Re: KNFB Reader for Windows 10 VS OpenBook 9

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Openbook has a check orientation feature. I use this feature to make 
sure I'm inserting checks into my laser printer. This feature is one of my 
requirements. 

> On Mar 4, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> KNFB Reader for Windows 10 in this first version does not hold a candle to 
> any other OCR solution on Windows!
> Granted, I'm comparing an inexpensive option with a very expensive one, but 
> if KNFB intends to be a real option in the Windows computing world, they have 
> an extremely long way to go.
> I have a Toshiba Satellite S 55 laptop running Windows 10 Anniversary edition 
> and a Canon LIDE 110 flatbed scanner.
> 
> I just scanned the same page with OpenBook 9 and KNFB Reader for Windows 10.
> As far as speed goes, KNFB Reader and Openbook tied. They both start reading 
> before the scanner is ready for the next page.
> KNFB Reader can export to DOCX files, while OpenBook still exports to DOC 
> files, the older MS-Word format.
> When I open the KNFB Reader DOCX file, I get the warning that files from the 
> internet can harm your computer and I have to hit f6 to get to the point of 
> being able to make the document editable.
> With OpenBook, it simply opens in compatibility view.
> Both pages passed the spell check without any errors.
> Now, for my pet Peeve.
> The KNFB Reader file takes up 2.81 inches of the document.
> The OpenBook copy takes up 6.37 inches of the document, which is correct. The 
> page has just over half a page of text. 
> 
> 
> OpenBook maintains the line breaks, while KNFB Reader does not.
> 
> For what it is worth, I also tested with the latest versions of TextGrabber 
> and Prizmo on the iPhone.
> "" They both maintain line breaks and had no errors.
> Prizmo has some new VoiceOver issues in their latest version, but Textgrabber 
> seems to be much improved.
> I'll have to test that more. It is far less smooth for saving files, etc., 
> but I'm getting really tired of losing all the line breaks with KNFB Reader.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when 
> there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." - Terry Pratchett
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RE: PaWhat's the best password app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. I use 1Password. My wife and I have a shared vault and it works very 
well across al devices. I didn’t take the time to compare a bunch of password 
apps. I tried 1password and it works very well with Voiceover the Shared Vault 
is a great feature. The feature is 1password teams and it’s subscription based.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Frank
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 8:27 AM
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Subject: PaWhat's the best password app

 

What is the best Voiceover accessible password safe application. My wife said 
there are a lot of new ones but I do not know which ones are accessible. Thanks 
for your help.

Tom Frank

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RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Sieghard.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

The magic tap is simply a 2-finger double tap, same as what you use on the 
iPhone for answering/hanging up calls, starting/stopping playback etc.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Hunt
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

Hello Sieghard. I assume then that the magic tap is the gesture that you use to 
wake up the Apple Watch. I'll try hitting the digital crown.
Thanks so much.
Paul


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

I have had mixed results with the magic tap. I also find that sometimes when I 
tap the watch just once nothing happens and I have to press the digital crown 
to wake it up other times I do a 1-finger double tap because I want the time 
silently as vibrations and it wakes up and jabbers away.
What seems to work consistently for me with respect to answering calls is to 
press the digital crown when the phone/watch rings as it seems to always place 
focus on the answer button this way.

Regards,
Sieghard


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Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:29 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

Hi Paul,

Try the Magic Tap (two-finger double-tap). This usually works to answer the 
call. You can also use it to hang up a call.

Best,
Anna



> On Dec 15, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody. I've had my Apple Watch for a year and like it very much. 
> However, I have difficulty answering calls. By the time I find the Answer 
> button, I've missed the call. When the phone rings, where is focus placed on 
> the Apple Watch? If you can answer calls consistently, how do you do it?
> Thanks so much.
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RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Sieghard. I assume then that the magic tap is the gesture that you use to 
wake up the Apple Watch. I'll try hitting the digital crown.
Thanks so much.
Paul


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

I have had mixed results with the magic tap. I also find that sometimes when I 
tap the watch just once nothing happens and I have to press the digital crown 
to wake it up other times I do a 1-finger double tap because I want the time 
silently as vibrations and it wakes up and jabbers away.
What seems to work consistently for me with respect to answering calls is to 
press the digital crown when the phone/watch rings as it seems to always place 
focus on the answer button this way.

Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:29 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Answering calls on my Apple Watch

Hi Paul,

Try the Magic Tap (two-finger double-tap). This usually works to answer the 
call. You can also use it to hang up a call.

Best,
Anna



> On Dec 15, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody. I've had my Apple Watch for a year and like it very much. 
> However, I have difficulty answering calls. By the time I find the Answer 
> button, I've missed the call. When the phone rings, where is focus placed on 
> the Apple Watch? If you can answer calls consistently, how do you do it?
> Thanks so much.
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Answering calls on my Apple Watch

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I've had my Apple Watch for a year and like it very much. 
However, I have difficulty answering calls. By the time I find the Answer 
button, I've missed the call. When the phone rings, where is focus placed on 
the Apple Watch? If you can answer calls consistently, how do you do it?
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Purchasing Apple Care Plus for an iPad Air 2 from the Apple Store app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I'm trying to buy an iPad Air 2 for my wife but can't add 
Apple Care plus to my bag. Have any of you been able to do this?

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Re: DirecTV accessibility via the iPhone?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Donna and Mary. I also use the Direct TV app. It's easy to find out what 
time a show is on a particular channel. It's also easy to manage recordings. 
It's difficult to turn on audio description. I understand that set top boxes 
and receivers must be accessible by December 20, 2017.

> On Nov 19, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Donna. This sounds promising. Did it matter which receiver you got in 
> terms of using the app to the maximum? Are there differences in accessibility 
> for different receivers? That is, is there any accessibility actually built 
> into the receiver that you have or others that you know of? I'm thinking hear 
> of something equivalent to the Xfinity thing. My guess is no, since cable 
> boxes are not covered under that law that is supposed to make cable and TV 
> sets actually become accessible starting next year.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 6:35 AM, Donna  wrote:
>> 
>> The Direct Tv app is 100% accessible!! There is also a voice feature that 
>> one can use to locate programs & channels. I love this app because I'm able 
>> to watch all of the channels I have subscribed to & also watch programs I 
>> have recorded while away from home. I can also schedule a recording of a 
>> program when away from home. The best accessible Tv viewing app I have come 
>> across. 
>> 
>> Donna
>>> 
>>> I never thought I would say this, but we might be looking into getting 
>>> direct TV. This is because I just saw what our Comcast bill will be, once 
>>> our contract ends next month. The word unacceptable doesn't even start to 
>>> cover it. Anyway, I see there is an app for DirecTV, and it seems like the 
>>> app will do a lot. But the question is, does anyone use this app? What 
>>> parts of it are and are not accessible? Can you actually control the 
>>> receiver, which I assume is worthless from an excess ability standpoint? 
>>> What can and can't do you do from the app?
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Sometimes VoiceOver doesn't speak when navigating in edit fields

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Recently I've noticed that VoiceOver doesn't always speak 
characters, words or lines when I navigate with the one finger flick up and 
down gestures. I noticed this behavior in Microsoft Word. The behavior seems to 
be intermittent. Have any of you experienced this?

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Bluetooth compatible Bone Conduction headphones for Blind Square

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I just purchased Blind Square and  need a bluethooth 
compatible pair of bone conducting headphones. Do you have recommendations for 
me?
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Re: Talking thermostat, analog or digital?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Talking thermostats should work and sometimes they don't. I 
bought a Calvin talking thermostat and had it installed. It would freeze up and 
I would have to reset and reprogram it. So try them but realize that they may 
not work as you expect them to operate.  

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 10:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think the landlord doesn’t know what he is talking about. An analogue 
> thermostat has 3 wires and the same three wires connect to regular 
> digital/programmable thermostats. The talking thermostats which are not Wi-Fi 
> connected are simply regular digital/programmable thermostats except that 
> they have speech output and they should work anywhere an analogue one works.
> Wi-Fi connected thermostats do generally require a fourth wire which provides 
> power to the thermostat, the Wi-Fi radio needs to be powered and I can see 
> where this could be an issue in a building where this fourth wire is not 
> present.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Talking thermostat, analog or digital?
>  
> There are no analog thermostats that I know of that talk.  It requires 
> digital output to a speech chip to provide the spoken information.
> I’m surprised your place cannot take anything but analog.
> Honeywell, I believe it is, makes a very good tactile thermostat, which we 
> currently have.  It is a simple dial with good marks that are easy to feel 
> and my wife just put a bump dot at 70 on the moving part and the stationary 
> part so if I line them up it is set to 70 and I can judge moving it up or 
> down from there if needed.
> We also have Air conditioning, so the same bumps work for that in the hot 
> weather.
> The thermostat has a simple, three position switch with off in the middle, 
> cool in the down position and heat in the up position.
> I’ll check and see if I can get the model number if you are interested.
>  
> I’d have the landlord talk to the folks at Talking Thermostats about the set 
> up for the VIP 3000 to make sure it wouldn’t work.
>  
> We are going to buy that one when we get our furnace service scheduled in the 
> next month or so.
>  
> Later,
> Richard
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jenifer Barr
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Talking thermostat, analog or digital?
>  
> This is digital... I actually need analog. 
> Thanks for the link though. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> The VIP 3000 looks really good, has a 5 year warrantee and everything talks, 
> so using the iPhone is not necessary.
>  
> https://www.talkingthermostats.com/blind.shtml
>  
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
> On Oct 10, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> My mom wants to buy me a talking thermostat or one that works with my
> phone but my landlord said that our heating system seems to not work
> with digital thermostats.  Do any of you know of one that is analog
> but will still work with the home kit in IOS 10?
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: Talking thermostat, analog or digital?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Jennifer. We love our iDevices and all things digital that talk. We tried 
the Calvin talking thermostat and had lots of problems with it. So we purchased 
a Honeywell thermostat from ILA. It doesn't work with our iPhones . It has 
tactile markings every two degrees. Sometimes low tech solutions are great.

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
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> Hi all.
> My mom wants to buy me a talking thermostat or one that works with my
> phone but my landlord said that our heating system seems to not work
> with digital thermostats.  Do any of you know of one that is analog
> but will still work with the home kit in IOS 10?
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: adt alarm app

[Paul Hunt]

I agree although I don't spend lots of time with the app. I use it to disarm my 
security panel just before I get home. I can also arm it if I forget to do it 
before I leave home.

> On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have to respectfully disagree.  It isn't as accessible as it used to be in 
> prior incarnations but it is still usable with VoiceOver yes. Nearly all on 
> screen elements are labeled and those whose labels are a bit more ambiguous 
> can still be figured out without causing any unintended consequences.
> I should also note that if you have one of their pulse systems including 
> other things such as light controls or cameras and such their web portal 
> works a bit better with screen readers if accessed through FireFox as opposed 
> to IE11 on the Windows side of things.
> The My ADT app for account management is accessible as well.
> I hope that helps.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adt alarm app
> 
> Last I checked, no.
> 
>> On 10/7/2016 3:20 AM, david gross wrote:
>> does anyone have adt alarm cellular wireless alarm service?
>> 
>> is their app voiceover friendly?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: Apple watch

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Jeremy. I love my Apple watch and use it all the time. It is the coolest 
and unnecessary device that I've ever owned. For this reason I would replace 
the watch when I could no longer update the Watch OS. 

> On Sep 24, 2016, at 10:18 PM, Jeremy Gilley  wrote:
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> Ok,
>  
> So, I am a guy who likes his toys, but because I like my toys, I tend to not 
> care of the pricing of them as long as they are well worth the money.
> So, the first watch that came out, I didn't think twice about not getting it 
> because it was just the first version.
> I am now thinking of buying the new version, however, something is making me 
> pause.
> Do you think these watches will come out as frequently as the phones?
> If so, man, that might be a stinker because I usually get a new phone every 
> single time they come out with a new one. Buying a watch on top of a new 
> phone might get nuts. Not to mention expensive.
> Thoughts?
> I guess if you get a new watch each year, one will learn to sell or put old 
> watch on E-Bay?
> Anyways, for those of you who got version one, and now version 2 of the watch 
> that just came out, what are your views and or opinions?
> Do you think you will get a new watch every single year they come out?
> Or is it one of those things you play it by ear as each one comes out. If it 
> is a massive improvement yeah, but if it is just meh, then you wait?
> Anyways, I look forward to views and or opinions.
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Re: Watch OS 3.0 - Viration time!

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Christopher. You're right. It sometimes takes a second or two for the 
Apple Watch to respond.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 1:44 PM, christopher hallsworth  
> wrote:
> 
> Figured it out. There is a specific rhythm of doing the taps. Don’t double or 
> triple tap like you usually do. Instead, tap, then half a second later do 
> another tap, and so on.
>> On 15 Sep 2016, at 23:22, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> If you triple tap you will only get the minutes of the time, double tap you 
>> will get the full time.
>> 
>> I hope this helps,
>> 
>> Ed
>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:02 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was already on and set to digits on my watch now running watchOS 3. It 
>>> might be me though, but I am getting inconsistencies. Sometimes I get the 
>>> full pattern, sometimes I get just the minutes, other times though I just 
>>> get the time spoken, no haptic feedback. Again though it’s probably me 
>>> while I get accustomed to the very useful feature.
 On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:22, Timothy Emmons  wrote:
 
 Hi Claudio and folks, I just updated to Watch OS 3, and I can't figure out 
 the haptic time as described here. Is there something I need enabled? Just 
 curious. Thanks.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The preview doesn't work in iOS 10 even with hints on.
> It could be this three finger tap is the solution.
> Richard
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 11:03 AM, Claudio Levantini  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> The best new feature in Watch OS 3.0 is the "Vibration time".
>> This is not the official name.
>> With Voice Over on and the screen locked, tap twice on the watch.
>> It buz like a morse signal.
>> Teh code is very simple:
>> long vibrations stand for 10 unit;
>> short vibrations stand for 1 unit.
>> Examples:
>> 12.05 (1 logng, 2 shorts, pause, 5 shorts)
>> 23.59 (2 longs, 3 shorts, pause 5 longs, 9 shorts)
>> 
>> For me it's a very beatiful mode, useful when it is not so  polite to 
>> speech the time.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Claudio
>> 
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Re: Please Confirm a VoiceOver Bug in Native iOS 10 Mail App Regarding Threaded View

[Paul Hunt]

Hello mark. Yes, i confirmed this bug.

> On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:36 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> 
> There have been so many posts sent lately that I have lost track so please
> indulge me in asking for confirmation of a very annoying bug in the native
> iOS 10 Mail app, regarding the threaded view.
> 
> Here are my major settings for Mail.  
> 
> Preview, None.
> Organize by Thread, On.
> Most Recent Message on Top, Off.
> Complete Thread, Off.
> 
> Here are the steps I take to read threads:
> 
> 1.
> Open the Mail app.
> 
> 2.
> Place focus on a collapsed thread.
> 
> 3.
> Select Expand Thread via the VoiceOver Rotor.  At this point, the thread
> expands downward.  
> 
> 4.
> Now, I single-finger swipe to the right in order to move to the first
> message listed below the subject line of the thread and, as is expected, the
> text of the message is read, out by VoiceOver.
> 
> The problem is that, regardless of the status of the, "Most Recent Message
> on Top", toggle, the first message just below the thread's subject line is
> always the most recent post to the thread.  As a consequence, if I want to
> read the original post to a thread, I have to swipe all the way down to the
> bottom of the list area and reverse swipe back up.  
> 
> Does this make sense and are any of you encountering this issue?  
> 
> Again, thank you for your indulgence on this.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Taptic Time working intermittently on my Apple Watch

[Paul Hunt]

Good morning everybody. I set up Taptic Time. I love the feature. However, 
sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I activate it with a 1 finger 
double tap. Is there a fix for this?
Thanks so much.

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Re: what calendar do people use?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Anouk. I use the native IOS calendar app. I also have a Windows 10 
laptop. The calendars work well on both.

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:25 AM, Anouk Radix  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
> I now use a textfile as an agenda/calendar but that does not continue to work 
> well as things get bussier and I need to use it on the go. What efficient 
> crossplatform accessible calendar do you use?
> Thanks in advance
> Greetings, Anouk,
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Re: Interesting problem with mail, need help please!

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Terri. I suspect that you might have the complete threading turned on. If 
you turn this setting off they should go away. You'll find it in the mail 
settings in the threading section.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 5:42 AM, Terri Stimmel  
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> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have an odd problem that has occurred within  mail. I am not sure why 
> this happened, as it hasn't ever happened before. But I am hoping 
> someone can tell me how to fix the issue.
> 
> 
> I use both my laptop, and my Iphone to check my mail. Usually if I 
> delete stuff from the laptop, it goes away on the Iphone. Usually the 
> same thing happens, if I delete stuff from the Iphone.
> 
> 
> However, just about an hour ago, or so, I was going through the mail on 
> my laptop. I deleted about 3, or 4 messages I didn't want.
> 
> 
> Well about a half an hour later, I looked at the email on my phone, and 
> I saw that those messages were still there. I thought that was odd, but 
> didn't think much of it. I have attempted to delete them a few times 
> now. But I always get the same message, the messages can not be deleted 
> and moved to trash.
> 
> 
> Has anyone else had this problem?
> 
> If so, what can I do about it?
> 
> I hope I can do something, because I certainly don't want these messages 
> hanging around.
> 
> 
> Any help, or suggestions will be much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: the u-verse apps

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Here are the steps.
1. Select the remote tab.
2. Double tap the info button.
3. Double tap the Right button twice.
4. Double tap the down button.
5. Double tap the ok button.
To turn off Audio Description, switch channels. Enjoy. 

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 6:17 AM, <pattigj1...@gmail.com> <pattigj1...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I use the uverse app as well, but how can you turn on audio description with 
> it, I have not seen that feature.
> Thanks,
> Patti
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Hunt
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 6:43 AM
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> Subject: Re: the u-verse apps
>  
> Hello everybody. Yes, the uverse app is accessible for me. I can use the 
> guide, manage recordings and turn on audio description.
> 
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Gordon <gor...@gordonradio.com> wrote:
> 
> I find the At Uverse app to be very accessible. I can view, schedule and 
> delete recordings. Watching live tv is also really easy. Haven't played with 
> the on demand stuff, but given the layout of everything else I would think 
> that it would work well.
> 
>  
> On 7/30/2016 11:27 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
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> do they have any accessibility problems?  Thanks.
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Re: the u-verse apps

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Yes, the uverse app is accessible for me. I can use the guide, 
manage recordings and turn on audio description.

> On Jul 30, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Gordon  wrote:
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> delete recordings. Watching live tv is also really easy. Haven't played with 
> the on demand stuff, but given the layout of everything else I would think 
> that it would work well.
> 
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The Direct tv app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I just ordered Direct tv and am trying to create my account. I 
can either use my account number and last name or my phone number last four 
digits of my account number and my last name. I can't enter my last name. Have 
any of you gotten this to work?
Thanks so much.

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Re: cutting and pasting text

[Paul Hunt]

Did you double tap to get focus into the edit field? 

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 12:16 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> i just can't flick left, it goes all over the sc reen, my gesture is 
> horrible, i'm right handed, which is rhy i probably flick better right, but i 
> see no edit at all when i flick right which makes no sense at all.
> 
>> On 7/10/2016 1:04 AM, Eleanor burke wrote:
>> I always do my rotor to the left my first option is language and my second 
>> option is edit.
>> 
>>> On 9 Jul 2016, at 20:24, Jed Barton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Still no go, can you be more detailed?  I went into the notes app, did the 
>>> roter and there is no edit option
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:04 PM, Eleanor burke  
 wrote:
 
 Touch your finger on the screen before you activate the rotor and then the 
 edit will come up. then swipe down with one finger until you get paste. 
 that might mean you swiping down with one finger and number of times.
 
> On 9 Jul 2016, at 19:52, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Ok so i copied the text, now the problem is pasting it in the notes app
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:29 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> the original text file needs to be in an editing mode for the edit rotor 
>> feature to appear.  At least, that's how it used to work.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jed Barton" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 6:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: cutting and pasting text
>> 
>> 
>> i don't see edit at all in my roter, any idea why, or how to add it?
>> 
>>> On 7/9/2016 1:24 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Once you have the file open in the Dropbox app you should be able to 
>>> turn the rotor to "Edit", then flick up or down with one
>>> finger until you find "Select All", double tap at that point. Now open 
>>> whatever app you want to paste the text to, turn the rotor
>>> to edit again and flick up or down until you find "Paste" then double 
>>> tap.
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:51 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: cutting and pasting text
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> OK, i need some help here, just cause i haven't done it.  I have a text 
>>> file that i wrote in notepad in the PC, and it is saved to
>>> dropbox.  It looks like i can open that file on the iphone.  How do i 
>>> copy all the text from that file, in to the clipboard on the
>>> phone and paste it in to another app, any ideas?
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Re: grocery ap

[Paul Hunt]

Also, try Anylist. If you like it, I suggest the paid version.

> On Jun 27, 2016, at 7:37 AM, shirley  wrote:
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> Thanks. I'll try it.
> Shirley
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> 
> I use shopshop. It works well!
> 
> Hope Paulos
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:31 AM, shirley  wrote:
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>> I am looking for an ap which will allow me to make a grocery list? I live in 
>> ireland so a US based ap wont do. Anyone know of any aps that will do this?
>> shirley
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Re: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Richard. There is a keystroke. I'll give it a try.

> On Jun 11, 2016, at 2:01 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
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> Assuming you are using all the latest versions, the only thing I can think of 
> is that Quick Nav was on.
> 
> I don't recall if there is a keystroke to turn it off with a braille display, 
> but you can do that with a Bluetooth keyboard with the left and right arrow 
> keys together.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display
> 
> Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 
> 40 braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
> Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
> current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
> follow the cursor?
> Thanks so much.
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Using Microsoft Word on my iPhone 6S with my BI 40 Braille display

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Today I took notes at a meeting with my iPhone 6S and my BI 40 
braille display. I was using Microsoft Word.
Every time I entered a character, my braille display went to the top of the 
current page or the top of the document. Is there a way to get my display to 
follow the cursor?
Thanks so much.

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Re: Today View in Notification Center is completely broken in IOS 9.2.1

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. I'm using an iPhone 6S and my software is up to date I am not having any 
difficulty with the today view of the notification Center. I appreciate how 
frustrating it is when you hit a bug that others can't replicate. If you have 
Apple care, i suggest that you contact Apple. If you're near an Apple store, 
you can make a Genius appointment.. 

> On May 19, 2016, at 10:45 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
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> Does anyone successfully use the Today view in Notification Center? I have 
> deleted everything and put some things back but in the latest update IOS and 
> VoiceOVer completely crashes in Today View as I hear screen curtain on then 
> nothing for a few seconds and then screen curtain on once again. If I try 
> touching or flicking around the screen I get nothing or VO just continues to 
> repeat the weather until crashing. Today view has never worked on any of my 3 
> iPhones since they introduced it. Thanks,
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RE: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Paul Hunt]

Michael, that doesn't solve the problem. What if you want to load a check into 
your printer. Can KNFB Reader tell you whether you are putting it in correctly? 
What if you want to assemble a group of pages and get their orientation correct 
for mailing? Can the KNFB reader do that?
Thanks so much. 
Paul
 
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Michael Feir
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Subject: Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

The KNFB Reader will figure out how many degrees a sheet is rotated so if it's 
180 degress, that'd be upside down. It compensates for orientation 
automatically. As long as you get all four edges of a page in the picture, 
you're off to the races.

On 5/16/16, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera.
> I also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance 
> features to get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe 
> there's a check orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.
>
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale 
>> <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, All!
>>
>> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For 
>> years, I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and 
>> thought that was the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  
>> The KNFB Reader has it all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  
>> I've also tried Prizmo and had to use my StandScan Pro in order to 
>> scan properly.  For one reason or another, I couldn't use it 
>> free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you have a page that's 
>> longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put into the 
>> StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much easier for 
>> me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents'
>> worth in here!  Thanks.
>>
>> Esther Levegnale
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil 
>>> for years now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader 
>>> app and how accurate it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of 
>>> our hands move slightly when holding up our devices only naturally, 
>>> so I thought for this reason, the app could only be so good at scanning.
>>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in 
>>> how good and accurate of a job it did!!
>>>
>>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on 
>>> my computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all 
>>> of my scanning needs!!
>>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly 
>>> better, just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the 
>>> KNFB Reader makes scanning things easier and quicker, therefore 
>>> making me be more efficient in getting things done.
>>>
>>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to 
>>> the cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of 
>>> the price.  And since it is just as good, I will say that it is 
>>> definitely worth the cost.
>>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great 
>>> features, like being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>>>
>>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience 
>>> I have had with the app.
>>> I hope this has been helpful.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador <axs@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those 
>>>> of you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the 
>>>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>>>>
>>>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out 
>>>> all the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but 
>>>> couldn't bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money 
>>>> could go toward other things.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or 
>>>> the other.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dani
>>>>
>>>> --

Re: Why Would You Choose the KNFB Reader Over The Other Options?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I have the KNFB reader and Openbook with the pearl camera. I 
also have lots of trouble using the Field Of View or Tilt guidance features to 
get the camera aligned properly. Also, I don't believe there's a check 
orientation feature in the KNFB Reader.

> On May 16, 2016, at 9:47 AM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, All!
> 
> I also would like to sing great praises for the KNFB Reader app.  For years, 
> I've used the Open Book with the Pearl camera on my PC and thought that was 
> the cat's meow.  Well, I think very differently now.  The KNFB Reader has it 
> all over the other scanners, in my opinion.  I've also tried Prizmo and had 
> to use my StandScan Pro in order to scan properly.  For one reason or 
> another, I couldn't use it free-hand.  As someone eluded to earlier, when you 
> have a page that's longer than the standard 8 x 11 sheet, it's hard to put 
> into the StandScan box, and reading it with the KNFB Reader was so much 
> easier for me.  Just thought I'd put my 2 cents' worth in here!  Thanks.
> 
> Esther Levegnale
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 16, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Being a user of computer OCR software like Open Book and Kurzweil for years 
>> now, I was a little skeptical regarding the KNFB Reader app and how accurate 
>> it was actually going to be.  I mean, most of our hands move slightly when 
>> holding up our devices only naturally, so I thought for this reason, the app 
>> could only be so good at scanning.
>> But after getting the app, I must say that I was just overwhelmed in how 
>> good and accurate of a job it did!!
>> 
>> Just as someone else reported, I no longer use any OCR software on my 
>> computer.  The KNFB Reader app is so good, that I use it for all of my 
>> scanning needs!!
>> The amazing thing is that you can get the same accuracy or possibly better, 
>> just by holding your phone in your hand.  I just find the KNFB Reader makes 
>> scanning things easier and quicker, therefore making me be more efficient in 
>> getting things done.
>> 
>> Yes, the app can be said to be a little pricey, but in comparison to the 
>> cost of OCR software for your computer, it is just a fraction of the price.  
>> And since it is just as good, I will say that it is definitely worth the 
>> cost.
>> On top of the great job it does, it also has a lot of great features, like 
>> being able to save documents to Dropbox.
>> 
>> Of coarse all of this is just my opinion from all of the experience I have 
>> had with the app.
>> I hope this has been helpful.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Dani Pagador  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Everyone.
>>> I know that the KNFB Reader is going to be on sale soon. For those of
>>> you who have, and use it, why would you choose KNFB over all the
>>> options that are VO- and blind-friendly?
>>> 
>>> I'm on a really tight budget and don't have the money to try out all
>>> the possibilities. I've wanted the KNFB app for a while, but couldn't
>>> bring myself to plunk down the $$$ for it when the money could go
>>> toward other things.
>>> 
>>> I thought I'd bite the bullet and ask what y'all think, one way or the 
>>> other.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dani
>>> 
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Re: Accessibility of the Getme app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Wayne. When you get to the payment screen enter your credit card number. 
The app puts you into the expiration date. Enter the date like 0719. The app 
then places you in the CVV field. Enter the three digit code from the back of 
your credit card. The app places you into the zip code field. Enter your zip 
code and activate the done button.
You will also find that the request screen isn't accessible. I've already 
written to the developer and I encourage you to do the same.
I live in unincorporated Travis County between Austin and Pflugerville so I 
should be able to use Uber to go to Pflugerville and Round Rock.

> On May 9, 2016, at 8:44 AM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The only thing that I've been able to do is get partly though the
> initial setup screens. I'm stuck on the credit card entry screen. I've
> entered my card but then it has another edit field but there is no
> indication of what is supposed to be entered there. And, for those
> curious, the app is pronounced "GetMe." I'm not sure how well they
> will do though since I heard a report that said that GetMe had 500
> drivers while Uber had around 10,000. Sure, some Uber drivers will go
> to GetMe, but it's going to take a lot to cover the city and the
> surrounding area. Also, Uber is still an option outside of Austin,
> just not in Austin proper.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 5/8/16, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hello everybody. Uber and Lift are pulling out of Austin Texas due to new
>> transportation Network Company (TNC) regulations. We have another TNC called
>> Getme. The Getme app appears to be inaccessible. I've already sent email to
>> the company but want to know if any of you have been able to use Getme
>> successfully.
>> Thanks so much.
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Accessibility of the Getme app

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Uber and Lift are pulling out of Austin Texas due to new 
transportation Network Company (TNC) regulations. We have another TNC called 
Getme. The Getme app appears to be inaccessible. I've already sent email to the 
company but want to know if any of you have been able to use Getme successfully.
Thanks so much.

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Re: Questions regarding email, and an iPhone and a laptop?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello terri. IMAP is server based. All of the activity is done on the server. 
Your iPhone and computer are always connected. In pop3, your device downloads 
received mail and uploads sent mail. With Imap, if you delete email on one of 
your devices, it's gone. In pop3 you can either tell it to keep mail on the 
server or delete it. I use Imap because it allows me to move my mail to folders 
on the server. My mail is always where I expect it to be no matter which device 
I'm working on. One final note, folders are called mail boxes in IOS and OSX.

> On May 3, 2016, at 10:37 PM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hi again everyone,
> 
> OK, I honestly do not want to start a war on this list. That is not at all my 
> intention. But I am a bit confused.
> 
> Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between I am a P, and 
> pop three?
> 
> Before I ever had an iPhone or really iPhone in general, I had my email sent 
> to pop three on my computer. But since I got my iPhone, years ago, I have 
> always had it set to high am a B. That was recommended to me by a few people. 
> So I really did not think much about it. All I know is, when I delete 
> messages off my phone, I don't want to go back to my laptop and see them 
> again. That would really be annoying!
> Also, when I delete messages off my laptop, I do not want to come back to my 
> iPhone and see them yet again. Again, this would be annoying!
> No, I would like to know, what is the all folder in Gmail? Why is it there? 
> Can I get rid of it?
> Also, why is there an important Boulder? Most of the mail in there, seems to 
> be mail that of been in my inbox at one time or another. This is ridiculous! 
> Can I get rid of this folder as well?
> 
> Any help would be very much appreciated. I don't like it when things computer 
> me. Or annoy me! So I would love the help.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2016, rajmund  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> GMAIL will keep deleted things in trash for 30 days.  I will not go into POP 
>> VS IMAP, and how people should do things, for 2 reasons:
>> 1) It will depend on the way you use it.  2) It ends up as a war, usually.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" > Date sent: Tue, 3 May 2016 19:34:31 +
>> Subject: RE: Questions regarding email, and an iPhone and a laptop?
>> 
>> Hi Terri,
>> 
>> I hope others will chime in and give you more information since I am not a 
>> fan of gmail/IMAP and use Exchange/Exchange Active Sync which, for my 
>> personal basically means Outlook.com.  Anyhow, if set up correctly as IMAP 
>> and if IMAP is enabled in your gmail settings online rather than POP your 
>> email is kept on Google's servers and any changes you make on any device 
>> that is properly set up will reflect on all devices.  In other words, if you 
>> delete on your laptop you are deleting the message from the server and this 
>> change is synced to all other devices and the message will also be gone.  
>> Having said this, Google has this strange All Mail or whatever it is called 
>> mailbox where even though you delete stuff from your Inbox the mail is 
>> kept..  I am not sure if it is kept forever, but it is at least for a while.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Terri Stimmel
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Questions regarding email, and an iPhone and a laptop?
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I would like to know something, if somebody could possibly help me?
>> I have a laptop running Windows 7, and then I have an iPhone S.  I have a 
>> Gmail account.  I was wanting to know, if I delete email off my phone, will 
>> it still show up on my laptop?
>> Also, if I delete my mail off my laptop, will it still show up on my phone?
>> 
>> If this is accurate on both ends, can I fix this issue
>> If so, how do I go about doing it?
>> 
>> I have collected a huge amount of mail over the years, because I always 
>> thought it was being deleted from the server.  Come to find out, when I 
>> started using IMAP, it wasn't.  Now I have over 3000 messages, I am slowly 
>> trying to get rid of.  I don't just want to delete it all at once, because I 
>> know that there are some important stuff in there that I would like to have.
>> 
>> So if anyone can help me, I would really appreciate it.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Terri
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RE: Financial

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Danny. No, I'm using Quicken for Windows 2016.


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Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 2:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Financial

Hi, Paul.
Are you using Quicken on a Mac?

Thanks,
Dani


On 4/30/16, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> Hello Peter. I use Quicken 2016 for the Desktop and quicken for IOS. 
> You need both products. The IOS version works well when you are not at 
> home but you need the desktop for reconcilliation.
>
>> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Peter Logan <pdlloga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> In my quest to replace my laptop ... I’m trying to find an 
>> alternative for Quicken that will run on either my IPhone or on an 
>> IPad.  I know there are several apps that will allow you to enter 
>> transactions...  I want something with the ability to replace Quicken 
>> ... having transactions downloaded, reconciled, etc.  I’ve looked at 
>> Mint, but that doesn’t have all the functionality that I’m looking for.
>>
>> Does anyone know of something that will work like Quicken for the IPad?
>>
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Re: Financial

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Peter. I use Quicken 2016 for the Desktop and quicken for IOS. You need 
both products. The IOS version works well when you are not at home but you need 
the desktop for reconcilliation.

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Peter Logan  wrote:
> 
> In my quest to replace my laptop ... I’m trying to find an alternative for 
> Quicken that will run on either my IPhone or on an IPad.  I know there are 
> several apps that will allow you to enter transactions...  I want something 
> with the ability to replace Quicken ... having transactions downloaded, 
> reconciled, etc.  I’ve looked at Mint, but that doesn’t have all the 
> functionality that I’m looking for.
>  
> Does anyone know of something that will work like Quicken for the IPad?
>  
>  
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Re: Prizmo vs KNFB Reader, was: How Do You Use iOS?

[Paul Hunt]

I have used both the KNFB Reader and Prismo. I also use Openbook and have used 
Kurzweil 1000. I prefer the Optacon over all of them.

> On Apr 30, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> There is no question that the user interface and the speed of getting scans 
> with KNFB Reader is by far the best.
> However, if you have a document that you want to attempt to keep the 
> paragraph structure, then Prizmo is better than KNFB Reader.
> But, Prizmo is far, far more tedious to use.
> I have kept Prizmo on my devices in case of situations where I want the 
> paragraphs retained.
> Granted that isn't very often.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPod 6
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 10:23 PM, Feliciano Godoy  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The user interface for KNFBReader Great compared to Prizmo. When comparing 
>> theKNFBReader app with other apps for more complicated documents it is 
>> superior. If you're scanning regular letters, thePrizmo App or TextGrabber 
>> plus translator will suffice. The advantage is thatKNFBReader Will also OCR 
>> text from the computer screen. Definitely worth the money even if you don't 
>> have any discounts by using gift cards are waiting for it to be on sale. 
>> This is not a biased opinion, it is based on  comparison  and experience.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>>> On Apr 29, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>  
>>> I think it’s pretty safe to say that if you ever used KNFB Reader you would 
>>> never want to use Prizmo again. I am not saying this because the OCR is 
>>> that much better, but the ease of use for a blind person to use and get 
>>> great results with KNFB Reader is unbelievable. I used to use Prizmo as 
>>> well as well as another OCR app which was popular for a while and for which 
>>> I forgot the name, but once KNFB Reader came out they all went the way of 
>>> double tap and hold, then double tap again to delete. KNFB Reader is 
>>> expensive, but is it ever worth it if you do OCR on a regular bases and you 
>>> can get it for a reasonable deal if you pick up some 20% off iTunes gift 
>>> cards when they are available at various resellers throughout the year and 
>>> then wait until KNFB goes on sale for $75 or so. If you then have discount 
>>> cards you can get it for $60 and it has been on sale for less at times, I 
>>> think as low as $50 at one point in which case it would have been $40 with 
>>> discounted gift cards.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Traci Duncan
>>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 8:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How Do You Use iOS?
>>>  
>>> The apps I use most frequently are:
>>>  
>>> Prizmo.  Which it would be interesting to read a comparison between Prizmo 
>>> & KNFB.
>>> CamFind, excellent app to scan just about anything.  Even importing a 
>>> screenshot.
>>> CloudClip.  I absolutely love this app.  I have it on both my iDevices & 
>>> Mac.  What I copy to the clipboard is available on each device.  Every so 
>>> often, it is a bit buggy & doesn’t copy over right away, but most of the 
>>> time it works brilliantly.
>>>  
>>> Twitterrific.  This is my go to Twitter app.
>>> TV Remote from xFinity.  I use this app a bit more on my iPad, because the 
>>> episodes are in folders.  Lol, I use it mostly on my phone to turn the 
>>> channel.  ;)
>>>  
>>> My Fitness Pal.  Even if I am not tracking calories, I use this app to 
>>> identify foods & drinks.  Learn the serving size & nutrition.
>>>  
>>> DraftPad.  I’ve had this app for a long time, but still find it useful, if 
>>> I quickly want to compose a text or long post, without accidentally sending 
>>> it.  :)  Lol, I’ve even done things, like while at home I write out a check 
>>> in post for Facebook, because I know I’ll want to check in from the 
>>> restaurant but not necessarily type it out or dictate it in public.  
>>>  
>>> This isn’t an app, but it is a way to use IOS.  I have a Safari Icon for 
>>> the website DirectionsForMe.org  This website is very handy for obtaining 
>>> directions/instructions for foods & or drinks.  I have another Safari icon 
>>> for a local radio station’s playlist.  Yet another one for a radio 
>>> station’s weekly stream of it’s Saturday night broadcast.  Love those 
>>> Safari icons.  :)
>>>  
>>> Hopefully the above list is helpful & not too long.
>>> Traci
>>> An IOS user since the first gen iPad in 2010.
>>>  
>>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 9:43 PM, Jeff Samco  wrote:
>>>  
>>> I also use some of Mark's favorite apps. I will add:
>>> 
>>> Digit-Eyes to generate QR codes on labels.
>>> QR Reader by QuarKode is the best app I've found for reading QR codes. I 
>>> mostly place them on devices I manage 

Re: Hidden iPhone features

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. The redial feature is very nice. However, i can't get 
spotlight math to work. What is the syntax?

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, you can do so by putting your finger on the item and then doing a split 
> tap, i.e. tap 10 times quickly with a second finger.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Victor Gouveia
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hidden iPhone features
>  
> I think these are for visual people, since I don’t know the keystrokes for a 
> great many of these tricks.
>  
> Especially the tapping on the tab ten times to empty the cache.
>  
> Anyone know how to do this without this keystroke?
>  
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> From: Pinky
> Sent: Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hidden Iphone features
>  
>  
>  
> How many times have you seen posts on tech sites about “hidden iPhone 
> features” and thought to yourself, these tricks aren’t really hidden at all. 
> We’ve even had a few articles here on BGR with tips that were indeed unknown 
> to most users, but the savvy iOS device owners out there were undoubtedly 
> familiar with at least a few of them.
> 
> Well, in this piece we’re going to tell you about 25 hidden features that are 
> really, truly hidden. As in, you could look through your iPhone from now 
> until the end of time and you wouldn’t find any of these tricks unless you 
> know what you’re looking for.
> 
> DON’T MISS: The math they don’t want you to see: iPhone carrier trade-ins are 
> always a bad idea
> 
> In the past, many of the hidden tips we’ve seen on sites and even covered 
> here are simply things that are buried in the Settings app in places people 
> normally wouldn’t look. These are great things to know — plenty of people 
> would make their camera flash blink with incoming messages if they knew that 
> they could, for example — but they’re not really “hidden” or “secret,” per se.
> 
> Each of the tips that follow below, however, are completely hidden. There is 
> no indication that these functions exist in iOS, and we guarantee that most 
> users don’t know about them. In fact, we also guarantee that even the 
> savviest iPhone owners among you will find at least one or two things you 
> didn’t already know. In fact, ran this list past a friend who works at Apple 
> and there were a few things that even he didn’t know.
> 
> Enjoy.
> 
> Redial: In the Phone app, press the green call button on the keypad screen to 
> make the last dialed number appear.
> 
> Clear cache: Make your iPhone run faster by clearing out the cache in several 
> of Apple’s apps using a secret trick. In the App Store, Podcasts, Music, Game 
> Center and Phone apps, tap on any single tab icon at the bottom of the screen 
> 10 times in a row.
> 
> Make TouchID work faster: Save the same fingerprint multiple times as 
> different entries and TouchID will work much faster. This is especially 
> useful on older phones like the iPhone 6 and iPhone 5s.
> 
> Spotlight conversions: Remember when we told you how easy conversions are in 
> our post on Google search tricks? It’s even easier for iPhone users — just 
> open Spotlight and type something like “20 euros in GBP,” and it will 
> instantly perform the conversion.
> 
> Spotlight math: Want to do a quick math problem? No need to open the 
> Calculator app, just pull down to open Spotlight and type it right there.
> 
> Delete numbers in the Calculator: Speaking of the Calculator, you can delete 
> single digits when you tap the wrong number by swiping left or right on the 
> screen where the numbers appear.
> 
> Clear RAM to make your phone run faster: Hold down the power button until you 
> see “Slide to power off,” then let go and hold down the home button until the 
> screen goes blank and your home screen reappears.
> 
> Burst mode: Hold down the camera’s shutter button to shoot in burst mode.
> 
> Remote shutter: Use the volume up or down button on your headphones to snap a 
> photo in the Camera app.
> 
> Turn the flashlight off: How many times have you turned your flashlight on 
> and wished that you didn’t have to swipe open the Control Panel again to shut 
> it off? We’ll save you a step: simply swipe up on the camera icon on your 
> lock screen and the flashlight will turn off.
> 
> 3D Touch while drawing: All of the drawing tools and the eraser are pressure 
> sensitive in the Notes app.
> 
> Close multiple apps at once: Double-tap the home button to open the app 
> switcher and you can use two, even three fingers to slide multiple apps 
> closed with one swipe.
> 
> Recently closed tabs: Want to reread this article on your phone but you 
> forgot what site you were reading it 

Re: Best word processor for iOS devices Able to write complete documents?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. It's all a matter of choice. The native notes app is fine for short 
notes. So are Notepad and Text Edit. I've used them all. I prefer Word for all 
of my word processing.  

> On Apr 5, 2016, at 10:42 AM, rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> No attacks, please, but, notes.  A standard note pad.  No special microsoft 
> ID, nothing to install, its in there by default.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 05:55:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: Best word processor for iOS devices   Able to write complete 
> documents?
> 
> Hello Trey.  I believe that Microsoft Word is the most accessible Word 
> Processor.  I use it for all of my note taking.  I take my notes at meetings 
> with my Brailliant BI 40 display.  When I get home my document is waiting for 
> me, no synchronization required.  It's free too.
> 
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 10:48 PM, trahern culver <tecks-...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,   Please can somebody tell me what is currently the best accessible 
> wordprocessor   For writing complete documents on iOS devices?   Your help 
> with this question would be most welcome   Kind regards  trey
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Re: Best word processor for iOS devices Able to write complete documents?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Trey. I believe that Microsoft Word is the most accessible Word 
Processor. I use it for all of my note taking. I take my notes at meetings with 
my Brailliant BI 40 display. When I get home my document is waiting for me, no 
synchronization required. It's free too.  

> On Apr 4, 2016, at 10:48 PM, trahern culver  wrote:
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> Hi all,   Please can somebody tell me what is currently the best accessible 
> wordprocessor   For writing complete documents on iOS devices?   Your help 
> with this question would be most welcome   Kind regards  trey
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Re: Offline dictation in 9.3

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. To quote Steve Jobs "it just works."
If you have a 6s or 6s plus you can test off line dictation  by following these 
steps:
1. Turn on Airplane mode.
2. Open a favorite app.
3. Just dictate.
4. Turn off Airplane mode.
I am confident that I answered your questions.

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for that info.
> I'l try to find the article I read and see if I can send in a comment or 
> correction.
> Richard
> U
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:21 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi. Off-line dictation is available on the 6S, 6S fplus, and iPad Pro. It's 
>> not available on any other iOS device. Also, you do not need to download any 
>> off-line dictation files, it just works.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 1:45 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The only thing there was in dictation is to turn dictation on or off. I 
>>> also checked in the English keyboard and there was nothing about dictation 
>>> there. Just different layouts of the keyboard.
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:17 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Offline dictation in 9.3
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That is interesting. This was in a Mac World article.
>>> You checked in Settings, General, Keyboard?
>>> Very odd that they would be that specific and it not be there.
>>> Did you double tap on dictation?
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
 On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:04 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
 
 Hi Richard,
 
 I just went through all of the settings in the 6S plus, and found no 
 reference to any off line dictation.
 
 Jenn
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Offline dictation in 9.3
 
 
 I just googled offline dictation in ios, and everything I read said it was 
 only available in the 6s or 6s plus models and that it is not enabled by 
 default. You have to go into the Settings, General, Keyboard, and download 
 the offline dictation files and that is only available for English 
 keyboards.
 So, I for one will never have access to it since I have no need to spend a 
 lot of money on a 6s while my 5s is working just fine.
 And, I prefer the size of the 5s, so when I need to get a new phone one 
 day, the iPhone SE or whatever it is called by then, will be my choice. 
 Who knows, maybe that feature is available in the SE since it has most of 
 the 6s components?
 Richard
 
 
 
 (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
 
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 11:55 PM, denise avant  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I’m wondering if offline dictation is available on the iPad Air 2? I 
> heard a podcast that said it was only on the iphone. Is this right? Also 
> can it be used anywhere else besides notes, like ms word?
> Thanks.
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RE: Appointment In IPhone Calendar?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. You need to activate the Add button. Then complete all of the fields 
that apply. I navigate to the date I want to schedule the appointment then 
activate the add button. 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Appointment In IPhone Calendar?

 

Hi, list.

I have IPhone6Plus With IOS9.3.

I have never used IPhone calendar. Today I wanted to schedule a doctor’s 
appointment for 19th April but could not find an edit field to write.

When I asked Seri to schedule one for me, she was having problem with my heavy 
Pakistani accent, specially with the word April.

How can I schedule it manually, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: creating contact groups

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Just create an Outlook folder in your contacts folder and it will become 
a contact group. You can move contacts into your new group and add new ones. 
The iCloud Control Panel handles the synchronization seemlessly. 

> On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:35 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> How does one create a contact group via Outlook for Windows that will show up 
> on the phone?  
> 
> I am using the iCloud Control panel with Outlook.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Hunt
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: creating contact groups
> 
> Hello. You cannot create contact groups in IOS. If you use a computer with 
> Microsoft Outlook and the iCloud Control panel, you can easily create and 
> manage contact groups.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Gordan Radic
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: creating contact groups
> 
> Hi!
> iOS as it is doesn't support creation of the contact groups. I know, it is 
> stupid because the Contact app gives you some options for groups, such as the 
> Do not Disturb option but there's no way to create a group besides external 
> apps.
> Try with G Contact Lite or some other contacts management apps.
> S poštovanjem
> Gordan Radić
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 24.2.2016. u 22:47, Ryan Mann je napisao/la:
> Hello.  Does anybody on this list create contact groups using
> VoiceOver on their iPhone?  I would like to create a group and be able
> to send text messages or email to everybody in that group instead of
> having to add individual people.  Let's say for example I wanted to
> send a text message or email to my family.  I would like to be able to
> add people to that group and tell Siri to send a text message to my
> family.  Is this possible with VoiceOver?
> 
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RE: creating contact groups

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. You cannot create contact groups in IOS. If you use a computer with 
Microsoft Outlook and the iCloud Control panel, you can easily create and 
manage contact groups.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordan Radic
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: creating contact groups

 

Hi!
iOS as it is doesn't support creation of the contact groups. I know, it is 
stupid because the Contact app gives you some options for groups, such as the 
Do not Disturb option but there's no way to create a group besides external 
apps.
Try with G Contact Lite or some other contacts management apps.

S poštovanjem
  Gordan Radić


  

 


  

  

  

24.2.2016. u 22:47, Ryan Mann je napisao/la:

Hello.  Does anybody on this list create contact groups using
VoiceOver on their iPhone?  I would like to create a group and be able
to send text messages or email to everybody in that group instead of
having to add individual people.  Let's say for example I wanted to
send a text message or email to my family.  I would like to be able to
add people to that group and tell Siri to send a text message to my
family.  Is this possible with VoiceOver?
 

 

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Re: Uber Questions

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Sarai. Before I answer your questions let's define two terms. Your pickup 
location is your starting point. Your destination is where you're going.
> 
> 1. There is a pickup location home button, and a set pickup location button. 
> What is the difference? Uber attempts to populate your pickup location. If 
> Uber picks the right location you can activate the set pickup location. 
> Otherwise, double tap the pickup location, edit it and double tap the set 
> pickup location button.
> 2. At set pickup location, do you have to put in the street address? If you 
> are going to Target for example, do you look up the address before you go? If 
> so I don’t always know the address of where I’m going. Sarai, in your example 
> it sounds like Target is your destination. After setting your pickup location 
> Uber asks for your destination. If you enter Target, Uber lists the targets 
> in your area. In spite of this, I suggest that you look up the address and 
> add it to your contacts before you make your trips.
> 3. I opened the app last night, it said no cars available, but a sighted 
> person opened hers and saw 5 cars available and the ETA to our street. How 
> can I get this info? I'm not sure about that.
> 4. Any other tips or suggestions? I’m kind of nervous to use the app, and 
> travel alone.
Yes. The first suggestion is to know where you live. By this I mean that you 
should know how to get to your residence from the main streets and freeways in 
your area so that you can give directions to your driver.
Here are the steps that I take.
1. I choose my vehicle type. Uberx is the most economical
2. I set my pickup location.
3. I set my destination.
4. I make sure to choose the payment method.
5. I activate the Request Uberx button.
6. After my trip is accepted, I activate the trip options and call my driver 
with instructions.
There are no guarantees. There are always risks in life. If you avoid doing 
things because of fear, the criminals have committed their crimes without 
lifting a finger. If you want to do something, just do it. Enjoy Uber, it's an 
excellent transportation alternative to taxi cabs.

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Re: Using Bard with a BI40 Braille Display

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Anna. This worked for me. I have another question. What's the difference 
between Quick Nav and single letter Quick Nav? Thanks so much.

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Be sure that 8-dot mode is on for output by pressing Space with dots 2-3-6 
> until it's set to 8-dot uncontracted. Also, press Space with dots 1-2-3-4-5-7 
> until single-letter Quick Nav is off. Then the keystrokes should work.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everybody. I tried to read my first braille book on bard. I tried to 
>> use the menu and last place shortcuts but they don't seem to workk. Here any 
>> of you been able to use the Bard keyboard shortcuts from your braille 
>> display? If so, how did you do this?
>> Thanks so much.
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RE: Using Bard with a BI40 Braille Display

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Anna.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using Bard with a BI40 Braille Display

Hi Paul,

Quick Nav is primarily useful with a Bluetooth keyboard. It lets you move 
around without having to hold down the Command and Option keys. Single-letter 
Quick Nav is useful with both a braille display and Bluetooth keyboard; it lets 
you move around on web pages, for instance, by typing H to go to the next 
heading and C to go to the next control.. There are quite a few elements by 
which you can move using Single Letter Quick Nav. If you have eight-dot mode 
on, you can add dot 7 to most of them to move to the previous element of that 
type, such as H with dot 7 to move to the previous heading.

HTH,
Anna



> On Jan 27, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anna. This worked for me. I have another question. What's the 
> difference between Quick Nav and single letter Quick Nav? Thanks so much.
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> Be sure that 8-dot mode is on for output by pressing Space with dots 2-3-6 
>> until it's set to 8-dot uncontracted. Also, press Space with dots 
>> 1-2-3-4-5-7 until single-letter Quick Nav is off. Then the keystrokes should 
>> work.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody. I tried to read my first braille book on bard. I tried to 
>>> use the menu and last place shortcuts but they don't seem to workk. Here 
>>> any of you been able to use the Bard keyboard shortcuts from your braille 
>>> display? If so, how did you do this?
>>> Thanks so much.
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Using Bard with a BI40 Braille Display

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I tried to read my first braille book on bard. I tried to use 
the menu and last place shortcuts but they don't seem to workk. Here any of you 
been able to use the Bard keyboard shortcuts from your braille display? If so, 
how did you do this?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Rajmund. I use an IPhone 6S. I'm using it with a Brailliant BI 40 Braille 
display. I want to recalibrate it. Are the standard, touch typing and the 
direct touch typing modes available when using the braille screen input feature?

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in  
> order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. 
> Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Hunt  <prhu...@att.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:46 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody.
>> I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
>> 1. How do I recalibrate?
>> 2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
>> 3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody.
I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
1. How do I recalibrate?
2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Kevin Chao  
> To: viphone
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I just downloaded IOS 9.2.1. After downloading it I checked 
for updates and I got the message stating that my software is up to date. I 
have a 6S. I assume that 9.3 is a beta. If my assumption is correct it's a 
violation of non disclosure agreements to discuss new features. If my 
assumption is incorrect, why doesn't the update appear on my iPhone?  

> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Monica,
> 
> The update is available for all iOS users and it of course contains more than 
> just 3D touch enhancements. However, you will not get 3D Touch with this or 
> any other update on any phone that is not a 6S or 6S Plus and of course 
> future phones will support 3D Touch.
> 3D Touch requires a different touch screen and only the new iPhones have the 
> hardware required.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Monica Jones
> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts
> 
> No, it's available for five users as well; I got it this morning. We still 
> don't have access to those though.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Donald Moore
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts
> 
> So I'm guessing that the 9.3 update is only for iPhone 6 owners?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Monica Jones
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 1:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts
> 
> Since I can't use it in my 5S, I forgot where it is, but I will search if
> someone else hasn't answered you.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Dave
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts
> 
> Hi i have an iPhone 6, and i haven't seen this setting in my menu.
> 
> could you tell me, exactly where it is?
> 
> Dave.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Monica Jones
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 9.3 welcomes all-new 3D Touch shortcuts
> 
> You know, it would be nice if this were available for the 5S. It has it in
> the settings menu but doesn't work unless you have a 6.
> 
> 
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Re: Fopydo with book reading aid is great

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Anne. Thanks so much.

> On Jan 11, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Paul,
> 
> The StandScan is great for documents that lie flat, but there is nothing to 
> compare with the Fopydo plus Book Reading Aid for reading books. Also, the 
> Fopydo sits firmly on my lap whereas the StandScan needs a flat surface to be 
> stable.
> Since I use KNFBReader, I don’t need the lighting provided by the StandScan.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jan 2016, at 06:16, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anne. How would you compare the Fopydo to the Stand Scan Pro?
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Anne Robertson <annefromo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I’ve just finished reading a novel with the Fopydo stand and Book Reading 
>>> Aid using KNFBReader and it’s brilliant! I’ve been able to sit with the 
>>> stand on my lap and read comfortably. This is the best Book reading 
>>> solution I’ve ever found.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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Re: Fopydo with book reading aid is great

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Anne. How would you compare the Fopydo to the Stand Scan Pro?

> On Jan 10, 2016, at 7:38 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I’ve just finished reading a novel with the Fopydo stand and Book Reading Aid 
> using KNFBReader and it’s brilliant! I’ve been able to sit with the stand on 
> my lap and read comfortably. This is the best Book reading solution I’ve ever 
> found.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
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Re: icloud for windows

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I used ICloud for Windows in the past and it worked for a 
while but after an upgrade I had problems with it. I upgraded it but haven't 
tried it. How reliable is it these days?

> On Nov 28, 2015, at 12:56 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> The primary purpose of the iCloud Control Panel is to allow Windows users to 
> access iCloud features, primarily in Microsoft Outlook but now it also 
> includes iCloud drive.  
> 
> As an example, when I schedule a new calendar appointment on my iPhone, not 
> only does that event appear in the Calendar application on my Mac but that 
> same appointment also shows up in the Calendar in Microsoft Outlook on my 
> Windows PC.   The same is true for Reminders, Contacts, and so on.
> 
> The reverse is also true.  This is to say, when working in Outlook, on my 
> Windows PC, thanks to the iCloud Control Panel, any appointments, reminders, 
> Contacts, etc I add, directly into Outlook, will automatically be 
> synchronized to all of my iCloud enabled devices such as my iPhone and Mac.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Ferrara
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 9:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: icloud for windows
> 
> What does this program do; I am guessing it somehow lets you access what is 
> in the cloud on one or more Apple devices but would like someone’s opinion 
> who has tried it.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Paul Ferrara
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Re: copy and paste with braille display

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Stephanie. There are a couple of ways to select text. First, you choose 
what to select characters words or lines. After you do this you can use chord 
dots 2 5 6 to select. You can also switch to text selection with chord dots 5 
6. Then flick right with chord dot 6 to select the unit then the dot 4 chord to 
make your selection. Also, dots 1 3 chord is the cut command.
I hope this helps. 

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:34 AM, Stephanie  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> How do I select text, copy and paste with my braille display? 
> Is this possible? 
> I can do it with out the display but think using the braille would be quicker.
> Steph
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:52 am
> Subject: List for blind beta users [was "Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta 
> Questions to the List Will Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status"]
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this Apple Beta Discussions list specifically for blind beta users or 
>> any beta users, sighted or blind. I'd be interested in joining a list 
>> for blind beta users to hear about and talk about accessibility and 
>> VoiceOver issues in the beta, but I'd be worried that a general list for 
>> beta users would involve more traffic than I'd like to get.
>> 
>> BTW, I think it's on topic for this list to share information about 
>> other mailing lists. I'm not sure we need to be policing those other 
>> lists though. People can find out on their own if it violates the NDA to 
>> join such a list or not.
>> 
>>> On 11/07/2015 02:34 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote:
>>> You're right. I forgot to say the additional information. The list won't 
>>> let you join if you don't have the beta installed. They'll ask you if you 
>>> have a beta of iOS 9 or a beta of El Capitan. They also ask where your 
>>> feedback assistant is on either your Mac or iPhone. Matthew Dierckens and 
>>> Aleeha Dudley are mods of that list.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> Sent From My White MacBook
>>> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
>>> Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
>>> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
>>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 Excuse me, but unless you have to be a beta tester to join that list that 
 is flying in the face of the NDA and I suspect the policy of this list as 
 well.
 Richard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Shawn Krasniuk
 Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 12:24 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
 Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
 
 Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. 
 If you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
 apple-beta-discussion+subscr...@googlegroups.com.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
 Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
 Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
 Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
 
> On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels  
> wrote:
> 
> He all,
> I agree of course with the described rules.
> However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> release.
> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> from apple to discuss there.
> 
> It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first 
> place but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and 
> discuss accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> questions , send by mail.
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
>> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor  het volgende 
>> geschreven:
>> 
>> Hello Alex,
>> 
>> You ask an excellent question.
>> 
>> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
>> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
>> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
>> posted-on-list.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>> 
>> Mark,
>> I 

Re: still 1password

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. 1Password works well with the IOS keyboard. I suggest that you use the 
IOS keyboard or invest in a Bluetooth keyboard. You don't need a computer to 
use 1password.

> On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:30 PM, Regina Alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Still cannot use 1password. I do not have a keyboard and it will not let me 
> use mBraille. Haven't tried dictation. Do I have to have a computer to use 
> the app? I am confused. It works for some, not for others. About to delete 
> and hope it improves.
> 
> 
> reggie & Lex
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Re: Podcast on 1Password for iOS on AppleVis.

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Greg. I use Onepassword on both IOS and Windows 10. Here's the workflow I 
follow when changing passwords.
1. Initiate the password change.
2. Check the password rules.
3. On your IOS device, edit the login.
4. Activate the Generate New Password button.
5. Change the password recipe to match your password rules.
6. Activate the Done button.
7. Swipe to the Password field on your iDevice.
8. Choose the Reveal action and double tap.
9. Type your password into the password fields on your Windows device.
10. Complete the process on your Windows device.
Note: I find it easier to do the entire change on the iDevice because I can 
copy and paste the new password. I also find managing items much easier on an 
iDevice. Finally, I synchronize via WiFi instead of Drop Box.

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 12:07 PM, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Other than the speech rate being a bit fast I really enjoyed this podcast. I 
> have been thinking of using a password manager because I am finding it harder 
> and harder to remember all my passwords. This leads me to use ones that are 
> not as srong as they should be. I did download the app onto my iPhone and my 
> PC, yes i am a Windows user :), and I am testing it out. It does seem to 
> be really accessible on the PC. Now I just need to figure out an easy way to 
> change some of my week passwords.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
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>> On 10/25/2015 1:03 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Yes, sorry about that. That was one of the suggestions that I got back from 
>> Apple. I'll do my best to incorporate all their suggestions, as I think 
>> they're good ones.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:37 AM, matthew dyer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> Next time you do a podcast, can you make sure the speech is at a slower 
>>> rate?  Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Matthew
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
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>>> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 11:30 AM
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>>> Subject: Podcast on 1Password for iOS on AppleVis.
>>>  
>>> I apologize in advance if anything in this podcast is unclear; this was my 
>>> first podcast.
>>>  
>>> Podcast page link:
>>> http://applevis.com/podcast/episodes/introduction-1password-ios
>>>  
>>> Podcast file link:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/sites/default/files/podcasts/AppleVisPodcast862.mp3
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ari
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Re: ACCESSIBLE METRONOME

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. This is a very nice Metronome. I understand how to set the tempo and the 
beats per measure. How do I tell Tempo Perfect that the eighth note gets the 
beat in 68 time?

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 8:19 PM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
> 
> I double tapped to start and stop it.
> 
> Marie
>> On Oct 24, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Brett  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> 
>> I have downloaded this app and can set the time signature and tempo, but 
>> cannot figure out how to get the metronome to start playing? Any tips? 
>> 
>> Many thanks, 
>> Brett. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Marie Lyons  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, I downloaded Taptranome and it does the job I want.  It is also 
>>> free/!
>>> 
>>> Marie
 On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:
 
 I may have the spelling wrong, but Taptronome is good. You can simply tap 
 the screen at the interval you want, and it will use that tempo. This 
 makes it really easy to set, because there's no slider or text field to 
 worry about.
> On Oct 22, 2015, at 21:23, Marie Lyons  wrote:
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> IS ANYONE AWARE OF A METRONOME APP that allows adjustability in the 
> speed?  I am using the 5S with8.4.  I found a talking one but I can’t 
> adjust it.  I was only able to turn it on once.  There are no buttons on 
> the screen.  Luckily it was a free app.  I don’t mind paying for an app 
> if that’s the only way to get the job done.
> 
> Marie
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Re: better finger print identification in IOS 9.1

[Paul Hunt]

No. You only need one.

> On Oct 24, 2015, at 4:05 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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> does it need to have more than one fingerprint on file?
>  
>  
> Ray T. Mahorney
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Paul and Paula Jordan
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:27
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> Subject: better finger print identification in IOS 9.1
>  
> Hi, all.  I have been using the finger print to unlock my phone for several 
> months.  It’s been inconsistent to say the least.  In fact, I finally gave up 
> on it a couple of weeks ago totally and just went with a pass code.  However, 
> when I updated to IOS 9.1 I decided to give it a try again.  I set the first 
> finger with my thumb as I have done in the past, and, by Golly, it’s been 
> working quite nicely for the past two days.  Boy, I hope this keeps up.  
> Smiley.
> God bless!
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RE: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Paul Hunt]

Hello John and all. Yes, here's how the two finger mode works. You place your 
thumb where you want to stand on the alley. Then you move your index finger 
around the alley to where you want it to be. While holding that position you 
wait for a series of tones. Once you get it you lift your index finger. It's 
more challenging than the one finger bowl. I actually bowled a perfect game 
with the single finger mode and will be able to do it with the two finger aim 
and throw mode. I'm using the large ball large pin mode. If you change to small 
ball small pin mode, the game gets much more challenging. John, where do you 
live? I'm living in Austin texas.
Paul

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John J Jacques
Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 6:44 PM
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Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

Hi Paul and all!  Yes, setting pins at MSB sure helped in knowing the layout!  
GRIN!

Rose, did you bowl here in the Valley?  That is the one thing I miss since 
moving  out here from Michigan, but I live Way out here in Apache Junction, so 
transportation is always an issue.

I bowled four games against the computer this morning and won 2 out of 4.
 I like the fact that you get different aponents with different skill levels, 
but even the poorer bowlers always seem to pick up there spares! 
GRIN!  This morning I was using the one finger simple mode, as I need to work 
on the aiming mode a bit.  Can anyone explain the 2 finger mode?  I haven't 
been able to figure that one out at all.  It will be nice if they eventually 
include the capability to play against others on line!

Have a good one:
John


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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Paul Hunt]

Rose, you have to adjust your position on the alley. If you have the seven pin 
standing move to position 4 to the left of center and lift your finger. This 
morning I bowled a perfect game.

> On Oct 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
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> I downloaded the game yesterday afternoon and played one game after reading 
> the help file.  I did about as well as I once did in real life, 72 was my 
> game, 80 was my average the last year I bowled.  I kept getting a lot of pins 
> on first ball but could not figure out how to get the spares, but that was 
> one game only as I needed to do something else.  
> 
> 
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> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
> memory!
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> -Original Message-
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> jazzyjennifer
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> Subject: Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling
> 
> thanks andy, i never really did an  audio podcast and posted it in 
> public before, i just wanted to do this, so people could get a lay out 
> of the screan, and they could here a demo of the game,
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Re: an audio tutorial on blindfold bowling

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. I was fortunate. We had a bowling alley at the Michigan school 
for the blind so I bowled and set pins a lot so I'll describe the arrangement 
of the pins for you. First, there is a gutter on each side of the alley. You 
need to avoid the gutter.
Pin 1 is in the center of the alley and it is closest to the bowler.
The second row of pins has two pins, the 2 pin is on the left and the 3 pin  is 
on the right.
The third row Contains pins 4 5 and 6 from left to right.
The last row contains pins 7, 8, 9 and 10 pins from left to right. If you want 
to pick up those seven pins move your finger to number four to the left of 
center and you should pick them up. Have any of you tried two finger aim and 
throw? Have any of you beaten the computer yet?

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> thanks andy, i never really did an  audio podcast and posted it in public 
> before, i just wanted to do this, so people could get a lay out of the 
> screan, and they could here a demo of the game,
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Re: hey Siri and dialing numbers iPhone6s

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Hello. Just double checked the speaker button then raise the iPhone to your ear.

> On Oct 7, 2015, at 5:14 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi Shai,
> 
> I’m running the same setup as you are, except I have the iPhone 6S Plus.  If 
> I initiate a call on speaker which I generally do, I can raise the phone to 
> my ear and the speaker is disabled.  I can then remove the phone from my ear 
> and hold it in front of me and the speaker is enabled.  Not sure why this 
> doesn’t work for you.
> 
> Les
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:02 AM, Shai  wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> When using the "hey Siri" command on the iPhone6S with VoiceOver
>> running IOS 9.0.2, I notice that the call is dialed through the
>> speaker and there is no means by which to revert the call to the ear
>> piece even if placing the phone next to the ear. Although I am ok with
>> the call being dialed through the speaker, I would like to have the
>> option of taking the call to the ear piece.
>> Other than holding down the home button to invoke Siri and dialing
>> this way, has anyone found a solution?
>> Thank you in advance for any responses
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Re: Pairing a brailliant 32

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. You don't need a pairing code with the BI32. Forget the Device 
and repair the device. I'm a BI40 user. 

> On Oct 5, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
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> Hi Mary,
> 
> Once you choose Pair, you should see a keypad on your phone where you can 
> type the pin code. Then double-tap Pair, and you should be all set. Do you by 
> any chance have a Bluetooth keyboard connected and on while you're trying to 
> pair your display? If so, that would explain why you're not seeing the 
> numbers. In that case, you can type the PIN on your Bluetooth keyboard.
> 
> HTH,
> Anna
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I am experimenting with a humanware brailliant 32, attempting to parent with 
>> an iPhone. I have Bluetooth on. I go into braille settings under voiceover. 
>> It sees the device. It says not paired, which is a button. I double tap 
>> that. And that is where the joy stops. I know there is a four digit pin 
>> code, but according to humanware in their documentation, this code, which is 
>> four ones, will not appear on the device. There doesn't seem to be any place 
>> to type it in on the phone. So, if that is the problem, me not typing the 
>> pin code, I would like to know how to do that. Otherwise, has anyone had 
>> this problem and fixed it?
>> Mary
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. For some reason the screen input mode keeps changing to six 
dot. Also how do you calibrate? How does explore mode work?
Thanks so much.

> On Oct 4, 2015, at 5:46 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Space: 1 finger to the right. Backspace, 1 to the left. New line, 2 fingers 
> to the right. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Hunt  <prhu...@att.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:26 pm
> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
> indeed?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody. How do you enter special characters like the space bar, the 
>> delete and enter keys?
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Today,  its dead here, too. But yesterday, it felt like  an unreal dream. 
>>> Glad people have came across  it before.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Regina Alvarado  <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:47 pm
>>> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
>>> indeed?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>>>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely 
>>>> unreliable and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it 
>>>> is junk. Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like 
>>>> typing on mush.. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it 
>>>> since I love the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 
>>>> 9.02 was better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>>>> 
>>>> reggie & Lex
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>>>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>>>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad

[Paul Hunt]

You hate IMAP? Why? IMAP is much more flexible than POP 3. You can organize 
your mail into folders. POP doesn't support this feature. Since all of your 
email is kept on the server when you use IMAP, managing email with multiple 
devices isn't an issue. I use my iPhone and my Windows 10 computer with 
outlook. Everything is always synchronized and available on all of my devices. 
If I had an iPad, I would be able to use it to manage email the same way. 

> On Oct 4, 2015, at 6:02 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Well, I like having just 1 account. Even if I have different accounts, that 
> would limit the devices that I could read on. I think I'll just stick with 
> note takers for email, unless someone knows of an Easter egg. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'carol.pearso...@googlemail.com' via VIPhone  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 11:35 am
> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
> 
>> 
>> 
>> What about having a separate POP account to receive your messages from 
>> school, then you can do what you will with them?
>> 
>> Carol P
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Rajmund" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 10:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Yes, I use the braille sense and braillenote for email. And will continue to 
>> do so. As long as gmail supports POP, I'll  be using it. And I'll be using 
>> the Apex for school, because of the keyboard. So this means, if I do some 
>> research, and want to email it from the IPad, I won't be able to, because 
>> the whole thing will screw up. I might as well just leave it alone. And I 
>> could already use IMAP, the sense has it, but I just hate it.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: joseph hudson  
>> To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  
>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:12 pm
>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello, well what do you want to or not, any email client did you come 
>>> across is going to run your emails through IMAP from here on out. And I 
>>> hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's how it is. Oh I guess she 
>>> won't be getting mail on your iPad you'll be staying stuck with your 
>>> outdated software. All because you don't want accept change. I mean come 
>>> on let's be honest, how much school work do you think you're going to 
>>> still do on the apex for the braille since U2? That's can require you to 
>>> email?
 On Oct 3, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
 
 Hello,
 Well, I'm sure I could get used to them. Any accessible clients that 
 support POP? If necessary, I won't set it up on the IPad, but I'm not 
 going down the IMAP path.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: joseph hudson  
 To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  
 Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:00 pm
 Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
 
> 
> 
> Well I hope to be bluntly honest with you, but more and more email 
> providers, are going strictly IMAP. And the most successful client that 
> I found so far especially for a new user, would be the native mail app 
> on the iPad.
>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> LOL, I just thought about that. In theory, POP is more secure, because 
>> once its downloaded, that's it, its gone. whereas with IMAP, you can 
>> go as far as 4 months. And at least to me, IMAP has no advantages, and 
>> its nothing but  trouble. I have a braillenote, that supports nothing 
>> but POP. And I have a braille sense, with horrible IMAP support. So 
>> why should I change  to IMAP? Its a 66% against 33%, so I'm sticking 
>> with POP. My original question of which client would be nice to use 
>> still applies, though.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher Chaltain  
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 8:29 pm
>> Subject: Re: Question about the viewing of mail on an iPad
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm curious, how is POP3 less secure? IMAP has plenty of advantages 
>>> over
>>> POP3, but I've never heard security is one of them. In fact, some 
>>> people
>>> are concerned about the security of IMAP since your email messages 
>>> are
>>> stored on a server and not your own device.
>>> 
 On 10/03/2015 02:16 PM, Daniel Miller wrote:
 Yes, you can only use map now. Besides, pop3 is less secure.
 
> On Oct 3, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Rajmund  

RE: How do I find the comma on the phone keypad to enter a pause?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Keith. When you add phone numbers to contacts, there's a shift key below 
the number 7. When you activate this key, the comma appears below the numbers. 
You have to press the shift key for each comma you enter. The comma enters a 
pause. Each comma increases the pause so you have to play with it a little 
until your dialing accesses the automated phone system and accesses the 
appropriate menu options. I have my phone set up to dial into our paratransit's 
automated system and choose the correct option.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 1:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I find the comma on the phone keypad to enter a pause?

Hi,

I'm trying to set up a phone number with a pause for an extension, but can't 
figure out how to get a comma, for a pause while waiting for voice mail to 
activate before entering the number code.

Can someone please tell me how to do this? I find only the Delete, Star, pound 
and number keys.

Thanks in advance, Keith

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Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, indeed?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. How do you enter special characters like the space bar, the 
delete and enter keys?

> On Oct 4, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Today,  its dead here, too. But yesterday, it felt like  an unreal dream. 
> Glad people have came across  it before.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Regina Alvarado  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:47 pm
> Subject: Re: Braille screen input. Is it just me, or really unreliable, 
> indeed?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
>> and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. 
>> Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on 
>> mush.. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love 
>> the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was 
>> better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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>> 
>> "i have noticed this for quite some time as I either use the keyboard or 
>> mBraille. However, some days the touch of the screen is extremely unreliable 
>> and some days it is like pushing on an old typewriter. Today it is junk. 
>> Every app or email on the keyboard or even in mBraille is like typing on 
>> mush. I just do not get it, but I keep plugging away with it since I love 
>> the phone. By the way, This is not limited to 9.02. I thought 9.02 was 
>> better until today. So I'll keep plugging along. [smiley) 
>> 
>> 
>> reggie & Lex
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Rajmund  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> Is braille screen input in IOS9.02 really temporary, or am I missing 
>> something here? One day it feels like the braille sense, the other, its as 
>> if the screen wasn't working, but it is working. 
>> 
>> Sent from a Braille Sense 
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RE: Periscope

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Christina. I'm totally blind and I'm watching a live broadcast on 
Periscope right now. The key is to follow the person who is doing the broadcast 
on twitter and also in periscope. Once you follow the person, you get a tweet 
when the broadcast starts. Just open the app and you'll find the broadcast.
Paul


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Periscope

is all of the periscope app accessible? I honestly am not into those sorts of 
things. I don’t even have a Facebook account. I am mainly needing it to watch 
some live webinars. Unfortunately, these live webinars are only done on 
Periscope.

I know the app is free so, please do not reply with the app is free so go try 
it. I’m asking because I do not want to waste a lot of time trying to set up an 
account and taking the time to try to learn the app only to discover hours 
later that some important aspects of periscope and the app are not accessible. 
Obviously, I will not be able to see the video feed but I will be able to hear 
it and I will probably need to be able to access the feedback from other 
Periscopers.

Thanks so much ahead of time,
Christina

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RE: Periscope

[Paul Hunt]

Periscope is an app developed by Twitter that allows people to broadcast 
videos. To watch a video, you need to follow the person conducting the 
broadcast on twitter and within Periscope.


-Original Message-
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Rose Combs
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Periscope

What is Periscope?  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Periscope

Hi Christina, I am still new to periscope but from what I have seen it is very 
voice over friendly.  I have tried typing in the chat window and I don't know 
if my chats are seen or not but as I say I am still fairly n we to the app but 
it looks very accessible.  Hope that helps.  And if you get any tips let us 
know please.  

Thanks Lelia 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christina C.
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Periscope

Okay, cool. Can you access the messages others type? Can you only get to the 
video stream through the twitter link?

Thanks,
Christina
> On Sep 28, 2015, at 11:49 AM, Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello Christina. I'm totally blind and I'm watching a live broadcast on 
> Periscope right now. The key is to follow the person who is doing the 
> broadcast on twitter and also in periscope. Once you follow the person, you 
> get a tweet when the broadcast starts. Just open the app and you'll find the 
> broadcast.
> Paul
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Periscope
> 
> is all of the periscope app accessible? I honestly am not into those sorts of 
> things. I don’t even have a Facebook account. I am mainly needing it to watch 
> some live webinars. Unfortunately, these live webinars are only done on 
> Periscope.
> 
> I know the app is free so, please do not reply with the app is free so go try 
> it. I’m asking because I do not want to waste a lot of time trying to set up 
> an account and taking the time to try to learn the app only to discover hours 
> later that some important aspects of periscope and the app are not 
> accessible. Obviously, I will not be able to see the video feed but I will be 
> able to hear it and I will probably need to be able to access the feedback 
> from other Periscopers.
> 
> Thanks so much ahead of time,
> Christina
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Re: Want to be certain erase phone

[Paul Hunt]

I've never seen a sim tool. What do they look like?

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> This is my second IPhone and both of them have SIM card tool.
> HTH.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> SoonerAnnie
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 6:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Want to be certain erase phone
>  
> I have removed three new, never used iPhones from their original boxes but I 
> have never, ever, ever found the SIM card tool in an iPhone box! Where do 
> they hide it? Smile! Thank God for paper clips...
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Gmail
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Want to be certain erase phone
>  
> Tracey, as this 9 to 5 Mac article I've pasted below illustrates, wiping your 
> iDevice of data is more complex now than before.
>  
>  
> If you’re thinking of selling or trading in your current iPhone ahead of the 
> iPhone 6S’s release, you probably know that you’ll need to wipe your device 
> before a buyer can use it free and clear. Prepping an iPhone for resale used 
> to be almost as easy as hitting a “reset” button in the iPhone’s settings 
> menu. But over the past few years, the process has become more complex thanks 
> to new security, wallet, and cloud-dependent features such as Activation 
> Lock, Apple Pay and iTunes in the Cloud. Completely removing all of your 
> personal items from your iPhone — and your iPhone from Apple’s servers — 
> requires extra work.
> Today, I’m going to walk you through the process of thoroughly scrubbing your 
> iPhone prior to resale. There are 9 steps to take to make sure your device is 
> cleaned up and ready to sell to its next owner. Here they are…
> [1] Erase All Content And Settings. The first, easiest, and best-known step 
> in wiping your iPhone is found within the Settings app at the bottom of the 
> General menu: click on Reset, then “Erase All Content And Settings.” (I’d 
> suggest taking this step only after using iTunes to do two complete, 
> encrypted backups of your iPhone to your computer. If you’re planning to move 
> from iPhone to a non-Apple smartphone, follow Apple’s guide to deactivating 
> iMessage before erasing your phone, as well.)
> You will be prompted to enter your iPhone’s passcode, then told that “this 
> will delete all media and data, and erase all settings.” If you press the 
> Erase iPhone button, iOS will ask you for your iCloud account password to 
> “erase this iPhone and remove it from your [iCloud] account.”
> You’ll be surprised at how quickly the iPhone is wiped — as soon as you’ve 
> entered your password and hit erase, you’ll get a notification email on your 
> account’s other devices that Find My iPhone was disabled, and it should take 
> only a couple of minutes for the wiped iPhone to display “Hello” and “Slide 
> to Set Up” text. Is the erasure secure? Well, all of the iPhone’s memory is 
> protected using AES-256 encryption, and hitting the Erase iPhone button 
> destroys the encryption key. Several security companies have tried to offer 
> ‘secure erase’ tools that more aggressively scrub the iPhone’s memory, but 
> Apple has shut those tools down as ‘misleading,’ noting that the encryption 
> is effectively unbreakable. Hitting the Reset button leaves the former 
> contents of your device all but completely impossible to recover by a 
> subsequent owner. But you’ll be able to get everything back from your 
> computer’s encrypted iTunes backup, should you need it.
> [2] What About Activation Lock + Disabling Find My iPhone? As shown above, 
> you can manually disable Find My iPhone by going into the Settings app’s 
> iCloud menu, pressing the Find My iPhone “On” button, flipping the Find My 
> iPhone switch to off, and entering your iCloud password. But if you use the 
> Erase All Content And Settings feature above, this step is automatically 
> handled for you when you enter your iCloud password at the end of the 
> process. Either method will disable your iPhone’s “Activation Lock,” the 
> security system that allows you to locate, remotely wipe, and send signals to 
> an iPhone no longer in your possession. Any purchaser of a used iPhone will 
> expect you to have taken this step (or more wisely, the step above) before 
> selling your device.
> [3] Apple Pay/Credit Card and Touch ID Fingerprint Wiping. If you’re using an 
> iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, or newer iPhone, erasing your iPhone will 
> automatically purge whatever credit cards and fingerprints you’ve stored in 
> your iPhone. (Even attempting to disable fingerprint protection for your 
> device will prevent it from storing cards for Apple Pay.) You will probably 
> receive a collection of emails from your banks noting each “Virtual card” 
> that has been “deleted from Apple Pay,” and you may also receive notices of 
> the card’s deletion from your Apple Watch. 

Re: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. How do I access this podcast on my iPhone 5s?

> On Sep 25, 2015, at 8:39 PM, Karl Smith  wrote:
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> Now that’s an awesome little feature and I can see how handy it would be for 
> me as I have piles of pictures with useless names like 3428A69.jpg which mean 
> nothing to me. Thanks to you and Heidi.
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jonathan Mosen
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 4:04 PM
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> Subject: Audio Demonstration of Live Photos in the iPhone 6s Plus
>  
> Hi everyone, I've had quite a few requests asking me to demonstrate how live 
> photos work. So in this instance, I've put a podcast together as I explore it 
> for the first time, working out how it might best be used as an accessibility 
> tool. You can listen to the demo here.
> Jonathan Mosen
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> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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Re: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?

[Paul Hunt]

Simply use Microsoft Word for IOS. It's accessible and works well.

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I appreciate all the feedback. I just got more info on this little job they 
> want me to do, and it may be something I can do. They look like they're using 
> some kind of template that they have already formatted in the DOC X format. I 
> have never felt particularly comfortable with templates. And I don't think 
> Doc X and text edit like each other in that I don't think you can actually 
> type a DOC X thing in TextEdit, can you? So they may be looking for another 
> person. I used to just take minutes free hand so to speak, with no template. 
> Just format it nicely afterwards. Oh well. And Rose, I feel your pain about 
> the braille. I love the Perkins Brailer writer. But I am a much better typist 
> than braillist these days.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>> 
>> I feel your pain, I am doing a project at church in a few weeks and they 
>> asked if I had a laptop, I do, and at home I connect a wireless keyboard.  
>> However, if I were to carry it around with me not an option and I am 
>> constantly hitting the touch pad on a Lenovo laptop and sending it to who 
>> knows where, I hate how far the keyboard is back, makes me lean forward and 
>> I keep resting the palm of either hand on the stupid thing,  On the Toshiba 
>> my husband had, very old, I could turn that off with function key 9, can't 
>> seem to do it on the Lenovo with any key, not even through the control 
>> panel, maybe it can be done, but so far not by me.  
>> 
>> I'd much rather type notes etc. but for now it looks like I will learn the 
>> Focus 14 commands which I did not have time for last spring when I bought 
>> the device and braille.  I love braille, don't get me wrong, however, in the 
>> past nearly 40 years I have typed 8 hours or more a day,  brailed just maybe 
>> a couple of times a week or less.  I once was very fast but now am not, 
>> especially on tiny keys on a braille display.  Well have to devote time to 
>> this instead of other things to make it work for me, I use the Focus 
>> minimally thus far as I was working full time in the spring, transitioning 
>> to a new company not by my choice, then ill, was terminated and am now 
>> retired earlier than I wished to be.  
>> 
>> Any display users, especially of the Focus are welcome to contact me at 
>> roseco...@q.com 
>> 
>> I read braille perfectly, recognize mistakes easily but, these little keys 
>> are going to be my downfall.  I used a Braille note for years, loved it but, 
>> probably will need something I can use where others can see what is 
>> happening is the reason I was asked about a laptop or I device.  My iPad is 
>> wifi only and bought just at the end of its cycle in early September 2013 as 
>> a present after I taught my husband how to use one with VO and zoom for him 
>> not me.  He bought me a mini after that and just before new announcements 
>> were made.  First gen so although I use it at home, it isn't going anywhere 
>> and his was donated to a friend who spent months on a ventilator unable to 
>> talk but very much mentally with it.  I helped set it up so it could talk 
>> for him after my husband passed a year ago in the spring.  
>> So choice now looks like either hooking the Focus to the laptop via 
>> Bluetooth, if I can or using my iPhone which would be less to carry.  
>> My Braille note is an mPower, and if no one needed to see what I was doing, 
>> and if I could get it to connect to my home network so I could load it 
>> easier it would be my choice.  
>> 
>> I still use it but cannot get it to connect to anything even with a network 
>> card these days.  Never truly worked well in that regard anyway.  However, 
>> makes it useless as an e-mail client also and probably would not open the 
>> documents I will be sent.  
>> Long story as to why I did not upgrade it, let's just say HW and I are no 
>> longer friendly.  
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
>> memory!
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:06 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Taking notes for meeting, Mac or iPad?
>> 
>> I have been asked to substitute as a minutes take her for an upcoming 
>> meeting. I used to do this on a PC laptop in MS Word with complete 
>> confidence and competence. However, that laptop is long since gone and 
>> buried.
>> At this point, my choices are to use my eye pad with a Bluetooth keyboard 
>> and pray that I don't get bit by the Bluetooth bug in iOS 9, choosing among 
>> apps such as voice dream writer or the new notes app. Or I could borrow my 
>> husbands 11 inch MacBook 

Re: Cannot Back Up iPhone

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. is there a way that I can back up my iPhone in iTunes if I 
forgot my encrypted password? 
Thanks so much.

> On Sep 16, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Can you at least backup to iCloud?
> 
> I would first try 2 things: use a different cable and try a different USB 
> port. You could also do my cure-all which is a Reset Network Settings to see 
> if that helps. I would also go into the iTunes preferences, go to the Device 
> tab and delete any backups that may be there. As a last resort you could 
> completely uninstall iTunes and reinstall it and of course you could call the 
> Apple Accessibility support line and see if they can help.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 3:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Cannot Back Up iPhone
> 
> This has gone on for a long time, and I have just ignored it. My last backup 
> of my iPhone 5 to iTunes on my Windows 7 PC was late April 2014.
> 
> It says it is backing up and goes through "step 3 of 6", etc. In 1 minute or 
> so, I get an error that this iPhone could not be backed up because the iPhone 
> disconnected. It then says "list box DELTA button". I am getting all this 
> reporting via JAWS.
> 
> I am able to move music, etc. from the PC to phone. I also could move 30 
> purchases from the phone, which took a lot more time than I am getting before 
> the backup is interrupted.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> Eric
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Re: Caution: Apple Tech Says Audible App Has Slightly Damaged my iOS Installation

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. All technicians are not created equal. I once had a seri issue 
after resetting my iPhone to its default settings. A technician told me to 
restore my iPhone. I later discovered that I had to enable seri. It's probably 
unlikely that an app will damage an installation. You could get a second 
opinion, live with the issue or reinstall IOS.

 On Aug 18, 2015, at 5:48 AM, Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, everyone.
 
 I recently brought my 2.5-year-old iPhone 5 into my local Apple store for a 
 battery check.  It passed well, but the technician who did the work-up told 
 me that two apps, one of which was the Audible app, had slightly damaged the 
 iOS installation.  He could repair the OS, he said, but repair, although 
 free, would take along time.  He didn't think the damage was significant and 
 urged that I not have it undertaken, suggesting rather that I un-install the 
 offending apps and re-install them to see if I noticed a difference in 
 battery life.  I was surprised to learn that an app could damage an iOS 
 installation.  Since the advice came from an Apple technician, I thought it 
 important to post here.  Has anyone on the list ever received such a warning 
 or heard of this possibility?  I have un-installed the 2.5x version of 
 Audible I have been using since I think it is most likely the guilty culprit. 
 
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RE: automatically sort apps into alphabetical order?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Chris. Unless there’s a third party app to do this, I don’t know of 
another way to sort apps. I have mine in alphabetic order within folders. When 
I get a new app, I move it to the proper place.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chris Smart
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: automatically sort apps into alphabetical order?

 

Hi folks.

Is it possible to automatically sort apps by name, into alphabetical order?

I did find an option to reset the home screen layout to default. That's not 
what I want to do. I already have my apps organized neatly into several 
folders. I'd like to sort the order of apps inside said folders, if that's 
possible at all.

Or do I need to just buckle down and spend an hour dragging apps around?

Chris




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Re: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. After playing with the app, I also found it to be completely 
inaccessible. I also reported the issues. Until ADT fixes the problem, the 
website can be used as a work around.

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 4:21 AM, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 
 You can count the images and create a pin but it does no good to get into the 
 pulse app because everything in the app is totally inaccessible. They really 
 did a great job in breaking VO. We have contacted them via phone but they 
 have no idea what voice over even is. We were told they would pass the 
 information onto the correct people but I don’t hold much hope they will fix 
 it. Big disappointment.
  
 I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than 
 live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway
 
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Re: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Robin. Thanks for your advocacy. Who do I call to get the keypad with 
voice output? 

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have a bit more hope than you perhaps.  I stayed on the phone until I went 
 up the food chain through about 3 supervisors and up a few levels. The issue 
 is now known and understood.  the people in the pulse department unlike the 
 run of the mill customer service reps do know what VoiceOver is and the issue 
 has been raised to critical.  they called me to let me know that 28 minutes 
 into yesterday’s business day.
 I’ve been quite vocal on twitter through which I was also the recipient of a 
 response that indicated understanding of the issue.
 Perhaps you’d like to call again and join my wee advocacy effort for change a 
 fresh (smile).
 I've found it requires patience but can yield fruit if one is willing to try, 
 be persistent and  succinct and respectful but firm and insistent.  I for one 
 have had dialogs with them about accessibility on prior occasions to a lesser 
 degree than this one.  So they are aware that blind and visually impaired 
 people are amongst their customer base after all they offer keypads with 
 speech output.
 I agree they’ve done a terrible job and the breakage that has resulted is 
 reprehensible and shameful  Thus I told them in no uncertain terms all the 
 while remaining calm and respectful as best as I could.
 Here’s hoping for the best.
 Robin
  
  
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 Subject: RE: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update
  
 You can count the images and create a pin but it does no good to get into the 
 pulse app because everything in the app is totally inaccessible. They really 
 did a great job in breaking VO. We have contacted them via phone but they 
 have no idea what voice over even is. We were told they would pass the 
 information onto the correct people but I don’t hold much hope they will fix 
 it. Big disappointment.
  
 I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than 
 live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway
 
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 Web: www.blindtreasures.com
  
 
  
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Re: App Accessibility and the ADA

[Paul Hunt]

I'd like Apple to require apps to be completely accessible before the let them 
into the app store.

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 to clarify Mary Ann's comments, The ADA does not mandate information
 or communications to be accessible in a specific format.  Mary Ann's
 comments could be applied to Braille as well.  The ADA requires
 communications to be accessible.  The format used for this
 accessibility depends on how effective the format is for access and
 the blind person's skills and needs.
 
 Kelly
 
 On 7/22/15, Chris Smart csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 thanks for that info Marianne.
 
 At 10:58 AM 7/21/2015, you wrote:
 
 Chris, there is no current or past legislation that requires apps to
 be accessible.  The NFB is working on making all programs that come
 into public schools or institutions of higher learning accessible but
 it hasn't fully happened yet.
 
 On 7/21/15, Chris Smart
 [?cs=whv=bto=csma...@cogeco.ca]csma...@cogeco.ca wrote:
 I'm not a US citizen, so forgive me if this question is ignorant.
 Does the ADA or any other US law compel app and other software
 developers to
 make their products accessible?  I know the ADA applies to buildings and
 such, but what about software?
 
 I'm considering filing a report with the Better Business Bureau in the
 case
 of one company, mostly to get their full attention. Obviously I'd like
 to
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Re: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Robin. 

 On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:50 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I’d call the toll free number and ask to be connected to the local sales 
 office in your area they should be able to help. they have talking keypads 
 for mounting on the wall as well as a talking remote which sports an off 
 button, away button, stay button and a panic button that talks as well.  It’s 
 larger than the key fob style controller perhaps more akin to the remote one 
 would have for a garage door opener.  My apologies for straying slightly away 
 from the topic of specifically iOS related things to answer the question.
 I’ll be quiet now.
 Robin
  
  
 From: Paul Hunt
 Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 6:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update
  
 Hello Robin. Thanks for your advocacy. Who do I call to get the keypad with 
 voice output?
 
 On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:01 AM, Robin Frost robinn...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I have a bit more hope than you perhaps.  I stayed on the phone until I went 
 up the food chain through about 3 supervisors and up a few levels. The issue 
 is now known and understood.  the people in the pulse department unlike the 
 run of the mill customer service reps do know whatVoiceOver is and the 
 issue has been raised to critical.  they called me to let me know that 28 
 minutes into yesterday’s business day.
 I’ve been quite vocal on twitter through which I was also the recipient of a 
 response that indicated understanding of the issue.
 Perhaps you’d like to call again and join my wee advocacy effort for change 
 a fresh (smile).
 I've found it requires patience but can yield fruit if one is willing to 
 try, be persistent and  succinct and respectful but firm and insistent.  I 
 for one have had dialogs with them about accessibility on prior occasions to 
 a lesser degree than this one.  So they are aware that blind and visually 
 impaired people are amongst their customer base after all they offer keypads 
 with speech output.
 I agree they’ve done a terrible job and the breakage that has resulted is 
 reprehensible and shameful  Thus I told them in no uncertain terms all the 
 while remaining calm and respectful as best as I could.
 Here’s hoping for the best.
 Robin
  
  
 From: Blind Treasures
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 Subject: RE: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update
  
 You can count the images and create a pin but it does no good to get into 
 the pulse app because everything in the app is totally inaccessible. They 
 really did a great job in breaking VO. We have contacted them via phone but 
 they have no idea what voice over even is. We were told they would pass the 
 information onto the correct people but I don’t hold much hope they will fix 
 it. Big disappointment.
 
  
 
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RE: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Robin. I remember you from our Freedom Scientific Scripting class. When I 
signed into the app, I got a screen that asked me to set a pin. Unfortunately 
there isn’t a keyboard, just a bunch of images. I skipped the pin process and 
was able to get into the site. The pin allows you to access the pulse app 
without entering a login and password. When I get a chance, I’ll communicate 
this issue to the app developer.

Thanks so much.

I hope you have a nice day.

Paul

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problems With the ADT Pulse App Update

 

Hi,

I’m not sure if anyone else on this list uses the pulse app from ADT but if 
anyone does be warned.  There is an update which was issued this morning in the 
US app store anyway and it seems to be severely broken in terms of usability 
with VoiceOver at least by me.  I’m not one who’s opposed to exploring the 
screen and such but having said that I can’t get VoiceOver to interact 
successfully with any element or control on screen once logged in even if 
VoiceOver lets me find said elements no action I know to use in voiceOver 
impacts them.  I’ve already expressed my displeasure respectfully via twitter 
and have contacted ADT directly to make them aware of the problem in hopes of 
creating dialog so as to bring about a quick resolution to this situation.

If there are any other users of the ADT Pulse app who have more success in 
working with the new update and VoiceOver I’d love to hear about it; or if you 
can reproduce the problems do join my respectful complaining to ADT party.

Robin

 

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Re: Organizing Contacts

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Hello Everybody. I put my contacts into groups. You can do this if you have a 
mac or a windows pc. I have a Windows pc running office 2013. I move my 
contacts into the appropriate groups and sync with ITunes. It's easier to do on 
a mac. Perhaps Apple will make it possible to manage groups in IOS soon. 

 On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I know this doesn't answer the original question, but you can also use your 
 favorites if you want to have an important subset of your contacts.
 
 On 06/29/2015 09:46 AM, Chris Smart wrote:
 have you tried searching for a name?
 
 Alternatively, this article written for sighted folks may help if you
 can do this on a PC or Mac with a screenreader.
 http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-set-up-contact-groups-in-ios/
 
 Chris
 
 At 08:16 AM 6/29/2015, you wrote:
 As with a lot of people I have a lot of contacts. Some are my
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RE: copy and paste of text messages to email

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Hello everybody. If you’re reading an email message and want to copy and paste 
the entire message, here’s how you can do it.

1. You must select some text so that the edit option is available in the rotor. 
You can select some text with either the pinch gesture or a three finger 
quadruple tap. It doesn’t matter how much text you select.

2. choose the Edit option in the rotor.

3. flick to the Select All option and do a one finger double tap.

4. Flick to the copy option and do a one finger double tap.

5. switch to the app where you want to paste your text.

6. Paste your text in the normal manner.

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: copy and paste of text messages to email

 

Hi!

OK I'm on a iPhone 6 I've just opened one of my text messages and when on the 
body of the message I turned the rota to edit then 1 finger flick down to copy 
and singled finger double tapped!

Then opened Mail and chose compose and in the body of the new mail selected 
edit and the option to paste was there!

I just double tapped on it and all the text was pasted into that Email!

HTH Colin

 

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mailto:dbeaver...@gmail.com  wrote:

 

Hi,

 

I have a text message that has some info I need to get into an email.  How do I 
do this?  I thought I could copy and paste it but I am not having much success 
with my efforts.

 

I am running an Iphone five with IOS 8.3..

 

thanks.

 

Dan Beaver

 

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Re: iReconcile

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Robert can you synchronize with your bank?

 On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:06 PM, Robert Doc wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
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 thanks. I thought that the field after ref was the type of transaction, 
 I.e. check, debit card, atm...
  
 Open catagory with dt
 type your catagory if there is a sub-catagory separate with a semicolon(;)
  
 Yes, I do have the paid version.
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 Subject: Re: iReconcile
 
 Hello Robert. There's a field called refnum. The check number goes in this 
 field. Put the first check number in this field. Then the chk button will get 
 the next check number. How do you manage categories and subcategories? How do 
 you load transactions from the bank? Did you get the paid version?
 
 On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:01 AM, Robert Doc wright yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com 
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 I have another question. How do you set the first check number?
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 Subject: Re: iReconcile
 
 Hello Robert. I downloaded the free version of IReconcile. Unlike many 
 checkbook apps, you must create memorized payees then you can use them. You 
 will find this item in the more tab. The process is accessible and 
 intuitive. 
 
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 Help! If someone on the list is familiar with memorizing transactions in 
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Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

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Hello Keith. Yes this works.
Thanks.

 On Jun 25, 2015, at 2:31 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No. You don't need to turn it back on. In fact, it won't be long until
 the Brailliant freezes again, and you will have to turn it off again.
 Like I said, it's definitely not good, but it's the best we can do at
 this time.
 
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 Thanks Keith. I'll give this a try. Do you turn quicknav back on when your
 display frees?
 
 
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 Hi, Paul. That is exactly what happens, and, 95% of the time, turning
 QuickNav off works just fine. Occassionally, I will have to lock the iPhone
 and then unlock it to reestablish a Bluetooth connection, but, as I said,
 about 95% of the time, pressing Space with dots 4-5 works to unlock the
 machine.
 
 On 6/22/15, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Hello Keith. When I'm writing Braille on my Brailliant, the display
 locks up. Does this happen to you? Do you recover by turning Quick nav
 off? If that doesn't work, what do you do?
 Thanks.
 
 On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, Paul. I am using the Brailliant BI 32 with an iPhone 5S with
 16 gb. I noticed some change, though not as much as I had hoped. At
 times, I still have to press dots 4-5 with Space, which turns off
 what is called QuickNav and makes the Braille appear.
 
 In the middle of all this garbage with the Brailliant, I did make
 another discovery. Often in meetings I will use the Braille layout in
 IOS 8.3 and take notes that way. It appears immediately on the
 Braille display so can be read back conveniently.
 
 It's a little bit of extra hassle, but since I already own the
 Brailliant, it is definitely better than trying to buy a new display.
 This debate between Humanware and Apple seems to be continuous, with
 neither side taking responsibility for the problem.
 
 
 On 6/22/15, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Hello Keith. I installed the firmware update and found no differences.
 Brailleing has never been an issue for me but the Brailliant BI40
 locks up when I write in IOS applications. It's so bad that I can't
 take notes during meetings. This makes the entire solution unusable.
 Humanware  promised that this update addresses the issue. I haven't
 seen any improvement. If you have, please be specific and let us
 know why you think this update improved the experience with the
 BI40. Please also tell us what devices you are using it with, what
 version of IOS are you using and how much memory is on each device.
 This will help me when I deal with both Humanware and Apple.
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Keith B.
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS
 
 
 
 Hi, Kim. There has just been a new firmware update for the
 Brailliant released in the past month or so which makes it much
 easier to type in Braille on the IOS device. If you do not know how
 to update the firmware, let me know off-list and I will help.
 
 
 
 Keith
 
 
 On Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-5, kim crawford wrote:
 
 Is it possible to type with the brilliant VI 32 on the Mac and iOS
 as well I did try on the iOS device but my didn't work when I tried
 entering with contracted braille or 8 dot Braille so some assistance
 would definitely be appreciated thank you for all your help
 
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RE: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

[Paul Hunt]

Thanks Keith. I'll give this a try. Do you turn quicknav back on when your 
display frees?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Keith Bundy
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

Hi, Paul. That is exactly what happens, and, 95% of the time, turning QuickNav 
off works just fine. Occassionally, I will have to lock the iPhone and then 
unlock it to reestablish a Bluetooth connection, but, as I said, about 95% of 
the time, pressing Space with dots 4-5 works to unlock the machine.

On 6/22/15, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Hello Keith. When I'm writing Braille on my Brailliant, the display 
 locks up. Does this happen to you? Do you recover by turning Quick nav 
 off? If that doesn't work, what do you do?
 Thanks.

 On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, Paul. I am using the Brailliant BI 32 with an iPhone 5S with 
 16 gb. I noticed some change, though not as much as I had hoped. At 
 times, I still have to press dots 4-5 with Space, which turns off 
 what is called QuickNav and makes the Braille appear.

 In the middle of all this garbage with the Brailliant, I did make 
 another discovery. Often in meetings I will use the Braille layout in 
 IOS 8.3 and take notes that way. It appears immediately on the 
 Braille display so can be read back conveniently.

 It's a little bit of extra hassle, but since I already own the 
 Brailliant, it is definitely better than trying to buy a new display.
 This debate between Humanware and Apple seems to be continuous, with 
 neither side taking responsibility for the problem.


 On 6/22/15, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Hello Keith. I installed the firmware update and found no differences.
 Brailleing has never been an issue for me but the Brailliant BI40 
 locks up when I write in IOS applications. It's so bad that I can't 
 take notes during meetings. This makes the entire solution unusable. 
 Humanware  promised that this update addresses the issue. I haven't 
 seen any improvement. If you have, please be specific and let us 
 know why you think this update improved the experience with the 
 BI40. Please also tell us what devices you are using it with, what 
 version of IOS are you using and how much memory is on each device. 
 This will help me when I deal with both Humanware and Apple.

 Thanks so much.

 Paul





 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Keith B.
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS



 Hi, Kim. There has just been a new firmware update for the 
 Brailliant released in the past month or so which makes it much 
 easier to type in Braille on the IOS device. If you do not know how 
 to update the firmware, let me know off-list and I will help.



 Keith


 On Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-5, kim crawford wrote:

 Is it possible to type with the brilliant VI 32 on the Mac and iOS 
 as well I did try on the iOS device but my didn't work when I tried 
 entering with contracted braille or 8 dot Braille so some assistance 
 would definitely be appreciated thank you for all your help

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Re: iReconcile

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Hello Robert. There's a field called refnum. The check number goes in this 
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the next check number. How do you manage categories and subcategories? How do 
you load transactions from the bank? Did you get the paid version?

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 I have another question. How do you set the first check number?
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 Hello Robert. I downloaded the free version of IReconcile. Unlike many 
 checkbook apps, you must create memorized payees then you can use them. You 
 will find this item in the more tab. The process is accessible and intuitive. 
 
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 Help! If someone on the list is familiar with memorizing transactions in 
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Re: iReconcile

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Not that I know of.

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 So, is there no way to make an existing transaction memorized?
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RE: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Keith. I installed the firmware update and found no differences. 
Brailleing has never been an issue for me but the Brailliant BI40 locks up when 
I write in IOS applications. It's so bad that I can't take notes during 
meetings. This makes the entire solution unusable. Humanware  promised that 
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experience with the BI40. Please also tell us what devices you are using it 
with, what version of IOS are you using and how much memory is on each device. 
This will help me when I deal with both Humanware and Apple.

Thanks so much.

Paul

 

 

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Keith B.
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

 

Hi, Kim. There has just been a new firmware update for the Brailliant released 
in the past month or so which makes it much easier to type in Braille on the 
IOS device. If you do not know how to update the firmware, let me know off-list 
and I will help.

 

Keith


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Is it possible to type with the brilliant VI 32 on the Mac and iOS as well  I 
did try on the iOS device but my didn't work when I tried entering with 
contracted braille or 8 dot Braille so some assistance would definitely be 
appreciated thank you for all your help

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Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Keith. When I'm writing Braille on my Brailliant, the display locks up. 
Does this happen to you? Do you recover by turning Quick nav off? If that 
doesn't work, what do you do?
Thanks. 

 On Jun 22, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Keith Bundy kb5...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello, Paul. I am using the Brailliant BI 32 with an iPhone 5S with 16
 gb. I noticed some change, though not as much as I had hoped. At
 times, I still have to press dots 4-5 with Space, which turns off what
 is called QuickNav and makes the Braille appear.
 
 In the middle of all this garbage with the Brailliant, I did make
 another discovery. Often in meetings I will use the Braille layout in
 IOS 8.3 and take notes that way. It appears immediately on the Braille
 display so can be read back conveniently.
 
 It's a little bit of extra hassle, but since I already own the
 Brailliant, it is definitely better than trying to buy a new display.
 This debate between Humanware and Apple seems to be continuous, with
 neither side taking responsibility for the problem.
 
 
 On 6/22/15, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 Hello Keith. I installed the firmware update and found no differences.
 Brailleing has never been an issue for me but the Brailliant BI40 locks up
 when I write in IOS applications. It's so bad that I can't take notes during
 meetings. This makes the entire solution unusable. Humanware  promised that
 this update addresses the issue. I haven't seen any improvement. If you
 have, please be specific and let us know why you think this update improved
 the experience with the BI40. Please also tell us what devices you are using
 it with, what version of IOS are you using and how much memory is on each
 device. This will help me when I deal with both Humanware and Apple.
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 
 
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 Of Keith B.
 Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 9:49 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Typing with a brilliant VI 32 on Mac and iOS
 
 
 
 Hi, Kim. There has just been a new firmware update for the Brailliant
 released in the past month or so which makes it much easier to type in
 Braille on the IOS device. If you do not know how to update the firmware,
 let me know off-list and I will help.
 
 
 
 Keith
 
 
 On Saturday, June 20, 2015 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-5, kim crawford wrote:
 
 Is it possible to type with the brilliant VI 32 on the Mac and iOS as well
 I did try on the iOS device but my didn't work when I tried entering with
 contracted braille or 8 dot Braille so some assistance would definitely be
 appreciated thank you for all your help
 
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Re: iReconcile

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Re: Replacing Braille Notetaker with iDevice

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I would like to make this discussion practical. I have chosen 
not to purchase a dedicated notetaker when a laptop and screen reader give me 
more features more timely and at a lower price. Sometimes I don't want to carry 
a laptop. Since Apple has built braille display support into Voiceover, I 
expect it to be properly implemented and to work flawlessly.
I own a Humanware Brailliant BI 40 and a 16 gig iPhone 5S. I can read all day 
long but when I write, the BI 40 locks up and by the time I recover I've missed 
some notes during meetings, etc. I've tried to work with both companies. 
Instead of solving the problem, they are blaming each other. Since Apple has 
the resources and controls the environment I expect Apple to take the lead and 
I expect Humanware to work with Apple to resolve the issue. How can we promptly 
get their attention when the usual channels of communication don't work?
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:20 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Tara, yet again you are misrepresenting my comments.
 In saying that Apple has chosen to be a screen reader company, I am not 
 saying they shouldn't have, and I think I made that very clear. Like many 
 people on this list, my life is enriched every day by the fact that Apple has 
 chosen to be a screen reader company. And you can find many books and blog 
 posts I've written, as well as media interviews I've done, where I make this 
 point.
 I am saying, however, that they should be held to no lesser standard than any 
 other screen reader company. When Apple developed their own Maps app in iOS 
 6, this made them a navigation company. They blew it, big time, consumers 
 objected, and Apple made a course correction. That's because, quite rightly, 
 consumers held Apple to the same standard that they did other maps providers.
 Let me reiterate that I don't beleive a notetaker is the best choice in all 
 situations. A good PC or Windows tablet will be far cheaper, and in some 
 cases, far better, for many people.
 
 Jonathan Mosen,
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology information, eBooks and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 21/06/2015, at 4:19 pm, TaraPrakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All the points about the utility of Braille are well taken, Jonathan's 
 concern about survival about Braille, and that those who know Braille are  
 more successful in employment field is also agreeable to me (Even if I am 
 not sure the source of this statistics that Jonathan quoted in his response 
 addressed to me..)
 The problem for me is his assertion that Apple has decided to become a 
 screen reader company etc  What I read in that comment is a suggestion 
 that Apple shouldn't have ventured in to providing screen support as there 
 are specialists for it. That somehow the assistive technology specialist 
 companies 
 are doing a better job for promotion of braille than apple. So, here is my 
 suggestion for humanware and freedom scientific who are likely to listen to 
 Jonathan, whose work with those companies has been commendable; and these 
 companies hardly face any resolution against them in the conventions of 
 blindness organizations who represent the blind. Let Freedom Scientific and 
 Humanware make the braille note takers at the same price as the price of 
 their note takers without braille. Voice sense, voice note and Packmate 
 without Braille display sell for around 3500. with braille option they sell 
 close to 6500. Why that extra price for Braille? Is it acceptable at all to 
 have these devices without braille as they are meant for the purpose of the 
 blind and it has been established that blind are more successful if they 
 learn braille? Even if they well their devices without Braille, is it 
 acceptable that they charge so much extra for their Braille note takers? I 
 would like some comments on that.
 Now, you may say that it's okay charge me extra but give me a better braille 
 support but I am not sure if that will be acceptable to those who seem to 
 speak for all of us with regard to braille. 
 I am sorry I do not want to cause any debate about this issue on this list, 
 but when someone linked with blindness speciality devices and software 
 suggest that if apple has come in to screen reading support , it has to be 
 perfect, I find myself very skeptical about the added justiification about 
 survival of braille and literacy etc. True apple's braille support is not 
 perfect, but it will be wrong to assume that a dedicated note taker is going 
 to perform any better for you than an I device with a braille display. 
 braille note takers are improving but they are not still the paragons of 
 perfection. the makers of those devices claim that they are fully functional 
 computers, those who have those note takers know that they are anything but. 
 They are still slow, clunky and love to hang from time to time. I would 
 suggest to schedule a meeting with an organization that sells these note 
 takers, and 

Re: Braille display with iPhone, using the at symbol

[Paul Hunt]

Hello. Try dot four followed by dot 1.

 On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:38 AM, Ryan Mann rmann0...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If somebody is using a Braille display with an iPhone, is there any way to 
 use the @ (at) symbol without switching to uncontracted Braille? This 
 symbol is needed to type email addresses or tag people on FaceBook.
 
 
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Re: Replacing Braille Notetaker with iDevice

[Paul Hunt]

In my opinion the firmware update doesn't do anything to resolve the issue.

 On Jun 21, 2015, at 10:06 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Alex.
 
 It is so frustrating that the brailliant looses the contact to the phone when 
 writing, it has become better in the last firmware update, but the problem is 
 still present. The display is a really great display, and in my opinion one 
 of the best except for that bug. It would be great if it could be fixed.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 21/06/2015 kl. 16.15 skrev Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com:
 
 I do agree that braille input on iOS needs work. As to locking up, though, 
 is this only in the Humanware displays? Those who follow me probably know I 
 strongly dislike Humanware as a company, because of out-of-date and broken 
 features, promises they failed to deliver on, and a tendency to blame other 
 companies for their shortcomings.
 
 For example, when I used an Apex with my iPod all the time, delete was 
 space-d and enter was space-e. This made the enter command especially 
 annoying, because you had to hit a special command before the Apex would 
 pass space-e along instead of reading it as the 'exit' command. When I asked 
 HW why they didn't use dots 7 and 8 like all the other braille displays, 
 they blamed Apple. When I asked about the scroll wheel not being supported, 
 they blamed Apple. When I asked why, in later versions of Keysoft, the Apex 
 would randomly lock up and need a reset while connected to iOS, they blamed 
 Apple. The thing is, no other display I've used or heard of has these 
 problems, and even the Apex didn't lock up until KS9.2, if memory serves. It 
 was working fine, then, after a Keysoft update, it wasn't. Humanware just 
 blamed Apple, and, as far as I know, *still* hasn't fixed anything. Now I'm 
 hearing that the Brailliant displays do the same thing, and I have to wonder 
 if this isn't yet another  Humanware quality control problem.
 
 All that to say: if it were me, I'd get a display from any company except 
 Humanware. Yes, input needs work, and that's all Apple, but some of the AT 
 companies aren't exactly paragons of great hardware and software.
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Hi Paul, I wish I had a better answer other than continuing to write to 
 Apple Accessibility, and putting pressure on via those who make the 
 purchasing decisions about these devices.
 We have to stand firm and let them know the implementation isn't fit for 
 purpose.
 You're absolutely on the right track with your diagnosis. If your display 
 is working fine with other solutions such as a laptop, then clearly we're 
 dealing with a driver issue, and Apple writes all the drivers to talk to 
 the various Braille displays. No matter what Braille display we're using, 
 we're going to have the contracted input issues because they're a function 
 of iOS.
 I think frustration is mounting because people have been pointing out these 
 issues for some years now.
 One thing that hasn't yet been done, and in my view should be, is an 
 Applevis campaign of the month. I've not seen such a campaign for a while 
 now, but Applevis has gone after third-party developers who've provided a 
 less than optimal experience for VO users. So with something as critical as 
 our very literacy, this is an issue that warrants the site's serious 
 attention in my opinion.
 
 Jonathan Mosen,
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology information, eBooks and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 21/06/2015, at 11:31 pm, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hello everybody. I would like to make this discussion practical. I have 
 chosen not to purchase a dedicated notetaker when a laptop and screen 
 reader give me more features more timely and at a lower price. Sometimes I 
 don't want to carry a laptop. Since Apple has built braille display 
 support into Voiceover, I expect it to be properly implemented and to work 
 flawlessly.
 I own a Humanware Brailliant BI 40 and a 16 gig iPhone 5S. I can read all 
 day long but when I write, the BI 40 locks up and by the time I recover 
 I've missed some notes during meetings, etc. I've tried to work with both 
 companies. Instead of solving the problem, they are blaming each other. 
 Since Apple has the resources and controls the environment I expect Apple 
 to take the lead and I expect Humanware to work with Apple to resolve the 
 issue. How can we promptly get their attention when the usual channels of 
 communication don't work?
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:20 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 Tara, yet again you are misrepresenting my comments.
 In saying that Apple has chosen to be a screen reader company, I am not 
 saying they shouldn't have, and I think I made that very clear. Like many 
 people on this list, my life is enriched every day by the fact that Apple 
 has chosen to be a screen reader company. And you can find many books and 
 blog posts I've

RE: Replacing Braille Notetaker with iDevice

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Jonnathan. I have two questions for you.

1. When using a focus 40 blue with IOS devices, does the focus ever lock up 
when you are writing braille?  Do you have a 16 32 or 64 bit IOS device?

2. Does Apple have to write drivers for each braille display? What part do the 
braille display manufacturers play in making sure their devices work with IOS? 
I'm asking you because you were vice president of Hardware products with 
Freedom Scientific so your experience here may halp us in our advocacy efforts.

As far as the Humanware Firmware update is concerned, it did nothing to resolve 
the problem of the Brailliant locking up.

Thanks so much.

 

Paul

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Replacing Braille Notetaker with iDevice

 

Hi Paul, I wish I had a better answer other than continuing to write to Apple 
Accessibility, and putting pressure on via those who make the purchasing 
decisions about these devices.

We have to stand firm and let them know the implementation isn't fit for 
purpose.

You're absolutely on the right track with your diagnosis. If your display is 
working fine with other solutions such as a laptop, then clearly we're dealing 
with a driver issue, and Apple writes all the drivers to talk to the various 
Braille displays. No matter what Braille display we're using, we're going to 
have the contracted input issues because they're a function of iOS.

I think frustration is mounting because people have been pointing out these 
issues for some years now.

One thing that hasn't yet been done, and in my view should be, is an Applevis 
campaign of the month. I've not seen such a campaign for a while now, but 
Applevis has gone after third-party developers who've provided a less than 
optimal experience for VO users. So with something as critical as our very 
literacy, this is an issue that warrants the site's serious attention in my 
opinion.

Jonathan Mosen,

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology information, eBooks and training

http://Mosen.org


On 21/06/2015, at 11:31 pm, Paul Hunt prhu...@att.net mailto:prhu...@att.net 
 wrote:

Hello everybody. I would like to make this discussion practical. I have chosen 
not to purchase a dedicated notetaker when a laptop and screen reader give me 
more features more timely and at a lower price. Sometimes I don't want to carry 
a laptop. Since Apple has built braille display support into Voiceover, I 
expect it to be properly implemented and to work flawlessly.

I own a Humanware Brailliant BI 40 and a 16 gig iPhone 5S. I can read all day 
long but when I write, the BI 40 locks up and by the time I recover I've missed 
some notes during meetings, etc. I've tried to work with both companies. 
Instead of solving the problem, they are blaming each other. Since Apple has 
the resources and controls the environment I expect Apple to take the lead and 
I expect Humanware to work with Apple to resolve the issue. How can we promptly 
get their attention when the usual channels of communication don't work?

On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:20 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
mailto:jmo...@mosen.org  wrote:

Tara, yet again you are misrepresenting my comments.

In saying that Apple has chosen to be a screen reader company, I am not saying 
they shouldn't have, and I think I made that very clear. Like many people on 
this list, my life is enriched every day by the fact that Apple has chosen to 
be a screen reader company. And you can find many books and blog posts I've 
written, as well as media interviews I've done, where I make this point.

I am saying, however, that they should be held to no lesser standard than any 
other screen reader company. When Apple developed their own Maps app in iOS 6, 
this made them a navigation company. They blew it, big time, consumers 
objected, and Apple made a course correction. That's because, quite rightly, 
consumers held Apple to the same standard that they did other maps providers.

Let me reiterate that I don't beleive a notetaker is the best choice in all 
situations. A good PC or Windows tablet will be far cheaper, and in some cases, 
far better, for many people.

 

Jonathan Mosen,

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology information, eBooks and training

http://Mosen.org


On 21/06/2015, at 4:19 pm, TaraPrakash taraprak...@gmail.com 
mailto:taraprak...@gmail.com  wrote:

All the points about the utility of Braille are well taken, Jonathan's concern 
about survival about Braille, and that those who know Braille are  more 
successful in employment field is also agreeable to me (Even if I am not sure 
the source of this statistics that Jonathan quoted in his response addressed to 
me..)

The problem for me is his assertion that Apple has decided to become a screen 
reader company etc  What I read in that comment is a suggestion that Apple 
shouldn't have ventured in to providing

Evernote

[Paul Hunt]

 Hello everybody. I'm starting to play with Evernote. I understand that it is 
 possible to nest or stack  tags. Is this feature accessible? Thanks so much.

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Evernote

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Hello everybody. Have any of you worked with Evernote? Is it accessible? How 
can I get past the screen that says do your best work in Evernote?
Thanks so much.

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Re: Evernote

[Paul Hunt]

Ok I'm in. Thanks.

 On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sighted users scroll pages. Therefore, you do the same.
 Double tap and hold on the right of the screen, then flick left until you get 
 to the next window. Keep doing that until you get to the Login/Register 
 buttons.
 
 On 6/14/2015 11:13 PM, Paul Hunt wrote:
 Hello everybody. Have any of you worked with Evernote? Is it accessible? How 
 can I get past the screen that says do your best work in Evernote?
 Thanks so much.
 
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Converting voicememos to mp3s

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. I have a voice memo that I need to convert to an mp3 file. How 
can I do this? Thanks so much.

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Re: Voice Dream Mail

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everyone. I tried voice dream mail and found that it isn't a full IMAP 
client because it doesn't  support multiple folders (mailboxes if you use the 
OSX or IOS definitions). The documentation says that the paid version supports 
multiple accounts.
Finally, there doesn't seem to be a way to compose email. Yes, accessibility is 
very important and the app must contain the features that are important to me. 
For me, Voice Dream Mail doesn't have the features I need in an email client .

 On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:06 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 First, have you written Winston Chen about your issues.
 But, also, did you read the description?
 I do not know if Juno is iMap, but this is from the description in the app 
 store:
 
 - Supported email services include Gmail, Yahoo! Mail, iCloud, AOL, 
 Outlook.com, and any IMAP-based email service.
 
 I was on the beta team, and while I got it working fine with my Gmail 
 account, it wouldn't work with my main Email because it is not iMap.
 So, I didn't test very deeply, though I could understand the potential 
 benefits for some.
 Frankly, I'm fine with just using the mail app with voiceOver.
 I may download the app again and see how it is with my Gmail account now that 
 it is out in its release version.
 
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 4, 2015, at 9:08 PM, kg7...@juno.com kg7...@juno.com wrote:
 
 Hi all, I tried it today, and was not impressed!  It wouldn't recognize
 my Juno account at all, and in fact, crashed when I tried to log in, so I
 went to my G-Mail account wich is the one I have on the phone.  I was
 able to see my mail, but when I double tapped on the message to open it,
 the system speech came up once and than, I never heard it again, and I
 couldn't do anything with any jestures.  Swiping up and down with one
 finger gave me a low pitch bong going down, and a high pitched one going
 up.  The only thing I could do was a two finger double tap, wich
 sometimes got me out of the screen I was on and back to the main screen. 
 I finally uninstalled it!
 
 Have a good one:
 John
 
 
 John Jacques
 Amateur Radio Station: KD8PC
 Whare Cat Is, Is civilization!
 Robert A Heinlein
 http://www.johnjacques.weebly.com
 
 
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RE: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. As I stated earlier, I choose to use native apps whenever 
possible. In this case, however, there is no way to create email lists from 
contact groups with the native contacts app. You can create groups from OSX or 
via Microsoft Outlook and synchronization with iTunes. However, you can't 
create email lists with your groups. This app is promising when I upgrade to an 
iPhone 6. I'll be able to do that in October.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Paul


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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Email lists from A to Z Contacts

I just learned something else about A to Z Contacts.
After you have created your group, if you go beyond the spot where you would 
send a group text or group email, there is an item called Email Lists.
If you double tap that you can have A to Z contacts create an Email list inside 
your regular contacts so that you can now send Emails to that group from within 
the native Email App.
That feature alone has me going to go and pay to remove ads plus a little more.
This is great!
Richard



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Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way when the event is several months in the future?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody. Personally, I prefer to use the native built-in apps whenever 
possible. Scheduling future events is easy to do with the native calendar. 
First, go to the date of the upcoming event then add your event. If you set up 
family sharing you can share your calendar.

 On May 30, 2015, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 
 
 Fantastical 2 is the updated version from a couple years ago at least.
 I don't remember if I had to buy the new version.
 First, why don't you go into Fantastical and double tap on settings and 
 scroll to the last item which says About Fantastical and double check which 
 version you have.
 Then you could write the developer if it isn't Fantastical 2 to ask your 
 questions since I can't remember what changed.
 The address is:
 h...@flexibits.com
 HTH,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On May 30, 2015, at 4:49 AM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I got Fantastical some while back.  Is Fantastical2 another app, which I'd 
 now have to buy separately from Fantastical?  What are the differences in 
 the two versions?
  
 Carol P
  
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 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:12 PM
 Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
 when the event is several months in the future?
 
 
 I have not used the native calendar app for a long time.
 I opened it and it proved to me why Fantastical 2 is a superior calendar.
 Try this with the native app:
 1. Get to your desired month.
 2.
 Make sure where it says list button it is not selected. If it says 
 selected, double tap and it will not say selected.
 3. Find your day and double tap.
 4. Turn the rotor to events and flick up or down.
 If that doesn't help, buy Fantastical 2 which will access all your events 
 from the native calendar, etc.
 That is my very biased and jaded opinion.
 Feel free to ignore me.
 I'm spending too much time fighting with other technology today, so probably 
 have a more negative reaction to the Calendar than it deserves.
 Later,
 Richard
 
 
 
 
 On May 29, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 Hi,  Richard.
 Tried it again. No luck.
 Yes, I’m in the month view.
 I go to July and make sure VO speaks Selected List button.
 I go to July 13, and VO speaks 2 Events.
 I double tap.
 I go to the area you suggested. VO speaks No Events. I flick back once, and 
 get the last day of July, July 31.
 Still stumped.
 Keith
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Richard Turner
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:56 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
 when the event is several months in the future?
 Keith,
 Are you in the month view when you double tap on the date with the  
 events?
 If you are, then you will find them at the bottom of the screen just under 
 the last week of the month.
 The month view is like a wall calendar with each week across the screen, so 
 the month takes about 5 lines.
 Then under the last Sunday of the month if you have the weeks starting on 
 Sunday, you will find your events for that day.
 HTH,
 
 Richard
 The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
 what they become by it.
 
 - John Ruskin
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:09 AM
 To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
 Subject: RE: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
 when the event is several months in the future?
 Thanks, Alex.
 I listened to your very well done podcast twice, and followed along. 
 Unfortunately, I couldn’t get it to work by any of the 3 methods on either 
 go around, with Selected List Button, then double tap on a date with stated 
 event, then touch screen; unselected List , double tap, touch screen, and 
 use rotor; or Selected List button, touch screen, and change to Headings.   
 The date I chose had 2 events spoken, but nothing was there. VO simply 
 announced No Events or Heading Not Found.
 I’m running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 6.
 Could there be a setting somewhere that’s not right
 I’m stumped.
 Also, I tried Fantastical. It certainly appears promising, but it seemed 
 somewhat erratic on my first try – Jumping from May 2015 to December 2014 
 with a simple flick, and somehow deleting an event from a week later than 
 the date I had selected. Could be operator error, too. I’ll keep trying, 
 but would  like to get the native iOS app working.
 Thanks, Keith
 ?
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Alex Hall
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 10:48 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: In iOS Calendar for adding a future event, what's the best way 
 when the event is several months in the future?
 The event did 

RE: Group Contacts

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Steven. What are you trying to do? Also, please share the link you’re 
looking at.

Thanks so much.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Group Contacts

 

Group Contacts!

By Qbix, Inc.

 

 

Hi friends,

 

Just found this on the web, looks like it will do exactly what I want but has 
anyone ever tried it for accessability?

 




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