Using direct touch with YouTube TV on Apple TV

2021-11-18 Thread Kayla King
Hi all,
Just installed YouTube TV on my Apple TV and I’m having trouble interacting 
with it. Direct touch seems to be nonexistent. Is YouTube TV usable on the 
Apple TV and if so how?
Thank you so much for all of the help!

Sent from my iPhone 8+

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RE: Direct Touch?

2021-11-05 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I would leave it on as it won't interfere with anything unless you are in an 
app where the developer has designated all or part of the screen to use direct 
touch.
It is basically what you get when you enable Direct Touch Typing where the 
keyboard area is designated a direct touch area which interprets commands as if 
Voiceover was not running. Game developers may use this if they want you to use 
gestures in their game which are used to play the game and not to navigate with 
Voiceover, e.g. you may have to swipe right in a game for a particular action 
so you want this action to happen instead of Voiceover going to the next 
element on the screen.
Here is a link which will help to explain it more fully:

What is direct touch? | 
AppleVis<https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/what-direct-touch#:~:text=For%20those%20unfamiliar%20with%20Direct,handle%20those%20touch%20events%20directly.>


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Hi, list.
What does Direct Touch do in VoiceOver? Should it be on/off?
Thanks!
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Direct Touch?

2021-11-05 Thread Fazil M.
Hi, list.

What does Direct Touch do in VoiceOver? Should it be on/off?

Thanks!

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Re: Direct touch on to play 7 Little Words

2021-09-27 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Jen,

I think it will come on automatically when it needs to. If you got the prompt 
about whether to leave text-to-speech on, you chose to leave it on, and you can 
operate the game, it's working.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 27, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi I am wondering before playing 7LittleWords if I need to have the direct 
> touch on or can I turn it on once I am in the game.  If so what is the best 
> way to have success with this.  I went into the game but didn't see anything 
> about direct touch anywhere.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Direct touch on to play 7 Little Words

2021-09-27 Thread Jen .
Hi I am wondering before playing 7LittleWords if I need to have the direct 
touch on or can I turn it on once I am in the game.  If so what is the best way 
to have success with this.  I went into the game but didn't see anything about 
direct touch anywhere.
Thanks.
Jen

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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
Thanks Chris for that clarification. It's just that in previous iOS updates, we 
didn't see such a label even when writing using mBraille or a Braille display. 
I really appreciate the info, and the help from Richard and others for using 
and understanding this feature.


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Direct Touch is the feature that allows apps like MBraille to exist, and has 
> actually been around as long as MBraille has.
> It basically overrides the built in gestures with the gestures that are built 
> into the specific app. So Direct Touch is what allows you to type using the 
> braille keyboard in MBraille.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>> I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch 
>> anyway? Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired 
>> users?
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
>>> as it should.
>>> Its confusing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille 
>>>> which is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. 
>>>> Oh, and you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and 
>>>> off. Appreciate your help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. 
>>>>> if so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
>>>>> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard 
>>>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.turner42.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says 
>>>>>> direct touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then 
>>>>>> you can disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on 
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>>>>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>>>>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
>>>>>>> without it like in the good old days.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>>>>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Chris Chaffin

Direct Touch is the feature that allows apps like MBraille to exist, and has 
actually been around as long as MBraille has.
It basically overrides the built in gestures with the gestures that are built 
into the specific app. So Direct Touch is what allows you to type using the 
braille keyboard in MBraille.

Chris


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch 
> anyway? Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired 
> users?
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
>> as it should.
>> Its confusing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard 
>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>> 
>> www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille 
>>> which is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. 
>>> Oh, and you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and 
>>> off. Appreciate your help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. 
>>>> if so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
>>>> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard 
>>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>>> 
>>>> www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
>>>>> touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
>>>>> disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>>>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>>>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
>>>>>> without it like in the good old days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>>>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>>>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
I just now discovered that with mBraille. What the heck is direct touch anyway? 
Why does it exist and is it of any benefit to us visually impaired users?


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work 
> as it should.
> Its confusing.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which 
>> is what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and 
>> you're right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. 
>> Appreciate your help.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if 
>>> so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
>>> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard 
>>> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds 
>>> discuss people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>> 
>>> www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
>>>> touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
>>>> disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting 
>>>>> without it like in the good old days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peace & Blessings,
>>>>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>>>>> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
Remember, sometimes it will say direct touch area, but mBraille will work as it 
should.
Its confusing.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:23 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

 Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which is 
what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and you're 
right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. Appreciate 
your help.


On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if so, 
pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
On a braille display, I think it is space+q.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
Thanks Richard. When I swipe up it says direct touch on for mBraille which is 
what I'm using now. Sometimes however, I use my BrailleEdge 40. Oh, and you're 
right about the spacebar plus q for quick navigation on and off. Appreciate 
your help.


> On Jul 24, 2021, at 1:14 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if 
> so, pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
> On a braille display, I think it is space+q.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
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> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
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>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct 
>> touch and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can 
>> disable it there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. 
>>> Lots of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of 
>>> something called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without 
>>> it like in the good old days.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
Quick Nav may also be getting in the way if this is a qwerty keyboard. if so, 
pressing the left+right arrow keys will toggle quick nav.
On a braille display, I think it is space+q.



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On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:11 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:

I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


Peace & Blessings,
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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Richard Turner
You cannot get rid of it, but it would help to know which kind of keyboard.
This usually impacts braille displays/keyboards, so you turn the rotor to where 
it says direct touch and flick up.
That should get you going.
HTH,




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On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:

I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


Peace & Blessings,
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Phone (276) 730-5194

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Re: Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread CHELA Robles
I think it might be in the rotor settings you go to where it says direct touch 
and then you flip down to where it says disable and then you can disable it 
there but someone else can feel free to correct me on that.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots 
> of changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something 
> called direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in 
> the good old days.
> 
> 
> Peace & Blessings,
> Pastor Duane L. Steele
> Phone (276) 730-5194
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Direct touch issut

2021-07-24 Thread Duane Steele
I finally took the plunge and updated my phone to iOS 14.7 last night. Lots of 
changes. This may have been covered, but how do I get rid of something called 
direct touch so I can use my keyboard for texting without it like in the good 
old days.


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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-07 Thread Alison May
I am talking about the blind down menu which has various options.

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
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> On 7 Apr 2021, at 5:27 am, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi what menu are you talking about?  Janet
> 
>> On 06/04/2021 21:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:
>> Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but 
>> then discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
>> Alison
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
>> Bell
>> Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
>> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
>> have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet
>> 
>>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
>>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
>>> touch. From Mich.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
>>> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
>>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>>> 
>>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded
>>>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not
>>>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use
>>>> the standard text entry.
>>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it
>>>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says
>>>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>>> 
>>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct
>>>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>>> Of Brad Snyder
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>>> 
>>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last
>>>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>>>> - Brad -
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says
>>>> “direct touch area.”
>>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you
>>>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical
>>>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My web site,
>>>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
>>>> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
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>>>> 18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
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>>>> 7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-06 Thread Janet Bell

Hi Esther, glad I could help its just a shame it doesn't work for me Janet

On 06/04/2021 21:14, Esther wrote:
hi, Janet and everyone, thank you all for your comments and 
suggestions. Janet, your suggestion worked.


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:



Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get 
to direct touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it 
off and vice versa.  hope that helps a bit Janet


On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

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*From:* Esther <mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
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*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
*Subject:* adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to
the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some
reason it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing
wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or anything. I
would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-06 Thread Janet Bell

Hi what menu are you talking about?  Janet

On 06/04/2021 21:58, CJ & AA MAY wrote:

Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but then 
discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
Alison
  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded
me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not
show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use
the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it
says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says
Direct Touch area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct
Touch in iOS 1.4.4?



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last
item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says
“direct touch area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you
flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

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object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425
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LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4
7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not
stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there
was a save button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks 
a bunch.
Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-06 Thread CJ & AA MAY
Once I too found that voice-over wasn't telling me the screen messages but then 
discovered that I'd accidentally unticked accessibility in the menu.
Alison
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 05 April 2021 17:36
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just 
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good 
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use 
>> the standard text entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says 
>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct 
>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last 
>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
>> “direct touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=h
>> ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61
>> a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425
>> 18223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIi
>> LCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P4
>> 7IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not 
>&

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-06 Thread Esther
hi, Janet and everyone, thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Janet, 
your suggestion worked. 

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to direct 
> touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and vice versa.  
> hope that helps a bit Janet
> 
> On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Esther
thanks for the tip. It was a big help. Take care.

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to direct 
> touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and vice versa.  
> hope that helps a bit Janet
> 
> On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. 
>> Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Esther
RS games is also self voicing. Esther I RS Games is also self voicing. Esther

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> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
> only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
> fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
> Bell
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
> landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
> have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet
> 
>> On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
>> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
>> touch. From Mich.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
>> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
>> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>> 
>>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>>> entry.
>>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>>> area.  Things just work.
>>> 
>>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>>> Snyder
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>>> touch area.”
>>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My web site,
>>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Esther
>>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>> 
>>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Esther
I get the same thing in RS Games. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 12:33 PM, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> 
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
> 
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
> 
>> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>> 
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>> 
>> 
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>> 
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
>> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
>> Esther
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> --
>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone
>> list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if
>> you

Direct Touch

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
I don't know if this will help or just add confusion, but here is some 
explanations from AppleVis:
Re: Direct Touch
Submitted by Squirrel on Tuesday, February 2, 2021

For those unfamiliar with Direct Touch, it's a way in which developers can tell 
VoiceOver to ignore touch events in part or all of an app's screen so that the 
app can handle those touch events directly. Examples include virtual 
instruments, exploring a map by touch, interpreting touches and gestures in a 
game, and so on.

Not exactly a new feature
Submitted by dvdmth on Wednesday, February 3, 2021
Club AppleVis Member

Apps have been able to utilize the direct touch feature for years now. As 
described above, an app can designate a portion of the screen as having direct 
interaction, which tells VoiceOver to ignore gestures made in that section of 
the screen, allowing the app to interpret the gestures directly.

What's changed is that you can now enable or disable the direct touch feature 
on an app by app basis. If you disable direct touch for an app, then VoiceOver 
will always interpret gestures made within the app, regardless of whether or 
not the app has designated any part of the screen for direct interaction. You 
may want to do this if an app abuses the direct touch feature, enabling it in a 
portion of the screen that interferes with how you intend to use the app. I 
have not encountered any apps where this would be a problem, but if such an app 
were to show up, then this provides a way to work around the app's behavior and 
hopefully make it more usable.


  *   My summary, If yu are using anything like games, virtual instruments, 
etc, if they are self-voicing, turn off VoiceOver so the app can behave as it 
is designed and VoiceOver won't intercept the gestures.
  *   Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Carolyn
I can't see how Direct Touch would be good for someone totally blind, but 
possibly people with partial sight might prefer it. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just type in 
text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good for a blind 
person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
> standard text entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
> Touch area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
> in iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Brad Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
> in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
> “direct touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=ht
> tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a0
> 8d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6375323425182
> 23178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3
> jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not 
> stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there 
> was a save button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. 
> Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
Do you have the accessibility shortcut set to triple tap the home button or 
side switch to turn VoiceOver on or off?
If so, start the game, and turn off VoiceOver.

If not, tell Siri to turn off VoiceOver, then tell Siri Goodbye so it gets off 
the screen and you are in your game.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I have 
the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just 
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good 
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
>> me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
>> show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use 
>> the standard text entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
>> says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says 
>> Direct Touch area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct 
>> Touch in iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.out
>> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C
>> 30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7
>> C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwM
>> DAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b5
>> 0w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedwvzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Brad Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last 
>> item in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
>> “direct touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
>> flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C30278379e916446156cc08d8f850d8aa
>> %7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532373411772552%7CUn
>> known%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1ha
>> WwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=b50w%2FA8fZ21sMnNALMa2sucO%2B4cedw
>> vzYRkSUAmgoj8%3Dreserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.out
>> look.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fda

RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Mich Verrier
Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what 

Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet


On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:

What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
iOS 1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
touch area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
up to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site,
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!



On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Mich Verrier
In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
I don’t use much of the blindfold games, the one I use doesn’t involve any text 
entry.
Is this game self-voicing?  If so, Unload VoiceOver.

If not, then Direct Touch should show up in the rotor and you can turn the 
rotor to it and flick up and then turn the rotor away from that so you don’t 
toggle it back off and you are supposed to be able to continue with the game.
If not, you absolutely need to contact both the developer and Apple 
Accessibility.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor


Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games you're 
screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else so do you know 
how to stop that from happening?  Janet
On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:
What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4d0efc08934f90726108d8f8501149%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532370055223908%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=BAIeup61EMB7L2kxyuUOccaeOJW0hEJwx1VZeLfv290%3D=0>



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Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cce4d0efc08934f90726108d8f8501149%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532370055233872%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=Bmahoqnr46yQ52H%2B7sjsQPaTWyQgttqpFVnkiG1yzOo%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!




On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright 
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
- Original Message -
From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Richard sometimes when you are playing blindfold games or other games 
you're screen keeps saying direct touch and you can't go anywhere else 
so do you know how to stop that from happening? Janet


On 05/04/2021 16:59, Richard Turner wrote:


What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded 
me it was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not 
show up in the rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the 
standard text entry.


But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it 
says Direct Touch Area and keep typing.


I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct 
Touch area.  Things just work.


Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch 
in iOS 1.4.4?


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com>

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Brad Snyder

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.

On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item 
in the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.


- Brad -


On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:




I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.

It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.

If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.

You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says 
“direct touch area.”


If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you 
flick up to turn it on and you should be good to go.


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Esther

*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!




On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:



Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

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*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

    *Sent:*Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM

*Subject:*adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added
to the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some
reason it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing
wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or anything. I
would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Janet Bell
Hi Esther I take it from reading posts below this that when you get to 
direct touch in the rota if it is on you double tapp to turn it off and 
vice versa.  hope that helps a bit Janet


On 05/04/2021 13:48, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
*Subject:* adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to
the rotor. Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason
it does not stay there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I
didn't think there was a save button or anything. I would
appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
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>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
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> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
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>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it was 
there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the rotor 
unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text entry.
But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says 
Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch 
area.  Things just work.

Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in iOS 
1.4.4?



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad 
Snyder
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



Richard

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realize that you are in a hurry.


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no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor

hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Brad Snyder
Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in the 
rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.

- Brad -

On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner  wrote:


I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.
 
 
 
Richard
 
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realize that you are in a hurry.
 
 
My web site, www.turner42.com
 
 
 
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hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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direct touch short cut?

2021-04-05 Thread Johna Gravitt
Hi,
Just wondering if there's a direct touch short cut to use to invoke it when you 
want to use instead of always turning it on in the rotor?
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Richard Turner
I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct touch 
area.”
If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick up 
to turn it on and you should be good to go.



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no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther

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hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Esther
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> 
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay 
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save 
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Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
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  Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor


  hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther


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adding direct touch to the rotor

2021-04-05 Thread Esther
hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor. 
Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay there. 
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save button or 
anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch. Esther

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RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Richard Turner
I’m glad I was able to help.
It is a confusing aspect of this new update.
I know Apple was trying to help and I guess it does now in 14.4 but I wish they 
had just forced developers to make their apps accessible to begin with.
O well.
Whenever I said “I wish” my Father used to say “wish in one hand and s**t in 
the other,  then see which one you get first.”
Crude, but I didn’t say I wish much around him after that, grin.



Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Paul 
JOrdan
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

I got it figured out. I didn’t realize I had to activate direct touch from the 
rotor itself once I selected it under rotor actions. When I went out of rotor 
actions and into the app, I turned the rotor and flicked. Now it’s working as 
expected. Thanks for all your help and patience.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

I am using an SE 2020. I'm going to try to answer two questions here.
First, if Direct Touch is not under Rotor Actions, either you are not on 14.4, 
or you removed it from the Rotor and need to add it back under the rotor 
settings.
As for using it with mBraille, make sure in that Rotor Actions, direct touch, 
that when you touch an app, it says selected. If you double tap it, it will 
stop saying selected. But, to work, it has to say selected.
The first time, you may have to turn the rotor to Direct touch and turn it on, 
but after that it will just work.
Or at least, it does for me.
I'm using mBraille to reply to this message and while it says direct touch when 
I start, it just works, without any monkeying around with the rotor.
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Well, obviously, I’m doing something wrong. I go into voice over, rotor 
actions, direct touch, and select blindfold solitaire and MBRL. Leave settings 
and try to use either app with no success. Still see “direct touch” prompt and 
can’t activate the keyboard or the cards. When I check back the two apps do not 
show as selected. I have re-started the phone and that doesn’t seem to make a 
difference. What am I missing?
Thanks, as always.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

OK.
RS Games is self-voicing.
So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.
Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it 
without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.
Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.
Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.
I just tried that and it works fine.

The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.

Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to 
ON in order to play.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432490341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=zH85PA%2Btygf4E8E7PEFFNr9tssQ8ZhcUKC9PmgOY54E%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>

RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Paul JOrdan
I got it figured out. I didn’t realize I had to activate direct touch from the 
rotor itself once I selected it under rotor actions. When I went out of rotor 
actions and into the app, I turned the rotor and flicked. Now it’s working as 
expected. Thanks for all your help and patience.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

I am using an SE 2020. I'm going to try to answer two questions here. 

First, if Direct Touch is not under Rotor Actions, either you are not on 14.4, 
or you removed it from the Rotor and need to add it back under the rotor 
settings.

As for using it with mBraille, make sure in that Rotor Actions, direct touch, 
that when you touch an app, it says selected. If you double tap it, it will 
stop saying selected. But, to work, it has to say selected.

The first time, you may have to turn the rotor to Direct touch and turn it on, 
but after that it will just work.

Or at least, it does for me.

I'm using mBraille to reply to this message and while it says direct touch when 
I start, it just works, without any monkeying around with the rotor.

HTH,

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Paul JOrdan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

 

Well, obviously, I’m doing something wrong. I go into voice over, rotor 
actions, direct touch, and select blindfold solitaire and MBRL. Leave settings 
and try to use either app with no success. Still see “direct touch” prompt and 
can’t activate the keyboard or the cards. When I check back the two apps do not 
show as selected. I have re-started the phone and that doesn’t seem to make a 
difference. What am I missing?

Thanks, as always.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

OK.

RS Games is self-voicing.

So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.

Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it 
without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.

Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.

Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.

I just tried that and it works fine.

 

The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.

 

Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to 
ON in order to play.

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,  
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cb36e2efbe9694832db8408d8c6186370%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637477155331362296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=0K4jzdDP8Yn3MdMjqyqcEr49I8X1sq1O%2Ft7xmfAG8Uk%3D=0>
 www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

 

Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems? 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 Hi, 

 

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
a

Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Richard Turner
I am using an SE 2020. I'm going to try to answer two questions here.
First, if Direct Touch is not under Rotor Actions, either you are not on 14.4, 
or you removed it from the Rotor and need to add it back under the rotor 
settings.
As for using it with mBraille, make sure in that Rotor Actions, direct touch, 
that when you touch an app, it says selected. If you double tap it, it will 
stop saying selected. But, to work, it has to say selected.
The first time, you may have to turn the rotor to Direct touch and turn it on, 
but after that it will just work.
Or at least, it does for me.
I'm using mBraille to reply to this message and while it says direct touch when 
I start, it just works, without any monkeying around with the rotor.
HTH,


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


Well, obviously, I’m doing something wrong. I go into voice over, rotor 
actions, direct touch, and select blindfold solitaire and MBRL. Leave settings 
and try to use either app with no success. Still see “direct touch” prompt and 
can’t activate the keyboard or the cards. When I check back the two apps do not 
show as selected. I have re-started the phone and that doesn’t seem to make a 
difference. What am I missing?
Thanks, as always.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

OK.
RS Games is self-voicing.
So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.
Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it 
without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.
Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.
Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.
I just tried that and it works fine.

The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.

Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to 
ON in order to play.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cb36e2efbe9694832db8408d8c6186370%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637477155331362296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=0K4jzdDP8Yn3MdMjqyqcEr49I8X1sq1O%2Ft7xmfAG8Uk%3D=0>



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 Hi,

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado 
mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
Reggie Alvarado

On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m 

RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Paul JOrdan
Well, obviously, I’m doing something wrong. I go into voice over, rotor 
actions, direct touch, and select blindfold solitaire and MBRL. Leave settings 
and try to use either app with no success. Still see “direct touch” prompt and 
can’t activate the keyboard or the cards. When I check back the two apps do not 
show as selected. I have re-started the phone and that doesn’t seem to make a 
difference. What am I missing?

Thanks, as always.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

OK.

RS Games is self-voicing.

So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.

Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it 
without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.

Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.

Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.

I just tried that and it works fine.

 

The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.

 

Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to 
ON in order to play.

 

Richard

 

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.

 

 

My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

 

Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems? 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 Hi, 

 

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

 

Esther

 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but 
have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get 
away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. 
Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Paul JOrdan
Richard, thanks so much for your information. I’m also noticing the direct 
touch problem with MBRL. I’ll try going through apps to see if the MBRL issue 
gets fixed. Again thanks for the info.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

 

You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems? 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

 Hi, 

 

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

 

Esther

 

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.

Reggie Alvarado 


On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but 
have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get 
away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. 
Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Joe Orozco
Hi, under Rotor Actions, I only see an option to edit apps on the home
screen. Am I missing something? I'm on an iPhone SE 2020, in case that
makes a difference.--Joe

On 1/31/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> OK.
> RS Games is self-voicing.
> So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.
> Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it
> without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.
> Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.
> Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.
> I just tried that and it works fine.
>
> The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.
>
> Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up
> to ON in order to play.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem
>
> The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app.
> Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems?
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther
> mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>  Hi,
>
> Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go
> away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft
> go away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.
>
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado
> mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions,
> double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each
> app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch
> when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch
> and flick up to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
> Reggie Alvarado
>
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan
> mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just
> upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t
> find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently
> I didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated,
> but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to
> get away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old
> brain. Thanks in advance.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Richard Turner
OK.
RS Games is self-voicing.
So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps.
Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it 
without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor.
Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected.
Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work.
I just tried that and it works fine.

The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play.

Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to 
ON in order to play.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

Thanks.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
 You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 Hi,

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado 
mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
Reggie Alvarado

On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but 
have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get 
away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. 
Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Esther
The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games.

Thanks.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
> Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems?
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hi,
>> 
>> Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
>> away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft 
>> go away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor 
>>> actions, double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will 
>>> find each app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say 
>>> direct touch when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to 
>>> find direct touch and flick up to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Reggie Alvarado 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
>>> upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and 
>>> can’t find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but 
>>> apparently I didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL 
>>> since I updated, but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn 
>>> off voice over to get away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you 
>>> could give this old brain. Thanks in advance.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Richard Turner
You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. 
Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems?


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther  wrote:

 Hi,

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado  wrote:

Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.

Reggie Alvarado

On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but 
have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get 
away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. 
Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Esther
Hi,

Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go 
away.  I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go 
away.  Anyway, I appreciate all your help.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
> double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each 
> app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch 
> when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch 
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> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
> upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
> find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
> didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, 
> but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to 
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> brain. Thanks in advance.
> God bless!
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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread albert brown
What is the direct touch for please?

Albert

> On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:14, Esther  wrote:
> 
> what a relief! I finally got rid of it from my rotor. It was driving me 
> crazy! Ha ha 
> 
> Esther
> 
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>>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
>> double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each 
>> app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch 
>> when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch 
>> and flick up to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Reggie Alvarado 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
>> upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
>> find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently 
>> I didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, 
>> but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to 
>> get away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old 
>> brain. Thanks in advance.
>> God bless!
>> Paula and the pups
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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-31 Thread Esther
what a relief! I finally got rid of it from my rotor. It was driving me crazy! 
Ha ha 

Esther

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> On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
> double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each 
> app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch 
> when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch 
> and flick up to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.
> 
> Reggie Alvarado 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
> upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
> find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
> didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, 
> but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to 
> get away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old 
> brain. Thanks in advance.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-30 Thread regina alvarado
Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, 
double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. 
You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going 
into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up 
to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps.

Reggie Alvarado 

On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just 
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t 
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I 
didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but 
have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get 
away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. 
Thanks in advance.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Sorry, more about the direct touch problem

2021-01-30 Thread Paul JOrdan
Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just
upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I'm still seeing the "direct touch" issue and can't
find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently
I didn't or the comsuter ate it! I haven't tried using MBRL since I updated,
but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to
get away from direct touch. I'd appreciate any help you could give this old
brain. Thanks in advance.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-26 Thread Esther
That sounds like a good idea.  I'll have to try that.   Take care.

Esther

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> On Jan 24, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Sherrie Gosling  wrote:
> 
> I have only had experience with the direct touch area on my blindfold games 
> solitaire. I could start the game but if I was interrupted by a phone call or 
> notification or anything the game would stop working. Closing the game and 
> the app switcher and restarting did no good. Only restarting the whole phone. 
> Then I realized the game is self voicing so I could turn off voiceover when 
> it was having a direct touch problem and it worked. Just a workaround for the 
> games until the direct touch is gone!
> Sherry Gosling
> 
> 
> Sent from Sherrie's iPhone
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>> Wow!  I'm glad it's going away!  Yippee!
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>  Good, I hope it is going away. I use my phone and tablet to watch TV with 
>>> the AT app and direct touch area has made it very difficult for me to 
>>> navigate. I’m looking forward to it no longer being available. I did call 
>>> Apple about this and I was told that it is not an iOS issue and that I 
>>> needed to contact AT
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
>>>> ab...@michigan.gov
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I am writing this to you with mBraille. The direct touch stuff is slowly 
>>>> going away with the new version of iOS. That is all I can say now as to 
>>>> not violate the disclosure agreement.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jenn
>>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows. 
>>>>> I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it 
>>>>> more of a pain in the behind. 
>>>>> I just hope it is resolved in 14.4. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of 
>>>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my 
>>>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hi, Everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct 
>>>>>> Touch craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some 
>>>>>> effort to do so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Esther
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 
>>>>>>> 14.3. When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as 
>>>>>>> expected. However, the next time I tried to use it I got “direct 
>>>>>>> touch”, and couldn’t get anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” 
>>>>>>> notification when I tried to play one of the blindfold games. What can 
>>>>>>> I do to fix this? Thanks.
>>>>>>> God bless!
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-25 Thread Esther
yes, it's still very baffling how direct touch works. Anyway, thanks for your 
comments. Esther

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> On Jan 24, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows. 
> I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more 
> of a pain in the behind. 
> I just hope it is resolved in 14.4. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hi, Everyone,
>> 
>> I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
>> craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to 
>> do so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. 
>>> When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. 
>>> However, the next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t 
>>> get anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried 
>>> to play one of the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
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RE: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Richard Turner
I’m glad you think that, but it happens with apps that do not have their own 
TTS which is why Apple has changed things in 14.4 so it doesn’t break apps 
while using VoiceOver.
It will still say, Direct Touch Area, but you can just go on and do whatever 
you normally do.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Reyes
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: direct touch area.

The direct touch is for apps that has their own TTS interface, but that’s why 
you turn off VoiceOver.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: direct touch area.

You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows.
I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more of 
a pain in the behind.
I just hope it is resolved in 14.4.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
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"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 Hi, Everyone,

I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to do 
so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. When 
I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. However, the 
next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t get anything 
!work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to play one of 
the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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RE: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Maria Reyes
The direct touch is for apps that has their own TTS interface, but that’s why 
you turn off VoiceOver.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: direct touch area.

You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows.
I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more of 
a pain in the behind.
I just hope it is resolved in 14.4.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
 Hi, Everyone,

I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to do 
so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan 
mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. When 
I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. However, the 
next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t get anything 
!work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to play one of 
the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Sherrie Gosling
I have only had experience with the direct touch area on my blindfold games 
solitaire. I could start the game but if I was interrupted by a phone call or 
notification or anything the game would stop working. Closing the game and the 
app switcher and restarting did no good. Only restarting the whole phone. Then 
I realized the game is self voicing so I could turn off voiceover when it was 
having a direct touch problem and it worked. Just a workaround for the games 
until the direct touch is gone!
Sherry Gosling


Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Esther  wrote:
> 
> Wow!  I'm glad it's going away!  Yippee!
> 
> Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Good, I hope it is going away. I use my phone and tablet to watch TV with 
>> the AT app and direct touch area has made it very difficult for me to 
>> navigate. I’m looking forward to it no longer being available. I did call 
>> Apple about this and I was told that it is not an iOS issue and that I 
>> needed to contact AT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
>>> ab...@michigan.gov
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am writing this to you with mBraille. The direct touch stuff is slowly 
>>> going away with the new version of iOS. That is all I can say now as to not 
>>> violate the disclosure agreement.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jenn
>>> Jenn and Kumi
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows. 
>>>> I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it 
>>>> more of a pain in the behind. 
>>>> I just hope it is resolved in 14.4. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>>> when I was young."
>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi, Everyone,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct 
>>>>> Touch craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some 
>>>>> effort to do so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Esther
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 
>>>>>> 14.3. When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as 
>>>>>> expected. However, the next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, 
>>>>>> and couldn’t get anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” 
>>>>>> notification when I tried to play one of the blindfold games. What can I 
>>>>>> do to fix this? Thanks.
>>>>>> God bless!
>>>>>> Paula and the pups
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Esther
Wow!  I'm glad it's going away!  Yippee!

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:08 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  
> wrote:
> 
>  Good, I hope it is going away. I use my phone and tablet to watch TV with 
> the AT app and direct touch area has made it very difficult for me to 
> navigate. I’m looking forward to it no longer being available. I did call 
> Apple about this and I was told that it is not an iOS issue and that I needed 
> to contact AT
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
>> ab...@michigan.gov
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I am writing this to you with mBraille. The direct touch stuff is slowly 
>> going away with the new version of iOS. That is all I can say now as to not 
>> violate the disclosure agreement.
>> 
>> 
>> Jenn
>> Jenn and Kumi
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows. 
>>> I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it 
>>> more of a pain in the behind. 
>>> I just hope it is resolved in 14.4. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Hi, Everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct 
>>>> Touch craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some 
>>>> effort to do so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!
>>>> 
>>>> Esther
>>>> 
>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. 
>>>>> When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. 
>>>>> However, the next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and 
>>>>> couldn’t get anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification 
>>>>> when I tried to play one of the blindfold games. What can I do to fix 
>>>>> this? Thanks.
>>>>> God bless!
>>>>> Paula and the pups
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Laury, Shawnese (LEO)
Good, I hope it is going away. I use my phone and tablet to watch TV with the 
AT app and direct touch area has made it very difficult for me to navigate. 
I’m looking forward to it no longer being available. I did call Apple about 
this and I was told that it is not an iOS issue and that I needed to contact 
AT

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2021, at 10:05 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:


CAUTION: This is an External email. Please send suspicious emails to 
ab...@michigan.gov


Hi all,

I am writing this to you with mBraille. The direct touch stuff is slowly going 
away with the new version of iOS. That is all I can say now as to not violate 
the disclosure agreement.


Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

On Jan 24, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows.
I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more of 
a pain in the behind.
I just hope it is resolved in 14.4.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone,

I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to do 
so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. When 
I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. However, the 
next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t get anything 
!work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to play one of 
the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
God bless!
Paula and the pups

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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi all,

I am writing this to you with mBraille. The direct touch stuff is slowly going 
away with the new version of iOS. That is all I can say now as to not violate 
the disclosure agreement.


Jenn
Jenn and Kumi

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows. 
> I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more 
> of a pain in the behind. 
> I just hope it is resolved in 14.4. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:
>>> 
>>  Hi, Everyone,
>> 
>> I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
>> craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to 
>> do so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. 
>>> When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. 
>>> However, the next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t 
>>> get anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried 
>>> to play one of the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
>>> God bless!
>>> Paula and the pups
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Richard Turner
You asked what this dirct touch stuff is for? Only Apple knows.
I think Apple thinks they are making things better, but I am finding it more of 
a pain in the behind.
I just hope it is resolved in 14.4.


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On Jan 24, 2021, at 6:02 AM, Esther  wrote:

 Hi, Everyone,

I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to do 
so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!

Esther

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!work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to play one of 
the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
God bless!
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-24 Thread Esther
Hi, Everyone,

I play RS Games a lot and I also am having difficulty with this Direct Touch 
craziness.  Eventually, I get the app to work, but it takes some effort to do 
so.  What does this do anyway?  Pardon my ignorance!  Haha!

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> 
> This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. 
> When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. However, 
> the next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t get 
> anything !work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to 
> play one of the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
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Re: direct touch area.

2021-01-23 Thread Richard Turner
You will have to turn the rotor to Direct Touch and flick up to on and then for 
that session it should work fine. This,  I hope, will be fixed in iOS 14.4.


Richard

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On Jan 23, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:


This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3. When 
I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected. However, the 
next time I tried to use it I got “direct touch”, and couldn’t get anything 
!work. Also I got the “direct touch” notification when I tried to play one of 
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God bless!
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direct touch area.

2021-01-23 Thread Paul JOrdan
This has probably been discussed earlier, but I just updated to IOS 14.3.
When I first used MBRAILLE to reply to a text it worked as expected.
However, the next time I tried to use it I got "direct touch", and couldn't
get anything !work. Also I got the "direct touch" notification when I tried
to play one of the blindfold games. What can I do to fix this? Thanks.

God bless!

Paula and the pups

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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Thanks, this helped. I thought I’d tapped on that unlabeled search field at the 
top of the screen before, but I don’t think I realized the keyboard had popped 
up. With your tip, I was able to persist and sort it out. Now I need to figure 
out how to report this to Amazon.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

 

I just looked and I have the same tabs as you do. I did find how to search, but 
it is not obvious.

 

1, Go to Find tab.

2, Go to the very top of the screen. You should hear, actions available, 
Possible Text, Q Actor, title, or genre. This is your search field.

3, double tap to activate the search field. You should hear, search field is 
editing.

4, Type what you are looking for and double tap the search button on the right 
side of the space bar of the keyboard.

5, To exit the search field, if you swipe one time to the right from the edit 
field, you will find a back button. Double tap the button to cancel the search.

 

 

Hope this is helpful.

 

Chris

 





On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:



On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
type something into a search field.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Chapman
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To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Maria

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Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-05 Thread Chris Chaffin

I just looked and I have the same tabs as you do. I did find how to search, but 
it is not obvious.

1, Go to Find tab.
2, Go to the very top of the screen. You should hear, actions available, 
Possible Text, Q Actor, title, or genre. This is your search field.
3, double tap to activate the search field. You should hear, search field is 
editing.
4, Type what you are looking for and double tap the search button on the right 
side of the space bar of the keyboard.
5, To exit the search field, if you swipe one time to the right from the edit 
field, you will find a back button. Double tap the button to cancel the search.


Hope this is helpful.

Chris


> On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> 
> On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
> Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
> type something into a search field.
>  
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?
>  
> On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, 
> My Stuff.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
> search option seems to have disappeared.
> ----- Original Message - From: 
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
> Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?
> 
> 
> Search tab is on bottom to the right.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Chapman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
> To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
> Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?
> 
> Hi list.
> 
> Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime 
> video app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or 
> anything.
> Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
> but can’t find this in my rota options.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Maria
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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I am in the US, and I’m already running the latest version of the app, so I 
have no option to download it in the App Store. This is on my iPhone 11 running 
IOS 14.1.

 

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sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 6:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

If your in the US, redownload the app. I have search tab on bottom right.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:54 AM
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Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
type something into a search field.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
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Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Maria

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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-05 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
If your in the US, redownload the app. I have search tab on bottom right.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2020 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
type something into a search field.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Maria Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Maria

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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
On my iPhone the tabs along the bottom are Home, Store, Find, Downloads, My 
Stuff. When I double tap the Find tab, I don’t see an opportunity to actually 
type something into a search field.

 

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Chaltain at Gmail

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

 

On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert





On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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Maria Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Maria

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Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-04 Thread Richard Turner
On my iPhone, the tabs along the bottom are, Home, Store, Search, Downloads, My 
Stuff.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Nov 4, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Robert Doc Wright  wrote:

Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Chapman
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 5:33 AM
To: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-04 Thread Robert Doc Wright
Not on my iPad. On the bottom at the right the last tab is "my stuff". the 
search option seems to have disappeared.
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 4:46 AM
Subject: RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?


Search tab is on bottom to the right.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Chapman

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Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime 
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Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct 
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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-04 Thread Richard Turner
As for the Direct Touch, it is on the rotor when you touch a screen and it says 
Direct touch Area and you cannot do anything, turn the rotor until you hear 
direct touch and flick up.

It is not a setting within VoiceOver, it has something to do with a change on 
Apple's part.




Richard
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Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
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Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
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RE: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-04 Thread sarai.bucciarelli
Search tab is on bottom to the right.

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Subject: amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
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amazon prime video app, direct touch and search?

2020-11-04 Thread Maria Chapman
Hi list.

Can someone explain to me how to find the search box in the amazon prime video 
app? I can see a ist of categories and genres, but no way to search or anything.
Also i am getting a message asking me to use the rota to enable direct touch, 
but can’t find this in my rota options.
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Re: Apple TV and direct touch

2020-10-28 Thread Jim Fettgather
Hello, It seems like direct touch has an effect on whether 3 different
areas are accessible or work properly.
What they are referring to as Top Shelf, then another area called
Watch Now, and finally, the typical rows and columns of the interface
containing all of your regular apps.
To add to the confusion, some third party apps, when launched, will
result in Voiceover saying, Direct Touch Area.
It sounds as if in cases such as these, there is no other choice than
to use Direct Touch.
It seems quite counter intuitive and no documentation that I have located.
Thanks.

On 10/27/20, Julian  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe that if you do a two finger triple tap on the touchpad of the
> Apple TV remote but it will toggle it back to the other rotor options. God
> only knows why Apple decided to do this, I see no practical use for taking
> direct touch out of the rotor and adding this extra step to the process.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> I have an Apple TV HD with the latest version of tvOS. Ever since I
>> updated to the latest version, I seem to be in a permanent direct touch
>> state. The only options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read
>> after screen delay, and sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can
>> never really seem to get to work. As a result I have about nine apps that
>> I can’t close. Any way to turn the direct touch capabilities off so I can
>> actually navigate in a ot zooming speed around the screen?
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Re: Apple TV and direct touch

2020-10-27 Thread Julian
Hi,

I believe that if you do a two finger triple tap on the touchpad of the Apple 
TV remote but it will toggle it back to the other rotor options. God only knows 
why Apple decided to do this, I see no practical use for taking direct touch 
out of the rotor and adding this extra step to the process.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 27, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
> 
> I have an Apple TV HD with the latest version of tvOS. Ever since I updated 
> to the latest version, I seem to be in a permanent direct touch state. The 
> only options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read after screen 
> delay, and sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can never really seem 
> to get to work. As a result I have about nine apps that I can’t close. Any 
> way to turn the direct touch capabilities off so I can actually navigate in a 
> ot zooming speed around the screen?
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Apple TV and direct touch

2020-10-27 Thread Joe Quinn
I have an Apple TV HD with the latest version of tvOS. Ever since I updated to 
the latest version, I seem to be in a permanent direct touch state. The only 
options I seem to have an a rotor are speech rate, read after screen delay, and 
sometimes an actions rotor option, which I can never really seem to get to 
work. As a result I have about nine apps that I can’t close. Any way to turn 
the direct touch capabilities off so I can actually navigate in a ot zooming 
speed around the screen?

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Direct Touch and the MBraille app

2020-10-21 Thread Chris Chaffin
Hi all,

Is the direct touch issue still there in ios 14.1 when trying to use the 
MBraille standalone app? I am assuming no, but thought I would ask.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-20 Thread Traci Duncan
I’ve noticed this when using Flicktype classic. Now, I need to flick in the app 
a couple times, turn the rotor to find direct touch, flick that on, then I can 
use Flicktype like normal. Kind of a pain. *Shrugs…

Traci


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 12:08 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I use Direct Touch when playing the accessible game Crafting Kingdom.
> In iOS 13 and earlier, VoiceOver usually automatically set Direct
> Touch when I opened the app. So far, in iOS 14 I have had to turn the
> rotor to Direct Touch and then swipe down to turn it on. After that, I
> was able to interact with the game. I do have to turn Direct Touch on
> each time I enter Crafting Kingdom, which can be multiple times per
> day, but it works fine after I turn it on. It can be tedious but is
> not a big deal.
> 
> Be well,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 10/19/20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> Hi Richard,
>> 
>> I don't know. It used to be that you double-tapped in an area that had
>> Direct Touch to activate it and touched elsewhere to resume using VoiceOver.
>> I haven't used an app that has Direct Touch in a while, so I'm not sure how
>> the rotor plays into it.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anna,
>>> Do you still have to use the rotor to turn on direct touch in those
>>> situations?
>>> 
>>> It is making a mess of MBraille, though the developer thinks he may have
>>> that solved very soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper 
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:12 AM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
>>> Subject: Re: Direct touch on the rotor
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing
>>> VoiceOver gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage
>>> Band without turning off VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> I hope that's of some help.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi again,
>>>> 
>>>> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m
>>>> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.
>>>> Smiley
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kim
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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Wayne Merritt
I use Direct Touch when playing the accessible game Crafting Kingdom.
In iOS 13 and earlier, VoiceOver usually automatically set Direct
Touch when I opened the app. So far, in iOS 14 I have had to turn the
rotor to Direct Touch and then swipe down to turn it on. After that, I
was able to interact with the game. I do have to turn Direct Touch on
each time I enter Crafting Kingdom, which can be multiple times per
day, but it works fine after I turn it on. It can be tedious but is
not a big deal.

Be well,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/19/20, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I don't know. It used to be that you double-tapped in an area that had
> Direct Touch to activate it and touched elsewhere to resume using VoiceOver.
> I haven't used an app that has Direct Touch in a while, so I'm not sure how
> the rotor plays into it.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Anna,
>> Do you still have to use the rotor to turn on direct touch in those
>> situations?
>>
>> It is making a mess of MBraille, though the developer thinks he may have
>> that solved very soon.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
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>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:12 AM
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>> Subject: Re: Direct touch on the rotor
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing
>> VoiceOver gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage
>> Band without turning off VoiceOver.
>>
>> I hope that's of some help.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>>
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>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m
>>> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.
>>> Smiley
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>>>
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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi Richard,

I don't know. It used to be that you double-tapped in an area that had Direct 
Touch to activate it and touched elsewhere to resume using VoiceOver. I haven't 
used an app that has Direct Touch in a while, so I'm not sure how the rotor 
plays into it.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Anna,
> Do you still have to use the rotor to turn on direct touch in those 
> situations?
> 
> It is making a mess of MBraille, though the developer thinks he may have that 
> solved very soon.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:12 AM
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> Subject: Re: Direct touch on the rotor
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing 
> VoiceOver gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage Band 
> without turning off VoiceOver.
> 
> I hope that's of some help.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
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>> Hi again,
>> 
>> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
>> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  
>> Smiley
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> 
>> Kim
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RE: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Anna,
Do you still have to use the rotor to turn on direct touch in those situations?

It is making a mess of MBraille, though the developer thinks he may have that 
solved very soon.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 11:12 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Direct touch on the rotor

Hi,

Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing VoiceOver 
gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage Band without 
turning off VoiceOver.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> Hi again,
> 
> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  
> Smiley
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> 
> Kim
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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Anna Dresner
Hi,

Direct Touch makes it so you can touch parts of an app without doing VoiceOver 
gestures, so you can do things like play instruments in Garage Band without 
turning off VoiceOver.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
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> Hi again,
> 
> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  
> Smiley
> 
> Thanks again,
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> Kim
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Re: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Lynda Ingraham
hi Richard,

You aren't kidding that's a pain in the neck. I don't understand with the 
purpose of direct touch is supposed to be. If you know, could you please 
explain?

Thank you.

Lynda

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> On Oct 19, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Richard Turner  
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> Welcome to iOS 14 and its annoying behavior.
> It messes up several things, most importantly for me, MBbraille, a third 
> party app for inputting braille.
> I'd complain to accessibil...@apple.com
> So far, I've seen no good reason for it being there.
> 
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> Richard
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> Hi again,
> 
> What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
> playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  
> Smiley
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RE: Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread Richard Turner
Welcome to iOS 14 and its annoying behavior.
It messes up several things, most importantly for me, MBbraille, a third party 
app for inputting braille.
I'd complain to accessibil...@apple.com
So far, I've seen no good reason for it being there.



Richard
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From: 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 8:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Direct touch on the rotor

Hi again,

What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  Smiley

Thanks again,


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Direct touch on the rotor

2020-10-19 Thread 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone
Hi again,

What is the direct touch on the rotor?  Seems like I only see it when I’m 
playing games.  I don’t see any usefulness to it other than to annoy me.  Smiley

Thanks again,


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Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread TaraPrakash
Hi

Is there any podcasts on direct touch typing detailing extra keys u get in this 
mode?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 6, 2016, at 1:52 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
> almost like Fleksy.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile
> From Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
>> translation of Touch Typing.
>> I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> And what is more easier?
>> Touch typing, or blind mode?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
>> typing and plain touch typing
>> 
>> Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
>> enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
>> just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
>> letter is entered.
>> 
>> Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
>> So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kimmie parutu
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
>> that way.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Hi kimie,
>> 
>> I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of kimmie parutu
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
>> go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
>> words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of rajmund
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
>> will be inserted.
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:
>> 
>> What's the blind mode?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Afik Sofir
>> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi liel,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
>> I'm trying it again right now.
>> 
>> Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?
>> 
&

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Afik Sofir
Hi,

Thanks so much to all.  I found my preefered meathod, touch typing. 

Again, thanks 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

 

Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
almost like Fleksy.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l> 
>From Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com

 





On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:

unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.
 
Andy
 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?
 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing
 
Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.
 
Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Hi kimie,
 
I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.
 
Sent from a BrailleNote
 
- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:
 
What's the blind mode?
 
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
 
 
 
Hi liel,
 
 
 
I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.
 
Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?
 
 
 
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly
 
 
 
Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.
 
It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.
 
I hope that it help to you.
 
 
Sent from  my iphone
 
 
??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
 afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:
 
 
 
Hi,
 
 
 
I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.
 
I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.
 
Afik
 
 
 
 
 
?,
 
Regards
 
 ?
 
Afik Sofir
 
 
 
??

Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Devin Prater
Direct touch typing, if used with auto-correct and spell check enabled, is 
almost like Fleksy.

Sent from Outlook Mobile
>From Devin Prater
d.pra...@me.com




On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 12:15 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:










unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie,

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir"  wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
 afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.

Afik





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Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Andy Baracco

unless the poster is referring to Braille keyboard entry mode.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 10:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.

I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


Hi richard,
And what is more easier?
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing


Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, 
just slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
letter is entered.


Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered. 
So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it 
that way.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie,

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of kimmie parutu

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of rajmund

Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
will be inserted.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Devin Prater

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.


Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com








On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu"
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Afik Sofir

Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but,
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?<
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



? ??

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Afik Sofir
דםת ן ודק נךןמג אטפןמע צםגקת נואץץץ ךןאאךק בםצפךןבשאקגץ

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

 

That's right, apple translate it as bblind typing mode, but methe meant to 
touch typing.

Translate litel strange


Sent from  my iphone


‫ב-5 במרץ 2016, בשעה 20:04, ‏‏Afik Sofir ‏< <mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> 
afik.so...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:

No. 
Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
you relase your finger, the letter is slected.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.

Re: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Liel Ben Simon ליאל בן סימון
That's right, apple translate it as bblind typing mode, but methe meant to 
touch typing.
Translate litel strange

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-5 במרץ 2016, בשעה 20:04, ‏‏Afik Sofir ‏<afik.so...@gmail.com> כתב/ה:‬

> No. 
> Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
> you relase your finger, the letter is slected.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
> translation of Touch Typing.
> I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> Hi richard, 
> And what is more easier? 
> Touch typing, or blind mode?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
> typing and plain touch typing
> 
> Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
> enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
> slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that 
> letter is entered.
> 
> Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  
> So, you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kimmie parutu
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
> way.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Hi kimie, 
> 
> I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> kimmie parutu
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to 
> go, because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other 
> words, you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> rajmund
> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> Hello,
> Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it 
> will be inserted.
> 
> Sent from a BrailleNote
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> What is direct typing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Devin Prater
> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> 
> 
> For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
> input I use tabletop mode.
> 
> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
> <pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> What's the blind mode?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Afik Sofir
> Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly
> 
> 
> 
> Hi l

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Afik Sofir
No. 
Touch typing that when you  flick on the keyboard, you hear the letters, when 
you relase your finger, the letter is slected.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I hav

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Richard Turner
I've never heard of blind mode.  I think someone said that was the Hebrew 
translation of Touch Typing.
I only use Touch Typing as I am totally blind.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



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 <http://www.highsight.co.il/> Highsight ? ?? ?? 
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?

RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Afik Sofir
Hi richard, 
And what is more easier? 
Touch typing, or blind mode?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch 
typing and plain touch typing

Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Liel Ben Simon  ?? ?
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


Sent from  my iphone


??-5  2016,  7:46, ??Afik Sofir ?< 
<mailto:afik.so...@gmail.com> afik.so...@gmail.com> ???/?:



Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





?,

Regards

 ?

Afik Sofir



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RE: the best way to type quickly, difference between direct touch typing and plain touch typing

2016-03-05 Thread Richard Turner
Touch Typing means when you touch a letter VoiceOver speaks it but doesn't 
enter it until you lift your finger.  So, if you touch the wrong letter, just 
slide your finger to the correct one and then lift your finger and that letter 
is entered.

Direct Touch Typing means as soon as you touch the letter it gets entered.  So, 
you have to be absolutely precise and only touch the letters you want.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

It does take a lot of practice. I do it all the time, and much prefer it that 
way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2016 3:21 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hi kimie, 

I'm trying now touch typing, so I need to practice, I think.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
kimmie parutu
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Yeah and if you're not sure of your screen, that's probably not the way to go, 
because you have to know exactly pretty much where to touch. In other words, 
you got to pretty much know your screen inside out.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
rajmund
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 10:30 p.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

Hello,
Basically, instead of double tapping the character, once you touch it, it will 
be inserted.

Sent from a BrailleNote

 - Original Message -
From: "Afik Sofir" <afik.so...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 09:43:42 +0200
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly

What is direct typing?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Devin Prater
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 9:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



For the onscreen keyboard, I use direct touch typing, and for braille screen 
input I use tabletop mode.

Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l From Devin Prater 
d.pra...@me.com







On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 11:35 PM -0800, "kimmie parutu" 
<pegasu...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

What's the blind mode?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Afik Sofir
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2016 8:26 p.m.
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Subject: RE: the best way to type quickly



Hi liel,



I've tried the "blind mode" and its little difficult for me, but, 
I'm trying it again right now.

Have any other method without Bluetooth keyboard?





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Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: the best way to type quickly



Hi afick, i suggest to you to type in touch typing mode.  In 
hebrew it translated to ""blind mode" i use in this way and i am 
not use my other hand.

It could be hard in the start, but with practis again and again 
it will be easier.

I hope that it help to you.


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Hi,



I got an iphone 5es before a month a go.  When I'm typing, I'm do 
it very slowly, and want to do it quickly.

I have a cp, in my left hand, so I'm doing everything in my left 
hand.

Afik





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My impressions about dleksy vs direct touch typing

2015-03-15 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello everyone 

I tried again the latest update by dleksy and was not very impressed.  

Maybe it is getting a bit better but with not too much effort I am already 
typing pretty fast using direct touch typing 

I really think it is worth exploring and practicing a cot and gives great 
results. 

I am writing now almost as fast as with braille but make slightly more  more 
mistakes. I am seriously considering getting a speed dots screen protector. To 
make this way of inspiring text even more efficient.


I can honestly say hand on heart goodbye to dleksy 

Vest regards and I hope I have convinced some to give direct touch typing a 
try.  Ioana c



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Direct Touch Typing, Not!

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Turner
OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS 8.2. I 
don't think so.
I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same as 
standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering text in 
an edit field, etc.
If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens unless I 
double tap on a letter.
The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with 8.2, but if 
I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be writing to 
accessibil...@apple.com

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Re: Direct Touch Typing, Not!

2015-03-10 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I said this morning that touch typing worked  for me. I was not
referring to direct touch typing. I don't use it but rather just touch
typing which does work fine.

On 3/10/15, Joanne Chua shuang.an...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have no problem with direct touch typing on my iphone6+ using ios8.2

 Have you check your keyboard setting under accessibility?



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 On 11 Mar 2015, at 9:49, Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I have no problem with my six plus or my iPad mini 2.

 Jenn and Kumi




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 rich...@turner42.com wrote:

 The difference is as I understand it is that direct touch typing puts in
 the letter when you touch it, but Touch Typing doesn't put in the letter
 until you lift your finger.
 The return key always required a double tap in Touch Typing.
 Richard



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  On Mar 10, 2015, at 7:56 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
 
  Touch typing on my iPhone reacts like Direct Touch Typing except for
  the return key, which demands a double tap. Harry
 
 
 
  On 10 Mar 2015, at 14:03, Richard Turner  wrote:
 
  OK, some have claimed they can still use Direct Touch Typing in iOS
  8.2. I don't think so.
  I have tested it on both a 5s and a 6 and it simply behaves the same
  as standard typing, meaning you have to double tap each letter.
  I've tried it when replying to an Email, composing an Email, entering
  text in an edit field, etc.
  If the typing mode is set to Direct Touch Typing, nothing happens
  unless I double tap on a letter.
  The regular Touch Typing still works as before.
  Personally, I always use the regular Touch Typing so I am fine with
  8.2, but if I were someone who prefers Direct Touch Typing, I would be
  writing to accessibil...@apple.com
 
  JMTCW,
  Richard
 
 
 
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