RE: Problems with reading created labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You should contact the developer and ask them to fix their app, if Voiceover 
doesn't read labels or does so inconsistently it is entirely the fault of the 
app and there is not a lot you can do.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ketan 
Kothari
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 1:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problems with reading created labels

Hi Friends,

I  have created a few labels inan app that is almost totally inaccessible.  I 
have also saved them but  I am finding that there is quite a bit of 
inconsistency in reading the labels.  In most cases, voiceover does not read 
the label.  This is strange.  If I try four times, it reads once.  that too 
with a lag.  Could anybody help?  I have Iphone 13 pro with 16.5.1 (C).  I will 
be grateful for your help.

Thank you all in advance.

With best wishes from a rainy Mumbai,

Ketan

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Problems with reading created labels

[Ketan Kothari]

Hi Friends,

I  have created a few labels inan app that is almost totally
inaccessible.  I have also saved them but  I am finding that there is
quite a bit of inconsistency in reading the labels.  In most cases,
voiceover does not read the label.  This is strange.  If I try four
times, it reads once.  that too with a lag.  Could anybody help?  I
have Iphone 13 pro with 16.5.1 (C).  I will be grateful for your help.

Thank you all in advance.

With best wishes from a rainy Mumbai,

Ketan

-- 
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Phone: [r] 02228283281,
Cell: +919987550614
+917021054612
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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Lyne]

Hello,"
For Wal-Mart, is there a link to read that policy? I was wondering if it's for 
Canada too?

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 14:37, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> Mr. Ed,
> That is what I get for assuming .
> 
> I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
> 
> I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
> Canada.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
> providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
> them.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> Hello,
> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
> Canada; at list in Quebec.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
>> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
>> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell 
>> you they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart 
>> has a policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if 
>> they give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and 
>> they will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have 
>> informed this to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is 
>> nice is they will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you 
>> have to loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all 
>> the info below explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
>> To Who It May Concern,
>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. 
>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
>> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
>> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
>> other information about the medication.
>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on 
>> the prescription bottle.
>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>> 
>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>> 
>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
>> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
>> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>> 
>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
>> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so 
>> you can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use 
>> with one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use 
>> your smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
>> 
>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>> 
>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
>> (envisionamerica.com)
>> 
>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
>> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
>> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
>> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy 
>> in Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
>> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 202

RE: Reading prescription labels

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. NO there is no extra charge.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: November 27, 2022 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Does your pharmacy charge you extra for the labels? I spoke to someone at my 
local RiteAid a while ago about script talk and was told I would have to pay 
extra for the labeling. It wasn't a huge amount but I wasn't going to pay extra 
no matter how little it was.

Kim

On 11/27/22, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi. I’m in Nova Scotia. When I began using script talk my pharmacy 
> didn't offer the labels either. Envision amarica reached out to them 
> and within a week they were up and running.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Lyne
> Sent: November 26, 2022 3:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>
> Hello,
> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere 
> in Canada; at list in Quebec.
>
> Lyne
>
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where 
>> ever you live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the 
>> scrip talk if they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably 
>> are going to tell you they don't have it and can't get it. But this 
>> is not correct. Walmart has a policy that if anyone request  this 
>> service they have to get it. So if they give you a hassle just call 
>> Envision America and explain it to them and they will contact the 
>> Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this to many 
>> people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
>> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to 
>> loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the 
>> info below explaining  the process and numbers to call.
>>
>> To Who It May Concern,
>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy.
>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on
>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America.
>> This is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time 
>> reading their prescription bottles. It gives all the information on 
>> the bottle including other information about the medication.
>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on
>> the prescription bottle.
>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from
>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>>
>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>>
>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and 
>> provide them your information and they will ship you out the device 
>> to read your prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>>
>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to 
>> their pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription 
>> bottle so you can read them with the free Envision America device 
>> which is easy to use with one button to push to get it to read the 
>> prescription bottle or use your smart phone with the Envision America 
>> Scriptalk app.
>>
>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>>
>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision 
>> America
>> (envisionamerica.com)
>>
>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money 
>> promoting this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing 
>> this as I am a blind individual that now uses this service and 
>> believe many more people could benefit from this free service. I have 
>> been trying to get a pharmacy in Aberdeen to provide this service for 
>> over five years or so. Aberdeen’s Walmart just started this service 
>> on April 22, 2022. I just got my first prescription with the new 
>> service and it works great. So give it a try as what do you have to lose.
>> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using 
>> this great service to read their prescription bottles.
>>
>>
>> Ed Pinkman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Hello,
>> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available 
>> everywhere ...
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15

Re: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

The customer should say nothing. Call Envision America and report that pharmacy.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Nov 27, 2022, at 11:39 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
> wrote:
> 
> Does your pharmacy charge you extra for the labels? I spoke to someone
> at my local RiteAid a while ago about script talk and was told I would
> have to pay extra for the labeling. It wasn't a huge amount but I
> wasn't going to pay extra no matter how little it was.
> 
> Kim
> 
>> On 11/27/22, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hi. I’m in Nova Scotia. When I began using script talk my pharmacy didn't
>> offer the labels either. Envision amarica reached out to them and within a
>> week they were up and running.
>> 
>> Chris Judge
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
>> Sent: November 26, 2022 3:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in
>> Canada; at list in Quebec.
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>>>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you
>>> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if
>>> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell
>>> you they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart
>>> has a policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So
>>> if they give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to
>>> them and they will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I
>>> have informed this to many people and this has worked in the past. What
>>> also is nice is they will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So
>>> what do you have to loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone
>>> calls. See all the info below explaining  the process and numbers to call.
>>> 
>>> To Who It May Concern,
>>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy.
>>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on
>>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America.
>>> This is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading
>>> their prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle
>>> including other information about the medication.
>>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on
>>> the prescription bottle.
>>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from
>>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>>> 
>>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>>> 
>>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide
>>> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your
>>> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>>> 
>>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their
>>> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so
>>> you can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to
>>> use with one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or
>>> use your smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
>>> 
>>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>>> 
>>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America
>>> (envisionamerica.com)
>>> 
>>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting
>>> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a
>>> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people
>>> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy
>>> in Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s
>>> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first
>>> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as
>>> what do you have to lose.
>>> So please pass the word out 

Re: Reading prescription labels

[Kimberly Gardner]

Does your pharmacy charge you extra for the labels? I spoke to someone
at my local RiteAid a while ago about script talk and was told I would
have to pay extra for the labeling. It wasn't a huge amount but I
wasn't going to pay extra no matter how little it was.

Kim

On 11/27/22, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hi. I’m in Nova Scotia. When I began using script talk my pharmacy didn't
> offer the labels either. Envision amarica reached out to them and within a
> week they were up and running.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
> Sent: November 26, 2022 3:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>
> Hello,
> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in
> Canada; at list in Quebec.
>
> Lyne
>
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi All,
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you
>> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if
>> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell
>> you they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart
>> has a policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So
>> if they give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to
>> them and they will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I
>> have informed this to many people and this has worked in the past. What
>> also is nice is they will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So
>> what do you have to loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone
>> calls. See all the info below explaining  the process and numbers to call.
>>
>> To Who It May Concern,
>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy.
>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on
>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America.
>> This is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading
>> their prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle
>> including other information about the medication.
>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on
>> the prescription bottle.
>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from
>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>>
>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>>
>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide
>> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your
>> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>>
>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their
>> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so
>> you can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to
>> use with one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or
>> use your smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
>>
>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>>
>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America
>> (envisionamerica.com)
>>
>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting
>> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a
>> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people
>> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy
>> in Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s
>> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first
>> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as
>> what do you have to lose.
>> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this
>> great service to read their prescription bottles.
>>
>>
>> Ed Pinkman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Hello,
>> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere
>> ...
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess
>>> LiDAR could, if you have it?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googl

RE: Reading prescription labels

[chrisjudge1967]

Hi. I’m in Nova Scotia. When I began using script talk my pharmacy didn't offer 
the labels either. Envision amarica reached out to them and within a week they 
were up and running.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: November 26, 2022 3:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what 

Re: Reading prescription labels

[englishrider91]

There's also a company called Accessible Pharmacy which I recently heard about. 
They can provide prescription info using Envision, WayAround, large print, and 
Braille. I'm not sure how detailed either the large print and Braille would be 
in terms of prescription information, which is why I would want to use the 
option for WayAround. Also, I already use WayAround for tagging a bunch of 
stuff around my house, so it makes sense for me to use that over ScripTalk.

Anyhow, they'll also mail you your meds, and you can even get non-prescription 
meds, and even meds for pets! I'm not sure if they're available in Canada, but 
they are only available in about half the United States as of now.

Their website is:
www.accessiblepharmacy.com


Thanks,
Ari

> On Nov 26, 2022, at 2:21 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm not Ed,
> But in Ed's first line he stated:
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. 
> 
> I would presume that is Aberdeen, Canada...
> 
> I don't think he said it was easy, you have to convince your local Walmart to 
> check with Corporate if they are not aware of the service, then you probably 
> have to call Envision America to get them to contact the local store and get 
> the message through to them.
> That is not easy.
> 
> But, it is necessary and will benefit everyone with any reading impairment.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> Hello,
> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
> Canada; at list in Quebec.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
>> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
>> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell 
>> you they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart 
>> has a policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if 
>> they give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and 
>> they will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have 
>> informed this to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is 
>> nice is they will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you 
>> have to loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all 
>> the info below explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
>> To Who It May Concern,
>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. 
>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
>> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
>> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
>> other information about the medication.
>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on 
>> the prescription bottle.
>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>> 
>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>> 
>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
>> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
>> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>> 
>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
>> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so 
>> you can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use 
>> with one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use 
>> your smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
>> 
>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>> 
>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
>> (envisionamerica.com)
>> 
>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
>> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
>> blind individual that now uses this s

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

I definitely do/have thought of Aberdeen, when Aberdeen, NC is mentioned. My 
husband used to live in Aberdeen, NC. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

And I am surprised nobody actually said when they here Aberdeen they think of 
Aberdeen, Scotland where obviously all the other Aberdeens have copied there 
name from since the original Scotland settlement was granted its first royal 
charter in 1179 and a settlement probably existed there for 500 years before 
since around the middle of the 6th century.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Well, I've never been to any Aberdeen other than the one in Washington State, 
but that, like others in the US, I suspect are not huge cities.

I probably should have guessed Washington State, rather than Canada, but even 
locals around here don't know there is an Aberdeen, Washington, .



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Hi Richard,
I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walma

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

Actually, I'm not sure about my app, but they call me each time. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

CJ,
It is good to know there are more options out there.  

I had not heard of that one.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

It doesn't help with labelling the actual prescription bottles, but my pharmacy 
has an app where I can track and refill prescriptions. Prescriptions get into 
the app automatically when the doctor calls in the prescription. I live in 
Texas and the app is HEB RX. Maybe other pharmacies have something similar.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

My Humana Center Well Pharmacy has that. It is mail order. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

It doesn't help with labelling the actual prescription bottles, but my pharmacy 
has an app where I can track and refill prescriptions. Prescriptions get into 
the app automatically when the doctor calls in the prescription. I live in 
Texas and the app is HEB RX. Maybe other pharmacies have something similar.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I am surprised nobody actually said when they here Aberdeen they think of 
Aberdeen, Scotland where obviously all the other Aberdeens have copied there 
name from since the original Scotland settlement was granted its first royal 
charter in 1179 and a settlement probably existed there for 500 years before 
since around the middle of the 6th century.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Well, I've never been to any Aberdeen other than the one in Washington State, 
but that, like others in the US, I suspect are not huge cities.

I probably should have guessed Washington State, rather than Canada, but even 
locals around here don't know there is an Aberdeen, Washington, .



Richard, USA.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Hi Richard,
I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Just like places called Aberdeen there are also lots of Ed's, but I don’t think 
any are as old as our Mr. Ed! And before you try to tell people there are also 
lots of Sieghard's I'll save you the trouble, there are some, world wide 
probably even a lot, but definitely not as many as Ed's! 

It's even a relatively rare name in Germany and I can honestly say that I have 
never come across somebody who shares my name throughout school and growing up. 
I do know quite a few with the name Siegfried, it's definitely more common.

And hey, I live in a small town called Smithers in British Columbia and you 
guys down below the 49th parallel even had to copy that as there is aSmithers 
in West Virginia although apparently our Smithers with a population of a bit 
over 5,000 is positively a metropolitan centre compared to Smithers West 
Virginia which apparently boasts a population of around 750.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels



There is an Aberdeen, North Carolina too - no telling how many Aberdeens there 
are.



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 2:32 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels



Mr. Ed,

That is what I get for assuming .



I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.

I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.









Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe



My web site: https://www.turner42.com



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels



I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.

Mr. Ed



-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Lyne

Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels



Hello,

Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.



Lyne



> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed 
> mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> a écrit :

>

> Hi All,

> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call.

> To Who It May Concern,

> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?

> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.

> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.

> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.

>

> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.

>

> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get 

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, can't help you there as I have an iPhone 11 which doesn't have LiDAR and 
while it might be a nice feature, I am currently in no hurry to upgrade my 
phone. I'll see what the iPhone 15 line up will offer next year and maybe I'll 
upgrade then, but definitely not sooner and maybe not even then. I used to 
upgrade every second year for the most part, but lately do I not only see less 
and less of a desire to upgrade for relatively minor features or features which 
I may use 3 times a year, but I am also trying to at least become a more 
responsible global citizen by consuming less. It goes beyond the scope of this 
post and even the list, but I recently read a thought provoking article which 
stated that our society really has to shift to a different way of life before 
we can actually make headway with things like reducing carbon emissions, 
garbage, food waste and so many other things which seem to have become big 
issues. I am not saying I completely stopped buying stuff I might like, but I 
definitely think a bit more first and in some cases I do actually find that I 
decide I may not need something. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Sieghard, I am wondering why my LiDAR does not tell me the details that 
Jonathan's did on his podcast. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Caroline, LiDAR has absolutely nothing to do with reading anything at least not 
to my knowledge.
The term LiDAR stands for "Light Detection and Ranging" which means the LiDAR 
sensor consists of an transmitter which sends out a laser beam, this is 
reflected by an object or objects and received again by the receiver component 
of the sensor. Then the "TOF" which stands for time of flight is used to 
calculate the distance so while LiDAR might be used to enable features like 
door detection and so on, it has nothing to do with performing OCR on printed 
text.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[michv]

Navi lends is a app that you can use to read lables or names of shops or 
objects if the lables are applied properly. From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marda
Sent: November 26, 2022 12:34 PM
To: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

don't know anything about this navi lens.  What is it?

Marda

On 11/26/2022 11:23 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens 
> could be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they 
> could also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
> visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be 
> totally simple for pharmacies to apply.
>
>  NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!
>
> P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
> have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z.
>
> Sent from The dark side of the moon
>
>> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>>> LiDAR could, if you have it?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>>>
>>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program 
>>> which gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>>the medication?
>>>
>>>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>>think.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Sincerely,
>>>Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>>Accessibility Specialist
>>>IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>>
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7$>
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[michv]

Hi hear in Ontario the closest farmicey that offers the script talk app and 
info is in north bay at shoppers drug mart hear in Temiskaming shores we have 
findleys gardion drugs witch has no script talk info or anything like that and 
in north bay it is a hour and a haff away. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: November 26, 2022 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
&g

Re: Reading prescription labels

[William James]

CVS and Wallgreens both offer online perscription refills.  Just set up an 
account with the app and you should be able to see all sorts of information 
about your medicines.  I use CVS and thoroughly enjoy using Spoken RX from CVS. 
 My retired Leader Dog, Chip, takes medicine for seizures.  His medicine is 
even labeled with Spoken RX.  He goes by Chip Dog at CVS.  Hahaha!


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Nov 26, 2022, at 3:17 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> CJ,
> It is good to know there are more options out there.  
> 
> I had not heard of that one.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:13 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> It doesn't help with labelling the actual prescription bottles, but my 
> pharmacy has an app where I can track and refill prescriptions. Prescriptions 
> get into the app automatically when the doctor calls in the prescription. I 
> live in Texas and the app is HEB RX. Maybe other pharmacies have something 
> similar.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:35 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could 
> do it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible 
> label like through ScriptTalk.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C90bcd4aa84c24391173d08dacfc3e450%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638050737499387263%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=gvJ0mX%2FK0nWXh0to39%2BAatd1LMYWHvgJc5j5FHhx4hg%3Dreserved=0
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
> to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
> visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
> prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
> web site: 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C90bcd4aa84c24391173d08dacfc3e450%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638050737499387263%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=gvJ0mX%2FK0nWXh0to39%2BAatd1LMYWHvgJc5j5FHhx4hg%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> 
>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>
>
> 
>Hi,
>
>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>the medication?
>
>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>think.
>
>-- 
>
>Sincerely,
>Donald Raikes, CPACC
>Accessibility Specialist
>IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.accessibilityassociation.org%2Fcpacccertification__%3B!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWY

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

CJ,
It is good to know there are more options out there.  

I had not heard of that one.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

It doesn't help with labelling the actual prescription bottles, but my pharmacy 
has an app where I can track and refill prescriptions. Prescriptions get into 
the app automatically when the doctor calls in the prescription. I live in 
Texas and the app is HEB RX. Maybe other pharmacies have something similar.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C90bcd4aa84c24391173d08dacfc3e450%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638050737499387263%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=gvJ0mX%2FK0nWXh0to39%2BAatd1LMYWHvgJc5j5FHhx4hg%3Dreserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C90bcd4aa84c24391173d08dacfc3e450%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638050737499387263%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=gvJ0mX%2FK0nWXh0to39%2BAatd1LMYWHvgJc5j5FHhx4hg%3Dreserved=0



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fwww.accessibilityassociation.org%2Fcpacccertification__%3B!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7%24data=05%7C01%7C%7C90bcd4aa84c24391173d08dacfc3e450%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C638050737499387263%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=12o9OjsBvfbsImCytJgW%2BZiZ9IMuRovqpzSkrGcm3TI%3Dreserved=0>
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Christopher Chaltain]

It doesn't help with labelling the actual prescription bottles, but my pharmacy 
has an app where I can track and refill prescriptions. Prescriptions get into 
the app automatically when the doctor calls in the prescription. I live in 
Texas and the app is HEB RX. Maybe other pharmacies have something similar.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Lyne]

My contact for it in Canada is Richie Lefebvre based in Florida.
But there is a group in BC who seems to won. I'm gonna reach them next week.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 14:37, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> Mr. Ed,
> That is what I get for assuming .
> 
> I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
> 
> I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
> Canada.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
> providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
> them.
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> Hello,
> Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
> Canada; at list in Quebec.
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
>> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
>> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell 
>> you they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart 
>> has a policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if 
>> they give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and 
>> they will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have 
>> informed this to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is 
>> nice is they will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you 
>> have to loose. Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all 
>> the info below explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
>> To Who It May Concern,
>> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. 
>> What does this mean and what can it do for you?
>> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
>> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
>> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
>> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
>> other information about the medication.
>> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on 
>> the prescription bottle.
>> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
>> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
>> 
>> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
>> 
>> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
>> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
>> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
>> 
>> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
>> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so 
>> you can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use 
>> with one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use 
>> your smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
>> 
>> Here is the website to read more about it.
>> 
>> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
>> (envisionamerica.com)
>> 
>> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
>> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
>> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
>> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy 
>> in Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
>> Walmart just 

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

Well, I've never been to any Aberdeen other than the one in Washington State, 
but that, like others in the US, I suspect are not huge cities.

I probably should have guessed Washington State, rather than Canada, but even 
locals around here don't know there is an Aberdeen, Washington, .



Richard, USA.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Hi Richard,
I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so.

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Richard,
I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

There is an Aberdeen, North Carolina too - no telling how many Aberdeens there 
are. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

Mr. Ed,
That is what I get for assuming .

I didn't know there was an Aberdeen, South Dakota.
 
I'd call Envision America first then to find out if they have availability in 
Canada.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
&

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

Sieghard, I am wondering why my LiDAR does not tell me the details that 
Jonathan's did on his podcast. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

Caroline, LiDAR has absolutely nothing to do with reading anything at least not 
to my knowledge.
The term LiDAR stands for "Light Detection and Ranging" which means the LiDAR 
sensor consists of an transmitter which sends out a laser beam, this is 
reflected by an object or objects and received again by the receiver component 
of the sensor. Then the "TOF" which stands for time of flight is used to 
calculate the distance so while LiDAR might be used to enable features like 
door detection and so on, it has nothing to do with performing OCR on printed 
text.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Mr. Ed]

I live in Aberdeen, South Dakota. I don't know if Walmart Corp. policy about 
providing script talk is for Canada. You could call Envision America and ask 
them.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in 

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

I'm not Ed,
But in Ed's first line he stated:
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. 

I would presume that is Aberdeen, Canada...

I don't think he said it was easy, you have to convince your local Walmart to 
check with Corporate if they are not aware of the service, then you probably 
have to call Envision America to get them to contact the local store and get 
the message through to them.
That is not easy.

But, it is necessary and will benefit everyone with any reading impairment.



Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lyne
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googleg

Re: Reading prescription labels

[Lyne]

Hello,
Where are you from? It's doesn't seems to be as easy as you tell :ere in 
Canada; at list in Quebec.

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 13:05, Mr. Ed  a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you 
> live you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if 
> they do not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you 
> they don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a 
> policy that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they 
> give you a hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they 
> will contact the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this 
> to many people and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they 
> will FX the prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. 
> Give it a try. It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below 
> explaining  the process and numbers to call. 
> To Who It May Concern,
> I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
> does this mean and what can it do for you?
> 1.It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
> prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This 
> is for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
> prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
> other information about the medication.
> 2.You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
> prescription bottle.
> 3.Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
> the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.
> 
> All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.
> 
> The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide 
> them your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
> prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.
> 
> Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
> pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
> can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
> one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your 
> smart phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.
> 
> Here is the website to read more about it.
> 
> Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
> (envisionamerica.com)
> 
> I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting 
> this product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a 
> blind individual that now uses this service and believe many more people 
> could benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
> Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s 
> Walmart just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first 
> prescription with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as 
> what do you have to lose. 
> So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this 
> great service to read their prescription bottles.
> 
> 
> Ed Pinkman
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Featured snippet from the web when doing a Google search for "What is Navilens":
NaviLens reads out signs and provides train arrivals in audio to help blind or 
low-vision users navigate the station. The app works with Voice Over 
accessibility settings on your smartphone to guide you around the interface, 
but you do not need to turn on Voice Over for the app to start giving you audio 
guidance.

Then of course if you do that search there will be a link where you can read 
much more information about it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 9:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

What is navilens? 

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hi,

I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens could 
be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they could 
also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be totally 
simple for pharmacies to apply.

NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!

P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z. 

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>   prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>   the medication?
>> 
>>   I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>   was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>   think.
>> 
>>   -- 
>> 
>>   Sincerely,
>>   Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>   Accessibility Specialist
>>   IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>   
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7$>
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Mr. Ed]

Hi All,
I wrote this letter out to people in Aberdeen where I live. Where ever you live 
you have to talk to your Walmart store and request the scrip talk if they do 
not have it. Just to let you know they probably are going to tell you they 
don't have it and can't get it. But this is not correct. Walmart has a policy 
that if anyone request  this service they have to get it. So if they give you a 
hassle just call Envision America and explain it to them and they will contact 
the Walmart store and get it going for you. I have informed this to many people 
and this has worked in the past. What also is nice is they will FX the 
prescriptions out to you for free. So what do you have to loose. Give it a try. 
It only takes a couple of phone calls. See all the info below explaining  the 
process and numbers to call. 
To Who It May Concern,
I was able to get Aberdeen’s Walmart to get ScripTalk into the Pharmacy. What 
does this mean and what can it do for you?
1.  It is a free device that reads the prescription information on 
prescription bottles with a device provided free from Envision America. This is 
for visually impaired or for people who have a hard time reading their 
prescription bottles. It gives all the information on the bottle including 
other information about the medication.
2.  You can also use an app on a smart phone to read the information on the 
prescription bottle.
3.  Walmart will also mail the prescription out to you free by FedX from 
the Aberdeen store and you should get it next day.

All the device and shipping is free with no extra cost to anyone.

The first thing to do is call Envision America at 800-890-1180 and provide them 
your information and they will ship you out the device to read your 
prescription at no cost and get everything going for you.

Then call or go to Walmart and they will get all your meds sent to their 
pharmacy for you and add the Scriptalk tag to your prescription bottle so you 
can read them with the free Envision America device which is easy to use with 
one button to push to get it to read the prescription bottle or use your smart 
phone with the Envision America Scriptalk app.

Here is the website to read more about it.

Audible Prescription Labels | ScripTalk Talking Labels | En-Vision America 
(envisionamerica.com)

I do not work for Walmart or Envision America or make any money promoting this 
product that is free to the customer. I am just doing this as I am a blind 
individual that now uses this service and believe many more people could 
benefit from this free service. I have been trying to get a pharmacy in 
Aberdeen to provide this service for over five years or so. Aberdeen’s Walmart 
just started this service on April 22, 2022. I just got my first prescription 
with the new service and it works great. So give it a try as what do you have 
to lose. 
So please pass the word out to all people who could benefit in using this great 
service to read their prescription bottles.


Ed Pinkman







--

Hello,
There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
> 
> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
> to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
> visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
> prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
> web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>
>
> 
>Hi,
>
>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>the medication?
>
>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>think.
>
>-- 
>
>Sincerely,
>Donald Raikes, CPACC
>Accessibility Specialist
>IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-

RE: Reading prescription labels

[Star Gazer]

What is navilens? 

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hi,

I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens could 
be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they could 
also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be totally 
simple for pharmacies to apply.

NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!

P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z. 

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>   prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>   the medication?
>> 
>>   I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>   was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>   think.
>> 
>>   -- 
>> 
>>   Sincerely,
>>   Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>   Accessibility Specialist
>>   IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>   
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7$>
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Caroline, LiDAR has absolutely nothing to do with reading anything at least not 
to my knowledge.
The term LiDAR stands for "Light Detection and Ranging" which means the LiDAR 
sensor consists of an transmitter which sends out a laser beam, this is 
reflected by an object or objects and received again by the receiver component 
of the sensor. Then the "TOF" which stands for time of flight is used to 
calculate the distance so while LiDAR might be used to enable features like 
door detection and so on, it has nothing to do with performing OCR on printed 
text.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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Re: Reading prescription labels

['Paul D'Addario' via VIPhone]

CVS has a system called Spoken Rx.
The pharmacy encodes the label and the CVS app has a feature to read it.
hth 
-Paul


On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:35 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




Richard, USA.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Marda]

don't know anything about this navi lens.  What is it?

Marda

On 11/26/2022 11:23 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi,

 I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens could 
be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they could 
also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be totally 
simple for pharmacies to apply.

 NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!

P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z.

Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:

Hello,
There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...

Lyne


Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




Richard, USA.
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My web 
site: https://www.turner42.com



   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:



   Hi,

   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
   prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
   the medication?

   I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
   was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
   think.

   --

   Sincerely,
   Donald Raikes, CPACC
   Accessibility Specialist
   IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
   
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Re: Reading prescription labels

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

Hi,

I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens could 
be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they could 
also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be totally 
simple for pharmacies to apply.

NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!

P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z. 

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>   prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>   the medication?
>> 
>>   I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>   was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>   think.
>> 
>>   -- 
>> 
>>   Sincerely,
>>   Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>   Accessibility Specialist
>>   IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>   
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.accessibilityassociation.org/cpacccertification__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!ITXXARxD3iTCnbAoB96JZAdz253IVd2urWYbOsB5MNjTAjmFErX-iqpRl4NrjAo7$>
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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Julian]

If you're using the short text function in Seeing AI, sometimes these kinds of 
labels could pose a problem. I've had better luck using the document channel. 
You might wanna give that a shot.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 26, 2022, at 10:35 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could 
> do it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible 
> label like through ScriptTalk.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels
> 
> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
> to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
> visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
> prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
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>
> 
>Hi,
>
>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>the medication?
>
>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>think.
>
>-- 
>
>Sincerely,
>Donald Raikes, CPACC
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

LIDAR is not OCR.  Perhaps the built-in text recognition in the camera could do 
it these days, but the best is getting the pharmacy to use an accessible label 
like through ScriptTalk.




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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Reading prescription labels

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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site: https://www.turner42.com



On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
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Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

It is far safer to use a service like Aira where the people are licensed and 
bonded as well as trained for this kind of personal information if you don’t 
have access to something like ScriptTalk through your pharmacy.  Push the 
pharmacy to begin using accessible label systems.

 

I would never put anything like prescription information out there on Facebook.

 

 

 

 

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From: 'Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

 

Hello everyone,

I have a Facebook group where blind people send photos to let them be described 
by people who can see.

Sometimes I help by using my program as well.

If you want to I can share the link of it here and you can send photos of your 
texts into the group to let them be typed for you?

Take care.

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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Lyne]

Hello,
There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...

Lyne

> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
> 
> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
> 
> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
> to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
> visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
> prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
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> 
> 
> 
>On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>
>
> 
>Hi,
>
>Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>the medication?
>
>I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>think.
>
>-- 
>
>Sincerely,
>Donald Raikes, CPACC
>Accessibility Specialist
>IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>
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Re: Reading prescription labels

['Tanja Biermann' via VIPhone]

Hello everyone,
I have a Facebook group where blind people send photos to let them be
described by people who can see.
Sometimes I help by using my program as well.
If you want to I can share the link of it here and you can send photos of
your texts into the group to let them be typed for you?
Take care.
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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Carolyn]

You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess LiDAR 
could, if you have it? 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  
wrote:



Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

-- 

Sincerely,
Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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Re: Reading prescription labels

[Richard Turner]

The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the pharmacy 
to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which gives 
visually impaired people access to all of the medication info including the 
prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
You could try Voice Dream Scanner.




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> On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
> prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
> the medication?
> 
> I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
> was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
> think.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Donald Raikes, CPACC
> Accessibility Specialist
> IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
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Reading prescription labels

[Donald Raikes]

Hi,

Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
the medication?

I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
think.

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Donald Raikes, CPACC
Accessibility Specialist
IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core

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RE: How to read vitamin labels?

[Kenny Nead]

This is a labeler, that you put a label on your pills , and you have a pen, 
that you touch  on it, and it reads outloud whatever you have put on that 
label. .

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Ann M Medlar
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No and not familiar with pen friend labler.I just use slate and stylus and 
Dymo tape.


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Do you have a pen friend labler?

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Subject: RE: How to read vitamin labels?

I need to make Braille labels like MG for magnesium, V for multi vitamin, D for 
D, C for calcium, B for Biotin.  It would be great if an app could easily 
identify it.
I’ll try using Seeing AI again.
Thank you for suggestions here is link:
https://www.directionsForme.org/
I’ll experiment with apps and will open this site in morning.



From: Ann M Medlar
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: How to read vitamin labels?

Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to call 
pharmasist to give a special label in order to work.
I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:
digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My 
Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.
I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to 
read.  Any ideas?
Voice Over only announces green and white label.
Thank you,
Ann


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RE: How to read vitamin labels?

[Ann M Medlar]

No and not familiar with pen friend labler.I just use slate and stylus and 
Dymo tape.

 

 

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Do you have a pen friend labler?

 

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I need to make Braille labels like MG for magnesium, V for multi vitamin, D for 
D, C for calcium, B for Biotin.  It would be great if an app could easily 
identify it.  

I’ll try using Seeing AI again.

Thank you for suggestions here is link:

https://www.directionsForme.org/

I’ll experiment with apps and will open this site in morning.

 

 

 

From: Ann M Medlar 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: How to read vitamin labels?

 

Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to call 
pharmasist to give a special label in order to work.  

I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:

digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My 
Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.

I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to 
read.  Any ideas?

Voice Over only announces green and white label.

Thank you,

Ann

 

  

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RE: How to read vitamin labels?

[Kenny Nead]

Do you have a pen friend labler?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ann M Medlar
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I need to make Braille labels like MG for magnesium, V for multi vitamin, D for 
D, C for calcium, B for Biotin.  It would be great if an app could easily 
identify it.
I’ll try using Seeing AI again.
Thank you for suggestions here is link:
https://www.directionsForme.org/
I’ll experiment with apps and will open this site in morning.



From: Ann M Medlar
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: How to read vitamin labels?

Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to call 
pharmasist to give a special label in order to work.
I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:
digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My 
Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.
I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to 
read.  Any ideas?
Voice Over only announces green and white label.
Thank you,
Ann


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RE: How to read vitamin labels?

[Ann M Medlar]

I need to make Braille labels like MG for magnesium, V for multi vitamin, D
for D, C for calcium, B for Biotin.  It would be great if an app could
easily identify it.  

I'll try using Seeing AI again.

Thank you for suggestions here is link:

https://www.directionsForme.org/

I'll experiment with apps and will open this site in morning.

 

 

 

From: Ann M Medlar 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 3:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How to read vitamin labels?

 

Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to
call pharmasist to give a special label in order to work.  

I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:

digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My
Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.

I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to
read.  Any ideas?

Voice Over only announces green and white label.

Thank you,

Ann

 

  

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Re: How to read vitamin labels?

[chaim biberfeld]

I have found that except for the fact that you cannot save the text in a file, 
seeing AI is the best of all the apps. When viewing complicated labels and such 
I always use the documents reader rather than the short text which I find to be 
enervating. I recently bought the Orcam Eye bought so far I have found it 
frustrating to use and regret for $4200 I paid for it. I would love to sell it 
if anyone is interested. I am sure other people have more patience for it Than 
I 

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> On Jul 13, 2022, at 3:27 PM, Ann M Medlar  wrote:
> 
> 
> Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to 
> call pharmasist to give a special label in order to work. 
> I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:
> digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My 
> Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.
> I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to 
> read.  Any ideas?
> Voice Over only announces green and white label.
> Thank you,
> Ann
>  
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How to read vitamin labels?

[Ann M Medlar]

Recently got Script Talk to read prescription meds.  However, I needed to
call pharmasist to give a special label in order to work.  

I have iPhone 12 Pro with latest I O S  with following apps:

digit-eyes, TapTapSee, Seeing A I, Voice Dream Reader, OneStep Reader, Be My
Eyes, EasyReader, and SoloLearn.

I have several bottles of vitamins and don't know how to get the labels to
read.  Any ideas?

Voice Over only announces green and white label.

Thank you,

Ann

 

  

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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Diane Giannetti]

Thanks Chris. That worked also.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Apr 19, 2022, at 1:23 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Malcolm,
> 
> Except for the snow falling outside, everything is going good here. Hope all 
> is well with you.
> 
> You are correct, you can not just double tap on an animal or object in a 
> photo and label it. That is why I supplied instructions for adding an image 
> description for a photo.
> Please note, an image description is not the same as a caption. A caption is 
> not read out by voice over when landing on a photo in going through your 
> photo roll, but an image description is.
> 
> I just added an image description for a photo I have of one of my dogs. So I 
> put the dogs name in the image description along with what they were doing in 
> the photo.
> Even though it is buried, I do like the option of adding an image description 
> when needed.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> Good to see you again, hope you’re well!
>> 
>> In addition to adding a caption to a photo if the photo contains people as 
>> you swipe around the screen where you can add your caption you will hear 
>> “Unnamed Person” or something like that.  If you double tap you can enter a 
>> name for that person.  I have done this to my photo so if I have a photo 
>> containing me it will read out my name even if I am part of a group photo.  
>> I don’t think this can be done to animals and objects, only people.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 19 Apr 2022, at 17:49, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you are wanting to add a label to your photos you will hear when you go 
>>> through them, then you can do this by adding a image description.  This is 
>>> a little buried in how it is done, but here are the instructions.
>>> 
>>> I just did this to one of my photos, so it does work.
>>> 
>>> 1, Double tap on the photo.
>>> 2, double tap the edit button.
>>> 3, In the list, double tap Mark Up.
>>> 4, Now go to the end of the list and double tap add.
>>> 5, Double tap description.
>>> 6, An edit field will appear so type or dictate your description of the 
>>> photo.
>>> 7, Swipe to done and double tap.
>>> 8, There is another done button, so double tap that one.
>>> 9, I think there is one more done button to double tap.
>>> 
>>> Now as you swipe through your photos, when you land on that photo, you will 
>>> hear the description you entered for it.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Diane Giannetti  
> wrote:
 
 Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
 
 Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
 
>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
> 
> Hello Diane,
> 
> As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
> animals.
> 
> I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
> 
> When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
> 
> If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should 
> hear something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can 
> assign a name to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be 
> identified in that way.
> 
> If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first 
>> picture where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able 
>> to put it so when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. 
>> So how can I actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a 
>> capture?
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Malcolm,

Except for the snow falling outside, everything is going good here. Hope all is 
well with you.

You are correct, you can not just double tap on an animal or object in a photo 
and label it. That is why I supplied instructions for adding an image 
description for a photo.
Please note, an image description is not the same as a caption. A caption is 
not read out by voice over when landing on a photo in going through your photo 
roll, but an image description is.

I just added an image description for a photo I have of one of my dogs. So I 
put the dogs name in the image description along with what they were doing in 
the photo.
Even though it is buried, I do like the option of adding an image description 
when needed.

Chris


> On Apr 19, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> Good to see you again, hope you’re well!
> 
> In addition to adding a caption to a photo if the photo contains people as 
> you swipe around the screen where you can add your caption you will hear 
> “Unnamed Person” or something like that.  If you double tap you can enter a 
> name for that person.  I have done this to my photo so if I have a photo 
> containing me it will read out my name even if I am part of a group photo.  I 
> don’t think this can be done to animals and objects, only people.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 19 Apr 2022, at 17:49, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> If you are wanting to add a label to your photos you will hear when you go 
>> through them, then you can do this by adding a image description.  This is a 
>> little buried in how it is done, but here are the instructions.
>> 
>> I just did this to one of my photos, so it does work.
>> 
>> 1, Double tap on the photo.
>> 2, double tap the edit button.
>> 3, In the list, double tap Mark Up.
>> 4, Now go to the end of the list and double tap add.
>> 5, Double tap description.
>> 6, An edit field will appear so type or dictate your description of the 
>> photo.
>> 7, Swipe to done and double tap.
>> 8, There is another done button, so double tap that one.
>> 9, I think there is one more done button to double tap.
>> 
>> Now as you swipe through your photos, when you land on that photo, you will 
>> hear the description you entered for it.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
 On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Diane Giannetti  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>> 
> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
> wrote:
 
 Hello Diane,
 
 As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
 animals.
 
 I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
 
 When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
 
 If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
 something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a 
 name to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in 
 that way.
 
 If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
 
 Malcolm Parfitt
 
>> On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first 
> picture where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able 
> to put it so when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So 
> how can I actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a 
> capture?
> 
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hi Chris,

Good to see you again, hope you’re well!

In addition to adding a caption to a photo if the photo contains people as you 
swipe around the screen where you can add your caption you will hear “Unnamed 
Person” or something like that.  If you double tap you can enter a name for 
that person.  I have done this to my photo so if I have a photo containing me 
it will read out my name even if I am part of a group photo.  I don’t think 
this can be done to animals and objects, only people.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Apr 2022, at 17:49, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> 
> If you are wanting to add a label to your photos you will hear when you go 
> through them, then you can do this by adding a image description.  This is a 
> little buried in how it is done, but here are the instructions.
> 
> I just did this to one of my photos, so it does work.
> 
> 1, Double tap on the photo.
> 2, double tap the edit button.
> 3, In the list, double tap Mark Up.
> 4, Now go to the end of the list and double tap add.
> 5, Double tap description.
> 6, An edit field will appear so type or dictate your description of the photo.
> 7, Swipe to done and double tap.
> 8, There is another done button, so double tap that one.
> 9, I think there is one more done button to double tap.
> 
> Now as you swipe through your photos, when you land on that photo, you will 
> hear the description you entered for it.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
 On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Diane,
>>> 
>>> As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
>>> animals.
>>> 
>>> I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
>>> 
>>> When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
>>> 
>>> If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
>>> something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a 
>>> name to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in 
>>> that way.
>>> 
>>> If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
> On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
 
 I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first 
 picture where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to 
 put it so when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how 
 can I actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?
 
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Chris Chaffin]

If you are wanting to add a label to your photos you will hear when you go 
through them, then you can do this by adding a image description.  This is a 
little buried in how it is done, but here are the instructions.

I just did this to one of my photos, so it does work.

1, Double tap on the photo.
2, double tap the edit button.
3, In the list, double tap Mark Up.
4, Now go to the end of the list and double tap add.
5, Double tap description.
6, An edit field will appear so type or dictate your description of the photo.
7, Swipe to done and double tap.
8, There is another done button, so double tap that one.
9, I think there is one more done button to double tap.

Now as you swipe through your photos, when you land on that photo, you will 
hear the description you entered for it.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Diane,
>> 
>> As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
>> animals.
>> 
>> I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
>> 
>> When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
>> 
>> If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
>> something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a 
>> name to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in 
>> that way.
>> 
>> If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
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>>> 
>>> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first 
>>> picture where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to 
>>> put it so when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how 
>>> can I actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?
>>> 
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Diane,

If you like, you can send me a photo of your cat privately and I’ll take a look 
to see if labelling him/her photo is possible.

malc...@parfitt1.org.uk

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Apr 2022, at 17:18, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.
> 
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> 
>> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Diane,
>> 
>> As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
>> animals.
>> 
>> I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
>> 
>> When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
>> 
>> If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
>> something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a 
>> name to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in 
>> that way.
>> 
>> If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
 On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first 
>>> picture where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to 
>>> put it so when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how 
>>> can I actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?
>>> 
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Diane Giannetti]

Malcolm, thanks for your help. I do appreciate it.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Apr 19, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello Diane,
> 
> As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not 
> animals.
> 
> I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.
> 
> When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.
> 
> If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
> something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a name 
> to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in that way.
> 
> If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
>> 
>> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first picture 
>> where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to put it so 
>> when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how can I 
>> actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
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Re: Regarding putting labels on photos

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Diane,

As far as I understand it, you can only assign a name to people and not animals.

I only have photos of people here so I can’t verify that this is the case.

When you open a photo and press the Info button try exploring the screen.

If there are people in the photo then as you swipe through you should hear 
something like “Unnamed Person”. If you double tap here you can assign a name 
to the person.  I’m not sure whether your cat will be identified in that way.

If I can obtain a photo with an animal in it I will check for certain.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:21, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> 
> I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first picture 
> where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to put it so 
> when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how can I 
> actually put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?
> 
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Regarding putting labels on photos

[Diane Giannetti]

I know I asked this question before and I was able to put the first picture 
where it said capture my cats name, but I would like to be able to put it so 
when I see the photo there it will actually say the name. So how can I actually 
put her name on the photo without putting it as a capture?

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RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

And cold,
Bloody cold,


but hey that’s what you get when you’re in the artic circle.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 
territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Only 4 times,

I thought for some reason it was even larger.

Which province do  all the islands come under?
Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<ma

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And about 20 years ago I was engaged to a lovely Russian girl from the city of 
Ekaterinburg in western Siberia. We met online and I went there and one of the 
"attractions" of the area (an hour or so drive west of the city) is the border 
between Europe and Asia. Her Dad took us there and you can stand across the 
official line with one foot in Europe and the other in Asia. It was a pretty 
long flight, first almost 10 hours from Vancouver to Frankfurt and then after a 
couple of hours layover another 5 hours flight from Frankfurt to Ekaterinburg.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 4, 2021 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Ukraine is in Europe and was in the western part of the Soviet Union, but 
Russia is also in Europe. In fact, it's the largest and most populous country 
in Europe, and this is just counting the European part of Russia. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane,

I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones.

Crazy big place.
And they have even less population than canda  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's 
still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the 
Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5f0e206b8f3f43fc582108d96f4804a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663177393912114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=lCILPu6F6cs2qxpyEttlXJg0%2FRFoCeOWyGGPDSx2TDg%3Dreserved=0
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast w

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 
territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Only 4 times,

I thought for some reason it was even larger.

Which province do  all the islands come under?
Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday,

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Christopher Chaltain]

Ukraine is in Europe and was in the western part of the Soviet Union, but 
Russia is also in Europe. In fact, it's the largest and most populous country 
in Europe, and this is just counting the European part of Russia. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane,

I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones.

Crazy big place.
And they have even less population than canda  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's 
still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the 
Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C5f0e206b8f3f43fc582108d96f4804a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663177393912114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=lCILPu6F6cs2qxpyEttlXJg0%2FRFoCeOWyGGPDSx2TDg%3Dreserved=0
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[CJ & AA MAY]

Some interesting facts here, although I won’t perpetuate this thread as I guess 
it is off topic.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: 04 September 2021 02:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,

Has only 5 million population.

 

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

 

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,

And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.

Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,

Australia has approx. 21 million population,

Shanghi china has over that in their city.

I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,

There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.

 

 

 

But even so,

 

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

 

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,

What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

 

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

 

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million

The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers

That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.

Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.

All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Only 4 times,

I thought for some reason it was even larger.

Which province do  all the islands come under?
Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
hap

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above 
Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times 
the size of the UK.
But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting 
geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital 
assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil 
etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of 
course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in 
your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measur

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane,

I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones.

Crazy big place.
And they have even less population than canda  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's 
still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the 
Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753773346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=2TihvQrjV2SX0ncp6%2FjYIAI%2Bv9%2B0QmdPk0KOkHnkF54%3Dreserved=0
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=cJdu3te9aE4EjQwDBqzvFstffaMtWVUr3MV6d1uAHyc%3Dreserved=0>
  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?ur

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's 
still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the 
Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753773346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=2TihvQrjV2SX0ncp6%2FjYIAI%2Bv9%2B0QmdPk0KOkHnkF54%3Dreserved=0
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=cJdu3te9aE4EjQwDBqzvFstffaMtWVUr3MV6d1uAHyc%3Dreserved=0>
  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=T1GQBAoEIQThbX42k8JqQZSjQbb83OuI%2FfK0fZTHYhA%3Dreserved=0>
 , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow d

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK 
possibly slightly larger,
Has only 5 million population.

My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at 
university here.

But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area,
And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population.
Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city,
Australia has approx. 21 million population,
Shanghi china has over that in their city.
I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people,
There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth.



But even so,

Why does toast always land buttered side down?

And if aats always land on their feet when they drop,
What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, 
buttered side up of course on the back,

Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: vipho

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Canada’s huge  not only the main land area but the hunders of islands they have

Chinna has the largest population and then India
I think Australia is the largest individual island.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 7:44 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia would be the largest.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Hi Mich,

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.
So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.
Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in 
Canada<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=fcQOoOoU%2BKT8aGiynEYO6nwuWnFtOZL7lkAvdj5mIHs%3D=0>
 stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.
Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds 
worldwide<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=S%2FVjhJ4qGc5PDcK48DUEELAD5eZv0Qq73NBTi01rwkI%3D=0>,
 mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

Here is the link to that website:
Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & 
facts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781104736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=aLn%2FK%2FrkaWh4gBkoM53k1NbwJ8CddhXrdk384gGqd4Y%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist 
countrys etc breaking away?

But also interestingly 
China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

According to 
https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3Dreserved=0>
  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3Dreserved=0>
 , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

 

Here is the link to that website:

Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3Dreserved=0>
 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels

Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Alison May]

Thanks, but really surprised. 


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

> On 4 Sep 2021, at 12:10 am, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> According to 
> https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/
> 1. Russia
> 2. Canada
> 3. China
> 4. United States
> 5. Brazil
> 6. Australia
> 7. India
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
> 
> Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> CJ & AA MAY
> Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
> 
> I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
> the largest?
> 
> 
> 
> Alison
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Mich,
> 
> 
> 
> in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered 
> per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.
> 
> So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
> not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
> especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to 
> keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world 
> is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where 
> there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above 
> statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number 
> would be higher as well.
> 
> Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
> usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
> incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:
> 
> 
> 
> The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
> telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
> become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
> in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
> have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
> rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
> way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
> internet users in Canada 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3Dreserved=0>
>   stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is 
> projected to surpass 33 million.
> 
> Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the 
> fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3Dreserved=0>
>  , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.
> 
> 
> 
> Here is the link to that website:
> 
> Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts 
> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3Dreserved=0>
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@goog

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Christopher Chaltain]

According to 
https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/
1. Russia
2. Canada
3. China
4. United States
5. Brazil
6. Australia
7. India

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3Dreserved=0>
  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3Dreserved=0>
 , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

 

Here is the link to that website:

Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3Dreserved=0>
 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:vi

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Carolyn]

Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CJ & AA MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in Canada 
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/>
  stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds worldwide 
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/>
 , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

 

Here is the link to that website:

Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts 
<https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Christopher Chaltain]

Russia would be the largest.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Hi Mich,

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.
So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.
Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in 
Canada<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=fcQOoOoU%2BKT8aGiynEYO6nwuWnFtOZL7lkAvdj5mIHs%3D=0>
 stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.
Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds 
worldwide<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=S%2FVjhJ4qGc5PDcK48DUEELAD5eZv0Qq73NBTi01rwkI%3D=0>,
 mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

Here is the link to that website:
Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & 
facts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781104736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=aLn%2FK%2FrkaWh4gBkoM53k1NbwJ8CddhXrdk384gGqd4Y%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
e

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[CJ & AA MAY]

I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia 
the largest?

 

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi Mich,

 

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.

So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.

Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

 

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the  
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/>
 number of mobile internet users in Canada stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, 
Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million.

Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the  
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/>
 countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide, mobile 
ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

 

Here is the link to that website:

Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics  
<https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/> & facts

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell 
phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back 
then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a 
mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all 
want the technology. Think of this as a comparison:

In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had 
a population of over 66 Million
The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the 
United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers
That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population 
which is 43% less.
Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, 
Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the 
UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next 
larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it 
goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, 
respectively.
All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, 
well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million 
people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick 
that into a quarter of its size.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Mich,

in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 
100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119.
So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there 
not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone 
especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep 
in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so 
huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is 
not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for 
people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as 
well.
Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile 
usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing 
incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks:

The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and 
telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have 
become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories 
in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets 
have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is 
rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their 
way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile 
internet users in 
Canada<https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/>
 stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected 
to surpass 33 million.
Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest 
average mobile internet speeds 
worldwide<https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/>,
 mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon.

Here is the link to that website:
Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & 
facts<https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here.
I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give 

Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

hey, everyone, my city, Waterbury, in Connecticut, did not get too much damage. 
I'm glad I didn't have to evacuate.  I guess they're still our flood warnings 
to watch out for. Take care, everyone, and I will keep you updated. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Esther,
>  
> You guys in the USA get some rough stuff,
>  
> The big easy just got hit
> And now cannetakit
>  
> Keep your heads down and stay safe.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I 
> have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my 
> landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers 
> on both hands! Ha ha! Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
> main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
> I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
> (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
> also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" 
> and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in 
> giving people the option to use their home or work phone.
> I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
> having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
> even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also 
> have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even 
> during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because 
> all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my 
> family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power 
> line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire 
> time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared 
> chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but 
> that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
> and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe 
> weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so 
> there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
> Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
> Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
> think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
> that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
> you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
> I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
> attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone 
> app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that 
> you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also 
> by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
> particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that 
> person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all 
> and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Cur

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Mich Verrier]

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Star Gazer]

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[CJ & AA MAY]

Indeed, Simon. I think the demise of landlines is inevitable but it can’t 
happen until more fibre is laid, or whatever is to replace it.

I remember a time when I only used a landline and was charged by the minute. 
Now I can make a call up to an hour in length without charge, at least, I’m not 
charged by the minute but presume the cost is covered by my montyhly standing 
order. 

I rarely use the landline and truly wouldn’t miss it as most incoming calls are 
only sales calls.

Alison

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: 02 September 2021 08:32
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Hi alison,

 

That would probably be a similar issue here in nz.

 

I know they’ve changed a lot of copper for fibre 

 

But who really knows.

 

I do know our phone system stays active in a natural disaster 

Where as fibre requires  a bit more intervention from technology.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 7:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label f

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi alison,

That would probably be a similar issue here in nz.

I know they’ve changed a lot of copper for fibre

But who really knows.

I do know our phone system stays active in a natural disaster
Where as fibre requires  a bit more intervention from technology.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 7:26 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.
Alison


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and dur

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[CJ & AA MAY]

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!





On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:vi

Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

yes, the weather is rather crazy  here. It's raining quite hard. I guess it's 
supposed to get worse in the middle of the night or early morning. Thank you 
for your kind words however. I will let you know how things turn out. Take 
care. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey Esther,
>  
> You guys in the USA get some rough stuff,
>  
> The big easy just got hit
> And now cannetakit
>  
> Keep your heads down and stay safe.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
> Levegnale
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I 
> have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my 
> landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers 
> on both hands! Ha ha! Esther
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
> main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
> I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
> (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
> also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" 
> and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in 
> giving people the option to use their home or work phone.
> I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
> having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
> even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also 
> have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even 
> during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because 
> all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my 
> family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power 
> line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire 
> time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared 
> chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but 
> that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
> and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe 
> weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so 
> there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
> Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
> Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
> think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
> that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
> you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
> I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
> attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone 
> app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that 
> you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also 
> by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
> particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that 
> person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all 
> and delete, that only the visible resul

Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, everyone, I remember when my parents bought our first  car phone Wayback in 
the day. It must've been the 70s or 80s. It was called a bag phone. It was 
huge! We thought it was so wonderful that we could make calls to people from 
our car! Look how far technology came! Isn't it great? Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> O I think you misunderstood my sarcasm.
>  
> I think labeling phone numbers with something meaningful is extremely useful. 
>  I tis just Apple is still in the dark ages when it comes to these labels.
>  
> They are back in the days when a Car Phone took up most of the middle console 
> between the front seats and cell phones wade a couple of pounds.  In fact, 
> their labels have been out of date since the very first iPhone.
>  
> Perhaps if everyone wrote Apple Accessibility and pointed out the silliness 
> of some of their stock labels, they would update them.
>  
> I’ve written them several times … obviously, they are not listening to me, .
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Richard,
>  
> I guess that’s something you feel personally,
>  
> I know for me that the labels are useful,
> As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile
>  
> I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones 
> as well as personal mobiles.
>  
> And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers
> Until of course they upgrade their phone system.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had 
> an iPhone.
> when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, 
> or a pager?  And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others.  There 
> is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others.
> Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever.
> Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a 
> contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home 
> if it was work.  
> The same thing with Email labels in contacts.  Pick one you can live with 
> and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff.  Grin.
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases 
> you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are 
> those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to 
> get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I 
> even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it 
> nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I 
> have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had 
> iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the 
> message was not sent as an iMessage.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
> Cramer
> Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact
> 
> Hello,
> When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that 
> there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being 
> a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I 
> also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a 
> mobile phone.
> Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just 
> wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there.
> Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone 
> with an iDevice?
> Tom
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RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Richard Turner]

O I think you misunderstood my sarcasm.

I think labeling phone numbers with something meaningful is extremely useful.  
I tis just Apple is still in the dark ages when it comes to these labels.

They are back in the days when a Car Phone took up most of the middle console 
between the front seats and cell phones wade a couple of pounds.  In fact, 
their labels have been out of date since the very first iPhone.

Perhaps if everyone wrote Apple Accessibility and pointed out the silliness of 
some of their stock labels, they would update them.

I’ve written them several times … obviously, they are not listening to me, .



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

Richard,

I guess that’s something you feel personally,

I know for me that the labels are useful,
As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile

I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones 
as well as personal mobiles.

And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers
Until of course they upgrade their phone system.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had 
an iPhone.
when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or 
a pager?  And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others.  There is a 
Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others.
Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever.
Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a 
contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home 
if it was work.
The same thing with Email labels in contacts.  Pick one you can live with and, 
as they say, don't sweat the small stuff.  Grin.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases 
you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those 
situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an 
Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an 
"Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, 
whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never 
experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled 
and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not 
sent as an iMessage.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact

Hello,
When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that 
there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a 
home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also 
remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile 
phone.
Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just 
wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there.
Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone 
with an iDevice?
Tom

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RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

I guess that’s something you feel personally,

I know for me that the labels are useful,
As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile

I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones 
as well as personal mobiles.

And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers
Until of course they upgrade their phone system.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had 
an iPhone.
when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or 
a pager?  And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others.  There is a 
Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others.
Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever.
Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a 
contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home 
if it was work.
The same thing with Email labels in contacts.  Pick one you can live with and, 
as they say, don't sweat the small stuff.  Grin.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases 
you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those 
situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an 
Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an 
"Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, 
whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never 
experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled 
and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not 
sent as an iMessage.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact

Hello,
When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that 
there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a 
home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also 
remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile 
phone.
Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just 
wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there.
Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone 
with an iDevice?
Tom

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RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

I thought you guys  in Canada used morse code still or heliographs
Because it gets so cold up in the north that the phones freeze
Or is it polar bear mail

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 5:09 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work 
phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I retired.  We 
have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell 
service is down or the battery is down, etc.



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. 
For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you 
could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by 
"Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. 
Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that 
only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete 
individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes 
no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear 
them, it still clears the entire call list.
I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I 
am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very 
difficult for Apple to implemenbt this.

As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the 
following scenario:

1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home 
phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person
2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile"
3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home 
phone, fax number or mobile"

It is of course completely ridiculous why S

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

I no longer have it

But until 2 years ago
I got a business plan from my cellular provider

The plan gave me free calling within new Zealand and Australia
With unlimited text and enough data to do me a month,

But the big key point for my family was that it came with an additional 
landline number,

So no landline phone at home,
Just a number that geographically diverted to my mobile so that no matter where 
I was,
I got all home phone calls or mobile calls and it told me which number was 
being rung

That way I had both for the same price
Which from memory ws about 65 kiwi dollars.I don’tthink you can get a landline 
phone here now for that.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 6:15 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line an

RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hey Esther,

You guys in the USA get some rough stuff,

The big easy just got hit
And now cannetakit

Keep your heads down and stay safe.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I have 
my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my landline 
will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers on both 
hands! Ha ha! Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work 
phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I retired.  We 
have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell 
service is down or the battery is down, etc.



Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. 
For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you 
could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by 
"Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. 
Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that 
only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete 
individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes 
no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear 
them, it still clears the entire call list.
I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I 
am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very 
difficult for Apple to implemenbt this.

As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the 
following scenario:

1. Assu

Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
> talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away 
> from the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I 
> love using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much 
> faster than I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my 
> phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing 
> other things.  Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for 
> anything!
>  
> Sherry Wells
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much 
> of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There 
> are effects that I find unpleasant.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
> didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have 
> one. I never thought this would happen.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
> Schmidt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
> quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing 
> cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed 
> it any more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
>  
> 
> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
> 
> On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
> main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
> I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
> (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
> also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" 
> and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in 
> giving people the option to use their home or work phone.
> I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
> having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
> even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also 
> have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even 
> during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because 
> all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my 
> family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power 
> line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire 
> time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared 
> chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but 
> that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
> and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe 
> weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so 
> there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who 

Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I have 
my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my landline 
will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers on both 
hands! Ha ha! Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
> main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
> I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
> (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
> also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" 
> and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in 
> giving people the option to use their home or work phone.
> I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
> having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
> even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also 
> have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even 
> during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because 
> all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my 
> family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power 
> line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire 
> time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared 
> chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but 
> that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
> and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe 
> weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so 
> there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
> Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
> Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
> think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
> that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
> you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
> I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
> attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone 
> app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that 
> you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also 
> by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
> particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that 
> person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all 
> and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can 
> either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls 
> list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then 
> select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list.
> I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently 
> I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be 
> very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this.
>  
> As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is 
> the following scenario:
>  
> 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, 
> home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person
> 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not speci

Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Esther Levegnale]

hi Richard, and everyone, I also have a landline, and won't give it up. I like 
the idea of having a land line, because something could also happen to a smart 
phone as well. That did happen to me a couple of years ago. recently, I could 
not send the email, and had to contact my email provider. It was fixed in a 
jiffy. I was certainly grateful for that. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are 
> cell phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and 
> their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I 
> retired.  We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and 
> find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
> Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.
> Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
> think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
> that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
> you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc.
> I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
> attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone 
> app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that 
> you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also 
> by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
> particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that 
> person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all 
> and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can 
> either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls 
> list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then 
> select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list.
> I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently 
> I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be 
> very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this.
>  
> As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is 
> the following scenario:
>  
> 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, 
> home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person
> 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile"
> 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, 
> home phone, fax number or mobile"
>  
> It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you 
> typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone 
> and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number.
> And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. 
> johnsm...@gmail.com, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I 
> can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send 
> an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to 
> use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what 
> it should be after 11 years of being around.
> At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add 
> a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple 
> Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year 
> you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last 
> name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
>  
> The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had 
> an iPhone.
> when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, 
> or a pager?  And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others.  There 
> is a Custom 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

$20 a month over 3 years is $720 which goes a good way towards a new iPhone and 
since nowadays it is no problem to keep an iPhone for 4 years one could say 
that what many spend on a landline would pay for their new iPhone. Anyways, 
probably enough discussion about landlines which are only related to iPhones in 
a very small way.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 1, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Land lines are cheap now, about $20 a month with unlimited long distance.  Of 
course not everyone can afford even this cheap price.  And as Sieghard says, it 
can be confusing if people have both numbers.  Sometimes they text the land 
line.   Again, as Sieghard says, to each his own preference.

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I 
could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think 
that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I 
don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I 
can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call 
if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you 
can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need.
I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you 
have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 
with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or 
credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard 
and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to 
quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the 
phone dialpad.
AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a 
landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have 
one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home 
so they then try my cell number etc. .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labe

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[sherrywells1157]

Land lines are cheap now, about $20 a month with unlimited long distance.  Of 
course not everyone can afford even this cheap price.  And as Sieghard says, it 
can be confusing if people have both numbers.  Sometimes they text the land 
line.   Again, as Sieghard says, to each his own preference.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I 
could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think 
that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I 
don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I 
can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call 
if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you 
can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need.

I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you 
have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 
with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or 
credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard 
and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to 
quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the 
phone dialpad.

AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a 
landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have 
one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home 
so they then try my cell number etc. .

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.c

Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Arnold Schmidt]

And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I 
could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think 
that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. 

Arnold Schmidt 


Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I 
don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I 
can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call 
if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you 
can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need.
I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you 
have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 
with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or 
credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard 
and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to 
quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the 
phone dialpad.
AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a 
landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have 
one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home 
so they then try my cell number etc. .
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
 
I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
 
I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!
 
Sherry Wells
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
 
I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
 
Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact
 
One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 
 
Arnold Schmidt 
 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these da

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Sieghard Weitzel]

To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I 
don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I 
can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call 
if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you 
can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need.
I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you 
have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 
with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or 
credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard 
and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to 
quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the 
phone dialpad.
AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a 
landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have 
one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home 
so they then try my cell number etc. .

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mich 
Verrier
Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

Sherry Wells

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold 
Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2

On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.
I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.
I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, 

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Mich Verrier]

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are 

Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Maria Campbell]

I also have a landline, because all billing and banking services use the 
number as identification.  And yes, pushing buttons on the landline is a 
heck of a lot easier than on the iPhone.  Talking is also more stable on 
the landline.





Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
--Edmund Burke

On 9/1/2021 2:00 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote:


*I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often 
pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I 
move slightly away from the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call 
on a land line.  Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I 
can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe.  This enables me 
to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter 
while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  Having said all 
this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!*


**

*Sherry Wells*

**

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *llump...@austin.rr.com

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a 
contact


I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not 
much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most 
cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Star Gazer

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a 
contact


Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped 
working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now 
just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was 
how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my 
billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out 
why I needed it any more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not 
missed it.


Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:




Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.


I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and 
Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these 
labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you 
say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used 
and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their 
home or work phone.


I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall 
ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. 
  For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste 
of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like 
that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually 
stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and 
all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch 
and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for 
the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower 
was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you 
run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is 
what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up 
and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a 
severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down 
as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and 
landlines do not.


*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On 
Behalf Of *Richard Turner

*Sent:* September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones 
are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a 
landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also.  That was 
true for me before I retired.  We have kept our landline because I 
don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the 
battery is down, etc.

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[sherrywells1157]

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work 
phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I retired.  We 
have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell 
service is down or the battery is down, etc.

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject:

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[llumpkin]

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work 
phone is often a cell phone also.  That was true for me before I retired.  We 
have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell 
service is down or the battery is down, etc.

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, 
Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc.

Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't 
think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody 
that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if 
you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. 

I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much 
attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. 
For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you 
could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by 
"Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a 
particular name or phone nu