughts or 
ideas on what I can do with the MLB app or with my iPhone to get them 
streaming to my devices again?  All input is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks much.
Take care.  
Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go 
Dodgers!



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Re: oticon device to connect to bluetooth

[Les Kriegler]

For anyone who might be interested, you can also purchase a TV adapter for the 
Oticon hearing aids. In my opinion, it’s been a game changer for me. I 
connected via Bluetooth and I can use it as well activating it right from my 
hearing aids. I would encourage anyone interested to check with your 
audiologist who can arrange Nally to get you the TV adapter, but set it up for 
you.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> We have oticon hearing aids streaming from the iPhone into the ear.  Is 
> there a device that would stream from a bluetooth transmitter such as a 
> victor Stream?
> 
> Thx,
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Re: 17.1 just made iOS worse

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Carolyn,

I also have Bluetooth hearing aids, and when I am using them, I am getting the 
sound rather than the haptic feedback when I initiate Siri. Very interesting. I 
imagine that is the way it is supposed to work.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2023, at 1:54 PM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have Bluetooth in my hearing aids, which is probably the reason why I got 
> a sound for Siri. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: 17.1 just made iOS worse
> 
> 
> I just played with this a little and I learned something.
> 
> If I am using the phone speaker, then it does the haptic vibrations instead 
> of the sound when pressing the button for Siri.  But if I am wearing my 
> Airpods, then I do hear the sound.
> 
> So the sound is still there, but it is turned off for some reason when using 
> the phone speaker.
> 
> I do think Siri just has hiccups from time to time.  I experienced this no 
> matter what version of iOS I was running.
> 
> For best results, wait 2 to 3 seconds after pressing the side button before 
> issuing the command.
> 
> I just asked Siri to open 5 or 6 different apps back to back, and she did 
> them all perfectly.  And one of those was mail, of which I opened multiple 
> times.
> 
> One tip:
> You can train Siri to listen and understand you better.
> Go to Settings, Siri and Search.
> Even though I previously had this set to on, when updating to iOS 17.1, it 
> turned off the listen for Siri.
> Just tap on Siri, hey siri, or both siri and hey siri to turn it on and do 
> the practice speaking.
> After hitting the continue button, it will give you 5 short siri commands.  
> It will read the command to you, then you are to repeat them.  Once done, you 
> are all set.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris Chaffin
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On Oct 27, 2023, at 11:17 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>I just said “Siri, open mail” and it opened mail, three times in a row 
> successfully.
> 
> 
> 
>I don’t know why they thought it was a good idea to remove the sound when 
> holding in the side button, but that is one that writing 
> accessibil...@apple.com   and providing 
> feedback through www.apple.com/feedback   is a 
> good idea.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>Richard, USA.
> 
>“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> 
> 
>My web site: https://www.turner42.com  
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Steve Matzura
>Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 7:46 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: 17.1 just made iOS worse
> 
> 
> 
>I've been waiting for 17.1 to come out to hopefully fix bugs I'd heard 
> about and preferred not to experience. So imagine the look on my face when 
> after upgrading from 16.7.2 to 17.1 I said "Siri, open mail," and was 
> answered with "which one, phone or mail?". Rather surprised, I answered 
> "mail," and was immediately told something went wrong, please try again 
> later. Well, later hasn't come yet, because if I tell it to open mail, I get 
> the same thing.
> 
> 
> 
>Also, I discovered that instead of playing a sound when I press and hold 
> the side button on my 14 Pro Max, I get the double-buzz like you would get if 
> VoiceOver weren't running. Haven't yet found a way to reverse this one.
> 
> 
> 
>But seriously, opening mail fails? Gimmy back my 16.7.2.
> 
> 
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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Chris,

Sorry to hear this. Have you checked for any system updates? For the gentleman 
who asked about the operating system, I am using TVOS 17.0 21J 354.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 4:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi. I just tried it with the Arteck Bluetooth keyboard and it still isn’t 
working. If I hold alt and control I can navigate across with the arrow keys 
but I can’t move up and down. I don’t have a Logitech keyboard to try. I’ll try 
my apple magic keyboard later.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 9:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Chris and All,

The issue with using the keyboard with one’s Apple TV has been fixed. The arrow 
keys by themselves can now be used. Thus far, I have tested with the Logitech 
K380, but I suspect other keyboards should now work.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Yes I did try the apple magic keyboard as well with the same results.

 

Chris Judge

 



 

 



 

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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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RE: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Chris,

I have had numerous conversations with Logitech Tech Support and Apple. 
Logitech does not support TVOS latest version. Whether they will is an open 
question. Apple doesn’t even support this OS on their own keyboards which makes 
no sense to me. I will be writing Apple Accessibility about this and encourage 
you and others to do the same. I was shocked that Apple’s keyboard won’t work 
with their own product.

Best,

 

Les

 

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chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I’m having the same issue ever since updating to the latest TV OS. I sure hope 
someone has a solution because it’s driving me batty. 

 

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Cc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

 

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about two 
years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that keyboard no 
longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key either does 
nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since my keyboard was 
out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know many use on this 
list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are present on that 
keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an app. Logitech says 
it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody successfully using am Apple 
TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?  If anyone can suggest another 
compatible keyboard, that would be appreciated.

Best,

 

Les

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Logitech Keyboard and Apple TV 4th Generation

[Les Kriegler]

Hi All,

I have been using a Logitech K380 with my Apple TV 4th Generation for about
two years. After going away for a couple weeks, when returning, that
keyboard no longer works. The arrows yield no response and the Return key
either does nothing or launches a different app that I am focused on. Since
my keyboard was out of warranty, I decided to purchase the K780 which I know
many use on this list. The same problems with unresponsive arrow keys are
present on that keyboard. On my iPhone, the return key does not activate an
app. Logitech says it is something Apple software modified. Is anybody
successfully using am Apple TV 4th Generation with either the K380 or K780?
If anyone can suggest another compatible keyboard, that would be
appreciated.

Best,

 

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RE: My iPhone starts playing music when the screen is locked and I’m not even in the same room, why?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,
On occasion, that has happened here, but it's very rare. When it does, I stop 
playback and all is well. It's currently not a regular occurrence, perhaps a 
few times per year, so I have not explored the matter further. Be well.
Best,

Les

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Subject: My iPhone starts playing music when the screen is locked and I’m not 
even in the same room, why?

I guess my subject line says it all. This is happened to me on several 
occasions. I can’t have been playing a song, but close the music app and gone 
on to other things. It can happen when my phone is in one room and I am in 
another room and then I come back, and I hear music playing on my phone. It 
happens in no discernible pattern that I can figure out, but it has happened 
often enough where I know it can’t possibly be a fluke. It never used to 
happen. I can’t say exactly when it started, certainly sometime in the latest 
iOS cycle, 16. But it’s only been in the last few months. Has anybody had this 
happen and if so, what did you do to fix it?
Mary


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Re: weird issue with capitalone 365 and voiceover

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When I have run into problems, like this with Bank of America, I find that the best way to resolve. It is to get one of their technical people on the line and demonstrate the problem step-by-step to them. When I did encounter issues with Bank of America, that is what works best. You can tell someone about it, but it’s not the same as showing them via the steps you outlined. Good luck with this.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 24, 2023, at 7:24 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:All:I have an iPhone 13 Pro max running iOS 16.3.1.Capitalone Mobile app version 5.109.1.Issue is with Voiceover running, I cannot transfer money to and from an external account to any of my Capitalone accounts. If voiceover is off, a sighted person can select the external account and it works fine. Web site works fine. I’ve uninstalled and reinstalled the app. Tried screen recognition, etc.Repro steps:Log in to Capitalone mobile app. Double tap an account from the list. Double tap transfer.On from account, double tap the external account at the end of the list under heading external accounts.When you are returned to the screen notice it chose the last account in the capitalone list.  



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Re: Does any one know if the official nhl app is accessible withvoice over

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I just took a look at it as I don’t use it that often. The tabs at the bottom 
right are certainly accessible. In activating them, I think you will be able to 
use the app. I receive notifications from the app regarding the Sabres is that 
as my team. I can, take a look at it, I think it will work for you.

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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

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What I was hearing was on muted when I move the volume switches. A strange one to be sure.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 28, 2023, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese  wrote:  I’m using a 14 Pro with the latest iOS 16 version and I am not experiencing this. VoiceOver says, muted, Or, unmuted, when I move the mute switch to either position.
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Re: Mute Switch Always Says "Unmuted"

[Les Kriegler]

Steve, it is not just you. I had the same thing happened last week. It turned 
out and I don’t know if it’s related, but voiceover eventually stop working all 
together and that create another problems for me. But I can confirm your 
comment about moving that switch in hearing I muted all of the time. I have no 
idea why that stopped happening. I want up having to reset my settings and that 
message for now at least has gone away.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 11:15 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Steve, 
> 
> That is most interesting and you should probably investigate why this is 
> happening just for you. It seems unlikely that all three of the devices you 
> mentioned have hardware issues so it must be something with their settings. 
> As others have reported, VoiceOver speaks muted and unmuted correctly on my 
> iPhone 13 Mini when the switch is activated or deactivated. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:37 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
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>> I found this most interesting. I think it started in iOS 16, but maybe not. 
>> If I move the switch on the side of the phone, either way VoiceOver says 
>> "unmuted." It does this on n XS, a 12 Pro Max and a 14 Pro Max. However, 
>> even though VO says "unmuted" for both positions, the phone sounds are 
>> definitely muted when the switched is moved to the back of the phone, and 
>> restored when moved to the front. Anyone else ever notice this?
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RE: Apple Crash Detection

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I hope I never have to find out how well crash detection works.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 3:26 PM
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Subject: Apple Crash Detection

 

Sounds like Apple has to do a bit more work on their iPhone 14 crash detection 
feature:

Apple Crash Detection Sends 71 False Calls to an Emergency Dispatch—in One 
Weekend • iPhone in Canada Blog 

 

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RE: Siri command to reboot or shut down iPhone

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Sieghard,

I am running IOS 16.2 on in iPhone 14 Pro. Both commands are working fine here.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Hi,

 

Could people who have iOS 16.2 or earlier check if they can still successfully 
ask Siri to restart or shut down their device?

I am on iOS 16.3 public beta and this seems to have stopped working which is 
too bad because it was a handy command.

 

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RE: Apple Watch Question

[Les Kriegler]

It seems to be app specific. I tried it from the Home Screen and nothing 
happened, no audio message.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

I have no idea.

 

I was told that the Magic Tap is the Magic Tap, is the Magic Tap on all Apple 
devices.

 

Obviously, I should try everything out first.

That does nothing.

So, the question returns, who told whom to do a Magic Tap to get audio feedback 
and on which watch?

 

 

 

 

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Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

Hi Richard. Is this new for the series 8 watches? I have a series 7 and it does 
nothing here at all. Curious.

 

 

 

 

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Subject: RE: Apple Watch Question

 

It is the same as on the phone, two finger double tap.

 

 

 

 

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Hi All,

I was taking my heart rate with the ECG app. I was asked to perform a Magic tap 
to activate live audio. How does one perform a magic tap on the watch? Thanks.

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RE: Apple Watch Question

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

On occasion, I have encountered the same issue. While holding the crown, 
nothing seems to happen: other times, it works as it should. I have version 9 
of the Watch Software. This is on a Series 8 model.

Les

 

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 2:37 PM
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Thanks,

That helps.  IN that exact situation, the two finger double tap does indeed say 
live audio on or off… however, I’m getting nothing from the ECG app no matter 
how long I hold my finger on the crown.

 

No big deal, but I may call Apple to see if something is wrong with my Series 6.

 

It is good to know though, that Magic Tap, truly means, Magic Tap on all 
devices.

 

 

 

 

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Chaffin
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I think it is more a feature of the OS, not the version of watch.  I have a 
series 6 running OS 9.2 and it works for me.

 

After starting the ECG app, touch near the bottom of the screen.

It will first say, hold your finger on the crown, pause for a second, then say, 
magic tap for live audio.

On that screen, if you do the magic tap, it will either say live audio on, or 
live audio off.  The magic tap is a toggle.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Chris

 

 

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Hi Richard. Is this new for the series 8 watches? I have a series 7 and it does 
nothing here at all. Curious.

 

 

 

 

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It is the same as on the phone, two finger double tap.

 

 

 

 

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I was taking my heart rate with the ECG app. I was asked to perform a Magic tap 
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Re: Apple watch group

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Hi Marie and Kimberly,This is good information to have. I just picked up an Apple Watch Series 8. Unfortunately, my reasons were health related. I have to monitor my heart rate now and having the watch seems the best option for me. So I will check out this group and subscribe to it. Thanks for the info.Best regards,LesSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 8, 2023, at 2:34 PM, Mária Orovčíková  wrote:
  

  
  
Hello,
the subscription address is:
watchosblindusersgroup+subscr...@groups.io

Maria

On 8. 1. 2023 18:17, 'Kimberly Samco'
  via VIPhone wrote:


  Hi,

I took the plunge and got a refurbished series 7.  I’ve listened to all the videos on Apple Vis and a good many videos on YouTube but I need access to more info.  I know others asked about an Apple Watch user group but I can’t find the answers.  I sure would appreciate if someone could let me know how to find/join them.


Thanks,


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Re: Shut down, sound revisited

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Hi Ellen,

Thanks for this. I did as you suggested, and it did omit the shut down sound 
from the lock screen. My main reason in sending this message in the first place 
was to hopefully assist me Chapman, who is having the same difficulty I was. 
Hopefully, she figured this out in his getting her shut down sound work. In my 
case, I would actually prefer to shut down from the lock screen, as it’s less 
gestures to do so. In any case, I will play with this and see what kind of 
results I continue to receive. So far, so good. Thanks again for pointing this 
out.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2022, at 7:27 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Les,
> 
> Even from a locked screen, holding down the volume up button while pressing 
> the side power button will bring up the screen containing the button at the 
> top to power off your device and when executing it, I get the power off sound 
> on my iPhone 13 Mini.
> 
> Alan Lemly
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> Earlier this week, Maria Chapman reported difficulty in shutting down her 
> iPhone with version 16.1 of the operating system. This got me to do some 
> exploring. Usually, I shut down my iPhone from the lock screen. I wasn’t 
> getting the sound either. The solution is to unlock your iPhone, and go to 
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Shut down, sound revisited

[Les Kriegler]

Earlier this week, Maria Chapman reported difficulty in shutting down her 
iPhone with version 16.1 of the operating system. This got me to do some 
exploring. Usually, I shut down my iPhone from the lock screen. I wasn’t 
getting the sound either. The solution is to unlock your iPhone, and go to the 
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Re: shut down sound?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Maria,

Yes, I can confirm the issue you are experiencing. I have an iPhone 14 Pro. The 
start up sound seems to work all the time. The shut down sound seems more 
intermittent.
Best regards,
Les

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Maria Chapman  wrote:
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> Is anyone else experiencing a bug with the shut down sound not always 
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> and now it won’t.
> any ideas?
> Maria
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Re: battery health

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Hi Paula,I do recall a discussion about that a while back. I thought the number was 80%. I am actually assisting someone with this who has had her iPhone for three years. Her capacity is at 85%. I know mine was at the same level before I traded mine in for a new iPhone 14 Pro. if that number is incorrect, I’m certain somebody will jump in and provide the specific number. Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 13, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:Hi all. Some time ago there was discussion about when to replace an iphone  battery. I remember that at a certain percentage level shown in the battery health setting you should consider replacing the battery, but I can’t remember what that percentage is. Could someone please refresh my memory. Thanks in advance.God bless!Paula and the pups



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RE: Moving Apple cash to my bank account

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Terri,
An excellent question, as I was curious about this as well. This should get you 
headed in the right direction.
Open wallet.
Swipe over until you hear Apple Cash and your balance. One finger double tap to 
activate.
Swipe right until landing on the More Button and activate that.
Swipe right again and you will hear options to add Money and Transfer to a bank 
account.
That should get you going. I will be doing this in the near future. Good luck.
Best,

Les

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Stimmel
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Subject: Moving Apple cash to my bank account

Hello everyone,


I was wondering, is it possible to move any Apple cash you have, to your bank 
account?

If so, how might I go about doing this?


My friend says it can be done. And if they go and view their cash, after their  
list of transactions, they have an option to transfer.

However, I don't have this as an option. I don't understand why.


Do I somehow have to add in my bank account?


Any help would be much appreciated. This is rather frustrating.


Thank you,


Terri

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A Quick Update

[Les Kriegler]

Hi All,

I appreciate the well-wishes we received. I am doing much better. Being
vaccinated, boosted and the anti-viral medications have made a big
difference. My wife is two days behind me, but she's also progressing. I
have every confidence we will be fine.

Best,

 

Les

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Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

I am with Verizon. I am a little suspicious of them, because they offer the 
most money if you upgrade to a different plan. So you wind up paying for that 
discount they are giving you overtime. Just read the fine print and make sure 
you know the details.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that, might be worth waiting after all. I think AT&T can give me 
> a trade up. 
> 
> I'm just so glad for Jonathan Mosen's pod cast, good thing to have, since I 
> am not able to access the Hadley iPhone videos any more. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 12:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> You might as well wait for the 14 pro. I don't think the cost is going to be 
> much different and you will get the nice new start up chime.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: September 12, 2022 10:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Yes, and since I now have seen it demonstrated on Jonathan Mosen's podcast, 
> my long-wanted iPhone 13 Mini has to go bye bye, so I can get a 13 Pro. I do 
> want to wait until after an upcoming move, maybe Cyber Monday or thereabouts, 
> but I just was really in to all of that description about doors and what 
> color things were. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 1:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Any Pro phone starting with the iPhone 12 Pro has it which means the 12 Pro, 
> 12 Pro Max, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 4:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Hi well I would like to take advantage of Lidar and door detection. And I was 
> under the impression that only the 13 max moddles and bigger have this. From 
> Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 11, 2022 4:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Just curious, why a 13 Pro Max rather than just a regular 13 Pro? I can see 
> the Pro Max being a good thing if you are doing a lot of braille input or if 
> you are out and about a lot and want absolutely the most battery life. I much 
> prefer the slightly smaller phone, it costs a couple of hundred less here in 
> Canada and if battery life is really a concern then you can get one of these 
> Anker MagGo external batteries for $50 or $60 and that would even beat the 
> battery life of a Pro max at a lot less cost..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate 
> when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will 
> try then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as 
> well. Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not 
> forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR 
> and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting 
> old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted 
> people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good 
> motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera 
> on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the 
> emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot 
> could offer some peace of mind.
> And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a 
> good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going 
> to wait for that.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hope

Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Caroline, don’t get me wrong, if somebody wishes to use my phone and they ask 
me and tell me why they want to use it, I will allow it. But I make that 
choice. I would never leave my phone sitting on a table. Too many people can 
pick it up and do things to it. We have a granddaughter and my wife’s phone 
gets picked up by her all the time and God knows what happens when she does 
that. But, I’m not gonna worry about that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, that is bullying to the nth degree, and I'd have a kinniption. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Les Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 12:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Well that stated. With all due respect, people that feel anyway they want to 
> buy face ID. But that is not in my opinion the issue here this year is Mark‘s 
> friend. I’d be furious if anybody picked up my phone and unlock it. That’s 
> over the top.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
> 
>Yes, I keep mine in direct 
> contact with my body. Also turning the screen curtain saves battery life, 
> everything still works, just the display is dark which seems to drive people 
> who can see absolutely crazy. 
> 
> 
> 
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 11:41 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> 
> 
>I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my 
> phone it’s me.
> 
>Sent from my iPhone
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale 
> mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
> 
>Wow!  What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you!  I never put in Face 
> ID, and was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, 
> I'll stick to my pass code.  However, what if someone sees me punching in the 
> numbers?  Oops!  That would be horrible if that happened.
> 
> 
> 
>I feel so badly for you.
> 
> 
> 
>Esther
> 
>Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>
>
>
> 
>On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chrisjudge1...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> 
>Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been 
> pissed as well.
>
>Chris Judge
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
>Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
>To: vipho...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> 
>Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>
>You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.
>
>Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.
>
>Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine 
> and she picked up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone 
> because she wanted to make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up 
> the phone but, thinking it was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could 
> unlock the device by simply pointing it towards me.
>
>It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  
>
>I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see 
> her pick up my phone?"  Wow!
>
>I just don't like Face ID!
>
>Mark
>
>-Original Message-
>From: vipho...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> 
>  mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
>Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
>To: vipho...@googlegroups.com <mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> 
>Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>
>I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more se

Re: NFL and iOS App

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, thanks for this review. I suspect the NFL knows they have problems. 
Why else would they be advertising as much as they do. Another company that 
bothers me is NBC. Peacock if you wanted to watch the Sunday baseball games 
they do you have to sign up for premium at 499 a month. Now they are offering 
it for less than half of that for one year. But again, as far as I’m concerned, 
who needs any of this. I do have SiriusXM and I’ve never regretted it. that was 
4.99 per month. so I don’t want anybody’s heart to go into arrhythmia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, after suggesting Screen recognition I decided to take the plunge and sign 
> up for the free trial.
>  
> First, screen recognition does give you lots of information, not necessarily 
> in a helpful format, but lots of info.
>  
> Second, even though I signed up for the $4.99 trial, I could find only TV 
> broadcasts.
>  
> And, the absolutely stupid hoops you have to jump through to try and access a 
> game is not worth using for free, let alone for any amount of money!
>  
> And, the NFL doesn’t give you access to any of the pre-game shows, just from 
> kickoff on.
>  
> SiriusXM, while more than twice as much at $11.99 a month gives you full and 
> complete access to each teams broadcasts including all their pregame shows.  
> Plus, you can access the other major sports.  My sighted wife could not even 
> find the radio broadcast on the NFL app.  What a complete waste of time.
>  
> And, the NFL must be doing more to block stations as the GameDay Pro Football 
> app is not as reliable as in the past.
>  
> So, I guess I will keep SiriusXM after the 3 month trial.  Note, SiriusXM 
> gives you three months to try it out, not just one week.  And, why the hell 
> would anyone want to pay the NFL during the off season?
>  
> Adios,
>  
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 🦅
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 4:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL and iOS App
>  
> Have you tried Screen Recognition with this app?
> I havenbbt tried the app so know nothing.
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 11, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Kelly Ford  wrote:
> 
> Here is what I had to do.
> 
> 1. Get to the list of games.
> 2. Double tap on the game I wanted.
> 3. Slide my finger to the right edge of the screen where that game was 
> located.
> 4. Lift my finger a bit but keep track of the physical location.
> 5. Turn off VoiceOver.
> 6. Touch the right edge of the screen where the game is located.
> 7. Turn back on VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> Now you will be able to read the buttons for the different broadcasts.
> 
> 
> It would appear that the NFL is using some graphic that isn't read by screen 
> readers to create the three dots that are shown visibly here to bring up 
> these buttons.  A similar issue happens on the web site but there, they did 
> add a tab stop to the unread graphic.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 2:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL and iOS App
> 
> Here's what I posted to the list earlier. I've used the NFL app in the past, 
> and I tried it again during the preseason with the seven day free trial. It's 
> doable but not very accessible.
> 
> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
> they did the season before last season. Here's what I did:
> 1.I brought up the NFL app.
> 2.I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn't 
> figure out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
> 3.In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In 
> this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
> 4.I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
> 5.Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, 
> or I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on 
> the away feed.
> 6.At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won't hear anything 
> because the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the 
> volume up button.
> 7.Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, 
> so there's no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
> 
> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
> Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn't unmute the 
> audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a 
> sighted p

Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Well that stated. With all due respect, people that feel anyway they want to 
buy face ID. But that is not in my opinion the issue here this year is Mark‘s 
friend. I’d be furious if anybody picked up my phone and unlock it. That’s over 
the top.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, I keep mine in direct 
> contact with my body. Also turning the screen curtain saves battery life, 
> everything still works, just the display is dark which seems to drive people 
> who can see absolutely crazy.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 11:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my phone 
> it’s me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you!  I never put in Face ID, 
> and was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, I'll 
> stick to my pass code.  However, what if someone sees me punching in the 
> numbers?  Oops!  That would be horrible if that happened.
>  
> I feel so badly for you.
>  
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
> 
> On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.
> 
> Chris Judge
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.
> 
> Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.
> 
> Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she 
> picked up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she 
> wanted to make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, 
> thinking it was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device 
> by simply pointing it towards me.
> 
> It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  
> 
> I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up 
> my phone?"  Wow!
> 
> I just don't like Face ID!
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
> IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out 
> of our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
> phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 
> 15sec. It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened 
> & to react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.
> 
> Donna
> 
> 
>  
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think 
> it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do 
> those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the 
> top. Try it. Put your toe in the water,

Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my phone 
it’s me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you!  I never put in Face ID, 
> and was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, I'll 
> stick to my pass code.  However, what if someone sees me punching in the 
> numbers?  Oops!  That would be horrible if that happened.
> 
> I feel so badly for you.
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>> Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>> 
>> You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.
>> 
>> Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.
>> 
>> Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she 
>> picked up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she 
>> wanted to make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone 
>> but, thinking it was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the 
>> device by simply pointing it towards me.
>> 
>> It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  
>> 
>> I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up 
>> my phone?"  Wow!
>> 
>> I just don't like Face ID!
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Donna Casteen
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>> 
>> I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
>> IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out 
>> of our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock 
>> the phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 
>> 15sec. It would take most people half this time to realize what just 
>> happened & to react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be 
>> more secure.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>>> 
>>> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
>>> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
>>> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
>>> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having 
>>> to put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a 
>>> feature without it having to be all about their blindness or their 
>>> unwillingness to learn something new.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
>>> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>>> 
>>> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
>>> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
>>> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
>>> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
>>> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they 
>>> think it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, 
>>> but so do those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down 
>>> from the top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s 
>>> not that big of a deal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
 
 Hello Dennis and Everyone,
 
 Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment.
 
 I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at 
 worst, with iPhone release this time around.
 
 I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna happen.
 
 Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat concerning as A T & T 
 Wireless has had some problems with Activating and maintaining the account 
 settings when eSim is activated.  This is according to several articles 
 I've read, recently.
 
 I just don't know, I just don't know.
 
 I have been trying to get used to FaceID via iPhone 11 but am definitely 
 going to miss Touch ID.
 
 Be that as it may, I plan to get an iPhone 14 Pro Max; not in the first 
 couple of months; figure I'll give carriers and Apple time to break in the 
 new models (smile), specifically eSIM activation but I am on the path to 
>>>

Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Well, one of the differences between the iPhone 14 Pro and the pro max is video 
playback. One reports 23 hours and the max is supposed to provide 29 hours. 
Really, I just don’t think that’s worth it. I do mostly audio, so I would 
assume that number would go up if I’m not doing that much with video playback. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Mitch,
> Good Friday is April 7, 2023.  Or did you mean Black Friday, the day after US 
> Thanksgiving for the pre-Christmas sales?  That is November 25th.  
> 
> I am with Sieghard, unless you have a good reason for the larger 
> phone/battery life, or enough vision to take advantage of the larger screen, 
> the Pro size would be more affordable and get pretty much the same 
> performance other than maybe a little less battery life; but they are talking 
> all day battery life with either pro or pro max, so the suggestion of a 
> battery pack is a good one.
> 
> I think you said you have an 8 now, so any of the 14's will be a huge 
> improvement.
> 
> 
> Richard
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
> which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 🦅
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> Just curious, why a 13 Pro Max rather than just a regular 13 Pro? I can see 
> the Pro Max being a good thing if you are doing a lot of braille input or if 
> you are out and about a lot and want absolutely the most battery life. I much 
> prefer the slightly smaller phone, it costs a couple of hundred less here in 
> Canada and if battery life is really a concern then you can get one of these 
> Anker MagGo external batteries for $50 or $60 and that would even beat the 
> battery life of a Pro max at a lot less cost..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I am going to upgrade to a I phone 13 max if I can but am also going to wate 
> when is good Friday again? Since if there is a good sale on one then I will 
> try then. I am shure that the prices of those older phones will go down as 
> well. Btw I am one of those with a 8. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not 
> forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR 
> and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting 
> old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted 
> people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good 
> motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera 
> on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the 
> emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot 
> could offer some peace of mind.
> And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a 
> good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going 
> to wait for that.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
> will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than 
> I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I 
> think a lot of people won't upgrade.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
> You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
> an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
> I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the 
> regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from 
> last year. They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now 
> has auto focus so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one 
> good reason. The emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a 
> good reason for people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
> I

Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Sieghard I have eight iPhone 12 mini and I haven’t really been happy with the 
battery life. It doesn’t meet my needs. So I think this is the only thing that 
makes sense. I like the idea of the start up chime and so often I start my 
phone and more for the night I have to start of the second time before it will 
actually start. So this should help. Anyway, thanks for the information. You 
are a funny man. I trust your judgment even if you make a mistake. By the way, 
I do think that crash detection is in the iPhone 14. Have a good one.
Best,
Les 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2022, at 4:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Les,
>  
> I believe all iPhone 14 models have crash detection, but then again, we are 
> well into the second half of 2022 and I could be wrong for the first time 
> this year 🤣
> Having said this and even if that is correct, I can totally see why you would 
> want a pro phone this time around. I can't remember what you have now, but if 
> you have an iPhone 12 or later whether Pro or not, the 14 Pro really is the 
> only thing worth upgrading to. If somebody had an iPhone 8 or older then of 
> course upgrading to a regular iPhone 14 would be a big improvement.
> Of course there is always the Apple Watch 8, they also have crash detection 
> and especially if you don't have an Apple Watch you might really enjoy the 
> experience and even if you do have one and it's not a 7th Gen, you could get 
> crash detection for a lot less money than the cost of an iPhone 14 Pro. There 
> is also the thing about what you have access to should you, hopefully never 
> the case, have a car crash. It is more likely your Apple Watch will be on 
> your wrist and accessible should you be in a position where you can talk to 
> emergency services whereas your iPhone could be tossed anywhere unless you 
> have it securely in a pocket or belt holster.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> Hi Sieghard,
> I'm glad you mentioned the crash detection feature. That was the first item 
> that really grabbed my attention. My wife still drives, but I can tell you as 
> we age, safety is of primary concern. I hope we never have to use it, but you 
> just never know. In my case, that feature alone makes the Pro worth the 
> upgrade, along with the other benefits already mentioned on this list.'
> Best,
>  
> Les
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not 
> forget there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR 
> and if they wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting 
> old then any iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted 
> people who drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good 
> motivation, then there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera 
> on the 14/14 Plus and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the 
> emergency SOS via satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot 
> could offer some peace of mind.
> And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a 
> good deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going 
> to wait for that.
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
> will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than 
> I might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I 
> think a lot of people won't upgrade.
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>  
> From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
> You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
> an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
> I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the 
> regular models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 m

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Sieghard,
I'm glad you mentioned the crash detection feature. That was the first item 
that really grabbed my attention. My wife still drives, but I can tell you as 
we age, safety is of primary concern. I hope we never have to use it, but you 
just never know. In my case, that feature alone makes the Pro worth the 
upgrade, along with the other benefits already mentioned on this list.'
Best,

Les

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

As always people will upgrade whether they have to or not. And let's not forget 
there are many who still have phones like the iPhone 8, X, XS or XR and if they 
wish to upgrade this year simply because their phones are getting old then any 
iPhone 14 whether Pro or not is still a good choice. For sighted people who 
drive even just the crash detection feature can be a good motivation, then 
there is a slightly larger battery, slightly improved camera on the 14/14 Plus 
and big time improved camera on the Pro models and the emergency SOS via 
satellite which again for users who are off the grid a lot could offer some 
peace of mind.
And anybody who doesn't think they need all that they can probably score a good 
deal on an iPhone 13 come Black Friday. I am actually most likely going to wait 
for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 
will offer touch ID somewhere on all phones if they do that and the USBC than I 
might get one but If they do little to nothing like they did this year I think 
a lot of people won't upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

>From all I read the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not have LiDAR.
You'd be hard pressed to list 3 good reasons why somebody should upgrade from 
an iPhone 13 to a 14 or even from an 11 or 12 to a 14.
I am actually quite underwhelmed with this years phones especially the regular 
models which still have the A15 chip just like the 13 models from last year. 
They say they improved the camera a bit and the front camera now has auto focus 
so I guess if you are a selfie obsessed person that may be one good reason. The 
emergency SOS via satellite is definitely a feature and a good reason for 
people who go off the grid a lot and then that is about it.
I have a regular iPhone 11 which works great and for things like doing OCR, 
recognizing currency or using other Seeing AI features I doubt you would be 
able to notice an improvement between it and the iPhone 14 or even iPhone 14 
Pro. For sighted people who love taking tons of photos and are really into good 
photography the 14 Pro definitely would be a great option, if you really want 
to take advantage of door detection and maybe other features in various apps 
which require the LiDAR sensor then you have also a very good reason for the 14 
Pro or Pro Max, but only if you don't already have a 12 Pro/Pro Max or 13 
Pro/Pro Max which already have the LiDAR sensor as well.

I had my call from Telus, my provider in Canada today and I could have upgraded 
to an iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb for $30/month over 24 months and then I would have 
to give the phone back to them or buy out that option for $560. This means that 
over 2 years I would have paid $720 and if I then wanted to keep the phone I'd 
have to buy it out for $560 so in total I would pay $1,280. I can go to the 
Apple Store and buy a new iPhone 14 Pro 128 Gb in Canada for $1,399 so I guess 
doing the deal with Telus may save me $100 or $120, but not a huge difference. 
AS for trade-in, Telus said they would give me $200 for my iPhone 11 64 Gb 
which is laughable because I know I could easily get $500 for it if I put it up 
for sale now privately.
So I will just wait and see what happens for a while, if the iPhone 14 and 14 
Pro phones aren't accepted as much as Apple may hope they are you may soon find 
stores, carriers and maybe even Apple offering extra deals and Black Friday is 
only just over 2 months off. I am of course somewhat tempted to get an iPhone 
14 Pro because I like the idea of the MagSafe charging where a slight bump or 
pull on the Earpods wouldn't dislodge the phone from its charging position on 
the wireless charging pad and you can get external batteries like that new 
Anker 622 MagGo which has 5,000 Mah capacity and it snaps onto the back of the 
phone without covering the camera opening, but I'll just wait a bit longer. 
Once the new phones are re

Re: Uber question.

[Les Kriegler]

Chaney, I’m not certain I completely understand your question. I can tell you 
that I had scheduled a ride in advance which actually occurred two days after I 
scheduled it. The price that I was charge was the price that I paid. I hope 
this makes sense.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Jenny Bomareto 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I was to schedule the ride today, on Wednesday will the price drop or 
> will it still stay the same price?
> 
> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
> Jenny Bomareto
> 
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RE: Euber help please.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Jenny,

When scheduling a ride, you can type in a note. You can also contact the driver 
by phone. Even if you can do this through your account settings, I’m not 
certain the driver will see it. I generally call the driver when he/she gets 
close. You should be receiving updates as to When your driver will arrive. Hope 
this helps.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Euber help please.

 

Hello,

 

I went into the Uber app. I went to where it said account. I went to edit. As I 
want to add a note so the Uber driver will call me upon arrival and to make 
them know I’m blind so they won’t just drive off.  Instructions please on how 
to do this.

 

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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RE: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Sieghard,
Okay, that's great to know. I will try that later today! Thanks.
Best Regards,

Les

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2022 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13

Hello Les,

Just FYI, you don't have to touch the screen at the top right to slide down for 
Control Centre or Notification Centre, touching anywhere at the top will do, 
right, middle, left, it doesn't matter.
Same goes for sliding up from the bottom to go home or bring  up the app 
switcher, you can touch the bottom centre, left or right and slide up and it 
all works.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 8:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13

Hi Cait,
Congrats on your new phone. Here are a couple more gestures which you might 
find helpful. If you start at the top right corner of the screen and slide your 
finger down, you should hear two beeps. You will hear Control Center. This is 
where you can check wi-fi and bluetooth status and the brightness of your 
screen. I keep my brightness at 0% for best battery life. Using the same 
gesture, top right corner, if you slide your finger down until you hear three 
beeps, you will hear Notification Center. Here, you can check any notifications 
you have received.. You can then slide your finger toward the top of the 
display and delete the notification you are reading. Swiping right in the 
notification center will show any notifications you have and you can act on 
each one or delete them all if you wish. Of course, you can keep any of them if 
you wish. Hope this is clear and helpful to you.
Best Regards,

Les

> On Aug 6, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Oh, sorry, yes, I did mean facial recognition.
> 
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you mean by Visual recognition?
>> 
>> Are you talking about Face ID?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 🦅
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 6:47 AM
>> To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13
>> 
>> Thanks Josua.  Between you and Richard, I am getting better at the gestures. 
>>  Now I have to go fight with facial recognition.
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:23 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cait.  What I do, is to put my wright thumb on the lightning port 
>>> down at the bottom of my phone, then slide my wright index finger up.
>>> If I stop a little way up my screen, I'll hear/feel tha first 
>>> vibration to go to home.  If I keep holding my finger on the screen, 
>>> voice over will actually say lift for home.  If I begin the gesture 
>>> and keep sliding my finger up, I'll hear the second tone that means 
>>> I'm at the app switcher.  If I keep my finger down on the screen a 
>>> few extra seconds, voice over will say lift for app switcher.  Good luck.
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/22, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>>> Thanks so much for these tips, Richard!  I've been fiddling with 
>>>> this for over an hour already with no success!  lol
>>>> 
>>>> Cait
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 3:23 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is a little tricky at first.
>>>>> You need to touch on the very, very bottom edge of the screen, and 
>>>>> do a smooth slide up the screen.
>>>>> You should hear a tone, keep sliding, you should hear another tone 
>>>>> and feel a vibration; lift your finger at that point to go to the 
>>>>> home screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do the same gesture, but slide farther beyond the second 
>>>>> tone/vibration to a third tone/vibration and lift for the app switcher.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you start hearing the normal clicking sound when VoiceOver 
>>>>> indicates you are on a blank portion of screen, or starts speaking 
>>>>> app names, you missed the beginning of the gesture and need to start over.
>&

Re: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Cait,
Congrats on your new phone. Here are a couple more gestures which you might 
find helpful. If you start at the top right corner of the screen and slide your 
finger down, you should hear two beeps. You will hear Control Center. This is 
where you can check wi-fi and bluetooth status and the brightness of your 
screen. I keep my brightness at 0% for best battery life. Using the same 
gesture, top right corner, if you slide your finger down until you hear three 
beeps, you will hear Notification Center. Here, you can check any notifications 
you have received.. You can then slide your finger toward the top of the 
display and delete the notification you are reading. Swiping right in the 
notification center will show any notifications you have and you can act on 
each one or delete them all if you wish. Of course, you can keep any of them if 
you wish. Hope this is clear and helpful to you.
Best Regards,

Les

> On Aug 6, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
> 
> Oh, sorry, yes, I did mean facial recognition.
> 
> Cait
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What do you mean by Visual recognition?
>> 
>> Are you talking about Face ID?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
>> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 🦅
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Caitlyn Furness
>> Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2022 6:47 AM
>> To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13
>> 
>> Thanks Josua.  Between you and Richard, I am getting better at the gestures. 
>>  Now I have to go fight with facial recognition.
>> 
>> Cait
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 6:23 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cait.  What I do, is to put my wright thumb on the lightning port 
>>> down at the bottom of my phone, then slide my wright index finger up.
>>> If I stop a little way up my screen, I'll hear/feel tha first 
>>> vibration to go to home.  If I keep holding my finger on the screen, 
>>> voice over will actually say lift for home.  If I begin the gesture 
>>> and keep sliding my finger up, I'll hear the second tone that means 
>>> I'm at the app switcher.  If I keep my finger down on the screen a few 
>>> extra seconds, voice over will say lift for app switcher.  Good luck.
>>> 
>>> On 8/5/22, Caitlyn Furness  wrote:
>>>> Thanks so much for these tips, Richard!  I've been fiddling with this 
>>>> for over an hour already with no success!  lol
>>>> 
>>>> Cait
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2022, at 3:23 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is a little tricky at first.
>>>>> You need to touch on the very, very bottom edge of the screen, and 
>>>>> do a smooth slide up the screen.
>>>>> You should hear a tone, keep sliding, you should hear another tone 
>>>>> and feel a vibration; lift your finger at that point to go to the 
>>>>> home screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do the same gesture, but slide farther beyond the second 
>>>>> tone/vibration to a third tone/vibration and lift for the app switcher.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you start hearing the normal clicking sound when VoiceOver 
>>>>> indicates you are on a blank portion of screen, or starts  speaking 
>>>>> app names, you missed the beginning of the gesture and need to start over.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you just want to go to the home screen, you can tell Siri, go to 
>>>>> the home screen as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom 
>>>>> of thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>> 🦅
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Caitlyn Furness
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 12:09 PM
>>>>> To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>>>>> Subject: voiceover gestures on the i phone 13
>>>>&

RE: Family calendar.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Jenny,

Did you call your Aunt to see if she received your e-mail?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2022 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Family calendar.

 

I’m trying my trying to add my aunt on the appointment. I’ll tell you what I 
have done so far I opened up for example August 1 and I went to edit and when I 
talked about add invitees I double tapped on that and typed in Aunt and then of 
course it brought up Diane but for some reason it’s only finding her email even 
when I double tap on more info. And when I email her the appointments like 
today for example

 There wasn’t anything in the sent items to tell me that she had gotten it. 
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto


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Re: Question about MLB app?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Fred,

Well, I am glad it is working better for you at least for now. I know you use 
the Apple TV and you have the MLB app for that, right? I have it on my phone 
and I don’t know if it’s the same as the Apple TV which I have as well. I did 
contact MLB and asked that they request that the radio feeds be added, but 
sadly, that hasn’t happened. I wonder if it will happen next year? We’ll see. 
Have a good day. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> 
> Less, the app has updated now, and the difficulty seems to have vanished, now 
> if they would just add access to the radio portion on the TV side of the app. 
> As it stands I have to access my Apple TV with my Apple phone and turn on the 
> radio to get it to my stereo.
>  
> Fred Olver, N9BSO
> - Original Message -
> From: Les Kriegler
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2022 9:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about MLB app?
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> Very interesting. I have not experienced that. I always see the current day 
> by the fall as long as it is close to noon Eastern time. So I am not certain 
> what’s going on in your case. Sorry you are running into difficulty.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Less, I find this issue to be true, no matter what time of day it is. 
>> Sometimes the app responds and sometimes it does not. I find it usually 
>> takes me 15-20 minutes to get it to do what I want it too.
>>  
>> Fred Olver, N9BSO
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Les Kriegler
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: Question about MLB app?
>> 
>> Actually, there is a reason for this. The feed is not updated to the current 
>> day until about 10 or 11 o’clock Eastern time in the morning. That’s why you 
>> are seeing this. As we stated, you can always go to the next day, but by the 
>> fault you will be on the previous day until late morning. That’s been going 
>> out for as long as I can remember.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone else having difficulties with the MLB app? Mine seems to want to be 
>>> a day behind, usually takes about 20 minutes to get it tto work.
>>>  
>>> Fred Olver, N9BSO
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Re: Question about MLB app?

[Les Kriegler]

OK, here is what I do. When I launch the MLB app, I choose audio. I just tried 
this a couple of minutes ago. It is showing the correct day for me. Now, there 
are no fees to choose from because those don’t go up until a couple hours 
before the game start. Since all the games are tonight, this would be expected 
behavior. It has been like this regardless of what update I am running. I know 
I have the latest update because I receive automatic updates.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2022, at 11:40 AM, rhs via VIPhone  wrote:
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> 
> Every time I go to the list of audio feeds I have to go to the next day in 
> order to have a list of today’s feeds.  My wife, who does not use VO,  has 
> the same issue.  I have an XR and she has an SE.  I think this is a bug that 
> came with the latest update to the app.
>  
> From: 'Paul D'Addario' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Question about MLB app?
>  
> I’m having no issues with the app and use it every day .
> I’m using i phone 12 pro.
> Not sure what to suggest .but hope it gets resolved soon.
> If  you wish to email me off list  I’ll try to assist.
> -Paul
> Paul D’Addario
> mostrelia...@verizon.net
>  
> On Jul 7, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
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> Anyone else having difficulties with the MLB app? Mine seems to want to be a 
> day behind, usually takes about 20 minutes to get it tto work.
>  
> Fred Olver, N9BSO
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Re: Question about MLB app?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Fred,

Very interesting. I have not experienced that. I always see the current day by 
the fall as long as it is close to noon Eastern time. So I am not certain 
what’s going on in your case. Sorry you are running into difficulty.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2022, at 9:03 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
> 
> 
> Less, I find this issue to be true, no matter what time of day it is. 
> Sometimes the app responds and sometimes it does not. I find it usually takes 
> me 15-20 minutes to get it to do what I want it too.
>  
> Fred Olver, N9BSO
> - Original Message -
> From: Les Kriegler
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about MLB app?
> 
> Actually, there is a reason for this. The feed is not updated to the current 
> day until about 10 or 11 o’clock Eastern time in the morning. That’s why you 
> are seeing this. As we stated, you can always go to the next day, but by the 
> fault you will be on the previous day until late morning. That’s been going 
> out for as long as I can remember.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone else having difficulties with the MLB app? Mine seems to want to be a 
>> day behind, usually takes about 20 minutes to get it tto work.
>>  
>> Fred Olver, N9BSO
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Re: Question about MLB app?

[Les Kriegler]

Actually, there is a reason for this. The feed is not updated to the current 
day until about 10 or 11 o’clock Eastern time in the morning. That’s why you 
are seeing this. As we stated, you can always go to the next day, but by the 
fault you will be on the previous day until late morning. That’s been going out 
for as long as I can remember.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:
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> 
> Anyone else having difficulties with the MLB app? Mine seems to want to be a 
> day behind, usually takes about 20 minutes to get it tto work.
>  
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Re: Sirius-XM

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Bill,

That’s great news. I will have to check it out. Now if the Cubs score some runs 
today, that would be good.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2022, at 3:44 PM, William Outman  wrote:
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> Good news. 
> The Sirius-XM feeds are functioning correctly on the app. 
> Bill Outman 
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Re: Sirius-XM problem

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Bill,

I am sorry you are in countering so many difficulties. I can now confirm that 
there are problems with the SiriusXM stream on my end. Yesterday, I wanted to 
listen to the Cleveland guardians game against the Yankees and what I got was a 
read out of the daily schedule as a post of the live stream. So something is 
definitely messed up there. N Nice wins for the Cubs lately. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2022, at 6:32 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,list. 
> I am still having problems. The first thing I am trying is to mae sure I have 
> the proper level of service. I know I did and that should not have changed.  
> I attempted to call today and found I needed to update my account info.  
> Apparently I had forgotten to do that last year when I dropped the land line 
> and went cell only, so I probably didn’t change the email either when I 
> dropped the Earthlink account in favor of my current gmail. 
> When I tried updating info through the phone menu which I remember doing 
> before for payment information, I was told customer care was closed, offered 
> being sent a text link, or to call back monday through Friday 8 am to 8 pm 
> Eastern. 
> Don’t know if I can chance that Monday due to the holiday here in America, 
> though it is not in Canada where they have customers. 
> I am not sure about user name and password; on one occasion I entered what I 
> thought was the password I had on file at the web site and got an error 
> message, so perhaps they may have to straighten that out once I get the 
> account info updated. 
> What a mess. 
> Bill 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 2:42 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>> 
>> Well, hopefully he has his username and password and then it’s not a big 
>> deal. But it might fix the issues he’s having. It’s worth a shot.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah but don't do that, unless you want to have to log into your XM radio 
>>> again.
>>> 
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>>>> On 7/1/22, 5:47 AM Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>>> Good morning, 
>>>> 
>>>> I do have a suggestion. At this point, it might be useful to uninstall and 
>>>> reinstall the product. That might resolve the issue you were having. I 
>>>> hope it does. 
>>>> Best regards, 
>>>> Les 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:53 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>>>> >  wrote: 
>>>> > 
>>>> > What plan do you happen to have with Sirius xm? 
>>>> > 
>>>> >> On Jun 30, 2022, at 21:21, William Outman  
>>>> >> wrote: 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Hi, Les. 
>>>> >> The Cubs happen to be my team as well. May have to call Sirius-XM as 
>>>> >> that’s the same procedure I follow as well. 
>>>> >> Glad to know there’s someone else out there in our group that’s living 
>>>> >> through this tough transitional year. 
>>>> >> Bill 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> >> 
>>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Les Kriegler  
>>>> >>>> wrote: 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Hi Bill, 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose 
>>>> >>> sports. Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to 
>>>> >>> play, it happen to be my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing 
>>>> >>> immediately. I’m not certain what would’ve changed in your system, but 
>>>> >>> things are working fine here and this is the procedure I followed to 
>>>> >>> get the stream to play. Good luck with this. 
>>>> >>> Best, 
>>>> >>> Les 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>> >>> 
>>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  
>>>> >>>> wrote: 
>>>> >>>> 
>>>> >>>> Good evening. 
>>>> >>>> I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus. 
>>>> >>>> Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one

Re: Sirius-XM problem

[Les Kriegler]

Well, hopefully he has his username and password and then it’s not a big deal. 
But it might fix the issues he’s having. It’s worth a shot.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Joseph Hudson  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah but don't do that, unless you want to have to log into your XM radio 
> again.
> 
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>> On 7/1/22, 5:47 AM Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> Good morning, 
>> 
>> I do have a suggestion. At this point, it might be useful to uninstall and 
>> reinstall the product. That might resolve the issue you were having. I hope 
>> it does. 
>> Best regards, 
>> Les 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:53 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > What plan do you happen to have with Sirius xm? 
>> > 
>> >> On Jun 30, 2022, at 21:21, William Outman  
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Hi, Les. 
>> >> The Cubs happen to be my team as well. May have to call Sirius-XM as 
>> >> that’s the same procedure I follow as well. 
>> >> Glad to know there’s someone else out there in our group that’s living 
>> >> through this tough transitional year. 
>> >> Bill 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone 
>> >> 
>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Hi Bill, 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose 
>> >>> sports. Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to play, 
>> >>> it happen to be my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing immediately. 
>> >>> I’m not certain what would’ve changed in your system, but things are 
>> >>> working fine here and this is the procedure I followed to get the stream 
>> >>> to play. Good luck with this. 
>> >>> Best, 
>> >>> Les 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> >>> 
>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  
>> >>>> wrote: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Good evening. 
>> >>>> I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus. 
>> >>>> Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one 
>> >>>> airing on MLB Network Radio. The channels show up in my app but when I 
>> >>>> select one the feed does not pull up. 
>> >>>> Sometimes the app will go to some other channel I have played. The 
>> >>>> play/pause button shows up correctly but the other buttons show as 
>> >>>> dimmed. I can find the current score when in the list of game channels. 
>> >>>> I looked for a setting that might be amiss, but couldn’t find one. When 
>> >>>> I am in the app sometime I see something about whether video is 
>> >>>> installed but can’t quite understand it, or if I need to change 
>> >>>> something. 
>> >>>> Is there a technical issue or is there something I need to adjust in my 
>> >>>> subscription or the app. 
>> >>>> I first noticed this problem Tuesday, as my team had the day off 
>> >>>> Monday, and Sunday was fine. 
>> >>>> Bill Outman 
>> >>>> e 
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Re: Sirius-XM problem

[Les Kriegler]

Good morning,

I do have a suggestion. At this point, it might be useful to uninstall and 
reinstall the product. That might resolve the issue you were having. I hope it 
does.
Best regards,
Les

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2022, at 12:53 AM, 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> What plan do you happen to have with Sirius xm? 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 21:21, William Outman  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Les. 
>> The Cubs happen to be my team as well. May have to call Sirius-XM as that’s 
>> the same procedure I follow as well.  
>> Glad to know there’s someone else out there in our group that’s living 
>> through this tough transitional year. 
>> Bill 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 9:10 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Bill,
>>> 
>>> I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose 
>>> sports. Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to play, it 
>>> happen to be my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing immediately. I’m 
>>> not certain what would’ve changed in your system, but things are working 
>>> fine here and this is the procedure I followed to get the stream to play. 
>>> Good luck with this.
>>> Best,
>>> Les 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good evening.  
>>>> I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus.  
>>>> Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one 
>>>> airing on MLB Network Radio. The channels show up in my app but when I 
>>>> select one the feed does not pull up. 
>>>> Sometimes the app will go to some other channel I have played. The 
>>>> play/pause button shows up correctly but the other buttons show as dimmed. 
>>>> I can find the current score when in the list of game channels.  
>>>> I looked for a setting that might be amiss, but couldn’t find one. When I 
>>>> am in the app sometime I see something about whether video is installed 
>>>> but can’t quite understand it, or if I need to change something.  
>>>> Is there a technical issue or is there something I need to adjust in my 
>>>> subscription or the app.  
>>>> I first noticed this problem Tuesday, as my team had the day off Monday, 
>>>> and Sunday was fine.  
>>>> Bill Outman 
>>>> e
>>>> 
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Re: Sirius-XM problem

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Bill,

I just went to the SiriusXM app on my iPhone. What I did was I chose sports. 
Then I chose MLB. Then I chose a channel that I wanted to play, it happen to be 
my teams game, the Cubs. It started playing immediately. I’m not certain what 
would’ve changed in your system, but things are working fine here and this is 
the procedure I followed to get the stream to play. Good luck with this.
Best,
Les 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2022, at 8:43 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Good evening.  
> I have Sirius-XM on my iPhone 8 Plus.  
> Suddenly this week I cannot get my baseball games other than the one airing 
> on MLB Network Radio. The channels show up in my app but when I select one 
> the feed does not pull up. 
> Sometimes the app will go to some other channel I have played. The play/pause 
> button shows up correctly but the other buttons show as dimmed. I can find 
> the current score when in the list of game channels.  
> I looked for a setting that might be amiss, but couldn’t find one. When I am 
> in the app sometime I see something about whether video is installed but 
> can’t quite understand it, or if I need to change something.  
> Is there a technical issue or is there something I need to adjust in my 
> subscription or the app.  
> I first noticed this problem Tuesday, as my team had the day off Monday, and 
> Sunday was fine.  
> Bill Outman 
> e
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, thanks for this. You learn something new all the time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Les, yes, that is indeed the normal gesture, unless you also have the 
> VoiceOVer Zoom feature on where it changes because the three finger triple 
> tap is reserved for activating Zoom if it is turned on in settings.
> 
> I discovered that early on when I was teaching the use of the iPhone/iPad...
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 11:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and 
> off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of 
> these.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Do they also use Zoom?
>> If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a 
>> triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off.
>> Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
>> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster 
>> and faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget 
>> that a precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's 
>> too late."
>> 
>> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
>> Paul)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Fanus,
>>> 
>>> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You 
>>> could go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover 
>>> practice. Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect 
>>> the gesture. 
>>> 
>>> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by 
>>> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once 
>>> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. 
>>> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose 
>>> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use 
>>> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap 
>>> area is pretty far down the screen.
>>> 
>>> I hope that helps! 
>>> 
>>> Take care and stay safe!
>>> 
>>> Debby
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Fanus Buys
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
>>> 
>>> Hello list
>>> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three 
>>> finger tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I 
>>> can not find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not 
>>> help. Is there an alternative?
>>> Regards
>>> Fanus
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Alternative for turning screen curtain off

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Hope you’re doing well. I think the command for turning screen curtain on and 
off is a triple three finger tap. I know, it’s hard to keep track of all of 
these.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Do they also use Zoom?
> If so, the gesture is a quadruple three finger tap for screen curtain and a 
> triple three finger tap to toggle speech on and off.
> Those are the only VO gestures that Zoom impacts. 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Debby  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Fanus,
>> 
>> I have two thoughts. First, especially if you are with the person, You could 
>> go to settings, accessibility, voiceover and go to the voiceover practice. 
>> Then the person could just practice to see if they can perfect the gesture. 
>> 
>> If that doesn't work, the gesture could be changed to something easier by 
>> going to settings, accessibility, voiceover, commands, touch gestures. Once 
>> on that screen look for the "screen curtain" and single-finger double tap. 
>> Then you will get a list of all the voiceover gestures and you can choose 
>> the one that will work for the screen curtain. Probably the best one to use 
>> will be the back tap. On the screen with all of the gestures, the back tap 
>> area is pretty far down the screen.
>> 
>> I hope that helps! 
>> 
>> Take care and stay safe!
>> 
>> Debby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2022 7:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Alternative for turning screen curtain off
>> 
>> Hello list
>> A friend does not succeed to turn screen curtain off by doing a three finger 
>> tripple tap on her iPhone 7. I looked at voiceOver settings but I can not 
>> find something there. Turning the phone off and on again does not help. Is 
>> there an alternative?
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>> 
>> 
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Re: Finding “Up Next“ on the Apple TV app on the Apple TV

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,

Well, I’m having trouble with my Apple TV but I did load the app on my iPhone. 
What I did was swipe past the Up Next until I got to a button that said live 
now I did a one finger double tap on that and the program started. I  I hope 
that helps.
Best,
Les 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2022, at 6:12 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I’m sending this here, because it’s the biggest apple list I think I’m on, 
> and I don’t think there’s an Apple TV list. Anyway, I have added the baseball 
> games that will be on Apple TV+ to my Up Next. The problem is, I can’t find 
> Up Next. Actually I did find it, but everything in there are movies or TV 
> shows that I have purchased on iTunes. The baseball games that I added are 
> not showing up. It said they were added. But the only Up Next I can find is 
> nothing but movies and TV shows. Any help?
> 
> 
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Re: Checking in for my Spirit Airlines flight

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Hi Bill,

In the email you received, you probably have a code which you can provide when 
you check in. Alternatively, you could just provide your last name and they can 
look you up and you should be fine. Have a good flight.
Best regards,
Les

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> On Mar 29, 2022, at 12:48 PM, William Outman  wrote:
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> Hi, list. 
> I need to know how to check in for my Spirit Airlines flight Thursday and the 
> return on Monday. I’ve never done this before without a traditional paper 
> ticket. 
> I have the Spirit Airlines app and the confirmation email from wen I last 
> updated my reservation. I have a couple more emails from the airline trying 
> to sell me on seat upgrades and other things, I think. 
> How do I go about things from here? 
> Bill Outman 
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Re: Google Nest Thermostat Ap

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Hi Denise,

I have the Nest app and the nest thermostat. I’ve used it for years. It is very 
accessible. The only issue is the scheduling function. It is very difficult to 
create a schedule, however, it will learn your habits and so I don’t see the 
scheduling issue as a big deal. Other than that, I am able to perform all the 
necessary functions that I need. You should do well with it.

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> 
> Does anyone know if the google nest thermostat ap is accessible? That is the 
> thermostat that is currently installed in the house I just moved into and we 
> know nothing about it.
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Re: Voiceover voicing “USD” after every stock price on the stock app… Following my update from 15.1 to 15.2

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Alan And interested others,

Actually, I have experienced a problem and I need to contact Apple 
accessibility on this. I have a watchlist in Stocks app. When I swipe to the 
right I am often taken back to the beginning of the list all right here the 
same security repeated. It’s very annoying to say the least. Does anybody else 
experience this?

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> On Jan 7, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> I noticed that recent Voiceover USD addition too in the Stocks app and 
> figured it was something I'd have to live with. I always wonder about the 
> folks who code these apps and their infinite lack of wisdom when they decide 
> to change Voiceover's behavior for speaking additional details that have not 
> previously been provided. I expect the very large majority of those using 
> these devices are working with one currency based on their home location. If 
> I learn of a way to turn off this new inconvenience, I'll post back.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
> Carlson
> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022 9:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Voiceover voicing “USD” after every stock price on the stock app… 
> Following my update from 15.1 to 15.2
> 
> Please let me know what setting I need to change in order to have the stock 
> price red with out the suffix of USD. Thank you for your help.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Voice Dream Scanner scanning a book

[Les Kriegler]

Amen brother. As a fellow retiree, I couldn’t agree with you more.

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> On Dec 29, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I wasn’t going to bother adding to the responses to the idiotic message about 
> one’s use of time; but here I am again.
>  
> First, it is certainly no one else’s damn business what anyone does with 
> their time.
>  
> Second, I worked my ass off for a lot of years and am now retired and can do 
> the things I want to do, when I want to do them, and allocate my time to the 
> things in which I am interested.
>  
> Third, the book in question sat on my shelf for all those years because I was 
> working and did not take the time to scan it, and that was a very good thing, 
> because the technology is so much better now.
>  
> Fourth, and lastly,  I spent all of about 90 minutes scanning the book that I 
> wanted to read and would have no other way to read it, and that was time very 
> well spent.
>  
> Richard
> “If you want knowledge, you must toil for it; if food, you must toil for it; 
> and if pleasure, you must toil for it: toil is the law.” ~ John Ruskin
>  
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Hearing Aid Question

[Les Kriegler]

Hi All,
My hearing aids went in for service today. I received a loaner pair. There was 
an option to lower external sounds when VO was running on my phone. When I 
stopped using the phone, in about three seconds, any external sounds returned 
to it normal volume. I called Apple Accessibility and the rep with whom I spoke 
said the only setting she was aware of was attention Awareness settings which 
had no effect on this issue. Anybody know how to activate this feature? Thanks 
for the assist.
Best Regards,

Les

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Re: Speech problem

[Les Kriegler]

Actually, if you hear the message speech off, you need to do a three finger 
double tap to turn it back on. If you do a triple three finger tap you will 
turns green curtain on or off depending on the state that it’s in when you do 
that three finger triple tap. Hope this makes sense.

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> On Nov 5, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It is rather easy to sometimes do a three finger double tap when you meant to 
> do a two finger double tap.  That extra finger just has to barely graze the 
> surface to have this happen.
>  
> If you hear VoiceOver say Speech Off, that is the result of a three finger 
> double tap.
> That is the only gesture that will do that.
> As Holly said, just do it again to toggle it back on.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Speech problem
>  
> Rina:
>  
> Try a three finger double tap.  This toggles speech on and off.  You should 
> hear speech on when you do a three finger double tap.
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Re: Having trouble using Apple Pay

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Tom,
When I’ve been asked to verify something with the side button, I always have to 
hit it twice. Could that be your issue? I have an Apple Card and I always have 
to hit the side button twice in order to submit my payment.
Best,

Les

> On Oct 30, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Tom Cramer  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I actually have cash in my apple wallet and am trying to use Apple
> Pay. It tells me that I have money loaded. When I try and use it for
> something, it asks me to verify with the Side button. The only side
> button I know is the one that will either lock the phone or activate
> Siri. I tried pushing the side button, but nothing got activated so as
> to pay. I turned voiceover off and then did it, but again, it didn't
> work. Do I need to do something else?
> I'd like to learn to use this.
> Tom
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Re: Need A New Money Reading App

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,
You are correct. CashReader costs around $25 and is a one-time purchase. I am 
hoping to visit a couple of countries ar some point, perhaps next year, so I 
purchased the app.
Best Regards,

Les

> On Oct 22, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I believe Cash Reader has a one-time purchase option which ends up being much 
> less expensive in the long run.
> It has more currencies available than most money identification apps.
> I'm in the US and don't travel outside the country so I only use EyeNote.  
> Free and easy which I mentioned in my prior post.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carrie 
> Snodgrass
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need A New Money Reading App
> 
> The same thing happened to me. I decided to purchase the cash reader app at 
> the time because I was in a hurry, and it was one of the first apps to come 
> up. It is a subscription, but the app works very well and identifies the 
> bills very quickly. I have not yet researched free money reader apps, 
> although I should, but I am very happy with the cash reader app.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 22, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Evan Reese  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Guys,
>> 
>> I've had an app called Money Reader on my iPad Mini for a few years. It's 
>> been quite a while since I used it. I tried this morning and found out that 
>> it won't open now. I got the message that the app needs to be updated to 
>> work with this version of iOS, and an Okay button. When I click the Okay 
>> button. When I click the Okay button, the message disappears and I'm back to 
>> the list of apps.
>> 
>> So I guess I need to get one that will work with the latest version of iOS.
>> 
>> I'm looking for suggestions.
>> 
>> Thanks very much.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPad Question?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Pam,

I actually have the new iPad mini on order. Could you explain what containers 
are and how you would navigate them. Do you swipe left and right the same as 
you do with other elements? Thanks for the assist.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that. 
>  My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.
>  
> I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.
>  
> Pam
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
> So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on 
> the iPad.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> Thanks much, Richard.
> May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad Question?
>  
> When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
> there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
> Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
> screen and you should find what you want.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I have iPad Mini.
> This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
> accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
> of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
> because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
> Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
> anything selected in Settings in iPad?
> Thanks!
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Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

[Les Kriegler]

Yes, attention settings are off. Thanks for the suggestion.
Les

> On Oct 5, 2021, at 1:35 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And for me it's the opposite, Face Id is more reliable. Les, did you turn off 
> attention?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: October 4, 2021 12:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Well, I have been using Face ID for close to a year. I can state one fat 
> categorically. Touch ID worked essentially 100% of the time for me. Face ID 
> does not. It works the majority of the time, but certainly not always. Wow I 
> can live with Face ID, I do hope that Apple comes out with a touch ID option. 
> Even if it’s not an actual button, I would still like to see them implement 
> that. If they don’t, I can live with it, however.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Just so I'm clear, I'm by no means saying that just because I miss 
>> the home button doesn't mean I couldn't operate a phone without one, I just 
>> like it, that's all.  I have not used a phone with face ID yet, as I have 
>> the latest SE Version that I upgraded to from my 8.  With that being said, I 
>> do like the touch ID and was just posing the question if face ID is harder 
>> to use for a person who's blind.  I ask because the nature of my eye 
>> conditions makes my eyes move on their own and I was wondering if that'd 
>> cause a problem with facial recognition.
>> I would however miss not being able to just touch my phone to unlock it and 
>> always having to pick it up and put it in front of my face to unlock it.
>> Johna
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Alex Stone
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>> 
>> Sieghart, I completely agree. How some blind i or Vi people act as though 
>> the lack of a home makes the entire device completely inaccessible.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 19:28, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button 
>>> to be not a big deal once you get used to the swipe up from the bottom. For 
>>> me it's at a point where I always try to swipe up on the iPad we have at my 
>>> store before I remember "Oh, this has a home button". I mean what does the 
>>> home button really do? Just 2 things, you press it once to get out of an 
>>> app and go to the home screen and second you press it twice to bring up the 
>>> app switcher. The triple press to start or stop Voiceover is already taken 
>>> care of by triple pressing the side button.
>>> As for the single and double press, instead of putting your finger on the 
>>> home button and pressing it you put your finger on the bottom of the screen 
>>> where you would put it anyways if you had a home button and you do a bit of 
>>> a swipe up or a bit more of a swipe up if you want to bring up the app 
>>> switcher. I honestly find it easier and when it come sto Touch Id, well, 
>>> Face Id works actually better for me because I can use it when I wear 
>>> gloves or when my fingers are messed up from woodworking. Yes, I know only 
>>> a very small percentage of blind people use a table saw and other power 
>>> tools, but I know a lot of sighted people who are in the same boat, they do 
>>> a lot of manual work and Touch Id doesn't work for them 9 out of 10 times 
>>> like for my brother who is a Rancher, a good friend of mine who is a 
>>> mechanic and either wears gloves or his hands are full of oil and grease.. 
>>> I somehow doubt Apple will once again replace Face Id with Touch Id and if 
>>> they can implement a Touch Id home button like on some iPads or even better 
>>> under-glass Touch Id then people have the best of both worlds. I think a 
>>> phone which you drag around everywhere would be better with under-glass 
>>> Touch Id because I could see where a Touch Id home button could get damaged.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Johna Gravitt
>>> Sent: October 4, 2021 10:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>>> 
>>> I'm personall

Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14

[Les Kriegler]

Well, I have been using Face ID for close to a year. I can state one fat 
categorically. Touch ID worked essentially 100% of the time for me. Face ID 
does not. It works the majority of the time, but certainly not always. Wow I 
can live with Face ID, I do hope that Apple comes out with a touch ID option. 
Even if it’s not an actual button, I would still like to see them implement 
that. If they don’t, I can live with it, however.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> Just so I'm clear, I'm by no means saying that just because I miss the home 
> button doesn't mean I couldn't operate a phone without one, I just like it, 
> that's all.  I have not used a phone with face ID yet, as I have the latest 
> SE 
> Version that I upgraded to from my 8.  With that being said, I do like the 
> touch ID and was just posing the question if face ID is harder to use for a 
> person who's blind.  I ask because the nature of my eye conditions makes my 
> eyes move on their own and I was wondering if that'd cause a problem with 
> facial recognition.
> I would however miss not being able to just touch my phone to unlock it and 
> always having to pick it up and put it in front of my face to unlock it.
> Johna
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
> 
> Sieghart, I completely agree. How some blind i or Vi people act as though the 
> lack of a home makes the entire device completely inaccessible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2021, at 19:28, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I think almost all visually impaired users find the lack of a home button 
>> to be not a big deal once you get used to the swipe up from the bottom. For 
>> me it's at a point where I always try to swipe up on the iPad we have at my 
>> store before I remember "Oh, this has a home button". I mean what does the 
>> home button really do? Just 2 things, you press it once to get out of an app 
>> and go to the home screen and second you press it twice to bring up the app 
>> switcher. The triple press to start or stop Voiceover is already taken care 
>> of by triple pressing the side button.
>> As for the single and double press, instead of putting your finger on the 
>> home button and pressing it you put your finger on the bottom of the screen 
>> where you would put it anyways if you had a home button and you do a bit of 
>> a swipe up or a bit more of a swipe up if you want to bring up the app 
>> switcher. I honestly find it easier and when it come sto Touch Id, well, 
>> Face Id works actually better for me because I can use it when I wear gloves 
>> or when my fingers are messed up from woodworking. Yes, I know only a very 
>> small percentage of blind people use a table saw and other power tools, but 
>> I know a lot of sighted people who are in the same boat, they do a lot of 
>> manual work and Touch Id doesn't work for them 9 out of 10 times like for my 
>> brother who is a Rancher, a good friend of mine who is a mechanic and either 
>> wears gloves or his hands are full of oil and grease.. I somehow doubt Apple 
>> will once again replace Face Id with Touch Id and if they can implement a 
>> Touch Id home button like on some iPads or even better under-glass Touch Id 
>> then people have the best of both worlds. I think a phone which you drag 
>> around everywhere would be better with under-glass Touch Id because I could 
>> see where a Touch Id home button could get damaged.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Johna Gravitt
>> Sent: October 4, 2021 10:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>> 
>> I'm personally still bothered by the fact that they got rid of the home 
>> button If they get rid of touch id wouldn't that make it harder for VO users?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 1:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: This is why you should wait for the iPhone 14
>> 
>> Well, there's also customer demand. I know if all things were equal, and I 
>> had the option to have touch ID included, then I'd go with the phone that 
>> offered me touch ID. I don't know if the demand is strong enough for Apple 
>> to consider this, or if Apple would even take this into account. I'd also be 
>> a little skeptical about reading Apple's reasons why they don't include 
>> touch ID. Sure, it may be because they think face ID is more secure, but 
>> they were also able to get rid of the home button and a finger print 
>> scanner. It'll be interesting to see if they consider in screen touch ID in 
>> the future.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-

Re: Apple One

[Les Kriegler]

Well, if you call 1-800 275 Dash 2273 and ask for iTunes support, I think they 
will connect you with them. It’s certainly worth a try.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Les. I know somewhere I saw a reference to how if you had a 
> subscription to something and then you signed up for the all everything, it 
> would be taken care of. I’m just not sure how it works. My music subscription 
> runs out a couple of days from now. My husbands TV plus runs out a month or 
> so from now, etc. So I guess I should try to call somewhere and Apple, it’s 
> just that I never call anybody except Accessibility, since all my devices 
> don’t have AppleCare plus anymore.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi again Mary 
>> 
>> I had another thought. You might want to ride to support and iTunes.com and 
>> pose that question to them. Again, I would be confident that they would work 
>> with you on this.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am sorry for that vague subject line. I am interested to know if anybody 
>>> has experience in signing up for an Apple one bundle when you might be in 
>>> the middle of a subscription which is included in that bundle. For 
>>> instance, I have Apple Music, and my husband has Apple TV+. We are in a 
>>> family sharing group. My music subscription is about to run out, and it is 
>>> a yearly one, so if I pay for it in a couple of days I have it for a year. 
>>> What happens if, after I’ve renewed that subscription, we decide to go for 
>>> the Apple one premium or whatever it’s called, $30 a month that gets you 
>>> everything, like Apple Arcade that I don’t care about, but that’s another 
>>> matter. Do you just lose all the money you paid? I’ve tried to Google 
>>> around and haven’t had much success. So, has anybody done this?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Apple One

[Les Kriegler]

Hi again Mary 

I had another thought. You might want to ride to support and iTunes.com and 
pose that question to them. Again, I would be confident that they would work 
with you on this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry for that vague subject line. I am interested to know if anybody 
> has experience in signing up for an Apple one bundle when you might be in the 
> middle of a subscription which is included in that bundle. For instance, I 
> have Apple Music, and my husband has Apple TV+. We are in a family sharing 
> group. My music subscription is about to run out, and it is a yearly one, so 
> if I pay for it in a couple of days I have it for a year. What happens if, 
> after I’ve renewed that subscription, we decide to go for the Apple one 
> premium or whatever it’s called, $30 a month that gets you everything, like 
> Apple Arcade that I don’t care about, but that’s another matter. Do you just 
> lose all the money you paid? I’ve tried to Google around and haven’t had much 
> success. So, has anybody done this?
> 
> 
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Re: Apple One

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,

While I have not had experience with the subscriptions, I would think that if 
you decide you wish to go for the premium bundle, Apple would be cooperative in 
assisting you with a refund. I’m not certain that Apple accessibility could 
take care of it, but I would think that you would get cooperation from Apple. 
Hopefully, somebody who has more experience will respond to your query.
Best regards,
Les

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry for that vague subject line. I am interested to know if anybody 
> has experience in signing up for an Apple one bundle when you might be in the 
> middle of a subscription which is included in that bundle. For instance, I 
> have Apple Music, and my husband has Apple TV+. We are in a family sharing 
> group. My music subscription is about to run out, and it is a yearly one, so 
> if I pay for it in a couple of days I have it for a year. What happens if, 
> after I’ve renewed that subscription, we decide to go for the Apple one 
> premium or whatever it’s called, $30 a month that gets you everything, like 
> Apple Arcade that I don’t care about, but that’s another matter. Do you just 
> lose all the money you paid? I’ve tried to Google around and haven’t had much 
> success. So, has anybody done this?
> 
> 
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UPS Deliveries

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Sieghard,
Well, you know, I could have done that, but I didn’t wish to bust Richard’s 
chops. In all seriousness, I think the reason they left my wife’s iPad is 
because we now live in a Senior Living Community in an apartment. For all I 
know, the UPS driver may know us by now. We sold our home and moved out of the 
area to be closer to our kids, so deliveries are easier for us than they were 
when we owned a home. Thanks for a trip down memory lane with the Apple Stores.
Best Regards,

Les

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Re: No new iPhone yet

[Les Kriegler]

My wife just reminded me that she almost killed me because of this. It’s 
amazing the things you learn many years later.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I remember the good old days 10 years ago when the release date of new 
> iPhones was announced during the Apple Event and then people would start 
> lining up in front of all the Apple Stores starting at midnight and by 
> morning in some places the line up would stretch around the block! How things 
> change, there are still fans who order the minute the new phones go up online 
> or probably those who are at the store when they open to get one, but it's a 
> far cry from what it used to be which is of course a good thing because at 
> times it seemed that getting a new iPhone was absolutely the most important, 
> life-altering event with reporters interviewing those in line as if it really 
> made a difference.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 25, 2021 10:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet
>  
> I found out the plan was the next “business day” by calling and getting a 
> call back 32 minutes later from a human since the automated BS system 
> couldn’t answer my question.
> I could have it sent to a depot but that would be Tuesday so Monday will due 
> just fine.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet
>  
> Here it would be dropped off at a local depot where you can then go with your 
> card and Id to pick it up.
> Usually you can also contact UPS to make arrangements; I am surprised there 
> are no further instructions.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 25, 2021 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: No new iPhone yet
>  
> I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … 
> well, I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, 
> with nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two 
> more times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is 
> Monday.
> So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.
>  
> It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic. 
>  They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, 
> especially with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to 
> be liable.
>  
> O well, patience is a virtue, right?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
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Re: No new iPhone yet

[Les Kriegler]

I was one of those people. I think the earliest I ever showed up was at 5:30. 
Usually though, it was around seven:30 to 8 o’clock. Yes, those were the good 
all days.

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> On Sep 25, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> And I remember the good old days 10 years ago when the release date of new 
> iPhones was announced during the Apple Event and then people would start 
> lining up in front of all the Apple Stores starting at midnight and by 
> morning in some places the line up would stretch around the block! How things 
> change, there are still fans who order the minute the new phones go up online 
> or probably those who are at the store when they open to get one, but it's a 
> far cry from what it used to be which is of course a good thing because at 
> times it seemed that getting a new iPhone was absolutely the most important, 
> life-altering event with reporters interviewing those in line as if it really 
> made a difference.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 25, 2021 10:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet
>  
> I found out the plan was the next “business day” by calling and getting a 
> call back 32 minutes later from a human since the automated BS system 
> couldn’t answer my question.
> I could have it sent to a depot but that would be Tuesday so Monday will due 
> just fine.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet
>  
> Here it would be dropped off at a local depot where you can then go with your 
> card and Id to pick it up.
> Usually you can also contact UPS to make arrangements; I am surprised there 
> are no further instructions.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 25, 2021 8:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: No new iPhone yet
>  
> I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … 
> well, I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, 
> with nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two 
> more times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is 
> Monday.
> So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.
>  
> It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic. 
>  They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, 
> especially with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to 
> be liable.
>  
> O well, patience is a virtue, right?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
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Re: No new iPhone yet

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Well come on my wife’s new iPad mini came yesterday by UPS. I’m sure it was an 
expensive as your iPhone 13 Pro, but I’m guessing it just depends on the 
driver. Anyway, hope you get your shipment on Monday. Enjoy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 11:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … 
> well, I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, 
> with nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two 
> more times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is 
> Monday.
> So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.
>  
> It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic. 
>  They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, 
> especially with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to 
> be liable.
>  
> O well, patience is a virtue, right?
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
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Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Alan,
We have used the Nest Thermostat for years. I realize there are less expensive 
options out there. As far as the app is concerned, other than not being able to 
work the schedule feature, it is perfectly accessible. The schedule is not a 
big issue for me, since it learns your preferences as you adjust the 
temperature. That piece works well. When we travel, it is easy to adjust the 
state of the system. For instance, we went away for 9 days, and I turned the 
system off. Before we arrived home, I was able to re-enable the system. It does 
work with Alexa. Hope this helps.

Les

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
> systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
> I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
> the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone 
> and also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system 
> can install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
> installation process starts tomorrow.
>  
> I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not 
> mind reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments 
> on which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat 
> are also needed.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Is Zelle Accessible?

[Les Kriegler]

I have only use it to pay individuals. I have never use it in the store. I have 
used Apple Pay, however.

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> On Aug 27, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this. Is Zelle mainly meant for transferring between individuals, 
> or can I use it in a store to make a payment at the register? I have used 
> Apple Pay for a while now are there any advantages or disadvantages to Zelle, 
> or is it basicly another way to do the same thing? Again, thanks for any 
> opinions. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> ,
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> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
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> On Aug 27, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arnold,
> 
> Yes, Zell is definitely accessible. I’ve used it for a couple of years and 
> it’s worked well. I have also use Venmo and that works, oh that was more 
> tricky to set up. It sounds like you can access the Zell interface through 
> your bank. That’s the way I do it and it works fine.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 27, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
>> 
>> Zelle seems to be the most widely used one of these money transfer 
>> programs, my bank keeps sending me advertising about it. Is it accessible, 
>> or at least useable with VoiceOver? Thanks for any information. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
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Re: Is Zelle Accessible?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Arnold,

Yes, Zell is definitely accessible. I’ve used it for a couple of years and it’s 
worked well. I have also use Venmo and that works, oh that was more tricky to 
set up. It sounds like you can access the Zell interface through your bank. 
That’s the way I do it and it works fine.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Zelle seems to be the most widely used one of these money transfer programs, 
> my bank keeps sending me advertising about it. Is it accessible, or at least 
> useable with VoiceOver? Thanks for any information. 
> 
> Arnold Schmidt 
> 
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Re: MLB Audio

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Well, I hope you have more luck than I did. I spoke with MLB regarding the lack 
of video feeds on the MLB TV app. Fred had alerted us to that a while back. So 
far, they haven’t fix that issue. So I guess we shall see. I meant the audio 
feeds. The video feeds work. The audio feeds/radio broadcast do not.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary and all,
>  
> I called MLB today at: 1-866-800-1275
> After a lengthy email conversation over the last week plus concerning the 
> fact that in the MLB app, on the scores tab, pressing the next or previous 
> day buttons do nothing with VoiceOver.
> The nice gentleman I spoke with was aware of VoiceOver, so that was a plus.
>  
> He looked up my case and I let him know I had done everything they asked, and 
> a little more, and it did not solve the problem and that it was in the last 
> two updates that this feature stopped working.
> He has an iPhone and those buttons work for him.
>  
> He submitted a new case tying the previous two cases together explaining that 
> I had done everything and so we shall see if they will get the VoiceOver bug 
> fixed.
>  
> I will have my wife try this on her iPad to double check, but apparently it 
> should work without VoiceOver.
>  
> I encourage anyone who is frustrated with this broken functionality to call 
> them and wade through their menus to get to someone concerning the Apple app 
> and maybe they will get around to fixing it soon.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
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Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Les Kriegler]

No problem. I do it in my spare time when he got angry enough.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry, if I’d known you were a moderator, I wouldn’t have sent it.
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Les 
> Kriegler 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:46:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
> threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
> find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
>> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
>> justice!
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>>  
>> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
>> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
>> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
>> welcome to stay where they are
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hell no alex,
>>  
>> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>>  
>> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
>> Stone
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
>> A Fogarty 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
>> overly possible either?
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
>> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
>> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in 
>> the end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population 
>> who can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
>> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what 
>> happened to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
>> Regards
>> Fanus
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>>  
>> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>>  
>> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>>  
>> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
>> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
>> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>>  
>> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
>> S doesn’t have one.
>>  
>> I’d start with www.apple.com
>> And see what happens froom there.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
>> Buys
>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>>  
>> Hello Simon
>> That i

Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here

[Les Kriegler]

OK, what on earth is this have to do with Apple Music? I have my messages 
threaded and every time you submit something like this, I have to scroll and 
find the thread delete the message and close it. So please stick to the topic.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> 
> It hurts me to say so but one of the sexiest women I’ve ever met was a a 
> sighted Kiwi. She’s married to someone else now, which proves there’s no 
> justice!
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:29:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Yeah they’re close, but some times to close,
>  
> One of our prime ministers back in the 80s
> Said that everytime a kiwi goes to Australia
> They raise the IQ of both countrys
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:23 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> My brother Tom is married to an Ozzie, so as far as I’m concerned they’re 
> welcome to stay where they are
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 12:18:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hell no alex,
>  
> They are keeping poisonis things over there,
>  
> We’re trying to close the border completely to keep them out.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 June 2021 11:16 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Simon, so you’re not prepared to do the decent thing, and swim to Australia?
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon 
> A Fogarty 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 11:43:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> So I’m guessing crossing the boarder in to one of the other nations is not 
> overly possible either?
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 8:25 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> Apple SA is not a retail store. They just import the products and then 
> distribute to apple Stores which are franchises. So to buy direct from apple 
> I have to import the product and the shipping charges are so much that in the 
> end I would pay nearly double the price. The section of our population who 
> can afford these expensive stuff is so small that items might ly on the 
> shelves for month and thus damage the battery. I am sure that's what happened 
> to my iPod and Airpods so that I got less than two years use.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 2:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> What do you mean you can’t buy directly from apple?
>  
> Apple have websites for a lot of countrys and you can buy off those sites.
>  
> As for stock sitting on shelves,
>  
> That happens everywhere and there isn’t a lot we can do
> But a warranty is taken from the day of purchase not the day the product 
> started it’s sitting on the shelf life.
>  
> Have a look on line at your closest countries apple site if your
> S doesn’t have one.
>  
> I’d start with www.apple.com
> And see what happens froom there.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 June 2021 1:50 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Simon
> That is one of my concerns with Apple products. I do not live in the US so I 
> can not buy directly from Apple, so I always wonder for how long has an item 
> been lying on the shelve in the apple store and how does this affect the 
> battery. I purchased an iPod Touch 3 years ago and the battery is almost dead 
> and I can not have it replaced. I got the airpods almost two years ago and 
> one of the two pieces does not charge and I have not used it so often but I 
> made sure that the case stayed fully charged.
> Regards
> Fanus
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Have a look at the apple website at the beats headphones and see what they 
> say about the tech specs.
>  
> If you’re set on beats then buy from apple directly.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
> Buys
> Sent: Monday, 21 June 2021 9:29 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Music Spacial Audio is here
>  
> Hello Sieghard and list
> I am in the market for new headphones because my airpods lost battery life 
> withi

Re: Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,
Thank you. Yes, this is very helpful. I will be waiting until Prime Days next 
Monday and Tuesday and order then. Without documentation, your review is 
particularly useful. Have a good day.
Best,

Les

> On Jun 12, 2021, at 11:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> For the computer, you plug the Usb dongle into a USB port on your compputer, 
> and press the first device key; The first of the three device keys is already 
> paired to that USB dogle.
> To pair then with a bluetooth device; like an iPhone.
> Do the usual, and open the Bluetooth settings on your iPhone.
> Then hold down the device 2 or 3 key on the keyboard. When the keyboard shows 
> up, double tap on it and they are paired.
> You can now just press the device key you want for the device you'd like to 
> use with the keyboard.
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
> 
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2021, at 2:41 PM, Les Kriegler > <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> I appreciate your review, it is very helpful. I am planning to purchase this 
>> keyboard in the next week or so. My question is this. How do you set up a 
>> Bluetooth pairing with this keyboard? I know about the three assignment keys 
>> and I’m wondering if that is part of the process. Thanks.
>> Best,
>> 
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> I appreciate your review, it is very helpful. I am planning to purchase this 
>> keyboard in the next week or so. My question is this. How do you set up a 
>> Bluetooth pairing with this keyboard? I know about the three assignment keys 
>> and I’m wondering if that is part of the process. Thanks.
>> Best,
>> Les
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Richard Turner >> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS
>>>  
>>> I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
>>> problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to 
>>> go back to an ergonomic keyboard.
>>> So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the 
>>> better ergonomic keyboards.
>>>  
>>> I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since 
>>> I like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
>>> Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
>>> I'll start with the negatives.
>>>  
>>> Cons:
>>> (When I first wrote this up, I thought there was no Applications Key, but 
>>> there is, listed as number 8 under Pros.)
>>> 1.  Only one Windows key on the left.
>>> 2.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
>>> hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
>>> 3.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
>>> 4.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
>>> Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
>>> course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
>>> ergonomics of the thing.
>>> 5.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the 
>>> split is between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, 
>>> the habit of hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be 
>>> retrained.
>>>  
>>> Pros:
>>> 1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
>>> wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it 
>>> has feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level 
>>> arrangement which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no 
>>> real need for feet in the back.
>>> 2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in 
>>> the USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble 
>>> communicating with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that 
>>> toggles you between standard function keys and the media function keys.  
>>> Easy to press accidentally.
>>> 3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 
>>> years.  I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
>>> 4.  Th

Re: Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS, updated info about the Applications key

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I appreciate your review, it is very helpful. I am planning to purchase this 
keyboard in the next week or so. My question is this. How do you set up a 
Bluetooth pairing with this keyboard? I know about the three assignment keys 
and I’m wondering if that is part of the process. Thanks.
Best,

Hi Richard,

I appreciate your review, it is very helpful. I am planning to purchase this 
keyboard in the next week or so. My question is this. How do you set up a 
Bluetooth pairing with this keyboard? I know about the three assignment keys 
and I’m wondering if that is part of the process. Thanks.
Best,
Les
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> Logitech K860 Wireless ergonomic keyboard for Windows/android or Mac/iOS
>  
> I needed a new keyboard as my 15-year-old USB keyboard was starting to have 
> problems with a few keys and my old hands are deciding that it is time to go 
> back to an ergonomic keyboard.
> So, after doing some research, I settled on what is rated as one of the 
> better ergonomic keyboards.
>  
> I was not set on wireless, but that is the way the world is going and since I 
> like Logitech products in general, I went with this one.
> Logitech K860 Split wireless Ergonomic keyboard.  It is pricy at $130.
> I'll start with the negatives.
>  
> Cons:
> (When I first wrote this up, I thought there was no Applications Key, but 
> there is, listed as number 8 under Pros.)
> 1.  Only one Windows key on the left.
> 2.  No accessible documentation.  And no true documentation about the 
> hieroglyphic symbols   used on some of the keys.
> 3.  It is too easy to toggle to the media functions for the function keys.
> 4.  It is pretty large.  Left to right it is the same width as my standard 
> Wired USB keyboard.  Front to back it is about 1.5 times as deep.  And, of 
> course, much higher off the desk at the front edge due to the curve for the 
> ergonomics of the thing.
> 5.  *Not really a con, just the nature of ergonomic keyboards, but the split 
> is between the 6 and 7, (and f6 and f7) keys, so for touch typists, the habit 
> of hitting the 6and F6 with your right index finger has to be retrained.
>  
> Pros:
> 1.  It is probably the most comfortable keyboard I have ever typed on.  The 
> wrist rest is quite comfortable, and for me, at the right height Plus, it has 
> feet under the front edge so you can raise it up to a more level arrangement 
> which fits me perfectly.  It is already on a slight angle so no real need for 
> feet in the back.
> 2.  Easy setup with or without the Logitech Options package.  I plugged in 
> the USB receiver turned on the keyboard and Windows 10 had no trouble 
> communicating with it.  There is a little key next to the f12 key that 
> toggles you between standard function keys and the media function keys.  Easy 
> to press accidentally.
> 3.  It takes two triple A batteries, and they say that they will last 2 
> years.  I believe it based on my experience with the K480.
> 4.  This is a full-sized keyboard with the number pad.
> 5.  If I used the Windows Calculator more, this has a designated key above 
> the Num-lock key to launch the Windows Calculator.
> 6.  It can connect to 3 devices.  Either 3 Bluetooth devices or 1 USB and 2 
> Bluetooth, and/or possibly 2 USB devices and one Bluetooth, that isn't clear. 
>  Connecting it to my iPhone was easy after I called their support line.
> The three keys for switching between devices are right above the 6 pack, 
> making it a 9 pack.
> It is tremendously easy to switch devices.  I wanted to check a key function 
> on my iPhone while I was writing this, so I tapped the iPhone key, (for me 
> device 3)  did my checking, tapped the computer key, (device 1), and finished 
> writing this in Word on my computer.
> 7.  It has a physical on/off switch located on the back edge and slightly 
> under it.  If you feel where the split is between f6 and f7, and slide your 
> finger straight back, you are on it.  Flipped to the right is on.
> 8.  There is an Applications key after all, it is the second key from the top 
> right most key..  It is easy to toggle between the standard function keys and 
> the media function keys.  I know, I listed this under the cons, but for some 
> it would also be a pro.
>  
> For anyone else who has, or ends up with this keyboard, here is the key 
> layout that involves the missing or extra keys.
>  
> ON the very top row, it is mostly standard, but here goes starting from the 
> top left key:
> Escape
> F1
> f2
> f3
> f4
> f5
> f6
> f7
> f8
> f9
> f10
> f11
> f12
> The Function Toggle
> Print Screen, which is longer than the other keys.
> Device 1
> Device 2
> Devi

Re: Uberconference Call Muting or Unmuting Question Please.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Janet,

No, you can unmute yourself. I was on a meeting the other day where everybody 
was muted and a lot of us I needed ourselves and contributed. So it isn’t 
necessary to wait for the moderator to do it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 8, 2021, at 10:39 AM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone, 
> Can someone please tell me if someone is muted by the moderator during 
> Uberconference call can they unmute themselves, or does the moderator have to 
> be the only one to unmute them? 
> 
> Thank you in advance. 
> 
> Janet  
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
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Re: Accessible flight booking apps

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Tara,

I would agree with SIEGHARD. I recently booked reservations on Expedia and 
found your ad to be very good. I meant their app.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2021, at 2:13 PM, TaraPrakash  wrote:
> 
> Kelly. Thanks for your useless patronizing response. These kind of general 
> advices should be better handled by the admin. Specific flights and general 
> booking apps are more or less global. Besides, this could be an information I 
> was looking for a research project. I appreciate Sieghard for his helpful 
> response. You can save your time by not replying on this thread, I will not 
> read your email again. You may like to save your precious time and some 
> traffic on the list.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2021, at 12:40 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> 
>> Tara,
>> 
>> It is useful when writing to a list to identify the region of the
>> world where you live, as different areas have laws that could be of
>> help or not apply to someone. Similarly, if having an issue with
>> iPhone apps, it is useful to have tried some apps and identified the
>> problems you had when posting a question rather than offering vague
>> generalities about an entire class of apps. This list is global, but
>> advice is often not global.  With which apps have you had problems or
>> difficulty? You referenced an entire class of apps with absolutely no
>> specifics.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On 6/1/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Expedia works well, I have also used a couple of specific airlines apps and
>>> most seem pretty accessible. All of these are free so nothing lost if you
>>> try, Applevis may also have some more detailed eviews.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> TaraPrakash
>>> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2021 4:39 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Accessible flight booking apps
>>> 
>>> Hello all.
>>> I need your input regarding flight booking apps, individual flight apps as
>>> well as  General booking services . These apps need to be  accessible with
>>> The latest iOS.
>>> All your suggestions are appreciated
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent  from my iPhone
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RE: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

[Les Kriegler]

Okay, I got it to work with one command. After invoking  Alexa, I said, Open 
MLB and play the New York Yankees game. That did it. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

What I said, but you probably missed the quotes, so I will use the word quote. 

Tell your Sonos, quote Ask MLB audio to play the Chicago cubs game unquote.

That assumes you have enabled the MLB skill which it sounded like you had.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 





On May 23, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

Does this mean you need to launch an app on your iPhone first. I tried your 
suggestion a while back, as well as today without touching my iPhone. When I 
said “play the Chicago Cubs game” to my Sonos Beam which has Alexa built-in, I 
was given a choice of 5 possible sources to play the game and was asked which I 
wished. I have a sense that this is not what you are suggesting. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

With MLB audio, and an alexa or google device, you can just ask it to "ask mlb 
to play the Chicago Cubs game" in one sentence. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 23, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 

Hi Fred,

Thank you for pointing out the lack of radio feeds. I have encountered other 
problems with this update and had not noticed that omission. I had difficulty 
logging in which was required by the update for all devices used. I received 
error messages after typing in my password. What I did not realize was that 
after typing in the password, you had to choose the Done Button before trying 
to log in. Also, the first game in the schedule does not provide the names of 
the teams. One positive is that VoiceOver no longer speaks information once the 
feed starts playing. One option we have for now is you can play the radio feed 
through the MLB app if you have an Alexa or Google-enabled speaker. You say 
“open MLB.” Then after an introductory message, you say”play and the name of 
the team. Often, in my case, it’s Play the Chicago Cubs. I do find that on my 
Amazon Fire TV, the TV and the cable box both need to be off for this to work. 
This does not substitute for using the MLB TV app, and I will certainly contact 
MLB about this and the other issues I referenced above. Thanks again for 
bringing this to our attention.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

All: The latest update of the Apple TV version of MLB offers no radio feeds. I 
called them this afternoon to ask that they be restored because I often will 
listen to games through my Apple TV  while doing other things with my phone. If 
you have the same concern please call MLB at: 866-800-1275.

Thanks for your support.

 

Fred Olver

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RE: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

[Les Kriegler]

You are right, I missed the quotes. Since the Cubs do not play until this 
evening, (ESPN game), I’ll try it with another team. Definitely sounds like 
this will be easier than what I’ve been doing and it may start the feed more 
quickly. Thanks.

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

What I said, but you probably missed the quotes, so I will use the word quote. 

Tell your Sonos, quote Ask MLB audio to play the Chicago cubs game unquote.

That assumes you have enabled the MLB skill which it sounded like you had.

HTH,

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 23, 2021, at 9:47 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

Does this mean you need to launch an app on your iPhone first. I tried your 
suggestion a while back, as well as today without touching my iPhone. When I 
said “play the Chicago Cubs game” to my Sonos Beam which has Alexa built-in, I 
was given a choice of 5 possible sources to play the game and was asked which I 
wished. I have a sense that this is not what you are suggesting. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

With MLB audio, and an alexa or google device, you can just ask it to "ask mlb 
to play the Chicago Cubs game" in one sentence. 

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 23, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 

Hi Fred,

Thank you for pointing out the lack of radio feeds. I have encountered other 
problems with this update and had not noticed that omission. I had difficulty 
logging in which was required by the update for all devices used. I received 
error messages after typing in my password. What I did not realize was that 
after typing in the password, you had to choose the Done Button before trying 
to log in. Also, the first game in the schedule does not provide the names of 
the teams. One positive is that VoiceOver no longer speaks information once the 
feed starts playing. One option we have for now is you can play the radio feed 
through the MLB app if you have an Alexa or Google-enabled speaker. You say 
“open MLB.” Then after an introductory message, you say”play and the name of 
the team. Often, in my case, it’s Play the Chicago Cubs. I do find that on my 
Amazon Fire TV, the TV and the cable box both need to be off for this to work. 
This does not substitute for using the MLB TV app, and I will certainly contact 
MLB about this and the other issues I referenced above. Thanks again for 
bringing this to our attention.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

All: The latest update of the Apple TV version of MLB offers no radio feeds. I 
called them this afternoon to ask that they be restored because I often will 
listen to games through my Apple TV  while doing other things with my phone. If 
you have the same concern please call MLB at: 866-800-1275.

Thanks for your support.

 

Fred Olver

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RE: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

Does this mean you need to launch an app on your iPhone first. I tried your 
suggestion a while back, as well as today without touching my iPhone. When I 
said “play the Chicago Cubs game” to my Sonos Beam which has Alexa built-in, I 
was given a choice of 5 possible sources to play the game and was asked which I 
wished. I have a sense that this is not what you are suggesting. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

With MLB audio, and an alexa or google device, you can just ask it to "ask mlb 
to play the Chicago Cubs game" in one sentence. 

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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On May 23, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

 

Hi Fred,

Thank you for pointing out the lack of radio feeds. I have encountered other 
problems with this update and had not noticed that omission. I had difficulty 
logging in which was required by the update for all devices used. I received 
error messages after typing in my password. What I did not realize was that 
after typing in the password, you had to choose the Done Button before trying 
to log in. Also, the first game in the schedule does not provide the names of 
the teams. One positive is that VoiceOver no longer speaks information once the 
feed starts playing. One option we have for now is you can play the radio feed 
through the MLB app if you have an Alexa or Google-enabled speaker. You say 
“open MLB.” Then after an introductory message, you say”play and the name of 
the team. Often, in my case, it’s Play the Chicago Cubs. I do find that on my 
Amazon Fire TV, the TV and the cable box both need to be off for this to work. 
This does not substitute for using the MLB TV app, and I will certainly contact 
MLB about this and the other issues I referenced above. Thanks again for 
bringing this to our attention.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

All: The latest update of the Apple TV version of MLB offers no radio feeds. I 
called them this afternoon to ask that they be restored because I often will 
listen to games through my Apple TV  while doing other things with my phone. If 
you have the same concern please call MLB at: 866-800-1275.

Thanks for your support.

 

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RE: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Fred,

Thank you for pointing out the lack of radio feeds. I have encountered other 
problems with this update and had not noticed that omission. I had difficulty 
logging in which was required by the update for all devices used. I received 
error messages after typing in my password. What I did not realize was that 
after typing in the password, you had to choose the Done Button before trying 
to log in. Also, the first game in the schedule does not provide the names of 
the teams. One positive is that VoiceOver no longer speaks information once the 
feed starts playing. One option we have for now is you can play the radio feed 
through the MLB app if you have an Alexa or Google-enabled speaker. You say 
“open MLB.” Then after an introductory message, you say”play and the name of 
the team. Often, in my case, it’s Play the Chicago Cubs. I do find that on my 
Amazon Fire TV, the TV and the cable box both need to be off for this to work. 
This does not substitute for using the MLB TV app, and I will certainly contact 
MLB about this and the other issues I referenced above. Thanks again for 
bringing this to our attention.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Updated MLB TV app offers no radio feed access.

 

All: The latest update of the Apple TV version of MLB offers no radio feeds. I 
called them this afternoon to ask that they be restored because I often will 
listen to games through my Apple TV  while doing other things with my phone. If 
you have the same concern please call MLB at: 866-800-1275.

Thanks for your support.

 

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Re: Cash App

[Les Kriegler]

In the U.S, it is $25. Well worth the price in my Pinyan if you wish to 
identify multiple currencies.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2021, at 11:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> The difference is that one is a dedicated currency recognition app which can 
> do hundreds of currencies and apart from spoken feedback also offers feedback 
> via vibrations and the other, Seeing AI, is an app which among quite a few 
> other things can recognize a few of the major currencies of this world such 
> as USD, CAD, Euro etc.
> Another difference is that Seeing AI is free to use because Microsoft is 
> behind it with their hundreds of Billions of Dollars in revenues and a 
> project like Seeing AI is probably a tax write-off for them and 
> Cash Reader is quite expensive as apps go, not sure about US price, but based 
> on the Canadian price I assume it maybe $19.99 US. But it does get quite 
> frequent updates when more currencies are added or existing ones are updated 
> as governments change the design of their bills. Cash Reader is extremely 
> powerful and especially if you don't set it to automatically recognize the 
> currency which means it compares whichever banknote you have with over 600 
> banknotes in its database, it is very fast and accurate and often needs to 
> see only a portion of the bill. I have mine set to Canadian dollars and it 
> makes no different if the bill is folded or not or which quarter of a folded 
> bill I show to the app.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2021 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Cash App
>  
> What is the difference between cash reader and Seeing AI's currency reader? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Michael Irons  wrote:
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> I looked up cash reader in the App Store. It is free for a period of time 
> and, then, they want you to buy it. It is probably worth mine if you need to 
> deal with a lot of different currencies.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 8:45 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it is cash reader.
> Sorry about that, I thought it was called cash app.
>  
>  
> 
> On May 13, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> They may be talking about cash reader?
>  
> Jenn
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Noe Villeda  wrote:
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> 
> Hello all,
>  
> I just upgraded cell phones, and I can’t figure out how to reinstate my cash 
> app subscription.  I bought the lifetime version, but when I go to settings, 
> and try to restore the subscription, nothing happens.
>  
> I’d appreciate any suggestions, as I found out that eye note does not read 
> with I O S 14.5.1.
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Re: TeleMed.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Jenny,

How are you doing? Yes, it would be an app you would put on your iPhone. I have 
used something called virtual visits and that is very accessible. I do think it 
depends on what your provider uses. I have not had experience with Tele med, 
but I would hope it would be accessible to you.

Sent from my iPhone

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> I am presuming this is an app that people put on their iPhones? Because my 
> neurologist asked if I wanted to physically come in or do the TeleMed will 
> you do it through your iPhone and is this accessible? Because the nurse said 
> I would need visual assistance you know like to help where we type in my name 
> in so that way there’s something else that Hass to be typed in but I don’t 
> remember what it is.
> 
> Thanks for your prompt attention!
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RE: Bank of America App

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Debbie,

I went to the App Store. The app you want is Bank of America, Mobile Banking. 
There is another Bank of America app related to finance and another called B of 
A also related to finance. Is it possible that the wrong app was downloaded? 
The problems you describe are so different from the Mobile App. Anyway, just be 
certain to download the correct app.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bank of America App

 

Thank you Les.

 

Perhaps it’s the iPhone 8 that is the problem. 

 

Actually it was my husband’s phone that we were trying to do this on so I’ll 
see if he wants to work on it again! 

 

I don’t remember which tab we went into but we were looking at alerts to see 
about modifying those and that is where we couldn’t find a back button nor a 
button to sign out and the tabs on the bottom were not the same as on the home 
screen. 

 

Maybe I’ll put the app on my phone which is also an iPhone 8 and work with it 
some more.

 

Thanks again!

 

Debbie 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bank of America App

 

Hi Debbie,

I have been using this app for many years and find it quite accessible. 

Currently, I am running it with my iPhone 12 Mini and IOS 14.5. I do not find a 
back button on the screen, but really do not need it. Let me provide a few 
suggestions to get you started. First, the tabs you want are on the lower right 
corner of the screen. By default, the accounts available to you should appear 
first. You can single finger double tap to activate any of them. Along the 
bottom right corner are a list of tabs. They include accounts, transfers and 
bill pay. Just double tap any of them to activate them. There is an electronic 
assistant called Erica. She can assist in paying bills, transferring money and 
many other tasks. You don’t have to use her, I find I do sometimes, and other 
times, I use the app’s facilities to do what I want. Finally, on most screens, 
there is a sign out button. Again, just double tap to activate and confirm you 
wish to sign out. Swiping from left to right should help you once you activate 
the feature you wish to use. I would be happy to assist further if you wish, 
but this should get you going.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Bank of America App

 

Hello,

 

I’ve downloaded the bank of America app to my iPhone 8 with the latest IOS 
update and find that it is not very accessible. 

 

I received a verification code which I entered but then it was very difficult 
to find a continue button. I actually called AIRA and they were able to help me 
find it using another iPhone to check the screen. There were 2 buttons which 
were not labeled so that I could say whether I wanted the device to be 
remembered and AIRA had to tell me which button was which; yes or no.  

 

Okay, so I got logged in and selected one of the tabs on the bottom just to 
check out what was in there and then I couldn’t find a back button and the Z 
scrub didn’t work. I couldn’t even sign out of the app so I just closed out of 
the app and will wait for the session to time out to log me out.

 

Does anyone have any work arounds for this app or am I doing something wrong? 
Is it just not accessible? Maybe it’s slightly usable?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: Bank of America App

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Debbie,

I do this so often I did not even think about this. If you touch the upper left 
corner of the screen, there is an item called Go Back to Previous Screen. You 
can also swipe left and find this, it is the first item on any given page. 
Also, sometimes, it’s helpful to use Explore by Touch. You do this by touching 
in the middle of the screen if you get stuck and cannot swipe anywhere. I 
wonder if possibly the app did not install properly on your husband’s phone? It 
can happen. Let me know if I can assist further.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bank of America App

 

Thank you Les.

 

Perhaps it’s the iPhone 8 that is the problem. 

 

Actually it was my husband’s phone that we were trying to do this on so I’ll 
see if he wants to work on it again! 

 

I don’t remember which tab we went into but we were looking at alerts to see 
about modifying those and that is where we couldn’t find a back button nor a 
button to sign out and the tabs on the bottom were not the same as on the home 
screen. 

 

Maybe I’ll put the app on my phone which is also an iPhone 8 and work with it 
some more.

 

Thanks again!

 

Debbie 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 12:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Bank of America App

 

Hi Debbie,

I have been using this app for many years and find it quite accessible. 

Currently, I am running it with my iPhone 12 Mini and IOS 14.5. I do not find a 
back button on the screen, but really do not need it. Let me provide a few 
suggestions to get you started. First, the tabs you want are on the lower right 
corner of the screen. By default, the accounts available to you should appear 
first. You can single finger double tap to activate any of them. Along the 
bottom right corner are a list of tabs. They include accounts, transfers and 
bill pay. Just double tap any of them to activate them. There is an electronic 
assistant called Erica. She can assist in paying bills, transferring money and 
many other tasks. You don’t have to use her, I find I do sometimes, and other 
times, I use the app’s facilities to do what I want. Finally, on most screens, 
there is a sign out button. Again, just double tap to activate and confirm you 
wish to sign out. Swiping from left to right should help you once you activate 
the feature you wish to use. I would be happy to assist further if you wish, 
but this should get you going.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Bank of America App

 

Hello,

 

I’ve downloaded the bank of America app to my iPhone 8 with the latest IOS 
update and find that it is not very accessible. 

 

I received a verification code which I entered but then it was very difficult 
to find a continue button. I actually called AIRA and they were able to help me 
find it using another iPhone to check the screen. There were 2 buttons which 
were not labeled so that I could say whether I wanted the device to be 
remembered and AIRA had to tell me which button was which; yes or no.  

 

Okay, so I got logged in and selected one of the tabs on the bottom just to 
check out what was in there and then I couldn’t find a back button and the Z 
scrub didn’t work. I couldn’t even sign out of the app so I just closed out of 
the app and will wait for the session to time out to log me out.

 

Does anyone have any work arounds for this app or am I doing something wrong? 
Is it just not accessible? Maybe it’s slightly usable?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: Bank of America App

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Debbie,

I have been using this app for many years and find it quite accessible. 

Currently, I am running it with my iPhone 12 Mini and IOS 14.5. I do not find a 
back button on the screen, but really do not need it. Let me provide a few 
suggestions to get you started. First, the tabs you want are on the lower right 
corner of the screen. By default, the accounts available to you should appear 
first. You can single finger double tap to activate any of them. Along the 
bottom right corner are a list of tabs. They include accounts, transfers and 
bill pay. Just double tap any of them to activate them. There is an electronic 
assistant called Erica. She can assist in paying bills, transferring money and 
many other tasks. You don’t have to use her, I find I do sometimes, and other 
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there is a sign out button. Again, just double tap to activate and confirm you 
wish to sign out. Swiping from left to right should help you once you activate 
the feature you wish to use. I would be happy to assist further if you wish, 
but this should get you going.

Best Regards,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debbie 
Downey
Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 11:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bank of America App

 

Hello,

 

I’ve downloaded the bank of America app to my iPhone 8 with the latest IOS 
update and find that it is not very accessible. 

 

I received a verification code which I entered but then it was very difficult 
to find a continue button. I actually called AIRA and they were able to help me 
find it using another iPhone to check the screen. There were 2 buttons which 
were not labeled so that I could say whether I wanted the device to be 
remembered and AIRA had to tell me which button was which; yes or no.  

 

Okay, so I got logged in and selected one of the tabs on the bottom just to 
check out what was in there and then I couldn’t find a back button and the Z 
scrub didn’t work. I couldn’t even sign out of the app so I just closed out of 
the app and will wait for the session to time out to log me out.

 

Does anyone have any work arounds for this app or am I doing something wrong? 
Is it just not accessible? Maybe it’s slightly usable?

 

Thanks!

 

Debbie

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RE: how to listen to major league games from a previous day

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Paul,

Great catch. I had no idea the radio broadcasts are archived. As you listened 
to the Cubs game, I hope you are a fan of the team.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: 'Paul D'Addario' via VIPhone  
Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games from a previous day

 

yes, it is possible.

Below is what I did today:

i double tapped on the MLB audio  tab 

there is a button : previous day 

I double tapped and screen displayed previous day games.

I double tapped on pirates vs. cubs and the broadcast of yesterday's game began 
, from the beginning 

There were  buttons to select games from other dates as well.

hope this helps.

-Paul

On Apr 4, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

If you miss a game can you go back and listen to it?

 

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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:31 PM
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Subject: RE: how to listen to major league games

 

Hi Sandy,

It works. I often listen to games via the Alexa skill.

Best,

 

Les

 

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Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:59 AM
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Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

 

It used to be possible to listen to Major League games via the Amazon Echo’s 
MLB Skill. Last year it never worked and I have no idea if it is back on track 
this year. I would test it out and let you know but I am out of town for a week 
with no access to our Echos.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Apr 2, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a great 
deal. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/> 

 

 

On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:32 PM, Dean Martineau mailto:top...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Now that the TuneIn option has been gone for a while, is the MLB app the only 
way to pay and listen to the games?  Does anybody know any station, for any 
team, that chooses to stream games openly?

 

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RE: how to listen to major league games

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Sandy,

It works. I often listen to games via the Alexa skill.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandy 
Finley
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

 

It used to be possible to listen to Major League games via the Amazon Echo’s 
MLB Skill. Last year it never worked and I have no idea if it is back on track 
this year. I would test it out and let you know but I am out of town for a week 
with no access to our Echos.

Sent from my iPhone





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 MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a great 
deal. 

 

 

Richard 

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people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

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Now that the TuneIn option has been gone for a while, is the MLB app the only 
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RE: how to listen to major league games

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

The price went up this year to $129.99. MLB is trying to recoup lost revenue.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to listen to major league games

 

That TMobile ads is for MLB TV, so you get access to all the TV broadcasts as 
well as the radio.  Regular price I think for that is around $120 per year.

But, you can get MLB audio, for just the radio broadcast and the occasional 
“Game Of The Day” that includes the TV for $20 per year.

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fred 
Olver
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 4:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

 

If one is a t-mobile user, they can get MLB for zero dollars this week. 

 

Fred Olver

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Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 9:43 PM

Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

 

MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a great 
deal. 

 

 

Richard 

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RE: how to listen to major league games

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Tom and Interested Others,

I recently received an e-mail from Sirius XM which stated that MLB games will 
only be available to those who have the All Access package. This takes effect 
as of April 14.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to listen to major league games

 

And, of course, Siris-XM carries all audio broadcasts of MLB.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to listen to major league games

 

MLB audio is the only way I know of, and for about $20 per year it is a great 
deal. 

 

 

Richard 

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

 

www.turner42.com

 

 

On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:32 PM, Dean Martineau  wrote:

 

Now that the TuneIn option has been gone for a while, is the MLB app the only 
way to pay and listen to the games?  Does anybody know any station, for any 
team, that chooses to stream games openly?

 

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RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

[Les Kriegler]

Yes, someone could walk up behind you and brab them. I would never wear them 
when walking around. I would also be careful even when sitting down in a public 
place. Perhaps I will feel differently after a while, but I would rather error 
on the side of caution as they say.
Best,

Les

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I would be afraid that someone would steel them.



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From: Mich Verrier
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 3:16 AM
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public when active outside

Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.

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Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
when active outside

Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening to 
Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of person.

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RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, yes I get the sounds. No, I don’t have to switch off and back on the 
Bluetooth setting on my phone. It just works as it should.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, I probably have that resource somewhere, but send it along anyway with the 
answer to one more question before I try the PC pairing. 

Do you get all the computer sound, Jaws and system over the Max? That is what I 
would want.

Do you have to turn off bluetooth on the computer to switch back to the phone?

O well that was two questions. Ha, ha.

 

Richard

 

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Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 




 






On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

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realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Richard, that’s more than I got, but I could have missed the sounds. BTW, my 
iPhone was in an adjoining room when I paired the Max to my PC, and they paired 
the first time today. I believe the reset made the difference. That was an 
unexpected pleasant surprise.

Best,

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Also Les, et al, There was no message about them disconnecting, I just knew by 
the fact that the sound came out of the iPhone for a few seconds. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 28, 2021, at 2:32 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 




 






On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aid

RE: More obsessing over Airpods Max

[Les Kriegler]

Virtually any piece of equipment I have purchased has required initial 
configuration and setup. This is no different in my opinion. I believe I will 
keep my Pods, I certainly have some time to continue to evaluate these, but at 
this point, I am optimistic.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More obsessing over Airpods Max

 

I’m also not sure how someone could conclude that the Airpod Pro’s are so much 
easier to work with without actually having experience with both products. I 
have the Airpod Pro’s myself, and I’m tempted by the Airpod Maxes, so I’m 
paying attention to these threads. Most of what I’m hearing seems to be around 
connectivity issues, and I wouldn’t think these would be fundamentally 
different between the Pros and the Maxes. Although my Pros have been great, 
I’ve had the occasional issue pairing them to my iPhone and my PC. I’ve always 
been able to resolve any issue I’ve encountered though. I wouldn’t hesitate to 
buy a pair of Maxes based on what I’ve read on this list to this point. I’m not 
sure they’re for me though, since I’m not sure I can justify the price, 
especially since I already have the Pros. I haven’t really seen a convincing 
use case where I would see myself grabbing the Maxes enough to justify the 
cost. This is just my own personal subjective opinion though.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 5:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More obsessing over Airpods Max

 

Well Simon, if you make up your mind based on a handful of reports of 
difficulty with a new product then you may find you cut yourself out of a 
possitive experience. 

Some of the issues, at least for me, were user error.

But, given the cost in NZ, I certinly would not buy them without an absolute 
guarantee that I could get a full refund.

But don't judge them by a few people's troubles.

I've had far less issues with these than with some computers that cost twice as 
much, etc.

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 

 

 

On Mar 28, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Simon A Fogarty mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote:

 

Hi folks,

 

I’m just wondering about these troubles some of you seem to be having with the 
airpods max,

 

I know that some have just received them for the first time,

 

But for me,

The troubles you guys are mentioning here 

Don’t fill me with confidence 

If I wanted to purchase such a costly product to find it’s not going to work 
properly.

 

The airpods pro just seem to be so much easier to work with.

 

At least mine have worked fine up til now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
deidreandlou...@gmail.com <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 29 March 2021 1:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: More obsessing over Airpods Max

 

   Good job Richard. It was good to hear your voice for the first 
time.

 

Deidre

 

On Mar 27, 2021, at 16:34, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I put up a kind of dumb, but hopefully helpful, short sample recording to help 
folks hear what the Airpods Max sound like if you are on a call or recording.

www.turner42.com/JPR.mp3 
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RE: Airpods max observations

[Les Kriegler]

Well, resetting my Air Pods Max has helped. I did have to remove and re-pair my 
Pods. What is different now is that when I switch the Sound Source on my PC to 
the Pods, they switch over immediately. That was not the case before. Things 
are humming along well now. Thanks Richard.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 10:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Airpods max observations

 

That sounds like somehow you got the sample of spatial audio started.

If oddities like that happen again, try the reset by holding the digital crown 
and the noise cancelation buttons down for several seconds until it reboots, 
and it will disconnect from the phone temporarily until it comes up again.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Amy Ruell
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 3:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Airpods max observations

 

Hello,

Just started using my AirPods Max seriously yesterday. I have had some 
interesting anomalies. First of all, when I installed the latest update on the 
phone, I had the headphones on. When the phone re-started, the headphones did 
not automatically connect. That was not a surprise. However, when I unlocked 
and logged back in with my passcode, music began playing on the pods. This 
sometimes will happen if the two-finger double tap is misinterpreted by the 
phone. However, I made sure the music app was not open, removed the headphones 
from my ears to break the connection, but the music continued to play. I shut 
down the phone completely but the music continued to play. I was finally able 
to get it to stop after re-starting the phone twice. That is odd to me.

 

Amy

 

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RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I know what you mean about trying to keep track of e-mails! Well, I decided to 
reset my Air Pods. The one thing I did notice was that I did not hear any 
message about them being disconnected. These anomalies make me wonder if I have 
a problem or not. My experience as of late with Apple seems to depend on who 
you reach. They are working well, though. By the way, I took a look at the Air 
Pods support page where they did discuss how to reset the Air Pods. Would you 
like me to send you the direct link, or do you have it already?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Les,  

I've lost track of what emails I answered and which I didn't.

A hard reset did the trick.

And, I too had to work at getting them connected, but I think that was user 
error on my part.

Holding the digital crown and noise cancelation buttons down for severl seconds 
reset them and they have worked great all day.

So far, about 11 hours on the first full charge and they are around 50% charged 
still.

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 27, 2021, at 8:09 AM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

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realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

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Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

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living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

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Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering backgro

Re: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

What I did was turn off the iPhone. It may have worked with the iPhone on, but 
I wasn’t certain so I thought it would be safer for the power the iPhone down.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 12:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Les, how did you get the PC to see them?
>  
> Did you disconnect them from the phone?
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 1:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC
>  
> Yes, I know what you mean. I did finally connect them. Microsoft could not 
> help me, but another Apple rep not in accessibility did. I had to go down to 
> my headphones in System Tray and open that, and then the Air Pods were 
> recognized. Again, the major use with these will be for Apple products, 
> that’s really what they were meant for. Thanks.
> Best Regards,
>  
> Les
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Deb 
> Cook Lewis
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 3:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC
>  
> I was successful in connecting them, but like most Bluetooth devices, they 
> really don’t work well in windows at all. It’s windows. My experience was 
> similar with other Bluetooth headphones.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 11:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Connecting Airpods Max to a PC
>  
> Hi All,
> I received my AirPods last night. They are working fine with my iPhone. I am 
> having problems connecting them to my PC. I powered off my iPhone to make 
> certain there was not a conflict. I called Apple Accessibility and we 
> eventually got them connected, but no sound comes from them when running Jaws 
> on my Pc. I’m not certain they are really connected, as they seem to 
> vacillate between connecting and connected. I looked in Sound Settings and do 
> not see them listed there. Has anyone been successful in using these with a 
> PC? I will also contact Microsoft Accessibility to see what they have to say. 
> A little disappointed thus far with this issue, but I do expect it will be 
> resolved. After all, they are Bluetooth headphones. I really want to use 
> these with Zoom on my Surface Pro 5. Thanks for any assistance.
> Best Regards,
>  
> Les
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RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I’d be interested to hear what you find out. I’ve wondered about my pair, as it 
was not as seamless to connect to my iPhone as I thought it would be. Also, I 
had a lot of difficulty connecting the Pods to my PC. However, everything is 
working well, so I guess I will continue to monitor the performance of the 
Pods. So please share what you learn from Apple. Thanks.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

That’s OK Les, I’m glad that worked for you, but I’m trying to scope out if I 
have a defective set.

I don’t think any mic should be live when in noise cancelation mode.

I’ll be calling apple today.

 

 

 

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 

 

 

On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Richard,

I did play some music which came through the Air Pods Max and my hearing aids. 
With Noise Cancellation on, I did hear on occasion certain instruments coming 
through my right ear. It was quite an experience, as I got an extra sound boost 
from my aids. This means that I can certainly lower the volume on the Pods 
which should assist in additional battery life. I appreciate your question, as 
I now know I can use both devices without difficulty.

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Les, one question for you since you have them. 

Do you notice when you have noise cancelation on, that the right ear still 
allows sound through those microphones? Granted, it is much lower than on 
transparency mode, but it seems odd to me.

I'm just wondering if this is normal.

Thanks,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:04 PM, Les Kriegler mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Richard,

I am very impressed with the Air Pods Max as well. I am also surprised how 
sturdy and solid these are. We had unusually warm weather today. It was close 
to 80 degrees here, so I went out on our porch, put them on and listened to the 
Cubs baseball game for a while. Then I received a phone call. The person on the 
other end told me how clear my voice was. I had no difficulty hearing him as 
well. I did not purchase the cable. I do have the pods working via Bluetooth on 
my PC. I have to switch the sound source to them when I wish to use them on my 
PC. I was informed I could use my voice to switch sound output, so I will check 
that out. I still have set up to do for our Apple Tv’s, but that should proceed 
without difficulty. They are expensive, but like you, I used a portion of our 
Stimulus check to get them, except I am paying them off over six equal payments 
on my Apple Card, as well as getting 3 percent of the purchase price back. Not 
a lot, but everything helps!

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2021 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting them 
on.

Yes, they are warm.  It will be interesting when the warm weather hits how much 
I'll want to have them on.

 

But, if you want amazingly good sound, that kind of just works with Apple, they 
are fabulous!

 

One thing I am very pleased about is what they call Transparency Mode.  

There are 6 microphones on the outside of the headphones.  While you are 
listening over Bluetooth to your Apple device, if you turn on Transparency 
mode, those microphones allow you to hear the outside world without diminishing 
the sound quality of whatever you are listening to.  Unlike other things I have 
had that tried to do that, the sound is in stereo.  So, if someone speaks to 
you from your left side, you hear it on your left side.

 

Those microphones are used to assist with the noise cancelation mode so it can 
tell what the outside noise is and counteract it.  So, when Noise Cancelation 
is on, the world is pretty much blocked out.

 

I have some Sonos speakers on my desk a

RE: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Mary,

I certainly agree with your statements. I have not experienced spatial audio 
yet, but I do look forward to experiencing it. I will try it with Hulu. I 
wonder if Dizney Plus has it?

Best,

 

Les

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 12:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Airpods Max, review after a few hours

 

Well, of course Apple TV stuff has it. And I believe I saw where Hulu has it. I 
should go double check, because I know there’s at least one other service that 
has it. I heard it the little sample when you go in for the AirPods Pro, you 
can just hear a little sample of what it sounds like. And it’s very impressive. 
So I’m thinking that if it gets adopted on a wider scale, it could be quite 
awesome. Of course maybe competing services won’t go for it, but why not?

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Do you know of some programs that have the spacial audio? I am very 
interested in hearing that. 

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 8:12 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi richard,

Well, I don’t like things in Myers either. I hesitated a lot before buying the 
AirPods Pro. But I did buy them, and they are amazing for what they are. I 
don’t have issues with them in my ears. They stay. They have a nice wide 
soundstage. And they have spacial audio which, if others would get on board 
with it would be awesome.

Mary

 

 

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On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:43 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 Hi Mary, 

No, I never bought the Airpods. I do not like things in my ears. I will use the 
wired earphones that come with iPhones, but I prefer headphones that go over 
the ear.

The ear cups on these are big enough that they fit over my ears so that they 
sit on the side of my head without touching my ears.

I guess that is why when the noise cancelation is on, you are really in your 
own little world.

I decided to designate some of UNCLE Sam's gift toward these.

O, and the bluetooth lag while I am writing this with MBraille is not 
noticeable. 

Later,

 

Richard

 

"Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24-  

"I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of the 
things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do it 
every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 



 





On Mar 26, 2021, at 6:20 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting, richard. I really want these, but the price is out of my range, 
seeing as how my husband is retiring in a couple of months and won’t be getting 
Social Security for another year. So I’ll wait for a sale. Smile. Do you have 
AirPods Pro? I ask because I do have those, and I’ve been very impressed with 
spacial audio, but it’s not available very many places. I think if it catches 
on, the AirPods Max could be absolutely stunning.

 

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On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

I received the Airpods Max today and unboxed them and was surprised how very 
sturdy and solid they feel.  I know, I've heard about them, but holding them in 
your hands for the first time, everything about them screams quality!

 

Now, everything I have read about the "smart case" which some people call the 
"smart pouch", and I have heard some say "Smart Bra"; but I would go with 
pouch.  I don't know if they changed the material, but the descriptions I had 
heard made me think I was going to have a mesh kind of thing that was kind of 
stretchy like the afore mention article of women's clothing.  However, this one 
feels like polyurethane, or even silicon.  My wife says it still looks odd, and 
with the headphones in it, more like a purse, but it appears to be quite 
sturdy.  I gather it has no charge of its own, it just tells the headphones to 
go into a deep sleep…

 

Now, as for the headphones themselves…

I am quite seriously impressed!  Yes, they are heavier than the average 
headphones but so well designed you don't notice that much after putting