Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

Guys,

I did manage to pull off the phone to phone transfer from an iPhone 7 running 
iOS 14X to an iPhone 13 running 15X and all seems to be going just fine.  
Thanks for all the help.
Best,
Kevin

> On Dec 5, 2021, at 10:48 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Kelly,
> 
> Please post a support article explaining your comment:  "the extra iCloud 
> temporary storage to hold all the data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 
> 15". Following my signature, I'm posting an Apple Support article discussing 
> the iPhone Quick Start phone to phone transfer process and it mentions 
> nothing about iOS 15 and iCloud storage. It can be found at the following 
> link:
> 
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> Use Quick Start to transfer data to a new iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch
> 
> Set up your new iOS device automatically using an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch.
> Set up your new device with Quick Start
> 
> Quick Start occupies both devices, so make sure that you choose a time when 
> you won't need to use your current device for several minutes.
> 
> A new iPhone showing the Quick Start screen. The instructions ask you to put 
> your old device near your new one. 
> 
>Turn on your new device and place it near your current device.
>A screen appears on your current device that offers the option of using 
> your Apple ID to set up your new device. Make sure that it's the Apple ID 
> that you want to use, then tap Continue. If you don't see the option to 
> continue on your current device, make sure that Bluetooth is turned on.
>Wait for an animation to appear on your new device. Hold your current 
> device over the new device, then center the animation in the viewfinder.
>Wait for a message that says Finish on New [Device]. If you can't use your 
> current device's camera, tap Authenticate Manually, then follow the onscreen 
> steps.
>When asked, enter your current device's passcode on your new device. Then 
> follow the instructions to set up Face ID or Touch ID on your new device.
>When you see the Transfer Data from [Device] screen, tap Continue to begin 
> transferring your data from your previous device to your new device. Or you 
> can tap Other Options to transfer apps, data, and settings from your most 
> recent iCloud backup or transfer from a backup on your computer.
> 
> Keep your devices near each other and plugged in to power until the data 
> migration process is complete. Transfer times can vary based on factors such 
> as network conditions and the amount of data being transferred.
> Still need help?
> 
>Learn what to do if you can't activate your iPhone.
>If you need more help, contact Apple Support.
> 
> Published Date: September 20, 2021
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new 
> iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
> 
> Possibly. But if he wants the extra iCloud temporary storage to hold all the 
> data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 15.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/5/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> Kelly,
>> 
>> I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a 
>> wireless phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a 
>> version of iOS that supports this transfer and it must not be running 
>> a newer version of iOS than the target iPhone. Other than that, I 
>> don't believe there are any restrictions.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
>> Kelly Pierce 
>> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>> 
>> You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs 
>> transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15 
>> so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to 
>> upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your 
>> Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent 
>> by text message to download the apps from the app store.
>> 
>> I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed 
>> up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that 
>> backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks 
>&

RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Alan Lemly]

Kelly,

Please post a support article explaining your comment:  "the extra iCloud 
temporary storage to hold all the data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 
15". Following my signature, I'm posting an Apple Support article discussing 
the iPhone Quick Start phone to phone transfer process and it mentions nothing 
about iOS 15 and iCloud storage. It can be found at the following link:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210216

Alan Lemly

Use Quick Start to transfer data to a new iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch

Set up your new iOS device automatically using an iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch.
Set up your new device with Quick Start

Quick Start occupies both devices, so make sure that you choose a time when you 
won't need to use your current device for several minutes.

A new iPhone showing the Quick Start screen. The instructions ask you to put 
your old device near your new one. 

Turn on your new device and place it near your current device.
A screen appears on your current device that offers the option of using 
your Apple ID to set up your new device. Make sure that it's the Apple ID that 
you want to use, then tap Continue. If you don't see the option to continue on 
your current device, make sure that Bluetooth is turned on.
Wait for an animation to appear on your new device. Hold your current 
device over the new device, then center the animation in the viewfinder.
Wait for a message that says Finish on New [Device]. If you can't use your 
current device's camera, tap Authenticate Manually, then follow the onscreen 
steps.
When asked, enter your current device's passcode on your new device. Then 
follow the instructions to set up Face ID or Touch ID on your new device.
When you see the Transfer Data from [Device] screen, tap Continue to begin 
transferring your data from your previous device to your new device. Or you can 
tap Other Options to transfer apps, data, and settings from your most recent 
iCloud backup or transfer from a backup on your computer.

Keep your devices near each other and plugged in to power until the data 
migration process is complete. Transfer times can vary based on factors such as 
network conditions and the amount of data being transferred.
Still need help?

Learn what to do if you can't activate your iPhone.
If you need more help, contact Apple Support.

Published Date: September 20, 2021

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

Possibly. But if he wants the extra iCloud temporary storage to hold all the 
data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 15.

Kelly



On 12/5/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a 
> wireless phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a 
> version of iOS that supports this transfer and it must not be running 
> a newer version of iOS than the target iPhone. Other than that, I 
> don't believe there are any restrictions.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Kelly Pierce 
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>
> You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs 
> transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15 
> so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to 
> upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your 
> Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent 
> by text message to download the apps from the app store.
>
> I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed 
> up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that 
> backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks 
> when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple 
> backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a 
> computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went 
> smoothly.
>
> Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery 
> management and Face ID.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac 
>> and not from my pone?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything 
>>

Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Simon,

Well, when I was setting up my new iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15 and attempted 
a phone to phone transfer from my SE 2020 running iOS 15.02, the transfer 
failed four times until I set up the 13 Mini as a new device and upgraded it to 
a later version of iOS than was running on the SE.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
Fogarty 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 8:40:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?


Allan,



And kellie,



So long as both phones have IOS versions later than 11

Then the wireless transferr will work between the devices,





As for the older device,

It should not matter if the IOS Versions are different

The transfer can actually intergrate the update of the IOS version on the new 
dvice if the older phone has a newer OS version.





So it shouldn’t be an issue for you with the transfer.



Good luck.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 12:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?



Kelly,



I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a wireless 
phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a version of iOS 
that supports this transfer and it must not be running a newer version of iOS 
than the target iPhone. Other than that, I don't believe there are any 
restrictions.



Alan Lemly



Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Kelly 
Pierce mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?



You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
by text message to download the apps from the app store.

I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
smoothly.

Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
management and Face ID.

Kelly



On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 
> denni...@gmail.com<mailto:denni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>> including ring tones.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com<mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of
>> *Kevin
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because
>>
>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is
>>
>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I
>>
>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>> backups.
>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But
>>
>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 
>> jhud...@twc.com<mailto:jhud...@twc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>> wi

RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Allan,

And kellie,

So long as both phones have IOS versions later than 11
Then the wireless transferr will work between the devices,


As for the older device,
It should not matter if the IOS Versions are different
The transfer can actually intergrate the update of the IOS version on the new 
dvice if the older phone has a newer OS version.


So it shouldn’t be an issue for you with the transfer.

Good luck.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, 6 December 2021 12:42 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

Kelly,

I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a wireless 
phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a version of iOS 
that supports this transfer and it must not be running a newer version of iOS 
than the target iPhone. Other than that, I don't believe there are any 
restrictions.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on behalf of Kelly 
Pierce mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
by text message to download the apps from the app store.

I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
smoothly.

Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
management and Face ID.

Kelly



On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs mailto:kevj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 
> denni...@gmail.com<mailto:denni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>> including ring tones.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com<mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>> *On Behalf Of
>> *Kevin
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because
>>
>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is
>>
>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I
>>
>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>> backups.
>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But
>>
>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 
>> jhud...@twc.com<mailto:jhud...@twc.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
>> > mailto:kev...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7.
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another,
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my
>> ancient
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take
>> forever.
>> >
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the
>> cloud and all my apps 

Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kelly Pierce]

Possibly. But if he wants the extra iCloud temporary storage to hold
all the data on his phone in iCloud, he needs iOS 15.

Kelly



On 12/5/21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Kelly,
>
> I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a wireless
> phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a version of iOS
> that supports this transfer and it must not be running a newer version of
> iOS than the target iPhone. Other than that, I don't believe there are any
> restrictions.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Kelly
> Pierce 
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new
> iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>
> You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
> transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
> so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
> upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
> Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
> by text message to download the apps from the app store.
>
> I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
> up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
> backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
> when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
> backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
> computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
> smoothly.
>
> Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
> management and Face ID.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
>> not from my pone?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>>> including ring tones.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>>> *Kevin
>>> Gibbs
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>>> *To:* VIPhone 
>>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good
>>> because
>>>
>>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini
>>> is
>>>
>>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer,
>>> I
>>>
>>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>>> backups.
>>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.
>>> But
>>>
>>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>>>
>>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Guys,
>>> >
>>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7.
>>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another,
>>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my
>>> ancient
>>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take
>>> forever.
>>> >
>>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the
>>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible
>>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC
>>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any
>>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Kevin
>>> >
>>> > --
>>

Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Alan Lemly]

Kelly,

I don't think both iPhones must be running iOS 15 in order to do a wireless 
phone to phone transfer. The source iPhone must be running a version of iOS 
that supports this transfer and it must not be running a newer version of iOS 
than the target iPhone. Other than that, I don't believe there are any 
restrictions.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Kelly 
Pierce 
Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 4:19:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
by text message to download the apps from the app store.

I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
smoothly.

Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
management and Face ID.

Kelly



On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>> including ring tones.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Kevin
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because
>>
>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is
>>
>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I
>>
>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>> backups.
>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But
>>
>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7.
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another,
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my
>> ancient
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take
>> forever.
>> >
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the
>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible
>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC
>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any
>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Kevin
>> >
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kelly Pierce]

You are missing the wireless iPhone to iPhone transfer. I had 100 gigs
transfer in less than an hour.  Both phones need to be running iOS 15
so if the iPhone 7 is not currently running 15, you will need to
upgrade. At the end of the process, you will need to enter in your
Apple ID and password and verify your identity by entering a code sent
by text message to download the apps from the app store.

I upgraded to an iPhone 13 Mini in November from a 7.  I also backed
up the 7 on my computer and used Apple’s new feature in iOS 15 that
backs up the entire contents of your phone to iCloud for a few weeks
when upgrading to a new phone.  This means I was actually triple
backed up: regular iCloud, temporary iCloud for phone upgrades, and a
computer backup if iCloud is unavailable. Fortunately, things went
smoothly.

Enjoy your phone. I am glad I upgraded for the better battery
management and Face ID.

Kelly



On 12/4/21, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything
>> including ring tones.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
>> *Kevin
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because
>>
>> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is
>>
>> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I
>>
>> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as
>> backups.
>>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But
>>
>> I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do.
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> >
>> > Guys,
>> >
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7.
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another,
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my
>> ancient
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take
>> forever.
>> >
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the
>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible
>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC
>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any
>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Kevin
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RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Any time you like,

They should take the same sim from memory
A nano

Use either a sim tool which should be in the paper work for your new phone or a 
paper clip to push out the sim tray of each device.
Note the sim card is small, so do the removal over a table or surface you can 
find the sim on if you drop it.

But you can do it at any time during the setup process of your new phone.

Good luck you’re not really going to have much trouble.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Sunday, 5 December 2021 8:22 pm
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

At what point should I remove the SIMM card from my iPhone 7.  Can it be placed 
in my iPhone 13?  do I need something else?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:06:35 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:
thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and not 
from my pone?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:
I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything including 
ring tones.

From: vip...@googlegroups.com<mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because my 
stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is not 
involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I should 
have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups.  should I 
not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But I should be 
covered.  Right?
On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 
jhud...@twc.com<mailto:jhud...@twc.com> wrote:
Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. Just 
make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts etc. etc., 
then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from Allan, skipping 
the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You will have all of your 
stuff in about 20 minutes.

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs 
> mailto:kev...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. Historically, I 
> always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 
> most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient Mac mini 2010 and doing 
> a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take forever.
>
> It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the cloud 
> and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible for me to 
> simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC and let it do 
> its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any faster, more 
> effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
>
> Thanks for any assistance or advice.
>
> Best,
> Kevin
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

At what point should I remove the SIMM card from my iPhone 7.  Can it be 
placed in my iPhone 13?  do I need something else?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 10:06:35 PM UTC-6 Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and 
> not from my pone?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything 
>> including ring tones.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
>> *Kevin 
>> Gibbs
>>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
>> *To:* VIPhone 
>> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
>> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>>
>>  
>>
>> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good 
>> because my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac 
>> mini is not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless 
>> transfer, I should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini 
>> as backups.  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to 
>> that.   But I should be covered.  Right?
>>
>> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
>> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
>> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
>> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
>> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes. 
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Guys, 
>> > 
>> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
>> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
>> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
>> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
>> forever. 
>> > 
>> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
>> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
>> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
>> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
>> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important? 
>> > 
>> > Thanks for any assistance or advice. 
>> > 
>> > Best, 
>> > Kevin 
>> > 
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

thanks for all the help.  why is it I can only reply here from my Mac and 
not from my pone?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 9:48:38 PM UTC-6 denni...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything 
> including ring tones.  
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of 
> *Kevin 
> Gibbs
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
> *To:* VIPhone 
> *Subject:* Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to 
> new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?
>
>  
>
> when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because 
> my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is 
> not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I 
> should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups. 
>  should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But 
> I should be covered.  Right?
>
> On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes. 
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote: 
> > 
> > Guys, 
> > 
> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
> forever. 
> > 
> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important? 
> > 
> > Thanks for any assistance or advice. 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > Kevin 
> > 
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RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Dennis Long]

I would think so.  The phone to phone transfer will get everything including 
ring tones.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 10:34 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 
13. Anything I should know?

 

when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because my 
stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is not 
involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I should 
have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups.  should I 
not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But I should be 
covered.  Right?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com 
<mailto:jhud...@twc.com>  wrote:

Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. Just 
make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts etc. etc., 
then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from Allan, skipping 
the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You will have all of your 
stuff in about 20 minutes. 

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  <mailto:kev...@gmail.com> > wrote: 
> 
> Guys, 
> 
> I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. Historically, I 
> always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 
> most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient Mac mini 2010 and doing 
> a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take forever. 
> 
> It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the cloud 
> and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible for me to 
> simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC and let it do 
> its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any faster, more 
> effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important? 
> 
> Thanks for any assistance or advice. 
> 
> Best, 
> Kevin 
> 
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Kevin Gibbs]

when you say, make sure your stuff is backed up, I assume I'm good because 
my stuff is both in the cloud and on my Mac mini.  so, if the Mac mini is 
not involved because I chose to do the phone to phone wireless transfer, I 
should have the Mac mini and the Time Machine for the Mac  Mini as backups. 
 should I not?Granted, that will be a real bear if it comes to that.   But 
I should be covered.  Right?

On Saturday, December 4, 2021 at 1:30:22 PM UTC-6 jhud...@twc.com wrote:

> Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. 
> Just make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts 
> etc. etc., then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from 
> Allan, skipping the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You 
> will have all of your stuff in about 20 minutes.
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> > 
> > Guys,
> > 
> > I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail. I have an iPhone 7. 
> Historically, I always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, 
> (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient 
> Mac mini 2010 and doing a hard transfer through iTunes. This would take 
> forever. 
> > 
> > It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the 
> cloud and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible 
> for me to simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC 
> and let it do its thing over night. Is that an option? Would it be any 
> faster, more effective, more efficient? Am I missing anything important?
> > 
> > Thanks for any assistance or advice.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Kevin
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Re: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[joseph hudson]

Hi Kevin, I've always done an iCloud transfer. And it's not hard to do. Just 
make sure that all your stuff is backed up, meaning photos contacts etc. etc., 
then whenever you perform the steps that somebody posted from Allan, skipping 
the iTunes part would definitely be the easier way. You will have all of your 
stuff in about 20 minutes.

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I just got a new iPhone 13 in the mail.  I have an iPhone 7.  Historically, I 
> always moved all my stuff from one iPhone to another, (iPhone 6 to iPhone 7 
> most recently,) by connecting a cable from my ancient Mac mini 2010 and doing 
> a hard transfer through iTunes.  This would take forever.  
> 
> It occurs to me that since my iTunes and iPhoto libraries are in the cloud 
> and all my apps should be there as well, I wonder if it’s possible for me to 
> simply sign into my iCloud account and connect the phone to AC and let it do 
> its thing over night.  Is that an option?  Would it be any faster, more 
> effective, more efficient?  Am I missing anything important?
> 
> Thanks for any assistance or advice.
> 
> Best,
> Kevin
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RE: Need advice on how to migrate data from old iPhone 7 to new iPhone 13. Anything I should know?

[Richard Turner]

Here is a good explanation of the Wireless transfer option now with iOS.

Alan Lemley wrote the following:
Hi List,

I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a new 
iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved as I only do 
this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE 2020 directly from the 
Apple Store app with no SIM card included since I have a prepaid Verizon plan 
and could not specify my carrier successfully when ordering. The below numbered 
list will be very detailed since I'd rather have too much information than not 
enough. Any settings provided came from my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.

1.  Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running its 
latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the lightning cable, and 
did an encrypted backup.
2.  Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple ID - 
iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and executing Backup now.
3.  I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any books 
downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored iPhone, I made a 
list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I wanted to re-download to my new 
iPhone and the location of any current reading position in those books.
4.  I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the new phone 
and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen appeared a few 
seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and I pressed the home 
button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover. Although I was hearing clicks as I 
swiped, Voiceover did not start talking until a number of seconds later. In 
fact, I pressed the home button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had 
turned Voiceover on. This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home 
button 3 times again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and 
when I swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.
5.  I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list of 
language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
6.  The screen which opened said Select your country or region heading. I 
double tapped on the United States button which was the first in the list.
7.  The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your current 
iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The older iPhone must be 
using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on. There was a button at the end 
to Set up manually.
8.  A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using my apple 
ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position some pattern in a 
circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually button instead.
9.  I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code displayed on my 
new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old iPhone. My new iPhone then 
prompted me to enter my passcode of my old iPhone. I had to double tap each 
number on the on screen number pad on my new iPhone since touch typing was not 
turned on.
10. I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
11. Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and lift my 
finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said Adjust your grip 
and it said keep going to capture the edges of your grip. I double tapped a 
Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
12. I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I got the 
Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed the Continue 
button at the bottom of that screen.
13. The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation said 
you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish downloading it 
later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from iPhone, Download from iCloud, 
or other options. The Transfer from iPhone said the time to transfer was about 
1 hour. The download from iCloud said I could start using my iPhone in about 15 
minutes and my data would download later over wifi. I executed the Transfer 
from iPhone button.
14. I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone where I 
double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.
15. I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where it 
listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, contacts, etc. and 
allowing maps to use my location. I executed the Continue button at the bottom 
of this screen without customizing any settings.
16. I was taken to a Keep your iPhone up to date heading screen which was 
basically a commercial for updating iOS automatically. At the bottom of this 
screen was a Continue button followed by an Install updates manually button. I 
chose the Install updates manually button.
17. I was then taken to a screen to Add cards to Apple Pay. Instead of 
executing the Continue button, I chose to Set up later in Wallet which was a 

RE: need advice

[Anthony Borg]

I am updating the itunes from the Microsoft stores. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: 25 September 2021 05:45
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

 

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

 

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: need advice

 

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone. 

I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean. 

Thanks 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: need advice

 

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: need advice

 

Hi 

 

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes 
version? 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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RE: need advice

[Anthony Borg]

I tried to do that but it didn’t worked as the apple software had already 
prompt me before. Then I decided to updated and I can’t understand why the 
voice has changed automatically from a male to a feamle.

It is really a strange thing. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 25 September 2021 08:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

 

You can still download the same version of iTunes as a desktop application from 
Apple as what you can get from the Microsoft Store.

 

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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: September 24, 2021 8:45 PM
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Subject: RE: need advice

 

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

 

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: need advice

 

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone. 

I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean. 

Thanks 

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: need advice

 

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

 

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Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

 

Hi 

 

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes 
version? 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

You can still download the same version of iTunes as a desktop application from 
Apple as what you can get from the Microsoft Store.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 24, 2021 8:45 PM
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Subject: RE: need advice

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
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What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: need advice

[Simon A Fogarty]

Are you downloading itunes from the apple website or from the windows / 
Microsoft store?

The Microsoft store is where you go to get iTunes now as apple don’t have the 
updated version on their website any longer.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: need advice

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you are just trying to update iTunes on your computer there is no reason to 
even plug in your iPhone, you either go through Apple software update or 
download the latest version of either the desktop version of the Microsoft 
Store version depends on which one you use) and update it.

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Unplug your iPhone from the computer, reboot the computer, and try again.


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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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Re: need advice

[Richard Turner]

Unplug your iPhone from the computer, reboot the computer, and try again.



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On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:


Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: need advice

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am not sure what the connection is between updating iTunes on your PC and iOS 
15. Yes, you may need the latest update of iTunes if you want to use iOS 15 and 
connect your phone to the PC, this has always been so, everytime a major iOS 
update came out usually you also had to update iTunes. However, the latest 
version of iTunes should be backwards compatible with iOS 14, iOS 13 etc.

What exactly are you doing to update your iTunes on the PC ands what exactly is 
the error message you get?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: September 24, 2021 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone.
I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

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Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Anthony

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RE: need advice

[Anthony Borg]

Oh yes, I am referring to the itunes on my pc, it isn’t letting me to update 
the new itunes update without update the apple latest software on my iphone. 

I  hope you would be able to understand what I mean. 

Thanks 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: 24 September 2021 19:23
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

 

What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

 

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Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: need advice

 

Hi 

 

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes 
version? 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

 

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RE: need advice

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What does iTunes have to do with iOS 15? I assume when you are talking about 
iTunes you mean iTunes on the computer?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
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Sent: September 23, 2021 6:59 PM
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Subject: need advice

Hi

I don’t want to update to the latest software so can anyone explain to me how 
to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest itunes version?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

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Re: need advice

[Donna Casteen]

On your iPhone, iPad? If so, updating just iTunes I don't think is possible 
without updating to IOS 15.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi
>  
> I don’t want to update to the latest Apple software so can anyone explain to 
> me how to block it, because it isn’t letting me to update to the latest 
> itunes version?
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[anthony borg]

Thank you for the info which is very useful
Best regards
Anthony

Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Nov 2019, at 17:09, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
> your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
> Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
> Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
> the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
> cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your 
> iDevice. I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud 
> service across all the apps I use.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: need advice
>  
> I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
> Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone 
> and save it where you want"
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks 
> I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
> iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
> iphone. 
> Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match? 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Anthony 
> 
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Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Keith Bierman]

loud storage and email work well for
> saving and sending files. However, each device needs a strong data or
> internet connection to transfer files or access email.
> Bluetooth vs. File Transfer App: The Google Play Store and the Apple App
> Store have apps that transfer files from one device to another. Some of
> these apps only work when both devices have the same app and some may need
> a wireless or data connection.
> Types of Transferrable Files
> Most any type of file can be transferred over Bluetooth: documents,
> photos, videos, music, apps, and more. If a file is stored in a folder on a
> computer or smartphone, you can send it. The receiving device needs to be
> able to recognize the file type to open it (for example, if the sending
> devices transfer a PDF document, the receiving device needs an app that
> reads PDFs).
>
> The limitation of using Bluetooth to transfer data is the size of the
> files versus the transfer rate. The Bluetooth transfer rate depends on the
> version:
>
> Bluetooth 2.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 2.1 Mbit/s (about 0.25
> MB/s).
> Bluetooth 3.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 24 Mbit/s (about 3 MB/s).
> Bluetooth 4.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 24 Mbit/s (about 3 MB/s).
> Bluetooth 5.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 50 Mbit/s (about 6 MB/s).
> To use Bluetooth to send an 8 MB photo from one smartphone to another, and
> both smartphones have Bluetooth version 3.x/4.x, the photo transfers in
> about three seconds. A single 25 MB music file takes about nine seconds. A
> 1 GB video file takes about seven minutes. These times reflect the maximum
> speed, actual data transfer rates are less than the maximum specified.
>
> Compared to other ways of transferring data, Bluetooth is slow. For
> example, USB 2.0 has an effective throughput of up to 35 MB/s, 11 times
> faster than the Bluetooth 3.x/4.x maximum rate. USB 3.0, which is the most
> common, is around 600MB/s. Wi-Fi speeds range from 6 MB/s to over 25 MB/s
> (depending on protocol version), which is anywhere between two to six times
> faster than the Bluetooth 3.x/4.x maximum rate.
>
> Tips for Bluetooth File Transfer
> To get the best speed and results when transferring files, follow these
> tips:
>
> Disconnect smartphones, tablets, and computers from other Bluetooth
> devices (for example, wireless speakers and headphones).
> Some devices may limit the number of files that can be transferred at a
> given time, so it may be necessary to transfer files one at a time, rather
> than in batches.
> Keep the sending and receiving devices as close to each other as possible
> with a clear line of sight. This maintains the best signal strength that
> won’t be interrupted by other wireless signals and physical obstacles.
> Close other apps until all files have transferred. Bluetooth does the
> sending and receiving, but the device needs processing power to write the
> data to storage.
> Troubleshoot your Bluetooth devices if there are problems with pairing.
> Was this page helpful?
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE:
> need advice
>
> I have not purchased one yet, but what about the card reader that is
> supposed to work with iOS 13 so that you could copy a file to an SD card
> and put it in the reader that connects via the lightning port on the iPhone.
> Then, use the files app to get it from the card to the iPhone?
>
> Just a thought.
>
>
> Richard
>
>  Live long and prosper
>
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf
> Of *Anna Dresner
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:32 AM
> *To:* VIPhone Mailing List 
> *Subject:* Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE:
> need advice
>
> Hi,
>
> AirDrop only works between Macs and iDevices, not Windows machines and
> iDevices. You could use iTunes file sharing. If you need to share files
> between a PC and an iDevice on a regular basis, it is also supposed to be
> possible to use a protocol called SMB to connect your PC to your phone so
> that your phone sees it as a drive. I couldn't figure out how to do this
> when I was writing my iOS 13 book, but there should be some good
> instructions out there by now.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:
>
> I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful
> information.
> At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which
> was the request.
>
>
> Richard
>

Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Anna Dresner]

ta connection.
> Types of Transferrable Files
> Most any type of file can be transferred over Bluetooth: documents, photos, 
> videos, music, apps, and more. If a file is stored in a folder on a computer 
> or smartphone, you can send it. The receiving device needs to be able to 
> recognize the file type to open it (for example, if the sending devices 
> transfer a PDF document, the receiving device needs an app that reads PDFs).
>  
> The limitation of using Bluetooth to transfer data is the size of the files 
> versus the transfer rate. The Bluetooth transfer rate depends on the version:
>  
> Bluetooth 2.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 2.1 Mbit/s (about 0.25 
> MB/s).
> Bluetooth 3.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 24 Mbit/s (about 3 MB/s).
> Bluetooth 4.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 24 Mbit/s (about 3 MB/s).
> Bluetooth 5.x has a maximum data transfer rate of 50 Mbit/s (about 6 MB/s).
> To use Bluetooth to send an 8 MB photo from one smartphone to another, and 
> both smartphones have Bluetooth version 3.x/4.x, the photo transfers in about 
> three seconds. A single 25 MB music file takes about nine seconds. A 1 GB 
> video file takes about seven minutes. These times reflect the maximum speed, 
> actual data transfer rates are less than the maximum specified.
>  
> Compared to other ways of transferring data, Bluetooth is slow. For example, 
> USB 2.0 has an effective throughput of up to 35 MB/s, 11 times faster than 
> the Bluetooth 3.x/4.x maximum rate. USB 3.0, which is the most common, is 
> around 600MB/s. Wi-Fi speeds range from 6 MB/s to over 25 MB/s (depending on 
> protocol version), which is anywhere between two to six times faster than the 
> Bluetooth 3.x/4.x maximum rate.
>  
> Tips for Bluetooth File Transfer
> To get the best speed and results when transferring files, follow these tips:
>  
> Disconnect smartphones, tablets, and computers from other Bluetooth devices 
> (for example, wireless speakers and headphones).
> Some devices may limit the number of files that can be transferred at a given 
> time, so it may be necessary to transfer files one at a time, rather than in 
> batches.
> Keep the sending and receiving devices as close to each other as possible 
> with a clear line of sight. This maintains the best signal strength that 
> won’t be interrupted by other wireless signals and physical obstacles.
> Close other apps until all files have transferred. Bluetooth does the sending 
> and receiving, but the device needs processing power to write the data to 
> storage.
> Troubleshoot your Bluetooth devices if there are problems with pairing.
> Was this page helpful?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need 
> advice
>  
> I have not purchased one yet, but what about the card reader that is supposed 
> to work with iOS 13 so that you could copy a file to an SD card and put it in 
> the reader that connects via the lightning port on the iPhone.
> Then, use the files app to get it from the card to the iPhone?
>  
> Just a thought.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Anna Dresner
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:32 AM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List  <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need 
> advice
>  
> Hi,
>  
> AirDrop only works between Macs and iDevices, not Windows machines and 
> iDevices. You could use iTunes file sharing. If you need to share files 
> between a PC and an iDevice on a regular basis, it is also supposed to be 
> possible to use a protocol called SMB to connect your PC to your phone so 
> that your phone sees it as a drive. I couldn't figure out how to do this when 
> I was writing my iOS 13 book, but there should be some good instructions out 
> there by now.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner  <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>  
> I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
> information.
> At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which 
> was the request.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Li

RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Sieghard Weitzel]

aster than the Bluetooth 
3.x/4.x maximum rate.

Tips for Bluetooth File Transfer
To get the best speed and results when transferring files, follow these tips:

Disconnect smartphones, tablets, and computers from other Bluetooth devices 
(for example, wireless speakers and headphones).
Some devices may limit the number of files that can be transferred at a given 
time, so it may be necessary to transfer files one at a time, rather than in 
batches.
Keep the sending and receiving devices as close to each other as possible with 
a clear line of sight. This maintains the best signal strength that won’t be 
interrupted by other wireless signals and physical obstacles.
Close other apps until all files have transferred. Bluetooth does the sending 
and receiving, but the device needs processing power to write the data to 
storage.
Troubleshoot your Bluetooth devices if there are problems with pairing.
Was this page helpful?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

I have not purchased one yet, but what about the card reader that is supposed 
to work with iOS 13 so that you could copy a file to an SD card and put it in 
the reader that connects via the lightning port on the iPhone.
Then, use the files app to get it from the card to the iPhone?

Just a thought.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:32 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

Hi,

AirDrop only works between Macs and iDevices, not Windows machines and 
iDevices. You could use iTunes file sharing. If you need to share files between 
a PC and an iDevice on a regular basis, it is also supposed to be possible to 
use a protocol called SMB to connect your PC to your phone so that your phone 
sees it as a drive. I couldn't figure out how to do this when I was writing my 
iOS 13 book, but there should be some good instructions out there by now.

Best,
Anna


On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
information.
At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which was 
the request.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf03891a978440d6847b08d76b8c6ad5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096123136399861=4hysAOjk5rF1%2BQqc3FzjpP4qYLhCMPxZmxU3yUeXwVY%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

AirDrop can work over Bluetooth

https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifewire.com%2Fbluetooth-file-transfer-4147725=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf03891a978440d6847b08d76b8c6ad5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096123136409872=Aa5Ogfb9oHThtc8veyFUnu2vau4EtspN9r%2B8SMt7c%2F4%3D=0>
khb...@gmail.com<mailto:khb...@gmail.com>
303-997-2749

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: need advice

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner




On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg.

RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Anthony Borg]

Thank you for your info. 

Regards 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 17 November 2019 18:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

 

I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
information.

At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which was 
the request.

 

 

Richard

 

 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Keith Bierman
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

 

AirDrop can work over Bluetooth

 

https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725 
<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifewire.com%2Fbluetooth-file-transfer-4147725=02%7C01%7C%7C3e05c3fece1e4fb12e0b08d76b837808%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096084699692947=ZtR4skqzNFH12elQYEiaocZN1W14ujdrnrSGupUBOHA%3D=0>
 

khb...@gmail.com <mailto:khb...@gmail.com>  

303-997-2749

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: need advice

 

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone. 

Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi folks 
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone. 
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


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RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Richard Turner]

I have not purchased one yet, but what about the card reader that is supposed 
to work with iOS 13 so that you could copy a file to an SD card and put it in 
the reader that connects via the lightning port on the iPhone.
Then, use the files app to get it from the card to the iPhone?

Just a thought.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:32 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

Hi,

AirDrop only works between Macs and iDevices, not Windows machines and 
iDevices. You could use iTunes file sharing. If you need to share files between 
a PC and an iDevice on a regular basis, it is also supposed to be possible to 
use a protocol called SMB to connect your PC to your phone so that your phone 
sees it as a drive. I couldn't figure out how to do this when I was writing my 
iOS 13 book, but there should be some good instructions out there by now.

Best,
Anna



On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
information.
At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which was 
the request.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


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Bierman
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

AirDrop can work over Bluetooth

https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifewire.com%2Fbluetooth-file-transfer-4147725=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf03891a978440d6847b08d76b8c6ad5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096123136409872=Aa5Ogfb9oHThtc8veyFUnu2vau4EtspN9r%2B8SMt7c%2F4%3D=0>
khb...@gmail.com<mailto:khb...@gmail.com>
303-997-2749

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On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: need advice

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner





On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone.
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


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Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

AirDrop only works between Macs and iDevices, not Windows machines and 
iDevices. You could use iTunes file sharing. If you need to share files between 
a PC and an iDevice on a regular basis, it is also supposed to be possible to 
use a protocol called SMB to connect your PC to your phone so that your phone 
sees it as a drive. I couldn't figure out how to do this when I was writing my 
iOS 13 book, but there should be some good instructions out there by now.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
> information.
> At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which 
> was the request.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
>  Live long and prosper
>  
>  
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Keith Bierman
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need 
> advice
>  
> AirDrop can work over Bluetooth
>  
> https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725 
> <https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifewire.com%2Fbluetooth-file-transfer-4147725=02%7C01%7C%7C3e05c3fece1e4fb12e0b08d76b837808%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096084699692947=ZtR4skqzNFH12elQYEiaocZN1W14ujdrnrSGupUBOHA%3D=0>
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> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly  <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
> your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
> Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
> Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
> the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
> cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your 
> iDevice. I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud 
> service across all the apps I use.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf 
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: need advice
>  
> I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
> Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone 
> and save it where you want"
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg  <mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks 
> I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
> iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
> iphone. 
> Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match? 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Anthony 
> 
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RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Richard Turner]

I followed that link with three different browsers and found no useful 
information.
At least, nothing about transferring from his computer to the phone, which was 
the request.


Richard

 Live long and prosper


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com/>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

AirDrop can work over Bluetooth

https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifewire.com%2Fbluetooth-file-transfer-4147725=02%7C01%7C%7C3e05c3fece1e4fb12e0b08d76b837808%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637096084699692947=ZtR4skqzNFH12elQYEiaocZN1W14ujdrnrSGupUBOHA%3D=0>
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303-997-2749

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On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: need advice

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner




On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone.
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


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Re: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Keith Bierman]

AirDrop can work over Bluetooth

https://www.lifewire.com/bluetooth-file-transfer-4147725

khb...@gmail.com 
303-997-2749

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
> your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
> Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
> Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
> the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
> cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your 
> iDevice. I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud 
> service across all the apps I use.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: need advice
>  
> I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
> Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone 
> and save it where you want"
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
> Wagner
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks 
> I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
> iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
> iphone. 
> Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match? 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Anthony 
> 
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RE: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Richard Turner]

Yes, Dropbox, or OneDrive if you have a Microsoft 365 subscription especially; 
but if you have a Microsoft account you can get a limited amount of OneDrive 
space for free as well.
With the Microsoft 365 subscription you get one terabyte of OneDrive storage.

Richard

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

Alan Lemly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: need advice

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg 
mailto:anthonyborg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone.
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


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Transferring files between computer and iDevice was RE: need advice

[Alan Lemly]

I'm with Richard that I don't believe it's possible to transfer files between 
your computer and your iDevice using Bluetooth. Another alternative to 
Richard's suggestion of emailing the file as an attachment is to open a free 
Dropbox account. With Dropbox installed on your computer, any files placed in 
the Dropbox folder on your local computer are automatically uploaded to the 
cloud and can be accessed with the very accessible Dropbox app on your iDevice. 
I've also found Dropbox to be the most widely supported cloud service across 
all the apps I use.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 8:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: need advice

 

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone. 

Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"

 

 

 

Richard

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On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:

Hi folks 
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone. 
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


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Re: need advice

[Richard Turner]

I'm not aware of a way to transfer files via bluetooth to an iPhone.
Why not email the file to yourself, and open the attachment on your iPhone and 
save it where you want"




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On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:37 AM, Anthony Borg  wrote:

Hi folks
I tried to transfer a file via bluetooth from my dell lapto to the my
iphone. But when I turned on both bluetooths the laptop couldn't find the
iphone.
Is that because I'm using 2 different products and they don't match?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


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RE: need advice

[Carolyn]

I find that if it asks for pass code and has that keypad there, I just press 
Home Button again on my SE and usually get to Home Page - a little easier than 
six numbers. 

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Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 3:38 PM
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Subject: RE: need advice

If you go to turn off the passcode, Apple will come up and strongly urge you 
not to do this, predicting all sorts of dire things, and it will tell you that 
all the credit cards you have stored in the phone will be deleted from the 
phone, so if you buy something, you have to put the credit card info in. This 
is for security reasons, but just be aware. You can certainly turn off the 
passcode, and I have been sorely tempted to do just that when it keeps coming 
up and asking for it even though I have touch ID enabled. Anyway, good luck.

Susie



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Rob Armstrong
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

I have not updated to iOS 13, so I don't know if things have changed.

This is based on the last version of iOS 12.

Go to Settings.
Double-tap Touch ID and Passcode.

You have to enter your Passcode before you can continue to see the next screen.
The first heading is "Use touch ID for".
Turn off any of the items that are on.

The next heading is "FINGERPRINTS".
There will be a button like "Finger 1" for each fingerprint you have created.  
You can double-tap the button.  Then you will find a button to delete the 
fingerprint.

On the next page of Touch ID and Passcode settings, you will find entries for:
Turn Passcode off
Require Passcode

Hope this helps.

Rob
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Borg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: need advice

Hi list
Can you please tell me if there is a way how to disable the finger ID and the 
number code of the iphone? 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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RE: need advice

[Robert Wright]

Suzie you should be able to go to pass code settings and uncheck any financial 
items.

**
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From: Susie Stageberg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

If you go to turn off the passcode, Apple will come up and strongly urge you 
not to do this, predicting all sorts of dire things, and it will tell you that 
all the credit cards you have stored in the phone will be deleted from the 
phone, so if you buy something, you have to put the credit card info in. This 
is for security reasons, but just be aware. You can certainly turn off the 
passcode, and I have been sorely tempted to do just that when it keeps coming 
up and asking for it even though I have touch ID enabled. Anyway, good luck.

Susie



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Rob Armstrong
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

I have not updated to iOS 13, so I don't know if things have changed.

This is based on the last version of iOS 12.

Go to Settings.
Double-tap Touch ID and Passcode.

You have to enter your Passcode before you can continue to see the next screen.
The first heading is "Use touch ID for".
Turn off any of the items that are on.

The next heading is "FINGERPRINTS".
There will be a button like "Finger 1" for each fingerprint you have created.  
You can double-tap the button.  Then you will find a button to delete the 
fingerprint.

On the next page of Touch ID and Passcode settings, you will find entries for:
Turn Passcode off
Require Passcode

Hope this helps.

Rob
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Anthony Borg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: need advice

Hi list
Can you please tell me if there is a way how to disable the finger ID and the 
number code of the iphone? 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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RE: need advice

[Susie Stageberg]

If you go to turn off the passcode, Apple will come up and strongly urge you 
not to do this, predicting all sorts of dire things, and it will tell you that 
all the credit cards you have stored in the phone will be deleted from the 
phone, so if you buy something, you have to put the credit card info in. This 
is for security reasons, but just be aware. You can certainly turn off the 
passcode, and I have been sorely tempted to do just that when it keeps coming 
up and asking for it even though I have touch ID enabled. Anyway, good luck.

Susie



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rob Armstrong
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2019 2:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: need advice

I have not updated to iOS 13, so I don't know if things have changed.

This is based on the last version of iOS 12.

Go to Settings.
Double-tap Touch ID and Passcode.

You have to enter your Passcode before you can continue to see the next screen.
The first heading is "Use touch ID for".
Turn off any of the items that are on.

The next heading is "FINGERPRINTS".
There will be a button like "Finger 1" for each fingerprint you have created.  
You can double-tap the button.  Then you will find a button to delete the 
fingerprint.

On the next page of Touch ID and Passcode settings, you will find entries for:
Turn Passcode off
Require Passcode

Hope this helps.

Rob
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Anthony Borg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: need advice

Hi list
Can you please tell me if there is a way how to disable the finger ID and the 
number code of the iphone? 
Thanks in advance
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RE: need advice

[Rob Armstrong]

I have not updated to iOS 13, so I don't know if things have changed.

This is based on the last version of iOS 12.

Go to Settings.
Double-tap Touch ID and Passcode.

You have to enter your Passcode before you can continue to see the next screen.
The first heading is "Use touch ID for".
Turn off any of the items that are on.

The next heading is "FINGERPRINTS".
There will be a button like "Finger 1" for each fingerprint you have created.  
You can double-tap the button.  Then you will find a button to delete the 
fingerprint.

On the next page of Touch ID and Passcode settings, you will find entries for:
Turn Passcode off
Require Passcode

Hope this helps.

Rob
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Anthony Borg
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Anthony Borg 
Subject: need advice

Hi list
Can you please tell me if there is a way how to disable the finger ID and the 
number code of the iphone? 
Thanks in advance
Anthony 

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Re: need advice

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Antony,

You can go into Touch ID and Passcode and disable your passcode. If you do, 
though, you won't be able to use Apple Pay, and the information on your phone 
will be available to an-one who picks it up.

Best,
Anna




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> Thanks in advance 
> Anthony 
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RE: Need advice on best telecom management strategy when vacationing in the Netherlands and Germany for three weeks from US

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kevin,

For the most part roaming charges in EU countries have been abolished so if you 
fly first into Germany you can get a plan there and ask if this will work when 
you are in Holland or vice versa.
My mother was just in Germany for a bit over 3 weeks and she bought a plan from 
the german Telecom, Vodafone is also strong and I would stick with those two 
for best coverage and LTE. Best thing is to go to a Vodafone or German Telecom 
store and askk them to advise you what is best.

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Gibbs
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need advice on best telecom management strategy when vacationing in 
the Netherlands and Germany for three weeks from US

Guys,

Need info on best option for telecom management when traveling from the US to 
the Netherlands and Germany.  My wife and I have iPhones which are unlocked, to 
the best of our knowledge.  Ideally, we need voice and data at a reasonable 
cost in Holland and Germany for three weeks.  

As I see it, our options are:

1.  Buy two local SIMM cards at Amsterdam airport with a large enough data 
allowance to send SMS, make local phone calls, upload photos to FB/Instagram 
and get directions here and there while traveling.  

2.  Get two data only cards from a purveyor like Gig Sky and use Skype for the 
voice/SMS component.  Need info on just how or whether one can forward an 
iPhone to a Skype number.  May not want to get any unwanted messages from 
people in the States because it’s election silly season.  On the other hand, 
would want to get message from home if house was in trouble while gone.  
decisions, decisions.  

3.  By a My Fi box, also with a local SIMM, and tether our phones to that.  
Turn Cellular Data off on phones and kill all push notifications that would 
otherwise be active in Wi-Fi environments to prevent unnecessary data 
consumption.   Again, use Skype or Google Voice or something else to have voice 
and SMS capabilities without buying an international voice and data plan from 
AT, which I assume is cost prohibitive in even the best case.  

Sorry this is such a long message.  Trying to imagine all the scenarios from 
which I have to choose.Have to make a decision fairly soon.  Hope one of 
you will answer.

Please CC reply to author in case I don’t get the chance to log into Google 
Groups to follow this message.  My preferences are set to No Mail because I 
visit this list so infrequently.  

Thanks in advance,
Kevin

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Re: Need advice on best telecom management strategy when vacationing in the Netherlands and Germany for three weeks from US

[Kevin Gibbs]

I just want to make clear that I don't want to  change my primary US cell 
provider from AT  So, not interested in switching to, say, T Mobile for 
the purposes of buying a international voice and data plan for this 
European vacation.

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RE: Need advice on twitter promotional messages

[M. Taylor]

Hello Tara,

Somewhere in your Twitter account settings, which you may access from either 
within the Twitter app or from a web browser, you can select to disable Twitter 
recommendations.  It may take a bit of digging, but, the option is definitely 
there.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TaraPrakash
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need advice on twitter promotional messages

Dear all.
I use twitter only on iphone and very sparingly. I feel assaulted several times 
by Twitter sending messages like one below my mail. I follow CNN Msnbc, and 
some other non-conservative media groups and journalists. I used to follow Fox 
but couldn't tolerate them for long and I do not follow them now. Yet, 
everytime Twitter sends me this recommendations, they send some atrocious 
suggestions from my perspective. If they are profiling me, they shold know by 
now that I do not like to follow bigotry hypocrisy. Is there a way  to disable 
these emails which suggestions? I cannot completely block twitter emails as 
sometimes they contain information about notifications which I am interested in.
Please let me know if something can be done about this.
Will appreciate your suggestions.

TP


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