Re: OT Virus?
John, There was no other message with the delivery report, just what I posted, which is a little annoying. And no attachment or information on the attachment, by the looks of it whatever automated system rejects the messages does so just because its an .exe file, not necessarily because there is a virus. I have to say I'm 99% sure its from this list, as I'm not on any other lists, and only ever sign up to stuff with a fake hotmail account. And I don't think someone within the company who sent the delivery report has my address as they are a US based company, we're UK, and we don't deal with anyone US based. Also I've been contacted by a few people since posting the original topic that have agreed they think its the list, as they have received similar emails before. Incidentally, since posting that message to the list the emails have stopped, I was receiving about 2 a day, so hopefully someone took notice and cleaned their system. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == |-+--- | | John Kaufmann | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | | | | Sent by:| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | ealvnc.com | | | | | | | | | 17/11/2004 18:01| | | | |-+--- ---| | | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |cc: | |Subject: Re: Virus? | ---| At 14:39 + 041117, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think someone on this list might have a virus. I keep getting non-delivery reports (see below) ... == - Forwarded by Ben Blackmore/GB/TISUB on 17/11/2004 14:29 - |-+--- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | edgroup.com | | | | | | 17/11/2004 14:19| | | | |-+--- --| | | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| |cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: TFS Non-Delivery Report: Re: Thank you! | --| ## Created by TFS ## When [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1/1/2) Explanation: This message contains an executable attachment and will not be delivered. RULE: Executables # True, the culprit is not you, but it's not likely to be someone in FederatedGroup, either. True, someone is spoofing your address, but it's not clear (and probably not likely) that your address was harvested from this list. In the non-delivery report, didn't they send you the original, with full headers and body? Was the executable inline 7-bit encoded (probably base64) or a binary attachment? What was the virus/worm? -- John ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Virus?
I think someone on this list might have a virus. I keep getting non-delivery reports (see below) when I'm not sending email. I'm fairly sure its not me. a) i don't use a Microsoft email client, b) i don't have the recipients address in my address book and c) I've done 2 full virus scans. The only reason I can think I'm getting these emails, is because someone on this list has my email address and the recipients, in their address book, and the virus is spoofing my address over theirs when it sends the virus. Does anyone deal with FederatedGroup.com? If so it might be worth running a virus scan. Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == - Forwarded by Ben Blackmore/GB/TISUB on 17/11/2004 14:29 - |-+--- | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | edgroup.com | | | | | | 17/11/2004 14:19| | | | |-+--- ---| | | |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Subject: TFS Non-Delivery Report: Re: Thank you! | ---| ## Created by TFS ## When [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1/1/2) Explanation: This message contains an executable attachment and will not be delivered. RULE: Executables # ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Using Group Policies Custom ADM files?
Hi, I'm looking at writing my own custom administrative template for VNC, that I can deploy via group policies. But I'm having trouble finding where the registry setting should go. Currently our VNC settings are stored in HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3. However reading the documentation on Microsoft's web site says Approved Registry Key Locations for Group Policy Settings: Computer Policy Settings HKLM\Software\Policies (The preferred location) HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies User Policy Setting: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies HKCU\Software\Policies (The preferred location) Will VNC pick up settings from these registry values? I've tried setting the original VNC location of HKLM\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3 but the GP admin screen won't open the adm file correctly when that's set. Any help would be gratefully received Best regards Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC 4
Have installed VNC 4 on our Win 2000 server, but when I try to connect I get server closed connection unexpectedly if you hover the mouse over the VNC taskbar icon it says Not accepting connections I have added our IP address range to the connections allowed! Any ideas why its not working? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4
Wez, I think I've just sorted it! I checked the VNC4 known bugs (http://www.realvnc.com/v4/known-bugs.html), and found... The IP addresses displayed by the tray icon are not refreshed when the host IP addresses change. After I stopped and restarted the service I was able to connect. Its strange though, cause I'm connected via TS and when I run VNC I get the TS screen, if I close TS I can't connect. I think I'll have to pay a visit to the server, and check VNC is running on the normal desktop Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == James Weatherall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: VNC 4 16/06/2004 09:38 Ben, Have you checked that there is nothing else listening on the VNC server port? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC 4
Wez, I registered then started the service through my TS session, then closed TS and ran VNC, but when I try to connect I get server closed connection unexpectedly. I can understand why this would happen, if as you said, it was running in application mode, however in service mode it should connect, unless TS is stopping the service as well? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == James Weatherall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC 4 16/06/2004 09:47 Ben, As mentioned in the FAQ, all bets are off if certain Terminal Services based features, particularly Remote Desktop or Fast User Switching are used. In your case, I assume that you are running an application mode VNC Server in your Terminal Services session - when you Disconnect the session, Windows actually shuts down the graphics for it, making it impossible for VNC Server to remote it. Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2004 09:44 To: James Weatherall Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VNC 4 Wez, I think I've just sorted it! I checked the VNC4 known bugs (http://www.realvnc.com/v4/known-bugs.html), and found... The IP addresses displayed by the tray icon are not refreshed when the host IP addresses change. After I stopped and restarted the service I was able to connect. Its strange though, cause I'm connected via TS and when I run VNC I get the TS screen, if I close TS I can't connect. I think I'll have to pay a visit to the server, and check VNC is running on the normal desktop Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == James Weatherall To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: VNC 4 16/06/2004 09:38 Ben, Have you checked that there is nothing else listening on the VNC server port? Wez @ RealVNC Ltd. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Connecting 2 Networks that have the same IP Class
Only way is to have the 2 networks on a simluar class of IP, i.e. 10.1.x.x 10.2.x.x set the subnet to 255.255.248.0 put a VPN pipe between the two, and and get 2 routers either end of the broadband connection to route traffic from one network to the other. We use this between our office in London, and in Swindon, basically they look like they are all in one big network, they can access the main server, and we can VNC to them! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Jerome R. WestrickTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: com Subject: Re: Connecting 2 Networks that have the same IP Class Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 10/05/2004 12:37 On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 12:12, Tony Ford wrote: I have a requirement to connect to multiple sites without having to (potentially) keep changing my network's IP addresses. If I can connect via VPN how do I get my remote connection software (or do I need specialist software?) to use the VPN first, instead of my internal network (do I need to do something with DNS?)? In other words... I want to connect 2 networks over broadband using a VPN. The IP addresses are the same at each end of the VPN. I can create the VPN but have yet to find a way of getting onto the remote network using a IP address that exists on the host network IP doesn't handle 2 hosts with same ip address. Don't think there is any way around that. Jerry ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: winvnc.exe dr watson
I'm not to hot on Dr watson, do you have an event log entry? I'm better at working with event logs! Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Steve Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sex.sch.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: winvnc.exe dr watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] nc.com 18/03/2004 08:59 Some further information for anyone willing/able to help... The server has the latest service pack and critical updates installed. It also seems that the problem is only happening when the server has been logged out, rather than just left locked (the service is still running and I DO get the VNC logon/password window, but it crashes when I try to log on). The Dr Watson error log is below: Application exception occurred: App: (pid=279) When: 3/17/2004 @ 10:6:15.984 Exception number: c005 (access violation) * System Information * Computer Name: TIDEWAY3 User Name: SYSTEM Number of Processors: 2 Processor Type: x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 10 Windows Version: 4.0 Current Build: 1381 Service Pack: 6 Current Type: Multiprocessor Free Registered Organization: Tideway School Network Registered Owner: Tideway Community School * Task List * 0 Idle.exe 2 System.exe 25 SMSS.exe 33 CSRSS.exe 39 WINLOGON.exe 45 SERVICES.exe 48 LSASS.exe 74 SPOOLSS.exe 95 amgrsrvc.exe 100 ati2plxx.exe 105 LLSSRV.exe 112 Mcshield.exe 123 VsTskMgr.exe 131 LOCATOR.exe 160 rpcss.exe 164 Smserve.exe 171 Smtimeck.exe 174 SNMP.exe 177 WINS.exe 181 TCPSVCS.exe 188 dns.exe 191 NMSSvc.exe 212 PSTORES.exe 219 mstask.exe 279 winvnc.exe 49 DRWTSN32.exe 0 _Total.exe (0040 - 0040) (77f6 - 77fbf000) dll\ntdll.dbg (77f0 - 77f5f000) dll\kernel32.dbg (77e7 - 77ec2000) dll\user32.dbg (77ed - 77efc000) dll\gdi32.dbg (77dc - 77dff000) dll\advapi32.dbg (77e1 - 77e67000) dll\rpcrt4.dbg (776d - 776d8000) dll\wsock32.dbg (776b - 776c4000) dll\ws2_32.dbg (7800 - 78044000) (776a - 776a7000) dll\ws2help.dbg (77c4 - 77d7b000) dll\shell32.dbg (7171 - 71794000) dll\comctl32.dbg (77b2 - 77bd1000) dll\ole32.dbg (1000 - 1000) (0023 - 0023) (77bf - 77bf7000) dll\rpcltc1.dbg (7766 - 7766f000) dll\msafd.dbg (7769 - 77699000) dll\wshtcpip.dbg (74ff - 74ffe000) dll\rnr20.dbg (7130 - 71306000) dll\msidle.dbg State Dump for Thread Id 0x120 eax=77bf4030 ebx=0012feb4 ecx=77bf edx= esi=0050 edi= eip=77f67fc7 esp=0012fdd4 ebp=0012fe3c iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na po nc cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= efl=0246 function: ZwReadFile 77f67fbc b88600 mov eax,0x86
Re: (no subject)
What service pack are you running on the NT 4 machine? Make sure its up to SP6a, which I think was the last released by Microsoft! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Steve Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sex.sch.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: (no subject) [EMAIL PROTECTED] nc.com 15/03/2004 13:05 Hi I'm having a bit of trouble with one of our NT servers. VNC installs and initially works ok, but after an unknown amout of time has passed (eg 10 mins), when you try to connect from a workstation you get prompted for the password, but then nothing. If you take the long walk to the server, there is a winvnc.exe dr watson error and the vnc service has stopped. I have used VNC fairly extensively in the past and it is working fine on various other machines on our network. I know that you'll probably need more info to diagnose this (eg dr watson logs etc), but I don't have it available at the moment. We are using the current version of VNC, although I have tried using an older one and also TightVNC - all give the same result of installing normally, working ok several times and then finally stopping when not being used. If I 'ok' the dr watson error, then re-start the vnc service, it all works ok again for a short while and then does the same again. Any help much appreciated, Steve. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
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Test =) ewehtcbrrdfsgl -- Test, yep. [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type application/x-msdownload which had a name of wbmwskebyoi.exe] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Working from home
What sort of network do you run at work? Does it have a firewall? Gateway? What O/S are you running? Are you sure VNC server is running on the PC you want to connect to? == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Ricky Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ool.ac.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: Working from home [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 18/11/2003 10:55 I've installed WinVNC version 3.3.7 both at home and at work. No settings have been altered. I can't connect from home because I get the following message - Your connection has been rejected. My workplace uses WinVNC version 3.3.9 on its network (Although I have installed 3.3.7) and the message usually assumes that the user at the other end has not accepted your connection. As far as I see it, I can't connect to my work PC unless someone at the other end accepts my request. What should I do to overcome this problem ? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Windows XP - run dialup connection as a service?
Create a shortcut to the dial-up connection, and put it in the windows start menu. If its windows 2000 you can set it to auto connect, and auto re-dial on dropped connection. This way when windows starts up, it will run the shortcut and auto connect with out a user having to press anything. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Phil Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] duct.comcc: Sent by: Subject: Windows XP - run dialup connection as a service? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 15/11/2003 17:53 Mainly so that I can help to administrate a machine, is it possible to run a dialup (as in it's really ADSL) connection as a service in Windows XP? I can, of course, run my VNC server of choice on it... but this does not make it connect. (There are no issues surrounding accessing the machine that I can't solve myself, save the connection issue.) -- Phil Reynolds (new PGP key as of 01/05/2003) o mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |L_ \ / Web: http://www.tinsleyviaduct.com/phil/ (_)- \/ Waltham 67, Emley Moor 69, Droitwich 79, Windows 95 ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Windows XP - run dialup connection as a service?
Oh, your not logging in, sorry thought it was! Can't you put an auto logon to windows? Or do you not want it to logon automatically? == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Phil Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] duct.comcc: Subject: Re: Windows XP - run dialup connection as a service? 17/11/2003 11:18 On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:09:14AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really? What happens? How far does it get? I've used that method before and its worked fine. Although I may have been using Win2K at the time. I'll try tonight on my home Xp PC. Does it open the dial up connection? No. It does nothing until someone logs in. -- Phil Reynolds (new PGP key as of 01/05/2003) o mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |L_ \ / Web: http://www.tinsleyviaduct.com/phil/ (_)- \/ Waltham 67, Emley Moor 69, Droitwich 79, Windows 95 ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC4 Usernames
Hi, Is the username/password function available in v4? I've installed it for testing, and see it give the option of entering a username password, however the username box is greyed out. We'd like to setup a PC with 1 username/password for our admin team, and 1 for our head office team! Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
WinVNC4
Hi, Do the allowproperties and Allowshutdown keys work in v4 like in v3? I've added RealVNC WinVNC4 administrator - AllowProperties - 1 - AllowShutdown - 1 Then restarted the service, however even though I'm logged on as administrator, it won't allow me to close the server in the task bar! Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Shift-Crtl-F12 ??
I'd like to know if this is possible as well, I'd find it useful to send a number of different key sequences, such as alt+tab and ctrl+esc Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Mark Bruen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] nt.com cc: Sent by: Subject: Shift-Crtl-F12 ?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 09/09/2003 15:17 Does anyone know how to send a Shift-Ctrl-F12 from vncviewer? Is there an API to send any key sequence? Thanks. -Mark ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Sending Key Commands
Hi, Is there anyway to send key commands when using VNC. I know you can already do 'Send Ctrl+Alt+Delete' from the menu, but I'd like to send 'Ctrl+Esc' or just the 'Windows key', just so I can get the start menu up. Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
AuthHosts
Hi, I've been messing with the AuthHosts settings and running some tests. I've set -:+192.168. in the registry, but find when I try to connect from my PC, (IP 192.168.60.68) I get Your connection was rejected. However if I set -:+192.168 in the regisry, without the final dot (.) it connects ok. Is this a bug? Why should the last dot stop it from connecting? Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: AuthHosts syntax
But if you had +10.0.60.101 wouldn't it only accept a connection from that IP anyway, all others would be rejected? So does it need to have -10.0.60.100 in there? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Kaciuba, Michael - AUSTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' PER [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: au Subject: RE: AuthHosts syntax 09/07/2003 03:06 The - sign means deny and the + sign means accept. For example an authhosts string which shows -10.0.60.100:+10.0.60.101:?10.0.60.102 means that the ip address 10.0.60.100 can not use vnc where as 10.0.60.101 can. 10.0.60.102 has the ability to use vnc but will require authorisation on the users end. by the way, in a string you use a : to seperate ip addresses. Another example, if your script shows - then no ip address will be able to use vnc. This is good to stop all unwanted connections. To specify a connection you want to be available you simply add the ip address. eg -:+10.0.60.100 in this string only 10.0.60.100 can use vnc. -Original Message- From: William Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2003 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AuthHosts syntax [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a question along the same lines. The syntax used for AuthHosts is +[ip-address-template] ?[ip-address-template] -[ip-address-template] I know the ? means it asks the user if they want to accept the incoming connection, but what's the difference between the + and - (plus minus) it doesn't explain what they do under http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html AuthHosts is controlled by the QuerySetting value (BTW the new page is at http://www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html , even though this is covered on the old page). By default, +:Accept, ?:Query, -:Reject. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: AuthHosts syntax
I have a question along the same lines. The syntax used for AuthHosts is +[ip-address-template] ?[ip-address-template] -[ip-address-template] I know the ? means it asks the user if they want to accept the incoming connection, but what's the difference between the + and - (plus minus) it doesn't explain what they do under http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/winvnc.html Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Kaciuba, Michael - AUSTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] PER cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AuthHosts syntax au Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 08/07/2003 09:42 Im working in a network environment where we are using winvnc on our pc's and servers. Currently we are using the HKLM\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\AuthHosts key to define who can use vnc on the network. Until now we have had no issues. Basically our string looks something like this -:+10.0.60.141:?10.0.31.169:?10.0.20.240:?10.0.20.184: By default all computers can not use vnc, there is one ip (10.0.60.141) which can force accept, and we have listed a whole bunch of computers that can query our network computers for control. Heres the problem. Our string is reaching its max char length of 255. Were at 247 at the moment. To combat this weve moved all our vnc users to ip's between 10.0.60.110 and 10.0.60.119. What were want to do is take out all the individual ip's and just have a range between 10.0.60.110 and 10.0.60.119 in the key. We know that entering a value of ?10.0.60 will mean that all ip's upder 10.0.60.x will be able to query but what i need to know is, will entering a value of 10.0.60.11 work for only that ip address or will it work for 10.0.60.11x (eg. 10.0.60.111, 10.0.60.112, 10.0.60.113, ...) And if not, is there a way to enter a range of ip addresses instead of listing each individual ip. Kinda hard to explain, any help appreciated. Thanks Guys. Michael Kaciuba Network Administrator Jardine Lloyd Thompson Phone: (08) 9426 0939 Mobile: 0421 612 603 E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: (no subject)
it'll work over any connection with TCP/IP. I.e. the host dials out to the internet, and so does the server, as long as you know the servers IP address you can connect. I've also been able to setup an incoming connection on the server PC, so I can dialin, and take control with VNC via IP address. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == b.maxwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: famu.educc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: (no subject) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 03/07/2003 12:05 Anyone Does VNC only work with networked computers. Or can it function as a clent/ server via modem connections. I have been unable to locate documentation that explains this. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC over different subnet mask
Hi, Sorry, Fridays are a half day, so I didn't get any of the emails till this morning! I did manage to get VNC working after I changed the subnet to 255.255.248.0, it just took a while to 'refresh'. I think my network card is having problems, it drops my network every now and then, either need a new card or format and re-install windows. I'm just reading through all the emails, learning a few things about TCP/IP that I didn't know before, especially with Corne's post, thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed explanation. Cheers for everyone's input Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll.org cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: VNC over different subnet mask [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 20/06/2003 14:27 Beerse, Corni said: -Original Message- From: William Hooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] Agreed. There is still the question of why it doesn't work after changing the subnet mask to be the same. It is really a TCP/IP problem, not a VNC one. Waiting on the results of the ping as suggested by Dave Warren. Waiting can do a lot here, the mac-adress-tables in all machines (mostly routers) must be updated that the mac address has moved to a new ip-network. This most times goes automatic, specially if the changed machine has send some stuff over the network, like some pings to some machines in old and new network. If the machines are on the same subnet the router is not involved. The only way the MAC would be an issue is if the machine were talking to each other before the move (which it seems they weren't). And the reboot to change the subnet mask (assuming MS Windows) cleared out the local arp cache anyway. We are all just pissing in the wind until Mr. Blackmore comes back with more info. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC over different subnet mask
Hi, We've just run out of IP addresses on our network, so we're moving to a different scope, current IPs are running 192.168.60.1 - 255 the new scope is 192.168.61.1 - 255. and subnet mask 255.255.248.0 When I try to connect with VNC from my PC (old scope) to a new PC (new scope) it fails. I've changed my subnet mask to 255.255.248.0, but it stills fails. Is there anyway around it? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Licensing issues with Microsoft.
No none, why would there be? VNC is nothing to do with Microsoft, its free under the GPL have a look at: - http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Nazim Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ave.com cc: Sent by: Subject: Licensing issues with Microsoft. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 17/06/2003 10:01 Please respond to Nazim Khan Hi, Is there any problem in using VNC on Microsoft OSs i.e Win95/Win2K/NT/XP. Any link or info about the same will be useful for me in making the decision about using the VNC. regards, Nazim ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Licensing issues with Microsoft.
But does this not just mean that you can't connect to a Machine running Win XP and Office, then open word and use it, as you'd be running it from an unlicensed PC. If you were to have office licensed on your PC, then connect to a remote PC and use word it would be fine? Has anyone got the XP license at hand? Would be interested in reading it! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Simon Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nazim Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Licensing issues with Microsoft. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 17/06/2003 10:43 Nazim Khan wrote: Is there any problem in using VNC on Microsoft OSs i.e Win95/Win2K/NT/XP. Any link or info about the same will be useful for me in making the decision about using the VNC. Yes ! I'm not sure about the other versions, but the licence for XP is quite explicit that use of 'remote control' packages other than NetMeeting is NOT allowed. This isn't a case of not saying that others are allowed, it explicitely states that they may not be used. This isn't the end though. Many people (myself included) are confident that this clause would be declared illegal under European and (in my case) UK laws if Microsoft attempted to enforce it - but I don't think anyone wants to be the subject of a test case ! In fact there are still big question marks over the whole validity of 'shrink wrap licences'. Simon -- Simon Hobson, Technology Specialist Colony Gift Corporation Limited Lindal in Furness, Ulverston, Cumbria, LA12 0LD Tel 01229 461100, Fax 01229 461101 Registered in England No. 1499611 Regd. Office : 100 New Bridge Street, London, EC4V 6JA. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Licensing issues with Microsoft.
But even they aren't 100% sure, We believe that the above excerpt does not refer to pcAnywhere... You'd have thought they would have contacted M$ directly for confirmation on the matter! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Barry Zubel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Licensing issues with Microsoft. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 17/06/2003 12:29 An interesting take from Symantec regarding pcAnywhere on this matter: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/pca.nsf/395b2a511976725b88256b10002 f2c32/882628b00410062988256b8a0065b353?OpenDocumentsone=pca_105_tasks.h tmlstg=3prod=pcAnywherever=10.5%20for%20Windows%2095/98/Me/NT/2000/XP base=http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/pca/next=pca_105_contact_tscs_ot her.htmlsrc=sgpcode=pcasvy= (that should all be on one line above.) Barry Zubel Able Packaging Designs Ltd E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software. Thank you for your cooperation. Please note that any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally and are not necessarily those of the Company or any of its subsidiary companies, none of whom accept responsibility for the contents of the message. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Hobson Sent: 17 June 2003 10:44 To: Nazim Khan; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licensing issues with Microsoft. Nazim Khan wrote: Is there any problem in using VNC on Microsoft OSs i.e Win95/Win2K/NT/XP. Any link or info about the same will be useful for me in making the decision about using the VNC. Yes ! I'm not sure about the other versions, but the licence for XP is quite explicit that use of 'remote control' packages other than NetMeeting is NOT allowed. This isn't a case of not saying that others are allowed, it explicitely states that they may not be used. This isn't the end though. Many people (myself included) are confident that this clause would be declared illegal under European and (in my case) UK laws if Microsoft attempted to enforce it - but I don't think anyone wants to be the subject of a test case ! In fact there are still big question marks over the whole validity of 'shrink wrap licences'. Simon -- Simon Hobson, Technology Specialist Colony Gift Corporation Limited Lindal in Furness, Ulverston
VNC for Novell?
Hi, Was just explaining VNC, and all the different platforms it can be used on, to someone and they asked if it could be used on Netware, to which I had to answer 'dunno'. Looking around realvnc.com there doesn't seem to be a version for netware. Is this correct? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Duplicate posts
Is it not because someone is replying to you, and to the list, which also sends to you? == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Barry Zubel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] uk cc: Sent by: Subject: Duplicate posts [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 12/06/2003 16:29 Anyone else getting these recently? Barry Zubel IT Manager Able Packaging Designs Ltd *** This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software. Thank you for your cooperation. Please note that any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally and are not necessarily those of the Company or any of its subsidiary companies, none of whom accept responsibility for the contents of the message. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Zubel Sent: 12 June 2003 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: use_KeyPress as global setting I've noticed that using a DOS prompt in *ANY* remote software (VNC, pcAnywhere, RDS, etc) is extremely slow, which I have attributed to the 'host' machine spending more clock cycles on it. If you open Task Mangler and view the processor usage before and while you open a dos prompt, you will probably see the usage increase quite a lot. Whether this is connected to the slow typing, I have no idea. Barry Zubel IT Manager Able Packaging Designs Ltd *** This email may contain confidential information and/or copyright material. This email is intended for the use of the addressee only. Any unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you receive this email by mistake, please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your email software. Thank you for your cooperation. Please note that any opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author personally and are not necessarily those of the Company or any of its subsidiary companies, none of whom accept responsibility for the contents of the message. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Sent: 12 June 2003 15:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject
Sending Remote Keyboard Commands
Hi Would it be possible to add the function to send the key commands 'Ctrl' + 'Esc' so you can open the start menu on a remote PC. The trouble I'm currently having is if your viewing a desktop that is the same size as your own, and the task bar is set to hidden (so it pops up when you mouse over), you can't open the remote task bar, before your own task bar pops up, and if you press the windows key on the keyboard, again, your own start menu opens. The only way I can currently do it, is to run the connection at a smaller size, say 1:2, so the remote desktop is smaller, and I can get to the hidden task bar. Does this make sense? Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: I have a question
Did anyone else get an email like this? Has a .scr attachment! Think it might be a virus! Thought I'd warn people before they open it! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Francisco Javier Ventura To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: m Subject: I have a question 05/06/2003 10:02 I have a question, about the VNC that I have installed in my Mac I have download the VNCBETA 3PCC for my MAC, and I have installed the VNC in one desktop. When I run the VNCBETA 3PCC server in my Mac, how can I do it to write an specific IP address where I wish to make the connection? In the windows desktop in both the server and the viewer I can add a client, and when I am doing this appear a screen asking me to put the IP address for the pc to I want to connect, I attached file 02024043.pdf.scr removed ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review
I agree, expert users will probably be able to do much of what Expert VNC offers themselves. I reviewed it only to help people with their questions, and to get a better understanding of the product myself. The files that I executed were viewerdemo.exe 126kb and serverdemo.exe 265kb, it appears these are compressed executables, that launch the program, probably putting the files in a temporary directory, not found where yet, but it creates a directory under 'c:\vnc' however it only extracts a readme file to this directory. The only other method I tried to connect to her was me trying to connect to her using my standard VNC. Is it possible to do it another way? If so I'll try that, I haven't played around with VNCs other options to much as we use just the standard VNC over a network here, which works fine anyway, only time I've needed additional functionality was connecting to my friend at uni, and this was the option at hand at the time! I'll try the Add New Client option! I'm not really a VNC expert, I thought it would be a good idea for a basic user like me to review it, then for Joel to get an expert user to review it as well. I just thought it would be useful for someone to demo the program and tell others, as there seemed to be such an uproar about it. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ll.org cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 02/06/2003 14:11 Thank you for providing a review. Would it be possible to get more technical info from you about this product? [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Expert VNC - An Independent Review After Joel Bomgaars posted his topic advertising Expert VNC to the list, there was quite a bit of controversy over it, weather it legal, secure, the cost, etc. I too posted a reply, asking a few questions regarding these issues, at which point Joel offered to give me a demo copy, to test, and give an independent review. So I did! How did I demo the program? Well I have a friend who at Uni in Portsmouth (UK), her net connection is behind a firewall, which allows outgoing traffic, but blocks incoming. It would be interesting to hear what other methods you have used to try to connect to her in the past. I emailed her the server demo (which is only 265k), and ran my viewer demo (126k). Are these the size of an install program or the actually executables? (More later.) When she opened the server demo, I gave her my IP address, which she entered into the connection box. This then goes out through her firewall, and connects to my viewer. This sounds like the Add New Client functionality already in RealVNC. This means there is pretty good security, you can't connect to a users PC, with out them running the server, and then entering your IP
Re: Win32 - Unattended install
Hi, Yes it is possible, take a look at fastpush at www.darkage.co.uk. Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Stiphane Vidouse \(DD\) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by: Subject: Win32 - Unattended install [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 02/06/2003 15:31 Hi everybody, Is it possible to install VNC Server under Win 2000 or WXP using an unattended install script ? How can I do this ? Stiphane Vidouse Directeur du Diveloppement DD sprl [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dnd.be DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Design and Development sprl, please see our website at http://www.dnd.be [demime 0.99d.1 removed an attachment of type application/x-pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC Question
Scroll down the page! This is the bit your interested in! QueryTimeout The QueryTimeout setting indicates the number of seconds for which the Accept Connection dialog (see AuthHosts and QuerySetting options) will be displayed before rejecting the incoming connection automatically. Local global per-user setting. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == [EMAIL PROTECTED] hospcs.org To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC Question ealvnc.com 02/06/2003 16:19 Thanks for the response. I looked in the archives and couldn't find an answer which fit the issue. I looked at the URL you provided in your answer and conclude that the answer to my question is no - the URL provided info about performing inbound VNC connection restrictions based upon source IP address. I want to know if VNC will provide a pop-up question like SMS that the end-user can answer in the affirmative or negative to allow or disallow an admin to take remote control of their PC. . William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/02/2003 08:48 AM To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject Re: VNC Question [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does VNC have the ability to prompt the user to answer a question which allows the user to deny someone the ability to take remote control? We want to replace SMS with VNC. SMS has a pop-up message that appears on end-user's PCs which states Do you want to allow the admin to take remote-control of your PC? Thus the end-user can control when someone takes remote control of their PC. Look at QuerySetting, QueryTimeout, and AuthHosts. http://www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html#11 This has also been asked and answered in the archives. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review
snip I think you misread his message. He was just sending information about the program. He does not work for the company that produces the program and he has no conflict of interest. Perhaps you should thank him for his efforts on our behalf. /snip Thank you Mike! My attempt at a review was to help people make their own minds up, if I worked for the company I wouldn't have said at the end of the review that I felt $500 per license was to much! However there are still questions left open that I can not answer, like that of licensing snip This is contrary to the statements made by Joel Bomgaars when asked about the license of ExpertVNC: The scripts and executables of ExpertVNC that are completely separate files are licensed separately under a generic restrictive license. http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2003-May/039005.html From your discription they are not seperate files, but part of the same executable. As the GPL FAQ states: If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation /snip They look like they come bundled in a self extracting executable, just as if they were winzipped then created as a self extracting zip. When you run it, it extracts them, and runs. If I were to say zip all the VNC files up, with a text file with some notes on it or something, then create a self extracting zip, and email it to a friend! Would that break the licensing? How does this work with the GPL? snip Getting into a war about selling code and the GPL shouldn't be anyones focus. Instead we should be concerned that someone is violating the licenses that VNC has been released under. If ExpertVNC chooses to sell a product based on VNC that doesn't violate the GPL license then more power to them. Maybe they will need some changes to VNC in the future that they will release back to the community and everyone wins. Unfortunately it sounds like they are violating the GPL (I'm willing to be proved wrong...) and should release their current code and decide if they want to continue developing it under a GPL license or rewrite it so it doesn't violate the GPL. /snip Indeed, its something that needs to be sorted out between the People at RealVNC and the people at ExpertVNC. As I said in my review I'm no expert on VNC and defiantly not on GPL licensing. This is why I suggested to Joel he get an expert or someone who knows more to review as well. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Expert VNC - An Independent Review
Expert VNC - An Independent Review After Joel Bomgaars posted his topic advertising Expert VNC to the list, there was quite a bit of controversy over it, weather it legal, secure, the cost, etc. I too posted a reply, asking a few questions regarding these issues, at which point Joel offered to give me a demo copy, to test, and give an independent review. So I did! How did I demo the program? Well I have a friend who at Uni in Portsmouth (UK), her net connection is behind a firewall, which allows outgoing traffic, but blocks incoming. She's always having PC problems, and as she isn't very computer literate herself it usually means a trip down to Portsmouth to fix. I've tried to use VNC, but her firewall blocks the connection. So, the day before hearing about Expert VNC, I got a call from her again, apparently she's managed to uninstall her soundcard, and couldn't get it working again. So I was looking at having to go down and see her, and install the soundcard again. However up on hearing about Expert VNC, and being given the opportunity to demo it, I thought I'd give it a try. I emailed her the server demo (which is only 265k), and ran my viewer demo (126k). When she opened the server demo, I gave her my IP address, which she entered into the connection box. This then goes out through her firewall, and connects to my viewer. This means there is pretty good security, you can't connect to a users PC, with out them running the server, and then entering your IP address. Once she's done that, I can control her PC, which is what I did, after 5 minutes, I'd loaded the soundcard drivers back on and had it all working again. So I'll try and clear up some of the questions that were being asked. Is it insecure? Not as far as I can see, although I'm not really an expert in those fields, but the fact the application has to be launched by the end user, who then has to enter your IP address before you can connect makes it as secure as any other remote admin program. Is it legal? Again I'm no expert, but VNC is open source, and distributed under the GNU General Public License and none of the original VNC files have been modified, so as far as I can see, yes! What is the cost? At first I thought the cost was $495 per license, meaning if I wanted to support all 200 workstation on our site, it would cost $99,000. But after running this past Joel, I found that you only need 1 license for every PC that's going to SUPPORT the other workstations, they don't actually need a license, as the software is only installed while your supporting them. A better way of doing this maybe by saying the 'Server' is free, but you need to buy a license for the 'Host'. So, my verdict! Is it useful, yes, for supporting users who are behind a firewall its excellent, and as far as I can see there are no security or legal issues. However, I think the cost per license ($495) is maybe a little on the steep side, I'm sure more people would be interested, if the cost were halved or something, or the pricing scheme re-worked/re-worded, so you get the server for free, but host you pay for. Hope this clears up some of the questions! Ben Blackmore == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review
You obviously didn't read my post correctly! It wasn't meant to be insulting, and if you read the end of the post, I too said it was expensive, and I doubt we would pay for it as we use VNC already which covers our needs, the post was meant to help explain some of the questions people were asking! I suggest you go back and read again! It was an independent review! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Jessica Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/06/2003 09:27 Subject: Re: Expert VNC - An Independent Review I found this email quite insulting. I work for a struggling dot-com in America. In a world where RealVNC itself costs nothing, and where Remote Admin (for Windows only, but as we know many US companies think Windows is somehow a Godsend... which of course it's not) costs, what, $50 for every 2 computers?... well, $500 for a slight spinoff of VNC is ridiculous. My company could not afford this software if we WANTED to... and I seriously doubt that even larger companies in the US could, or this point. I certainly hope that Expert VNC does not become the new corporate standard. The days where you can take an open-source/free software package, make some changes, add support, and sell it for beaucoup de bucks are LONG since over, guys. Reality check time. On Mon, 2 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Expert VNC - An Independent Review After Joel Bomgaars posted his topic advertising Expert VNC to the list, there was quite a bit of controversy over it, weather it legal, secure, the cost, etc. I too posted a reply, asking a few questions regarding these issues, at which point Joel offered to give me a demo copy, to test, and give an independent review. So I did! How did I demo the program? Well I have a friend who at Uni in Portsmouth (UK), her net connection is behind a firewall, which allows outgoing traffic, but blocks incoming. She's always having PC problems, and as she isn't very computer literate herself it usually means a trip down to Portsmouth to fix. I've tried to use VNC, but her firewall blocks the connection. So, the day before hearing about Expert VNC, I got a call from her again, apparently she's managed to uninstall her soundcard, and couldn't get it working again. So I was looking at having to go down and see her, and install the soundcard again. However up on hearing about Expert VNC, and being given the opportunity to demo it, I thought I'd give it a try. I emailed her the server demo (which is only 265k), and ran my viewer demo (126k). When she opened the server demo, I gave her my IP address, which she entered into the connection box. This then goes out through her firewall, and connects to my viewer. This means there is pretty good security, you can't connect to a users PC, with out them running the server, and then entering your IP address. Once she's done that, I can control her PC, which is what I did, after 5 minutes, I'd loaded the soundcard drivers back on and had it all working again. So I'll try and clear up some of the questions that were being asked. Is it insecure? Not as far as I can see, although I'm not really an expert in those fields, but the fact the application has to be launched by the end user, who then has to enter your IP address before you can connect makes it as secure as any other remote admin program. Is it legal? Again I'm no expert, but VNC is open source, and distributed under the GNU General Public License and none
Re: VNC Over Dialup
Yeah that's how I thought it was meant to work. However if you set it up on Win2000, and have Lotus Notes, even when the connection isn't active, Notes won't dial out, it doesn't even initialise the modem, I thought it may have been a Notes problem, but another bit of software we use to connect and transfer data files also fails to initialise the modem when 'incoming connection' is setup. Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Jonathan Maton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] et cc: Subject: Re: VNC Over Dialup 29/05/2003 15:31 Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but setting up the incoming connection (RAS) does not keep the modem busy. You can still use the modem to dialup whatever you want. If the phone line rings, the the RAS will cause the modem to answer and then will set up the connection for the person dialing into you. Granted, while any connection is active, the phone line and modem --are-- in use, but there's no way around that! -Jonathan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 7:08 AM Subject: VNC Over Dialup How would people go about using VNC over a dialup connection? We need to connect to some laptops, some older running Win95, some newer running Win2k. None have an internet account, so we have to dialin, then connect with VNC. I think we have it working ok on Win95, however on Win2k, you setup the incoming connection, but that hogs the modem while its waiting, so you can't use anything else that needs the modem, i.e. Lotus Notes for email. Does anyone know of a way to setup an incoming connection without it hogging the modem? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC Over Dialup
How would people go about using VNC over a dialup connection? We need to connect to some laptops, some older running Win95, some newer running Win2k. None have an internet account, so we have to dialin, then connect with VNC. I think we have it working ok on Win95, however on Win2k, you setup the incoming connection, but that hogs the modem while its waiting, so you can't use anything else that needs the modem, i.e. Lotus Notes for email. Does anyone know of a way to setup an incoming connection without it hogging the modem? Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Create MSI package
I use Inno Setup/IS Tool for this, and it uses a 'net start winvnc' command to run vnc as a service! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: OT - ISTool to Install VNC
If it was just for my PC I would, but we're sending this out to 30 mobile reps, most don't know a lot about anything technical, and wouldn't know how to rename the older file, so I wanted to create an install that would do it automatically. After reading the inno setup forums over the weekend I found a work around for this, where you specify the old file as a source, then the new file name as a destination before all other files! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == David Kuo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] m cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: OT - ISTool to Install VNC [EMAIL PROTECTED] ealvnc.com 16/03/2003 01:41 Hello Ben, Why don't you just save a copy of the old program before compiling/installing the new app? I always keep multiple versions of mine (as well as all source files and ISS script files) just in case. David - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 4:18 AM Subject: OT - ISTool to Install VNC Hi, Does anyone use Inno Setup Compiler/ISTool to install VNC? I created my own setup program to install just the server to host PCs with correct registry settings and everything, and a few other VNC admin tools, such as VNCon. I'm creating another setup program with a newer version of some of the files, and I was wondering if its possible to get Inno Setup Compiler/ISTool to rename the old files before it installs the newer files, I'd like to keep the older files there in case something goes wrong, and we have to revert back to them, as its being installed on mobile laptops we might not be able to get to them again for a while. Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
OT - ISTool to Install VNC
Hi, Does anyone use Inno Setup Compiler/ISTool to install VNC? I created my own setup program to install just the server to host PCs with correct registry settings and everything, and a few other VNC admin tools, such as VNCon. I'm creating another setup program with a newer version of some of the files, and I was wondering if its possible to get Inno Setup Compiler/ISTool to rename the old files before it installs the newer files, I'd like to keep the older files there in case something goes wrong, and we have to revert back to them, as its being installed on mobile laptops we might not be able to get to them again for a while. Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
VNC Program Group
Hi, I've been using IS Tool, and Inno Setup to create 2 VNC installs, 1 for workstations that's just the server, and 1 for us in admin, that has the viewer, and a few other tools like VNCon. I've set the program group to Programs - VNC I notice that the VNC install from the VNC site, setups up icons in Programs - RealVNC Which should I be using? Also I've noticed that different versions on VNC install to different places, usually to Program Files\Orl\VNC But once I saw Program Files\RealVNC Is there not a set standard? Can get a bit annoying if you have multiple icons and installs around the system Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: IS Tool + Inno Setup
Yeah, I'm not to worried about other languages, I'm creating the setup program just
for us to use as a remote admin tool. So its only
going to be installed on 200+ win2k/nt machines, with maybe 4x 98 and 1x 95 machine
that has yet to be migrated over to nt based
systems. If a situtation occures where we want to install a normal setup with vnc
showing in the all users start menu, we'll just run
the original vnc setup exe program, as they will both be in the same directory.
Ben
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ealvnc.com
13/02/2003 20:24
Keep in mind that the folders might not be called Start Menu and
Programs if you are running Windows in other languages. It is best to ask
windows for the right path. Another situation is where you might want to
have the shortcut installed under AllUsers instead of your own personal
profile.
Michael Milette
At 10:54 AM 2003-02-13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not too familiar with the programs which you're speaking of, but if
you're allowed to choose where the shortcuts
are being created, I would just use the environmental variable
%userprofile%\start menu\programs\VNC This will
copy the links into the current user's start menu rather than into the all
users. I do see a number of programs
that give you the option to make available to all users or current user,
so if it's possible, you might want to include
that option. People can change the name of the administrator or have
multiple administrators on the same machine,
to make the menu icons available to only administrators requires more
knowledge about user permissions than what
I have right now, so in that I couldn't help you.
Regards,
Beau
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2003 7:36 AM
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Subject:IS Tool + Inno Setup
Hi,
I'm using IS Tool Inno setup to create my own VNC installation, which
sets the default password, and program settings. I'm having a
bit of bother with the icons, currently it installs start menu icons to
{group}\VNC
{group}\VNC\Administrative Tools\
But this means everyone can get to the icons, is it possible just to stick
the icons in the admin start menu, so other users don't get
them.
Cheers
Ben
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IS Tool + Inno Setup
Hi,
I'm using IS Tool Inno setup to create my own VNC installation, which sets the
default password, and program settings. I'm having a
bit of bother with the icons, currently it installs start menu icons to
{group}\VNC
{group}\VNC\Administrative Tools\
But this means everyone can get to the icons, is it possible just to stick the icons
in the admin start menu, so other users don't get
them.
Cheers
Ben
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Yeah thats what I thought, but I wasn't to sure of the variable, it currently uses
{group}\VNC\Administration and as far as I
know {group} isn't a windows variable, so I think it must be a variable just for this
program, I was wondering if it has a variable for
admin group, maybe {admin} or something.
Ben
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I'm not too familiar with the programs which you're speaking of, but if you're allowed
to choose where the shortcuts
are being created, I would just use the environmental variable %userprofile%\start
menu\programs\VNC This will
copy the links into the current user's start menu rather than into the all users. I
do see a number of programs
that give you the option to make available to all users or current user, so if it's
possible, you might want to include
that option. People can change the name of the administrator or have multiple
administrators on the same machine,
to make the menu icons available to only administrators requires more knowledge about
user permissions than what
I have right now, so in that I couldn't help you.
Regards,
Beau
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Hi,
I'm using IS Tool Inno setup to create my own VNC installation, which sets the
default password, and program settings. I'm having a
bit of bother with the icons, currently it installs start menu icons to
{group}\VNC
{group}\VNC\Administrative Tools\
But this means everyone can get to the icons, is it possible just to stick the icons
in the admin start menu, so other users don't get
them.
Cheers
Ben
==
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RE: VNC client management GUI available for download
Beau Thats a great bit of software, been looking for something like that for ages! Only trouble with it is, its so slow! It scans the network fine, but when you connect to a server, its takes ages to do anything. Just moving the mouse around takes 5 minutes. Have you experianced any problems? Maybe its the way mine is set up! Cheers Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Beau.Haefke@fedg roup.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: cc: vnc-list-admin@r Subject: RE: VNC client management GUI available for download ealvnc.com 05/02/2003 14:27 Yury, I agree with Ben on this, I have about 120 stations where I work and it would be useful to have a network scan feature. I have been using VNCon http://vncon.chronetal.co.uk/ which has that feature already, but your interface looks quite a bit better, and if you do get some type of scan going, I definitely would consider using it. Thanks for the demo. Regards, Beau -Original Message- From: MIME :[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:MIME :[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC client management GUI available for download Hi Yury, A very nice bit of software. I'd fine it quite useful for managing our 200+ workstations. Just a few points, hope its helpful input, and I dunno if others think the same, if not, ignore me! 1. When you add the server, and its in the list, I expected to double click on it, and open the server connection, but instead it opened up the properties menu. To open the connection I had to use the icon. I'd find it useful to just double click on a name and connect to the server. Then use right click on the server name and select properties from a menu. 2. Would be useful if it could automatically scan the network and find all waiting servers. Something like PC Anywhere or Control It's manager. This way rather than having to setup each individual connection for 200+ workstations, it would just scan the network, and set them up automatically, updating itself each time its run. These are just 2 things I'd find useful, especially the network scan for available vnc servers, but I know that will be a huge job to undertake! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Yury Averkiev [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: OT - Network Broadcast
Well some messages are important, and HAVE to be read, rather than just igored, like if the server is going to be rebooted, so we tell people to save their work, otherwise it will be lost. At the moment the message pops up, and they just ignore it, and click ok, without reading it. I don't really mind if they find it annoying or not, if they read it in the 1st place we wouldn't have to do it. And its only for 5 seconds, if they are reading it, the countdown would be gone by the time they read it. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Joseph J. Greenberg To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] vnc-list@greenb cc: erg.net Subject: Re: OT - Network Broadcast Sent by: vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 05/02/2003 00:40 I for one, as a network user, would find that INCREDIBLY annoying, unless it said this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds, and had a countdown timer. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:29 AM Subject: OT - Network Broadcast Hi, This is off topic, but I was wondering, as well have a lot of people on the list who run a network, and remotly admin it! What do people use to do network broadcasts? At the moment we use a netsend GUI, where we can enter a message, and the workstations names, press send, and a message appears on the screen of the worstations. Works great, plus works on all workstations (NT/2K), as they all support it, we use it for sending messages like Server will go down in 5 minutes or please remember to phone IT if photocopier jams etc. However, problem is, the message pops up, and people don't even read it, they just click ok. I was wondering, is there any comms software, that will popup, and not allow people to close it, for say, 5 seconds, or something. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list
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I don't want it to go away after X number of seconds on its on, just now allow a user to click 'ok' until that time is up. We only send the message to users it applys to anyway, as we don't do network broadcats to everyone, we insert the machine name, so we can pick and choose. We already do it like this, and it hasn't prompted any phone calls yet! Although thats probably because people don't read them. I was just wondering if people used any other product rather than netsend, as its a bit basic. We have novell, and that has the novel message broadcast, but not all our machines use the novell client, and we're geting rid of it next month anyway. Anyway, don't want to take up more of the lists time resources, as its not a VNC question, thanks for peoples input! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Carl wc4h@bellsouth. To: VNC [EMAIL PROTECTED] net cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: OT - Network Broadcast vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 05/02/2003 01:40 Ditto. They won't read the messages anyway. Also, you have to consider people that are legitimately away from the PC. They will never see the message. When I was in IT, we had a net admin that sent messages all the time. They annoyed the heck out of people, who as you correctly stated, do not read them. The messages also had the drawback of spawning untold phone calls and /or emails asking for special extensions or asking questions like does it apply to me?. Folks got annoyed and confused. Carl - Original Message - From: Joseph J. Greenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: OT - Network Broadcast I for one, as a network user, would find that INCREDIBLY annoying, unless it said this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds, and had a countdown timer. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 3:29 AM Subject: OT - Network Broadcast Hi, This is off topic, but I was wondering, as well have a lot of people on the list who run a network, and remotly admin it! What do people use to do network broadcasts? At the moment we use a netsend GUI, where we can enter a message, and the workstations names, press send, and a message appears on the screen of the worstations. Works great, plus works on all workstations (NT/2K), as they all support it, we use it for sending messages like Server will go down in 5 minutes or please remember to phone IT if photocopier jams etc. However, problem is, the message pops up, and people don't even read it, they just click ok. I was wondering, is there any comms software, that will popup, and not allow people to close it, for say, 5 seconds, or something. == Triumph International
Re: VNC client management GUI available for download
Hi Yury, A very nice bit of software. I'd fine it quite useful for managing our 200+ workstations. Just a few points, hope its helpful input, and I dunno if others think the same, if not, ignore me! 1. When you add the server, and its in the list, I expected to double click on it, and open the server connection, but instead it opened up the properties menu. To open the connection I had to use the icon. I'd find it useful to just double click on a name and connect to the server. Then use right click on the server name and select properties from a menu. 2. Would be useful if it could automatically scan the network and find all waiting servers. Something like PC Anywhere or Control It's manager. This way rather than having to setup each individual connection for 200+ workstations, it would just scan the network, and set them up automatically, updating itself each time its run. These are just 2 things I'd find useful, especially the network scan for available vnc servers, but I know that will be a huge job to undertake! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Yury Averkiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om cc: Sent by: Subject: VNC client management GUI available for download vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 04/02/2003 15:12 Guys, I've finished first preview version of VNC client management GUI. This application allows to manage connections to the remote VNC servers from single application. For now application has only basic functionality available. But in a long term I'm planning to develop application similar to the PCanywhere client. VNC manager can be downloaded from: http://www.yurysweb.com/YurysWeb/products.aspx So please give a try to this tool and send my your feedback and comments on it. Best regards, Yury ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
OT - Network Broadcast
Hi, This is off topic, but I was wondering, as well have a lot of people on the list who run a network, and remotly admin it! What do people use to do network broadcasts? At the moment we use a netsend GUI, where we can enter a message, and the workstations names, press send, and a message appears on the screen of the worstations. Works great, plus works on all workstations (NT/2K), as they all support it, we use it for sending messages like Server will go down in 5 minutes or please remember to phone IT if photocopier jams etc. However, problem is, the message pops up, and people don't even read it, they just click ok. I was wondering, is there any comms software, that will popup, and not allow people to close it, for say, 5 seconds, or something. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Is this an issue of posting etiquette?
I think it was because we had 1 user, who set his auto reply out of office. So a message went to him, his out of office replied to the list, which was then sent to him, which the out of office replied to again, it went around and around for a whole day, I remember my inbox receiving about 250 emails just from his auto out of office replying to itself. So a change was made to the list, so if an auto out of office situation should happen, it would be sent to the person who sent the original email, rather than the list, so it wouldn't keep replying. Personally I think the list was fine, but it was the auto reply software that was s**t, and should have recognised the list in the headers. Most do this, I know Lotus Scrotes does! Ben == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == arkenstone arkenstone@intern To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], VNC List [EMAIL PROTECTED] ode.on.netcc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Is this an issue of posting etiquette? vnc-list-admin@rea lvnc.com 03/02/2003 09:12 I'll have to agree with all of this, specifically what John Kaufmann said. It's quite often more difficult to follow a thread on this list, due to the whole reply-to header. As i only joined the list in the last month or so, would anyone be able to enlighten me as to why this change was made? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Please remove me from the list - gimp!
Does this annoy anyone else? Does nobody RTFM now a days? There is a link at the bottom of every post! IF U WANT TO BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST GO TO http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list DON'T SEND EMAIL TO THE LIST ASKING TO BE REMOVED == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == David Moreau dnmoreau@yahoo. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com cc: Sent by: Subject: Please remove me from the list vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 31/01/2003 16:01 Please remove me from the list. Thank you. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Please remove me from the list - gimp!
It inspires frustration! And we've tried to get the web site changed, but we can't its all administered from head office in switzerland! What they say goes! Lots of things we'd like changed, but can't! Anyway, its a monday morning, and at the time I hadn't had my 1st cup of coffee, and had already been called out to fix 2 problems, so I was a little touchy! Feeling much better now! Just irritating that people don't read the obvious! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Alex Morris vnc-list@alexmo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rris.co.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Please remove me from the list - gimp! vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 03/02/2003 09:31 Given that - judging by your signature below - you work for a brassiere manufacturer and are presumably surrounded by a teeming horde of scantily-clad beauties one would have wondered that you might not be a little more relaxed. Or does being surrounded by the aforementioned scantily-clad beauties inspire frustration? :-) -- Alex Morris P.S. I just had a look at the Triumph International website. Is it necessary for _two_ pop-up browser windows to be spawned before the Flash content loads? Why not just have the Flash content load in the original browser window? Just a thought. If you're not directly involved with the website I'd be grateful if you could mention it to those who are. Does this annoy anyone else? Does nobody RTFM now a days? There is a link at the bottom of every post! IF U WANT TO BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST GO TO http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list DON'T SEND EMAIL TO THE LIST ASKING TO BE REMOVED == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Best VNC?
Hi, Its an S3 virge, or trio card I think, 4mb/8mb (not sure), bog standard, I never stick anything better than that on cause its just a server. Should I upgrade the card? Maybe a better card, with more memory will speed things up, if the card takes over some of the refresh operations, rather than the cpu? == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Greg Breland gbreland@mozill To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] anews.org cc: Subject: Re: Best VNC? 24/01/2003 06:43 Do you have an ATI video card? This is not a normal load when VNCing into a machine and I some versions of ATI cards can cause this. Try going into Start-Settings-Control Panel-Display-Settings-Advanced-Troubleshooting and turn the acceleration down to None. This will not slow down your machine unless you play games. Greg On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 09:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another thing I've noticed with VNC is the CPU usage, on PCs you connect to. I have performance monitor running on our NT4 server, and that runs along quite happily at 7% until you VNC to it, then it seems to jump to about 97%. Is this normal? Anyway I can lower it? It kinda grinds to a halt, the system is a little old, but not to bad, 256mb ram, 1ghz etc. But its the same on my home PCs, which are 2ghz, win2000. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Best VNC?
Did it not become UltraVNC? That is a few different people clubbed together, I think its 2 flavours of VNC merged, with bits added! Kinda like a bowl of chocolate vanilla icecream, with sprinkles on top! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == John Creegan jcreegan@questa To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rweb.comcc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Best VNC? vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 23/01/2003 14:05 There were plans at one time, and a few people had gotten together quite the initial discussion on the topic. If I remember correctly, Andrew Van Der Stock was involved. Please forgive me... I don't remember the names of everyone involved. I believe Glenn Mabbutt weighed in, and perhaps Scott Best. I'm pretty sure the project had a space on sourceforge. I just wish I could remember the name of the project. I've been wondering for over a year what happened to this project. Late in 2000, there was much discussion about it, then, poof! I've looked through the mailing archives, searching for sourceforge and there aren't any references that go back that far. And I don't have time to read the October/November/December 2000 archives. Sorry. What ever did happen with this project, anyway? - John From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Best VNC? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:55:25 + Hi, I've been using the Real VNC for about 4 months now, and think its a great bit of software for remote admin, its installed on 150 workstations, and means I don't have to walk all around the warehouse. But after reading some of the posts on this list I thought maybe I should 'upgrade' to something more secure, over our network. Which flavour of VNC is most secure? Tridia, Tight, esvnc, this new Ultra vnc, or use what I have, but ssh tunnel it? We also have some laptops, that our reps user, so I've been installing tight vnc 1.2.6 on them, as it gives better compression, so when we connect to them over modem its faster. Is there a version that is both secure, and gives better compression? Also can anyone get to http://www.tightvnc.org or http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net both seem to be down! Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:12:38 + To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Alex Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best VNC? We also have some laptops, that our reps user, so I've been installing tight vnc 1.2.6 on them, 1.2.7 is available. Is there a version that is both secure, and gives better compression? According to all the documentation I've been reading over the past few days, VNC itself isn't secure, nor are there plans to integrate security. I've just managed to get it working using SSH tunnelling. A few minutes ago I read about another product called Zebedee which, while nowhere near as comprehensive as SSH, claims to provide encrypted TCP/IP tunnels. Also can anyone get
re: Best VNC?
Cheers, I'll have a look! From what I've read, it looks like what I might need! The fine print is also true, especially the last bit! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == Richard Harris richard.harris@nott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] scc.gov.uk cc: Sent by: Subject: re: Best VNC? vnc-list-admin@realv nc.com 23/01/2003 13:37 Is there a version that is both secure, and gives better compression? You could use Zvnc which include a compressed/secure tunnel in it. It connects on port 6000. It was written by Dave Dyer and I don't know how much more work he's done on including other features (like NTLM or Tight encoding). His site is here : http://home.attbi.com/%7Edavedyer/znc/zvnc.html BTW, read the fine print, its very funny. :-) later, Richard - Richard Harris Environment IT, NCC Ext 4509 - Service, price , quality: pick any two. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager via NCC Help Desk (0115) 9772010. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Nottinghamshire County Council Legal Disclaimer ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Best VNC?
Another thing I've noticed with VNC is the CPU usage, on PCs you connect to. I have performance monitor running on our NT4 server, and that runs along quite happily at 7% until you VNC to it, then it seems to jump to about 97%. Is this normal? Anyway I can lower it? It kinda grinds to a halt, the system is a little old, but not to bad, 256mb ram, 1ghz etc. But its the same on my home PCs, which are 2ghz, win2000. == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Log Files
Is there anyway to log who connects through vnc? We'd like, if possible, to log IP address, and time! == Triumph International Ltd Arkwright Road, Groundwell, Swindon, SN25 5BE Ben Blackmore I.T. Department Phone: +44 (0) 1793 720126 Fax: +44 (0) 1793 720179 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit us at: http://www.triumph-international.co.uk == This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. == ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Caps Lock On/Off?
Hi, I just noticed something when controlling a users PC, I was entering the password, in what I thought was lowercase, as my caps lock was off, and it wouldn't accept it, I spend ages trying to see what was wrong, I decided to try with my caps lock on, and it worked. Only when I was typing a message to the user in notepad, did I notice that when my caps lock was off, it was printing capitals, and when mine was on it was lowercase. I physically went to the PC, and her caps lock was on, when I turned mine on, hers turned off. It seems if you connect, and the host machine has caps lock on, and you don't, it takes the host settings, then if you turn yours on, it turns the hosts off! Is it meant to do this, or is it a bug? ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Wheel mouse in VNC 3.3.5
Make sure you have the correct drivers for your wheel mouse installed. Mine lets me scroll down on web pages, and in word documents and stuff, I use it all the time, so much easier to move 1 finger than mess with scroll bars! Mine doesn't work until I install the correct drivers, and configure it. I don't think its automatically supported by Windows Ben John Li johnli2k@hotmai To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] l.com cc: Sent by: Subject: Wheel mouse in VNC 3.3.5 vnc-list-admin@r ealvnc.com 07/11/2002 22:03 Please respond to vnc-list Hi, In the 3.3.5 release notes, it says wheel mouse is supported in the win vncviewer. What does it mean? If I use the win vncviewer to connect to a unix server (both are version 3.3.5) and the X server windows is bigger than the viewer, can I use the wheel of wheel mouse to scroll down (instead of dragging down the side bar of the viewer window)? I am using Windows 2000 and vncviewer 3.3.5 does not scroll down when I use the wheel. Thanks. --John _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: Where is Jeff.Koenig + mail rules
For the maillist option to set the reply to the poster or to the list, I prefer the reply to be to the list, to keep the discussion going and to also get the answers in the archive. I agree, if its kept in the mailing list, it helps others who might see it, and have a simular problem. Best way to deal with this is just to set a rule in your mail client, and tell it to delete the mail from the server, you don't even have to download it. Thats what I've done. I won't get messages from Jeff Koenig ever again. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Where is Jeff.Koenig
How about sending a email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (his work domain i think [EMAIL PROTECTED]) asking them to freeze his account or something? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Where is Jeff.Koenig Sorry guys but I had to ask... does anyone know where Jeff Koeing is :) Maybe it would be in the list's bet interest to take him off the list... J -Original Message- From: Jeff.Koenig [mailto:Jeff.Koenig;experian.com] Sent: 06 November 2002 04:10 To: vnc-list Subject: Re: AllowEditClients (Jeff outoftheofficeWednesday11/6/2002)(Jeff out of the officeWednesday11/6/2002)(Jeff out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002) (Jeffout ofthe office Wednesday 11/6/2002) (Jeff out of the officeWednesday 11/6/2002) (Jeff out of the I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 19:29 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 18:53 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 18:27 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 18:18 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 18:02 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 17:15 I will be out of the office Wednesday 11/6/2002. I will be back in the office on Thursday 11/7/2002. Jeff Koenig Experian [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/02 17:02 Thanks Will, I'll give it a try tomorrow at work. I've only been using vnc for 2 days, good product, just getting to grips with installing it on 140 PCs all at once! Ben - Original Message - From: William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: RE: AllowEditClients -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vnc-list-admin;realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AllowEditClients Hi, You have a massive pile of X-Notes-Item headers in your mail, which mean it's necessary to scroll down to read your actual message. Please *try* to do something about them. -- -- from: Jonathan Chromatix Morton [snip] I find it ironic that someone with a 10 line signature is complaining about lines being added to a mail. It looks like the headers are from using Lotus Notes, and since that usually means a corporate environment there is nothing that can be done. Back to Ben's question, I believe you need to set the AllowEditClients key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ , notice the lack of the final default. All registry entries marked as Local machine-specific setting in the VNC documentation. Also be sure to restart the WinVNC server after making the registry edit. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL
Re: AllowEditClients
Yeah, what am I meant to do about it? Its our company policy. At least I removed the damn signature they make us add to every email, which is another 10 lines! Its notes, either that or your mail client. Both my mail clients, outlook here at home, and my notes at work display the message fine, without any headers! So I suggest you *try* to do something about your mail reader. No one else has moaned about my emails here, and I have asked a few in the past few days, so its probably just you! Ben - Original Message - From: Jonathan Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: AllowEditClients Hi, You have a massive pile of X-Notes-Item headers in your mail, which mean it's necessary to scroll down to read your actual message. Please *try* to do something about them. -- -- from: Jonathan Chromatix Morton mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: http://www.chromatix.uklinux.net/ geekcode: GCS$/E dpu(!) s:- a21 C+++ UL++ P L+++ E W+ N- o? K? w--- O-- M++$ V? PS PE- Y+ PGP++ t- 5- X- R !tv b++ DI+++ D G e+ h+ r++ y+(*) tagline: The key to knowledge is not to rely on people to teach you it. ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: AllowEditClients
Thanks Will, I'll give it a try tomorrow at work. I've only been using vnc for 2 days, good product, just getting to grips with installing it on 140 PCs all at once! Ben - Original Message - From: William Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:32 PM Subject: RE: AllowEditClients -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:vnc-list-admin;realvnc.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Morton Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AllowEditClients Hi, You have a massive pile of X-Notes-Item headers in your mail, which mean it's necessary to scroll down to read your actual message. Please *try* to do something about them. -- -- from: Jonathan Chromatix Morton [snip] I find it ironic that someone with a 10 line signature is complaining about lines being added to a mail. It looks like the headers are from using Lotus Notes, and since that usually means a corporate environment there is nothing that can be done. Back to Ben's question, I believe you need to set the AllowEditClients key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORL\WinVNC3\ , notice the lack of the final default. All registry entries marked as Local machine-specific setting in the VNC documentation. Also be sure to restart the WinVNC server after making the registry edit. -- William Hooper ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Gateway Possibilities?
Hi, Is it pissible to use VNC as a gateway? Like PC Anywhere used to be able to (version 9 I think, they removed it from version 10) One of the places I work for has a proxy server, about 10 other PCs look at the net through this PC. Is it possible to install VNC on the server, then install it on the 10 other PCs behind the proxy server, and for me to be at home, and connect through the server, and user 1 of the 10 other PCs? I spose its kinda like a pass through server. Cheers Ben ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Silent Installation On Users Workstations
Thanks, I've had a look at the site, seems to do everything we want it to. I've configured it all to my needs, and run the vnc.cmd file, it installs perfectly, except when I then try to connect to the PC I installed it on, I enter the IP address, then the password, but I get a 'VNC Authentication Failed'. Which password does it use? Where do you define what password you want? I thought it was the line set pass=password so I try loging in with password, but it fails. Ben - Original Message - From: Gary Sieker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Silent Installation On Users Workstations Hi Ben. My best advice is to check out a site developed by Richard Harris called 'fastpush'. It is basically devoted to giving people info on just what you want to do. He has scripts you can download and lots of advice on the subject. Check it out at: http://www.darkage.co.uk/ Cheers, -Gary Ben Blackmore writes Hi, I'd like to install vnc on our users workstations, from our novell logon script. We'd just like to install the server version on the worstations, then install the full version on the pc support team's pcs. Is this possible? As we don't want users to be able to use the viewer. Is it possible to force a silent installation on users workstations? We have the install file on the server, so I was wondering if it was possible to run vnc-3.3.4-x86_win32.exe with some command line options, that would set a default password (our admin password) and not have vnc add an icon to the desktop or start menu, but register the viewer as a service, and start that service. Cheers Ben -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Silent Installation On Users Workstations
Ok I found it, under the http://www.darkage.co.uk/vnc/howto/setupfp.htm page. I finally manage to get it to work, but it was looking for the password in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default] but my password isn't under that location, in fact that registery location is blank. All my settings are under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3\Default]. So I had to export the password from there, then import it to the local_machine. Should they be in the location suggested? Should I move all the settings from local_user to local_machine? I guess local_machine means that no matter what user logs on, all the settings will be the same, where as local_user is specific to that user? I also want to add the following AllowEditClients = REG_DWORD 0x AllowProperties = REG_DWORD 0x AllowShutdown = REG_DWORD 0x Should these go under local_machine, or local_user? I have them currently working under local_user. Ben - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:49 PM Subject: RE: Silent Installation On Users Workstations In order to set the password, you have to export a working password from the registry of a already configured VNC server. There is a utility on the website that can walk you through this. Regedit does not export the values correctly, so that will not work. I can make up some instructions for you if you want, but the information is on the website. -Original Message- From: Ben Blackmore [mailto:ben;benblackmore.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 4:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Silent Installation On Users Workstations :VSMail MX2 Thanks, I've had a look at the site, seems to do everything we want it to. I've configured it all to my needs, and run the vnc.cmd file, it installs perfectly, except when I then try to connect to the PC I installed it on, I enter the IP address, then the password, but I get a 'VNC Authentication Failed'. Which password does it use? Where do you define what password you want? I thought it was the line set pass=password so I try loging in with password, but it fails. Ben ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Silent Installation On Users Workstations
Hi, I'd like to install vnc on our users workstations, from our novell logon script. We'd just like to install the server version on the worstations, then install the full version on the pc support team's pcs. Is this possible? As we don't want users to be able to use the viewer. Is it possible to force a silent installation on users workstations? We have the install file on the server, so I was wondering if it was possible to run vnc-3.3.4-x86_win32.exe with some command line options, that would set a default password (our admin password) and not have vnc add an icon to the desktop or start menu, but register the viewer as a service, and start that service. Cheers Ben ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
