Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL & RPF

2015-09-12 Thread Eric Walker
In August I wrote:

What is really interesting to me about the suggested +muon/electron system,
> or a muon/positron system, is that the masses are not equal.  My intuition
> tells me that the matter/anti-matter combination should result in
> annihilation, but I'm really curious what the decay products would be.
>

Here is an answer on Quora that says that a muon and a positron cannot
annihilate via the electromagnetic interaction in the same way that an
electron and positron do:

http://www.quora.com/Can-a-muon-annihilate-with-a-positron

(They can, however, interact via a less interesting two-stage process by
way of the weak interaction.)

Eric


Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-16 Thread Axil Axil
Superconductivity give mass to photons. Superconductivity is like the Higgs
field. The higgs field gives mass to particles and superconductivity gives
mass to photons, This is why and electric field goes around a
superconductor, the photons have mass.

Dark matter must come from the superconductivity produced by Rydberg matter
formed from hydrogen atoms in space. The photons that must deal with those
superconductors get heavy and add mass to the universe.

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/47791/what-do-massive-photons-have-to-do-with-superconductivity


RE: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-15 Thread Jones Beene
Since muon beam-lines are a reality at a few research facilities, there is a 
fair likelihood that a physical connection between LENR and muons will be 
proved (or falsified) in the near term – hopefully soon. If Holmlid has enough 
prestige or favorable opinion in the eyes of his peers, then this could happen 
within months, due to the importance of his recent findings on muons.

 

Two or more potential details of interest keep cropping up - wrt to the muon 
and LENR.

 

One is the possibility of muonic hydrogen having an emission line at 3.5 keV, 
which could make it a strong candidate for so-called “dark matter” … There 
seems to be differences of opinion on the value of this line, since there is a 
scaling factor involved, and the accepted values are in the range of 2.5 keV. 
In any event, for purposes of LENR, soft x-rays in this range are easily 
absorbed and could have escaped detection in the past… thus providing a 
convenient but robust source for excess energy which has been documented.

 

 http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/9709028 http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/9709028

 

Correspondingly - there seems to be a decent chance that the DDL, the densest 
from of hydrogen, which is the lowest Rydberg level, could form with a muon as 
the negative charge carrier, instead of the “plain electron” (or in addition to 
the plain electron).

 

Actually, lest we forget - a muon is, in all likelihood, merely a plain 
electron combined with two neutrinos ! 

 

That description may not be a gross over-simplification. In fact, it could be 
helpful to imagine the two neutrinos as being the power supply of the muon, 
pushing its plain electron to near C naturally. That combination (of a plain 
electron and two neutrinos) is the basic rationale for why we can surmise that 
a long-lived version of the muon exits in certain circumstances (for the reason 
below).

 

The stable muon would need to travel at very close to light-speed to be stable, 
and time dilation is absolutely proved in this case. We know that the neutrino 
components “always” travel at C and we know that muons traveling at 99.% of 
C live 10,000 times longer than normal. Therefore, if and when the 
plain-electron of hydrogen, in a deeply redundant ground state, naturally 
attracts these two neutrinos (which could happen in favored orbitals, due to 
resonance), then we have a stable version of muonic hydrogen, which could be 
identical to the DDL.

 

The other possibility, for which there is more proof, is that the nuclear mass 
of the proton changes with a muon orbital, compared to a plain electron. The 
muon produces a stronger magnetic field inside the proton when it is orbiting, 
which changes the “chiral condensate” of pions and quarks, which changes the 
value of the proton mass. Quarks themselves have variable mass. This is 
important - to show that protons can supply large amount of energy without 
fusing into anything (other than lighter protons).

 

DDL being equivalent to muonic hydrogen… wow… that is a shocker, no?

… stable muonic hydrogen being real identity of dark matter… why not?

 

You heard it first on vortex….

 

Jones

 



Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-14 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, much better said than my relativistic warp via confinement but we are on 
the same page. IMHO even catalytic action is a weak form of this mechanism. I 
think catalysis is just the rate of change in low level dilation due to the 
tapestry of geometry in active regions. I think LENR is bootstrapped from an 
intense form of catalysis where the dilation factors reach relativistic levels 
and because they are based on an inverse square cube [Casimir or other London 
form] they trump the gravitational square law causing breaches in the isotropy 
that LENR exploits.
Regards
Fran

From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:05 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL  RPF

The muon decays when a W- appears from the vacuum. This appearance is timed by 
the probability of the decay of the muon. But if the vacuum is energized so 
that it has an excess of positive vacuum energy. then the W- will not appear on 
time, it will be delayed.Excess vacuum energy slows down time.  A excess of 
positive vacuum energy appears if a corresponding zone of negative vacuum 
energy is present.

That zone of negative vacuum energy exists inside the SPP.  Negative vacuum 
energy speeds up time a lot. This acceleration of time is why radioactive 
isotopes produced by fusion in LENR decay almost instantaneously. That is 
because the ash from a fusion event is entangled with the inside of the SPP in 
which all the energy of the fusion event is delivered.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Bob Cook 
frobertc...@hotmail.commailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jones, Eric and Axil--

I have been trying to understand the mechanism of muon decay, but am still in 
the dark.

The muon is said to be a lepton—a primary particle not made of any 
constitutents—yet it frequently decays into three particles, including 
neutrinos that are normally not observed but inferred.
The standard words  explain that muon decays by a weak force interaction, 
however an interaction with what?—it’s not said.   And what happens to a muon, 
if it is in empty space with nothing with which to interact?

It seems W+, W- and Z^0 (0 charge)  bosons, the carriers of the weak force, are 
involved, but do they appear  at random from the vacuum to disrupt a free muon, 
causing it to decay?  And why is the half life of a free muon so short?  If a 
massive boson mediates the decay, what happens to the boson?  Does it disappear 
back to the vacuum?  The bosons are said to be very short lived--10^-18 sec.

Bob Cook






.





From: Axil Axilmailto:janap...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:09 AM
To: vortex-lmailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL  RPF

There are indications that Muons are extended in there lifetimes by Rysberg 
matter. The muons are produced for hours and days after the Rydberg matter is 
exposed to light.

As referenced from the HolMlid paper as follows:

 The sources give a slowly decaying muon signal for several hours and days 
after being used for producing H(0). They can be triggered to increase the muon 
production by laser irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes even by 
turning on the fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short time.

But in the experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not open 
ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If the ability 
for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open ended, the count of 
detected muons would reach a stable condition since cosmic muons arrive at a 
relitivly constant rate. .

I believe that this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the coherent 
superconductive nature of Rydberg matter.

Furthermore, the mean energy of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about 4 GeV. 
Muons, This energy level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid in his 
experiment. This implies that the muions seen in the experiment were produced 
locally by Rydberg matter.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene 
jone...@pacbell.netmailto:jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little possibility of a 
spin problem, when it is proposed that the SPP can extend the lifetime of muons 
(as opposed to creating them from nothing).

I think that we all agree that “extending the lifetime” of a catalytic particle 
like the muon, where there is already a flux coming from the natural source – 
is functionally identical to “making” them anew. In either case, a higher 
population accumulates. Since any interaction with protons would happen within 
the geometry of the strong force, it is subject to QCD, and consequently 
giga-eV are in play, so the source of energy is no mystery. Proton mass is not 
quantized.

In the end, until Holmlid’s experiment is better explained as something other 
than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on dense hydrogen, 
he should be given benefit of the doubt. No?

This would mean

Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Also muomic atoms occur—a +muon and an electron.


This sounds like positronium -- a positron and an electron momentarily
bound together.  The positronium system is unstable, and the most likely
decay is for the two to annihilate one another, emitting annihilation
photons in opposite directions.

What is really interesting to me about the suggested +muon/electron system,
or a muon/positron system, is that the masses are not equal.  My intuition
tells me that the matter/anti-matter combination should result in
annihilation, but I'm really curious what the decay products would be.

Eric


RE: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread Jones Beene
To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little possibility of a 
spin problem, when it is proposed that the SPP can extend the lifetime of muons 
(as opposed to creating them from nothing).

I think that we all agree that “extending the lifetime” of a catalytic particle 
like the muon, where there is already a flux coming from the natural source – 
is functionally identical to “making” them anew. In either case, a higher 
population accumulates. Since any interaction with protons would happen within 
the geometry of the strong force, it is subject to QCD, and consequently 
giga-eV are in play, so the source of energy is no mystery. Proton mass is not 
quantized.

In the end, until Holmlid’s experiment is better explained as something other 
than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on dense hydrogen, 
he should be given benefit of the doubt. No?

This would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the thermal 
anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves muons 
interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be either 
created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal, following the 
reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly which does not involved 
gamma radiation.

This M.O. leaves open three possibilities for explaining the thermal anomaly – 
one which is covered by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse to deuterium, 
despite the spin problem, and lack of evidence in the ash. Another possibility 
is that SPP formation is inherently energetic – but this is unlikely since SPP 
are seen in optoelectronics with no energy gain. My suggestion is simpler and 
based on the solar model. It suggests that the catalyzed fusion reaction 
happens but is instantly reversible, due to Pauli exclusion. Excess energy 
derives from conversion of a portion of proton mass to energy via QCD during 
the brief time when the diproton exists as a helium-2 nucleus, before reverting 
to two protons and a renewed muon. 

Until there is evidence of deuterium in the ash we have an ongoing debate in 
which the physical evidence favors one argument over the other.

From: Bob Cook 

Eric--
 
Note my comment to Jones before I read your questions.
 
Bob
 
From: Eric Walker mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com  
 
Jones Beene  wrote:
D+D + muon → helium-4 + muon (instead of gamma)
… where the fist muon can be a cosmic muon which can catalyze a reaction and 
then be rejuvenated, renewed or replaced by the same fusion reaction that it 
catalyzes. 
The muon is a “heavy electron” with a short life, but now we can surmise that 
it can have its lifetime greatly extended as part of the catalysis. The 
probability for this to occur is larger than zero, but how large? … “Maybe it’s 
pretty high” says Byrnes. Can it explain the lack of gamma, as well? Probably. 
But now, as we are learning – this rebirth effect will be more robust with SPP 
and fractional hydrogen.
A muon could possibly carry away as kinetic energy the energy that would 
otherwise go to a gamma.  But if we're talking about a single muon, how do you 
propose that the spin of the missing photon is conserved?
 
Eric
 


Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread Axil Axil
There are indications that Muons are extended in there lifetimes by Rysberg
matter. The muons are produced for hours and days after the Rydberg matter
is exposed to light.

As referenced from the HolMlid paper as follows:

 The sources give a slowly decaying muon signal for several hours and days
after being used for producing H(0). They can be triggered to increase the
muon production by laser irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes even
by turning on the fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short time.

 But in the experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not
open ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If
the ability for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open
ended, the count of detected muons would reach a stable condition since
cosmic muons arrive at a relitivly constant rate. .

I believe that this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the
coherent superconductive nature of Rydberg matter.

Furthermore, the mean energy of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about 4
GeV. Muons, This energy level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid in
his experiment. This implies that the muions seen in the experiment were
produced locally by Rydberg matter.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little possibility of
 a spin problem, when it is proposed that the SPP can extend the lifetime
 of muons (as opposed to creating them from nothing).

 I think that we all agree that “extending the lifetime” of a catalytic 
 particle
 like the muon, where there is already a flux coming from the natural
 source – is functionally identical to “making” them anew. In either case,
 a higher population accumulates. Since any interaction with protons would 
 happen
 within the geometry of the strong force, it is subject to QCD, and
 consequently giga-eV are in play, so the source of energy is no mystery.
 Proton mass is not quantized.

 In the end, until Holmlid’s experiment is better explained as something
 other than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on dense
 hydrogen, he should be given benefit of the doubt. No?

 This would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the
 thermal anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves muons
 interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be
 either created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal, following
 the reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly which does not
 involved gamma radiation.

 This M.O. leaves open three possibilities for explaining the thermal
 anomaly – one which is covered by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse
 to deuterium, despite the spin problem, and lack of evidence in the ash. 
 Another
 possibility is that SPP formation is inherently energetic – but this is
 unlikely since SPP are seen in optoelectronics with no energy gain. My
 suggestion is simpler and based on the solar model. It suggests that the
 catalyzed fusion reaction happens but is instantly reversible, due to
 Pauli exclusion. Excess energy derives from conversion of a portion of
 proton mass to energy via QCD during the brief time when the diproton
 exists as a helium-2 nucleus, before reverting to two protons and a
 renewed muon.

 Until there is evidence of deuterium in the ash we have an ongoing debate
 in which the physical evidence favors one argument over the other.

 *From:* Bob Cook

 Eric--



 Note my comment to Jones before I read your questions.



 Bob



 *From:* *Eric Walker* eric.wal...@gmail.com



 Jones Beene  wrote:

 D+D + muon → helium-4 + muon (instead of gamma)

 … where the fist muon can be a cosmic muon which can catalyze a reaction
 and then be rejuvenated, renewed or replaced by the same fusion reaction
 that it catalyzes.

 The muon is a “heavy electron” with a short life, but now we can surmise
 that it can have its lifetime greatly extended as part of the catalysis.
 The probability for this to occur is larger than zero, but how large? …
 “Maybe it’s pretty high” says Byrnes. Can it explain the lack of gamma, as
 well? Probably. But now, as we are learning – this rebirth effect will be
 more robust with SPP and fractional hydrogen.

 A muon could possibly carry away as kinetic energy the energy that would
 otherwise go to a gamma.  But if we're talking about a single muon, how do
 you propose that the spin of the missing photon is conserved?



 Eric





RE: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: torulf.gr...@bredband.net 

 

Ø  …the muons come from LENR in the substrate, initiated by the Rydberg mater…

 

This brings up the subject of “muonic hydrogen”. Since the muon is like a heavy 
electron, it can orbit the proton like an electron. This is fairly well 
studied. What is needed for LENR, in addition, is a way to significantly 
increase the lifetime of such an arrangement. In the literature, there is no 
mention of a decrease in the decay rate of muons - due to orbital capture by a 
proton. 

 

However, the muon is about 200 times heavier than the electron, and muonic 
hydrogen is the same 200 times smaller in diameter than ordinary hydrogen. In a 
magnetic field - where the muonic hydrogen is polarized - assuming 
“inverse-square” applies (and why wouldn’t it?) this situation would seem to 
create a magnetic near-field which is 40,000 times greater than the normal 12.5 
T field. 

 

Thus … with a nickel substrate, notably ferromagnetic, or with Holmlid’s iron 
oxide, also ferromagnetic - perhaps there is a previously unknown phenomenon 
which is occurring to alter the decay rate of muonic hydrogen and do it via 
magnetism ?

 

SPP also have a large effective magnetic field. We could be talking megatesla 
(1,000,000 Tesla field strength) in combination. Of course, near fields are 
always much stronger, but this is the magnetic field equivalent of a neutron 
star.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread torulf.greek


May the muons come from LENR in the substrate, initiated by the
Rydberg mater, 

not from the Rydberg mater it selves. Its may be a kind
of HAD. 

On source for muons may be pion-decay. Pion-exchange is a part
in nuclear reactions and 

have been suggested by Takahashi. (side 574)


_http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BiberianJPjcondensedl.pdf_ 

But the
Pions in nuclear reactions are virtual particles. I know if a virtual
particle can be real. 

On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 14:09:56 -0400, Axil Axil 
wrote:  
There are indications that Muons are extended in there
lifetimes by Rysberg matter. The muons are produced for hours and days
after the Rydberg matter is exposed to light. 

As referenced from the
HolMlid paper as follows: 

 The sources give a slowly decaying muon
signal for several hours and days after being used for producing H(0).
They can be triggered to increase the muon production by laser
irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes even by turning on the
fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short time. 

 But in the
experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not open
ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If the
ability for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open
ended, the count of detected muons would reach a stable condition since
cosmic muons arrive at a relitivly constant rate. . 

I believe that
this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the coherent
superconductive nature of Rydberg matter. 

Furthermore, the mean energy
of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about 4 GeV. Muons, This energy
level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid in his experiment. This
implies that the muions seen in the experiment were produced locally by
Rydberg matter.  

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene 
wrote:

 To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little
possibility of a spin problem, when it is  proposed  that the SPP can
extend the lifetime of muon s  (as opposed to creating them from
nothing) . 

I think that we all agree that  extending the lifetime of
a catalytic particle like the muon, where there is already a flux coming
from the natural source - is functionally identical to making them
anew. In either case, a higher population accumulates. Since any
interaction with protons would happen within the geometry of the strong
force, it is subject to QCD, and consequently giga-eV are in play, so
the source of energy is no mystery. Proton mass is not quantized. 

In
the end, until Holmlid's experiment is better explained as something
other than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on
dense hydrogen, he should be given benefit of the doubt. No? 

This
would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the thermal
anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves muons
interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be
either created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal,
following the reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly
which does not involved gamma radiation. 

This M.O. leaves open three
possibilities for explaining the thermal anomaly - one which is covered
by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse to deuterium, despite the spin
problem, and lack of evidence in the ash. Another possibility is that
SPP formation is inherently energetic - but this is unlikely since SPP
are seen in optoelectronics with no energy gain. My suggestion is
simpler and based on the solar model. It suggests that the catalyzed
fusion reaction happens but is instantly reversible, due to Pauli
exclusion. Excess energy derives from conversion of a portion of proton
mass to energy via QCD during the brief time when the diproton exists as
a helium-2 nucleus, before reverting to two protons and a renewed muon. 


Until there is evidence of deuterium in the ash we have an ongoing
debate in which the physical evidence favors one argument over the
other. 

FROM: Bob Cook   

Eric-- 

Note my comment to Jones before I
read your questions. 

Bob 

FROM: Eric Walker [2]   

Jones Beene
wrote: 

 D+D + muon → helium-4 + muon (instead of gamma) 

… where the
fist muon can be a cosmic muon which can catalyze a reaction and then be
rejuvenated, renewed or replaced by the same fusion reaction that it
catalyzes.  

The muon is a heavy electron with a short life, but now
we can surmise that it can have its lifetime greatly extended as part of
the catalysis. The probability for this to occur is larger than zero,
but how large? … Maybe it's pretty high says Byrnes. Can it explain
the lack of gamma, as well? Probably. But now, as we are learning - this
rebirth effect will be more robust with SPP and fractional hydrogen. 

A
muon could possibly carry away as kinetic energy the energy that would
otherwise go to a gamma. But if we're talking about a single muon, how
do you propose that the spin of the missing photon is conserved? 

Eric


 

Links:
--
[1] 

Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread Axil Axil
The muon decays when a W- appears from the vacuum. This appearance is timed
by the probability of the decay of the muon. But if the vacuum is energized
so that it has an excess of positive vacuum energy. then the W- will not
appear on time, it will be delayed.Excess vacuum energy slows down time.  A
excess of positive vacuum energy appears if a corresponding zone of
negative vacuum energy is present.

That zone of negative vacuum energy exists inside the SPP.  Negative vacuum
energy speeds up time a lot. This acceleration of time is why radioactive
isotopes produced by fusion in LENR decay almost instantaneously. That is
because the ash from a fusion event is entangled with the inside of the SPP
in which all the energy of the fusion event is delivered.

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Jones, Eric and Axil--

 I have been trying to understand the mechanism of muon decay, but am still
 in the dark.

 The muon is said to be a lepton—a primary particle not made of any
 constitutents—yet it frequently decays into three particles, including
 neutrinos that are normally not observed but inferred.
 The standard words  explain that muon decays by a weak force interaction,
 however an interaction with what?—it’s not said.   And what happens to a
 muon, if it is in empty space with nothing with which to interact?

 It seems W+, W- and Z^0 (0 charge)  bosons, the carriers of the weak
 force, are involved, but do they appear  at random from the vacuum to
 disrupt a free muon, causing it to decay?  And why is the half life of a
 free muon so short?  If a massive boson mediates the decay, what happens to
 the boson?  Does it disappear back to the vacuum?  The bosons are said to
 be very short lived--10^-18 sec.

 Bob Cook






 .





 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:09 AM
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL  RPF

 There are indications that Muons are extended in there lifetimes by
 Rysberg matter. The muons are produced for hours and days after the Rydberg
 matter is exposed to light.

 As referenced from the HolMlid paper as follows:

  The sources give a slowly decaying muon signal for several hours and
 days after being used for producing H(0). They can be triggered to increase
 the muon production by laser irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes
 even by turning on the fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short
 time.

 But in the experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not
 open ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If
 the ability for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open
 ended, the count of detected muons would reach a stable condition since
 cosmic muons arrive at a relitivly constant rate. .

 I believe that this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the
 coherent superconductive nature of Rydberg matter.

 Furthermore, the mean energy of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about 4
 GeV. Muons, This energy level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid in
 his experiment. This implies that the muions seen in the experiment were
 produced locally by Rydberg matter.

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little possibility of
 a spin problem, when it is proposed that the SPP can extend the lifetime
 of muons (as opposed to creating them from nothing).

 I think that we all agree that “extending the lifetime” of a catalytic 
 particle
 like the muon, where there is already a flux coming from the natural
 source – is functionally identical to “making” them anew. In either
 case, a higher population accumulates. Since any interaction with protons
 would happen within the geometry of the strong force, it is subject to
 QCD, and consequently giga-eV are in play, so the source of energy is no
 mystery. Proton mass is not quantized.

 In the end, until Holmlid’s experiment is better explained as something
 other than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on dense
 hydrogen, he should be given benefit of the doubt. No?

 This would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the
 thermal anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves 
 muons
 interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be
 either created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal, following
 the reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly which does
 not involved gamma radiation.

 This M.O. leaves open three possibilities for explaining the thermal
 anomaly – one which is covered by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse
 to deuterium, despite the spin problem, and lack of evidence in the ash. 
 Another
 possibility is that SPP formation is inherently energetic – but this is
 unlikely since SPP are seen in optoelectronics with no energy gain. My
 suggestion is simpler

Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL RPF

2015-08-13 Thread Axil Axil
See this reference about vacuum energy

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/negativeenergy/negativeenergy.htm

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 The muon decays when a W- appears from the vacuum. This appearance is
 timed by the probability of the decay of the muon. But if the vacuum is
 energized so that it has an excess of positive vacuum energy. then the W-
 will not appear on time, it will be delayed.Excess vacuum energy slows down
 time.  A excess of positive vacuum energy appears if a corresponding zone
 of negative vacuum energy is present.

 That zone of negative vacuum energy exists inside the SPP.  Negative
 vacuum energy speeds up time a lot. This acceleration of time is why
 radioactive isotopes produced by fusion in LENR decay almost
 instantaneously. That is because the ash from a fusion event is entangled
 with the inside of the SPP in which all the energy of the fusion event is
 delivered.

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Jones, Eric and Axil--

 I have been trying to understand the mechanism of muon decay, but am
 still in the dark.

 The muon is said to be a lepton—a primary particle not made of any
 constitutents—yet it frequently decays into three particles, including
 neutrinos that are normally not observed but inferred.
 The standard words  explain that muon decays by a weak force interaction,
 however an interaction with what?—it’s not said.   And what happens to a
 muon, if it is in empty space with nothing with which to interact?

 It seems W+, W- and Z^0 (0 charge)  bosons, the carriers of the weak
 force, are involved, but do they appear  at random from the vacuum to
 disrupt a free muon, causing it to decay?  And why is the half life of a
 free muon so short?  If a massive boson mediates the decay, what happens to
 the boson?  Does it disappear back to the vacuum?  The bosons are said to
 be very short lived--10^-18 sec.

 Bob Cook






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 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:09 AM
 *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Re: Muons, SPP, DDL  RPF

 There are indications that Muons are extended in there lifetimes by
 Rysberg matter. The muons are produced for hours and days after the Rydberg
 matter is exposed to light.

 As referenced from the HolMlid paper as follows:

  The sources give a slowly decaying muon signal for several hours and
 days after being used for producing H(0). They can be triggered to increase
 the muon production by laser irradiation inside the chambers or sometimes
 even by turning on the fluorescent lamps in the laboratory for a short
 time.

 But in the experiment, the ability to extend the lifetime of muons is not
 open ended in time. There is a reduction of muon detection over time. If
 the ability for Rydberg matter to extend the lifetime of muons was open
 ended, the count of detected muons would reach a stable condition since
 cosmic muons arrive at a relitivly constant rate. .

 I believe that this ability to extend Muon lifetimes is rooted in the
 coherent superconductive nature of Rydberg matter.

 Furthermore, the mean energy of cosmic muons reaching sea level is about
 4 GeV. Muons, This energy level is higher than the levels seen by Holmlid
 in his experiment. This implies that the muions seen in the experiment were
 produced locally by Rydberg matter.

 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

 To paraphrase what Bob has said and cited, there is little possibility
 of a spin problem, when it is proposed that the SPP can extend the
 lifetime of muons (as opposed to creating them from nothing).

 I think that we all agree that “extending the lifetime” of a catalytic 
 particle
 like the muon, where there is already a flux coming from the natural
 source – is functionally identical to “making” them anew. In either
 case, a higher population accumulates. Since any interaction with
 protons would happen within the geometry of the strong force, it is
 subject to QCD, and consequently giga-eV are in play, so the source of
 energy is no mystery. Proton mass is not quantized.

 In the end, until Holmlid’s experiment is better explained as something
 other than detection of muons in a situation where SPP are acting on dense
 hydrogen, he should be given benefit of the doubt. No?

 This would mean that a valid, if not intuitive, explanation for the
 thermal anomaly in the glow-type reactor (incandescent reactor) involves 
 muons
 interacting catalytically with protons, where the muons appear to be
 either created from the reaction, or else do not decay as normal, following
 the reaction. This scenario will include a thermal anomaly which does
 not involved gamma radiation.

 This M.O. leaves open three possibilities for explaining the thermal
 anomaly – one which is covered by Storms. He suggests that protons fuse
 to deuterium, despite the spin problem, and lack