Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Roger,
I am sorry,(this is not directed at you personally) but I am 67 years of age, & 
have been around long enough now, to be more than capable of being my own 
keeper, & I don't need anyone else to do it for me, if at any time I feel I 
need advice, I'm not shy, I will be the first to ask for it.
Regards
Derek
PS To all the group I hope now that the subject will be closed.
PPS computer still for sale for $2500 o.n.o

On 19/06/2012, at 3:49 PM, Roger Kortas wrote:

> Hi Derek
> 
> There is no need to take that attitude, the guys were trying to help you .
> 
> 
> Roger
> 
> On 19/06/2012, at 2:15 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi Daniel,
>> I know the pros & cons & don't need a lecture, I believe in helping people 
>> as much as I can &  as for the wamug list, if you feel that strongly about 
>> it, then remove the offending posts, & remove my permission to post to 
>> wamug, then I can't offend anyone or cause wamug any legal problems, & I'm 
>> fed up with reading sanctimonious rants anyway.
>> Have a good life
>> Regards
>> Derek
>> 
>> On 19/06/2012, at 1:34 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Derek
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately not. That is still software piracy. And you can get fined for 
>>> it, as can the person that loaned it to you. 
>>> It's a very fine line. 
>>> Sorry to sound harsh. But it can also impact on WAMUG as well. 
>>> 
>>> It's fine to sell the computer but not the software. (unless you own it and 
>>> legally sell the discs and serials). 
>>> You're opening yourself up for big legal issues (and fines) by selling it 
>>> (or even advertising on a public list). Sorry to say. 
>>> 
>>> Certainly sell the machine, but remove the software. :))
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> Daniel Kerr
>>> MacWizardry
>>> 
>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>> Email: 
>>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>> 
>>> ** For Everything Apple **
>>> 
>>> On 19/06/2012, at 12:53 PM, Derek Perry  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni,
>>>> Yes I understand where you are coming from, & I did see the instructions 
>>>> on how to get a computer ready for sale.
>>>> 
>>>> I was just thinking that someone could take advantage of the installed 
>>>> software for as long as they were able to & if & when it no longer became 
>>>> viable then they hadn't lost anything because they hadn't payed for it & 
>>>> it wasn't theirs in the first place, I would just be loaning it to them 
>>>> while it's working, just as it was loaned to me, by the legal owner.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone who buys it feels the same way you do, then surely they are free 
>>>> to uninstall it.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Derek
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Ronda Brown 
>>>> To: "wamug@wamug.org.au"  
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:16 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: imac for sale
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Derek,
>>>> 
>>>> You should not leave software installed on your computer that you don't 
>>>> legally own.
>>>> 
>>>> If you are selling a machine to someone without the media to reinstall and 
>>>> properly own that app, what happens if they have a crash or need to 
>>>> reinstall the software? 
>>>> Do the right thing by making really sure the buyer understands exactly 
>>>> what they are getting. 
>>>> 
>>>> Software is protected by federal copyright law.
>>>> 
>>>> The iMac should be completely erased and a clean installation of the OS 
>>>> (operating system).
>>>> We have given instructions on WAMUG how to do get a computer ready for 
>>>> sale only a few days ago.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/06/2012, at 11:29 AM, Derek Perry  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>> Thanks for your enquiry the  short answer is no.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Explanation:
>>>>> The software discs are owned by a 

Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Hi Daniel,
I know the pros & cons & don't need a lecture, I believe in helping people as 
much as I can &  as for the wamug list, if you feel that strongly about it, 
then remove the offending posts, & remove my permission to post to wamug, then 
I can't offend anyone or cause wamug any legal problems, & I'm fed up with 
reading sanctimonious rants anyway.
Have a good life
Regards
Derek

On 19/06/2012, at 1:34 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Derek
> 
> Unfortunately not. That is still software piracy. And you can get fined for 
> it, as can the person that loaned it to you. 
> It's a very fine line. 
> Sorry to sound harsh. But it can also impact on WAMUG as well. 
> 
> It's fine to sell the computer but not the software. (unless you own it and 
> legally sell the discs and serials). 
> You're opening yourself up for big legal issues (and fines) by selling it (or 
> even advertising on a public list). Sorry to say. 
> 
> Certainly sell the machine, but remove the software. :))
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> ** For Everything Apple **
> 
> On 19/06/2012, at 12:53 PM, Derek Perry  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> Yes I understand where you are coming from, & I did see the instructions on 
>> how to get a computer ready for sale.
>> 
>> I was just thinking that someone could take advantage of the installed 
>> software for as long as they were able to & if & when it no longer became 
>> viable then they hadn't lost anything because they hadn't payed for it & it 
>> wasn't theirs in the first place, I would just be loaning it to them while 
>> it's working, just as it was loaned to me, by the legal owner.
>> 
>> 
>> If anyone who buys it feels the same way you do, then surely they are free 
>> to uninstall it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Derek
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ronda Brown 
>> To: "wamug@wamug.org.au"  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: imac for sale
>> 
>> Hi Derek,
>> 
>> You should not leave software installed on your computer that you don't 
>> legally own.
>> 
>> If you are selling a machine to someone without the media to reinstall and 
>> properly own that app, what happens if they have a crash or need to 
>> reinstall the software? 
>> Do the right thing by making really sure the buyer understands exactly what 
>> they are getting. 
>> 
>> Software is protected by federal copyright law.
>> 
>> The iMac should be completely erased and a clean installation of the OS 
>> (operating system).
>> We have given instructions on WAMUG how to do get a computer ready for sale 
>> only a few days ago.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> On 19/06/2012, at 11:29 AM, Derek Perry  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> Thanks for your enquiry the  short answer is no.
>>> 
>>> Explanation:
>>> The software discs are owned by a Wamug friend, so are not mine to sell, 
>>> the software is loaded on the machine & it is free, to whoever buys the 
>>> computer & it is all fully functional.
>>> 
>>> All I am asking is a fair price for the computer as I bought it with only 
>>> the stuff on it that is supplied by Apple.
>>> 
>>> The remote controller & the battery charger + rechargeable batteries are 
>>> also free with the computer.
>>> 
>>> If you have any other questions please ask.
>>> Thanks
>>> Derek
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Derek
>>>> 
>>>> Asking on behalf of a possible client. Does it come with the install CDs 
>>>> and serial numbers for all the software (Office, Toast, iWork)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>> MacWizardry
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>> Email: 
>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> **For everything Apple**
>>>> 
>>>> On 18/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
>>>> 
>>

Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Ronni
Just remove the offending posts, I will remove software from computer before 
sale, also if I buy a software program, then as far as I'm concerned I own it & 
I will do with it whatever I think fit & that includes putting it on as many 
computers that will allow it to install & run.
Derek

On 19/06/2012, at 1:47 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> How I feel has nothing to do with this at all.
> 
> Software is never sold, Its always licensed! You get a copy of it and a 
> license to use it.
> This is not new, its the way all proprietary software has been "sold" since 
> the dawn of personal computing.
> 
> "The law says that anyone who purchases a copy of software has the right to 
> load that copy onto a single computer and to make another copy "for archival 
> purposes only" or, in limited circumstances, for "purposes only of 
> maintenance or repair." 
> 
> It is illegal to use that software on more than one computer or to make or 
> distribute copies of that software for any other purpose unless specific 
> permission has been obtained from the software publisher.
> 
> If you pirate software, you may face not only a civil suit for damages and 
> other relief, but criminal liability as well, including fines and jail terms."
> 
> We have Apple Representatives who sometimes read our mailing list as I've 
> been contacted offlist by them on occasion (to help a situation). 
> 
> We would not want them to think we as a group condone breaking copyright laws!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 19/06/2012, at 12:53 PM, Derek Perry  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> Yes I understand where you are coming from, & I did see the instructions on 
>> how to get a computer ready for sale.
>> 
>> I was just thinking that someone could take advantage of the installed 
>> software for as long as they were able to & if & when it no longer became 
>> viable then they hadn't lost anything because they hadn't payed for it & it 
>> wasn't theirs in the first place, I would just be loaning it to them while 
>> it's working, just as it was loaned to me, by the legal owner.
>> 
>> 
>> If anyone who buys it feels the same way you do, then surely they are free 
>> to uninstall it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Derek
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Ronda Brown 
>> To: "wamug@wamug.org.au"  
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: imac for sale
>> 
>> Hi Derek,
>> 
>> You should not leave software installed on your computer that you don't 
>> legally own.
>> 
>> If you are selling a machine to someone without the media to reinstall and 
>> properly own that app, what happens if they have a crash or need to 
>> reinstall the software? 
>> Do the right thing by making really sure the buyer understands exactly what 
>> they are getting. 
>> 
>> Software is protected by federal copyright law.
>> 
>> The iMac should be completely erased and a clean installation of the OS 
>> (operating system).
>> We have given instructions on WAMUG how to do get a computer ready for sale 
>> only a few days ago.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> On 19/06/2012, at 11:29 AM, Derek Perry  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>> Thanks for your enquiry the  short answer is no.
>>> 
>>> Explanation:
>>> The software discs are owned by a Wamug friend, so are not mine to sell, 
>>> the software is loaded on the machine & it is free, to whoever buys the 
>>> computer & it is all fully functional.
>>> 
>>> All I am asking is a fair price for the computer as I bought it with only 
>>> the stuff on it that is supplied by Apple.
>>> 
>>> The remote controller & the battery charger + rechargeable batteries are 
>>> also free with the computer.
>>> 
>>> If you have any other questions please ask.
>>> Thanks
>>> Derek
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Derek
>>>> 
>>>> Asking on behalf of a possible client. Does it come with the install CDs 
>>>> and serial numbers for all the software (Office, Toast, iWork)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>

Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Hi Ronni,
Yes I understand where you are coming from, & I did see the instructions on how 
to get a computer ready for sale.

I was just thinking that someone could take advantage of the installed software 
for as long as they were able to & if & when it no longer became viable then 
they hadn't lost anything because they hadn't payed for it & it wasn't theirs 
in the first place, I would just be loaning it to them while it's working, just 
as it was loaned to me, by the legal owner.


If anyone who buys it feels the same way you do, then surely they are free to 
uninstall it.

Regards
Derek




 From: Ronda Brown 
To: "wamug@wamug.org.au"  
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: imac for sale
 
Hi Derek,

You should not leave software installed on your computer that you don't legally 
own.

If you are selling a machine to someone without the media to reinstall and 
properly own that app, what happens if they have a crash or need to reinstall 
the software? 
Do the right thing by making really sure the buyer understands exactly what 
they are getting. 

Software is protected by federal copyright law.

The iMac should be completely erased and a clean installation of the OS 
(operating system).
We have given instructions on WAMUG how to do get a computer ready for sale 
only a few days ago.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 19/06/2012, at 11:29 AM, Derek Perry  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
> Thanks for your enquiry the  short answer is no.
> 
> Explanation:
> The software discs are owned by a Wamug friend, so are not mine to sell, the 
> software is loaded on the machine & it is free, to whoever buys the computer 
> & it is all fully functional.
> 
> All I am asking is a fair price for the computer as I bought it with only the 
> stuff on it that is supplied by Apple.
> 
> The remote controller & the battery charger + rechargeable batteries are also 
> free with the computer.
> 
> If you have any other questions please ask.
> Thanks
> Derek
> 
> 
> On 18/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi Derek
>> 
>> Asking on behalf of a possible client. Does it come with the install CDs and 
>> serial numbers for all the software (Office, Toast, iWork)
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Kerr
>> MacWizardry
>> 
>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>> Email: 
>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>> 
>> 
>> **For everything Apple**
>> 
>> On 18/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> I have an imac for sale if anyone is interested, thought I would give 
>>> someone on the list first chance before I advertise it elsewhere, it was 
>>> bought in June 2011 from Maxstyle in Myaree & has hardly been used, maybe 
>>> turned on once a week, it is always covered over when not in use, I have 
>>> original receipts & boxes, is pre loaded with Microsoft Offfice 2011, 
>>> Titanium toast 11 Pro, i Life 11, i work 09, Skype 5.1 plus a couple of 
>>> others.
>>> 
>>> The reason for sale is that I have 3 other computer & hardly ever use this 
>>> one, so it is really surplus to requirements.
>>> 
>>> Total cost I paid for it is $3238.40 & I am open to reasonable offers, 
>>> contact me at dperry...@yahoo.com.au or (08) 9417 3357 anytime
>>> 
>>> specifications are:
>>> 
>>> iMac 27"  3.4GHz- Quad- core intel- core i7
>>> 1TB Hard drive
>>> 4GB Memory Kingston DDR3 SODIMM-1333
>>> AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb DDR5 Graphics card
>>> Apple Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad (Trackpad unused)
>>> Apple Wireless Keyboard
>>> Apple remote (unused)
>>> Apple Battery Charger, with rechargeable batteries
>>> Apple care protection plan (Never used)
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Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your enquiry the  short answer is no.

Explanation:
The software discs are owned by a Wamug friend, so are not mine to sell, the 
software is loaded on the machine & it is free, to whoever buys the computer & 
it is all fully functional.

All I am asking is a fair price for the computer as I bought it with only the 
stuff on it that is supplied by Apple.

The remote controller & the battery charger + rechargeable batteries are also 
free with the computer.

If you have any other questions please ask.
Thanks
Derek


On 18/06/2012, at 6:23 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:

> Hi Derek
> 
> Asking on behalf of a possible client. Does it come with the install CDs and 
> serial numbers for all the software (Office, Toast, iWork)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4s
> 
> ---
> Daniel Kerr
> MacWizardry
> 
> Phone: 0414 795 960
> Email: 
> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
> 
> 
> **For everything Apple**
> 
> On 18/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I have an imac for sale if anyone is interested, thought I would give 
>> someone on the list first chance before I advertise it elsewhere, it was 
>> bought in June 2011 from Maxstyle in Myaree & has hardly been used, maybe 
>> turned on once a week, it is always covered over when not in use, I have 
>> original receipts & boxes, is pre loaded with Microsoft Offfice 2011, 
>> Titanium toast 11 Pro, i Life 11, i work 09, Skype 5.1 plus a couple of 
>> others.
>> 
>> The reason for sale is that I have 3 other computer & hardly ever use this 
>> one, so it is really surplus to requirements.
>> 
>> Total cost I paid for it is $3238.40 & I am open to reasonable offers, 
>> contact me at dperry...@yahoo.com.au or (08) 9417 3357 anytime
>> 
>> specifications are:
>> 
>> iMac 27"  3.4GHz- Quad- core intel- core i7
>> 1TB Hard drive
>> 4GB Memory Kingston DDR3 SODIMM-1333
>> AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb DDR5 Graphics card
>> Apple Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad (Trackpad unused)
>> Apple Wireless Keyboard
>> Apple remote (unused)
>> Apple Battery Charger, with rechargeable batteries
>> Apple care protection plan (Never used)
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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Re: imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Thanks.Derek

On 18/06/2012, at 12:39 PM, Roger Kortas wrote:

> Hi Derek
> 
> For a comparison a new 27" iMac with those specs and 16gb is A$ 3,287.00 
> incl. 
> 
> 
> best regards
> 
> Roger
> 
> On 18/06/2012, at 12:32 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> I have an imac for sale if anyone is interested, thought I would give 
>> someone on the list first chance before I advertise it elsewhere, it was 
>> bought in June 2011 from Maxstyle in Myaree & has hardly been used, maybe 
>> turned on once a week, it is always covered over when not in use, I have 
>> original receipts & boxes, is pre loaded with Microsoft Offfice 2011, 
>> Titanium toast 11 Pro, i Life 11, i work 09, Skype 5.1 plus a couple of 
>> others.
>> 
>> The reason for sale is that I have 3 other computer & hardly ever use this 
>> one, so it is really surplus to requirements.
>> 
>> Total cost I paid for it is $3238.40 & I am open to reasonable offers, 
>> contact me at dperry...@yahoo.com.au or (08) 9417 3357 anytime
>> 
>> specifications are:
>> 
>> iMac 27"  3.4GHz- Quad- core intel- core i7
>> 1TB Hard drive
>> 4GB Memory Kingston DDR3 SODIMM-1333
>> AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb DDR5 Graphics card
>> Apple Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad (Trackpad unused)
>> Apple Wireless Keyboard
>> Apple remote (unused)
>> Apple Battery Charger, with rechargeable batteries
>> Apple care protection plan (Never used)
>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --
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>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>
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imac for sale

[Derek Perry]

Hi All,
I have an imac for sale if anyone is interested, thought I would give someone 
on the list first chance before I advertise it elsewhere, it was bought in June 
2011 from Maxstyle in Myaree & has hardly been used, maybe turned on once a 
week, it is always covered over when not in use, I have original receipts & 
boxes, is pre loaded with Microsoft Offfice 2011, Titanium toast 11 Pro, i Life 
11, i work 09, Skype 5.1 plus a couple of others.

The reason for sale is that I have 3 other computer & hardly ever use this one, 
so it is really surplus to requirements.

Total cost I paid for it is $3238.40 & I am open to reasonable offers, contact 
me at dperry...@yahoo.com.au or (08) 9417 3357 anytime

specifications are:

iMac 27"  3.4GHz- Quad- core intel- core i7
1TB Hard drive
4GB Memory Kingston DDR3 SODIMM-1333
AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb DDR5 Graphics card
Apple Magic Mouse & Magic Trackpad (Trackpad unused)
Apple Wireless Keyboard
Apple remote (unused)
Apple Battery Charger, with rechargeable batteries
Apple care protection plan (Never used)
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Re: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey

[Derek Perry]

 to financial members, then that would exclude members 
>> who go to the meetings.
>> The Survey is to get any form of feedback that helps WAMUG grow!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni who also can not attend the WAMUG meetings.
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad
>> 
>> On 07/03/2012, at 7:43 PM, Stuart Evans  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Wow folks it's a survey about how to make WAMUG better, not a Government 
>>> survey about your financial health! Any and all information will help the 
>>> guys improve all offerings as Daniel says. Those of us in the outer fringes 
>>> will no doubt offer our thoughts even if we can't make it to Perth and have 
>>> to hold our own meetings around a camp fire (what do you reckon Severin & 
>>> Neil?).  ;-)
>>> 
>>> In any case, for all the benefits we get from the free advice from this 
>>> group it's not much to ask for a bit of feedback. Or Is it? If it is, then 
>>> just don't do the survey. No one is twisting your arm, but only because 
>>> we're not allowed to.  :-)
>>> 
>>> Cheerio,
>>> Stuart
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad2 soon to be traded in for an iPad HD!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 07/03/2012, at 7:21 PM, Derek Perry  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Daniel,
>>>> I would have to agree with James, I am not a member I only belong to the 
>>>> Wamug mailing list & therefore there are only 3 questions that apply to me 
>>>> No 1,2 &10, the survey should only have been sent to financial members, as 
>>>> it is only their opinion you are really soliciting.
>>>> Derek
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Daniel Kerr 
>>>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 8:35 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry James, but I would tend to disagree. Out of the 10 questions, I see 
>>>> 2 that are related to financial members. Question 2 (are you a financial 
>>>> member) and 3 (what benefits do you think should differ).
>>>> The survey is there for a "guide" to help the committee work on a) 
>>>> expanding the group and b) to get feedback for meetings and other things 
>>>> to do with meetings.
>>>> 
>>>> So far we've had 32 responses which I think is great and will be very 
>>>> beneficial to the committee to help strengthen WAMUG overall.
>>>> 
>>>> But the survey does allow
>>>> partially completed anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Daniel
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> Daniel Kerr
>>>> MacWizardry
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960
>>>> Email: 
>>>> Web:   <http://www.macwizardry.com.au>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> **For everything Macintosh**
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/03/2012, at 8:24 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> the survey is wrongly setup, most of the questions are for financial 
>>>>> members, but have to be filled in/answered by anyone, which is not 
>>>>> possible, thus the survey cannot be completed & returned
>>>>> you may have to change a number of question or accept partially filled in 
>>>>> surveys
>>>>> James
>>>>> 
>>>>> SAD Technic
>>>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
>>>>> Bayswater WA
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> +618 9370 5307
>>>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
>>>>> sad...@iinet.net.au
>>>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
>>>>> disappear and obstacles vanish.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 06/03/2012, at 10:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As requested, here is the email sent to the list recently with the link 
>>>>>> for the WAMUG Survey.
>>>>>> For those that hadn't completed it, the survey is still open so feel 
>>>>>> free to complete.
>>>>>> 
>>&

Re: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey

[Derek Perry]

Daniel,
 I would have to agree with James, I am not a member I only belong to the Wamug 
mailing list & therefore there are only 3 questions that apply to me No 1,2 
&10, the survey should only have been sent to financial members, as it is only 
their opinion you are really soliciting.
Derek





 From: Daniel Kerr 
To: wamug@wamug.org.au 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ADMIN] - WAMUG Survey
 
Sorry James, but I would tend to disagree. Out of the 10 questions, I see 2 
that are related to financial members. Question 2 (are you a financial member) 
and 3 (what benefits do you think should differ).
The survey is there for a "guide" to help the committee work on a) expanding 
the group and b) to get feedback for meetings and other things to do with 
meetings.

So far we've had 32 responses which I think is great and will be very 
beneficial to the committee to help strengthen WAMUG overall.

But the survey does allow
 partially completed anyway.

Kind regards
Daniel

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On 07/03/2012, at 8:24 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> the survey is wrongly setup, most of the questions are for financial members, 
> but have to be filled in/answered by anyone, which is not possible, thus the 
> survey cannot be completed & returned
> you may have to change a number of question or accept partially filled in 
> surveys
> James
> 
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> Australia
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> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
> 
> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
> disappear and obstacles vanish.
> 
> On 06/03/2012, at 10:46 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> Hi All
>> 
>> As requested, here is the email sent to the list recently with the link for 
>> the WAMUG Survey.
>> For those that hadn't completed it, the survey is still open so feel free to 
>> complete.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
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[Derek Perry]

FYI

Hacker finds iPhone's 'secret' panorama camera mode

A hacker has discovered that iPhones running the iOS 5 operating systems have a 
hidden panoramic camera mode, the Daily Mail has reported.
In news that could delight photography-loving iPhone users but infuriate Apple, 
hacker Conrad Kramer has found the hidden mode which will help users click 
continuous photos while panning the camera from left to right.

"So, I found out how to enable Panorama is the iOS Camera app. Set the key 
'EnableFirebreak' to YES in com.apple.mobileslideshow.plist," Kramer tweeted on 
Wednesday.

Several other hackers have reportedly found the hidden mode too.

However, it's a function that requires the phone to be jailbroken and isn't 
officially ready for use as Apple is understood to be testing it, the Daily 
Mail reports.

Jailbreaking is a way to bypass Apple security to use apps not available on 
iTunes.

Apple discourages jailbreaking its devices and says it can "severely degrade 
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[Derek Perry]

Re: Apple Genius Bar service and Apple Store generallyAs for resellers, 
Maxstyle in Myaree are brilliant, no need to go past them.
Derek
  - Original Message - 
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  To: WAMUG Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple Genius Bar service and Apple Store generally


  Its good news for the Apple Resellers who specialise in Apple products, such 
as NextByte. What they have to offer is unique.

  On 4/09/2011 12:15 PM, Stuart Evans wrote: 
Martin - I’m with Susan. It makes sense for Apple but since when is it 
about Apple? Where is the “customer” in customer service? Why shouldn’t you be 
able to view and test drive the products and then decide yes thanks I’ll have 
that MacBook Air but I need a bit extra RAM and Storage, can I order now and 
pick it up (or have it delivered even)? My favourite record store doesn’t 
always have the titles I want either but they’ll order them in for me. If a 
customer made the effort to come into my store and get advice and then purchase 
a product from us only for me to tell them them to go and order it online, I’d 
have to be a meathead to expect them to be happy about it. 




On 4/09/11 11:52 AM, "Susan Hastings"  wrote:


  Only thing is, you need to be available to take delivery. I had something 
small ordered, and it took more than a week to have it delivered at a time when 
I was available. So, ordering from a store and being able to pick it up when it 
suits makes sense to me.


  On 04/09/2011, at 11:33 AM, Martin Hill wrote:


On 04/09/2011, at 10:41 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:


  The other thing about the Apple Store is that you can't order a build 
to order Mac. You either have to purchase from the online store or go to an 
Apple Reseller. This strikes me as ridiculous!


I think it actually makes some sense in that the reason most people go 
to a physical Apple Store is to be able to walk out with a new Mac off the 
shelf.  Custom build-to-order configurations can't be kept in stock in the shop 
so they would have to be ordered in anyway so why not order online and have it 
delivered to your door?

I guess Apple takes the view that if an item needs to be ordered in, 
why attempt to substitute the automated, streamlined online ordering process 
from the online store with an in-store process that would take up the time of 
an Apple staff member who could probably be better served helping someone.  
They would still I assume help walk anyone through doing an order from the 
online store if they had problems?

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Re: .wmv files

[Derek Perry]

Thanks, have installed free version of Flip4Mac fromMicrosoft download centre, 
it works great.
Derek

On 16/08/2011, at 3:41 PM, Eugene wrote:

> Download the system extension flip4Mac. It allows WMV to run in the quicktime 
> application.,
> 
>  Regards,
>  Eugene
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>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> What do I need, to be able to access .wmv files on my imac i7, when I try 
>>> to open one it says, could not be opened, "file isn't in the correct format.
>>> Thanks
>>> Derek
>> 
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Re: .wmv files

[Derek Perry]

Thank you Ronni.
Derek

On 16/08/2011, at 3:25 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> 
> 
> On 16/08/2011, at 11:01 AM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> What do I need, to be able to access .wmv files on my imac i7, when I try 
>>> to open one it says, could not be opened, "file isn't in the correct format.
>>> Thanks
>>> Derek
> 
> Hi Derek,
> 
> You need to install Flip4Mac then Quicktime will play .wmv files.
> <http://www.telestream.net/flip4mac-wmv/overview.htm>
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
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.wmv files

[Derek Perry]

> 
> Hi All,
> What do I need, to be able to access .wmv files on my imac i7, when I try to 
> open one it says, could not be opened, "file isn't in the correct format.
> Thanks
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[Derek Perry]

Thanks for that James,
I am now using Bob2 with Voip, iinet, so far everything is good, I was just 
curious about the Belkin phone adapter, as a friend has a Belkin router & is 
with iinet VOIP & has drop outs & lousy phone service, another friend has the 
original Bob (iinet) & has the same lousy phone quality.
Derek


On 08/08/2011, at 11:06 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> hi Derek
> the phone adapter is looking like a smaller modem & just does the analog to 
> digital conversions needed for the phone line through internet, the phone 
> adapter uses a cat5 cable to the netgear router/modem
> i think this adapter is not available anymore, but instead you can get 
> modem/router/phone combos, eg the bob series from iinet, or:
> http://www.netgear.com/home/products/default.aspx & look for voip
> James
> 
> 
> SAD Technic
> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
> Bayswater WA
> Australia
> +618 9370 5307
> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
> sad...@iinet.net.au
> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
> 
> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
> disappear and obstacles vanish.
> 
> On 06/08/2011, at 2:50 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi James,
>> What is a Belkin phone adapter, what does it do, & where can they be bought.
>> Thanks
>> Derek
>> On 03/08/2011, at 6:38 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
>> 
>>> the phone drop outs could be from not enough bandwith reserved for the 
>>> phone, the so called quality of service (QoS) i'm using the same netgear 
>>> router with a belkin phone adapter for the phone line (voip) & works fine
>>> James
>>> 
>>> SAD Technic
>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
>>> Bayswater WA
>>> Australia
>>> +618 9370 5307
>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
>>> sad...@iinet.net.au
>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
>>> 
>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
>>> disappear and obstacles vanish.
>>> 
>>> On 03/08/2011, at 1:12 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm currently using that  Modem/Router Netgear DG834G, with iinet Naked 
>>>> DSL,  & I have had it for over 3 years & in that time the phone has been 
>>>> terrible, even after firmware upgrade & changing the channels that the 
>>>> phone uses, on the other hand the internet is fast & good (please don't 
>>>> ask for speeds) & very rarely suffers dropouts, having only had a couple 
>>>> in over 3 years.
>>>> Derek Perry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 03/08/2011, at 2:23 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> i'm conviced that the netgear dg834g or newer will do the job as long you 
>>>>> have all the info to setup your modem
>>>>> basically naked means landline is not activated
>>>>> James
>>>>>  
>>>>> SAD Technic
>>>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
>>>>> Bayswater WA
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> +618 9370 5307
>>>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
>>>>> sad...@iinet.net.au
>>>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
>>>>> disappear and obstacles vanish.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 03/08/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mike Armson wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> G'Day
>>>>>> Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 
>>>>>> did not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 
>>>>>> 2004 modem which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any 
>>>>>> recommendations for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
>>>>>> -- 
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Re: Wireless modem recommendation

[Derek Perry]

Hi Stuart,
NO!!
Derek
On 07/08/2011, at 12:56 PM, Stuart Evans wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> But is it Minty?   :-)
> 
> Stuart
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 06/08/2011, at 14:54, Derek Perry  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> I have just installed (today Sat 6th)  Bob2 with 3 handsets, so far 
>> everything is great, internet & phone, will let you know how it goes.
>> Derek
>> On 03/08/2011, at 1:19 PM, Mike Armson wrote:
>> 
>>> G'Day
>>> Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did 
>>> not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 modem 
>>> which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any recommendations 
>>> for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
>>> -- 
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>>> 
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Re: Wireless modem recommendation

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Hi Mike,
I have just installed (today Sat 6th)  Bob2 with 3 handsets, so far everything 
is great, internet & phone, will let you know how it goes.
Derek
On 03/08/2011, at 1:19 PM, Mike Armson wrote:

> G'Day
> Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did not 
> work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 modem which 
> has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any recommendations for a 
> wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
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Hi James,
What is a Belkin phone adapter, what does it do, & where can they be bought.
Thanks
Derek
On 03/08/2011, at 6:38 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> the phone drop outs could be from not enough bandwith reserved for the phone, 
> the so called quality of service (QoS) i'm using the same netgear router with 
> a belkin phone adapter for the phone line (voip) & works fine
> James
> 
> SAD Technic
> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
> Bayswater WA
> Australia
> +618 9370 5307
> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
> sad...@iinet.net.au
> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
> 
> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
> disappear and obstacles vanish.
> 
> On 03/08/2011, at 1:12 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> I'm currently using that  Modem/Router Netgear DG834G, with iinet Naked DSL, 
>>  & I have had it for over 3 years & in that time the phone has been 
>> terrible, even after firmware upgrade & changing the channels that the phone 
>> uses, on the other hand the internet is fast & good (please don't ask for 
>> speeds) & very rarely suffers dropouts, having only had a couple in over 3 
>> years.
>> Derek Perry
>> 
>> 
>> On 03/08/2011, at 2:23 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:
>> 
>>> i'm conviced that the netgear dg834g or newer will do the job as long you 
>>> have all the info to setup your modem
>>> basically naked means landline is not activated
>>> James
>>>  
>>> SAD Technic
>>> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
>>> Bayswater WA
>>> Australia
>>> +618 9370 5307
>>> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
>>> sad...@iinet.net.au
>>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
>>> 
>>> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
>>> disappear and obstacles vanish.
>>> 
>>> On 03/08/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mike Armson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> G'Day
>>>> Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did 
>>>> not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 
>>>> modem which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any 
>>>> recommendations for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mike Armson
>>>> 
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Re: Wireless modem recommendation

[Derek Perry]

I'm currently using that  Modem/Router Netgear DG834G, with iinet Naked DSL,  & 
I have had it for over 3 years & in that time the phone has been terrible, even 
after firmware upgrade & changing the channels that the phone uses, on the 
other hand the internet is fast & good (please don't ask for speeds) & very 
rarely suffers dropouts, having only had a couple in over 3 years.
Derek Perry


On 03/08/2011, at 2:23 PM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

> i'm conviced that the netgear dg834g or newer will do the job as long you 
> have all the info to setup your modem
> basically naked means landline is not activated
> James
>  
> SAD Technic
> U3 6 Chalkley Pl
> Bayswater WA
> Australia
> +618 9370 5307
> mob 0414 421132 (international +614 14421132)
> sad...@iinet.net.au
> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~saddas/
> 
> Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties 
> disappear and obstacles vanish.
> 
> On 03/08/2011, at 11:19 AM, Mike Armson wrote:
> 
>> G'Day
>> Belkin no longer provide technical support for iiNet modems. As Bob 1 did 
>> not work at this location I went back to the iiNet Ozmail Belkin 2004 modem 
>> which has not had any firmware updates. Has anyone got any recommendations 
>> for a wireless modem that will work with iiNet naked DSL?
>> -- 
>> Mike Armson
>> 
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Re: OSX Lion

[Derek Perry]

Thanks Carlo
Derek

On 22/07/2011, at 4:34 PM, cm wrote:

> 
> Hi Derek,
> 
> Yes could choose to download it now and not install it. It comes in the form 
> of an App that you run when you want to perform the upgrade. You could also 
> download it now and install it on some of your computers if you have more 
> than one, or on an external drive if you just want to try it out. I myself 
> cloned by main computer using Carbon Copy Cloner and installed a trial update 
> on my main machine with the option to go back if there was a problem.
> 
> If, however, you plan to just leave the Lion upgrade app unused for a time 
> you may as well purchase it in the future when you plan to use it. You will 
> probably get an updated version at that time.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> On 2011-07-22, at 16:16, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> Have been watching the comments on OSX Lion with interest, I would like to 
>> wait until all the problems have been fixed before I install it.
>> 
>> But as I can get it for nothing, (new computer) if I don't get it within the 
>> specified time, I will have to pay.
>> 
>> I am a newbie to Mac's.
>> 
>> So my question is:
>> 
>> If I download it now, can I keep it somewhere without installing it, & 
>> install it, when I'm ready, seeing as it's an operating system is this 
>> possible??.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Derek
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OSX Lion

[Derek Perry]

Hi All,
Have been watching the comments on OSX Lion with interest, I would like to wait 
until all the problems have been fixed before I install it.

But as I can get it for nothing, (new computer) if I don't get it within the 
specified time, I will have to pay.

I am a newbie to Mac's.

So my question is:

If I download it now, can I keep it somewhere without installing it, & install 
it, when I'm ready, seeing as it's an operating system is this possible??.

Thanks
Derek


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[Derek Perry]

Hi All,
Updated from 10.6.7 with combo update overnight to 10.6.8, it took about 40 
minutes in all, so far no problems have arisen, I followed Ronda's instructions 
to the letter.
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Re: Mac OSX 10.6.8 Available

[Derek Perry]

Hi Ronda,
I did see the post on 30 June 2011, & I kept it as a reference, it's great 
thank you very much, being a "Newbie" it has saved me a lot of hassle.
Regards
Derek

On 02/07/2011, at 4:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> I’ve included FYI my post to WAMUG back on 30 June 2011 Subject: Installing 
> 10.6.8 update:
> Follow these instructions and you should not experience any problems.
> -
> Download the OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo from here: 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1399>
> 
> 
> Install OS X Updates correctly:
> 
> DON’T FORGET:
> 1. Backup your system BEFORE installing the Combo Update (or Update).
> 
> 2. Repair Permissions before and after installing the Combo Update (or 
> Update).
> 
> 3. Turn OFF Time Machine in System Preferences
> 
> 4. Unmount & Disconnect any External USB & Firewire Drives / Time Machine
> 
> 5. Install the Combo Update (or Update)
> 
> 6. Run Software Update after installing the Updates
> 
> 7. Repair Permissions
> 
> 8. Connect your Backup Drive
> 
> 9. Go to System Preferences > Time Machine and Turn Time Machine ON
> Let Time Machine complete a  backup.
> 
> ** Apple warning for installing Updates: 
> Do not interrupt the installation process once you have started to update 
> your system.
> 
> As I have said numerous times on WAMUG List “Do Not Upgrade if anything is 
> amiss with your system”.
> 
> As is the case with all updates, if there’s anything at all amiss with your 
> system before the update, the update is likely to expose them.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 4:18 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronda,
>> Thanks very much for clarifying that for me, will be heading off to the 
>> Apple site, to download combo, as soon as i'm up, on an off peak period 
>> time, (iinet).
>> Regards
>> Derek
>> 
>> On 02/07/2011, at 4:07 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Derek,
>>> 
>>> The “Combo" updates contain all incremental updates and will update files 
>>> that could have become corrupted.
>>> A combo update is every previous update in a single update package. You can 
>>> update any 10.6 version to 10.6.8.
>>> 
>>> Combo updaters will install on the same version as they're applying--no 
>>> need to roll back or do a clean install. 
>>> So if you think you've got a bad  10.6.7 install from a regular update, 
>>> just run the 10.6.7 Combo Updater on that system.
>>> 
>>> "Delta" updaters can only take you from one version to the next. For 
>>> example: 10.6.7 to 10.6.8. 
>>> If somehow the 10.6.7 is missing something it should have, and that 
>>> something isn't changed between 10.6.7 and 10.6.8 it will still be bad 
>>> after the delta update.
>>> 
>>> I always recommended going to the Apple site and manually downloading the 
>>> Combo system upgrades; the only way to be sure that everything that needs 
>>> to be in place is in place. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2011, at 3:16 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Just had a reminder to update from OSX 10.6.7 to OSX 10.6.8, size 478.3 
>>>> MB, what does the combo consist of, that makes it 1.09 GB, as mentioned 
>>>> below, this did not come up as an option on update.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Derek Perry
>>>> imac 27 inch, 3.4GHz i7 Quadcore, 8GB ram, 1TB hard-drive, 2GB Graphics. 
> 
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Re: Mac OSX 10.6.8 Available

[Derek Perry]

Hi Ronda,
Thanks very much for clarifying that for me, will be heading off to the Apple 
site, to download combo, as soon as i'm up, on an off peak period time, (iinet).
Regards
Derek

On 02/07/2011, at 4:07 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hi Derek,
> 
> The “Combo" updates contain all incremental updates and will update files 
> that could have become corrupted.
> A combo update is every previous update in a single update package. You can 
> update any 10.6 version to 10.6.8.
> 
> Combo updaters will install on the same version as they're applying--no need 
> to roll back or do a clean install. 
> So if you think you've got a bad  10.6.7 install from a regular update, just 
> run the 10.6.7 Combo Updater on that system.
> 
> "Delta" updaters can only take you from one version to the next. For example: 
> 10.6.7 to 10.6.8. 
> If somehow the 10.6.7 is missing something it should have, and that something 
> isn't changed between 10.6.7 and 10.6.8 it will still be bad after the delta 
> update.
> 
> I always recommended going to the Apple site and manually downloading the 
> Combo system upgrades; the only way to be sure that everything that needs to 
> be in place is in place. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 02/07/2011, at 3:16 PM, Derek Perry wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> Just had a reminder to update from OSX 10.6.7 to OSX 10.6.8, size 478.3 MB, 
>> what does the combo consist of, that makes it 1.09 GB, as mentioned below, 
>> this did not come up as an option on update.
>> Regards
>> Derek Perry
>> imac 27 inch, 3.4GHz i7 Quadcore, 8GB ram, 1TB hard-drive, 2GB Graphics. 
>> 
>> On 24/06/2011, at 10:00 PM, Pete Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> G'day all.
>>> 
>>> Mac OSX 10.6.8 update available. Came out yesterday, apparently.
>>> 
>>> Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo
>>> The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow 
>>> Leopard.
>>> June 23, 2011 - 1.09 GB
>>> 
>>> Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update
>>> The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow 
>>> Leopard.
>>> June 23, 2011 - 474.2 MB
>>> 
>>> <http://support.apple.com/downloads/>
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Pete Smith
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> Ronni
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Re: Mac OSX 10.6.8 Available

[Derek Perry]

Hi all,
Just had a reminder to update from OSX 10.6.7 to OSX 10.6.8, size 478.3 MB, 
what does the combo consist of, that makes it 1.09 GB, as mentioned below, this 
did not come up as an option on update.
Regards
Derek Perry
imac 27 inch, 3.4GHz i7 Quadcore, 8GB ram, 1TB hard-drive, 2GB Graphics. 

On 24/06/2011, at 10:00 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

> G'day all.
> 
> Mac OSX 10.6.8 update available. Came out yesterday, apparently.
> 
> Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo
> The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
> June 23, 2011 - 1.09 GB
> 
> Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update
> The 10.6.8 update is recommended for all users running Mac OS X Snow Leopard.
> June 23, 2011 - 474.2 MB
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/downloads/>
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pete Smith
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Semi OT: recommend US based free proxy service?

[Derek Perry]

Hi,
Try this one, it was mentioned in APC magazine.
www.open-browser.com
Derek

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To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Semi OT: recommend US based free proxy service?



Hi Mark

I think the free application hotspot shield can connect you to a US based 
proxy to suit your purposes.  The proxy is preset by designers of the 
application and it's a pretty well used program so it should be fairly 
reliable and not overly bad for security but it is still a proxy so I would 
recommend just using the program when you want to use your US-based 
services.  Let us know how you go with it if you decide to try it.


Regards
Ruben



Having googled and not wanting to wade through the (at least first few) 
pages of very dubious service providers…
Can anyone recommend a reasonably reliable free proxy service so my 
computer can appear as if in the US to a service provider.


Last month I subscribed to a streaming service that has the licenses for a 
number of shows that I like but aren’t broadcast on  Australia TV.
Unfortunately I found that many (indeed most) of the shows  I want to 
watch and they advertise  aren’t actually available for me to stream in 
Australia as an Australian distributer has rights to them (but is either 
not actually distributing them or  only streaming the latest show and no 
back catalogue to catch up on)  so I've either got to disguise my location 
as being in the US or stop waisting my money and cancel my subscription 
and go back to bit-torrenting. Seems all a bit silly in this day and age 
to offer a legal alternative to discourage bit-torrenting rips then to 
block it due to legal issues that encourage the subscribers back to bit 
torrents


Having googled and not wanting to wade through the (at least first few) 
pages of very dubious service providers…
Can anyone recommend a reasonably reliable free proxy service so my 
computer can appear as if in the US to a service provider.



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Re: e-mac problem

[Derek Perry]

Thankyou to the mailing list for solving my problem & thanks to Kevin for the 
battery.
Kevin the computer came up with the black error box & no amount of restarting 
would fix it, so had to reset the PMU, but the button wasn't in the same 
position as shown on the Mac site, so had to hunt around for it, computer now 
up & purring like a kitten.
Derek 
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  Subject: Re: e-mac problem


  And here is where you can get them from
  http://www.macfixit.com.au/shop/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=619


  Ash


  On 20/05/2011, at 1:20 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Derek,


Yes, the PRAM (or "backup") battery is dead, probably from the computer 
being unplugged from wall power for an extended period.

Instructions for installing the new battery are here:



The battery is a 1/2AA 3.6V lithium. 


Cheers,
Ronni


17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


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Re: e-mac problem

[Derek Perry]

Thanks Ronda, will check your link out, then perhaps I won't have to bother 
Kevin to explain it to me.
Derek
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  To: WAMUG Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: e-mac problem


  Hi Derek,


  Yes, the PRAM (or "backup") battery is dead, probably from the computer being 
unplugged from wall power for an extended period.

  Instructions for installing the new battery are here:

  <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3005>

  The battery is a 1/2AA 3.6V lithium. 


  Cheers,
  Ronni


  17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
  2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

  OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
  Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


  On 20/05/2011, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Forsdyke wrote:


Hi Derek


It sounds like the internal PRAM battery us flat.

Regards
Daniel Forsdyke
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    On 20/05/2011, at 13:10, Derek Perry  wrote:


  Hi everyone,
  Can anyone solve this problem for me?.

  When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of 
days, I get this message,
  Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this 
may cause some applications to behave erratically,
  Please use the date & time preference panel to set the clock manually.
  When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock, & 
date, time zone hasn't changed,

  I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't, & I have to 
re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
supposedly saved in keychain,
  If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
everything is fine.
  This problem has been bugging me for sometime now

  I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but 
will soon be passing the e-mac to my son.

  e-mac power pc G4
  1.25GHZ
  512mb Ram
  Thanks
  Derek





























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e-mac problem

[Derek Perry]

Hi everyone,
Can anyone solve this problem for me?.

When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of days, I 
get this message,
Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this may 
cause some applications to behave erratically,
Please use the date & time preference panel to set the clock manually.
When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock, & date, 
time zone hasn't changed,

I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't, & I have to 
re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
supposedly saved in keychain,
If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
everything is fine.
This problem has been bugging me for sometime now

I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but will 
soon be passing the e-mac to my son.

e-mac power pc G4
1.25GHZ
512mb Ram
Thanks
Derek



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Re: Which inkjet printer???

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For those who are interested,
You can get non-genuine "Tonny" cartridges from Teg computers for:
Brother, Canon, Epson, Hewlett Packard, Lexmark, Samsung, Sharp, Xerox & 
Dell.
I have a Canon MP990 & cartridges cost me $7.80 each, I have been using 
Tonny cartridges for many years on various printers without any problems, 
they are recommended by PCUser magazine.

Derek

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To: "Wamug wamug" 
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 1:30 PM
Subject: Which inkjet printer???



We need to get another colour inkjet printer and "her indoors" has narrowed 
it down to 3 models.


I would be grateful for any feedback, comments, complaints, experiences with 
the following:


1. HP Photosmart B110A Multi-function

2. HP Officejet 6500A Plus e-All in one Multi-function

3. Brother DCP-J715W Multi-function

One of our considerations is that all three will accept non-genuine 
cartridges.


Thanks,

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Re: watch BBC etc from outside UK

[Derek Perry]

Hi,
Would using a proxy web site work??, they can be used for bypassing  country 
restrictions!!

Derek

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Subject: Re: watch BBC etc from outside UK



Hi Merv

I think there is a program called Hotspot Shield that works for US TV but 
I'm not sure about BBC.  You might be able to adapt that program somehow or 
you could just use a generic program to run a VPN/Proxy through the UK since 
that is essentially what these programs do.  I haven't really tried it 
myself so, unfortunately, I can't be of much help.


Good Luck
Ruben



So far my search on this topic has come up with only one application, 
Expat Shield. However, it is not for Mac. Has anyone achieved success at 
watching the BBC or itv online from Australia? BBC's iPlayer and itv 
Player can only be used if you are in the UK.

Hope you are all home safe and sound following the long weekend.
Merv
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Re: USB sticks / drives / formatting ??

[Derek Perry]

Hi Peta,
I move photo's between Windows XP & Mac, (eMac & i Mac) both ways, using  flash 
drives of many different sizes & don't have any problems, & I have never 
formatted any of them, just used them straight out of the packet.
Derek
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  Subject: USB sticks / drives / formatting ??


  Good morning all


  I came in to write my query, which is a little odd, and saw the 
correspondence on the Seagate external drive.   This query is very similar to 
mine I think, but maybe slightly different, so I have given mine a different 
heading.


  I have carried my USB sticks with me for many years, everywhere I have gone 
basically, and quite often copied photos from my (then) Windows onto mainly 
friends/families Windows, and back to my PC or to (eg) Officeworks, Harvey 
Norman to copy and print photos.  (Obviously, about 5 years ago this became to 
and from my Mac, to their Windows or Macs).


  Very recently (because I had a feeling that my USB stick was not "quite 
right")  I took my small external hard drive to Officeworks with a batch of 
photos for printing, to learn that apparently because the formatting was done 
on a Mac, I could not copy the photos onto one of their machines.


  So I bought a new USB stick from Officeworks, came home, copied the photos I 
wanted onto this, and had the batch of photos successfully printed.


  A few days later, I copied a batch of photos from my husband's Mac and 
transferred them onto my Mac.  **This set of photo had been downloaded onto his 
Mac by a DVD and had - I assume -come from a Windows PC).


  Next I deleted that batch of photos from my USB stick.  When it showed up 
empty in Finder I copied 121 photos onto it, including about 30 from the batch 
as in the above paragraph.


  About a week later I went back to Officeworks to have my 121 photos printed.


  When I inserted my USB stick all appeared well and they downloaded right up 
to the point where I had put my name, address and so on.  Very strange though, 
it said there were 500 odd photos.  Being distracted at the time because I was 
due to meet someone, I assumed I had downloaded more photos than I had 
realised, and just proceeded.


  Then the machine threw a big hissy fit and declared "there has been a fatal 
error" and shut down.  The girl behind the counter did not know why and 
suggested I use another machine, which I did, and all went through (still 
showing over 500 photos though).


  Came the time to pick the photos and off I went home and laid them out - yes 
there were over 500 photos, nearly all of them from the large batch downloaded 
from the DVD set, which had been deleted from the USB stick and which did not 
show up in Finder.  There were duplicates and triplicates of some of these.


  So I believed my USB stick was corrupt, and deleted everything from it.  It 
is on my desk now and I believe it should just hit the bin.  Before I deleted 
everything showing I checked and yes, it definitely only showed 121 items.


  In the future then is it necessary to format USB sticks if I am only copying 
from my Mac onto other Macs?  I do not think I have formatted my USB sticks 
ever, certainly not for many years.


  Is it going to be possible to copy photos from my Mac to a PC and/or vice 
versa?   I have done this in the past with no problems, though not recently.


  Thanks for any suggestions, enjoy the rest of our little holiday break.


  Peta



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Re: silverlight?

[Derek Perry]

Microsoft Silverlight powers engaging, interactive user experiences wherever 
the web works.
Silverlight is a powerful development platform for creating rich media 
applications and business applications for the Web, desktop, and mobile devices.

Silverlight is a free plug-in powered by the .NET framework that is compatible 
across multiple browsers, devices and operating systems to bring a new level of 
interactivity wherever the Web works. With support for advanced data 
integration, multithreading, HD video using IIS Smooth Streaming, and built in 
content protection, Silverlight enables online and offline applications for a 
broad range of business and consumer scenarios.

  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:58 PM
  Subject: silverlight?


  Afternoon all


  Can anyone tell what is Microsoft silverlight and why am I required to 
install it just to watch 
  one of my favourite shows from Ch 9


  cheers


  Pedro




  15" MacBookPro 2.66 GHz Core i7
  4  GB/1067   MHz  500GB 
  OS X   10.6.7   Snow Leopard



   





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Re: VoIP wireless modem router

[Derek Perry]

I'm with iinet naked & my router is a Netgear DG834GV which I've had for 3 
years, works good for me, unfortunately I don't have a place of purchase for 
you.

Derek
- Original Message - 
From: "Eugene" 

To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 11:09 AM
Subject: VoIP wireless modem router



I'm sitting here in the dark after the thunderstorm has passed with my 
Belkin wireless router giving off some acrid electrical smell. Yes it is 
toast, I checked it before the power went out. It was supplied by iiNet for 
their naked product.


Can anyone suggest a good replacement for it, as well as a dealer? 
Preferably in stock to collect in the morning  Eastern Perth suburbs would 
be preferred.


Regards
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Re: Vista shutdowns

[Derek Perry]

Check your CPU fan is working, overheating processors cause all sorts of 
problems.

Dererk
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Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:52 PM
Subject: Vista shutdowns



I'm running vista HOME PREMIUM... ok, I know this is a Mac mailing list but 
I thought you might be able to help.


When I'm watching movies on my COMPAQ CQ60, after about 45 min the screen 
turns off and then it goes into hibernation. I've changed the setting to 
never sleep or hibernate but it still does it.


Also the computer gets VERY HOT!

Any suggestions are very welcome

Adrian Stevens

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Re: Lion OSX

[Derek Perry]

Maybe the new iMacs will have the 2nd generation Sandybridge chip in them, 
which will make them faster, as well as LION OSX.

Derek

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To: "'WAMUG Mailing List'" 
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: Lion OSX




Ok thanks Carlo, either way then $29 or $129 or even a bit more, it's a
trivial consideration in a circa $3,000 total cost iMac 27" with upgrades.
No point waiting then it seems unless anyone has any last comments on 
this?


Regards

Pete...

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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf
Of cm
Sent: Monday, 21 February 2011 9:51 PM
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Subject: Re: Lion OSX


Hi Peter,

No one can say with certainty what the upgrade to Lion will cost. The
upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard was just US$29. But that from Tiger 
to
Leopard was, from memory, US$129. I have applied upgrades many times in 
past

and they usually runs without a hitch. Some software and drivers may be
fagged as not running under the new version of the OS but this was more a
problem with programs that ran in Classic mode.

So there are two schools of though on what the upgrade to Lion will cost.
Some think that  US$29 may be Apple's new price point for OS upgrades so 
as

to keep their user base on the most recent version possible. Others think
that the US$29 was a one off lower cost because Snow Leopard was billed as
having few new features compared to Leopard -- in actuality there were
enourmous changes under the hood including 64 bit.

Cheers,
Carlo


On 2011-02-21, at 21:11, Peter Crisp wrote:



Ok then, given that it might be September, what would a SL to Lion 
upgrade

likely cost me and is this a pretty seamless exercise to those who have

done

OS upgrades in the past?

Regards

Pete...

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Behalf

Of Nicholas Pyers
Sent: Monday, 21 February 2011 9:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Lion OSX


On 21/02/2011, at 11:35 PM, Peter Crisp wrote:

Hi all, i am itching to get a 27" imac but patient enough to hold
out for Lion to hit the stores. Does anyone have any inclination
about when it is due? I gather June approx is likely but in typical
Apple fashion it is a highly covert exercise up till the day it is
released. Are there any hardware updates on the horizon for these
machines too? I think the iMac was updated around 4-5 months ago (in
a hardware sense) so it is unlikely to be physically updated prior
to June.


It won't be released to the consumers at WWDC (aka sometime early June)
It will be released to DEVELOPERS at that time so they have time to
test the new OS with their products and issue their own updates and
enhancements...
So, I personally suspect consumers will most likely get it around
September/October


I would be happy with Snow Leopard but not that urgent that I wont
hang out for Lion.

Regards

Peter...



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Re: Imac 27" i5 advice

[Derek Perry]

Live chat with Intel representative within the last few minutes, 4.46pm Feb4
Please wait for a site operator to respond.

You are now chatting with 'Max T'

Max T: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. 
We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?


dperry...@y7mail.com: Hi Max T,

dperry...@y7mail.com: HI MaxT I am about to buy an iMac i7 computer & I want 
to know if the Sandy Bridge chips were installed in Mac computers, if so how 
will I know when it is safe to complete my purchase without a faulty chip in 
it.Thanks Derek


Max T: It is to early to say when the chip will be repaired, it will most 
likely be within march. I am unable to verify which hardware is being used 
in your IMac machine, I suggested you contact the manufacture of place or 
purchase to find out if you are using the affected chipsets.


Max T: or place of purchase

dperry...@y7mail.com: Thanks MaxT, So your advice would be not to purchase a 
computer with an i5 or i7 chip before the end of March or there abouts, 
Derek


Max T: Yes, just keep checking our website regualry which sould update you. 
Before you buy the product confirm with the place of purchase if the 
computer your buyin is affected by the issue (chipset issue)


Max T: should*

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To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Imac 27" i5 advice



CUSTOMER ANNOUNCEMENT
Chipset Circuit Design Issue Identified
Intel representatives announced the discovery of a potential issue in one 
of
the support chips to the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors, code 
named

“Sandy Bridge.” Because Intel is committed to providing our customers
products of the highest quality, we have proactively identified the 
affected

part, stopped shipment of the product, and have begun to manufacture a new
version of the support chip, which will resolve this issue.

Here are two simple questions to help determine whether you need to take
further action
Was your system purchased after January 9, 2011?
You may be affected, continue reading.

You have not been affected and do not need to do anything else.

Does your system have any of these Intel® processor badges on it?
 MAY BE AFFECTED: If your system has any of these badges, you MAY BE
affected. Continue to read to identify the exact processor in your 
computer.

NOT AFFECTED: If your system has any of these badges, you are NOT affected
and you do not need to do anything else.

 Quad-Core Desktop Processors:

   a.. Intel® Core™ i5-2500K
   b.. Intel® Core™ i5-2500S
   c.. Intel® Core™ i5-2500T
   d.. Intel® Core™ i5-2500
   e.. Intel® Core™ i5-2400
   f.. Intel® Core™ i5-2400S
   g.. Intel® Core™ i5-2300

 Quad-Core Laptop Processors:

   a.. Intel® Core™ i7-2820QM
   b.. Intel® Core™ i7-2720QM
 Quad-Core Desktop Processors:

   a.. Intel® Core™ i7-2600K
   b.. Intel® Core™ i7-2600S
   c.. Intel® Core™ i7-2600

 Quad-Core Laptop Processors:

   a.. Intel® Core™ i7-2920XM





To determine if you have one of the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processors
with the impacted chipset, you can locate processor number information on
your computer. If you have Windows 7*:

 1.. In your Start menu, click on Start, Control Panel.
 2.. In category view, click on System and Security.
 3.. Then look under System.
 4.. If your processor says Intel® Core™ i5 CPU or Intel® Core™ i7 CPU, 
you

may be impacted.
 5.. Finally, compare your processor to the quad-core processors with the
impacted chipset listed with the badges above.
If you’ve answered YES to the questions above, you MAY be impacted and we
suggest that you contact your PC manufacturer for further details. If you’d
like to speak directly with an Intel agent, you can chat with us now.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronda Brown" 

To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Imac 27" i5 advice



The number of computers impacted by the problem is relatively limited 
since
the processors were introduced during the Consumer Electronics Show in 
early

January. According to Intel, “The only systems sold to an end customer
potentially impacted are Second Generation Core i5 and Core i7 quad core
based systems.”

The problem will, however, potentially delay products that are already in
development.

Apple is on the list of companies that might have to delay new products
while Intel ramps up production of fixed chips. If the company was 
planning
on releasing new laptop models early this year, as some rumours claim, 
those

launches could be delayed by a few weeks.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro  Intel Core i7
2.66GHz / 8GB / 1067 MHz DDR3 / 500GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200rpm

OS X 10.6.6 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)









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Apparentl

Re: Imac 27" i5 advice

[Derek Perry]

Apparently there has been a problem with the Sandy Bridge chip in the Intel 
i5 & i7's they have been putting them in computers since Xmas & have now 
discovered they are faulty, would presume they have been put in Mac's & 
Windows computers,  am unaware of any solutions at this point in time.


- Original Message - 
From: "John Hatch" 

To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:53 AM
Subject: Imac 27" i5 advice



I am Contemplating buying a imac 27",i5Mhz, 8gb ram to replace my PC and 
prismo PB. A want to run CAD in windows and be able to cut past to mac on 
the run. Also use the mac as a DVD/CD player and watch TV. Any advice would 
be appreciated


John

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Re: 10.6.6 available & Mac App store now open

[Derek Perry]

Hi All,
Came across this site the other day, maybe useful to those who want to purchase 
things from the good old USA..
www.priceusa.com.au

Derek
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ronda Brown 
  To: WAMUG Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:25 PM
  Subject: Re: 10.6.6 available & Mac App store now open


  Hi Alex,


  I understand where you are coming from and your concern. My reply was in 
reference to the link you supplied which referred to "iTunes users fight back 
against inflated music prices" & how to get around this by creating a US iTunes 
Account.


  Hugh Griffiths reply touched on 'market economics'.
  There is a markup for the cost of business in each country.


  I agree, Aperture is an Apple Software product. None of the prices on the US 
App Store include sales tax. The US does not have a uniform federal VAT. The 
sales taxes is different in every state and sometimes city jurisdiction.


  AFAIK Hardware, Software is all subject to GST, so all the prices on the AU 
App Store include Australia Government 10% GST (& possibly importation fees).
  Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how I understand it works. I'm certainly 
no expert on GST & our Government's import duties & Customs Laws.


  Regards,
  Ronni




  On 07/01/2011, at 3:13 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:


While I don't condone stealing especially from software developers and 
musicians, I do feel it is not reasonable for Apple to set different prices. 
Your comments regarding record companies is only partially right, as this 
thread started with Aperture, which is an Apple product. I fail to see why they 
should charge Aussies more then our cousins from the other side of the pacific. 


I used to life in the UK and had my account there. Since moving down under 
I changed my account, but wish I hadn't. 


Just an observation, but generally things seem more expensive here in Oz. 
Guess you can't have it all. Sunshine, beach, cheap prices  :-)


Alex


On 7 Jan 2011, at 13:37, Ronda Brown wrote:


  The comments: 
  /Quote:
  "Stealing is stealing no matter how easy it is to do or however you 
rationalise it."
  and:
  "the biggest issue is that Apple when they do catch onto you, your credit 
is gone"
  /End Quote


  Says it all.


  It might 'seem' unfair to people that don't understand (or research) all 
the factors which cause the price difference.
  The exchange rate is only one factor in the pricing equation.

  Also, Apple doesn't set the prices, the record companies do, the Record 
Companies and Rights Holders in Australia charge iTunes.
  If you want to blame someone blame EMI Australia who sets the prices, not 
Apple. While your at it, ask the Australian book publishers why electronic 
books are so much more expensive in Australia than they are overseas and why 
all titles available on overseas stores aren't available here. 


  I'm not about to start a 'Flaming War' as this issue has been discussed 
before on WAMUG.
  I apologise if my little "Rant" upsets anyone.


  Cheers,
  Ronni


  On 07/01/2011, at 12:28 PM, Alexander Hartner wrote:


There are ways and means :



http://www.news.com.au/technology/itunes-users-fight-back-against-inflated-music-prices/story-e6frfro0-1225982198878


apparently. 


On 7 Jan 2011, at 01:06, Dark1 wrote:


  Aperture is a great deal but I can't help but feel a bit disappointed 
that Aussies are being screwed over a bit.  US on the new store is $79.  The 
price differences from the original Apple store could be justified since there 
were additional costs associated with shipping and taxes in Australia.  I could 
be wrong but I think buying from an online store would bypass the Australian 
taxes and there certainly isn't any shipping involved yet we pay $20 more.  I 
wonder if it's possible to trick the store into giving you US prices by using 
proxy servers.  Probably not but it would be interesting to see Apple's 
response if someone found a way to do it.


  Ruben



  In a word ... AWESOME


  There are some great bargains available to. For all you budding 
photographers Aperture less than half price ($99.99) normally $249


  cheers


  Pedro





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[Derek Perry]

I am a newcomer to Macs & when I needed help Kevin was the one who put his 
hand up, along with
Mike Armson, & also not forgetting Andrew Schox who rebuilt & gave me the 
old eMac in the first place
Thanks to the three of you, also the amount of knowledge available on this 
site & so many willing to help is amazing.

Derek
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To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: MacBook bits




Kevin, you're a saint.

You donate a fantastic service to people in need of it & we all  applaud 
you for it, on behalf of a friend you once helped, thanks again.


best regards,

Ken



On 19/08/2010, at 3:22 PM, KEVIN Lock wrote:



Thanks for that information about  MacBook bits.

Perhaps I should explain that I restore old Macs given to me and  give 
them at no cost to needy folks.  I replace the PRAM battery at  no cost, 
and give them with phone backup when folks need a bit of  advice.


In posting to the list I was hoping that someone had a broken down 
MacBook in a cupboard that I could raid for some parts.As I  said, 
this MacBook works, but has had a very hard life with many  cracks and 
scratches.


Looking at the links  it would seem that with a battery, power pack  and 
a screen I would be up for more than a secondhand MacBook,  something 
that my altruism doesn't run to.


regards

Kev









Sorry, the URL got mangled. Try this one.

http://tinyurl.com/36nearj

Regards

Peter...
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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au]  On 
Behalf Of Crisp, Peter

Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 2:26 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: RE: MacBook bits


I saw this too.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BLACK-55WH-BATTERY-Apple-Macbook-13-13- 
A1181-A118

5-/280547390310?pt=AU_Computers_Apple_Parts_Accessories

But Andrews one gives 24 months warranty.

Regards

Peter..
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From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On
Behalf Of Andrew McColl
Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 1:47 PM
To: WAMUG Mailing List
Subject: Re: MacBook bits


These guys also sell cheap MacBook batteries.

http://www.laptopadapter.com.au/laptop_battery_desc.php?id=84606

I have never dealt with them though.  I went with a somewhat more 
expensive Australian based MacBook Battery reseller.


Andrew

Quoting "James / Hans Kunz" :


 macfixit.com.auparts
 ifixit.com   manuals & parts
 James


 On 19/08/2010, at 12:00, KEVIN Lock wrote:



 I have been given a MacBook for my ongoing giveaway project.   It 
has  had a very hard life and one of the main problems is  that the 
screen  hinges are cracked and the bushes are  missing.  The screen 
works  well but doesn't allow it to close  properly or remain  upright 
when  in use. Also doesn't have a  battery or powerpack.


 Any ideas on a fix for a sad but working MacBook?

 regards

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Re: wireless-router

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Hi,
I use a Netgear, model DG834GV servicing 2 Windows machines & 1 e Mac.
Derek
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Subject: wireless-router




Hi
Exploring a wireless-router combined, that is,
* modem
* router (4 port)
* wifi
* voip
The WAMUG archives of 2007 show support for Netgear WG614 Router
Is this still the way to go or has the scene changed.
Machines to be serviced are latest MacBook pro and 2007 iMac.
Your suggestions please.
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Airport extreme card

[Derek Perry]

Hi,
Does anyone have an airport extreme card for sale at a reasonable price, need 
one for my 2004 G4 eMac 1.25GHz with OSX 10.5.8
I live in Bibra Lake Perth WA
Thanks
Derek

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Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:54 PM
Subject: ilife & iwork08


Hi Everyone,
I understand that ilife & iwork no longer need an activation key, so does 
anyone have a copy of either for me to borrow & install on my 2004 G4 1.25GHz, 
Mac OSX10.5.8, I believe it's the Panther, I have just been given this computer 
to see if I like Macs before I buy a current model in October, I currently only 
have Windows machines, an Acer laptop & a self built desktop 3.2GHz XP Pro, I 
live in Bibra Lake Perth WA, will collect & return or pay for postage both ways.
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Derek

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Re: lousy VOIP

[Derek Perry]

I'm with iinet Naked DSL & my phone plays up the same way, I've had it for 
two years, it can be very good for many months then you seem to have a bad 
patch, the Tech support at iinet said that you can access the router & 
change the channel the phone is using, I know none of this helps you, just 
letting you know it's not just Vivid, but I am glad you broadcast it as I 
was going to give Vivid a go myself, will now keep away from them.
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To: 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:02 AM
Subject: lousy VOIP




We are connected through vividwireless 'home gateway'.  Speeds are good, 
but the VOIP phone is lousy.


 I have talked with their Tech people a number of times, but the 
adjustments to settings has not improved the reception which ranges from 
very bad echoes to scratchy fading out volumes.  The problems are 
inconsistent sometimes there are echoes, sometimes other problems.


I am thinking of going back to Teltra landline where at least the quality 
is consistently good and using Skype for long distance calls. The Skype 
phone calls are much better than VOIP through vividwireless.


I have tried several different phones on the Gateway.

Am I missing something here?

Intel iMac, plenty of RAM

regards

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Re: Access to a blog

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Looked it up on Google, site has been sold & is now owned by Flippa & is for 
sale again.
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Subject: Access to a blog




Over the last three years I have been using "blognow" to create a site for 
our parish.  Over the past few months access has been sporadic and now I 
can't get onto it at all, neither the site nor the login page to perform 
edits.

http://www.blognow.com.au/home.php

The message I am getting is:
The requested URL /home.php was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-1+lenny8 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at www.blognow.com.au Port 80


The actual blog is:
http://www.blognow.com.au/paternoster/
for which I get:
The requested URL /paternoster/ was not found on this server.
Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) PHP/5.2.6-1+lenny8 with Suhosin-Patch mod_ssl/2.2.9 
OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at www.blognow.com.au Port 80


Is anyone able to advise what this message means - other than you can't 
access the site?


Regards
Merv
--
"Education without values and knowledge without ethics is a false 
education."



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Re: Epson Stylus Pro 3880

[Derek Perry]

Don't suppose the waste ink tank is full by any chance??.
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From: "William Crabb" 

To: "WAMUG Mailing List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:47 AM
Subject: Epson Stylus Pro 3880




Hi All,

Just wondering if anyone can help me.

I have sent jobs to the printer as normal, and nothing is happening.
The jobs are getting stored, but not printing,
and it is showing status as "stopped".
I've been using this same printer for a couple of years and have never 
seen

this status.
Any suggestions greatly appreciated, as I have a heap of stuff to print
today and this is not a good start...

Regards,
Rosalyn




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Fw: Date of Manufacture

[Derek Perry]

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From: Derek 
To: wamug@wamug.org.au 
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:23 PM
Subject: Date of Manufacture


Hi,
I am about to buy a iMac 27inch, with either the i5 or i7 chip, research tells 
me that they were having problems with yellow tinging & flickering on early 
models, so obviously I don't want one of those, so can anyone tell me how to 
decipher the serial no., so that I can tell when it was made, or is there 
another way of telling when it was made, before I buy it.
Will be buying from Apple store in Perth Or JB Hi Fi at gateways Success.
Thanks
Derek

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