RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi, Amazon has them. I just placed an order for the ¼ inch. They claim they are so strong that only one of those will hold a calendar on your fridge. Not sure if I believe that they can hold up to 8 pounds but I'll see when I get them. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Keith, I am not sure where you are, but I would just google it. Amazon probably has them, I definitely know that Lee Valley Tools has them which is where I buy mine. Lee Valley Tools is a Canadian company which sells woodworker supplies, tools, all sorts of specialty hardware and so on. Their website is www.LeeValleyTools.com. When you first go to the website you have only 4 links to choose from: En - for English, Canada Fr - for French, Canada US - for the United States Int - if you are an international customers outside of North America. It's one of those stores where as a woodworker I should not go too often, I've spend many thousands of Dollars there over the years. Here are a few link for some of the rare earth magnets they have: Rare Earth Circular Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32065cat=1,42363,42348 Here a bit of a blurb about their qualities, the largest 1 inch diameter magnetwill ift a 30 pound block of steel: Until you have actually used rare-earth magnets, you cannot appreciate their strength. Rare-earth magnets achieve maximum attractive force when sandwiched between two pieces of steel. The 1/4 diameter by 1/10 thick magnet will lift a 2.5 lb block of steel; the 1/2 diameter one will lift a 9 lb block - see the chart at right. It all has to do with the electron array in the neodymium, the rare earth they are made from. There are hundreds of uses for these magnets - from holding keys or wrenches on machines to making fridge magnets. Nickel plated with slightly rounded edges, they can be glued in place with almost any glue (epoxy is the most secure). The 3/4 and 1 dia. magnets are so powerful that only people with very strong hands can separate them without using an aid of some kind. This presents a handling problem for us, so we sell them only in bundles of five, with instructions for simple separation methods. The 3/4 inch magnet will lift a 22 pound block of steel and the 1 inch size a 30 pound block. The odd one may have a minor chip in it since collisions can happen easily at these power levels. Rare Earth Ring Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=40075cat=1,42363,42348 These are shaped like a washer with a hole in the middle and various outside and inside diameter options are available. Oh, and they are cheap, too, the quarter inch is 36 Cents a piece if you buy less than 10, then they are 29 Cents, the 3/8 inch ones are 58 Cents and 46 Cents and the half inch ones are 85m Cents and 80 Cents, but those would be way too strong for the purpose of holding the Standscan together. I still have 8 of the quarter inch ones and I'll see if tomorrow I can replace some of the ones that don't work with them and I'll report back as to how it worked. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
I would think that plastic would have been stronger and lighter then cardboard. And, what happens if it gets wet? I think I'll hold off on this product until they get the kinks worked out a little better. It does sound like a great idea and product but I would want it portable as well. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:31 PM Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hello ron, I am sure it could be done, but if you wanted this to be portable you would have to use 1/8 inch plywood and even then it would probably be much heavier than the Standscan. I guess as early adopters you always run into the problem that the product you bought might be improved and you end up with a version that is not as good as that which is made after feedback and improvements are implemented. Harry sent me an email today saying that the new production run is made from thicker cartbord which is laminated on both sides hence is more durable and that they use magnets that are 180% stronger and they also improved the location of the notch for the cable. Oh well, it's still a good product and I at least will mostly use it at home where I don't mind if the thing is just setup and has a few pieces of tape on it. I assume a few strategically placed Velcro strips might help for those of us where the magnets don't work all that well. Regards, Sieghard slightly thicker heavier by a multiple -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Sieghard, I thought it may not be a bad idea to use these round or square pieces of Velcro on the two places that seem to be the weakest. In my case, I find that the 2 magnets on the left side really need to be stronger. I mean the back left where the wire comes out and the front left. I'm not saying that they are the only 2 weak magnets because I feal that they are all too weak. What do you think of that idea? Do you think that would help? Also, I was thinking of your idea of making one out of plywood. Do you think that it would be possible to use small piano hinges to make it foldable? Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Sieghard; After reading this thread very carefully, I agree with you. I'm just glad I didn't order this item and, get sucked in. Anthony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable should be sticking out from the far left corner. Fingers crossed for you, Sandy. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT To:
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Ron, Belive me, those things are so strong that anything that is half an inch and up you have a hard time separating by hand. The quarter inch ones at least those from Lee Valley are rated to lift 2.5 pounds, but for purposes of the Standscan they should be plenty strong. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Amazon has them. I just placed an order for the ¼ inch. They claim they are so strong that only one of those will hold a calendar on your fridge. Not sure if I believe that they can hold up to 8 pounds but I'll see when I get them. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Keith, I am not sure where you are, but I would just google it. Amazon probably has them, I definitely know that Lee Valley Tools has them which is where I buy mine. Lee Valley Tools is a Canadian company which sells woodworker supplies, tools, all sorts of specialty hardware and so on. Their website is www.LeeValleyTools.com. When you first go to the website you have only 4 links to choose from: En - for English, Canada Fr - for French, Canada US - for the United States Int - if you are an international customers outside of North America. It's one of those stores where as a woodworker I should not go too often, I've spend many thousands of Dollars there over the years. Here are a few link for some of the rare earth magnets they have: Rare Earth Circular Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32065cat=1,42363,42348 Here a bit of a blurb about their qualities, the largest 1 inch diameter magnetwill ift a 30 pound block of steel: Until you have actually used rare-earth magnets, you cannot appreciate their strength. Rare-earth magnets achieve maximum attractive force when sandwiched between two pieces of steel. The 1/4 diameter by 1/10 thick magnet will lift a 2.5 lb block of steel; the 1/2 diameter one will lift a 9 lb block - see the chart at right. It all has to do with the electron array in the neodymium, the rare earth they are made from. There are hundreds of uses for these magnets - from holding keys or wrenches on machines to making fridge magnets. Nickel plated with slightly rounded edges, they can be glued in place with almost any glue (epoxy is the most secure). The 3/4 and 1 dia. magnets are so powerful that only people with very strong hands can separate them without using an aid of some kind. This presents a handling problem for us, so we sell them only in bundles of five, with instructions for simple separation methods. The 3/4 inch magnet will lift a 22 pound block of steel and the 1 inch size a 30 pound block. The odd one may have a minor chip in it since collisions can happen easily at these power levels. Rare Earth Ring Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=40075cat=1,42363,42348 These are shaped like a washer with a hole in the middle and various outside and inside diameter options are available. Oh, and they are cheap, too, the quarter inch is 36 Cents a piece if you buy less than 10, then they are 29 Cents, the 3/8 inch ones are 58 Cents and 46 Cents and the half inch ones are 85m Cents and 80 Cents, but those would be way too strong for the purpose of holding the Standscan together. I still have 8 of the quarter inch ones and I'll see if tomorrow I can replace some of the ones that don't work with them and I'll report back as to how it worked. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi all. Ok I agree that cardboard is not the best material, to built a standscan, and there should be done some research to find a better material. I disagree that the product is not the 30 dollars worth. Here in Denmark everything costs, especially items that can make things easier for me as a blind person. I think I will order an extra standscan pro, so that if mine should broke I have a new one. It really helps me especially to scan barcodes, that is a totally new world that you can scan barcodes so easy. Best regards Annie. On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sieghard; After reading this thread very carefully, I agree with you. I'm just glad I didn't order this item and, get sucked in. Anthony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM,
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Annie, With all the suggestions that have been made, maybe you should wait a bit to buy your second one. Already they are talking about the next order being thicker cardboard and laminated on both sides with magnets 180% stronger. I also agree with you that the price is not an object. With what things cost today, you sure don't expect a whole lot for under $30. If they could come up with something stronger for a few dollars more, the price still would be acceptable and the extra strength much needed. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi all. Ok I agree that cardboard is not the best material, to built a standscan, and there should be done some research to find a better material. I disagree that the product is not the 30 dollars worth. Here in Denmark everything costs, especially items that can make things easier for me as a blind person. I think I will order an extra standscan pro, so that if mine should broke I have a new one. It really helps me especially to scan barcodes, that is a totally new world that you can scan barcodes so easy. Best regards Annie. On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sieghard; After reading this thread very carefully, I agree with you. I'm just glad I didn't order this item and, get sucked in. Anthony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-)
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
I completely agree. I used Prizmo, by itself on my iPhone, for the past few years. I have been a power-user of Prizmo, using it several times per week for mail and occasionally for menus in a few restaurants. That said, the ease-of-use of the StandScan Pro, and the speed of TextGrabber when using the StandScan Pro is astounding. Next week, I am going to take my StandScan Pro to the university library and try it on some journals that are not online which have articles I need to access for my research. The most amazing thing to me is that it is all done with my little iPhone 5. The quality is comparable to my old system using a flat-bed scanner and computer, but it is completely portable. And, the cost is so much less expensive. My first StandScan Pro has already paid for itself in the amount of time it is saving me. Considering how much librarians do not like having certain books placed on flat-bed scanners because it stresses, and eventually ruins the binding, I am completely satisfied with my initial purchase. When my StandScan Pro starts failing, which may be fairly soon given how much use I am putting it through, hopefully the updated model will last longer. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 06/04/2013, at 11:12, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. Ok I agree that cardboard is not the best material, to built a standscan, and there should be done some research to find a better material. I disagree that the product is not the 30 dollars worth. Here in Denmark everything costs, especially items that can make things easier for me as a blind person. I think I will order an extra standscan pro, so that if mine should broke I have a new one. It really helps me especially to scan barcodes, that is a totally new world that you can scan barcodes so easy. Best regards Annie. On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Anthony Vece ajv...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sieghard; After reading this thread very carefully, I agree with you. I'm just glad I didn't order this item and, get sucked in. Anthony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Annie, Harry told me in an email that some of the people who ordered their Standscan towards the very end of the promotion are going to receive the version from the new production run which, as Ron pointed out, is made from stronger cartbord that is laminated on both sides and has stronger magnets. I think if you order a second one now it's pretty safe you would get that version. It would be very interesting since you would probably the first who has both versions. I am in fact thinking I might do the same since I wouldn't mind having one set up at home and having one at my store or for taking along and of course I would use the new one to take along as it sounds stronger. I also agree that the $30 don't just buy you a cartboard box, they do buy you a cartboard box with an LED module and if you took advantage of the promo you actually got a cartboard box with light source and an adapter which you would you pay $10 for at Radio Shack for $27. For me the benrefit is not so much how well the product is made but how much use I get out of it and there is no question that with the Standscan you actually get very good scans out of your iPhone and a $10 app where before it was a matter of luck whether you got a useable result or not. Anyhow, Harry did ask for suggestions and feedback and I did post that so all of those who complain should just write to Standscan and explain what they would like to see in future versions of the Standscan. Of course they would have to send a constructive message rather than putting down the product and complaining. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Yes, it would be nice to see this product made of a sturdier material. My problem was the bottom of the box kept bowing up. I took a pattern holder/marker, which is a sheet of metal with strrips of magnets, and placed the sheet under the bottom of the Stand Scan. I then just put the magnet strips on the bottom of the box. It now sits niceand flat.. Crystal From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable should be sticking out from the far left corner. Fingers crossed for you, Sandy. Sent from my iPhone Begin
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Sieghard. It would be nice, if the box could be built in another material, but what kind of material would be as lightwaight and easy to carry around. It could be done in some sort of plastic, but when the producing will be more difficult. Best regards Annie. On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable should be sticking out from the far left corner. Fingers crossed for you, Sandy. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Subject:
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
I'm sure some sort of poly resin would work well, but who knows about production cost and whatnot. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov Nielsen Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Sieghard. It would be nice, if the box could be built in another material, but what kind of material would be as lightwaight and easy to carry around. It could be done in some sort of plastic, but when the producing will be more difficult. Best regards Annie. On Apr 4, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Sieghard, I thought it may not be a bad idea to use these round or square pieces of Velcro on the two places that seem to be the weakest. In my case, I find that the 2 magnets on the left side really need to be stronger. I mean the back left where the wire comes out and the front left. I'm not saying that they are the only 2 weak magnets because I feal that they are all too weak. What do you think of that idea? Do you think that would help? Also, I was thinking of your idea of making one out of plywood. Do you think that it would be possible to use small piano hinges to make it foldable? Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
My Stand Scan Pro was having the same problem, so I ran my thumb nail along all the folds, to insure that they were creased, and would lie flat. Hindsight being 20 20 I think using the edge of a butter knife would be less stressful on my thumb. Now my Stand scan pro sets up quickly, and feels solid, The magnets hold very wellI can pick it up and shake it and it holds together. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Chuck and All, I am not so sure that I would shake the StandScan. I beliele that the wire for the cable that connects to the lights is fragil. I need to observe this some more, but I think I have a loose connection. With the amount of light perception, I noticed that the light wasn't on. I did some trouble shootingu and came to the conclusion that the wire connected to the lights is fragil and needs some TLC so the StandScan will last. I am thinking that this device is a great device, but maybe it wasn't ready for prime time. Like others, I would like to see the StandScan manufacture in a more durable material. JMO. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@me.com wrote: My Stand Scan Pro was having the same problem, so I ran my thumb nail along all the folds, to insure that they were creased, and would lie flat. Hindsight being 20 20 I think using the edge of a butter knife would be less stressful on my thumb. Now my Stand scan pro sets up quickly, and feels solid, The magnets hold very wellI can pick it up and shake it and it holds together. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hello ron, I am sure it could be done, but if you wanted this to be portable you would have to use 1/8 inch plywood and even then it would probably be much heavier than the Standscan. I guess as early adopters you always run into the problem that the product you bought might be improved and you end up with a version that is not as good as that which is made after feedback and improvements are implemented. Harry sent me an email today saying that the new production run is made from thicker cartbord which is laminated on both sides hence is more durable and that they use magnets that are 180% stronger and they also improved the location of the notch for the cable. Oh well, it's still a good product and I at least will mostly use it at home where I don't mind if the thing is just setup and has a few pieces of tape on it. I assume a few strategically placed Velcro strips might help for those of us where the magnets don't work all that well. Regards, Sieghard slightly thicker heavier by a multiple -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:46 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Sieghard, I thought it may not be a bad idea to use these round or square pieces of Velcro on the two places that seem to be the weakest. In my case, I find that the 2 magnets on the left side really need to be stronger. I mean the back left where the wire comes out and the front left. I'm not saying that they are the only 2 weak magnets because I feal that they are all too weak. What do you think of that idea? Do you think that would help? Also, I was thinking of your idea of making one out of plywood. Do you think that it would be possible to use small piano hinges to make it foldable? Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Any ideas where I could look for rare earth magnets in my area? Do hardware stores carry these sorts of things? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:50 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi Annie and Krister, I received my Standscan yesterday and while I had the benefit of reading the various posts regarding setting it up, I found the detailed descriptions very difficult to understand without the Standscan in front of you. Anyhow, it took me maybe 15 minutes to figure it out, after all, the places where one has to fold it are easily felt. However, my Standscan will not hold together properly without a bit of tape especially on the front top corners where the opening is and the back corner where the cable comes out. I know mine is part of a new production batch so maybe that has something to do with it, but just to make sure that I wasn't doing this wrong, I asked my manager at my store to put it together. He is sighted, he has gone to college for plumbing and electrician, he is a hobby woodworker same as myself and all around a handy kind of guy. He looked at the instructions and put it together. It turns out that I had done it correctly, but the place where the cable is supposed to come out is slightly mis-aligned and the magnets on the top in the front where the opening is and on the side where the cable comes out (after he made the notch a bit larger) will not hold even though they line up. Now that I have the Standscan I agree that the way the product is made should be improved and possibly a different material might be required to make it fit better, last longer and hold together more securely. If I were to carry this thing around with me in my pack all the time even in some sort of protective envelope, I could see how repeated setting it up and taking it down would probably wear it out and, as I said, in my case I would definitely have to replace some of the magnets. I may actually try this anyways and use some very small rare earth magnets. Those things are maybe slightly thicker, but they could probably be glued to the outside of the cartbord as they are so strong that they would easily work through the cartbord. Anyhow, now that I have a Standscan, I am planning to measure it and I will probably built a box out of 1/8 or 1/4 inch oak plywood with these exact dimensions. This would not be designed as a portable, take-down box, but I could make one for at home and one for at work and maybe after some magnet replacements I can then just use the Standscan for the occasional trip to a trade show or so where I might need it. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Standscan pro - I admit defeat Hi, Yeah, i find i have trouble keeping the Standscan together so to speak, because the magnets aren't strong enough and tend to loosen their grip, but now at least i have it up and running after much sorrow and epic failures. Too bad you can't put it up on a restaurant table so you can study the menu, but hey you can't get everything now can you?:-) /Krister 4 apr 2013 kl. 14:36 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com: Hi. Normally I am a good builder, I love taking things apart and put them together again. This one took me an afternoon and an evening, but I can do it now. I needed to find the system. 1 important thing is to be sure the flaps are folded corectly and folded enough. I think I would recommend to have a sighted person to fold it the first time, mine was in fact a little difficult. I have got an idea, if it was possible to get magnetsthat are a little different, so that the equal magnets should fit together. I also think I will recommend that if they on standscan know a standscan has been ordered by a blind, that they fold it the first time, because when it is much easier when you will have to fold it again. Best regards Annie. On Apr 2, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com wrote: Annie, Sorry you are having problems, stick with it! I am forwarding to the list both my description and that excellent one of David. They are both using a different style, so hopefully, between the two, you might have more success! Take it one step at a time and remember, the flap with the whole in it is the lig of your box. Once this lid is in position, the little cable should be sticking out from the far left corner. Fingers crossed for you, Sandy. Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: Sandratomkins sandratomk...@googlemail.com Date: 28 March 2013 16:09:14 GMT To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Hi Keith, I am not sure where you are, but I would just google it. Amazon probably has them, I definitely know that Lee Valley Tools has them which is where I buy mine. Lee Valley Tools is a Canadian company which sells woodworker supplies, tools, all sorts of specialty hardware and so on. Their website is www.LeeValleyTools.com. When you first go to the website you have only 4 links to choose from: En - for English, Canada Fr - for French, Canada US - for the United States Int - if you are an international customers outside of North America. It's one of those stores where as a woodworker I should not go too often, I've spend many thousands of Dollars there over the years. Here are a few link for some of the rare earth magnets they have: Rare Earth Circular Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=32065cat=1,42363,42348 Here a bit of a blurb about their qualities, the largest 1 inch diameter magnetwill ift a 30 pound block of steel: Until you have actually used rare-earth magnets, you cannot appreciate their strength. Rare-earth magnets achieve maximum attractive force when sandwiched between two pieces of steel. The 1/4 diameter by 1/10 thick magnet will lift a 2.5 lb block of steel; the 1/2 diameter one will lift a 9 lb block - see the chart at right. It all has to do with the electron array in the neodymium, the rare earth they are made from. There are hundreds of uses for these magnets - from holding keys or wrenches on machines to making fridge magnets. Nickel plated with slightly rounded edges, they can be glued in place with almost any glue (epoxy is the most secure). The 3/4 and 1 dia. magnets are so powerful that only people with very strong hands can separate them without using an aid of some kind. This presents a handling problem for us, so we sell them only in bundles of five, with instructions for simple separation methods. The 3/4 inch magnet will lift a 22 pound block of steel and the 1 inch size a 30 pound block. The odd one may have a minor chip in it since collisions can happen easily at these power levels. Rare Earth Ring Magnets: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=40075cat=1,42363,42348 These are shaped like a washer with a hole in the middle and various outside and inside diameter options are available. Oh, and they are cheap, too, the quarter inch is 36 Cents a piece if you buy less than 10, then they are 29 Cents, the 3/8 inch ones are 58 Cents and 46 Cents and the half inch ones are 85m Cents and 80 Cents, but those would be way too strong for the purpose of holding the Standscan together. I still have 8 of the quarter inch ones and I'll see if tomorrow I can replace some of the ones that don't work with them and I'll report back as to how it worked. Regards, Sieghard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Folks, I am NOT typically a whiner about prices; but in the case of the ScanStand I feel horribly ripped off. I paid $27.00 for what is essentially a shoe box with a flashlight built into it. And not a very sturdy shoe box at that! This is not a product I’d recommend to anybody. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: wfgal...@charter.net - Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
Here are some thoughts I have: - Substitute material should not be any plastic because the heat generated by lighting would likely warp it. - aluminum flashing framed by lightweight angle aluminum (maybe ź) - mount lighting a bit off the framing to prevent overheating metal and burning users - wing sheet metal screws to fasten flashing to framing for quick assembly/disassembly This would probably add to the cost of producing the product; make it about worth $30; I'd anticipate the most expense would be drilling the holes for wing sheet metal screws into the flashing and framing to align properly Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: wfgal...@charter.net - Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
I personally believe that piano hinges and plywood would make for a very stable non-portable product. But plywood would tend to be a bit heavy and awkward; not for many I'm sure, but I suspect a notable number of folks would find plywood construction a bit too bulky. The idea of the piano hinges is an excellent thought; I had considered adding that to my aluminum version, but I think that may add a bit of unnecessary cost to a production run. And, I wonder if graphite material might not serve as a sturdy, lightweight possibility as well. Holland's Person, Bill E-Mail: wfgal...@charter.net - Always acknowledge a fault. This will throw those in authority off their guard and give you an opportunity to commit more. - US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Standscan not holding together and other thoughts on the product, was: Standscan pro - I admit defeat
As I said above, once I went through all the folds and made sure they were creased My Stand scan is very sturdy and is much easier to set up. I keep mine folded and out of the way since I can set it up in less than 10 seconds. A little rubber cement amd three pennies and I can put the iPhone in the proper location every time. All things considered, I got a very clever device that makes scanning with my iPhone a breeze. I wouldn't change a thing. Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
