Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
From Jones: ... The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue. The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's assume the worst. Why assume the worst ??? But, yes, agreed. I think the burst of radiation is an essential ingredient. For instance, it could have been a directed beam from a basement below the demo - of superradiant RF frequencies that act in a novel way stimulates a reaction. The question then becomes why not then promote that trick for its own right instead of making it into a scam? My best guess: The briefly detected EMP is part of the proprietary process that has yet to be officially patented. Like you, I also suspect its part of the initial start up procedure for the subsequent on-going catalytic reaction. Once the contents of the E-Cat reactor are initialized the initial EMP is no longer required. Of course, we are currently forced to ponder the 64 trillion dollar question: What specific EMP frequencies are involved? For those who know their fissix I'm sure the devil is in the details. ;-) I think such a conclusion is a no-brainer. And perhaps there is a good answer to that, which only Rossi knows for now. Or maybe it is part of his madness. I loved David Bowie's portrayal of Tesla. The film, Prestige, was excellent. It was a gripping horrific tale. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482571/ Keep your canaries caged! Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue. The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's assume the worst. Why assume the worst ??? But, yes, agreed. I think the burst of radiation is an essential ingredient. I think Jones meant let's look at the worst case scenario. My best guess: The briefly detected EMP is part of the proprietary process that has yet to be officially patented. There was no electromagnetic pulse. Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. The former detected nothing. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
Executive summary: Can anyone actually verify that E-Cat has ever been run when Rossi was not physically present? If not, why not? Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell SJ: My best guess: The briefly detected EMP is part of the proprietary process that has yet to be officially patented. JR: There was no electromagnetic pulse. Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. The former detected nothing. Well, Celani detected a large pulse of radiation (presumably gamma) before entering the demo, that is what we are talking about - so let us phrase it as: There was no detectable electromagnetic pulse during the operation of the demo. Which could mean only that Rossi's assistant in the basement finally got the drive beam focused correctly ;) Again this is an attempt to play the 'devil's advocate' here, but I wish that the genius Randi or some other out-of-work magician would do the honors, since as of now the weight of evidence does seem to remain firmly on Rossi's side. Nevertheless, it is a mistake not to present the well designed magic trick alternative. Or has this been done? For instance, that Rossi could not have invented a very efficient antenna for a directed beam of focused energy of some kind. Remember that the demo took place in an industrial building which Rossi rented, not the University premises. Did anyone check the floor above and below the demo room? Has Rossi ever allowed the machine to be running when he was not in attendance? Has he allowed it to be removed to the University? BTW, the putative energy beam hypothesis does conjure up the Tesla tower on Long Island and it was said that Tesla drove an automobile powered by this means. Did Rossi improve it to make it a directed energy beam? And there have been a number of recent wireless energy transfer breakthroughs (all of which should be detectable, but did Rossi come up with one which can be hidden?) However, this or any other kind of magic trick or Tesla-esque scenario could be cleared up instantly if it is true that the University staff has now been given free access to testing, and can move and open up the device, but with Rossi NOT being present. Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case. Can anyone actually verify that E-Cat has ever been run when Rossi was not physically present? He can promise anything - like isotope analysis. As long as it is in the future. Does it all turn on this: That no one really puts on such a show, just to get their 15 minutes of fame? I think this is the thing that LENR proponents are assuming - that no one, not even a crazy Italian who has told more half-truths than Clinton and Bush combined, would really go to these extremes to get 15 minutes of fame and maybe a TV deal on Fox. Heck, Rossi might have been recruited for this ! even planned it out from Day-one with the help of skeptics like Park Co (or more likely the Pentagon or spooks at some 3-letter org) as a sponsor, for all we really know. That would explain Park's unaccustomed silence. Maybe they want to embarrass the LENR community to such an extent that funding will never happen. That is a most ingenious way to protect military secrets, after all? Jones
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
From Jed: There was no electromagnetic pulse. Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. The former detected nothing. And what of the latter? Unfortunately, my careless use of the term EMP was too imprecise an interpretation. Let me rephrase my previous commentary. Correct me if I'm misinterpreting something here but based on what you just said, the implication is that the particle detectors DID detect something. In fact a LOT of something - briefly! LOTS of sub atomic particles I would assume. Just how many particles were detected is obviously a legitimate matter of concern, for safety reasons. The implication I was trying to suggest is that those unknown particles are most likely part of Rossi's E-Cat initialization procedure. It makes sense for me to speculate that the detected brief particle burst is proprietary in nature. Would help explain why Rossi remains mum on the subject. I suspect this particular matter will eventually be resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
From Jones: ... Heck, Rossi might have been recruited for this ! even planned it out from Day-one with the help of skeptics like Park Co (or more likely the Pentagon or spooks at some 3-letter org) as a sponsor, for all we really know. That would explain Park's unaccustomed silence. Maybe they want to embarrass the LENR community to such an extent that funding will never happen. That is a most ingenious way to protect military secrets, after all? Granted, it's an intriguing premise. Nevertheless, the principal reason as to why I don't buy into such a conclusion (the pay-off, if you will) is that it's kind of narcissistic if you think about it for too long. It's like the antithesis of inventor's disease. In any case, I sure HOPE you're wrong! ;-) My two cents. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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Jones Beene wrote: Executive summary:Can anyone actually verify that E-Cat has ever been run when Rossi was not physically present?If not, why not? I have no idea. However, the university is conducting a year-long series of tests. I do not know where Rossi is, but I am sure he will have to be back in the U.S. to fabricate the 1 MW reactor, so they will definitely be running the cell in his absence, if they have not done so already. For instance,thatRossicouldnothaveinventeda very efficientantennafor a directed beamof focused energyof some kind. Rememberthatthe demo took place in an industrial building which Rossi rented, not the University premises. Industrial buildings do not have basements. They are built on concrete slabs to support heavy equipment. I suppose it could be a beam directed from above. Anyway, as I said yesterday, this is ruled out by the fact that Rossi is paying the university and CERN to open the cell and analyze the Ni catalyst with mass spectroscopy. He would not do that if there were some sort of trick such as a beam outside the cell. A person engaged in a stunt, trick or fraud does not pay a university and national lab €1 million to look inside the device, because looking inside would instantly reveal the fraud. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
Hi Steven - Again let me say that most of this last post comes from playing devil's advocate; when in fact the weight of evidence is still on Rossi's side, from my personal PoV ... ...but becoming less so, every time he speaks - since there are always self-contradictions if not total BS. Therefore, we should mention all of the possibilities, even a publicity stunt by an otherwise failed inventor who has a grudge against the system. At any rate, I strongly believe that there has been an ongoing 'black' or military project since around 2000, which has been funded under the UAV umbrella, and which could be directly related to this. We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen (not deuterium) as the fuel, and that the gain is in the range of 20 times chemical, and that converted ICE engines have been used for testing. Aside from that, details are conflicting ... Of course, getting back to E-Cat, it is considerably more likely that 'they' stole some of the secrets from Rossi, instead of wanting to embarrass the LENR experimenters (using Rossi as a patsy). In short, 'they' are usually not that clever. Jones Heck, Rossi might have been recruited for this ! even planned it out from Day-one with the help of skeptics like Park Co (or more likely the Pentagon or spooks at some 3-letter org) as a sponsor, for all we really know. That would explain Park's unaccustomed silence. Maybe they want to embarrass the LENR community to such an extent that funding will never happen. That is a most ingenious way to protect military secrets, after all? Granted, it's an intriguing premise. Nevertheless, the principal reason as to why I don't buy into such a conclusion (the pay-off, if you will) is that it's kind of narcissistic if you think about it for too long. It's like the antithesis of inventor's disease. In any case, I sure HOPE you're wrong! ;-) My two cents. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
From: Jed Rothwell Anyway, as I said yesterday, this is ruled out by the fact that Rossi is paying the university and CERN to open the cell and analyze the Ni catalyst with mass spectroscopy. He would not do that if there were some sort of trick such as a beam outside the cell. WHOA. You are quoting Rossi or his associates again. Where is the official verification? There is zero confirmation that the University has received one Euro, or that CERN has been officially contacted, or that Rossi used a cent of his own money, or that he sold any company - and Levi’s credentials have been brought into question, in any event. This could all be part of the deception. “Promise them anything but keep extending the deadlines” … (for reasons beyond your control) Heck, look at what MIT, Princeton and the rest have been doing with the hot fusion program for 50 years! Promise them anything but keep extending the deadlines … It is already proved to be a successful billion dollar scam !!! Jones
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: WHOA. You are quoting Rossi or his associates again. Where is the official verification? There is zero confirmation that the University has received one Euro, or that CERN has been officially contacted . . . I don't know about CERN. Several people have been in touch with Levi. He would have said something if Rossi is going around claiming there will be a 1-year study but he hasn't actually agreed to anything. Levi’s credentials have been brought into question, in any event. WHO brought them into question? That's bullshit. Anyway, what kind of qualifications does it take to confirm a 5°C temperature difference with a liter-per-second flow? Any high school kid could do it, with absolute confidence. Evaluating dry steam is more involved, and mass spectroscopy even more so, but so far Levi has not done anything that can questioned. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
From Jones ... At any rate, I strongly believe that there has been an ongoing 'black' or military project since around 2000, which has been funded under the UAV umbrella, and which could be directly related to this. We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen (not deuterium) as the fuel, and that the gain is in the range of 20 times chemical, and that converted ICE engines have been used for testing. Aside from that, details are conflicting ... To be honest, I don't know what to make of such speculation. I certainly don't want to underestimate the depth of secret DOD projects and what kind of exotic technology might be involved. But getting back to Rossi... I don't wish to quote Dr. Storms out of context here. Nevertheless I believe Dr. Storms has speculated that much of Rossi's perceived actions appear to be designed to obfuscate the nitti-gritty particulars of the technology being invoked. An obvious reason for doing so would be to protect the vulnerability of the technology from corporate espionage, until it has been officially patented. Creating confusion is SOP in defense terms - generating decoys right and left... causing everyone to pursue the wrong target(s). Perhaps Defkalion's logo should consist of a giant octopus squirting unlimited supplies of ink everywhere, obfuscating everything and everyone in its path! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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On Friday, March 25, 2011 1:58 PM Jones Beene wrote [Snip] We know for sure that this program involves hydrogen (not deuterium) as the fuel, and that the gain is in the range of 20 times chemical, and that converted ICE engines have been used for testing. Aside from that, details are conflicting ...[/snip] Not to change the subject but IMHO said gain from an ICE in a UAV supports the premise of an ashless chemistry powered by ZPE. It may combust some of the hydrogen due to the nature of the beast but my bet is that combustion actually lowers the efficiency of the engines and that compressed plasma and naturally occurring catalyst pockets are forcing the hydrogen to catalytically disassociate and then fall back into the bound atomic state for whatever nano geometry gas pocket/ energy density that caused the disassociation and then to disassociate again as that vacuum energy density continues to change with gas and piston motion. http://www.byzipp.com/finished1.swf Regards Fran
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: An obvious reason for doing so would be to protect the vulnerability of the technology from corporate espionage, until it has been officially patented. Creating confusion is SOP in defense terms - generating decoys right and left... causing everyone to pursue the wrong target(s). If that is the strategy it is too clever by half. I do not think it will protect against anything. I do get a sense that Rossi considers himself a skilled business tactician. So far, I don't get that impression, because people skilled in business do not usually trail a cloud of confusion and contrary information. But I know practically nothing about his business so I cannot judge. On the plus side, he did start a successful company. What's more, some sources say he may get 100 million euros in royalties early on in the Defkalion deal. It would be astounding if he can pull off that deal for an untried technology! If that's true then I suppose: 1. Rossi must be a fantastic deal maker. 2. Or, the people with the money know way more about the technology than I do, and they are solid reasons to be comfortable with it. Maybe they have proved to the Greek government that it is safe! Maybe things are much farther along than I know about. 3. Or, the people with the money are stupid. I doubt that! Edison thought of himself as a skilled businessman. I think he was inept. He lost tens of millions of dollars in magnetic separation and other bad ideas back when that was real money. He was constantly grandstanding, giving out contradictory information, and claiming he had accomplished one thing or another that he was nowhere near doing (or hadn't even started). It is reminiscent of Rossi. If Edison had not been such a superlative genius, and his inventions had not earned so much money, his poor judgment in business would have wiped him out early on. That is not say that Rossi depends on his inventive genius to paper over his weaknesses! Edison did that. Many inventors did. I have no idea if Rossi does -- but anyway, that is a common pattern in history. The Wrights sure did it. They almost blew their chances to make any money, waiting until 1908 to demonstrate in public. Another aspect of Edison that is reminiscent of Rossi is that he kept doing things everyone thought was impossible. Edison was enveloped in clouds of smoke of confusion, and on one occasion in literal smoke from burning prototype bulbs, generators and curtains at his house when he tried to demonstrate incandescent lights to his investors. (Mrs. Edison called the investors into the next room for a buffet and then she and the maid beat out the flames.) When the (figurative) smoke cleared months later, there stood Edison with of the most important discoveries in the history of technology. In the end he accomplished everything he claimed he would, and far more than his detractors thought possible. Edison did that time after time, with the phonograph, the incandescent bulb, movies and other discoveries. People kept underestimating him, and he kept blowing his critics out of the water. He gave his investors nightmares while he struggled to pull off these things. Edison also failed to pull off several key discoveries, after wasting millions on them -- but he succeeded more often than he failed. I do not know what Rossi's track record is. - Jed
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Per US galloon: Gasoline = 115,000 BTU Liquid H2 = 35,000 BTU Yeah, other than being green I see no advantage to using liquid hydrogen in a combustion engine. T
Re: [Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: There was no electromagnetic pulse. Celani had two RF meters as well as two particle detectors. The former detected nothing. And what of the latter? As I reported here, both the Geiger counter and the sodium iodide detector went off the scale. He had to reset them. You can find my earlier message about that somewhere in the archive. Not sure how to use the archive . . . - Jed
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On 3/25/2011 5:17 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: Per US galloon: Gasoline = 115,000 BTU Liquid H2 = 35,000 BTU Yeah, other than being green I see no advantage to using liquid hydrogen in a combustion engine. You are wrong. For aircraft, you have to measure BTU per pound (or MJ per kg in civilized units). The aircraft shown in the photo is fat, because it is carrying a large volume of fuel, but that fuel weights much less than other liquid fuel. In the book about (conventional) hydrogen energy Tomorrow's Energy chapter 6, there is a rendering of an passenger jet designed by Airbus, and a photo of an actual TU-154 converted to hydrogen. The Airbus looks a little like a pregnant guppy, upside-down. It has a lot of fuel tanks in an extension to the fuselage above the passenger deck. You would think that would make it heavy, but the fuel is light so actually aircraft+fuel together are lighter than a conventional kerosene-fueled jet, and it has a much longer range. I am sure the Boeing unmanned aircraft uses conventional combustion technology, as they claim. 4 days is reasonable. There is no over-unity involved. Heck, they have even flown manned aircraft around the world in 9 days (The Voyager, 1986). - Jed
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Edison definately had Asperger's. So does Bill Gates as did Albert Einstein. Beethoven, Mozart . . .: http://www.asperger-syndrome.me.uk/people.htm My grandson. An 'A' student but a social misfit. T
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Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Edison definately had Asperger's. So does Bill Gates as did Albert Einstein. Beethoven, Mozart . . .: I doubt Einstein had this problem. He was a charming person. When he chose to be, he was well tuned to people's emotions, and skilled at academic politics in his early career in Berlin, when he needed to be. (Later he got all that he wanted for the asking.) He was also very much a ladies' man. Quite seductive and successful with the women, especially after he became famous. Source: Einstein in Berlin (book). Those are not characteristics of Asperger's. - Jed
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Jed sed: ... ... People kept underestimating him [Edison], and he kept blowing his critics out of the water. He gave his investors nightmares while he struggled to pull off these things. In regards to Rossi, it is a good thing you are only playing the role of honorable scholar and meticulous librarian - someone championing the cause of cold fusion. I suspect that if your circumstances had been different, and that you had agreed to financially back Rossi's E-Cat you would probably have had a heart attack by now, wondering if you were going to be filthy rich or a pauper. But then... as with most financial backers Rossi would presumably have taken you into his confidence with the signing of a bunch of NDA's, so it's a good chance your blood pressure might have remained within acceptable parameters. ;-) I bet you would have liked to have been a fly on the wall in Rossi Focardi's lab for the past few years. Wouldn't we all. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You are wrong. You don't have to be so loquacious. :-) Per pound: Gasoline: 18,000 BTU Liquid Hydrogen: 60,000 BTU But, I think you need to factor in the weight of the thermos jug. ;-) T
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Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: But, I think you need to factor in the weight of the thermos jug. ;-) And the shape of it. As I said, the Airbus concept airplane looks like pregnant guppy swimming upside down. That's gotta produce some air resistance. Putting the fuel tanks above the passengers is a little creepy until you realize that flames and hydrogen both tend to go up. I guess not liquid hydrogen. It might have been highly compressed gas . . . not sure. - Jed
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Hey, the Phantom Eye looks like a thermos bottle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97lvvSrgkiY T
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Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, the Phantom Eye looks like a thermos bottle: No doubt that is what it is. I think they said they need only 8 or 10 to cover any spot in the world. Not if a few of them get shot down they don't! U.S. defense planners are beginning to act as if we will never face a technologically sophisticated enemy again. Before WWII, they had the notion that a handful of B17D bombers based in Manila would be such a potent threat to burn down Japanese cities, it would keep the Japanese from attacking. The Japanese destroyed half of the Philippines-based U.S. air force 9 hours after Pearl Harbor, and the rest of it within a week. - Jed
[Vo]:Upcoming mass spec tests remove all doubts about Rossi's claims
I've been thinking about the fact that Rossi paid the University of Bologna €1 million to investigate his cell, and he granted them permission to open the cell and subjected to mass spectroscopy, reportedly in cooperation with CERN. First, let me predict that a mass spec result will prove indisputably that Rossi's device is producing a nuclear reaction. Based on what we know about cold fusion, and on previous results, I predict that after they run the gadget for a few months at 15 kW, when they examine the nickel catalyst, they will find macroscopic isotopic shifts. The shifts will obviate the need for an independent replication of the device. Nothing can be more indendent, more reliable, or more repeatable than detecting large isotopic shifts. You could send the samples out to a dozen labs and they will come up with the same conclusion. I realize that mass spectroscopy can be tricky when the samples are small but I am assuming that massive amounts of energy will produce large transmutations. So, assuming these tests are not canceled at the last minute, which is unlikely, I think the fact that Rossi has agreed to the tests proves he cannot be scamming anyone. He cannot be faking. I do not think he is scamming anyone in the first place. I don't see how he could be. The nature of the calorimetry precludes this. But mass spec results will prove he is 100% above board from a business perspective. Why? Because a scammer would never allow his device to be opened and tested by experts. If there was anything untoward about the machine, such as a hidden source of fuel or hidden wires, that would be obvious the moment they open the cell. Furthermore, these tests will reveal the exact nature of the nuclear reaction, or if there is no nuclear reaction they will reveal that fact. Not only is Rossi allowing an indisputable test of his device by experts, he is paying for the tests! This is so far from what a scammer would do, it simply makes no sense to postulate that he might be one. I do not buy accusations that he is being excessively secretive. He has no patent. He controls the technology that is worth hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars. I assume he has the people at U Bologna under nondisclosure agreements. That's entirely reasonable. He has every right to do that. The point is, when he allows Levi et al. to examine the inside of the device with mass spectroscopy, he proves he is willing to face facts and share vital information with qualified people. He's hiding things from potential commercial rivals, not from the entire scientific world. If he were suffering from the Inventor's Disease he would reveal this information to no one. He would take it to the grave. I wish he would expand the small circle of scientists he is sharing information with, but I cannot fault him for not publishing it and sharing it with everyone. I was already 99.99% convinced that these claims are real based on the calorimetry alone. The results are too large and too clear-cut to be fake. It can only be fake if Levi were in cahoots with Rossi. I dismiss that possibility. It is too far-fetched. Still, I will feel relief when Ahern, Cravens or someone else produces a large-scale, high power density reaction with nickel and light water. As I said, large-scale to me is anything over 10 W. (If you don't think 10 W qualifies as large scale, you can chalk that up as a measure of how desperate I am to see indisputable results, macroscopic power, and proof-of-principle that Rossi is right.) The mass spec tests will eliminate all remaining doubts about Rossi's scientific integrity. His personality remain a mystery. He is a strange, even by the standards of cold fusion. He says things that do not add up. He exaggerates, describing thousands of tests one day, and tens of thousands the next. His website lists a degree from a diploma mill, and an advisor who is either named incorrectly or may be dead or nonexistent. I believe he even served time in jail. He is sloppy with numbers and figures, which is a little surprising for an engineer. He changes his story from day to day. We can't be sure CERN will be involved because, as Akira Shirakawa diplomatically put it: Rossi says many things. He's very talkative (excluding technical details), however what he says does not always turn out to be 100% accurate. CERN might only be indirectly or very loosely involved with this matter, if even at all, if the quoted text above is to be taken very literally . . . In short, Rossi is exasperating. His eccentricities are so flamboyant they make me suspect he cannot be a confidence man. He inspires no confidence! He would make the world's worst confidence man. It is almost reassuring. In a broader sense, we should make a distinction between personal credibility and scientific credibility. Many scientists, inventors and programmers are flamboyant people who in their personal lives are untrustworthy. You would not want to get into a business
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From your description, I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi has Asperger's Syndrome. T
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-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton From your description, I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi has Asperger's Syndrome. Nikola Tesla had Asperger's, no ? Hmm... the movie to avoid, if you want to believe Rossi is more idiot savant and less Uri Geller - is The Prestige. Another Christopher Nolan gem and one the few films with Nikola in the plot. There is a poignant quote near the first, when one of the magicians is giving advice to a precocious child, who wants to know how the trick is performed: You really don't want to know. The 'secret' impresses no one. The 'trick' that you use it for is everything. That may not mean much taken out of the context of a squashed canary. But there could be a really sophisticated trick involved in the Bologna demo - much more so than anyone has thought of. At least this cannot be ruled out. The trick could be so sophisticated that it may seem of great value but it has a hidden downside. The burst of radiation, witnessed by Celani, could be a clue. The idea that it was cosmic rays is preposterous. Let's assume the worst. For instance, it could have been a directed beam from a basement below the demo - of superradiant RF frequencies that act in a novel way stimulates a reaction. The question then becomes why not then promote that trick for its own right instead of making it into a scam? And perhaps there is a good answer to that, which only Rossi knows for now. Or maybe it is part of his madness. BTW - even though this movie pays homage to Tesla, one cannot escape the conclusion that Rossi could be little more than a very clever magician ... ... or else, Tesla's creative equivalent... somehow connected at a higher level. Jones
