Re: today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Joe,

My last upgrade was from a 7 to a 13 mini.  You have an iPhone 11 chip
inside the SE 2020.  Personally, I would hold onto it until iOS
support ends, likely in 2025.  People get value out of their iPhones
through longevity.  They last a really long time.  We are still in the
design cycle of flat edges.  Remember, more than half of the benefit
of iPhones is iOS, its stability and all the features it offers.  You
will get iOS 17 with or without the iPhone 15.

Kelly



On 9/14/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I think people have to get away from the expectation that companies like
> Apple are going to release these amazing new devices once a year and in fact
> I think many people already are catching on to this. Of course the simple
> fact Apple is releasing new models every year and are doing their best to
> convince customers they have to upgrade goes against sustainability and
> environmental responsibility. Yes, they may be a leader in using renewable
> energy sources for their offices and putting recycled materials in their
> devices, but they still have to manufacture the stuff, transport it and the
> world has to deal with the electronic waste which is left behind. I think it
> would be a true show of commitment if Apple had announced that in order to
> cut back on all that is connected to this cycle, they are only going to
> release new iPhone, Apple Watch and iPad models every two years. I think
> this may result in a loss of revenue in the short term, but in the long term
> may not even matter that much because a lot of people nowadays only upgrade
> every 2 or 3 years or sometimes even longer. In fact, it would probably save
> Apple some money and they may sell a lot more of the phone models which came
> out after two years hence economies of scale would make a difference. It
> would also give them more time to truly come up with new models which are
> more different from the last. And now let's scale this approach up and apply
> it o other manufacturers of electronics who constantly release new models
> and even car manufacturers who release a new model each year. Companies and
> individuals alike want to do something good for the environment, but it
> stops when anybody has to maybe forgo buying something new or if something
> maybe costs a bit more. Another terrible example is all the fast fashion out
> there, some companies try to white wash this by pointing out that they use
> recycled material, but they continue to produce cheap junk which may look
> good if you wear it 2 or 3 times and after that it's designed to go into the
> trash; sort of like Jack Reacher who doesn't have a home and who instead of
> washing his T-Shirts, shirts and jeans throws them out when they are dirty
> and buys a new set and then he claims it is cheaper.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models
> had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it
> turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to
> compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience,
> are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents
> its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up
> with something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members
> will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced
> now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices
> on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro
> max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better
> and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.c

RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone X introduced Face Id and I think may have had the first OLED screen, 
but it was gone a year later and I have a feeling it was one of the less 
popular iPhones similar to the 5 and 7, 5S, 6S and 8 were the much better 
upgrades. I thought the same thing about the Apple Watch, but I think we'll 
upgrade from our series 5 to the new series 9 because I am not sure sure the 
Apple Watch 10 next year will be such a major update.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi. I got a 13 Pro last summer during some significant events for me.
It was a nice upgrade from my 11, but when my upgrade opportunity comes up 
again, I'm going to stick with the budget model (15, 16, or whatever it ends up 
being in the future). Having the people and object detection modes was nice, 
but I haven't used those at all. My circumstances have changed and I don't need 
the more advanced Pro model for my daily use. I will also hang onto my Series 6 
Apple Watch for another year. Next year will be the Series 10, and early 
indications in the rumor mill are that the Series 10 should be a good milestone 
for Apple, like the iPhone 10 was for the phones. I am anxiously awaiting the 
iOS 17 release, to see what's new in general, VoiceOver in particular, and 
enjoy the new software bells and whistles.

Best,
Wayne

On 9/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 
> models had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in 
> but, as it turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough 
> to compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live 
> audience, are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple 
> presents its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have 
> to come up with something to talk about between the presentations of the new 
> devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A 
> members will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am 
> convinced now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best 
> Smart devices on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 
> pro max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much 
> better and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an 
>> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both 
>> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>>
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
>>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
>>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired 
>>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
>>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
>>> Lightning adapter or a se

Re: today's Apple Event

[Wayne Merritt]

Hi. I got a 13 Pro last summer during some significant events for me.
It was a nice upgrade from my 11, but when my upgrade opportunity
comes up again, I'm going to stick with the budget model (15, 16, or
whatever it ends up being in the future). Having the people and object
detection modes was nice, but I haven't used those at all. My
circumstances have changed and I don't need the more advanced Pro
model for my daily use. I will also hang onto my Series 6 Apple Watch
for another year. Next year will be the Series 10, and early
indications in the rumor mill are that the Series 10 should be a good
milestone for Apple, like the iPhone 10 was for the phones. I am
anxiously awaiting the iOS 17 release, to see what's new in general,
VoiceOver in particular, and enjoy the new software bells and
whistles.

Best,
Wayne

On 9/14/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.
>
> A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.
>
> I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models
> had offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it
> turns out, no Touch ID, yet again.
>
> While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to
> compel me to upgrade from my beloved 14.
>
> The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience,
> are uninspiring and extremely jejune.
>
> While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents
> its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up
> with something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.
> Just my opinion of course.
>
> I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members
> will have this service included in the normal membership fee.
>
> I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.
> Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.
>
> While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced
> now, more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices
> on the market.
>
> I hope this finds you all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro
> max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better
> and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!
>
> On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an
>> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both
>> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joe Orozco
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>>
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired
>>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I
>>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired
>>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year,
>>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to
>>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the
>>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so
>>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of
>>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually
>>> ends up in the landfill as well.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>>> Of Alan Lemly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subj

RE: today's Apple Event

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Well, I have truly enjoyed reading this thread.

A special thanks to Sieghard for starting us off on this one.

I, too, was somewhat underwhelmed by this year's keynote.  If the 15 models had 
offered a new version of Touch ID,I would have been all in but, as it turns 
out, no Touch ID, yet again.

While I like the idea of an action button, said button is not enough to compel 
me to upgrade from my beloved 14.

The Apple keynote presentations, without the interaction of a live audience, 
are uninspiring and extremely jejune.

While I think every one wants the world to be carbon neutral, Apple presents 
its efforts as almost a filler; you know, as though they have to come up with 
something to talk about between the presentations of the new devices.  Just my 
opinion of course.

I love the new Roadside assistant program and the fact that triple A members 
will have this service included in the normal membership fee.

I laughed out loud at Richard's comment about the upgrades to the cameras.  
Priceless, Richard, truly priceless.

While the keynotes leave much to be desired, in my opinion, I am convinced now, 
more than ever before, that Apple does produce the best Smart devices on the 
market.

I hope this finds you all doing well.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13 pro max, 
and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much better and going 
from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!

On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an 
> iPhone 14 Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both 
> performance and battery life will be much better on the 15.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joe Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>
> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired 
>> ear buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the 
>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so 
>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of 
>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually 
>> ends up in the landfill as well.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Hi Sieghard,
>>
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>>
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C 
>> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting 
>> the action button?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
>> Of Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Rya

Re: today's Apple Event

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I would certainly upgrade.  I had an iPhone 8, and I upgraded to a 13
pro max, and the improvements are very cool.  The battery life is much
better and going from 256 GB to one TB is great!!!

On 9/13/23, tai.toma...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an iPhone 14
> Pro. The performance is significantly improved, and both performance and
> battery life will be much better on the 15.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe
> Orozco
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
>
> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired
>> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I
>> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear
>> buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle.
>> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year,
>> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>>
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to
>> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the
>> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so
>> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of
>> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually ends
>> up in the landfill as well.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> Hi Sieghard,
>>
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>>
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C
>> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting
>> the action button?
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf
>> Of Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
>> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sieghard et al,
>>
>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub
>> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m
>> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone
>> 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher
>> resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to
>> wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>
>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I
>> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I
>> just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits
>> for justifying such a purchase.
>> 
>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>  Albert Einstein
>>
>>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> And where are the days when at this tim

RE: today's Apple Event

[tai.tomasi8]

I definitely would. I used to have an SE 2020, and I now have an iPhone 14 Pro. 
The performance is significantly improved, and both performance and battery 
life will be much better on the 15.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joe 
Orozco
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe

On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired 
> earbuds with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I 
> wanted the passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear 
> buds, and I didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. 
> Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, 
> I’m not feeling too bad about it.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to 
> Lightning adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the 
> Earpods if you use them as often as I do have a limited life span so 
> many who may decide to get an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of 
> Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter eventually ends up 
> in the landfill as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>
> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C 
> connector would be more economical, just less green.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting 
> the action button?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Ryan Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
> or taking a picture.
> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
> 386-383-5175
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Sieghard et al,
>
> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 
> 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher 
> resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to 
> wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>
> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I 
> just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits 
> for justifying such a purchase.
> 
> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
> - “I think and think for months and years.”
> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>  Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of 
> a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the 
> Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really 
> surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Julian]

Hi Joe,

I am definitely planning to go for the 15 Pro. I currently have the SE 2022. 
I'm looking forward to playing with lidar and goodies like that. I will miss 
the convenience of touch ID, but what can we do, Apple has decided this is the 
path forward to stick with Face ID.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Joe Orozco  wrote:
> 
> Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe
> 
>> On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds
>> with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the
>> passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I
>> didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding
>> on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about
>> it.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning
>> adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use
>> them as often as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get
>> an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks
>> and then the adapter eventually ends up in the landfill as well.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> 
>> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>> 
>> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector
>> would be more economical, just less green.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the
>> action button?
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Ryan Mann
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>> 
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
>> taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect
>> a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
>> 386-383-5175
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
>> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Sieghard et al,
>> 
>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all
>> about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide
>> if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only
>> benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully
>> improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a
>> photo of a document would help that.
>> 
>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
>> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have
>> doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying
>> such a purchase.
>> 
>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>> Albert Einstein
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a
>> major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone
>> list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised
>> that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
>> 
>> --
>

Re: today's Apple Event

[Joe Orozco]

Would you guys upgrade to the 15 Pro if you were on an SE 2020?--Joe

On 9/13/23, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds
> with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the
> passive noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I
> didn’t want to have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding
> on to my iPhone 11 for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about
> it.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: today's Apple Event
>
> I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning
> adapter or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use
> them as often as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get
> an adapter then may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks
> and then the adapter eventually ends up in the landfill as well.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> Hi Sieghard,
>
> Both 15 Pro models have the action button.
>
> And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector
> would be more economical, just less green.
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
> 
> I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the
> action button?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: today's Apple Event
>
> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
> taking a picture.
> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect
> a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
> 386-383-5175
>
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik
> mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Sieghard et al,
>
> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all
> about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide
> if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only
> benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully
> improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a
> photo of a document would help that.
>
> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have
> doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying
> such a purchase.
> 
> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
> - “I think and think for months and years.”
> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>  Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a
> major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone
> list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised
> that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
>
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alex Stone]

On 13 Sep 2023, at 23:31, Brent Harding  wrote:It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally don’t have anything else that uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I don’t want to carry two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever where I might need to charge those as well as my phone. I thought I heard the Apple Watch charger was supposed to charge those through magsafe, but I can never get it positioned right on the Airpods case to make it work.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:58 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: today's Apple Event The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Star GazerSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: today's Apple Event That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t want to Bluetooth?  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Matt WhiteSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Ryan,  I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories.  Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175  On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote:Sieghard et al, After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of 

RE: today's Apple Event

[Brent Harding]

It will be a bit of a bummer for those of us with the lightning Airpods cases 
once one upgrades to the new phone. I literally don’t have anything else that 
uses lightning around here except that and the phone, and I don’t want to carry 
two cords when I visit family for a weekend or whatever where I might need to 
charge those as well as my phone. I thought I heard the Apple Watch charger was 
supposed to charge those through magsafe, but I can never get it positioned 
right on the Airpods case to make it work.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a 
much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Christopher Chaltain]

This past summer, before going on a road trip, I got a pair of wired earbuds 
with a lightning connector and passive noise cancellation. I wanted the passive 
noise cancellation for the road, I wanted wired ear buds, and I didn’t want to 
have to worry about a two inch dongle. Since I’ll be holding on to my iPhone 11 
for at least one more year, I’m not feeling too bad about it.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175



On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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Re: today's Apple Event

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

Regarding the excitement not being there has to do with so much being leaked 
well before the announcement.  As a result announcements are not as big as they 
used to be since they leak so much out by the media.

Matthew



On Sep 13, 2023, at 6:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Ryan 
Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175




On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein



On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think it matters whether you end up buying a USB-C to Lightning adapter 
or a set of USB-C Earpods especially since the Earpods if you use them as often 
as I do have a limited life span so many who may decide to get an adapter then 
may get a USB-Cset of Earpods when the current set breaks and then the adapter 
eventually ends up in the landfill as well.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Sieghard,

Both 15 Pro models have the action button.

And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would 
be more economical, just less green.

Alan

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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386-383-5175




On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein



On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
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where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The same way you now plug in your Lightning headset and in fact you'll have a 
much bigger choice of headsets as USB-C is a standard now.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One person who couldn't care less about "all that green stuff" as you call it 
is insignificant, but 100 Million or 1 Billion people not caring makes a big 
difference.
If one person threw their empty plastic water bottle out of the window driving 
along a highway it would be insignificant, but unfortunately thousands do it 
and the ditches along our roads are full of garbage. I live in a smal town in 
Northwestern British Columbia and every spring our local Christian Highschool 
cleans up a stretch of highway, just a few miles, but it's unbelievable how 
many garbage bags full of waste they collect each year and I just can't 
understand anybody who throws out even a scrap of paper. And then there are the 
moments when I walk along my typical route to work and kick a coffee cup 
somebody threw out of their window or maybe they dropped it walking along and 
it's 100 feet away from the public garbage bin. Humanity is far away from 
reducing waste and living a more sustainable lifestyle and unless a vast 
majority of people are prepared to do things which may cost extra or which may 
inconvenience them a little, we will never get there. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

On 9/13/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of 
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> surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe so, but my post now ignited a fairly active and fun discussion.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Sieghard.
I think 2 things are happening here. First, as others have pointed out, the 
excitement factor just isn't there as it once was. Second, not as many people 
seem to post on mailing lists as often. I seem to recall a similar sentiment 
about no one talking about the keynote last year either. Times change, a lot of 
this discussion can be found on social media.

Scott

On 9/13/23, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get 
> maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected 
> supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 
> (USB‑C) Pro Cable
> (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store.
> Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional 
> cables, adapters, and other accessories.
>
> Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording 
>> or taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could 
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard et al,
>>>
>>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
>>> is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
>>> trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 
>>> instead.
>>>  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution 
>>> camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder 
>>> just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>>
>>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
>>> will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess 
>>> I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any 
>>> benefits for justifying such a purchase.
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>>  Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day 
>>>> of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages 
>>>> from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? 
>>>> I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single 
>>>> one!
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But as with all things there will be cheaper and less expensive options in time 
and you really only need such a cable if you use a wired connection to a 
computer to transfer large files which most people don't do.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175



On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
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where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan, I absolutely agree that the camera performance plays a big role in their 
design and marketing because that is what people want.
The switch to USB-C is of course only a good thing, if I bought a new phone I 
wouldn't even have to bother about any cables because I have plenty of USB-C 
cables, chargers and batteries and in any case, I use wireless charging 95% of 
the time. I love the wired Earpods and they typically only last me a year or 
so, therefore I would simply buy one or two of the new USB-C wired Earpods. 
Anyways, despite of what I said earlier about being able to upgrade for a 
pretty favourable price if I traded in my iPhone 13 Pro, I most likely won't 
and instead we will probably get new Apple Watches. Initially I was thinking it 
might be better to wait until the 10th anniversary of the Apple Watch next 
year, but then again if you think back to the iPhone X, it was a fairly 
disappointing upgrade and they already have the new chips in this year's 9th 
Gen watches so I doubt whether there will be another new chip next year which 
will be that much better. If I had a 7th or 8th Gen watch maybe I'd think about 
it, but ours are fifth Generation, bought in 2019, so after 4 years I think 
we'd probably be quite happy with an upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hi Sieghard,

I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at 
least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. 
It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users 
can take amazing photos whether they are intelligent enough to understand 
anything about photography or heaven forbid even capable of using good language 
skills. And I expect the lack of excitement is indicative of a product which is 
reaching maturity as is the iPhone.

My favorite part of the event was the produced segment about Apple's 
environmental concerns and efforts featuring Octavia Spencer as Mother Nature. 
But then, that was more of a mini movie than a product announcement. I do 
appreciate the efforts Apple is making to be green and carbon neutral but I 
note that little has been said about all the cables and wired devices with 
lightning connectors that won't work with the new phones and their USB C ports. 
But that change wasn't a decision Apple made unilaterally or even voluntarily. 
I will note that the Apple Store does now offer a new adapter with lightning 
female and USB C male for those needing to use their wired lightning Earpods 
and other wired devices. I'll also note that this adapter costs $29 which is a 
big increase from the 3.5mm to lightning adapter introduced a few years back 
when they got rid of the headphone jack. That adapter was $9.95 as I recall.

I will be in no hurry to move from my iPhone 13 Mini to one of the iPhones 15 
or later.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, Both 15 Pro models have the action button. And I can't argue that getting new wired Earpods with the USB C connector would be more economical, just less green. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 4:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action button?
 


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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.


2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.


Ryan Mann


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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:




Sieghard et al,

 


After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I
 surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.

 


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits
 for justifying such a purchase.

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- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max are able to transfer at faster speeds, it was 
mentioned during the keynote and I wouldn't be surprised that any speed 
reduction is software based and if that is true then Apple could decide at any 
time to remove that bottleneck.
As I said before, for me the regular phones don't hold much appeal any more, 
it's the Pro phones where you really get the best features if you like to have 
them and if money is a concern then you are better of looking for a good deal 
on an iPhone 14 Pro rather than to get a regular iPhone 15.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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With all of the filtering done beforehand, these events are just not that 
exciting/surprising anymore. Too yes overpriced, like who would want to spend 
out of pocket almost 2mxn for an iPhone 15, when they're cheaper options 
out there? These newer iPhones would be afordable via plans from the carrier, 
in which they help you by absorbing the cost of the device, via your monthly 
billings. Yes the 15 with its USB-C is tempting, but I was reading yesterday on 
MacRumors that even though these will be USBC, they'll charge at the speed of 
lightning! So what's the fuss about then using a newer standard port, but with 
the old one's speeds?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 13 sep 2023, a la(s) 1:33 a.m., Marco Curralejo 
mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com>> escribió:

Overpriced and nothing really that exciting.

Seems to be a yearly occurrence. 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
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Hello Sieghard, and list.



Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?



I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once 
was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing 
grand, I don't think.



I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace 
it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a 
bit.

I have the 12 mini.



Thank you,



Terri
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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I might be wrong here, but I thought only the 15 Pro Max is getting the action 
button?

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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Alan, if the adapter costs $29 I would just buy the new wired Earpods with 
USB-C connector which Apple said during the presentation they will offer and I 
would imagine that they are also $29 and then you have a new headset for the 
same price and you don't have to deal with an adapter.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

Thank you.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Star Gazer,

If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, 
you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available 
at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, 
I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those 
to USB C.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


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mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Of course there is, they talked about it during the event as it is the only 
phone which gets the new action button and the periscope zoom lense.

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There is even no iphone15 pro max?

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Kimberly Gardner
Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Flor Lynch]

There is. Apple talked about it, and there are articles you can find on 
Appple.com about it.



On 9/13/2023 9:56 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote:

There is even no iphone15 pro max?

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Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
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Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple watch and 
couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I care about the 
environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these 
new devices.

Kim

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As for actually buying a new phone that all depends on what you have now. In 
the last few years I usually purchased last year's Pro phone because I find 
more and  more that you end up getting a better phone for the same or even less 
money. Consider last year's iPhone 14 and the 2021 iPhone 13 Pro. The iPhone 14 
last year did not get the A16 processor, only the 14 Pro and Pro Max got the 
A16 and again this year only the 15 Pro and Pro Max get the A17 chip. Last 
year's iPhone 14 still had the A15 chip which is the same as the iPhone 13 Pro 
and this year's iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have the A16 chip, same as what the 
iPhone 14 Pro had last year.
I haven't checked in detail if there is a change regarding LiDAR, it used to be 
that only Pro phones had the LiDAR sensor so this means if you bought an iPhone 
14 or 14 Plus last year you would get a phone with the same chip as an iPhone 
13 Pro, but you wouldn't have LiDAR whereas the iPhone 13 Pro has LiDAR which 
allows for features like door detection and so on.
We bought our iPhone 13 Pro when during
Cyber Monday last year my carrier, Telus in Canada, offered them for $18 a 
month for 2 years with no downpayment and I think the buy-out price after two 
years if we wanted to keep the phones is $390. This means I will pay $432 over 
two years and then if I buy out the phone for $390 I would have paid a total of 
$822 for an iPhone 13 Pro. Keep in mind this is in Canadian Dollars and we have 
the 256 Gb model which I believe was $1,129 here in Canada so getting it for 
$300 less is not too bad of a deal.
Right now I checked and if I used the Apple trade-in program, they would give 
me $615 Canadian for my iPhone 13 Pro and I'd almost may have to consider it 
because if I pay out the balance of what I owe it means I pay $822 and get $615 
so the phone would have cost me $207. By the time I would get my new iPhone I 
would have had my iPhone 13 Pro for 10 months so essentially it would have cost 
me $20 a months and my purchase price for an iPhone 15 Pro 128 Gb which is 
plenty big enough for my purposes would be $834 after the trade in, here in 
Canada the full purchase price is $1,449. I would then have a phone with the 
new A17 chip which uses the new 3 Nanometer architecture and has USB-C and I 
assume I'd probably be quite happy with that phone for the next 3-4 years.
But we are also thinking of new Apple Watches since we have the Apple Watch 5th 
Gen which is now 4 years old so I think upgrading to a 9th Gen Apple Watch with 
the new chip would be most likely a bigger upgrade for us than upgrading from 
an iPhone 13 Pro to a 15 Pro; I also like the idea of the new gestures like 
pressing 2 fingers together for answering a call etc. The 45mm Aluminum Watch 
with Cellular I think was $769 here in Canada and I assume we could still get 
$200 or $250 for our Apple Watch 5. Just have to run all the numbers and see 
what we want to do; if we do only 1 device then definitely the watch this year, 
also planning a trip to the Philippines to visit my wife's family and for our 
10th anniversary since we got married there so we'll see.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:58 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

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RE: today's Apple Event

[davycuppens]

There is even no iphone15 pro max?

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Kimberly Gardner
Verzonden: woensdag 13 september 2023 16:58
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: today's Apple Event

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

Star Gazer, 

 

If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, 
you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available 
at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, 
I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those 
to USB C. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 






On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein






On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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Re: today's Apple Event

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Star Gazer, If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those to USB C. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:    That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t want to Bluetooth?  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt WhiteSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:Hi Ryan,  I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories.  Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175 On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik <wfgal...@gmail.com> wrote:Sieghard et al, After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that. I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert EinsteinOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web vis

RE: today's Apple Event

[tai.tomasi8]

I believe we can plug in USB C headphones

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

 

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

 

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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[Christopher Chaltain]

There are already USB-C headphones out there since other manufacturers dropped 
the audio jack and didn’t use the proprietary Lightning connector. I think I’ve 
also read that Apple, and I’m sure others, have a Lightning to USB-C adapter.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: today's Apple Event

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Matt 
White
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly 
mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories.

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com>> wrote:
There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.
2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com<mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com>
386-383-5175


On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik 
mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

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[Star Gazer]

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matt 
White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 





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Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein





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RE: today's Apple Event

[Christopher Chaltain]

Since we're tossing out our opinions here, I do care about the work Apple and 
others are doing with carbon footprints and green initiatives. There's only so 
much individuals can do, so companies like Apple need to be a big part of the 
solution. Since this feels a little off topic to me, I won't espouse my 
feelings on our responsibilities as custodians of our planets and the legacy we 
leave to our children.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
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I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

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Gardner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I can say 
that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in getting an apple 
watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon neutral stuff. Of course I 
care about the environment, but none of that green-washing is going to change 
my mind about any of these new devices.

Kim

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I also could care less about the green crap that was the most boring part of 
the event.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I
can say that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in
getting an apple watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon
neutral stuff. Of course I care about the environment, but none of
that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these new
devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Alan Lemly]

To get USB 3 speeds, I believe a different, more expensive cable is required. But I don't use a Mac, am unfamiliar with the speed differences between USB 2 and 3, so am not in a position to comment further. A standard USB C cable can certainly be used with the iPhone 15 models since they have the standard sized USB C port, but another cable is needed with the Pro models to get maximum transfer speed. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:06 AM, Matt White  wrote:It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or soSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly  wrote:Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Please don't hijack threads by replying to a post discussing Apple's iPhone event yesterday and changing the subject to how to copy and paste a link. This really messes up the thread for those of us who manage our email by thread. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:59 AM, realman02 via VIPhone  wrote:Hi. I need to copy a link from an email and paste it into a podcast app to regain my subscription to a podcast. I did it once but have forgotten how to do that. How do I copy a link form an email and paste it into a podcast app (overcast)?Thanks. John Riehl 



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Re: today's Apple Event

[Kimberly Gardner]

I thought the exact same thing. But having watched the "big event" I
can say that my reaction was a huge yawn. I have zero interest in
getting an apple watch and couldn't care less about all the carbon
neutral stuff. Of course I care about the environment, but none of
that green-washing is going to change my mind about any of these new
devices.

Kim

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Scott Davert]

Sieghard.
I think 2 things are happening here. First, as others have pointed
out, the excitement factor just isn't there as it once was. Second,
not as many people seem to post on mailing lists as often. I seem to
recall a similar sentiment about no one talking about the keynote last
year either. Times change, a lot of this discussion can be found on
social media.

Scott

On 9/13/23, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> Hi Ryan,
>
> I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum
> speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported
> devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable
> (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store.
> Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables,
> adapters, and other accessories.
>
> Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st position
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann 
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.
>> 1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or
>> taking a picture.
>> 2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could
>> connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.
>> Ryan Mann
>> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
>> rmann0...@gmail.com
>> 386-383-5175
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sieghard et al,
>>>
>>> After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is
>>> all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to
>>> decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.
>>>  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera
>>> to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much
>>> more clear a photo of a document would help that.
>>>
>>> I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will
>>> concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just
>>> have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for
>>> justifying such a purchase.
>>> 
>>> - Bill from Northern Wisconsin
>>> - “I think and think for months and years.”
>>> - “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
>>> - “The hundredth time I am right.”
>>>  Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
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Hi Ryan, I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and other accessories. Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and    , at the 431st positionSent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann  wrote:There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

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Hi Sieghard, I have to agree with Bill that it seemed obvious that most of the excitement at least to the sighted world is all about the camera enhancements and features. It almost sounds as if Apple's ultimate goal is to design a phone so that users can take amazing photos whether they are intelligent enough to understand anything about photography or heaven forbid even capable of using good language skills. And I expect the lack of excitement is indicative of a product which is reaching maturity as is the iPhone. My favorite part of the event was the produced segment about Apple's environmental concerns and efforts featuring Octavia Spencer as Mother Nature. But then, that was more of a mini movie than a product announcement. I do appreciate the efforts Apple is making to be green and carbon neutral but I note that little has been said about all the cables and wired devices with lightning connectors that won't work with the new phones and their USB C ports. But that change wasn't a decision Apple made unilaterally or even voluntarily. I will note that the Apple Store does now offer a new adapter with lightning female and USB C male for those needing to use their wired lightning Earpods and other wired devices. I'll also note that this adapter costs $29 which is a big increase from the 3.5mm to lightning adapter introduced a few years back when they got rid of the headphone jack. That adapter was $9.95 as I recall. I will be in no hurry to move from my iPhone 13 Mini to one of the iPhones 15 or later. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







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Re: today's Apple Event

[Gerardo Corripio]

With all of the filtering done beforehand, these events are just not that exciting/surprising anymore. Too yes overpriced, like who would want to spend out of pocket almost 2mxn for an iPhone 15, when they're cheaper options out there? These newer iPhones would be afordable via plans from the carrier, in which they help you by absorbing the cost of the device, via your monthly billings. Yes the 15 with its USB-C is tempting, but I was reading yesterday on MacRumors that even though these will be USBC, they'll charge at the speed of lightning! So what's the fuss about then using a newer standard port, but with the old one's speeds?GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 13 sep 2023, a la(s) 1:33 a.m., Marco Curralejo  escribió:Overpriced and nothing really that exciting. Seems to be a yearly occurrence.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri StimmelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you really all that surprised?Or, were you being sarcastic? I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing grand, I don't think. I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a bit.I have the 12 mini. Thank you, TerriOn 9/13/2023 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB8922DFC5E5D24DF55486D8A0A8F0A%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: today's Apple Event

[Ryan Mann]

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking a picture.2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.Ryan MannCertified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialistrmann0...@gmail.com386-383-5175On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik  wrote:Sieghard et al,After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.
I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a purchase.- Bill from Northern Wisconsin- “I think and think for months and years.”- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”- “The hundredth time I am right.” Albert Einstein

On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: today's Apple Event

[Lisa Belville]

Hi, Bill.  I just upgraded from a 12 Pro to a 14 Pro.  I read the rumors 
about the new iPhones and decided the 14 Pro would be enough of an 
improvement from my old phone.



It's faster, naturally, and the updated LiDar is neat, but otherwise, it 
wasn't a a huge step up from the 12 Pro phone.



The only major difference with the 15 models would be no lightening 
cable.  Even with the 14 Pro, the cable has a lightening tip at one end 
and a USB-C tip at the other end.  I had to get a charging brick for it 
at Verizon because the older ones with the larger USB ports wouldn't work.



Oh, and that was the other deal breaker. . . I got a substantial amount 
for trading in my old phone, so my current bill is reduced by about $30 
a month.



If you are going pre-paid, it won't matter, but it is something to add 
to the mix.



Lisa


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On 9/13/2023 3:57 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub 
is all about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m 
trying to decide if I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 
14 instead.  The only benefit I surmise from the 15 is the higher 
resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR processing.  But I have to 
wonder just how much more clear a photo of a document would help that.


I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I 
will concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I 
just have doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits 
for justifying such a purchase.


- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein



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really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single 
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Re: today's Apple Event

[Bill Gallik]

Sieghard et al,

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein


> On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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Re: today's Apple Event

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Oh, how people do love to whine!On 13 Sep 2023, at 08:33, Marco Curralejo  wrote:Overpriced and nothing really that exciting. Seems to be a yearly occurrence.  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri StimmelSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 3:32 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: today's Apple Event Hello Sieghard, and list. Are you really all that surprised?Or, were you being sarcastic? I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing grand, I don't think. I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a bit.I have the 12 mini. Thank you, TerriOn 9/13/2023 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I came home tonight there was not a single one!-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56568F4A8AB902CF2F004170C7F0A%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/BY3PR05MB8922DFC5E5D24DF55486D8A0A8F0A%40BY3PR05MB8922.namprd05.prod.outlook.com.



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RE: today's Apple Event

[Marco Curralejo]

Overpriced and nothing really that exciting.

  

Seems to be a yearly occurrence. 

  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
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Hello Sieghard, and list.

  

Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?

  

I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there once 
was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. But nothing 
grand, I don't think.

  

I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just replace 
it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this phone quite a 
bit.

I have the 12 mini.

  

Thank you,

  

Terri

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Re: today's Apple Event

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello Sieghard, and list.


Are you really all that surprised?

Or, were you being sarcastic?


I feel that there are not a lot of messages on the releases, like there 
once was, because really not much has changed. Some changes, certainly. 
But nothing grand, I don't think.



I am actually trying to decide if I want to upgrade my phone, or just 
replace it's battery. The battery needs to be replaced. But I like this 
phone quite a bit.


I have the 12 mini.


Thank you,


Terri

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today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And where are the days when at this time of the evening on the day of a major 
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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Gerardo Corripio]

And for the SE, both 1st and 2nd Generation? I’ve always been curious of this 
info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 18 sep 2021, a la(s) 9:25 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> 
> I found this list through the 12 series of the MAH of each model.  It is 
> listed according to the size of the battery.  Interesting stuff and the 13’s 
> are supposed to have better battery usage because of the new chip, etc.
> Apple iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
> Apple iPhone 12 mini: 2227 mAh
> Apple iPhone XS: 2658 mAh
> Apple iPhone 8 Plus: 2691 mAh
> Apple iPhone X: 2716 mAh
> Apple iPhone 6s Plus: 2750 mAh (Li-Polymer)
> Apple iPhone 7 Plus: 2900 mAh
> Apple iPhone 6 Plus: 2915 mAh (Li-Polymer)
> Apple iPhone XR: 2942 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11: 3110 mAh
> Apple iPhone XS Max: 3174 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11 Pro: 3190 mAh
> Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max: 3500 mAh
> Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max: 3687 mAh
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
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>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 3:58 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
> do better?
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
> hour more
> And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
> Something like that.
>  
> I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
> are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little 
> bigger.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
> battery between the pro and pro max.
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
> rumors were wrong.
>  
> But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of 
> a surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads 
> being part of today’s event.
>  
> I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle 
> for taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
> The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two 
> new iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture 
> taking when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forwa

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

I found this list through the 12 series of the MAH of each model.  It is listed 
according to the size of the battery.  Interesting stuff and the 13’s are 
supposed to have better battery usage because of the new chip, etc.
Apple iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
Apple iPhone 12 mini: 2227 mAh
Apple iPhone XS: 2658 mAh
Apple iPhone 8 Plus: 2691 mAh
Apple iPhone X: 2716 mAh
Apple iPhone 6s Plus: 2750 mAh (Li-Polymer)
Apple iPhone 7 Plus: 2900 mAh
Apple iPhone 6 Plus: 2915 mAh (Li-Polymer)
Apple iPhone XR: 2942 mAh
Apple iPhone 11: 3110 mAh
Apple iPhone XS Max: 3174 mAh
Apple iPhone 11 Pro: 3190 mAh
Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max: 3500 mAh
Apple iPhone 12 Pro Max: 3687 mAh




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 3:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
do better?

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more
And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
Something like that.

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C380867bb7f8a48c3080408d97a932e20%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637675594824150375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=WcbRq7AYfP5ACOgQWJ7tey5CMLVS0ed66wwTEvfXfPM%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C380867bb7f8a48c3080408d97a932e20%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637675594824150375%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=WcbRq7AYfP5ACOgQWJ7tey5CMLVS0ed66wwTEvfXfPM%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Mo

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[davycuppens]

I believe the 10r still has the best battery autonomy maybe the iphone13 will 
do better?

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 23:37
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more

And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?

Something like that.

 

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
 Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

 

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

 

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7Cb452611db49a4d71935f08d977c2ea19%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672501311926383%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=wwZvmjmX5pbyZteA303YqGWMGNwEUUW6sFX%2F%2B28C22o%3D=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Frank Ventura]

Wow now that is an awesome ring tone!

> On Sep 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Simon,
> 
> How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
> Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a
> motorcycle kickstart.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>> 
>> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in
>> donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is
>> working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from
>> (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will
>> provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak
>> and, in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan
>> Africa.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
>> A Fogarty
>> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Is it covid 19
>> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Merritt
>> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
>> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
>> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>> 
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>> 
>> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> Carolyn,
>>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is
>>> a light Sky Blue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Carolyn
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>> 
>>> Simon,
>>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their
>>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>> 
>>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>> 
>>> My Web site:
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
>>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
>>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
>>> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Wednesday, Septembe

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kelly,

Hey with the hacks that are out,

I might be watching you! Rotfl 

But really, couldn't you have used meatloafs bat out of hell?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Saturday, 18 September 2021 5:53 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,

How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a motorcycle 
kickstart.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>
> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 
> million in donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through 
> June 30, Apple is working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of 
> eligible proceeds from (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s 
> COVID‑19 Response. This will provide critical support to health 
> systems most threatened by the outbreak and, in turn, help preserve 
> lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan Africa.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Is it covid 19
> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Carolyn,
>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue 
>> is a light Sky Blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Simon,
>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>
>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>> t 
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867
>> % 
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnk
>> n 
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWw
>> i 
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1
>> q
>> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty g

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Simon,

How did you know I have a ringtone of Mötley Crüe’s   Kickstart My
Heart as a ringtone? It starts with a guitar sounding like a
motorcycle kickstart.

Kelly



On 9/16/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:
>
> For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in
> donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is
> working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from
> (PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will
> provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak
> and, in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan
> Africa.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Is it covid 19
> I thought it was toward  aids research.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
> contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
> pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.
>
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Carolyn,
>> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is
>> a light Sky Blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> Simon,
>> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
>> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their
>> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
>> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>>
>> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
>> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
>> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>> it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
>> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
>> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
>> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
>> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
>> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
>> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>>
>>
>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here part of an article on 9to5Mac:

For 14 years, our partnership with (RED) has led to almost $250 million in 
donations to fund HIV/AIDS treatment programs. Now through June 30, Apple is 
working with (RED) to redirect 100 percent of eligible proceeds from 
(PRODUCT)RED purchases to the Global Fund’s COVID‑19 Response. This will 
provide critical support to health systems most threatened by the outbreak and, 
in turn, help preserve lifesaving HIV/AIDS programs in sub-Saharan Africa.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: September 16, 2021 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Is it covid 19
I thought it was toward  aids research.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Kelly,

I hope the new phones don't sound like ahrleys 

That would be off putting some what.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 4:09 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black leather case 
reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black leather jackets and blue 
jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I 
am a Nia list so black goes with my personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Seri

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Is it covid 19 
I thought it was toward  aids research.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:25 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now 
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19 
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is 
> a light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their 
> colors, she says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1q
> uf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t
> urner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMU
> hhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Wayne Merritt]

All due respect to fashion, but if you get a red phone, you are now
contributing 10% of the purchase price to fighting the global Covid-19
pandemic. That was why I got a red iPhone 11 last year.

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Oh yes, to my delight, I read the sky blue - F I N E! 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 12:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

The blue for the regular iPhone and the mini paired with a black
leather case reminds me of rugged men on motorcycles wearing black
leather jackets and blue jeans.  It will be either a blue or Midnight
for me. My iPhone 7 is black and I am a Nia list so black goes with my
personality.

Kelly




On 9/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Carolyn,
> IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a
> light Sky Blue...
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Carolyn
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I was hoping the blue was sky blue.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Simon,
> You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
> My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she
> says, are in the pastel hews.
> It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.
>
> The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
> They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue.
> Interesting they don't make up a name for the regular blue...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> What is  the sierra blue?
>
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Wat

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

Carolyn,
IN a later message, I pointed out that my wife said the Sierra Blue is a light 
Sky Blue...





Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710074857%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tnbW40wFXBOusq9GMHbCA1K2zCJyUl4yi0Jz1quf4%2BI%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00970930920a4f96fa5608d9792a0867%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674043710084814%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tno%2BTEYJ8H7lq3iMuJd84Ay2pao%2B%2FSMUhhK3JWQGjX4%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I was hoping the blue was sky blue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00a7d84b658446ed53ce08d9789b0fc1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673429650333402%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=9AGSgySavQsoGmiG31SkeSMZkVinNuzK84%2B4rYPpepQ%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I would not want a red phone. I remember, when I had partial sight, and my aunt 
and uncle had a red on on their wall. This was in the 50's, when colored phones 
were not common, but I did not like the look of that red phone. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 6:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think i

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Angie Nutt]

I never use a case and don’t care about coordinating it with my clothing as 
it’s in  a bag when I’m out.

I can see a little; don’t know if I’d care about the colour if I couldn’t; 
doubt it though.

All the best
Angie


> On 15 Sep 2021, at 17:46, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>>> will be getting!
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>>> with it.”
>>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>> 
>>>>> My Web site:
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>>&

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[lenron brown]

If I could I would probably go for that Sierra blue. There is just no
way I am upgrading my watch and phone right now though. Right now I
have the normal blue watch and blue phone.

On 9/15/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.
>
> Cheers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna
> Casteen
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.
>
> Donna
>
>>
>> What is  the sierra blue?
>>
>> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of
>> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>> with it.” – Jane Wagner
>>
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>>
>>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose
>>>> sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I
>>>> will be getting!
>>>>
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>>
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
>>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the
>>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is
>>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch
>>>>> with it.”
>>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>>
>>>>> My Web site:
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>>> w
>>>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856
>>>>> f
>>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576
>>>>> %
>>>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLC

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok, that's a pastel blue from memory.

Cheers.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 11:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.” – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> My Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w 
>>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856
>>>> f 
>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576
>>>> %
>>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI
>>>> 6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%
>>>> 2
>>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>> 
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS
>>>> 15 will be released to the public? I 

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Donna Casteen]

Sierra blue is like a baby blue in hue.

Donna

> 
> What is  the sierra blue?
> 
> Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of 
> colours but it's not one I've heard of before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> How about Sierra Blue?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
> 
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. 
> I would be open to purple though.
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>>> getting!
>>> 
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>> 
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>> 
>>>> My Web site: 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>> 
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>>> date.
>>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>>> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
>>>> potentially deal with public be

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

Simon,
You have to remember, Apple makes up names for their colors.
My wife describes Sierra Blue as a light Sky Blue.  All of their colors, she 
says, are in the pastel hews.  
It is only on the 13 pro and pro max.

The regular 13 and 13 mini have Midnight, which is basically black.
They also have a "blue" that is a darker blue than the Sierra Blue. Interesting 
they don't make up a name for the regular blue...






Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C00a7d84b658446ed53ce08d9789b0fc1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673429650333402%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=9AGSgySavQsoGmiG31SkeSMZkVinNuzK84%2B4rYPpepQ%3Dreserved=0


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

What is  the sierra blue?

Having had sight till 22 I have a pretty good I think understanding of colours 
but it's not one I've heard of before.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 2:43 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww
>>> .turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f
>>> 7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%
>>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6
>>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2
>>> FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 
>>> 15 will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid 
>>> next week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact 
>>> date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
>>> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to 
>>> potentially deal with public beta issues since I only have one 
>>> device and I need it to function and I am curious to read the final 
>>> verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 
>>> 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>&

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah I spoke to apple about the s7 watch yesterday,

I asked what the star light colour was and she said that it's a cream type 
colour 
A combination between gold and silver.

Which is what Richard said yesterday.

Again a colour to attract the Asian / Chinese market who like the bling colours.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Gerardo Corripio]

I’m trying to remember but my IPHone 5S, and SE 1st Generation were Space Gray. 
This SE 2nd Generation, I wanted it Space Gray too, but they only had it in 
Product Red, but have a black case for it.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 15 sep 2021, a la(s) 5:42 p.m., Simon A Fogarty  
> escribió:
> 
> I always get space grey or black,
> 
> Then put a wallet case around it
> 
> To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.
> 
> And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or 
> most of the time.
> 
> But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
> with.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
> see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
> those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
> coordinated with your clothing as well?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
> 
> Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
> 12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from 
> the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a 
> pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It 
> would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about 
> regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> How about Sierra Blue?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kelly Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
>> black. I would be open to purple though.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> Angie
>>> 
>>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>>> will be getting!
>>>> 
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>>> since the new phones

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

I always get space grey or black,

Then put a wallet case around it

To keep cards and things in there as well as great protection.

And yeah I guess I pretty much wear black or dark colours all the time. Or most 
of the time.

But that's more it's just easy to accessorise if I knew what to accessorise 
with.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 4:46 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

The SE comes in white red and black,

One of the 13 models has  a silver I believe 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2021 5:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>&g

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

I have a turquoise case for my black 11. Back when I had a rose gold phone, I 
had a transparent case. I do like colored phones - would like to have white, 
gold, or silver next go, if it is available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kelly Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 12:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sabrina Markel]

I’m totally happy with my IPhone 7 and don’t plan to upgrade anytime soon.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And by the time you stick your phone in a case which most of us do you don't 
see much of the colour any more unless of course you use a clear case. Are 
those of you who are so hung up on just the right colour that colour 
coordinated with your clothing as well?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: September 15, 2021 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue from the 
dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13 colors had a pastel 
quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in the iPhone 12. It would go 
great with a black leather iPhone case.  I want to learn more about regular 13 
blue. I am oscillating between blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new 
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall 
>>> to update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and 
>>> then it turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully 
>>> next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get 
>>> her hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new 
>>> bells and whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my 
>>> old Series 4 watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new 
>>> Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out 
>>> some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I 
>>> will be getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th 
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the 
>>>> first day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is 
>>>> safe to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww
>>>> w.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d9785
>>>> 6f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376731371898305
>>>> 76%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB
>>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1D
>>>> j5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event 

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Carolyn]

Thanks for that clarification - definitely makes sense for the starlight. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.

That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?

What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

 

She also said all the colors are pastels.

Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.

 

 

HTH,

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Richard,

 

Thanks 

But to me,

Gold is gold,

Starlight is what you see at night

And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

 

Cheers.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

>From one web source it says about the colors:

The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.

First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.

I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.

Purple: azure blue

Pink: golden pink

Starlight: Gold

Space Gray: sidereal grey

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>
 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

 

And usb-c will be a major bonus 

 

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting 

 

But can someone tell me,

 

What colour is star light?

 

I understand pink purple and space grey,

But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out 

Like a night sky.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

 

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
past behavior, it will be available at

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Sierra Blue is only available for the pro models. The regular 12 and
12 Mini has a blue color, but some have described it as a lighter blue
from the dark navy blue of the iPhone 12. The description was the 13
colors had a pastel quality to them.  I liked the navy blue color in
the iPhone 12. It would go great with a black leather iPhone case.  I
want to learn more about regular 13 blue. I am oscillating between
blue and midnight.

Kelly



On 9/15/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> How about Sierra Blue?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
> black. I would be open to purple though.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
>> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours
>> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in
>> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch
>> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope
>> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>>
>> All the best
>> Angie
>>
>>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>>> getting!
>>>
>>> Kindly,
>>> Wayne Merritt
>>>
>>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume
>>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th
>>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first
>>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe
>>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>>> it.”
>>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>>
>>>> My Web site:
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>>
>>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>>> will
>>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>>> but
>>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this
>>>> time,
>>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>>> with
>>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>>> function
>>>> and I am curi

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

How about Sierra Blue?




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new black. I 
would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours 
> when available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in 
> pink. As it is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 
> 5 for another year at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope 
> the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and 
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, 
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for 
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through 
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to 
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it 
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next 
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her 
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and 
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware 
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the 
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be 
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume 
>>> from past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  
>>> since the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first 
>>> day they will be in people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
>>> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: 
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C557c2fc5e278456ff97f08d97856f7da%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637673137189830576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=kgEA8kmL4R0xh2ExTycgV1Dj5T%2FEVABmFwzl3FPutP8%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>>> those who think they always have to have the latest

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

No pink for me. I want a masculine looking iPhone. Midnight is the new
black. I would be open to purple though.



Kelly



On 9/15/21, Angie Nutt  wrote:
> Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when
> available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it
> is, I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year
> at least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t
> tempt me. LOL
>
> All the best
> Angie
>
>> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>>
>> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
>> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
>> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
>> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
>> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
>> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
>> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
>> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
>> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
>> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
>> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
>> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
>> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
>> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
>> getting!
>>
>> Kindly,
>> Wayne Merritt
>>
>> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from
>>> past
>>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be
>>> in
>>> people’s hands.
>>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
>>> it.”
>>> – Jane Wagner
>>>
>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15
>>> will
>>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week,
>>> but
>>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal
>>> with
>>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to
>>> function
>>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what
>>> the
>>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just
>>> 1
>>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>>>
>>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in
>>> Australia
>>> and was not impressed.
>>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading
>>> any
>>> hardware this year

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Angie Nutt]

Glad I’m not the only one who goes for phones with particular colours when 
available. If I was planning to upgrade I’d have the 13 mini in pink. As it is, 
I got 12 mini in red last year. Plan to keep my Watch 5 for another year at 
least provided nothing goes wrong with it. Hope the pink mini doesn’t tempt me. 
LOL

All the best
Angie

> On 14 Sep 2021, at 21:26, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and
> WatchOS releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear,
> which is an iPhone 11 and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for
> the iPhone is February of next year, which is nearly halfway through
> the September release cycle, so I may as well wait until next Fall to
> update. I used to be one of those update every year crew, and then it
> turned into update to last year's model each year. Hopefully next
> year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose sensor.
> My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her
> hands on a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and
> whistles. She just wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4
> watch. So aside from her purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware
> for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 15 and trying out some of the
> features and enhancements. That's one new thing that I will be
> getting!
> 
> Kindly,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
> On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past
>> behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new
>> phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in
>> people’s hands.
>> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to
>> count on the 24th at the latest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>> – Jane Wagner
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will
>> be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but
>> thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
>> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time,
>> last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with
>> public beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function
>> and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the
>> main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1
>> generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year
>> increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than
>> those who think they always have to have the latest.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Sadam Ahmed
>> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>> 
>> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
>> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia
>> and was not impressed.
>> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any
>> hardware this year.
>> Sincerely,
>> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>> 
>> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel
>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>> 
>> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an
>> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an
>> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>> 
>> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini
>> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would
>> consider and neither is the iPhon

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Kelly Pierce]

Apple has to have some kind of gold color. The Chinese people
culturally are drawn to gold and highly value items in gold. China
currently is Apple’s biggest market and the company sells more iPhones
there now than in the United States. Yet, different iPhone series need
to look different so people can differentiate between a 12 and 13.
That’s why this year’s gold will look different from the iPhone 12
gold.

Kelly



On 9/14/21, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Interesting thought,
>
> I wouldn’t have thought of the star light as creamy coloured
> But that kind of fits with the gold colour you mentioned earlier.
>
> But yeah my recollection of stars is more like a silver twinkle
> But then hey I’ve never been over 3000 feet,
> But our skys might be a bit clearer than some of the skys around the USA.
>
>
> Thanks Richard,
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:51 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white
> color.  Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
> That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming
> from a star, right?
> What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at
> around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream
> is a good comparison for starlight.
>
> She also said all the colors are pastels.
> Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space
> Gray a medium to light gray.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Richard,
>
> Thanks
> But to me,
> Gold is gold,
> Starlight is what you see at night
> And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.
>
> Cheers.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> From one web source it says about the colors:
> [Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
> First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to
> golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed
> these color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
> I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in
> respective order n\in that list.
> Purple: azure blue
> Pink: golden pink
> Starlight: Gold
> Space Gray: sidereal grey
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site:
> https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,
>
> And usb-c will be a major bonus
>
> And the full screen without the home button will be interesting
>
> But can someone tell me,
>
> What colour is star light?
>
> I understand pink purple and space grey,
> But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through
> out
> Like a night sky.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Su

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Interesting thought,

I wouldn’t have thought of the star light as creamy coloured
But that kind of fits with the gold colour you mentioned earlier.

But yeah my recollection of stars is more like a silver twinkle
But then hey I’ve never been over 3000 feet,
But our skys might be a bit clearer than some of the skys around the USA.


Thanks Richard,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:51 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?
What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.
Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.


HTH,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:ri

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeha I’m listening to the iphone 13 and mini presentation now and so far 
nothing on lidar

And yeah so far I’m only slightly impressed by the iPad mini
Everything else is just standard.

However I am in the situation where I need a new watch,

But I’m not sure the 7 is worth while updating to.

I might just go s E




From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 7:19 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

My sighted wife, who is a quilter, says that Starlight is a creamy white color. 
 Think of the color of cream and that is pretty darn close.
That makes sense, because Starlight implies the color of the light coming from 
a star, right?
What I remember from my sighted first 12 years, camping in the mountains at 
around 8000 feet, when the stars seemed almost close enough to touch, cream is 
a good comparison for starlight.

She also said all the colors are pastels.
Their purple she said is a light lavender.  Pink, a lighter pink.  Space Gray a 
medium to light gray.


HTH,

Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 3:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C5a0167ae23e44c966cce08d977cd1a4f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672545074630467%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=iu1gDtJdWcOvaPgCNQq77t0OVgQzBBfh4OK0zLpF9x8%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

I noticed with the minis that they have a smart cover,

Ok, but what about a smart keyboard folio?

A good apple smart folio keyboard is something I’d love for my mini,



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is st

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,

Thanks
But to me,
Gold is gold,
Starlight is what you see at night
And here in nz night is pretty dark but with sparkles.

Cheers.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 10:10 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey

HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C8a1350a29e2c4d0fa0bb08d977c9f5f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672531574923444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=RJHiWHpvBYlyK8EDMjEVchahuF%2BjhJk5C0keC1OPK1w%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts aft

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

>From one web source it says about the colors:
[Apple iPad mini 6th]The various color schemes for the new Apple iPad mini.
First of all we have four color schemes at our disposal. Be it azure blue to 
golden pink, gold, as well as more sober sidereal grey. Apple has dubbed these 
color schemes Purple, Pink, Starlight, and Space Gray.
I think that means Apple is calling Gold, Starlight if you take them in 
respective order n\in that list.
Purple: azure blue
Pink: golden pink
Starlight: Gold
Space Gray: sidereal grey
HTH,


Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com<mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C8a1350a29e2c4d0fa0bb08d977c9f5f9%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637672531574923444%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=RJHiWHpvBYlyK8EDMjEVchahuF%2BjhJk5C0keC1OPK1w%3D=0>


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 

Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[CHELA Robles]

I thought that the audio descriptions were really helpful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> 
> Alexa can’t airplay or airplay2,
>  
> But the device that alexa is on may be able to airplay,
>  
> It’s the hardware that has the airplay built in not the software feature of 
> the device.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:56 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I don't think so.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
> Gazer
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
> need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all 
> sound surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't 
> be overcome.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> davycupp...@gmail.com
> Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
> battery between the pro and pro max.
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
> rumors were wrong.
>  
> But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of 
> a surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads 
> being part of today’s event.
>  
> I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle 
> for taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
> The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two 
> new iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture 
> taking when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
> – Jane Wagner
>  
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>  
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
> iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
> Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.
>  
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini 
> sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would 
> consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
> systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro 
> Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this 
> is of little relevance.
>  
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
> iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
> don't think so.
>  
> Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
> year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
> more compelling new features.
>  
> Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
> mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new 
> headset for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release 
> their headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also 
> looking at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new 
> high efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if 
> I want to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our 
> current ones for another 10 years 藍
>  
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

Alexa can’t airplay or airplay2,

But the device that alexa is on may be able to airplay,

It’s the hardware that has the airplay built in not the software feature of the 
device.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:56 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I don't think so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think so.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Exactly. My retail business has been doing extremely well during the Pandemic 
because of the fact that we sell outdoor and hunting gear and I sometimes am 
even looking for stuff I can upgrade so I can expense it, but there are many 
other things and there is no point in buying something I absolutely don't need.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Glad you concur with my Analysis.
I've recently started a new role and can  easily afford it but it's just not 
necessary.
I'm happy to stay put for at least until 2023 and maybe even beyond.
Apple’s software support is outstanding.


On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:53 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed



On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard


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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Simon A Fogarty]

I do like the sound of the new iPad mini,

And usb-c will be a major bonus

And the full screen without the home button will be interesting

But can someone tell me,

What colour is star light?

I understand pink purple and space grey,
But star light to me is dark dark blue with bright sparkly things through out
Like a night sky.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2021 9:05 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Hi,

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

Matthew



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> escribió:

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.
I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sadam 
Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed.
I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year.
Sincerely,
Sadam Mohamed Ahmed

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Richard Turner]

As for the battery life, I think they compared the 13 pro to the 12 pro as an 
hour more
And the 13 pro max to the 12 pro max as and hour and a half more?
Something like that.

I suspect the sound will be pretty much the same as the 12 series since they 
are physically about the same, though I think the 13 pro max is a little bigger.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Star Gazer]

Does anybody know if Alexa can airplay?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

 

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

 

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you want good sound get a good Bluetooth or Airplay capable speaker, you 
need to remember that these are small devices and while I think they all sound 
surprisingly good given that small size, there are limits which can't be 
overcome.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 14, 2021 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.
The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.




Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.
A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍


Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[ilovecountrymusic483]

Hi,

 

I will not be upgrading my ipad yet I don’t think.  I do like the idea of USBC 
connectivity for charging which seems to be the standered.  I think it might be 
worth it.  I have an ipad mini 5th gen so will most likely hold on to it a bit 
longer.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

A few minutes after the event finished, “Mac Rumors” put out that iOS15, and 
other software updates for Apple devices, would be launched MOnday, the 20th of 
September. I’m really looking forward to try out, especially the “Focus” 
feature!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 14 sep 2021, a la(s) 3:08 p.m., Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 

They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from past 
behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since the new phones 
will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day they will be in people’s 
hands.

I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe to count 
on the 24th at the latest.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 will be 
released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next week, but 
thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.

I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this time, last 
year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially deal with public 
beta issues since I only have one device and I need it to function and I am 
curious to read the final verdict on Applevis regarding what the main issues 
still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, just 1 
generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every year increasingly 
is becoming a thing of the past for most people other than those who think they 
always have to have the latest.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sadam Ahmed
Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard. 

I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in Australia and 
was not impressed. 

I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading any 
hardware this year. 

Sincerely, 

Sadam Mohamed Ahmed  

 

On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new hi

RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[davycuppens]

I am curious about maybe better sound between the pro and pro max or better 
battery between the pro and pro max.

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:36
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We checked the details and LIDAR is only in the pro models again, so those 
rumors were wrong.

 

But, the new iPad Mini with the same A15 chip as the new phones was a bit of a 
surprise announcement to me.  I hadn’t read any rumors of the new iPads being 
part of today’s event.

 

I’m going to take the plunge into the 13 pro and my wife is going to settle for 
taking my SE 2020 to replace her first gen SE.

The SE 2020 would be worth at most $170 in trade, so rather than buying two new 
iPhones, I’ll get the fancier one and she can still use it for picture taking 
when she wants, or stick with the very fine camera in the SE 2020.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

[davycuppens]

I do agree with you Sieghard, the only interesting thing I heard was the 
battery of the iphone13 wich is 2 hours more than the 12.

 

But for us here mostly visually impaired or totally blind, please be aware 
maybe not yet buying a new phone the next week because then you are obliged to 
use ios15. And not tob e dramatic or spread negativity at all, I will shut my 
mouth until next week but as you can read between the lines …

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 14 september 2021 21:19
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

 

We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I have an 
iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 Pro and also an 
Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's latest basic iPad.

 

I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad Mini sounds 
nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I would consider and 
neither is the iPhone 13.

A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new camera 
systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also on the Pro Motion 
display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most blind people this is of 
little relevance.

 

I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in all 
iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed it, but I 
don't think so.

 

Conclusion: no new Apple toys for us this year, but I look forward to next 
year's announcement of the Apple Watch 8 and iPhone 14, maybe we'll see some 
more compelling new features.

 

Of course there is still more news expected about Airpods which were not 
mentioned with a single word so who knows, maybe I'll buy my wife a new headset 
for Christmas, I am still holding out for whenever Sonos will release their 
headset. Until then we'll save our hard-earned Dollars since I am also looking 
at upgrading our 25-year old mid efficiency gas furnace with a new high 
efficiency model and heat pump and that's a big one in terms of cost, if I want 
to finance this from not upgrading our iPhones we'll have to keep our current 
ones for another 10 years 藍

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

['Nicki Keck' via VIPhone]

I saw a tweet from Cnet stating IOS 15 will be released September 20.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event

I've seen a couple of references to September 20 for iOS, iPadOS and WatchOS 
releases. I too will be hanging onto my older Apple gear, which is an iPhone 11 
and Apple Watch Series 6. My upgrade date for the iPhone is February of next 
year, which is nearly halfway through the September release cycle, so I may as 
well wait until next Fall to update. I used to be one of those update every 
year crew, and then it turned into update to last year's model each year. 
Hopefully next year's Apple Watch will include the long rumored blood glucose 
sensor.
My wife has an iPhone XR, and has been chomping at the bit to get her hands on 
a purple iPhone 12. She doesn't care about the new bells and whistles. She just 
wants a purple phone. She also has my old Series 4 watch. So aside from her 
purple phone, there's no new Apple hardware for us. I am eagerly awaiting iOS 
15 and trying out some of the features and enhancements. That's one new thing 
that I will be getting!

Kindly,
Wayne Merritt

On 9/14/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> They did not mention a release date for iOS 15.  One would assume from 
> past behavior, it will be available at least by September 24th  since 
> the new phones will ship with iOS 15 and the 24th is the first day 
> they will be in people’s hands.
> I too would expect it a few days before that, but I think it is safe 
> to count on the 24th at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> We did tune in a bit after the event started, did they say when iOS 15 
> will be released to the public? I assume it will be some time mid next 
> week, but thought I check to see if somebody knows the exact date.
> I will probably wait for a few days past the official release this 
> time, last year as well as this year I just had no time to potentially 
> deal with public beta issues since I only have one device and I need 
> it to function and I am curious to read the final verdict on Applevis 
> regarding what the main issues still are in iOS 15 before I upgrade.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> Good choice, especially with a 12 Pro Max there is even less reason, 
> just 1 generation behind with both phone and watch, upgrading every 
> year increasingly is becoming a thing of the past for most people 
> other than those who think they always have to have the latest.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Sadam Ahmed
> Sent: September 14, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Initial thoughts after today's Apple Event
>
> That's a wonderful executive summary Sieghard.
> I also watch the event waking up at the ungodly hour of 3 am in 
> Australia and was not impressed.
> I'm on the 12 Pro Max and Apple Watch Series 6. Will not be upgrading 
> any hardware this year.
> Sincerely,
> Sadam Mohamed Ahmed
>
> On 15 Sep 2021, at 5:19 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
> We just finished watching the Apple Event. I should mention that I 
> have an iPhone 11 and an Apple Watch 6 and my wife has an iPhone 11 
> Pro and also an Apple Watch 6 and we also have whatever was last year's 
> latest basic iPad.
>
> I found today's announcements somewhat underwhelming, the new iPad 
> Mini sounds nice, but the Apple Watch 7 certainly isn't an upgrade I 
> would consider and neither is the iPhone 13.
> A huge amount of time was spend on the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro phones new 
> camera systems and in the case of the iPhone 13 Pro and Pro Max also 
> on the Pro Motion display with its up to 120 Hz refresh rate, for most 
> blind people this is of little relevance.
>
> I was also surprised that no mention was made whether Lidar now is in 
> all iPhone 13 models or still only in the Pro models, maybe I missed 
> it, but I don'