Re: Kindle to braille or audio

[Dan]

  
  
Wow!!! I installed the Kendal app on my
phone and got the book.  I used my NLS EReader in braille
display mode and was able to read the book very nicely.  I never
thought it would work so well.

  
Thanks to all who suggested this method.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 7/6/2024 4:55 PM, Michael Feir
  wrote:


  The Kindle app on iOs works very well with
VoiceOver. I have well over two thousand Kindle books on my
iPhone. I can read them using my Braille display connected via
Bluetooth to my iPhone. Also, I can simply have VoiceOver read
the book continuously. I wrote instructions on this in my own
free book. The Kindle app has a menu system for navigating a
book. Once you open a book, the text totally covers the screen.
Double tapping on it will bring up the menu. Use the "close
book" option to return to the library. The "exit" option gets
you out of the menu and back into the book text. There's a table
of contents menu within the main menu which lets you jump around
in the book. Lots of othr nice features as well. The rotor works
too so you can move by character, word, and line to find out how
things are spelled. A two finger swipe downward on the book text
will start continuous reading. Hope that gets you started.
  


  Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power: Getting The Most From iOS as a
Totally Blind User
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  On Sat, Jul 6, 2024 at
    4:28 PM Dan <dbeaver...@gmail.com>
wrote:
  
  

  Hi all,
  
  
  My wife has been reading a book that she would really
like me to read.  However, it is only available on
Kindle.  What is the best way to read a book like this? 
I have seen folks discussing Kindle on Windows and IOS
but am also wondering about converting it to braille or
audio.
  
  
  What is the best and cheapest way to approach this?
  
  
  Thanks for any ideas.
  
      
  Dan Beaver
  

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Kindle to braille or audio

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


My wife has been reading a book that she would really like me to
  read.  However, it is only available on Kindle.  What is the best
  way to read a book like this?  I have seen folks discussing Kindle
  on Windows and IOS but am also wondering about converting it to
  braille or audio.


What is the best and cheapest way to approach this?


Thanks for any ideas.


Dan Beaver

  




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learning to play guitar and other stringed instruments as a blind person

[Dan]

  
  
HI all,

  
I am asking this on 2 lists since I have
seen posts about playing musical instruments on both.

  
I am wanting to learn to play guitar,
mandolin, etc.  I have no sight at all so would definitely have
to learn to play in a tactile manner.

  
How have those on these lists who play
instruments learned to do so?   I have no one near me who knows
how to teach a blind person to play so I may have to do this on
my own.

  
thanks for any help with this.

  

  
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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

[Dan]

  
  
Actually, I was looking at them a few
minutes ago and saw one that boasts the walking speed of 6.5
mph.  Some will go a good walking speed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 6/2/2024 3:58 PM, Jody ianuzzi
  wrote:


  Hi Richard,
  
  
  It is my understanding that a walking pad is to be used with
a standing desk so that you can actually exercise while working
on your computer. I have heard that they have a maximum speed of
3 1/2 miles an hour. Since they're a lot easier than a treadmill
I would think they would be much more accessible.
  

  JODY
  

  To Boldly Go   
  

  

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  stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik
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  On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard
 wrote:

  


  Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of James
  Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do
  you manage to stay on the pad?

James B 


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   On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better
  options I found were priced from $200 and up to About
  $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one
  producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A
  couple had adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know.
  Even though those that send data to a  smart phone
  tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any
  that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One
  walking pad used a remote control. I'm not sure about
  others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about
  them from Mark, so will appreciate any help about their
  accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




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  Taylor
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and
  during the trip, for the first time, I made extensive use
  of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that they work
  remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using
  the Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature
  enabled, drain my battery a little faster than expected.
   I don't know if this is exactly true because, during the
  journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen
  brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be
  able to see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a
  television series to her recorded list in Youtube TV for
  TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple TV, and
  found that the feature functions as expected, when
  VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a
  walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version
  of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around
  140 USD.  Many of them require no assembly and do not have
  a handrail.  They are so very popular that, during my
  research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly
  endless models.  As a former owner of over 12

changing notification email address in facebook

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I receive notifications from facebook in
an address I want to get rid of.  I have looked all over
facebook and can not find where to change this so I receive them
at a different address.  Can anyone tell me how to find where to
change this setting?

  
Any help here would be very much
appreciated.

  
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Re: how can I mute a topic when it doesn't apply to me

[Dan]

  
  
As usual Richard knows the answer. ;)

  
thanks, I did not know about that
difference between the lists.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 4/5/2024 10:30 AM, Richard Turner
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That is because tVIPhone does not use
  groups.io.  They use GoogleGroups which does not have that
  option.
So, your delete key is your friend.
It would be pretty expensive for the owner
  to use Groups.io because they have several times 100 members
  which is when groups.io starts charging.
 
 

   
  Richard, USA
  "It's no great honor to be blind,
  but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster.
  Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight
  fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the
  rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl
  Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
   
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Subject: how can I mute a topic when it doesn't
apply to me
  

 
On many of the mailing lists I follow there is a link
to mute topics.  I looked and can not find such a link in
the info at the end of posts like I can on other lists.
 
Moderators, is this possible?
 
Thanks.
 
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how can I mute a topic when it doesn't apply to me

[Dan]

  
  
On many of the mailing lists I follow
there is a link to mute topics.  I looked and can not find such
a link in the info at the end of posts like I can on other
lists.

  
Moderators, is this possible?

  
Thanks.

  
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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Dan]

  
  
Well, for me I was a one time payment
person.  No subscription here.

  
dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 5:14 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz
  wrote:


  
  
I don’t know if it’s been stated, but for
  those who received that message, were you one time purchasers
  or already on the subscription based model?  I got the VDR
  update too, but no such banner or at least not yet. I bought
  the app way back in 2011 or 2012 and have certainly gotten my
  money’s worth. 
There’s an alternative app called Bookplayer which is very
  accessible. 
You can always use Apple’s native book app
  for eBooks and Kindle even supports ePub files now.
 
 

  Cristóbal

 

  
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   On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:47 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  

 
I updated and when the notice came up in the app I
clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the screen
and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.
 
Not impressed.
 
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


   
  

  Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

  
  

  


  On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM, leobado1...@gmail.com
wrote:

  
  

  Where did you receive this message?
 I updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying
something about a price change, but didn't get to read
in more detail because It got closed before I could do
something.

Cheers,
Leo Bado.

I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us
enslave something in us.
Khalil Gibran.

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Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream

Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons
for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long.
It was a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with
MBraille I was one of the first to buy it for I think 5
dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, but much more
important places to put my money. On Social Security
with a guide dog and so guess it goes away. Still want
to cry after all the books from Bookshare it has read to
me.  

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Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream

[Dan]

  
  
I updated and when the notice came up in
the app I clicked on the learn more thing at the bottom of the
screen and the announcement went away and it did not take me
anywhere I could learn more, it just wen back to the list of
books I have.

  
Not impressed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 3/25/2024 4:30 PM, Peggy Kane wrote:


  
Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️
  
  
On Mar 25, 2024, at 4:27 PM,
  leobado1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

  
  
Where did you receive this message?  I
updated VDR today, and a window popped up saying something
about a price change, but didn't get to read in more detail
because It got closed before I could do something.
  
  Cheers,
  Leo Bado.
  
  I have found both freedom of loneliness and the safety
from being understood, for those who understand us enslave
something in us.
  Khalil Gibran.
  
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 On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
  Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 2:17 PM
  To: Viphone 
  Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
  
  Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59
dollars a year now. A pet peeve of mine is everything
requires a subscription. I see nothing in there reasons for
this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It was
a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I
was one of the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes
me want to cry to lose it, but much more important places to
put my money. On Social Security with a guide dog and so
guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books
from Bookshare it has read to me.  
  
  Reggie Alvarado 
  
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  Hi,
  I just updated the app, and never received a message at all
from Voice Dream.
  How is it possible for them to start charging for something?
Some of us have been using for free actually not for free that
we paid for already that is my question. Take care. 
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the books app that comes on an iphone

[Dan]

  
  
I have normally removed the books app from
my phones because I have so many other sources for books.  I
decided to look something up about IOS 17.4 and thought I could
do it in  this app in the IOS 17.4 user guide.  I reinstalled
the app and discovered that when I open the  user guide all that
VO can see is the back button.  The rest of the screen appears
blank.

  
Has anyone else noticed this?  Am I doing
something wrong or not doing something I should to use this app?

  
Thanks.

  

  
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netatmo wind gauge question

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
My wind gauge(anemometer) has stopped
reporting.  It has only been up for about 2 or 3 weeks.  The
batteries should not be the issue but I haven't gotten it back
down to check them yet.  
  

  
Has anyone else had an issue like this? 
What did it turn out to be?  Just hoping to get some ideas
before climbing back up on the roof.

  

  
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Re: Navigation App Recommendation

[Dan]

  
  
Or, you could use Navilens for this. You
can set up path finding tags.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 2/11/2024 4:32 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:


  
  
Not to mention how long does the
battery last?
 
Using Voice Vista or another app that
lets you mark a location might make more sense.
Soundscape Community is another one
based on Microsoft’s Soundscape.
They are both free.
 
 

   
   
  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us, “Be
  careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the
  other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to
  get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   
  Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version
  23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
  JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
   

 

  
From:
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 On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigation App Recommendation
  

 
I wonder if air tags would go 200
yards.
 
 

  
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On Behalf Of donmoor...@gmail.com
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigation App Recommendation
  

 
You’d think an air tag on the mailbox
might help too maybe.
 
 
 

  
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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 2:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigation App Recommendation
  

 

   


  Try Voice Vista and set up markers and
beacons.


   


  Eric 

 

   
  

  On Feb 11, 2024, at 10:31 AM,
MMMAT <mmm...@comcast.net>
wrote:

 

  
I have a friend that lives in
a very rural area.  His problem
is that it is quite a long walk from his trailer
home to the mailbox and there are no paved roads
where he is walking. The distance from his home to
the mailbox is approximately 200 yards of unpaved
roads.
  
  
 
  
  
Sometimes, he gets
disoriented and is looking for an iPhone App that he
can use to find the way to and from his home to the
mailbox and back.  What are
your recommendations based on your experiences using
a navigation app for these purposes.  Something
easy to set up and use is a priority.
  
  
 
  
  
Regards,
  
  
Mario 
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
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Re: sluggish phone

[Dan Yates]

Sometimes, if my phone gets a bit damp, my screen will get a bit sluggish. Will 
then takeoff the case and dry everything thoroughly and then put it back in as 
well as shutting down the phone and restarting. This is always taken care of 
that issue for me.
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2024, at 10:43 AM, Rhonda Hornbacher  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I found and turned off  voice over recognition.
> 
> Unfortunately, phone still is sluggish, lagging, and slow to respond to 
> gestures.
> 
> Any  thoughts?
> Thanks
> R
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The main screen recognition setting is under settings, accessibility, 
>> VoiceOver, VoiceOver Recognition.
>> 
>> I'm not sure what else to suggest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>> 
>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
>> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Rhonda Hornbacher
>> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2024 6:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: sluggish phone
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks for the info. I do regularly clear my app switcher. In any particular 
>> app I have screen recognition off.
>> 
>> Is there a global screen recognition setting somewhere? If so where would I 
>> find it?
>> 
>> I have shut down my phone multiple times both hard and soft reset.
>> 
>> I even did a software update and am now on 117.3.
>> 
>> I am kind of at my wits end here. I have been using an iPhone for years. It 
>> appears to me that something has gone on that I am unaware of.
>> 
>> Any more trouble shooting tips?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> R
>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2024, at 9:49 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> First, do you clear apps out of the app switcher regularly?
>>> I know Apple says that isn't necessary, but I have often seen and 
>>> experienced situations where if too many apps are in the app switcher, the 
>>> phone becomes very sluggish.  It is after all, a computer, and if resources 
>>> get low, it slows down.
>>> 
>>> If the two finger swipe isn't working, make sure that the Screen 
>>> Recognition is not on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
>>> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get 
>>> it.”
>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>> 
>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS
>>> version 2024.2310.70.400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> regs2...@rogers.com
>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 6:13 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: sluggish phone
>>> 
>>> Agreed.  In addition, there are times that my phone just appears to stick 
>>> on one screen for at least a minute before I have to turn off voice over 
>>> and back on to get it moving again.
>>> Current IOS with SE third edition phone.
>>> 
>>> Reg
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Rhonda Hornbacher
>>> Sent: January 26, 2024 8:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: sluggish phone
>>> 
>>> Since updating my iPhone 14 to IOS 172.1 I am having issues with my phone..
>>> 
>>> I am unable to read all using two finger swipe down. The scrub does not 
>>> always respond and I have to find the back button.
>>> 
>>> Overall my phone seems to be lagging.
>>> 
>>> Any advice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> R
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Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Dan]

  
  
Yep, I installed it and have seen nothing new either.  I have had
  no problems with it at all.



Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 1/24/2024 5:51 PM, M. Taylor wrote:


  Hello All,

I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.

Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? Or
any issues that we should know?

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Re: Rain Gauge

[Dan]

  
  
Netatmo makes a base unit and then there
are external devices that can be placed outside.  the external
devices include rain gauge, anemometer(for wind direction and
strength) and temp and humidity.  I have the base with the
temp/humidity unit and have the rain gauge and anemometer coming
in the mail.

  
They also have extra units that can be
placed in the home for monitoring things like carbon monoxide,
temperature and other things.  I do not have these additional
units.
  

  
Dan Beaver 
  
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On 1/16/2024 3:29 PM, David Grossoehme
  wrote:


  Is this a Rain gage only or can you get other answers for wind
direction and wind speed?
  Dave
  
  
  On 1/16/2024 3:21 PM, Sieghard
Weitzel wrote:
  
  


  Hello Dan,
   
  Thanks for that information, I will
  definitely check it out. Netatmo works OK for checking
  current stuff, but I agree that it is not the greatest app
  and they haven’t done anything with it for years at least
  not as far as I can tell. They push an update from time to
  time, but the UI is same old.
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 5:04 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Rain Gauge

  
   
  Actually, I found an app for Iphones etc that does
  show the history of weather info gathered by the Netatmo
  devices.  It is called weather status.  I find that I like
  it much more than the Netatmo app.
   
  Dan Beaver
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On 1/15/2024 11:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:
  
  

  If you get the Netatmo weather
station and buy the bundle with rain gauge then yes, you
can see how much it is raining (mm per hour) and how
much it rained in total.
  The only thing which is not
accessible is the history, e.g. if you want to see how
much it rained and you can’t or forget to check just
before midnight it will reset to 0 and while I believe
the historical information is available in some sort of
graph, it is not accessible.
   
   
  

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  Of Steve Cook
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Rain Gauge

  
   
  Hi All, 
   
  Does anyone know of a accessible Rain
Gauge that the app works with Voice Over? Running the
current IOS on an iPhone 14. 
   
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Re: Rain Gauge

[Dan]

  
  
Actually, I found an app for Iphones etc
that does show the history of weather info gathered by the
Netatmo devices.  It is called weather status.  I find that I
like it much more than the Netatmo app.

  
Dan Beaver
  
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On 1/15/2024 11:15 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:


  
  
If you get the Netatmo weather station and
  buy the bundle with rain gauge then yes, you can see how much
  it is raining (mm per hour) and how much it rained in total.
The only thing which is not accessible is
  the history, e.g. if you want to see how much it rained and
  you can’t or forget to check just before midnight it will
  reset to 0 and while I believe the historical information is
  available in some sort of graph, it is not accessible.
 
 

  
From:
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On Behalf Of Steve Cook
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Rain Gauge
  

 
Hi All, 
 
Does anyone know of a accessible Rain Gauge
  that the app works with Voice Over? Running the current IOS on
  an iPhone 14.

 
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Re: Siri and music recognition

[Dan Yates]

I agree, think it must be a server issue. I’m using the 12 mini and have the 
latest update and I’m getting the same message. I expect, however, that when I 
try this tomorrow, it will work. It just gets Squirrley sometimes.
Danney
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> On Jan 5, 2024, at 5:42 PM, Max  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> interesting that it worked perfectly with earlier versions of IOS!
> Max.
> 
>> On 6 Jan 2024, at 09:04, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Max,
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I think hearing aids have something to do with it. I also 
>> have hearing aids connected to my phone. This afternoon, the phone wasn't 
>> playing through the aids for some reason, and music recognition worked. I 
>> reconnected the aids, and music recognition still worked. However, it didn't 
>> a work an hour later with the hearing aids still connected. I turned them 
>> off, and it worked. It also worked a few minutes after I turned them back 
>> on. I waited a few more minutes and tried again, and it didn't work. So it 
>> seems that if the aids are connected for more than a few minutes, music 
>> recognition stops working.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 5, 2024, at 3:55 PM, Max  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tom,
>>> I have the same problem also.  Shazam won’t work either.  I think it is 
>>> having my hearing aids connected to the phone at the same time.
>>> Max.
>>> 
 On 5 Jan 2024, at 12:39, Tom Lange  wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is 
 being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now 
 it says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty 
 reliably. When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS 
 answer about it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct 
 answer, which is another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something 
 on the web, just give me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated 
 with Siri's apparent stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal 
 with Siri's inability to recognize music that's being played and picked up 
 with the phone's microphone? Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do 
 about it? Thanks,
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Re: troubles with Echo Dot

[Dan]

  
  
You are correct, it does work fine except
when I ask it to play  this one specific station.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/30/2023 2:00 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
  wrote:


  
  
Since it is responding to requests and
  playing stuff it must be connected to Wi-fi; this seems to be
  more of an  issue that he can’t get it to play what he wants.
 

  
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
  On Behalf Of Richard
  Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2023 9:58 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: troubles with Echo Dot
  

 
If your Dot is older, it may not be pairing
  well with your Wi-Fi.


  Ask the device if it is connected
to the network and let it run through its own test. That’s
worth trying; it might work.
  Find the device name and use that
in your instruction. For example, if the device is named
Dan’s Second Dot, speak “Dot, play "Exercise for Spirit
Radio" on Dan’s Second Dot. By all rights, this shouldn’t be
necessary, but I have had similar instructions work.
  Check your Alexa app and try to
connect again. Do this with fear and trembling. The app is 
buggy and it doesn’t always work well. Worse, it’s not fully
accessible with VoiceOver.
  Call the Amazon Disability
Support Number at 888-283-1678. Be patient. Unfortunately,
Amazon tech support is poor. In my experience their staff
had great difficulty in understanding that VoiceOver won’t
present the screens on the Amazon Alexa app as  they see
them. Amazon support is our only option for Alexa, Echo, Dot
support.
  Expect for this all to take time.
This may be very tricky.
  Take deep breaths. Smile!

 
Hope this helps.
 
Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net
 
 
 
 
 

  
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      On Behalf Of Dan
  Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 3:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: troubles with Echo Dot
  

 
Well, it starts playing either "Exercise the spirit" or
"come holy spirit radio". Not what I am trying for. :)
     
Dan Beaver
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

  On 12/29/2023 3:52 PM, Richard Turner
wrote:


  What happens if you say, play exercise.
  

   


  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us, “Be careful
when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other
side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   


   

  
  
 

      On Dec 29, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Dan

wrote:

  
  

   
  I hope this is ok on this list.
   
  I have an Echo and an Echo Dot.  I have been trying to
figure out how to get Alexa to play a specific channel
on Pandora.  I have Pandora enabled on both devices so
that is working fine.   However, when I ask Alexa to
play this specific channel it comes up with one of 2
other channels and I can't get it to play the one I
want.
   
  The channel I want is called "Exercise for Spirit
Radio".  It starts playing others that have the word
spirit in them instead.
   
  I can get the devices to play this channel if I play it
first through Alexa on my phone and then say Alexa play
music.  But if I have it play anything else it then goes
back to playing whatever I played last.
   
  Does anyone know how to get Alexa to recognize this
channel and play it on demand?
   
  Thanks for any help with this.
   
       
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Re: troubles with Echo Dot

[Dan]

  
  
Well, it starts playing either "Exercise
the spirit" or "come holy spirit radio". Not what I am trying
for. :)

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/29/2023 3:52 PM, Richard Turner
  wrote:

What
  happens if you say, play exercise.
  



  Richard, USA
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  careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the
  other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to
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On Dec 29, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Dan
   wrote:
  

  
  

  I hope this is ok on this list.
  
  
  I have an Echo and an Echo Dot.  I have been trying to
figure out how to get Alexa to play a specific channel on
Pandora.  I have Pandora enabled on both devices so that is
working fine.   However, when I ask Alexa to play this
specific channel it comes up with one of 2 other channels
and I can't get it to play the one I want.
  
  
  The channel I want is called "Exercise for Spirit Radio". 
It starts playing others that have the word spirit in them
instead.
  
  
  I can get the devices to play this channel if I play it
first through Alexa on my phone and then say Alexa play
music.  But if I have it play anything else it then goes
back to playing whatever I played last.
  
  
  Does anyone know how to get Alexa to recognize this channel
and play it on demand?
  
  
  Thanks for any help with this.
  
  
      
  
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troubles with Echo Dot

[Dan]

  
  
I hope this is ok on this list.

  
I have an Echo and an Echo Dot.  I have
been trying to figure out how to get Alexa to play a specific
channel on Pandora.  I have Pandora enabled on both devices so
that is working fine.   However, when I ask Alexa to play this
specific channel it comes up with one of 2 other channels and I
can't get it to play the one I want.

  
The channel I want is called "Exercise for
Spirit Radio".  It starts playing others that have the word
spirit in them instead.

  
I can get the devices to play this channel
if I play it first through Alexa on my phone and then say Alexa
play music.  But if I have it play anything else it then goes
back to playing whatever I played last.

  
Does anyone know how to get Alexa to
recognize this channel and play it on demand?

  
Thanks for any help with this.

  

  
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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Dan]

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
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I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



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On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
  image downwards:


At the top, there's a framed

Re: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2

[Dan]

  
  
On my Apple Watch SE I have never been
able to use taptic time using 1 finger double taps.  I have
always had to use the 3 and 4 taps.

  
I have also turned VO off and tried the 2
finger tap and hold and I have never gotten that to work
either.  Poor sighted folks. :)

  
Dan Beaver 

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/16/2023 2:29 AM, Christopher
  Chaltain wrote:


  
  
Interesting. I’m not sure anyone
other than myself has said they use three and four taps for
haptic time. This works for me even when I don’t have sleep
mode on. Maybe there’s another setting I have set somewhere
that explains this. I do have sleep when wrist down is set
to on, so maybe that explains it. My watch has also worked
this way through multiple
  
watchOS updates. I’ll be interested
to hear about the response you get from Apple. I have
something that works pretty reliably for me.
 

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Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Haptic time on Apple Watch Ultra 2
  

 
Hi,
 
According to Apple, Voiceover users can use
  the haptic time feature by tapping the screen of the apple
  Watch twice with one finger to get the time in hours and
  minutes and tap three times if you know the hour and only want
  minutes indicated.
The prerequesit is that the Apple Watch
  screen is off/asleep.
 
In a recent discussion it seems many people
  say for them this works only reliably if you tap the screen 3
  times for hours and minutes and 4 times for minutes.
 
I found with my Apple Watch series 5 40mm
  that haptic time rarely worked.
I now have an Apple Watch Ultra 2 and I
  discovered the following which probably applies also to my
  series 5, but I haven’t checked it yet although I still have
  the series 5 because I’m a bit of a prograstinater when it
  comes to selling stuff.
Here is what I discovered:
 
I have a daily “sleep” focus set which
  starts at 10:30 PM and it stops at 7 AM.
I found that if it is past 10:30 PM, e.g.
  the sleep focus is active, a 1-finger double tap does nothing
  except it wakes up the display, but a 3-finger tap starts
  hours and minutes in haptic time and a quadruple tap does just
  the minutes.
However, during the day, e.g. after 7 AM
  and before 10:30 PM when the sleep focus is not active, the
  double tap Apple says one should use works just fine and the
  triple tap gives me just minutes even though when the sleep
  focus is active it will give me hours and minutes.
 
I just wrote Apple Accessibility a message
  regarding this because I assume this is a bug, but not sure
  until they reply.
 
What I don’t understand is that why we
  can’t use the regular gesture for haptic time. Yes, haptic
  time is not actually an accessibility feature, it is available
  to all Apple Watch users in Settings > Clock as long as you
  said “Speak Time” to “Control with silent mode” instead of
  “Always”.
According to the article, if you don’t use
  Voiceover you simply rest 2 fingers on the screen for a moment
  to get haptic time.
 
Tell time with haptic feedback on
Apple Watch - Apple Support
 
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
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Re: Haptic time

[Dan]

  
  
No, you should not have to turn speech
off, that is for silent use.  Are you tapping the screen with
the tips of your fingers?  I find that if I use the pads of my
fingers it doesn't work nearly as well.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/13/2023 11:13 AM, 'Linda C.
  Knight' via VIPhone wrote:


  
  
 
 
I have the Apple watch se and I am having
  such a hard time using the haptic time and I am deafblind and
  use my watch for an alarm also.
 
However, when I double tap for the time it
  take forever to even get the time.
 
So do I actually turn off speech for this
  wo work properly.
 
Thanks.
 
Linda
 

  
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids
  silent.  I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the
  sound volume down to near zero.  I also turn speech off so
  that v doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my wife
  doesn't hear it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of
  other settings where I want no sound of any kind from my
  watch.
 
Dan Beaver
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  On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:


  Hello list 

I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic
time is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to
get the time during the night without waking my wife. Also,
what is magic tap under the hand gesture settings? 

Regards 

Fanus 

  

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Re: Haptic time

[Dan]

  
  
Actually, I use my Apple watch during the night and it ids
  silent.  I found that I had to use the rotor and turn the sound
  volume down to near zero.  I also turn speech off so that v
  doesn't speak.  I can now use haptic time and my wife doesn't hear
  it at all.  I use it this way in a couple of other settings where
  I want no sound of any kind from my watch.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/13/2023 3:47 AM, Fanus wrote:

Hello
  list
  
  
  I got my S9 watch on Monday. For me it is a pity that Haptic time
  is part of VoiceOver because it would have been nice to get the
  time during the night without waking my wife. Also, what is magic
  tap under the hand gesture settings?
  
  
  Regards
  
  
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can't change barometric setting on netatmo unit

[Dan]

  
  
I purchased a Netatmo weather station. It
is awesome.  
  

  
I am having a problem though.  I thought I
had set the barometric readings to inches but they are showing
up in millibars.  I have tried to figure out where to change
this but can't seem to do so.  I have looked all over the help
center in the Netatmo app and have done many google searches and
have read many descriptions of setting up the unit and still I
can't figure this one out.

  
Can anyone out there using this device
tell me how to change the barometric setting?

  
Thanks for any help with this.

  

  
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netasmo weather stations

[Dan]

  
  
HI all,

  
I am needing to obtain a weather station
that I can track the outdoor conditions with.  I remember quite
a lot of discussion about the netasmo units.  For those who
still use them do you still consider them good and are they
still as accessible as they used to be?

  
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Re: AI in Be my Eyes

[Dan Yates]

On my app, I have a button that says be my eyes AI pending and expect it will eventually get pushed down.DanSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 28, 2023, at 1:34 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







You may not yet have it as this feature is now just rolling out to everybody.
But, if you do then check along the bottom in the Be My Eyes app, there should be 5 tabs if you already have it or you also may have it, but it may not yet be available.
Here is what they say from left to right:
 
Get Support, Be My AI, Community, Learn, Settings
 


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I have Be my Eyes on my iPhone 13 and I can’t see anything about AI. How do I access AI in the app Be my Eyes?

 
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Re: an oddity with messaging after 17.0.1 updateIt turns out

[Dan]

  
  
Ok, I found the problem.


It turns out that the update turned on a setting that I haven't
  seen before.


If you go into accessibility settings and then go down to almost
  the bottom of the screen you will find a button called Siri.  If
  you click on that and then go down to almost the bottom of the
  screen again you'll find a button called "announce notifications
  on speaker".  It is a switch button.  Mine was on.  I turned it
  off and now my phone behaves as I prefer again.  It wakes the
  phone and VO reads the incoming message to me.

 
    
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 9/25/2023 9:11 AM, Dan wrote:


  This actually started with 17.0.
  
  
  I am seeing a situation where most messages that come in wake
the phone and show the home screen with the message near the
bottom of the screen.  This is normal behavior for my phone. 
But since 17.0 some messages are coming in with a different
message sound than I have set for messages and it doesn't wake
the phone and Siri reads the message anyway.  This is starting
to bug me.  I have looked all over the settings and can't find
anything that would cause this behavior and can't find a way to
make it behave the way it used to.
  
  
  Has anyone else seen this and if so does anyone know how to
stop it?
  
  
  I am using an Iphone SE2020.
  
  
  
  
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an oddity with messaging after 17.0.1 update

[Dan]

  
  
This actually started with 17.0.

  
I am seeing a situation where most
messages that come in wake the phone and show the home screen
with the message near the bottom of the screen.  This is normal
behavior for my phone.  But since 17.0 some messages are coming
in with a different message sound than I have set for messages
and it doesn't wake the phone and Siri reads the message
anyway.  This is starting to bug me.  I have looked all over the
settings and can't find anything that would cause this behavior
and can't find a way to make it behave the way it used to.

  
Has anyone else seen this and if so does
anyone know how to stop it?

  
I am using an Iphone SE2020.

  

  
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Re: New Ring Tones

[Dan Yates]

I am very interested in this, as well! I’ve often wondered why the existing 
ringtones and alerts have not been modified overtime.
Dan



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> On Sep 13, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Jen .  wrote:
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> Hi,
> Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be 
> available in iOS 17.
> Jen
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Re: ICloud terms of Service?

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I would definitely not click on anything, and I would delete itDanSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 12, 2023, at 10:51 AM, Shirley Tracy  wrote:I received the same. But I didn’t click on anything. I believe it usually says that using the product indicates compliance with terms of service. I didn’t read it all, but I didn’t plan on responding or clicking any links, just in case. Shirley   Sent from Mail for Windows From: Debbie DowneySent: Monday, September 11, 2023 8:22 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: ICloud terms of Service? Hello, A friend just received a notification on his iPhone about accepting new terms of service for iCloud. Has anyone else received this? Not sure if it’s a scam or not? Thank you! Debbie -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/02c201d9e50f%2426751de0%24735f59a0%24%40tampabay.rr.com. 



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Re: Radiant DJ

[Dan Yates]

Thanks, Robert! I downloaded this and have really been enjoying it!DanSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 16, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:






First, there was FM, then came digital and now, 
meet Radiant! Radiant is the hottest digital radio service with your digital 
host, Rad! Rad knows what music you like (Thanks to his deep integration with 
Apple Music) and plays the soundtrack to your day! Monday at 8 am on your way to 
work? Rad's got a song for that! Need help to fall asleep? Let Rad soothe your 
weary soul. Trying to get over the midday, post-lunch slump. Rad's got you 
covered! But wait there's more! Rad's not just a DJ, he's a news anchor, 
weatherman, traffic reporter and music expert. Throughout the day you'll learn 
about the backstories of artists, whether today is a shorts and t-shirt or 
umbrella kinda day, how much traffic you can expect on your commute and hear the 
local news stories as they happen so you never miss a beat. Oh and did we 
mention Rad is interactive? You can tell him if you're really loving what is 
playing and he'll dig out a few similar ones from the pile to play next, if 
something not really your speed or you just inexplicably hate an artist you can 
let him know about that too and he'll change his selections on the fly. How's 
all that sound? Sound good? Alrighty then! Let's get started!  All you'll 
need is an Apple Music subscription and you're ready to tune in to the future of 
radio!https://apps.apple.com/us/app/radiant-the-future-of-radio/id1476163061
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Fwd: Tracking distance walked

[Dan]

  
  
Ok, each time I try to reply to a posting
it sends the message directly to the original poster not the
list.  I am not sure why this is happening.  Please see my
response to Jim below.


Dan Beaver


  
   Forwarded Message 
  

  
Subject:

Re: Tracking distance walked
  
  
Date: 
Sat, 12 Aug 2023 15:48:08 -0400
  
  
From: 
Dan 
  
  
To: 
portillo@gmail.com
  

  
  
  
  
  I may be poking my nose in with bad info
  but...
  
  
  Do you have location services turned
  on?  I think that distance tracking requires GPS doesn't it? 
  Steps do not necessarily but I have never seen a case where my
  Iphone SE 2020 has failed to track my steps.
  
  
  Good luck.
  
  
  Dan Beaver
  
  Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
  On 8/12/2023 3:43 PM, portillo@gmail.com
wrote:
  
  


  Interesting. I tried your suggestion, and
it still didn’t work. It’s as though I need my watch on for
the health app to work on both my watch and my phone. 
  Strange. I walked a great deal yesterday,
and my phone did not record one step of it. Yet, when I had
my watch on, and I looked at the health app via my phone, it
recorded the steps I took the day before.
  Go figure.
   
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 7:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tracking distance walked

  
   
  Try putting your phone in your
  front pocket so it moves with each step and see if that
  works.
   
   
  
 
 
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress
  for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from
  The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
  
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tracking distance walked

  
   
  On a holster on my hip, or sometimes in
my pocket.
  I was bummed because there was a weekend
where I had gone on vacation somewhere, and my apple watch
wasn’t working for some reason, but my phone was. I had
walked about a million steps during those couple days, but
they never registered.
  
   
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
<viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 7:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tracking distance walked

  
   
  Where do you carry your phone?
   
   
  
 
 
Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress
  for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from
  The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com
  
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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On Behalf Of Jim Portillo
Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2023 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tracking distance walked

  
   
  You know what is interesting. I use the
health app, but it only works for me when I’m wearing my
watch. If I don’t wear it, my iPhone won’t pick up my steps.
I’m not sure why.
  I look at my results on my phone, so I
know that the phone is talking to the watch.
  I wonder how I can fix this.
  Jim
   
   
  

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com
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On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 8:40 AM
To: 

IOS 17, is it worth it?

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


I read an article by Kim Komando about the
public beta being out now.  She obviously didn't talk about any
accessibility aspects of 17.  I am just wondering if 17 is worth
the upgrade or not for VO users.  I haven't used betas in IOS
before but was kind of toying with the idea this go round.

  
Have any of you tried it yet?  Is there
anything in 17 worth our serious consideration?

  
Thanks.
 

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copying docs scanned in VDR to windows laptop

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


I have a doc that I scanned using VDR. 
Now I want to copy it to my laptop.  I did so using Icloud but
when I open it on my laptop it says it is a malformed PDF.


How can I get the OCRed text of the doc
over there?


I did read through the VDR help and can find nothing about doing
  this.



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Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Dan Yates]

OK, I’m using the US English Alex voice exclusively now and so far I have not 
heard the screen curtain  alert

Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 6, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Switch your voiceover voice from a siri voice to a voiceover voice & it will 
> stop the frequent screen curtain message. This suggestion comes from Apple & 
> worked for me.
> 
> DonnaSounds serious, have never done it, what would this affect besides 
> possibly this issue.
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 12:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> Have you tried doing a hard reboot?
>> Mr. Ed
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Barbara Stahl
>> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2023 3:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: My phone announcing Screen curtain on
>> 
>> My iphone 8 does this all the time, and yes, its rather annoying.  I think 
>> that the particular app is refreshing itself or something.  The screen 
>> actually lights up for a second and then the screen curten returns again and 
>> the focus is usually moved to the top of the page.  This often happens for 
>> me on webpages and photos, but it also happens in other apps too.  I have no 
>> idea how to make it stop, its just something that I put up with.  You could 
>> always try restarting your phone and or emptying the app switcher if it 
>> starts happening too often.  
>> 
>>>> On Jun 5, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my 
>>> screen curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of 
>>> reading something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I 
>>> have typically kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, 
>>> and to add some privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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My phone announcing Screen curtain on

[Dan Yates]

For some reason, my phone has begun spontaneously, announcing that my screen 
curtain is on. This can be real irritating when I’m in the middle of reading 
something and I have to start over swipe in to resume reading. I have typically 
kept my screen curtain on for ages to conserve battery life, and to add some 
privacy. Does anyone else know why this is occurring? 
Dan



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Re: voice changed over night

[Dan]

  
  
Ok, never mind.  I just went in to pick
another voice because the one I had it set to was driving me
crazy.  I had looked through the list of voices 3 times before
and Siri was not there. I was moving through the list again to
find a better voice and Siri was there now.  I got it back to
the voice I prefer.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 5/9/2023 8:49 AM, Dan wrote:


  Hi all,
  
  
  I am running IOS 16.4.1A.  I have an Iphone SE 2020. I was
using the Siri voices for VO speech.  However, when my alarm
went off this morning and I got ,up I found that the voice had
changed to Samantha non-enhanced.  I was very confused at this
since I hadn't changed anything to do with my speech.  I went
into Accessibility settings to change the voice back to Siri and
found that Siri voices are no longer an option.  they do not
even show up in the list of voices.  I had to choose another
voice and I do not like very many of the choices at all.
  
  
  Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix for this?  Can I get
the Siri voices back?
  
  
  Thanks for any help.
  
  
  
  
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voice changed over night

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


I am running IOS 16.4.1A.  I have an
Iphone SE 2020. I was using the Siri voices for VO speech. 
However, when my alarm went off this morning and I got ,up I
found that the voice had changed to Samantha non-enhanced.  I
was very confused at this since I hadn't changed anything to do
with my speech.  I went into Accessibility settings to change
the voice back to Siri and found that Siri voices are no longer
an option.  they do not even show up in the list of voices.  I
had to choose another voice and I do not like very many of the
choices at all.


Has anyone else seen this?  Is there a fix
for this?  Can I get the Siri voices back?


Thanks for any help.




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Re: Number of characters required for IPhone password

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Thanks, I will check that out to see if there is a four digit option and yes, was referring to the pass code.DanSent from my iPhoneOn May 2, 2023, at 10:40 AM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
  

  
  
On an SE2022, you can get to the 4-digit choice on the screen
  after the 6-digit option. 

On 5/2/2023 3:35 PM, Richard Turner
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If you are talking about the digits you
enter when you unlock the phone, that is the "passcode" not
the "Password."
I believe they have forced most people to
use 6 digits for the Passcode because it is far more secure.
But, as with all things Apple, if you
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Hi everyone,
I have an IPhone 12 mini and have a four
  digit password that I use.  When recently looking at changing
  it, I was faced with putting in six characters.  Does this
  mean that I would have to have a six character password if I
  were to change it?
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smart bread makers or else physically accessible

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Hi all,


Do any of you use or are you aware of any
bread makers that are accessible using bluetooth/wifi?  If so,
what brands/models?


Also, other than smart machines do any of
you use bread makers that are physically accessible using
buttons/knobs/dials etc?


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Re: Predictive texting with Siri is a pain!

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> On Apr 19, 2023, at 5:48 PM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Pretty much everything about siri these days is a pain.
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> I prefer to dictate my text messages. Sometimes I do this with Siri without 
> being in the Messages app and other times I will do it from within the 
> Messages app by hitting the dictate button. For some reason it seems that 
> Siri wants to assist me by putting in words or suggested words that I did not 
> choose. So, now I’m having to spend all kinds of time going back through the 
> dang messages and rewriting things. How do I turn this off?
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Predictive texting with Siri is a pain!

[Dan Yates]

I prefer to dictate my text messages. Sometimes I do this with Siri without 
being in the Messages app and other times I will do it from within the Messages 
app by hitting the dictate button. For some reason it seems that Siri wants to 
assist me by putting in words or suggested words that I did not choose. So, now 
I’m having to spend all kinds of time going back through the dang messages and 
rewriting things. How do I turn this off?
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a disappointment with apple Watch 9.4

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I have an apple watch SE.  I just
installed 9.4 and have noticed something that is rather
disappointing.


I am seeing a significant delay in VO
responding.  I thought perhaps it was due to the speaking rate
but I turned it up and the delay is still there.  I also
rebooted the watch and no change.


Has anyone else noticed this behavior?


I will be contacting Accessibility about
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Reacquainting myself with Apple keyboard

[Dan Yates]

Hi everyone, I have pulled out my Apple keyboard and paired it with my iPhone 
12 mini with no problem. Now I need to reacquaint myself with all the keys, 
etc. etc. what’s the best way to do this? Is there a keyboard command anybody 
can remind me of two set my keyboard to training mode, so I can learn where the 
keys are.
Thanks for any help
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counting steps on apple watch SE

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Hi all,


I have one of these but am having trouble
figuring out how to get it to count my steps during the day.  Is
this possible?  If so where can I find info on how to set this
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Re: Accessible crossword puzzle apps

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Is there a charge for accessing crossword puzzles or Wordle on New York Times app?DanSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 18, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hello Candy,I have been playing Wordle and the Spelling Bee from within the NYTimes app, and yes, they are accessible. I haven’t tried playing them from the crossword app.Best,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 12:53 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:Please excuse me if I am misunderstanding this thread. I downloaded the New York Times Wordell and spelling bee app. I am on able to make it work at all. Am I correct? In understanding that this particular app is accessible? If so, could someone please tell me how to use it?Anna, I understood that you were unable to use the Crossword app, but I am thinking that one is different. I’ve played Wordle every day, but that is only the one word that is with the New York Times. Is this app accessible? Thanks for any help. CandySent from my iPhone 13 pro On Feb 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi Wayne,Yes, the keyboard is really oddly spaced. Too bad they didn’t use the one they use for Wordle. So whoever said the app was accessible, please tell us how you do it.Cheers,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 10:44 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:You made it further than me. While I could see the clue and after a time could enter the missing letters, I found the keyboard to be challenging at best. I was expecting a normally sized keyboard, but found that there were noticable gaps between each letter. This made using explore by touch to find the right letter to be quite taxing. I eventually figured out that if I found the right row, I could flick between the letters and double tap the one I wanted. I have since deleted the NY Times Crosswords app for these issues. I'm glad that others found the app to be accessible, but it wasn't for me. Respectfully, Wayne MerrittSent from my iPhone 13 ProCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Feb 18, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi everyone,I tried to play the mini crossword in the New York Time Crosswords app, but I couldn’t quite make it work. When it opens, the Across clues are listed in a very accessible way, saying how many letters the word has and whether any letters are filled in. If I touch one (not double-tap but just touch), the letters I enter go into that clue. If I double-tap anywhere, a screen displaying the grid opens, and if I touch a square, I’m told which square it is and whether it’s blank or what letter it contains. Doing a scrub gesture returns me to the list of Across clues. So far, so good.However, I can’t find a way to hear the Down clues with the same information. If I touch an Across clue and flick down, there’s a Reverse Direction option, but whether I simply touch that option or double-tap it, the clues don’t switch to the Down clues. The clue at the bottom of the screen, which is the one being edited does change to a Down clue, but it doesn’t tell you how many letters are in the word or whether anything is filled in. If I choose the option to bring up the list of clues, the clues do say if a letter is filled in, but not how many letters total there are or where the filled-in letter is. So it seems to be maddeningly close to accessible, but not quite. Am I missing something?Thanks,AnnaOn Feb 18, 2023, at 1:43 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:This one is free with in app purchases.The New York Times CrosswordOfficial Wordle & Spelling BeeDonnaI found it in the US App Store. One thing to note is the Crosswords app has a cost of $9.99 and includes several in-app purchases for more puzzles. Respectfully, Wayne MerrittSent from my iPhone 13 ProCheck out my GoodReads page:http://goodreads.com/waynesbooksOn Feb 17, 2023, at 5:56 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:It’s no longer in the App Store Sent from my iPhoneOn 17 Feb 2023, at 19:36, Judy Holloway  wrote:Hi. There used to be a crossword puzzle app in the app store called "FOUR Down," which had some free crossword puzzles, and then you could get some more for a small charge. I loved this app and worked all the puzzles. It was aessible, and I worked the puzzles without a Braille display. I don't know if it's still available now, but this was an excellent app. Also, there is a crossword puzzle in the Blindfold Games set of apps, which includes about 40 or 50 games of all types made especially for blind people.I hope this helps.Thanks.Judy HollowayOn Feb 17, 2023 10:45 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:I’ve recently read an article about the benefits of crossword puzzles, related to dementia, etc. and thought I would begin to look for some of these. Are there any that are blind friendly that you all know of that I could access on my phone? Dan Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rathe

Accessible crossword puzzle apps

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I’ve recently read an article about the benefits of crossword puzzles, related 
to dementia, etc. and thought I would begin to look for some of these. Are 
there any that are blind friendly that you all know of that I could access on 
my phone?
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Re: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily News

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I listened to the preview and it is scary good!! Absolutely amazing, we’ve come a long way since Deck talk, haven’t we? Lol.DanSent from my iPhoneOn Jan 14, 2023, at 8:17 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:I totally agree with you. There is nothing like a human voice reading a book. EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jan 14, 2023, at 10:57 AM, Barbara Stahl  wrote:I listened to the preview link in the article and the narration is surprisingly good.  But I completely agree, nothing could ever be better than human narration for me.  And its totally wrong for companies to try to replace people with robots just for profet.  Its disgusting.  On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:I completely agree.Dennis LongSent from my iPhone SE 3On Jan 14, 2023, at 1:06 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:While I certainly want any AI rendered audiobooks to be of the highest quality, this feels like the next phase of cost reduction by eliminating human voice actors. I can't ever imagine an AI narrated book to be of the same quality as a human narrated one and hope we'll continue to have a good supply of human narrated audio for many years to come.Alan Lemly-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 8:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Apple Quietly Launches a Selection of Audiobooks Voiced by an AI Robot, Mac Daily NewsHello Everyone,I was Fascinated by this article so quickly went to Apple Books and explored the selection.I must say, I am amazed at the quality of the AI Rendering of the text.While there are several free AI voiced audio books from which to choose, I purchased a title called "WildWood" by Elinor Florence.I will be posting a second article on this in a little while.Enjoy,MarkApple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot MacDailyNews - Friday, January 6, 2023 at 2:36 PM Apple quietly launches a selection of audiobooks voiced by an AI robot Apple has quietly launched a catalog of books narrated by an AI robot using artificial intelligence and voice synthesis technologies it developed.By Leyland Cecco, for The Guardian:The popularity of the audiobook market has exploded in recent years, with technology companies scrambling to gain a foothold. Sales last year jumped 25%, bringing in more than $1.5bn. Industry insiders believe the global market could be worth more than $35bn by 2030.On the company's Books app, searching for "AI narration" reveals the catalogue of works included in the scheme, which are described as being "narrated by digital voice based on a human narrator".Apple's development of AI to narrate books could represent a significant shift in how major technology companies see the future of audiobooks.Publishers, authors and literary agents who spoke to the Guardian said the strategy, if successful, could have significant implications for the market.MacDailyNews Take: At first listen, it doesn't sound awful. A preview can be heard via Apple Books here.Original Article at:https://macdailynews.com/2023/01/06/apple-quietly-launches-a-selection-of-audiobooks-voiced-by-an-ai-robot/--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003201d926f6%24f71d1970%24e5574c50%24%40ucla.edu.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/051801d927de%2459ba39e0%240d2eada0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is 

accessible bluetooth eliptical equipment

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


I normally walk our road for exercise. 
However, far too many homes have been built over the past few
years and people are driving much too fast on our road for it to
be safe any longer.  I have started using an old elliptical we
have had for several years.  It has no bluetooth interface and
is starting to have some other issues mechanically.

  
Do any of you know of any elliptical
equipment that has accessible bluetooth apps?  My wife would
like us to get something like this so I can keep track of my
accomplishments independently.

  
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Re: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?

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Hey Mark and others, I have Apple AirPods Pro, as well as the apple wired 
EarPods. The only time I use my apple wired EarPods is when I go to bed, 
listening to audiobooks. I just keep one in one ear, and my phone is sitting on 
the nightstand, which is right beside the bed. Fortunately, I have not had the 
issues you described With getting tangled up in the cords. I like the loose fit 
of the wired AirPod, I don’t think I would like the tight fit of the AirPod 
when I’m trying to drift off to sleep. 
Dan


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> On Jan 8, 2023, at 5:39 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
> 
> I have gone whierless in the sence that I have apple air pods and the reason 
> why I got them was onishinaly to use MS. Soundskape but now that they are 
> making soundscape oapin scores I do use them to listen to music but not while 
> I am out and about since I need my ears free to listen for traffic etc. from 
> Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: January 8, 2023 1:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?
> 
> I have to agree with Sieghard. I have the best success with wired Apple 
> Earpods and consider them the best value of any earbuds I've consistently 
> used. I have some second generation wireless Apple Airpods and while they're 
> ok for listening to content, they mess up whenever I receive a phone call. 
> And I still use my iPhone 13 Mini as a phone although it seems the phone app 
> performs inconsistently when using Voiceover. I don't know if the issue is 
> the microphone in the Airpods but I get the most consistent performance with 
> the wired Apple Earpods. 
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Have you Gone Wireless, Yet?
> 
> I'd take a set of Airpods maybe if somebody gave them to me along with $20.
> I hate having anything stuck inside my ear further than the wired Earpods, 
> they happen to fit me great and I don't even have to push them in hard and 
> they just stay in place.
> I also wouldn't be caught dead spending the kind of money on two little 
> things which only last 5 or 6 hours and which I am bound to loose sooner or 
> later.
> Now keep in mind that this is strictly my take, I know many of  you love them 
> and that's fine, then of course if I did spend the money on them I'd also say 
> I love them.
> As for wearing something in bed when you most likely will fall asleep there 
> is nothing better than those sleep headbands which have a set of very thin 
> speakers on each side over your ear and a little control pod on  your 
> forehead with 3 buttons for volume up/down and play/pause in the middle. Of 
> course if you want to fall asleep to high fidelty music then these are not 
> the right thing, but they are fine for audio books or, if you are into those 
> sleep sounds, that would probably be just fine, but they are the most 
> comfortable thing and I usually sleep on my side so I definitely know and I 
> often wake up in the middle of the night with my Audible book happily playing 
> and I then usually stop it, pull them off my head and thrown them on the side 
> table. You can find them on Amazon, just make sure you do look for wireless 
> ones because the original ones do have a 3.5mm cable and that of course is 
> sucks. I think I paid around $30 Canadian for mine about 2 or 3 years ago and 
> they still work great.
> I also have an Aftershokz Open Com which I use in certain situations and 
> another Bluetooth gadget I have is one of these around the neck speakers, 
> they consist of a thick and relatively soft rubbery cable about as thick as 
> your thumb and one each end is a speaker, one has the typical buttons to turn 
> it on/off and for play/pause and volume up/down. I quite like using them at 
> home when I am out in the summer in the garden or even while cooking, your 
> audio is right there more or less in front of your shoulders and you can 
> easily reach up and pause or change the volume.for cert But I just bought a 
> new set of Lightning Earpods because they are still my preferred headset, 
> there is no lag and for $24.99 Canadian I get surprisingly good sounding 
> earbuds. I probably go through a pair a year, sometimes a bit longer, but as 
> I said, inexpensive, good and when I don't need them I roll them up around my 
> hand and stick them into my pocket.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
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Re: fixing a compass heading

[Dan]

  
  
Sandie,


Have you tried the ?Blind Compass app?  It
makes tones to indicate the direction.  If you start out on a
tone and you veer from that directions it would change the
tone.  It isn't super accurate but it might be sufficient for
your needs.  Check it out.


Dan Beaver

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On 11/21/2022 10:53 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins'
  via VIPhone wrote:


  hi,
I want to say fix my heading to go to south and have the phone keep me on track, how can I do this? I want to use the built-in compass app but I am open to other suggestions. when I open the built-in compass app I can point and get compass directions but I don't seem to be able to do anything else at all.
Thanks for any help, Sandy and Z

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Re: Unable to rename a playlist in apple music

[Dan Yates]

Kimberly, sorry, what I meant to say was, I was unable to give a name to a new 
play list. W Was getting ready to make a holiday play list and can’t figure out 
how to give it a name. Instead, it’s just the first song on the list that 
appears to be the title.

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> On Nov 16, 2022, at 1:10 PM, Kimberly  wrote:
> 
> Dan, 
> 
> I can't help with the renaming problem as I am still having that same issue 
> myself.  But when you say you are unable to edit a playlist do you mean 
> you’re unable to delete songs? I can help you with that if that’s what you 
> mean.
> 
> In order to remove songs from an existing playlist, first double tap the more 
> button at the top of the screen. Once you have entered the playlist you want 
> to edit. You will then see an edit button and you want to double tap that. Go 
> down to the song that you want to remove and swipe up with one finger. I 
> believe the first option is delete, and if you double tap, that song will be 
> deleted from the playlist.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous books can 
> be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
>> 
>> Kimberly and others, I am an Apple Music subscriber and have encountered 
>> the same things you’ve described in your message. I can neither edit an 
>> existing playlist or assign a title to a new one. Can anyone help with this?
>> Dan USA
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I think this problem has been around for a couple of iOS releases now.
>>> 
>>> Using voiceover on my iPhone, I am unable to edit/change the title of
>>> playlists. It doesn't matter if it is a playlist I created myself or a
>>> new playlist I am attempting to create. I double tap the field
>>> containing the name of the playlist I am unable to navigate by
>>> character or to delete whatever name is in the field. By positioning
>>> the cursor at the beginning of the field I am able to type additional
>>> characters in front of any existing text, but I can't otherwise edit
>>> the name.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this problem? It makes managing my
>>> playlists really difficult.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any info.
>>> 
>>> Kim
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Re: Unable to rename a playlist in apple music

[Dan Yates]

Kimberly and others, I am an Apple Music subscriber and have encountered the 
same things you’ve described in your message. I can neither edit an existing 
playlist or assign a title to a new one. Can anyone help with this?
Dan USA


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> On Oct 9, 2022, at 9:37 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I think this problem has been around for a couple of iOS releases now.
> 
> Using voiceover on my iPhone, I am unable to edit/change the title of
> playlists. It doesn't matter if it is a playlist I created myself or a
> new playlist I am attempting to create. I double tap the field
> containing the name of the playlist I am unable to navigate by
> character or to delete whatever name is in the field. By positioning
> the cursor at the beginning of the field I am able to type additional
> characters in front of any existing text, but I can't otherwise edit
> the name.
> 
> Does anyone have a solution for this problem? It makes managing my
> playlists really difficult.
> 
> Thanks for any info.
> 
> Kim
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Re: How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

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Many thanks, Anna!DanSent from my iPhoneOn Nov 13, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi Dan,Go to any Home Screen, touch an app, flick up or down to edit Mode, and double-tap. Now find the app you want to move. Flick down to the Drag option and double-tap. Touch an app or folder that you want to be to its left or right. Then flick down until you get to the Drop option you want, and double-tap. Edit mode will close a few seconds later, or you can do the Home gesture or press the Home button to exit.Best,AnnaOn Nov 13, 2022, at 12:52 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:I accidentally triggered edit mode and have moved one of my apps down toward the bottom of my home screen. I want to move it back where it was. Can anyone tell me the steps for this? All I can find in the old emails is how to delete. Many thanks to all.Dan YatesSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 12, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:To delete an app from your iPhone, do the following:1.  Locate the app you would like to delete, and select it by doing a 1-finger touch.2.  Set your rotor to Actions, and swipe up until you hear VoiceOver say “Edit Mode”.3.  Now, do a 1-finger double-tap, and you will hear VoiceOver say “Started Editing”.4.  Swipe up until you hear VoiceOver say “Activate”, and do a 1-finger double-tap.5.  VoiceOver will now ask if you want to Delete the app, or remove it from the Home screen.  If you choose Delete, the app will be deleted from your device.  If you choose Remove from Home Screen, the app will remain of your device, and will reside in the App Library.6.  If you choose Delete, you will be asked once again to confirm this is really what you want to do.HTH..- Brad -



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Re: How to delete an ap from my IPHONE

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I accidentally triggered edit mode and have moved one of my apps down toward the bottom of my home screen. I want to move it back where it was. Can anyone tell me the steps for this? All I can find in the old emails is how to delete. Many thanks to all.Dan YatesSent from my iPhoneOn Apr 12, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:To delete an app from your iPhone, do the following:1.  Locate the app you would like to delete, and select it by doing a 1-finger touch.2.  Set your rotor to Actions, and swipe up until you hear VoiceOver say “Edit Mode”.3.  Now, do a 1-finger double-tap, and you will hear VoiceOver say “Started Editing”.4.  Swipe up until you hear VoiceOver say “Activate”, and do a 1-finger double-tap.5.  VoiceOver will now ask if you want to Delete the app, or remove it from the Home screen.  If you choose Delete, the app will be deleted from your device.  If you choose Remove from Home Screen, the app will remain of your device, and will reside in the App Library.6.  If you choose Delete, you will be asked once again to confirm this is really what you want to do.HTH..- Brad -



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16.1 fixed my Siri issues.

[Dan Yates]

I updated to 16.1 this evening and now Siri will identify music that she hears 
playing on another device and I can pull down Apple news with a Siri command. 
So relieved that these issues are fixed.
Dan


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Re: native calendar discussion

[Dan]

  
  
Paula,


I looked and the only setting I can see
that might help is if you have your calendar sync all events.


In my calendar When I first open it it
shows me the current day and if I swipe right it will show me
the events for today.  If I tap on the event it will then show
me all events as I described in my earlier posting.


Have you double tapped on one of your
events for today and looked to see if you can then  swipe
through the other events in your calendar?


I hope this helps some.


Dan Beaver

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On 10/18/2022 3:43 PM, Dan wrote:


  Paula,
  
  
  I just checked mine and I have list turned on and it shows me a
list of events,  it includes the day of the week, the date and
the events for each date.
  
  
  I will try to determine what all of my calendar settings are to
see if it will help you.
  
  
  
  
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Re: native calendar discussion

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Paula,


I just checked mine and I have list turned
on and it shows me a list of events,  it includes the day of the
week, the date and the events for each date.


I will try to determine what all of my
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bluetooth earbuds/phones again

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Hi all,


My wife is having an issue with her BT
earphones and I do not know how to solve it.  I hope you can
help.


The issue is that if she is listening to
something and the sound stops due to a silent part of the
program or changing to another track or something the earphones
will drop the signal.  Then when the sound starts again the
earphones do not pick back up quickly enough and she misses
anything from part of a word to a couple of words.


Is this involving a setting to fix it so
the earphones do not drop out so quickly or is it an issue where
we need to get some different earphones?  If different earphones
what would you suggest, she likes the earphones that have the
part that goes into the ear canal and not just ear buds.  She
does our mowing and other things where the ear buds drop out of
her ear so she prefers the in the ear canal type.


Thanks for any help with this.




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Re: "a question about updating

[Dan Yates]

I am running the latest update, and Siri continues to not do the song 
identification. When I hear a song playing, and I ask Siri to name this song, 
she will say “let me listen “and after about 10 seconds, will say I can’t 
recognize songs right now try again in a bit. I’ve written to Apple 
accessibility and haven’t gotten anywhere. I hope they get this fixed. 
Dan


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> On Oct 10, 2022, at 1:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta 
> and Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying 
> songs. If I hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what 
> song is that", Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds 
> I get the answer.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song 
> name & singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when 
> listen to the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my phone 
>> identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this problem 
>> is happening though.
>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>>> computer, 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple music, 
>>> and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was playing 
>>> with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>>> Shazam on my
>>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>>> Siri does not.
>>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>> 
>>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. But 
>>>> if I use my iPhone 11 running
>>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify any 
>>>> song.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: is 
>>>>> Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but to 
>>>>> Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within Control 
>>>>> Pannel?
>>>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>>>

another request for suggested weather apps

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,


I have seen some discussion about this so
I hope this doesn't become offensive.


I have seen talk about Carrot Weather and
some others.  I tried Carrot Weather and I find it absolutely
annoying.  It has far too much extraneous junk that I do not
want.  It also doesn't give me any more useful info than the
default Iphone weather app does.

  
I am looking for an app that is accessible
of course but also gives hourly temp, hourly wind, current
conditions, current humidity and sunrise/sunset times.

  
If anyone knows of such an app I sure
would appreciate hearing about it.

  
  

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Can’t get Siri to play Apple news podcast

[Dan Yates]

Prior to the 16 update, I could ask Siri, each morning, to “play Apple news 
“and it would play the daily 8 to 10 minute podcast that I listen to. Since 
that time, Siri simply won’t do it. Siri will play other podcast, but not this 
one. Anyone else dealing with this issue. 
Dan Yates USA


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trouble using taptic time if watch is covered by a shirt sleeve

[Dan]

  
  
Has anyone else noticed that since
updating to watch OS 9 taptic time is harder to activate if the
watch is covered by anything.  I have used it since figuring out
how to use it.  It has worked well for me even if it is covered
up by my shirt sleeve.  However, since updating it is now much
harder to activate if covered.  If I uncover it it still seems
to work as it did in the past but I didn't used to need to
uncover it first.


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a heading issue with IOS 16.0.2 in the VoiceDreamReader app

[Dan]

  
  
I just found that if I am looking at
book/documents from BookShare in VDR there is a problem.


I started to look at periodicals.  I then
changed the rotor to headings.  I then started doing a single
finger swipe down to move header to header.  I found that VO
doesn't announce the new header as it changes.  If I swipe down
then swipe left and then swipe right it announces the new
header.


I do not know if this is a VO with VDR
issue or something weird with VDR and BookShare data.   I
suspect it is an issue with VO and VDR though.


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Regarding Siri limitation allegation

[Dan Yates]

OK, I have humiliated myself by failing to observe the golden rule of iPhone 
investigations, that is shut down your phone and reboot before you begin to 
think you have a problem. my phone is working fine now with Siri pulling up any 
musical artist I asked for because I shut the phone down and then tried again. 
L O L sorry about that.
Dan


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Another new Siri limitation

[Dan Yates]

Since updating to 16, I’m noticing that Siri will not pull up an artist from 
Apple Music. I am subscribed to this service, and Siri will only check my 
library, rather than the entire Apple Music catalog. Prior to this, I could 
say, Siri, play, The Beatles “and this “occurred with no problem, whether it 
was in my library or not.
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Re: identifying music

[Dan Yates]

Joe, thanks for bringing this issue up. I have an iPhone 12 mini and I have 
updated to 16, now experiencing the same thing myself. I did write to Apple 
accessibility, so maybe enough people will alert them of this, so that it can 
be fixed.
Dan


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> On Sep 21, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello Jen,
> I've taken a look at the music app in control centre, I can't for the
> life of me figure out how to submit a track.
> I see an empty list, a history, and the option to back up the list to
> the cloud.  If you would rather answer off list to avoid traffic, that
> is ok, please don't feel you have to address this at all.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> email address below.
> Joe.
> patonpl...@gmail.com if you want to use it.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2022 05:40:19 -0600
> Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> It wouldn't hurt to write accessibil...@apple.com and let them know what you 
> are experiencing. I have a 13 pro max that doesthe same thing. It is not a 
> headset problem. A lot of us are getting it from Siri not identifying the 
> song but Music Recognition in Control Center does. So, you aren't alone.
> 
> Jenn 
> 
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2022, at 3:39 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hello all.
>> 
>> This is really of interest, nothing more.
>> I have an Iphon 12, brand new.  during setup, the invitation which can not 
>> be refused, to update to IOS16 was offered, so I seized it, with something
>> close to enthusiasm.
>> 
>> so one of the benefits of this update, on this phone, is that the system
>> no longer identifies music, artist, or title, instead the encouraging
>> message, "sorry I can't recognize music right now, please try in a bit.
>> A bit of what? I ask!
>> 
>> this message is spoken with something close to confidence.
>> 
>> with her permission, I reach for my wife's SE  second generation,
>> running IOS16, and pose the same question. Now I hear huge applause, and
>> the music is adentifyed as Chick Corea, Crystal silence.
>> to keep this esay short, I repeat the procedure with my old Iphone 7
>> plus, running IOS 15.7, and My Ipad, and they both, almost in perfect
>> harmony, identify each item of music, while the beautiful Shiny new
>> iphone 12, stubborn in its reluctance, or inability to perform the same
>> task fails with utmost confidence.
>> It seems that this update has negative effects on some phones, but not
>> all phones.  Maybe this is a handset problem, but I doubt it.
>> 
>> After writing the above, I asked Shazam to identify a track, 
>> . You can guess the outcome? perfect.
>> 
>> so there we have it.  Where, in the huge organization of apple, would I
>> advise, if they don't know already, of this problem.
>> Thanks for reading.
>> good luck with IOS 16 yall.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
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how close apps on the watch

[Dan]

  
  
You can double press the home button on
Iphones with a home button and get a list of open apps. You can
select any of these you wish and then do a 3 finger swipe up and
close those apps. How can I close open apps on the watch?


I have looked through the apple watch user
guide and have googled this topic but can't find anything about
this.  Is it even possible?
  


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Re: Embarrassing question.

[Dan Yates]

Wow! Can’t believe how intense the reaction was to this guy just asking for 
some information. no need to be so hostile toward this person.
Dan


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> On Aug 30, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Chikodinaka Oguledo  
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> i did not do it it is some 1else not me
> 
>> On 8/30/22, alia robinson  wrote:
>> why should someone be embarrassed about asking for accessible apps for their
>> phone too hookup or date? why is talk of relationships embarrassing?! or
>> casual hookups either. there are sites for that, and if one is more
>> accessible than another it’s good for people looking to know. sex is not
>> embarrassing!
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Jenny Bomareto
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The original poster regarding this topic should be very embarrassed as
>>> this is the wrong group to be talking about stuff like this even though
>>> I’m not the moderator of the group this is horrible stuff.  In my opinion
>>> I think the original poster that posted that’s been talking about all this
>>> should be blocked so he’s not allowed to send any email.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>> Jenny Bomareto
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Re: Voiceover applying phonetic alphabet when spelling out a word

[Dan Yates]

Delia, thanks very much, this is exactly what I needed!
Dan


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> On Aug 30, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
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> Go to voiceover settings and scroll till you hear typing. Tap on that and 
> select phonetic feedback. Make sure it’s set to characters and phonetics.
> Hth
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> Sent from my iPod
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>> On Aug 30, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Dan Yates  wrote:
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>> Sometimes, when spelling out a word character by character, using voice 
>> over, I have trouble distinguishing between the M in parentheses Mike and 
>> parentheses and the N in parentheses November and parentheses. When I use my 
>> computers screen reader, it will give me the phonetic alphabet words such as 
>> Mike, November, etc.. How can I get voice over to do the same, we using my 
>> phone? Hope this question makes sense. 
>> Dan Yates
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Voiceover applying phonetic alphabet when spelling out a word

[Dan Yates]

Sometimes, when spelling out a word character by character, using voice over, I 
have trouble distinguishing between the M in parentheses Mike and parentheses 
and the N in parentheses November and parentheses. When I use my computers 
screen reader, it will give me the phonetic alphabet words such as Mike, 
November, etc.. How can I get voice over to do the same, we using my phone? 
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how to answer phone call using an apple watch

[Dan]

  
  
Hi,

  
I am still not able to figure out how to
answer an incoming call from my apple watch. It is a series 7
watch.  I have it paired to my phone.

  
When the call comes in and the phone
starts ringing and the watch is making its sound how do I answer
the call on the watch?  I have tried pressing the crown, tapping
the screen on the watch, swiping the watch face to see if there
is an answer button there but nothing seems to work.

  
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Re: sorting facebook posts by most recent

[Dan Yates]

Hi Dan, I’m using the Facebook app on my iPhone and just checked, just below 
“messenger quote is the same tab that allows me to switch from recent to other 
choices.
Dan Yates

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> On Jul 20, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Dan  wrote:
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> 
> Until 2 days ago I was able to click on a tab near the top of the screen on 
> my Iphone and it would sort the posts by most recent to older.  Now that tab 
> is gone and I can't find a way to do this anymore.
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to get this back or is it even possible anymore?
> 
> 
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sorting facebook posts by most recent

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
Until 2 days ago I was able to click on a
tab near the top of the screen on my Iphone and it would sort
the posts by most recent to older.  Now that tab is gone and I
can't find a way to do this anymore.

  
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can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

[Dan]

  
  
I have installed it and I thought I
remembered some folks talking about using it with VO.  I have
opened a book but I can't figure out how to read the book at
all.  I see lots of controls but not text.  Oh yes, it is an
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blind musicians list

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I have seen some discussion of playing
musical instruments on this list but do not want to go too far
off topic.  Where can I find a blind musicians list?  I want to
find some help on how to learn to play guitars or mandolins as a
blind person.  
  

  
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answering phone calls on apple watch connected to my iphone

[Dan]

  
  
How do I answer phone calls on my apple
watch?  When my watch starts alerting me that there is a call
and my phone starts sounding the phone call ring tone I can't
figure out how to answer the call on my watch.  How do I do
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pandora music from specific artists through an echo device

[Dan]

  
  
I do not know where to ask this so here
goes.

  
I have started listening to music through
my echo device.   I am having it play music from my Pandora
account.  One thing I can't figure out is how to get it to play
music from specific artists like I can on my Iphone.

  
Does anyone know how to do this?

  
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echo and echo dot

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I recall seeing a fairly extensive
discussion about these and other devices but didn't pay much
attention then because I didn't need one for myself.  I still do
not need one for myself but my Mom who is 89 this year and is
not very tech savvied has lost almost all of her sight and
doesn't want to use VO or talkback on her phone.  I am thinking
of getting one of these because after demoing giving voice
commands to my Iphone she is now interested in doing something
similar but not to her phone.  Her occupational therapist has
convinced her that devices like echos and echo dots are more
accurate and would work better for her.  She says this is based
on her experience as an OT. 
  

  
My question is this, which devices seem
the most forgiving for less than perfect speech when giving
voice commands?  We also do not want to spend a ton of money in
case this doesn't work out well for her.

  
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Re: Annoying behavior in Mail

[Dan Yates]

Thanks Ryan! You taught me something I didn’t know. I will use this technique 
because, just like others, I’ve gotten really weary of the messages jumping 
when trying to use the rotr setting


Dan 
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> On Apr 17, 2022, at 3:21 PM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
> 
>  think that’s why I stopped reading threads that way.  I have another way 
> that is annoying, but reliable.  When I am in the list of messages, I expand 
> the thread by flicking down with one fingeruntil VoiceOver says expand thread 
> then double-tap.
> Then I keep flicking to the right until I get to the first message in the 
> thread.  I open the message and read it.
> Then I hit the back button to get out of the message.
> If I want to read any of the other messages, I flick until I find one I want 
> to read and open it.
> Yes, that’s tedious, but that’s the only reliable way I know how to read 
> threads with VoiceOver.
> 
> 
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>> On Apr 17, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve also seen this, and in my experience there doesn’t have to be as many 
>> as twenty messages in the thread for it to happen. Unfortunately I don’t 
>> know a way around it. Ive sometimes found that closing mail and reopening it 
>> will work, but more often than not it won’t.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On 17 Apr 2022, at 19:22, William Outman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have annoying behavior happening in Mail. When I have a long thread of 
>>> mail messages, say 20-30 or more as happens on a couple email lists, I 
>>> sometimes cannot advance using the message setting in the rotor without 
>>> being jumped somewhere back in thr thread. Sometimes I can get back to 
>>> where I was, but other times I can’t without being bounced again. 
>>> There are times when Mail acts as if I have reached the last message even 
>>> though there are more in the thread. 
>>> Is there any way to combat this such as giving a command to go to X number 
>>> message quickly. Any other suggestions would be helpful. 
>>> Bill Outman 
>>> 
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entering text on watch via iphone keybord

[Dan]

  
  
I am trying to connect my watch to my wifi
network.  When I tap on the network ssid it takes me to a screen
where you can apparently scribble with your finger to enter the
password and it has a supposed text field.  I can't get it to
bring up a keyboard and my phone says something about entering
text on the watch via the iphone but I can't find anything on
the phone screen to activate the keyboard either.

  
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best way to find apps for an apple watch

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I have my new Apple Watch SE GPS 44mm.  I
have been learning it and am now ready to remove apps I do not
want and add new ones.  I already know how to remove apps but I
am uncertain about the best way to find apps specifically for
the watch.  I have tried doing a search in the app store for
apple watch and find tons but some seem to be more for i phones
and tablet interfacing with the watch or apps that monitor for
specific conditions in other ways.

  
Is there a best way to find apps
specifically for the apple watch?

  
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apple care for an apple watch?

[Dan]

  
  
Hi all,

  
I was trying to setup apple care for my
watch.  I can't find it on the watch in settings at all and
can't seem to find it on apple.com either.  Can anyone tell me
how to do this?

  
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how to mute and check the time on an apple watch

[Dan]

  
  
Ok, I purchased an apple watch SE GPS
44mm.  I love it already.

  
I am trying to figure out though how to
mute all the audio sounds and to do the gesture that vibrates
the time.

  
I know how to turn speech off but I can't
figure out how to mute all the audio sounds so it isn't
intrusive.

  
I also can't seem to find any description
of how to do the time vibration gesture.
  

  
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which apple watch to choose?

[Dan]

  
  
I am considering purchasing an apple
watch.  I am very unfamiliar with them though as far as which
watch has which features.  I looked at some of them on a google
search but really can't tell which might fit my needs.  If
anyone could help me understand the features I'd sure appreciate
it.  My needs are below:

  
I want to be able to tell the time with
out the watch speaking it in some situations.
I do not really think i need it to
communicate via cell signals since I won't be using it for calls
when I do not have my phone with me.  The times when I don't
have my phone with me will be times when I do not want phone
calls to come through.
I definitely want it to work with
VoiceOver.
I want to be able to handle texts, emails,
phone calls etc when I am also carrying my phone with me.

  
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Re: Is Siri the problem?

[Dan Yates]

Hi Tom and others, while I have not experienced these specific things you 
mentioned, I continue to get the lack of response occasionally when she will 
say “got it “, or “working on it “, then finally say something went wrong 
please try again.
Dan


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> On Mar 5, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Are most of us having issues with Siri during the last couple of IOS 
> updates?  If dictating a message, Siri is so low in volume that Ican’t hear 
> it repeating the message back to me.  Also Siri rarely gets the dictation 
> correct.  Also sometimes I cannot turn the volume up on the Home Screen.  
> Siri issues
> If I turn blue tooth off that sometimes fixes the problem.  Just wondering if 
> this is a known issue.  Thanks. much.
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7 little words has been improved

[Dan]

  
  
I noticed an update to 7 little words
today and installed it. I rebooted my phone and tried it out. 
It is very much more responsive and easy to play using VO.

  
Just thought some might want to know since
I hadn't seen this mentioned lately.

  


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Re: Bose frames

[Dan Yates]

Hey everyone, I have just gotten my Bose frame tenors and can’t say enough 
about how pleased I have been with this purchase. They are just what I wanted. 
I am able to go out in public whether in a restaurant or on walks and play soft 
music, make phone calls, etc. while moving about without having my ears 
completely closed up with earbuds or some type of covering. The sound is great 
and they paired very easily with my iPhone. I have not downloaded the app, not 
sure that I really need to.
A great investment though and highly recommend them!
Dan


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> On Dec 10, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Dan Yates  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for this info! Will help a lot! I I foolishly agreed with my 
> wife that I would wait until Christmas to open them, will be squirming until 
> then! LOL
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 10, 2021, at 5:11 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes,
>> As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the current top 
>> of the range bose frames,
>> The latest products from bose in the way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use 
>> the music app.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're 
>> asking about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is 
>> indeed the app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
>> necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
>> set a few settings.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> thom3...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.
>> 
>> Thom
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
>> Yates
>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for 
>> $220. Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
>>> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
>>> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
>>> 
>>> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
>>> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you 
>>> would see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a 
>>> control.
>>> 
>>> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
>>> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Anthony Vece
>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>>> 
>>> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
>>> Earbuds
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 

Re: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.

[Dan Yates]

My AirPods Pro, that I got one year ago, work great, no concerns about 
VoiceOver and cost around $250.

S
Dan
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> On Dec 28, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Pairing is supposed to be easy, you just open the case and it will pop up on 
> your phone; then again most Bluetooth headsets or earpieces are easy to pair.
> As for cost, remember to add that you are in Canada since it doesn't do you 
> much good if people tell you they are $179 which is what they cost in the 
> United States.
> Here in Canada they are $239 and you can buy them of course from Apple, Best 
> Buy also sells them, but  you have to fork out an extra 99 Cents as they are 
> $239.99 there.
> In my opinion too expensive considering that you are basically buying into a 
> subscription, they are rechargeavble so they have a limited life span and I 
> never heard about Apple offering a battery replacement for a set of Airpods. 
> Battery life is supposed to be 6 hours so assume they do reasonably well with 
> 500 charge cycles and you have to charge them every 2 days; this would give  
> you a thousand days so roughly 3 years. I think since the first Airpods were 
> only released 4 years ago we haven't heard that much about when the battery 
> life declines to the point when it is a pain in the ar so to speak to use 
> them because maybe they only last 3 hours. There might be people on the list 
> who have bought some of the original Airpods 4 years ago and who can comment 
> on this if of course they still have them and haven't upgraded to one of the 
> newer models. This of course is Apple's intend, you used to buy a good 
> headset and had it for years, now Apple is making the products obsolete after 
> a few years because they come out with new models with better features and 
> people then want them. Anyways, even if you kept and used them for 4 or 5 
> years, it basically works out to around $54 per year if you kept them for 5 
> years and $68 a month if you kept them for 4 years.
> Everybody's choice of course, but these are definitely more of an "I want 
> them item" then an "I need them" item and for me personally there is very 
> little which makes me want them.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of mich 
> verrier
> Sent: December 28, 2021 5:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.
>  
> Hi my neffew got Air pods I think it was the third jen they are the ones with 
> the magnetic case and I had a chance to look at them. I am wondering what are 
> the cost of air pods? Of korce my neffew beaing sighted he doesn’t use 
> voiceover but for those who are blind and vi on this list who have air pods 
> how easy are they to pair and use with vo? Since after seeing them it makes 
> me kind of want a pair lol. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario 
> Canada.
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Re: how to make the click sound louder when putting in password

[Dan Yates]

It does seem like, prior to a few of these upgrades, the iPhone would give a 
good loud click each time I entered a password, but overtime they cut that back 
or something
Dan


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> On Dec 19, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> You can't increase the click sound when entering in things like
> passwords, or your touch ID.  I'd suggest try wearing a pair of
> bluetooth headphones or ear-buds.  Whenever I wear a set of bluetooth
> headphones and I need to enter in my passcode, I always hear the
> clicks when I'm wearing my headphones.
> 
>> On 12/19/21, Arlene  wrote:
>> On a few of our phones of which are the first se phones, the click sound is
>> very faint, it can hardly be heard. So if you can tell us how to increase
>> the volume on the click sound when typing in a password. Thank you for
>> assistance with this.
>> 
>> Arlene
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Dan Yates]

Mini thanks Richard!
Dan


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> On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> sent several of us were having problems with Siri and the server I sent a 
> note to Apple accessibility.
> Here is how they responded, which I see as a very hopeful sign on how they 
> are prioritizing accessibility.
> Hello Richard,
> 
> We let our team know about these issues you were experiencing. 15.2 did 
> include many fixes for VoiceOver and restored functionality to Siri, so it 
> seems that some the issues you encountered were, as you said, server related. 
> But any reports of VoiceOver and Siri not working together are being 
> immediately escalated and investigated.
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> website:  www.turner42.com
> 
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, 
>> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought 
>> I would state my conclusion about this.
>>  
>> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
>> mood, whatever you want to call it. 
>> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that 
>> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using 
>> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when 
>> it cannot talk to itself.
>>  
>> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it 
>> while the phone was locked.
>> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the 
>> phone was locked.
>>  
>> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
>> little annoying when it doesn’t.
>>  
>> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few 
>> minutes later it probably can.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Siri, Please try again later, my observations

[Dan Yates]

Well, I’ll just say that Siri seems to have good days and bad days. The good 
does outweigh the bad so I will refrain from carrying on about it lol
Dan

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> On Dec 15, 2021, at 3:00 PM, Esther Levegnale  
> wrote:
> 
> ain't that the truth! Esther P. S. So far, I am not having trouble with 
> Siri. I better not see any more because he might jinx me! Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:27 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Since a couple of us today were bit by the Siri, ON it, Working on it, 
>> Sorry, I cannot do that right now, please try again later message; I thought 
>> I would state my conclusion about this.
>>  
>> That message appears because Siri’s servers are busy, down, flakey, in a bad 
>> mood, whatever you want to call it. 
>> Or, your phone is too busy, to cranky, etc., but it seems to show that 
>> still, for many things, Siri is reaching to the server and not just using 
>> your phone and at those times, you get that lovely message to try later when 
>> it cannot talk to itself.
>>  
>> I commented that I had run into the same issue after Tom had reported it 
>> while the phone was locked.
>> Then, like Tom, a little while later, Siri responded just fine while the 
>> phone was locked.
>>  
>> So, welcome to the age of technology which is lovely when it works, and a 
>> little annoying when it doesn’t.
>>  
>> But, it ain’t worth talking about when Siri cannot help because a few 
>> minutes later it probably can.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> “One can’t be angry when one looks at a penguin.” ~ John Ruskin
>>  
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Re: Bose frames

[Dan Yates]

Thanks everyone for this info! Will help a lot! I I foolishly agreed with my 
wife that I would wait until Christmas to open them, will be squirming until 
then! LOL

Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 10, 2021, at 5:11 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Yes,
> As I had said, the bose music app is what you need for all the current top of 
> the range bose frames,
> The latest products from bose in the way of wifi / Bluetooth speakers use the 
> music app.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Friday, 10 December 2021 6:31 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Sorry I have the Tempos, but after rereading your message, I see you're 
> asking about the Tenors. I checked the App Store, and the Bose Music app is 
> indeed the app you want for the Tenors. Sorry about that.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> For the Tempos, you'll want the Bose Music app. I don't think it's strictly 
> necessary though, but you can use it to check a few things on the Tempos and 
> set a few settings.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> thom3...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> I think you need the bose music app or the bose connects app.
> 
> Thom
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dan 
> Yates
> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for 
> $220. Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
> Thanks,
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
>> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
>> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>> 
>> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
>> 
>> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
>> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you 
>> would see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
>> 
>> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
>> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>> 
>> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear 
>> Earbuds
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses 
>>> I already have?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by 
>>>> my sighted wife to swap them out!
>>>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>>>>> Danney
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>>>> 
>&g

Re: Bose frames

[Dan Yates]

Hi everyone, I purchased Bose frames tenor today at Best Buy, on sale for $220. 
Do I need to download some type of bose app to begin using these?
Thanks,
Dan

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 3, 2021, at 3:28 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, but ear buds like the original Airpods have very little noise 
> cancellation and wouldn't block much sound. Ear buds like the Airpod Pros 
> have transparency mode so would allow ambient noise to come through.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Bose frames
> 
> Your choice, but I think that would look odd,
> 
> With the frames you are wearing glasses as the speakers are within the arms 
> of them as are the volume and power / play etc controls, Infact all you would 
> see is the very small power button on the base of the arm as a control.
> 
> And wearing earpods / airpods wouldn't let you hear the surrounding sounds 
> like the frames or aftershockz will give you.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 6:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Bose frames
> 
> I guess if I look at it that way it would be just as easier to wear Earbuds
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 2:04 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you I wonder if I could buy speakers and put them on the sunglasses I 
>> already have?
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 1:42 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have the orange lenses for my Tempo frames. It needed huge efforts by my 
>>> sighted wife to swap them out!
>>> With RP I need to cut out the blue end of the light spectrum. 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>>>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 01:05, danneyya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> With the Tempo, are there color choices with lenses and/or frames?
>>>> Danney
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 8:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> None of the frames would really come close to rayban aviator sun 
>>>> glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest would be the sports / tempo model of the glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> Tenor are more squarish
>>>> Rondo are round like old granny glasses, Serprano are more tear drop 
>>>> shaped sort of flicking up in to a wing kind of shape at the outer 
>>>> corner of the eyes, These are more a womens glasses,
>>>> 
>>>> The closest
>>>> I think  would be the tempo  which are wrap around.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Anthony Vece
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2021 8:21 am
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Bose frames
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rick and everyone; Rick can you tell me or can anyone tell me 
>>>> what style glasses resemble the aviator style glasses? I have a pair 
>>>> of sunglasses that are aviator style and they’re very comfortable 
>>>> for me. I’d like to get a pair of Bose frames that would resemble 
>>>> the Raybans. The glasses are Raybans. Thank you stay safe
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2021, at 3:57 PM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi. The Frames Tempo doe not have the directional features of the 
>>>>> earlier models. Not sure why Bose decided to abandon that idea. The 
>>>>> Frames do have very good microphones and work re4ally well for making and 
>>>>> receiving phone calls. I wear my Tempos literally all day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warmest regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick Alfaro
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>>> Of Beverly Wieland
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 4:18 PM
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Re: Weary of Siri

[Dan Yates]

I have the iPhone 12 mini. This happens maybe 20% of the time both went on my 
Wi-Fi as well as went out in the community
Dan


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> On Nov 19, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'd be happy if it would just work on the locked screen! Crazy!
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Yates" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 8:13 PM
> Subject: Weary of Siri
> 
> 
> wow! What the heck is wrong with Siri lately. I thought that, after the 
> upgrade, it would no longer be in the cloud and we would have less issues 
> since jit would be on a our phone. Frequently I’m getting this stuff like 
> “one sec  or “working on it and finally somethings wrong please try again.
> Dan
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Weary of Siri

[Dan Yates]

 wow! What the heck is wrong with Siri lately. I thought that, after the 
upgrade, it would no longer be in the cloud and we would have less issues since 
jit would be on a our phone. Frequently I’m getting this stuff like “one sec  
or “working on it and finally somethings wrong please try again.
Dan
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weirdness with VO and asking Siri to spell

[Dan]

  
  
Since installing 15.1 I have noticed Siri
returning bizarre answers for words I want the correct spelling
of.

  
For example, I asked Siri to spell junk
and it spells it j u n k.  But if I ask for the spelling of
dejavu I get t n n o r m a l e e.  Truly bizzar.

  
Has anyone else seen this and is there a
fix for it?  I have tested with a number of other words and
almost all of them give the spelling but with t n n o r m a l
either before the word or after it.

  
Thanks for any help.

  


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Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?

[Dan Yates]

Same here, we have Honeywell thermostat with the TCC app and it works great. 
It’s all about the app, I never touch the thermostat on the wall. Works great 
and you can use it independently.
Oh yes, also we have Alexa connected so we can tell Alexa to set the 
temperature to a particular number and she does it for you. Great stuff
Dan


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> On Nov 3, 2021, at 11:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> HI,
> Here is what we have, but it is about five years ago and is one I think the 
> installer had to get.
> Honeywell Thermostat
>  
> 9320 WF5003-u
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
> Ali
> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 6:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?
>  
> Unfortunately I have no Alexa devices. I prefer to control it with an app on 
> the phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:
> 
> 
> My honeyWell, you can use Alexa to control it by talking to it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 3:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Honey well and nest, which thermostats are more accessible?
>  
> We have a Honeywell thermostat that uses the Total Connect Comfort (tcc) app 
> which is completely accessible.
> The physical thermostat isn't something I would want to deal with on my own, 
> but one could mark it to adjust up or down.
> So, the real question for me is, is the app they use accessible.
> HTH,
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 3, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Cris Ali  wrote:
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> Hi folks,
> I know that the topic of accessible thermostats has been discussed on this 
> list countless number of times. From the past discussions I understood that 
> both Honeywell and google nest make reasonably accessible thermostats. 
> However, each company makes several models which makes it hard to determine 
> which model is the most accessible. Needless to say that technology is 
> changing rapidly, and because of this, some models are no longer available 
> while newer models are being pushed into the markets.
> My thermostat is no longer reliable. Therefore I hope I can get your 
> opinions, based on your experience, which is more accessible, honeywell or 
> nest, and which model? Does the installation need a technician or it can be 
> done by any handyman?
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
> 
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Re: how do you block texts

[Dan]

  
  
Ok, I figured this one out.  the user
guide does not explain it fully so I was confused.

  
to do this you first have to open a text
conversation.  You next double tap on the name/phone number at
the top of the screen.  This will bring up a list of choices. 
The user guide says to scroll down and click on the "block this
sender" button.  This is not correct because this choice doesn't
show up in this list.  You should find the "More info" button
and click on it at this point.  You will now see a list of
choices which does include the block button.   Double tap this
button and you will be prompted for your confirmation of
blocking or canceling.

  
I have already alerted the Apple folks
about this deficiency in the user guide.

  
    

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