RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

Thanks, Mark. Do you have to have two-factor authentication? 

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From: M. Taylor [mailto:mk...@ucla.edu] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Carolyn,

You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in.

You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new 
one on the fly.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[M. Taylor]

Hello Carolyn,

You only need to provide an email address and password, to sign in.

You may use any of your Apple, Google, Facebook email addresses or create a new 
one on the fly.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 11:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Richard Turner]

If after you select you need visual help, or whatever it says, if it doesn't 
prompt you to set up an account,  check the bottom right corner for the 
settings tab and double tap. Then, follow the prompts. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it 
> offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>  
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Malcolm Parfitt
>> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
>> 
>> I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
>> Supersense.
>> 
>> Envision gave me the following:
>> 
>> Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a 
>> small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green 
>> chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A 
>> TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered 
>> around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
>> 
>> 
>> There is no television in the room.
>> 
>> Be My AI give me:
>> 
>> The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
>> fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the 
>> mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are 
>> several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.
>> 
>> In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
>> reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
>> with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.
>> 
>> Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms 
>> and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical 
>> object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.
>> 
>> The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, 
>> and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a 
>> traditional holiday feel.
>> 
>> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
>> 
>> Supersense gave me:
>> 
>> The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
>> Focusing from the top of the image downwards:
>> 
>> At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
>> the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
>> framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
>> mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red 
>> face.
>> 
>> On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
>> giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
>> beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
>> front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a 
>> decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part 
>> of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat 
>> is placed in front of the fireplace.
>> 
>> On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. 
>> On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and 
>> geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 
>> 
>> On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
>> blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with 
>> the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking 
>> a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questio

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Richard Turner]

Yes, SuperSense is an app, and it is over priced. You can get everything it 
offers between free apps, Seeing AI, Be My Eyes, and Envision AI. 


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


> On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
> Supersense.
> 
> Envision gave me the following:
> 
> Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small 
> snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, 
> one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is 
> mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around 
> the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
> 
> 
> There is no television in the room.
> 
> Be My AI give me:
> 
> The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
> fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel 
> hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several 
> Christmas cards and a small framed photo.
> 
> In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
> reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
> with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.
> 
> Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms 
> and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical 
> object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.
> 
> The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, 
> and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional 
> holiday feel.
> 
> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
> 
> Supersense gave me:
> 
> The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
> Focusing from the top of the image downwards:
> 
> At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
> the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
> framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
> mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red 
> face.
> 
> On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
> giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
> beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
> front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a 
> decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of 
> the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is 
> placed in front of the fireplace.
> 
> On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. 
> On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and 
> geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 
> 
> On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
> blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with 
> the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking 
> a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image 
> below.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>Hello Richard,
> 
>Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
> available when Smart Scan is active?
> 
>    Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
> device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.
>
>Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
>On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
> descriptions. 
>I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room 
> with a tv on a table." 
>I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following

RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

What do you do to set up account with Be my AI? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Carolyn Arnold]

Is super sense an app that goes on an iPhone? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and 
Supersense.

Envision gave me the following:

Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small 
snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, 
one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is 
mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around 
the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.


There is no television in the room.

Be My AI give me:

The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a 
fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel 
hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several 
Christmas cards and a small framed photo.

In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, 
reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white 
with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.

Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and 
legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object 
that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.

The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and 
blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional 
holiday feel.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.

Supersense gave me:

The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. 
Focusing from the top of the image downwards:

At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along 
the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several 
framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a 
mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.

On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, 
giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a 
beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In 
front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative 
item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the 
decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed 
in front of the fireplace.

On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On 
the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric 
designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. 

On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden 
blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the 
lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy 
atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  
wrote:




Hello Richard,

Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture 
available when Smart Scan is active?

Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your 
device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.

Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner 
 wrote:




I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about 
improved descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a 
room with a tv on a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely 
atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket 
draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, 
and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the 
right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind 
the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On 
the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted 
in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree 
above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner 
of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be 
sitting on a c

RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. It sounds like you are on the screen where you have to either register as a 
blind user or sighted volunteer. Choose the first option and either create a 
free account or sign in with a service such as apple or google. Once you have 
completed the sign up process you should be taken to the main screen.

Chris Judge






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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
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Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As others mentioned, this is just the initial setup screen. Be My Eyes has two 
kinds of users: those who need assistance and those who provide it. If you are 
blind and want to use it for assistance you tap on "I need assistance", then 
create an account and you are good to go. You won't ever have to do this again.


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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I completely agree with you Richard, I only mentioned SuperSense’s description 
out of interest rather than a recommendation.

I may say the same of Tap Tap See and One Step Reader!

There are many apps on my iPhone that no longer deserve being there.

My comparison was based on one image alone with my iPhone placed on a stand 
controlled with a Bluetooth keyboard.  Had I taken photographs of  other 
subjects under different lighting conditions my results may have been totally 
different.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2023, at 23:44, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want 
> to double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're 
> prompted to create an account the first time but once done you'll then see 
> the options to either call a live person or make use of AI.
> I hope that helps.
> Take good care,
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> Hello Richard and Everyone,
> 
> I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:
> 
> After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
> description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
> human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.
> 
> Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
> options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
> like to volunteer, share your sight.
> 
> I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.
> 
> How does one activate that feature?
> 
> The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
> exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and 
> how they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
> $19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?
> 
> All replies greatly appreciated.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
> To: ViPone list 
> Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions
> 
> I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
> descriptions. 
> I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv 
> on a table." 
> I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 
> 
> The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the 
> left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In 
> the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the 
> stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, 
> there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a 
> window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the 
> right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, 
> suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are 
> painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas 
> tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a 
> corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer 
> might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.
> 
> Image description provided with Be My Eyes.
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores 
> it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
> 
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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It isn't the most straightforward if you haven't been in it before. You want to 
double tap I need visual assistance. Then I can't recall if you're prompted to 
create an account the first time but once done you'll then see the options to 
either call a live person or make use of AI.
I hope that helps.
Take good care,
Robin


-Original Message-
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llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 5:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[llumpkin]

It should be one of the tabs at the bottom of the screen.


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 


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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Richard Turner]

Malcolm, that may be true that SuperSens may have done a little better job, but for free, I'll take Be My Eyes hands down. No one should buy SuperSense! Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
      with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description

RE: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard and Everyone,

I was going to start a new thread but decided to ask my questions here:

After hearing so many wonderful comments regarding Be My Eyes, along with the 
description you just posted about how the app can describe something without 
human intervention, I decided to download it and give it a try.

Did I miss something?  When I launch the app, I only see, no pun intended, 2 
options (1), I need visual assistance, call company or volunteer and (2), I’d 
like to volunteer, share your sight.

I was hoping to use the app’s AI image description, only, at this point.

How does one activate that feature?

The app store indicates that there are in-app purchases but, even after 
exploring the website, I cannot determine what the various fees are for and how 
they work. For example, in the app store there seems to be a purchase for 
$19.95.  What does this particular fee cover?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2023 12:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I would say Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:46, Dan  wrote:

  

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
 

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Dan]

  
  
So Malcolm,

  
Which gave the most accurate description?

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 12/23/2023 4:41 PM, Malcolm Parfitt
  wrote:

I
  completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would
  not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.
  
  
  As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense
to add its findings to your excellent post.
  
  
  Happy holiday to one and all!
Malcolm Parfitt

  On 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard
Turner  wrote:

  


  Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and
StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My
Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low
lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I
took of another part of our living room and when she looked
at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave
such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and
she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an
amazing job. 

  



  Richard, USA
  “Grandma always told us,
  “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
  it on the other side of Hell and you will have to
  go through Hell to get it.”
  -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
   
  My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
   



  
  
On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM,
  Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
  

  
  
I have just carried out a similar test
  with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.
  
  
  Envision gave me the following:
  
  
  Looks like The image features a cozy living room
with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in
front of it. The room is decorated with two green
chairs, one on the left side and the other on the
right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall
above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered
around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.
  
  
  
  
  There is no television in the room.
  
  
  Be My AI give me:
  
  
  
The picture shows a cozy room corner with a
  festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a
  dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above
  the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam
  train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas
  cards and a small framed photo.


In front of the fireplace is a large mirror
  leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative
  snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is
  white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to
  be handmade, possibly knitted.


Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the
  fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible.
  Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red
  cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug
  or wrapping paper.


The floor is covered with a patterned carpet
  featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The
  overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a
  traditional holiday feel.


Image description provided with Be My Eyes.



  Supersense gave me:
  


The image shows an interior
  setting with a variety of items and
  decorations. Focusing from the top of the
  image downwards:


At the t

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I completely agree with you Richard.  Knowing what I do now I would not buy Supersense now even though it is on sale.As I have a lifetime subscription it made sort of Supersense to add its findings to your excellent post.Happy holiday to one and all!Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 21:32, Richard Turner  wrote:Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains al

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Richard Turner]

Well done. since Be My Eyes is free, and StuperSense is completely over priced, I'll stick with Be My Eyes. Envision is ok,  but Be My Eyes excells in low lighting. I shared a description with my wife from a photo I took of another part of our living room and when she looked at the photo, she couldn't understand how Be My Eyes gave such a detailed description as the photo was very dark and she couldn't make out the details, but Be My Eyes did an amazing job. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 23, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is 

Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I have just carried out a similar test with Envision AI, Be My AI and Supersense.Envision gave me the following:Looks like The image features a cozy living room with a fireplace and a small snowman sitting in front of it. The room is decorated with two green chairs, one on the left side and the other on the right side of the room. A TV is mounted on the wall above the fireplace, and a few books are scattered around the room, adding to the cozy atmosphere.There is no television in the room.Be My AI give me:The picture shows a cozy room corner with a festive atmosphere. There's a fireplace with a dark wood mantel adorned with green tinsel. Above the mantel hangs a framed picture of a steam train. On the mantel, there are several Christmas cards and a small framed photo.In front of the fireplace is a large mirror leaning against the wall, reflecting a decorative snowman standing on the hearth. The snowman is white with a red scarf, black hat, and appears to be handmade, possibly knitted.Two armchairs with a floral pattern flank the fireplace, their wooden arms and legs visible. Between the chairs, on the floor, lies a red cylindrical object that could be a rolled-up rug or wrapping paper.The floor is covered with a patterned carpet featuring a mix of beige, red, and blue tones. The overall ambiance is warm and inviting, with a traditional holiday feel.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Supersense gave me:The image shows an interior setting with a variety of items and decorations. Focusing from the top of the image downwards:At the top, there's a framed image depicting a steam locomotive moving along the tracks with a lot of smoke around it. Below the framed image, several framed photographs and a couple of Christmas-themed cards are displayed on a mantelpiece. In the center of the mantelpiece is a golden clock with a red face.On the lower shelf of the mantelpiece, there's tinsel draped along the edge, giving a festive look. A large mirror sits on the mantelpiece and reflects a beige-toned room, but not much of the room is visible in the reflection. In front of the mirror is a small fireplace façade, which seems to be a decorative item rather than a working fireplace, along with logs as a part of the decoration. A small, plush snowman with a red scarf and a black hat is placed in front of the fireplace.On the left side, there is a green upholstered armchair with wooden details. On the floor, the room is covered in a patterned carpet with floral and geometric designs, primarily featuring beige, brown, and red tones. On the right margin of the image, a small part of what looks like a wooden blowpipe and a red candle can be seen. The image has a warm ambiance, with the lighting casting a soft glow on the furnishings and decorations, evoking a cozy atmosphere. Need more details? Type your questions about the image below.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:59, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Re: Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Richard,Have you tried comparing the Be My AI with Supersense‘s take picture available when Smart Scan is active?Unfortunately as far as I can tell you cannot share a photo from your device and get a detailed description of it with Supersense.Malcolm ParfittOn 23 Dec 2023, at 20:48, Richard Turner  wrote:I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved descriptions. I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on a table." I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch or bed covered with this quilt.Image description provided with Be My Eyes.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ 



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Comparison between Envision AI and Be My Eyes AI descriptions

[Richard Turner]

I just updated Envision AI and it mentioned something about improved 
descriptions. 
I took a picture and it said, "I'm not sure but it could be a room with a tv on 
a table." 
I did the same scene with Be My Eyes AI and got the following. 

The picture shows a living room with a cozy and homely atmosphere. On the left, 
there is a wooden rocking chair with a black jacket draped over it. In the 
center, a flat-screen TV is placed on a wooden stand, and beneath the stand, 
there appears to be a cable box or DVD player. To the right of the TV, there's 
a lamp with a classic design on a small table. Behind the TV, a window with 
white curtains allows natural light to enter the room. On the right side of the 
image, a decorated Christmas tree is partially visible, suggesting the photo 
was taken during the holiday season. The walls are painted in a light color, 
and there is a large, framed artwork of a Christmas tree above the rocking 
chair. The floor is wooden, and in the foreground, a corner of a quilt with a 
patchwork design can be seen, indicating the viewer might be sitting on a couch 
or bed covered with this quilt.

Image description provided with Be My Eyes.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 

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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[h.begum99 via VIPhone]

That’s funny about your dog being referred to as a bear!!

 

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hevener
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI,

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

They make cases that you can wear that hold the phone so the camera is pointed 
in front of you, several are like a harness that  has the phone clamped in so 
no one can just grab it. And they are often less than $50 instead of 3000 plus 
and you then do not have another battery powered device to keep charged.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 6:55 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, Jose, the person doing the demo said that he prefers the google glass 
as he does not have to keep waving his phone around running the risk that 
someone with ill intent will remove it from him.  I played around with 
supersense explorer mode today while sitting in the doctor exam room.  I could 
not get it to find the chair which I knew to be there.  It found my dog and, 
after identifying correctly for several times, it suddenly called her a cat!  
Not sure why that happened.  Do u know if Supersense is supposed to work on the 
original Iphone se?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.  

And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription. 

Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.

Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to 

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Fazil]

Agree, specially when we have several options  are available around for free.

 

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all t

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Arlene]

Thank you, for telling about your experiences with the glass, way too expensive 
for me. As much as I appreciate all the scanning apps, and also scanning 
software for the computer, it would be really wonderful if being able to read 
the experation dates on products could be done or worked on. Possibly there may 
be something I'm not aware of, for example if any of the scanning apps or even 
softward can read the experation dates, that again I'm not aware of, and or 
there may be some technical reason why it's not possible. Though I wish being 
able to read the experation dates could be possible and truly worked on. It's 
really, really important. Unfortunately even the scanners such as the id mate 
can't seem to read that information and it's very much needed information, even 
if you have some general knowledge of how long a product lasts, along with all 
the other important product information that can be read by the scanning apps, 
scanning software for the computer and the hand held scanners.

Arlene

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:58 PM
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai


  Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

  With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such 
as chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

   

  Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

   

  I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

  So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

   

  Kitty,

  I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

   

  Thanks,

   

   

  Richard, in the U.S.

   

  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

   

a.. I’m not the card shark
b.. My web site, www.turner42.com
   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Dennis Long]

Envision is simply not worth the money in my opinion.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 12:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envisi

Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Well, I do not think any of the systems with glasses are worth that kind of 
money when you can do all that just with your phone.
And, Envision AI still has not impressed me enough to even pay for a 
subscription.
Seeing AI had a very impressive update today. Check it out.
Also, Supersense for the explore feature does as good a job as Envision AI.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:58 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow.
With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment.
So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, glad to share, thanks.  When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to 
run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!!  
The price is $3,500.00.  Company in FL (is US distributor) has a  10% sale that 
ends tomorrow. 

With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as 
chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified.  The person doing the 
demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by 
connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to 
see what you are seeing.  This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact.  
Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe.  While not demonstrated, was 
told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers.   Asked if 
I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, 
uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window.  
Demonstrator did not know.  

 

Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks.  So, I did.  My excitement 
and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment.  I tried 
scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. 
 I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless 
of how I moved it.  I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could.  
The result was nothing recognizable.  I got the same results on a couple other 
documents.  So, moved on to the explorer part of the application.  With this 
feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it.  Scene 
descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!!  For instance, 
one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear.  The second time it 
called her a possible large cat!!!  I will say that I have never been able to 
get accurate object identification with seeing ai either.  Am thinking that 
accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take 
pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest 
software  .  

 

I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just 
automatically somehow identifies the object.  Even though I understand envision 
ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would 
be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring 
environment.  

So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai.  I know there is a help 
feature that I need to explore.  I just downloaded supersense and have started 
playing with it.  Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts 
scanning without you doing anything,  disconcerting..

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Kitty,

I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Richard, in the U.S.

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

 

*   I’m not the card shark
*   My web site,  <http://www.turner42.com> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, 

RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Kitty,
I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the 
demo of the Envision Glasses?

Thanks,


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of kitty 
hevener
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years.  That seems 
kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Envision AI Free trial

[Kathy Blackburn]

I downloaded Envision AI on my iPhone 8. I'm running IOS 14.3. I'm still in the 
free trial period. I am not finding that Envision works as well for me as 
Seeing AI or Voice Dream Scanner. How do I opt out of continuing the trial, 
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Joe Orozco]

I purchased a year subscription to Envision. I don’t think the quality
is as good as Seeing AI. Mind you, I’m referring to short text. I have
not tested out Envision on documents. I mostly bought the subscription
to show my support of their efforts. Somehow I missed the memo on
SuperSense or would have given them a try.

Joe


On 12/18/20, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and
> Seeing A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I
> reads short text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have
> purchased Envision last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime
> purchase. It was probably one of the best purchases I have made on my
> iPhone. It works quite well when scanning documents.
>
> Greg Wocher
>
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image
>> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me
>> where Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition.
>> I use this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors
>> sensor used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code.
>> Envision Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I
>> also have the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active
>> internet connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone
>> for updates and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off
>> topic.
>>
>> Ed Worrell
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read
>>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to
>>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess
>>> the thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable
>>> glasses and all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a
>>> virtual demo tomorrow.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>>>
>>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than
>>> Seeing AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and
>>> has a different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a
>>> combination of Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
>>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
>>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
>>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you
>>> can do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy
>>> it since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm
>>> thinking about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of
>>> asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my
>>> mother told me when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
>>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
>>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for
>>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it
>>>> significantly better than seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
I have both envision and seeing A I on my phone. I use the Dexcom G6 and Seeing 
A I reads the code just fine for me. For me I find that Seeing A I reads short 
text better than does Envision. I was lucky enough to have purchased Envision 
last year when they had a big sale on the lifetime purchase. It was probably 
one of the best purchases I have made on my iPhone. It works quite well when 
scanning documents.

Greg Wocher

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image 
> recognition is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where 
> Envision Ai beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use 
> this to identify codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor 
> used for  pairing to the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision 
> Ai picks it up and reads it to me on the first try every time. I also have 
> the Envision glasses… They are great assuming you have an active internet 
> connection. They are comfortable and easy to pair to the phone for updates 
> and set up. I won’t get into the glasses to much as that’s off topic.
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read 
>> with Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to 
>> find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the 
>> thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and 
>> all that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo 
>> tomorrow.  
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>> 
>> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
>> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
>> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
>> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
>> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
>> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
>> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
>> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it 
>> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking 
>> about it. 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for 
>>> subsequent years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly 
>>> better than seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

Have you tried Supersense on your meter?
I'd be very curious if it worked.

Especially given that it has a one time purchase option for around $50 right 
now.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 8:06 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
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>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Ed Worrell]

Hello All,

I utilize the Envision Ai app through out my day. I find the image recognition 
is first class. The document scanning is great, but to me where Envision Ai 
beats Seeing Ai hands down is instant text recognition. I use this to identify 
codes on the back of my continuous glucose monitors sensor used for  pairing to 
the app. Seeing Ai doesn’t even see the code. Envision Ai picks it up and reads 
it to me on the first try every time. I also have the Envision glasses… They 
are great assuming you have an active internet connection. They are comfortable 
and easy to pair to the phone for updates and set up. I won’t get into the 
glasses to much as that’s off topic.

Ed Worrell
   

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 10:34 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
> Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
> what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing 
> that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all 
> that you can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. 
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai
>  
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of 
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems 
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the 
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can 
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since 
> I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about 
> it. 
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
>> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that 
>> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly 
>> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent 
>> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than 
>> seeing ai?  How?
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RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with 
Winston’s scanner program.  At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out 
what it is and determine if human assistance is needede.  Guess the thing that 
attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you 
can do with them.  Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

 

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.  

Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it. 

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

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kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than seeing ai?  How?

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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Shane Lowe]

Hi Richard and all,
Thank you for the mention. I would be happy to answer any questions
you may have about the Supersense app.
We have also just received great news, which is that our research and
development department will be continuing our partnership with the
National Science Foundation. This means that the features you have
been requesting for Supersense will be developed much faster. :)


On 12/17/20, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing
> AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a
> different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of
> Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
> Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems
> better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the
> lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can
> do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it
> since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking
> about it.
>
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation
> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me
> when I was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
>
> 
> Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
> envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
> subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent
> years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than
> seeing ai?  How?
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Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[Richard Turner]

I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing 
AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a 
different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice 
Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need.
Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better 
than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime 
subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly 
or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine 
with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that envision 
ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of 
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comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai

[kitty hevener]

Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps.  I know that
envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly
subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent
years.  That seems kinda expensive to me.  Is it significantly better than
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Re: Envision ai

[Richard Turner]

In my humble opinion, Envision AI is useless.
But, more importantly, no color identifier on a smart phone is worth bothering 
with.
If you want reliable color identification, use a human, or buy the Rainbow II 
device.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Aug 29, 2019, at 11:52 AM, 'Candie Stiles' via VIPhone 
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I just downloaded the envision IA app and I can't get the color detection to 
work. When I double tap the button, the phone vibrates but then nothing else 
happens. No colors are anounced. I made sure there was sufficient lighting. How 
is color detection working for others?

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Envision ai

['Candie Stiles' via VIPhone]

I just downloaded the envision IA app and I can't get the color detection to 
work. When I double tap the button, the phone vibrates but then nothing else 
happens. No colors are anounced. I made sure there was sufficient lighting. How 
is color detection working for others?

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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Richard Turner]

You and me both, grin.

Richard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Downloading envision AI?

I don’t need Invision AI for help spending money!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

It will empty your bank account faster than Seeing AI.
 It will empty your bank account faster than seeing AI.
Richard

Arthur C. Clarke's third law says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
indistinguishable from magic."
(Sent from the magical iPhone SE)
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Penny Reeder 
mailto:penny.ree...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 As do i.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
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Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, list.
I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?
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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don’t need Invision AI for help spending money!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

It will empty your bank account faster than Seeing AI.
 It will empty your bank account faster than seeing AI.
Richard

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indistinguishable from magic."
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:
 As do i.
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
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does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?
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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Fazil,

 

I had previously downloaded Envision AI to my iPhone 8 but had never set up an 
online account with them. When I opened the app yesterday to look into the 
steep discounts they've been promoting, I went ahead and selected the option to 
create an account using my email address and the password I provided. Since the 
app had already been downloaded, I was not prompted to provide my Apple ID but 
I'm sure I used Touch ID when I originally downloaded it. After logging in with 
my new account, I heard Voiceover speak that I was using the 14-day free trial.

 

I don't know if any of the above helps but I thought I'd provide the details of 
my account setup experience in case it might.

 

Good luck with your efforts. I know others have posted about why one would need 
Envision AI with the other free or less expensive options available but there 
are aspects of the Envision AI user interface that I do like. And while $38 for 
a lifetime license isn't inexpensive, that is a significant discount from its 
usual price.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Fazil
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Downloading envision AI?

 

Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
without giving me 14-day-trial?

Thanks!

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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Richard Turner]

It will empty your bank account faster than Seeing AI.
 It will empty your bank account faster than seeing AI.

Richard

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On Aug 2, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Penny Reeder  wrote:

 As do i.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, list.
I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Penny Reeder]

As do i.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI 
> and other apps don’t do just as well or better?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?
>  
> Yes, I also have the same scenario..
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
> On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
>  I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
> email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging 
> back into the app.
>  
>  
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:
> Hi, list.
> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but 
> it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I 
> double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my 
> Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right 
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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Fazil]

You are absolutely write, Sieghard.

I think the only benefit is that it reads .pdf  and it is said that it can give 
you barcode, for me it is still to be verified.

Thanks!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Downloading envision AI?

 

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

 

Yes, I also have the same scenario..

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!


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 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
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into the app.

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
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RE: Downloading envision AI?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just curious, but what specifically does this app do for you that Seeing AI and 
other apps don’t do just as well or better?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 7:48 AM
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Subject: Re: Downloading envision AI?

Yes, I also have the same scenario..
Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones 
mailto:grou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging back 
into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil 
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Hi, list.
I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but it 
does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I double 
tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my Apple ID 
and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right away 
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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Anthony Vece]

Yes, I also have the same scenario..

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Dave Jones  wrote:
> 
>  I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior 
> email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging 
> back into the app.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:
>> Hi, list.
>> 
>> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
>> 
>> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but 
>> it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I 
>> double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my 
>> Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right 
>> away without giving me 14-day-trial?
>> 
>> Thanks!
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Re: Downloading envision AI?

[Dave Jones]

 I open the app to check out an extended free trial as suggested in a prior
email. I ran into the same obstacle. No free trial extension after logging
back into the app.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:16 AM Fazil  wrote:

> Hi, list.
>
> I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.
>
> I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial
> but it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases.
> When I double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store
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> app right away without giving me 14-day-trial?
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Downloading envision AI?

[Fazil]

Hi, list.

I have iPhone5S with iOS12.4.

I tried to download Envision AI today. It says it is a 14-day free trial but
it does not give me a download option. It says get in app purchases. When I
double tapped on get button, it wanted me to sign in to itune Store with my
Apple ID and Password. Does it mean that they wanted me to buy the app right
away without giving me 14-day-trial?

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Envision AI - Holiday Sale for a limited time

[dafni]

Hi everyone!

I hope you're all doing good. Through this thread I wanted to inform you 
that Envision AI has a holiday sale and offers 30% off of all subscriptions 
on iOS, only for December.
Christmas is coming!
Click here 
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download.

PS: Please, feel free to reach out if you have any issues or great ideas 
you'd like to share with us!

Best,
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Re: Updated Envision AI

[Richard Turner]

Well, it must have been gremlins at home this morning.
I tried it at work, and the function does work.
I will play with it as I have time and give any specific feedback I can.
Thanks,
Richard



(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Jan 22, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Karthik Kannan 
mailto:karthikk@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey Richard,

Thanks for giving it a shot. I wasn't able to replicate the issue that you 
found with the updated version. Just to be clear, double tapping on the live 
text mode starts it and you should be able to hear a sound when it starts. 
Double tapping on the button again would make it stop.

I will try this out on a iPhone 6s myself and get back to you if there are any 
issues that I notice.

Thanks,
Karthik

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 3:22:27 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:
I redownloaded this new version.
I double tapped on Live Text mode and it will not switch from off to on.
Double tapping on read document also had no impact.
I tried the general recognition tab and double tapped on scene description.  
After a very long time it decided that my laptop might be a lamp sitting on a 
desk.
I deleted the app, and reinstalled it, just in case there was an issue the 
first time.
No change in my results.  This is with an iPhone 6S.

I’ll stick with Seeing AI, which simply works, especially with the Short Text 
mode, but all of its other channels work well too.

Richard
.




From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karthik Kannan
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 5:53 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Updated Envision AI

Hello,

I'm the developer of Envision AI. After a lot of community testing and support, 
we've reworked a lot of our old UI in favour a new, simpler and improved UI. 
Instead of having a row of 5-6 buttons with the user having to scroll through 
them one by one, we split the app into 3 different tabs - one for text 
recognition, one for general recognition and one for help and support. Under 
text recognition, you would find the live text and document text mode, under 
general recognition you would find the scene description and training mode.

The app is also fully translated and available Czech, Dutch, German and Hebrew. 
We've had very enthusiastic folks from the community who helped us out with the 
translations. I would love for the community to try it out and give us feedback 
on what can be improved. As always, I would be around to answer any questions 
you might have about the app.

Here's a link to the latest version: 
http://goo.gl/fptaYQ<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FfptaYQ&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb16467071d2140fd745f08d5619f6487%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636522259562442860&sdata=CmytB6d1MmapFy9cjZhZZCAiveEfJQU6OdqI20ID7Ys%3D&reserved=0>

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Re: Updated Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Richard, 

Thanks for giving it a shot. I wasn't able to replicate the issue that you 
found with the updated version. Just to be clear, double tapping on the 
live text mode starts it and you should be able to hear a sound when it 
starts. Double tapping on the button again would make it stop. 

I will try this out on a iPhone 6s myself and get back to you if there are 
any issues that I notice. 

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Monday, January 22, 2018 at 3:22:27 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:
>
> I redownloaded this new version.
>
> I double tapped on Live Text mode and it will not switch from off to on.
>
> Double tapping on read document also had no impact.
>
> I tried the general recognition tab and double tapped on scene 
> description.  After a very long time it decided that my laptop might be a 
> lamp sitting on a desk.
>
> I deleted the app, and reinstalled it, just in case there was an issue the 
> first time.
>
> No change in my results.  This is with an iPhone 6S.
>
>  
>
> I’ll stick with Seeing AI, which simply works, especially with the Short 
> Text mode, but all of its other channels work well too.
>
>  
>
> Richard
>
> .
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2018 5:53 AM
> *To:* VIPhone >
> *Subject:* Updated Envision AI
>
>  
>
> Hello, 
>
>  
>
> I'm the developer of Envision AI. After a lot of community testing and 
> support, we've reworked a lot of our old UI in favour a new, simpler and 
> improved UI. Instead of having a row of 5-6 buttons with the user having to 
> scroll through them one by one, we split the app into 3 different tabs - 
> one for text recognition, one for general recognition and one for help and 
> support. Under text recognition, you would find the live text and document 
> text mode, under general recognition you would find the scene description 
> and training mode.
>
>  
>
> The app is also fully translated and available Czech, Dutch, German and 
> Hebrew. We've had very enthusiastic folks from the community who helped us 
> out with the translations. I would love for the community to try it out and 
> give us feedback on what can be improved. As always, I would be around to 
> answer any questions you might have about the app. 
>
>  
>
> Here's a link to the latest version: http://goo.gl/fptaYQ 
> <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FfptaYQ&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb16467071d2140fd745f08d5619f6487%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636522259562442860&sdata=CmytB6d1MmapFy9cjZhZZCAiveEfJQU6OdqI20ID7Ys%3D&reserved=0>
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> Thanks, 
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> Karthik
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RE: Updated Envision AI

[Richard Turner]

I redownloaded this new version.
I double tapped on Live Text mode and it will not switch from off to on.
Double tapping on read document also had no impact.
I tried the general recognition tab and double tapped on scene description.  
After a very long time it decided that my laptop might be a lamp sitting on a 
desk.
I deleted the app, and reinstalled it, just in case there was an issue the 
first time.
No change in my results.  This is with an iPhone 6S.

I’ll stick with Seeing AI, which simply works, especially with the Short Text 
mode, but all of its other channels work well too.

Richard
.




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Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 5:53 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Updated Envision AI

Hello,

I'm the developer of Envision AI. After a lot of community testing and support, 
we've reworked a lot of our old UI in favour a new, simpler and improved UI. 
Instead of having a row of 5-6 buttons with the user having to scroll through 
them one by one, we split the app into 3 different tabs - one for text 
recognition, one for general recognition and one for help and support. Under 
text recognition, you would find the live text and document text mode, under 
general recognition you would find the scene description and training mode.

The app is also fully translated and available Czech, Dutch, German and Hebrew. 
We've had very enthusiastic folks from the community who helped us out with the 
translations. I would love for the community to try it out and give us feedback 
on what can be improved. As always, I would be around to answer any questions 
you might have about the app.

Here's a link to the latest version: 
http://goo.gl/fptaYQ<https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FfptaYQ&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb16467071d2140fd745f08d5619f6487%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636522259562442860&sdata=CmytB6d1MmapFy9cjZhZZCAiveEfJQU6OdqI20ID7Ys%3D&reserved=0>

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Updated Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hello, 

I'm the developer of Envision AI. After a lot of community testing and 
support, we've reworked a lot of our old UI in favour a new, simpler and 
improved UI. Instead of having a row of 5-6 buttons with the user having to 
scroll through them one by one, we split the app into 3 different tabs - 
one for text recognition, one for general recognition and one for help and 
support. Under text recognition, you would find the live text and document 
text mode, under general recognition you would find the scene description 
and training mode.

The app is also fully translated and available Czech, Dutch, German and 
Hebrew. We've had very enthusiastic folks from the community who helped us 
out with the translations. I would love for the community to try it out and 
give us feedback on what can be improved. As always, I would be around to 
answer any questions you might have about the app. 

Here's a link to the latest version: http://goo.gl/fptaYQ

Thanks, 
Karthik

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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Ann!

That's awesome! Our big focus is on text too. We're hoping to make Envision 
the best text recognition platform possible for the community. We'll 
continue to refine text recognition further on our platform with future 
updates. 

Please let me know if you're facing further issues with the platform, i'll 
around to answer them.

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 4:33:00 AM UTC+1, Ann Byrne wrote:
>
> I love it!  I used it with my iPhone SE, especially to read the 
> stinkin' computer screen when the screen readers won't do 
> it.  "updating ... don't turn off your computer."The picture 
> identification helped to discover whether I had found HDMI2 on the 
> TV--before we bought a TV that would speak the connection.  I also 
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> care.  The text function is far more important to me than the pictures. 
>
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Re: Envision AI

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

Hallo Karthik,

Opportunistically jumping in here, but I note you said you would be working 
on other apps, hopefully, with us in mind. Well, we have a slew of light 
detection apps, many of which are free, but, to my mind, none reflect the 
current state of technological potential. I would like a light detector app 
which can tell me if an electric light is on, what colour it is, if it is 
blinking and iff there are more than one in the view of the camera. This would 
be useful both for led lights, such as on appliances, charging batteries etc, 
but also for general lighting around the house, as this is becoming more 
inventive with colour filters etc.What do you think? Is it doable?

Thanks for all your good work, Sandy.  

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 30 Nov 2017, at 20:46, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> 
> Hey Lelia, 
> 
> Please update to the latest version of Envision AI. That should fix bugs that 
> was there in the earlier version. The document text version might take just a 
> little longer if your internet connection is slow. We're currently working on 
> a release that also fixes the issue with live text mode and other things and 
> it will get as stable as it was in our first major beta release
> 
> We're working on Envision AI as a full-time startup with a lot more to come 
> so we'll be around for always to answer your question. :)
> 
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
> 
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:42 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>> Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
>> you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
>> keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life 
>> as well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated 
>> that you are responding to the community. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update 
>> but the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either reading 
>> documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get anything.  When I 
>> try with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you can give me some 
>> tips? Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to wait a bit longer? 
>> These are just questions I’m asking.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Again, thanks.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Lelia
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Karthik Kannan
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: Re: Envision AI
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi Leila, 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
>> Portrait. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> 
>> Karthik
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
>> what you think of it?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem 
>> to do anything with it even with this latest update.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> lelia
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Re: Envision AI

[Alvin Ng]

How about chinese?

On 1 Dec 2017, at 5:18 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:

Hey Anthony, 

Not forgetting Italian. Haha. We're adding support for German, Spanish, Italian 
and French with this release. We already fully support Dutch. 

And our document text mode can already read Italian text in the Italian 
dialect. Give it a shot and let me know!

Thanks, 
Karthik

> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:14:51 PM UTC+1, Anthony Vece wrote:
> Don’t forget to add Italian!
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>> 
>> And also, Envision can read both Spanish and Portuguese in the dialect of 
>> the speaker. And in the next release of Envision we will add Spanish support 
>> to the app. 
>> 
>> Hope that helps. :)
>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>>> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
>>> all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
>>> Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
>>> forward to usimg your app.
>>> 
>>> Gera
>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>>> 
>>> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
>>> escribió:
>>> 
 
 I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
 portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
 I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
 Richard
 
 
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> Hi Leila, 
> 
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>> ask what you think of it?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> lelia
>> 
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RE: Envision AI

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just downloaded this app and tried a few things. I took a few pictures around 
the bedroom and it gave me various information such as “Looks like a bed in a 
dark room” or “looks like abed and a small desk” (that one had the night table 
in the frame). I then turned on the overhead light and took a few more pictures 
from maybe 6 feet in front of our dresser and it said “Looks like a wooden 
cabinet”, then again the bed and it said “looks like a made up bed in a hotel 
room” (the bed was made up). Then a picture of the corner where my dog was 
lying and it said “looks like a dog lying on the floor”.
I also took a picture of a 4 Liter box of red win and it didn’t get that one, 
said it looked like a sign. When I tried the life text on the big side of the 
box it didn’t give me anything, Seeing AI told me instantly “Red Wine” and a 
few other things.
I then trained it to recognize the Red Wine which happens to be called “Screw 
It”, it’s a British Columbia wine I quite like. I took the 4 or 5 pictures, put 
in the name “Screw It Red Wine” and then after I saved it I took a picture of 
the side where I trained it from and it said “Looks like your Screw It Red 
Wine”, I tried the other side and it gave me the same information. Would be 
interesting to see if I had another boxed wine there if it could tell the 
difference.
I did try the one narrow side of the box with the live text function and it did 
read some stuff, but not as well as with the Seeing AI Short Text channel.

I also took several pictures of my yellow lab, Radar, while he was sitting 
facing me from maybe 2 or 3 feet away. I trained it to say “Radar” and when I 
took several pictures even from the side and a bit from behind it always said 
“Looks like your Radar”.
However, when I took the picture from further away it said “Looks like a dog 
lying on the floor”.
I tried a couple of pictures of a wool sweater which I spread out on the bed 
and I took the pictures from 2 or so feet above it, first time it said “Looks 
like a purple shirt”, it’s neither a shirt nor is it purple whatsoever. The 
second from a bit of a different angle said “lLooks like a green blanket on a 
bed” which of course is even more off.

In conclusion, the app has some potential and the ability to train it for 
objects is quite nice, almost a bit like the old LookTel Recognizer, but seems 
a lot easier to do. I haven’t tried training it for faces, but I have done so 
with Seeing AI and it is very good.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Envision AI

I too am getting no action with this app. Just a “done” button. This is on my 
SE running the latest iOS. I noticed this lack of usability only after the most 
recent update.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lelia
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Envision AI

Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life as 
well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated that 
you are responding to the community.

Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update but 
the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either reading 
documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get anything.  When I try 
with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you can give me some tips? 
Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to wait a bit longer? These 
are just questions I’m asking.

Again, thanks.

Lelia

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Envision AI

Hi Leila,

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait.

Thanks,
Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it?

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update.

Thanks

lelia
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Re: Envision AI

[Ann Byrne]

I love it!  I used it with my iPhone SE, especially to read the 
stinkin' computer screen when the screen readers won't do 
it.  "updating ... don't turn off your computer."The picture 
identification helped to discover whether I had found HDMI2 on the 
TV--before we bought a TV that would speak the connection.  I also 
use it to snapshot the addresses on the mail, so I know if I Have to 
care.  The text function is far more important to me than the pictures.


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Re: Envision AI

[Anthony Vece]

Ok.
Thanks

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> 
> Hey Anthony, 
> 
> Not forgetting Italian. Haha. We're adding support for German, Spanish, 
> Italian and French with this release. We already fully support Dutch. 
> 
> And our document text mode can already read Italian text in the Italian 
> dialect. Give it a shot and let me know!
> 
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
> 
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:14:51 PM UTC+1, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> Don’t forget to add Italian!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And also, Envision can read both Spanish and Portuguese in the dialect of 
>>> the speaker. And in the next release of Envision we will add Spanish 
>>> support to the app. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps. :)
>>> 
 On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio 
 wrote:
 Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
 all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
 Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
 forward to usimg your app.
 
 Gera
 Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
 
 El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
 escribió:
 
> 
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Leila, 
>> 
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
>> Portrait. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Karthik
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>>> ask what you think of it?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> lelia
>>> 
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RE: Envision AI

[Cristóbal]

The most recent example has been if I’m on Twitter and double press and hold on 
an image to bring up the various options and then select Envision AI, instead 
of there being some sort of OCR text recognition from a screenshot for example, 
I just get that done button. Could have sworn it worked similarly to Seeing AI 
before, but then again, maybe I was only half paying attention and used the 
other app instead. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:17 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Envision AI

 

Hello Cristobal, 

 

When is this happening? Can you please tell me what action you're trying to 
achieve? Is this happening when you're trying to train new objects or faces? 
This will help me troubleshoot the app further!

 

Thanks, 

Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:14:31 PM UTC+1, Cristobal Munoz wrote:

I too am getting no action with this app. Just a “done” button. This is on my 
SE running the latest iOS. I noticed this lack of usability only after the most 
recent update. 

 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Lelia
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:37 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Envision AI

 

Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life as 
well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated that 
you are responding to the community.  

 

Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update but 
the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either reading 
documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get anything.  When I try 
with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you can give me some tips? 
Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to wait a bit longer? These 
are just questions I’m asking.

 

Again, thanks.

 

Lelia 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:...@googlegroups.com 
 ] On Behalf Of Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
To: VIPhone  >
Subject: Re: Envision AI

 

Hi Leila, 

 

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait. 

 

Thanks, 

Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:

Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update. 

 

Thanks

 

lelia

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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Thanks, Gerardo! Looking forward to your feedback. :)

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:15:09 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>
> Latest iOs 11.1.2. Thanks for these tips! I’ll give then a go, and report.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>
> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 3:04 p. m., Karthik Kannan  > escribió:
>
> Hey Gerardo, 
>
> Quick question, what iOS version are you running? We support iOS 10 and 
> above. Are you now tapping the Live Text mode button and not getting any 
> response? Did you try reading with document text instead? We're definitely 
> commited to making Envision work on all devices running iOS 10 and above so 
> please let us know if something is off with the app.
>
> Regards, 
> Karthik
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:
>>
>> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; 
>> not all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here 
>> in Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was 
>> looking forward to usimg your app.
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>>
>> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
>> escribió:
>>
>>
>> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
>> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
>> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> 🖖🏿
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leila,  
>>
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
>> Portrait. 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Karthik
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>>> ask what you think of it? 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> lelia
>>>
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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Anthony, 

Not forgetting Italian. Haha. We're adding support for German, Spanish, 
Italian and French with this release. We already fully support Dutch. 

And our document text mode can already read Italian text in the Italian 
dialect. Give it a shot and let me know!

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:14:51 PM UTC+1, Anthony Vece wrote:
>
> Don’t forget to add Italian!
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!
>
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Karthik Kannan  > wrote:
>
> And also, Envision can read both Spanish and Portuguese in the dialect of 
> the speaker. And in the next release of Envision we will add Spanish 
> support to the app. 
>
> Hope that helps. :)
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:
>>
>> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; 
>> not all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here 
>> in Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was 
>> looking forward to usimg your app.
>>
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>>
>> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
>> escribió:
>>
>>
>> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
>> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
>> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>> 🖖🏿
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leila,  
>>
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
>> Portrait. 
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Karthik
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>>> ask what you think of it? 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> lelia
>>>
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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hello Cristobal, 

When is this happening? Can you please tell me what action you're trying to 
achieve? Is this happening when you're trying to train new objects or 
faces? This will help me troubleshoot the app further!

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:14:31 PM UTC+1, Cristobal Munoz wrote:
>
> I too am getting no action with this app. Just a “done” button. This is on 
> my SE running the latest iOS. I noticed this lack of usability only after 
> the most recent update. 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Lelia
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:37 PM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* RE: Envision AI
>
>  
>
> Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
> you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
> keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life 
> as well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated 
> that you are responding to the community.  
>
>  
>
> Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update 
> but the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either 
> reading documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get 
> anything.  When I try with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you 
> can give me some tips? Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to 
> wait a bit longer? These are just questions I’m asking.
>
>  
>
> Again, thanks.
>
>  
>
> Lelia 
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:...@googlegroups.com 
> ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
> *To:* VIPhone >
> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI
>
>  
>
> Hi Leila, 
>
>  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it? 
>
>  
>
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> lelia
>
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Re: Envision AI

[Gerardo Corripio]

Latest iOs 11.1.2. Thanks for these tips! I’ll give then a go, and report.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 3:04 p. m., Karthik Kannan  
escribió:

> Hey Gerardo, 
> 
> Quick question, what iOS version are you running? We support iOS 10 and 
> above. Are you now tapping the Live Text mode button and not getting any 
> response? Did you try reading with document text instead? We're definitely 
> commited to making Envision work on all devices running iOS 10 and above so 
> please let us know if something is off with the app.
> 
> Regards, 
> Karthik
> 
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
>> all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
>> Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
>> forward to usimg your app.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>> 
>> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
>> escribió:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
>>> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
>>> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 🖖🏿
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Leila, 
 
 I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
 still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
 with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
 Portrait. 
 
 Thanks, 
 Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it?
> 
>  
> 
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> lelia
> 
 
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Re: Envision AI

[Anthony Vece]

Don’t forget to add Italian!


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> 
> And also, Envision can read both Spanish and Portuguese in the dialect of the 
> speaker. And in the next release of Envision we will add Spanish support to 
> the app. 
> 
> Hope that helps. :)
> 
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
>> all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
>> Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
>> forward to usimg your app.
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>> 
>> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
>> escribió:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
>>> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
>>> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
>>> flying.
>>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
>>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>> 🖖🏿
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Leila, 
 
 I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
 still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
 with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
 Portrait. 
 
 Thanks, 
 Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it?
> 
>  
> 
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks
> 
>  
> 
> lelia
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RE: Envision AI

[Cristóbal]

I too am getting no action with this app. Just a “done” button. This is on my 
SE running the latest iOS. I noticed this lack of usability only after the most 
recent update. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Envision AI

 

Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life as 
well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated that 
you are responding to the community.  

 

Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update but 
the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either reading 
documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get anything.  When I try 
with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you can give me some tips? 
Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to wait a bit longer? These 
are just questions I’m asking.

 

Again, thanks.

 

Lelia 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Envision AI

 

Hi Leila, 

 

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait. 

 

Thanks, 

Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:

Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update. 

 

Thanks

 

lelia

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Re: Envision AI

[lenron brown]

Good to hear. I really must download and give it a spin. I must say I
love the fact you can train it to know what things are.

On 11/30/17, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> Hey Lenron,
>
> Yes, it tells you the color and the type of clothing. But then again, the
> angle at which you take the shot might influence the caption a little bit.
> We're working on fixing this at a later release.
>
> Thanks,
> Karthik
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:07:50 PM UTC+1, lenron brown wrote:
>>
>> How does this app work when scanning clothing? Does it tell you
>> colors? What type of clothing it is?
>>
>> On 11/30/17, Karthik Kannan > wrote:
>> > Hey Cris!
>> >
>> > Thanks for trying us out and welcome to the Envision AI community.
>> >
>> > Coming to your question, we believe our biggest strength is reading
>> text.
>> > You can point at any surface and tap on our "Live Text Mode" button to
>> read
>> >
>> > it like in the case of Seeing AI.  "Read Documents" is useful when you
>> want
>> >
>> > to read long text in the app or when you want to share some piece of
>> text
>> > across apps, this is useful when you want to scan your ID card and share
>> >
>> > some number or read letters, etc.
>> >
>> > We also do scene captioning(that happens when you tap anywhere on the
>> > screen), train faces of friends/family but also train your personal
>> > belongings. Our users train objects like their keys, wallets, etc. to
>> > identify them easily from other common objects.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps. Please let me know your thoughts on the app. Would
>> around
>> > here more to answer any questions you have.
>> >
>> > Warm Regards,
>> > Karthik
>> >
>> > On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:46 PM UTC+1, Cris Ali wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi folks,
>> >>
>> >> I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave
>> >>
>> it
>> >>
>> >> a test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I
>> pointed
>> >>
>> >> it on my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a
>> >> keyboard.  I pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it
>> is a
>> >>
>> >> folded paper.  Of course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine,
>> Now:
>> >>
>> >> What are the situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely
>> >> different from tap tap see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course
>> >> Seeing
>> >> AI has the advantage of reading.  If I point it at the computer, It
>> won’t
>> >>
>> >> tell me what I already know as a computer, instead, it will read what
>> is
>> >> on
>> >> the computer monitor to me.  If I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the
>> >>
>> >> table, It won’t tell me this is an envelope, but rather will tell me
>> the
>> >> name of the sender and the name of the recipient on the envelope.
>> >>
>> >> I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I
>> >>
>> >> just need to discover them or be told what they are.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cris
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> >> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
>> >> *To:* VIPhone >
>> >> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP
>> >>
>> and
>> >>
>> >> get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the
>> future
>> >>
>> >> we can fix this issue and have you back.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in
>> >>
>> >> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
>> >>
>> >> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>> >>
>

Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Lenron, 

Yes, it tells you the color and the type of clothing. But then again, the 
angle at which you take the shot might influence the caption a little bit. 
We're working on fixing this at a later release. 

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:07:50 PM UTC+1, lenron brown wrote:
>
> How does this app work when scanning clothing? Does it tell you 
> colors? What type of clothing it is? 
>
> On 11/30/17, Karthik Kannan > wrote: 
> > Hey Cris! 
> > 
> > Thanks for trying us out and welcome to the Envision AI community. 
> > 
> > Coming to your question, we believe our biggest strength is reading 
> text. 
> > You can point at any surface and tap on our "Live Text Mode" button to 
> read 
> > 
> > it like in the case of Seeing AI.  "Read Documents" is useful when you 
> want 
> > 
> > to read long text in the app or when you want to share some piece of 
> text 
> > across apps, this is useful when you want to scan your ID card and share 
> > some number or read letters, etc. 
> > 
> > We also do scene captioning(that happens when you tap anywhere on the 
> > screen), train faces of friends/family but also train your personal 
> > belongings. Our users train objects like their keys, wallets, etc. to 
> > identify them easily from other common objects. 
> > 
> > Hope that helps. Please let me know your thoughts on the app. Would 
> around 
> > here more to answer any questions you have. 
> > 
> > Warm Regards, 
> > Karthik 
> > 
> > On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:46 PM UTC+1, Cris Ali wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi folks, 
> >> 
> >> I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave 
> it 
> >> 
> >> a test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I 
> pointed 
> >> 
> >> it on my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a 
> >> keyboard.  I pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it 
> is a 
> >> 
> >> folded paper.  Of course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, 
> Now: 
> >> 
> >> What are the situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely 
> >> different from tap tap see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course 
> >> Seeing 
> >> AI has the advantage of reading.  If I point it at the computer, It 
> won’t 
> >> 
> >> tell me what I already know as a computer, instead, it will read what 
> is 
> >> on 
> >> the computer monitor to me.  If I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the 
> >> table, It won’t tell me this is an envelope, but rather will tell me 
> the 
> >> name of the sender and the name of the recipient on the envelope. 
> >> 
> >> I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I 
> >> just need to discover them or be told what they are. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Cris 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto: 
> >> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan 
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM 
> >> *To:* VIPhone > 
> >> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP 
> and 
> >> 
> >> get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the 
> future 
> >> 
> >> we can fix this issue and have you back. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> >> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
> >> 
> >> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well. 
> >> 
> >> Richard 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
> of 
> >> flying. 
> >> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
> in 
> >> 
> >> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." 
> >> 
> >> 🖖🏿 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi Leila, 
> >> 
> >> 
> >&g

Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

And also, Envision can read both Spanish and Portuguese in the dialect of 
the speaker. And in the next release of Envision we will add Spanish 
support to the app. 

Hope that helps. :)

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>
> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
> all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
> Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
> forward to usimg your app.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>
> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  > escribió:
>
>
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  > wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>>
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>> ask what you think of it? 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>> lelia
>>
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Re: Envision AI

[lenron brown]

How does this app work when scanning clothing? Does it tell you
colors? What type of clothing it is?

On 11/30/17, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> Hey Cris!
>
> Thanks for trying us out and welcome to the Envision AI community.
>
> Coming to your question, we believe our biggest strength is reading text.
> You can point at any surface and tap on our "Live Text Mode" button to read
>
> it like in the case of Seeing AI.  "Read Documents" is useful when you want
>
> to read long text in the app or when you want to share some piece of text
> across apps, this is useful when you want to scan your ID card and share
> some number or read letters, etc.
>
> We also do scene captioning(that happens when you tap anywhere on the
> screen), train faces of friends/family but also train your personal
> belongings. Our users train objects like their keys, wallets, etc. to
> identify them easily from other common objects.
>
> Hope that helps. Please let me know your thoughts on the app. Would around
> here more to answer any questions you have.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Karthik
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:46 PM UTC+1, Cris Ali wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave it
>>
>> a test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I pointed
>>
>> it on my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a
>> keyboard.  I pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it is a
>>
>> folded paper.  Of course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, Now:
>>
>> What are the situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely
>> different from tap tap see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course
>> Seeing
>> AI has the advantage of reading.  If I point it at the computer, It won’t
>>
>> tell me what I already know as a computer, instead, it will read what is
>> on
>> the computer monitor to me.  If I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the
>> table, It won’t tell me this is an envelope, but rather will tell me the
>> name of the sender and the name of the recipient on the envelope.
>>
>> I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I
>> just need to discover them or be told what they are.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Cris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
>> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone >
>> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI
>>
>>
>>
>> Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and
>>
>> get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future
>>
>> we can fix this issue and have you back.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in
>> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
>>
>> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of
>> flying.
>> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in
>>
>> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>>
>> 🖖🏿
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leila,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on
>> Portrait.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Karthik
>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to
>> ask what you think of it?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t
>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>> lelia
>>
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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Gerardo, 

Quick question, what iOS version are you running? We support iOS 10 and 
above. Are you now tapping the Live Text mode button and not getting any 
response? Did you try reading with document text instead? We're definitely 
commited to making Envision work on all devices running iOS 10 and above so 
please let us know if something is off with the app.

Regards, 
Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 10:00:43 PM UTC+1, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>
> Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not 
> all of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
> Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
> forward to usimg your app.
>
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel
>
> El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  > escribió:
>
>
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  > wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>>
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>> ask what you think of it? 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>> lelia
>>
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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Cris!

Thanks for trying us out and welcome to the Envision AI community. 

Coming to your question, we believe our biggest strength is reading text. 
You can point at any surface and tap on our "Live Text Mode" button to read 
it like in the case of Seeing AI.  "Read Documents" is useful when you want 
to read long text in the app or when you want to share some piece of text 
across apps, this is useful when you want to scan your ID card and share 
some number or read letters, etc.

We also do scene captioning(that happens when you tap anywhere on the 
screen), train faces of friends/family but also train your personal 
belongings. Our users train objects like their keys, wallets, etc. to 
identify them easily from other common objects. 

Hope that helps. Please let me know your thoughts on the app. Would around 
here more to answer any questions you have.

Warm Regards, 
Karthik 

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:46 PM UTC+1, Cris Ali wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave it 
> a test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I pointed 
> it on my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a 
> keyboard.  I pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it is a 
> folded paper.  Of course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, Now: 
> What are the situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely 
> different from tap tap see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course Seeing 
> AI has the advantage of reading.  If I point it at the computer, It won’t 
> tell me what I already know as a computer, instead, it will read what is on 
> the computer monitor to me.  If I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the 
> table, It won’t tell me this is an envelope, but rather will tell me the 
> name of the sender and the name of the recipient on the envelope.
>
> I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I 
> just need to discover them or be told what they are.
>
> Cheers,
>
>  
>
> Cris
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
> *To:* VIPhone >
> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI
>
>  
>
> Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and 
> get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future 
> we can fix this issue and have you back. 
>
>
> On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:
>
>  
>
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
>
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
>
> Richard
>
>  
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
>
> 🖖🏿
>
>  
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,  
>
>  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it? 
>
>  
>
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> lelia
>
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Re: Envision AI

[Gerardo Corripio]

Using a 5S too, nothing is read either. Hopefully a solution ia found; not all 
of us have the meams to have the latest/greatest, especially here in 
Latinamerica, and the Seeing AI app isn’t available here, thus was looking 
forward to usimg your app.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 30/11/2017, a la(s) 2:01 p. m., Richard Turner  
escribió:

> 
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all.
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Leila, 
>> 
>> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
>> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
>> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
>> Portrait. 
>> 
>> Thanks, 
>> Karthik
>>> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
>>> what you think of it?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem 
>>> to do anything with it even with this latest update.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> lelia
>>> 
>> 
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Re: Envision AI

[Andy Baracco]

Portrait is the normal way of holding the phone with length going from top to 
bottom. Landscape is what I would call sideways.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lelia 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:37 PM
  Subject: RE: Envision AI


  I forget how to put my phone in portrait, can someone remind me please?

   

  Thanks 

   

  Lelia

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:37 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Envision AI

   

  Hi folks,

  I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave it a 
test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I pointed it on 
my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a keyboard.  I 
pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it is a folded paper.  Of 
course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, Now: What are the 
situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely different from tap tap 
see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course Seeing AI has the advantage of 
reading.  If I point it at the computer, It won’t tell me what I already know 
as a computer, instead, it will read what is on the computer monitor to me.  If 
I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the table, It won’t tell me this is an 
envelope, but rather will tell me the name of the sender and the name of the 
recipient on the envelope.

  I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I just 
need to discover them or be told what they are.

  Cheers,

   

  Cris

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Karthik Kannan
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
  To: VIPhone 
  Subject: Re: Envision AI

   

  Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and 
get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future we 
can fix this issue and have you back. 


  On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:

 

I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 

I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  wrote:

  Hi Leila,  

   

  I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with 
using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait. 

   

  Thanks, 

  Karthik
  On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 

Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
ask what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 

 

Thanks

 

lelia

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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hey Lelia, 

Please update to the latest version of Envision AI. That should fix bugs 
that was there in the earlier version. The document text version might take 
just a little longer if your internet connection is slow. We're currently 
working on a release that also fixes the issue with live text mode and 
other things and it will get as stable as it was in our first major beta 
release

We're working on Envision AI as a full-time startup with a lot more to come 
so we'll be around for always to answer your question. :)

Thanks, 
Karthik

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:36:42 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>
> Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
> you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
> keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life 
> as well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated 
> that you are responding to the community.  
>
>  
>
> Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update 
> but the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either 
> reading documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get 
> anything.  When I try with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you 
> can give me some tips? Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to 
> wait a bit longer? These are just questions I’m asking.
>
>  
>
> Again, thanks.
>
>  
>
> Lelia 
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Karthik Kannan
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
> *To:* VIPhone >
> *Subject:* Re: Envision AI
>
>  
>
> Hi Leila, 
>
>  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks, 
>
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it? 
>
>  
>
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> lelia
>
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RE: Envision AI

[Lelia]

I forget how to put my phone in portrait, can someone remind me please?

 

Thanks 

 

Lelia

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Envision AI

 

Hi folks,

I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave it a 
test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I pointed it on 
my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a keyboard.  I 
pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it is a folded paper.  Of 
course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, Now: What are the 
situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely different from tap tap 
see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course Seeing AI has the advantage of 
reading.  If I point it at the computer, It won’t tell me what I already know 
as a computer, instead, it will read what is on the computer monitor to me.  If 
I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the table, It won’t tell me this is an 
envelope, but rather will tell me the name of the sender and the name of the 
recipient on the envelope.

I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I just 
need to discover them or be told what they are.

Cheers,

 

Cris

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Envision AI

 

Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and get 
back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future we can 
fix this issue and have you back. 


On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:

 

I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in portrait 
mode, nothing is read at all. 

I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.

Richard

 

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."

🖖🏿

 


On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  
> wrote:

Hi Leila,  

 

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait. 

 

Thanks, 

Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 

Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update. 

 

Thanks

 

lelia

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RE: Envision AI

[Cris Ali]

Hi folks,
I only heard of envision AI from this thread.  I downloaded it and gave it a 
test on iPhone SE.  It worked just fine in the portrait mode.  I pointed it on 
my laptop and it said, It  looks like a computer monitor and a keyboard.  I 
pointed it at an envelope on the table and it told me it is a folded paper.  Of 
course I knew exactly what I am pointing at.  Fine, Now: What are the 
situations which one may find envision AI so uniquely different from tap tap 
see, or Cam find or any such apps?  Of course Seeing AI has the advantage of 
reading.  If I point it at the computer, It won’t tell me what I already know 
as a computer, instead, it will read what is on the computer monitor to me.  If 
I point Seeing Ai at an envelope on the table, It won’t tell me this is an 
envelope, but rather will tell me the name of the sender and the name of the 
recipient on the envelope.
I am sure there are special situations that make envision AI unique.  I just 
need to discover them or be told what they are.
Cheers,

Cris


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Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Envision AI

Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and get 
back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future we can 
fix this issue and have you back.

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:

I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in portrait 
mode, nothing is read at all.
I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
Richard

"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿


On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan > 
wrote:
Hi Leila,

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait.

Thanks,
Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it?

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update.

Thanks

lelia
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RE: Envision AI

[Lelia]

Hi Karthik, first let me tell you I am so happy that in the applevis forum 
you’ve always responded to feedback.  So thanks for that.  That is why I am 
keeping this app because I’m sure your busy with other things in your life as 
well as dealing with a new app.  So I just wanted to say its appreciated that 
you are responding to the community.  

 

Now, just so you know I’ve got an iPhone 7 and not the most recent update but 
the one just before that one.  For some reason when I try either reading 
documents or turning on the live text I can’t seem to get anything.  When I try 
with other apps I get the help I need.  So maybe you can give me some tips? 
Maybe your app is a bit different in that I need to wait a bit longer? These 
are just questions I’m asking.

 

Again, thanks.

 

Lelia 

 

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Karthik Kannan
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:00 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Envision AI

 

Hi Leila, 

 

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait. 

 

Thanks, 

Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:

Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update. 

 

Thanks

 

lelia

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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Oops! That's not nice for us. I'll definitely take a look at this ASAP and 
get back to you. As a consumer, I get your choice but I hope in the future 
we can fix this issue and have you back. 

On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 9:01:23 PM UTC+1, Richard Turner wrote:
>
>
> I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in 
> portrait mode, nothing is read at all. 
> I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
> Richard
>
>
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> 🖖🏿
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan  > wrote:
>
> Hi Leila,  
>
> I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
> still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
> with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
> Portrait. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Karthik
> On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote: 
>>
>> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
>> ask what you think of it? 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
>> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>> lelia
>>
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Re: Envision AI

[Richard Turner]

I am not the person who started this thread, but using an iPhone 5s in portrait 
mode, nothing is read at all.
I deleted the app since Seeing AI works so amazingly well.
Richard


"The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.
There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
🖖🏿


On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Karthik Kannan 
mailto:karthikk@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Leila,

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's still 
not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues with using 
live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on Portrait.

Thanks,
Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask 
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Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t seem to 
do anything with it even with this latest update.

Thanks

lelia

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Re: Envision AI

[Karthik Kannan]

Hi Leila, 

I'm Karthik, the founder of Envision. Can you please let me know what's 
still not working for you? We are currently troubleshooting a few issues 
with using live text mode on landscape mode but it should work fine on 
Portrait. 

Thanks, 
Karthik
On Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 7:10:31 PM UTC+1, Lelia Struve wrote:
>
> Hi all, so I’m writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to 
> ask what you think of it? 
>
>  
>
> Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can’t 
> seem to do anything with it even with this latest update. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> lelia
>

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Envision AI

[Lelia]

Hi all, so I'm writing to ask if any one is using this app and if so to ask
what you think of it? 

 

Here is my deal, before any updates it worked fine for me, now I can't seem
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Thanks

 

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