Re: Update to Seeing AI now available.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Seeing AI does not describe people in the same level as Be My AI does but it is 
still an outstanding app.

In my opinion SuperSense’s document mode is the best at the moment, it guides 
you on placing your phone with instructions like:  Move forward, back, left, 
right, nearer and away so you get the document correctly in the view of the 
camera.  Not all edges are visible is not all that helpful in placing your 
phone correctly.

Yes I know SuperSense is expensive but as I already have a lifetime license it 
makes sense to use it.  Whether it is worth the money is a matter of opinion.  
Many apps now have a similar feature set and all have their strengths.  Having 
all the free ones gives us choice and that is all to the good.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 6 Apr 2024, at 6:08 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> I use Seeing AI quite a bit. I very much like the fact that it has been 
> free. I use it a lot to identify my paper money. It also helps me read my 
> packages that I have frozen food in. I find the app, quite useful and hope 
> that more people would get into using it. I have use the part about looking 
> at photos a little bit, I find that part of it very useful.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 6, 2024, at 12:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> The Seeing Ai app continues to add new and useful features and in my 
>> opinion is still one of the best apps for any sort of OCR, currency 
>> recognition and so on. The fact that it is free of course is also a bonus 
>> and I only this morning tried the "Browse Photos" feature and it's much 
>> better than what you can do with Be My AI where at least to my knowledge you 
>> have to work from the Photos app, open each picture, tap share and send it 
>> to Be My AI for recognition. In the Seeing AI app you can give access to 
>> your photos library and as you open a picture you get a brief description, 
>> you can then tap on More Info and hear more. You can even delete pictures 
>> from the Seeing AI app although I find you may have to back out of the 
>> Browse Photos feature and go back in before the picture disappears from the 
>> list of pictures. Anyways, very nice and I definitely plan to try more of 
>> the new features like finding items/objects and also to try the Indoor 
>> Navigation feature which allows you to put down something like bread crumbs 
>> which you can then save as a route and follow.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2024 3:04 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Update to Seeing AI now available.
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> An update to Seeing AI is available in the App Store, here’s what it says 
>> about the update.
>> 
>> • Find My Things - This new feature, available via the World channel on 
>> devices running iOS 14+, enables you to teach Seeing AI to recognize your 
>> personal objects. Most AI systems focus on large datasets of generic 
>> objects, so we built this system that provides an audio-first experience to 
>> teach new objects yourself. You can then follow the audio cues to locate 
>> your things. • Ask questions about photos (English only) - You can now ask 
>> Seeing AI questions about photos on the Scene channel, in Browse Photos, or 
>> those shared from another app. For example, after hearing the rich 
>> description, you may wish to hear more about a specific aspect of the image. 
>> • Rich image descriptions, when you tap "More Info", have been improved to 
>> include even more details. Additionally, the names of people you have taught 
>> Seeing AI to identify are now included. And, this is now available in all 19 
>> languages in which Seeing AI is localized. • Handwriting recognition is now 
>> also available in Japanese and Korean. • Document orientation - After 
>> scanning a document, you can find out which way round it is - useful when 
>> organizing multiple pages for stapling, for example. Tap "More", then "Page 
>> Info". • Plus, various bug fixes under the hood.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: latest updates from supersense

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have recently tried the scan text feature and it really works well.  When you 
scan a document you get a summary and a description of what the document is 
before the document itself which is really useful.

One thing that sets SuperSense appart in my view is its guidance when scanning 
documents.  Telling the user that not all edges are visible is not really too 
helpful.  SuperSense on the other hand advises you how to move your device to 
get all the text in the camera’s frame.

I know that we’ve quite rightly been critical of this app in the past, but 
credit where it is due they’ve really made some improvements in recent months.  
Whether the price is worth paying is debatable but they deserve credit for 
recent developments.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 29 Mar 2024, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi merv,
> Well, the AI is new.  Finally a feature that is very good.  I just tried the 
> Barcode channel on a couple things that got excellent results.
> I will play with the AI for scanned text later.  
> BTW, they already have a subscription option, so I very much doubt they will 
> change the over priced one-time charge...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: latest updates from supersense
> 
> I was playing with the AI last night and this morning. While I have not used 
> this app much recently so I honestly do not remember if it always had AI in 
> the title as it does now, the feature that allows the individual to scan a 
> barcode, then ask questions based on the description works pretty well.
> I would still like to see a few more improvements. As long as they don’t 
> change to an annual subscription for those of us who purchased the lifetime 
> subscription.
> Merv
> 
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2024, at 10:18 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> enjoy these wonderful updates lol
>> 
>> Hello, We've received many requests from our users and are responding to 
>> them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
>> announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Minor bug fixes 
>> about translate language screen More exciting news and features are on the 
>> way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the 
>> best solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by 
>> sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone 15  Pro Max
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Re: Jonathan Mosens take on the VoiceDream issue

[Malcolm Parfitt]

It appears to me that what ever the rights, wrongs and merits of the new 
pricing structure are the choice is simple, subscribe or don’t.

I doubt very much that the  creators of the app in question monitor this list 
so all we are doing is arguing amongst ourselves.

It is well worth noting that software is often licensed and not sold.  I have 
an Apple Music subscription and as long as that is active I can play any music 
in their catalogue.  They may increase the price of the subscription at any 
time.  If I choose to terminate my subscription I am no longer able to play 
their music even if it has been downloaded to my device.

Apps have changed to a subscription model before or added in app purchases so 
this is nothing new or unscrupulous.

Pay your money and make your choice.  No one is holding you to ransom.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Mar 2024, at 9:16 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Applause Group

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Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Perfectly correct, but that would not be apparent from the status bar.  So you 
would have to suspect a problem with your setup to go into Settings.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 15 Mar 2024, at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> For Wi-Fi connection you can see status in settings under Wi-Fi for the 
> connected router. Like below
> 
> Group TP-LINK_Power Strip_8089, No Internet Connection, Unsecure network, 
> Signal strength 3 of 3 bars rows 1 to 8 of 9 Top of screen, Settings
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:43 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in 
>> Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me 
>> if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've 
>> got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? 
>> I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or 
>> Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.
>> So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and 
>> everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it 
>> does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether 
>> the INternet is connected, when I know it is!
>> So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the 
>> Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's 
>> VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?
>> So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with 
>> online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if 
>> the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does 
>> show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal 
>> here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it 
>> shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); 
>> something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.
>> Thanks for any info.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

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No problem my friend, never will be.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:48 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Sorry Malcolm, I misunderstood youSent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:43, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from ha

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

That is exactly my point.  You may have connectivity to your router but if that has no connection to the outside world then you will only be able to access local resources via that gateway.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 11:37 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:Malcolm, in my experience, this is not always reliable, just because you have a WiFi connection to the router doesn’t necessarily mean your router is connected to the internet.Sent from my iPhoneOn 14 Mar 2024, at 23:27, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com<viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show

Re: Internet's conectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Not sure of your exact setup but here in the UK I currently have EE-Hub-F4c5 , 3 of 3 Wi-Fi bars on my status.  This  means that I have good connectivity to my router.  If the connection between the outside world and my router was to be interrupted I would still have the same status reported but my iPhone would not be able to access data and services via that gateway.My iPhone would then fall back to using what we call mobile data to access facilities outside of my local network.So I would have a 4G signal reported as Mobile Service 1 of 4 bars, signal strength.So if my router lost connection to the outside world I would then use my data allowance from my provider IDmobile currently with a 7GB allowance.Malcolm ParfittOn 14 Mar 2024, at 9:23 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:Hi Debbie, I can still see the status bar at the top of my iPhone 14. No problem.
On Mar 14, 2024, at 8:34 AM, Debby Hill  wrote:I thought in the past that the status bar did show when you are connected to the internet, but I must be dreaming. Now when I have internet connectivity problems I go to settings and wifi like Richard. If you are not connected to the internet it will show there. I have not had the problem that Richard is having. But it would be nice if the internet status was on the status bar. Debby-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I have had the same issue with my 13 pro.In fact, it was an expensive issue in January when I did an update over 6 GB only to find that even though the status bar said 3 of 3 wi-fi bars, it was downloading over cellular.  We share 1 GB per month...I have since left cellular data turned off and made sure that all the individual apps show cellular off, so when I find the status bar says I have wi-fi, but I really don't, I get the message that cellular is turned off for such and such an app.Then, I open settings, and Wi-fi will show my home network, and only rarely say not connected, but if I turn wi-fi off, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and have it reconnect to my home network, then it is connected.Apple ran a diagnostic on my iPhone remotely and nothing showed up as a problem.  But, the really strange thing is my wife's wi-fi only iPad and my wi-fi only iPad don't ever seem to have this issue, neither do our laptops that are only connected via wi-fi.It is annoying, but I can usually work around it with the turning wi-fi off then back on approach.I'm not ready to buy a new phone over this yet.  When I am out and about and want cellular data access I will turn it on for however long I need it and then turn it off again to avoid maxing out our data limit.  We only pay about $16 per month for our phone service which is why we leave it at the 1GB shared data.Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you."-- Wolfgang Von Goethe My web site: https://www.turner42.com/Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo CorripioSent: Thursday, March 14, 2024 5:44 AMTo: iPhone List Subject: Internet's connectivity status on IPHone's Status Bar?I've been several days without Internet from my cable company here in Mexico, and so whenever I call Izzi Telecom's TEch Support line, they ask me if on the IPhone's Status Bar (at the very top of the screen where you've got the Battery info, Time…), if it says if I've got Internet or not, right? I do see the 3 of 3 bars of Izzi $C5C showing, but when I go into Youtube or Safari, or access Facebook or such, I'm unable to navigate.So I found this curious, and once at my MOm's, where I've got Internet and everything's working as it should, I checked the Status Bar AGain, and it does show my MOm's Internet of Telmex so-and-so, but it doesn't show whether the INternet is connected, when I know it is!So all this brings me to wondering what's the deal with this? Does the Internet-connected Icon show up on the Status BAr for the sighted, but it's VoiceOver's fault that this icon isn't recognized or seen?So what other way (apart from having to actually go in and try working with online content, is it possible for us VoiceOver users, to see at a glance if the Internet is connected or not? As mentioned before, the Status bar does show the Wifi signal itself, but the Internet's availability is the deal here. For instance, on Windows 7 and 10, on the STatus bar (Insert+F11) it shows if the Internet is connected or not (aside from the WiFi name); something like this is what I'm looking for in iOS.Thanks for any info.GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a 

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Re: the books app that comes on an iphone

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Richard, you may be interested to know that today  in 1978 The first radio episode of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, by Douglas Adams, was transmitted on BBC Radio 4.Malcolm ParfittOn 8 Mar 2024, at 3:09 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated the User guide in the Books app to the current one and it reads fine.Two thoughts.I always check to make sure that screen recognition is not on.Then, try rebooting the phone after closing all apps out of the app switcher. HTH, Richard, USA"At the moment of commitment, the universe conspires to assist you." -- Wolfgang Von Goethe  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.3155) JAWS version 2024.2403.3  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of DanSent: Friday, March 8, 2024 6:44 AMTo: 'cwc' via VIPhone Subject: the books app that comes on an iphone I have normally removed the books app from my phones because I have so many other sources for books.  I decided to look something up about IOS 17.4 and thought I could do it in  this app in the IOS 17.4 user guide.  I reinstalled the app and discovered that when I open the  user guide all that VO can see is the back button.  The rest of the screen appears blank. Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I doing something wrong or not doing something I should to use this app? Thanks.  -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/f7d3f316-b8cf-4b93-bac1-7c7474ad0f64%40gmail.com.



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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience with us, I was contemplating doing exactly wat you have done, you have saved me a lot of trouble, like you I’ll leave well alone.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Feb 2024, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither. Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always. I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app. I then uninstalled iTunes.I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version. I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version. I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader. Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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Re: The next generation of Speech Central has been launched

[Malcolm Parfitt]

A perfectly reasonable post there Richard, many here, myself included have benefitted from your honest and objective opinions over the years.Malcolm ParfittOn 31 Jan 2024, at 22:14, Richard Turner  wrote:I will try to give a neutral answer. If someone does not want to pay for Voice Dream Reader, then Speech Central or Dolphin EasyReader would be free options. So I don’t misquote anything about Speech Central, here is the description from the app store.You can compare it with other apps as you like.DescriptionFeature set that exceeds the competition, no subscription for the premium tier with the free tier that can be customised to be limited by the quantity or by the quality, that is the reason why you'll love Speech Central. Here are just some of our outstanding features:◦ The best text-to-speech experience - our proprietary engine significantly enhances the output of Apple's voices and AI voices by infusing their readings with emotion and variation.◦ The best PDF support in text to speech apps - your reading flow will not be interrupted by footers, headers, footnotes, in text citations and long web links as they are detected by the advanced artificial intelligence in most cases. No other app has all those features. Even the scanned PDF documents are imported with titles recognised.◦ The best web support in text to speech apps - for the first time you can listen everything as both articles and headlines (including RSS feeds) are supported. Articles can be added from the headlines page for fully uninterrupted flow or from Safari. And you can send articles from the desktop browser with the Pocket extension.◦ The widest support for documents/office and e-book formats.◦ Knowledge and text annotation tools built-in.◦ Import the text from the physical books with the camera.◦ The widest choice of options to customize the voice, appearance and various other parameters.◦ Sync playlist items across Apple devices including with the macOS app and the current position in the text.◦ Apple Watch app that can play the content independently of the main app.◦ Export the text with annotations to .docx format◦ Functions of audio buttons can be customized for high productivity and accessibility. The widest selection of tools to control the speed and browse the text that is read aloud.◦ The app can be used with dozens of languages that have text-to-speech support on the device with automatic language detection from the content.◦ Export the text to the audio file.◦ The best in class accessibility. It is completely free when used with VoiceOver and tested to be accessible by legally blind users.◦ Your data stays truly private, we collect only analytics data with no identifiable reference to the user or imported content even when the syncing is enabled.◦ Track the Mindfulness time in the Health appThe app is installed on over 250,000 devices and with consistent ratings above 4 stars Speech Central it is one of the leading global text-to-speech brands. It was nominated for the best iOS accessible app in 2020 and 2017 on AppleVis, the leading authority in the field of accessibility on Apple devices.By moving your reading activities to commuting, walking, running, doing the housework or another activity you can save an hour each day. You'll also save eyes for better things while having your battery and data plan last significantly longer. Keeping the screen off grants that you won't get into the internet addiction and waste your time on unwanted things, and thus it can also help people with ADHD.The app can be used as an assistive technology and helper for people with visual impairments (eyesight problems) and disabilities like dyslexia.Supported document types are: PDF (including scanned documents), Microsoft Word (.docx), Microsoft PowerPoint (.pptx), OpenOffice/LibreOffice (.odt, .odp), .html, .mhtml, .webarchive, .txt, .rtf. E-books in the .epub format are supported.Get the app now and enjoy the most convenient text to audio!Notes:- The free version has a daily limitation in the number of articles that you can add to it which is removed by purchasing the Pro add-on.- Some features are available only on the latest version of the operating system.- The license is valid only for the iOS/watchOS. Other operating systems have separate licenses.- DRM protected books (e.g. Kindle books) are locked to their respective vendor apps and cannot be imported into the app.moreWhat’s NewVersion HistoryJan 31, 2024 Version 14.2.3The full text edit option is back, paragraph editing is still preferred and more safe option The only thing I will add that I’m sure will make the Speech Central developer angry is that check which apps have won the best apps on Applevis.com Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 

Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes you do and they state that it does not work with the version of iTunes 
available from the Microsoft store.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 29 Jan 2024, at 01:51, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> But in order to use Waltr2 you still need to have iTunes installed on the 
> computer, don't you?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kliph
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band 
> apps
> 
> I second this
> Great program
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> 
>> To transfer music and ringtones to my iPhone, I use a program called
>> Waltr Pro, which has an annual subscription fee of $35.  Nicely
>> accessible, more so than iTunes, and none of the headaches and
>> hassles.  For making ringtones, I slice an MP3 file down with MP3
>> Direct Cut, which also has fade in and fade out functionality.  I then
>> use an online file converter to turn it into an M4R file.  I like
>> heavy metal music and have turned a number of classic heavy metal
>> songs into ringtones.  When my phone rings, a heavy guitar rift plays
>> from Metallica, Judas Priest, the Scorpions, guns and Roses, and many
>> others. I am told my ring tones turn heads. They are great
>> conversation starters.
>> 
>> In highly professional environments, I have the Grateful Dead, Miles
>> Davis, count Basie bill Evans, and Maynard Ferguson.
>> 
>> 
>> I have found that custom ringtones are backed up to iCloud so when my
>> phone is restored, the ringtones come back before I need to transfer
>> them from my PC.
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/26/24, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> As long as I can still share files and get them on to my iPhone, I'll
>>> continue to use iTunes.  If there were another way to share files and
>>> get them on to my phone, I'd use it.  Glad you can make ringtones
>>> from songs.  That is very nice.
>>> 
>>> On 1/26/24, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>>>> While I find Apple Music to be a wonderful service I’ve been a user
>>>> since
>>>> 2015 it does have its drawbacks.  Fortunately data is not too
>>>> expensive here in the UK so whether streaming via WiFi or mobile
>>>> data it’s not too bad.
>>>> However, unless you regularly explore new music you run the risk of
>>>> paying for albums over and over again.  Then there is the issue when
>>>> or if you discontinue your subscription you lose access to all your
>>>> music whereas buying physical media or downloaded content you will
>>>> still have access to your library.
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Jan 2024, at 14:54, Richard Turner
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suspect Sieghard is right on here.
>>>>> However, the timing is rather vague.  I found tons of articles from
>>>>> January of 2023 talking about this, but no articles in a year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't want to risk messing up what is working currently by
>>>>> downloading any of the previews, but I won't be surprised if the
>>>>> switch happens with very little notice or fanfair.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, be ready with good backups...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard, USA
>>>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience.
>>>>> God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go
>>>>> through Hell to get it.”
>>>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>>>> 
>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>>>>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 12:18 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and
>>>>> Garage Band apps
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then enjoy it while it lasts which most likely won't be too much
>>>>> longer now that the Apple Music, Apple TV 

Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band apps

[Malcolm Parfitt]

While I find Apple Music to be a wonderful service I’ve been a user since 2015 
it does have its drawbacks.  Fortunately data is not too expensive here in the 
UK so whether streaming via WiFi or mobile data it’s not too bad.  However, 
unless you regularly explore new music you run the risk of paying for albums 
over and over again.  Then there is the issue when or if you discontinue your 
subscription you lose access to all your music whereas buying physical media or 
downloaded content you will still have access to your library.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Jan 2024, at 14:54, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> I suspect Sieghard is right on here.
> However, the timing is rather vague.  I found tons of articles from January 
> of 2023 talking about this, but no articles in a year.
> 
> I don't want to risk messing up what is working currently by downloading any 
> of the previews, but I won't be surprised if the switch happens with very 
> little notice or fanfair.
> 
> So, be ready with good backups...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 12:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band 
> apps
> 
> Then enjoy it while it lasts which most likely won't be too much longer now 
> that the Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices apps are on the Microsoft 
> Store.
> There are plenty of articles which confirm that it is likely Apple will 
> replace iTunes with these apps, maybe this year, maybe next, but once Apple 
> released these separate apps for the Mac, iTunes for the Mac went away pretty 
> quick. Of course at this point you can't do Books or Podcasts with any of 
> these 3 apps so most likely such apps will be coming for Windows first before 
> iTunes goes away.
> There is of course also the fact that you and others who transfer huge 
> amounts of media whether MP3, M4A or Daisy format are a very small minority 
> considering how easy it is to access this stuff via the web and as I read in 
> one article, Apple used to make a huge amount of money from the sale of 
> downloadable music on iTunes, but now service revenue which means streaming 
> revenue and revenue from services such as iCloud, News etc. is hugely bigger 
> than what people still spend on actually buying music. I am very much part of 
> that demographic, I used to spend hours in music stores back in Germany in 
> the mid and late 80's listening to vinyl and later CD's and buying them, 
> still very much so here in Canada throughout the 90's, but already starting 
> in the early 2000's I started downloading music and of course now I have my 
> Apple Music subscription which gives me access to just about any music ever 
> made unless it is of course some small, locally produced artist. For more or 
> less half of what a CD cost 30 years ago I can pay my monthly Apple Music 
> subscription and listen to anything I want wherever I am.
> 
> In any case, the point o fthis post was more about how with this free app it 
> is very easy to make ringtones from songs and add them to your ringtones 
> library right on the iPhone without ever touching any other device and I find 
> this quite cool and it is certainly something I will do from now on. Many 
> years ago I wrote a tutorial on how to make ringtones in iTunes and boy was 
> it complicated compared to using this Ringtone Maker app and Garage Band.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 5:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band 
> apps
> 
> I'll stick with iTunes.  I use it all the time to get audio books and audio 
> dramas on to my iPhone.  I use the file sharing option in iTunes.
> 
>> On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Sorry, forgot to include the link for the app, here it is:
>> 
>> Ringtones Maker - the ring
>> app<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ringtones-maker-the-ring-app/id13581
>> 07315> The app is free to use, there is a “Remove Ads” button and for
>> $2.99 US or
>> $3.99 Canadian you can support the developer and get rid of ads.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard We

Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have one major problem with iOS17 that has not been fixed.If I choose to use British Siri voice three or four with Voiceover when I charge my phone the voices are deleted and the device, an iPhone 15 Pro Max reverts to using Daniel.  I know I’m not alone in experiencing this issue and until recently the same behaviour occurred with my Apple Watch Series 7.Other than that, iOS7 has been working well for me.Malcolm ParfittOn 24 Jan 2024, at 23:32, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
Yep, I installed it and have seen nothing new either.  I have had
  no problems with it at all.



Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 1/24/2024 5:51 PM, M. Taylor wrote:


  Hello All,

I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.

Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? Or
any issues that we should know?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark




  




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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you want the Apple SD Card reader, here’s the link on Amazon.Apple Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader https://amzn.eu/d/a4EJqJXMalcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 12:52, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Thanks, that sounds like it is just the job for the hard drives, now just need to sort out which particular device I need for the SD cards.Simon, the March Merman.On 16 Jan 2024, at 08:31, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:This is the device you want:Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter  Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 08:15, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:That’s what I need to know please, exactly what I need to get, thanks.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 16 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Makes no difference if it’s an iPhone 15 or not, if it’s a phone with Lightning port you just have to get the correct adapter or card reader.
 


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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.

 


Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdar


 

Malcolm Parfitt






On 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:




Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has
 its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble
 check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. 


 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:




Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it
 replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

This is the device you want:Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter  Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 08:15, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:That’s what I need to know please, exactly what I need to get, thanks.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 16 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Makes no difference if it’s an iPhone 15 or not, if it’s a phone with Lightning port you just have to get the correct adapter or card reader.
 


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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.

 


Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdar


 

Malcolm Parfitt






On 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:




Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has
 its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble
 check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. 


 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:




Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it
 replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdarMalcolm ParfittOn 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.SimonSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/937503E0-0879-4320-A61C-51FBEBFC5378%40fastmail.co.uk.



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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I completely agree with you Richard, I only mentioned SuperSense’s description 
out of interest rather than a recommendation.

I may say the same of Tap Tap See and One Step Reader!

There are many apps on my iPhone that no longer deserve being there.

My comparison was based on one image alone with my iPhone placed on a stand 
controlled with a Bluetooth keyboard.  Had I taken photographs of  other 
subjects under different lighting conditions my results may have been totally 
different.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2023, at 23:44, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want 
> to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're 
> prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see 
> the options to either call a live person or make use of AI.
> I hope that helps.
> Take good care,
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> llump...@austin.rr.com
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> 
> It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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> 
> Hello Richard and Everyone,
> 
> I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:
> 
> After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
> description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
> human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.
> 
> Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
> options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
> like to volunteer, share your sight.
> 
> I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.
> 
> How does one activate that feature?
> 
> The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
> exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and 
> how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
> $19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
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> 
> I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
> descriptions. 
> I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv 
> on a table." 
> I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 
> 
> The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the 
> left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In 
> the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the 
> stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, 
> there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a 
> window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the 
> right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
> suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are 
> painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas 
> tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a 
> corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer 
> might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.
> 
> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
  image downwards

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post.Happy holiday to one and all!Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner  wrote:Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Since updating to iOS 17.3 (21D5026f) my iPhone loses Siri UK voice 4 each day.  I make now abandoned using Siri voices for now, I will retry in a later version.Mike, I think I will visit my favourite barstool in my local pub for medicinal purposes you understand.Malcolm ParfittOn 17 Dec 2023, at 20:41, Mike B.  wrote:






I have the same problem, but only after 
updating any iOS version beginning with iOS17...  After an iOS17 
update my Voiceover switches from Siri voice 1 United States to Siri 
voice 2 United States.
 
I've have to redownload Siri voice 1 United 
States and then switch to it after every iOS17 update so far.  Didn't 
have any problems like this with any earlier iOS versions.  It's not a big 
deal, just something different.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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I use the North American Siri Voice 4 as my primary voice for 
Voiceover and this is not an issue at all. I wonder what causes this to happen 
for you.
 
 

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Re: Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.
 

Thanks for your email!
 


On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
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  I remember that song, LOL. Good one, does your iPhone lose 
  its voice, while on the charger over night. -Original 
  Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm 
  ParfittSent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 4:23 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Loss of Siri voices 
  when iPhone is on charge.For some time now I have been using Siri 
  voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.For some reason it 
  keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has been happening 
  when the device is on its wireless charger over night.If I want to 
  restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the 
  morning.Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.It used 
  to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.I 
  wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's 
  Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
  now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger 
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Loss of Siri voices when iPhone is on charge.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

For some time now I have been using Siri voice3 British dialect with my iPhone 
15 Pro Max.

For some reason it keeps losing the voice and reverting to Daniel.  This has 
been happening when the device is on its wireless charger over night.

If I want to restore the voice it is necessary to redownload it in the morning.

Sadly this issue persists in the latest beta.

It used to occurs on my Apple Watch too but this is no longer the case.

I wonder how many people will remember the song, Does Your Chewing Gum Lose 
It's Flavour (On the Bedpost Overnight? Lonnie Donegan.  Well perhaps we could 
now sing:  Does your iPhone lose its voices on the charger overnight?

Any thoughts welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Transfer Gmail contacts to iCloud?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have some contacts that for some reason are stored in my Gmail account.

I would like to move these into my iCloud account but cannot see an easy way to 
achieve this.

For some reason my default account for contacts had been changed to Gmail but I 
would like them all to be stored in iCloud.

Any advice welcome.
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Re: A Happy Thanksgiving Day to Everyone

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Here in the UK we don’t celebrate Thanks Giving none-the-less I want to say a 
special thanks to Mark for another year of moderating this list.  A thankless 
job at times and a difficult one too but you always manage to do it fairly and 
with humility.

Thanks too for all contributions that enhance our abilities and help solve 
problems we encounter.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Problem with making and receiving calls

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have had that problem off and on here in the UK on a variety of iPhones and 
networks.  I don’t use Siri to make called and I have calling over WiFi enabled.

I have experienced this issue with an iPhone7 iPhone XR, 12 Pro Max and most 
recently my iPhone 15 Pro Max.  I have used EE and Three networks.

I always have three bars on my WiFi throughout our house and mobile data signal 
strength varies between one and three bars indoors.

Often when I make a call it takes sometime to connect and the call quality 
varies without my having moved at all.

Obviously when calling another mobile phone it is impossible to determine which 
end where the problem  exists.  But calling fixed line numbers it is easier to 
determine where the problem is caused.

I have tried everything to narrow down the cause of the problem without success.

Back in the early days of Symbian this never seemed to be such a problem.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Nov 2023, at 00:18, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> No, I don't usually use siri to make my calls.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> I have this question. Do you get Siri to make your calls? 
> 
> When I had my SE, I had problems that were similar, so I called the guy at 
> Consumer Cellular, my carrier at the time, and complained. He asked me, are 
> you using Siri? I said yes to make calls. He said to make them myself and see 
> if I had more success. I started calling myself instead of using Siri, and 
> immediately had success. In particular, when I tried to call from our Senior 
> Center or our apartment, both in low, wooded areas, I had the problem. 
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> I’m having a significant issue with my Iphone SE3, and before I take it in I 
> thought I’d see if anyone has any suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
> When I try to make calls the call either doesn’t go through at all or it 
> doesn’t ring and then just drops the call. When I receive calls I can answer 
> them and I can hear the person on the other end but they can’t hear me. I’ve 
> even turned up the volume.
> 
> 
> 
> I have powered my phone down twice and reset network settings three times 
> without any success.
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> 
> 
> Any other suggestions?
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> 
> 
> Denise
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Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Well I’m interested to learn that I am not the only one here that roasts his own coffee!  I have done so for around 20 years.Welcome to the club.Here in the UK I buy from hasbean.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Nov 2023, at 22:05, Cristobal Munoz  wrote:Good one… On Nov 13, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






What is wrong with the truth?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cristóbal Muñoz 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may 
  teach us?
  
  
  This topic reminds me of these two 
  articles.
  Blind 
  Olympic athletes show the universal nature of pride and 
  shame
  The role of 
  visual experience in the production of emotional facial expressions by blind 
  people:
  Sometimes, BeMyEyes descriptions aren’t appreciated. The 
  other day, I used it to snap a photo of a bag of green coffee beans that I 
  wanted to roast. I held the bag of beans in my left hand and snapped the 
  picture with my iPhone in my right hand. BeMyEyes came back with a description 
  of the type of bean, region where they were grown, altitude and a whole bunch 
  of other info I wouldn’t gotten if I tried using SeeingAI. Cool cool… 
  
  At the end of the very detailed description, BeMyEyes 
  also wrote that the bag was being held by someone with a harry arm. WTH! 
  What’s up with the editorializing? 
   
  Cristóbal
   
  -Original Message-From: 
  viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
  Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, November 13, 2023 12:31 PMTo: 
  viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach 
us?
   
  What did your friend say about your _expression_? I assume 
  it described you as "serious" because you weren't smiling.
   
   
  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
  On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt
  Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:52 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Be My AI and what it may teach 
  us?
   
  Hello friends.
   
  I appreciate that none of you know me personally and 
  like me have no idea what I look like.
   
  However, at my request a friend of mine took a picture 
  of me recently when we were in what we call in the UK a pub.  I was very 
  interested in the results I obtained when asking Be My AI to describe the 
  photo.  It’s description was:
   
  The man in the picture has a fair complexion and a 
  sturdy build. His hair is short and appears to be a mix of gray and black, and 
  he has a full head of hair. His eyes are partially closed, and he has a 
  somewhat stern or serious _expression_ on his face. His nose is prominent and he 
  has full lips. He is clean-shaven.
   
  He is wearing a dark-colored polo shirt with a collar. 
  The shirt has a small embroidery on the right side of his chest that reads 
  "Samuel Smith" in a cursive font with gold thread. The shirt appears to be of 
  a comfortable fit.
   
  The lighting in the picture is focused on him, making 
  him the central element of the image. There is no additional information 
  provided about the man, such as his name or what he is doing in the 
  pub.
   
   
  What interested me most is that this is the closest we 
  can get to a sighted person looking in a mirror.
   
  The other thing that struck me was the description of my 
  _expression_.  I had never really thought about expressions but I suddenly 
  thought are expressions learned or natural.  How far do our expressions 
  mirror those of sighted people.  I didn’t feel serious at the time, and 
  if Be My AI’s description of my _expression_ was accurate then why would I look 
  serious?
   
  Do our expressions really express our mood as sighted 
  people’s do?
   
  Not really an Apple question admittedly but an 
  interesting subject.
   
  Apologies in advance for the off-topic post but I would 
  be most interested in your opinions.
  Malcolm Parfitt
   
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Be My AI and what it may teach us?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello friends.

I appreciate that none of you know me personally and like me have no idea what 
I look like.

However, at my request a friend of mine took a picture of me recently when we 
were in what we call in the UK a pub.  I was very interested in the results I 
obtained when asking Be My AI to describe the photo.  It’s description was:

The man in the picture has a fair complexion and a sturdy build. His hair is 
short and appears to be a mix of gray and black, and he has a full head of 
hair. His eyes are partially closed, and he has a somewhat stern or serious 
expression on his face. His nose is prominent and he has full lips. He is 
clean-shaven.

He is wearing a dark-colored polo shirt with a collar. The shirt has a small 
embroidery on the right side of his chest that reads "Samuel Smith" in a 
cursive font with gold thread. The shirt appears to be of a comfortable fit.

The lighting in the picture is focused on him, making him the central element 
of the image. There is no additional information provided about the man, such 
as his name or what he is doing in the pub.


What interested me most is that this is the closest we can get to a sighted 
person looking in a mirror.

The other thing that struck me was the description of my expression.  I had 
never really thought about expressions but I suddenly thought are expressions 
learned or natural.  How far do our expressions mirror those of sighted people. 
 I didn’t feel serious at the time, and if Be My AI’s description of my 
expression was accurate then why would I look serious?

Do our expressions really express our mood as sighted people’s do?

Not really an Apple question admittedly but an interesting subject.

Apologies in advance for the off-topic post but I would be most interested in 
your opinions.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Update to SuperSense available.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Here’s what they say about the update, don’t hold your breath, it’s nothing to 
write home about.

Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding 
to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to 
announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Read History Filters: 
Tailor your results in Read History and display only what you need on the 
latest results section 2) Library: A new Library button is added to Read 
History where you can access all recognition history categorized by read modes 
in the new Library screen 3) Dark Theme: Switch to dark mode on all Supersense 
screens by selecting Dark Theme under the settings menu 4) Reading Settings: A 
new settings menu to customize reading and display options on the reading 
screen 5) Quick Mode Selection: An optional setting to start Supersense in mode 
selection menu instead of scanning screen. You can change it under the Settings 
menu. More exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate 
any feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know 
what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to 
superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team

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Re: Strange issue with iOS17.1 with iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Richard,

Many thanks, that’s sorted it although I cannot remember making that setting 
change to the device.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Oct 2023, at 01:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you are downloading to the app library, rather than the home 
> screen.
> Go to settings, Home Screen and App library and make sure newly downloaded 
> apps is set to home screen and not the app library.
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> Recently I have experienced a strange problem with my iPhone 15 pro Max 
>> running iOS17.1.
>> 
>> If I install an app via the App Store or redownload an app previously 
>> installed it does not appear on any of the screens on my iPhone.  It is not 
>> in any folder but can be found via Spot Light.
>> 
>> Swiping through all the screens containing apps installed on the device 
>> newly downloaded apps to not appear.
>> 
>> If I go into Settings, General and iPhone Storage all apps are listed along 
>> with the space they’re taking up.
>> 
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Strange issue with iOS17.1 with iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Recently I have experienced a strange problem with my iPhone 15 pro Max running 
iOS17.1.

If I install an app via the App Store or redownload an app previously installed 
it does not appear on any of the screens on my iPhone.  It is not in any folder 
but can be found via Spot Light.

Swiping through all the screens containing apps installed on the device newly 
downloaded apps to not appear.

If I go into Settings, General and iPhone Storage all apps are listed along 
with the space they’re taking up.

Any suggestions welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Sieghard,

I agree with you but looking at the charging data it shows “No Data” for 
several hours which suggests the phone had been off for some time around six 
hours!

Anywhere from around 2A.M to 7:45A.M.  I have not touched the device during 
these hours.

Rather strange.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 17 Oct 2023, at 18:28, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> This means that for whatever reason your phone restarts during the night. I 
> see this very occasionally with my iPhone 13 Pro as well although tit's been 
> some time now that this happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
> iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).
> 
> I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with 
> an Anker 7.5 Watt charger.
> 
> In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
> when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
> charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is 
> usually on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.
> 
> Anyone had similar experience?
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).

I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with an 
Anker 7.5 Watt charger.

In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is usually 
on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.

Anyone had similar experience?
Malcolm Parfitt

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Updating from an iPhone 12 Pro Max to a 15 Pro Max experience.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello friends.

Earlier yesterday here in the UK I received my new iPhone 15 Pro Max.

I was upgrading to this model from an iPhone 12 Pro Max.

Once I booted the new device I was offered the choice of updating iOS to the 
latest release which I did.

Once initial setup was completed including Face ID I chose to transfer the data 
between the two devices.

This took no time at all and once completed my new device downloaded the apps 
that were present on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

The only apps that required verification were financial apps like:  HSBC ESET 
Home Idmobile and so-on.

Once my new device was approved by these applications my iPhone 15 Pro Max was 
up and running.

The two devices are not that dissimilar in size so orientation was not too big 
a problem.

The new iPhone feels somewhat quicker in its response across all apps and using 
a variety of voices with VoiceOver.

My initial findings are that the camera upgrade does not have an impact on the 
apps we as blind people would typically use.

Apple made the transition between the two devices as trouble free as it could 
have been and I am pleased with the upgrade process and the device itself.

Hope this may help someone.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Check out this Be My Eyes Blog

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hey there,
I just read a cool blog on Be My Eyes and wanted to send it your way! Give it a 
read.

' Story: Image to Text AI and Blurred Faces: What’s Going On?
https://www.bemyeyes.com/blog/image-to-text-ai-and-blurred-faces-whats-going-on?fbclid=IwAR01TmNb8QezfUyTMqJkvDYgXwkVCayTWea7jaRv-gRFgC2sbRziTmIkOsw_aem_AU15WHXN4QPZZ6knxPdIBJDg1bO1IFU9kR-g4dNlEb8S_5kfFDySwih-nqH7HqAg_Mc

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: seeing AI and facial recognition

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I agree with Richard, I simply see it as an extension of Seeing AI’s person 
Channel or TapTap See’s description.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 18 Sep 2023, at 18:06, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> To me, the discussion isn't about facial recognition as in naming the 
> person, but rather giving a description of the facial features.
> Seeing AI has a channel where you can train it to recognize a picture you 
> take of a person and assign a name to that picture after 3 successful photos 
> have been taken.
> That is very different from combing the internet looking for matches to a 
> particular face.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
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> If I understand correctly, and I'm not sure I do, the debate is over whether 
> Seeing and other similar apps should do facial recognition. I get it that 
> many people don't want to have their face recognized and I don't think blind 
> people's right to have faces recognized trumps the public's rights not to 
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Has anyone ordered a new Apple product yet and if so how was your experience?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

On Friday at 1 o’clock P.M here in the UK the Apple Store was supposed to take 
pre orders for Apple products.

You could actually start the order process on Tuesday 12 September and this was 
supposed to speed up the process on Friday 15Th.

Here in the UK the order process was not as smooth as I thought it would be.

After several attempts my order for an iPhone 15 Pro Max as an upgrade from my 
current iPhone 12 Pro Max was complete.

At first it was unable to find the order I placed on 12Th then the trade in 
system was not working.

It is complete now but it took a little over half an hour on Friday to complete.

I’m posting this today as I had COVID on the weekend and have not done much 
since.
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Re: Be my AI and pictures?

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It’s well worth remembering that a bad attitude is like a flat tire, you will not go far unless you change it!Malcolm ParfittOn 17 Sep 2023, at 00:11, CHELA Robles  wrote:Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Ugg.I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed and re-opened the app and fictures worked. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of William JamesSent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was open for us to peruse and report issues.  I’ll give you an example. I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better! Get Outlook for iOSFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?  Hello, There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis. The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something to do with Open AI themselves. I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike anything we’ve ever known! Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to shame! Take a look at:   Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game Changing Real-World Use Casesapplevis.com Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I wrote to complain about that. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> wrote: I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last time. Here is the email address again to write into.supp...@bemyeyes.com On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader <maderra...@icloud.com> wrote: I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. Best regards.Jerry Mader On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr <claudas...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is light grey.This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it started doing this? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The a

Re: Be my AI and pictures?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something to do with Open AI themselves.I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike anything we’ve ever known!Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to shame!Take a look at:Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game Changing Real-World Use Casesapplevis.comMalcolm ParfittOn 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner  wrote:I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I wrote to complain about that. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone  wrote:sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last time. Here is the email address again to write into.supp...@bemyeyes.comOn Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader  wrote:I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again and then taking it back away I don't blame you for being bummed because I think a lot of people are born. You guys should all write into support it be my eyes.com and let them know that you're angry about this but you want to think maybe they'll listen to you and fix it maybe they won't but at least you're letting them know. All reports work well. Always sending this much feedback as you can. A lot of people are angry with these people they really hurt people by doing that. Think about how I feel though. My mother just recently passed away and I can't even look at photos of what you look like now because they have removed the ability for us to see faces. This is very very sad. We should all be out raged because this is not the way that an AI should be for blind people it's very disrespectful and discriminatory. Best regards.Jerry MaderOn Sep 16, 2023, at 10:42 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:Hi everyone! I'm so bummed! Be my AI was doing so amazingly well in describing pictures... and now all of a sudden I'm getting a message saying that the picture has text that says: Be My AI: The image you provided is a placeholder image with text that reads "This image was blocked because it may contain faces or people." The text is centered and the background is light grey.This is not true. Seeing AI described the pic but not in as much detail as be my AI did. I know this is a beta but wondering why all of a sudden it started doing this? Sent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A859F149-C662-4F88-9208-28752FBBF499%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C8BA81C5-687C-41C6-8186-06133B77E058%40icloud.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is 

Re: Altitude gain and loss

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This app may help you:myAltitude - free altimeter for climbing & hikingNavigationMalcolm ParfittOn 30 Aug 2023, at 16:30, Tom Rash  wrote:The health app on the iPhone should.  Mine does.  Not exactly, but my phone after a walk says 91 feet in elevation.  Don’t know how accurate it is.On Aug 30, 2023, at 6:06 AM, rhs via VIPhone  wrote:Hi,Is there an app that will track how much altitude you gain and lose as you walk?  I walk up and down some pretty good sized hills and am curious about this.Thanks.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005801d9db42%24c92dd990%245b898cb0%24%40startmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3EA023C0-065F-4006-9143-DE53F34BFD4D%40gmail.com.



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Re: Questions regarding my Apple watch

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

To achieve the results you want launch the Watch App on your iPhone.

Go into Display and Brightness.  Ensure that Wake on Wrist Raise Is turned off.

Now exit this screen and go to Accessibility.  Choose VoiceOver and make sure 
Speak on Wrist Raise Is turned off too.

Hope this helps.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Aug 2023, at 12:26, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I just have a quick question, or two, regarding my Apple watch.
> 
> 
> Is there a way to set it, or a way to enable it, so that the watch won't 
> speak, if the face is touched?
> 
> Or, just if I move my arm in a certain way?
> 
> 
> This always seems to be happening to me. Which in most cases is fine.
> 
> 
> However, I will be attending college soon, and I do not want my watch going 
> off all the time. The yammering would not be appreciated by others, that is 
> for sure. LOL!
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> 
> Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: wiping an older iphone

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I agree with you Richard, when I had my iPhone7 here in the UK from EE I had to use iTunes to enable VoiceOver.Malcolm ParfittOn 4 Aug 2023, at 14:30, Richard Turner  wrote:By denying my experience, you are being contrary.  I can only repeat, I have experienced cases where wiping an iPhone lost the accessibility shortcut.  I am not making that up.But, as was stated by someone, it could be the carrier had set it up so it got removed.   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 9:42 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: wiping an older iphone Richard, I don't want to be contrary, but Julian is correct, I have had  iPhones starting with the iPhone 4 in 2010 and a factory reset would always restore the out of the box experience where you can start Voiceover with a triple press of the home button, or in later models which don't have a home button, with a triple press of the side button. Every iPhone I have purchased worked this way and every time I reset an iPhone with erase all setting and content it also worked this way which would make sense because this process restores it to the factory defaults and out of box experience which includes being able to start Voiceover with a triple press of the home or side button. The same applies to iPads, the Apple Watch and the Apple TV, a factory reset always restores the ability to start Voiceover with a triple press of the appropriate button. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 2:25 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: wiping an older iphone Thanks Joseph.I never had an iPhone 7.  The ones I did have, when they were erased, the shortcut was gone as well.Of course, that was in earlier iOS versions and I had set the shortcut up myself when it was not there from Apple.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph hudsonSent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 2:19 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: wiping an older iphone Actually, Richard, you don't lose the shortcut. For voiceover. You only lose the shortcut if a carrier sets it up. Once the phone is reset, you can call the VoiceOver on by holding and pressing the home button for three times. On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote: If you use the Settings, General, Reset, erase all data, you will likely lose the accessibility shortcut and will either have to use a computer with the phone connected via the cable with iTunes to enable it, or get sighted help to go through the setup and enable the shortcut again.   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com  On Aug 3, 2023, at 12:31 PM, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone  wrote:Voiceover is part of the operating system so you’re not going to lose it. Most likely when the iPhone turns on you initially won’t have voiceover, however, you can press the home button three times and voiceover will turn on.Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Paula Jordan  wrote:Hi all.  I have an iphone 7 That I want to wipe, but I don’t want to lose voice-over.  How do I go about that?Thanks.God bless!Paula and the pups -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00f901d9c63f%24f83c21f0%24e8b465d0%24%40roadrunner.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the 

Supersense on sale again!

[Malcolm Parfitt]

It’s that time of year again when I receive notifications that Supersense is on 
sale again despite my having purchased a a lifetime subscription some time ago.

No matter how much this app is discounted I cannot find a compelling reason to 
take out any level of subscription.

Why are they notifying me that I can subscribe at a discounted rate when I 
already have a lifetime subscription?

Not one of my wisest decisions!Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Apple Watch no longer speaks or makes sounds

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hi,

This is a common problem and is best solved by pressing both the power button 
and the Digital Crown and holding them both in for around ten seconds.  Release 
them both and in a short while your watch should be talking again.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Jul 2023, at 22:22, Jim Portillo  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> I’ve never had problems with my Apple Watch, but yesterday, in the middle of 
> the afternoon, I felt it do some kind of hectic thing on my wrist. I thought 
> perhaps I was getting a text or mail or some thing, so I checked it. It no 
> longer spoke nor made any kind of noise.
> I know it still works because it still vibrates, but there’s no way of fixing 
> it.  I don’t know if it is VoiceOver or something else. I went to my settings 
> and messed with that, but nothing different happened. Line does anyone have 
> any idea of what could be happening? The battery is completely charged, and 
> it still does not speak or make any noise.
> Thanks
> Jim
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> Sent from my iPhone 12!
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Re: supersense app sale

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, it is not super and it does not make much sense to buy it even on sale.I’ve had the app for some years now and despite numerous promises of development they are yet to materialise.It’s features are duplicated in other apps, often for free and are far better implemented.Malcolm ParfittOn 8 Jul 2023, at 17:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







From all I hear they do very little pushing of b oundaries and have often announced all sorts of upgrades and enhancements which are not forthcoming. Be careful what  you spend your money on.
 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2023 3:28 AM
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Subject: supersense app sale

 

Summer Sale is here! Save 50% on Lifetime and 40% on Yearly Plans!
Get ready to elevate your summer to new heights with sensational news! We're thrilled to announce the highly anticipated Supersense Summer Sale. From now until September 1, you can unleash the full power of Supersense on iOS or Android
 at unbeatable prices. Don't miss out on the opportunity to enjoy a remarkable 50% discount on our lifetime subscription and 40% off the annual plan for the first year!
What’s cooking at Supersense? A sneak peek at upcoming AI enhancements
At Supersense, we are committed to staying at the forefront of innovation and providing you with the best user experience. Our dedicated team has been hard at work, pushing the boundaries and incorporating the latest advancements in AI.
 We are also closely following the developments surrounding GPT-4 to ensure we deliver cutting-edge features to our users.
In the upcoming months, we have an exciting roadmap of enhancements that will take Supersense to the next level. Here's a sneak peek at what we have in store:
1. Tap-free Question Answering: Interact effortlessly with voice assistants to extract specific details from the scanned text. 
2. Intelligent Text Interpretation: Tackle complex documents with ease as Supersense extracts and presents the most crucial information on top. Focus on what matters most without the clutter.
3. User-assisted Text Modification: Say goodbye to scanning errors. Supersense will now assist you in modifying text by offering editing, reordering, and deleting options. Take control of your scanned content.
4. Comprehensive Image Descriptions: Visuals come alive as Supersense generates detailed descriptions of images. Gain context and meaning, making the experience truly inclusive.
5. Real-Time Translations: Language barriers are no longer an obstacle. Supersense introduces a built-in translation tool delivering high-quality and real-time translations.
User Shout Out
We’ve been getting lots of feedback from our users and we’d like to take some time to share what they say. In our ongoing efforts to incorporate the latest AI enhancements into our document scanner, we are delighted to highlight a positive
 review posted on the App Store which specifically acknowledges its accuracy and ease of use. 
"This app includes the best scanner I have come across so far. It is very accurate, I would guess 99%. It is very easy to read mail very quickly if you put the scanner in document mode. The program will tell you how to move the phone so
 that it can get an accurate picture. It is wonderful, very easy to use, no errors where you get the left or right corners cut off or anything like that. The money reader is excellent. There are some experimental things, and I love the way they venture out
 to find new products. This is well worth the lifetime price that I paid. I am very happy with this product, and know that it will only get better as time passes."
We're very happy to see that Supersense enables many more creative solutions to our everyday lives with its constantly improving technology. 
We’re looking forward to sharing more thoughts in the coming months!

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Re: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features

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Title: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features
I too bought Supersense when it was on offer a while ago.  It was on a Boxing Day.  I remember it recognised a bottle of port that I subsequently opened that may have clouded my judgement.Since then we’ve had many promises  but little if any developments.Its place on my iPhone is out of what it cost me rather than out of what it benefits me.Its Object Recognition results are far more contemptible than useful.We are promised more and more exciting features time and time again but it’s rather like, jam tomorrow yesterday, but never today.There’s a hole in the bucket as the song says and that’s equally true of their promises.The only redeeming feature of this app in my opinion is its guidance when capturing a document.Many apps duplicate the features of this app and implement them far better.Malcolm ParfittOn 6 Jul 2023, at 23:52, Alex Stone  wrote:I must be getting old, I haven’t heard that term used for a very long time tine!On 6 Jul 2023, at 22:23, Mary Otten  wrote:I have to agree, richard. Vaporware. I guess that’s a term they don’t use anymore, but it should apply to this program in my opinion. I bought it, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, you know the rest.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Ince they haven't done all they promised from two years ago, I would take all this with a very large grain of salt.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 1:06 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: FW: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features   From: Supersense Team  Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:01 PMTo: dennisl1...@gmail.comSubject: Supersense Summer Sale, Latest Advancements in AI and Upcoming Features View online version -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/002701d9b045%2448c125f0%24da4371d0%24%40gmail.com.



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Re: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Mark’s interesting post reminded me of my mechanical weight driven cuckoo clock.

Perhaps some of you will already know for the clock to continue to run it has 
to be vertical or it will stop between five to and the hour.  The chins that 
are attached to the weights have to be exactly vertical.

After some trial and error and not getting the clock to work I used the level 
on my iPhone to set it up.  It worked perfectly well for years and the level 
came in handy again when I moved house.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 21 Jun 2023, at 18:18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> This was very interesting with excellent detail about the iOS Level app. I 
> suspect that even with a perfectly level washer, you will experience 
> occasions especially when laundering bed linens, blankets, and towels that 
> they will get out of balance in your washer causing it to shake, rattle, and 
> roll and necessitating that you simply open the lid and redistribute 
> everything evenly. Of course, you are free to revisit the level project again 
> if you have that time available.
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 5:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Don't Forget About the Excellent Level App that is Part of iOS 16
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I have been meaning to post to the list for quite a while but time just keeps 
> slipping away.
> 
> Anyway, a while back, my top-loading washer began doing the walk of shame 
> across the floor during the high-speed portion of the spin cycle.  Now It was 
> not doing this every spin cycle but only when I had the basket loaded with 
> heavy bedding.
> 
> Anyway, again with that time slipping away thing, I let it go on for far too 
> long.
> 
> Finally, one day, I decided to either resolve the problem on my own or hire 
> someone to do it for me.
> 
> Of course, I knew that the problem was that the machine needed to be leveled 
> as it had been over 4 years since its installation into my home.
> 
> The thing is, to the naked eye, the unit looked pretty much level; at least 
> it did to all of the sighted people I consulted; not professionals, just 
> friends.
> 
> Finally, I remembered that my beloved 14 Pro Max has a native level app.  I 
> discovered that the laundry room floor dips off by about 1 degree as one 
> approaches the center of the room.  You really can't tell by standing on the 
> floor because it only reaches that 1 degree at the very center.
> 
> Anyway, after practicing with the level for a day or so with various surfaces 
> around my house, one day I began leveling the washer, by myself; even though 
> it is generally a 2-man job.
> 
> With the help of the iOS level app, I was able to get the washing machine 
> level after about 15 minutes or so.  I was truly impressed at how sensitive 
> the device was to even the slightest changes in a surface angle.
> 
> After 15 minutes or so, I took my final measurements and the machine was 
> perfectly level from every angle I could think of to measure.
> 
> Now, even with the heaviest loads in the basket, the walk of shame has 
> stopped.
> 
> What a wonderful tool that helped me to get the job done right.
> 
> The level app, found in the Measure app of iOS is always there when you need 
> it; so take it for a quote, spin, quote, the next time you need to level up.
> (smile)
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: URL rejected by native browser but not by Edge!

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,Thank you for trying the link for me.The strange thing is that it worked fine on Sunday when I ordered my new SIM.  I have not made any changes to my iPhone 12 Pro Max or updated any software since Sunday but I cannot access Id Mobile’s site.  If I double tap their link on my series 7 Apple Watch the page loads.  It works fine with Edge too but for some reason no longer with Safari.I’ve restarted the phone and reset network settings but the issue persists.All other sites work fine.If anyone has any suggestions I shall be pleased to read them.Malcolm ParfittOn 6 Jun 2023, at 00:52, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:For what it might be worth, I just tried it and it went through. I am in North Carolina, u.s.  I used Safari, on this S E3, runing  16.5.   Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 5, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello,Here in the UK I have recently changed mobile provider from EE to Id Mobile.However when I try to access their site:  ww w.idmobile.co.uk with Safari I get the following:The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator.Your support ID is: 12145526824697077944I can access the site with Edge.All other sites work fine.  I have disabled Private Relay but the problem persists.Has anyone experienced a similar problem and if so how have you resolved it?It would appear to be a problem with the immobile domain with Safari.I am running an iPhone 12 Pro Max with iOS 16.6 Malcolm Parfitt



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URL rejected by native browser but not by Edge!

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Here in the UK I have recently changed mobile provider from EE to Id Mobile.

However when I try to access their site:  ww w.idmobile.co.uk with Safari I get 
the following:

The requested URL was rejected. Please consult with your administrator.

Your support ID is: 12145526824697077944

I can access the site with Edge.

All other sites work fine.  I have disabled Private Relay but the problem 
persists.

Has anyone experienced a similar problem and if so how have you resolved it?

It would appear to be a problem with the immobile domain with Safari.

I am running an iPhone 12 Pro Max with iOS 16.6 
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Re: SuperSense update

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, Richard I agree more empty promises!I could remove the app, but having payed no small sum of money to use it I feel that I have the right to comment on its development or rather its lack of it.Malcolm ParfittOn 3 May 2023, at 20:40, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, I could do that.Or, I could leave it there, and see if they ever do any truly substantial updates.And. Let them know, as they requested, how I feel about their app; which I have done.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:09 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: SuperSense update Then it would seem the solution is to uninstall the app, unsubscribe from their announcements and move on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis LongSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:00 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: SuperSense update That’s it?  wow unreal. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard TurnerSent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:36 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: FW: SuperSense update I'm still astonished that the folks at SuperSense think they are doing such great things with these piddly updates.Here is what it says in today's update. "Hello friends, We've received many requests from our users and are responding to them with the feature updates in the highest demand. We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) Backend improvements to enhance the accuracy of quick read, import and barcode modes 2) Minor bug fixes and UI improvements More exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know what you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. Best, Supersense Team  Richard, USA.  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/010801d97dee%242d754990%24885fdcb0%24%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/016c01d97df1%246badc180%2443094480%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB565668451B4D7DFEBA0F6B2AC76C9%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: Playing Apple classical music over my sonos speakers

[Malcolm Parfitt]

One possible workaround is that Apple Classical shares its library with the regular Music app.So if you add items via the Classical app they are in the library accessed by the Music app so you could play them that way.Hope this is of use to someone.Malcolm ParfittOn 17 Apr 2023, at 16:03, Richard Turner  wrote:I am streaming music from Apple Classical over my Sonos system as I write this. Start the music and pause it. Then bring up the control panel. Then double tap on either phone or bluetooth. I know, you probably aren't using bluetooth but just go through the steps. Flickright until you get to the list of able speakers and your Sonos will be there. My system is on Wi-Fi and it works perfectly. Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Apr 17, 2023, at 3:42 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Thanks.   From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone  Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 6:41 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Playing Apple classical music over my sonos speakers According to someone, I spoke to at Sonos, they are working on support between Apple, classical music, and Sonos. However, it is not there yet. I also spoke to someone with Apple about support on Sonos, as well as the Mac and got a similar answer. And he said they have no plans to take it to the Mac with an apple.On Apr 17, 2023, at 4:11 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi. I just bought a Sonos Era-300 and am anxious to hear spatial audio over my Era-300. I tried accessing the new apple Classical music app. I can get into it through Music, then go to apple Classical, but can’t figure out how to play it through Sonos. I can also get to it through Sonos, but can’t connect into the Era-300, although I can using Spotify. Anybody got any suggestions?Thanks. John  -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001001d97104%24246ef680%246d4ce380%24%40verizon.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/9A969191-22FA-40CB-954A-A0874D021862%40icloud.com.



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Re: Apple Music Classical

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,I have been using the new Apple Classical app for around a week now.From an accessibility point of view it is perfectly usable just like the regular Music App.  I expected no less from Apple.The search algorithm is vastly improved and copes well with the demands of classical music.  It does come up with spurious results at times, for example I did a search for the tenor Hosé Carreras and it returned a result for another tenor Tito Schipa.  These gentlemen have nothing in common appart from their both renounced tenors.Generally it is an excellent service although from the searches are better handled I have not found the catalogue has been expanded just that it is far easier to find and listen to music of your choice.Malcolm ParfittOn 3 Apr 2023, at 06:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Just curious what some of the classical music fans on this list have to say about the new app now that it's been out publically for a week. I remember a few years ago there was a discussion how bad the regular Apple Music app is when it
 comes to the somewhat different and more complex meta data associated with classical music and I just read an article which was extremely positive regarding the new app.
 
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Re: Apple Music Classical will make its debut soon

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I pre-ordered the app last week.It’ll be interesting to see whether tracks can be added to a library and if so if they will be added to iTunes library as tracks are now.Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Mar 2023, at 18:58, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I know a few people on the list seem to like their classical music so hopefully they will be happy with what is coming in a few weeks:
 
Apple Music Classical will give your smartphone some culture on March 28 | Ars Technica
 
 
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Re: Facebook comments now fixed.

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On my iPhone I updated iOS prior to updating Facebook and it was the iOS update that fixed the issue.Malcolm ParfittOn 9 Mar 2023, at 18:40, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Yes, unfortunately I forgot to check after installing the Facebook 405 update whether this fixed it or whether it was the iOS 16.4 beta update. Anyways, just as you said, it is also now fixed for me.
Now Facebook just has to fix the issue about not being able to edit any ads you post on Market Place or other buy and sell groups. Unfortunately I am not hopeful here since it's been like that for a long time.
 
 


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Hello,

 


Having just updated to iOS 16.4 (20E5229e) and Facebook version 405.0 I am pleased to be able to say that the ability to comment on Facebook posts worked again with both the
 on-screen keyboard and Bluetooth keyboards too.


 

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Facebook comments now fixed.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Having just updated to iOS 16.4 (20E5229e) and Facebook version 405.0 I am 
pleased to be able to say that the ability to comment on Facebook posts worked 
again with both the on-screen keyboard and Bluetooth keyboards too.

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Re: transferring all the contacts from a Nokia N82 mobile to an se iphone via bluetooth,

[Malcolm Parfitt]

There is also a program called Mobile Trans by Wondershare that will do the job.I understand that All Tunes should be released soon which is the successor to Imazing.Malcolm ParfittOn 27 Feb 2023, at 19:09, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Doing a Google search indicates you can possibly use a program called "Phone Copy" as well as the "Nokia PC Suite". Whether either of these applications is screenreader friendly I can't say, you would just have to Google thenm, download
 and  install and then try.
 


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Hi 
 
I need to transferr all the contacts i have on a Nokia N82 mobile to an se iphone via blutooth, can anyone explain to me how to do it please?

Thanks in advance 
 
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Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Sieghard

I have no problem with anyone discussing anything as long as Mark our moderator 
approves it.

The more we discuss the more likely problems can be discovered and hopefully 
resolved.

However, you may have forgotten my posting about the Music app some years ago 
at that time you were quite vocal in your criticism of my posting about beta 
software.

To reiterate I’ve no problem with anyone discussing anything I’m a list member 
and not a self-appointed moderator.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 27 Feb 2023, at 18:48, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> I get the reasoning, but there is little point in posting if there is a good 
> chance the issue might be caused by the iOS beta since now this has generated 
> several messages where people explain to you how you first have to open the 
> message before you can comment as well as one where the poster explains there 
> is no issue.
> If you are in the habit of participating in public betas and feel posting 
> about apps not behaving as expected when you are using a Beta version is not 
> appropriate here, it might be a good idea to join a group discussing iOS beta 
> software.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 11:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
> 
> My not mentioning what version of iOS I am running was a deliberate act and 
> not an omission.  No matter what we think should be the position regarding 
> discussion of beta software the decision is Mark’s and out of deference and 
> respect to him I chose not to mention it.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 26 Feb 2023, at 23:41, Jessica Dail  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Until Facebook fixes it, you can access it through your browser. I am using 
>> Brave on all of my devices, including iOS and that works extremely well. In 
>> some cases, it even works better than the app itself.
>> Thanks,
>> Jessica
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 26, 2023, at 17:37, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Malcolm mentioned the Facebook version he is using, but he did not mention 
>>> that he is using the iOS 16.4 public beta which is the culpret here.
>>> I am sure this will require a fix from Facebook which wil l be forthcoming, 
>>> but for now if you are a heavy Facebook user you definitely don't want to 
>>> upgrade to the iOS 16.4 public beta.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Penny Reeder
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 12:59 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>>> 
>>> Now you have to open the message first -- before you comment. Then, 
>>> the keyboard will appear. Hope this helps, Penny
>>> 
>>>>> On 2/26/23, alban hoxha  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
>>>> of Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:17:24 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently encountered a problem with Facebook.
>>>> 
>>>> I am using Facebook Version 403.1 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>>>> 
>>>> If I open a post and try to comment on it, VoiceOver says it is in 
>>>> editing mode and at the start of the edit field as I would expect.
>>>> However, the keyboard does not appear and therefore I cannot enter 
>>>> text with either the on screen keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone reproduce this behaviour?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

My not mentioning what version of iOS I am running was a deliberate act and not 
an omission.  No matter what we think should be the position regarding 
discussion of beta software the decision is Mark’s and out of deference and 
respect to him I chose not to mention it.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Feb 2023, at 23:41, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Until Facebook fixes it, you can access it through your browser. I am using 
> Brave on all of my devices, including iOS and that works extremely well. In 
> some cases, it even works better than the app itself.
> Thanks,
> Jessica
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2023, at 17:37, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Malcolm mentioned the Facebook version he is using, but he did not mention 
>> that he is using the iOS 16.4 public beta which is the culpret here.
>> I am sure this will require a fix from Facebook which wil l be forthcoming, 
>> but for now if you are a heavy Facebook user you definitely don't want to 
>> upgrade to the iOS 16.4 public beta.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Penny 
>> Reeder
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 12:59 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>> 
>> Now you have to open the message first -- before you comment. Then, the 
>> keyboard will appear. Hope this helps, Penny
>> 
>>>> On 2/26/23, alban hoxha  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt 
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:17:24 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>>> 
>>> I have recently encountered a problem with Facebook.
>>> 
>>> I am using Facebook Version 403.1 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>>> 
>>> If I open a post and try to comment on it, VoiceOver says it is in 
>>> editing mode and at the start of the edit field as I would expect.  
>>> However, the keyboard does not appear and therefore I cannot enter 
>>> text with either the on screen keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone reproduce this behaviour?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Jessica,

I’m running the same version of iOS as you so that may be the problem.

I’m not sure whether it is permissible to comment on beta versions of software 
here, I know that Applevis has relaxed its rules and I’m sure our Mark will 
clarify the situation.

Thanks for conformation of the issue, I appreciate it.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Feb 2023, at 22:05, Jessica Dail  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Malcolm, 
> I'm running ios16.4 on my iphone 13 pro max & am also having this issue. 
> What version are you running? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Jessica 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 26, 2023, at 16:17, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Penny,
>> 
>> Thanks for your reply, unfortunately no matter what I try I cannot get the 
>> keyboard to appear at all.
>> 
>> If I open a post and double tap the Comment Button, VoiceOver says “editing 
>> insertion point at start” but there’s no keyboard.
>> 
>> I’ve deleted the Facebook app and redownloaded it.  I’ve restarted my iPhone 
>> but to no avail.
>> 
>> This problem has only occurred recently.
>> 
>> Any thoughts welcome, thanks again. 
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 26 Feb 2023, at 20:59, Penny Reeder  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Now you have to open the message first -- before you comment. Then,
>>> the keyboard will appear. Hope this helps,
>>> Penny
>>> 
>>>>> On 2/26/23, alban hoxha  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:17:24 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>> Subject: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>>>> 
>>>> I have recently encountered a problem with Facebook.
>>>> 
>>>> I am using Facebook Version 403.1 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>>>> 
>>>> If I open a post and try to comment on it, VoiceOver says it is in editing
>>>> mode and at the start of the edit field as I would expect.  However, the
>>>> keyboard does not appear and therefore I cannot enter text with either the
>>>> on screen keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone reproduce this behaviour?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Penny,

Thanks for your reply, unfortunately no matter what I try I cannot get the 
keyboard to appear at all.

If I open a post and double tap the Comment Button, VoiceOver says “editing 
insertion point at start” but there’s no keyboard.

I’ve deleted the Facebook app and redownloaded it.  I’ve restarted my iPhone 
but to no avail.

This problem has only occurred recently.

Any thoughts welcome, thanks again. 

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Feb 2023, at 20:59, Penny Reeder  wrote:
> 
> Now you have to open the message first -- before you comment. Then,
> the keyboard will appear. Hope this helps,
> Penny
> 
>> On 2/26/23, alban hoxha  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of
>> Malcolm Parfitt 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:17:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.
>> 
>> I have recently encountered a problem with Facebook.
>> 
>> I am using Facebook Version 403.1 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
>> 
>> If I open a post and try to comment on it, VoiceOver says it is in editing
>> mode and at the start of the edit field as I would expect.  However, the
>> keyboard does not appear and therefore I cannot enter text with either the
>> on screen keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.
>> 
>> Can anyone reproduce this behaviour?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Unable to compose comments in latest Facebook.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have recently encountered a problem with Facebook.

I am using Facebook Version 403.1 on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

If I open a post and try to comment on it, VoiceOver says it is in editing mode 
and at the start of the edit field as I would expect.  However, the keyboard 
does not appear and therefore I cannot enter text with either the on screen 
keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.

Can anyone reproduce this behaviour?

Thanks.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: screen curtain

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If VoiceOver is not running you cannot have Screen Curtain on.

Screen Curtain is only available while VoiceOver is active.

If you were able to enable Screen Curtain without VoiceOver you would be unable 
to use your device as you would have no feedback visual or audio.

You can however disable speech when VoiceOver is running, useful if you are a 
Braille user only.
Malcolm Parfitt

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: 19 February 2023 20:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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Re: Is This Book in English?

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This Applevis podcast is verry helpful in setting up your first Apple Watch.You may be interested in listening to the others too.  They’re a little old but still relevant and helpful.The Apple Watch: Unboxing, Initial Setup, and an Introduction to Using with VoiceOverapplevis.comMalcolm ParfittOn 16 Feb 2023, at 18:51, Fazil M.  wrote:
Should I still call them as I did not get the receipt yet?Thanks! From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 11:52 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Is This Book in English? I would call Apple Accessibility and explain it to them, they can probably help you out or connect you with the right department.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil M.Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:20 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Is This Book in English? I did not get the receipt yet; I purchased it 36 hours ago, does it take that long?Thanks! On Behalf Of Donna Casteen From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna CasteenSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 6:19 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Is This Book in English? You should receive a purchase receipt. In this email there is the ability to report a problem. Donna  Can I return this book? If yes, how can it be done, please?Thanks!  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna CasteenSent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 7:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Is This Book in English? No, the book is not in english. Did you know that the Watch app has the user guide in it? You can also download the Apple Support app & find info. Donna  Hi, Group.Is this book in English?I purchased this from the app Book and when I read table of contents, it appears that the book is not in English; Could someone, please, check it for me?Thanks!Apple Watch:2022 User Guide to Master Apple Watch 8, Apple Watch SE and Apple Watch Ultra with 88+ Tips , Janička Dvořák, -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB4159E1A5A8490C8D26FB98FDC9A39%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/56D06CE3-2DB1-4A4F-950D-446FE5D1F106%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/DS7PR20MB41590F06BCD617FE5850DC6BC9A39%40DS7PR20MB4159.namprd20.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that 

SuperSense update more promised but what and when?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello friends,
This morning I found that Supersense had updated itself.  Here’s what it said:

Hello friends, We'd been receiving many requests from our users and are 
responding to them with the feature updates that have been in highest demand. 
We're thrilled to announce the most recent updates to Supersense below: 1) 
Backend improvements to fix crashes and for a better user experience 2) Dynamic 
font size: Supersense is improved to be more accessible now. All text in the 
app are now font adjustable for our low vision users!  3) Minor bug fixes  More 
exciting news and features are on the way! As always, we appreciate any 
feedback to provide our users with the best solutions. Please let us know what 
you think about Supersense by sending your thoughts to superse...@mediate.tech. 
Happy 2023! The Supersense Team

For as long as I can remember we’ve been promised new and exciting updates but 
they have yet to materialise as far as I can see!

I live in hope of some exciting developments but I’m not holding my breath!


Malcolm Parfitt

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Strange Siri behaviour?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

Recently on my iPhone 12 Pro Max I have noticed something strange happening 
with Siri.

I am alone in the room and the only sound is the TV which is in another room.  
I have Listen for hey Siri enabled and have done so for years without issue.  
Recently however, I have heard Siri say “Hello” and other such phrases followed 
by the tone one gets when Siri is no longer listening, IE the second of the two 
tones.

I have heard that the A device is often triggered by background sounds but have 
never found this to be the case with Siri.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

Thanks.

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Re: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Bill,

I have the 2Nd generation AirPods here and Find My can be used to play a sound 
when the AirPods are out of the case or when they are in the case with the case 
open.  When they are in the case and it is closed sound cannot be played.

Hope this helps you.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 8 Jan 2023, at 10:57, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Mark and all. 
> I am making that same transition with my 8 Plus, also in hopes of doing that 
> same phone transition eventually. I bought mine at Walmart, and it helped I 
> had a $50 gift card to defray the cost. They also had wired ear buds 
> available. I still have a set of those that came with the phone. 
> I have listened to the tutorial from Mystic Access I ws referred to a few 
> days ago.  I wish their presentation had been a bit smoother as they were 
> trying to do things a bit too much on the fly.  
> They were discussing the Pro second generation rather than just second 
> generation. A bit confusing. I wonder if the plain second generation set has 
> the function where the case and pods beep function that makes them easier to 
> find. That would alleviate the concern of losing them a bit. I understand 
> there are different tips that might give a better fit in the ears as well.  
> I have replaced a knockoff brand of wireless ear buds that weren’t 
> controllable nor did they have any way to be found easily. That’s an even 
> bigger deal if you are blind, I think. 
> One thing I don’t like is the box has the model number on it but never says 
> second generation on it. I had Aira look it up and confirm the store had told 
> me correctly they are the Apple AirPods second generation. 
> I haven’t tried to use them other than pairing, so this thread reminds me to 
> go ahead and dive in. 
> Bill 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2023, at 4:36 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a set of Apple Airpods 2Nd generation before I went into hospital 
>> for a lapiscropic nephrectomy in 2020.  I find they give me a good balance 
>> between quality of music and the ability to maintain my awareness of my 
>> surroundings.  I can walk around the house with them unlike many headphones 
>> I have tried in the past.
>> 
>> The only issue I have is that although I’ve used them equally they appear to 
>> discharge at different rates.  My iPhone will often report quite a 
>> significant difference in charge level between the left and right Airpod.
>> 
>> They charge via their case and provided this remains charged I get perfectly 
>> acceptable listening time between charges.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>>> On 8 Jan 2023, at 06:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
>>> I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, 
>>> they happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and 
>>> they just stay in place.
>>> I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little 
>>> things which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or 
>>> later.
>>> Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love 
>>> them and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd 
>>> also say I love them.
>>> As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there 
>>> is nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
>>> speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your 
>>> forehead with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of 
>>> course if you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not 
>>> the right thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into 
>>> those sleep sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most 
>>> comfortable thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I 
>>> often wake up in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily 
>>> playing and I then usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them 
>>> on the side table. You can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look 
>>> for wireless ones because the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that 
>>> of course is sucks. I think I paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 
>>> 3 years ago and they still work great.
>>> I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
>>> another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, 
>>> they con

Re: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I bought a set of Apple Airpods 2Nd generation before I went into hospital for 
a lapiscropic nephrectomy in 2020.  I find they give me a good balance between 
quality of music and the ability to maintain my awareness of my surroundings.  
I can walk around the house with them unlike many headphones I have tried in 
the past.

The only issue I have is that although I’ve used them equally they appear to 
discharge at different rates.  My iPhone will often report quite a significant 
difference in charge level between the left and right Airpod.

They charge via their case and provided this remains charged I get perfectly 
acceptable listening time between charges.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 8 Jan 2023, at 06:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
> I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, 
> they happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and 
> they just stay in place.
> I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little 
> things which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or 
> later.
> Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
> and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say 
> I love them.
> As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there 
> is nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
> speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your 
> forehead with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of 
> course if you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not 
> the right thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those 
> sleep sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most 
> comfortable thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I 
> often wake up in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing 
> and I then usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side 
> table. You can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless 
> ones because the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is 
> sucks. I think I paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and 
> they still work great.
> I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
> another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, 
> they consist of a thick and relatively soft rubbery cable about as thick as 
> your thumb and one each end is a speaker, one has the typical buttons to turn 
> it on/off and for play/pause and volume up/down. I quite like using them at 
> home when I am out in the summer in the garden or even while cooking, your 
> audio is right there more or less in front of your shoulders and you can 
> easily reach up and pause or change the volume.for cert
> But I just bought a new set of Lightning Earpods because they are still my 
> preferred headset, there is no lag and for $24.99 Canadian I get surprisingly 
> good sounding earbuds. I probably go through a pair a year, sometimes a bit 
> longer, but as I said, inexpensive, good and when I don't need them I roll 
> them up around my hand and stick them into my pocket.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Taylor
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> Subject: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I have long been a fan of Apple wired Ear Pods.  
> 
> I had to have my original beloved 8 Plus replaced, about a month prior to its 
> warranty expiration because the audio function of the Lightening port went 
> bad.
> 
> For the last 6-months or so, perhaps longer, while the Lightening port on my 
> replacement 8 Plus still functioned as expected, it lost the ability to 
> retain a cable, unassisted.  This is to say, when I hold the phone in 
> portrait mode, perpendicular to the ground, any attached cable will fall out. 
>  
> 
> I am certain that I was the blame for this as I used to frequently roll onto 
> the phone, when sleeping; very often tangling  the cable with tension for 
> hours at a time.  (How's that for too much information? (smile)).
> 
> My point, I am determined not to ruin the Lightening port on my 14.
> 
> With that in mind, I am doing my best to wing myself from the wired Ear Pods 
> in favor of Apple Air Pods.
> 
> Even though I like Air Pods and they are definitely more convenient to use 
> than the wired alternative, I still find myself reaching for the wired pair, 
> m

Re: connecting external devices to iphone or ipad

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

The link here in the uk on Amazon is:

Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera... 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DGDNL2G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 2 Jan 2023, at 19:30, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please let me have a link for the apple device? I had it l, but 
> like a complete idiot. I seem to have deleted it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2022, at 20:53, Joe Paton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Looking through apple's resources, usb and flash card readers can be 
>> connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more power need the 
>> camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to either lightening ports, 
>> or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and ipads.
>> 
>> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
>> and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
>> the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
>> files.
>> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
>> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
>> to an iphone 12, or ipad with usb 3 ports?
>> 
>> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Happy new year to all.
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,Not sure whether this will address your issue but try the following.Go into Settings and Messages.Navigate to the heading Mentions.In here is a Notify Me button.  Deselect this.  The explanation reads:  When this is on, you will be notified when your name is mentioned even if conversations are muted.Malcolm ParfittOn 2 Jan 2023, at 13:43, Mike B.  wrote:






Good morning Margaret,
 
I don't have Mentions on my rotor and I don't have 
it in Accessibility / Voiceover / Rotor either.  I don't have a clude as 
where or how you would remove it from the rotor.  I tried doing a couple of 
searches for removing the Mentions option from the rotor and only got some 
Youtube links, which I didn't listen to since they're usually done, for and by, 
sighted folks.
Hopefully another list member can help us both out 
with an answer>
 
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Margaret 
Thomas 
To: V iPhone list 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: Mentions and Group Conversations on iPhone
Hi, Mike:The first part went fine, but I'm not finding 
mentions in settings, accessibility, VoiceOver, rotor to delete mentions 
from the rotor.  Is it somewhere else or am I not awake enough 
or...?Thanks,MargaretOn 1/1/2023 11:19 PM, Mike 
B. wrote:> Hi Margaret,> Yes, turn group conversationing 
off.> Yes, turn shared with you off. This has something to do with conten 
> that is shared with you will also be shared with certain apps, whatever 
> the hell that means!> Yes, you can remove mentions from the 
rotor.> Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool.> - Original 
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I'm hoping someone can help me tame a couple things in the iPhone> 
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composing or sending a message, I often hear mention or> mentions or 
mentioned and one of these is in my rotor. My search so far> shows that 
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mentioned. I do not participate in any group conversations.>  
Running IOS 16.1.2, In settings: messages; mentions notify me is off.> 
Group conversationing is on. Am I correct that I want to turn it off?> 
Share name and photo is off;share it with you is on and I think I'm not> 
thrilled about it. Could someone explain this better?> > One 
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I'm not getting a lot of messages from someone or many> unwanted message, 
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Re: iOS / iPad OS Unlock Privacy for Low Vision VoiceOver Users

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Mark,

Glad to read you’re getting along so well with your new iPhone.

I suppose one could temporarily turn off speech and rely on VoiceOver’s clicks 
as guidance.  What I do is to swipe around a bit rather than landing on the 
digits directly so the casual listener does not necessarily know which digits 
were entered.

I think a privacy option could be applied to any input field designated as a 
secure one too for passwords and the like.

One thing that has intrigued me over the years is why on a telephone keypad 1, 
2, and three are above 4, 5, and six whereas on a calculator and tills they are 
below?

Thanks to all list members for your contributions this year and to our Mark for 
moderating the group.  A little early but all the best to you all for 2023.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Dec 2022, at 21:49, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> One thing that I have come to enjoy about all of my Android devices is that,
> if Talk Back is enabled at startup, when entering the device unlock code,
> one can have Talk Back say "dot" instead of saying the actual number or
> letter being entered on the device.  This is extremely convenient and
> private for low vision users who need a screen reader but have enough
> residual vision to be able to enter a passcode when in the company of others
> without having others hear the actual passcode.
> 
> Is there such a feature for iOS and/or iPad OS?  
> 
> Again, just so you understand, on my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10, when
> starting up the device, if I have headphones attached, when entering the
> passcode, Talkback will announce the character being entered. However, I
> have it set so that if headphones are not connected, then Talkback merely
> says "dot" for each character being entered.
> 
> With Face ID, given that one may be required to enter the unlock code more
> than one time after device startup, it would be nice to have such a privacy
> feature for VoiceOver.
> 
> All replies appreciated.
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> Mark
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Re: Question about LiDAR on my 14 Pro.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,I sent the following to the list after your first question on this subject.Here it is again.Try the following to detect and describe more objects. With Magnifier running, double tap the End button to turn detection off. Navigate to the Settings button and double tap it. From the dialog that appears find Settings again and double tap. You should be in another screen read out as Customise Controls. Swipe down or navigate by heading until you get to Detectors. There will be three buttons in here: People Detection, Door Detection and Image descriptions. Double tap each in turn and under the heading Feedback make sure Speech is turned on to enable it for each of the detection methods. You can also enable feedback with Sound and Haptics as well as Speech.By default you can double tap the back of your iPhone to get more information about doors.  This is assuming you’ve not changed any of the commands for VoiceOver.Malcolm ParfittOn 26 Nov 2022, at 19:28, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:I heard Jonathan Mosen’s podcast about ID on the iPhone. Mine does not give the details that his did. It does not say wooden door, it does not say anything about carpet or curtain color. I am wondering why that is. 



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Apple Watch complication update issue.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have an Apple Watch series7 running the latest version of Watch OS.

On my watch face I have today’s date.

For some reason this complication does not automatically update itself.

If I double the complication the Callander app opens at the correct date, but 
Voiceover reads out yesterday’s date when that complication has focus.

Restarting the watch corrects the complication.

All other complications behave as expected.

If I change the complication to Your Schedule also found under the calendar 
heading it updates as expected.  It is the today’s item that will not update 
automatically.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Thanks.

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RE: Screen recognition

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,
Go into Settings, Accessibility and Voiceover.

>From here navigate to Voiceover Recognition and double tap.
Double tap here.

Make sure Screen Recognition is on.

Now swipe through this screen until you reach Apply to Apps.

Double tap here and Voiceover should say Apply to Apps heading.

If you swipe through this screen you should have a list of apps on your device.

You can double tap each app in the list to toggle Screen Recognition on/off for 
each app.

Once you have made your selections double Back in the top left corner.

Hope this helps.

Malcolm
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
Stone
Sent: 20 November 2022 02:00
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Screen recognition

Can anyone tell me how to turn off screen recognition off for a specific app? 
I’ve been round and round voiceover settings, and I can’t work it out.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: testing

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, no problem here in Wales.

Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: LiDAR.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

 

Try the following to detect and describe more objects.

 

With Magnifier running, double tap the End button to turn detection off.

 

Navigate to the Settings button and double tap it.

 

>From the dialog that appears find Settings again and double tap.

 

You should be in another screen read out as Customise Controls.

 

Swipe down or navigate by heading until you get to Detectors.

 

There will be three buttons in here:

 

People Detection, Door Detection and Image descriptions.

 

Double tap each in turn and under the heading Feedback make sure Speech is 
turned on to enable it for each of the detection methods.

 

You can also enable feedback with Sound and Haptics as well as Speech.

 

Hope this helps.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 12 November 2022 21:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: LiDAR.

 

Carolyn,

What app are you using?

 

Tha tis about all the Magnifier does that is built-in.

 

Try Seeing AI’s World channel or the Super Lidar app from the folks who make 
SuperSense.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2022 11:57 AM
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: LiDAR.

 

I have it set up on my new pretty purple 14 Pro, but I think I must have to do 
more stuff. It will tell me door or person, but nothing else right now. 

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Re: found workaround RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,I have found the following to work.Do a four finger tap on the screen wich should land you on the Updates tab.You can then swipe left through the available tabs.Hope this helps.Malcolm ParfittOn 25 Oct 2022, at 17:50, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:Hi richard  Thanx for your help, I found a solution to toggle VO off hit the very middle bottom of the screen and toggle VO bakc again, then you can use the app in a normal way and indeed the tab saved places is there again but as you swipe left tot he tab named explore, you then have these annoying postings again and you can nolonger reach the apps at the bottom of the screen.But because of your taughts, I gave the toggle VO on/off a try and this helpe dus out.Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 16:52Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app BTW, there was also a couple of Google Maps updates in the last week or so, and the Google Maps update may have made those posts larger thus making it harder to get to the tabs below them.  It doesn’t have to be Apple’s fault.Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 6:18 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app Hi Richard  I can it have reproduced by other Belgian inhabitants using voiceover, the things you describe are wrong at least here for us. There is nolonger such a tab on the bottom of the screen, the only thing there is are posts from other users about places you have visited or nearby places. But there nolonger is such a tab. The lower part of the screen is filled up with such stupid posts we don’t want to see or interact wit hand tabs at the bottom of the screen are nolonger visible.Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: dinsdag 25 oktober 2022 14:43Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: Re: saved or favorite places nolonger accessible within google maps app For a few versions now, you can access your saved places on the saved tab at the bottom of the screen. Once you select that tab, all your favorites are right there. Then if you flick up or down on any favorite you will find more options.I double checked just now running 16.1 using VoiceOver.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com  On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:00 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:Hi folks For those hesitating to update apps and frequently using google maps, pleasedo not update then because there are nolonger tabs beneath in the screen andvoiceover users seem to have nolonger access to saved or favorite places inthe app.Davy -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/021101d8e858%248ed046d0%24ac70d470%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/75F8E541-A4FF-4D42-B139-A027C825D97F%40comcast.net.-- The following information is important for all members of the V 

Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I think Mark’s question is perfectly reasonable and has become confused with 
other issues.

Here in the UK my understanding is that iPhone models come with a removable SIM 
tray.  When I discussed ESIM with my provider EE the person I spoke to was far 
from advising me that an ESIM was the way to go.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Oct 2022, at 22:27, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Peter, with all do respect, this is not the same as the removal of the 
> headphone jack.
> 
> In that instance, the jack was removed from all new models of the phone, 
> regardless of from where they were purchased.
> 
> I did not start this thread to engage in a debate.
> 
> Each person is free to purchase his /her preferred device.
> 
> In my case, I will do my best to obtain the model that allows me the greatest 
> wireless carrier flexibility.
> 
> So, let's keep this thread on point; said point being how, if possible, to 
> purchase iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray from within the United States.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
> Logan
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 2:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
> 
> This is like the headphone jack controversy all over again ..  LOL 
> 
> Get ready for it again in a couple of years when the lightening port .. or at 
> the time USBC port goes away ..
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
> 
> Well said, Julian.
> 
> In addition, if I pay the same money for a product as those outside the US, 
> then I expect the same feature set.  It really is that simple.  To me, 
> selling a phone model that does not offer the same features but that costs 
> the same price as the enhanced model, is insulting.
> 
> Just my opinion, of course.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Julian
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 9:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
> 
> For what it's worth, some of us simply just enjoy the freedom of switching 
> our Sim card between phones without having to interact with our carrier. 
> Remember the good ole days of CDMA? Were you had to interact with the carrier 
> and give them your electronic serial number every time you wanted to switch 
> phones? I realize that eSIM is nowhere near as draconian, but still, some of 
> us just enjoy that freedom and enjoy that method and it should not be taken 
> away from us. Therefore, I fully understand why Mark wants to go through the 
> trouble of finding an iPhone 14 that still allows him the flexibility. Not 
> that I'm necessarily in the market for an iPhone 14, but, I will be watching 
> this discussion with interest. I'm certain that some of my clients will asked 
> similar questions so I would like to have good info to give them. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 4:29 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>> 
>> Wondering that too 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> llump...@austin.rr.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
>> with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just fine?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
>> Taylor
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with 
>> a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>> 
>> Hello Everyone, 
>> 
>> And so it begins.
>> 
>> I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone 14 
>> Pro Max.  
>> 
>> It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.
>> 
>> While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to 
>> learn that, according to him, the store has been inundated  by customers who 
>>

Re: Getting deleted messages back

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,Open the Messages App.Locate and double tap the Edit Button on the top left of your screen.Now locate and double tap the Show Recently Deleted Button.You can now swipe through the list of deleted messages, you will be told how many days until they’re permanently deleted.If you swipe down on the message you accidentally deleted you will have a Recover Button.  Double tap this and your message will be restored.Malcolm ParfittOn 15 Oct 2022, at 19:44, colleyd1...@gmail.com wrote:anyone remind me how to get deleted messages back? I accidently deleted something I needed to have. Denise



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Re: Need recommendation for power Bank for Apple Watch Series 8

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Here is the one I use both for my iPhone 12 Pro Max and my Apple Watch Series7 
and my old Series2. Anker PowerCore 1 PD Redux,... 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07PXMF52C?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 9 Oct 2022, at 01:01, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> 
> I have multiple power banks for my iPhone, and they all have a USB output. 
> None of them work with my new Apple Watch. I have been scouring Amazon 
> reading about possible, watch power banks, but thought it would be good to 
> get recommendations of what might really work. So if you have a power bank 
> for your watch, please let me know which one you have if it is a good one.
> Thanks so much,
> Sherrie Gosling
> 
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
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Re: Stopping emails from reading messages

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

If I understand your question correctly, Go into Settings, Mail and Preview.  
Set this to None.

Hope this has resolved your situation.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 9 Oct 2022, at 00:56, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
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> Is there a way to be able to stop your emails from reading part of the 
> messages when they come in?
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
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Re: apple music and turning off autoplay.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

To cancel the Auto Play feature do the following.

With some music playing locate the Mini Player and double tap it to expand it.

You should now be in a Now Playing screen.

In here there are a number of items, one of which should be Auto-Play double 
tap it to turn it off.

Double tap the Dismiss The Now Playing screen and you’re done.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 8 Oct 2022, at 19:17, B. J. Maynard  wrote:
> 
> hi everyone,
> 
> I am getting used to my new iPhone 14 pro from an iPhone 6+.  most of it is 
> similar but, I can not find the setting to turn off auto play when I play an 
> album and it is over, it autoplays similar stuff.  In the player screen I 
> find a now playing auto play  turned on but, when I double tap it to 
> assumingly turn it off it is dimmed.  Can someone help?  If I wanted similar 
> music I would use the radio feature.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> B. J. Maynard 
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Re: Another new Siri limitation

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have just tried asking for various artists and tracks and they all play via 
Apple Music as expected.  I am subscribed to Apple Music and am using an iPhone 
12 Pro Max here in the UK.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2022, at 17:54, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Anaa, it works if I say: play Dire Straits on Apple Music, but if I then 
> say: play The Beatles, I have the sa
> 
>> On 22 Sep 2022, at 17:47, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> Have you tried asking for it on Apple Music, such as “Play Dire Straits on 
>> Apple Music?” Maybe asking it that way once will sort it out.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I get a very strange response which was the case even in iOS 15 and just in 
>>> case somebody assume differently, I am subscribed to Apple Music.
>>> If I ask SIRI "Play Dire Straits" or whatever other artist name or even if 
>>> I specifically ask it to play a specific song I get the reply "Sorry, you 
>>> need to continue in Audible".
>>> I keep meaning to look into this because it's an utterly stupid thing for 
>>> Siri to tell me I have to continue in Audible especially since Siri (or 
>>> Audible) to my knowledge doesn't even support any Siri commands, i.e. it's 
>>> not like I can tell siri to play a particular book in my Audible library, 
>>> skip forward or rewind and so on. If a book is playing asking Siri to stop 
>>> or play does usually work, but that is about  it..
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>>> Yates
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2022 7:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Another new Siri limitation
>>> 
>>> Since updating to 16, I’m noticing that Siri will not pull up an artist 
>>> from Apple Music. I am subscribed to this service, and Siri will only check 
>>> my library, rather than the entire Apple Music catalog. Prior to this, I 
>>> could say, Siri, play, The Beatles “and this “occurred with no problem, 
>>> whether it was in my library or not.
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: apple music vs deezer

[Malcolm Parfitt]

With some music playing double tap the Mini Player to expand it.Locate and double tap Playing Next.You will have a number of items that can be toggled on/off one of which should be Auto Play.  Double tap to toggle on then dismiss that screen.  This should achieve the result you want.Malcolm ParfittOn 17 Sep 2022, at 18:30, Afik Souffir  wrote:







Hi chris, 
 
Thanks for this. 

I actually looking for auto-play.

Auto play should continues play automatically after playlist or album?

 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chris Chaffin
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 8:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: apple music vs deezer


 


 


I am assuming that you are referring to repeat mode, which means when it gets to the end of an album or playlist, instead of stopping, it starts over or continues playing.


I will use a playlist for an example.


 


1, Double tap on the playlist that you want to play.


2, Start playing the playlist.


3, While it is playing, just press side button to envoke Siri, and say turn repeat on.


Now you can also ask Siri to Shuffle if you also want to do that.


 


Now you can also turn it on physically, so here are the instructions.


1, Double tap on playlist that you want to play.


2, I do not know how to get to it without starting to play the playlist first, so swipe to the play button and double tap play.  You can then double tap  it again or do the magic tap to stop it.


3, Go to the bottom of the screen where the taps are and swipe to the left until you get to the mini player, keep swiping until you get to album art work, then double tap that.


4, This will bring up the mini player to cover the screen.  Now go to the bottom of that screen and double tap Playing Next.  This should select it.


5, Now go back to the top of the screen.  there are probably several pages on this screen, so swipe up with 3 fingers until you hear page 1, or if you hear a bong sound, then that means that you are on page 1.


6, Now just swipe until you get to 3 choices, repeat, shuffle, and auto play. Each choice has a toggle switch, so turn on which ever you want.


 


Hope this helps.


 


Chris


 







On Sep 17, 2022, at 12:01 PM, Afik Souffir  wrote:




 

I’m subscribed to Apple one, and its nice!


One think i dont know how to do, is to play music non stop.






On 17 Sep 2022, at 18:55, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:




 
I am sure they offer some sort of free trial so I would recommend you should try it. Apple also offers lossless quality and so does Tidal. I think it really depends on what eco system you want to be in, since we subscribe
 to Apple's big bundle and both my wife and my Mom ae part of that plan it makes sense for us to use Apple Music and in my opinion there is no reason for anybody to subscribe to two music services, it's not like with TV where you most likely definitely want
 Netflix, Disney and whatever other streaming services have the type of shows or movies you like, but music is music and Apple I believe still has as many songs as anybody if not more.

 


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Hi,
 
I’m thinking of starting to use Dizzer music.
 
How is the accessibility there? 
I heard its have the Flac quality, which as far as I know, it’s the best quality.
 
Have any of you use it?
 
 
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Re: problem with deleting text messages

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Thanks for the suggestion but I’ve tried that to no avail.I have now managed to remove it by launching Messages and double tapping Edit.Double tapping Recent Messages and deleting the conversation from there.  Once the conversation was deleted the particular message went too.I have never had this issue before but hope this explanation may help someone.Malcolm ParfittOn 15 Sep 2022, at 15:53, regina alvarado  wrote:I had this problem with a message to. When I asked about it, they said to turn my phone off and back on. I think sometimes things get stuck. Hope this helps you.Reggie Alvarado On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:49 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I have a strange problem deleting a message in iOS16.I recently exchanged a number of messages with my brother who is an Android user.I chose to delete the conversation in the usual way.  However, the last message I sent to him remained on my phone.  I have tried to delete this individual message and I am told that it will be deleted from all devices.  I confirm its deletion but it simply cannot be deleted.  No matter what I do I cannot remove it.I have tried turning of Messages in iCloud, restarting my iPhone but it remains on my device.  I can remove it from my Apple Watch but not from my iPhone.Malcolm ParfittOn 15 Sep 2022, at 15:36, regina alvarado  wrote:I think I misunderstood you. If a message comes in and it’s not in your contacts, it will then ask you if you want to delete it and send it to another box so that you don’t have to put up with spam. if someone knew contacts me that it’s not in my contacts and it’s not spam I automatically put them in my contacts. That’s the way to clear that particular problem off.Reggie Alvarado On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Rena  wrote:In the previous version, it didn’t ask me this question. I just deleted them.Now, besides having to delete one by one, I have to tap several times to get rid of each message. Perhaps there is a way in settings, but I don’t know much yet.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane GiannettiSent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: problem with deleting text messages Rena, my understanding about all that is that it will ask you that only if they are not in your contacts. If they are in your contacts, it shouldn’t ask you that.Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Rena <onyxfran...@gmail.com> wrote:Hello, After the update, every time I delete a text message, it saysYou can report this conversation as junk …I click don’t reportAnd I have to tap on don’t report again. Is there any way to eliminate this report or don’t report issue? Rena -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/044e01d8c90a%248b574d40%24a205e7c0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4CDD3255-EC9D-4F68-A2F2-757DF1209695%40gmail.com.



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Re: problem with deleting text messages

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I have a strange problem deleting a message in iOS16.I recently exchanged a number of messages with my brother who is an Android user.I chose to delete the conversation in the usual way.  However, the last message I sent to him remained on my phone.  I have tried to delete this individual message and I am told that it will be deleted from all devices.  I confirm its deletion but it simply cannot be deleted.  No matter what I do I cannot remove it.I have tried turning of Messages in iCloud, restarting my iPhone but it remains on my device.  I can remove it from my Apple Watch but not from my iPhone.Malcolm ParfittOn 15 Sep 2022, at 15:36, regina alvarado  wrote:I think I misunderstood you. If a message comes in and it’s not in your contacts, it will then ask you if you want to delete it and send it to another box so that you don’t have to put up with spam. if someone knew contacts me that it’s not in my contacts and it’s not spam I automatically put them in my contacts. That’s the way to clear that particular problem off.Reggie Alvarado On Sep 15, 2022, at 10:09 AM, Rena  wrote:In the previous version, it didn’t ask me this question. I just deleted them.Now, besides having to delete one by one, I have to tap several times to get rid of each message. Perhaps there is a way in settings, but I don’t know much yet.   From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Diane GiannettiSent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: problem with deleting text messages Rena, my understanding about all that is that it will ask you that only if they are not in your contacts. If they are in your contacts, it shouldn’t ask you that.Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!On Sep 15, 2022, at 9:53 AM, Rena  wrote:Hello, After the update, every time I delete a text message, it saysYou can report this conversation as junk …I click don’t reportAnd I have to tap on don’t report again. Is there any way to eliminate this report or don’t report issue? Rena -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/044e01d8c90a%248b574d40%24a205e7c0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4CDD3255-EC9D-4F68-A2F2-757DF1209695%40gmail.com.



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Re: Music and downloading

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I think it has something to do with licensing, sometimes you will see tracks 
that are described as unavailable.  Strangely enough sometimes track 
availability is different on an iPhone from what is listed and available in 
iTunes.

When I attempt to play some tracks I’m told this content is not available in 
your country or region but trying to play it a second time it plays without 
problems.  Strange.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 14 Sep 2022, at 10:57, Amy Ruell  wrote:
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> Hello,
> I have an active Apple Music subscription. When I Peru’s artists, I note that 
> some albums are eligible for download and some do not appear to be. Do we 
> know why that is? Thanks.
> Amy.
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Re: New voices iOS 16

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Hello Lana,I don’t know where you are in the world but I come from a town in Wales called Tredegar.We have a dialect that some call Wenglish which is an amalgamation of English and residual Welsh.It is not uncommon for someone to say something like:  “I’ll do it now in a minute” while this makes no sense in a literal sense we know exactly what is meant.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Sep 2022, at 00:03, Lana  wrote:
  

  
  
I would love that. There are some novels with a Welsh and or
  Arthurian setting which cry for a Welsh reader. Then someone could
  pronounce some of those names properly. 

On 9/12/2022 4:36 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
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  What about a voice with a Welsh dialect?  Here in the UK all
  nations are provided for except Wales!
  
  Malcolm Parfitt
  
On 12 Sep 2022, at 23:13, CHELA Robles
   wrote:
  

  
  

  
  Well, sometimes I like hearing the higher quality voices too,
  and sometimes having Siri be my voice of Joyce. I like your
  voice three American. when it comes to Siri, of course :-) it
  is great that Apple took into consideration various options
  for several peoples suggestions. It’s great to have more than
  one voice. Now I have to set up my Apple Watch. It just booted
  up with watchOS 9. but oh, so many voices to choose from I do
  like the Scottish voice I may from time to time use it. but I
  do use the Irish voice in March. Why well you know when Saint
  Paddy‘s day comes along I like to hear the Irish accent. I
  don’t care for Moira much, but I do like the Siri Irish
  voices. I wish they had a series, Scottish voice, or a set of
  male and female Scottish Siri voices that be cool.
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Sep 12, 2022, at 3:04 PM,
  Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
Well, I used to use Eloquence on my
  PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was using
  Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a
  nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was
  when I wore a younger man’s clothes!
 

  --
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  Chaltain at Outlook

 

  
From:
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  On Behalf Of CHELA Robles
  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Her
  voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing
  on some of those voices that offer all three voice
  types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your
  message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing
  your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I
  switched it to eloquence though, because then I can
  hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to
  reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually
  have it set to 70% on my computer if you were
  wondering.

  Sent from my iPhone


  


  
On
  Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain
  <chalt...@outlook.com>
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I was already a fan of Ava, so
  I can’t wait to check out the premium version!
 

  --
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  Chaltain at Outlook

 

  
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  On Behalf Of Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08
  PM
  To: ViPone list <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: New voices iOS 16
  

 

 

Re: OneStep Reader one step behind!

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Hello Richard,Removing camera access and restoring it did not solve the problem for me.Removing and reinstalling it did work however.None-the-less this should not have been necessary!I wonder what the state of development of this app is, that’s assuming it’s still under development?Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Sep 2022, at 00:05, Richard Turner  wrote:I found the same thing.I deleted it and redownlodaed it, gave permision to use the camera, and it works again.Perhaps going into settings on the phone, and toggling the camera permision on and off would also fix it.Richard“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Sep 12, 2022, at 3:50 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:On my iPhone 12 Pro Max all of my apps work well with one exception.  This app just happens to be the most expensive one I own, OneStep Reader.When launched it crashes although it is listed in Task Switcher.Given the cost of this app and the time that developers have had to prepare for iOS16 this is unacceptable!Contrast this with a recent issue with VoiceDream Reader and how quickly it was resolved and it makes it even more intolerable!Malcolm Parfitt-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/B3A4C03A-0940-4FBE-8FF5-752B692FC270%40parfitt1.org.uk.



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OneStep Reader one step behind!

[Malcolm Parfitt]

On my iPhone 12 Pro Max all of my apps work well with one exception.  This app 
just happens to be the most expensive one I own, OneStep Reader.

When launched it crashes although it is listed in Task Switcher.

Given the cost of this app and the time that developers have had to prepare for 
iOS16 this is unacceptable!

Contrast this with a recent issue with VoiceDream Reader and how quickly it was 
resolved and it makes it even more intolerable!Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: New voices iOS 16

[Malcolm Parfitt]

What about a voice with a Welsh dialect?  Here in the UK all nations are provided for except Wales!Malcolm ParfittOn 12 Sep 2022, at 23:13, CHELA Robles  wrote:Well, sometimes I like hearing the higher quality voices too, and sometimes having Siri be my voice of Joyce. I like your voice three American. when it comes to Siri, of course :-) it is great that Apple took into consideration various options for several peoples suggestions. It’s great to have more than one voice. Now I have to set up my Apple Watch. It just booted up with watchOS 9. but oh, so many voices to choose from I do like the Scottish voice I may from time to time use it. but I do use the Irish voice in March. Why well you know when Saint Paddy‘s day comes along I like to hear the Irish accent. I don’t care for Moira much, but I do like the Siri Irish voices. I wish they had a series, Scottish voice, or a set of male and female Scottish Siri voices that be cool.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!
 

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Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice
 singing your whole email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you were
 wondering.

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On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:




 
I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium version!
 

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I personally like the following new voices.


Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.


 


 

 


 


 


 


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Unable to delete a sms message.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I recently exchanged a number of messages with my brother who is an Android 
user.

No longer needing to retain the conversation I deleted it in the usual way.

No matter what I do the most recent message I sent to him and the last in the 
conversation remains on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.

I have turned messages off in iCloud but I cannot delete this particular 
message.

I have turned the device on and off but when I try to delete the message it 
just will not go.

Not an enormous problem but somewhat irritating.

I can delete the message from my series 7 Apple Watch.

I have no idea why this particular message cannot be removed from my iPhone it 
does not contain anything other than plain text.

As anyone experienced anything simular and if so did you resolve it and how?

Thanks.

Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: labeling an unlabeled button

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you know what the buttons do, perform a two finger double tap and hold.  You 
can then enter the text for the button, swipe to and double tap Save and your 
button will be labeled.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Jun 2022, at 19:18, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I'm wondering if there is a way to label unlabeled buttons in 
> an app. Unfortunately several of the buttons in some of the apps for my robot 
> vacuums are not labeled and so Voiceover just says "button" when swiping to 
> them, I've emailed the companies about this issue but who knows if they will 
> address it so thought I might try labeling them myself.
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Re: Convert .ISO file to windows format

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Not sure I understand your question correctly, but if you want to extract mp3 
files from an iso image take a look at:

https://www.isobuster.com/

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 13 Jun 2022, at 13:41, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I tried program
> Pazera_Free_Audio_Extractor_64bit_PORTABLE
> And I could not get it to work. 
> Anyone know free apps or windows software to convert .ISO to MP3, MP4, Wav or 
> other windows formats?
> Thanks,
> Ann
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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If you want to add a label to a particular photo then do the following.

Open the photo you would like to label.

At the top right of the screen double tap Edit.

Swipe through the options and double tap Markup.

Now locate the Add Button and double tap it.

Locate Description And double tap.

You now have an edit field where you can type your description.

Locate Done and double tap.  You can press Done on subsequent dialogs until you 
are back to your photo.

You can press Back to return to your photos list and add labels to other photos 
if you wish.

Now when you swipe through your photos your description should be read out by 
Voiceover.

You can also add names to people that appear in your photos too if you wish.

Open a photo and locate and double tap the Info Button.

Swipe through the screen that appears.  You will hear Voiceover say Unnamed 
Person Button.  Double tap here and you can enter the person’s name.  Now when 
you swipe through your photos you will be informed when the system thinks a 
particular person is detected in a photograph.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 May 2022, at 15:53, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can be 
> managed via the Photos App.
> 
> As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your phone 
> you should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.
> 
> Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you find 
> one you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should tell you 
> the item has been selected.  Repeats this process until you have selected all 
> the items you want to delete.
> 
> Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a Delete 
> Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, double tap to 
> confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are deleted.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos that I 
>> have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I caption a 
>> photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a bug in how photos 
>> work in ios. I also would like to know where the storage feture is in ios? 
>> And if some one knows how to get around this hole caption thing and making 
>> the captions stick and not having them go to different photos etc? many 
>> thanks. From Mich.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
>> Sent: May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>  
>> Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?
>> What about videos? Do I have a video app?
>>  
>> Rena
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>>  
>> Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a Select 
>> Button.  Double tap this.
>>  
>> Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you no 
>> longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should be 
>> announced as selected.  Once you have selected the items for deletion 
>> towards the bottom right you should find a Delete Button.  Double tap this 
>> to delete the items you have selected.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>  
>> 
>> On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete anything. 
>> I don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.
>> Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Rena
>>  
>>  
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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Yes, you do not need to open Settings.  All your videos and photos can be 
managed via the Photos App.

As I said, open the Photos App.  At the top towards the right of your phone you 
should find a Select Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe right through the photos and videos on your phone.  When you find one 
you want to delete double tap it to select.  Voiceover should tell you the item 
has been selected.  Repeats this process until you have selected all the items 
you want to delete.

Now at the bottom of your screen on the right hand side should be a Delete 
Button.  Double tap and you may have a confirmatory prompt, double tap to 
confirm and your photos and or videos you selected are deleted.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 May 2022, at 15:35, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi I also would like to know this as well. Sadley a lot of the photos that I 
> have I don’t have them captiond since I have found that when I caption a 
> photo it will sadley caption the wrong photo or there is a bug in how photos 
> work in ios. I also would like to know where the storage feture is in ios? 
> And if some one knows how to get around this hole caption thing and making 
> the captions stick and not having them go to different photos etc? many 
> thanks. From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
> Sent: May 23, 2022 10:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>  
> Does it mean that I don’t have to open storage to delete photos?
> What about videos? Do I have a video app?
>  
> Rena
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2022 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?
>  
> Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a Select 
> Button.  Double tap this.
>  
> Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you no 
> longer want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should be announced 
> as selected.  Once you have selected the items for deletion towards the 
> bottom right you should find a Delete Button.  Double tap this to delete the 
> items you have selected.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
>  
> 
> On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete anything. I 
> don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.
> Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Rena
>  
>  
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Re: How can I delete photos and videos from my iPhone SE2?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Launch the Photos app and at the top of the screen you should have a Select 
Button.  Double tap this.

Now swipe through your photos and videos and double tap the ones you no longer 
want to keep.  As you double tap then their status should be announced as 
selected.  Once you have selected the items for deletion towards the bottom 
right you should find a Delete Button.  Double tap this to delete the items you 
have selected.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 May 2022, at 21:06, Rena  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I went to storage, but I was confused and I didn’t dare to delete anything. I 
> don’t want to delete any app, but only photos and videos.
> Please, explain how can delete videos and photos.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Rena
>  
>  
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Re: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Mary,

I use caliber with Narrator as I am not a JAWS user.  For the record I use 
Dolphin’s Screen Reader as my primary access software.

caliber is a little tricky to use as Narrator loses focus especially when 
selecting your output format.  If you Tab and Shift Tab out of and back into 
the format list you can make your selection and do the convert.  While not 
ideal, it certainly can be used.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 4 May 2022, at 05:03, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi Vicki,
> 
> Since these apps are several years old, I'm sure they would work fine on 
> Windows 7. I needed sighted help to sign into the Kindle app, but after that, 
> it was accessible. Be sure to tab to Options, go into it, and turn off 
> automatic updating.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 7:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for this. Do you know which version will work on Windows 7?
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Malcolm Parfitt" 
>> 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2022 4:03 PM
>> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
>> VoiceOver
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello Anna,
>>> 
>>> I use calibre - E-book management To convert Epub books the Windows version
>>> can be obtained from:
>>> 
>>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_windows
>>> 
>>> A direct link to the file on my Dropbox is:
>>> 
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cusp0kqc6wh4ciq/calibre-5.42.0.msi?dl=1
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: 03 May 2022 19:46
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not
>>> support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's
>>> pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be
>>> software that could convert Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end
>>> up with an image-based file, such as an images-only PDF, I can run it
>>> through Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm fine if the
>>> software creates an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do
>>> this? I have access to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is
>>> fine.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar
>>> mitzvah in a couple of weeks.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
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Re: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Anyone interested in EPub editions of books may like to take a look at:

https://z-lib.org/

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 4 May 2022, at 00:21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Alan,
> Thanks for the heads up.
> 
> I sent a message to the list, which you probably already saw.  It is now 
> available on my web site.
> 
> It is linked off my useful apps page.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I hope Codex by James Scholes is still available. When I executed the link to 
> the Codex project provided in your link below, I received a Error 1016 Origin 
> DNS error. I also got this error when I tried executing a previously made 
> bookmark to Codex using Firefox.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with 
> VoiceOver
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Here is a snippet from my web site's Useful Apps page:
> I just did this with a book today in fact.
> Codex by James Scholes
> Here is a little section from his web site. I encourage any avid readers to 
> follow the link below and read about it and install the utility.
> A few years ago, I wrote a tutorial which guided people through the 
> installation and configuration of software for the purposes of gaining access 
> to books purchased from the Amazon Kindle Store. The guide proved popular, 
> but it required heavy use of the command line, making it unsuitable and 
> daunting for quite a lot of people, not to mention that it was an absolute 
> nightmare to troubleshoot if anything went wrong. Which it frequently did.
> Subsequently, in 2014, I started to develop a small prototype application to 
> make the process easier and more intuitive, not only for people wanting to 
> read Kindle eBooks, but also for me when people needed help. I named it 
> Codex, a word used from the 16th century onwards to denote, now ancient, 
> manuscripts in book form. In the second half of 2015, I finally rewrote that 
> prototype to include the functionality I wanted it to have from the start, 
> and the software is now publicly available to download.
> Please note, that you can only convert books you have purchased and only for 
> your use--you cannot share them with others without violating the copyright 
> laws and cheating the author out of their tiny royalties.
> In order to convert your Kindle books with Codex, you will need to install 
> Kindle For PC version 1.17, which you can get here:
> KindleForPC-installer-1.17.44183: 
> http://turner42.com/KindleForPC-installer-1.17.44183.exe
> 
> Codex project web site: 
> http://jscholes.net/how-to-remove-drm-from-kindle-books-with-codex-2/
> 
> I use the convert to ePub and then put it in Voice Dream Reader and you get 
> all the headings, etc.
> 
> I very much doubt it will work with images.  IN fact, I'm pretty sure it 
> won't, so I hope the book also has real text and the pictures are just 
> getting in the way.
> 
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2022 11:46 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not 
> support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's 
> pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be 
> software that could convert Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end 
> up with an image-based file, such as an images-only PDF, I can run it through 
> Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm fine if the software creates 
> an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do this? I have access 
> to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is fine.
> 
> Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar 
> mitzvah in a couple of weeks.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
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Re: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Anna,

Yes it does, if you want to send me the file I’ll happily convert the file for 
you.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 4 May 2022, at 00:10, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hello Malcolm,
> 
> Does Calibre convert Kindle eBooks?
> 
> Thanks,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anna,
>> 
>> I use calibre - E-book management To convert Epub books the Windows version
>> can be obtained from:
>> 
>> https://calibre-ebook.com/download_windows
>> 
>> A direct link to the file on my Dropbox is:
>> 
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cusp0kqc6wh4ciq/calibre-5.42.0.msi?dl=1
>> 
>> Malcolm
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Woody
>> Anna Dresner
>> Sent: 03 May 2022 19:46
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>> Subject: accessing a Kindle eBook that refuses to play nicely with VoiceOver
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I purchased  a Kindle eBook on my phone and was told, "VoiceOver does not
>> support this content." It's a Jewish prayerbook, and odds are that it's
>> pictures of the pages, rather than the actual text. I know there used to be
>> software that could convert Kindle eBooks into accessible formats. If I end
>> up with an image-based file, such as an images-only PDF, I can run it
>> through Voice Dream Reader to recognize the text, so I'm fine if the
>> software creates an image file. Does anyone know of software that can do
>> this? I have access to computers running MacOS and Windows, so either is
>> fine.
>> 
>> Thanks so much for any help! I'd like to have this for my nephew's bar
>> mitzvah in a couple of weeks.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
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