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And cold, Bloody cold, but hey that’s what you get when you’re in the artic circle. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, 6 September 2021 3:55 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Only 4 times, I thought for some reason it was even larger. Which province do all the islands come under? Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times the size of the UK. But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups
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And about 20 years ago I was engaged to a lovely Russian girl from the city of Ekaterinburg in western Siberia. We met online and I went there and one of the "attractions" of the area (an hour or so drive west of the city) is the border between Europe and Asia. Her Dad took us there and you can stand across the official line with one foot in Europe and the other in Asia. It was a pretty long flight, first almost 10 hours from Vancouver to Frankfurt and then after a couple of hours layover another 5 hours flight from Frankfurt to Ekaterinburg. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: September 4, 2021 10:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Ukraine is in Europe and was in the western part of the Soviet Union, but Russia is also in Europe. In fact, it's the largest and most populous country in Europe, and this is just counting the European part of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane, I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones. Crazy big place. And they have even less population than canda -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist countrys etc breaking away? But also interestingly China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact According to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5f0e206b8f3f43fc582108d96f4804a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663177393912114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lCILPu6F6cs2qxpyEttlXJg0%2FRFoCeOWyGGPDSx2TDg%3D&reserved=0 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices
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No province, everything up North is the Arctic which is divided into the 3 territories, Yukon, Northwest and Nunavut. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 4, 2021 12:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Only 4 times, I thought for some reason it was even larger. Which province do all the islands come under? Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times the size of the UK. But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent:
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Ukraine is in Europe and was in the western part of the Soviet Union, but Russia is also in Europe. In fact, it's the largest and most populous country in Europe, and this is just counting the European part of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Russia -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane, I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones. Crazy big place. And they have even less population than canda -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist countrys etc breaking away? But also interestingly China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact According to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C5f0e206b8f3f43fc582108d96f4804a9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663177393912114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lCILPu6F6cs2qxpyEttlXJg0%2FRFoCeOWyGGPDSx2TDg%3D&reserved=0 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mo
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Some interesting facts here, although I won’t perpetuate this thread as I guess it is off topic. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: 04 September 2021 02:17 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I p
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Only 4 times, I thought for some reason it was even larger. Which province do all the islands come under? Because there are a heck of a lot of them north of the main Canadian landmass. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 6:30 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times the size of the UK. But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before thi
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And British Columbia, the province on the west coast of Canada just above Washington State has also a population of just over 5 Million and it is 4 times the size of the UK. But I think we should stop perpetuating this thread with interesting geographical facts, anybody who wants them can easily ask their digital assistant, e.g. What is the size of Chine or What is the population of Brazil etc. Pretty much all of them, Alexa, Google and SIRI will answer those. Of course you can also type this type of question into the Google search box in your browser and you'll find the answer at heading level 2. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: September 3, 2021 6:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fi
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Yeah but the western side if I remember correctly is the eukrane, I know in the communist days it crossed through 13 of the 24 time zones. Crazy big place. And they have even less population than canda -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 1:50 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist countrys etc breaking away? But also interestingly China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact According to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753773346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2TihvQrjV2SX0ncp6%2FjYIAI%2Bv9%2B0QmdPk0KOkHnkF54%3D&reserved=0 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cJdu3te9aE4EjQwDBqzvFstffaMtWVUr3MV6d1uAHyc%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide <ht
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Yes, Russia is still the largest country according to land mass. Remember it's still part of Europe and then thanks to Siberia extends all the way to the Pacific, so it's spans the entire continent of Asia. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 7:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist countrys etc breaking away? But also interestingly China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact According to https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.worldometers.info%2Fgeography%2Flargest-countries-in-the-world%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753773346%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2TihvQrjV2SX0ncp6%2FjYIAI%2Bv9%2B0QmdPk0KOkHnkF54%3D&reserved=0 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=cJdu3te9aE4EjQwDBqzvFstffaMtWVUr3MV6d1uAHyc%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2fb848944414499fab9008d96f3e8f07%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663136753783302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=T1GQBAoEIQThbX42k8JqQZSjQbb83OuI%2FfK0fZTHYhA%3D&reserved=0
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Even worse is the population of new Zealand which is the size of the UK possibly slightly larger, Has only 5 million population. My city has approx. 130 thousand people give or take when students are at university here. But the main island of hong kong is small enough to fit in to our harbour area, And hong kong has more people on that island than NZ’s population. Sydney Australia has approx. 6 million people in their city, Australia has approx. 21 million population, Shanghi china has over that in their city. I believe between china and india there is 3 billion people, There are only 7.2 billion give or take on earth. But even so, Why does toast always land buttered side down? And if aats always land on their feet when they drop, What would happen if you glued a peace of buttered toast to a cats back, buttered side up of course on the back, Would the cat just keep rotating in mid air? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 5:41 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!
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Canada’s huge not only the main land area but the hunders of islands they have Chinna has the largest population and then India I think Australia is the largest individual island. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 7:44 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia would be the largest. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fcQOoOoU%2BKT8aGiynEYO6nwuWnFtOZL7lkAvdj5mIHs%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=S%2FVjhJ4qGc5PDcK48DUEELAD5eZv0Qq73NBTi01rwkI%3D&reserved=0>, mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781104736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aLn%2FK%2FrkaWh4gBkoM53k1NbwJ8CddhXrdk384gGqd4Y%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot
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Is Russia still number 1 after the changes over there with other communist countrys etc breaking away? But also interestingly China only has one time zone yet it crosses about 4 of them. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2021 11:10 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact According to https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/ 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3D&reserved=0> , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subje
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Thanks, but really surprised. Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 0777 315 8181 > On 4 Sep 2021, at 12:10 am, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > According to > https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/ > 1. Russia > 2. Canada > 3. China > 4. United States > 5. Brazil > 6. Australia > 7. India > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > CJ & AA MAY > Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia > the largest? > > > > Alison > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > > > Hi Mich, > > > > in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered > per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. > > So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there > not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone > especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to > keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world > is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where > there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above > statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number > would be higher as well. > > Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile > usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing > incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: > > > > The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and > telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have > become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories > in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets > have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is > rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their > way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile > internet users in Canada > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3D&reserved=0> > stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is > projected to surpass 33 million. > > Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the > fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3D&reserved=0> > , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. > > > > Here is the link to that website: > > Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viph
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According to https://www.worldometers.info/geography/largest-countries-in-the-world/ 1. Russia 2. Canada 3. China 4. United States 5. Brazil 6. Australia 7. India -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 4:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tDfJAriCDVoGo6D2YZgDS%2Bh69RY%2BCneVVX20CLH0eTM%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659669401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HtQTl5kgaDayb6evNLuNFf9sUZ8BxCvT9ExR2tZmQmg%3D&reserved=0> , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C593bb333dedd4ecc72e708d96f20bc23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637663008659679352%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=diVOtuFkOWkTVU0H3XsDH5YpWgasXPT%2Bgin7HAovMB4%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.co
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Russia and China have to be up there somewhere, India too. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 3:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada <https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide <https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/> , mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts <https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels wh
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Russia would be the largest. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 2:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F482507%2Fcanada-mobile-phone-internet-users%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=fcQOoOoU%2BKT8aGiynEYO6nwuWnFtOZL7lkAvdj5mIHs%3D&reserved=0> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Fstatistics%2F896768%2Fcountries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781094784%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=S%2FVjhJ4qGc5PDcK48DUEELAD5eZv0Qq73NBTi01rwkI%3D&reserved=0>, mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.statista.com%2Ftopics%2F3529%2Fmobile-usage-in-canada%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6eea4a0292e84b1c67f808d96f0fc3fd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637662935781104736%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aLn%2FK%2FrkaWh4gBkoM53k1NbwJ8CddhXrdk384gGqd4Y%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used th
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I never knew Canada was the second largest country in the world. Is Australia the largest? Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: 03 September 2021 18:26 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the <https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/> number of mobile internet users in Canada stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the <https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/> countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide, mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics <https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/> & facts From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awes
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There is a huge difference between 1996 and now. I think I bought my first cell phone around 1994, a big Motorola flip phone and it was quite expensive back then. Also remember that it is a lot easier and more cost efficient to set up a mobile network in a small country like England with a lot of people who all want the technology. Think of this as a comparison: In 2019 Canada's population was just over 37.5 Million, the United Kingdom had a population of over 66 Million The geographical size of Canada is 9,985,000 square Kilometers, that of the United Kingdom is 242,495 square Kilometers That means Canada is more than 41 times the size of the UK with a population which is 43% less. Its difficult to compare the UK to a province because our 3 small provinces, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are a lot smaller than the UK with 5,660 square Km, 55,000 square Km and 72,000 square Km and the next larger province, Newfoundland and Labrador is 405,212 square Km and then it goes to Manitoba and Saskatchewan with 647,000 square Km and 660,000 square Km, respectively. All other provinces are significantly larger, Ontario is 1,076,000 square Km, well over 4 times the size of the UK with a population of less than 15 Million people. Imagine you take more than 4 times the population of Ontario and stick that into a quarter of its size. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 5:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sen
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Hi Mich, in 2019 in Canada there were just under 92 mobile subscriptions registered per 100 people and in the uK that number was just over 119. So while more subscriptions were registered in the UK, the fact is that there not all that many people any more in Canada who don't have a mobile phone especially in the regions where most of the population lives. You have to keep in mind of course that Canada as the second largest country in the world is so huge and that there are still a number of people living in areas where there is not even cellular coverage and I bet if you looked at the above statistic for people living in larger population centres that this number would be higher as well. Below is the introduction from a website with a ton of statistics on mobile usage in Canada and it shows that mobile devices and usage is growing incredibly fast which is partly du eto Canada's excellent and fast networks: The mobile revolution has visibly reshaped the digital ecosystem and telecommunications landscape in Canada. In recent years, mobile devices have become essential tools for connecting people across provinces and territories in the world’s second-largest country. As web-enabled smartphones and tablets have also become a portable gateway to the rest of the world, mobile usage is rapidly increasing throughout Canada, with more mobile devices finding their way into consumers’ hands than ever before: As of 2020, the number of mobile internet users in Canada<https://www.statista.com/statistics/482507/canada-mobile-phone-internet-users/> stood at 29.83 million, and by 2025, Canada’s mobile population is projected to surpass 33 million. Considering that Canada retains a top spot among the countries with the fastest average mobile internet speeds worldwide<https://www.statista.com/statistics/896768/countries-fastest-average-mobile-internet-speeds/>, mobile ownership and usage are not expected to slow down anytime soon. Here is the link to that website: Mobile internet usage in Canada - statistics & facts<https://www.statista.com/topics/3529/mobile-usage-in-canada/> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 2, 2021 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all
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hey, everyone, my city, Waterbury, in Connecticut, did not get too much damage. I'm glad I didn't have to evacuate. I guess they're still our flood warnings to watch out for. Take care, everyone, and I will keep you updated. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > > Hey Esther, > > You guys in the USA get some rough stuff, > > The big easy just got hit > And now cannetakit > > Keep your heads down and stay safe. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther > Levegnale > Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I > have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my > landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers > on both hands! Ha ha! Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their > main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. > I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile > (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should > also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" > and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in > giving people the option to use their home or work phone. > I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever > having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me > even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also > have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even > during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because > all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my > family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power > line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire > time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared > chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but > that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up > and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe > weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so > there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, > Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. > Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't > think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody > that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if > you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. > I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much > attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone > app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that > you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also > by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a > particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that > person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all > and delete, that only t
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I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say &
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I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, everybody still made voice calls. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who liv
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Indeed, Simon. I think the demise of landlines is inevitable but it can’t happen until more fibre is laid, or whatever is to replace it. I remember a time when I only used a landline and was charged by the minute. Now I can make a call up to an hour in length without charge, at least, I’m not charged by the minute but presume the cost is covered by my montyhly standing order. I rarely use the landline and truly wouldn’t miss it as most incoming calls are only sales calls. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: 02 September 2021 08:32 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Hi alison, That would probably be a similar issue here in nz. I know they’ve changed a lot of copper for fibre But who really knows. I do know our phone system stays active in a natural disaster Where as fibre requires a bit more intervention from technology. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 7:26 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there sh
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Hi alison, That would probably be a similar issue here in nz. I know they’ve changed a lot of copper for fibre But who really knows. I do know our phone system stays active in a natural disaster Where as fibre requires a bit more intervention from technology. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 7:26 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 day
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Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection. Alison From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> wrote: I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From
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yes, the weather is rather crazy here. It's raining quite hard. I guess it's supposed to get worse in the middle of the night or early morning. Thank you for your kind words however. I will let you know how things turn out. Take care. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > > > Hey Esther, > > You guys in the USA get some rough stuff, > > The big easy just got hit > And now cannetakit > > Keep your heads down and stay safe. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther > Levegnale > Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I > have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my > landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers > on both hands! Ha ha! Esther > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their > main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. > I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile > (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should > also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" > and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in > giving people the option to use their home or work phone. > I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever > having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me > even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also > have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even > during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because > all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my > family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power > line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire > time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared > chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but > that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up > and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe > weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so > there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, > Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. > Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't > think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody > that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if > you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. > I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much > attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone > app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that > you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also > by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a > particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that > person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all > and delet
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hi, everyone, I remember when my parents bought our first car phone Wayback in the day. It must've been the 70s or 80s. It was called a bag phone. It was huge! We thought it was so wonderful that we could make calls to people from our car! Look how far technology came! Isn't it great? Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > O I think you misunderstood my sarcasm. > > I think labeling phone numbers with something meaningful is extremely useful. > I tis just Apple is still in the dark ages when it comes to these labels. > > They are back in the days when a Car Phone took up most of the middle console > between the front seats and cell phones wade a couple of pounds. In fact, > their labels have been out of date since the very first iPhone. > > Perhaps if everyone wrote Apple Accessibility and pointed out the silliness > of some of their stock labels, they would update them. > > I’ve written them several times … obviously, they are not listening to me, 😊. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon > A Fogarty > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Richard, > > I guess that’s something you feel personally, > > I know for me that the labels are useful, > As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile > > I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones > as well as personal mobiles. > > And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers > Until of course they upgrade their phone system. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had > an iPhone. > when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, > or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There > is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. > Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. > Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a > contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home > if it was work. > The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with > and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases > you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are > those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to > get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I > even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it > nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I > have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had > iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the > message was not sent as an iMessage. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom > Cramer > Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM > To: viphone > Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Hello, > When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that > there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being > a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I > also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a > mobile phone. > Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just > wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. > Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone > with an iDevice? > Tom > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the run
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O I think you misunderstood my sarcasm. I think labeling phone numbers with something meaningful is extremely useful. I tis just Apple is still in the dark ages when it comes to these labels. They are back in the days when a Car Phone took up most of the middle console between the front seats and cell phones wade a couple of pounds. In fact, their labels have been out of date since the very first iPhone. Perhaps if everyone wrote Apple Accessibility and pointed out the silliness of some of their stock labels, they would update them. I’ve written them several times … obviously, they are not listening to me, 😊. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Richard, I guess that’s something you feel personally, I know for me that the labels are useful, As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones as well as personal mobiles. And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers Until of course they upgrade their phone system. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfc86bb75f2e349c9540c08d96da4149e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661373782878911%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=TEcP1e7V2WwHIApoyMSSgVQcMpoADgRW3I1%2Bdbl%2Bing%3D&reserved=0> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@
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Richard, I guess that’s something you feel personally, I know for me that the labels are useful, As it lets me specify who has an iPhone and who has an android or mobile I also list friends mobiles under home in some cases as they have work phones as well as personal mobiles. And a couple of people I deal with in our local hospital have pagers Until of course they upgrade their phone system. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 2:57 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1de2739b5064deb55f708d96d56c8b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661041766644215%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RDBfcHVCDeia7iM5ISKQzOpAxg6DvMcR0lH%2FZ3%2F0CdY%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAPr-VTpogRowm2BByTiDb7vVJoWKP0sAYXYvxQ8KkkKXiqeEjA%2540mail.gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1de2739b5064deb55f708d96d56c8b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661041766644215%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Re4YQJ4p6EXyETiUOQ5LEvR4Xdh7hkjYjjfNPlv0iag%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the runn
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I thought you guys in Canada used morse code still or heliographs Because it gets so cold up in the north that the phones freeze Or is it polar bear mail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 5:09 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely r
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I no longer have it But until 2 years ago I got a business plan from my cellular provider The plan gave me free calling within new Zealand and Australia With unlimited text and enough data to do me a month, But the big key point for my family was that it came with an additional landline number, So no landline phone at home, Just a number that geographically diverted to my mobile so that no matter where I was, I got all home phone calls or mobile calls and it told me which number was being rung That way I had both for the same price Which from memory ws about 65 kiwi dollars.I don’tthink you can get a landline phone here now for that. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 6:15 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed mi
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Hey Esther, You guys in the USA get some rough stuff, The big easy just got hit And now cannetakit Keep your heads down and stay safe. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Thursday, 2 September 2021 9:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers on both hands! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scen
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I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while > talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away > from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I > love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much > faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my > phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing > other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for > anything! > > Sherry Wells > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > llump...@austin.rr.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much > of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There > are effects that I find unpleasant. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star > Gazer > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, > didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have > one. I never thought this would happen. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold > Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how > quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing > cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed > it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their > main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. > I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile > (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should > also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" > and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in > giving people the option to use their home or work phone. > I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever > having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me > even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also > have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even > during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because > all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my > family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power > line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire > time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared > chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but > that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up > and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe > weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so > there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is th
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we are expecting a severe storm here in Connecticut later this evening. I have my phone charging and I also have a power bank charging. I know my landline will go out if we lose electricity. Anyway, I am crossing my fingers on both hands! Ha ha! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > > Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their > main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. > I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile > (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should > also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" > and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in > giving people the option to use their home or work phone. > I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever > having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me > even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also > have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even > during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because > all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my > family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power > line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire > time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared > chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but > that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up > and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe > weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so > there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, > Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. > Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't > think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody > that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if > you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. > I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much > attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone > app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that > you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also > by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a > particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that > person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all > and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can > either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls > list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then > select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. > I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently > I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be > very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. > > As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is > the following scenario: > > 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, > home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person > 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith"
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hi Richard, and everyone, I also have a landline, and won't give it up. I like the idea of having a land line, because something could also happen to a smart phone as well. That did happen to me a couple of years ago. recently, I could not send the email, and had to contact my email provider. It was fixed in a jiffy. I was certainly grateful for that. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 1, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are > cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and > their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I > retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and > find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. > > > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact > > It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, > Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. > Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't > think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody > that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if > you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. > I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much > attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone > app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that > you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also > by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a > particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that > person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all > and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can > either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls > list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then > select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. > I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently > I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be > very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. > > As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is > the following scenario: > > 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, > home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person > 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" > 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, > home phone, fax number or mobile" > > It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you > typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone > and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. > And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. > johnsm...@gmail.com, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I > can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send > an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to > use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what > it should be after 11 years of being around. > At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add > a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple > Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year > you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last > name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact > > The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had > an iPhone. > when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, > or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not oth
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$20 a month over 3 years is $720 which goes a good way towards a new iPhone and since nowadays it is no problem to keep an iPhone for 4 years one could say that what many spend on a landline would pay for their new iPhone. Anyways, probably enough discussion about landlines which are only related to iPhones in a very small way. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com Sent: September 1, 2021 12:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Land lines are cheap now, about $20 a month with unlimited long distance. Of course not everyone can afford even this cheap price. And as Sieghard says, it can be confusing if people have both numbers. Sometimes they text the land line. Again, as Sieghard says, to each his own preference. Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need. I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the phone dialpad. AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home so they then try my cell number etc. . From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject:
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Land lines are cheap now, about $20 a month with unlimited long distance. Of course not everyone can afford even this cheap price. And as Sieghard says, it can be confusing if people have both numbers. Sometimes they text the land line. Again, as Sieghard says, to each his own preference. Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:30 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need. I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the phone dialpad. AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home so they then try my cell number etc. . From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegrou
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And to use consumer advocate Clark Howard think, that was $384 a year that I could use somewhere else. Multiply that by about 8 and a half now. And to think that I have free long distance in the United States. Wow. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:13 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need. I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the phone dialpad. AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home so they then try my cell number etc. . From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to
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To each their own, if I know I want to have a long chat with somebody and I don't want to use speakerphone I simply use the wired Apple Earpods, this way I can get up and walk around if I want, it makes it easy to pick up another call if there is one and it's comfortable. Sure, if you have a cordless phone you can also walk around, but it's still another gadget I don't need. I personally find entering numbers on my phone not that difficult, but if you have a Bluetooth keyboard especially if it's something like a Logitech K780 with a numeric pad then you can use that to enter your bank card number or credit card number etc. I just made sure this still works and called Mastercard and it was no problem to press 1 on the numeric pad for English and then to quickly punch in my 16-digit card number and it's just as easy as using the phone dialpad. AS I said, everybody has to decide what they want, but the extra cost for a landline is just not worth it to me and in addition everybody knows that I have one personal phone number so nobody calls my landline, then maybe I'm not home so they then try my cell number etc. . From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mich Verrier Sent: September 1, 2021 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even pa
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I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. From Mich. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer
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I also have a landline, because all billing and banking services use the number as identification. And yes, pushing buttons on the landline is a heck of a lot easier than on the iPhone. Talking is also more stable on the landline. Maria Campbell lucky1i...@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 9/1/2021 2:00 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com wrote: *I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!* ** *Sherry Wells* ** *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of *llump...@austin.rr.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Star Gazer *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of *Richard Turner *Sent:* September 1, 2021 8:52 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is
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I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line. I often pace while talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from the speaker. Also, never had a dropped call on a land line. Lastly I love using NFB Newsline on the land line. I can punch the buttons much faster than I can swipe. This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things. Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything! Sherry Wells From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of llump...@austin.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegrou
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I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are effects that I find unpleasant. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a pa
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Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. I never thought this would happen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am th
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One of the things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any more. That was almost nine years ago, I have not missed it. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 2 On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can
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Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their main/home number this is still a mobile number for me. I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile (work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving people the option to use their home or work phone. I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever having been in a situation where I desperately needed one. For me even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations where cell phones work and landlines do not. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com<mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com>, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage
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Agreed, Richard. And now, you’ve got a personal cell, a work cell, etc. Recently, they did away with our actual office phones and are making us do this new telephone thing via our computers using Teams. And, it will forward to our work cell phones as well. I actually still have a land line, only because it wasn’t going to cost extra to keep it or save me any money to get rid of it. Go figure. I get both my land line and internet through my phone company. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com <mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com> , SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what it should be after 11 years of being around. At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the l
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Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell phones. Fewer and fewer of our friends are keeping a landline, and their work phone is often a cell phone also. That was true for me before I retired. We have kept our landline because I don’t want to be in a bind and find the cell service is down or the battery is down, etc. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:21 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com<mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com>, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what it should be after 11 years of being around. At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: It does not matter, I have
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It also depends on which method you use for your Contacts, e.g. iCloud, Outlook.com, Exchange, Gmail etc. Yes, there are some labels which appear outdated as Richard said, but I don't think I ever encountered the issue that when I shared a Contact with somebody that the label was changed and in my opinion they are important especially if you have multiple numbers for a contact, e.g. Work, Mobile, Home etc. I do also agree with what Richard said about Apple not having paid much attention to this and neither has Apple been paying attention to the phone app. For as long as I have an iPhone which now is 12 years or so I wish that you could filter your recent calls not only by "All" and "Missed", but also by "Incoming", "Outgoing" and by a custom search filter, e.g. you type in a particular name or phone number and see only the calls from that person/number. Furthermore I wish that if one would then choose to select all and delete, that only the visible results would be deleted. Currently you can either delete individual calls or you can completely clear your recent calls list, it makes no difference if you choose to show only missed calls and then select to clear them, it still clears the entire call list. I have put this in as a suggestion a few times over the years, but apparently I am the only one who would find this useful and it would probably not be very difficult for Apple to implemenbt this. As for the labels there is one other issue which bugs me a lot and that is the following scenario: 1. Assume you have a contact called John Smith and you have a work phone, home phone, a fax number and a mobile number for that person 2. I now say to SIRI "Message John Smith" and I am not specifying "mobile" 3. SIRI will ask "Which of these should I use for John Smith, work phone, home phone, fax number or mobile" It is of course completely ridiculous why SIRI should ask this because you typically can't send a text message to a landline, e.g. work or home phone and you definitely can't send a text message to a fax number. And if you also have an email address added to the contact, e.g. johnsm...@gmail.com<mailto:johnsm...@gmail.com>, SIRI often also includes this in the list. Of course I can still understand it since if somebody has iMessage enabled you can send an iMessage to their email address, then at best it should ask if you want to use "Mobile or email". It's just another way where SIRI falls short of what it should be after 11 years of being around. At least it seems Apple has finally made SIRI smart enough where you can add a Contact with just a company name in the Company name field, e.g. Apple Accessibility, and then say "Call Apple Accessibility". Until maybe last year you always had to also add the company name either in the first name or last name field if you wanted to ask SIRI to call it or else it would not find it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 1, 2021 7:57 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Identifying labels when making a contact The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter conta
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The Contact labels are a joke, and have been a joke for as long as I have had an iPhone. when was the last time you knew someone with a Radio phone, or a car phone, or a pager? And, the iPhone label is there sometimes and not others. There is a Custom label button to create your own some of the time and not others. Apple truly has not paid attention to the labels forever. Half the time, when I use their standard labels of home or work, and share a contact with my wife, the label is changed to Work, if it was home or to home if it was work. The same thing with Email labels in contacts. Pick one you can live with and, as they say, don't sweat the small stuff. Grin. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com On Sep 1, 2021, at 7:42 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1de2739b5064deb55f708d96d56c8b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661041766644215%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RDBfcHVCDeia7iM5ISKQzOpAxg6DvMcR0lH%2FZ3%2F0CdY%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FCAPr-VTpogRowm2BByTiDb7vVJoWKP0sAYXYvxQ8KkkKXiqeEjA%2540mail.gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1de2739b5064deb55f708d96d56c8b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661041766644215%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Re4YQJ4p6EXyETiUOQ5LEvR4Xdh7hkjYjjfNPlv0iag%3D&reserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf1de2739b5064deb55f708d96d56c8b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637661041766644215%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RDBfcHVCDeia7iM5ISKQzOpAxg6DvMcR0lH%2FZ3%2F0CdY%3D&reserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+
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It does not matter, I have never used the iPhone label because in many cases you don't even know if the person has an iPhone or not and then there are those situations where somebody may have an iPhone and then they decide to get an Android phone when they next upgrade. I still have that label and I even see an "Apple Watch" label, not sure why I now have this, but I find it nonsense, whether iPhone or Android phone, they are all mobile phones and I have never experienced a situation that if the recipient of a message had iMessage enabled and was in range of a WiFi or cellular data network that the message was not sent as an iMessage. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: September 1, 2021 2:43 AM To: viphone Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTpogRowm2BByTiDb7vVJoWKP0sAYXYvxQ8KkkKXiqeEjA%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SJ0PR06MB7862F90C3A9D5419C30A6C54C7CD9%40SJ0PR06MB7862.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
RE: Identifying labels when making a contact
Hi Tom, Yeah should be the contact details open and then up the top there is an edit button, Hit that and then go down to the mobile number and there should be two mobile One is a button, Tap on it and then you should get the list you are looking for. Good luck. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tom Cramer Sent: Wednesday, 1 September 2021 9:43 pm To: viphone Subject: Identifying labels when making a contact Hello, When I first used an iPhone and learned to enter contacts, I remember that there was a section where you could identify someone's phone number as being a home phone, work phone, or miblie phone, and a bunch of other options. I also remember that there was a specific choice for an iPhone, not just a mobile phone. Now, all I see is a mobile phone option but not an iPhone option. I was just wondering if that option still existed and how I can get there. Also, would any of that matter when it comes to sending iMessages to someone with an iDevice? Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAPr-VTpogRowm2BByTiDb7vVJoWKP0sAYXYvxQ8KkkKXiqeEjA%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SY4PR01MB70265A8D5123647FAC6565FB8ACD9%40SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.