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thomas malloy wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. Actually it appears you did miss something. If you are so concerned and you want your address protected from web crawlers then you should post them on your web site in a cryptic form, not out in the clear as you have on you web page. You can add obvious spaces for example. Getting Spam is a necessary evil of accessibility. My ISP has a Spam filter, which works quite well. I get about 200 per day. I know this because I have to look it over, One day I found a message from a talk show host, on another Cyril Chuckanov. I hear that all the time from friends, family, people on the Internet. My poor aunt gets a lot more. Perhaps just lucky, but after being online since the mid 1990's still I only get about a few dozen spams per day. Maybe they don't like me, LOL.
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OrionWorks wrote: Paul, ...whose email address is clearly displayed in all my vortex-l messages every-single-time as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try this logic -- By my choice I submit to Vortex-l. Dr. Mike has not submitted his email to this list. People should not submit another persons email address without permission. The lack of foresight, and dim consciousness found in nearly every human being is rather frightening. It's no wonder an entire so-called civilized country of so-called humans can support a war of killing. You people can't get past your emotions, which passively dominate your consciousness. You continue to kill each other, cycle after cycle, and time after time you find what I refer to as fuzzy logic to justify your actions, referring to such wars as defense or preemptive strike. Please wake up! For someone who claims he is in pursuit of the truth, that his motivations are driven by pure logic I find it incredibly contradictory for you to express the amount of LOLing that you do when you disagree with the opinions of others. Indeed, because one needs to be light of heart to view such darkness within humanity. I've discovered that people dominated by the passive emotional ego become infuriated when they cannot strike emotions in another person who returns their emotions with a so-called smirky smile. My study reveals that people become more and more emotionally upset until they can at least spark some form of emotions in the person. ... My LOL's really bother you, don't they. All I can say is Sorry, but I'll continue being happy thank you very much. It's my firm belief you people are utterly dominated by emotions, which the east has rightfully identified and referred to as one's own self demons. It suggests on the surface a massive ego I'll be more than happy to debate with you to see if you can prove your claims that I am egotistical, but I already know your so-called logic has more holes than Swiss cheese, and IMHO you believe (more like feel) you are correct because you desire (an emotion) it to be so. Such a debate in all likelihood will bare very little fruit, accomplish next to nothing while wasting a great deal of time. After a lifetime of being correct nearly 100% of the time I can safely say that my words (not my opinions) are based on truth and are justified. If you only knew my actions, my history, and me then you would see how silly your words are. that constantly needs to reassert its personal concept of superiority by dismissing the opinions of others - by all that LOLing you constantly express directly in their face. It comes across as one gigantic bluff tactic. Who are you trying to fool? IMO, you might come across more sincerely and with greater integrity and respect if you were to tone down the amount of posturing that you tend to indulge in, particularly when in disagreement with the opinions of others. By all means, feel free to disagree with the opinions of others. We all do. I certainly do. I certainly haven't agreed with how you have been going about expressing a lot of your opinions lately. I've kept those personal opinions to myself – until now. You offer zero proof. PS: Your last concluding comment to Horace where you say: BTW, let me know when you want continue our debate on capturing ambient energy so I can educate (LOL) you on some fundamental physics. ...reveals a very shallow, petty and manipulative attitude. Very arrogant. There is little room for the pursuit of truth or the pursuit of pure logic when one allows themselves to be consumed by such behaviors. My LOL in I can educate (LOL) was between Horace and I. Horace gets it. It appears you have no clue what the LOL truly meant in this case. My LOL was a reflection of a sentence Horace has repeatedly posted recently. Regards, Paul Lowrance
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Michel, I understand you probably were not following the thread, but as Horace even pointed out that Spammers subscribe to as many email lists as possible. Therefore, when someone posts an email address then you're giving such spammers that email. Although knowing how polite and gentle Dr. Mike usually is, surely he would not mind, but there's still no excuse. Horace is not perfect, but for him to argue and argue about an obvious negative act is ... This is pure and simple logic. For the umpteenth time, you people don't need to post Dr. Mikes email and phone number when you can simply post Dr. Mikes web URL. If Dr. Mike wishes to remove or even modify his email address and/or phone number then support it. Don't hard code his email and phone number by emailing it. Don't post it to potential spammers without first obtaining his permission. Just in case that did not sink in with you people, post the URL rather than the email address phone number. If Dr. Mike changes his email and/or phone number then it will reflect on his web page. Such a change will not reflect in your email. Michel Jullian wrote: Paul, the Vortex-L web archive automatically hides addresses given in the text of messages, cf: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg20909.html Further, as Horace correctly pointed out, the particular address [EMAIL PROTECTED] you accused him of disseminating to this list's hypothetical spammers has been publicized in an unhidden form on several web pages, see: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=eresrch%40eskimo.combtnG=Google+Search So kindly stop going on about this, you seem to fail to realize you're boring us all to death. Michel - Original Message - From: Paul Lowrance To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn OrionWorks wrote: Paul, ...whose email address is clearly displayed in all my vortex-l Try this logic -- By my choice I submit to Vortex-l. Dr. Mike has not submitted his email to this list. People should not submit another persons email address without permission. The lack of foresight, and dim consciousness found in nearly every human being is rather frightening. It's no wonder an entire so-called civilized country of so-called humans can support a war of killing. You people can't get past your emotions, which passively dominate your consciousness. You continue to kill each other, cycle after cycle, and time after time you find what I refer to as fuzzy logic to justify your actions, referring to such wars as defense or preemptive strike. Please wake up! For someone who claims he is in pursuit of the truth, that his motivations are driven by pure logic I find it incredibly contradictory for you to express the amount of LOLing that you do when you disagree with the opinions of others. Indeed, because one needs to be light of heart to view such darkness within humanity. I've discovered that people dominated by the passive emotional ego become infuriated when they cannot strike emotions in another person who returns their emotions with a so-called smirky smile. My study reveals that people become more and more emotionally upset until they can at least spark some form of emotions in the person. ... My LOL's really bother you, don't they. All I can say is Sorry, but I'll continue being happy thank you very much. It's my firm belief you people are utterly dominated by emotions, which the east has rightfully identified and referred to as one's own self demons. It suggests on the surface a massive ego I'll be more than happy to debate with you to see if you can prove your claims that I am egotistical, but I already know your so-called logic has more holes than Swiss cheese, and IMHO you believe (more like feel) you are correct because you desire (an emotion) it to be so. Such a debate in all likelihood will bare very little fruit, accomplish next to nothing while wasting a great deal of time. After a lifetime of being correct nearly 100% of the time I can safely say that my words (not my opinions) are based on truth and are justified. If you only knew my actions, my history, and me then you would see how silly your words are. that constantly needs to reassert its personal concept of superiority by dismissing the opinions of others - by all that LOLing you constantly express directly in their face. It comes across as one gigantic bluff tactic. Who are you trying to fool? IMO, you might come across more sincerely and with greater integrity and respect if you were to tone down the amount of posturing that you tend to indulge in, particularly when in disagreement with the opinions of others. By all means, feel free to disagree with the opinions of others. We all do. I certainly do. I certainly haven't agreed with how you have been going about expressing a lot of your opinions lately. I've kept those personal opinions to myself – until now
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Paul, the Vortex-L web archive automatically hides addresses given in the text of messages, cf: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg20909.html Further, as Horace correctly pointed out, the particular address [EMAIL PROTECTED] you accused him of disseminating to this list's hypothetical spammers has been publicized in an unhidden form on several web pages, see: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=eresrch%40eskimo.combtnG=Google+Search So kindly stop going on about this, you seem to fail to realize you're boring us all to death. Michel - Original Message - From: Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn OrionWorks wrote: Paul, ...whose email address is clearly displayed in all my vortex-l messages every-single-time as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try this logic -- By my choice I submit to Vortex-l. Dr. Mike has not submitted his email to this list. People should not submit another persons email address without permission. The lack of foresight, and dim consciousness found in nearly every human being is rather frightening. It's no wonder an entire so-called civilized country of so-called humans can support a war of killing. You people can't get past your emotions, which passively dominate your consciousness. You continue to kill each other, cycle after cycle, and time after time you find what I refer to as fuzzy logic to justify your actions, referring to such wars as defense or preemptive strike. Please wake up! For someone who claims he is in pursuit of the truth, that his motivations are driven by pure logic I find it incredibly contradictory for you to express the amount of LOLing that you do when you disagree with the opinions of others. Indeed, because one needs to be light of heart to view such darkness within humanity. I've discovered that people dominated by the passive emotional ego become infuriated when they cannot strike emotions in another person who returns their emotions with a so-called smirky smile. My study reveals that people become more and more emotionally upset until they can at least spark some form of emotions in the person. ... My LOL's really bother you, don't they. All I can say is Sorry, but I'll continue being happy thank you very much. It's my firm belief you people are utterly dominated by emotions, which the east has rightfully identified and referred to as one's own self demons. It suggests on the surface a massive ego I'll be more than happy to debate with you to see if you can prove your claims that I am egotistical, but I already know your so-called logic has more holes than Swiss cheese, and IMHO you believe (more like feel) you are correct because you desire (an emotion) it to be so. Such a debate in all likelihood will bare very little fruit, accomplish next to nothing while wasting a great deal of time. After a lifetime of being correct nearly 100% of the time I can safely say that my words (not my opinions) are based on truth and are justified. If you only knew my actions, my history, and me then you would see how silly your words are. that constantly needs to reassert its personal concept of superiority by dismissing the opinions of others - by all that LOLing you constantly express directly in their face. It comes across as one gigantic bluff tactic. Who are you trying to fool? IMO, you might come across more sincerely and with greater integrity and respect if you were to tone down the amount of posturing that you tend to indulge in, particularly when in disagreement with the opinions of others. By all means, feel free to disagree with the opinions of others. We all do. I certainly do. I certainly haven't agreed with how you have been going about expressing a lot of your opinions lately. I've kept those personal opinions to myself – until now. You offer zero proof. PS: Your last concluding comment to Horace where you say: BTW, let me know when you want continue our debate on capturing ambient energy so I can educate (LOL) you on some fundamental physics. ...reveals a very shallow, petty and manipulative attitude. Very arrogant. There is little room for the pursuit of truth or the pursuit of pure logic when one allows themselves to be consumed by such behaviors. My LOL in I can educate (LOL) was between Horace and I. Horace gets it. It appears you have no clue what the LOL truly meant in this case. My LOL was a reflection of a sentence Horace has repeatedly posted recently. Regards, Paul Lowrance
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. Actually it appears you did miss something. If you are so concerned and you want your address protected from web crawlers then you should post them on your web site in a cryptic form, not out in the clear as you have on you web page. You can add obvious spaces for example. Getting Spam is a necessary evil of accessibility. My ISP has a Spam filter, which works quite well. I get about 200 per day. I know this because I have to look it over, One day I found a message from a talk show host, on another Cyril Chuckanov. --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---
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I'll make an admittedly off-topic statement when I say that, as with your need to label Marissa a little girl, you seem to have been rabble-rousing. (you even went out of your way, because the alliteration of Little's little is just terrible) Perhaps we can keep this on-topic by noting that you actions may have had more impact had they been more professionally courteous. On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl, Marissa. Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from those threads deleted and people banned. I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator named magnatrix. BTW, the bloggers caught it: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/ Such silliness! Terry On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry
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- Original Message - From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn As an internet group that is widely read we should refrain from mentioning someone's daughter by name. In this case she is both a professional and a very good one for what I have seen of her work. Indeed Terry hasn't been courteous in this occasion, but is he ever? For example he hasn't talked to me since I last pointed out an error in one of his calculations, instead of thanking me for that as a courteous person would have done. Michel and entitled to privacy. Richard - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn Me, courteous? I have earned the right to be a curmudgeon. sniff On 7/17/07, Zachary Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll make an admittedly off-topic statement when I say that, as with your need to label Marissa a little girl, you seem to have been rabble-rousing. (you even went out of your way, because the alliteration of Little's little is just terrible) Perhaps we can keep this on-topic by noting that you actions may have had more impact had they been more professionally courteous. On Jul 15, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl, Marissa. Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from those threads deleted and people banned. I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator named magnatrix. BTW, the bloggers caught it: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/ Such silliness! Terry On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.6/902 - Release Date: 7/15/2007 2:21 PM
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... and I'll add that a persons email and phone # should *not* be published on the Internet without his or her permission. I'm still a little appalled that someone at Vo publishing Dr. Mike's email phone #. R.C.Macaulay wrote: As an internet group that is widely read we should refrain from mentioning someone's daughter by name. In this case she is both a professional and entitled to privacy. Richard
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Dr. Mike's email is posted in his profile on Steorn. Marissa is listed as an experimentalist on Earthtech's web site: http://earthtech.org/principals/index.html Youse guys are being silly. Curmudgeon On 7/17/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and I'll add that a persons email and phone # should *not* be published on the Internet without his or her permission. I'm still a little appalled that someone at Vo publishing Dr. Mike's email phone #. R.C.Macaulay wrote: As an internet group that is widely read we should refrain from mentioning someone's daughter by name. In this case she is both a professional and entitled to privacy. Richard
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Exactly. Post his profile url, silly. People have no business posting his email phone # until you get his permission, period. That's common Internet educate. If Dr. Mike wants to remove his email from the Internet then he merely needs to delete it from his profile. How's he going to remove it from hundreds of web pages? Furthermore there's the topic of online spiders that collect email address for spamming purposes. Unbelievable, LOL Terry Blanton wrote: Dr. Mike's email is posted in his profile on Steorn. Marissa is listed as an experimentalist on Earthtech's web site: http://earthtech.org/principals/index.html Youse guys are being silly. Curmudgeon On 7/17/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and I'll add that a persons email and phone # should *not* be published on the Internet without his or her permission. I'm still a little appalled that someone at Vo publishing Dr. Mike's email phone #. R.C.Macaulay wrote: As an internet group that is widely read we should refrain from mentioning someone's daughter by name. In this case she is both a professional and entitled to privacy. Richard
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Exactly. Post his profile url, silly. People have no business posting his email phone # until you get his permission, period. That's common Internet educate. If Dr. Mike wants to remove his email from the Internet then he merely needs to delete it from his profile. How's he going to remove it from hundreds of web pages? Furthermore there's the topic of online spiders that collect email address for spamming purposes. There are crawlers and acrchivers of web pages also. You put something on a web page and you can expect it to be around indefinitely. Ever hear of the Wayback Machine? http://www.archive.org/web/web.php Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: ... and I'll add that a persons email and phone # should *not* be published on the Internet without his or her permission. I'm still a little appalled that someone at Vo publishing Dr. Mike's email phone #. It was published on his web site. It is therefor public information. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Exactly. Post his profile url, silly. People have no business posting his email phone # until you get his permission, period. That's common Internet educate. If Dr. Mike wants to remove his email from the Internet then he merely needs to delete it from his profile. How's he going to remove it from hundreds of web pages? Furthermore there's the topic of online spiders that collect email address for spamming purposes. There are crawlers and acrchivers of web pages also. You put something on a web page and you can expect it to be around indefinitely. Ever hear of the Wayback Machine? You betcha I have! Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 6:17 AM, Paul Lowrance wrote: ... and I'll add that a persons email and phone # should *not* be published on the Internet without his or her permission. I'm still a little appalled that someone at Vo publishing Dr. Mike's email phone #. It was published on his web site. It is therefor public information. Whoosh! Right over your head Horace. ;-) It's called educate. Educate is not a requirement. People don't have to be nice, just as people can grab anyone's email address and post it at all over the Internet. My email address is publish -- http://energymover.googlepages.com/ Yet it's in javascript to prevent spiders, but I certainly do *not* want people blasting my email address all over the Internet. If one must pass it on, then *please* do it privately or by some other appropriate manner.
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: My email address is publish -- http://energymover.googlepages.com/ Yet it's in javascript to prevent spiders, but I certainly do *not* want people blasting my email address all over the Internet. If one must pass it on, then *please* do it privately or by some other appropriate manner. That's absurd. Your email is in every reply to every email you send to vortex. Spammers pay people to pick up email addresses from places like your web site and vortex. You put it there and it is public information. Your request is like putting your phone number on the front of your house or in the newspaper and expecting people to keep it a secret. Further, web crawlers are getting smarter all the time. They are especially good at picking email addresses and URLs out of character streams that come back from a web site. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Paul Lowrance wrote: There are indeed sites that post your email address, which is why I try my best to maintain minimum posting at such sites. As stated, there are sites that have poor educate. Generally smaller sites who can't afford to program proper anti-spam server code. Google is a prime example of a friendly site: http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=X7urRBYJHa_jqwY19aFntqcVejzHGqZCb31EP3mTXmcXfEDh8A A person can obtain Uncle Al's email address, but a spider cannot.
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: My email address is publish -- http://energymover.googlepages.com/ Yet it's in javascript to prevent spiders, but I certainly do *not* want people blasting my email address all over the Internet. If one must pass it on, then *please* do it privately or by some other appropriate manner. That's absurd. Your email is in every reply to every email you send to vortex. Please post a Vortex-l archive URL of my email address? I didn't say anything about the vortex archive. You think there are no spammers subscribed to this list, and every other list they can get wind of? Quite a nonsensical assumption. There are indeed sites that post your email address, which is why I try my best to maintain minimum posting at such sites. Well this is not one of them. I see your email address plainly. You still want me to post it? I'll simply copy my message header info. You just can't admit it. This is all about educate, and you goofed up! Well, if this is about education then I guess I should let you know that educate is a verb and education is a noun. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: My email address is publish -- http://energymover.googlepages.com/ Yet it's in javascript to prevent spiders, but I certainly do *not* want people blasting my email address all over the Internet. If one must pass it on, then *please* do it privately or by some other appropriate manner. That's absurd. Your email is in every reply to every email you send to vortex. Please post a Vortex-l archive URL of my email address? I didn't say anything about the vortex archive. You think there are no spammers subscribed to this list, and every other list they can get wind of? Quite a nonsensical assumption. I have no idea how many spammers are subscribed to this list, but I don't see Dr Mike here. Again you're missing the point. We're trying to deter spam. Google and other friendly sites spend a lot of money trying to deter spammers.
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: I have no idea how many spammers are subscribed to this list, but I don't see Dr Mike here. Again you're missing the point. We're trying to deter spam. Google and other friendly sites spend a lot of money trying to deter spammers. I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. Educate is a verb. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:41 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: I have no idea how many spammers are subscribed to this list, but I don't see Dr Mike here. Again you're missing the point. We're trying to deter spam. Google and other friendly sites spend a lot of money trying to deter spammers. I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. I didn't miss anything. The moral of this story -- There will always be mindless jerk who doesn't give a rats a** about other people. Horace Heffner wrote: You think there are no spammers subscribed to this list, and every other list they can get wind of? You admit it. You posted Dr. Mikes email address to who knows how many spammers subscribed to this list. You have no morals what so ever ... surprise, surprise, LOL.
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On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:38 PM, R.C.Macaulay wrote: We can be civil and respectful in our decorum or we can degrade each other . The VortexL group has a persona of it's own. Unique in that there is little profanity or demeaning of one another. Three levels of conversation.. low is talking about oneself, next is talking about somebody else. High is talking about ideas. Give me a group like Vortex that talks about ideas. Stimulating and energizing. Richard OK. Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
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Horace Heffner wrote: On Jul 17, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Lowrance wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: I think you missed my point. If you don't want something public then don't make it so yourself. I didn't miss anything. The moral of this story -- There will always be mindless jerk who doesn't give a rats a** about other people. Actually it appears you did miss something. If you are so concerned and you want your address protected from web crawlers then you should post them on your web site in a cryptic form, not out in the clear as you have on you web page. You can add obvious spaces for example. LOL, this is hilarious. My email address on my site is and has been in cryptic form. You don't know what you're talking about. It's called javascript. You admit it. I don't think it is appropriate to cow tow to bullying trolls. It appears that in the future I should simply ignore any of your replies, but comment freely on your work, or not, as I chose. And I have zero respect for someone who acknowledges they submit an innocent persons email address to potential spammers. You posted Dr. Mikes email address to who knows how many spammers subscribed to this list. You have no morals what so ever ... surprise, surprise, LOL. I didn't post anything Dr. Mike did not put on his web site in public view. Fuzzy logic. You should get Dr. Mike's permission before posting his email address to a list of potential spammers. You could have *easily* posted Dr. Mikes URL rather than post his email. A lot of people don't know about or how to protect their email address with javascript. By posting Dr. Mikes URL you are giving Dr. Mike the option of removing or changing his email any time he wishes. Unbelievable. BTW, let me know when you want continue our debate on capturing ambient energy so I can educate (LOL) you on some fundamental physics.
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- Original Message - From: Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl, Marissa. If you mean one of the 12 in the jury, the blog you pointed us to quotes Marissa saying: ...There is a jury - and no, we aren't on it. Michel Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from those threads deleted and people banned. I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator named magnatrix. BTW, the bloggers caught it: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/ Such silliness! Terry On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry
Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn
Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry
Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn
I identified one of the scientists as Scott Little's little girl, Marissa. Some igit who thinks he's protecting some secret banned me for commenting on the fact that one can discern interesting facts from those threads deleted and people banned. I was instantly reinstated; so, it was a ego trip by the administrator named magnatrix. BTW, the bloggers caught it: http://freeenergytracker.blogspot.com/ Such silliness! Terry On 7/15/07, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry, What's this all about? If there was a prior related thread, I missed it. thx s Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry
Re: [Vo]:Banned from Steorn
ROFL, here is the official's statement: Date:Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:17:34 -0300 From: Magnatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Add to Address BookAdd to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Yahoo! DomainKeys has confirmed that this message was sent by gmail.com. Learn more To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:re; Banned Hi Terry I didn't want to have to ban you ( I don't like doing that), but you need to understand that if you start up about all the stuff that is moderated, you will end up causing a lot of work grief for the admins. Please don't being up issues regarding moderation ( how it was done) Thank you for your consideration I will now re-instate you. mags On 7/14/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simply for identifying the mysterious Marissa: http://eyres.home.texas.net/bios/Marissa.htm I also commented to the fact that they were giving away much information simply by the threads which they deleted. Something smells in Ireland. Terry
