Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the previous 
instructions?

I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as I don’t know 
your setup or how you did the transition.

I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or delete the 
mail.insilico folders.

1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some place safe 
(perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place them back in the original 
position.
3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird

If you find all your messages are there and everything is working correctly, 
you can delete the folders you copied previously.
If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

 Hi Ronni,
 
 
 This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we switched 
 from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.   Everything OK.  All emails 
 functional on two computers in the same house (bigpond ADSL)  everything 
 comes to 1. an iMac and 2. My laptop.
 
 About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac ceased, emails 
 to laptop continued.
 
 
 Upon following the protocol below I found three separate mail.insilico 
 folders.  
 
 
 Do I delete them?
 
 
 Bill
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.
 
 
 Bill
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 To restore corrupted mailboxes:
 
 1. Quit Thunderbird.
 
 2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the subfolder 
 for that mail account.
 Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you 
 problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems, delete inbox.msf. 
 Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename extension), as it 
 contains your messages.
 
 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and rebuild the 
 index file (table of contents) from your existing messages.
 
 To help keep your system healthy after you get it working again, compact 
 your mail folders regularly, and move messages you want to keep out of your 
 inbox into their own mail folder.
 
 Where is my Profile Folder?
 On Mac OS X, the path is usually 
 ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/.default/
 (~ represents your Home Directory)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 10:24 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 
 Hi Folk,
 
 I have a a an issue with a corrupted maibox on Thunderbird.  There are 
 three email addresses in and it does NOt appear to affect the INbox but 
 only two others.
 
 
 is there a website I can go to to get a solution?Most of it is, as 
 usual, Windows.
 
 
 Bill
 





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Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Parker

Ronni,
See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we  
transferred from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months  
ago) and all email accounts were operating normally, new account data  
all correct. ( until Mid May)  I rang in-silico just now and they have  
no trace of any activity for any of the old accounts


Notes follow

On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the  
previous instructions?


I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as I  
don’t know your setup or how you did the transition.


I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or  
delete the mail.insilico folders.


1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some  
place safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place them  
back in the original position.

3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird


All done.
Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.

Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No 1  
and No3 were required, No2 wasn't.


Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting throughto  
the two accounts.


Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard  
protocol?


I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!


Bill






If you find all your messages are there and everything is working  
correctly, you can delete the folders you copied previously.

If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Hi Ronni,


This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we  
switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.   Everything  
OK.  All emails functional on two computers in the same house  
(bigpond ADSL)  everything comes to 1. an iMac and 2. My laptop.


About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac  
ceased, emails to laptop continued.



Upon following the protocol below I found three separate  
mail.insilico folders.



Do I delete them?


Bill

On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.


Bill
On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

To restore corrupted mailboxes:

1. Quit Thunderbird.

2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the  
subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you  
problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems, delete  
inbox.msf.
Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename extension),  
as it contains your messages.


3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.


To help keep your system healthy after you get it working again,  
compact your mail folders regularly, and move messages you want  
to keep out of your inbox into their own mail folder.


Where is my Profile Folder?
On Mac OS X, the path is usually ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/ 
.default/

(~ represents your Home Directory)

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)




On 07/07/2011, at 10:24 AM, Bill Parker wrote:



Hi Folk,

I have a a an issue with a corrupted maibox on Thunderbird.   
There are three email addresses in and it does NOt appear to  
affect the INbox but only two others.



is there a website I can go to to get a solution?Most of it  
is, as usual, Windows.



Bill







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Re: Using iTunes Film Description Field

2011-07-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

I seem to remember reading something about iTunes short description field is 
limited to 255 characters.

Ok, I’ve done some searching and found this information.
I’m not sure if this AppleScript from ‘Doug’s AppleScripts for iTunes’ will do 
what you want.
I’ve never used it, so cannot comment on whether it works or not. I have used 
other Doug’s Applescripts  find them very useful.

Please read the “read me pdf” and all information at the link below, and 
proceed at your own risk ;-)

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=longdescriptiontodescription

Long Description to Description v1.0

This script will copy the contents a the Long Description tag to the 
Description tag of each selected track. 
The Description tag can only have 255 characters. 
Purchased/protected tracks cannot be modified with this script as iTunes will 
just default to the information in the file's meta data.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/07/2011, at 12:10 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

 
 Is there a method to provide a description to Films, TV Shows, etc in iTunes 
 that is longer than about 250 characters?  (iTunes vers 10.3.1)
 
 Movies downloaded from the iTunes Store have an embedded description viewable 
 in the iTunes application.  Descriptions can be quite detailed and lengthy.   
 Using File  Get Info - Video/Description field, I can only see about the 
 first 250 characters.I can type information about one of my own movies in 
 the Video/Description field but characters past the 250th do not display in 
 iTunes and are not saved within the data entry field.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4M - OSX 10.6.8
  iPad2; ATV2
 




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Re: ACPI Non-Compliant installing Win 7 over XP2 in VMWare Fusion on my MacBook Pro

2011-07-08 Thread Reg Whitely
Thanks Daniel and Ronni. This thread helped: 
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/268775?tstart=0
Rather than mess about with it I reinstalled it in a new Virtual Machine so now 
have 3 machines!

Reg

Reg Whitely

Home: 08 9921 7272
Mob: 04 8899 7313
Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net



On 07/07/2011, at 8:06 pm, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Reg,
 
 Re: Windows 7 Upgrade and Fusion 3
 When you install the Windows 7 upgrade disk on a new (blank) drive or virtual 
 machine just skip the S/N field during the initial install. 
 Leave it blank and click next. When the install completes implement method #2 
 on this 
 website.http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/clean_install_upgrade_media.asp?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter
  
 This will allow you to submit your S/N and activate with Microsoft. 
 http://communities.vmware.com/thread/238899
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 7:43 PM, Reg Whitely rwhit...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Dear WAMUGgers
 
 I have just tried to install a legitimate Dept of Education Data#3 Upgrade 
 of Win 7 Ultimate over my existing DOE XP2 version, running in VMWare Fusion 
 v3.1.3, on my Macbook Pro 2.2, i7, 750GB HDD, 8Gb RAM. 
 
 I believe I have allocated enough disk space and RAM for the installation - 
 60GB HDD and 4GB RAM and have expanded XP2 to accommodate this change using 
 Easeus Partition Master.
 
 When trying to install Win 7, I get this message: 
 
 This computer is not compliant with the Advanced Configuration and Power 
 Interface (ACPI) standard. Windows must be installed onto a computer that 
 supports ACPI. Contact your computer manufacturer for a BIOS update or 
 install Windows on an ACPI-compliant computer.
 
 I understand this will be a Custom install and have used Easy Transfer For 
 Win 7 software to back up data. I'm not really worried about this data, as I 
 am only using this as a demo to non-Mac believers.
 
 Can anyone please give advice or suggestion to overcome this problem?
 
 Many thanks
 
 Reg
 
 
 Reg Whitely
 
 Home: 08 9921 7272
 Mob: 04 8899 7313
 Email: rwhit...@internode.on.net
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Bill,

I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???

On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

 Ronni,
 See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we transferred from 
 in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months ago) and all email accounts 
 were operating normally, new account data all correct. ( until Mid May)  I 
 rang in-silico just now and they have no trace of any activity for any of the 
 old accounts
 
 Notes follow
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the previous 
 instructions?
 
 I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as I don’t 
 know your setup or how you did the transition.
 
 I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or delete the 
 mail.insilico folders.
 
 1. Quit Thunderbird
 2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some place safe 
 (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place them back in the original 
 position.
 3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
 4. Open Thunderbird
 
 All done.
 Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.

Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?
 
 Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No 1 and No3 
 were required, No2 wasn’t.

A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which you have said 
is not required).
B. Then delete the No.2 folder

Then follow the instruction to “To restore corrupted mailboxes:”
As in my first reply to you, making sure you Do NOT delete the file with no 
filename extension, as it contains your messages.

2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the subfolder for 
that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you problems.

 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and rebuild the 
index file (table of contents) from your existing messages.

 
 Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting throughto the two 
 accounts.
 
 Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard protocol?  
 
 I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!

I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile when you switched 
over?
Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?

I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the process. 
Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

Cheers,
Ronni

 
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 
 
 If you find all your messages are there and everything is working correctly, 
 you can delete the folders you copied previously.
 If not, place them back where they originally were.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 
 This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we switched 
 from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.   Everything OK.  All emails 
 functional on two computers in the same house (bigpond ADSL)  everything 
 comes to 1. an iMac and 2. My laptop.
 
 About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac ceased, emails 
 to laptop continued.
 
 
 Upon following the protocol below I found three separate mail.insilico 
 folders.  
 
 
 Do I delete them?
 
 
 Bill
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.
 
 
 Bill
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 To restore corrupted mailboxes:
 
 1. Quit Thunderbird.
 
 2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the 
 subfolder for that mail account.
 Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you 
 problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems, delete 
 inbox.msf. 
 Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename extension), as it 
 contains your messages.
 
 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and rebuild the 
 index file (table of contents) from your existing messages.
 
 To help keep your system healthy after you get it working again, compact 
 your mail folders regularly, and move messages you want to keep out of 
 your inbox into their own mail folder.
 
 Where is my Profile Folder?
 On Mac OS X, the path is usually 
 ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/.default/
 (~ represents your Home Directory)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 
 
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 10:24 AM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 
 Hi Folk,
 
 I have a a an issue with a corrupted maibox on Thunderbird.  There are 
 three email addresses in and it does NOt appear to affect the INbox but 
 only two others.
 
 
 is there a 

Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Parker
Its the mid May thing that has me bothered.  I do not use Thunderbird  
either, but I will try further after backing up all emails in both  
accounts and try deleting the .msf files as per protocol earlier.


Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???

On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,
See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we  
transferred from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months  
ago) and all email accounts were operating normally, new account  
data all correct. ( until Mid May)  I rang in-silico just now and  
they have no trace of any activity for any of the old accounts


Notes follow

On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the  
previous instructions?


I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as  
I don’t know your setup or how you did the transition.


I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or  
delete the mail.insilico folders.


1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some  
place safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place them  
back in the original position.

3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird


All done.
Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.


Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?


Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No  
1 and No3 were required, No2 wasn’t.


A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which you  
have said is not required).

B. Then delete the No.2 folder

Then follow the instruction to “To restore corrupted mailboxes:”
As in my first reply to you, making sure you Do NOT delete the file  
with no filename extension, as it contains your messages.


2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the  
subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you  
problems.


 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.




Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting  
throughto the two accounts.


Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard  
protocol?


I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!


I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile when  
you switched over?

Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?

I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the  
process. Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac 


http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

Cheers,
Ronni




Bill






If you find all your messages are there and everything is working  
correctly, you can delete the folders you copied previously.

If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Hi Ronni,


This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we  
switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.
Everything OK.  All emails functional on two computers in the  
same house (bigpond ADSL)  everything comes to 1. an iMac and 2.  
My laptop.


About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac  
ceased, emails to laptop continued.



Upon following the protocol below I found three separate  
mail.insilico folders.



Do I delete them?


Bill

On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.


Bill
On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

To restore corrupted mailboxes:

1. Quit Thunderbird.

2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then  
the subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving  
you problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems,  
delete inbox.msf.
Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename  
extension), as it contains your messages.


3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.


To help keep your system healthy after you get it working  
again, compact your mail folders regularly, and move messages  
you want to keep out of your inbox into their own mail folder.


Where is my Profile Folder?
On Mac OS X, the path is usually ~/Library/Thunderbird/Profiles/ 
.default/

(~ represents your Home Directory)

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)




On 07/07/2011, at 10:24 AM, Bill Parker 

Re: Using iTunes Film Description Field

2011-07-08 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

This will need more investigation by me.  I had a quick look at Doug's 
AppleScripts site and saw several items of interest.  

As you suggested, it seems there is a 255 character limit for user input in 
iTunes.  The 'OH!' moment was the use of the term 'long description' which I 
didn't know about.   it appears the long description is built into the movie 
itself and many people want to transfer that information into iTunes.I find 
there are a lot of threads in the forums about this.   Now I will give a deeper 
look at iTunes tags and the discussion threads now I know what to look for.  
(I've been avoiding AppleScripts and Automator and other arcane Mac things.)
Perhaps I will just have to hone my writing skills to make a movie synopsis and 
Apple TV comment in just a sentence or two.

Thanks very much for your response.

Cheers
Alan

On 08/07/2011, at 3:56 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Hi Alan,

I seem to remember reading something about iTunes short description field is 
limited to 255 characters.

Ok, I’ve done some searching and found this information.
I’m not sure if this AppleScript from ‘Doug’s AppleScripts for iTunes’ will do 
what you want.
I’ve never used it, so cannot comment on whether it works or not. I have used 
other Doug’s Applescripts  find them very useful.

Please read the “read me pdf” and all information at the link below, and 
proceed at your own risk ;-)

http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=longdescriptiontodescription

Long Description to Description v1.0

This script will copy the contents a the Long Description tag to the 
Description tag of each selected track. 
The Description tag can only have 255 characters. 
Purchased/protected tracks cannot be modified with this script as iTunes will 
just default to the information in the file's meta data.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/07/2011, at 12:10 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

 
 Is there a method to provide a description to Films, TV Shows, etc in iTunes 
 that is longer than about 250 characters?  (iTunes vers 10.3.1)
 
 Movies downloaded from the iTunes Store have an embedded description viewable 
 in the iTunes application.  Descriptions can be quite detailed and lengthy.   
 Using File  Get Info - Video/Description field, I can only see about the 
 first 250 characters.I can type information about one of my own movies in 
 the Video/Description field but characters past the 250th do not display in 
 iTunes and are not saved within the data entry field.
 
 Regards, Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4M - OSX 10.6.8
  iPad2; ATV2
 




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Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Parker

Ronni,

Can now report success by deleting the relevant .msf files and re- 
starting.  Both accounts now work again.   I don't think it matters  
much what the files are called and that in-silico are not experiencing  
any issues.


Thank you so much for your help.

Bill

On 08/07/2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

Its the mid May thing that has me bothered.  I do not use  
Thunderbird either, but I will try further after backing up all  
emails in both accounts and try deleting the .msf files as per  
protocol earlier.


Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???

On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,
See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we  
transferred from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months  
ago) and all email accounts were operating normally, new account  
data all correct. ( until Mid May)  I rang in-silico just now and  
they have no trace of any activity for any of the old accounts


Notes follow

On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the  
previous instructions?


I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as  
I don’t know your setup or how you did the transition.


I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or  
delete the mail.insilico folders.


1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some  
place safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place  
them back in the original position.

3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird


All done.
Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.


Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?


Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No  
1 and No3 were required, No2 wasn’t.


A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which you  
have said is not required).

B. Then delete the No.2 folder

Then follow the instruction to “To restore corrupted mailboxes:”
As in my first reply to you, making sure you Do NOT delete the file  
with no filename extension, as it contains your messages.


2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the  
subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you  
problems.


 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.




Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting  
throughto the two accounts.


Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard  
protocol?


I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!


I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile when  
you switched over?

Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?

I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the  
process. Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac 


http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

Cheers,
Ronni




Bill






If you find all your messages are there and everything is working  
correctly, you can delete the folders you copied previously.

If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Hi Ronni,


This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we  
switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.
Everything OK.  All emails functional on two computers in the  
same house (bigpond ADSL)  everything comes to 1. an iMac and 2.  
My laptop.


About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac  
ceased, emails to laptop continued.



Upon following the protocol below I found three separate  
mail.insilico folders.



Do I delete them?


Bill

On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.


Bill
On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

To restore corrupted mailboxes:

1. Quit Thunderbird.

2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then  
the subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving  
you problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems,  
delete inbox.msf.
Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename  
extension), as it contains your messages.


3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.


To help keep your system healthy after you get it working  
again, compact your mail folders regularly, and move messages  
you want to keep out of your inbox into their own mail folder.


Where is my Profile Folder?
On Mac 

USA version of program

2011-07-08 Thread Brett Curtis
I am looking at buying a full version of Filemaker Pro

Sticks in the craw, tho, when you see the difference in the price offered to 
Americans vs Aussie price.
We're talking the developer version, cos I like developing my own database 
(hobby wise).

I can't see how the program would be any different.  But the price is $300 
different!  Not to mention that the AU$ is higher than the US$

Can I purchase a USA version or would I be stopped if the application noticed 
my address being in Oz?
If so, given that I have a .com address, not .au, can I pretend to be a US 
resident?

Maybe a private answer, rather than public one.

Regards,


 C. Brett Curtis

Master Window Cleaners 

br...@masterwindowcleaners.com




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Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Ronda Brown
That’s good Bill,

As long as we get the result you wanted, I guess it doesn’t matter if we don’t 
find the reason “How” the problem happened  ;-)

I’m pleased I was able to help.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/07/2011, at 5:09 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

 Ronni,
 
 Can now report success by deleting the relevant .msf files and re-starting.  
 Both accounts now work again.   I don't think it matters much what the files 
 are called and that in-silico are not experiencing any issues.
 
 Thank you so much for your help.
 
 Bill
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Its the mid May thing that has me bothered.  I do not use Thunderbird 
 either, but I will try further after backing up all emails in both accounts 
 and try deleting the .msf files as per protocol earlier.
 
 Bill
 On 08/07/2011, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Ronni,
 See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we transferred 
 from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months ago) and all email 
 accounts were operating normally, new account data all correct. ( until 
 Mid May)  I rang in-silico just now and they have no trace of any activity 
 for any of the old accounts
 
 Notes follow
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the previous 
 instructions?
 
 I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as I don’t 
 know your setup or how you did the transition.
 
 I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or delete the 
 mail.insilico folders.
 
 1. Quit Thunderbird
 2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some place 
 safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place them back in the 
 original position.
 3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
 4. Open Thunderbird
 
 All done.
 Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.
 
 Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?
 
 Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No 1 and 
 No3 were required, No2 wasn’t.
 
 A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which you have 
 said is not required).
 B. Then delete the No.2 folder
 
 Then follow the instruction to “To restore corrupted mailboxes:”
 As in my first reply to you, making sure you Do NOT delete the file with no 
 filename extension, as it contains your messages.
 
 2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the subfolder 
 for that mail account.
 Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you problems.
 
  3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and rebuild the 
 index file (table of contents) from your existing messages.
 
 
 Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting throughto the 
 two accounts.
 
 Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard protocol?  
 
 I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!
 
 I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile when you 
 switched over?
 Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?
 
 I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the process. 
 Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
 http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac
 http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 
 
 If you find all your messages are there and everything is working 
 correctly, you can delete the folders you copied previously.
 If not, place them back where they originally were.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 
 This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago, we 
 switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.   Everything OK.  
 All emails functional on two computers in the same house (bigpond ADSL)  
 everything comes to 1. an iMac and 2. My laptop.
 
 About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac ceased, 
 emails to laptop continued.
 
 
 Upon following the protocol below I found three separate mail.insilico 
 folders.  
 
 
 Do I delete them?
 
 
 Bill
 
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:
 
 Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.
 
 
 Bill
 On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
 Hi Bill,
 
 To restore corrupted mailboxes:
 
 1. Quit Thunderbird.
 
 2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the 
 subfolder for that mail account.
 Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you 
 problems-- e.g., if your inbox is the one with problems, delete 
 inbox.msf. 
 Do NOT delete the file named Inbox (with no filename extension), as it 
 contains your messages.
 
 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will 

Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Bill Parker
Looks like I spoke too soon.I can send emails from one computer in  
the house to the other but they do not work from external senders!



So any WAMUG folks with Thunderbird expertise?   Please let me know.


Thanks again Ronni, but it seems that deleting the  .msf files does  
not work.   So it maybe isn't a corruption event.



Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 5:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


That’s good Bill,

As long as we get the result you wanted, I guess it doesn’t matter  
if we don’t find the reason “How” the problem happened  ;-)


I’m pleased I was able to help.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/07/2011, at 5:09 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,

Can now report success by deleting the relevant .msf files and re- 
starting.  Both accounts now work again.   I don't think it matters  
much what the files are called and that in-silico are not  
experiencing any issues.


Thank you so much for your help.

Bill

On 08/07/2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

Its the mid May thing that has me bothered.  I do not use  
Thunderbird either, but I will try further after backing up all  
emails in both accounts and try deleting the .msf files as per  
protocol earlier.


Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???

On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,
See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we  
transferred from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6  
months ago) and all email accounts were operating normally, new  
account data all correct. ( until Mid May)  I rang in-silico  
just now and they have no trace of any activity for any of the  
old accounts


Notes follow

On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following  
the previous instructions?


I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required  
as I don’t know your setup or how you did the transition.


I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or  
delete the mail.insilico folders.


1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to  
some place safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to  
place them back in the original position.

3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird


All done.
Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.


Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?


Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find  
No 1 and No3 were required, No2 wasn’t.


A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which  
you have said is not required).

B. Then delete the No.2 folder

Then follow the instruction to “To restore corrupted mailboxes:”
As in my first reply to you, making sure you Do NOT delete the  
file with no filename extension, as it contains your messages.


2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the  
subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you  
problems.


 3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and  
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing  
messages.




Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting  
throughto the two accounts.


Thinking.   do I delete the .msf files as per your standard  
protocol?


I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!


I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile  
when you switched over?

Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?

I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the  
process. Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac 


http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

Cheers,
Ronni




Bill






If you find all your messages are there and everything is  
working correctly, you can delete the folders you copied  
previously.

If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Hi Ronni,


This turns out to be more complicated.  About six months ago,  
we switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.
Everything OK.  All emails functional on two computers in the  
same house (bigpond ADSL)  everything comes to 1. an iMac and  
2. My laptop.


About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac  
ceased, emails to laptop continued.



Upon following the protocol below I found three separate  
mail.insilico folders.



Do I delete them?


Bill

On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.


Bill
On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

To restore corrupted mailboxes:

1. Quit Thunderbird.

2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then  
the 

Re: Telstra starts censoring the internet

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Davies

Hi Matthew,

I would hate to burst your bubble, but if you are connecting via PPoE, you 
connection is being NAT'd, monitored and filtered.

This is in response to peoples lack of understanding of how networks function, 
do you think ISP's will give people access without some form of control.
Just plugging a router, ADSL Modem into any PPoE connection and watch the 
amount of traffic attempting access.
What and whom do you think is stopping most of it getting into your system. If 
you do not see any then it definitely is being controlled.

I am totally surprised everyday the amount of routers which are connected 
without some form of firewall in place.
This is business and private usage, and yes a firewall is not the only answer. 
But, it is a start.

Cheers!
`RobD...


On 08Jul2011 at 10:00 am, Matthew Healey wrote:
,
 
 Hi Rob,
 
 Don't confuse filtering with censoring. I can choose not to use SPAM filters 
 or Virus Scanners. That's the difference.
 
 As Ronni mentioned, the problem is that once the infrastructure is in place 
 to block web sites at will, then those in power will use that ability to 
 their advantage. These sorts of things are ALWAYS pushed though with some 
 sort of boogie-man, be it communism, terrorism, national security or Won't 
 someone please think of the children!!. It's just a convenient scapegoat.
 
 - Matt
 
 
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Re: Thunderbird corruption problem

2011-07-08 Thread Merv Bond


Bill
Have you upgraded to Version 5?
If not, do all the usual prep: backup, run disk utility etc and then 
download Version 5 and see whether that has any effect.

Merv

On Fri8Jul2011 Fri8Jul7:24 PM, Bill Parker wrote:

Looks like I spoke too soon. I can send emails from one computer in the
house to the other but they do not work from external senders!


So any WAMUG folks with Thunderbird expertise? Please let me know.


Thanks again Ronni, but it seems that deleting the .msf files does not
work. So it maybe isn't a corruption event.


Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 5:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


That’s good Bill,

As long as we get the result you wanted, I guess it doesn’t matter if
we don’t find the reason “How” the problem happened ;-)

I’m pleased I was able to help.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/07/2011, at 5:09 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,

Can now report success by deleting the relevant .msf files and
re-starting. Both accounts now work again. I don't think it matters
much what the files are called and that in-silico are not
experiencing any issues.

Thank you so much for your help.

Bill

On 08/07/2011, at 4:34 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Its the mid May thing that has me bothered. I do not use Thunderbird
either, but I will try further after backing up all emails in both
accounts and try deleting the .msf files as per protocol earlier.

Bill
On 08/07/2011, at 4:28 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

I wonder what changed in “Mid May” ???

On 08/07/2011, at 3:21 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Ronni,
See my comments below, however, the thing to note is that we
transferred from in-silico to get-on-line quite smoothly (6 months
ago) and all email accounts were operating normally, new account
data all correct. ( until Mid May) I rang in-silico just now and
they have no trace of any activity for any of the old accounts

Notes follow

On 08/07/2011, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

Is the ‘corrupted mailbox’ problem corrected after following the
previous instructions?

I don’t know if these mail.insilico folders are still required as
I don’t know your setup or how you did the transition.

I would suggest you Quit Thunderbird first, before you move or
delete the mail.insilico folders.

1. Quit Thunderbird
2. Backup / Copy the three separate mail.insilico folders to some
place safe (perhaps a thumb drive), in case you need to place
them back in the original position.
3. Delete the mail.insilico folders
4. Open Thunderbird


All done.
Re-open: all mail gone for both email accounts.


Did you “restore corrupted mailboxes” again?


Re-install the saved in-silico mail folders one by one and find No
1 and No3 were required, No2 wasn’t.


A. Quit Thunderbird and backup/ copy the No2 Mail folder (which you
have said is not required).
B. Then delete the No.2 folder

Then follow the instruction to “*To restore corrupted mailboxes:”*
*As in my first reply to you, making sure you*Do NOT delete* the
file with no filename extension, as it contains your messages.*
*
*
*2. In your profile folder, open the Mail subfolder, and then the
subfolder for that mail account.
Delete the *.msf file for the folder (mailbox) that is giving you
problems.*
*
*
*3. Restart Thunderbird. It will analyse your message file and
rebuild the index file (table of contents) from your existing
messages.*
*
*


Tried sending emails from the other computer - none getting
throughto the two accounts.

Thinking. do I delete the .msf files as per your standard
protocol?

I am still perplexed about the use of a defunct name!


I’m confused as to why, perhaps you never changed the profile when
you switched over?
Or didn’t import the mail messages into your new profile?

I don’t use Thunderbird, I use Apple Mail, so I am unsure of the
process. Perhaps someone who uses Thunderbird can help more.
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/search?q=Thunderbird+for+Mac
http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/home

Cheers,
Ronni




Bill






If you find all your messages are there and everything is working
correctly, you can delete the folders you copied previously.
If not, place them back where they originally were.

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 08/07/2011, at 12:01 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Hi Ronni,


This turns out to be more complicated. About six months ago, we
switched from hosting at in-silico to get-on-line now.
Everything OK. All emails functional on two computers in the
same house (bigpond ADSL) everything comes to 1. an iMac and 2.
My laptop.

About May 12th. all emails to two email accounts on the iMac
ceased, emails to laptop continued.


Upon following the protocol below I found three separate
mail.insilico folders.


Do I delete them?


Bill

On 07/07/2011, at 12:38 PM, Bill Parker wrote:


Thanks very much I'll have a crack at that later.


Bill
On 07/07/2011, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

*To 

Google+ Invites [First 15]

2011-07-08 Thread Kyle Kreusch
Hi All WAMUG

Invites are currently open again for Google+ if you would like one please
e-mail me your Gmail address to aug...@gmail.com sorry no Google Apps
customers with your full name and e-mail address.

You may not be able to get in straight away but registrations have been
opened the last two days between 1 and 5 AM, You are also welcome to respond
to this e-mail on list if you would prefer.

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Re: Google+ Invites [First 15]

2011-07-08 Thread Kyle Kreusch
There is still plenty of invites to go out if anyone's interested, Maybe not
a good idea if you don't want to spend your weekend in Google+ trust me it's
addictive.

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Re: Google+ Invites [First 15]

2011-07-08 Thread Kyle Kreusch
Shayne and Paul Your invites have been sent but unfortunately Google has
closed registrations you will need to try tomorrow during the times I
mentioned earlier to register.

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