Re: today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Joe,

My last upgrade was from a 7 to a 13 mini.  You have an iPhone 11 chip
inside the SE 2020.  Personally, I would hold onto it until iOS
support ends, likely in 2025.  People get value out of their iPhones
through longevity.  They last a really long time.  We are still in the
design cycle of flat edges.  Remember, more than half of the benefit
of iPhones is iOS, its stability and all the features it offers.  You
will get iOS 17 with or without the iPhone 15.

Kelly



On 9/14/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I think people have to get away from the expectation that companies like
> Apple are going to release these amazing new devices once a year and in fact
> I think many people already are catching on to this. Of course the simple
> fact Apple is releasing new models every year and are doing their best to
> convince customers they have to upgrade goes against sustainability and
> environmental responsibility. Yes, they may be a leader in using renewable
> energy sources for their offices and putting recycled materials in their
> devices, but they still have to manufacture the stuff, transport it and the
> world has to deal with the electronic waste which is left behind. I think it
> would be a true show of commitment if Apple had announced that in order to
> cut back on all that is connected to this cycle, they are only going to
> release new iPhone, Apple Watch and iPad models every two years. I think
> this may result in a loss of revenue in the short term, but in the long term
> may not even matter that much because a lot of people nowadays only upgrade
> every 2 or 3 years or sometimes even longer. In fact, it would probably save
> Apple some money and they may sell a lot more of the phone models which came
> out after two years hence economies of scale would make a difference. It
> would also give them more time to truly come up with new models which are
> more different from the last. And now let's scale this approach up and apply
> it o other manufacturers of electronics who constantly release new models
> and even car manufacturers who release a new model each year. Companies and
> individuals alike want to do something good for the environment, but it
> stops when anybody has to maybe forgo buying something new or if something
> maybe costs a bit more. Another terrible example is all the fast fashion out
> there, some companies try to white wash this by pointing out that they use
> recycled material, but they continue to produce cheap junk which may look
> good if you wear it 2 or 3 times and after that it's designed to go into the
> trash; sort of like Jack Reacher who doesn't have a home and who instead of
> washing his T-Shirts, shirts and jeans throws them out when they are dirty
> and buys a new set and then he claims it is cheaper.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models
> had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it
> turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to
> compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience,
> are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents
> its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up
> with something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members
> will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced
> now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices
> on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro
> max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better
> and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.c

RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone X introduced Face Id and I think may have had the first OLED screen, 
but it was gone a year later and I have a feeling it was one of the less 
popular iPhones similar to the 5 and 7, 5S, 6S and 8 were the much better 
upgrades. I thought the same thing about the Apple Watch, but I think we'll 
upgrade from our series 5 to the new series 9 because I am not sure sure the 
Apple Watch 10 next year will be such a major update.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi. I got a 13 Pro last summer during some significant events for me.
It was a nice upgrade from my 11, but when my upgrade opportunity comes up 
again, I'm going to stick with the budget model (15, 16, or whatever it ends up 
being in the future). Having the people and object detection modes was nice, 
but I haven't used those at all. My circumstances have changed and I don't need 
the more advanced Pro model for my daily use. I will also hang onto my Series 6 
Apple Watch for another year. Next year will be the Series 10, and early 
indications in the rumor mill are that the Series 10 should be a good milestone 
for Apple, like the iPhone 10 was for the phones. I am anxiously awaiting the 
iOS 17 release, to see what's new in general, VoiceOver in particular, and 
enjoy the new software bells and whistles.

Best,
Wayne

On 9/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 
> models had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in 
> but, as it turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough 
> to compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live 
> audience, are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple 
> presents its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have 
> to come up with something to talk about between the presentations of the new 
> devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A 
> members will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am 
> convinced now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best 
> Smart devices on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 
> pro max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much 
> better and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an 
>> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both 
>> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>>
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
>>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
>>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired 
>>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
>>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
>>> Lightning adapter or a se

Re: today's Apple Event

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I got a 13 Pro last summer during some significant events for me.
It was a nice upgrade from my 11, but when my upgrade opportunity
comes up again, I'm going to stick with the budget model (15, 16, or
whatever it ends up being in the future). Having the people and object
detection modes was nice, but I haven't used those at all. My
circumstances have changed and I don't need the more advanced Pro
model for my daily use. I will also hang onto my Series 6 Apple Watch
for another year. Next year will be the Series 10, and early
indications in the rumor mill are that the Series 10 should be a good
milestone for Apple, like the iPhone 10 was for the phones. I am
anxiously awaiting the iOS 17 release, to see what's new in general,
VoiceOver in particular, and enjoy the new software bells and
whistles.

Best,
Wayne

On 9/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models
> had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it
> turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to
> compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience,
> are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents
> its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up
> with something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members
> will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced
> now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices
> on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro
> max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better
> and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an
>> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both
>> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>>
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired
>>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I
>>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired
>>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year,
>>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to
>>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the
>>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so
>>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of
>>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually
>>> ends up in the landfill as well.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subj

RE: today's Apple Event

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.

A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.

I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models had 
offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it turns 
out, no Touch ID, yet again.

While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to compel 
me to upgrade from my beloved 14.

The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience, 
are uninspiring and extremely jejune.

While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents 
its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up with 
something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.  Just my 
opinion of course.

I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members 
will have this service included in the normal membership fee.

I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.  
Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.

While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced now, 
more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices on the 
market.

I hope this finds you all doing well.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro max, 
and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better and going 
from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!

On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an 
> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both 
> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>
> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired 
>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the 
>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so 
>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of 
>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually 
>> ends up in the landfill as well.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Hi Sieghard,
>>
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>>
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C 
>> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting 
>> the action button?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Rya

Re: today's Apple Event

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13
pro max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much
better and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!

On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an iPhone 14
> Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both performance and
> battery life will be much better on the 15.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>
> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired
>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I
>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear
>> buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year,
>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to
>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the
>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so
>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of
>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually ends
>> up in the landfill as well.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Hi Sieghard,
>>
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>>
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C
>> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting
>> the action button?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
>> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sieghard et al,
>>
>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub
>> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m
>> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone
>> 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher
>> resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to
>> wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>
>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I
>> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I
>> just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits
>> for justifying such a purchase.
>> 
>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>  Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> And where are the days when at this tim

RE: today's Apple Event

[tai.tomasi8]

I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an iPhone 14 Pro. 
The performance is significantly improved, and both performance and battery 
life will be much better on the 15.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe

On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear 
> buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. 
> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the 
> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so 
> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of 
> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually ends up 
> in the landfill as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>
> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C 
> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting 
> the action button?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
> or taking a picture.
> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
> 386-383-5175
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Sieghard et al,
>
> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 
> 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher 
> resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to 
> wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>
> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I 
> just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits 
> for justifying such a purchase.
> 
> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
> - “I think and think for months and years.”
> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>  Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of 
> a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the 
> Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really 
> surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Julian]

Hi Joe,

I am definitely planning to go for the 15 Pro. I currently have the SE 2022. 
I'm looking forward to playing with lidar and goodies like that. I will miss 
the convenience of touch ID, but what can we do, Apple has decided this is the 
path forward to stick with Face ID.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
> 
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds
>> with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the
>> passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I
>> didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding
>> on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about
>> it.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning
>> adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use
>> them as often as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get
>> an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks
>> and then the adapter eventually ends up in the landfill as well.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>> 
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector
>> would be more economical, just less green.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the
>> action button?
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
>> taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect
>> a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
>> 386-383-5175
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
>> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sieghard et al,
>> 
>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all
>> about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide
>> if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only
>> benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully
>> improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a
>> photo of a document would help that.
>> 
>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
>> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have
>> doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying
>> such a purchase.
>> 
>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>> Albert Einstein
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a
>> major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone
>> list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised
>> that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
>> 
>> --
>

Re: today's Apple Event

[Joe Orozco]

Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe

On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds
> with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the
> passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I
> didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding
> on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about
> it.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning
> adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use
> them as often as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get
> an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks
> and then the adapter eventually ends up in the landfill as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>
> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector
> would be more economical, just less green.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the
> action button?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
> taking a picture.
> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect
> a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
> 386-383-5175
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Sieghard et al,
>
> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all
> about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide
> if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only
> benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully
> improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a
> photo of a document would help that.
>
> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have
> doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying
> such a purchase.
> 
> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
> - “I think and think for months and years.”
> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>  Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a
> major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone
> list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised
> that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
>
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alex Stone]

On 13 Sep 2023, at 23:31, Brent Harding  wrote:It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally don’t have anything else that uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I don’t want to carry two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever where I might need to charge those as well as my phone. I thought I heard the Apple Watch charger was supposed to charge those through magsafe, but I can never get it positioned right on the Airpods case to make it work.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:58 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: today's Apple Event The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Star GazerSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: today's Apple Event That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t want to Bluetooth?  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Matt WhiteSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Ryan,  I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories.  Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175  On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote:Sieghard et al, After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of 

RE: today's Apple Event

[Brent Harding]

It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases 
once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally don’t have anything else that 
uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I don’t want to carry 
two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever where I might need to 
charge those as well as my phone. I thought I heard the Apple Watch charger was 
supposed to charge those through magsafe, but I can never get it positioned 
right on the Airpods case to make it work.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a 
much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Christopher Chaltain]

This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds 
with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the passive 
noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I didn’t want to 
have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 
for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about it.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175



On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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Re: today's Apple Event

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Regarding the excitement not being there has to do with so much being leaked 
well before the announcement.  As a result announcements are not as big as they 
used to be since they leak so much out by the media.

Matthew



On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175




On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein



On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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386-383-5175




On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein



On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
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where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a 
much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One person who couldn't care less about "all that green stuff" as you call it 
is insignificant, but 100 Million or 1 Billion people not caring makes a big 
difference.
If one person threw their empty plastic water bottle out of the window driving 
along a highway it would be insignificant, but unfortunately thousands do it 
and the ditches along our roads are full of garbage. I live in a smal town in 
Northwestern British Columbia and every spring our local Christian Highschool 
cleans up a stretch of highway, just a few miles, but it's unbelievable how 
many garbage bags full of waste they collect each year and I just can't 
understand anybody who throws out even a scrap of paper. And then there are the 
moments when I walk along my typical route to work and kick a coffee cup 
somebody threw out of their window or maybe they dropped it walking along and 
it's 100 feet away from the public garbage bin. Humanity is far away from 
reducing waste and living a more sustainable lifestyle and unless a vast 
majority of people are prepared to do things which may cost extra or which may 
inconvenience them a little, we will never get there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

On 9/13/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of 
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> surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe so, but my post now ignited a fairly active and fun discussion.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Sieghard.
I think 2 things are happening here. First, as others have pointed out, the 
excitement factor just isn't there as it once was. Second, not as many people 
seem to post on mailing lists as often. I seem to recall a similar sentiment 
about no one talking about the keynote last year either. Times change, a lot of 
this discussion can be found on social media.

Scott

On 9/13/23, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get 
> maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected 
> supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 
> (USB‑C) Pro Cable
> (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store.
> Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional 
> cables, adapters, and other accessories.
>
> Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard et al,
>>>
>>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
>>> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
>>> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 
>>> instead.
>>>  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution 
>>> camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder 
>>> just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>>
>>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
>>> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess 
>>> I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any 
>>> benefits for justifying such a purchase.
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>>  Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day 
>>>> of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages 
>>>> from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? 
>>>> I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single 
>>>> one!
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But as with all things there will be cheaper and less expensive options in time 
and you really only need such a cable if you use a wired connection to a 
computer to transfer large files which most people don't do.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175



On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
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where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan, I absolutely agree that the camera performance plays a big role in their 
design and marketing because that is what people want.
The switch to USB-C is of course only a good thing, if I bought a new phone I 
wouldn't even have to bother about any cables because I have plenty of USB-C 
cables, chargers and batteries and in any case, I use wireless charging 95% of 
the time. I love the wired Earpods and they typically only last me a year or 
so, therefore I would simply buy one or two of the new USB-C wired Earpods. 
Anyways, despite of what I said earlier about being able to upgrade for a 
pretty favourable price if I traded in my iPhone 13 Pro, I most likely won't 
and instead we will probably get new Apple Watches. Initially I was thinking it 
might be better to wait until the 10th anniversary of the Apple Watch next 
year, but then again if you think back to the iPhone X, it was a fairly 
disappointing upgrade and they already have the new chips in this year's 9th 
Gen watches so I doubt whether there will be another new chip next year which 
will be that much better. If I had a 7th or 8th Gen watch maybe I'd think about 
it, but ours are fifth Generation, bought in 2019, so after 4 years I think 
we'd probably be quite happy with an upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Sieghard,

I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at 
least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. 
It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users 
can take amazing photos whether they are intelligent enough to understand 
anything about photography or heaven forbid even capable of using good language 
skills. And I expect the lack of excitement is indicative of a product which is 
reaching maturity as is the iPhone.

My favorite part of the event was the produced segment about Apple's 
environmental concerns and efforts featuring Octavia Spencer as Mother Nature. 
But then, that was more of a mini movie than a product announcement. I do 
appreciate the efforts Apple is making to be green and carbon neutral but I 
note that little has been said about all the cables and wired devices with 
lightning connectors that won't work with the new phones and their USB C ports. 
But that change wasn't a decision Apple made unilaterally or even voluntarily. 
I will note that the Apple Store does now offer a new adapter with lightning 
female and USB C male for those needing to use their wired lightning Earpods 
and other wired devices. I'll also note that this adapter costs $29 which is a 
big increase from the 3.5mm to lightning adapter introduced a few years back 
when they got rid of the headphone jack. That adapter was $9.95 as I recall.

I will be in no hurry to move from my iPhone 13 Mini to one of the iPhones 15 
or later.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, Both 15 Pro models have the action button. And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would be more economical, just less green. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action button?
 


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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.


2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.


Ryan Mann


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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:




Sieghard et al,

 


After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I
 surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.

 


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits
 for justifying such a purchase.

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- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max are able to transfer at faster speeds, it was 
mentioned during the keynote and I wouldn't be surprised that any speed 
reduction is software based and if that is true then Apple could decide at any 
time to remove that bottleneck.
As I said before, for me the regular phones don't hold much appeal any more, 
it's the Pro phones where you really get the best features if you like to have 
them and if money is a concern then you are better of looking for a good deal 
on an iPhone 14 Pro rather than to get a regular iPhone 15.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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With all of the filtering done beforehand, these events are just not that 
exciting/surprising anymore. Too yes overpriced, like who would want to spend 
out of pocket almost 2mxn for an iPhone 15, when they're cheaper options 
out there? These newer iPhones would be afordable via plans from the carrier, 
in which they help you by absorbing the cost of the device, via your monthly 
billings. Yes the 15 with its USB-C is tempting, but I was reading yesterday on 
MacRumors that even though these will be USBC, they'll charge at the speed of 
lightning! So what's the fuss about then using a newer standard port, but with 
the old one's speeds?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 13 sep 2023, a la(s) 1:33 a.m., Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> escribió:

Overpriced and nothing really that exciting.

Seems to be a yearly occurrence. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
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Hello Sieghard, and list.



Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?



I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once 
was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing 
grand, I don't think.



I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace 
it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a 
bit.

I have the 12 mini.



Thank you,



Terri
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan, if the adapter costs $29 I would just buy the new wired Earpods with 
USB-C connector which Apple said during the presentation they will offer and I 
would imagine that they are also $29 and then you have a new headset for the 
same price and you don't have to deal with an adapter.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

Thank you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Star Gazer,

If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, 
you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available 
at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, 
I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those 
to USB C.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


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mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Of course there is, they talked about it during the event as it is the only 
phone which gets the new action button and the periscope zoom lense.

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There is even no iphone15 pro max?

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Kimberly Gardner
Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Flor Lynch]

There is. Apple talked about it, and there are articles you can find on 
Appple.com about it.



On 9/13/2023 9:56 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:

There is even no iphone15 pro max?

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Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
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Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple watch and 
couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I care about the 
environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these 
new devices.

Kim

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As for actually buying a new phone that all depends on what you have now. In 
the last few years I usually purchased last year's Pro phone because I find 
more and  more that you end up getting a better phone for the same or even less 
money. Consider last year's iPhone 14 and the 2021 iPhone 13 Pro. The iPhone 14 
last year did not get the A16 processor, only the 14 Pro and Pro Max got the 
A16 and again this year only the 15 Pro and Pro Max get the A17 chip. Last 
year's iPhone 14 still had the A15 chip which is the same as the iPhone 13 Pro 
and this year's iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have the A16 chip, same as what the 
iPhone 14 Pro had last year.
I haven't checked in detail if there is a change regarding LiDAR, it used to be 
that only Pro phones had the LiDAR sensor so this means if you bought an iPhone 
14 or 14 Plus last year you would get a phone with the same chip as an iPhone 
13 Pro, but you wouldn't have LiDAR whereas the iPhone 13 Pro has LiDAR which 
allows for features like door detection and so on.
We bought our iPhone 13 Pro when during
Cyber Monday last year my carrier, Telus in Canada, offered them for $18 a 
month for 2 years with no downpayment and I think the buy-out price after two 
years if we wanted to keep the phones is $390. This means I will pay $432 over 
two years and then if I buy out the phone for $390 I would have paid a total of 
$822 for an iPhone 13 Pro. Keep in mind this is in Canadian Dollars and we have 
the 256 Gb model which I believe was $1,129 here in Canada so getting it for 
$300 less is not too bad of a deal.
Right now I checked and if I used the Apple trade-in program, they would give 
me $615 Canadian for my iPhone 13 Pro and I'd almost may have to consider it 
because if I pay out the balance of what I owe it means I pay $822 and get $615 
so the phone would have cost me $207. By the time I would get my new iPhone I 
would have had my iPhone 13 Pro for 10 months so essentially it would have cost 
me $20 a months and my purchase price for an iPhone 15 Pro 128 Gb which is 
plenty big enough for my purposes would be $834 after the trade in, here in 
Canada the full purchase price is $1,449. I would then have a phone with the 
new A17 chip which uses the new 3 Nanometer architecture and has USB-C and I 
assume I'd probably be quite happy with that phone for the next 3-4 years.
But we are also thinking of new Apple Watches since we have the Apple Watch 5th 
Gen which is now 4 years old so I think upgrading to a 9th Gen Apple Watch with 
the new chip would be most likely a bigger upgrade for us than upgrading from 
an iPhone 13 Pro to a 15 Pro; I also like the idea of the new gestures like 
pressing 2 fingers together for answering a call etc. The 45mm Aluminum Watch 
with Cellular I think was $769 here in Canada and I assume we could still get 
$200 or $250 for our Apple Watch 5. Just have to run all the numbers and see 
what we want to do; if we do only 1 device then definitely the watch this year, 
also planning a trip to the Philippines to visit my wife's family and for our 
10th anniversary since we got married there so we'll see.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:58 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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RE: today's Apple Event

[davycuppens]

There is even no iphone15 pro max?

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Kimberly Gardner
Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

Star Gazer, 

 

If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, 
you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available 
at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, 
I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those 
to USB C. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 






On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein






On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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Re: today's Apple Event

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Star Gazer, If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those to USB C. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:    That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t want to Bluetooth?  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt WhiteSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Ryan,  I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories.  Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175 On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote:Sieghard et al, After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert EinsteinOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web vis

RE: today's Apple Event

[tai.tomasi8]

I believe we can plug in USB C headphones

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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[Christopher Chaltain]

There are already USB-C headphones out there since other manufacturers dropped 
the audio jack and didn’t use the proprietary Lightning connector. I think I’ve 
also read that Apple, and I’m sure others, have a Lightning to USB-C adapter.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Matt 
White
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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[Star Gazer]

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 





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Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein





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RE: today's Apple Event

[Christopher Chaltain]

Since we're tossing out our opinions here, I do care about the work Apple and 
others are doing with carbon footprints and green initiatives. There's only so 
much individuals can do, so companies like Apple need to be a big part of the 
solution. Since this feels a little off topic to me, I won't espouse my 
feelings on our responsibilities as custodians of our planets and the legacy we 
leave to our children.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
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I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

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Gardner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I
can say that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in
getting an apple watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon
neutral stuff. Of course I care about the environment, but none of
that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these new
devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

To get USB 3 speeds, I believe a different, more expensive cable is required. But I don't use a Mac, am unfamiliar with the speed differences between USB 2 and 3, so am not in a position to comment further. A standard USB C cable can certainly be used with the iPhone 15 models since they have the standard sized USB C port, but another cable is needed with the Pro models to get maximum transfer speed. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Matt White  wrote:It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Kimberly Gardner]

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I
can say that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in
getting an apple watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon
neutral stuff. Of course I care about the environment, but none of
that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these new
devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Scott Davert]

Sieghard.
I think 2 things are happening here. First, as others have pointed
out, the excitement factor just isn't there as it once was. Second,
not as many people seem to post on mailing lists as often. I seem to
recall a similar sentiment about no one talking about the keynote last
year either. Times change, a lot of this discussion can be found on
social media.

Scott

On 9/13/23, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum
> speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported
> devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable
> (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store.
> Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables,
> adapters, and other accessories.
>
> Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
>> taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard et al,
>>>
>>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is
>>> all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to
>>> decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.
>>>  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera
>>> to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much
>>> more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>>
>>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
>>> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just
>>> have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for
>>> justifying such a purchase.
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>>  Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
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Re: today's Apple Event

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Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Re: today's Apple Event

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Hi Sieghard, I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users can take amazing photos whether they are intelligent enough to understand anything about photography or heaven forbid even capable of using good language skills. And I expect the lack of excitement is indicative of a product which is reaching maturity as is the iPhone. My favorite part of the event was the produced segment about Apple's environmental concerns and efforts featuring Octavia Spencer as Mother Nature. But then, that was more of a mini movie than a product announcement. I do appreciate the efforts Apple is making to be green and carbon neutral but I note that little has been said about all the cables and wired devices with lightning connectors that won't work with the new phones and their USB C ports. But that change wasn't a decision Apple made unilaterally or even voluntarily. I will note that the Apple Store does now offer a new adapter with lightning female and USB C male for those needing to use their wired lightning Earpods and other wired devices. I'll also note that this adapter costs $29 which is a big increase from the 3.5mm to lightning adapter introduced a few years back when they got rid of the headphone jack. That adapter was $9.95 as I recall. I will be in no hurry to move from my iPhone 13 Mini to one of the iPhones 15 or later. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







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Re: today's Apple Event

[Gerardo Corripio]

With all of the filtering done beforehand, these events are just not that exciting/surprising anymore. Too yes overpriced, like who would want to spend out of pocket almost 2mxn for an iPhone 15, when they're cheaper options out there? These newer iPhones would be afordable via plans from the carrier, in which they help you by absorbing the cost of the device, via your monthly billings. Yes the 15 with its USB-C is tempting, but I was reading yesterday on MacRumors that even though these will be USBC, they'll charge at the speed of lightning! So what's the fuss about then using a newer standard port, but with the old one's speeds?GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 13 sep 2023, a la(s) 1:33 a.m., Marco Curralejo  escribió:Overpriced and nothing really that exciting. Seems to be a yearly occurrence.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri StimmelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you really all that surprised?Or, were you being sarcastic? I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing grand, I don't think. I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a bit.I have the 12 mini. Thank you, TerriOn 9/13/2023 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB8922DFC5E5D24DF55486D8A0A8F0A%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: today's Apple Event

[Ryan Mann]

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Bill.  I just upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.  I read the rumors 
about the new iPhones and decided the 14 Pro would be enough of an 
improvement from my old phone.



It's faster, naturally, and the updated LiDar is neat, but otherwise, it 
wasn't a a huge step up from the 12 Pro phone.



The only major difference with the 15 models would be no lightening 
cable.  Even with the 14 Pro, the cable has a lightening tip at one end 
and a USB-C tip at the other end.  I had to get a charging brick for it 
at Verizon because the older ones with the larger USB ports wouldn't work.



Oh, and that was the other deal breaker. . . I got a substantial amount 
for trading in my old phone, so my current bill is reduced by about $30 
a month.



If you are going pre-paid, it won't matter, but it is something to add 
to the mix.



Lisa


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On 9/13/2023 3:57 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 
14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher 
resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to 
wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I 
just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits 
for justifying such a purchase.


- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
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Re: today's Apple Event

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Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

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> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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Re: today's Apple Event

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Oh, how people do love to whine!On 13 Sep 2023, at 08:33, Marco Curralejo  wrote:Overpriced and nothing really that exciting. Seems to be a yearly occurrence.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri StimmelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you really all that surprised?Or, were you being sarcastic? I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing grand, I don't think. I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a bit.I have the 12 mini. Thank you, TerriOn 9/13/2023 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB8922DFC5E5D24DF55486D8A0A8F0A%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: today's Apple Event

[Marco Curralejo]

Overpriced and nothing really that exciting.

  

Seems to be a yearly occurrence. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
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Hello Sieghard, and list.

  

Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?

  

I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once 
was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing 
grand, I don't think.

  

I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace 
it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a 
bit.

I have the 12 mini.

  

Thank you,

  

Terri

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Sieghard, and list.


Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?


I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there 
once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. 
But nothing grand, I don't think.



I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just 
replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this 
phone quite a bit.


I have the 12 mini.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: today's apple event.

[Robert stigile]

10 am pacific time

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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 8:06 AM, dacia.l...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi, what time is the event?
> Thanks,
> Dacia
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:07 AM, matthew dyer  
>> wrote:
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>> Hi,  I have book marked it n my favorites.  Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:20 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>>> wrote:
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>>> hi! all,
>>> if you like to watch today's appls event about IPhone and other products's 
>>> anouncement! you can go to this link.
>>> it would likely announce the New Iphones, new apple watch and apple tv as 
>>> well.
>>> and it also  may talk about the home pot.
>>> 
>>> here is the link:
>>> 
>>> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/
>>> 
>>> Ming
>>> 
>>> msn/window live messenger
>>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
>>> skype:
>>> chungchiming9950
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>>> face book:
>>> http://www.facebook.com/mingcm1
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RE: today's apple event.

[Rob]

The event begins at 10:00 AM Pacific time - 1:00 PM Eastern time in the US.

The link provided in the message below requires you to use an Apple device or 
Windows Edge browser from Windows 10.

Rob

-Original Message-
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dacia.l...@gmail.com
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Hi, what time is the event?
Thanks,
Dacia

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> Hi,  I have book marked it n my favorites.  Thanks.
> 
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Re: today's apple event.

[dacia . luck]

Hi, what time is the event?
Thanks,
Dacia

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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:07 AM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
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> Hi,  I have book marked it n my favorites.  Thanks.
> 
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>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:20 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi! all,
>> if you like to watch today's appls event about IPhone and other products's 
>> anouncement! you can go to this link.
>> it would likely announce the New Iphones, new apple watch and apple tv as 
>> well.
>> and it also  may talk about the home pot.
>> 
>> here is the link:
>> 
>> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/
>> 
>> Ming
>> 
>> msn/window live messenger
>> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
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>> chungchiming9950
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Re: today's apple event.

[matthew dyer]

Hi,  I have book marked it n my favorites.  Thanks.


> On Sep 12, 2017, at 5:20 AM, 'Ming' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
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> if you like to watch today's appls event about IPhone and other products's 
> anouncement! you can go to this link.
> it would likely announce the New Iphones, new apple watch and apple tv as 
> well.
> and it also  may talk about the home pot.
> 
> here is the link:
> 
> https://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2017/
> 
> Ming
> 
> msn/window live messenger
> chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com
> skype:
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