Re: 6100 Battery

2003-04-22 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 07:10 PM, Phillip McGree wrote:

 Pretty much all desktop Macs made over the last few years use:

 1/2 AA, 3.6 volt battery

 That's the description to give to the battery shop.

 A good place to go is Batteries Plus in Hutton St, Osbourne Park. 
 Just next to the freeway. The battery will cost you around $12-13, 
 and it's always worth keeping a spare one if you've got more than one 
 Mac.



I think you'll find that the 6100 uses the boxy Reovac-type battery, 
rather than the half-AA type. I have never found a reliable supplier of 
these other than an AppleCentre. All other substitutes have failed 
miserably.


-- 
Peter Hinchliffe
Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, 
Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.



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application switcher OSX

2003-04-22 Thread Greg Hosking

Hi All

wondering if anybody knows a way to change the 'command-tab' key 
command for switching between applications? This is also the command 
for changing tools in quarkXpress, illustrator etc, major conflict! 
Checked Help, wamug archives, apple support to no avail


cheers
Greg



Heart Attack

2003-04-22 Thread Ken Jackson
Subject: HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK - ALONE

(I was prompted to send this because my father was taken to hospital Thursday 
morning with this very problem, altho he wasn't alone.) 

 

I can’t confirm the accuracy of this advice but it’s better than none at all, 
and whilst we’re on the subject - would you remember what to do ifsomeone near 
you is having a heart attack? Regards from Ken 

 

HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK ALONE

Let's say it's 6:15 P.M. and you're driving home (alone of course), after an 
unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated. 
Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to 
radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five miles 
from the hospital nearest your home; unfortunately you don't know if you'll be 
able to make it that far. What can you do? You've been trained in CPR but the 
guy that taught the course neglected to tell you how to perform it on yourself. 
Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack,this article seemed 
to be in order. Without help, the person whose heart stops beating properly and 
who begins to feel faint, has only about 10 seconds left before losing 
consciousness. However, these victims can help themselves by coughing 
repeatedly and very vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each 
cough. The cough must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep 
inside the chest. And a cough must be repeated about every 2 seconds without 
let up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally 
again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze 
the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing pressure on the heart 
also helps it regain normal rhythm. If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 
people, you can bet that we'll save at least one life.  

Tell as many other people as possible about this, it could save their lives! 



From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240s newsletter AND 
THE BEAT GOES ON

(reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc. publication, Heart Response) BE A FRIEND 
AND PLEASE SEND THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE



   
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Wanted: SCSI Drive (40pin) for Performa 580CD

2003-04-22 Thread Paul Tetley

Hi,

I'm trying to resuscitate a Performa580CD for my nephew.

The machine will only boot if I unplug the hard drive (otherwise it 
gives a system error #97 - meaning it can't initialise the SCSI 
controller).


I have an old 1GB SCSI drive so thought I was all set - but it has a 
50pin connector on the back, and all my 'junk' LC's are IDE...


Does anyone have an old SCSI drive, 40pin, (around 800MB) for sale or 
swap?


Regards,
Paul Tetley
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Broadband options

2003-04-22 Thread Phillip McGree
Hiya all,


For those that are still wondering about ADSL options, Broadband Choice have 
updated and developed their web site further:

http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au

Regards,
Phil
(if that bores you too much then check out the comedy and joke site that I 
wrote over the weekend - http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au )



.
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Re: Frequent disconnects/adsl won't work/mtu

2003-04-22 Thread Michael Hawkins
Iinet has been the pits lately. ADSL connection appears to have occurred,
but nothing uploads or down loads. Iinet say that a temporary cure is to
reduce the packet size (maximum transmittable units) and Apple has a
Knowledge Base article and script the length of which deters me from trying
it as it involves going into Terminal.

From my experience temporary may be long term, as I've been having the
problem for over 5 weeks. I either quit attempting to use adsl and use dial
up instead, or keep connecting and disconnecting until I get a connection
that works. The fact that if I persevere I get a connection that works makes
me wonder if iinet has too high a user to modem ratio for adsl subscribers
(or whatever the device is at iinet's end to handle adsl connections).

Michael
(OS 10.2.5, Entourage 10.1.1, Explorer 5.2.2)



DiskWarrior 3

2003-04-22 Thread Keith Palmer, Zytech
Stock is still a week or more away but we're happy to extend an 
introductory offer of $150 including delivery to WAMUG members only.


If you'd like to go on the list just reply by email - thanks.

Keith Palmer
Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd
PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231
Phone: 08 9791 5556 Fax: 08 9791 5900
the online data storage  technology store -
http://www.zytech.com.au/



Final Cut Pro users

2003-04-22 Thread matt falvey
Hi I am having what appear to be a few problems with FCP 3. Having moved up 
from iMovie I am finding the going tough. I have the user manuals and some 
tutorial disc/ books but just don't seem to be able to master it. 

I was wondering if there is any one in the group that uses FCP regularly, who 
would let me sit with them for a couple of hours to let me see the application 
being used, to enable me to get some idea of how it actually is supposed to 
work properly?

Thanks.

Matt Falvey
Noranda




Re: Wanted: SCSI Drive (40pin) for Performa 580CD

2003-04-22 Thread Murdoch Allen
on 22/4/03 11:10 AM, Paul Tetley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to resuscitate a Performa580CD for my nephew.
 
 The machine will only boot if I unplug the hard drive (otherwise it
 gives a system error #97 - meaning it can't initialise the SCSI
 controller).
 
 I have an old 1GB SCSI drive so thought I was all set - but it has a
 50pin connector on the back, and all my 'junk' LC's are IDE...
 
 Does anyone have an old SCSI drive, 40pin, (around 800MB) for sale or
 swap?
 
 Regards,
 Paul Tetley
 --
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 Software Development, Web Sites, Technical Support
 
 
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580 uses a IDE hard drive not SCSI
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Re: 6100 Battery

2003-04-22 Thread Murdoch Allen
on 22/4/03 8:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 07:10 PM, Phillip McGree wrote:
 
 Pretty much all desktop Macs made over the last few years use:
 
 1/2 AA, 3.6 volt battery
 
 That's the description to give to the battery shop.
 
 A good place to go is Batteries Plus in Hutton St, Osbourne Park.
 Just next to the freeway. The battery will cost you around $12-13,
 and it's always worth keeping a spare one if you've got more than one
 Mac.
 
 
 
 I think you'll find that the 6100 uses the boxy Reovac-type battery,
 rather than the half-AA type. I have never found a reliable supplier of
 these other than an AppleCentre. All other substitutes have failed
 miserably.
 
6100 uses a TADIRAN 3.6 volt about 1/4 the size of a aa
-- 
If you can smile when things go wrong
You obviously have someone in mind to blame



Re: Heart Attack

2003-04-22 Thread larasgroups
 Subject: HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK - ALONE
 
 (I was prompted to send this because my father was taken to hospital
 Thursday morning with this very problem, altho he wasn't alone.)

I'm sorry that happened to your father, and I hope he's getting better.
 
 I can't confirm the accuracy of this advice but it's better than none at
 all, and whilst we're on the subject - would you remember what to do if
 someone near you is having a heart attack?

[cough CPR while DRIVING chain email]
This is utterly, entirely, completely the wrong thing to do if you think
you're having a heart attack, and a great way to take a bunch of other
motorists with you when you go. It is dangerous advice and it is not
endorsed by the Red Cross or American Heart Association, or any Heart
Foundation that I know of. Cough CPR is of extremely limited
usefulness and is only ever appropriate in a monitored ED or ICU setting
with a physician present. See my FAQ entry at:

http://www.tafkac.org/faq2k/medicine_2042.html


Lara


RE: Heart Attack

2003-04-22 Thread Katinka Mills


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2003 10:23 AM
 To: wamug@wamug.org.au
 Subject: Heart Attack


 Subject: HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK - ALONE

 (I was prompted to send this because my father was taken to
 hospital Thursday morning with this very problem, altho he wasn't alone.)



 I can’t confirm the accuracy of this advice but it’s better than
 none at all, and whilst we’re on the subject - would you remember
 what to do if someone near you is having a heart attack?
 Regards from Ken


Sigh another Chain Email.

This wouldn't change the course of a myocardial infarction, I don't
believe, but a vigorous cough or thump on your own chest (I know of a doctor
who did the latter, successfully) could reverse a fatal arrhythmia
(ventricular fibrillation) associated with the heart attack.

If you suffered an electric shock, and were not knocked unconscious, yes
this will work. But most people when in this situation, will panic and not
think to cough (besides the smell of burning flesh / skin makes you want to
hold your breath)

We were taught this trick when we used to work on high voltage high power
equipment, but the number of techs who successfully used it were low, due to
being knocked unconscious (usually associated with the sudden stop from
flight by a brick wall ;o)

Regards,

Kat.
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On the longevity of SOHO switches

2003-04-22 Thread Robert Loss
Greetings all, I just wondered if anyone with some longish term 
experience with SOHO networks could comment on the pros and cons of 
cheap SOHO switches. About 4 years I set up my home network using a 
brand name 4-port switch, and an 8-port budget switch. The budget 
switch lasted about 15 months, and its replacement (another budget 
model) has just died. The 4-port is still going fine. Am I just 
unlucky, or are these budget priced switches really only designed 
to last until they are just out of warranty?

Cheers
--
Robert Loss
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: On the longevity of SOHO switches

2003-04-22 Thread Katinka Mills


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Loss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2003 2:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: On the longevity of SOHO switches


 Greetings all, I just wondered if anyone with some longish term
 experience with SOHO networks could comment on the pros and cons of
 cheap SOHO switches. About 4 years I set up my home network using a
 brand name 4-port switch, and an 8-port budget switch. The budget
 switch lasted about 15 months, and its replacement (another budget
 model) has just died. The 4-port is still going fine. Am I just
 unlucky, or are these budget priced switches really only designed
 to last until they are just out of warranty?
 Cheers


Depends on the brand.

For cheap non critical stuff (like student networks at schools) I use D-Link
Switches as they are cheap and do a great job. For Core equipment (like the
admin network and one PC in the class room for the teacher to do their
reports and roll on) I use either 3 com or Cisco. I prefer 3 com for easy of
programming (and the fact I can whip my connection when I am done and not
need to save the data to a special part of ram which I forget occasionally
on Cisco and the next power outage they need to be reprogrammed.

Here at home I have 2 Kingmax switches, one seems to have lost a port in a
recent lightening strike but other than that they perform well, they are
only 9 months old, but time will tell (and I am still to loose a port on any
3 com or Cisco at the local school (must be my great cabling ;o))

Regards,

Kat.

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Re: Heart Attack

2003-04-22 Thread Daniel Forsdyke
Ken posted:

 HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK ALONE
 
 Let's say it's 6:15 P.M. and you're driving home (alone of course), after an
 unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated.
 Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to
 radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five miles
 from the hospital nearest your home; unfortunately you don't know if you'll be
 able to make it that far. What can you do? You've been trained in CPR but the
 guy that taught the course neglected to tell you how to perform it on
 yourself. Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, this
 article seemed to be in order. Without help, the person whose heart stops
 beating properly and who begins to feel faint, has only about 10 seconds left
 before losing consciousness. However, these victims can help themselves by
 coughing repeatedly and very vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before
 each cough. The cough must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum
 from deep inside the chest. And a cough must be repeated about every 2 seconds
 without let up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating
 normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements
 squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing pressure on
 the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. If everyone who gets this sends
 it to 10 people, you can bet that we'll save at least one life.
 
 Tell as many other people as possible about this, it could save their lives!
 
 
 
 From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240s newsletter AND
 THE BEAT GOES ON
 
 (reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc. publication, Heart Response) BE A FRIEND
 AND PLEASE SEND THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE
 
In reply:

Sorry about the off topic nature, but I would rather people were not fooled
by these types of emails. Firstly Heart Attack is the common name for
Myocardial Infarction, this is where a blood clot in the coronary blood
vessels cuts the oxygen supply to part of the heart muscle, causing the
death/damage of that part of the muscle. The usual symptoms are chest pain,
shortness of breath and moist/clammy skin. The heart does not usually stop
unless there is massive damage to the heart muscle. The best treatment is
give oxygen, loosen tight clothing, take 300mg of aspirin (1tab) and prompt
transport to hospital.

CPR is usually performed in the event of Sudden Cardiac Arrest this is
most commonly caused by the heart going into Ventricular Tachycardia or
Ventricular Fibrillation or one of several other cardiac arrhythmias. If
the person is pulseless and unresponsive then CPR and Defibrillation (an
electric shock) are the main treatments. If the person has one of these
fatal arrhythmias but is still conscious, then drug treatments and/or
cardioversion (elective defibrillation) can be used to reset the hearts
pacemaker.

In neither of these circumstances is Cough CPR going to be any use.

Just remember if you have ten seconds warning call an ambulance on 000, or
112 from most mobile phones!!

Now that I have said that we don't need any more OT comments about it!

Regards
Daniel
-- 
Daniel Forsdyke, RN (B.Sc.)
Registered Nurse
Emergency Department
Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital



Re: On the longevity of SOHO switches

2003-04-22 Thread Shay Telfer

Greetings all, I just wondered if anyone with some longish term
experience with SOHO networks could comment on the pros and cons of
cheap SOHO switches. About 4 years I set up my home network using a
brand name 4-port switch, and an 8-port budget switch. The budget
switch lasted about 15 months, and its replacement (another budget
model) has just died. The 4-port is still going fine. Am I just
unlucky, or are these budget priced switches really only designed
to last until they are just out of warranty?
Cheers


Without mentioning which brand name you're talking about, it's hard 
to say. And do you mean hub, or switch?


My 8 port NetGear (now Bay, I believe) 10MBit hub has served me quite 
happily for the past 4 or so years. It's got a nice metal box, rather 
than a plastic one, so it even feels sturdy.


Have fun,
Shay
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[4Sale] Beige G3, BW G3 and Various Items.

2003-04-22 Thread Daniel

Hi All

I have the following for sale:-

Beige G3 Desktop
300MHz (the good ones)
128MB RAM (Can increase to more if so desired) - SEE BELOW
6GB Hard Drive
Internal Zip Drive
CD-ROM Drive - SEE BELOW
Keyboard and Mouse
Samsung 15 Digital Monitor

Asking price $750 and I will throw in the following:-
An additional 32MB of RAM taking it to a total of 160MB of RAM
**NEW** Installed PCI USB Card with 2 USB Ports worth $65
***NEW*** Internal Sony 24x10x32 CDRW Burner worth $150


Blue and White G3 Tower
350MHz (the good ones)
256MB RAM (Can increase to more if so desired) - SEE BELOW
12GB Hard Drive
Internal 100MB Zip Drive
CD-ROM Drive - (Can upgrade to a New Sony CDRW Burner if desired)
USB, Firewire, ADB, Keyboard and Mouse
Samsung 15 Digital Monitor

Asking price $800 and I will throw in the following:-
An additional 64MB of RAM taking it to a total of 320MB of RAM




SaroTech USB/Firewire External Case
Uses the Oxford 911 Chipset. Has 2 Firewire and 1 USB connection.
Comes with cables, software and original box.
You pay up to $229 for a new one!
*** $120 ***



More stuff,...
Logitech USB Optical Mouse (White) 3 button w/Scroll Wheel. ** $40 ** (NEW)
IDE 100MB Internal Zip Drive - *** $40 ***
100MHz Processor Card from a 7200 - ** FREE!!! **
180MHz Processor Card - *** Offers ***
80MB of RAM for 7300 (Made up of 4x8MBs and 2x16MBs) - ** Offers **



Email or call if you are interested or want more info!!

Thanks!!

Kind Regards
Daniel Kerr
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Macintosh**


Re: Frequent disconnects

2003-04-22 Thread Greg Pennefather
James and WAMUGgians in general

Just so you know ... Most, if not all, ISPs, including iiNet, no longer use
discrete modems for dial up. They use network access servers (NAS) that
connect to ISDN primary rate services (30 channels) and use digital modem
cards that are basically digital signal processors acting as modems. Chime
(iiNet's port provider) uses Cisco 5300 and 5400 NAS as far as I am aware.
So the concept of dialling through a bank of discrete modems from different
manufacturers is no longer valid - the modems are pretty well homogeneous,
the only difference being the version of software loaded into the DSP by the
IOS (Cisco parlance for internetworking operation system).

Perhaps it is a bug or incompatibility in the version of IOS being used on
one or several NAS but not differences between say a Banksia and Hayes modem
on the end of a standard telephone line.

I know this doesn't help the problem but may be of interest generally.

Cheers

Greg


on 21/4/03 12:22 AM, James Kunz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have the same
 sometimes i have to redial 6 times to get a connection with iinet, it
 looks like that iinet is using some incompatible modems  everytime you
 try to logon you get a diferent modem untill you hit one that is
 compatible.i did everything that iinet support suggests about 4
 times w/o success.
 another thing is iinet logs calls only if you are past the
 authentication..so all calls which disconnect on starting ppp are
 not registered by iinet (sadly)...
 on top of all lately we had lots of lightning during the last few weeks
 so it could be that the modem did not take it well (a week ago i fixed a
 imac modem module which had some burned parts near to the phone socket)
 James
 
 
 Daniel wrote:
 
 Hi Folks!
 
 I operate imacs at my office and home.
 
 Each is a tray model 333 MHz G3 and has 288 MB of RAM.
 
 Each operates with system 9.2.2
 
 I use a dial up explorer account with iinet from either location.
 
 Lately, I have been suffering frequent disconnects, sometimes after
 only 50 seconds connection. Disconnects occur either while
 downloading emails or while changing sites on the internet (using
 either Netscape or IE)
 
 If the disconnect occurs during the downloading of emails, the
 message sometimes is:
 
 TCP/IP Error -3155 The connection closed unexpectedly {37:590}
 
 at other times while downloading emails the message reads:
 
 Error involving Domain Name System -3162
 
 I am working with the techs at iinet and they suggest that I get a
 copy of FreePPP or MacPPP so that they can get me to add a string
 to make the connection more robust.
 
 Coulsd someone please comment on the efficacy of this.
 
 
 Regards
 
 Ray Hirst
 
 
 



(4 sale) Router + others

2003-04-22 Thread Roger P Kortas
Hi All

I have a SMC Router for sale 3 months old it includes built in:
4 port 10/100 switch
Modem port V90 modem recommended
WAN port for ADSL modem
Print Server
Firewall

$225.00
--
Belkin

USB VideoBus for Mac OS9

$95.00
---
Lexmark Z32 printer

$35.00
--

Logitech

USB Quickcam Pro

25.00
--
Call or email me if you are interested

Regards

Roger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Home 08 9303
mobile: 0413 307 995

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New iBooks and Happy Birthday Web Browser

2003-04-22 Thread Daniel

Hi All

For those interested the iBooks have been updated.
Pricing and specs as follows:-

12.1 Screen - CD-ROM
** New Low $1999 **
800 MHz
128MB RAM / 30GB Hard Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB DDR video memory

12.1 Screen - Combo Drive
** New Low $2599 **
900 MHz
128MB RAM / 40GB Hard Druve
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB DDR video memory

14.1 Screen - Combo Drive
** New Low $2999 **
900 MHz PowerPC G3
128MB RAM / 40GB Hard Drive
ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 with 32MB DDR video memory

So basically the MHz has increased 100MHz and the price has dropped 
$200. Well priced laptops still!!




And also on an internet note today (22nd April 1993) is the 10 year 
anniversary of the web browser. Started with a little pet project 
called Mosaic apparently.

http://www.macminute.com/ Well there you go!


So have fun!!

Kind Regards
Daniel Kerr
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au


**For everything Macintosh**


Bits to sell

2003-04-22 Thread Brad Helden

* 64MB RAM suits G4 400mhz AGP - $ whatever you can manage

* SHARP AJ 1800 printer , one year old. A very good PC printer but 
also works with Macs up to OS 9.2.2. Excellent condition and still 
with original packing and CD $120


* Firewire external CD (DVD?) case (still has Que Fire CD burner in 
it that doesn't work) $100 or best offer


Contact me by phone on 9330-4139 (preferred) or by e-mail

Brad
--
Brad Helden
Graphic Designer  Typesetter
Japanese Culture Consultant

Perth, Western Australia

Website:
http://www.japan-australia-media.com

Hardware: G4 400mhz 1GB RAM, 10GB  30GB HD,AGP graphics; Viewmaster 
17 monitor; QUE Fire CDR; 100MB USB Zip drive; Canon Flatbed scanner