Re: Tap Tap See

2018-03-03 Thread Donna
Hi Jewel

TapTap see had an update on Feb. 23rd. & the version is 3.1.3. Maybe the 
problems you are having is a rresult of the recent update or you may need to 
update the app. My favorite apps for surrounding photos are CamFind & Seeing 
AI. 

Donna

> On Mar 2, 2018, at 11:14 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings when 
> out in the garden.
> However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few problems.  4 
> of the 6 photos that I 
> took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had turned on mobile:  and 
> the two that I took 
> when in the house, both came back as being "dark".
> I checked and auto flash is "on".
> I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound 
> likely?  What is the most 
> recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it current, what do you 
> suggest as an 
> alternative?
> 
>   Jewel 
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Re: Tap Tap See

2018-03-02 Thread Penny Reeder
Of course, you're right! Seeing AI!
Thanks for catching my responding-to-e-mail-too-late-at-night mistake!
Penny

On 3/3/18, Richard  wrote:
> Are you sure about that name?
> It doesn't sound right.
>
> Rick
> - Original Message -
> From: "Penny Reeder" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
>
>
>> My version of Tap Tap See says it's Version #313. You can find out by
>> tapping on "About." As far as I know my version of TTS is still
>> working well. I don't use it often, but when I do, it seems to work
>> quite well.
>>
>> Today, however, I used AI Squared for the first time to find and read
>> a bar code -- and the accompanying information about the product, and
>> I was amazed at how well it worked!
>>
>> HTH,
>> Penny
>>
>> On 3/2/18, Jewel  wrote:
>>> TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings
>>> when
>>> out in the garden.
>>> However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few
>>> problems.
>>> 4 of the 6 photos that I
>>> took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had turned on mobile:
>>> and the two that I took
>>> when in the house, both came back as being "dark".
>>> I checked and auto flash is "on".
>>> I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound
>>> likely?  What is the most
>>> recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it current, what
>>> do
>>> you suggest as an
>>> alternative?
>>>
>>>Jewel
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Re: Tap Tap See

2018-03-02 Thread Richard

Are you sure about that name?
It doesn't sound right.

Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Penny Reeder" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See



My version of Tap Tap See says it's Version #313. You can find out by
tapping on "About." As far as I know my version of TTS is still
working well. I don't use it often, but when I do, it seems to work
quite well.

Today, however, I used AI Squared for the first time to find and read
a bar code -- and the accompanying information about the product, and
I was amazed at how well it worked!

HTH,
Penny

On 3/2/18, Jewel  wrote:
TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings 
when

out in the garden.
However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few 
problems.

4 of the 6 photos that I
took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had turned on mobile:
and the two that I took
when in the house, both came back as being "dark".
I checked and auto flash is "on".
I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound
likely?  What is the most
recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it current, what do
you suggest as an
alternative?

   Jewel

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Re: Tap Tap See

2018-03-02 Thread Richard

Hi Jewel,
Tap Tap See is still being supported, the current version as of 2/25/2018, 
is 3.1.3.

A very good alternative is Microsoft Seeing AI.

HTH,
Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Jewel" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:14 PM
Subject: Tap Tap See


TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings when 
out in the garden.
However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few problems. 
4 of the 6 photos that I
took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had turned on mobile: 
and the two that I took

when in the house, both came back as being "dark".
I checked and auto flash is "on".
I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound 
likely?  What is the most
recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it current, what do 
you suggest as an

alternative?

  Jewel

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Re: Tap Tap See

2018-03-02 Thread Penny Reeder
My version of Tap Tap See says it's Version #313. You can find out by
tapping on "About." As far as I know my version of TTS is still
working well. I don't use it often, but when I do, it seems to work
quite well.

Today, however, I used AI Squared for the first time to find and read
a bar code -- and the accompanying information about the product, and
I was amazed at how well it worked!

HTH,
Penny

On 3/2/18, Jewel  wrote:
> TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings when
> out in the garden.
> However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few problems.
> 4 of the 6 photos that I
> took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had turned on mobile:
> and the two that I took
> when in the house, both came back as being "dark".
> I checked and auto flash is "on".
> I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound
> likely?  What is the most
> recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it current, what do
> you suggest as an
> alternative?
>
>Jewel
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RE: Tap Tap See

2018-03-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I used it just the other day on the thermostat for my heated tile kitchen floor 
and it worked as well as it always has.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 8:14 PM
To: nz_vi_iphone_us...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tap Tap See

TTS is my favourite app for identifying food cans and my surroundings when out 
in the garden.
However, when I used it today, it seemd to be having quite a few problems.  4 
of the 6 photos that I took when out in the front yard failed to send:  I had 
turned on mobile:  and the two that I took when in the house, both came back as 
being "dark".
I checked and auto flash is "on".
I am not sure of the version of TTS that I have;  does version 33 sound likely? 
 What is the most recent version, and if the developers are not keeping it 
current, what do you suggest as an alternative?

   Jewel 

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RE: Tap tap see

2016-06-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi Deidre,

So it can access your photos you want to recognize using Tap Tap C

Ron & Danvers



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Deidre Muccio
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 8:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap tap see

If it doesn't save it and Photos then why does it ask you for access to photos 
when you hit on the library button?

Deidre


> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
> I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about is 
> the description.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:53 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Tap tap see
> 
> And, now suddenly, in tap tap see the picture is not within sight. I get my 
> verbal description but no one is able to see an image. This never was the 
> case before. I made my library available to photos but the photos aren't 
> showing there either.
> 
> Deidre
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Re: Tap tap see

2016-06-04 Thread Deidre Muccio
That's pretty remarkable. I should try that sometime. Also I like your tagline 
the quote from Elizabeth Taylor.

Deidre


> On Jun 4, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It asks for permission to access your photos in case you have a photo you 
> want it to try and describe. It isn't for saving photos.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure  
> they are going to have some pretty  annoying virtues." – Elizabeth Taylor
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Funny. Actually I asked someone to look at some of the first photos I took 
>> just to see if the description fit their idea of what they were looking at. 
>> Also I don't want to really share photos that might not be very good. So 
>> that's why I wish that they were visible to people who could see. I'm 
>> laughing.
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
>>> I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about 
>>> is the description.
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:53 PM
>>> To: Viphone 
>>> Subject: Tap tap see
>>> 
>>> And, now suddenly, in tap tap see the picture is not within sight. I get my 
>>> verbal description but no one is able to see an image. This never was the 
>>> case before. I made my library available to photos but the photos aren't 
>>> showing there either.
>>> 
>>> Deidre
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Re: Tap tap see

2016-06-04 Thread Richard Turner

It asks for permission to access your photos in case you have a photo you want 
it to try and describe. It isn't for saving photos.
HTH,
Richard


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> On Jun 4, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
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> Funny. Actually I asked someone to look at some of the first photos I took 
> just to see if the description fit their idea of what they were looking at. 
> Also I don't want to really share photos that might not be very good. So 
> that's why I wish that they were visible to people who could see. I'm 
> laughing.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
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>> TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
>> I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about 
>> is the description.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
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>> 
>> And, now suddenly, in tap tap see the picture is not within sight. I get my 
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Re: Tap tap see

2016-06-04 Thread Deidre Muccio
If it doesn't save it and Photos then why does it ask you for access to photos 
when you hit on the library button?

Deidre


> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Richard Turner  
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> TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
> I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about is 
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> Richard
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> And, now suddenly, in tap tap see the picture is not within sight. I get my 
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Re: Tap tap see

2016-06-04 Thread Deidre Muccio
Funny. Actually I asked someone to look at some of the first photos I took just 
to see if the description fit their idea of what they were looking at. Also I 
don't want to really share photos that might not be very good. So that's why I 
wish that they were visible to people who could see. I'm laughing.

Deidre


> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:06 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
> I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about is 
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> Richard
> 
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> Subject: Tap tap see
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RE: Tap tap see

2016-06-04 Thread Richard Turner
TapTapSee does not save the pictures in your photos.
I haven't asked anyone sighted to look for pictures since all I care about is 
the description.

Richard


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Deidre Muccio
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2016 4:53 PM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Tap tap see

And, now suddenly, in tap tap see the picture is not within sight. I get my 
verbal description but no one is able to see an image. This never was the case 
before. I made my library available to photos but the photos aren't showing 
there either.

Deidre

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RE: [Bulk] Re: Tap Tap See

2015-11-15 Thread Reg Sullivan
Yes, I started receiving the "trouble sending immage"  message today.


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Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Tap Tap See

Hi Linda,
Yes, I am having trouble with this over here also. Tap Tap See reports
trouble sending image.



On 11/15/15, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
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>
>
>
> Is anyone else having problems with Tap Tap See? Every time I take a
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-11-15 Thread Feliciano Godoy
Hi, I'm also getting this area. I tried turning off Wi-Fi and get this error  
on cellular data as well. I also reported the problem to tap tap see, you can 
do so by going to the app on there about us there is a contact us link that 
will open up an email message.

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> On Nov 15, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Shai  wrote:
> 
> Hi Linda,
> Yes, I am having trouble with this over here also. Tap Tap See reports
> trouble sending image.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/15/15, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is anyone else having problems with Tap Tap See? Every time I take a
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-11-15 Thread Shai
Hi Linda,
Yes, I am having trouble with this over here also. Tap Tap See reports
trouble sending image.



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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-15 Thread BHAVESH PATEL
The version (3.2) is already out with fix...

On 4/15/15, Robert Doc wright  wrote:
> A friend of mine wrote the developers of Taptapsy and their response is that
>
> they are working with Apple to get it fixed.
> - Original Message -
> From: "brian albriton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
>
>
> I have been consistantly getting picture failed as well.
>
>
>
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Kevin White  wrote:
>>
>> I too have noticed this problem. I also noticed it in the Camfind app as
>> well, so am wondering if there is some other bug.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>
>> Of Scott Berry
>> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56 PM
>> To: Vi Phone
>> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
>>
>> Yes I also noticed this in IOS 8.2 as well.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 5, I also got an error when trying to use
>>> tap tap see.
>>> It takes the picture just fine, it just has a hard time sending it.
>>> The error said, Picture failed, trouble sending image.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone
>>>> 5s's. We tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an
>>>> error message. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Lynda
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-15 Thread Robert Doc wright
A friend of mine wrote the developers of Taptapsy and their response is that 
they are working with Apple to get it fixed.
- Original Message - 
From: "brian albriton" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See


I have been consistantly getting picture failed as well.




On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Kevin White  wrote:

I too have noticed this problem. I also noticed it in the Camfind app as 
well, so am wondering if there is some other bug.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Scott Berry

Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56 PM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See

Yes I also noticed this in IOS 8.2 as well.



On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 5, I also got an error when trying to use 
tap tap see.

It takes the picture just fine, it just has a hard time sending it.
The error said, Picture failed, trouble sending image.

Chris


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham  
wrote:


I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone
5s's. We tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an
error message. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?

Thank you,

Lynda

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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-14 Thread Steve
Aliya,

They submitted a fix to Apple a week ago; it is still awaiting their approval 
before it is rolled out as an update.  
Just check your updates in the app store.

- Original Message - 
From: Aliya Nurullina 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Cc: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See


Hi everyone. I don't have any TapTapSee credits at the moment. But in my 
iPhone 5S running iOS 8.3 CamFind is not working too. I mean after 
taking a photo it after a couple of second of waiting says trouble 
sending image. But i hope it doesn't mean that the amazing service is 
stopped. It probably is due to problem with their server or the new iOS 
update. Anyway there is no any information about stopping the service on 
their Twitter. So we just have to provide them feedback about it.

Have a nice day.
Aliya

10.04.2015 9:11, Sieghard Weitzel пишет:
> I had the same problem with Camfind. Maybe they have stopped their service, 
> Camfind and Tap Tap See after all are from the same developer. I haven't done 
> an app store search yet to see if the appsare still in the app store. Maybe 
> they have gone the way of the Track This app/service.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Annie Skov Nielsen
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
>
> Hi.
>
> I noticed it a while back, I am afraid it is not because of IOS 8.3, maybe 
> the service has stopped working.
>
> Best regards Annie.
>
>> Den 10/04/2015 kl. 02.18 skrev Lynda Ingraham:
>>
>> I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone 5s's. We
>> tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an error message. Has
>> anyone else experienced the same problem?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Lynda
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-14 Thread brian albriton
I have been consistantly getting picture failed as well. 



> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:33 PM, Kevin White  wrote:
> 
> I too have noticed this problem. I also noticed it in the Camfind app as 
> well, so am wondering if there is some other bug. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Berry
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56 PM
> To: Vi Phone
> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
> 
> Yes I also noticed this in IOS 8.2 as well.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 5, I also got an error when trying to use tap 
>> tap see.
>> It takes the picture just fine, it just has a hard time sending it.
>> The error said, Picture failed, trouble sending image.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone 
>>> 5s's. We tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an 
>>> error message. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Lynda
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-14 Thread SCOTT VAN GORP
This is a known issue with both apps. The developer post tweets over the 
weekend saying that an update has been submitted to Apple and is waiting 
approval.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2015, at 8:41 PM, Kevin White  wrote:
> 
> I too have noticed this problem. I also noticed it in the Camfind app as 
> well, so am wondering if there is some other bug. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Berry
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56 PM
> To: Vi Phone
> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
> 
> Yes I also noticed this in IOS 8.2 as well.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 5, I also got an error when trying to use tap 
>> tap see.
>> It takes the picture just fine, it just has a hard time sending it.
>> The error said, Picture failed, trouble sending image.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone 
>>> 5s's. We tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an 
>>> error message. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Lynda
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RE: Tap Tap See

2015-04-13 Thread Kevin White
I too have noticed this problem. I also noticed it in the Camfind app as well, 
so am wondering if there is some other bug. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 8:56 PM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See

Yes I also noticed this in IOS 8.2 as well.


> On Apr 9, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Running iOS 8.3 on an iPhone 5, I also got an error when trying to use tap 
> tap see.
> It takes the picture just fine, it just has a hard time sending it.
> The error said, Picture failed, trouble sending image.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Lynda Ingraham  wrote:
>> 
>> I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone 
>> 5s's. We tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an 
>> error message. Has anyone else experienced the same problem?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Lynda
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-13 Thread Aliya Nurullina
Hi everyone. I don't have any TapTapSee credits at the moment. But in my 
iPhone 5S running iOS 8.3 CamFind is not working too. I mean after 
taking a photo it after a couple of second of waiting says trouble 
sending image. But i hope it doesn't mean that the amazing service is 
stopped. It probably is due to problem with their server or the new iOS 
update. Anyway there is no any information about stopping the service on 
their Twitter. So we just have to provide them feedback about it.


Have a nice day.
Aliya

10.04.2015 9:11, Sieghard Weitzel пишет:

I had the same problem with Camfind. Maybe they have stopped their service, 
Camfind and Tap Tap See after all are from the same developer. I haven't done 
an app store search yet to see if the appsare still in the app store. Maybe 
they have gone the way of the Track This app/service.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi.

I noticed it a while back, I am afraid it is not because of IOS 8.3, maybe the 
service has stopped working.

Best regards Annie.
   

Den 10/04/2015 kl. 02.18 skrev Lynda Ingraham:

I updated to IOS 8.3 yesterday. My husband and I both have Iphone 5s's. We
tried on both phones to use Tap Tap See and received an error message. Has
anyone else experienced the same problem?

Thank you,

Lynda

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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-11 Thread Jonathan Mosen
TapTapSee tweeted that they know there's an issue. They submitted a fix over a 
week ago to Apple who has yet to approve it.
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> On 12/04/2015, at 5:58 am, Steve  wrote:
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> Several of us are having issues with Tap-Tap-See saying it is not able to 
> send an image after upgrading to IOS 8.3
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> Hello. I suggest you give it another try. I just used that app and it 
> describe the picture just fine.
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Re: Tap Tap See

2015-04-11 Thread Steve
Several of us are having issues with Tap-Tap-See saying it is not able to send 
an image after upgrading to IOS 8.3
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Hello. I suggest you give it another try. I just used that app and it describe 
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RE: Tap tap see question

2014-10-26 Thread Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
It did give me the name of the product eventually, but I seemed to have a 
harder time locating the barcode than with Red Laser.

Pam



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I tried it and it only gave me a number. Not very useful if not attached to the 
product description.
Tom Frank
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On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Hi, I just updated Tap Tap See on my IPhone 4s this morning.  In the App Store, 
under what's New, it stated that Tap Tap See now has bar code scanning without 
using the camera.  I tried it and couldn't find how to do this.  Does anyone 
else out here have this problem?  Thanks, Andy and Shubert
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Re: Tap tap see question

2014-10-25 Thread Tom Frank
I tried it and it only gave me a number. Not very useful if not attached to the 
product description.
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> On Oct 22, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, I just updated Tap Tap See on my IPhone 4s this morning.  In the App 
> Store, under what’s New, it stated that Tap Tap See now has bar code scanning 
> without using the camera.  I tried it and couldn’t find how to do this.  Does 
> anyone else out here have this problem?  Thanks, Andy and Shubert
> Andrew J. LaPointe
> Co-Chairman
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RE: tap tap see

2014-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
One should also keep in mind that Tap Tap See will use crowd sourcing which 
means your pictures will go out to real people who will provide an answer. This 
is just something to keep in mind for privacy reasons.

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It is great for identifying many things.  Just test it out around your house on 
things you need to identify. I agree that it probably won't read text.  On a 
humorous side, a friend took her picture and it said "woman with gray hair."  
So don't take a picture of your self unless you really want to hear the truth.  
(smile)  It does take some practice and I still make mistakes.  I pay for a 
monthly subscription so I don't worry when I take two pictures when I only 
meant to take one.  I think you get 20 free pictures and then you will get a 
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>
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>   Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: tap tap see
>
>
>   Hi Andy,
>
>   Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.
>
>   So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for 
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Re: tap tap see

2014-06-01 Thread Marianne Denning
It is great for identifying many things.  Just test it out around your
house on things you need to identify. I agree that it probably won't
read text.  On a humorous side, a friend took her picture and it said
"woman with gray hair."  So don't take a picture of your self unless
you really want to hear the truth.  (smile)  It does take some
practice and I still make mistakes.  I pay for a monthly subscription
so I don't worry when I take two pictures when I only meant to take
one.  I think you get 20 free pictures and then you will get a prompt
to purchase.  There are different packages of pictures you can
purchase.

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> As long as the lable is clear.  I don't think you would use it for reading
> directions.  For something of this nature I have used facetime.
> 
> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning
> start?
>
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Lori Dent
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: tap tap see
>
>
>   Hi Andy,
>
>   Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.
>
>   So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for example
> shampoo bottles and bathroom products and  CD's and more?
>   Take care.
>
>   Lori and the Gipper
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Re: tap tap see

2014-06-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
As long as the lable is clear.  I don't think you would use it for reading 
directions.  For something of this nature I have used facetime. 

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lori Dent 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:08 PM
  Subject: Re: tap tap see


  Hi Andy,

  Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.

  So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for example 
shampoo bottles and bathroom products and  CD's and more?
  Take care.

  Lori and the Gipper
  receits ,

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Re: tap tap see

2014-06-01 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I have used it to determine the color of clothing or what flavor of pop tart I 
had .

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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  Subject: tap tap see


  Hi all,

  I just got done downloading tap tap see earlier tonight. So  what types of 
things can I  do with tap tap see? Take care.

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Re: tap tap see

2014-05-31 Thread Dennis Long
I would test products. You may have a trial period or so many free picks I 
am not sure.



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On June 1, 2014 12:24:23 AM "Andy Baracco"  wrote:


Yes! Many things. Just try it out.

Andy

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Hi Andy,

Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.

So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for example 
shampoo bottles and bathroom products and  CD's and more?

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Re: tap tap see

2014-05-31 Thread Andy Baracco
Yes! Many things. Just try it out.

Andy

From: Lori Dent 
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Hi Andy,

Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.

So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for example 
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Take care.

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Re: tap tap see

2014-05-31 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Andy,

Thanks for answering my question. I think I will love tap tap see.

So in addition to reading food products, can tap tap see read for example 
shampoo bottles and bathroom products and  CD's and more?
Take care.

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Re: tap tap see

2014-05-31 Thread Andy Baracco
You take pictures of items that you want recognized, like a can of soup, and it 
will read the label.

Andy

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Re: Tap Tap See

2014-05-30 Thread Marianne Denning
I pay a set amount for 3 months of Tap Tap See.  I just don't want to
mess around.  I want it and I want it now. I ask for patience but I
qualify it by saying give it to me now. That is a decision each of
us has to make.  It is worth the money so I can take, retake, and
retake a picture without worrying about the cost.

On 5/30/14, Paul and Paula Jordan  wrote:
> Hi.  I have tap tap see but also use camfind.  Tap Tap See charges per
> picture and is very accurate for colors, identifying canned goods, and a
> lot
> of other stuff.  I sometimes use camfind first since it's free, and if I
> get
> uncertain results I go to tap tap see.  Terri, if you'd like you can write
> me privately and I'll explain more.
> God bless!
> Paula and Babe
>
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> Subject: Tap Tap See
>
> Hi.  I went to the Itunes app store to locate the tap tap see app.
> There are 184 results.  I need to know which app to download.  Thanks.
>
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RE: Tap Tap See

2014-05-30 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi.  I have tap tap see but also use camfind.  Tap Tap See charges per
picture and is very accurate for colors, identifying canned goods, and a lot
of other stuff.  I sometimes use camfind first since it's free, and if I get
uncertain results I go to tap tap see.  Terri, if you'd like you can write
me privately and I'll explain more. 
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Of Terri Elliott
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tap Tap See

Hi.  I went to the Itunes app store to locate the tap tap see app.  
There are 184 results.  I need to know which app to download.  Thanks.

Terri

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Re: Tap Tap See

2014-05-30 Thread Marianne Denning
Another app like Tap Tap See that people seem to like is camfind.  I
have never tried it so I can't recommend it but many people on this
list love it.

On 5/30/14, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/taptapsee-blind-visually-impaired/id567635020?mt=8
>
> HtH,
> Teresa
>
> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
>
> On May 30, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Terri,
>>
>> I assume you type in Tap Tap See and then look at the results below
>> without
>> double tapping on the "Search" button at the bottom right of the
>> keyboard.
>> If I type in "Tap Tap See" with spaces and press Search I get 17 results
>> and
>> it's very obvious that the first one is the correct one, it says "Tap Tap
>> See, Blind and Visually Impaired Camera". The developer is "Image
>> Searcher".
>> It's much easier and I find also more accurate not to use the suggested
>> search results list and to type your search term and then use the Search
>> button.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Terri Elliott
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:33 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Tap Tap See
>>
>> Hi.  I went to the Itunes app store to locate the tap tap see app.
>> There are 184 results.  I need to know which app to download.  Thanks.
>>
>> Terri
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Re: Tap Tap See

2014-05-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/taptapsee-blind-visually-impaired/id567635020?mt=8

HtH,
Teresa

"The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham

On May 30, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Terri,
> 
> I assume you type in Tap Tap See and then look at the results below without
> double tapping on the "Search" button at the bottom right of the keyboard.
> If I type in "Tap Tap See" with spaces and press Search I get 17 results and
> it's very obvious that the first one is the correct one, it says "Tap Tap
> See, Blind and Visually Impaired Camera". The developer is "Image Searcher".
> It's much easier and I find also more accurate not to use the suggested
> search results list and to type your search term and then use the Search
> button.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Terri Elliott
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Tap Tap See
> 
> Hi.  I went to the Itunes app store to locate the tap tap see app.  
> There are 184 results.  I need to know which app to download.  Thanks.
> 
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RE: Tap Tap See

2014-05-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Terri,

I assume you type in Tap Tap See and then look at the results below without
double tapping on the "Search" button at the bottom right of the keyboard.
If I type in "Tap Tap See" with spaces and press Search I get 17 results and
it's very obvious that the first one is the correct one, it says "Tap Tap
See, Blind and Visually Impaired Camera". The developer is "Image Searcher".
It's much easier and I find also more accurate not to use the suggested
search results list and to type your search term and then use the Search
button.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi.  I went to the Itunes app store to locate the tap tap see app.  
There are 184 results.  I need to know which app to download.  Thanks.

Terri

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RE: tap tap see

2014-04-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Tap Tap See uses a pay per use model, you can buy 50 pictures for $4.99, 100 
pictures for $7.99 or for $9.99 a month you get unlimited pictures/use.

 

You can take pictures of items and receive an answer as to what they are. Of 
course if you take a picture of a can of peeches and you happen to take a 
picture of an area of the can which has no identifiable information you might 
just get an answer like “Tin can” or “Canned food” which isn’t very helpful, 
but it still costs you a picture.

 

Nonetheless Tap Tap See is still very useful and you can use other free apps 
like Camfind or Talking Goggles and try to identify your product first with 
them. In many cases they do just as good a job.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Claudia
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: tap tap see

 

How much does this application cost now, and what can one do with it?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TapTapSee
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: tap tap see

 

Hi Beth,

 

Thank you for your support! We truly appreciate it! Please be sure to leave us 
a review in the App Store.

 

Best Wishes,

TapTapSee

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:01:40 PM UTC-8, Beth G wrote:

Hi,
I really like TapTapSee, and hope it stays  around. I think it is worth paying 
for

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:02 PM, "Pablo Morales"  > wrote:

Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.

As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app that 
can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has been 
taken with the camera?

Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range of 
posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good that 
when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a good 
match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the picture, can 
give suggestions.

-- Original Message - .

From: TapTapSee   

To: vip...@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: tap tap see

 

Hi Haya, 

 

I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
Unfortunately, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to 
change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but 
sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid 
subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to do a one 
time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is applied with 
every image that we process.

 

Best Wishes,

TapTapSee Team

On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote: 

TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she is), 
or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather than 
making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app that you 
have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist" mailto:kay.ma...@gmail.com> > wrote

Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap See.  
Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune cookie.  Yes, I 
really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said so out comes Tap 
Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box it read my fortune.  
Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me happy but I wanted to let 
you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  
You've made this people happy.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.ma...@gmail.com <mailto:kay.ma...@gmail.com> 

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RE: tap tap see

2014-04-16 Thread Claudia
How much does this application cost now, and what can one do with it?

Thanks.

 

Claudia

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TapTapSee
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: tap tap see

 

Hi Beth,

 

Thank you for your support! We truly appreciate it! Please be sure to leave us 
a review in the App Store.

 

Best Wishes,

TapTapSee

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:01:40 PM UTC-8, Beth G wrote:

Hi,
I really like TapTapSee, and hope it stays  around. I think it is worth paying 
for

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:02 PM, "Pablo Morales"  > wrote:

Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.

As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app that 
can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has been 
taken with the camera?

Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range of 
posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good that 
when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a good 
match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the picture, can 
give suggestions.

-- Original Message - .

From: TapTapSee   

To: vip...@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM

Subject: Re: tap tap see

 

Hi Haya, 

 

I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
Unfortunately, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to 
change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but 
sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid 
subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to do a one 
time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is applied with 
every image that we process.

 

Best Wishes,

TapTapSee Team

On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote: 

TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she is), 
or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather than 
making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app that you 
have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote

Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap See.  
Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune cookie.  Yes, I 
really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said so out comes Tap 
Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box it read my fortune.  
Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me happy but I wanted to let 
you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  
You've made this people happy.

 

Kay Malmquist
kay.ma...@gmail.com

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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-26 Thread TapTapSee
Hi Beth,

Thank you for your support! We truly appreciate it! Please be sure to leave 
us a review in the App Store.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:01:40 PM UTC-8, Beth G wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I really like TapTapSee, and hope it stays  around. I think it is worth 
> paying for
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:02 PM, "Pablo Morales" 
> > 
> wrote:
>
> Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.
> As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
> create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app 
> that can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has 
> been taken with the camera?
> Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range 
> of posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good 
> that when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a 
> good match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the 
> picture, can give suggestions.
> -- Original Message - .
>
> *From:* TapTapSee  
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: tap tap see
>
> Hi Haya, 
>
> I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
> Unfortunately, 
> due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change 
> TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
> free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, 
> but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a 
> paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to 
> do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
> applied with every image that we process.
>
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee Team
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote: 
>>
>>  TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which 
>> she is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that 
>> rather than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free 
>> app that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>>
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>>
>>  Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap 
>> Tap See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.ma...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-26 Thread TapTapSee
Haya,

You're most welcome. Thank you for being so understanding.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:25:28 PM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
>
> Thanks for the explanation. Now i understand. You guys are awesome.
>
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 25, 2014, at 23:57, TapTapSee > 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Haya,
>
> I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
> Unfortunately, 
> due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change 
> TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
> free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, 
> but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a 
> paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to 
> do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
> applied with every image that we process.
>
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee Team
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
>>
>> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
>> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
>> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app 
>> that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>>
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>>
>> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
>> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.ma...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-26 Thread TapTapSee
Hi Pablo,

Unfortunately, we are not able to provide such feedback. There are three 
reason for it. 1. We use a combination of computer vision and 
crowdsourcing. Therefore, it is not always a human that sees the image. The 
humans are a fall back if the computer vision fails. 2. Our system is not 
set up for it. TapTapSee is set up to do image identification as opposed to 
provide advice. 3. Fashion is very subjective. Yes, colors do have specific 
combinations that work best. However, there are people that clash them on 
purpose due to their fashion style. Therefore, it's not something that we 
can do.

I hope this answers your question.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:02:39 PM UTC-8, Pablo Morales wrote:
>
>  
> Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.
> As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
> create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app 
> that can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has 
> been taken with the camera?
> Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range 
> of posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good 
> that when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a 
> good match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the 
> picture, can give suggestions.
> -- Original Message - .
>
> *From:* TapTapSee  
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: tap tap see
>
> Hi Haya, 
>
> I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
> Unfortunately, 
> due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change 
> TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
> free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, 
> but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a 
> paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to 
> do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
> applied with every image that we process.
>
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee Team
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote: 
>>
>>  TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which 
>> she is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that 
>> rather than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free 
>> app that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>>
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>>
>>  Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap 
>> Tap See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.ma...@gmail.com
>>
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-25 Thread Beth G
Hi,
I really like TapTapSee, and hope it stays  around. I think it is worth paying 
for

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:02 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.
> As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
> create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app 
> that can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has 
> been taken with the camera?
> Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range of 
> posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good that 
> when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a good 
> match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the picture, can 
> give suggestions.
> -- Original Message - .
> From: TapTapSee
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: tap tap see
> 
> Hi Haya,
> 
> I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
> Unfortunately, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to 
> change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep 
> TapTapSee free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a 
> year, but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition 
> to a paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able 
> to do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
> applied with every image that we process.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee Team
> 
>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
>> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
>> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
>> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app 
>> that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>> 
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>> 
>>> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
>>> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>>  
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.ma...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-25 Thread Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Thanks for the explanation. Now i understand. You guys are awesome.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 23:57, TapTapSee  wrote:
> 
> Hi Haya,
> 
> I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
> Unfortunately, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to 
> change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep 
> TapTapSee free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a 
> year, but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition 
> to a paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able 
> to do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
> applied with every image that we process.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee Team
> 
>> On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
>> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
>> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
>> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app 
>> that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>> 
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>> 
>>> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
>>> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>>  
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.ma...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-25 Thread Pablo Morales
Talking about tap tap see. I have the following question.
As you know, the people who is totally blind, is no able to see colors, or 
create convinations, or see how looks a convination of colors. Is any app that 
can provide convinations or posible convinations for a color that has been 
taken with the camera?
Like for example, if I take a picture to a shirt, a blue shirt. the range of 
posible colors to make a good match are like not many, but would be good that 
when recognize a  color, detect what kind of convinations could be a good 
match. Or tap tap see can do it. The person who is  looking the picture, can 
give suggestions.
-- Original Message - .
  From: TapTapSee 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: tap tap see


  Hi Haya,


  I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
Unfortunately, due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to 
change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, but 
sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a paid 
subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to do a one 
time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is applied with 
every image that we process.


  Best Wishes,
  TapTapSee Team

  On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app that 
you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote


  Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune cookie.  
Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said so out comes 
Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box it read my 
fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me happy but I 
wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap Tap See.  Keep 
it up guys.  You've made this people happy.

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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-25 Thread TapTapSee
Hi Haya,

I apologize for the inconvenience that the subscription has caused you. 
Unfortunately, 
due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change 
TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We tried to keep TapTapSee 
free for as long as we could, and we were able to do it for over a year, 
but sadly we're facing a situation where we either need to transition to a 
paid subscription model, or shut the app down completely. We're not able to 
do a one time fee for the app because the cost of image recognition is 
applied with every image that we process.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team

On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:57:28 AM UTC-8, haya Simkin wrote:
>
> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app 
> that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist" > 
> wrote
>
> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.ma...@gmail.com 
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-25 Thread TapTapSee
Hi Kay,

I'm happy to hear that the fortune cookie was identified on the first try. 
I'm glad that we were able to improve our identification of it. We monitor 
this forum, and your comment/post was read and noted by our team. Thank you 
for writing a new post that speaks of your positive experience!

Best WIshes,
TapTapSee Team

On Monday, February 24, 2014 10:24:52 AM UTC-8, kay.malmquist wrote:
>
>  Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.ma...@gmail.com 
>

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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-24 Thread Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Like I said, that was my only complaint. Other than that, I do like it and 
think it's very very cool.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2014, at 3:42, Beth G  wrote:
> 
> I have been very happy with TapTapSee. As trying to get a bottle of pain 
> reliever and it was a small one. I was holding in my hand, it was able to 
> tell me which one it was. I thought my hand might be in the way, but it still 
> got it on the first try
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
>> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
>> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app 
>> that you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
>> 
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
>> 
>>> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
>>> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune 
>>> cookie.  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said 
>>> so out comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box 
>>> it read my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me 
>>> happy but I wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap 
>>> Tap See.  Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>>  
>>> Kay Malmquist
>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-24 Thread Beth G
I have been very happy with TapTapSee. As trying to get a bottle of pain 
reliever and it was a small one. I was holding in my hand, it was able to tell 
me which one it was. I thought my hand might be in the way, but it still got it 
on the first try

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>  wrote:
> 
> TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she 
> is), or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather 
> than making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app that 
> you have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.
> 
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
> 
>> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap 
>> See.  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune cookie. 
>>  Yes, I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said so out 
>> comes Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box it read 
>> my fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me happy but I 
>> wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap Tap See.  
>> Keep it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>>  
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: tap tap see

2014-02-24 Thread Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
TapTapSee can even tell me that my guide dog is a black poodle (which she is), 
or a couch (which she isn't). The only complaint I have is that rather than 
making it a free app or an app you can buy, they made it a free app that you 
have subscriptions for. Even so, I would pay for it.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:24, "Kay Malmquist"  wrote
> 
> Well guys I just wanted to write a positive note this time about Tap Tap See. 
>  Back to my fortune cookie story.  This morning I ate a fortune cookie.  Yes, 
> I really do have a life.  I again wanted to know what it said so out comes 
> Tap Tap See.  I took a picture and first crack out of the box it read my 
> fortune.  Awesome!  Amazing!  It doesn't take much to make me happy but I 
> wanted to let you all hear a good and positive outcome for Tap Tap See.  Keep 
> it up guys.  You've made this people happy.
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
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Re: Tap tap see question

2014-01-02 Thread TapTapSee
Donald,

We're working on introducing the synchronization to TapTapSee. It will 
allow you to use the purchased credits across multiple devices that use the 
same Apple ID as Chris suggested.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team

On Sunday, December 22, 2013 12:27:05 AM UTC-8, Chris1984 wrote:
>
> Hi 
> any time you purchase an app on one device, it is free to the other 
> devices so long as they're using the same Apple Id which in this case 
> they are. 
>
> Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris 
>
> On 22/12/2013 00:05, Donald L. Roberts wrote: 
> > I have four IOS devices on my Apple ID.  When I purchase 100 photos from 
> > Tap Tap See, can I use any or all of the four devices; or, must I 
> > purchase 100 pictures for each device I wish to use? 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > Don Roberts 
> > 
>

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Re: Tap tap see question

2013-12-22 Thread Chris H

Hi
any time you purchase an app on one device, it is free to the other 
devices so long as they're using the same Apple Id which in this case 
they are.


Best wishes for Christmas and 2014 Chris

On 22/12/2013 00:05, Donald L. Roberts wrote:

I have four IOS devices on my Apple ID.  When I purchase 100 photos from
Tap Tap See, can I use any or all of the four devices; or, must I
purchase 100 pictures for each device I wish to use?

Thanks.

Don Roberts



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RE: Tap Tap See

2013-11-17 Thread DJ
Yes, and you're looking at it only from a consumer's point of view.  They
have their side to look at too.

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jerry MAder
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap Tap See

 

I agree with Peter.

This is price gouging in my opinion.

I feel like, if I'm gonna pay for something it better be worth my wile or I
won't pay for it.

Tap see isn't. It's constantly giving the wrong information causing me to
take multiple pictures, causing me to then use up all the pictures up just
trying to find the information I need.

I believe that this is truly price gouging, I think they should of went with
a six dollar price for the app and call it good, they're still getting the
money to fund whatever they're funding, and we're getting a great tool.
That's fair enough for me.

Just my thoughts.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Tap Tap See

 

It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to
be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community
doesn't seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out
with their model many on this list were outraged.

 

Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy
user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying
$120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness
specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99
price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost
$19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather
seen a yearly subscription in that range.

 

Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an
awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

 

Thanks for listening.

 

 

Peter 

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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-17 Thread David Chittenden
Every pic that they process costs them money. They offered free service for 
over a year. They offer your first 20 processed pics free so you can determine 
if you wish to pay for their service.

If you are not worried about how long it takes for the identification to come 
back, VizWiz is still being offered for free. Note: I do not know how long this 
will continue considering VizWiz is a university project, and the US government 
is cutting education funding.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17 Nov 2013, at 12:33, "Jerry MAder"  wrote:
> 
> You've hit the nail on the head for me. Why couldn't they offer a free and
> paid version of this app. That would be a better choice for some of us. Say
> make it allow for 5 pics a day. And that's it or something.
> Thanks
> Jerry Mader
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Marie Reh
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Tap Tap See
> 
> I think most of us using Tap Tap See are not bothered about the cost of the
> Subscription. I think the bother is it is just one more subscription to keep
> track of.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of James Howard
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Tap TapSee
> 
> this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care.
> I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start
> paying for something. you people don't take into consideration that one, for
> such a service it is, how many do you think it provides for. Plus, don't you
> realize how much, they possibably have to pay on their end. I mean really,
> these prices they charge, honestly aren't that bad, and if he leps most of
> you like you apparently say it does, then what's the point of complaining, I
> mean, really, they could have done a lot more, they could have charged us a
> lot higher prices, so instead of complaining, saying you refuse to use it
> anymore, be thankful you got what you got, and that it doesn't cost you and
> arm and a leg to use it. Also, this community needs to learn to be more
> considerate of prograamers and companies that try to do thigns like this for
> us, to help make parts of our life easier. so really, only ones that are
> hurting them selves is us, not them. COnsider this also, how long do you
> think it would take for them to stop providing, if they find out that their
> customers aren't greatful for what they do, and rather harp on them for
> charging, just to think of themselves only, and not even give a thought to
> them for making this for us, and for not considering what they have to pay
> out on their end, to keep something like this running, I for one, would
> gladly pay these prices.
> so stop, complaining.
> 
>> On 11/8/13, May and Noah  wrote:
>> Some people don't mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike 
>> those that don't use it that often. I'm one of those that doesn't use 
>> it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn't pay just like I'm choosing 
>> not to go the month route because it's just not worth me paying 
>> monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure.
>> 
>> I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you 
>> have no choice but to choose.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge 
>>> one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could 
>>> pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for 
>>> the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to 
>>> have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure 
>>> that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more 
>>> about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a 
>>> sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures 
>>> right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, 
>>> Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want 
>>> you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app.
>>> There are many blind people out there who think that they should have
> everything for free, but I am not one of them.
>>> 
>>&

RE: Tap Tap See

2013-11-16 Thread Jerry MAder
You've hit the nail on the head for me. Why couldn't they offer a free and
paid version of this app. That would be a better choice for some of us. Say
make it allow for 5 pics a day. And that's it or something.
Thanks
Jerry Mader

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marie Reh
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Tap Tap See

I think most of us using Tap Tap See are not bothered about the cost of the
Subscription. I think the bother is it is just one more subscription to keep
track of.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care.
I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start
paying for something. you people don't take into consideration that one, for
such a service it is, how many do you think it provides for. Plus, don't you
realize how much, they possibably have to pay on their end. I mean really,
these prices they charge, honestly aren't that bad, and if he leps most of
you like you apparently say it does, then what's the point of complaining, I
mean, really, they could have done a lot more, they could have charged us a
lot higher prices, so instead of complaining, saying you refuse to use it
anymore, be thankful you got what you got, and that it doesn't cost you and
arm and a leg to use it. Also, this community needs to learn to be more
considerate of prograamers and companies that try to do thigns like this for
us, to help make parts of our life easier. so really, only ones that are
hurting them selves is us, not them. COnsider this also, how long do you
think it would take for them to stop providing, if they find out that their
customers aren't greatful for what they do, and rather harp on them for
charging, just to think of themselves only, and not even give a thought to
them for making this for us, and for not considering what they have to pay
out on their end, to keep something like this running, I for one, would
gladly pay these prices.
so stop, complaining.

On 11/8/13, May and Noah  wrote:
> Some people don't mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike 
> those that don't use it that often. I'm one of those that doesn't use 
> it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn't pay just like I'm choosing 
> not to go the month route because it's just not worth me paying 
> monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure.
>
> I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you 
> have no choice but to choose.
>
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge 
>> one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could 
>> pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for 
>> the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to 
>> have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure 
>> that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more 
>> about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a 
>> sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures 
>> right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, 
>> Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want 
>> you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app.
>> There are many blind people out there who think that they should have
everything for free, but I am not one of them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see 
>>> reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some 
>>> insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the 
>>> second lots of people, well,  move on to some other free apps like 
>>> VizWiz, or source it with other app.
>>> I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay
>>> $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a 
>>> heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used 
>>> TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to 
>>> read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy 
>>> things
are.
>>> As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is 
>>> 

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-15 Thread Joanne Chua
Are you saying that you deny the fund for research and development?
How do you know that the cost you pay for your iPhone does not help
someone along the line to purchase an Androy phone? Well, surprise
surprise, i'm sure some staff from the process of making an iPhone,
would have own an androy phone some how. And, surprise surprise, part
of your contribution to Apple, which then pay for their wages
contribute to the staff on the cost of purchasing the Androy phone as
well. And, most developers, doesn't matter if you pay or free, does
develop apps for multiple platform, e.g. Androy, iOS and perhaps even
Windows platform. Are you going to boycott half of the apps
developers?

On 11/11/2013, Jerry MAder  wrote:
> I agree with Peter.
>
> This is price gouging in my opinion.
>
> I feel like, if I'm gonna pay for something it better be worth my wile or I
> won't pay for it.
>
> Tap see isn't. It's constantly giving the wrong information causing me to
> take multiple pictures, causing me to then use up all the pictures up just
> trying to find the information I need.
>
> I believe that this is truly price gouging, I think they should of went
> with
> a six dollar price for the app and call it good, they're still getting the
> money to fund whatever they're funding, and we're getting a great tool.
> That's fair enough for me.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Jerry Mader
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Peter Logan
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
> To: Vi Phone
> Subject: Tap Tap See
>
>
>
> It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider
> to
> be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community
> doesn't seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out
> with their model many on this list were outraged.
>
>
>
> Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy
> user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be
> paying
> $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any
> blindness
> specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99
> price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost
> $19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather
> seen a yearly subscription in that range.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an
> awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.
>
>
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
>
>
>
>
> Peter
>
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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-15 Thread Robert Doc Wright
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From: "Marie Reh" 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: Tap Tap See


I think most of us using Tap Tap See are not bothered about the cost of the
Subscription. I think the bother is it is just one more subscription to keep
track of.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care.
I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start
paying for something. you people don't take into consideration that one, for
such a service it is, how many do you think it provides for. Plus, don't you
realize how much, they possibably have to pay on their end. I mean really,
these prices they charge, honestly aren't that bad, and if he leps most of
you like you apparently say it does, then what's the point of complaining, I
mean, really, they could have done a lot more, they could have charged us a
lot higher prices, so instead of complaining, saying you refuse to use it
anymore, be thankful you got what you got, and that it doesn't cost you and
arm and a leg to use it. Also, this community needs to learn to be more
considerate of prograamers and companies that try to do thigns like this for
us, to help make parts of our life easier. so really, only ones that are
hurting them selves is us, not them. COnsider this also, how long do you
think it would take for them to stop providing, if they find out that their
customers aren't greatful for what they do, and rather harp on them for
charging, just to think of themselves only, and not even give a thought to
them for making this for us, and for not considering what they have to pay
out on their end, to keep something like this running, I for one, would
gladly pay these prices.
so stop, complaining.

On 11/8/13, May and Noah  wrote:
> Some people don't mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike
> those that don't use it that often. I'm one of those that doesn't use
> it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn't pay just like I'm choosing
> not to go the month route because it's just not worth me paying
> monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure.
>
> I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you
> have no choice but to choose.
>
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge
>> one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could
>> pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for
>> the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to
>> have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure
>> that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more
>> about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a
>> sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures
>> right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless,
>> Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want
>> you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app.
>> There are many blind people out there who think that they should have
everything for free, but I am not one of them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see
>>> reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some
>>> insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the
>>> second lots of people, well,  move on to some other free apps like
>>> VizWiz, or source it with other app.
>>> I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay
>>> $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a
>>> heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used
>>> TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to
>>> read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things
are.
>>> As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is
>>> nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how
>>> skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to
>>> close not too f

RE: Tap Tap See

2013-11-15 Thread Jerry MAder
I agree with Peter.

This is price gouging in my opinion.

I feel like, if I'm gonna pay for something it better be worth my wile or I
won't pay for it.

Tap see isn't. It's constantly giving the wrong information causing me to
take multiple pictures, causing me to then use up all the pictures up just
trying to find the information I need.

I believe that this is truly price gouging, I think they should of went with
a six dollar price for the app and call it good, they're still getting the
money to fund whatever they're funding, and we're getting a great tool.
That's fair enough for me.

Just my thoughts.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Logan
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
To: Vi Phone
Subject: Tap Tap See

 

It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to
be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community
doesn't seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out
with their model many on this list were outraged.

 

Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy
user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying
$120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness
specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99
price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost
$19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather
seen a yearly subscription in that range.

 

Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an
awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

 

Thanks for listening.

 

 

Peter 

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RE: Tap Tap See

2013-11-15 Thread Marie Reh
I think most of us using Tap Tap See are not bothered about the cost of the
Subscription. I think the bother is it is just one more subscription to keep
track of.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Howard
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

this may get me kicked off the list, but at this point, I don't care.
I'm really tired, of the blind community wining when they have to start
paying for something. you people don't take into consideration that one, for
such a service it is, how many do you think it provides for. Plus, don't you
realize how much, they possibably have to pay on their end. I mean really,
these prices they charge, honestly aren't that bad, and if he leps most of
you like you apparently say it does, then what's the point of complaining, I
mean, really, they could have done a lot more, they could have charged us a
lot higher prices, so instead of complaining, saying you refuse to use it
anymore, be thankful you got what you got, and that it doesn't cost you and
arm and a leg to use it. Also, this community needs to learn to be more
considerate of prograamers and companies that try to do thigns like this for
us, to help make parts of our life easier. so really, only ones that are
hurting them selves is us, not them. COnsider this also, how long do you
think it would take for them to stop providing, if they find out that their
customers aren't greatful for what they do, and rather harp on them for
charging, just to think of themselves only, and not even give a thought to
them for making this for us, and for not considering what they have to pay
out on their end, to keep something like this running, I for one, would
gladly pay these prices.
so stop, complaining.

On 11/8/13, May and Noah  wrote:
> Some people don't mind going for the 8 dollars for 100 pictures ike 
> those that don't use it that often. I'm one of those that doesn't use 
> it that often so 30 or whatever I wouldn't pay just like I'm choosing 
> not to go the month route because it's just not worth me paying 
> monthly for. Now if I used it more often sure.
>
> I think them having different rate plans is better than one price you 
> have no choice but to choose.
>
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
>
> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Lea Langley  wrote:
>
>> Hi, I really do like your app. Could I suggest that maybe you charge 
>> one full price for the app say 20 or $30 for the app and people could 
>> pay that. This way you might make more money I do not mind paying for 
>> the app, but I wish you could be one Price instead of continuing to 
>> have to purchase package. I really do like your app, and I'm sure 
>> that whatever you come up with will be fair. You know a lot more 
>> about these things than I do. We have to take more pictures than a 
>> sighted person because it is difficult sometimes to get the pictures 
>> right. Thank you for a great app and have a great day, God bless, 
>> Wren PS. I certainly do not expect to have this app for free. I want 
>> you to know that I really truly do not mind paying for this app. 
>> There are many blind people out there who think that they should have
everything for free, but I am not one of them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:13 AM, Joanne Chua  wrote:
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, It comes to this. Either, some that see 
>>> reason, supporting the developer to keep it going, or like some 
>>> insist, as a blind user, you are entitle to freebies. If you are the 
>>> second lots of people, well,  move on to some other free apps like 
>>> VizWiz, or source it with other app.
>>> I've mention on another TapTapSee topic that i'll be willing, to pay
>>> $8 for 8C per picture for what TapTapSee can done for me. I'm not a 
>>> heavy user, or by all means a regular user. The time that i used 
>>> TapTapSee, on a bookstore to get title of a book and on a cafe to 
>>> read the menu, i am very impress with the result and how speedy things
are.
>>> As far as how many pics you need to take for the accuracy, that is 
>>> nothing to do with the developer, but have a lot to do with how 
>>> skillful you are on taking the picture, e.g. correct angle, not to 
>>> close not too far, and correct brightness etc.
>>>
>>> For those that complain about the price, well, $10 per month may 
>>> seems a lot, compare to your GPS subscription, but how often do you 
>>> use your GPS App, compare to how often you use TapTapSee?
>>> Also, by paying the app, i hope, the users of the app will be more 
>>> serious on what they taking, instead of randem pictures that i know 
>>> some of blind people take, of some body part, or some slightly R 
>>> Rated photo just "to test it out".
>>> One willing to pay $$$ f or a big mac, but not willing to pay 35C 
>>> per day to support the app? again, because, "blind user are entitle 
>>> to freebies" kind of attitude

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
t comes to keeping up with new users signing up 
for their service and accessing newly available content, such as 
maintaining the necessary network bandwidth, keeping up with server 
storage and so on. I'm sure if I watch TiVo for 100 hours a week, I'm 
putting more of a strain on their infrastructure than if I just watch 
TiVo 1 hour a week. I also wouldn't be surprised if they have to make 
licensing payments to their content providers based on customer 
usage. TiVo traditionally has a subscription service, like NetFlix 
for example, but they do or at least used to offer a lifetime flat 
price option.


You're right, Tap Tap See incurs a cost every time someone sends them 
a picture, and there's probably no flat price that people could 
stomach that would give them the revenue from new users to keep up 
with the picture recognition demand, which is what I meant when I 
said it's not just that they have incurring costs but that those 
costs are relatively high and their number of new sales they can 
count on is relatively low. BTW, The scenario you point out can also 
happen with the monthly flat rate. If I pay $10 a month, Tap Tap See 
will incur a much greater cost to support me if I send in 1000 
pictures then they will if I send in 100 pictures that month. They 
figure $10 a month will work for them though in spite of this. I 
suppose Tap Tap See could offer a $1000 price for a lifetime 
subscription, but it's probably not worth it to them to come up with 
a way to administer such a model for the few people that would 
actually pay this much up front for such a life time service.


On 11/11/2013 01:50 PM, Steve wrote:
Clearly, Christopher, you don't understand the difference.  You are 
comparing apples to oranges.
DVD Audio Extractor nor Tivo incur any costs when you extract audio 
from one of your DVD's or record a movie. All that activity takes 
place locally, it doesn't matter to them whether you extract one or 
a thousand DVD's.  They don't have any additional costs whether you 
are a light or heavy user of their program.  The only thing they are 
providing you are free software updates when an update is released.  
Provisioning this to an existing user is not really incurring an 
added cost to them, except for you getting the program from their 
server, I suppose.  The update enhances the program and hopefully 
makes it marketable to new buyers, which is where they derive their 
continued revenue growth.
This is not the same model as TTS App uses.  In the case of Tap Tap 
See, every time you send a picture to them, they are incurring a 
cost to have someone identify it.  Therefore, if you recognize a 
thousand pictures, you are costing them a hundred times as much as 
someone who only recognizes ten pictures with it.

Steve
- Original Message -
*From:* Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: Tap Tap See

There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes 
towards supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD 
Audio Extractor and now I get updates and support for life. You can 
purchase TiVo for life with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee 
for my iPhone and now I get updates to IOS for no charge. I don't 
use this MLB app, but I'm not sure there aren't ongoing costs, such 
as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so on.


I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image 
recognition combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an 
app targeted at the blind would generate.


On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity. This is a free 
market, you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a 
very useful app.  Only a few people seem to understand that the 
developer has to pay the people that recognize the images on a 
per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a one=-time fee for the app has 
nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model in this case.  It is 
not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB where there are 
no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.
Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers 
taking the blind into consideration in their image recognition 
program.  As far as I can tell, that particular program requires 
the assistance of a sighted person to set up a database, so this is 
in no way at all comparable to what Tap Tap See is doing.
Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on 
the type of quality response you get and how long you are willing 
to wait before getting a response from volunteers.
As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such 
thing as a free lunch".
Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be 
paying for 100 pic

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-11 Thread Joanne Chua
o an existing user 
>> is not really incurring an added cost to them, except for you getting the 
>> program from their server, I suppose.  The update enhances the program and 
>> hopefully makes it marketable to new buyers, which is where they derive 
>> their continued revenue growth. 
>>  
>> This is not the same model as TTS App uses.  In the case of Tap Tap See, 
>> every time you send a picture to them, they are incurring a cost to have 
>> someone identify it.  Therefore, if you recognize a thousand pictures, you 
>> are costing them a hundred times as much as someone who only recognizes ten 
>> pictures with it. 
>>  
>> Steve
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher Chaltain
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: Tap Tap See
>> 
>> There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes towards 
>> supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio Extractor 
>> and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo for life 
>> with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I get 
>> updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not sure 
>> there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so 
>> on.
>> 
>> I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
>> combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at the 
>> blind would generate.
>> 
>>> On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
>>> I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
>>> you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app.  
>>> Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
>>> people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
>>> one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
>>> in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
>>> where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.
>>>  
>>> Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
>>> blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
>>> can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
>>> person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
>>> Tap Tap See is doing.
>>>  
>>> Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the type 
>>> of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before 
>>> getting a response from volunteers.
>>>  
>>> As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
>>> free lunch".
>>>  
>>> Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
>>> for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do 
>>> hope they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
>>> response we get from the Terks.
>>>  
>>> Steve
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Peter Logan
>>> To: Vi Phone
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
>>> Subject: Tap Tap See
>>> 
>>> It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider 
>>> to be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this 
>>> community doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS 
>>> came out with their model many on this list were outraged.
>>>  
>>> Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy 
>>> user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be 
>>> paying $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any 
>>> blindness specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or 
>>> even $6.99 price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At 
>>> Bat only cost $19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would 
>>> have rather seen a yearly subscription in that range.
>>>  
>>> Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an 
>>> awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.
>>>  
>>> Thanks for listening.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Peter
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Re: Tap-tap see... forgive me... purchasing question.

2013-11-11 Thread TapTapSee
Jenifer,

As David and Marianne mentioned, you will see a message pop up on your 
screen that will present the two purchase options. Option 1) 100 Picture 
Pack for $7.99 with no time limit. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures 
for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you 
choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted 
with a message to renew after that time period runs out. It is much like 
buying an app in the App Store. All that is required is for you to login 
with your password and confirm the purchase.

Please let me know if you have anymore questions.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:30:12 PM UTC-8, Jenifer Gilley wrote:
>
> Ok.  I have to admit I haven't been following this thread because it's 
> too huge and I don't have time to read the dozens of messages that 
> have came in regarding this.  i know that there will be two prices, 
> one for unlimited and one for I believe 50 picks.  But how can I 
> purchase whatever monthly option I want?  My fault for not following 
> and I appoligize in advance.  If the developer wishes to write me 
> privately re: this I would appreciate it.  I for one will pay what I 
> have too because IMO TapTap see is the best OCR ap, for me... and I'm 
> willing to pay for it monthly. 
>
> Jen 
>

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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
True, and you're not the first person to tell me how clear it is that I 
miss the obvious.


A few subtle distinctions though. I was responding to people who were 
making blanket statements that you can't support on going costs with a 
one time fee business model. DVD Audio Extractor does provide me 
upgrades and customer support at no charge. Obviously, they incur a 
request every time I contact customer support.


TiVo does much more than provide the chance to record a movie. They 
provide access to an ever changing variety of streaming content. I would 
assume they have incurring costs with respect to interfacing with the 
various sources of content they provide. They also have incurring costs 
when it comes to keeping up with new users signing up for their service 
and accessing newly available content, such as maintaining the necessary 
network bandwidth, keeping up with server storage and so on. I'm sure if 
I watch TiVo for 100 hours a week, I'm putting more of a strain on their 
infrastructure than if I just watch TiVo 1 hour a week. I also wouldn't 
be surprised if they have to make licensing payments to their content 
providers based on customer usage. TiVo traditionally has a subscription 
service, like NetFlix for example, but they do or at least used to offer 
a lifetime flat price option.


You're right, Tap Tap See incurs a cost every time someone sends them a 
picture, and there's probably no flat price that people could stomach 
that would give them the revenue from new users to keep up with the 
picture recognition demand, which is what I meant when I said it's not 
just that they have incurring costs but that those costs are relatively 
high and their number of new sales they can count on is relatively low. 
BTW, The scenario you point out can also happen with the monthly flat 
rate. If I pay $10 a month, Tap Tap See will incur a much greater cost 
to support me if I send in 1000 pictures then they will if I send in 100 
pictures that month. They figure $10 a month will work for them though 
in spite of this. I suppose Tap Tap See could offer a $1000 price for a 
lifetime subscription, but it's probably not worth it to them to come up 
with a way to administer such a model for the few people that would 
actually pay this much up front for such a life time service.


On 11/11/2013 01:50 PM, Steve wrote:
Clearly, Christopher, you don't understand the difference. You are 
comparing apples to oranges.
DVD Audio Extractor nor Tivo incur any costs when you extract audio 
from one of your DVD's or record a movie.  All that activity takes 
place locally, it doesn't matter to them whether you extract one or a 
thousand DVD's.  They don't have any additional costs whether you are 
a light or heavy user of their program.  The only thing they are 
providing you are free software updates when an update is released.  
Provisioning this to an existing user is not really incurring an added 
cost to them, except for you getting the program from their server, I 
suppose.  The update enhances the program and hopefully makes it 
marketable to new buyers, which is where they derive their continued 
revenue growth.
This is not the same model as TTS App uses.  In the case of Tap Tap 
See, every time you send a picture to them, they are incurring a cost 
to have someone identify it.  Therefore, if you recognize a thousand 
pictures, you are costing them a hundred times as much as someone who 
only recognizes ten pictures with it.

Steve
- Original Message -
*From:* Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: Tap Tap See

There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes 
towards supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD 
Audio Extractor and now I get updates and support for life. You can 
purchase TiVo for life with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for 
my iPhone and now I get updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this 
MLB app, but I'm not sure there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, 
upgrades, licensing fees and so on.


I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image 
recognition combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an 
app targeted at the blind would generate.


On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free 
market, you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very 
useful app.  Only a few people seem to understand that the developer 
has to pay the people that recognize the images on a per-image 
basis.  Therefore, paying a one=-time fee for the app has nothing to 
do with a reasonable pricing model in this case.  It is not the same 
as paying for a season's access on MLB where there are no ongoing 
costs

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-11 Thread Steve
Clearly, Christopher, you don't understand the difference.  You are 
comparing apples to oranges.

DVD Audio Extractor nor Tivo incur any costs when you extract audio from one 
of your DVD's or record a movie.  All that activity takes place locally, it 
doesn't matter to them whether you extract one or a thousand DVD's.  They 
don't have any additional costs whether you are a light or heavy user of 
their program.  The only thing they are providing you are free software 
updates when an update is released.  Provisioning this to an existing user 
is not really incurring an added cost to them, except for you getting the 
program from their server, I suppose.  The update enhances the program and 
hopefully makes it marketable to new buyers, which is where they derive 
their continued revenue growth.

This is not the same model as TTS App uses.  In the case of Tap Tap See, 
every time you send a picture to them, they are incurring a cost to have 
someone identify it.  Therefore, if you recognize a thousand pictures, you 
are costing them a hundred times as much as someone who only recognizes ten 
pictures with it.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See


There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes towards 
supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio Extractor 
and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo for life 
with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I get 
updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not sure 
there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so 
on.

I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at the 
blind would generate.


On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:

  I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app. 
Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.

  Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
Tap Tap See is doing.

  Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the 
type of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before 
getting a response from volunteers.

  As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
free lunch".

  Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do hope 
they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
response we get from the Terks.

  Steve
  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter Logan
  To: Vi Phone
  Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
  Subject: Tap Tap See


  It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider 
to be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community 
doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out 
with their model many on this list were outraged.

  Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy 
user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying 
$120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness 
specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99 
price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost 
$19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather 
seen a yearly subscription in that range.

  Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an 
awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

  Thanks for listening.


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Re: Tap-tap see... forgive me... purchasing question.

2013-11-11 Thread Marianne Denning
It seems to appear at different times for different people.  I had the
purchase options on my phone the very first day but it may not have
appeared on your phone yet.  Just wait until it does and keep using it
free until you get the notification.  Then double tap on the option
you want and begin the purchase process through the app store.  Then
it will appear again when it is time to purchase again.  The developer
plans to put a counter on the app in the near future.

On 11/11/13, David Chittenden  wrote:
> The purchasing option will appear in the app. You purchased through your
> normal iTunes account, just like when purchasing any app.
>
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>> Ok.  I have to admit I haven't been following this thread because it's
>> too huge and I don't have time to read the dozens of messages that
>> have came in regarding this.  i know that there will be two prices,
>> one for unlimited and one for I believe 50 picks.  But how can I
>> purchase whatever monthly option I want?  My fault for not following
>> and I appoligize in advance.  If the developer wishes to write me
>> privately re: this I would appreciate it.  I for one will pay what I
>> have too because IMO TapTap see is the best OCR ap, for me... and I'm
>> willing to pay for it monthly.
>>
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Re: Tap-tap see... forgive me... purchasing question.

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
The purchasing option will appear in the app. You purchased through your normal 
iTunes account, just like when purchasing any app.

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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 13:30, Jenifer Barr  wrote:
> 
> Ok.  I have to admit I haven't been following this thread because it's
> too huge and I don't have time to read the dozens of messages that
> have came in regarding this.  i know that there will be two prices,
> one for unlimited and one for I believe 50 picks.  But how can I
> purchase whatever monthly option I want?  My fault for not following
> and I appoligize in advance.  If the developer wishes to write me
> privately re: this I would appreciate it.  I for one will pay what I
> have too because IMO TapTap see is the best OCR ap, for me... and I'm
> willing to pay for it monthly.
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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
I actually agree with you. Just like many products or services from almost 
every market, social perception of any company has a definite effect on the 
success of the company. This influence is slower than immediate price effects, 
but it is measurable. Bad perceptions about companies tend to stick much more 
strongly than good perceptions. Marketing calls this branding a company or 
product. When a company has developed certain reputations, this social stigma 
can make it much more difficult for the company's new products / services to be 
accepted, and the company tends to be viewed with much more cynicism. 

The developer of The Seeing Eye GPS is dealing with the mixed perceptions of, 
expertese in their market niche on the positive, verses charging over the top 
as their negative.

TapTapSee, on the other hand, is dealing with a completely different situation. 
Because they offered their product for free for over a year, and it is premium 
quality, their market developed a charity perception of the company. Therefore, 
switching to a fee-for-service model is giving them the same perception of 
attempting to gouge their market, because charities that charge are being 
greedy companies in our capitalistic social model of society.

They could have handled their necessary transition to a fee-for-service model 
in a much more effective manner had they understood that they were being 
perceived as a charity by their customers. Unfortunately, it appears that they 
only looked at the business side of things, figured out how much they would 
need to charge to keep the service going, and implemented the changes. Those of 
us who are trained in sociology and psychology related disciplines are usually 
not cross-trained in business, or the other way around, so these situations 
tend to amplify, especially for small developers. 

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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 12:31, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I think this is all good and interesting data, and I respect the makers of 
> Tap Tap See for being so open, but this is way more information than I have 
> when I buy a main stream product. Usually I compare prices and decide whether 
> to buy a particular product based on whether I think it's worth it to me or 
> not and whether I think I'm getting the best deal I can. I have no idea how 
> much it costs Apple to manufacture an iPhone, although given how wealthy 
> Apple is, I assume they get a pretty good markup on their products. I don't 
> research their manufacturing costs or accuse them of price gouging. I think 
> manufacturers of blindness related products have a right to set a price for 
> their product or service, and can even stand to make a profit without 
> engaging in price gouging. I also think blind customers can choose to pass on 
> a product or a service without being free loaders.
> 
> I realize the blindness community is a bit different though. The market is 
> much smaller. There are fewer products to choose from and many of the 
> products are developed with grants, so this kind of openness and discussion 
> is good, but let's not forget that we're having this discussion in a 
> capitalist economy.
> 
>> On 11/10/2013 03:44 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>> There are two differences between this app and the Seeing Eye app.
>> 
>> First, this app has more substantial ongoing costs per image. The developer 
>> needs to pay someone every time an image is identified. If they are using 
>> the source I learned of a couple years ago, their cost is somewhere between 
>> 1.5 and 3.5 cents per image. However, no matter what the source, they are 
>> paying, have paid this entire time, and donated their services as a charity 
>> to the blind users. They expected certain usage, and were caught out by the 
>> very high demand for which their budget did not count on.
>> 
>> The Seeing Eye app's development, on the other hand, was funded by the 
>> Seeing Eye. The company pays an annual subscription to access the internet 
>> map database which they use. Most of their POI sources are free. Therefore, 
>> they are earning a high premium for their service, which does not provide 
>> much more than the standard GPS navigation app. Their audio description 
>> algorithm is a one-time, fairly high developmental cost, but is most likely 
>> not as significant of an ongoing cost.
>> 
>> Second, and illustrated by the above, TapTapSee generated good will amongst 
>> the community by providing their service for free, at obvious ongoing cost 
>> to them, without making this fact well-known. I only learned how much it was 
>> costing them at the beginning of last year because I found their KickStarter 
>> campaign where they published the fact, to the funding development 
>> community, as part of the reason they were seeking funding support for 
>> development costs for what was going to be a free app.
>> 
>> The developer of The See

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think this is all good and interesting data, and I respect the makers 
of Tap Tap See for being so open, but this is way more information than 
I have when I buy a main stream product. Usually I compare prices and 
decide whether to buy a particular product based on whether I think it's 
worth it to me or not and whether I think I'm getting the best deal I 
can. I have no idea how much it costs Apple to manufacture an iPhone, 
although given how wealthy Apple is, I assume they get a pretty good 
markup on their products. I don't research their manufacturing costs or 
accuse them of price gouging. I think manufacturers of blindness related 
products have a right to set a price for their product or service, and 
can even stand to make a profit without engaging in price gouging. I 
also think blind customers can choose to pass on a product or a service 
without being free loaders.


I realize the blindness community is a bit different though. The market 
is much smaller. There are fewer products to choose from and many of the 
products are developed with grants, so this kind of openness and 
discussion is good, but let's not forget that we're having this 
discussion in a capitalist economy.


On 11/10/2013 03:44 PM, David Chittenden wrote:

There are two differences between this app and the Seeing Eye app.

First, this app has more substantial ongoing costs per image. The 
developer needs to pay someone every time an image is identified. If 
they are using the source I learned of a couple years ago, their cost 
is somewhere between 1.5 and 3.5 cents per image. However, no matter 
what the source, they are paying, have paid this entire time, and 
donated their services as a charity to the blind users. They expected 
certain usage, and were caught out by the very high demand for which 
their budget did not count on.


The Seeing Eye app's development, on the other hand, was funded by the 
Seeing Eye. The company pays an annual subscription to access the 
internet map database which they use. Most of their POI sources are 
free. Therefore, they are earning a high premium for their service, 
which does not provide much more than the standard GPS navigation app. 
Their audio description algorithm is a one-time, fairly high 
developmental cost, but is most likely not as significant of an 
ongoing cost.


Second, and illustrated by the above, TapTapSee generated good will 
amongst the community by providing their service for free, at obvious 
ongoing cost to them, without making this fact well-known. I only 
learned how much it was costing them at the beginning of last year 
because I found their KickStarter campaign where they published the 
fact, to the funding development community, as part of the reason they 
were seeking funding support for development costs for what was going 
to be a free app.


The developer of The Seeing Eye App, on the other hand, used to charge 
$1500 for its specialised GPS navigation apps and programs, with 
annual update fees that cost a couple hundred dollars. When they put 
out their LookAround app, they charged three times what other apps of 
its type do, and provided significantly less information in many 
areas, but they capitalised on the fact that they develop specialised 
GPS apps to help the blind. As I recall, this was in their App Store 
description. After much fan-fair touting the fact that The Seeing Eye 
was significantly funding their development costs, they put The Seeing 
Eye app out for a higher cost than any of the apps which place maps 
locally on the iPhone, for an app that requires using internet-based 
maps. Considering that these maps are provided free or very low cost 
by other companies, The Seeing Eye developer is banking on their name 
in the specialised field to charge as much as they can get away with 
(perception of gouging the market).


I personally do not believe the Seeing Eye is gouging the market that 
much, though I do believe their prices are significantly more than 
necessary for them to remain viable. However, I do not perceive their 
add-on algorithms as significant enough of a difference above the 
standard accessible GPS navigation app. I know this is partially do to 
the sour taste left in my mouth from the LookAround experience.


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On 11 Nov 2013, at 2:35, "Peter Logan" > wrote:


It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I 
consider to be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me 
that this community doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the 
Seeing Eye GPS came out with their model many on this list were outraged.
Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a 
heavy user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you 
will be paying $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest 
price of any blindnes

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
TapTapSee,

I require the data on blindness to be as accurate and exact as possible for my 
PhD study and research. I spent several months in the university academic 
library, and on the academic databases, compiling and synthesising the data. A 
few more facts I found follow.

Most research which quotes numbers and percentages, especially regarding 
unemployment of blind people, is almost entirely based on one research study 
conducted in 1995. Almost all citations of these numbers that do not point to 
this particular published study point to other studies which point to this 
particular study. I spent a couple weeks tracing every source I could locate.

Specifically in Oregon, the unemployment statistics of blind people is 
different from the quoted national stats that all come from the 1995 study. The 
Oregon Labor Board shows unemployment of low vision at 35% to 50% (their best 
vision cut-off was 20/80), legal blindness was 40% to 55%, and severe blindness 
was 50% to 65%. This was as of 2007 employment statistical information, and I 
did not perform any further research as I was focused specifically on the state 
of Oregon at that time. However, what I subsequently learned during my research 
on defining blindness places the older 1995 study's information into doubt for 
modern times as far as I am concerned.

The total number of blind people, using the international definition of 
blindness comes from the World Blind Union and the World Health Organisation. 
It relies on official population information provided by each country, and 
shows that some developing nations report blindness at 0.8% of their 
population. In the developed world, almost every country reports 0.4% to 0.5% 
of their populations as being blind. I specifically checked the US and NZ and 
confirmed these numbers. This information is accurate as of 2011. 

Most countries do not break down between blindness and severe blindness. For 
this information, I amalgamate information from the United States National 
Federation of the Blind, the Royal New Zealand Foundation of the Blind, the 
American Printing House for the Blind, The World Blind Union, and the World 
Health Organisation. The percent of population reported is consistent across 
these disparate sources, and was published between 2009 and 2012 depending on 
the source. That said, the last two sources amalgamate their information from 
other sources.

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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 11:13, TapTapSee  wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Thank you for providing the explanation for why the one-time fee is not 
> possible for us. This is true, since our costs are ongoing it is difficult 
> for us to be able to work on a one-time fee model. We use a combination of 
> computer vision and crowdsourcing. We do not use volunteers at all.
> 
> Also, thank you for the information about the statistics in regard to the 
> blind and visually impaired. I've found them to be very interesting. 
> Personally, I'll be doing further research in that direction. I've read the 
> original statistics before, but some of the additional information you've 
> provided I've only seen a few times. I think that further review will be 
> needed to see where the real numbers stand. I've read before that it's a bit 
> difficult to get accurate numbers since some people do not see eye doctors. 
> Their reasons vary, but it does make it difficult to get accurate data.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> TapTapSee
> 
>> On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:07:07 PM UTC-8, David Chittenden wrote:
>> In this message, I will address the business reasons why the one-time fee 
>> does not work in the tiny market.
>> 
>> When one's customer base is a maximum of only one out of every one thousand 
>> customers, you are working with very small numbers.
>> 
>> In the normal one-time fee for continuous expenditure services, the company 
>> figures out its ongoing support costs. In the examples brought up in the 
>> message I am replying to, these costs include further development, 
>> streaming, and other related costs. In this case, the business knows what 
>> these costs will be, and knows how many customers it needs to bring on per 
>> month. As for the sports broadcasting apps, their model is an annual fee 
>> model. The subscriber pays each year for a season pass to listen to all 
>> games. Next year, the subscriber must purchase a new app, or must pay a new 
>> yearly fee (depending on the sports app).
>> 
>> Other apps sell advertising and make money based on the types of customers 
>> they have. Advertising companies pay good money to target their ads to 
>> specific market segments.
>> 
>> Apps that target large market segments receive decent amounts of money per 
>> month from new purchasers of their apps. In many cases, initial development 
>> and set-up costs may have been high, but continuing and support costs are 
>> significantly lower, so they can ea

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread TapTapSee
David,

Thank you for providing the explanation for why the one-time fee is not 
possible for us. This is true, since our costs are ongoing it is difficult 
for us to be able to work on a one-time fee model. We use a combination of 
computer vision and crowdsourcing. We do not use volunteers at all.

Also, thank you for the information about the statistics in regard to the 
blind and visually impaired. I've found them to be very interesting. 
Personally, I'll be doing further research in that direction. I've read the 
original statistics before, but some of the additional information you've 
provided I've only seen a few times. I think that further review will be 
needed to see where the real numbers stand. I've read before that it's a 
bit difficult to get accurate numbers since some people do not see eye 
doctors. Their reasons vary, but it does make it difficult to get accurate 
data.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:07:07 PM UTC-8, David Chittenden wrote:
>
> In this message, I will address the business reasons why the one-time fee 
> does not work in the tiny market.
>
> When one's customer base is a maximum of only one out of every one 
> thousand customers, you are working with very small numbers.
>
> In the normal one-time fee for continuous expenditure services, the 
> company figures out its ongoing support costs. In the examples brought up 
> in the message I am replying to, these costs include further development, 
> streaming, and other related costs. In this case, the business knows what 
> these costs will be, and knows how many customers it needs to bring on per 
> month. As for the sports broadcasting apps, their model is an annual fee 
> model. The subscriber pays each year for a season pass to listen to all 
> games. Next year, the subscriber must purchase a new app, or must pay a new 
> yearly fee (depending on the sports app).
>
> Other apps sell advertising and make money based on the types of customers 
> they have. Advertising companies pay good money to target their ads to 
> specific market segments.
>
> Apps that target large market segments receive decent amounts of money per 
> month from new purchasers of their apps. In many cases, initial development 
> and set-up costs may have been high, but continuing and support costs are 
> significantly lower, so they can easily afford a low, one-time fee whilst 
> providing continuing service. That said, many apps are switching to in-app 
> time-based purchasing models, or selling new apps and stop supporting / 
> updating the older version after one to two years, because they are finding 
> the continuing support to be too much of a drain on their available 
> resources.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchit...@gmail.com 
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 11 Nov 2013, at 7:03, Christopher Chaltain 
> > 
> wrote:
>
> There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes 
> towards supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio 
> Extractor and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo 
> for life with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I 
> get updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not 
> sure there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees 
> and so on.
>
> I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
> combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at 
> the blind would generate.
>
> On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
>  
> I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
> you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app.  
> Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
> people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
> one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
> in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
> where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.
>  
> Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
> blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
> can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
> person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
> Tap Tap See is doing.
>  
> Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the 
> type of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait 
> before getting a response from volunteers.
>  
> As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
> free lunch".
>  
> Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
> for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do 
> hope they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
> response we get fro

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
There are two differences between this app and the Seeing Eye app.

First, this app has more substantial ongoing costs per image. The developer 
needs to pay someone every time an image is identified. If they are using the 
source I learned of a couple years ago, their cost is somewhere between 1.5 and 
3.5 cents per image. However, no matter what the source, they are paying, have 
paid this entire time, and donated their services as a charity to the blind 
users. They expected certain usage, and were caught out by the very high demand 
for which their budget did not count on.

The Seeing Eye app's development, on the other hand, was funded by the Seeing 
Eye. The company pays an annual subscription to access the internet map 
database which they use. Most of their POI sources are free. Therefore, they 
are earning a high premium for their service, which does not provide much more 
than the standard GPS navigation app. Their audio description algorithm is a 
one-time, fairly high developmental cost, but is most likely not as significant 
of an ongoing cost.

Second, and illustrated by the above, TapTapSee generated good will amongst the 
community by providing their service for free, at obvious ongoing cost to them, 
without making this fact well-known. I only learned how much it was costing 
them at the beginning of last year because I found their KickStarter campaign 
where they published the fact, to the funding development community, as part of 
the reason they were seeking funding support for development costs for what was 
going to be a free app.

The developer of The Seeing Eye App, on the other hand, used to charge $1500 
for its specialised GPS navigation apps and programs, with annual update fees 
that cost a couple hundred dollars. When they put out their LookAround app, 
they charged three times what other apps of its type do, and provided 
significantly less information in many areas, but they capitalised on the fact 
that they develop specialised GPS apps to help the blind. As I recall, this was 
in their App Store description. After much fan-fair touting the fact that The 
Seeing Eye was significantly funding their development costs, they put The 
Seeing Eye app out for a higher cost than any of the apps which place maps 
locally on the iPhone, for an app that requires using internet-based maps. 
Considering that these maps are provided free or very low cost by other 
companies, The Seeing Eye developer is banking on their name in the specialised 
field to charge as much as they can get away with (perception of gouging the 
market).

I personally do not believe the Seeing Eye is gouging the market that much, 
though I do believe their prices are significantly more than necessary for them 
to remain viable. However, I do not perceive their add-on algorithms as 
significant enough of a difference above the standard accessible GPS navigation 
app. I know this is partially do to the sour taste left in my mouth from the 
LookAround experience. 

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Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 2:35, "Peter Logan"  wrote:
> 
> It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to 
> be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community 
> doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out 
> with their model many on this list were outraged.
>  
> Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy 
> user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying 
> $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness 
> specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99 
> price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost 
> $19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather 
> seen a yearly subscription in that range.
>  
> Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an 
> awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.
>  
> Thanks for listening.
>  
>  
> Peter
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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
In this message, I will address the business reasons why the one-time fee does 
not work in the tiny market.

When one's customer base is a maximum of only one out of every one thousand 
customers, you are working with very small numbers.

In the normal one-time fee for continuous expenditure services, the company 
figures out its ongoing support costs. In the examples brought up in the 
message I am replying to, these costs include further development, streaming, 
and other related costs. In this case, the business knows what these costs will 
be, and knows how many customers it needs to bring on per month. As for the 
sports broadcasting apps, their model is an annual fee model. The subscriber 
pays each year for a season pass to listen to all games. Next year, the 
subscriber must purchase a new app, or must pay a new yearly fee (depending on 
the sports app).

Other apps sell advertising and make money based on the types of customers they 
have. Advertising companies pay good money to target their ads to specific 
market segments.

Apps that target large market segments receive decent amounts of money per 
month from new purchasers of their apps. In many cases, initial development and 
set-up costs may have been high, but continuing and support costs are 
significantly lower, so they can easily afford a low, one-time fee whilst 
providing continuing service. That said, many apps are switching to in-app 
time-based purchasing models, or selling new apps and stop supporting / 
updating the older version after one to two years, because they are finding the 
continuing support to be too much of a drain on their available resources.

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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 7:03, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes towards 
> supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio Extractor 
> and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo for life 
> with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I get 
> updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not sure 
> there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so 
> on.
> 
> I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
> combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at the 
> blind would generate.
> 
>> On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
>> I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
>> you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app.  
>> Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
>> people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
>> one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
>> in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
>> where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.
>>  
>> Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
>> blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
>> can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
>> person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
>> Tap Tap See is doing.
>>  
>> Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the type 
>> of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before 
>> getting a response from volunteers.
>>  
>> As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
>> free lunch".
>>  
>> Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
>> for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do hope 
>> they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
>> response we get from the Terks.
>>  
>> Steve
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Peter Logan
>> To: Vi Phone
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
>> Subject: Tap Tap See
>> 
>> It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to 
>> be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community 
>> doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out 
>> with their model many on this list were outraged.
>>  
>> Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy 
>> user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying 
>> $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness 
>> specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99 
>> price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost 
>> $19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather 
>> seen a yearly subscription in that range.
>>  
>> Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, apps specifically for the blind are targeting a tiny market.

When organisations try to get businesses to include features for those with low 
vision or blindness, they use misleading facts to inflate the numbers so 
businesses will hopefully take the needs of the blind into consideration and 
act on those needs.

The American Foundation for the Blind claims 15 million people in the US have 
vision problems, though only 1.6 million are blind. This claim caused me to 
think that total blindness was 1.6 million people, and legal low vision was 15 
million people. When I fully researched these numbers, what I learned was 
completely different, and paints a much starker picture about blindness.

Internationally, blindness refers to visual acuity of 3/60 (20/400 US 
terminology) in the better eye after corrections. Someone with this level of 
visual acuity can read large print, see facial expressions, and visually 
recognise most objects. Blind people at this level of visual acuity will most 
likely never, or almost never use this app. This level of vision is 0.5% of the 
world population, or one out of every 200 people.

It is estimated that approximately 0.1% to 0.2%, three hundred thousand to six 
hundred thousand, people in the US have almost no vision, and should be 
learning braille. The 0.2% includes light and shadow perception, and some gross 
object perception. It is somewhere between this level and the previous 
discussed level that the cut-off for people who will use this app is most 
likely located. In other words, somewhere between one out of every 200 people, 
and one out of every 1000 people would regularly use this app, and the number 
is much closer to the one of every one thousand people. For details on the 
other visual level, read on.

In the US only, legal blindness has been set at 20/200 (6/60 using 
international measurement terminology) in the better eye after corrections. 
This is approximately 2.5 million people in the US, or 0.6% of the world 
population. Approximately one out of every 166 people meets the criteria for US 
legal blindness. These numbers are so small that the AFB has chosen a different 
number to quote, and further confuse the issue.

Low vision covers vision where some impact on daily life can occur. In the US, 
visual acuity less than 20/60 (6/18 using international standards) after 
corrections, is the standard cut-off level for acquiring a driver's license. 
AFB, in there quote of 15 million Americans have vision loss that impacts daily 
functioning, is using this level of visual acuity. At 20%, one in five 
Americans has vision low enough that they cannot drive a car in most states.

 

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 11 Nov 2013, at 7:03, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes towards 
> supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD Audio Extractor 
> and now I get updates and support for life. You can purchase TiVo for life 
> with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my iPhone and now I get 
> updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB app, but I'm not sure 
> there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, upgrades, licensing fees and so 
> on.
> 
> I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
> combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at the 
> blind would generate.
> 
>> On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
>> I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
>> you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app.  
>> Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
>> people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
>> one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
>> in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
>> where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.
>>  
>> Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
>> blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
>> can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
>> person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
>> Tap Tap See is doing.
>>  
>> Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the type 
>> of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before 
>> getting a response from volunteers.
>>  
>> As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
>> free lunch".
>>  
>> Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
>> for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do hope 
>> they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
>> response we get from the Terks.
>>  
>> St

Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
There are plenty of business models where paying a one time fee goes 
towards supporting an ongoing service. I paid a one time fee for DVD 
Audio Extractor and now I get updates and support for life. You can 
purchase TiVo for life with a one time fee. I paid a one time fee for my 
iPhone and now I get updates to IOS for no charge. I don't use this MLB 
app, but I'm not sure there aren't ongoing costs, such as support, 
upgrades, licensing fees and so on.


I suspect that it's a combination of the high cost of image recognition 
combined with the relatively low volume of sales such an app targeted at 
the blind would generate.


On 11/10/2013 11:14 AM, Steve wrote:
I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free 
market, you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very 
useful app.  Only a few people seem to understand that the developer 
has to pay the people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  
Therefore, paying a one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a 
reasonable pricing model in this case.  It is not the same as paying 
for a season's access on MLB where there are no ongoing costs once you 
pay for the app.
Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking 
the blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As 
far as I can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of 
a sighted person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all 
comparable to what Tap Tap See is doing.
Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the 
type of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait 
before getting a response from volunteers.
As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing 
as a free lunch".
Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be 
paying for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally 
accurate.  I do hope they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox 
to help us tailor the response we get from the Terks.

Steve
- Original Message -
*From:* Peter Logan 
*To:* Vi Phone 
*Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
*Subject:* Tap Tap See

It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I 
consider to be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that 
this community doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the 
Seeing Eye GPS came out with their model many on this list were outraged.
Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a 
heavy user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you 
will be paying $120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest 
price of any blindness specific app.  I would have rather they just go 
with a $4.99 or even $6.99 price for the app and call it good.  My 
most used app, MLB At Bat only cost $19.99/year and I use that 
multiple times every day.  I would have rather seen a yearly 
subscription in that range.
Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is 
an awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

Thanks for listening.
Peter
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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-11-10 Thread Steve
I wish someone would put a stop to this insanity.  This is a free market, 
you folks have a choice.  Pay the price, or don't use a very useful app. 
Only a few people seem to understand that the developer has to pay the 
people that recognize the images on a per-image basis.  Therefore, paying a 
one=-time fee for the app has nothing to do with a reasonable pricing model 
in this case.  It is not the same as paying for a season's access on MLB 
where there are no ongoing costs once you pay for the app.

Also, I take issue with another comment about other developers taking the 
blind into consideration in their image recognition program.  As far as I 
can tell, that particular program requires the assistance of a sighted 
person to set up a database, so this is in no way at all comparable to what 
Tap Tap See is doing.

Of course, your other option is VizWiz, but it is all dependent on the type 
of quality response you get and how long you are willing to wait before 
getting a response from volunteers.

As economist Milton Friedman famously said "There ain't no such thing as a 
free lunch".

Personally, I don't use Tap Tap See that often, so I am going to be paying 
for 100 pictures because it is responsive and generally accurate.  I do hope 
they can add either some checkboxes or a textbox to help us tailor the 
response we get from the Terks.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Peter Logan
To: Vi Phone
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 8:35 AM
Subject: Tap Tap See


It saddens me that the developers have decided to move to what I consider to 
be price gouging, just my opinion.  It also amazes me that this community 
doesn’t seem to mind this time.  However, wen the Seeing Eye GPS came out 
with their model many on this list were outraged.

Am I in no way asking for something to be free, however if you are a heavy 
user of the product and go with the monthly subscription, you will be paying 
$120/year, as far as I know that would be the highest price of any blindness 
specific app.  I would have rather they just go with a $4.99 or even $6.99 
price for the app and call it good.  My most used app, MLB At Bat only cost 
$19.99/year and I use that multiple times every day.  I would have rather 
seen a yearly subscription in that range.

Hopefully they will reconsider the pricing model in the future.  It is an 
awesome product, however I believe it could be priced better.

Thanks for listening.


Peter

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RE: Tap Tap See and Cam find

2013-11-08 Thread Mary-Jo Lord
Hi,
 
I use both programs and find them both helpful in different situations.
Thanks for developing such good and helpful apps.
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See and Cam find


Hello, 

One thing that I'd encourage you to keep in mind is that TapTapSee was
designed with the visually impaired user in mind from the start. The
interface was designed to be 100% accessible, and we did our best to keep
the app clutter free. Though it is true that the same company developed both
CamFind and TapTapSee, their purposes are different. TapTapSee is designed
to identify objects, environments, and colors. CamFind is designed to
identify products and give you information on it, as well as places to
purchase it. Also, as you've mentioned Sieghard, CamFind compared to
TapTapSee is very cluttered with search results, images, information and
ads. Also, it's not 100% accessible. I do want to make you aware that even
though the apps were developed by the same company, their use cases are very
different.
Best Wishes,


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:33:32 AM UTC-8, Wayne gmail wrote: 

I have both apps and usually try Cam Find first.  However, there are times
when I use Tap Tap See if I don't like the Cam Find results or I just need a
quicker, simpler answer.

   I've always wondered how a crowd sourced app like TTS could happen for
free and I will certainly pay the 100 at a time price.  At my current usage
rate it will last months although I may actually end up using it a bit more.
Somehow I find it easier to ask for help if I am repaying the efforts of the
people I ask in some way even if it is a small way.

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com   [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.
 com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:45 AM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Tap Tap See and Camfind

 

Hello List,

 

Just I throw this out for those who are not wanting to pay for Tap Tap See.
The same developer, Image Searcher, also makes an app called Camfind. It
basically does the same thing as Tap Tap See except it is not made for the
blind and is meant to be used by sighted people to identify stuff, do
product and price comparisons etc.

 

Camfind is not quite as simple or uncluttered as Tap Tap See, but it is
accessible and it is still a free app at this point. I don't know if Image
Searcher will make it a paid app, I doubt, however, it would go on a
subscription model because there are other apps like this and while Camfind
is rated highly and apparently works better than others, I don't think most
people would want to pay a monthly fee for this. I could see the app going
to be a paid app down the road, maybe 99 Cents or $1.99, but as I said, it's
free now so maybe not a bad idea to grab it and add it to your arsenal of
image and object recognition artillery.

Here is the app store link:

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8
> app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: Tap Tap See and Cam find

2013-11-07 Thread SoonerAnnie
Ditto!

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: Lelia
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Tap Tap See and Cam find


Hello, I just want you to know, that you have developed a wonderful app. It 
has helped a lot of people in many ways. And we do appreciate it. Or at 
least I do. And as for cam find that is a good app too. I have gotten 
cooking instructions from that app. Kind of cool
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:59 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:


  Hello,


  One thing that I'd encourage you to keep in mind is that TapTapSee was 
designed with the visually impaired user in mind from the start. The 
interface was designed to be 100% accessible, and we did our best to keep 
the app clutter free. Though it is true that the same company developed both 
CamFind and TapTapSee, their purposes are different. TapTapSee is designed 
to identify objects, environments, and colors. CamFind is designed to 
identify products and give you information on it, as well as places to 
purchase it. Also, as you've mentioned Sieghard, CamFind compared to 
TapTapSee is very cluttered with search results, images, information and 
ads. Also, it's not 100% accessible. I do want to make you aware that even 
though the apps were developed by the same company, their use cases are very 
different.
  Best Wishes,



  On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:33:32 AM UTC-8, Wayne gmail wrote:
I have both apps and usually try Cam Find first.  However, there are 
times when I use Tap Tap See if I don’t like the Cam Find results or I just 
need a quicker, simpler answer.

   I’ve always wondered how a crowd sourced app like TTS could happen 
for free and I will certainly pay the 100 at a time price.  At my current 
usage rate it will last months although I may actually end up using it a bit 
more.  Somehow I find it easier to ask for help if I am repaying the efforts 
of the people I ask in some way even if it is a small way.



From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:45 AM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tap Tap See and Camfind



Hello List,



Just I throw this out for those who are not wanting to pay for Tap Tap 
See. The same developer, Image Searcher, also makes an app called Camfind. 
It basically does the same thing as Tap Tap See except it is not made for 
the blind and is meant to be used by sighted people to identify stuff, do 
product and price comparisons etc.



Camfind is not quite as simple or uncluttered as Tap Tap See, but it is 
accessible and it is still a free app at this point. I don’t know if Image 
Searcher will make it a paid app, I doubt, however, it would go on a 
subscription model because there are other apps like this and while Camfind 
is rated highly and apparently works better than others, I don’t think most 
people would want to pay a monthly fee for this. I could see the app going 
to be a paid app down the road, maybe 99 Cents or $1.99, but as I said, it’s 
free now so maybe not a bad idea to grab it and add it to your arsenal of 
image and object recognition artillery.

Here is the app store link:



https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8





Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Alan Paganelli
I think that this is a wonderful testimony to the success of Tap Tap See.  I 
knew shortly after starting to use this wonderful app that it could not remain 
free forever.  There may be other free apps that can do much of what TTS does 
however, if they gain the same popularity that TTS has enjoyed, they too will 
sooner or later be forced into the same situation TTS finds it's self in.  Done 
in by your own success.  What a testimonial heh!
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  - Original Message - 
  From: TapTapSee 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: Dawn Petty 
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 1:43 PM
  Subject: Re: tap tap see


  Alex,
  There is a 20 picture trial. After the 20 pictures are taken the subscription 
message will pop up.

  On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:43:58 PM UTC-8, Alex Hall wrote:
I completely understand your logic and doing this. My only question is 
this: as another Lister asked, what will you do for new subscribers? If someone 
downloads the app for free, is there anyway they can test a few pictures for 
free to see if it is something worth paying for?

On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:


  Hello,


  I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a 
subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were 
forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The subscriptions 
are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two options. Option 1) 
100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. 
The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. If you choose, for 
example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be prompted with a message 
to renew after that time period runs out. The costs of maintaining the app left 
us with two options, either shutting the app down completely or introducing it 
as subscription service.

  Best, 

  On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:

if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions 
about 
our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly 
before 
moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and 
vizwiz. 


-Original Message- 
From: Tim Emmons 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM 
To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
        Subject: Re: tap tap see 

I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or 
whatever, 
unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it 
shouldn't 
cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What 
can 
you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it 
for a 
few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take 
care. 
On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote: 

> That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
> 
> Alia 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  
wrote: 
> 
>> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her 
phone 
>> less than a month, she bought it for that reason. 
>> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me. 
>> So I won't be paying anything on it. 
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Re: Tap Tap See and Cam find

2013-11-07 Thread Lelia
Hello, I just want you to know, that you have developed a wonderful app. It has 
helped a lot of people in many ways. And we do appreciate it. Or at least I do. 
And as for cam find that is a good app too. I have gotten cooking instructions 
from that app. Kind of cool
Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:59 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> One thing that I'd encourage you to keep in mind is that TapTapSee was 
> designed with the visually impaired user in mind from the start. The 
> interface was designed to be 100% accessible, and we did our best to keep the 
> app clutter free. Though it is true that the same company developed both 
> CamFind and TapTapSee, their purposes are different. TapTapSee is designed to 
> identify objects, environments, and colors. CamFind is designed to identify 
> products and give you information on it, as well as places to purchase it. 
> Also, as you've mentioned Sieghard, CamFind compared to TapTapSee is very 
> cluttered with search results, images, information and ads. Also, it's not 
> 100% accessible. I do want to make you aware that even though the apps were 
> developed by the same company, their use cases are very different.
> Best Wishes,
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:33:32 AM UTC-8, Wayne gmail wrote:
>> I have both apps and usually try Cam Find first.  However, there are times 
>> when I use Tap Tap See if I don’t like the Cam Find results or I just need a 
>> quicker, simpler answer.
>> 
>>I’ve always wondered how a crowd sourced app like TTS could happen for 
>> free and I will certainly pay the 100 at a time price.  At my current usage 
>> rate it will last months although I may actually end up using it a bit more. 
>>  Somehow I find it easier to ask for help if I am repaying the efforts of 
>> the people I ask in some way even if it is a small way.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:45 AM
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Tap Tap See and Camfind
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hello List,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Just I throw this out for those who are not wanting to pay for Tap Tap See. 
>> The same developer, Image Searcher, also makes an app called Camfind. It 
>> basically does the same thing as Tap Tap See except it is not made for the 
>> blind and is meant to be used by sighted people to identify stuff, do 
>> product and price comparisons etc.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Camfind is not quite as simple or uncluttered as Tap Tap See, but it is 
>> accessible and it is still a free app at this point. I don’t know if Image 
>> Searcher will make it a paid app, I doubt, however, it would go on a 
>> subscription model because there are other apps like this and while Camfind 
>> is rated highly and apparently works better than others, I don’t think most 
>> people would want to pay a monthly fee for this. I could see the app going 
>> to be a paid app down the road, maybe 99 Cents or $1.99, but as I said, it’s 
>> free now so maybe not a bad idea to grab it and add it to your arsenal of 
>> image and object recognition artillery.
>> 
>> Here is the app store link:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
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Re: Tap Tap See and Cam find

2013-11-07 Thread TapTapSee
Hello,

One thing that I'd encourage you to keep in mind is that TapTapSee was 
designed with the visually impaired user in mind from the start. The 
interface was designed to be 100% accessible, and we did our best to keep 
the app clutter free. Though it is true that the same company developed 
both CamFind and TapTapSee, their purposes are different. TapTapSee is 
designed to identify objects, environments, and colors. CamFind is designed 
to identify products and give you information on it, as well as places to 
purchase it. Also, as you've mentioned Sieghard, CamFind compared to 
TapTapSee is very cluttered with search results, images, information and 
ads. Also, it's not 100% accessible. I do want to make you aware that even 
though the apps were developed by the same company, their use cases are 
very different.
Best Wishes,


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:33:32 AM UTC-8, Wayne gmail wrote:
>
> I have both apps and usually try Cam Find first.  However, there are times 
> when I use Tap Tap See if I don’t like the Cam Find results or I just need 
> a quicker, simpler answer.
>
>I’ve always wondered how a crowd sourced app like TTS could happen for 
> free and I will certainly pay the 100 at a time price.  At my current usage 
> rate it will last months although I may actually end up using it a bit 
> more.  Somehow I find it easier to ask for help if I am repaying the 
> efforts of the people I ask in some way even if it is a small way.
>
>  
>
> *From:* vip...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> vip...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:45 AM
> *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Tap Tap See and Camfind
>
>  
>
> Hello List,
>
>  
>
> Just I throw this out for those who are not wanting to pay for Tap Tap 
> See. The same developer, Image Searcher, also makes an app called Camfind. 
> It basically does the same thing as Tap Tap See except it is not made for 
> the blind and is meant to be used by sighted people to identify stuff, do 
> product and price comparisons etc.
>
>  
>
> Camfind is not quite as simple or uncluttered as Tap Tap See, but it is 
> accessible and it is still a free app at this point. I don’t know if Image 
> Searcher will make it a paid app, I doubt, however, it would go on a 
> subscription model because there are other apps like this and while Camfind 
> is rated highly and apparently works better than others, I don’t think most 
> people would want to pay a monthly fee for this. I could see the app going 
> to be a paid app down the road, maybe 99 Cents or $1.99, but as I said, 
> it’s free now so maybe not a bad idea to grab it and add it to your arsenal 
> of image and object recognition artillery.
>
> Here is the app store link:
>
>  
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Alex Hall
Okay, good, that makes sense. I do agree with others who are saying that there 
need to be more varied options for payment, though. Still, this is the first 
iteration of the new payment plan, so I'm sure there're a lot of details to 
still be worked out.
On Nov 7, 2013, at 4:43 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:

> Alex,
> There is a 20 picture trial. After the 20 pictures are taken the subscription 
> message will pop up.
> 
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:43:58 PM UTC-8, Alex Hall wrote:
> I completely understand your logic and doing this. My only question is this: 
> as another Lister asked, what will you do for new subscribers? If someone 
> downloads the app for free, is there anyway they can test a few pictures for 
> free to see if it is something worth paying for?
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a 
>> subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were 
>> forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The 
>> subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two 
>> options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of 
>> Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes 
>> account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you 
>> will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. 
>> The costs of maintaining the app left us with two options, either shutting 
>> the app down completely or introducing it as subscription service.
>> 
>> Best, 
>> 
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:
>> if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions about 
>> our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly before 
>> moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM 
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: tap tap see 
>> 
>> I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
>> newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, 
>> unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't 
>> cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can 
>> you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for a 
>> few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care. 
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote: 
>> 
>> > That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
>> > 
>> > Alia 
>> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her phone 
>> >> less than a month, she bought it for that reason. 
>> >> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me. 
>> >> So I won't be paying anything on it. 
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread TapTapSee
Alex,
There is a 20 picture trial. After the 20 pictures are taken the 
subscription message will pop up.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:43:58 PM UTC-8, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> I completely understand your logic and doing this. My only question is 
> this: as another Lister asked, what will you do for new subscribers? If 
> someone downloads the app for free, is there anyway they can test a few 
> pictures for free to see if it is something worth paying for?
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, TapTapSee > 
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a 
> subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were 
> forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The 
> subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two 
> options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of 
> Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple 
> iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, 
> then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period 
> runs out. The costs of maintaining the app left us with two options, either 
> shutting the app down completely or introducing it as subscription service.
>
> Best, 
>
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:
>
>> if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions 
>> about 
>> our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly 
>> before 
>> moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz. 
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Tim Emmons 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM 
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: tap tap see 
>>
>> I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
>> newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, 
>> unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't 
>> cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What 
>> can 
>> you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for 
>> a 
>> few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care. 
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote: 
>>
>> > That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
>> > 
>> > Alia 
>> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her 
>> phone 
>> >> less than a month, she bought it for that reason. 
>> >> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me. 
>> >> So I won't be paying anything on it. 
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Tristan
Something I'd really like to see is more individualized payment plans
for TapTapSee. I agree with Sieghard in the other thread, however I
believe the options should be more varied. For example, $1.99 for 25
pictures, $3.99 for 50, $5.99 for 75, $7.99 for 100. Not just 100
pictures or an unlimited 30 days -- offering a versatility in regarsd
to exactly how many pictures I want would  be appealing.

On 11/7/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> I completely understand your logic and doing this. My only question is this:
> as another Lister asked, what will you do for new subscribers? If someone
> downloads the app for free, is there anyway they can test a few pictures for
> free to see if it is something worth paying for?
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a
>> subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were
>> forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The
>> subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two
>> options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of
>> Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple
>> iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack,
>> then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period
>> runs out. The costs of maintaining the app left us with two options,
>> either shutting the app down completely or introducing it as subscription
>> service.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:
>> if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions
>> about
>> our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly
>> before
>> moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tim Emmons
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM
>> To: vip...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: tap tap see
>>
>> I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my
>> newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever,
>> unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't
>>
>> cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can
>>
>> you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for
>> a
>> few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care.
>> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote:
>>
>> > That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted.
>> >
>> > Alia
>> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her
>> >> phone
>> >> less than a month, she bought it for that reason.
>> >> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me.
>> >> So I won't be paying anything on it.
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Alex Hall
I completely understand your logic and doing this. My only question is this: as 
another Lister asked, what will you do for new subscribers? If someone 
downloads the app for free, is there anyway they can test a few pictures for 
free to see if it is something worth paying for?
On Nov 7, 2013, at 3:18 PM, TapTapSee  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a 
> subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were 
> forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The 
> subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two 
> options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited 
> Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account. 
> If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, then you will be 
> prompted with a message to renew after that time period runs out. The costs 
> of maintaining the app left us with two options, either shutting the app down 
> completely or introducing it as subscription service.
> 
> Best, 
> 
> On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:
> if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions about 
> our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly before 
> moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Emmons 
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM 
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: tap tap see 
> 
> I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
> newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, 
> unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't 
> cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can 
> you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for a 
> few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care. 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote: 
> 
> > That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
> > 
> > Alia 
> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote: 
> > 
> >> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her phone 
> >> less than a month, she bought it for that reason. 
> >> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me. 
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread TapTapSee
Hello,

I'd like to address the change in TapTapSee moving from a free app to a 
subscription service. Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were 
forced to change TapTapSee into a subscription based service. The 
subscriptions are being introduced over the next few days. We offer two 
options. Option 1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of 
Unlimited Pictures for $9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple 
iTunes account. If you choose, for example, the 1 month unlimited pack, 
then you will be prompted with a message to renew after that time period 
runs out. The costs of maintaining the app left us with two options, either 
shutting the app down completely or introducing it as subscription service.

Best, 

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 9:24:40 AM UTC-8, Dawn Petty wrote:

> if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions 
> about 
> our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly 
> before 
> moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz. 
>
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Tim Emmons 
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM 
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: tap tap see 
>
> I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
> newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, 
> unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't 
> cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can 
> you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for 
> a 
> few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care. 
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote: 
>
> > That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
> > 
> > Alia 
> > On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson 
> > > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> >> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her 
> phone 
> >> less than a month, she bought it for that reason. 
> >> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me. 
> >> So I won't be paying anything on it. 
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RE: Tap Tap See and Cam find

2013-11-07 Thread Wayne gmail
I have both apps and usually try Cam Find first.  However, there are times
when I use Tap Tap See if I don't like the Cam Find results or I just need a
quicker, simpler answer.

   I've always wondered how a crowd sourced app like TTS could happen for
free and I will certainly pay the 100 at a time price.  At my current usage
rate it will last months although I may actually end up using it a bit more.
Somehow I find it easier to ask for help if I am repaying the efforts of the
people I ask in some way even if it is a small way.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tap Tap See and Camfind

 

Hello List,

 

Just I throw this out for those who are not wanting to pay for Tap Tap See.
The same developer, Image Searcher, also makes an app called Camfind. It
basically does the same thing as Tap Tap See except it is not made for the
blind and is meant to be used by sighted people to identify stuff, do
product and price comparisons etc.

 

Camfind is not quite as simple or uncluttered as Tap Tap See, but it is
accessible and it is still a free app at this point. I don't know if Image
Searcher will make it a paid app, I doubt, however, it would go on a
subscription model because there are other apps like this and while Camfind
is rated highly and apparently works better than others, I don't think most
people would want to pay a monthly fee for this. I could see the app going
to be a paid app down the road, maybe 99 Cents or $1.99, but as I said, it's
free now so maybe not a bad idea to grab it and add it to your arsenal of
image and object recognition artillery.

Here is the app store link:

 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/camfind-search-your-camera/id595857716?mt=8

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Dawn Petty
if we have to pay there should be a way for us to ask direct questions about 
our pictures and wait until that picture gets answered satisfactorly before 
moving on to the next one.  don't forget there are also omoby and vizwiz.



-Original Message- 
From: Tim Emmons

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: tap tap see

I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my 
newborn son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, 
unless it is unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't 
cost to tell you what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can 
you do. I won't be using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for a 
few months loved it before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care.

On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote:


That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted.

Alia
On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her phone 
less than a month, she bought it for that reason.

I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me.
So I won't be paying anything on it.


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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread Tim Emmons
I'm disappointed in this. I use Tap tap see to identify pictures of my newborn 
son to post on facebook, it helps but not for $8.99 or whatever, unless it is 
unlimited and that's a one time price but still it shouldn't cost to tell you 
what a picture is, it's invaluable, but oh well. What can you do. I won't be 
using it for long if this is the case. I've had it for a few months loved it 
before now. Thanks guys for the heads up. Take care. 
On Nov 7, 2013, at 10:03 AM, alia robinson wrote:

> That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 
> 
> Alia
> On Nov 7, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
>> I have a friend who is a whiz with this app and she's only had her phone 
>> less than a month, she bought it for that reason.
>> I just don't get it.  It works and it doesn't, for me.
>> So I won't be paying anything on it.
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Re: tap tap see

2013-11-07 Thread alia robinson
That is majorly disappointing to me. It was cool while it lasted. 

Alia
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Re: Tap Tap See

2013-10-23 Thread Ann Byrne

Search for it under iPhone instead of iPad.
And remember to type in your search and don't believe it until you 
have double-tapped the search button.

At 08:15 PM 10/23/2013, you wrote:

Hi,
I am using my new IPad and I went into the apps store and put in tap 
tap see in the search box but it doesn't come up.  Any ideas on what 
I am doing wrong. Any help will be appreciated.


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Re: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
One future thing I'd like to see with tap tap see is  like vizwiz ask a 
question about what you are looking for in the picture, this way if a crowd 
source sees it they will know. Vizwiz is just too slow waiting on someone to 
respond.
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From: "Neal Ewers" 

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: tap tap see picture information



Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
twice.

Neal

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Of May and Noah
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
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Subject: tap tap see picture information

Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer 
too.


It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
discovered something weird.

Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which 
is

a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed 
shirt

and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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RE: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-22 Thread rubyalphonse
I find TapTapSee very handy. Mainly it identifies my money, and the plants
in the garden, thanks to RNIB who got this idea of find this App for us.
Ruby

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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:10 AM
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Subject: Re: tap tap see picture information

TapTap See uses a combination of crowd sourcing and an object 
recognition database. I assume if your picture keeps going to the object 
recognition database, and doesn't make it to the crowd, then you'd get 
the same response every time.Otherwise, you're right, it'll depend on 
who in the crowd is identifying the picture.

On 10/21/2013 02:26 PM, Donna wrote:
> TapTap See uses crowd sourcing, so each time a picture is taken, one has a
50% chance of getting a different description of an object, even though the
pictures were taken within a couple minutes of each other.
>
> I have an iPhone 5. I used TapTap See to identify paper money earlier
today. My pictures were taken consecutively within seconds of each other.
The first reply came back as a $1 dollar bill. Thesecond reply came back as
a $1 US dollar bill. Both were correct. I see this.  Alot.
>
> Donna
>
> On Oct 21, 2013, at 2:34 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>
>> Hmm, thought about that, but then thought it was wrong thinking since
every time we checked my shirt with my phone got the same thing, just colour
and printed text.
>>
>> Thanks for that answer though. Makes sense.
>>
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>
>> On 2013-10-21, at 2:31 PM, "Neal Ewers" 
wrote:
>>
>>> Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
>>> different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
>>> different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
>>> twice.
>>>
>>> Neal
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
>>> Of May and Noah
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: tap tap see picture information
>>>
>>> Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer
too.
>>>
>>> It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and
I
>>> discovered something weird.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone
which is
>>> a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my
bf's
>>> IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
>>> writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed
shirt
>>> and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.
>>>
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-21 Thread Christopher Chaltain
TapTap See uses a combination of crowd sourcing and an object 
recognition database. I assume if your picture keeps going to the object 
recognition database, and doesn't make it to the crowd, then you'd get 
the same response every time.Otherwise, you're right, it'll depend on 
who in the crowd is identifying the picture.


On 10/21/2013 02:26 PM, Donna wrote:

TapTap See uses crowd sourcing, so each time a picture is taken, one has a 50% 
chance of getting a different description of an object, even though the 
pictures were taken within a couple minutes of each other.

I have an iPhone 5. I used TapTap See to identify paper money earlier today. My 
pictures were taken consecutively within seconds of each other. The first reply 
came back as a $1 dollar bill. Thesecond reply came back as a $1 US dollar 
bill. Both were correct. I see this.  Alot.

Donna

On Oct 21, 2013, at 2:34 PM, May and Noah  wrote:


Hmm, thought about that, but then thought it was wrong thinking since every 
time we checked my shirt with my phone got the same thing, just colour and 
printed text.

Thanks for that answer though. Makes sense.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-10-21, at 2:31 PM, "Neal Ewers"  wrote:


Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
twice.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of May and Noah
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tap tap see picture information

Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer too.

It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
discovered something weird.

Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which is
a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed shirt
and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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Re: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-21 Thread Donna
TapTap See uses crowd sourcing, so each time a picture is taken, one has a 50% 
chance of getting a different description of an object, even though the 
pictures were taken within a couple minutes of each other. 

I have an iPhone 5. I used TapTap See to identify paper money earlier today. My 
pictures were taken consecutively within seconds of each other. The first reply 
came back as a $1 dollar bill. Thesecond reply came back as a $1 US dollar 
bill. Both were correct. I see this.  Alot. 

Donna

On Oct 21, 2013, at 2:34 PM, May and Noah  wrote:

> Hmm, thought about that, but then thought it was wrong thinking since every 
> time we checked my shirt with my phone got the same thing, just colour and 
> printed text.
> 
> Thanks for that answer though. Makes sense.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
> On 2013-10-21, at 2:31 PM, "Neal Ewers"  wrote:
> 
>> Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
>> different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
>> different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
>> twice.
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of May and Noah
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: tap tap see picture information
>> 
>> Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer too.
>> 
>> It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
>> discovered something weird.
>> 
>> Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which is
>> a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
>> IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
>> writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed shirt
>> and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
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Re: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-21 Thread May and Noah
Hmm, thought about that, but then thought it was wrong thinking since every 
time we checked my shirt with my phone got the same thing, just colour and 
printed text.

Thanks for that answer though. Makes sense.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-10-21, at 2:31 PM, "Neal Ewers"  wrote:

> Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
> different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
> different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
> twice.
> 
> Neal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of May and Noah
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: tap tap see picture information
> 
> Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer too.
> 
> It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
> discovered something weird.
> 
> Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which is
> a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
> IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
> writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed shirt
> and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.
> 
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
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RE: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-21 Thread Neal Ewers
Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
twice.

Neal

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tap tap see picture information

Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer too.

It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
discovered something weird.

Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which is
a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed shirt
and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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Re: Tap Tap See photos

2013-09-27 Thread TapTapSee
Hello Tom,

TapTapSee doesn't save any of the photographs in your device, unless you 
save the last identified photograph by clicking the "Share" button and 
selecting the "Save to Camera Roll" option. TapTapSee does not have a 
running history of identified photographs within the app.

Best Wishes,
Dmitriy

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:05:52 PM UTC-7, Tom wrote:
>
>  Does Tap tap see keep your photos that are taken with that app, or just 
> the last one for review?
>

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Re: Tap Tap See photos

2013-09-27 Thread Tom rash
I don't see them in my photos folder.  Is it storing them somewhere else?
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  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Tap Tap See photos


  I believe it keeps five. As you take more, the earlier ones are deleted.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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  On 27 Sep 2013, at 10:05, "Tom Rash"  wrote:


Does Tap tap see keep your photos that are taken with that app, or just the 
last one for review?

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