Re: Inkjet cheap ink

[thefrogs]

I used to refill but then I noticed the difference in colours -washed out 
against real Epsom and real Canon now I buy the original brand. I sweem to 
remember there was a fair amount of traffic on this a few years ago.
tomsamson
On 07/03/2010, at 6:55 PM, John Feltham wrote:

> G'day john,
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 7:06 PM, John Daniels wrote:
> 
> 
> > Thanks for your input folks. it seems that it's 2 to 1 against refills so 
> > far. Anyone else like to weigh in?
> 
> 
> It's not so long ago that I weighed in with...
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Re: X11 in 10.6.2

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Peter,

Have you checked Console for messages when you Launch X11?
Launch Console from you Utilities folder and in the left pane select Console 
Messages. 
Leave it open, and then try to launch X11. 
You should see a series of messages appear as X11 launches.

Are you getting an error message at some point in the sequence. 
One likely point could be a font problem. 

I know programs that run in X11 should launch it automatically. 
I'm just suggesting it would be quicker and less complicated to see what the 
hang-up is with X11 if you just launch it yourself without anything else 
attempting to launch at the same time.

Have you check the Mac OS X Technologies > Unix discussions, they might be 
worth trying.



Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/03/2010, at 12:23 PM, Peter Smit wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> First time posting so bear with.  
> 
> Got a user with a new Mac Pro Quad-core running 10.6.2, X11 and Xcode. X11 is 
> beginning to lose startup information – an app that ran successfully for a 
> week no longer runs. A display adapter variable was noted to have changed, 
> but we cannot account for the change. Anyone else ran into problems with 
> running Radiance or other programs with a linux basis in Snow Leopard?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Peter
> 
> 
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X11 in 10.6.2

[Peter Smit]

Hi all,

First time posting so bear with.

Got a user with a new Mac Pro Quad-core running 10.6.2, X11 and Xcode. X11
is beginning to lose startup information ­ an app that ran successfully for
a week no longer runs. A display adapter variable was noted to have changed,
but we cannot account for the change. Anyone else ran into problems with
running Radiance or other programs with a linux basis in Snow Leopard?


Regards,
Peter


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Re: Inkjet cheap ink

[John Daniels]

Thanks Ronni
Enough said I'll stick to the branded Epson.
Cheers
John

Hi John (Feltham)
Yes I remember your post, it looked complicated so I didn't pursue it  
any further.

Cheers

On 07/03/2010, at 5:31 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi John,

If you want quality Prints & no chance of damage to your printer by  
leaking ink, use your Printers recommended genuine inks & paper.


I've always used Epson Printers, with Epson Ink Cartridges and Epson  
recommended paper for the specific job.
This way the Printer Driver / software --- The Print Dialogue Window  
with Print Settings, Media type, colour management will give you the  
best outcome of your prints.


Even though my Epson Photo TX700W Network Multi Function printer  
seems to go through Ink Cartridges like there is no tomorrow, I  
wouldn't use anything else other than Epson Ink Cartridges.
Also it keeps Daniel (MacWizardry) in business, keeping me supplied  
with Ink ;-)


So now you have 3 to 1 against refills.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 07/03/2010, at 5:06 PM, John Daniels wrote:



Thanks for your input folks. it seems that it's 2 to 1 against  
refills so far. Anyone else like to weigh in?

Cheers
John

On 04/03/2010, at 12:15 PM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



I refill most of the printer cartridges I have used with  
compatible inks.Almost impossible to get Brother compatible  
ink though.


Always had good results with no print-head breakdowns.  Very messy  
if you are not careful.


Cartridge world swaps your cartridge for a full one for much less  
than the original stuff and they work well.


The web always has instructions for refilling carts, often on  
YouTube.


Kev





Hi folks
I have always bought the genuine inks for my printer, but now  
that we have 3 printers between us it's getting expensive.


What do Wamuggers think of the non genuine cheap inks as far as  
damage which may be caused to the printers and  true colour inks  
which do not fade?


Cheers
John

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Re: Cleaning question

[James Devenish]

Hi Reg,

On 07/03/2010, Reg Whitely  wrote:
> Is this what's in my Dick Smith spray can of Contact Cleaner? It
> carries no contents list other than the propellant - hydrocarbon

The Contact Cleaner is just an inert gas -- like tetrafluoroethane
(the hydrocarbon acts as both the propellant and the active
ingredient). Useful for cleaning the dust out of confined spaces, but
it's more like blowing air than anything else. It won't clean the
fingerprints off anything.

The chemist's alcohol wipes are fine for what you used them for, they
were probably a 70/30 mix of isopropanol and water like you would find
in a first-aid kit, which basically the 75/25 combination I referred
to in my previous e-mail. But if they contain ethanol, they wouldn't
be suitable for plastics.

James


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Re: Cleaning question

[Reg Whitely]

Hi James

Is this what's in my Dick Smith spray can of Contact Cleaner? It  
carries no contents list other than the propellant - hydrocarbon :-((


 I just today bought a $9.50 box of alcohol wipes at the chemist to  
put a protective panel on my Son's Grand Vitara rear plastic bumper.  
Suzuki instructions told me to use them, and a lint free cloth, to  
prepare the surface, which I dutifully did. Could I have used this  
spray instead? I didn't even remember I had the can in the closet  
until you posted this.


(Hmm what else is in that closet I wonder?)

Ta

Reg

On 07/03/2010, at 7:20 PM, James Devenish wrote:



Hi Aurora,

I'm very curious about the Enjo idea -- sounds like a great idea if  
it works.


For quick cleaning, I use isopropyl alcohol (99.7% pure
isopropanol/propan-2-ol, not the 70% "rubbing alcohol"). You can buy a
spray pack for $10 at electronics stores. You don't have to turn off
the computer before spraying it, as it's electrically non-conductive
and you can spray it carefree (no need to overdo it, though).

You can safely and effectively clean metal, plastic and glass. I use
it to clean all of my computers, laptops, screens, keyboards, mice,
USB flash drives, iPods, mobile phones, desks, mirrors, windows, etc.
It's a "universal cleaner" for non-porous surfaces. I generally wipe
with tissues, but obviously you'd use a lint-free cloth if you can (I
use left-overs from spectacles).

I know there is a culture against using "alcohol" and tissues, but
they are harmless, effective, and cheap. People always marvel at why
my equipment looks brand new. The reason people are against "alcohol"
is due to ethanol (drinking alcohol), which will damage most plastics.

For proper polishing, I use a 60%/40% (or 75%/25%) mixture of
isopropyl alcohol and water. This can be sprayed onto standalone
keyboards, mice and glass screens (anything that can be virtually
sprayed with water). But for non water-tight surfaces, I use the
mixture to moisten a cloth/tissue. The mixture is a better polisher
than either ingredient on its own, and the alcohol ensures that the
water evaporates quickly. It is also a great tool for eliminating
leftover adhesive from labels and sticky tape. You can use it as a
general household cleaner and disinfectant.

James


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Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Tim,

That forum post sounds similar but, in fact, is specifically related to Word
2008 - the first reply notes that it WASN'T a problem in Word 2004 but WAS a
problem in Word 2008 and the next reply says it is (or was in April 2008) a
known bug.

So, assuming that Sally is still running Word 2004, this would not actually
seem to be the same problem - still interesting that the symptom sounds the
same though.


Cheers



Neil
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Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 7/3/10 3:56 PM, Tim Law at t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

> 
> Really sorry to create the initial confusion.  I thought Sally had a
> dual processor G5. But obviously she now has something different.
> 
> There is mention of this problem at
> http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Word/2486/0
>   but no apparent fix so far.
> 
> I will forward all the responses to her and she may yet find a fix
> herself.
> 
> Appreciate the feedback, and again apologies for starting the
> confusion by posting she had a G5.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 3:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Severin (and Ronni)
>> 
>> You are correct, the G5 was a PPC processor. There was an iMac G5
>> and a PPC
>> PowerMac G5.
>> Intel didn't make a G5, so the MacPro wasn't a G5.
>> (Sorry to correct Ronni) :o)
>> And yes 10.6.x requires Intel only. 10.5 was the last OS that would
>> work on
>> a PPC machine (but killed off Classic support).
>> 
>> Hope that helps clarify a little.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/3/10 3:23 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I know what you mean Severin. It always confuses me when
>>> people say they
>>> have a G5, it can mean an iMac G5, a Power Mac G5, a Mac Pro, any
>>> Apple G5
>>> computer. It makes life a little difficult if you are trying to
>>> give support
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2010, at 3:15 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
 
 Thanks Ronni, I thought the G5 bit referred only to PPC and was
 not used on
 the Intel MacPros
 Severin
 
 On 07/03/2010, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> The Mac Pro G5 is Intel:  
> € 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
> 5500 series
> processors
> € Quad-core: One 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, or 3.33GHz Quad-Core Intel
> Xeon 3500
> series processor
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 2:35 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am puzzled at 10.6.2 on a G5 - I thought Snow Leopard required
>> an Intel
>> Mac?
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> On 07/03/2010, at 10:26 AM, Tim Law wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tips so far.
>>> 
>>> Sally has provided me with two documents, her original Word
>>> file showing a
>>> nicely set up shadow box, and a PDF of the same document
>>> showing a yukky
>>> text  box with shadow of the text inside the text box. I have
>>> created a
>>> PDF accessible for viewing at  http://files.me.com/peoplehelp/jmjg2a
>>> this shows the output problem she has. This yukky text box is
>>> replicated
>>> on her two printers - HP 5550 colour & an HP 8000
>>> 
>>> I tested to see if I could recreate the problem on my iMac
>>> running Word
>>> 2004, the same as Sally's. Given she has had the same printing
>>> problem
>>> with Leopard and Snow Leopard I am thinking the operating
>>> system and
>>> machine is not the issue.   To my surprise, I found the Word
>>> document
>>> printed fine, and so did the PDF version - with clear shadow
>>> box and no
>>> shadow on the text inside the box. I have a Dell CN3110 colour
>>> laser.
>>> 
>>> So - The document CAN print properly and it CAN be saved
>>> correctly as a
>>> PDF. This would appear to put Word 2004 out of the equation as
>>> the
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> But - On Sally's machine it cannot, despite using the same Word
>>> 2004
>>> version.  I can understand the actual printers not functioning
>>> correctly
>>> as they could have inadequate drivers, but I am confused as to
>>> why she
>>> gets problems printing to PDF. I would have thought that would
>>> have worked
>>> separately from the physical printer drivers.
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if somehow the Apple printing tool that allows
>>> printing to
>>> PDF has been altered by the installation of the printer drivers
>>> for the
>>> two HP printers. I have no clue, just wondering.
>>> One option I can pursue is to pack up my Dell colour laser and
>>> take it to
>>> Sally's and hook up to her system and see what happens - or,
>>> now here's an
>>> idea - become her printing service for a suitable fee  :-)
>>> 
>>> The lin

Re: Cleaning question

[James Devenish]

Hi Aurora,

I'm very curious about the Enjo idea -- sounds like a great idea if it works.

For quick cleaning, I use isopropyl alcohol (99.7% pure
isopropanol/propan-2-ol, not the 70% "rubbing alcohol"). You can buy a
spray pack for $10 at electronics stores. You don't have to turn off
the computer before spraying it, as it's electrically non-conductive
and you can spray it carefree (no need to overdo it, though).

You can safely and effectively clean metal, plastic and glass. I use
it to clean all of my computers, laptops, screens, keyboards, mice,
USB flash drives, iPods, mobile phones, desks, mirrors, windows, etc.
It's a "universal cleaner" for non-porous surfaces. I generally wipe
with tissues, but obviously you'd use a lint-free cloth if you can (I
use left-overs from spectacles).

I know there is a culture against using "alcohol" and tissues, but
they are harmless, effective, and cheap. People always marvel at why
my equipment looks brand new. The reason people are against "alcohol"
is due to ethanol (drinking alcohol), which will damage most plastics.

For proper polishing, I use a 60%/40% (or 75%/25%) mixture of
isopropyl alcohol and water. This can be sprayed onto standalone
keyboards, mice and glass screens (anything that can be virtually
sprayed with water). But for non water-tight surfaces, I use the
mixture to moisten a cloth/tissue. The mixture is a better polisher
than either ingredient on its own, and the alcohol ensures that the
water evaporates quickly. It is also a great tool for eliminating
leftover adhesive from labels and sticky tape. You can use it as a
general household cleaner and disinfectant.

James


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Re: Inkjet cheap ink

[John Feltham]

G'day john,

On 07/03/2010, at 7:06 PM, John Daniels wrote:


> Thanks for your input folks. it seems that it's 2 to 1 against refills so 
> far. Anyone else like to weigh in?


It's not so long ago that I weighed in with...

http://www.rihac.com.au/



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Re: Inkjet cheap ink

[Ronda Brown]

Hi John,

If you want quality Prints & no chance of damage to your printer by leaking 
ink, use your Printers recommended genuine inks & paper.

I've always used Epson Printers, with Epson Ink Cartridges and Epson 
recommended paper for the specific job.
This way the Printer Driver / software --- The Print Dialogue Window with Print 
Settings, Media type, colour management will give you the best outcome of your 
prints.

Even though my Epson Photo TX700W Network Multi Function printer seems to go 
through Ink Cartridges like there is no tomorrow, I wouldn't use anything else 
other than Epson Ink Cartridges.
Also it keeps Daniel (MacWizardry) in business, keeping me supplied with Ink ;-)

So now you have 3 to 1 against refills.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 07/03/2010, at 5:06 PM, John Daniels wrote:

> 
> Thanks for your input folks. it seems that it's 2 to 1 against refills so 
> far. Anyone else like to weigh in?
> Cheers
> John
> 
> On 04/03/2010, at 12:15 PM, KEVIN Lock wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I refill most of the printer cartridges I have used with compatible inks.
>> Almost impossible to get Brother compatible ink though.
>> 
>> Always had good results with no print-head breakdowns.  Very messy if you 
>> are not careful.
>> 
>> Cartridge world swaps your cartridge for a full one for much less than the 
>> original stuff and they work well.
>> 
>> The web always has instructions for refilling carts, often on YouTube.
>> 
>> Kev
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi folks
>>> I have always bought the genuine inks for my printer, but now that we have 
>>> 3 printers between us it's getting expensive.
>>> 
>>> What do Wamuggers think of the non genuine cheap inks as far as damage 
>>> which may be caused to the printers and  true colour inks which do not fade?
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> John
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[John Daniels]

Thanks for your input folks. it seems that it's 2 to 1 against refills  
so far. Anyone else like to weigh in?

Cheers
John

On 04/03/2010, at 12:15 PM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



I refill most of the printer cartridges I have used with compatible  
inks.Almost impossible to get Brother compatible ink though.


Always had good results with no print-head breakdowns.  Very messy  
if you are not careful.


Cartridge world swaps your cartridge for a full one for much less  
than the original stuff and they work well.


The web always has instructions for refilling carts, often on YouTube.

Kev





Hi folks
I have always bought the genuine inks for my printer, but now that  
we have 3 printers between us it's getting expensive.


What do Wamuggers think of the non genuine cheap inks as far as  
damage which may be caused to the printers and  true colour inks  
which do not fade?


Cheers
John

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Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Tim,

I agree with Daniel, try running Word in a New User Account.

I think I would:
1.  UN-install M$ office using their Uninstall tool 
2. Then empty the trash 
3. Restart her Mac ... whatever it is ;-)
4. Install Rosetta  
5. Install office 
6. Update Office
7. Restart her Mac 

The uninstall clears out a lot of files that could get corrupted.
The restart helps clear any other cache data.

Cheers,
Ronni 


On 07/03/2010, at 4:30 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> 
> Hi Tim
> 
> You could also get her to try running Word under a new "test" user to see if
> it does the same thing.
> As Neil mentioned, it may be her copy of Word, that is causing some problems
> (or preferences).
> If it prints fine under a new user, then there is something in her User
> account that is causing the issue.
> If it still does the same thing, it wouldn't hurt to remove Word and all
> it's preferences and reinstall it from scratch with all the updates.
> 
> Worth a try.
> 
> And no dramas on processor,..these things happen. :o) But yes if she's
> running 10.6.x and Parallels then it won't be a PPC processor (Gx series
> were PPC) as neither of those would run. Just being picky to help the thread
> along,...lol :o)
> 
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 7/3/10 3:56 PM, "Tim Law"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Really sorry to create the initial confusion.  I thought Sally had a
>> dual processor G5. But obviously she now has something different.
>> 
>> There is mention of this problem at
>> http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Word/2486/0
>>  but no apparent fix so far.
>> 
>> I will forward all the responses to her and she may yet find a fix
>> herself.
>> 
>> Appreciate the feedback, and again apologies for starting the
>> confusion by posting she had a G5.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/03/2010, at 3:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Severin (and Ronni)
>>> 
>>> You are correct, the G5 was a PPC processor. There was an iMac G5
>>> and a PPC
>>> PowerMac G5.
>>> Intel didn't make a G5, so the MacPro wasn't a G5.
>>> (Sorry to correct Ronni) :o)
>>> And yes 10.6.x requires Intel only. 10.5 was the last OS that would
>>> work on
>>> a PPC machine (but killed off Classic support).
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps clarify a little.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/3/10 3:23 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
>>> 
 
 Yes, I know what you mean Severin. It always confuses me when
 people say they
 have a G5, it can mean an iMac G5, a Power Mac G5, a Mac Pro, any
 Apple G5
 computer. It makes life a little difficult if you are trying to
 give support
 ...
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 07/03/2010, at 3:15 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
> 
> Thanks Ronni, I thought the G5 bit referred only to PPC and was
> not used on
> the Intel MacPros
> Severin
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> The Mac Pro G5 is Intel:  
>> • 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
>> 5500 series
>> processors
>> • Quad-core: One 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, or 3.33GHz Quad-Core Intel
>> Xeon 3500
>> series processor
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 07/03/2010, at 2:35 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I am puzzled at 10.6.2 on a G5 - I thought Snow Leopard required
>>> an Intel
>>> Mac?
>>> Severin Crisp
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2010, at 10:26 AM, Tim Law wrote:
>>> 
 
 All,
 
 Thanks for the tips so far.
 
 Sally has provided me with two documents, her original Word
 file showing a
 nicely set up shadow box, and a PDF of the same document
 showing a yukky
 text  box with shadow of the text inside the text box. I have
 created a
 PDF accessible for viewing at  http://files.me.com/peoplehelp/jmjg2a
 this shows the output problem she has. This yukky text box is
 replicated
 on her two printers - HP 5550 colour & an HP 8000
 
 I tested to see if I could recreate the problem on my iMac
 running Word
 2004, the same as Sally's. Given she has had the same printing
 problem
 with Leopard and Snow Leopard I am thinking the operating
 system and
 machine is not the issue.   To my surprise, I found the Word
 document
 printed fine, and so did the PDF version - with clear shadow
 box and no
 shadow on the text inside the box. I have a Dell CN3110 colour
 laser.
 
 So - The document CAN print properly and it CAN be saved
 correctly as a
 PDF. This would appear to put Word 2004 out of the equation as
 the
 problem.
 
 But - On Sally's machine it cannot, despite using the same Word
 2004
 version.  I 

Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Tim

You could also get her to try running Word under a new "test" user to see if
it does the same thing.
As Neil mentioned, it may be her copy of Word, that is causing some problems
(or preferences).
If it prints fine under a new user, then there is something in her User
account that is causing the issue.
If it still does the same thing, it wouldn't hurt to remove Word and all
it's preferences and reinstall it from scratch with all the updates.

Worth a try.

And no dramas on processor,..these things happen. :o) But yes if she's
running 10.6.x and Parallels then it won't be a PPC processor (Gx series
were PPC) as neither of those would run. Just being picky to help the thread
along,...lol :o)


Kind Regards
Daniel


On 7/3/10 3:56 PM, "Tim Law"  wrote:

> 
> Really sorry to create the initial confusion.  I thought Sally had a
> dual processor G5. But obviously she now has something different.
> 
> There is mention of this problem at
> http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Word/2486/0
>   but no apparent fix so far.
> 
> I will forward all the responses to her and she may yet find a fix
> herself.
> 
> Appreciate the feedback, and again apologies for starting the
> confusion by posting she had a G5.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 3:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Severin (and Ronni)
>> 
>> You are correct, the G5 was a PPC processor. There was an iMac G5
>> and a PPC
>> PowerMac G5.
>> Intel didn't make a G5, so the MacPro wasn't a G5.
>> (Sorry to correct Ronni) :o)
>> And yes 10.6.x requires Intel only. 10.5 was the last OS that would
>> work on
>> a PPC machine (but killed off Classic support).
>> 
>> Hope that helps clarify a little.
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/3/10 3:23 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I know what you mean Severin. It always confuses me when
>>> people say they
>>> have a G5, it can mean an iMac G5, a Power Mac G5, a Mac Pro, any
>>> Apple G5
>>> computer. It makes life a little difficult if you are trying to
>>> give support
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2010, at 3:15 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
 
 Thanks Ronni, I thought the G5 bit referred only to PPC and was
 not used on
 the Intel MacPros
 Severin
 
 On 07/03/2010, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> The Mac Pro G5 is Intel:  
> € 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
> 5500 series
> processors
> € Quad-core: One 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, or 3.33GHz Quad-Core Intel
> Xeon 3500
> series processor
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 2:35 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I am puzzled at 10.6.2 on a G5 - I thought Snow Leopard required
>> an Intel
>> Mac?
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>> On 07/03/2010, at 10:26 AM, Tim Law wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tips so far.
>>> 
>>> Sally has provided me with two documents, her original Word
>>> file showing a
>>> nicely set up shadow box, and a PDF of the same document
>>> showing a yukky
>>> text  box with shadow of the text inside the text box. I have
>>> created a
>>> PDF accessible for viewing at  http://files.me.com/peoplehelp/jmjg2a
>>> this shows the output problem she has. This yukky text box is
>>> replicated
>>> on her two printers - HP 5550 colour & an HP 8000
>>> 
>>> I tested to see if I could recreate the problem on my iMac
>>> running Word
>>> 2004, the same as Sally's. Given she has had the same printing
>>> problem
>>> with Leopard and Snow Leopard I am thinking the operating
>>> system and
>>> machine is not the issue.   To my surprise, I found the Word
>>> document
>>> printed fine, and so did the PDF version - with clear shadow
>>> box and no
>>> shadow on the text inside the box. I have a Dell CN3110 colour
>>> laser.
>>> 
>>> So - The document CAN print properly and it CAN be saved
>>> correctly as a
>>> PDF. This would appear to put Word 2004 out of the equation as
>>> the
>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> But - On Sally's machine it cannot, despite using the same Word
>>> 2004
>>> version.  I can understand the actual printers not functioning
>>> correctly
>>> as they could have inadequate drivers, but I am confused as to
>>> why she
>>> gets problems printing to PDF. I would have thought that would
>>> have worked
>>> separately from the physical printer drivers.
>>> 
>>> I am wondering if somehow the Apple printing tool that allows
>>> printing to
>>> PDF has been altered by the installation of the printer drivers
>>> for the
>>> two HP printers. I have no clue, just wondering.
>>> One option I can pursue is to pack up my Dell colour laser and
>>> take it to
>>>

Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Paul van der Mey]

Just tried a simple Word 2004 document with one text box having a default 
shadow applied.

Printed to a HP Photosmart 3310 (injet) from a current model i7 iMac running 
10.6.2.

Printed as displayed on screen.

Then tried from my PowerBook G4 running 10.4.11 and Office 2004 (V11.5.3) tot 
he same printer.
Again printed as displayed on screen.



Thank you

Paul van der Mey
p...@interactive-knowledge.biz
Mob. 0419 201 477




On 06/03/2010, at 10:17 PM, Philippe Chaperon wrote:

> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Not sure about the HP 8000 laser, but I have just tried creating a
> text box with shadow on Word 2008 (Mac) which printed OK on a Brother
> HL-1430. Whether it is the HP driver which is the problem I am not
> sure, and I assume she has the latest driver on her Mac. The best way
> would be for some one to try printing on her printer using Word 2008.
> 
> One word of caution, remember that Office 2008 does not support VBA or
> Macros. So, if she uses these extensively now she will loose them if
> she goes to the current version. Alternatively she could wait for the
> next version of Office for Mac which fortunately will support VBA and
> Macros again. It is meant to come out some time this year.
> 
> I'm sorry I do not have any solutions as such, but one of WAMUG's
> expert will sure come up with something.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Philippe
> 
> 2010/3/6 Tim Law 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am asking this for a friend of mine who is running Office Mac 2004 on a G5 
>> with 10.6.2 and needing some help with printing of text boxes and shadow.
>> She prints to an HP 8000 laser.  The printer is an older A3 colour that 
>> duplexes and very valuable for her business - but it just won't talk 
>> properly to the Mac - or so it seems.
>> 
>> She can set up what she wants on the screen i.e. a text box with a shadow 
>> around the outside of the text box, but when she prints the shading is on 
>> the inside of the text box and it does not print what is showing on the 
>> screen.
>> 
>> She has used Macs for many years, but kept a PC going so she could get this 
>> feature to print properly. Now the PC has stopped and she is searching for a 
>> solution again to get the Mac to print shadow boxes. She knows someone else 
>> who has the same problem and they just stopped using shading on text boxes.  
>> Sally writes training packages and it's her preference to keep the 
>> appearance of shaded boxes.
>> 
>> She feels it is a printer driver issue relating to the HP8000 and has tried 
>> running Parallels but finds it slows down her system dreadfully.
>> 
>> She's spent hours searching the web for a fix, with no luck and is hoping 
>> someone has found a solution?
>> Is upgrading Word likely to be a solution?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Daniel,

I agree that the G5 "normally" refers to the PPC processor G5.
But in this case Tim's original email said Sally's computer is running OS X 
10.6.2, so it has to be an Intel Apple Computer G4!

Cheers,
Ronni

On 07/03/2010, at 3:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> 
> Hi Severin (and Ronni)
> 
> You are correct, the G5 was a PPC processor. There was an iMac G5 and a PPC
> PowerMac G5.
> Intel didn't make a G5, so the MacPro wasn't a G5.
> (Sorry to correct Ronni) :o)
> And yes 10.6.x requires Intel only. 10.5 was the last OS that would work on
> a PPC machine (but killed off Classic support).
> 
> Hope that helps clarify a little.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/3/10 3:23 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yes, I know what you mean Severin. It always confuses me when people say they
>> have a G5, it can mean an iMac G5, a Power Mac G5, a Mac Pro, any Apple G5
>> computer. It makes life a little difficult if you are trying to give support
>> ...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> On 07/03/2010, at 3:15 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Ronni, I thought the G5 bit referred only to PPC and was not used on
>>> the Intel MacPros
>>> Severin
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2010, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 The Mac Pro G5 is Intel:   
 • 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 series
 processors
 • Quad-core: One 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, or 3.33GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 3500
 series processor
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 07/03/2010, at 2:35 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
> 
> I am puzzled at 10.6.2 on a G5 - I thought Snow Leopard required an Intel
> Mac?
> Severin Crisp
> 
> On 07/03/2010, at 10:26 AM, Tim Law wrote:
> 
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> Thanks for the tips so far.
>> 
>> Sally has provided me with two documents, her original Word file showing 
>> a
>> nicely set up shadow box, and a PDF of the same document showing a yukky
>> text  box with shadow of the text inside the text box. I have created a
>> PDF accessible for viewing at  http://files.me.com/peoplehelp/jmjg2a
>> this shows the output problem she has. This yukky text box is replicated
>> on her two printers - HP 5550 colour & an HP 8000
>> 
>> I tested to see if I could recreate the problem on my iMac running Word
>> 2004, the same as Sally's. Given she has had the same printing problem
>> with Leopard and Snow Leopard I am thinking the operating system and
>> machine is not the issue.   To my surprise, I found the Word document
>> printed fine, and so did the PDF version - with clear shadow box and no
>> shadow on the text inside the box. I have a Dell CN3110 colour laser.
>> 
>> So - The document CAN print properly and it CAN be saved correctly as a
>> PDF. This would appear to put Word 2004 out of the equation as the
>> problem.
>> 
>> But - On Sally's machine it cannot, despite using the same Word 2004
>> version.  I can understand the actual printers not functioning correctly
>> as they could have inadequate drivers, but I am confused as to why she
>> gets problems printing to PDF. I would have thought that would have 
>> worked
>> separately from the physical printer drivers.
>> 
>> I am wondering if somehow the Apple printing tool that allows printing to
>> PDF has been altered by the installation of the printer drivers for the
>> two HP printers. I have no clue, just wondering.
>> One option I can pursue is to pack up my Dell colour laser and take it to
>> Sally's and hook up to her system and see what happens - or, now here's 
>> an
>> idea - become her printing service for a suitable fee  :-)
>> 
>> The link showing the problems in a pdf is active for one month. After 
>> that
>> date if you come across this posting, just email me direct.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/03/2010, at 9:29 PM, Tim Law wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I am asking this for a friend of mine who is running Office Mac 2004 on 
>>> a
>>> G5 with 10.6.2 and needing some help with printing of text boxes and
>>> shadow.
>>> She prints to an HP 8000 laser.  The printer is an older A3 colour that
>>> duplexes and very valuable for her business - but it just won't talk
>>> properly to the Mac - or so it seems.
>>> 
>>> She can set up what she wants on the screen i.e. a text box with a 
>>> shadow
>>> around the outside of the text box, but when she prints the shading is 
>>> on
>>> the inside of the text box and it does not print what is showing on the
>>> screen.
>>> 
>>> She has used Macs for many years, but kept a PC going so she could get
>>> this feature to print properly. 

Re: Printing shadow boxes in Word 2004 to an HP 8000 colour laser printer

[Tim Law]

Really sorry to create the initial confusion.  I thought Sally had a  
dual processor G5. But obviously she now has something different.


There is mention of this problem at http://www.officeformac.com/ms/ProductForums/Word/2486/0 
 but no apparent fix so far.


I will forward all the responses to her and she may yet find a fix  
herself.


Appreciate the feedback, and again apologies for starting the  
confusion by posting she had a G5.


Tim




On 07/03/2010, at 3:44 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



Hi Severin (and Ronni)

You are correct, the G5 was a PPC processor. There was an iMac G5  
and a PPC

PowerMac G5.
Intel didn't make a G5, so the MacPro wasn't a G5.
(Sorry to correct Ronni) :o)
And yes 10.6.x requires Intel only. 10.5 was the last OS that would  
work on

a PPC machine (but killed off Classic support).

Hope that helps clarify a little.

Kind Regards
Daniel



On 7/3/10 3:23 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:



Yes, I know what you mean Severin. It always confuses me when  
people say they
have a G5, it can mean an iMac G5, a Power Mac G5, a Mac Pro, any  
Apple G5
computer. It makes life a little difficult if you are trying to  
give support

...

Cheers,
Ronni


On 07/03/2010, at 3:15 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Thanks Ronni, I thought the G5 bit referred only to PPC and was  
not used on

the Intel MacPros
Severin

On 07/03/2010, at 3:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Severin,

The Mac Pro G5 is Intel:  
• 8-core: Two 2.26GHz, 2.66GHz, or 2.93GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon  
5500 series

processors
• Quad-core: One 2.66GHz, 2.93GHz, or 3.33GHz Quad-Core Intel  
Xeon 3500

series processor

Cheers,
Ronni

On 07/03/2010, at 2:35 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



I am puzzled at 10.6.2 on a G5 - I thought Snow Leopard required  
an Intel

Mac?
Severin Crisp

On 07/03/2010, at 10:26 AM, Tim Law wrote:



All,

Thanks for the tips so far.

Sally has provided me with two documents, her original Word  
file showing a
nicely set up shadow box, and a PDF of the same document  
showing a yukky
text  box with shadow of the text inside the text box. I have  
created a

PDF accessible for viewing at  http://files.me.com/peoplehelp/jmjg2a
this shows the output problem she has. This yukky text box is  
replicated

on her two printers - HP 5550 colour & an HP 8000

I tested to see if I could recreate the problem on my iMac  
running Word
2004, the same as Sally's. Given she has had the same printing  
problem
with Leopard and Snow Leopard I am thinking the operating  
system and
machine is not the issue.   To my surprise, I found the Word  
document
printed fine, and so did the PDF version - with clear shadow  
box and no
shadow on the text inside the box. I have a Dell CN3110 colour  
laser.


So - The document CAN print properly and it CAN be saved  
correctly as a
PDF. This would appear to put Word 2004 out of the equation as  
the

problem.

But - On Sally's machine it cannot, despite using the same Word  
2004
version.  I can understand the actual printers not functioning  
correctly
as they could have inadequate drivers, but I am confused as to  
why she
gets problems printing to PDF. I would have thought that would  
have worked

separately from the physical printer drivers.

I am wondering if somehow the Apple printing tool that allows  
printing to
PDF has been altered by the installation of the printer drivers  
for the

two HP printers. I have no clue, just wondering.
One option I can pursue is to pack up my Dell colour laser and  
take it to
Sally's and hook up to her system and see what happens - or,  
now here's an

idea - become her printing service for a suitable fee  :-)

The link showing the problems in a pdf is active for one month.  
After that

date if you come across this posting, just email me direct.

Thanks

Tim







On 06/03/2010, at 9:29 PM, Tim Law wrote:



Hello,

I am asking this for a friend of mine who is running Office  
Mac 2004 on a
G5 with 10.6.2 and needing some help with printing of text  
boxes and

shadow.
She prints to an HP 8000 laser.  The printer is an older A3  
colour that
duplexes and very valuable for her business - but it just  
won't talk

properly to the Mac - or so it seems.

She can set up what she wants on the screen i.e. a text box  
with a shadow
around the outside of the text box, but when she prints the  
shading is on
the inside of the text box and it does not print what is  
showing on the

screen.

She has used Macs for many years, but kept a PC going so she  
could get
this feature to print properly. Now the PC has stopped and she  
is
searching for a solution again to get the Mac to print shadow  
boxes. She
knows someone else who has the same problem and they just  
stopped using
shading on text boxes.  Sally writes training packages and  
it's her

preference to keep the appearance of shaded boxes.

She feels it is a printer driver issue relating to the HP8000  
and has
tried running Parallels but finds it slows down her