RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Your best excuse is simply that you feel it's time to upgrade and that you want 
to do it. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 3:48 PM
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Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

Darn, I was hoping IOS 18 wouldn't support the iPhone 11 so I'd have an excuse 
to upgrade my iPhone. I guess I'll have to work on coming up with another 
reason! 😉

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility:

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
the A10 Fusion and will reportedly support iPadOS 18.

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Can anyone tell me if the Ipad 8th generation will support the next ipad os 18? 
Thanks.


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RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[Carolyn Arnold]

Christopher, you probably would get a better trade in if you upgrade from 11 
now, rather than when it is no longer supported. So there, you have an excuse. 
You're welcome, LOL! 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 6:48 PM
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Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

Darn, I was hoping IOS 18 wouldn't support the iPhone 11 so I'd have an excuse 
to upgrade my iPhone. I guess I'll have to work on coming up with another 
reason! 😉

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility:

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
the A10 Fusion and will reportedly support iPadOS 18.

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Can anyone tell me if the Ipad 8th generation will support the next ipad os 18? 
Thanks.


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RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[Christopher Chaltain]

Darn, I was hoping IOS 18 wouldn't support the iPhone 11 so I'd have an excuse 
to upgrade my iPhone. I guess I'll have to work on coming up with another 
reason! 😉

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility:

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
the A10 Fusion and will reportedly support iPadOS 18.

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Can anyone tell me if the Ipad 8th generation will support the next ipad os 18? 
Thanks.


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RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[llumpkin]

Thank you very much.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility: 

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
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Can anyone tell me if the Ipad 8th generation will support the next ipad os 18? 
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RE: ipad 8th generation and IOS 18

[Richard Turner]

At this point, it is all rumor, but here is what I found after a quick search.
iOS 18 device compatibility
Today’s rumor comes after an initial rumor last month offered our first look at 
iOS 18 device compatibility. At the time, however, we cautioned skepticism 
because the rumor was posted and quickly deleted, suggesting the source wasn’t 
confident in their claims.

In what seems to be a more concrete rumor today, shared on social media by a 
private account with a strong track record, here’s which devices will be 
compatible with iOS 18:

iPhone 15
iPhone 15 Plus
iPhone 15 Pro
iPhone 15 Pro Max
iPhone 14
iPhone 14 Plus
iPhone 14 Pro
iPhone 14 Pro Max
iPhone 13
iPhone 13 mini
iPhone 13 Pro
iPhone 13 Pro Max
iPhone 12
iPhone 12 mini
iPhone 12 Pro
iPhone 12 Pro Max
iPhone 11
iPhone 11 Pro
iPhone 11 Pro Max
iPhone XS
iPhone XS Max
iPhone XR
iPhone SE (2nd generation)
iPhone SE (3rd generation)
For those keeping track at home, this means that iOS 18 will be compatible with 
all the same devices as iOS 17.

iPadOS 18 compatibility
For iPad users, the account says that iPadOS 18 will drop support for the 
following devices:

iPad (6th generation)
iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd generation)
iPad Pro (10.5-inch)
Other than those changes, iPadOS 18 will be compatible with the same devices as 
iPadOS 17. This includes the iPad (7th generation), which was first introduced 
in 2019 and is powered by the A10 Fusion chip.

iPadOS 18 compatibility: 

iPad: 2019 and later
iPad mini: 2019 and later
iPad Air: 2019 and later
iPad Pro 2018 and later
This is a bit odd. The iPad Pro (10.5-inch) and iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (2nd 
generation) are both powered by the A10X Fusion processor, and will reportedly 
be dropped by iPadOS 18. The iPad (7th generation), meanwhile, is powered by 
the A10 Fusion and will reportedly support iPadOS 18.

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RE: IPad & moving quickly between Split view and regular view?

[matthew dyer]

Gera,

Are you referring to containers?  VO has an opsion to move between containers 
but not sure if it is in the roater by default or not.  If not containers.  I 
am not sure about split screen as I never use it.

Matthew



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I recently got myself an IPad 9th Generation with which I’m having a blast! 
Using it as a replacement victor Reader Stream on hyperdrive! But I’m curious 
if as we Voiceover users can use the features of split screen, in which you can 
have an app on half the screen and another taking up the over half? And what 
gesture is there to quickly invoke this feature, and once done with it, return 
the Ipad to reular view? I’ve tried Youtube in searching for this info, but I 
can’t find any sort of VoiceOver-orientated podcast n how to work this feature. 
Thanks in advance for info on this matter.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: ipad and passwords

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

What I usually do is copy and paste from 1-password if it is not in my iCloud 
Keychain. Usually, VO will ask you if you want to use your username and you 
just use Face ID/Touch ID and it is entered. If not, copy and paste is my 
friend. There may be another easier way to do this but this is how I do it.

Jen
Jenn and Kumi   

> On May 17, 2022, at 11:26 AM, juanhernande...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hi All,
>  
> I am wondering is there a way to when logging in to access the passwords 
> option to auto fill passwords from my 1password with a physical keyboard?
>  
> I have an iPad Pro 11” latest generation with the apple smart folio keyboard 
> case.
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Re: iPad in portrait or landscape

[Matthew Janusauskas]

Landscape orientation on an iPad allows for a nearly full-size onscreen 
keyboard. It’s also more conducive to running two apps side by side at the same 
time. 

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> others. With the iPhone I've always preferred locking orientation to 
> portrait, and haven't found a reason to use landscape. I'm open to other 
> viewpoints on orientation preferences and advantages for the iPhone, but I'm 
> especially wondering if there are sound reasons to keep the iPad in landscape 
> orientation, or use it that way in some circumstances. So I would appreciate 
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Re: iPad in portrait or landscape

[Deb Cook Lewis]

I'd agree with tom's comments. My low vision students have generally
liked the landscape mode. But as a VO user, i've never seen any
advantage for it. The one exception might be in any browser, I like
the way it lays things out in landscape mode for the browser. but
otherwise, I see no real advantage. And I'm also looking forward to
hearing a different opinion on this.

On 1/7/22, Thom Spittle  wrote:
> I Dean,
> The only observations I have are more with your students more than you. If
> your student is low vision, they may like the larger size of youtube videos
> when in landscape mode. Otherwise, the only difference I see is that the
> keyboard has larger keys in landscape mode, which some user like better.
>
> Looking forward to hearig other people’s opinions.
>
> Thom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>> 
>> I have acquired an iPad, mostly for learning it so as to be able to
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>> to portrait, and haven't found a reason to use landscape. I'm open to
>> other viewpoints on orientation preferences and advantages for the iPhone,
>> but I'm especially wondering if there are sound reasons to keep the iPad
>> in landscape orientation, or use it that way in some circumstances. So I
>> would appreciate any experienced views..
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Re: iPad in portrait or landscape

[Thom Spittle]

I Dean, 
The only observations I have are more with your students more than you. If your 
student is low vision, they may like the larger size of youtube videos when in 
landscape mode. Otherwise, the only difference I see is that the keyboard has 
larger keys in landscape mode, which some user like better.

Looking forward to hearig other people’s opinions.

Thom

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iPad Question?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Yes, I don’t think I ever use containers when navigating on my phone, but I use 
them a lot for getting around the iPad.  Before I got in the habit of using 
them, I found the iPad navigation very cumbersome.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 1:20 AM
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And the dock is also its own container and as Richard said, especially on the 
iPad I think using containers is very important and necessary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




Richard
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
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Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Containers are areas on the screen, on an iPad the left and right windows are 
separate containers as is the dock and the main home screen. I am pretty sure 
by default containers is in the rotor, just go to it and then flick left or 
right.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: October 18, 2021 2:42 PM
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Hi Pam,

I actually have the new iPad mini on order. Could you explain what containers 
are and how you would navigate them. Do you swipe left and right the same as 
you do with other elements? Thanks for the assist.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
 wrote:

I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that.  
My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.

I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.

Pam


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Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




Richard
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Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And the dock is also its own container and as Richard said, especially on the 
iPad I think using containers is very important and necessary.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: October 18, 2021 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry Richard,
You think wrong,

The layout on the iPads is the same as on the iPhone,

But on the ipads you get a few extra items now on the dock / frequently used
But otherwise the same.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 19 October 2021 9:14 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
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Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Hi, on my ipad mini 5th gen, my dock is on the bottom of the screen.

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

 

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.

So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.

 

 

 

 

Richard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

 

Thanks much, Richard.

May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?

Thanks!

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: iPad Question?

 

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen. 

Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

 

 

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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I have iPad Mini.

This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?

Thanks!

 

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Re: iPad Question?

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Pam,

I actually have the new iPad mini on order. Could you explain what containers 
are and how you would navigate them. Do you swipe left and right the same as 
you do with other elements? Thanks for the assist.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 18, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that. 
>  My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.
>  
> I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.
>  
> Pam
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
> So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on 
> the iPad.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPad Question?
>  
> Thanks much, Richard.
> May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
> Thanks!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad Question?
>  
> When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
> there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
> Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
> screen and you should find what you want.
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> (Sent with my blue iPhone 13 Pro)
>  
> 
> On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, Group.
> I have iPad Mini.
> This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
> accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
> of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
> because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
> Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
> anything selected in Settings in iPad?
> Thanks!
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RE: iPad Question?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

I have an iPad mini.  It’s not the very newest one but the one prior to that.  
My dock is actually at the bottom of the screen, like my iPhone.

I do find that navigating by containers can really be helpful on the iPad.

Pam


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 4:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




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Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


Richard
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[Richard Turner]

I think the iPad dock is usually at the top.
So, most things you think of on an iPhone at the bottom, are at the top on the 
iPad.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Question?

Thanks much, Richard.
May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?
Thanks!


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: iPad Question?

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.


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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil 
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Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Question?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Richard.

May I also know the dock location in iPad, please?

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2021 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Question?

 

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen. 

Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.

 

 

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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:

 

Hi, Group.

I have iPad Mini.

This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?

Thanks!

 

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Re: iPad Question?

[Richard Turner]

When in settings, the main settings list is on the left, whatever is selected 
there, will show up on the right hapf of the screen.
Navigating by containers may help, but just touch on the right half of the 
screen and you should find what you want.



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On Oct 18, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Fazil  wrote:


Hi, Group.
I have iPad Mini.
This morning, I asked Siri to go to Accessibility in Settings and she opened 
accessibility. I turned Audio description on there and then I ended being out 
of that Accessibility settings. I tried to go back there but I could not 
because Voiceover kept saying selected with Accessibility and VO did not open 
Accessibility for me I kept it double-tapping though. So, can I not open 
anything selected in Settings in iPad?
Thanks!


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RE: iPad mini with thumb drives, useful for anything besides photos?

[Richard Turner]

HI Mary,

Well, on my SE 2020, the adapter works great for Voice Dream Reader for 
anything you want.  Obviously, Bookshare is easiest gotten directly.
But, if you put zipped audio files, word files, mp3 files, anything VDR will 
read, you can download them from the USB Drive by using his File Browser and 
making sure to start at the top of the structure so you have the list of 
locations rather than being in the last one you had used.  It is nice that it 
remembers though, so once you download from a thumb drive, the next time you 
select File Browser from the Add menu, you are on your thumb drive.

I've heard you can do this with BARD from Dropbox, but I have no idea.  I tried 
downloading a BARD book onto the drive, but again, it will be far easier to do 
that through the app.  Especially now that their library is on the cloud.  
Downloads are extremely fast.

I wouldn't think Audible would ever be that flexible.

Which Mini do you have now?




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I am intrigued by the most recently released iPad mini, but I am not intrigued 
by the fact that the entry-level model has just 64 GB, and then you have to pay 
a whopping $150 more to get  256 GB. No 128, a blatant and obvious upsell if 
ever there was one.

I know you can access thumb drives with the Files app. But I haven't heard of 
any of the apps that we would be more likely to use, such as voice dream, 
audible, Bard mobile, Ha ha ha, actually being able to take advantage of such a 
facility. I would like to be able to download things right onto a thumb drive. 
I am pretty sure that's not possible. But I would like to be wrong. At the very 
least, if there were a way to download a bunch of stuff onto a thumb drive via 
a PC and then easily transfer that on to the iPad as necessary, that would 
work. But of course the other way would be more convenient. Does anybody have 
any experience here?
Mary

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Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Tom Cramer]

Hello everybody,
I owe everyone on this list a huge apology. My question showed just
how dumb I was. The iPad I bought was indeed an iPad 8th generation
and not the iPad Air. However, if I had paid closer attention, I would
have seen the Home button where I had always expected it to be. I
don't know how I overlooked it, but I did. And, with a few questions
answered, I was able to get my iPad set up. Now, I can use my phone
for some things and not completely wear it out as my universal device.
I will pay closer attention before I ask my questions, because all of
you are very helpful, and you should not have to put up with a
careless mistake like mine. Thank you for being willing.
I will be asking another question, but this is definitely one I can't
seem to figure out.
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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes that's what I thought,

But the air 4 doesn't have an actual home button that we know.

It has a power button with touch id built in.

Which is what I'm thinking it might be 
Or if it's not a new product then one of the older 10.5 inch iPad pro 
Which wont have a touch button.

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Strange. My ipad 8th ;neraton has a home button and looks almost like my 
original ipad years ago.
 I think I cabled up mine to itunes and got it set up that way but needed no 
assistance.


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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:10 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Richard Turner]

Apparently this was not a new iPad and so someone had disabled the 
accessibility shortcut or when he pressed the power button/ side switch/top 
switch, whatever it is on that unit, three times nothing happens.
Hence the iTunes solution which can be done independent of any sighted 
assistance.



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On Aug 31, 2021, at 1:19 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:


Well that’s pretty interesting if it’s an iPad 8 gen and you can’t enable vo 
without sighted assistance.

No Ipad I’ve own have I ever needed sighted assistance to set it up  and I 
would think the same here.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 4:11 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

>From Tom's description; using a computer with iTunes will be the only way to 
>set it up without sighted assistance.

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[llumpkin]

Strange. My ipad 8th ;neraton has a home button and looks almost like my 
original ipad years ago.
 I think I cabled up mine to itunes and got it set up that way but needed no 
assistance.


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Cramer
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 9:10 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well that’s pretty interesting if it’s an iPad 8 gen and you can’t enable vo 
without sighted assistance.

No Ipad I’ve own have I ever needed sighted assistance to set it up  and I 
would think the same here.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 4:11 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

>From Tom's description; using a computer with iTunes will be the only way to 
>set it up without sighted assistance.

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On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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Re: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Richard Turner]

>From Tom's description; using a computer with iTunes will be the only way to 
>set it up without sighted assistance.


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On Aug 30, 2021, at 9:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When you say you "acquired" it, do you mean you bought it brand new or is it 
used? If it's used maybe whoever had it didn't reset it back to factory 
defaults and this is the only time where a triple press of the power button 
will work unless of course later on when it's all set up and you specify that a 
triple click of the power button should turn Voiceover on/off.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: August 30, 2021 7:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up 

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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RE: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi tom,

Is this iPad the ipad air 4?

You should be able to press the power button on the top edge three times 
quickly to enable voiceover,

Possibly the volume is low so check that you have turned it up 

Other than that you may be able to plug it in to a computer with itunes or 
similar if a mac and enable voiceover that way.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom 
Cramer
Sent: Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:10 pm
To: viphone 
Subject: iPad 8th generation and VoiceOver

Hi.
I acquired an iPad 8th generation 10 inch, and I'm trying to set it up. This 
one doesn't have a home button either.
I thought that if I just activate it, hit the power button three times, it 
would turn voiceover on. I also tried activating it with Siri, but since I 
haven't been able to connect it to my WiFi yet, this probably won't work.
What's the way to be able to set it up if I don't have someone sighted around?
Thank you much.
Tom

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Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Mary Otten]

I haven’t had an iPad in a long time. I think having one with a Bluetooth 
keyboard would be good if it has gotten better with Accessibility. For example, 
as far as I know, there is no good way to deal with anything but a very 
rudimentary PDF document on Apple products.. Got links. Nothing. Have to read a 
table? Can’t do it. I don’t know how word and XL would work, but I sure 
wouldn’t do it without a keyboard. I thought Apple had instituted some kind of 
find future equivalent to what we’ve been able to do in windows for years with 
screen readers. But I might be wrong. I thought they had done it for the Mac 
with voiceover but that would’ve carried over to the iPad. But since my only 
Apple products these days are  an iPhone and   watch, I’m not in a position to 
make definitive statements.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 11:22 AM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Joe,
> 
> I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
> easier to do on a PC.  
> 
> You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
> without using the rotor.
> 
> I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
> aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.
> 
> I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on 
> the PC.
> 
> So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
> Orozco
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:47 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
> 
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RE: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Joe,

I do have an iPad and enjoy it, but there are still some things I find much 
easier to do on a PC.  

You can navigate by headings in a browser,but I know of no way to do this 
without using the rotor.

I also am a heavy user of the Find feature with JAWS on web pages and am not 
aware of an equivalent in IOS.  I would love to be proven wrong on this.

I also need to use Excel and Word quite a lot, which I find much easier on the 
PC.

So it really depends on what you want to use it for, in my opinion.

Pam




-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad as a Productivity Tool

Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
that "improvement" is purely subjective.

First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
without using the roter?

Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
best bet, I'd be curious to know this.

Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
from you.

Thank you kindly in advance,

Joe


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Re: iPad as a Productivity Tool

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Joe; I’ve been using iOS products and Mac products since 2015. I’ve never 
went back to windows for any reason. Just pick up the iOS and Mac products and 
don’t look back. When I want to edit an app I bring it into notes. I do it by 
hand. And you certainly can jump from heading to heading with a Bluetooth 
keyboard. Hope this helps. Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 12:46 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I'm hoping someone can help educate me on the practical use of an
> iPad, a topic I know comes up routinely on the list. I have an iPhone,
> understand the benefits of iOS and the great progress of Voiceover.
> I'm still on the hunt for a productive tablet though and wonder if the
> iPad has improved in the past couple years, understanding of course
> that "improvement" is purely subjective.
> 
> First, have we made any progress with web browsing on iOS? That is to
> say, with a Bluetooth keyboard, have we improved the ability to do
> things like jump from heading to heading or navigate by paragraph
> without using the roter?
> 
> Second, regarding document editing, is Ulysses still the best editing
> app out there? I'm looking for something to integrate well with
> Dropbox and is able to accept Markup language. I'd rather pay a lump
> sum as opposed to a subscription plan, but if Ulysses is still the
> best bet, I'd be curious to know this.
> 
> Yes, I am guilty of wanting to see some of the JAWS ease of use on
> iOS, which I know is not possible or fair. Still, I am a creature of
> habit, and if my only recourse is to circle back to PC tablet options,
> I'll do so. The iPad is always back there in the back of my mind, and
> if you've picked it up as your tool of productivity, I'd love to hear
> from you.
> 
> Thank you kindly in advance,
> 
> Joe
> 
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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard yes this was rumoured a couple of months back,

The idea sounds nice and with the finger print id on the power button  like the 
air 4,

But my question is when do they release the mini with a smart folio keyboard?

That to me is one big thing missing from the mini a keyboard that works

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 15 July 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this fall 
with no home button, etc.
Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.


Richard
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On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer 
mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew




On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iPad mini generation six

Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
generation six Kathy

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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Pete Nalda]

Well I may not see fit to change either. Although I would like my full 512 MB 
library

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 3:58 PM, matthew dyer  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
> 
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>> released yet.
>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
>> March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>> 
>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>> 
>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>> is very confusing.
>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
>> Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>> on your Ipad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Pingstock
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>> 
>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Good afternoon
>>> 
>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>> generation six Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Pete Nalda]

Boy!  Dunno. My iPad mini five as a home button it gets a lot of use. So what 
the screen is a little smaller?  Finally on the newer iPad they may do away 
with the headphone jack. That would really be a bummer!But since it’s not out 
will have to see what it comes with

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> On Jul 14, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
> But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this 
> fall with no home button, etc.
> Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
> If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
> www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
>> this point, but did not think it was out yet.
>> 
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
>>> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
>>> released yet.
>>> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was 
>>> released March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
>>> 
>>> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
>>> 
>>> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
>>> is very confusing.
>>> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12 
>>>  Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not 
>>> on your Ipad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>> 
>>> Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce9f0f78dd3b141b6cb9d08d9470a2d40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637618931295493122%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ioQuMXZhAT1Tm%2Bpf4mY0Oo64beBN8kzure%2Fy%2BXFNjSA%3D&reserved=0
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
>>> 
>>> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
>>> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>>>> 
>>>> Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ce9f0f78dd3b141b6cb9d08d9470a2d40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637618931295503076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=AkfoRUHvgd4XN8GYaTT%2F9YPUkiYcm%2BvuT6FBdwRbNZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Kathy Pingstock
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>>>> 
>>>> Good afternoon
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>>>> generation six Kathy
>>>> 
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

Please note, no official announcement I know of has come from Apple.
But, Mac Rumors, and about every other rumor mill says it will be out this fall 
with no home button, etc.
Physically about the same size though probably thinner.
If you do a web search, you will find lots of references to it.



Richard
"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt

www.turner42.com


On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:58 PM, matthew dyer  
wrote:

Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew



On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini generation six

Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
generation six Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iPad mini generation six

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Is the 6th gen available?   I have a 5th gen so have no plans to upgrade at 
this point, but did not think it was out yet.


Matthew



> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:30 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
> If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
> released yet.
> The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
> March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.
> 
> The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.
> 
> It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that 
> is very confusing.
> Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
> Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
> your Ipad.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Pingstock
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six
> 
> Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
> mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>> Web site: 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1c717e64718b4ba5ffb408d946e67c12%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637618778008781645%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lpYxP7TeuRikWf3f0ZGeD8Q2cL0aeAG%2FSfLI7qA8xNA%3D&reserved=0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
>> Pingstock
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPad mini generation six
>> 
>> Good afternoon
>> 
>> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
>> generation six Kathy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

Well, if it is an iPod then yes, it could be a 6th generation.
If it is an iPad Mini, it cannot be a 6th generation as those have not been 
released yet.
The latest version of the iPad Mini is the 5th generation which was released 
March 18, 2019; 2 years ago.

The iPad Mini that was available in 2018 was the 4th generation.

It could be that you are reading some Apple internal model information that is 
very confusing.
Until the latest ioS, my iPhone SE 2020 was often shown as an iPhone 12  
Apple seems to have gotten their act together a little, but apparently not on 
your Ipad.



Richard
Software means never having to say you're finished

Web site: www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Pingstock
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad mini generation six

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: 
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> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Pingstock
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad mini generation six
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
> generation six Kathy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPad mini generation six

[Kathy Pingstock]

Richard when I do the above on my iPad mini it tells me that it is the iPad 
mini generation six I bought it in 2018 Kathy

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> Software means never having to say you're finished
> 
> Web site: www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
> Pingstock
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPad mini generation six
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
> generation six Kathy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: iPad mini generation six

[Richard Turner]

I didn't think the iPad Mini 6 was coming out until  this fall?



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Good afternoon

I am looking for a Bluetooth keyboard that has a case for my iPad mini 
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Re: iPad 8th gen

[Pete Nalda]

Yeah, they have to support usb audio for music applications. So any usb audio 
device, be it usb headset, or lightning adaptor will get audio. 

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> On Jun 5, 2021, at 10:25 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  My first gen SE supports lightning earphones along with the 3.5 MM jack. 
> So I'd be very surprised if it didn't.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard 
> "Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss 
> people." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
> 
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> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:13 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Larry & Richard, 
>> 
>> Apologies for giving the wrong response earlier to this question. I checked 
>> the wrong resource when looking it up. The Apple Store app did not give me 
>> the same details as the link you provided for the tech specs. Thanks for 
>> pointing this out. 
>> 
>> One question - since it has the 3.5mm jack, then does it not support the 
>> lightning connector / earbud setup that the iphone 7 supports? 
>> 
>> Dave Clement
>> Winnipeg MB
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Larry is correct.
>> It does.
>> Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:
>> iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications (apple.com)
>>  
>> Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>> Software means never having to say you're finished
>> 
>>  
>> Web site: www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
>> Lumpkin
>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:16 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iPad 8th gen
>>  
>> It does.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> scribbles...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPad 8th gen
>>  
>> Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?
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Re: iPad 8th gen

[Richard Turner]

My first gen SE supports lightning earphones along with the 3.5 MM jack.
So I'd be very surprised if it didn't.



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On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:13 PM, Dave Clement  wrote:


Larry & Richard,

Apologies for giving the wrong response earlier to this question. I checked the 
wrong resource when looking it up. The Apple Store app did not give me the same 
details as the link you provided for the tech specs. Thanks for pointing this 
out.

One question - since it has the 3.5mm jack, then does it not support the 
lightning connector / earbud setup that the iphone 7 supports?

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Larry is correct.
It does.
Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:
iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications 
(apple.com)<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.apple.com%2Fkb%2FSP822%3Flocale%3Den_US&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2f21b2b8bdfe44890bda08d928991015%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637585460141323638%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RnEdwTDOEvFpUrijowY8uPRMIpekU7EEiWgBExNGVOo%3D&reserved=0>

Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
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It does.

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Re: iPad 8th gen

[Dave Clement]

Larry & Richard, 

Apologies for giving the wrong response earlier to this question. I checked the 
wrong resource when looking it up. The Apple Store app did not give me the same 
details as the link you provided for the tech specs. Thanks for pointing this 
out. 

One question - since it has the 3.5mm jack, then does it not support the 
lightning connector / earbud setup that the iphone 7 supports? 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB


On Jun 5, 2021, at 6:24 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


Larry is correct.
It does.
Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:
iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications (apple.com)
 
Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.
 
 
 
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 3:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It does.
 
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Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?
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RE: iPad 8th gen

[Larry Lumpkin]

I bought the ipad 8th generation over the new Air because it saved me $150 or 
so. It performs as well as I need it to.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 6:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Larry is correct.

It does.

Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:

iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications (apple.com) 
<https://support.apple.com/kb/SP822?locale=en_US> 

 

Someone had said it didn’t have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.

 

 

 

Richard

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Subject: RE: iPad 8th gen

 

It does.

 

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RE: iPad 8th gen

[Richard Turner]

Larry is correct.
It does.
Here is a link to the technical specifications for the 8th Gen  iPad:
iPad (8th generation) - Technical specifications 
(apple.com)<https://support.apple.com/kb/SP822?locale=en_US>

Someone had said it didn't have the 3.5 jack; but Apple says it does.



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It does.

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Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?
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RE: iPad 8th gen

[Larry Lumpkin]

It does.

 

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Does the 8th gen 10.2 inch have the 3.5mm headphone jack?

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Re: iPad 8th gen

[Dave Clement]

No. You can buy an adapter, lightning to 3.5, if you need to use headphones of 
that sort with the ipad 8 or any iphone or ipad that has the lightning port. 

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Re: iPad Mini 5

[Richard Turner]

My wife has the iPad mini 5 and loves it. I suspect since the original SE got 
iOS 14, that the mini 5 is going to be able to take iOS updates for several 
more years. My guess is at least 4 more.
But, that is a guess.



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RE: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry I’m not sure I understand,

If you have voiceover on,
Then when you tip the iPad on to it’s side the ipad will tell you its in 
landscape with home button to side which ever.

The home button is at the bottom of the tablet,
The camera is at the top and in the centre if I remember correctly,
Power button is on the top edge, at the right hand end back slightly from the 
corner

Volume buttons are on the right hand edge, just below the top right corner of 
the tablet,
I’m sure you can feel both power on top and volume on the side,

Headphone jack is on the top edge, at left hand end of surface,
Left hand side of the tablet is the surface which smart covers manetically 
connect to
The bottom of the tablet
This bottom edge has the speakers
Lightening connecter port located.
Then you have the bck and the front.
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Hi, Group.
Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Fazil]

Thanks much, Richard.

The Targas case that I have put my iPad in, has several ports openings on 
either side, I thought those ports must be used for something.

 

Thanks again!

 

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Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
edge near the right side is the power, lock button. 

The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.  

The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button. 

 

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Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?

Thanks!

 

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Re: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Pete Nalda]

Should be noted this is portrait mode. It can be used in landscape mode too, 
but buttons matchup to an iPhone layout (those that had/have home buttons, 
anyway) in portrait. 

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> On Jan 24, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>  Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
> right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
> edge near the right side is the power, lock button.
> The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.  
> The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button. 
> 
> 
> Richard
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> Software means never having to say you're finished 
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>>> On Jan 24, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Fazil  wrote:
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>> Hi, Group.
>> Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
>> Thanks!
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Re: iPad Mini 5 Orientation?

[Richard Turner]

Well, if you think of an iPhone, with the home button at the bottom, on the 
right side are the volume buttons, and on the top side, kind of on the back 
edge near the right side is the power, lock button.
The earphone jack is on the top side near the left edge.
The charging port is on the bottom edge below the home button.


Richard


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Hi, Group.
Can someone give me an orientation to the four-sides of iPad Mini 5, please?
Thanks!


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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

A folio keyboard is a case that folds around your iPad and has a keyboard in 
the front half
Your iPad stands up on a slight angle and lets you type like on a notebook 
computer

If you’re not worried about screen size then go for the iPad mini,

It’s only a year older and should I would think be cheaper than the air.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 11:35 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.
Thanks!


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Fazil]

I am totally blind and I am not worried about screen size and I don’t know 
anything about folio keyboard.

Thanks!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2021 2:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi Fazil

 

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

 

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,

But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,

You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

 

The processor of course is newer in the air 

And the screen I believe is better,

 

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

 

And that other question is what’s your budget?

 

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard 

Cellular & wifi

256gb

Which is in excellent condition 

 

And a iPad Mini 5 

Cellular and wifi 

256GB

Again in excellent condition,

Both space grey,

 

That I’m looking to sell,

 

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

 

Simon f

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

 

Hi, Group.

Please help me decide.

I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.

It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.

Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?

I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.

Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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RE: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Fazil

It really depends on what your doing and whether you need the larger screen 
size?

Otherwise you don’t I believe have the home button on the air,
But you do have a finger id sensor on the power button which is of course on 
the top,
You can get a smart folio keyboard with / for the air but no keyboard from 
apple for the mini 5.

The processor of course is newer in the air
And the screen I believe is better,

But your bigg thing is the size, so would you want the larger 10.? Screen size 
or the 7.9 inch screen size,

And that other question is what’s your budget?

I will also say I’ve got a 2018 11inch iPad Pro with smart folio keyboard
Cellular & wifi
256gb
Which is in excellent condition

And a iPad Mini 5
Cellular and wifi
256GB
Again in excellent condition,
Both space grey,

That I’m looking to sell,

May be  we could discuss things if you were interested.

Simon f

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Friday, 22 January 2021 3:31 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad Mini 5th Gen Or iPad Air 2020 256GB?

Hi, Group.
Please help me decide.
I am in the market to purchase an iPad 256GB. Now I am debating between iPad 
Mini or iPad Air 2020.
It is $240 difference between these two. I like the size of iPad Mini.
Being a totally blind user, would I be missing something in iPad Mini which is 
available in iPad Air?
I am not worried about A14 Bionic chip in iPad Air.
Anything important that I should go for iPad Air, not for iPad Mini?
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks!

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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Janet Bell]

Morning all, thanks very much for all your tips and tricks.  I switced 
it on this morning and hey presto it worrked.  I don't quite know why 
but hey whose questioning as long as it works. thanks once again,  Janet


On 11/12/2020 18:27, sreeb...@gmail.com wrote:
Have you try to do a force reboot on the iPad? Holding down the power 
button and the volume  Up button for about six seconds should start  a 
force reboot.  Then about 20 seconds later press the power  button to 
restart your iPad.
Other thoughts are do you have screen curtain on? with  voiceover 
turned off?


Best regards,
Sree B. roy

 Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:

Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come 
on it has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on 
button.  hope someone can make a suggestion, Janet


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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Mickey Quenzer]

First of all make sure your charger is plugged in to a wall outlet. make sure 
there isn’t a switch that turns The wall outlet off. then unplug your iPad and 
wait for about a minute. plug your iPad back in again and most likely that will 
turn The iPad on if it can be turned on. Wait for a couple of hours and see if 
voiceover comes on. This is my suggestion I hope it works.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Simon A 
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Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 8:24:45 PM
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Subject: RE: iPad suddenly stopped working

Do you use voiceover with the ipad and are you completely sure it has been 
charged up?

Can you see it if you connect it to a computer with the cable?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2020 6:26 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.

On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
> it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
> didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath 
> the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
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>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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RE: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Simon A Fogarty]

Jannet,

Plug it in and give it time

If the device has completely died then it takes time for the system to come 
back on again.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
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Sent: Saturday, 12 December 2020 7:08 am
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Subject: Re: iPad suddenly stopped working


I plugged it in and nothing happened I checked the volume up and down and 
checked everything else I could think of.  Janet
On 11/12/2020 18:05, Michael Feir wrote:
Just a thought. Plugging in your iPAD should force it to turn on. That at least 
resolves whether or not it's on presuming no power outage or cable issues. 
After that, it's all about making certain the thing isn't muted or the volume 
is too low. Hit the volume up button a few times. After a moment, hit the side 
button. That should result in some noise. I guess there's always a small chance 
that your iPAD has gotten an update. There's one due out pretty soon. Plugging 
it in and waiting is about the only other thing I can think of presuming you 
have nobody with sight who can look at it. Hope that helps. It's always 
nerve-racking when silence holds sway.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM Janet Bell 
mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi I did exactly that as well as I have been caught out with the same thing.

On 11/12/2020 17:30, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got turned down 
> so you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of things that it happened to 
> me and now I know to look for. LOL.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell 
>> mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.
>>
>>> On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
>>> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
>>> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on 
>>> and it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that 
>>> I didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
>>> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
>>> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor 
>>> underneath the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>>>
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell 
>>>>> mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>>>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>>>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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RE: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Simon A Fogarty]

Do you use voiceover with the ipad and are you completely sure it has been 
charged up?

Can you see it if you connect it to a computer with the cable?

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no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.

On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
> it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
> didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath 
> the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>
>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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RE: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Janet,

If you have another charger or wire to use just to make sure it’s not an issue 
with the one you are using. Also do you have and iPhone. If you do you could 
use Be my eyes to see if the screen is on.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Janet Bell
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 12:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

 

I plugged it in and nothing happened I checked the volume up and down and 
checked everything else I could think of.  Janet

On 11/12/2020 18:05, Michael Feir wrote:

Just a thought. Plugging in your iPAD should force it to turn on. That at least 
resolves whether or not it's on presuming no power outage or cable issues. 
After that, it's all about making certain the thing isn't muted or the volume 
is too low. Hit the volume up button a few times. After a moment, hit the side 
button. That should result in some noise. I guess there's always a small chance 
that your iPAD has gotten an update. There's one due out pretty soon. Plugging 
it in and waiting is about the only other thing I can think of presuming you 
have nobody with sight who can look at it. Hope that helps. It's always 
nerve-racking when silence holds sway.

 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM Janet Bell  wrote:

Hi I did exactly that as well as I have been caught out with the same thing.

On 11/12/2020 17:30, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got turned down 
> so you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of things that it happened to 
> me and now I know to look for. LOL.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>
>> no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.
>>
>>> On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
>>> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
>>> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on 
>>> and it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that 
>>> I didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
>>> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
>>> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor 
>>> underneath the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>>>
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>>>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>>>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>>>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[sreebroy]

Have you try to do a force reboot on the iPad? Holding down the power button 
and the volume  Up button for about six seconds should start  a force reboot.  
Then about 20 seconds later press the power  button to restart your iPad.
Other thoughts are do you have screen curtain on? with  voiceover turned off?

Best regards,
Sree B. roy

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it has 
> been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope someone 
> can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Janet Bell]

I plugged it in and nothing happened I checked the volume up and down 
and checked everything else I could think of.  Janet


On 11/12/2020 18:05, Michael Feir wrote:
Just a thought. Plugging in your iPAD should force it to turn on. That 
at least resolves whether or not it's on presuming no power outage or 
cable issues. After that, it's all about making certain the thing 
isn't muted or the volume is too low. Hit the volume up button a few 
times. After a moment, hit the side button. That should result in some 
noise. I guess there's always a small chance that your iPAD has gotten 
an update. There's one due out pretty soon. Plugging it in and waiting 
is about the only other thing I can think of presuming you have nobody 
with sight who can look at it. Hope that helps. It's always 
nerve-racking when silence holds sway.


On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM Janet Bell > wrote:


Hi I did exactly that as well as I have been caught out with the
same thing.

On 11/12/2020 17:30, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got
turned down so you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of
things that it happened to me and now I know to look for. LOL.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.
>>
>>> On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
>>> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m
going to ask you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset
that had been turned on and it inadvertently never got turned off.
I had have a set of AirPods that I didn’t realize one of them got
lost and was out of the case and could not figure out why my iPad
did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it and worked on
it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath the
couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>>>
>>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>>>
> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell mailto:tagli...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad
won't come on it has been charged and nothing happens when I press
the on button.  hope someone can make a suggestion, Janet

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Just a thought. Plugging in your iPAD should force it to turn on. That at
least resolves whether or not it's on presuming no power outage or cable
issues. After that, it's all about making certain the thing isn't muted or
the volume is too low. Hit the volume up button a few times. After a
moment, hit the side button. That should result in some noise. I guess
there's always a small chance that your iPAD has gotten an update. There's
one due out pretty soon. Plugging it in and waiting is about the only other
thing I can think of presuming you have nobody with sight who can look at
it. Hope that helps. It's always nerve-racking when silence holds sway.

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM Janet Bell  wrote:

> Hi I did exactly that as well as I have been caught out with the same
> thing.
>
> On 11/12/2020 17:30, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> > Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got turned
> down so you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of things that it
> happened to me and now I know to look for. LOL.
> >
> > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> >
> >> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> >>
> >> no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.
> >>
> >>> On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
> >>> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going
> to ask you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been
> turned on and it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of
> AirPods that I didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case
> and could not figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it
> and worked on it and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on
> the floor underneath the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that
> question.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
> >>>
> > On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
>  Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come
> on it has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.
> hope someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Janet Bell]

Hi I did exactly that as well as I have been caught out with the same thing.

On 11/12/2020 17:30, Diane Giannetti wrote:

Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got turned down so 
you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of things that it happened to me and 
now I know to look for. LOL.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:

no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.


On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it and 
worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath the 
couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:

Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it has 
been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope someone can 
make a suggestion, Janet

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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Diane Giannetti]

Another thought I had Janet is the fact of maybe the volume got turned down so 
you wouldn’t hear it. These are the couple of things that it happened to me and 
now I know to look for. LOL.

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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:26 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.
> 
>> On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:
>> Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
>> you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on 
>> and it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that 
>> I didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
>> figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it 
>> and worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath 
>> the couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.
>> 
>> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>> 
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>>> 
>>> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it 
>>> has been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope 
>>> someone can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Janet Bell]

no I haven't used any wireless or bluetooth headphones.

On 11/12/2020 17:25, Diane Giannetti wrote:

Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it and 
worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath the 
couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!


On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:

Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it has 
been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope someone can 
make a suggestion, Janet

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Re: iPad suddenly stopped working

[Diane Giannetti]

Janet, this may sound a little strange to you the question I’m going to ask 
you. By any chance do you have a wireless headset that had been turned on and 
it inadvertently never got turned off. I had have a set of AirPods that I 
didn’t realize one of them got lost and was out of the case and could not 
figure out why my iPad did not turn on and we worked on it and worked on it and 
worked on it. Finally my brother found an AirPod on the floor underneath the 
couch. So, that is why I’m asking you that question.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Dec 11, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Janet Bell  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys please can someone tell me what to do.  My iPad won't come on it has 
> been charged and nothing happens when I press the on button.  hope someone 
> can make a suggestion, Janet
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Re: Ipad: how to jump directly to mailbody

[Dave Clement]

Hi, 

One way to do this is to add the "containers" item to your rotor, then move the 
rotor to it, then flick up or down. 

settings / accessibility / voiceover / rotor

The left hand side and right hand side of the ipad are usually separate 
containers as in the Mail app. Many apps on the ipad use this two-sided 
approach. 

The screen area may in fact be divided into yet more containers. This is 
totally under program control of the currently running app. 

I hope this helps. 

Dave Clement
Winnipeg MB



On Nov 2, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Davy Cuppns  wrote:

Hi folks
When opening a mail with arrow-up-down or doubble tap the only thing often 
happening is that te mail seems to be selected,I know the mail is open on the 
right side of the screen as it should but the VO cursor stays in the list of 
read and unread mails insted of focussing the textbody.  
I have to touch the screen where the opened mail is situated to get it read.
On an iphone this is no problem but on an ipad with large screen it often stays 
in the list, has thisto do with split view or how to prevent this behaviour?
Regards
Davy

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RE: Ipad: how to jump directly to mailbody

[Richard Turner]

If you are using a keyboard, use the rotor and turn to containers, and hit down 
arrow which will jump you to the body of the message.
You may be able to define a command in the VoiceOver settings for next 
container, I don't recall right now.





Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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Hi folks
When opening a mail with arrow-up-down or doubble tap the only thing often 
happening is that te mail seems to be selected,I know the mail is open on the 
right side of the screen as it should but the VO cursor stays in the list of 
read and unread mails insted of focussing the textbody.  
I have to touch the screen where the opened mail is situated to get it read.
On an iphone this is no problem but on an ipad with large screen it often stays 
in the list, has thisto do with split view or how to prevent this behaviour?
Regards
Davy

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Re: iPad os14

[Robert Doc Wright]

Thanks, I donder why mine is claiming to be up to date at 13.7.
**
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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: iPad os14


>From Apple's web site:
iPadOS is compatible with these devices.
Learn more about iPad

  a.. iPad Pro 12.9-inch (4th generation)
  b.. iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation)
  c.. iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation)
  d.. iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation)
  e.. iPad Pro 12.9-inch (2nd generation)
  f.. iPad Pro 12.9-inch (1st generation)
  g.. iPad Pro 10.5-inch
  h.. iPad Pro 9.7-inch
  i.. iPad (8th generation)
  j.. iPad (7th generation)
  k.. iPad (6th generation)
  l.. iPad (5th generation)
  m.. iPad mini (5th generation)
  n.. iPad mini 4
  o.. iPad Air (4th generation)
  p.. iPad Air (3rd generation)
  q.. iPad Air 2









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  On Sep 20, 2020, at 2:50 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


   
  Is the 6th gen suppose to get this upgrade? I ask because though my phone has 
it my 6thgen is saying that I am up to date at 13.7.
  **
  If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

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Re: iPad os14

[Richard Turner]

>From Apple's web site:
iPadOS is compatible with these devices.

Learn more about iPad

  *   iPad Pro 12.9-inch (4th generation)
  *   iPad Pro 11-inch (2nd generation)
  *   iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation)
  *   iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation)
  *   iPad Pro 12.9-inch (2nd generation)
  *   iPad Pro 12.9-inch (1st generation)
  *   iPad Pro 10.5-inch
  *   iPad Pro 9.7-inch
  *   iPad (8th generation)
  *   iPad (7th generation)
  *   iPad (6th generation)
  *   iPad (5th generation)
  *   iPad mini (5th generation)
  *   iPad mini 4
  *   iPad Air (4th generation)
  *   iPad Air (3rd generation)
  *   iPad Air 2




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Sep 20, 2020, at 2:50 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


Is the 6th gen suppose to get this upgrade? I ask because though my phone has 
it my 6thgen is saying that I am up to date at 13.7.
**
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Mary Otten]

With the latest version of fire 0S, available on the latest HD eight and HD 8+, 
you can now dictate with voice view. I have no idea how accurate it is, as I 
would never dream of using that tablet for email.
Ditto for web browsing. Lousy experience!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 6:49 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> she won’t be able to dictate emails.
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
>> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not 
>> my favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for 
>> an iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
>> features they want.
>> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
>> Herbert
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
>> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
>> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
>> the screen reading software is for them.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Jen
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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Mary Otten]

I think it would be helpful to know what this person expects to use the tablet 
for. I have had a few Kindle fire tablet overtime, and there’s just no way in 
the world I would want that as an all purpose tablet. I have the latest one 
with the extra gig of RAM, which is the HD 8+. If I just had one device, and it 
had to be a tablet, I would get an iPad before this thing. You don’t have to 
have the pro. You could get the mini, which sometimes shows up on sale, or the 
plain old iPad, which is even cheaper than many. Any of them is vastly superior 
to the Kindle fire, faster, smoother, better sounding, better apps, such as 
voice dream reader, which is way better on iOS than it is on android. If you 
wanta media consumption device, and you’re satisfied with the voicees you get 
on the Kindle, then it’s OK. But not as an all purpose device in my view. 
Better save your money and get something that’s going to last several years and 
have several updates.


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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

Hi

They're very capable devices IMO. I find VoiceOver to be more polished
than VoiceView but your typical iPad's 8 times the price and it's
definitely not 8 times as good.
Try to go for the add free version if possible which in the UK is only
£10 extra.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 8/3/20, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> she won’t be able to dictate emails.
>
>> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard
>> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not
>> my favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up
>> for an iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has
>> the features they want.
>> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and
>> plus.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" -
>> Edward Herbert
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen
>> .
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot
>> afford an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.
>> Any thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or
>> whatever the screen reading software is for them.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> Jen
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RE: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Richard Turner]

Did I miss something in the original post?
Was dictating emails a requirement?
Alexa can send emails and I believe Alexa is accessible on the Fire tablet, is 
that not correct?



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kathy 
Brandt
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 6:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

she won’t be able to dictate emails.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
> favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
> iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
> features they want.
> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
> 
> Hi,
> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
> the screen reading software is for them.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Jen
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Re: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Kathy Brandt]

she won’t be able to dictate emails.

> On Aug 3, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard 
> very good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
> favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
> iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the 
> features they want.
> I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2020 5:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each
> 
> Hi,
> I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford 
> an iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any 
> thoughts.  Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever 
> the screen reading software is for them.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Jen
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RE: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

[Richard Turner]

I do not have personal experience with the Fire tablet, but I have heard very 
good things about them.  Other than they run on Android, which is not my 
favorite but is better than it used to be and if they cannot save up for an 
iPad, then I'd suggest they read many reviews and make sure it has the features 
they want.
I know they make several sizes, they have a kids edition, standard and plus.


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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Subject: Ipad or fire tablet pros and cons of each

Hi,
I am asking for a friend with a visually impaired daughter who cannot afford an 
iPad at the moment and was considering perhaps a fire tablet.  Any thoughts.  
Are there many accessible apps and how is voiceover or whatever the screen 
reading software is for them.
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RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

I recommend the Logitech K380 or K480 as the keys are about the same size as on 
a standard computer keyboard.
Often local stores like Target, Best Buy, carry them, or of course Amazon.



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Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

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On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton 
mailto:patonpl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello.
first a little background.

I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
by an explosion.
apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
dificult.

so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.

We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
turned up much that is solving these problems.
There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
availability and if they would help, would be useful.
Many thanks.

Joe

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RE: ipad adjustments

[Richard Turner]

If he is using VoiceOver, none of the physical switches work when VoiceOver is 
on.
There are Bluetooth keyboard commands to do everything.
I have both a document with keyboard commands and a list of what I think are 
all of the voice control commands on my web site: www.turner42.com

This is a great place to be asking your questions.



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Subject: Re: ipad adjustments

What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury 
> caused by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences 
> mainly, are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is 
> very dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less 
> sensitive, or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location 
> and activation of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an 
> app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch 
> with hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration We can 
> use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of an 
> issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home 
> screens that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is 
> possible, so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations 
> where the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't 
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, 
> there availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ipad adjustments

[Devin Prater]

There are keyboard commands for navigating an iOS device. I’d recommend setting 
the Voiceover modifier to Capslock, and maybe teaching him Quick navigation 
with the arrow keys first, for less finger use. You can set things in Settings 
> accessibility > keyboard to help too. Note that you don’t /have/ to have a 
Magic keyboard.

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/use-voiceover-with-magic-keyboard-iph6c494dc6/ios
 



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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:45 AM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: ipad adjustments

[Michael Feir]

My first thought would be to look in the Touch setings. You'll find that
button in the accessibility settings and it leads to a large group of
options which sound to me like what you want. You can change how gestures
work and do other things related to touch screen difficulties. I don't know
where you get the special control switches but imagine they'd be on Amazon
among other places. The Apple store would certainly have at least one or
two types in their accessories but they tend to sell things more
expensively than elsewhere. Hope that helps a bit.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:57 AM 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you
> first enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the
> extra software but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as
> required - and there is a voice control command to turn off voice control.
> Voice control commands can be used to replace all physical tapping and
> swiping and works well with or without VoiceOver. It is important either to
> use a headset or EarPods or else be careful to say “Command Mode”,
> otherwise text edit fields get filled up with every word you or VoiceOver
> say!
> Harry
>
> > On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> >
> > Hello.
> > first a little background.
> >
> > I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> > by an explosion.
> > apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> > are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> > dificult.
> >
> > so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> > or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> > of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> > Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> > hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> > We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> > an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home
> screens
> > that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> > so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all.
> >
> > We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> > the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> > I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> > turned up much that is solving these problems.
> > There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> > availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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Re: ipad adjustments

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

What about enabling Voice Control in Accessibility Settings? When you first 
enable the feature, it takes a couple of minutes to download the extra software 
but after that you can ask Siri to turn the feature on as required - and there 
is a voice control command to turn off voice control. Voice control commands 
can be used to replace all physical tapping and swiping and works well with or 
without VoiceOver. It is important either to use a headset or EarPods or else 
be careful to say “Command Mode”, otherwise text edit fields get filled up with 
every word you or VoiceOver say!
Harry

> On 17 Jun 2020, at 08:45, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> first a little background.
> 
> I am working with a person who suffers from ptsd after an injury caused
> by an explosion.
> apart from the psychological injuries, the physical consequences mainly,
> are that his hands shake, and navigating the touch screen is very
> dificult.
> 
> so, is it possible, and how can the touch screen be made less sensitive,
> or delayed action imposed on the device to allow location and activation
> of icons and other app elements on the screen, and within an app.
> Flicking is really dificult for him, and of course explore by touch with
> hand tremmer causes consequences that develop frustration
> We can use a bluetooth keyboard to enter data, so that is not so much of
> an issue. were there keyboard commands to navigate programs and home screens
> that would be desirable, but I can't find out if this is possible,
> so I guess not.  Guessing is of course no use at all. 
> 
> We can use siri for a number of tasks of course, but the locations where
> the device can be used may not always be condusive to dictation.
> I have looked on applevis, but in the limited time I have, I haven't
> turned up much that is solving these problems.
> There are specialised switches, so where to find out about these, there
> availability and if they would help, would be useful.
> Many thanks.
> 
> Joe
> 
> .
> 
> 
> 
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Re: iPad docking station set up?

[Tali Sarnetzky]

I've just remembered a friend who got a docking station for her iPad
from the sharper image back in the day, and it turned the iPad into a
screen of a laptop like setup. So you had the keyboard and USB ports,
while the tablet sat like the display, with access to the power button
and headphone jack.

On 5/9/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Hi Tracey,
>
> I connected a USB hub to my iPad pro and got extra ports, but not a dock and
> or used the pad as a monitor
>
> As for the two keyboard
>
> Can't see why not,
> I have 2 bluetooth keyboards connected to my iPad mini 5 and they both
> work,
>  Although it seems like they confuse things for the pad when I try to use
> them together.
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci
> Duncan
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> Subject: iPad docking station set up?
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> Has anyone set up a docking station for their iPad? Something with a
> keyboard + ability to charge, and have my iPad as the screen?
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> Along side this question, can I have two keyboards connected to my iPad
> mini? Braille and qwerty?
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> Thank you,
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RE: iPad docking station set up?

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Tracey,

I connected a USB hub to my iPad pro and got extra ports, but not a dock and or 
used the pad as a monitor 

As for the two keyboard 

Can't see why not,
I have 2 bluetooth keyboards connected to my iPad mini 5 and they both work,
 Although it seems like they confuse things for the pad when I try to use them 
together.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Traci 
Duncan
Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 6:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad docking station set up?

Has anyone set up a docking station for their iPad? Something with a keyboard + 
ability to charge, and have my iPad as the screen? 

Along side this question, can I have two keyboards connected to my iPad mini? 
Braille and qwerty? 

Thank you, 
Traci 
 

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Re: Question re IPad Mini5

[Marie]

not on the Mini5 I tried. It was locked into portrait mode but apps like 
mail and settings always appeared with the split screen.




Marie
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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: Question re IPad Mini5

Forgive me if wrong, but thought it only applied to landscape mode, not 
portrait.
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Subject: Question re IPad Mini5


I would love to get an IPad Mini5 for the longer battery life and the better 
speakers. But I really hate the split screen within
apps. I know it is probably not possible but is there any way to disable 
this feature altogether?

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Re: Question re IPad Mini5

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Forgive me if wrong, but thought it only applied to landscape mode, not 
portrait.
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Subject: Question re IPad Mini5


I would love to get an IPad Mini5 for the longer battery life and the better 
speakers. But I really hate the split screen within 
apps. I know it is probably not possible but is there any way to disable this 
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Question re IPad Mini5

[Marie]

I would love to get an IPad Mini5 for the longer battery life and the better 
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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Fanus Buys]

Thanks, I shall enquire. In settings I could change the measurement unit to 
KBPS.
Regards
Fanus


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Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 5:16 PM
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Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

That is an OK speed, if you continue to experience issues with downloading apps 
of any sort your provider must be blocking something and as I said before, you 
should ask them why this doesn't work when you are on your WiFi and why it 
worked instantly when you were connected to the WiFi at the store where you 
bought the iPad.


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Buys
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:11 AM
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Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


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Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
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Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is an OK speed, if you continue to experience issues with downloading apps 
of any sort your provider must be blocking something and as I said before, you 
should ask them why this doesn't work when you are on your WiFi and why it 
worked instantly when you were connected to the WiFi at the store where you 
bought the iPad.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 7:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks, I downloaded SpeedTest on my iPhone. It is interesting that the app 
gives the result in mega bits. I am used to kilo bytes and mega bytes. My 
result shows download speed = 12.3 mega bits which, if I am not mistaken, is 
1.53 mega bytes per second. In foreign countries this might be slow but here in 
SA a speed of 900 kbps or more is quite fast over a cell network. I use 
Internet Download Manager to download large files and it seldom shows more than 
900 KBPS, so this result of 1.53 MBPS is quite fast here. Or am I wrong with my 
calculation?
Regards
Fanus


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but ....

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

You should take this up with your provider. Also I would recommend you do a 
Speedtest, either go to www.speedtest.net on your PC or, on your iPad Mini or 
iPhone download the Speedtest by Ookla app.
My Mom's WiFi is also from a smarthub via the cellular network and she has no 
problems downloading anything.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPad mini 5 won't load apps problem solved but 

Hello list
I managed to get a lift back to the iStore and guess what, the moment the 
assistant connected my Ipad mini 5 to their wifi all the native apps downloaded 
and installed. Now remember, with my wifi I could download third party apps 
like Audible, Kindle etc. and on my pc I can serve the net, download stuff and 
read new emails. So the funny thing: what setting or hardware aspect of my 
cellular wifi router prevents the native apps on the iPad to download and 
install. The guy at the iStore had no idea. Can one of the experts on the list 
think of a reason. I would like to know so that I can change my wifi settings 
or at least advise future users just to try a different network. I did insert 
the sim card into another router so the network provider is the same but the 
problem stayed. Well, at least my trip to the iStore was worth while so that I 
can now use my Ipad mini 5.
Regards and thanks for all the suggestions and assistance offered.
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

As Richard pointed out, it is always possible that your unit is somehow 
defective. I don’t think it happens often, but it’s not entirely impossible, 
either.
As for calling Apple Accessibility in the US, if you have Skype you can call US 
toll free numbers for free, the only cost you have is for the data usage.
I know you said before your WiFi is expensive, not sure if you get WiFi from a 
smart hub which uses cellular data, but people have to realize that not 
everybody lives in the US, Canada, Australia, new Zealand or most European 
countries where having a good and  for the most part unlimited WiFi connection 
is taken for granted.
Even in Canada this may not be the case if you live in a remote or rural area. 
My family, for example, have a cattle ranch in northeastern British Columbia. 
The closest town where you find any decent shopping such as a few super 
markets, hardware stores, office supply stores etc. is 130 Km away (that’s 80 
mile sfor those in the US) and that is one-way. With winter driving conditions 
that can be an almost 2 hour trip and while there is reasonably good cell phone 
coverage at the ranch, the only internet they can get is either by satellite 
with a company called XploreNet or by using a smart hub which connects to the 
cellular network (usually it’s slow LTE, but sometimes it drops down to 3G) and 
the plan my Mom has, for example, gives her 3 Gb for $45, if she is over 3 Gb 
and below 5 Gb it goes to $55, between 5 and 10 Gb it goes to $75 and if it’s 
over 10 GB it gets really expensive. If she has an iOS update and a Windows 
update in 1 month that can easily be 5 Gb right there without any regular 
usage. This means things like Netflix or streaming music are not even worse 
considering and she limits checking things out on YouTube to the absolutely 
necessary. She also has 6 Gb on her iPhone plan and mostly she doesn’t even 
have it connected to her WiFi because it’s the same cellular network anyways 
and at least this way she can mostly keep her smart hub data for use with her 
computer and things like app updates are done via cellular data. Now that Apple 
has made it possible to download even larger apps via cellular data that is a 
good thing for her.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Thanks a lot. I searched for a local number but the number I found suggests 
that I book an appointment so I could not talk to someone, so thanks, I shall 
try the number you supplied.
Regards
Fanus


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Fanus,
I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa
0800 444 426

HTH,

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
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Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

From:

RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Richard

Thanks a lot. I searched for a local number but the number I found suggests 
that I book an appointment so I could not talk to someone, so thanks, I shall 
try the number you supplied.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Fanus,

I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa

0800 444 426

 

HTH,

 

Richard

 

🖖 Live long and prosper

 

 

Check out my web site at:  <http://www.turner42.com/> www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Brian

Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Dear Famus & List:

Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Richard

Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 

This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.

Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.

I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

 

 

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Right about web pages, but again, that has nothing to do with downloading apps 
from the app store.
That is a closed system.



Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Richard & List:
Thank you for correcting my memory error!
The web site can connect you to the mobile or desktop page, despite you 
specifying the page you want. True, this should not affect the downloading of 
files.
Famous: the 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, 833 and 822 area codes are also for 
toll-free numbers. It is rather funny that firms use toll-free numbers to 
contact them. Most cellular airtime plans provide national free long-distance 
calling, often unlimited. Long distance from a landline is also quite cheap, in 
Canada, $35 a month gets you unlimited calling to Canada and the USA or to most 
countries in Europe. However, we pay a fortune to call Caribbean nations. There 
are no similar cheap packages to Africa, Asia, Australia, or Oceania. Or 
Antarctica for that matter.
Sincerely,
Brian K. Lingard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of 
Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.

My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.

Richard

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K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Richard & List:
Thank you for correcting my memory error!
The web site can connect you to the mobile or desktop page, despite you 
specifying the page you want. True, this should not affect the downloading of 
files.
Famous: the 888, 877, 866, 855, 844, 833 and 822 area codes are also for 
toll-free numbers. It is rather funny that firms use toll-free numbers to 
contact them. Most cellular airtime plans provide national free long-distance 
calling, often unlimited. Long distance from a landline is also quite cheap, in 
Canada, $35 a month gets you unlimited calling to Canada and the USA or to most 
countries in Europe. However, we pay a fortune to call Caribbean nations. There 
are no similar cheap packages to Africa, Asia, Australia, or Oceania. Or 
Antarctica for that matter.
Sincerely,
Brian K. Lingard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.
 
My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.
 
Richard
 
🖖 Live long and prosper
 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus
 
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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Yes, 800 is one of the many toll free prefixes.  888, 877, 866, 855, 844, are 
also toll free prefixes.
Apple uses 877 for their accessibility support, while Microsoft uses 800 for 
their accessibility support.

If you want some history on toll free numbers, check out:
https://www.messagingservice.com/toll-free-numbers-guide/


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 7:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:

Try sending e-mail to supp...@apple.com<mailto:supp...@apple.com> or 
accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>. Apple may be willing 
to telephone you from the U. S. A. It is worth trying, may save you an 
inconvenient and expensive Safari to the Apple store.

Area code 800 in the USA/Canada is for toll-free numbers. however, they usually 
do not work from other countries. There is an 800-country code, presumably for 
toll-free numbers which work from several countries or worldwide. I do not know 
of any such numbers.


The staff in the tuck shop in my former apartment building in Scarborough in 
the east of Toronto used to try teaching me Swahili, their native language.

Sincerely,



Brian K. . Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to plan to get to the instore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Famus & List:
 
Try sending e-mail to supp...@apple.com <mailto:supp...@apple.com>  or 
accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> . Apple may be willing 
to telephone you from the U. S. A. It is worth trying, may save you an 
inconvenient and expensive Safari to the Apple store.
 
Area code 800 in the USA/Canada is for toll-free numbers. however, they usually 
do not work from other countries. There is an 800-country code, presumably for 
toll-free numbers which work from several countries or worldwide. I do not know 
of any such numbers.
 
The staff in the tuck shop in my former apartment building in Scarborough in 
the east of Toronto used to try teaching me Swahili, their native language. 
Sincerely,
 
Brian K. . Lingard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to plan to get to the instore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf of 
Fanus Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open
 
Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.
 
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner
On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus
 

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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

Fanus,
I just sent a note to the list with Apple support numbers around the world, 
Here is the one for South Africa in case you don’t already have it.  It doesn’t 
say Accessibility support specifically. South Africa
0800 444 426

HTH,

Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Brian
Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus


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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Fanus Buys]

Hello Brian

Thanks for your suggestion but I live in South Africa and phone calls from SA 
are very expensive. I shall have to make a plan to get to the iStore where I 
purchased the iPad. I used to be a huge apple supporter but this time I am very 
disappointed because none of the suggestions on the apple support site solved 
the problem.

Regards

Fanus

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Dear Famus & List:

Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.

Brian K. Lingard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Hello Richard

Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.

Regards

Fanus

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

 

Are you sure your wifi connection is good? 

This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.

Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.

I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:

Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus

 





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RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

[Richard Turner]

First, Apple Accessibility is 877-204-3930, not 800.  At least the US number is 
877.

My wife got an iPad Mini 5 in June and has never had this problem.
It is either a bad unit, or a connection problem.
I don’t see what web sites treatment of the device has anything to do with 
downloading of apps in the app store.


Richard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2020 6:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Dear Famus & List:
Some web sites query your browser, will treat your iPad Mini as using Safari 
like it or not. Thee aps may not be compatible with Voiceover, which is odd, as 
they are made by Apple, which also makes Voiceover. Call Apple Accessibility at 
(800) 204-3930. They know their products and have them available to see if they 
can duplicate your problem.
Brian K. Lingard


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf of Fanus 
Buys
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Hello Richard
Yes, this is the strange side. I downloaded Audible, Kindle, Playgrounds, and a 
few others from the app store. All apps which I download do work. It is just 
most of the built-in apps which refuse to download and open.
Regards
Fanus

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPad Mini built-in apps do not open

Are you sure your wifi connection is good?
This sounds like something is up with your internet connection.
Or, there is an issue with the wifi antenna in the iPad.
I don't remember where you live if you can call Apple Accessibility and have 
them do a diagnostic.

Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

On Jan 30, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Fanus Buys 
mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello list
I am not sure if I asked this previously. After setting up a new iPad mini 5
only a few apps open. When highlighting some apps voiceover says "loading" and
some say "waiting" but when I double tap, I get the message that I must try
later. I am not near the instore where I purchased the mini so I hope someone
can suggest a solution. I did a reset, I signed out with my apple ID, I
tried to setup connecting to a pc but none of these solves the problem.
Regards
Fanus



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