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No, because I have not had to ever report anything before, this is the first real bug that I have come across, that seems to be still prevalent, and is really causing me a headache.Simon, the March Merman.On 28 Aug 2024, at 05:31, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone  wrote:Have you reported this to Apple? Both through writing accessibil...@apple.com and using the feedback form www.apple.com/feedbackI've not noticed this.Richard, USA"INTROVERTS UNITE ...SEPARATELY IN YOUR OWN HOMES"-- as seen on a T-shirt with a power fist raisedMy web site: https://www.turner42.com(sent from my iPhone 13 pro) On Aug 27, 2024, at 9:26 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:I’ve been having the same issue since iOS 17 came out and I own an iPhone 14. I encounter the same issues you do. Hope that confirms it for you. Hopefully they fix it in the next version of iOS, some time.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 27, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Is anyone else having problems with being able to navigate properly and edit, for example, if you have copied something into a mail message from another email?Lately, I have had a few incidences, where I have wanted to copy some questions from one email into the reply, and answer them, but as soon as I have copied the questions in, voice over starts messing around, and making it next to impossible! For me to get to the exact place I want, in order to put the answers in, and this is driving me bonkers!A similar thing starts to happen, if I want to put a number of links into an email, I can get away with copying one in, maybe two, but then again, navigation and editing starts going silly.Is there a way of fixing these bugs in the standard mail app please? Or if not, is there another good and fully accessible mail app, that might be better at handling this sort of thing please?Simon, the March Merman.--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A5A8DFA5-1A30-4636-9B77-268409CF793D%40fastmail.co.uk.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/2C835B03-CE1B-4828-A9FD-6D71028E3E79%40gmail.com.



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Re: Is anyone else having these mail app problems?

I haven’t, as wouldn’t have the foggiest idea how to do that stuff.

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> On 28 Aug 2024, at 05:31, Dennis Long  wrote:
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> H you reported it to Apple with screen recordings?
> 
> 
> Dennis Long
> Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro Max
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>> On Aug 28, 2024, at 12:26 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:
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>> I’ve been having the same issue since iOS 17 came out and I own an iPhone 
>> 14. I encounter the same issues you do. Hope that confirms it for you. 
>> Hopefully they fix it in the next version of iOS, some time.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Aug 27, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Goshawk On Horseback 
>>>>  wrote:
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>>> Is anyone else having problems with being able to navigate properly and 
>>> edit, for example, if you have copied something into a mail message from 
>>> another email?
>>> Lately, I have had a few incidences, where I have wanted to copy some 
>>> questions from one email into the reply, and answer them, but as soon as I 
>>> have copied the questions in, voice over starts messing around, and making 
>>> it next to impossible! For me to get to the exact place I want, in order to 
>>> put the answers in, and this is driving me bonkers!
>>> A similar thing starts to happen, if I want to put a number of links into 
>>> an email, I can get away with copying one in, maybe two, but then again, 
>>> navigation and editing starts going silly.
>>> Is there a way of fixing these bugs in the standard mail app please? Or if 
>>> not, is there another good and fully accessible mail app, that might be 
>>> better at handling this sort of thing please?
>>> 
>>> Simon, the March Merman.
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Re: Is anyone else having these mail app problems?

I really hope so, as it is extremely annoying. Unfortunately, with my PC out of 
action, I am having to rely on the iPhone to do my emails. There was one 
incident which was especially annoying a few months ago, where I wanted to send 
a batch of links to various audio files to a particular person, But because of 
this problem, rather than being able to put them all into a single email, had 
to bombard the other person with 25 individual emails, because that’s how many 
links there were, ridiculous or what? 

Simon, the March Merman.

> On 28 Aug 2024, at 05:26, Chela Robles  wrote:
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> I’ve been having the same issue since iOS 17 came out and I own an iPhone 
> 14. I encounter the same issues you do. Hope that confirms it for you. 
> Hopefully they fix it in the next version of iOS, some time.
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 27, 2024, at 9:21 PM, Goshawk On Horseback 
>>  wrote:
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>> Is anyone else having problems with being able to navigate properly and 
>> edit, for example, if you have copied something into a mail message from 
>> another email?
>> Lately, I have had a few incidences, where I have wanted to copy some 
>> questions from one email into the reply, and answer them, but as soon as I 
>> have copied the questions in, voice over starts messing around, and making 
>> it next to impossible! For me to get to the exact place I want, in order to 
>> put the answers in, and this is driving me bonkers!
>> A similar thing starts to happen, if I want to put a number of links into an 
>> email, I can get away with copying one in, maybe two, but then again, 
>> navigation and editing starts going silly.
>> Is there a way of fixing these bugs in the standard mail app please? Or if 
>> not, is there another good and fully accessible mail app, that might be 
>> better at handling this sort of thing please?
>> 
>> Simon, the March Merman.
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Is anyone else having these mail app problems?

Is anyone else having problems with being able to navigate properly and edit, 
for example, if you have copied something into a mail message from another 
email?
Lately, I have had a few incidences, where I have wanted to copy some questions 
from one email into the reply, and answer them, but as soon as I have copied 
the questions in, voice over starts messing around, and making it next to 
impossible! For me to get to the exact place I want, in order to put the 
answers in, and this is driving me bonkers! 
A similar thing starts to happen, if I want to put a number of links into an 
email, I can get away with copying one in, maybe two, but then again, 
navigation and editing starts going silly.
Is there a way of fixing these bugs in the standard mail app please? Or if not, 
is there another good and fully accessible mail app, that might be better at 
handling this sort of thing please?

Simon, the March Merman.

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Re: Forwarding multiple emails?

2024-08-05 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

How is one supposed to do that on the iPhone, which doesn’t have those keys?

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> On 6 Aug 2024, at 02:09, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> Sure, while in your inbox, hold the shift key and use the arrow keys to 
> select your messages you want to forward and hit control+c.  to copy them to 
> the clipboard. Now open a new message and hit control+v to paste them into 
> your message. Of course, this assumes your messages are contiguous.
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> Hello all, don't want to go into too many details, but I need to send about 
> 10 emails to one specific email address. Is there any way on the iPhone, that 
> I can send them all in the one message, rather than having to forward each 
> one individually? Hope that makes sense.
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Forwarding multiple emails?

2024-08-05 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Hello all, don’t want to go into too many details, but I need to send about 10 
emails to one specific email address. Is there any way on the iPhone, that I 
can send them all in the one message, rather than having to forward each one 
individually? Hope that makes sense. 

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Re: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive

2024-07-06 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Are there not any good iOS apps to do this job? As these all seem to be Windows programs, and my Windows machine is out of action at the moment.Simon, the March Merman.On 6 Jul 2024, at 16:49, Mario Eiland  wrote:Hi, I use the following program to download YouTube audio and video files.TCA-MediaDownloader Download the program here.https://drive.google.com/uc?id=18drXPIjAfjj_BjX1CKnAX1-pT3J4P7fP&export=downloadWhen unarchiving (also known as unzipping) the .rar file, it has a password, it is all lowercase and you can simply select and copy it to the clipboard and paste it when the process asks for the password:TecnoconocimientoaccesibleIt is a program that does not need to be installed, simply unrar it into it's own folder and run it's executable. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.comSent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 3:51 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive Th Youtube app won’t allow me to share it. I have to keep in in the YT appp. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 5:50 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive You said you already downloaded them, as long as you know where they are just go to the video, start playing it and find the Sghare button, then send it to your Dropbox.As for saving it on a thumb drive directly from an iPhone would require you to have one of the USB drives which can plug directly into an iPhone, if you have anything below an iPhone 15 this means the drive has to have a Lightning port. Such drives usually come with an app and you would save it to the drive the same way via the share sheet and then instead of selecting Dropbox, you would select the app your thumb drive uses. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of LyneSent: Sunday, June 30, 2024 8:23 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comCc: macvisionar...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive Hello Sarai,I don't have premieum but I use the link with  3D Youtube Download and it's accessible. Lyne Le 30 juin 2024 à 10:20, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com a écrit :All:I have youtube premium.I downloaded a couple videos.How can I save them to dropbox or a thumb drive?If I cannot is there another Youtube video downloader app that is accessible?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000401dacaf8%24a5d06890%24f17139b0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/085C9F4A-47A0-4BFF-8127-84445D3D60C0%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To v

Re: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive

2024-07-06 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Thanks, I was hoping it would be an iOS app, not another Windows job, as my Windows machine is on the fritz at the moment. Simon, the March Merman.On 6 Jul 2024, at 12:02, Lyne  wrote:Hello Simon,Try it:3d youtube downloader (x64)google.comLyneLe 5 juill. 2024 à 23:01, Goshawk On Horseback  a écrit :Please could you share a link for this app, thanks.Simon, the March Merman.On 30 Jun 2024, at 16:23, Lyne  wrote:Hello Sarai,I don't have premieum but I use the link with  3D Youtube Download and it's accessible. LyneLe 30 juin 2024 à 10:20, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com a écrit :All:I have youtube premium.I downloaded a couple videos.How can I save them to dropbox or a thumb drive?If I cannot is there another Youtube video downloader app that is accessible?



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Re: saving youtube videos to dropbox or thumb drive

2024-07-05 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Please could you share a link for this app, thanks.Simon, the March Merman.On 30 Jun 2024, at 16:23, Lyne  wrote:Hello Sarai,I don't have premieum but I use the link with  3D Youtube Download and it's accessible. LyneLe 30 juin 2024 à 10:20, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com a écrit :All:I have youtube premium.I downloaded a couple videos.How can I save them to dropbox or a thumb drive?If I cannot is there another Youtube video downloader app that is accessible?



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Re: third party speech for IOS?

2024-02-20 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

What did you install it on please? As I know these are available on android, but haven’t known them to be available for iOS. I use one myself on my note20ultra5G, and also used to use it on my note8, and never had Any problems with it at all. Personally I really like these voices, but have heard several people who seem to have issues with them, even though I never have so far, thank the good Lord. Simon, the March Merman.On 19 Feb 2024, at 23:15, Ivan Icin  wrote:There are CereProc voices which are high quality and cost 1$/voice. I have just installed one of them. They do appear to be of solid quality but are a bit laggy and buggy. Still I did try them few weeks ago when I couldn’t make anything out of them so you can call this a progress. On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 6:35:53 PM UTC+1 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:







No
 


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Hello,
please, is there a way to use third-party speech/voice on Apple Watch?
Thanks.
Maria
    

Dňa 19. 2. 2024 o 12:41 Brandon Misch napísal(a):


that's all we have for now. rh voice is also in developement but it
doesn't work with that many languages yet.
 
On 2/19/24, 'Ming' via VIPhone  wrote:

hi! all,
any good and natrual  third party speech synthe for IOS?
I know that  we have E-speak.
but, other than that...
don't know anything.
thanks and regards,
 
 
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Re: third party speech for IOS?

2024-02-19 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Not to the best of my knowledge unfortunately. A few of us were having this 
sort of discussion on a WhatsApp group I am on only a few days ago, and saying 
about the options that are available for android when it comes to additional 
voices, compared to the limited options for iOS.

Simon, the March Merman.

> On 19 Feb 2024, at 11:06, 'Ming' via VIPhone  wrote:
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> hi! all,
> any good and natrual  third party speech synthe for IOS?
> I know that  we have E-speak.
> but, other than that...
> don't know anything.
> thanks and regards,
> 
> 
> Ming
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Re: Player app for multiple files?

2024-02-08 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Thanks, hav got vlc to get at the files at least, so hoping for the best, as it 
seems to have that ability, haven’t actually tried playing anything yet, so 
fingers crossed.

Simon, the March Merman.

> On 8 Feb 2024, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> A couple of thoughts.
> I have not tried the VLC media player on the iPhone, but that may have that 
> ability.
> 
> I do know that if you were to compress them into a zip file, Voice Dream 
> Reader would treat the zip file as an album.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
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> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Goshawk On Horseback
> Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Player app for multiple files?
> 
> Hello all, does anyone know of any player apps that can play a folder of 
> audio files, rather than just one individual file please?
> I have recently downloaded a good load of my sendspace audio files onto my 
> iPhone, but especially when I am trying to play the stuff ripped from CDs, 
> which are in their individual tracks, it is a real pain in the backside, 
> having to select and play each individual file, rather than the whole thing 
> just playing, hope that makes sense. The majority of the audio is in standard 
> MP3, but if the app could also be capable of playing .flac files as well, 
> that would be really convenient, and if by probably a bit of a longshot, it 
> could play video files as well, that would be super convenient, but I realise 
> I might be asking a bit much on that score, and it is only one of the 
> folders, that has a bit of a mix of audio and video files in it.
> 
> Simon, the March Merman.
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Player app for multiple files?

2024-02-07 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Hello all, does anyone know of any player apps that can play a folder of audio 
files, rather than just one individual file please?
I have recently downloaded a good load of my sendspace audio files onto my 
iPhone, but especially when I am trying to play the stuff ripped from CDs, 
which are in their individual tracks, it is a real pain in the backside, having 
to select and play each individual file, rather than the whole thing just 
playing, hope that makes sense. The majority of the audio is in standard MP3, 
but if the app could also be capable of playing .flac files as well, that would 
be really convenient, and if by probably a bit of a longshot, it could play 
video files as well, that would be super convenient, but I realise I might be 
asking a bit much on that score, and it is only one of the folders, that has a 
bit of a mix of audio and video files in it.

Simon, the March Merman.

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-17 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Yes, but as I think I mentioned, with my desktop machine being out of action, I 
have no way to get the stuff from my external drives and SD cards uploaded to 
it. Also, accessing things that way means that I am far too reliant on having a 
good enough connection the whole time, Which doesn’t always work for me. 

Simon, the March Merman

> On 17 Jan 2024, at 19:20, David Grossoehme  wrote:
> 
> Do you have a Drop Box account?  You could store your information on what 
> storage you have there, if you have an account.  That would cut down on the 
> amount of storage.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
>> On 1/15/2024 6:00 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> I believe you can do this fairly  with the iPhone 15 since it uses USB-C.
>> I understand there is a camera kit for Lightning based iPhones that allows 
>> one access to usb based storage, but i don’t know if that provides all the 
>> services you need.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 5:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card 
>>> reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
>>> Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive 
>>> via the iPhone please?
>>> Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on 
>>> me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD 
>>> cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I 
>>> can get the funds together to get it replaced, I am restricted to the 
>>> iPhone at the moment.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-16 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Thanks for this, hopefully the final question, what app would be best to use to access the drive or card, and copy/transfer the audio content to the iPhone please?Simon, the March Merman.On 16 Jan 2024, at 13:18, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:If you want the Apple SD Card reader, here’s the link on Amazon.Apple Lightning to SD Card Camera Reader https://amzn.eu/d/a4EJqJXMalcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 12:52, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Thanks, that sounds like it is just the job for the hard drives, now just need to sort out which particular device I need for the SD cards.Simon, the March Merman.On 16 Jan 2024, at 08:31, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:This is the device you want:Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter  Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 08:15, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:That’s what I need to know please, exactly what I need to get, thanks.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 16 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Makes no difference if it’s an iPhone 15 or not, if it’s a phone with Lightning port you just have to get the correct adapter or card reader.
 


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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.

 


Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdar


 

Malcolm Parfitt






On 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:




Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has
 its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble
 check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. 


 


Richard, USA
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On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:




Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it
 replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-16 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Thanks, that sounds like it is just the job for the hard drives, now just need to sort out which particular device I need for the SD cards.Simon, the March Merman.On 16 Jan 2024, at 08:31, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:This is the device you want:Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter  Malcolm ParfittOn 16 Jan 2024, at 08:15, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:That’s what I need to know please, exactly what I need to get, thanks.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 16 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Makes no difference if it’s an iPhone 15 or not, if it’s a phone with Lightning port you just have to get the correct adapter or card reader.
 


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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.

 


Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdar


 

Malcolm Parfitt






On 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:




Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has
 its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble
 check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. 


 


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“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:




Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it
 replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-16 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

That’s what I need to know please, exactly what I need to get, thanks.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 16 Jan 2024, at 04:11, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Makes no difference if it’s an iPhone 15 or not, if it’s a phone with Lightning port you just have to get the correct adapter or card reader.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.

 


Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdar


 

Malcolm Parfitt






On 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:




Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has
 its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble
 check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. 


 


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Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it
 replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

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Fortunately, the external hard drives I would be using do have their own power. I am using a 13 pro, not a 15 however.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.SimonSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/937503E0-0879-4320-A61C-51FBEBFC5378%40fastmail.co.uk.



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Re: Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-15 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

I’m using a 13 pro.SimonSent from my iPhoneOn 15 Jan 2024, at 23:58, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:If you’re using an iPhone 15 series then the following will allow you to do what you want.Apple USB-C Digital AV Multi-port Adaptor - White (Latest Model) https://amzn.eu/d/esxPdarMalcolm ParfittOn 15 Jan 2024, at 23:01, Richard Turner  wrote:Yes, there are adapters for sd cards and there are adapters with a USB a port that have a place for the charger for the iPhone so your iPhone is on AC power and if the hard Drive has its own power, you can connect it through the USB port and r,∀ it. It will likely not be a very fast connection, but should work. Given the changes to use the USB c for the iPhone 15, you will want to cdouble check what is available. Perhaps calling Apple. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jan 15, 2024, at 2:33 PM, Goshawk On Horseback  wrote:Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, that will work with the iPhone please?Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via the iPhone please?Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the funds together to get it replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.SimonSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/937503E0-0879-4320-A61C-51FBEBFC5378%40fastmail.co.uk.



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Hard drive or SD card access via an iPhone?

2024-01-15 Thread Goshawk On Horseback

Hello all, does anyone know if there is any such thing, as an SD card reader, 
that will work with the iPhone please?
Also, is there any way to access a Windows formatted external hard drive via 
the iPhone please?
Asking these questions, as my windows desktop has decided to go toes up on me, 
and would really like to access a lot of audio, that is stored on SD cards or 
external hard drives, but unless I can get it fixed, or until I can get the 
funds together to get it replaced, I am restricted to the iPhone at the moment.

Simon

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Re: To swim with apple watch or not? That is the question

2023-08-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

apart from the watch ultra, which I believe one can actually dive with. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: To swim with apple watch or not? That is the question

  Swimming with it is not an issue , these watches are designed to withstand 
water pressure for recreational swimming, just do not dive with it.. 

  On Friday, August 25, 2023 at 7:19:11 PM UTC+8 real...@verizon.net wrote:

As long a you put Water Lock on you should have no problem. I think Water 
Lock goes on automatically when you select Swimming as your workout, or you can 
do it in the Control Center on the watch. 

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Hi all 

Own an apple watch SE 5th generation. 

Think I already know the answer but has anyone done a swimming workout with 
your apple watch and bricked the device? 

My workout Routine if a, 50 meters outdoor pool and the session lasts for 1 
hour. 

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Re: To swim with apple watch or not? That is the question

2023-08-24 Thread goshawk on horseback

I regularly swim with my watch 5, and apart from the screen acting up a bit 
when wet at times, have never had any problems.


Simon


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Subject: To swim with apple watch or not? That is the question



Hi all

Own an apple watch SE 5th generation.

Think I already know the answer but has anyone done a swimming workout 
with your apple watch and bricked the device?


My workout Routine if a, 50 meters outdoor pool and the session lasts for 
1 hour.


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Re: A new Screen Reader, the "More Responsive Talkback", for helping people.

2023-08-24 Thread goshawk on horseback

I forwarded your message to a few android lists, so hopefully you will have got 
some better responses from those. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Song Ji 
  To: VIPhone 
  Sent: Friday, August 25, 2023 4:22 AM
  Subject: Re: A new Screen Reader, the "More Responsive Talkback", for helping 
people.

  Hi, sorry I thought this group was for both android and iPhones. Yeah exactly 
this reader is for android phones only :(

  On Thursday, August 24, 2023 at 7:13:39 PM UTC+8 aa...@roadrunner.com wrote:

Hi Song,

Isn't talk back for Android phones? This is a iPhone/apple list.

On 8/24/2023 4:18 AM, Song Ji wrote:

  Hi guys,

  Hope you are doing great today!

  We are a team called Prudence, and we’ve built this product, the Prudence 
Screen Reader, as a "more responsive Talkback”. This new-generation-screen 
reader is for making smartphones easily accessible for all visually impaired 
people, with perfect screen reading function and multiple ways of interface, 
such as gesture touch and voice commands. 

  The screen reader is totally free, welcome to download and try!
  Google play store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.prudence.reader&pcampaignid=web_share

  We also provide the link to directly download the apk package, for those 
who are unaccessible to google play store:

  http://www.appshubforvisuallyimpaired.com/apks/psr_001.apk

  We welcome to every friend to get in touch with us, for sharing 
suggestions and ideas!

  Our official website: http://www.appshubforvisuallyimpaired.com/

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Re: Headphone recommendations, please

2023-08-18 Thread goshawk on horseback

if you are looking for good audio, I wouldn't recommend these. to be fair, 
they are good for being able to have your cake and eat it, as because they 
are bone conduction ones, you can still use your ears for hearing other 
things around you, but it is like the old saying, "jack of all trades, 
master of none".
for really good audio, my choice would be the bowers and wilkins 
PX9headphones.
I use the wired ones, and you can have an iPhone, or standard 3.5 cable, but 
I believe there is also a wireless version of them available now also.


Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "Michael McKay" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Headphone recommendations, please


Greetings Amy, and list members:

I find for my own use and best results so far the use of the Aftershokz 
wireless Bluetooth headset seems to be the best for me. I can answer calls, 
and dictate text messages through the headset.


Simply go online to The website aftershokz.com, and there may be at 
aftershokz.ca for Canadiens I have gone through two of their wireless bone 
conduction Bluetooth headsets and I’m on the second set now. Hope this helps 
please let me know.


All the best!
Michael G. McKay BA, ‘05.
Email: mgmckay1...@gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 18, 2023, at 15:13, Amy Ruell  wrote:

Hello,
I am looking for two types of no earbuds please. The first is a set of 
headphones without a microphone that can be used with the victor reader 
stream or a PC. No microphone necessary.
The second kind of headphones I am looking for is an excellent set that I 
could connect either to my phone or to a computer to improve my audio 
output. Thanks very much for any assistance.

Amy.

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Re: best OCR app for reading video game titles?

2023-07-17 Thread goshawk on horseback

perfect OCR, docScanner, and text detective. 

Simon 

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  From: Richard Turner 
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2023 12:59 AM
  Subject: Re: best OCR app for reading video game titles?

  It might help if you told us which ones you have tried.

  Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com

On Jul 11, 2023, at 4:39 PM, goshawk on horseback 
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hello all, 
probably a bit of a long shot, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. 
does anyone know of a good OCR app, for reading video game titles? by that, 
I am talking about those on the disks or cartridges of console games, such as 
snes, N64, gameboy advance, xbox one, etc. 
so far, I have found many OCR apps have been unable to read a lot of 
titles, at a guess, I would say owing to very small writing, and strange colour 
combinations used in them, so wondered if there were any OCR apps that would be 
better at this sort of thing. 

Simon 

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Re: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

2023-07-11 Thread goshawk on horseback

being a real radio nut as well, that is what I would very probably also do. 
if you don't want to go through all the hassle of getting that licence 
however, there are sets that are licence free, such as CB sets, those on the 
49MHZ band, and those on the 446MHZ band.
not sure if there are any regulations about using such sets in airports 
however, and you wouldn't get the echolink app access either.


Simon


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From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS


Mark, being the ham radio op that I am, I can't resist the temptation to 
suggest you get a ham radio license.  That would enable you to use a "handy 
talky" which would allow for great communication.  The two of you might have 
been able to use an app called echolink.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 1:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Wishing for a Simple WalkieTalkie App for iOS

Hello Everyone,

Earlier this weekend I and a friend were up in the San Francisco airport 
waiting on a flight back to Los Angeles.


As we had quite a bit of time before our flight, we decided to explore the 
airport, separately, and meet back at the gate after a While.


I thought this would be a great opportunity to actually use the Walkie 
Talkie app on our Apple Watches to stay in touch.


It didn't work as well as I had hoped.  For one thing, there were so many 
people crowded in the airport that I couldn't hear the speaker on the watch 
when she tried to reach me.  Add the ambient noise of all the people, 
coupled with the endless and continuous flight announcements, and, for me, 
at least, it was an impossible situation.  I had to hold my wrist against my 
ear and I felt silly doing it and my arm got tired, very quickly.


Second, when I tried to use my Airpods to connect directly to the watch???
Well, let's just say that my VoiceOver / Walkie Talkie app experience was 
not a good one.


Although I have used the walkie talkie app many, many times, when at home, 
this was the first time I had tried using it out in the wild, as it were.


She told me that she could not hear me on her watch, either, for the same 
reason.  Now she has quote, normal, quote hearing, relative to mine; so I 
know that the problem was not completely owing to my poor hearing.


So, the question:

Can you recommend a simple push-to-talk walkie talkie app that will work on 
iPhone?


When I search the app store I see so many but really have no idea of which 
one is best for VoiceOver users.


Now I just want a simple app that works as much like the walkie talkie app 
on the watch but, of course, works on the phone.


I read, somewhere, that Microsoft Team has a pretty good walkie talkie app 
feature but I'm not certain if it will work in a non-enterprise scenario, 
between only 2 people.


Just so you know, we ended up using text messages to stay in contact in the 
airport but it would have been nice to use a more direct voice interface.


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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best OCR app for reading video game titles?

2023-07-11 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
probably a bit of a long shot, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. 
does anyone know of a good OCR app, for reading video game titles? by that, I 
am talking about those on the disks or cartridges of console games, such as 
snes, N64, gameboy advance, xbox one, etc. 
so far, I have found many OCR apps have been unable to read a lot of titles, at 
a guess, I would say owing to very small writing, and strange colour 
combinations used in them, so wondered if there were any OCR apps that would be 
better at this sort of thing. 

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Re: Power Bank?

2023-03-30 Thread goshawk on horseback

same here.

Simon

- Original Message - 
From: "lenron brown" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Power Bank?

I would rather have the big battery with a few ports. I have been
trying to find something with more than one usb C.

On 3/29/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I assume by powerbank  you refer to an expernal battery. As Kelly pointed
out, you can get something small which will recharge an iPhone fully once 
or
maybe twice if  you only charge when you are down to 40%. As to the type 
it

really makes little difference as all external batteries have one or more
USB plug and  you can plug in your regular Lightning cable and use it on 
any
of your iPhones or you can plug in your Apple Watch charging cable with 
the

round magnetic charger for the watch on the other end.
The only difference is that larger capacity batteries usually have more 
than

1 plug and can charge 2 ore more devices at the same time.
Also, if your Apple Watch charger has a USB-C end which means a small plug
almost like a Lightning plug, then you may want to look for a power bank
which has at least one USB-C plug-in. You can get iPhone Lightning 
charging

cables which also have Usb-C on the other end so ifi you found a battery
with just a single USB-C plug in then that would be something you have to
get.
I have a small Anker battery which is sort of like what Kelly described
although I think it is 6000 Mah and definitely a bit fatter, but it's also
older so maybe skinner versions are out there now.
I also have a rather expensive Hyper Juice battery which I think is 26,000
Mah and it has 4 USB-C plug-ins and it can even charge my Lenovo laptop. 
But
it's not what you would most likely want to carry around on a daily bases, 
I

often use it at home to charge various headsets because for something like
that  you can literally use it for weeks or months without having to
recharge it. I also pack it when my wife and I go to the Philippines where 
I
might be in places where sometimes the power is out or unreliable and 
where

it's nice to have a battery which can recharge both of our phones, Apple
Watches and headsets multiple times.
Anker is a good brand and they have everything from small 3000 Mah 
batteries

to the large 20,000 or even higher batteries, they are easily available on
Amazon and you get a quality item for a reasonable price.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Fazil

M.
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Power Bank?

Hi, Group.
I am looking for a power bank but I don’t know what I should search for.
I want a power bank for my iPhone12, Apple Watch SE and iPhone8.
What should I search for on Amazon, Canada (amazon.ca)?
Thanks!
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Re: Power Bank?

2023-03-30 Thread goshawk on horseback

you can get it from at least 2 UK suppliers, computer room services, or: 
https://tairatech.com/products/energrid-power-bank/

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rafał Marzec 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 11:46 AM
  Subject: Re: Power Bank?

  I’m just wondering are they shipping  to UK as well?

  Sent from my iPhone

On 30 Mar 2023, at 10:16 am, Dennis Long  wrote:

I highly recommend this power bank.  I use and  it works well and you know 
how much battery you have left.

https://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46&products_id=379

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Power Bank?

Hi, Group.

I am looking for a power bank but I don’t know what I should search for.

I want a power bank for my iPhone12, Apple Watch SE and iPhone8.

What should I search for on Amazon, Canada (amazon.ca)?

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Re: transferring all the contacts from a Nokia N82 mobile to an se iphone via bluetooth,

2023-02-26 Thread goshawk on horseback

I used the phone copy app for this, when I got my first iPhone at least 11 
years ago now. but whether you could still get the nokia version of it, is 
another story. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 2:31 AM
  Subject: transferring all the contacts from a Nokia N82 mobile to an se 
iphone via bluetooth,

  Hi 

  I need to transferr all the contacts i have on a Nokia N82 mobile to an se 
iphone via blutooth, can anyone explain to me how to do it please? 

  Thanks in advance 

  Anthony 

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are there any replacements for these apps please?

2023-01-17 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
does anyone know of any working replacements for the apps like "awareness", or 
"uListen"? 
for those who haven't heard of these, they were very handy apps, that would let 
you use your iPhone's mic to hear things around you, when using headphones. 
they were handy for things like listening to an audiobook, or playing your 
iPhone games whilst on a train journey, and you would still be able to hear 
things like the station announcements, or when the trolley comes round so that 
you could grab a beer for example. 
like so many good apps, they are both now defunked, so am wondering if there 
are any replacement apps, as I have a few long train journeys on the cards for 
this year. 

Simon 

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Re: stopping dictation

2022-11-29 Thread goshawk on horseback

am having the same issue here. 

Simon 

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  From: Katrina Anderson 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 4:13 AM
  Subject: RE: stopping dictation

  Since IOS 16.1, the 2-finger double tap to stop dictation frequently starts 
music.  I eventually can stop the music via Hey Siri, but it usually requires 
multiple attempts…possibly because Siri can’t hear me over the music.  I have 
reported the problem, and am hoping it will be soon fixed.

  Katrina

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022 3:43 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: stopping dictation

  Hi,

  I’ve noticed something very  recently and think it came with an IOS 16 
upgrade.  Wondering if it’s just me.  I often dictate using the dictate button 
to the left on the keyboard.  I realize that I can one finger double tap to 
stop dictation, assuming that focus hasn’t moved from that button, but it seems 
to me that I’ve been using a two-finger double tap for years.  As of late, 
doing this gesture out of muscle memory often starts the music player on my 
phone. Even if I do another two finger double tap to stop the  music, I’m still 
in dictation mode.  I found it easiest to  open the ap switcher and go back to 
the app, which disrupted dictation  for me.  So, does anyone else use a 
two-finger double tap to stop dictation and notice this as a change?  Either 
that, or my latest birthday has send my brain into some weird memory void.
For now, I’m trying to retrain myself to the one finger double tap.

  Robin on an  SE 2020 running IOS 16.1.1.

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unzip apps?

2022-10-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
am hoping someone here can help me to find the most useful unzip app please. 
as there are quite a few of them, so what I am looking for, if possible, is as 
follows: 
fully accessible/usable with voice-over. 
should be able to handle zip files with folders and subfolders, as most of what 
I will be unzipping will be audio books, sets of audio books, sets of radio or 
tv series, and such, (hope that makes sense).
it would be desirable if the app could handle different formats. at a guess, 
most of the files will probably be the standard .zip ones, but sometimes there 
may be others in other formats. 
I am not a budget freak, so am not bothered if it is a paid or free one, as 
long as it hopefully meets my requirements. 

Simon 

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Re: iOS 16.02 is available with VO fixes

2022-09-23 Thread goshawk on horseback

in my case, youtube, whatsapp, ebay, any in truth.

Simon

- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: iOS 16.02 is available with VO fixes

I will triple check later today.  I should have some notifications showing 
up.  But I'm pretty sure I have been able to double tap and have the correct 
app open to deal with the notification.

What kinds of notifications are you finding won't open?

Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
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🦅

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Richard:

Did that.  All app settings are correct.  Still not working.

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Re: iOS 16.02 is available with VO fixes

2022-09-23 Thread goshawk on horseback

same on my 13pro.

Simon

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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 16.02 is available with VO fixes

I have a SE 2020, and can not open notifications from the notification 
center.

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Re: notifications not activating since upgrade.

2022-09-17 Thread goshawk on horseback

thanks, that was what I meant. would you happen to have UK details please? 

Simon 

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  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 2:17 AM
  Subject: RE: notifications not activating since upgrade.

  Don’t know how to do what? If you mean reporting an accessibility issue to 
Apple then just send an email to accessibil...@aple.com or call 1-877-204-3930 
if you’re in the US.

  --

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

  Chaltain at Outlook

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 6:55 PM
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  Importance: High

  unfortunately, not all of us know how to do that straight off. 

  Simon 

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From: davycupp...@gmail.com 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 7:21 PM

Subject: RE: notifications not activating since upgrade.

Good to mention and report bugs here but please please do do report 
to Apple accessibility and do it all!

Davy 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens goshawk on 
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Urgentie: Hoog

thanks, but that isn't working for me. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 3:06 PM

  Subject: Re: notifications not activating since upgrade.

  Hello, 

  Yes others are seeing issues like this. Try double tapping on the 
notification twice. That seems to work for me when I do it once and the 
notification does not open the first time.

  Greg Wocher

On Sep 14, 2022, at 7:28 AM, goshawk on horseback 
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hello all, 

is anyone else having an issue where notifications won't activate, 
since upgrading to IOS16? 

as it is happening on both of my iPhones, and is rather annoying, to 
say the least. 

Simon 

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Re: notifications not activating since upgrade.

2022-09-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

thanks, but that isn't working for me. 

Simon 

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  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2022 3:06 PM
  Subject: Re: notifications not activating since upgrade.

  Hello,
  Yes others are seeing issues like this. Try double tapping on the 
notification twice. That seems to work for me when I do it once and the 
notification does not open the first time.

  Greg Wocher

On Sep 14, 2022, at 7:28 AM, goshawk on horseback 
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hello all, 
is anyone else having an issue where notifications won't activate, since 
upgrading to IOS16? 
as it is happening on both of my iPhones, and is rather annoying, to say 
the least. 

Simon 

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notifications not activating since upgrade.

2022-09-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
is anyone else having an issue where notifications won't activate, since 
upgrading to IOS16? 
as it is happening on both of my iPhones, and is rather annoying, to say the 
least. 

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Re: Ringtone apps

2022-08-17 Thread goshawk on horseback

same here, I also prefer to make my own, as then, one can have it exactly how 
one wants it, and with out forking out. 

Simon 

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 1:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Ringtone apps

  I have no idea other than the app description in the app store mentions 
ringtones.
  I create my own rather than use an app.

  Richard
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On Aug 17, 2022, at 5:28 AM, chaim biberfeld  wrote:

I just downloaded the app. Are there any free ringtones? Seems very hard 
to navigate.

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349

thegototherapist.com 

  On Aug 17, 2022, at 5:57 AM, joediner...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yes, but I thought it didn’t have ring tones on IOS just Wallpaper…mind 
you I have not looked at that app in a couple of years. 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 9:38 PM
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  Subject: Re: Ringtone apps

  Zedge is also on iOS:

  https://apps.apple.com/us/app/zedge-wallpapers/id1086101495

  Richard

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Hi everyone,

I have someone who has moved from Android to IOS, and they used to use 
the Zedge app, which provided a significant amount of free ring tones. What are 
some comparable apps on the IOS platform.

Thanks,

Joe

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Re: trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 64 bit.

2022-07-17 Thread goshawk on horseback

I would agree, I've also got the 13pro, although I have the 1tb version, as 
tend to keep a fair few audiobooks, radio dramas and such on it. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2022 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: trying to deside on what phone to upgrade to from the I Phone 8 
64 bit.

  As another totally blind, VoiceOver user, I love the 13 Pro. Great battery 
life. I have over 12000 songs and use the camera primarily for OCR scanning, 
but am counting on the apps that will take more advantage of the LIDAR feature 
that is only with the Pro models of the 12 and 13. Like the door detection 
coming in iOS 16.
  I paid the money for the 256 GB memory so I would not have to think about 
adding to my music collaction. I still have over 130 GB free.
  I have reasonably large hands and the size fits me quite nicely.
  With the iPhone 14 coming out this fall, you should start to see deals on the 
13 phones, assuming you don't want to wait and get the 14. I went from the SE 
2020 to the 13 Pro last year, and probably won't update again until at least 
the iPhone 16 or 17 have come around.
  Things like amount of memory, only you can decide how much you might need.
  HTH,

  Richard
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Hi all. I would like the lists thoughts. I am running a I phone 8 with 64 
bit running ios15.5 and am able to upgrade it. I am trying to find out what I 
should upgrade it to. I am blind and am a exclusive voice over user. I have 
herd different things about the newer I phones that are out now like the I 
phone 13 I phone 13 max and others like the I phone SE3. some things I am 
thinking about are battery life and storage space. As some one who is blind I 
don’t really cair that mutch about the camra since I use it some times to take 
picks but not that offen. I would like to know what the lists thoughts on what 
I should upgrade it to as some one who uses voice over only and the camra and 
other things not that mutch. Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

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Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.

2022-05-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

have been having this aggravation also, and it has been driving me mad over 
this last week or so. does anyone actually know what caused this issue?


Simon


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From: "joseph hudson" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: Dictation does not work in Facebook.


Hello, I and several other people have noticed this. But I saw as of last 
night, that it was fixed now.



On May 18, 2022, at 7:40 AM, Pete Nalda  wrote:

Hello,
Just wondering anyone else has noticed this. I have an iPhone 12 promax 
with iOS 154.1.


Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

2022-03-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

not sure how to get the link, 
developer is Summit Point Software LLC. 

Simon 

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  From: Richard Turner 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 11:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  Simon, could you share the link and developer name?

  Richard
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On Mar 24, 2022, at 3:37 PM, goshawk on horseback 
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that's strange, as it works for me, and is completely accessible. 

Simon 

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  okay, so I downloaded the timeChime, but I can't get it to work because 
it is not completely blind accessible. Does not seem to highlight my choices as 
in stop and start Chime etc.

  Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
  Private Practice
  917-902-3349 

  thegototherapist.com 

On Mar 24, 2022, at 12:03 PM, goshawk on horseback 
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I don't know about speaking them, but I use an app called timeChime, 
which one can set different sounds in for the quarter, half, and hour. 

Simon 

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  From: chaim biberfeld 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 4:00 PM
  Subject: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  Hi everyone. I had an iPhone app called Chime That would announce the 
time on thI that would announce the time on the quarter hour. hour but it seems 
to have been discontinued or changed  becoming  an unusable app with 
advertisements etc. does anyone know of a way to get my iPhone to speak the 
quarter hour etc.? Thank you

  Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
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  917-902-3349 

  thegototherapist.com 

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Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

2022-03-24 Thread goshawk on horseback

that's strange, as it works for me, and is completely accessible. 

Simon 

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  From: chaim biberfeld 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  okay, so I downloaded the timeChime, but I can't get it to work because it is 
not completely blind accessible. Does not seem to highlight my choices as in 
stop and start Chime etc.

  Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
  Private Practice
  917-902-3349

  thegototherapist.com 

On Mar 24, 2022, at 12:03 PM, goshawk on horseback 
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I don't know about speaking them, but I use an app called timeChime, which 
one can set different sounds in for the quarter, half, and hour. 

Simon 

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 4:00 PM
  Subject: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  Hi everyone. I had an iPhone app called Chime That would announce the 
time on thI that would announce the time on the quarter hour. hour but it seems 
to have been discontinued or changed  becoming  an unusable app with 
advertisements etc. does anyone know of a way to get my iPhone to speak the 
quarter hour etc.? Thank you

  Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
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  917-902-3349 

  thegototherapist.com 

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Re: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

2022-03-24 Thread goshawk on horseback

I don't know about speaking them, but I use an app called timeChime, which one 
can set different sounds in for the quarter, half, and hour. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: chaim biberfeld 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 4:00 PM
  Subject: Quarter hour time announcement for iPhone

  Hi everyone. I had an iPhone app called Chime That would announce the time on 
thI that would announce the time on the quarter hour. hour but it seems to have 
been discontinued or changed  becoming  an unusable app with advertisements 
etc. does anyone know of a way to get my iPhone to speak the quarter hour etc.? 
Thank you

  Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
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  917-902-3349

  thegototherapist.com 

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location/find me apps?

2021-12-16 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
does anyone know of any good apps, preferably for the apple watch, that could 
help a selected person find me? 
if this sounds like a rather odd question, I should perhaps explain. 
I went on a lovely sea swim yesterday, and had a super time in the water. the 
issue I had however, was that I did encounter a lot of side ways drift, which 
being totally blind, I was not very aware of, and which when I came out, did 
make it quite difficult for the super person who very nicely enabled me to get 
that swim, to find me again. fortunately, we had set a time for me being in the 
water, and even more fortunately, there were quite a few fishermen about, who 
had seen me at various points, so who could direct her towards me, and make 
things a heck of a lot easier than they otherwise would have been for her. 
so it would be good to have a watch app, that could have told her where I was 
in relation to her, (hope that makes sense). 
if there isn't such an app for the apple watch alone, I could use a phone app, 
as I do have a toe float which I can take the iPhone in whilst swimming, but if 
at all possible, would prefer one that works purely on the apple watch, again, 
hope that makes sense. 

Simon, the march Merman. 

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Re: iOS 15.1.1 is out

2021-11-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

my 13pro did give me a notification about it. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 12:42 AM
  Subject: RE: iOS 15.1.1 is out

  Yeha and it instlls with out letting you know,

  At least it did on my 13pm.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cris 
Ali
  Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 10:48 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; CHELA Robles 
  Subject: Re: iOS 15.1.1 is out

  iOS 15.1.1 came out last week. However, it came out only for iPhones 12 and 
13. Since you have iPhone eight, you are not going to have it. Do not wait for 
it.

  Cheers,

  On 11/25/21 3:56 PM, CHELA Robles wrote:

I do not see the update yet for my iPhone 8 plus but it doesn’t mean it’s 
not there I’m sure it’s going to be there eventually. So what’s new in this 
version?

Sent from my iPhone

  On Nov 25, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

  Just a heads up to let folks know. 

  Alan Lemly 

  Sent from my iPhone with Outlook for iOS

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Re: new iPhone

2021-11-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

I know what you mean, as had the same issue with my old iPhone X and my new 
13pro. yes, there should be some sort of better audio and/or tactile feedback 
to help us with things like this, and the same when one gets a new apple watch, 
as one can often have the same problem then as well. 

Simon 


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  Subject: new iPhone


  Hi all:

  Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my 
8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO would 
give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the 13 pro 
max.


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Re: Recordings From DropBox

2021-11-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

alternatively, if one has the dropbox app, one can double tap and hold, then 
select "share" from the menu that should come up, then select "export file" 
then find the option that suits you best.
I only just found this out yesterday, and it enabled me to at long last, get 
a bunch of videos from my pc on to my iPhone, that I have been trying to get 
on to it for over 2 years now.


Simon


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Subject: RE: Recordings From DropBox


If you create a Dropbox link it will have a 0 at the end by default. If that 
link is a music or audio file and another person clicks it the audio/music 
will start playing right away.
You can change this behaviour by first pasting the link into Notepad and to 
then delete the 0 at the end and replace it with a 1. Then highlight the 
link again, copy it and paste into an email or whatever else you use to 
share it.
When somebody receives it now the file will download instead of playing or 
opening.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele

Sent: November 13, 2021 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Recordings From DropBox



Hi Steve,

I also use Dropbox. I find that once a link is shared, whoever receives it 
can download whatever content is in it. Hth.



Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194


On Nov 12, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Steve Cook  wrote:

Hi All,

I hope someone can help with this. I use DropBox and I send a person a 
link from my DropBox folder to download a recording of a meeting. They 
attempt to access the recording on their iPhone. How would they go about 
downloading the entire recording to their iPhone?


Thanks for your help!

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Re: Recordings From DropBox

2021-11-13 Thread goshawk on horseback

I think that only lets one stream the file, not actually download it, unless 
I missed something last time I tried this.


Simon


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To: 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Recordings From DropBox


Hello Steve,

If this person has Doopbox,, it will be easy. Only click the link open to 
see the file or something like that.

Hope it helps

Lyne


Le 12 nov. 2021 à 17:46, Steve Cook  a écrit :

Hi All,

I hope someone can help with this. I use DropBox and I send a person a 
link from my DropBox folder to download a recording of a meeting. They 
attempt to access the recording on their iPhone. How would they go about 
downloading the entire recording to their iPhone?


Thanks for your help!

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Re: Off topic, sorry

2021-11-11 Thread goshawk on horseback

I would agree with this! that particular group owner definitely has a Hitler 
issue, and enjoys being able to chuck there weight around.


Simon


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic, sorry


Yeah definitely sounds like you've been banned. Who knows what you may 
have done. Sorry to say it but that Owner is not very friendly. If you 
want, you can come over to Blind Techies



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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

2021-10-31 Thread goshawk on horseback

 to 
the
title field where I could now type in what I wanted and pressing enter 
saved
it, a few seconds later I would hear the tritone from iTunes which 
indicates

an operation has finished. I repeated this with the other 4 tones and they
are now on my phone.

This should have taken me a few minutes, but while I did explore a bit, I
spend probably at least 10 or 15 minutes figuring out how I would get 
where,

I could do it much faster now, but it really should be a lot easier than
this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: October 30, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Well, there is a very tedious, but good app that is a paid app called 
WALTR
Pro that for Windows users requires that iTunes be present on the 
computer,

but you don’t have to deal with iTunes.

The issue is, the program is not easily dealt with.  Because someone else
asked for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of 
the

basics of transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for
transferring zipped audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I
have used it for ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know 
the

steps.

I created a Demos page off my main page.
If you are interested it is:
http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2FDEMOS.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8556eb1ad2bd4ce82f1f08d99c8c6100%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637712949010122584%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=thIOi6MBQh0BqXWKaIesRrTnDuukt7iexJDuy2bgKOk%3D&reserved=0>

HTH,


Richard
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone
without using iTunes.

Kay Malmquist
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to
begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to
the new.
You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without
using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through 
iTunes

any more.
Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but 
if

you cannot find them, let me know.


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it."

-- Jane Wagner





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On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback
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if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just
transfer across, like everything else.

Simon


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From: Dennis Long<mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM
Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so 
how?

I see my tones in where you change your r

Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

2021-10-31 Thread goshawk on horseback

else 
asked for it, I did about an 8 minute demo that I put on my web site of the 
basics of transferring something to the phone.  I use it mostly for 
transferring zipped audio or just mp3 files to Voice Dream Reader.  But I have 
used it for ringtones and it works quickly and easily once you know the steps.

 

I created a Demos page off my main page.

If you are interested it is:

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it.” – Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kay 
Malmquist
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

 

I would love to know how to sync ring tones from my computer to my phone 
without using iTunes.


Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

 

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  - Original Message - 

  From: Richard Turner 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:00 AM

  Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

   

  If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to 
begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to the 
new. 

  You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without 
using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through iTunes any 
more.

  Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but 
if you cannot find them, let me know.

   

   

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
it." -- Jane Wagner 



   

   

   

   

  website:  www.turner42.com

   

  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

   

On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

 

if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just 
transfer across, like everything else. 

 

Simon 

 

 

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  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM

  Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

   

  Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if 
so how?  I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is 
appreciated.

   

  Dennis Long

  Sent from my iPhone SE 

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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

2021-10-30 Thread goshawk on horseback

would like to know how to do this please, as I make quite a few of my own 
tones, so if I can find an easier way to copy them from the PC to the iPhone, 
with out all that fannying about with iTunes, it would be a big help, thanks. 

Simon 

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  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  If you didn't do the wireless setup from your old phone to the new one to 
begin with, you cannot direct transfer the ringtones from the old phone to the 
new. 
  You can copy them from your computer directly onto the new phone without 
using the sync service of iTunes. In fact, tones do not sync through iTunes any 
more.
  Ii If you want to do that, I I think the steps will be easy to find, but if 
you cannot find them, let me know.

  Richard
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-- Jane Wagner 

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  (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)

On Oct 30, 2021, at 6:21 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just 
transfer across, like everything else. 

Simon 

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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM
  Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so 
how?  I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

  Dennis Long
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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

2021-10-30 Thread goshawk on horseback

if you set up your new phone from your old one, they should all just transfer 
across, like everything else. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 9:31 AM
  Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  
I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

  Dennis Long
  Sent from my iPhone SE 

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Re: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

2021-10-30 Thread goshawk on horseback

they certainly did for me, including the home made ones. this was very 
recently, when I upgraded from the X to the 13pro. 
they all transferred over with no problems. 

Simon 

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  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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  Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2021 10:48 AM
  Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  One thing I am not sure of right now if ringtones transfer if you set up your 
new phone from an old one with the quick/direct transfer feature.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: October 30, 2021 2:35 AM
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  Subject: RE: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  As far as I know ringtones still can only be transferred to a new phone using 
iTunes or third party programs like Waltr2.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
  Sent: October 30, 2021 1:31 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Transfering ring tones from old iPhone to new phone

  Is there a way to transfer my ring tones from my SE to my 13 pro if so how?  
I see my tones in where you change your ring tones.  Help is appreciated.

  Dennis Long

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need a replacement recording app please.

2021-10-23 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
have just upgraded my iPhone, only to find that my go to recording app, is no 
longer available. so need a replacement, with the following features: 
1, makes high quality stereo recordings. 
2, auto upload of recordings to dropbox. 
3, share recordings via whatsapp. 
4, completely accessible with voice-over. 

Simon 

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Re: Optimize battery charging?

2021-10-14 Thread goshawk on horseback

I also turn it off, as when I am going out on my horse, or open water swimming, 
I like my iPhone to have a full charge, and this feature often gets in the way 
of that. 

Simon 

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  Subject: RE: Optimize battery charging?

  I turn it off.  If you have the same schedule maybe its good but I never saw 
the point of it.

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  Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 3:01 PM
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  Subject: Optimize battery charging?

  Hi all,

  Optimize battery charging is on on my iPhone.  Should it be?  Every once in a 
while, a message pops up saying that optimize battery charging is on and the 
charge will finish at such and such a time.  Why is this and why should I leave 
this on?  Thanks much.

  Kay Malmquist
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Re: is there a way to turn off optimize battery charging?

2021-10-04 Thread goshawk on horseback

personally, I will be turning it off, as if I am going out on my horse for
example, I prefer to have a full charge in my phone, and don't want this
obstructive feature getting in the way by holding up charging the way it does.

Simon

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Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 7:52 PM
Subject: RE: is there a way to turn off optimize battery charging?

I prefer it on as it extends the life of your battery

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: October 4, 2021 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Should we keep optimize battery charging on or off?

Thanks!

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2021 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: is there a way to turn off optimize battery charging?

Settings > Battery

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Importance: High

is there any way to turn off that optimise battery charging thing, as it is
often being a real pest when I am trying to get the iPhone to charge fully
before going out.

Simon

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is there a way to turn off optimize battery charging?

2021-10-04 Thread goshawk on horseback

is there any way to turn off that optimise battery charging thing, as it is 
often being a real pest when I am trying to get the iPhone to charge fully 
before going out. 

Simon 

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Re: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone

2021-09-21 Thread goshawk on horseback

on both of my iPhones, which are both iPhone X, I didn't need to change any 
settings, I just ran the update, and then let the phone sit plugged in for a 
few hours, so that it could do anything else it wanted to with out outside 
interference, and that seems to have done the trick.
I don't know about the wallet issue, as so far I don't used that feature, 
but the app switcher is working as normal for example.
as an aside, I also ran the watch OS 8 update on both of my apple watch 
series 5 watches.

hope this helps you.

Simon


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Subject: the best settings to make IOS 15 work good on your phone



Hi like A let of us hear have 14.8 on my phone.

Thinking about upgrading to 15 now or should I wait?

And when I do what are the best way to set up IOS 15 to give me the best 
results?


Also after I update should I power off my phone and restart it after 
updating it and if so for how long should I leave it powered off after 
updating it to restart it?


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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

2021-09-09 Thread goshawk on horseback

just a quick update, this issue now seems to have corrected itself, and 
voicemail is working properly again on both of my iPhones. 
still no idea what caused it, but all's well that ends well. 

Simon 

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  Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

  a quick web search for International numbers for Apple Accessibility yielded 
the following: 
  AppleAccessibility Support over the phone in English, use these numbers: 
United States: 1-877-204-3930. United Kingdom.: 0800 107 6285. Australia: (61) 
1-300-365-083. To contact Apple Accessibility Support over the phone in China 
mainland, use this number: 400-619-8141 (Mandarin only) 

  Richard 
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On Aug 10, 2021, at 12:01 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

is there a UK version/number please?

Simon

- Original Message - From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

The main English speaking number is 877-204-3930
That is from the U.S., but I think can be called from outside the country. 
They are open 24/7.

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would you happen to have any contact details for them please?

Simon

- Original Message - From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

  I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail

  which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

  On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback 

  wrote:

hello all,

is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the

latest IOS update?

as I am, on both of my iPhones.

if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and

all

I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the

home

gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the

phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops 
working

and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the

phone app crashed or something.

they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each

phone,

always with the same result.

Simon

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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

2021-08-15 Thread goshawk on horseback

can't seem to find that app, are you sure it is available in the UK?

Simon

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From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback  
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and 
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the 
home

gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each 
phone,

always with the same result.

Simon

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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

2021-08-10 Thread goshawk on horseback

is there a UK version/number please?

Simon

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From: "Richard Turner" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

The main English speaking number is 877-204-3930
That is from the U.S., but I think can be called from outside the country. 
They are open 24/7.

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would you happen to have any contact details for them please?

Simon

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From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback 
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the
home
gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each
phone,
always with the same result.

Simon

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Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

2021-08-10 Thread goshawk on horseback

would you happen to have any contact details for them please?

Simon

- Original Message - 
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

I'd try calling apple accessibility.  Also, try an app called you mail
which is a lot better then the phone's regular voice mail.

On 8/10/21, goshawk on horseback  
wrote:

hello all,
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the
latest IOS update?
as I am, on both of my iPhones.
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and 
all
I can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the 
home

gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the
phone app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working
and the phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the
phone app crashed or something.
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each 
phone,

always with the same result.

Simon

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voicemail not working since latest IOS update?

2021-08-10 Thread goshawk on horseback

hello all, 
is anyone else having trouble with the phone's voicemail tab since the latest 
IOS update? 
as I am, on both of my iPhones. 
if I select the voicemail tab, the screen all but stops responding, and all I 
can get to speak are the top of screen status bar items. if I do the home 
gesture, that works, and things start working, until I go back in to the phone 
app, when the same thing happens before the phone app stops working and the 
phone goes back to the home screen, so can only assume that the phone app 
crashed or something. 
they are both iPhone x, and have tried this at least 3 times on each phone, 
always with the same result. 

Simon 

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Re: Not getting notifications

2021-08-05 Thread goshawk on horseback

am getting this issue, but only with messenger, and eBay notifications, and 
again, have tried all sorts of things to fix it, but no joy.
whatsapp notifications sometimes work, but sometimes come through in 
batches, so don't know what's going on there.

text notifications seem to be ok.
have had this for the last couple of IOS updates I think.

Simon


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From: "Bobby Druesedow" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2021 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Not getting notifications


Yes. I have been having that problem for a couple of weeks. I am running 
version 14.6. It comes and goes. I cannot duplicate it. It seems that the 
only thing I can tail is if our hit the mute switch on the side to silence 
the phone and then turn it back on the problem starts. I’m not sure what it 
takes to fix it, but sometimes it seems to repair itself.


Bobby Druesedow

On Aug 5, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Antonio Guimaraes  
wrote:


Hi all,

My phone is no longer alerting me when I get a text, WhatsApp message, or 
any other notification. No ring, ding, or VoiceOver alert.

It does ring, but that's about the only notification that does anything.

I've called Apple Accessibility support on this issue, and we looked 
everywhere in settings including notifications, sounds and haptics, do not 
disturb, and VoiceOver settings. We verified I am running the latest iOS 
release, and I am indeed running 14.7.1. We double checked that my phone is 
not on silent.


The problem remains, and I was asked to call their tech support line with a 
case number.


Is this happening to anyone else?

Thanks,

Antonio


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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-27 Thread goshawk on horseback

yes, it was super fun the few times I have been, and is definitely on the 
agenda for next year, when we hopefully have normality back again. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  Hi, Everyone,

  I swam with sea lions too and it was a lot of fun!  I didn't notice any odors 
from them either, but perhaps some do.  Take care.

  EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On May 26, 2021, at 9:14 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

that's why I thought that the seaLion would be a bit of a better idea, 
rather than a dolphin, which would have been my other swimming guide choice. 
actually, having been swimming with a seaLion, I can say from experience, 
that they do not "stink" at all, so don't know where you got that idea from. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:06 AM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  And the sea lion would be able to go on land as well,

  They’d stink though.

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 1:05 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post
  Importance: High

  that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, 
where there ain't really any woods around. 

  personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit 
me a lot better. 

  for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I 
could ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport. 

  think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by 
train though. 

  Simon 

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post

Now that’s a cool thought,

A gide bear!

No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets 
with you.

And bears shit in the woods!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post

Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do 
work). Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the 
bear will take away from you and use it for seasoning 🤣

Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you 
although there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out 
if you accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread 
and there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the 
most part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too 
used to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall 
and we came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a 
black bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous 
dog seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me 
when there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.

Best regards,

Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post

I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about 
his adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.

Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do 
that.

Bill: O,

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-26 Thread goshawk on horseback

sorry all, meant to send that last one off list, as I know this is way off 
topic now. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: goshawk on horseback 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:14 AM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  that's why I thought that the seaLion would be a bit of a better idea, rather 
than a dolphin, which would have been my other swimming guide choice. 
  actually, having been swimming with a seaLion, I can say from experience, 
that they do not "stink" at all, so don't know where you got that idea from. 

  Simon 

- Original Message - 
From: Simon A Fogarty 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:06 AM
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

And the sea lion would be able to go on land as well,

They’d stink though.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 1:05 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post
Importance: High

that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, 
where there ain't really any woods around. 

personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit me 
a lot better. 

for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I 
could ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport. 

think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by train 
though. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Simon A Fogarty 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM

  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  Now that’s a cool thought,

  A gide bear!

  No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets with 
you.

  And bears shit in the woods!

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do 
work). Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the 
bear will take away from you and use it for seasoning 🤣

  Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you although 
there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out if you 
accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread and 
there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the most 
part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too used 
to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

  My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall and 
we came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a 
black bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous 
dog seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me 
when there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about 
his adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.

  Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do that.

  Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw in the bear poop on the 
trail.

  Richard

  "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

  - John Ruskin, 1819-1900

  Web site: www.turner

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-26 Thread goshawk on horseback

that's why I thought that the seaLion would be a bit of a better idea, rather 
than a dolphin, which would have been my other swimming guide choice. 
actually, having been swimming with a seaLion, I can say from experience, that 
they do not "stink" at all, so don't know where you got that idea from. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 2:06 AM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  And the sea lion would be able to go on land as well,

   

   

  They’d stink though.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 1:05 pm
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post
  Importance: High

   

  that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, where 
there ain't really any woods around. 

  personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit me a 
lot better. 

  for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I could 
ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport. 

  think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by train 
though. 

   

  Simon 

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Simon A Fogarty 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

 

Now that’s a cool thought,

 

A gide bear!

 

No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets with 
you.

 

And bears shit in the woods!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

 

Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do work). 
Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the bear 
will take away from you and use it for seasoning 🤣

 

Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you although 
there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out if you 
accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread and 
there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the most 
part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too used 
to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall and 
we came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a 
black bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous 
dog seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me 
when there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

 

I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about his 
adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.

 

Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do that.

Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw in the bear poop on the 
trail.

 

 

 

Richard

"The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but 
what they become by it."

- John Ruskin, 1819-1900

 

Web site: www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

 

First of all there are only two types of bears here, Black Bears and 
Grizzly Bears. The Brown Bear used to live in Europe where it is largely 
extinct.

Secondly it is pointless to try and

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-26 Thread goshawk on horseback

that might be a bit of a problem in somewhere like london for example, where 
there ain't really any woods around. 
personally, as I love my open water swimming, a guide seaLion would suit me a 
lot better. 
for the more land based stuff, I wish I could use my horse Lizzie, as I could 
ride her as well, so she would be both my guide, and transport. 
think that may be a bit of a problem when needing to go somewhere by train 
though. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 1:43 AM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  Now that’s a cool thought,

   

  A gide bear!

   

  No one would give you trouble when they see that walking the streets with you.

   

  And bears shit in the woods!

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:23 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

   

  Yes, we call them dinner bells (as a joke of course because they do work). 
Then of course there is the pepper spray which if your are unlucky the bear 
will take away from you and use it for seasoning 🤣

   

  Fortunately most bears aren't all that interested in eating you although 
there are exceptions, Mummy bears of course may decide to take you out if you 
accidently got too close to their babies and they think you are a thread and 
there are sometimes simply bears which are aggressive and which for the most 
part havde lost their natural fear of humans because they have gotten too used 
to us and those are usually the ones which are more dangerous.

  My wife and I went for a walk on the trails around our town last fall and we 
came around a bend and here was my yellow lab running full out towards a black 
bear probably thinking that he looked like a good playmate. My previous dog 
seemed to have his natural instincts a lot more and he always alerted me when 
there was a bear or moose nearby. Anyways, the bear fortunately was not 
aggressive and probably had eaten plenty of salmon in order to fatten himself 
up for the long sleep ahead, I yelled at my dog and he braked to a stop a foot 
or two in front of the bear and then came back. I started yelling and we backed 
up and all was well, but even though we had just passed a group of people maybe 
a hundred yards further back this is not an encounter I need too often because 
it could have gone either way.

   

   

  Best regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 10:15 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

   

  I heard the author Bill Bryson in person once, and he was telling about his 
adventures and the warnings he received from the outdoor equipment store 
salesperson about walking through bear country.

   

  Salesperson: Make lots of noise.  Wearing bells is a good way to do that.

  Bill: O, that explains all the little bells I saw in the bear poop on the 
trail.

   

   

   

  Richard

  "The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it, but what 
they become by it."

  - John Ruskin, 1819-1900

   

  Web site: www.turner42.com

   

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 9:59 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

   

  First of all there are only two types of bears here, Black Bears and Grizzly 
Bears. The Brown Bear used to live in Europe where it is largely extinct.

  Secondly it is pointless to try and run from any bear because no human alive 
can outrun one, over a short distance a bear can run as fast as a horse.

  Thirdly, no bear will ever chase me on an icy hill because both species crawl 
into a den around mid or late October and then sleep until early to mid April, 
I guess they don't like the snow and the cold either.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:03 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

   

  Hey just so long as if they video you or say myself banging in to things,

   

  They give us the url to  go check out the video so we can laugh at ourselves 
as well.

   

   

  Mind you,

  You have bigger issues during winter than we do here in NZ,

   

  I’d like to hear / see the video of you running from a brown bear on an icie 
street / hill,

   

  That could be rather funny so long as the bear doesn’t get you.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Wednesday, 26 May

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

exactly, yet another point in the robot's favour. although here in the UK, I 
believe guide dog users are exempt from having to clear it up. I know they used 
to be anyway, but not sure if that is still the case now. 

and yet another point, is that the robot one should take you to exactly where 
you want to go, even if you have no idea of how to get there, and no sense of 
direction, where as that would probably be a heck of a lot to ask from the 
standard guide dog. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Simon A Fogarty 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:52 PM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  Yeah,

   

  And it wont poo on the street needing you to then clean it up.

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
goshawk on horseback
  Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2021 8:58 am
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post
  Importance: High

   

  possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

   

  Simon 

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: CJ & AA MAY 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM

Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

 

By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their 
attention. Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog 
owner is that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A 
robot guide dog is likely to draw just as much attention.

 

Alison

 

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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

possibly, but unlike the real dog, one won't have to be so concerned about it 
getting too distracted by such attention, and the robot one could very easily 
even be programmed to say something along the lines of, "buzz off, I'm trying 
to do a job here, and you are not helping" 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: CJ & AA MAY 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 9:51 PM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  By nature, people are curious. Anything different will attract their 
attention. Rightly or wrongly, one of the things I like about being a guide dog 
owner is that I feel the attention tends to go to the dog rather than me. A 
robot guide dog is likely to draw just as much attention.

   

  Alison

   


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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

2021-05-25 Thread goshawk on horseback

having been totally blind all my life, all this looks and image stuff is all so 
much chinese to me. 
I am who I am, simple as, and people can either like it or lump it. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: alia robinson 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 4:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  well, to each his own. I’d rather use tech than that awful cane, and let’s 
face it everyone cares what people think of them. I grew up in a sighted world. 
the fewer things I can use that are blind-specific the happier I am, and we 
have no idea what these devices would look like. in a perfect world no one 
should care what things look like, but we all have concerns about how we look 
to other people. I’d hope I was surrounded by people who don’t care, and  could 
be free of any judgment, but that’s not the case. if you’re at a place where 
nothing truly bothers you I envy that, but I also don’t like the attitude I’ve 
seen here that it’s a stupid waste of time. Advancements that we can use are 
never a waste of time. 

On May 25, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I agree that a cane does not help if somebody has no sense of direction, 
but to be embarrassed by it to make is not an issue and I think nobody should 
be embarrassed about whatever it is they need to be independent. This would be 
like somebody in a wheelchair being embarrassed that they have to use a 
wheelchair or somebody with a hearing aid being embarrassed they need one of 
those. How about people who lost a limb and have a prosthetic arm or leg, 
should they be embarrassed?
The fact is that we all are who we are and if you are embarrassed by the 
cane then where does that stop? Would you be embarrassed if you had to wear 
thick glasses and how about that future super backpack, people will still know 
that you are blind and the smart, high-tech content of said backpack will 
require all sorts of sensors and cameras to function which maybe more or less 
noticeable by others. And in any case, what do I care what others think? Maybe 
I care to a degree when it comes to people close to me, but if I were walking 
down the street and a bunch of idiots were openly pointing at me and laughing 
their heads off because of my cane then I would maybe pity them, but I sure 
wouldn't feel embarrassed by it.

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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

depends on how it is funded.

Simon

- Original Message - 
From: "Caitlyn Furness" 

To: "'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone" 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

Also, how affordable will it be for the average blind person?

Cait

On May 24, 2021, at 11:32 AM, mich verrier  wrote:

Hi I have to ask when or even if this tech will ever get in the hands of 
blind people? Or for that madder even if there are any blind people in 
this prodo type development? So many of these ideas never seem to get off 
of the ground and are just flashes in the pan and never herd of again. 
From Mich.

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Sent: May 24, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

I also don't see the harm in researching and exploring different options. 
Sure the technology is in it's early stages, and kinks need to be worked 
out, but how is this different from any other technology, such as smart 
phones using a touch screen? I can see where people wouldn't think this 
would be an option for themselves, but that is why choice is important, 
and just because someone doesn't use something doesn't make it ridiculous. 
Ditto for using a cane or a guide dog. The bottom line is being 
independent, and if a cane works for someone then they're personality 
shouldn't be called into question.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell

Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 10:10 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

I don’t see the harm in them/companies creating different options for 
travel. The robot assistant still feels a ways off for me. I commend them 
for looking outside the box.

I personally think that a robot dog, or robot helping me walk down the 
road is probably the future, but it still won’t replace the companionship 
of the guide dog. The will never be able to replace that aspect no matter 
how hard they try.

Ed

On May 24, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Johna Gravitt  
wrote:

I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping 
you at curbs or steps?
Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to 
test some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.
I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely 
interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.

Johna

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers
think so. - The Washington Post

I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, 
but really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to 
know that a person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go 
to avoid that person or obstacle. It would require tremendous 
concentration when navigating a busy shop or trying to find your way back 
to the exit.
Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be 
useful secondary mobility aids.

Alison

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
CrazyEyez
Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers
think so. - The Washington Post

honestly this is stupid.
Another money grab.
You'll never ever replace the cane.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:

Hi everyone,
Thought this might be interesting to read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-ba
ckpack-blind/

Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace
canes and guide dogs

Dalvin Brown
March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered
backpack to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. 
(Intel) Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive 
accessories is a backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence 
software. It’s designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching 
possibly hazardous situations like crosswalks or strangers.
The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
independently.
The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgi

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post


hopefully it will be designed to work in the rain.
if it's maps are in it's memory, it should be able to rely on it's other 
sensors, ocr, and such, if it can't get the gps signal.

again, with the right design, one should be able to put in a spare battery.
and certainly here in the UK, one can wait years for a dog, so hopefully the 
considerably shorter time for a robot's service doesn't really stack up 
against that.


Simon


- Original Message - 
From: "CrazyEyez" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post



lol what happens when it rains and you don't have good signal, or if your 
batteries are low, or if you have to send your unit in for service or 
repair?

You get folks reliant on tech, and they're useless without it.
Cool idea, but it'll never ever replace the cane, or a dog which loves you 
and plays with you.



Sent from my iPhone


On May 24, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:

I don’t see the harm in them/companies creating different options for 
travel. The robot assistant still feels a ways off for me. I commend them 
for looking outside the box.


I personally think that a robot dog, or robot helping me walk down the 
road is probably the future, but it still won’t replace the companionship 
of the guide dog. The will never be able to replace that aspect no matter 
how hard they try.


Ed


On May 24, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Johna Gravitt  
wrote:


I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping 
you at curbs or steps?
Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to 
test some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.
I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely 
interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.

Johna


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ 
& AA MAY

Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post


I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, 
but really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to 
know that a person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go 
to avoid that person or obstacle. It would require tremendous 
concentration when navigating a busy shop or trying to find your way back 
to the exit.
Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be 
useful secondary mobility aids.

Alison

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
CrazyEyez

Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post


honestly this is stupid.
Another money grab.
You'll never ever replace the cane.


Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:


Hi everyone,
Thought this might be interesting to read.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/

Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace 
canes and guide dogs


Dalvin Brown
March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack 
to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)
Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s 
designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly 
hazardous situations like crosswalks or strangers.
The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
independently.
The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system 
that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.
Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish 
K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
specializes in computer vision for robots.

What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.
“I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems 
to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve 
been teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot 
see things and need help,” Mahendran said.
There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks 
like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, 
inside. A match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outsid

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

the robots would be more adaptable, for those who's life stile isn't suited to 
a dog for example. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Johna Gravitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 12:12 PM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping you at 
curbs or steps?

  Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to test 
some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.  

  I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely  
interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.

  Johna

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, but 
really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to know that a 
person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go to avoid that 
person or obstacle. It would require tremendous concentration when navigating a 
busy shop or trying to find your way back to the exit. 

  Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be useful 
secondary mobility aids.

  Alison

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
CrazyEyez
  Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  honestly this is stupid.

  Another money grab.

  You'll never ever replace the cane.

  Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:

Hi everyone,

Thought this might be interesting to read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/

  Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
  Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace 
canes and guide dogs
  Dalvin Brown

  March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

  Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered backpack 
to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 

  Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed to 
audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous situations 
like crosswalks or strangers.

  The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. Still, 
the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as progress in AI 
and machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues better 
perceive their environments and, therefore, live more independently.

  The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system that 
seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.

  Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to Jagadish 
K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who also 
specializes in computer vision for robots.

  What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.

  “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing problems 
to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, I’ve been 
teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot see things 
and need help,” Mahendran said.

  There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It looks 
like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, inside. 
A match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.

  In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes to 
conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera 
captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things like 
hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other 
waist-worn pouches.

  The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can 
read signs, detect crosswalks and see coming changes in elevation.

  Bluetooth earphones allow the user to communicate with the system and 
vice versa. So the wearer can ask out loud for location information, and the 
system will tell them where they are. If the camera spots a threat like an 
incoming pedestrian, it can tell the wearer.

  It’s too soon to know how much such a device would cost consumers, but 
several start-ups and organizations are working to solve the same issues, and 
the tech doesn’t come cheap.

  WeWALK

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

completely agree! I know it's handy for giving the sighted wallies who don't 
look where they are going a good ankle bashing, but as I think I said before, 
if one has no sense of direction, the cane is of very limited use for actually 
getting about. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: marco.c...@gmail.com 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  Completely agree. To many people in this world seem to have their canes 
attached to their personalities. A cane to me is like having to carry around 
some surgical implement. The quicker we can replace it, the better I say.

   

  Marco

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:24 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post
  Importance: High

   

  why is it ridiculous? sighted people get directions on their phone, and are 
told what to do at every turn. I personally was always embarrassed by a cane, 
and allergic to dogs. if tech can help us out why not? I for one hated my cane, 
loathed it because it made me feel different than my sighted friends at school. 
I live in a rural area, like to walk close arm in arm with my husband, and my 
cane is in a closet, and has been for years. If I could use something techy I 
would be far more excited about travelling alone. 





On May 24, 2021, at 1:10 AM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

 

that's all well and good, but if like myself for example, you have no sense 
of direction, and need something that is going to be able to work out a rout 
for you, find places for you such as the right shop, pub, restaurant etc. and 
do it all with pin point accuracy, the cane is next to useless! 

so for someone like myself, the robot guide dog, if fitted with the right 
tech, is a super fantastic idea. 

   

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Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

personally, I would be more concerned about it having the right tech fitted so 
that it can be really useful, rather than being a cheapskate. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Wayland 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 3:57 AM
  Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  All a person would have to do in case the software fails is to have a cane 
along with them.

  If the robot worked well enough, and was not too expensive, I would use it.

  Larry

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 8:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  What if something 
goes wrong with the software in the robot?  What then?  Nothing will replace 
either the white cane or a guide dog.  I use a cane myself and always will!

  Esther

  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On May 23, 2021, at 9:13 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

that's more or less what I said as well. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Priscilla Garces (prisci) 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 1:41 AM

  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  I thought it would be a good read since we’re talking about technology 
being helpful to supplement the tools we already have. 

  If they had a robot dog as a guide, I’d sign up so long as the AI is 
suitable enough to help me have an easier time navigating open spaces and other 
settings.

On May 23, 2021, at 6:45 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

I disagree. 

there have already over this last couple of weeks alone, been 
conversations on at least 4 other e-mail lists that I am on, about possible 
robot guide dogs for example. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 

  From: CrazyEyez

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com

  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:50 PM

  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post

  honestly this is stupid. 

  Another money grab.

  You'll never ever replace the cane.

  Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:

Hi everyone, 

Thought this might be interesting to read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/

  Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually 
impaired
  Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day 
replace canes and guide dogs
  Dalvin Brown  

  March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

  Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered 
backpack to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)  

  Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive 
accessories is a backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. 
It’s designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly 
hazardous situations like crosswalks or strangers.

  The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday 
but could face years of development before a consumer-ready version is 
launched. Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like 
as progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
independently.

  The backpack was created by researchers at the University of 
Georgia, who took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a 
system that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.

  Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to 
Jagadish K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who 
also specializes in computer vision for robots.

  What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.

  “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing 
problems to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, 
I’ve been teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot 
see things and need help,” Mahendran said.

  There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It 
looks like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

that's all well and good, but if like myself for example, you have no sense of 
direction, and need something that is going to be able to work out a rout for 
you, find places for you such as the right shop, pub, restaurant etc. and do it 
all with pin point accuracy, the cane is next to useless! 
so for someone like myself, the robot guide dog, if fitted with the right tech, 
is a super fantastic idea. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Esther 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:34 AM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post


  I think this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  What if something 
goes wrong with the software in the robot?  What then?  Nothing will replace 
either the white cane or a guide dog.  I use a cane myself and always will!


  Esther


  Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On May 23, 2021, at 9:13 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:


 
that's more or less what I said as well. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post


  I thought it would be a good read since we’re talking about technology 
being helpful to supplement the tools we already have. 
  If they had a robot dog as a guide, I’d sign up so long as the AI is 
suitable enough to help me have an easier time navigating open spaces and other 
settings.




On May 23, 2021, at 6:45 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:


I disagree. 
there have already over this last couple of weeks alone, been 
conversations on at least 4 other e-mail lists that I am on, about possible 
robot guide dogs for example. 

Simon 


  - Original Message - 
  From: CrazyEyez
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:50 PM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
think so. - The Washington Post


  honestly this is stupid. 
  Another money grab.
  You'll never ever replace the cane.



  Sent from my iPhone


On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:


Hi everyone, 
Thought this might be interesting to read.





  
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/


  Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually 
impaired
  Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day 
replace canes and guide dogs
  Dalvin Brown  March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

  Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered 
backpack to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel)  
  Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive 
accessories is a backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. 
It’s designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly 
hazardous situations like crosswalks or strangers.

  The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday 
but could face years of development before a consumer-ready version is 
launched. Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like 
as progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision 
issues better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more 
independently.

  The backpack was created by researchers at the University of 
Georgia, who took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a 
system that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.

  Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to 
Jagadish K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who 
also specializes in computer vision for robots.

  What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.

  “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing 
problems to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, 
I’ve been teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot 
see things and need help,” Mahendran said.

  There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It 
looks like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, 
inside. A match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.

  In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny 
holes to conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K 
camera captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things 
like hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded i

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

that's more or less what I said as well. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 1:41 AM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. 
- The Washington Post

  I thought it would be a good read since we’re talking about technology being 
helpful to supplement the tools we already have.
  If they had a robot dog as a guide, I’d sign up so long as the AI is suitable 
enough to help me have an easier time navigating open spaces and other settings.

On May 23, 2021, at 6:45 PM, goshawk on horseback 
 wrote:

I disagree. 
there have already over this last couple of weeks alone, been conversations 
on at least 4 other e-mail lists that I am on, about possible robot guide dogs 
for example. 

Simon 

  - Original Message - 
  From: CrazyEyez
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:50 PM
  Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think 
so. - The Washington Post

  honestly this is stupid.
  Another money grab.
  You'll never ever replace the cane.

  Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci) 
 wrote:

Hi everyone,
Thought this might be interesting to read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-backpack-blind/

  Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired
  Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace 
canes and guide dogs
  Dalvin Brown March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT

  Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered 
backpack to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 
  Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories 
is a backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s 
designed to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
situations like crosswalks or strangers.

  The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but 
could face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. 
Still, the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as 
progress in AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues 
better perceive their environments and, therefore, live more independently.

  The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, 
who took existing computer vision techniques and combined them into a system 
that seeks to replace the need for a cane or guide dog.

  Irony was really the driving force behind the idea, according to 
Jagadish K. Mahendran, the lead researcher at the University of Georgia who 
also specializes in computer vision for robots.

  What's next for wheelchairs? Maybe autonomy.

  “I met with my visually impaired friend, and she was describing 
problems to me that she faces daily. And I was struck: For the past few years, 
I’ve been teaching robots how to see things while there are people who cannot 
see things and need help,” Mahendran said.

  There’s nothing outwardly special about the backpack’s design: It 
looks like an ordinary gray knapsack with a small computer, such as a laptop, 
inside. A match-box-sized GPS unit is affixed to the outside.

  In a demonstration video, the user also wears a vest with tiny holes 
to conceal an embedded AI camera. When connected to the computer, the 4K camera 
captures depth and color information used to help people avoid things like 
hanging branches. The camera can also be embedded in a fanny pack or other 
waist-worn pouches.

  The spatial camera, built by the computer vision company Luxonis, can 
read signs, detect crosswalks and see coming changes in elevation.

  Bluetooth earphones allow the user to communicate with the system and 
vice versa. So the wearer can ask out loud for location information, and the 
system will tell them where they are. If the camera spots a threat like an 
incoming pedestrian, it can tell the wearer.

  It’s too soon to know how much such a device would cost consumers, 
but several start-ups and organizations are working to solve the same issues, 
and the tech doesn’t come cheap.

  WeWALK’s smart cane with obstacle detection sells for $600, 10 times 
as much as an ordinary white cane. OrCam MyEye Pro, a wireless smart camera 
that reads what’s in front of you, runs $4,250.

  Social media has upped its accessibility game. But deaf creators say 
it has a long way to go.

  Researchers at the University of Georgia went with a backpack design 
because it would help visually impaired people avoid unwanted attention. They 
used Intel’s Movidius computing chip because i

Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post